[4:30 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING] [00:00:02] >> GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM IS CURRENTLY ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> HERE. >> MAYOR LIGHT. >> HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? >> NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. >> THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS? >> THERE IS ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM, BUT I DON'T SEE A HAND RAISED. THEN FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS ONE E-COMMENT LISTED UNDER ITEM F6. >> CAN WE SHOW THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM HAS JOINED THE MEETING. >> YES. >> CAN YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IN CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? >> AS IS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. ITEMS F1 THROUGH F8 ARE UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE OF LEGAL COUNSEL EXISTING LITIGATION. FOR F1, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS [INAUDIBLE] LOFTON VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND DOES 1 THROUGH 50, CASE NUMBER 23TRCB00414. FOR F2, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ET AL VERSUS CALIFORNIA STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD, CASE NUMBER 20STCP03193. FOR F3, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS IN REGARDS TO 9300 WILSHIRE, LLC, BANKRUPTCY, CASE NUMBER 223-BK-10918-ER. FOR F4, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS 9300 WILSHIRE, LLC, VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100, INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23STCP02189. FOR F5, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS YES IN MY BACKYARD, A CALIFORNIA NONPROFIT CORPORATION, SANDRA TROUSS, AN INDIVIDUAL, VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 25, INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23TRCP00325. FOR F6, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC, VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100, INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23STCB10146. FOR F7, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC, AND LEONID PUSTILNIKOV VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CASE NUMBER 22TRCP00203. FOR F8, THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC, VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ET AL, CASE NUMBER 23STCP00426. ITEMS F9 THROUGH F11 UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE OF REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR. FOR F9, THE PROPERTY IS 230 PORTOFINO WAY, A PORTION OF APN 7503-029-903. FOR F10, THE PROPERTIES ARE 130 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK, A PORTION OF APN 7505-002-932. FOR F11, THE PROPERTIES ARE PORTIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MARINA PARKING LOT, SEASIDE LAGOON, AND CALIFORNIA SURF CUB, 239 AND 245 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE, PORTIONS OF APN'S 7503-029-900 AND 7503-029-903. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITANSKI [PHONETIC], WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE ITEMS, PLEASE. >> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FOR ALL ITEMS, MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY MIKE WEBB, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK. FOR ITEM F1, WE WILL BE JOINED BY OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, ALEXANDER FRANK, ON THE MATTER. FOR ITEMS F9 THROUGH F11, WE WILL HAVE GREG KAPOVICH, OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND FOR ITEM F10, BRIAN CAMPBELL, OUR OUTSIDE LEASING CONSULTANT. >> WHAT ABOUT F2? >> NO ADDITIONAL FOLKS FOR THAT TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS THE CLOSED SESSION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> WE WILL SEE YOU ON OR ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK TO REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION AND START THE OPEN SESSION. >> PRESENT AT 4:32. >> FROM CLOSED SESSION, [A. CALL TO ORDER] COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> HERE. >> MAYOR LIGHT. >> HERE. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM CLOSED SESSION? >> NO REPORTABLE ACTION THIS EVENING, MAYOR. >>THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR OPEN MEETING. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE OPEN SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. [00:05:05] COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> HERE. >> MAYOR LIGHT. THANK YOU. >> HERE. IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE. [APPLAUSE] FOUR OF THEM TONIGHT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP INDIA WHO WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I'LL ASK YOU TO REMAIN STANDING AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SO WE CAN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. EVERYBODY, PLEASE RISE, AND INDIA, THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS INDIA. I'M A FIFTH GRADER AT JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL IS MATH. I LOVE PARTICIPATING IN THE JUNIOR GUARD PROGRAM IN REDONDO BEACH. PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. READY? BEGIN. >> >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION. PLEASE BE SEATED. INDIA, COME ON UP. WELL DONE. >> THANKS. >> WELL DONE. >> THANKS, INDIA. >> THANKS FOR COMING. >> WELCOME, INDIA. >> LOVE THE DARK MARK. >> GREAT JOB. >> GET A PHOTO. MOM, DO YOU WANT TO GET A PHOTO? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, INDIA. WELL DONE. [D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS] [APPLAUSE] WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO DO PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS, AB 1234, TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS WEEK, SO LET ME COME FORWARD. PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU. CONY, DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD? THIS IS CONY MCKENZIE [PHONETIC]. SHE'S WITH THE LA COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, REPRESENTING DISTRICT 2, SUPERVISOR HOLLY MITCHELL. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND IT'S ONLY FITTING THAT WE JOIN OUR NATION IN CELEBRATING THE EVENT. WE HAVE CONY MCKENZIE, AS I SAID, WHO'S REPRESENTING COUNTY SUPERVISOR HOLLY J. MITCHELL. THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS FIRST PROPOSED BY HISTORIAN AND SCHOLAR CARTER G. WOODSON IN 1926 AND WAS EXPANDED BY CONGRESS 50 YEARS LATER. BLACK HISTORY MONTH HONORS THE COURAGE AND EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY OUR AFRICAN-AMERICANS THROUGH THE HISTORY OF OUR REPUBLIC. THIS YEAR'S THEME OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND LABORS FOCUSES ON THE VARIOUS AND PROFOUND WAYS THAT WORK AND WORKING OF ALL KINDS, FREE AND UNFREE, SKILLED AND UNSKILLED, VOCATIONAL AND VOLUNTARY. SORRY. NO MORE STICKY PAPER, RENEE. INTERSECT WITH THE COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCES OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE. BLACK HISTORY MONTH CALLS OUR ATTENTION TO THE CONTINUED NEED TO BATTLE RACISM AND BUILD A SOCIETY THAT LIVES UP TO THE DEMOCRATIC IDEALS. I URGE REDONDO BEACH COMMUNITY TO REFLECT ON OUR SHARED HISTORY AND DRAW INSPIRATION FROM THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE AS WE CONTINUE TOGETHER ON THE PATH TOWARD EQUALITY, LIBERTY, AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL. WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO DO. I'M VERY HONORED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TONIGHT. WE WANT REDONDO, AND WE POSITION REDONDO AS AN OPEN COMMUNITY THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND RESPECTFUL REGARDLESS OF RACE, RELIGION, OR CREED. WITH THAT, CONY, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION, AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK. >> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GREETINGS FROM SUPERVISOR HOLLY MITCHELL'S OFFICE. I ACCEPT THIS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT REDONDO BEACH HAS AN INCREDIBLE POPULATION OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS. WHITE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE IN WAYS THAT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T EVEN SEE FROM EDUCATION ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR GRASSROOTS, [00:10:01] ACTIVISM, AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE CURRENTLY, DR. WESLEY, WHO'S DOING GREAT THINGS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. REDONDO UNION IS LED BY MR. BROWN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN GET DOWN WITH MR. BROWN, BUT HE DOES HIS THING. WE HAVE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS LIKE ARNETT TRAVIS. WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT CONTINUOUSLY GIVE OF THEMSELVES ON AND OFF THE CLOCK. DARREN AND TOYA AND THE DALE BROTHERS AND OFFICER KEITH TURNER, THEY'RE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS, THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES, AND WE'RE JUST HONORED TO BE HERE AND BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ABLE TO GIVE BACK. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THIS, AND WE HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH. THIS IS TALIA MCKENZIE. SHE HAS A TWIN, ROMAN MCKENZIE, AND SHE GOES TO REDONDO UNION AND PLAYS FOR THEIR SOFTBALL TEAM. >> COME ON UP AND JOIN US. >> COME ON, GIRL. [OVERLAPPING] APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> THIS IS THE LAST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. I JUST WANT TO GET EVERYONE TO REMIND EVERYONE, THERE ARE BALLOTS OUT THERE. REMIND EVERYONE TO VOTE. BALLOTS ARE DUE MARCH 4TH. LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD. MORE IMPORTANT IS MOST BASIC THING OF OUR DEMOCRACY. WE WILL NOT BE OR MEETING AGAIN UNTIL AFTER THE MARCH 4TH, WE'LL BE HAVING MARCH 4TH OFF, TUESDAY, MARCH 4TH. MOVE BACK HERE UNTIL MARCH 11TH. REMIND EVERYONE TO GET THOSE BALLOTS IN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> THANKS, MAYOR LIGHT. THE FEBRUARY DISTRICT 2 COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE TOMORROW EVENING, 6:00-7:30 ON ZOOM. WE WILL HAVE TWO SUBJECTS. ONE WILL BE THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION AND CIRCULATION PLAN FOR THE AREA AROUND REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL. THOSE OF YOU THAT LIVE ON DIAMOND OR LIVE ON VINCENT OR THE SURROUNDING STREETS, PLEASE CONSIDER REGISTERING AT REDONDO.ORG UNDER DISTRICT 2. ALSO, WE WILL HEAR FROM CANDIDATES, THREE MAYORAL CANDIDATES AND A CITY ATTORNEY CANDIDATE TOMORROW EVENING TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT THEIR CANDIDACY. THIS IS MY LAST OFFICIAL CITY DISTRICT 2 COMMUNITY MEETING. IN MARCH, WE'LL JUST HAVE A CELEBRATION IN THE MAIN LIBRARY. WE'LL COME UP WITH A DATE TOWARDS THE LATTER HALF OF MARCH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD CROWD, A LOT OF REGISTRATIONS ALREADY. GO TO REDONDO.ORG UNDER DISTRICT 2. YOU CAN REGISTER TO GET THE ZOOM LINK. WE'LL SEE TOMORROW NIGHT, 6:00-7:30. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> I WANTED TO PLUG THE CANDIDATE FORUM ON THURSDAY. I WILL NOT BE HAVING A MEETING IN FEBRUARY FOR DISTRICT 3. I WAS SICK LAST WEEK. I THINK EVERYONE HEARD, AND I'M CATCHING UP. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK, MS. MCKENZIE FOR BEING HERE AND REPRESENTING OUR AWESOME COUNTY SUPERVISOR, HOLLY MITCHELL. THE CANDIDATE FORUM ON THURSDAY WILL BE HOSTED BY DR. GOOD LOW. WE ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMISSIONERS THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO LEAD THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING CHADWICK CASTLE ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION. I ALSO WILL NOT BE HAVING ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING BEFORE THE ELECTION, BUT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME ANYTIME ON MY CELL PHONE, 310-625-9346. I'LL SAY THIS AS A FINAL STATEMENT BEFORE THE ELECTION. NORTH REDONDOANS, HISTORICALLY, HAVE NOT VOTED IN AS HIGH OF A PROPENSITY AS SOUTH REDONDOANS. VOTING IS A GREAT WAY TO SEND THE MESSAGE TO THE NEXT MAYOR THAT NORTH REDONDO MATTERS, AND THAT THEY SHOULD KEEP NORTH REDONDO IN THE TOP OF THEIR MINDS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS BECAUSE [00:15:01] INEVITABLY THE NEXT MAYOR IS GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION, AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THE VOTE OF NORTH REDONDO. PLEASE COME OUT, GET EDUCATED ABOUT WHO'S OUT THERE, READ THEIR BALLOT STATEMENTS, AND VOTE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> NONE TONIGHT, MAYOR. THANK YOU. >> I ALSO HAVE NONE TONIGHT. WITH THAT, MOVING TO ITEM E, [E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA? OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT AROUND, THIS IS THE TIME TO SPEAK. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> WE'LL KEEP THE AGENDA AS IT IS IN YOUR WRITTEN AGENDA. LET'S SEE. ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THIS EVENING? [G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] >> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE H8, WHICH IS RELATED TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR LOCAL TRAVEL NETWORK PROJECT, MODIFICATIONS TO CONTINGENT EXPANSION LTA MAP FOR NORTH REDONDO. H14, RELATED TO THE CANNABIS ORDINANCES. PUBLIC COMMUNICATION UPDATES SECTIONS OF ORDINANCE 3288-25, AND 3289-25. J1, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. N1, POSSIBLE ACTION FOR FISCAL MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW, NEW BRR NUMBER 17 AND REVISED TITLE CONFERENCE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. L1 RELATED TO ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE POSTAL ZONE FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE FOR THE ELECTRONIC SIGNS IN HARBOR PIER SPECIAL DISTRICT, AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 3291-25 AND RESO CC-2502-008. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? >> MOTION RECEIVE AND FILE [INAUDIBLE] ITEMS. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR IT>. >> AYE. >> NOW, WE'LL JUMP DOWN TO CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. [H. CONSENT CALENDAR] THERE'S A LOT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS TO DISCUSS? COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> I'LL PULL ITEM H14, PLEASE. >> H14. COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> H12, PLEASE. >> H12. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. I SKIP AND COME BACK? >> YEAH. CAN YOU COME BACK JUST A SECOND? >> YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> I'LL SECOND THE H14. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> H5, ITEM 7. H5, ITEM 8, AND H16. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC? >> NONE. THANK YOU. >> I'VE GOTTEN NONE OTHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE POLLED. FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS LATER H5 ITEM 7 AND 8, H 12, H 14, AND H 16. OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS OTHER THAN H5 SUBSECTION 7 AND 8, H12, H14 AND H16. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. DOES ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? ANYTHING BUT H5 7 AND 8, H12, H14, AND H16? ANYONE ONLINE? >> LET'S SEE. I HAVE A PERSON ONLINE. LET'S SEE. SUSAN RUBIN. I'M NOT SURE. GO AHEAD. HELLO. >> HI, I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS TONIGHT. IF WE ARE, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ISSUE. >> THAT'S LATER. WE PULLED THAT, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN UNDER EXCLUDED ITEMS, H14. >> SHORTLY. >> OKAY. >> I HAVE SHEILA LAM. GO AHEAD, SHEILA. >> GO AHEAD, SHEILA. >> UNMUTE. THERE WE GO. >> I'M INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ABOUT H17. >> YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR. >> NOW? HOLD ON. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNERS, THE ARCHITECT, DIRECTOR WIENER, AND THE PLANNING STAFF FOR ADVANCING THE PRESERVATION OF THESE BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL HOMES ON CATALINA AVENUE. [00:20:01] THESE HOMES SERVE AS A REMINDER OF THE EARLIEST RESIDENTS OF A REDONDO BEACH AND THESE HOMES CAPTURE THE BEACH TOWN CHARACTER THAT STILL DEFINES OUR CITY TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SHEILA. ANYONE ELSE? >> THAT'S IT FOR ZOOM, AND WE HAD NO COMMENTS. >> WITH THAT, WE HAD THE MOTION AND THE SECOND FOR ALL THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS EXCEPT H5 SUBSECTION 7 AND 8, H12, H14, AND H16. I'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. NOW WE'RE DOWN AT SECTION I, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING. >> MAYOR? >> I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. READ YOU NEED TO READ. >> 811, ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2502-005, CITY COUNCIL CITY REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING STAFF TO SUBMIT A LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATION TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION FOR PREPARATION OF THE CLIMATE RESILIENCY PLAN AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE APPLICATIONS, CONTRACTS, AGREEMENTS, AND AMENDMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE GRANT. H13, ADOPTED BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2502-006, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND THE REDONDO BEACH FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION FIRE MANAGEMENT UNIT FROM JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2028. WE HAVE ONE MORE. H18, INTRODUCTION BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3290-25, AMENDING MUNICIPAL CODE ARTICLE 5 OF CHAPTER 24 TO TITLE 4 REGARDING SOUND AMPLIFYING EQUIPMENT, AND MUNICIPAL CODE CHARTER CHAPTER 2 TO TITLE 1 REGARDING INFRACTIONS FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO ITEM I, [I. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS] WHERE THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST HEARD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS POLL, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS. FIRST TWO ARE YOURS, COUNCILMEMBER BARON, H5, SUBSECTION 7 AND 8. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. H5 SUBSECTION 7 IS THE PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR MEETING MINUTES WITH MS. LAU. I PULLED THE ITEM BECAUSE IT DOVETAILS INTO THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD RECENTLY ABOUT, AND I THINK SPEARHEADED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN ON TECHNOLOGY AND EMBRACING TECHNOLOGY. THE MEETING MINUTES, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, SEEMS TO BE A RIGHT PLACE TO BEGIN. CAN WE EXPLORE HAVING A TECHNOLOGY PROVIDER AI THROUGH AN RFP COME IN AND MAKE A PROPOSAL AS TO WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE TO US WITH RESPECT TO AUTOMATED MEETING MINUTES PREPARATION? TO DO THEM FASTER, GET THEM ONLINE, QUICKER, EASIER TO INDEX. IT BROUGHT TO MIND THE THOUGHT OF, SHOULD WE EXPLORE THAT? I LOOKED AT THE COST OF MS. LAU'S SERVICE, $85 AN HOUR. IT ADDS UP. COULD WE BE MORE ECONOMICAL, MORE EFFICIENT? I ALSO NOTICED IN MS. LAU'S CONTRACT THAT THERE IS NO REAL DEADLINE, NO TIMELINE FOR WHICH DELIVERABLES ARE PROVIDED. IT'S SEVEN DAYS FROM THE START OF A MEETING MINUTES PROJECT. WELL, IF YOU NEVER START THE PROJECT, I'M NOT SAYING SHE WOULDN'T, THEN YOU'LL NEVER GET IT. THAT WAS MY THOUGHT AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SPEAKING AND LEARNING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI ON IT AS WELL. THE BOTTOM LINE, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IF WE CAN WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS ITEM IS, COME BACK WITH AN RFP. WE HAVE MIKE COOK, OUR DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY, WHO IS HERE, AND HE'S ALL OVER THIS. COME BACK WITH AN RFP FOR A DIGITIZED MEETING MINUTES PROVIDER AI, MAYBE TAKE MS. LAU'S CONTRACT, SHORTEN IT TO THREE MONTHS FOR NOW, TO GIVE SOME INCENTIVE TO GET THIS MOVING, AND GO FROM THERE. THOSE WERE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS AND MY REACTION TO IT, AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL AND OTHERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> YOU PROPOSE APPROVING THIS CONTRACT, BUT SHORTENED TO THREE MONTHS, AND THEN DIRECTING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN RFP FOR SOME AUTOMATED MINUTES DEVELOPMENT? >> YEAH. GRANICUS OR OTHER PROVIDERS. >> WE HAD A LOT OF TESTIMONY LAST WEEK THAT WAS ACCURATE, THAT IT DOES TAKE US A WHILE TO GET THESE THINGS OUT. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> SURE. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER BARON BECAUSE WE HAD A 20-ITEM CONSENT CALENDAR, AND HE JUMPED INTO THIS ITEM, WHICH WAS ONE OF SEVEN OR SO UNDER THIS CONSENT ITEM AND LOOKED AT THE DETAIL OF THE CONTRACT. [00:25:04] THAT WAS A GOOD PICKUP. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. CITY MANAGER, IS AN RFP THE APPROPRIATE METHOD FOR WHICH TO SEE INTEREST OR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS VENDOR? >> TWO THINGS. YES. I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS SOME FORM OF RFP OR AN RFI. SOME REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, QUALIFICATIONS OR PROPOSAL WOULD BE THE WAY TO SOLICIT THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. FIRST THINGS TO NOTE, I DON'T WANT TO TREAD TOO HEAVILY ON MISS MANZANO'S ROLE HERE. THIS FALLS UNDER THE CLERK'S DUTY. AS STAFF, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT WITH SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL TO HELP RESEARCH THESE OPTIONS AND PERHAPS SEEK SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD ASSIST IN MAKING THIS PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. I DO BELIEVE IT WILL STILL REQUIRE SOME FORM OF HUMAN MONITORING. I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS BE EXCLUSIVELY RESOLVED THROUGH TECHNOLOGY AND SOFTWARE, BUT I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH COUNCILMEMBER BARON THAT I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED. IN THAT SPIRIT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE SOME PERSONNEL SUPPORT THE EFFORT, BUT WE WOULD DO THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CLERK. >> THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE IS THIS CONTRACT IS FOR A YEAR, AND WE NEED TO GET STARTED ON GRANICUS, WHICH WE'LL DO AFTER THE ELECTION. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THREE MONTHS I THINK IT'S TOO SHORT. I THINK WE KEEP IT AT A YEAR AND WE START LOOKING AT IT. THAT'S WHAT I FEEL, JUST BECAUSE WE HAD A MINUTE SECRETARY EIGHT MONTHS AGO, AND SHE WANTED $120, AND I SAID, NO. NOW WE FOUND SOMEONE ELSE AT $85. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEONE BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE TWO-MINUTE SECRETARIES, AND THAT INCLUDES HER, OR JUST AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FOR THE YEAR. THEN WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT AI, BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY GRANICUS IS PART OF AI-RELATED TO, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE CLOSED CAPTIONS. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING GRANICUS PLUS WANTING TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER AI MECHANISM, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> DOES THIS HAVE A TERMINATION CLAUSE? CAN WE TERMINATE FOR CONVENIENCE? >> I THINK I REMEMBER BECAUSE IT DOES? >> I BELIEVE IT DOES. >> THIS IS KRISTIN. IT DOES HAVE A TERMINATION CLAUSE ACTUALLY FOR CONVENIENCE AT ANY TIME. >> IF WE COME UP WITH ONE EARLIER, WE COULD TERMINATE EARLIER. >> WE COULD, AND IF I MAY, I DON'T HAVE THE FLOOR. >> YES. MISS CITY CLERK, YOU'D BE OKAY WITH A DUAL TRACK APPROACH. WE KEEP THIS CONTRACT IN PLACE, BUT WE MOVE DILIGENTLY TO PURSUE AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM. >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED SOMEONE TO DO THOSE TRANSCRIPTS, NO MATTER WHAT. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT YOUTUBE AND SEEN THEIR INTERPRETATION. IT'S NOT PERFECT. >> I ASKED HIM A QUESTION AND THEN I WENT OVER. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM HAS HIS HAND UP. >> I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI HAS THE FLOOR. GO AHEAD. >> IN THE EXHIBIT B, IT SAYS THAT THE AGREEMENT SHALL AUTOMATICALLY BRING YOU AFTER ONE YEAR FOR, I THINK, ANOTHER YEAR OR SO. LET'S STRIKE THAT SENTENCE FROM THERE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONLY FOR ONE YEAR. IN ADDITION, JUST FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING INTO THIS, THE CHALLENGE WITH AI RIGHT NOW IS IT CAN LISTEN TO THIS CONVERSATION OR WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO IDENTIFY WHO'S SPEAKING, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE MISS MANZANO, MR. ROZANSKI DIDN'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, AND I DIDN'T IDENTIFY MYSELF BEFORE I SPOKE, SO THE HUMAN IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO ALLOCATE WHAT THE SPEAKER IS UNLESS YOU TAG IT AND IT LEARNS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. >> THEY MAKE MISTAKES. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> THANK YOU. I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, COUNCILMEMBER BARON. IT'S A GREAT THOUGHT. THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T REALLY GO DOWN THIS PATH DURING STRATEGIC PLANNER, WHEN I SAW THIS, MY TERM IS UP HERE. THIS IS MADAM CLERK'S REALM. EVEN IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THE PATH, WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON, THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE PERSON REVIEW THE VERBIAGE, THE WRITTEN WORD VERSUS WHAT WAS SAID. I'M ON A LOT OF BOARD MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. I ACTUALLY USE ON ZOOM HAS A GREAT AI. THERE'S SOME OTHER PRODUCTS AS WELL. IF EVERYONE IN THE MEETING UNDERSTANDS IT'S BEING RECORDED IN THAT METHOD, IT WORKS FANTASTIC. [00:30:02] BUT IN A WRITTEN AS CUSTOMER BOT, YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S SAYING WHAT. THERE'S SOME PITFALLS, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING DOWN THIS PATH. WE ARE QUITE BEHIND BY GETTING THESE APPROVED, AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT IDEA. I DO LIKE THE IDEA AS HAVING GO FOR ONE YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE TO AGREE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL TO RENEW IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH. I DO SUPPORT YOU ON THAT. >> THANK YOU. YOUR HAND IS DOWN. >> NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT'S BEEN SAID. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE EXACT SAME THING, AI IS NOT WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE. IT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THINGS. IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK, WHETHER THEY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES OR THEY'RE CLEAR IN SPEAKING BECAUSE AI IS NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO GET THERE BECAUSE IT'S A LABOR AND TIME SAVING DEVICE, AND YOU DO NEED SOMEBODY TO REVIEW IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT NEEDS TO TAKE A YEAR TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I WOULD PUSH IT TOWARDS SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THE SWITCH OVER TO GRANICUS HAS TAKEN WAY TOO LONG. THE NEW SYSTEM AND WHAT GRANICUS HAS HAS TAKEN. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS NOW HOW MANY YEARS? A LOT. A LONG TIME. I WOULD PUSH FORWARD ON THAT. YOU COULD HAVE IT A YEAR, BUT WORK. I'M GONE IN A FEW WEEKS. WHOEVER IS HERE AND WHOEVER IS ON THE DAIS STILL SHOULD PUSH TOWARDS GETTING IT BECAUSE IT CAN DRAG ON FOREVER. >> HOW ABOUT ADDING A REPORT BACK IN SIX MONTHS ON THAT? >> SHORTER, OR THREE MONTHS. >> ON THE RFP? >> ON OUR MOTION. >> YEAH, FOR RFP. >> YEAH. >> RFP, REPORT BACK WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THREE MONTHS AND STRIKE THE ONE-YEAR EXTENSION IS WHAT I'VE GOT. >> DEFINITELY STRIKE THAT EXTENSION. >> THAT SOUNDS FINE. I WANT TO CHECK IN WITH OUR CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MISS. GO AHEAD. >> THE EXTENSION IS FOR A YEAR, AND THEN IF WE WANT TO EXTEND IT, WE WOULD WRITE A LETTER. >> IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC EXTENSION? >> NO, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC EXTENSION. IT SAYS UNLESS THE CITY CLERK OR THE DESIGNEE PROVIDES A WRITTEN NOTICE WITHIN 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION DATE. >> MADAM CLERK, I'M READING AS THIS AGREEMENT SHALL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW FOR ONE SUBSEQUENT YEAR UNDER THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNLESS THE CITY CLERK OR DESIGNEE PROVIDES WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE NON RENEWAL. >> NON RENEWAL. >> YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI IS CORRECT. IT IS AN AUTOMATIC. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A TERMINATION PROVISION THAT TRUMPS ALL THAT, WHERE YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY TERMINATE IT SOLELY AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION, AND WE ONLY HAVE TO PAY FOR WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE SINCE THEY'VE BEEN PAID OR ANY MATERIAL THEY'VE SENT. YOU'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE DECIDED. WHAT DOES NEED TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT IS, HOW SOON DO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN RFP REPORT BACK TO YOU OR BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION. >> THANK YOU. FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THAT'S NOT THE VOICE OF GOD, THAT'S OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MICHAEL. >> WELL, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY CLERK, FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IN ALLOWING OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO GET INVOLVED. WITH THAT SAID, YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. HOW SOON COULD AN RFP BE CRAFTED? I KNOW YOU WERE RECENTLY AT THE CITY MANAGERS CONFERENCE. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF NETWORKING AND CONTACTS OF FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS. LONG STORY SHORT, WHAT'S A REALISTIC TIMELINE FOR YOU TO COME BACK? >> WELL, WE'VE GOT AN ELECTION IN MARCH, AND WE WILL HAVE BUDGET PREPARATION AND PRESENTATION IN MAY, WHICH WILL BE PRECEDED BY ANOTHER STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION IN APRIL AND COMMISSIONER INPUT THROUGH MOST OF THOSE MONTHS. IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO, I THINK, HOW MUCH TIME OUR INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR CAN COMMIT TO THIS, MR. COOK. THREE MONTHS SEEMS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE TO ME, BUT I DO THINK WE COULD HAVE A REPORT BACK TO YOU BY THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. I THINK WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU GOING INTO BUDGET SEASON. >> RFP OUT BEFORE THEN, WE CAN HAVE THE RFP GET OUT. >> YEAH. WE CAN HAVE THE RFP OUT BEFORE THEN, CERTAINLY, AND WE COULD HAVE SOME RESULTS BACK FROM RESPONSE STANDPOINT, INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH OUR OPTIONS. IDEALLY, WE WOULD FUNNEL THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET CONVERSATION, REALLY AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO INVEST IN THIS SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION IF ONE SOLUTION EXISTS. >> THAT'S A FAIR POINT. WE'VE GOT MONEY ON THE TABLE HERE WITH MS. LAU'S CONTRACT, WHICH COULD COME OUT TO 175,000 OR MORE, POTENTIALLY, SO THE MONEY'S THERE. LONG STORY SHORT, RFP CAN PROBABLY GET OUT WITHIN? >> WE CAN HAVE THE RFP OUT WITHIN THREE MONTHS. THE REAL QUESTION IS, CAN WE SYNTHESIZE THE DATA TO GET YOU A REPORT BACK IN THAT SAME TIME FRAME? >> YOU THINK BEGINNING OF JUNE? >> YEAH, I THINK WE'RE END OF JUNE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM, ANY THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THAT. YOU'RE GOOD? [00:35:02] >> I LIKE THE TIME FRAMES. >> LET'S GET TO A MOTION. >> THE CONTRACT CANCELS, FOR SURE. >> THERE ISN'T AUTOMATIC CANCELLATION PROVISION, SO THE CITY CAN CANCEL IT ANYTIME. >> WELL, ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE SO YOU KNOW FOR FUTURE REFERENCE IS THAT IF WE HAVE THIS AUTOMATICALLY JUST RENEW, THE COUNCIL MAY FORGET. AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS, SENDS A DEADLINE, NOT WE, THE COUNCIL IN A YEAR FROM NOW WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE ABLE TO BE FORCED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN, THAT'S A GREAT CHECK IN FOR THE FUTURE COUNCILS. >> WE COULD CHANGE THE OPTION TO RENEW TO REQUIRE COUNCIL'S AFFIRMATIVE APPROVAL OF A RENEWAL. THIS WILL BE THE MOTION. RFP TO BE ISSUED WITHIN THREE MONTHS. >> YOU GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THAT. I THINK THE SOLICITATION WILL DETERMINE. >> SOME COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION. >> A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION WITHIN THREE MONTHS, A REPORT BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. >> AS PART OF THE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS. >> AS PART OF THE BR, BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS. ANYTHING ELSE? >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> IS THAT IT? GOOD. THAT'S THE MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? >> NO. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ONE. >> I'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN. IS THE MOTION CLEAR? >> IT IS. >> ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> PASSES. YOU'VE GOT THE NEXT ONE SUBSECTION 8 OF THAT SAME H5. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I PULLED IT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN, SO WE COULD DO THE VOTE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT ANNOUNCING THAT HE'S GOING TO ABSTAIN. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS SUBITEM 8 UNDER H5? ANYONE ONLINE? >> I HAVE NONE. >> ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> ABSTAIN. >> ONE ABSTAIN. >> YEAH. >> FOUR TO ONE. THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM H12, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS YOURS, COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> THAT WAS ME. I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT'S A BIG ITEM. I'M WONDERING IF MR. KAPOVICH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM. >> YEAH. >> TALKING ABOUT IT, AND MAYBE ONE OF THE THOMASES THAT ARE HERE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THIS IS A LONG TERM, IF THE OPTION IS EXECUTED. >> WHAT IS IT? >> IT IS FOR THE PORT ROYAL MARINA. WE HAVE A LOT OF BOATERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, A LOT OF LIVEABOARD BOATERS AS WELL, TOO. THIS IS THEIR HOME, AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE AS PART OF THIS. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD MAYBE TELL THE AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE TUNING IN ONLINE AND AT HOME WHAT THIS IS. >> SURE. GREG KAPOVICH, WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY INVEST IN THE PORT ROYAL MARINA. IT WAS BUILT MANY DECADES AGO. WITH THIS OPTION AGREEMENT, THE EXISTING LEASEHOLDER WILL EFFECTIVELY REBUILD A HOME THAT SLIPS OUT THERE. THERE ARE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN TERMS OF OBTAINING ENTITLEMENTS, COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVALS, BUILDING PERMITS, AND WHEN THOSE THRESHOLDS ALL GET CHECKED OFF, A 50-YEAR LEASE IS THEN EXTENDED. IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR US IN TERMS OF IT'S AT LEAST A $14 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S BEING TAKEN ON BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. >> ANYBODY MAYBE LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PLANS FOR THE AREA AND WHY THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR THE CITY AND FOR OUR BOATERS. >> MY NAME IS KEVIN KETCHUM. FIRST, DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS AND ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS? >> NO. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THE FIRST TIME I WAS IN YOUR BUILDING WAS IN '86. [LAUGHTER] >> HASN'T CHANGED. >> THAT'S WHERE WE THE CITY COUNCIL THEN CONSENTED TO THE THOMAS FAMILY AND MYSELF BEING INVOLVED WITH THE LEASE OF PORT ROYAL MARINA. GERALD THOMAS IS HERE, HIS SONS, LEE AND CAMERON, AND I GET TO BE THE SPOKESMAN BECAUSE I GET TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS. BUT OUR VISION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO PROVIDE A FIRST CLASS RECREATIONAL YACHT MARINA. THAT'S OUR GOAL. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PLAN AND THE OPTION GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE MEET ALL THOSE CRITERIA TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A REAL PROJECT TO START IMMEDIATELY. [00:40:03] THIS IS NOT GIVING US A LONG TERM LEASE TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST LAYING OUT THE GROUNDWORK OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH ALL THE DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL PROCESSES TO PROVIDE YOU AND THE CITIZENS AND THE BOATERS. WE BRING TO THE TABLE, I THINK, A UNIQUE FAMILY, THREE GENERATIONS IN THE MARINA BUSINESS. LEE FIRST, MY ASSISTANT. WHEN I PHASE OUT, HE MOVES IN. CAMERON IS THE MARINA MANAGER AT PORT ROYAL. HE WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS PROJECT. BUT WE ALSO BRING A PROFESSIONALISM TO MARINA MANAGEMENT. WE'RE NOT JUST A MOM AND POP. WE'RE RECOGNIZED AT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE MARINA BUSINESS. SIMPLY PUT, WHAT OUR GOAL IS IS TO PROVIDE A WORLD CLASS, FIRST CLASS RECREATIONAL YACHT MARINA. >> THANKS, KEVIN. I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS IS ONE OF THE EASIER DECISIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TO MAKE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BIG DEAL, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN FIRST CLASS IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS, AND WE KNOW YOU EXECUTE. I KNOW A LOT OF THE BOATERS THAT ARE THERE AND THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION. I'M THRILLED FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. HOPEFULLY, I'M SURE I WOULD THINK IT WOULD. BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. KETCHUM? COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> I HAVE A LOT TO SAY, BUT I CAN BOIL IT DOWN TO VERY SIMPLE THINGS. EVERYONE KNOWS THE CURRENT LEASE IN PORT ROYAL EXPIRES IN 2031, WHICH IS AROUND THE TIME A LOT OF LEASES EXPIRE IN THIS CITY IN THE HARBOR. THIS IS AN EXTENSION FOR 50 YEARS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING $14 MILLION, RIGHT? >> MINIMUM. >> MINIMUM. I'LL JUST SAY THIS. WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE BACK, AND THERE'S A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE GIVEN THROUGH THE YEARS. THIS IS A COLLECTION OF, I WAS GOING TO SAY TWO COUNCILS, BUT IT REALLY IS THREE COUNCILS BECAUSE THIS STARTED BACK ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, TWO COUNCILS AGO. WE LEARNED A LOT THROUGH ALL THE MANY BUSINESS DEALINGS AND LEGAL ISSUES. THERE'S A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES. KEVIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK, ANY BROAD STROKES REGARDING CHECKS AND INVESTMENTS, TIME FRAMES. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT, TO COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN'S POINT, GOOD PARTNER. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIT ALL THESE DATES, TIME FRAMES OF INVESTMENTS. >> YES. >> I WILL ADD ONE THING, AND THAT IS THE LATE MAYOR BRAND RAVED ABOUT YOU GUYS AND SAID NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS ABOUT YOU. THAT'S A HUGE [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE SAY THE SAME ABOUT MAYOR BRAND. >> THERE WAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THERE. I JUST WANT THE BOATERS TO KNOW IN THE HARBOR, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE'VE LEARNED A LOT THESE LAST FEW YEARS. LIVEABOARDS, FEES, EXPENSES, THINGS THAT ARE CHARGED TO PEOPLE. MASTER LEASES THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR VERY LONG TIME. WE'VE LOOKED AT A LONG WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 30, 40, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, AND ENSURE THAT THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL, HIGH QUALITY THERE. I KNOW WHEN THERE WAS ANOTHER LEASE THAT WAS TRANSFERRED, THERE WASN'T A VALUE GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR THE VALUE INCREASE. THERE'S THAT IN HERE. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, MR. KETCHUM, IS A VERY GOOD POINT, IS THIS LEASE IS ACTUALLY REALLY JUST A STRUCTURE TO GET US TO 2031, AND THEN IT KICKS OFF FOR A 50 YEAR LEASE. >> OUR GOAL IS NOT TO WAIT, GUESS ABOUT TIMELINES. OUR GAME PLAN IS TO ACT IMMEDIATELY. WE HAVE A LOT OF ENTITLEMENTS. IT'LL TAKE YEARS TO GET THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENTS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR '31 TO START. WE JUST MET FOR EARLY DINNER TONIGHT BEFORE, AND OUR DISCUSSION WAS, WITHIN A YEAR, WE'VE GOT TO SERIOUSLY START THE PROCESS, SO WE'RE NOT WAITING. THE LEASE PROVIDES FOR US TO DO THAT. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT STAFF IN THE LEARNING CURVE. IT'S TAKEN SEVERAL YEARS TO GET HERE. BUT I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S CONCERNS. THERE'S BEEN ISSUES BROUGHT UP AND WHAT IS A GOOD WAY TO RESOLVE THAT LEGITIMATE CONCERN. WE COMPLIMENT STAFF. [00:45:02] I THINK THEY ARTICULATED THE CONCERNS WELL, AND I THINK WE HAD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP TO FAIRLY RESOLVE THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES. THE SIMPLE ONE IS ON SLIP FEES. ANYTHING THAT'S GENERATED FROM A SLIP PAYS THE 27%. >> WHICH IS A GOOD RATE, I HEARD. >> OH, YOU GOT US FOR A GOOD RATE, BUT THE TRUTH IS, IN THE MARKETPLACE, THEY'RE 16-25%, BUT WE'VE PAID 27% SINCE THE DAY WE GOT HERE. IN GOOD FAITH, HOW DO YOU COME BACK AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT TO WHY TREAT US DIFFERENT? WELL, THAT IS THE BEST RATE THAT ANYONE'S GETTING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BUT IT'S ALSO A GREAT HARBOR. >> I'LL JUST END WITH SAYING, I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS. WE LISTENED, WE LEARNED AND NOW WE'RE SEMI INKING A STRUCTURE FOR A LONG TERM DEAL. I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'M GOING TO PILE ON. [LAUGHTER] WHEN I GOT IN AS MAYOR, WE SCHEDULED A SIT DOWN, MR. KETCHUM AND I. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR AN HOUR. [LAUGHTER] IF WE STARTED AT 3:00, I REMEMBER GETTING HOME AT EIGHT O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT. >> SORRY. >> WELL, NO, I WAS THROWING A LOT AT YOU AND YOU WERE TELLING ME WHY I WAS WRONG. [LAUGHTER] BUT I WAS WRONG. [LAUGHTER] YOU WERE VERY REASONABLE IN THAT CONVERSATION, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. EVEN BEFORE BECOMING MAYOR AS A BOATER OUT THERE, YOU HAVE A FINE REPUTATION IN THE HARBOR. I APPRECIATE THE FAMILY GIVING YOU THE LEEWAY TO OPERATE AS A GOOD OPERATOR, YOU'RE NOT PINCHING PENNIES, DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO BE A REPUTABLE OPERATOR AND A PARTNER FOR THE WHOLE BOATING COMMUNITY AND APPRECIATE THAT. CAMERON, LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING DOWN THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU BOTH. APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND TO THE FAMILY AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> I WILL ADD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK UP, BUT MR. KETCHUM ALSO ADVISES THE STATE ON NEW REGULATIONS, WHEN THEY WANT TO START UP, HOW DO YOU BUILD A MARINA, HOW DO YOU BUILD A RAMP. KEVIN KETCHUM IS THERE TO HELP ADVISE THEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF GUY HE IS. HE'S WELL RESPECTED ACROSS THE STATE. WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM WITH THAT. >> MOTION TO APPROVE H.12. [LAUGHTER] >> I WILL SECOND. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS H.12? ANYONE ONLINE? >> I HAVE NONE. >> ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> THAT PASSES. H.14. I BELIEVE THAT WAS YOUR YEARS, COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> YEAH. THIS IS THE CANVAS ITEM. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WANTING TO TALK ON IT. I VOTED NO ON IT LAST WEEK. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT DIRECTOR WIENER. REAL QUICK, DIRECTOR. WE SENT THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER A COUPLE OF MINOR CHANGES FOR THE PARK, DALE PAGE. >> YES. >> THEN ALSO THE RECONSIDERATION REGARDING THE 1,000 FOOT RULE THAT WE TOOK OUT. BUT SOME MAJOR AMENDMENTS WERE MADE. LAST TIME, LAST WEEK, TOOK OUT 13 PROPERTIES ABOUT A MILE OR TWO OFF STREET. THE SUBJECT MATTER WASN'T AGENDIZED AS SUCH. WOULDN'T THAT REQUIRE US TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF PUTTING A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THESE MAJOR CHANGES? >> YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE LAW ISN'T VERY CLEAR ON WHAT EXTENT DID THE AMENDMENTS HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE IS STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT ANY ORDINANCES OR LAND USE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED DO FIRST REQUIRE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THIS ORDINANCE CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THERE WERE CHANGES TO SOME OF THE POLICIES, THE PROVISIONS. PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY BE ABLE TO OPINE ON THAT QUESTION. >> YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO STATE LAW OR ORDINANCE. IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION LAST MEETING, YOU COULD HAVE SAID, OH, AND I WANT THIS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GET THEIR TAKE ON IT. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY ADOPTED ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON, BUT THE OPTION WAS YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE MOTION. [00:50:02] BUT AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU'RE VIOLATING ANY STATE LAW OR CITY ORDINANCE, I DON'T BELIEVE SO BY NOT SENDING IT BACK. >> WE'RE MAKING A MAJOR CHANGE TO THIS, SO I WOULD WANT TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT THEY WANTED TO GIVE ON A WHOLE HOST OF ITEMS, AND THEY HAD A WHOLE LOT OF CONVERSATION REGARDING ARTESIA BOULEVARD AS A WHOLE. I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS A MAJOR CHANGE IN WHAT WAS TITLED AND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED. I WOULD NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS KNOWING THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN SURROUNDING AND LOOKING AT THE PROCESS, EVERYONE IS SCRUTINIZING THIS PROCESS. HAVING US SEND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK WOULD BE A VERY BORROW TERM FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, BELTS AND SUSPENDERS KIND OF APPROACH. I WOULD APPROVE SENDING THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS. THAT WOULD BE MY FAVOR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> I WANTED TO PULL THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE CROSSED OUT ARTESIA BOULEVARD WEST OF INGLEWOOD FROM AN ALLOWABLE PLACE TO PUT A CANNABIS STORE. THAT WAS GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PARENTS CONCERNED ABOUT CANNABIS STORES ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD. BUT WHAT IT DID WAS IT SENT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES ANYWHERE NEAR AVIATION INTO AN EXTREME PANIC BECAUSE IT SIGNALED TO THEM NOW THE ONLY PLACE IN NORTH REDONDO OR DISTRICT 4 THAT WOULD ALLOW CANNABIS IS EITHER EAST OF INGLEWOOD ON ARTESIA OR AVIATION. AVIATION, AS I'VE SAID, PRETTY MUCH IN EVERY MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD HERE ON CANNABIS, IS THE MOST ILL-SUITED SPACE FOR A CANNABIS DISPENSARY. BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE WONDERFUL LAVENDER & HONEY THAT JUST OPENED UP ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO ON AVIATION, YOU'VE BEEN THERE AROUND 11:00, 12:00, GOOD LUCK FINDING PARKING THERE. THERE IS INADEQUATE PARKING ON AVIATION FOR A CANNABIS DISPENSARY THAT'S LIKELY TO DRIVE IN PEOPLE FROM A SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AS THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING A STUDENT WHO CAME UP AND TESTIFIED, HAVE MADE US AWARE WHEN THEY DID HAVE AN UNLAWFUL CANNABIS DISPENSARY ON AVIATION, THEY HAD PEOPLE PARKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT PEOPLE EATING AND SMOKING IN THEIR CAR IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES AND DUMPING TRASH THERE, AND THERE WAS SOME PETTY CRIME THAT OCCURRED AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE OTHER POINT IS THIS. IMAGINE THE STAFFERS WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN AND HAVE TO RANK THE APPLICATIONS BASED ON WHO THE OWNERS OF THE OPERATION ARE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THEY MAY HAVE HEARD US OR ME AND THE RESIDENT WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE THAT AVIATION IS A POOR SPOT FOR A CANNABIS DISPENSARY. BUT THEY MAY RANK THAT DISPENSARY HIGH BECAUSE OF THE OPERATOR AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THEN IT'S GOING TO COME TO US, AND I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR CANNABIS DISPENSARY ON AVIATION. IT ALSO LEADS TO A FALSE EXPECTATION ON BEHALF OF THE CANNABIS DISPENSARY APPLICANTS BECAUSE THEY MAY THEN TAKE OUT AN INTEREST IN PROPERTY ON AVIATION THINKING THEY HAVE A SHOT THERE. I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE THEM FAIR RULES TO PLAY BY FROM THE GET GO. I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPT NO CANNABIS DISPENSARIES ON AVIATION SOUTH OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD OR WEST OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD. >> DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT BY ORDINANCE 3287-25, 3288-25,3289-25 AMENDED TO EXCLUDE FROM THE ZONING MAP ANY PORTIONS ON AVIATION WHERE IT CURRENTLY WOULD ALLOW IT. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REINTRODUCE THE ITEM AND PROBABLY SCHEDULE IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST BE MARCH 11TH, AND THEN YOU CAN REINTRODUCE THAT LANGUAGE, WE CAN PUBLICLY NOTICE THAT LANGUAGE, MAKE SURE THAT HEARING COVERS THAT FAIRLY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, AND COUNCIL WILL HAVE A DELIBERATION CONSIDERATION OF THAT. THEN IF THAT PURSUES FURTHER, IT COULD BE ADOPTED THE FOLLOWING MEETING, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THAT CHANGE. I DON'T BELIEVE UNLESS CHERYL OR MIKE TELL ME OTHERWISE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE THAT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TONIGHT AND ADOPT. [00:55:02] >> I REGRET THAT I DIDN'T [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE CAN. OUR CHARTER PROVIDES THAT YOU'D HAVE TO REINTRODUCE IT. IT'S HARD TO REINTRODUCE IT WHEN THIS HOUSE DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE LANGUAGE. BUT YOU COULD REINTRODUCE IT TONIGHT IF THE MOTION IS CLEAR AS TO WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING IT, AND IT COULD BE ADOPTED AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> WELL, MAYBE LET'S MAKE THAT THE MOTION. I WILL WORK ON WHAT LANGUAGE WE CAN ADOPT. I'LL GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND TRY TO PINPOINT IT. BUT IF THIS DOES GET KICKED TO NEXT MONTH, I REGRET THE DELAY. I SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS DECISION ON THE SPOT, BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET CONSENSUS HERE OF EVERYBODY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> JUST NO MOTION RIGHT NOW. LET'S HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN [OVERLAPPING] I'LL WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST, JIM MUELLER, AND THEN MELISSA DECHANDT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JIM MUELLER. I'M FROM DISTRICT 5. AS ALWAYS IS A PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU, AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE IN AMERICA THAT WE AND ME AN ORDINARY CITIZEN CAN SHARE MY VIEWS WITH YOU. MAYOR LIGHT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LAST WEEK, SPEAKING YOUR MIND AND SHARING YOUR OPINION ABOUT CANNABIS AND RETAILING AND DISTRIBUTION AND THE WHOLE UGLY ISSUE THAT'S CONFRONTING OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLEASE SPEAK OUT ON THE PROVISION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS PRIVATE HOUSEHOLD CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING. PER THE LAW, RESULTING FROM PROPOSITION 64 CALLED AUMA, THE CITIES MAY NOT ONLY BAN RETAIL CANNABIS, BUT ALSO PRIVATE CULTIVATION PROCESSING OF THE PLANT AND ITS PRODUCTS. ONLY 18 OF THE 88 LA COUNTY CITIES ALLOW PRIVATE CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING, AND NONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ALLOW IT EXCEPT HAWTHORNE. WHY? BECAUSE THIS ACTIVITY PRODUCES AN UNCONTROLLED SUPPLY OF A HABIT FORMING, INTOXICATING CONSUMABLE PRODUCT, AS YOU POINTED OUT, MAYOR LIGHT. CAN YOU IMAGINE 100 LITTLE WEED GROWING PROCESSING PLANTS AROUND THE CITY? DOES THE COUNCIL EXPECT THAT NONE OF IT WILL ESCAPE INTO THE COMMUNITY? WHEN THAT HAPPENS, DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT IT WILL BECOME A LARGE HEALTH AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM, COSTING THE TAXPAYERS THOUSANDS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TAX DOLLARS, NOT TO MENTION THE LIVES AND FUTURES OF LIVES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED? I URGE YOU TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO MAKE ILLEGAL THE SELLING OF CANNABIS CULTIVATION TOOLS AND SUPPLIES AND THE PRIVATE CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING OF CANNABIS IN REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MELISSA DECHANDT, AND THEN MARYCLAIRE SCANLON. >> HI. GOOD EVENING, MELISSA DECHANDT, DISTRICT 1 RESIDENT. THANK YOU ALL, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, STAFF. IT REALLY IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK HERE. I JUST WANT TO FIRST STRESS, I'VE BEEN URGING YOU ALL FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS TO CONSIDER A DELIVERY ONLY MODEL. I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE CITIES THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY HAD A DELIVERY ONLY MODEL. THOUSAND OAKS IS A CITY THAT COMES TO MIND. ALSO EL SEGUNDO VOTED FOR DELIVERY ONLY. THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH IT. HERMOSA BEACH VOTED FOR DELIVERY ONLY. THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT. THEN I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. THE FIRST IS ON SB 1186, WHICH CLEARLY ONLY ALLOWS FOR MEDICINAL DELIVERY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RHETORIC ABOUT ALL OF THIS CANNABIS COMING INTO THE CITY, AND IT IS LEGALLY THROUGH MEDICINAL CANNABIS. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND WHO'S BRINGING IT IN, THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DO, WHICH I'VE RECOMMENDED FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS IS TO PASS A TAX FOR MEDICINAL DELIVERY. THE DAY THAT YOU PASS THAT TAX, 24 HOURS LATER, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE STATE'S TRACK AND TRACE PROGRAM. YOU SEE WHICH COMPANIES ARE BRINGING IT IN, WHO THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO, THE AMOUNT, AND THE MANUFACTURER. ALSO IN ORDER TO GET DELIVERY FOR MEDICINAL CANNABIS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MEDICINAL CARD, YOU HAVE TO SHARE THAT, SHOW THAT PRIOR TO THE APPOINTMENT, AND THEN YOU SHOW ID WHEN YOU GET THERE. IT'S A VERY SAFE SYSTEM THAT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT'S COMING IN. I WANTED TO ADDRESS READ UP TO PROTECT OUR STATE OR CITY. [01:00:03] THE REALITY IS IS THAT ANY SINGLE PERSON INDIVIDUALS COULD PUT FORTH ANOTHER BALLOT INITIATIVE, GET ENOUGH SIGNATURES, PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR NEXT MARCH OF 2026. THAT COULD EASILY HAPPEN, WHETHER WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR NOT. I THINK THAT'S NOT REALLY IN MY MIND, A RATIONAL REASON TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE. ALSO I THINK KNOWING THE REALITIES RIGHT NOW, THE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY IS FACING THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, I'LL ADD. IT'S JUST A HORRIBLY TAXED PRODUCT. THE CHANCES OF SOMEONE FROM THAT INDUSTRY MOUNTING ANOTHER BALLOT INITIATIVE AFTER FOUR LOSSES IN EL SEGUNDO, MANHATTAN BEACH, HERMOSA BEACH, REDONDO BEACH, TO ME DOESN'T SEEM VERY PLAUSIBLE. FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY I'VE HEARD COMMENTS THAT I'M A CRUSADER OF ONE, AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO, AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE SHARING THEIR VOICES. IT'S NOT JUST ME, BUT I URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY WANT AND COME UP WITH A WIN WIN SOLUTION. KUDOS TO OUR DISTRICT 5 RESIDENT FOR LISTENING TO HIS RESIDENTS. KUDOS TO OUR DISTRICT 3 REPRESENTATIVE FOR LISTENING TO HER RESIDENTS. I APPRECIATE IT ALL. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF YOU ON THIS, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE THINGS YOU DO DO FOR OUR CITY, AND THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BOTH OF YOU. IT'S APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MARYCLAIRE SCANLON AND THEN COURTNEY CARON. >> HI. I'M MARYCLAIRE SCANLON. THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU. I'M A DISTRICT 1 RESIDENT OF 20 YEARS AND A PARENT OF THREE. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE. I'M OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANY DISPENSARIES. I DON'T CARE. PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE ALCOHOL. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE ALCOHOL STORES IN OUR DISTRICT EITHER. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO END UP AT THE BEACH. THERE'S PLENTY OF RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT WHEN THERE ARE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, THAT THE YOUTH USE INCREASES 26%. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE BEACH AND SMELL ANYMORE THAN I'M ALREADY SMELLING, AND WE WILL BECOME A TOURIST DESTINATION FOR THIS, SINCE THE SURROUNDING CITIES ARE NOT DOING THIS. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT SUPPORTS THIS DELIVERY AND YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TAXING THAT, TO GO AHEAD AND TAX THAT. WHY NOT? BUT PLEASE DO NOT BRING IN ANY DISPENSARIES TO OUR CITY. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONLINE COMMENTS, THEY'RE STRONGLY OPPOSING THIS. THE PREVIOUS BALLOT ISSUE CLEARLY SAID THAT PEOPLE DID NOT WANT THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF YOUR VOTERS AND RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COURTNEY CARON, AND THEN NIKKI VASQUEZ. >> GOOD EVENING. COURTNEY CARON. I'M OBVIOUSLY AN ADVOCATE FOR CANNABIS PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I'M A PTA PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE MOTHER OF THREE. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU HAVE A DELIVERY MODEL AND ONLY A DELIVERY MODEL, THIS DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF CANNABIS BEING ON YOUR BEACHES. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT DELIVERED TO THEIR HOUSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE TO THE BEACHES AND THEY'RE GOING TO SMOKE WEED IF THAT WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THEIR CITIES. DELIVERY MODELS ARE FAILING ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THERE IS NO REASON WHY NOT TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO STRENGTHEN YOUR ZONING AND YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE WHERE YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY GOING TO ALLOW CANNABIS STORES, THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE REASONS WHY YOU'RE DOING THAT AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR HOW MANY PROPERTIES ARE BEING PULLED BACK FROM ALLOWABLE PROPERTIES AS IT IS. FINDING PROPERTIES IN REDONDO BEACH IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING THE BEST RETAILERS TO THE AREA, THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RETAILERS, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR DESIRABLE AREAS TO LOCATE THEIR STORES THAT HAVE PARKING, AND THAT ALSO ARE AVAILABLE. I AM SPEAKING WITH MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING AND THEY'RE ALL GETTING VERY FRIGHTENED ABOUT THE LEASES THAT THEY'VE ALREADY ENTERED AND ALSO FINDING PROPERTIES THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR THEIR BUSINESSES. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT AN ARTIST TREE OR EMBARC OR SWEET FLOWER OR HAVEN OR ANY OF THE OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN APPLYING, BUT THESE ARE NOT THROWN TOGETHER CRAPPY BUSINESSES. THESE ARE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR STATE-OF-THE-ART RETAIL STORES WITH THE PROPER SECURITY, [01:05:02] WITH BEAUTIFULLY LAID OUT RETAIL STORE DESIGNED BY SOME OF THE BEST RETAIL STORE DESIGNERS IN THE NATION WHO HAVE NOT ONLY DESIGNED OTHER RETAIL STORES, BUT ALSO CANNABIS BUSINESSES. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN THROWING TOGETHER. YOU ALL AND US HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR YEARS TO PUT TOGETHER THE RIGHT PROGRAM FOR THIS CITY. I WOULD ASK THAT WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ON WHERE IT IS THAT WE ARE SAYING YOU CAN AND CANNOT GO FROM HERE ON OUT, BECAUSE WHAT YOU WILL END UP DOING IS MAKING AND AGGRAVATING MORE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE ARE SAYING YOU CAN GO AND MAKING THOSE IN THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS HAPPY, AND IT BECOMES A BIG PROBLEM. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED AND BROUGHT TO ME TODAY WAS THIS IDEA OF A VETO POWER BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I LOOKED IN THE CODE AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT SAID THAT A PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER HAD A VETO POWER ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A CANNABIS BUSINESS THAT WAS GOING TO BE ALLOWED IN THE AREA. NOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE IS ONE IN YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT AND YOU'RE LIKE, I DON'T WANT ONE HERE, THAT YOU CERTAINLY CAN BRING THE OPPOSITION, AND IT DOES MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT GETTING THROUGH PLANNING AND THEN EVENTUALLY THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL IS MAKING THAT FINAL VOTE. BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE AND AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO CAUSING LOTS OF GOSSIP AND DRAMA ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS THIS VETO POWER THAT EXISTS, AND IF THERE IS, I WOULD LOVE IF SOMEBODY WHO WOULD EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE TO FIND THAT BECAUSE I HAVE NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. NIKKI VASQUEZ, AND THEN KARINE NELSON. >> HELLO, COUNCIL, AND MAYOR LIGHT. MY NAME IS NIKKI VASQUEZ, AND I'M A DC RESIDENT AND PARENT OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN. I STRONGLY OPPOSE RETAIL CANNABIS STOREFRONTS IN REDONDO BEACH. ONCE AGAIN, I AM URGING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS AND THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LISTENING TO US. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE PART IN NORMALIZING CANNABIS USE AMONG OUR YOUTH. WE DO NOT NEED STOREFRONT DISPENSARIES. WE CAN PROVIDE DELIVERY ONLY LIKE OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. HERMOSA BEACH, MANHATTAN BEACH AND EL SEGUNDO ALL HAVE DELIVERY ONLY AND NO STOREFRONT SHOPS. THIS IS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO FACILITATE THE NEEDS OF THOSE LEGALLY ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN CANNABIS YOUTH, WHILE STILL KEEPING IT OUT OF SIGHT FOR OUR YOUTH. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR CITY AND OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. KARINE NELSON, AND THEN THE LAST CARD I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS CLAUDIA [INAUDIBLE]. >> HELLO. I THINK I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, STAFF. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR CITY. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TODAY AT ALL, BUT I FEEL LIKE I AM COMPELLED TO SPEAK UP FOR THIS. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR OUR CITY AND FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS HERE. MY NAME IS KARINE NELSON. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 2 AND A PARENT. I'M A MOM TO TWO WONDERFUL KIDS AND OUR INCREDIBLE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. I STRONGLY OPPOSE RETAIL CANNABIS IN REDONDO BEACH. OPENING LEGAL RETAIL CANNABIS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT ILLEGAL CANNABIS ACTIVITY WILL CEASE TO EXIST WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. IT DOES, HOWEVER, GUARANTEE A NORMALCY AND ACCEPTANCE OVER CONSTANT CANNABIS STOREFRONT PRESENCE WITHIN OUR CITY. FOR THE SAKE OF OUR YOUTH AND OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY AND SAFE COMMUNITY, I DO NOT WANT OUR CITY TO NORMALIZE THE USE OF CANNABIS WITH A STOREFRONT. NOW, IN ORDER FOR ANY BUSINESS TO SURVIVE, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT MUST ADVERTISE. CERTAINLY. THIS MARKETING WILL REACH OUR COMMUNITY AND WILL THEREFORE ALSO REACH THE IMPRESSIONABLE YOUNG MINDS. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ADULT RESIDENTS AND SENIOR RESIDENTS EXPRESSED A WISH TO USE CANNABIS WITHIN OUR CITY, AND I RESPECT THEIR CHOICE. THEY CAN HAVE IT LEGALLY AND SAFELY DELIVERED TO THEIR HOMES. WE VOTED FOR OUR CITY TO COLLECT TAX REVENUE FROM THE SALE OF DELIVERED CANNABIS. THE MAJORITY OF OUR VOTERS ALSO REJECTED OPENING STORE FRONT CANNABIS IN REDONDO BEACH. CURRENTLY, OUR REDONDO BEACH COMMUNITY ENJOYS THE REPUTATION OF BEING A FAMILY FRIENDLY CITY. LET'S KEEP OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY AND SAFE COMMUNITY, AND PLEASE NOT REPLACE IT WITH THE DESTINATION OF CANNABIS TOURISM. I STRONGLY OPPOSE OPENING RETAIL CANNABIS WITHIN REDONDO BEACH CITY LIMITS. I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, AND I APPRECIATE IT AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. CLAUDIA, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANYONE ELSE. THAT'S MY LAST CARD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CLAUDIA ANGLO, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 1. I HAVE TWO TEENAGE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND REDONDO HIGH SCHOOL AND ONE AT PARIS MIDDLE SCHOOL. [01:10:04] I AM BORN AND RAISED HERE IN THE SOUTH BAY, BUT MOVED TO REDONDO BEACH 25 YEARS AGO. MY DECISION FOR MOVING HERE WAS TO FORM AND RAISE A FAMILY IN A VERY WELL COMMUNITY THAT IS FAMILY ORIENTED AND CONSERVATIVE. AS A CONCERNED PARENT, MY FAMILY, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE ALLOWING MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES IN REDONDO BEACH. MARIJUANA IS A KNOWN GATEWAY DRUG, AND ITS PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY COULD INCREASE THE RISK OF YOUTH EXPOSURE TO STRONGER, MORE DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES. ADDITIONALLY, TODAY'S MARIJUANA PRODUCTS CAN BE CONTAMINATED WITH HARMFUL CHEMICALS POSING SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS. REDONDO BEACH IS A FAMILY-ORIENTED COMMUNITY, AND WE MUST PRIORITIZE THE WELL BEING OF OUR CHILDREN. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME INDIVIDUALS USE MARIJUANA FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES, THEY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS THROUGH MAIL ORDER SERVICES. THERE IS NO NEED TO INTRODUCE DISPENSARIES THAT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR STATE SAFE AND FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. OUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN BEST DISTINGUISHED AS THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN LOS ANGELES. NORMALIZING CANNABIS USE TO OUR YOUTH IS NOT RECOMMENDED. I AM A REALTOR, AND I'VE BEEN HELPING SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES FOR OVER 25 YEARS. IT'S A PRIVILEGE, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE HERE IN REDONDO BEACH AND TO BE ABLE TO LET OUR COMMUNITIES KNOW THAT WE ARE FAMILY-ORIENTED. SO I DO ASK FOR YOU GUYS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR ENVIRONMENT SAFE, TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, AND TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES SAFE AS WELL. SO I STRONGLY URGE YOU GUYS TO PLEASE RECONSIDER AND LISTEN TO IF YOU GUYS CAN LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TONY ZULIGER. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 4, AND I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CANNABIS STUFF, BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MY BROTHER AND MY FATHER RENTED A BUILDING OUT TO A COMPANY THAT SOLD VAPING PRODUCTS, AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDED BUSINESS TO THE CITY AND THE CITY APPROVED IT, AND MOVED IN. BUT THEY DIDN'T LAST. ONE REASON IT DIDN'T LAST IS BECAUSE THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD ISSUES WITH UNDERAGE KIDS GOING TO THE BUSINESS AND BUYING A VAPING PRODUCT AND SMOKING IT, WHICH BECAME A BIG PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS. WE KNOW STILL THAT CANNABIS IS A PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS. IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED MORE PRECISELY WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THE STUDENTS. THE CITY, I'M SURE DRIVING IN STREETS HERE WE ALL DRIVE, AND YOU'LL BE DRIVING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU GET THIS WAFT OF SMELL, AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT PERSON THAT'S EITHER IN FRONT OF YOU OR NEXT TO YOU IS SMOKING CANNABIS, WHICH IS ILLEGAL. IT'S THE SAME AS DRUNK-DRIVING. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY TO TEST SOMEBODY FOR UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF CANNABIS. MAYBE THERE IS NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW. FOR THAT REASON, I'M NOT FOR THE SALE OF CANNABIS IN THE CITY. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD DO THE CITY ANY GOOD. IF MY GREAT UNCLE WAS STILL MAYOR OF REDONDO, HE WOULD HAVE DOWNED IT RIGHT AWAY. I DON'T THINK HAVING A CANNABIS DISPENSARY IN THE CITY ANYWHERE WOULD DO THE CITY ANY GOOD. I THINK AS ONE LADY WAS STATING THAT YOU BRING GOOD QUALITY BUSINESSES IN, YOU DON'T NEED A CANNABIS BUSINESS TO COME IN HERE AT ALL. YOU GO TO LA CITY WHO I WORK FOR, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF CANNABIS DISPENSARIES IN LA CITY, AND THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY, FOR THE MOST PART, I KNOW. LAMIDA HAS THEM. IF SOMEBODY WANTS THE PRODUCT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT HERE, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IS JUST, BY THE WAY. IF A BUSINESS HAS A LOAN FROM A BANK, [01:15:03] THEY CANNOT HAVE A BUSINESS IN THAT BUILDING BECAUSE THE BANKS WILL NOT ALLOW IT. THEY WON'T KEEP THE LOAN ACTIVE. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. THIS IS ANDY PORCH OF THE ORIGINAL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU HOW NICE YOU ARE BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE SHOT DOWN IN THE CITY OF TORRANCE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY FORGOT THAT YOU GUYS GOING TO SELL POLE. THAT'S ALREADY DECIDED. THIS AGENDA IS ABOUT TO HAVE THE DISPENSARY. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE I'M HERE TO HELP. IF YOU HAVE FAILING BUSINESSES LIKE THE GALLERIA AND STUFF WITH BIG PARKING LOTS, SET UP A POLE, A MEETING PLACE FROM HERE, SHUTTLE TO THE DISPENSARY. THAT WAY, YOU CAN SET UP YOUR DISPENSARY ANY PLACE, THE ONLY RULE, YOU GET ON THE SHUTTLE, YOU GO TO THE DISPENSARY, YOU GO IN THE DISPENSARY STRAIGHT, NO HANGING AROUND, NO SMOKING AROUND, AND HOP ON THE BUS BACK AND THEN YOU DISAPPEAR. THIS WAY, PEOPLE WOULDN'T COMPLAIN, PEOPLE HANGING OUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS AND THAT. SO THIS WOULD BE A CLEAN BUSINESS BECAUSE LOTS OF BUSINESSES IS FAILING, , YOU SEE THE EMPTY PARKING LOTS LIKE I GO TO DELAMO, I WENT TO DELAMO TODAY. IT'S A DISASTER. YOU COULD SET UP A PARKING AREA, PICK UP, SHUTTLE, EVERYBODY GO THERE TO YOUR DISPENSARY. YOU WOULD MAKE THE BIG MONEY. A GOOD LOCATION, AS I TOLD LAST TIME, NEXT TO FOOD, ANY FOOD, TACO BEAR, MCDONALDS, ANY RESTAURANT. PEOPLE WOULD OPEN RESTAURANTS NEXT TO THE DISPENSARY BECAUSE PEOPLE SMOKE IT AND THEN THEY HUNGRY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S LIKE RACKING TWO FLIES WITH ONE SLAP. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I JUST WANT TO HELP YOU BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO SELL OR NOT MARIJUANA HERE. IT'S LIKE WHERE? THIS WAY, YOU CAN PICK UP CUSTOMERS ANY PLACE. THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING, HUNDREDS OF CAR, HUNDREDS OF CUSTOMERS. THEY CAN PUT THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL, AS SHE SAID BEST LOOKING DISPENSARY, AND IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION. THE ONLY HARD PART IS COMPETE WITH THE ILLEGAL SELLERS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE I HEARD THAT PEOPLE SELLING MARIJUANA WITHOUT LICENSE OR OTHER STUFF, BUT I JUST HEARD IT BECAUSE THANK GOD, I'M NOT ADDICTED TO IT. PEOPLE SAY THAT ADDICTED, I WAS ADDICTED TO NICOTINE. IF YOU WANT TO CONTROL SOMETHING, CONTROL NICOTINE BECAUSE IT TOOK ME YEARS TO QUIT NICOTINE. IT'S HIGHLY ADDICTIVE. THEY TOLD ME IT'S HARDER TO QUIT NICOTINE THAN COCAINE. >> THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU. >> JON ERVINE DISTRICT 1, GUESS IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. WE'VE BEEN GOING AT THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS AND IT KEEPS ON GOING. THE TWO THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THE HOMELESS, IN ORDER TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE HOMELESS IN TOWN, WE HAD TO HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, THAT WE COULD TAKE THEM THERE, OTHERWISE, WE COULD NOT TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET. I THINK THAT HAVING VERY HIGHLY REGULATED DISPENSARIES IS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. AND AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE 25 YEARS OF ONLINE CHILD PROTECTION TECHNOLOGY EXPERIENCE. I DO KNOW WHAT THAT TAKES, AND IT WOULD GIVE US THE PLACE A CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET RID OF SOME OF THAT BLACK MARKET TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ADDRESS IS, NOW, WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT, WHY DOESN'T BUSINESS COME TO REDONDO? OUR BUSINESS IS DOWN, PEOPLE AREN'T COMING IN. WHEN YOU KEEP ON MOVING THE CHEESE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME FOR HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THIS BUFFER MAP? COMPANIES HAVE GONE AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT PROPERTIES IN THE BUFFER MAP. SOME OF THEM HAVE DONE LEASES. SOME OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SOME OF THEM HAVE BOUGHT BUILDINGS OR NOT, BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY OUR ORDINANCE BY THE BUFFER MAP, THEY HAVE MADE DECISIONS. THEY HAVE MADE FINANCIAL DECISIONS. YOU'VE REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE PROPERTY BEFORE THEY APPLY. [01:20:03] THEN NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, I THINK IT'S BEEN A YEAR OR MORE THAT WE'VE HAD THIS BUFFER MAP, YOU'RE CHANGING IT UP. IF WE'RE DOING THIS TO THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE CAN DO IT TO ANY OTHER INDUSTRY? ARE BUSINESSES GOING TO WANT TO COME TO REDONDO WHEN THEY KNOW WE CHANGE THE MIND, WE MOVE THE CHEESE, AND SO IT MAKES REDONDO A COMMUNITY WHERE BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO COME BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRUE TO OUR WORD AND WE DON'T NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH. REALLY CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? COME ON. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. IN THE EARLY 60S. [OVERLAPPING]. >> MAY YOU START BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF, SIR? >> I'M SORRY. DC KERR, DISTRICT 5. IN THE EARLY 60S, AS A YOUNG CHILD, I WATCHED AKITA KRUSHEV, POUND HIS FIST ON A TABLE AND SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY AMERICA, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DESTROY IT FROM WITHIN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. THIS COUNTRY FACES MAJOR CHALLENGES ON EVERY FRONT, OVER 100,000 PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM FENTANYL, CHILDREN, YOUNG ADULTS, SENIORS. YOU'RE ADDING ONE MORE STRAW TO THE CAMEL'S BACK BY ALLOWING COMMERCIAL CANNABIS STORES FOR TAX DOLLARS, 30 PIECES OF SILVER. NO. IT ISN'T WORTH IT. THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE IN THIS CITY. THE GREATEST ASSET EVERYONE HAS IN THIS ROOM IN THIS CITY. IT'S NOT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE IN THE BANK. IT'S HOW HEALTHY THEY ARE. GOOD HEALTH IS WEALTH. IT ALLOWS YOU TO STAY ACTIVE, BE ACTIVE, TO SUPPORT YOUR FAMILIES, RAISE YOUR CHILDREN. THAT'S THE GREATEST ASSET THIS CITY HAS, AND WE'RE GOING TO KICK THAT AWAY AND DOWN FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MAN WHO TOOK THAT 30 PIECES OF SILVER DIDN'T TURN OUT VERY WELL. CHILDREN FACE HUGE CHALLENGES, NOT ONLY FROM SOCIAL MEDIA, FROM THE DARES THAT THEY'RE GIVEN ON TIKTOK AND THEIR FRIENDS AND AS ADULTS IN THIS ROOM AND LIVING IN A BLUE ZONE DISTRICT. WE SHOULDN'T BE ADDING TO THAT. THAT'S REALLY PUTTING A HEAVY BURDEN ON THEM. HOW TEMPTED ARE WE AS ADULTS, BURGER CHEETOS ON THE WAY HOME, SOME FRENCH FRIES. WE CAN PICK UP SNACKS VERY EASILY. YOUNG ADULTS AND CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SEE THAT SAME THING WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE GOING INTO CANNABIS STORES. AND THEIR OLDER FRIENDS. I'M HERE. YOU CAN HAVE SOME HERE. COME ON INTO MY BEDROOM. YOU'RE OPENING A DOOR THAT SHOULDN'T BE OPENED, NOT FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER. I REALLY SERIOUSLY ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER IS IT WORTH THE 30 PIECES OF SILVER THAT THIS CITY IS GOING TO GAIN? I KNOW OF OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN RAISE REVENUE UNDER THE GUISE OF TAX. I KNOW THAT ANY MONEY GAINED, ALL OF THAT MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT TO TELL YOUNG ADULTS, DON'T SMOKE MARIJUANA. THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR OTHER THINGS. WHAT BROUGHT ME DOWN HERE WAS THAT STATEMENT THAT WE CAN USE THE FUNDS TO TELL KIDS TO STAY AWAY FROM MARIJUANA. WHY EVEN GO THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER? IT'S NOT WORTH IT, GUYS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JIMENA CABRERA. I'M FROM DISTRICT 3, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE DISPENSERS IN REDONDO BEACH. IN 2016, PROP 64 DECRIMINALIZED THE USE OF MARIJUANA FOR ADULTS. IN SEPTEMBER 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT REPEAL REDONDO'S BAN ON COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA AND ALLOWS UP TO TWO RETAIL CANNABIS STORES IN REDONDO BEACH. IN OCTOBER 2022, JUST ONE MONTH LATER, MEASURE E WAS DEFEATED. MEASURE E HAD TWO MAIN POINTS. THE FIRST ONE BEING, IT WOULD ALLOW UP TO THREE MARIJUANA RETAILERS IN REDONDO BEACH. THE SECOND POINT MEASURE E TRIED TO MATURE IT WANTED. IT WAS TO REPEAL THE CITY'S BAN ON COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA. [01:25:06] THIS IS WHERE MY PROBLEM STARTS. THE PEOPLE OF REDONDO BEACH OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED AGAINST REPEALING THE BAN ON COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA, BUT YOU ALREADY DID IT ONE MONTH BEFORE. WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER THAT? AFTER KNOWING THAT WE SUPPORTED THAT WE SUPPORTED THE VAN ON COMMERCIAL CANNABIS. UNFORTUNATELY, NOTHING. NOW, YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL THIS ORDINANCE AS A STEP FORWARD IN REGULATING CANNABIS. I URGE YOU TO STOP ALL ORDINANCE ACTIVITY AND RESPECT THE PEOPLE'S WISHES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? >> YES. HURST JANE. THERE YOU GO. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU. MY NAME IS HURST JANE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW SIMPLE POINTS. FIRST, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT YOUTH CANNABIS USE. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI SAID IT WELL AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK WHEN HE ASKED THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHETHER ANY OF THEM WOULD HAVE ANY CHALLENGE PROCURING CANNABIS WITH 51 $100, AND THEY ALL ALMOST UNIVERSALLY SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO. THAT'S THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN NOW. BUT DATA SHOWS CONSISTENTLY OVER THE PAST DECADE THAT STATES AND CITIES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO LICENSED CANNABIS DISPENSARIES ACTUALLY SEE DECREASED YOUTH CANNABIS USE BECAUSE THOSE LICENSED DISPENSARIES, WHICH YOUNG PEOPLE CAN'T ACCESS DISPLACED THE DRUG DEALERS WHO DON'T ID. AND I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE CANNABIS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A TAXED AND LEGAL AND REGULATED SYSTEM CAN DISCOURAGE YOUTH CANNABIS USE. ALSO NOTE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT CANNABIS BEING A GATEWAY DRUG I'LL NOTE AGAIN THAT CANNABIS IS OFTEN A GATEWAY DRUG WHEN IT'S IN THE HAND OF ILLICIT DRUG DEALERS WHO WANT YOUTH AND OTHER PEOPLE TO PURCHASE HARDER DRUGS. AGAIN, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE CANNABIS, DATA IS NOW INCREASINGLY CLEAR, AND I WOULD JUST POINT YOU TO THE MOST RECENT REPORT IN THE JOURNAL PEDIATRIC REPORTS THAT HIGHLIGHTS THIS FACT. I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT FENTANYL. AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE OPIOID AND THE ENTANL EPIDEMIC THAT'S PLAGUING THIS COUNTRY IS AWFUL. BUT AGAIN, THE DATA HERE IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT STATES AND CITIES THAT LEGALIZE CANNABIS, IN FACT, SEE DECREASED OPIATE OVERDOSES AND DECREASE PRESCRIPTION USE BECAUSE CANNABIS IS A HEALTHIER ALTERNATIVE. EVEN IF YOU YOURSELF DO NOT CONSUME CANNABIS OR LIKE CANNABIS, NOW THE DATA INDICATES THAT THIS CAN BE AN EXIT DRUG, NOT A GATEWAY DRUG. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. MAYBE A COUPLE MORE CONCLUDING COMMENTS, AS WAS SAID BY A NUMBER OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS TODAY, INCLUDING MY COLLEAGUE, COURTNEY CARON. SOME OF THE MOST ADEPT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN THE STATE, THE EMBARKS, THE ARTISTRIES, THE HAVENS, THE SWEET FLOWERS. THESE ARE THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO SET UP IN REDONDO BEACH, AND THEY OFFER A VERY PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE FOR RETAIL CANNABIS. AGAIN, ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIKE CANNABIS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE REALLY HEALTHY RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT CAN ADD TO THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF A CITY THAT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE. DATA INDICATES AGAIN THAT THESE LEGAL BUSINESSES CAN DO THINGS LIKE INCREASE HOME VALUES, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY ARE EFFECTIVE RETAIL BUSINESSES. FINALLY, ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT TO THE EFFECT THAT MAIL ORDER CANNABIS CAN BE SENT IN THIS STATE OR IN THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS, IN FACT, NOT TRUE. ONLY ILLICIT CANNABIS CAN BE SENT THROUGH THE MAIL. THE NOTION THAT CANNABIS CAN BE LEGALLY SOLD THROUGH THE MAIL IS ACTUALLY NOT TRUE, WHICH IS WHY A LICENSED STORE WHERE CONSUMERS CAN WALK IN AND GET EDUCATED ABOUT THE HEALTH PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IS THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE CANNABIS USE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> YES. THE NEXT PERSON IS TIMOTHY DODD. >> GOOD EVENING, BOARD AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TIM DODD. I'M THE CEO AND CO FOUNDER OF SWEET FLOWER. TONIGHT IS, I THINK THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING ON CANNABIS IN TWO YEARS THAT I'VE MISSED. I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE TO TAKE MY YOUNGEST SON, MATTHEW, WHO'S 10-YEARS-OLD, TO HIS BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT THIS EVENING. SO WITH THAT SAID, I JUST DID WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED BY HIRSCH AND COURTNEY IN JOAN ON THIS TOPIC. THIS TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT F CANNABIS IS IN REDONDO BEACH AT TOWN. I'VE BEEN TO AND VISITED AND BOUGHT PRODUCT FROM EVERY ONE OF YOUR SMOKE SHOPS, BAR 1, AND THEY'RE ALL SELLING A DERIVED THC AT 10-20 OR 30 TIMES THE CONCENTRATION LEVEL, [01:30:09] UNTESTED PRODUCT WITH THC THAT A A LICENSED CANNABIS DISPENSANRY CAN SELL. SECOND, I DO BELIEVE THIS CONCENTRATION, WELL, REMOVING ARTESIA, REMOVING AVIATION DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS. IT RESULTS, AS I SAID, LAST WEEK IN AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF CONCENTRATION OF BUSINESSES, PREDOMINANTLY GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT 1, I BELIEVE AND MAYBE DISTRICT 2. YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY TAKEN OUT DISTRICT 4, AND I THINK ALSO DISTRICT 5. THERE ARE SCANNED TO VERY LITTLE REAL ESTATE OPTIONS NOW AVAILABLE. AS A COMPANY THAT HAS INVESTED IN REDONDO BEACH AND HAS OBVIOUSLY EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN SETTING UP SHOP NOW FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, PROBABLY GOING ON 18 MONTHS NOW. I AM CONCERNED FOR OUR BUSINESS, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR THE BUSINESSES OF OTHERS THAT WOULD EXPRESS INTEREST IN BEING IN REDONDO BEACH AS WELL. WE NEED CERTAINTY AND CLARITY ON THESE RULES. ARTESIA, AVIATION, WERE ALL EXPRESSED IN THE BUFFER MAPS AND IN THE ORDINANCE FROM THE INITIATION OF THE ORDINANCE PROCESS, MANY, YEARS AGO, AS JOAN RIVERS IS WELL STATED NOW. CERTAINTY IS, I THINK, NOW A REAL ISSUE FOR US. BUT BEYOND THAT, I THINK THE PROMISE OF CANNABIS IN A HIGHLY REGULATED RETAIL ENVIRONMENT IS TO HAVE A TWO DISPENSARY IN A TOWN LIKE THIS IS TO CREATE A VIABLE BUSINESS, ONE THAT IS NOT SATURATED, ONE THAT IS IN A VIABLE RETAIL CORRIDOR. I THINK THE MAP AS IT'S NOW SHAPING UP, AND I EXPRESSED MY VIEW LAST WEEK THAT THIS WAS KIND OF A CASUAL OR QUICK CHANGE WITH QUITE SUBSTANTIVE CONSEQUENCES. THE WAY THIS IS SHAPING UP, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE BUSINESSES AND TO THE DETRIMENT OF REDONDO BEACH AND HOLE. I HAVE INVITED, I'VE BEEN ON NORTH DINA FACEBOOK PAGE. WE'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE FROM REDONDO BEACH COME TO OUR STORE IN COLA CITY, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF THE PTA, MEMBERS OF THE CLERGY. MEMBERS OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT. >> I'M SORRY YOUR TIME IS UP. >> NEXT TIME I WILL BE FAST. THANK YOU. >> NEXT PERSON IS SUSAN RUBIN. >> HI, THERE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT. I AM A DISTRICT 5 RESIDENT, AND I ALSO HAVE PUT MY COMMENT IN THE COMMENTS, AND I'M THE MOTHER OF A BOY WITH AUTISM. HE IS QUICKLY GROWING UP, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RETAIL CANNABIS ON ARTESIA, AND I'M HAPPY ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN REDONDO AS IT IS BEING A FAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITY. I FEEL THAT BRINGING RETAIL CANNABIS TO REDONDO IS A BIG MISTAKE. I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS A STORY ABOUT A FRIEND AND HER SON. THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA ANYMORE. HE ALSO HAD AUTISM, AND HE WAS LIVING IN LONG BEACH A LONG TIME AGO. HE SOMEHOW GOT MIXED UP WITH THE WRONG KIDS AND, BEING DISABLED, HE THOUGHT HE OWED SOMEBODY 40 BUCKS. SOMEHOW, THIS KID ENDED UP IN THE OCEAN, AND WASN'T A GOOD SWIMMER. WE EVERYBODY WAS WHERE IS HE, WEEKS WENT BY. THEY HOPED HE WAS JUST LOST. NO, HE WAS FOUND SOMEWHERE UP THE COAST. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE. MAYBE SANTA MONICA OR VENTURA, IN THE OCEAN. HIS FATHER HAD TO GO ID THE BODY. I WENT TO HIS FUNERAL AND I CRIED SO HARD. I THINK I CRIED HARDER THAN ANYBODY IN THE ROOM BECAUSE I JUST SAID TO MYSELF, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY SON. THAT COULD BE MY SON. I DON'T WANT THAT EVER TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY HERE IN REDONDO. I JUST THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR US. IF WE PUT IT, I'M GLAD TO SO ARTESIA, BUT IF WE PUT IT CLOSE TO THE OCEAN, WE'RE CULPABLE IN A WAY BECAUSE IT IS A HOP SKIP AND A JUMP TO THE OCEAN. WE HAVE STRONG RIP TIDES HERE IN REDONDO. WE HAVE STRONG RIP TIDES ALONG THE COAST. WE'RE GOING TO TAX OUR LIFEGUARDS TRYING TO SEE WHO WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO GO SWIMMING AFTER THEY HIT THEIR CANNABIS. SO I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA. I DO ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT IF THEY'RE RIDING AROUND IN THEIR CARS AND THEY'RE PICKING UP CANNABIS, [01:35:05] THEY'RE GOING TO END UP BY THE BEACH. I DISAGREE WITH A PERSON WHO IS SAYING THAT, THEY GET IT DISPENSED, THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE TO THE BEACH. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU GET FOOD DELIVERED? WHEN YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AT HOME EATING YOUR FOOD? DO YOU GET UP AND TAKE IT TO THE BEACH AND EAT IT ON THE BEACH? NO. YOU SIT IN YOUR LIVING ROOM AND YOU EAT IT THERE. ANYWAYS, QUICKLY, I'M TRYING TO BE NICE, BUT WE'RE NOT MOVING THE CHEESE, WE'RE MOVING THE WEED. A CHEESE SHOP WOULD BE WELCOME. SO WOULD A ROLLER. [LAUGHTER] OR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL MAKE. >> YOUR TIME'S UP. >> NEXT PERSON IS MARCI GUILLERMO. >> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES WE CAN HEAR YOU, MARCI. >> YES. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS MARCI GUILLERMO, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 1 FOR OVER 20 YEARS. MY FAMILY AND I DO NOT SUPPORT RETAIL CANNABIS STORES ANYWHERE IN OUR CITY. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT A DELIVERY OPTION MODEL IS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT AND DOES NOT NORMALIZE ITS USE AMONG OUR YOUTH. STORE FRONTS ELSEWHERE ARE EASILY AVAILABLE, CLOSE ENOUGH TO ALLOW RESIDENTS WHO WISH TO BUY IN PERSON TO DO SO WITH MINIMAL EFFORT. I COMPLETELY SECOND ALL THE SPEAKERS AGAINST RETAIL DISPENSARIES. I DISAGREE WITH THE SPEAKERS WHO WERE IN FAVOR. BUT I MUST GIVE SOME RECOGNITION TO THE SPEAKER WHO RAISED SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR ORDINANCES, SOMETHING IS WRONG TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE REMOVED SOME BLOCKS OF STREETS FROM WHAT IT WAS INITIALLY AGREED. KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE CITIES OF MANHATTAN BEACH, TORRANCE AND PALACE BIRDS DO NOT ALLOW RETAIL CANNABIS STORES. WHY SHOULD DONE BE DIFFERENT? PARTICULARLY, GIVEN THE CURRENT CANNABIS ENVIRONMENT IN CALIFORNIA. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE STATED CANNABIS IS BEING DELIVERED TO REDONDO BEACH AND UNCONTROLLABLE AMOUNTS, PLEASE REPORT THAT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ARE YOU REFERRING TO ILLEGAL SALES OR DO YOU MEAN LEGALLY OPERATING DELIVERY SERVICES? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IT? ALLOW RETAIL CANNABIS STORE TO REGULATE LEGAL SALES, MISTAKENLY ASSUMES THAT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES WILL EFFECTIVELY CONTROL THE ILLEGAL MARKET, PARTICULARLY AMONG THE YOUTH. THE ASSUMPTION IS FLAW FOR SEVERAL REASONS? ALCOHOL AS PRECEDENTS. WE HAVE SEVERAL LIQUOR STORES AND THEY'RE HEAVILY REGULATED. BUT STILL MINORS CAN ACCESS THAT, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, AND THAT GOES FOR MISSES IRVINE TO THAT EFFECT. REGULATION VERSUS RESTRICTION. EFFECTIVE REGULATION REQUIRES STRONG ENFORCEMENT MEASURES. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING. IT HASN'T HAD ONE FOR YEARS, DOESN'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT TODAY? YOUTH PROTECTION IS ABOUT POLICY, NOT JUST ABOUT AVAILABILITY. WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE YOUTH. WE DON'T HAVE IT NOW. SO PLEASE KEEP THE RESIDENTS IN MIND MORE SO THAN THE VENDORS WHO ARE TRYING TO TELL YOU, EVERYTHING IS ROSY, IT WILL BE THE GREATEST BUSINESS EVER. >> MARCI YOUR TIME'S UP. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE E-COMMENTS. WE HAVE 68, FIVE SUPPORT, 61 OPPOSED, ZERO NEUTRAL, AND THE REST OF [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU. IS YOUR HAND STILL UP? >> YEAH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> CAN YOU LIGHT UP 3A, PLEASE, MADAM CLERK? FOR THE FOLKS WHO HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME CANNABIS IN HERE FOR 20 PIECES OF SILVER. THIS IS THE LOCATION ON AVIATION BOULEVARD WHERE THERE WAS PREVIOUS ENFORCEMENT ACTION TO SHUT DOWN UNLAWFUL CANNABIS DISPENSARY THAT WREAKED HAVOC ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. THAT WENT SO FAR, WENT TO TRIAL. THAT FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN GRANT TESTIFIED AT THE TRIAL. [01:40:02] HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THAT COST THE CITY? AT LEAST $100,000. WE HAD CHIEF HOFFMAN SPEAK TO US LAST WEEK ABOUT THAT VERY FACT. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. NOW, LET'S JUST MOVE UP THE STREET A LITTLE BIT. SEE HOW I CAN DO THAT. ANOTHER ONE. ON THE SAME STRETCH. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THAT COST THE CITY? LET'S GO ELSEWHERE IN THE DISTRICT. THERE COULDN'T BE ANOTHER UNLAWFUL DISPENSARY IN DISTRICT 4. RIGHT THERE ON ARTESIA AND FELINE RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE I LIVE. I WOULD DRIVE BY IT. KNOW THERE'S AN UNLAWFUL DISPENSARY THERE. THEY HAD AN ARMED GUARD THERE, AND IT TOOK US AGES TO SHUT IT DOWN. HOW MUCH DID IT COST THE CITY TO SHUT IT DOWN? DOWN THE STREET, ONE MORE UNLAWFUL DISPENSARY. WE ARE BLEEDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN UNLAWFUL CANNABIS IN REDONDO, AND WE'RE NOT WINNING. THE KIDS CAN STILL GET IT. THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING, EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. THIS IS THE BLUE FOLDER ORDINANCE THAT WE RECEIVED. I WOULD AMEND IT TO INCLUDE NO RETAILER SHALL BE ESTABLISHED OR LOCATED ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, WEST OF INGLEWOOD AVENUE OR ON AVIATION BOULEVARD SOUTH OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD. THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO TARGET THIS AREA HERE. TO MS. [INAUDIBLE] POINT, I'LL SAY THAT THIS IS CREATING THE RULES BY WHICH WE CAN ALL LIVE BY. TO MR. DODD'S POINT, THERE ARE LOCATIONS HERE IN DISTRICT 4, WHERE CANNABIS IS ALLOWED. THERE'S A LOCATION IN DISTRICT 5 WHERE CANNABIS IS ALLOWED, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT NOBODY OFFERS TO GET US A CANNABIS LOCATION IN DISTRICT 4 OR 5 OR 90278, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THE LAW AND MAYBE OPEN IT UP, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, THESE ARE THE RULES THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING, I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL ESTABLISH. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT, BY TITLE ONLY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 3287-25, 3288-25, 3289-25 AS AMENDED. >> SECOND. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DISCUSSING [INAUDIBLE]. >> I DON'T, UNLESS I CARE OTHERWISE. WE CAN REINTRODUCE IT TONIGHT WITH THAT AMENDMENT, BUT WE CAN'T ADOPT IT WITH THAT AMENDMENT, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> YES. YOU CAN INTRODUCE IT TONIGHT AND MR. WEBB'S GOING TO CHIME IN. >> THAT'S YOUR MOTION? >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. AFTER LAST MEETING, WE DID MAKE THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE ZONING MAP, AND IT GIVES ME PAUSE IN A WAY THAT WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM MORE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND MAKING IT MORE SUBJECTIVE, BECOMING MORE ADVOCATES FOR OUR OWN SPACES, AND I THINK IT CAN BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO GO ALONG WITH THIS IN THAT LIGHT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ORDINANCE. WE'RE DISCUSSING THE BUFFER MAP OF WHERE THIS COULD BE. WE ARE NOT OPENING THIS UP FOR APPLICATIONS TONIGHT. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT FOR EVERYONE TONIGHT. WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON WHERE OUR KIDS HANG OUT, I THINK THAT IS THE BEST INTENTION OF ALL OF US HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE SAFEST WAY TO DO THIS SHOULD IT HAPPEN IN THE CITY, BUT MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE HANGING OUT IN THE FUTURE. THEY ARE CURRENTLY ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD IN SWARMS. YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCILMAN BEHRENDT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEXT COOL HANGOUT IS GOING TO BE. MY WORRY IN DOING THIS IN A MORE SUBJECTIVE WAY IS THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE CHASING OUR TAIL. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. [01:45:02] >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC FOR THOSE COMMENTS, BECAUSE I'M HEARING WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO SAY. EVERYONE THAT HAS FOLLOWED ME FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, IT'S BEEN ABOUT LISTENING. WE JUST SIGNED A BIG LICENSE CONTRACT LEASE WITH TERMS. WE LISTENED, WE REACTED, WE LEARNED, AND WE IMPLEMENTED. FROM DAY 1 ON THIS, WHEN I PASSED THE MORATORIUM, FOR ME, IT'S BEEN ABOUT RESPONSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION AND RESPONSIBLE PATH FORWARD. ONE THING WE'VE HEARD ALL ALONG IS THE LEGAL LIABILITY AND IT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT I'M HEARING A LOT OF NEW VOICES HERE WITH INFORMATION THAT IS NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'VE TALKED ABOUT CANNABIS IN MY COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR YEARS NOW, YEARS, AND IT'S DEEPLY CONCERNING TO ME TO HEAR SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WOULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR INPUT AND HAVE THEM PROVIDE INPUT AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS HEARD PROPERLY AND WE HAVE A THOROUGH PROCESS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HEARD AND THE PUBLIC HAS HEARD ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT YOUR MOTION? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY REVIEWED THE BUFFER MAP? >> THE BUFFER MAP HAS NOW CHANGED. IT'S NOW CHANGING A SECOND TIME AND THE INPUT ON THAT AND FROM WHAT THE PEOPLE HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT. IN FACT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT SOME MISINFORMATION ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, ALL OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD IS IN DISTRICT 4. ANY PORTION THAT'S IN DISTRICT 5 IS BUFFERED OUT. >> THAT'S NOT RIGHT. DISTRICT 5 HAS THE MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. >> THAT'S BUFFERED OUT. >> NOT SOUTH OF THE FREEWAY. >> ARTESIA BOULEVARD, I SAID. >> ARTESIA BOULEVARD. >> THOSE 13 PROPERTIES PLUS NOW THE AVIATION PROPERTIES CHANGES THE GAME DRAMATICALLY. IN WEIGHING ALL OF THIS, LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK, I'LL BE A NO VOTE ON COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI'S MOTION. I'D RATHER GET FURTHER PUBLIC INPUT. I'M HEARING, I'M LISTENING WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY, IT'S WHAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS, POTENTIAL LICENSE HOLDERS, AND THE COMMUNITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, EVERYONE. LISTENING AND LEARNING AND NOW IMPLEMENTING THOSE THINGS. >> DO YOU WANT MORE SPACE OPENED UP OR LESS? >> NO, I WANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO OPINE ON THE CHANGES TO BOTH ARTESIA AND AVIATION AT AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. >> JUST ON THOSE TWO TOPICS. >> YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE CHANGED. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU PUT OUT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ANYONE CARE TO SECOND IT? >> I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY IT A LITTLE BIT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ISN'T GOING TO COME BACK TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND SAY, WELL, WE SHOULD OPEN UP ARTESIA AGAIN, AND THEN HERE WE ARE BACK AGAIN AND THEN TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS BACK TO A STALEMATE AMONG THE COUNCIL AND IGNORING THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THIS IS IN. I THINK THEY WEIGHED IN. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF BRINGING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO SAY OKAY, OR NO, LET'S OPEN IT BACK UP TO ARTESIA. I THINK A LOT OF US, THE LAST TIME WE MET, SAID, THAT'S FINE. NO ARTESIA. THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS NO AVIATION. TO ME, THAT'S WHAT'S CHANGED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT INPUT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THEM. THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. >> WELL, IF THERE'S NO SECOND ON MY MOTION, THEN THAT WOULD FAIL, AND I WOULD SAY TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT TO VOTE NO ON THE CURRENT MOTION IN PLACE, YOU AND I VOTE SEPARATELY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BOTH ACTIVE ON THIS ITEM, COULD GO TO MAYOR LIGHT AND HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE ABOUT THE WORDS HE HAD TO SAY AND GET THIS VETOED AND DO THIS PROPERLY. [01:50:03] THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THIS THEN. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COUNCIL? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO INCREASE THE EXCLUSION ZONE TO INCLUDE AVIATION SOUTH OF ARTESIA, AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT. I WILL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR? >> AYE. >> ALL AGAINST? >> NO. >> IT'S A THREE, TWO. I'M SORRY? >> THAT WAS A NO, JUST TO BE CLEAR. >> YOU ARE A NO. >> YES. >> IT'S THREE AGAINST. RIGHT NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS. WE'RE STUCK, SO THIS GOES NOWHERE. >> BRING A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, I GUESS. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM? >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM. ALL FOR? >> AYE. >> WHO WANTS FIRST DIBS? [LAUGHTER] YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MEANT THAT. >> NO, BUT I'LL MAYBE JUST SAY, LOOK, WE CAN TAKE OFF THE AVIATION OR ARTESIA, BUT IF STAFF BRINGS US A FINALIST WHO IS ON AVIATION, I'M DEAD SET AGAINST IT. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR IT. I'LL TRY TO GET THE MAYOR TO VETO IT. IT'S JUST A BAD SPOT FOR IT FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDPOINT, A SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S GOING TO OVERFLOW INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I GET THE POINTS ABOUT ARTESIA BOULEVARD BEING KIDS HANGOUTS, WITH THAT SAID WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ACTUALLY, LET ME PULL IT UP, ONLINE GOOGLE MAPS. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN TAKE THE FLOOR. >> MAY I SPEAK FOR A MOMENT. I AM CONCERNED, COUNCILMAN OBAGI, BECAUSE REMEMBER, IF IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL, IT'S ONLY ON APPEAL. YOU HAVE TO UPHOLD THE APPLICATION AS EVALUATED BY THE STANDARDS YOU SET OUT, NOT JUST REMOVE IT. ONE THING YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, AND YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, IS YOU HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE ABOUT NOT ALLOWING, I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS, MAYBE THREE, MAYBE MS. HOUSE, I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, CAN IDENTIFY IT, BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT AT A PLACE WITHIN SUCH A DISTANCE WHERE THERE'S BEEN ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE PAST THREE OR FIVE YEARS. YOU PERHAPS COULD EXTEND THAT. YOU COULD SAY, NOT WITHIN THE PAST DECADE BECAUSE THAT'S OBJECTIVE STANDARD WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE IMPACT OF ILLEGAL CANNABIS DISPENSARIES. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU COULD TRY AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE. >> I HAVE A POINT FOR CLARIFICATION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING WAS ANYWHERE EAST OF INGLEWOOD ON ARTESIA WAS AN ISSUE IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY HAD A BANK LOAN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE CONCERN THAT THESE BIG INSTITUTIONAL MALLS WOULD NOT ALLOW A CANNABIS RETAILER. >> IT WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER. >> I WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER GOT A LOAN FROM THE BANK IS NOT ALLOW THAT. >> IT WASN'T THE ACTUAL RETAILER ITSELF HAVING LOANS. IT WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. >> MS. CITY ATTORNEY, THE LANGUAGE AS IT STANDS IN THE ORDINANCE IS JUST THAT THE SITE MAY OPERATE FROM A LOCATION WHERE ILLEGAL CANNABIS RELATED OR DRUG RELATED ACTIVITY HAS OCCURRED FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS. IT DOESN'T AFFECT SURROUNDING SITES. WE COULD END UP WITH A CANNABIS STORE NEXT DOOR ON AVIATION TO THE ONES THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> PRE-CONFINED SITE. >> CITY ATTORNEY WEBB, DO YOU KNOW IF WE JUST [OVERLAPPING] >> NO. >> IT DOESN'T SAY SITE. >> IT SAYS A LOCATION. >> THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WITHIN SO MANY FEET, WHATEVER DISTANCE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY CLEANER JUST TO TRY AND ADDRESS IT WITH THE AMENDMENT YOU PROPOSED. >> AS A COMPROMISE, I WOULD BE WILLING TO, I'M SORRY, I HATE TO DO THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, [01:55:01] BUT GIVE UP ARTESIA AND BLOCK OFF AVIATION. WE HAD ONE BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE THAT BEFORE IT BEING UNLAWFUL, WAS FINE, HAD ARMED SECURITY GUARD OUTSIDE, ADEQUATE PARKING, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. LET ME JUST SHOW EVERYBODY WHAT A STORE FRONT LOOKS LIKE IN PALM DESERT. IF YOU COULD SHOW AGAIN 3A, PLEASE. >> THIS IS THE LEAF IN PALM DESERT, BUT LET ME GET A STREET VIEW. THAT'S NOT. CAN'T REALLY TELL IT'S A CANNABIS SHOP. IF YOU ZOOM IN TO THE SITE. ACTUALLY, WITHIN THESE GLASS WINDOWS, LET ME SEE HOW YOU CAN PULL IT UP. THERE ARE DOUBLE DOORS, SOLID DOORS. IT'S NOT LIKE A PERSON CAN EVEN WALK UP TO THE WINDOW AND LOOK IN. THERE'S NO PRODUCT THAT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW WE'VE MODELED OUR ORDINANCE SO THAT THEY CAN'T ADVERTISE THAT THEY ARE CARING, HERE WE GO. I WALKED BY THIS PLACE, WE WALKED PAST IT, WAS INTERESTED IN IT, HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS A CANNABIS SHOP. >> YOU MADE A MOTION TO EXCLUDE? >> I AM ARTICULATING THAT I DID MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO SEE COMPROMISE WE CAN READ. >> MAKE A MOTION WE'RE DEAD ON THIS. >> MY POINTS WERE THAT I THINK WHEN WE'RE MOVING, I THINK WE'VE CREATED AN ORDINANCE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND OUR APPLICATION THAT IS MEANT TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OBJECTIVELY PICK OUT OF THE BUFFER MAP. THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO OR I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THERE WHERE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WE TOOK OUT ARTESIA, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT AVIATION. WE CAN FIND ISSUES IN ANY LOCATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE MAP. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS IN OUR ORDINANCE. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE NIT PICKING OF IT. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MAP. THE COUNCILS BEFORE ME HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS MAP. >> WHAT'S YOUR PROPOSAL? >> MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE BUFFER MAP, AS IT WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE ZIP CODE THAT WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, ONE IN 90277, ONE IN 90278, WITH 1,000 FOOT BUFFER, AND MAKE IT CLEAN. WE ARE RELYING ON THAT STRONG ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE SPENT SO LONG WORKING ON. THAT IS MY MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. I WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, THERE'S ALREADY AN ORDINANCE ON HERE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW DISTANTLY, [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS DEFINING IT AND IMPROVING IT. >> WE CAN'T LEAVE IT AS IT IS. >> SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN IT. IF WE VOTE ON NOTHING, WE GO BACK TO AN OLD ORDINANCE THAT ISN'T EXECUTED. >> WE GO BACK TO THE OLD ORDINANCE THAT HAS NOTHING. >> IT HAS STUFF, BUT IT'S CONFLICT. >> IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT MAYOR? >> YES. >> THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ARTESIA BOULEVARD BACK INTO PLAY AFTER EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TO AND AFTER WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO PREVIOUSLY IS UNFATHOMABLE. FOR THE REASONS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, IF THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED ON LAST WEEK. KEEPING THE ARTESIA EXCLUSION EAST OF ENGLEWOOD. KEEPING THAT IN. >> WEST OF ENGLAND? >> YEAH, WEST OF ENGLEWOOD. [02:00:01] >> EAST OF AVIATION AND WEST OF ENGLEWOOD. >> AS LONG AS THAT REMAINS. THAT'S EXCLUDED, THEN I'M GOOD WITH IT. IS THAT WHAT YOUR MOTION WAS? >> MY MOTION WAS TO GO BACK. FOR THE REASONS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES IN THE ORDINANCE. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE ORDINANCE. WE HAVEN'T OPENED THIS UP FOR RFPS. IF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT READY FOR CANNABIS RETAIL AND WE'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU TODAY. WE'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU BEFORE THEN. I WANT YOU TO COME BACK DOWN WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OPENING THIS UP FOR APPLICATIONS. THAT'S THE TIME TO TELL US. >> IF THAT'S THE INITIAL I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND ON THAT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD NOT EXCLUDE AVIATION AT THIS POINT AS A GOOD COMPROMISE. >> I AGREE TO THAT I'M TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN THE STAFF'S PACKET AS THE MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE NOW. >> GIVE ME A SECOND. APPROVAL OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCES STANDS? >> THANK YOU. MOTION THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> NO. >> CALL THE VOTE. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM? >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC? >> A LONG NIGHT. >> IT'S TENSE. >> I KNOW. COUNSELMAN BARON, I SEE YOUR POINT. I DO. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THE BOX. I'M GOING TO KNOW. >> I'M TO KNOW. >> NO. >> WE'RE BACK WHERE WE WANT TO. I CANNOT. THE RESIDENTS ON AVIATION MESSAGE ME VIA INSTAGRAM, VIA E MAIL, VIA TEXT MESSAGE, EVERY METHOD POSSIBLE. MY DISTRICT 4 RESIDENTS ARE LIKE THE COOLS CHILLS RESIDENTS. I GET ONE COMPLAINT A WEEK 2, MAYBE THINGS THAT THEY NEED ATTENTION TO, AND THEN THEY'RE REALLY SERIOUS. BUT WHEN THEY ALL JUMP OUT SAYING. THETIS ON AVIATION. >> THE MOTION FAILED. THIS IS DEAD UNLESS ONE MORE TIME, YOU GUYS WANT TO RESURRECT IT. >> ONE OF THE MOTION MAKERS HAVE TO RESURRECT. >> WELL, I APPRECIATE COUNSEL MBZI'S POINT ABOUT AVIATION, I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR THAT. THOUGH UP TO ME, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE ZERO CANNABIS IN RETAIL SHOPS IN REDONDO BEACH. COUNSELS MADE IT CLEAR THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I HEAR YOU AND FEEL YOU ABOUT AVIATION. WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR THAT NOW. I'D ASK WE DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER AND REMOVE THE BUFFER ON ARTESIA, WHICH I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING LAST TIME, AND I GAVE MY WORD. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, AND I DID. I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO THE SAME HERE TONIGHT. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO ADDRESS AVIATION AT A LATER TIME. I'LL FULLY SUPPORT THAT. AS YOU KNOW I WILL. THAT'S MY ASK AND REQUEST. YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR, AND I THINK YOUR CONSTITUENTS HERE YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT AT THIS POINT, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE GO FORWARD. >> RIGHT NOW THIS IS DEAD UNLESS SOMEBODY RESURRECTING. >> MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER YOUR OWN. >> MOTION TO RECONSIDER. >> SECOND MOTION. >> SECONDED. ALL FOUR. COULD YOU RESTATE IT MY MOTION FROM PREVIOUS, WHICH IS WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. >> RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. >> CORRECT. >> RECONSIDER IT. AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> WHAT WAS YOUR COUNSEL FOR YOU AND I? SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? THIRD, TRY. >> SERIOUSLY? >> I GET THE CONSTERNATION THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING. I'LL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> IF THAT'S ONE CONVERSATION. >> SINCE I DIDN'T GET A SECOND ORIGINALLY, I CAN STILL MAKE MY ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WAS TO SEND THIS ITEM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET THEIR INPUT ON AVIATION AND ARTESIA BOULEVARD, [02:05:02] AND COME BACK TO US WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION. >> SECOND. >> SOMEONE CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND FAM OR SOMETHING OUT. BUT WE HAVE A BACKSTOP NOW THAT GATHERS PUBLIC INPUT AND INFORMATION. MOVES FORWARD MOTION. >> I'M TRYING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND THIS. >> I'LL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE, AS I SIT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. YOU WANT TO ADD IN WHICH PROPERTY, THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCED UPON IMMEDIATELY WEST OF BOULEVARD? YOU NEED TO LIGHT UP? >> NO. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT MAYBE LIGHT UP 3A, PLEASE. IN DISCUSSION IS PERHAPS WE CAN BLOCK OUT A SMALLER PORTION OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD, IF, IN FACT, KIDS DO HANG OUT NEAR THE BUS STOP ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE KIDS HANG OUT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD BESIDES THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKE PATH. MAYBE YOU CAN RECTIFY ME. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO BLOCK OFF? >> A LOT OF ARTESIA IS BLOCKED OFF. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S. >> YOU WANT TO BLOCK THIS WHAT'S SACROSANCT TO YOU THAT YOU WANT TO BLOCK OFF? >> COUNCIL MEMBER. IS THIS THE AREA THAT YOU WANT TO ADD BACK IN? >> MAYBE HERE TO THE POINT OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. WE COULD HAVE BUFFER AROUND THE AREAS THAT WERE BLOCKED OFF. THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN A FORCED. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BART HAS THE FLOOR. OBJECT. RAISING YOUR HANDS. >> CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE WAS PREVIOUSLY PASSED ARE INTRODUCED AND VOTED UPON AS YES. LAST MEETING WAS TO EXCLUDE ALL OF ARTESIA WEST OF ENGLEWOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING IN? >> NOT ADDING IN, JUST NOT HAVING A PROHIBITION ON SOME PORTION OF IT. >> YOU WANT TO DO THAT PORTION ON THE FAR RIGHT? THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S REQUIRED. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT AND JUST LEAVE THAT. >> ARTICULATE ORDINANCE. >> PROHIBITION ON THAT OR AN ALLOWANCE. >> NO AN ALLOWANCE IT'D BE A PROHIBITION ON EVERYTHING WEST FELTON. >> WEST OF PERKINS. EXCUSE ME, EAST WEST OF PERKINS. >>> WEST OF FELTON PERKINS. >> WEST OF PERKINS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO FELTON. NO. BECAUSE THERE COULD BE OTHER PROPERTIES, SIR. >> THEY'RE IN THE BUFFER. >> THEY'RE IN EXCLUSION ZONE. >> HOW ABOUT OBJECTIVE STANDARD OF 500 FEET OR 100 FEET AROUND ANY LOCATION HAS BEEN HAD PREVIOUS ENFORCEMENTS IN THAT TAKES TAKES OUT THAT PROTECTS AVIATION AND PROTECTS MARTA. >> YOUR HAND. >> I WOULD AGREE. >> COUNCILMEMBER BARON HAS THE FLOOR. >> RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO TALK. >> MY HAND IS UP. YOU'VE POINTED OUT THERE'S THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE ON ENGLEWOOD AND AVIATION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE BACK IN, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. I'M FINE WITH THAT COMPROMISE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT'S WEST OF PERKINS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TOUCHING PERKINS RIGHT THERE. THAT SHOULD COVER THAT BATCH OF PROPERTIES AND STILL STAY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE AGREED TO LAST WEEK. >> WE CAN AGREE ON ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT UNLESS THE THREE OVER THERE ALSO AGREED TO IT. >> ARE YOU FINISHED? >> WELL, SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, THEN IF THAT'S WHAT REQUIRED. >> WHAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE GOING TO THAT WORKS FOR YOU. SURE. >> YOU CAN'T PHRASE IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT HAS TO IT HAS TO BE WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT MAKES IT EASIER. >> WHO SHOULD BE OKAY WITH WEST OF PERKINS? EXCLUDED. >> BE EXCLUDED. >> HERE IS WHAT IT IS. HERE YES ON THAT. OKAY. FINE. LET'S A MEMBER MOTIONS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE EXCLUSION ON ARTESIA TO EVERYTHING WEST OF FELTON. >> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE THREE ORDINANCES WITH THE MODIFICATION TO SUBSECTION I, WHICH ORIGINALLY READ, NO RETAILER SHALL BE ESTABLISHED OR LOCATED ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, WEST OF INGLEWOOD AVENUE. NOW WOULD READ, NO RETAILER SHALL BE ESTABLISHED OR LOCATED ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD WEST OF FELTON. >> CORRECT. >> IS IT AVENUE OR STREET. [02:10:03] >> I BELIEVE IT'S LANE. >> LANE. FELTON LANE. YEAH. >> NOT A MOTION TO ADOPT. IT'S A MOTION TO REINTRODUCE. >> I'M SORRY. A MOTION TO INTRODUCE. >> THAT'S MY MOTION TO REINTRODUCE. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER BODY, YOUR HAND IS UP. >> NO, THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION SUBSTITUTE. YES. >> YES. TIMBER NIMS ORIGINAL MOTION. >> IS YOUR HAND STILL UP? >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NON HIMS. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP REAL QUICK AND ZOOM OUT? WE CAN SEE ALL THE AREAS THAT WE HAD PRIOR ENFORCEMENTS AT? >> YOUR POINT IS A GOOD ONE. >> I THINK CAN YOU ZOOM OUT FURTHER? THERE YOU GO. KEEP THAT. THE CONCERN I'M HEARING FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS A FULLY VALID AND LEGITIMATE CONCERN IS THE AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD PRIOR INCIDENCES, SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S BEEN ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS FOR ILLEGAL CANNABIS ACTIVITY, AND PEOPLE FEEL THAT FEEL UNSAFE BECAUSE OF THAT. I HEAR THAT. I WOULD SAY TO INCLUDE A BUFFER OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET AROUND ANY LOCATION THAT HAS HAD A PRIOR ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST IT. WE CAN WORK OUT THE DETAILS NOW. THE REASON WHY IS WE NEED AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD TO KEEP REDONDO OUT OF ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS TYPE OF STANDARD SETTING. IF SOMEONE IS WILLING, I COULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OR SOMEONE ELSE COULD TO SET THAT STANDARD BUFFER OF SAY, 100 FEET AROUND ANY LOCATION THAT HAS HAD A PRIOR ENFORCEMENT ACTION. IN REDONDO BEACH, THAT PROTECTS THE ENTIRE CITY AND INCLUDE SMOKE SHOPS AS WELL, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE SMOKE SHOPS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A SMOKE SHOP THAT HAS COUNCIL MAYOR KALUDEROVIC POINT, WE DON'T HAVE APPLICATIONS YET. BUT IF WE HAVE A SMOKE SHOP THAT'S ILLEGALLY SELLING SOMETHING AND GETS CAUGHT FOR SOMETHING, WE NOW HAVE ONE MORE TOOL FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE CITY TO ENFORCE AND GET RID OF SMOKE SHOPS, WHICH I HEAR, INCLUDES THE RIVIER VILLAGE, I MIGHT ADD. OTHER AREAS IN ALL OF NORTH OF REDONDO. WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION. THAT MAKE SENSE? >> THE BUFFER AROUND SMOKE SHOPS THAT ARE ILLEGAL? >> SMOKE SHOPS THAT HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY ENFORCED AGAINST AND PRIOR CANNABIS RETAIL LOCATIONS. >> I DON'T THINK THAT GIVES YOU MORE TOOLS TO GO AGAINST THEM. IT JUST WIDENS THE BUFFER ZONES. >> THIS LANGUAGE ACTUALLY MAKES IT OBJECTION. >> WHAT'S THE FEET? >> HE SAID 100 FEET. >> SAID 100 FEET? >> THAT WOULD TAKE OUT YOUR ONE CORNER THERE AND DISTRICT FOLKS. >> I DON'T THINK WE'VE MAPPED THAT YET FOR YOU, THOUGH. IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE SMOKE SHOP ENFORCEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTIES, SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR BUFFER. >> WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY, AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY BY TIME WE DO THE APPLICATIONS, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION. >> WE MAY NOT, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE MANY LOCATIONS. >> RIGHT. >> FIFTY FEET, 100 FEET? IF YOU'RE A SMOKE SHOP, WE PROBABLY REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE LAW. >> THAT DOESN'T HURT THE SMOKE THOUGH. >> IT HURTS [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT IS LOCATED NEAR THE SMOKE SHOPS IS WHAT IT DOES. >> IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, WE MAY WANT TO TAKE A PAUSE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE ARE. I'M NOT SAYING TONIGHT, BUT WE MAY WANT TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SO YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE EXISTING MAP MUCH LIKE WE HAVE THE ENFORCED AREAS CURRENTLY. THAT COULD BE A FAIRLY LARGE SWATH OF TOWN. >> BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE SELLING SOMETHING ILLEGALLY. >> CORRECT. >> WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST THEM, CONVICTED. >> WELL, I'M NOT SURE WE'VE SAID CONVICTED. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, WE HAVE RECEIVED MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING INTO THOSE VARIOUS SMOKE SHOPS. >> SHALL WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YOU SAID 100 FEET, ARE YOU GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO STAFF? TELL US WHAT IT WOULD BE. >> NO, 100 FEET FROM ENFORCED CANNABIS AND SMOKE SHOPS. >> I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDED. I SAID WE COULD INCLUDE. >> OKAY.. >> INCLUDE A 100-FOOT BUFFER AROUND ANY LOCATION THAT HAS HAD A PRIOR ENFORCEMENT ACTION OF CANNABIS. AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR. [02:15:01] >> IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, WHATEVER THE BUFFER IS, WE SHOULD COME BACK AND SEE WHAT THE BUFFER NEEDS TO BE. THE NET RESULT SHOULD BE NO CANNABIS SHOPS ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, WEST OF FELTON [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] AND FOR THE REASON WHICH WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT. ANYTHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT, IT'S NOT GOOD. ARTESIA BOULEVARD, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK IS UNIQUELY ONE OF THE MOST UNFIT PLACES IN THE ENTIRE CITY FOR CANNABIS. >> BUT I THOUGHT WEST OF FELTON WAS OKAY, BUT NOT THIS. [OVERLAPPING] WHERE WAS THE MOTION? >> I'M WILLING TO REACH FURTHER AGREEMENT. YOU WANT TO DO WEST OF FELTON, LET'S DO WEST OF FELTON BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT FURTHER AS A COMPROMISE. >> IT NEEDS TO BE OBJECTIVE. >> THAT'S OBJECTIVE ENOUGH. >> DO YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? >> I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE SUPPORT ON THAT. >> YEAH, I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE SMOKE SHOPS IN THAT. >> I SAID WE CAN, NOT NECESSARILY WE HAVE. I SAID WE COULD. >> THAT SEEMS LIKE A HEAVY LIFT. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. MAYBE WE CAN DO A FOLLOW-UP FOR THAT AS A SEPARATE ITEM AT THE END OF THE MEETING. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE CAN JUST DO ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION, HAVE A 100-FOOT BUFFER AROUND ANY LOCATION THAT HAS HAD A PRIOR CANNABIS ENFORCEMENT ACTION. >> WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> WE DO. WE HAVE ALL THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OF THE MAP. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT 100-FOOT BUFFER, WHAT PROPERTIES ARE WE EXCLUDING NOW? >> THE YELLOW ONES. >> ONES IN YELLOW. >> NO, I KNOW, BUT THERE'S A 100-FOOT BUFFER. [OVERLAPPING] >> HUNDRED FOOT FROM THE YELLOW. >> LET ME ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDING, CITY ATTORNEY WEBB OR CHERYL. WE SAY ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OF WHAT, CANNABIS SALES? BECAUSE THEN THAT COULD INCLUDE EVERY SMOKE SHOP. >> IT SAYS, WHERE ILLEGAL CANNABIS-RELATED OR DRUG-RELATED ACTIVITY HAS OCCURRED. >> THAT IS THE SMOKE SHOPS? >> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S TRUE. >> WE'RE ALREADY SAYING THAT. >> ALTHOUGH I THREW THAT OUT THERE ORIGINALLY, THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. THERE'S ALSO A TIME COMPONENT IN THERE. >> MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS. >> YEAH. UNLIKE THE BAN ON ARTESIA OR AVIATION WHERE THERE ISN'T TIME COMPONENT, ALSO, YOU'D SET UP AN UNUSUAL INCENTIVE SO THAT A SMOKE SHOP COULD DELIBERATELY GET CAUGHT IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CANNABIS TO SPEND THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] ANYWHERE. >> THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TODAY. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT IS A LITTLE CLEANER. >> LET'S DO IT. >> BUT IT'S STILL NOT ADDRESSING MY ISSUE ON AVIATION. [OVERLAPPING] >> ARE YOU STILL DOING A SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE? >> I DON'T THINK I GOT A SECOND TO THAT. >> IT'S HARD TO VOTE [OVERLAPPING] >> BACK TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS THERE. >> ON THE SCREEN. NO RETAILER SHALL BE ESTABLISHED OR LOCATED ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, WEST OF FELTON LANE. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE TO REINTRODUCE. >> YOU GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION? >> REINTRODUCE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM? >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC? >> NAY. >> NAY? >> AYE. [LAUGHTER] >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT, BUT AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 4-0. >> FOUR, ONE. >> FOUR, ONE. I'M SORRY >> INTRODUCTION BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBERS 3287-25 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 6 TO TITLE 6 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE TO REGULATE COMMERCIAL CANNABIS BUSINESS INTRODUCTION [INAUDIBLE] AS AMENDED, INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3288-25 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA AMENDING TITLE 10 CHAPTER 2, SECTION 10-2.1626 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES INLAND ZONES OF THE CITY. FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION AS AMENDED INTRODUCTION BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3289-25, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 5, SECTION 10-5.1626 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES, [02:20:01] COASTAL ZONES OF THE CITY INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO CAUTION, COUNCIL, WE JUST GOT THE READING THAT THAT EXCLUSION FOR ILLEGAL CANNABIS SALES COULD GO ANYWHERE, SMOKE SHOPS, OTHER SHOPS. WE'RE DONE WITH THAT. WHEN WE STILL AREN'T OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE'RE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR. WE GOT 816, AND I'M AT A LOSS. I FORGET WHO PULLED. >> I PULLED IT, IF IT'S THE TREASURE'S REPORT. IS THAT OKAY, MAY I HAVE THE FLOOR? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CITY TREASURER FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME ON THE HOLIDAY WEEKNIGHT YESTERDAY TO SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THIS. I KNOW YOU AND YOUR STAFF PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT. WE DIDN'T GET TO FINISH THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I DID WANT TO HONE IN ON ONE ITEM THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, AND I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE YIELDS. WHAT'S THE RETURN ON THE CITY'S INVESTMENT? WE HAVE A POOL OF MONEY. SOMETIMES IT'S AS LARGE AS 100 MILLION, NOT ALWAYS. BUT THAT MONEY IS PARKED IN DIFFERENT PLACES. WHAT'S OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT? WHAT'S THE YIELD? THE YIELD THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING, APPROXIMATELY, IT'S ABOUT 3%, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A BIT LOWER THAN A BENCHMARK YIELD, WHICH IS LIKE ALMOST AT FOUR AND 38. WE'RE BELOW THAT. THE REASON I MENTIONED IT AND WE DISCUSSED IT IS EVERY APPROXIMATE 1% OF YIELD THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING CAN BE, AS AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, A MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE CITY'S NOT BRINGING IN. WE KNOW HOW TIGHT WE ARE WITH REVENUE. WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS CANNABIS THING WHERE I THINK THE DRIVING FORCE WAS REVENUE BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF IT WERE THE RETAILERS WHO ARE IN HERE AND NOT THE PARENTS. BUT THE POINT IS THIS, OUR RATE OF RETURN IS ABOUT A PERCENTAGE OR MORE BELOW WHERE THE BENCHMARK IS. CITY OF CUPERTINO IS GETTING ABOUT 4.5% ON THEIR MONEY AS OF THE END OF THIS YEAR. SAN DIEGO IS ABOUT 4.4, BURBANK IS HIGHER THAN US, PASADENA. OTHER CITIES ARE HIGHER. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, THE PULLED MONEY INVESTMENT ACCOUNT POLICY SAYS, HEY, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YIELD, IT'S SAFETY, BECAUSE WE NEED THIS MONEY, SAFETY, SECURITY. IT'S LIQUIDITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE PAYROLL, WE HAVE CIP AND YIELD, SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY, I WANT THE BIGGEST RETURN. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE'RE BELOW WHERE OTHER PLACES ARE, WHERE THE BENCHMARK IS, IT'S COSTING US, AND I USE THAT TERM LOOSELY, A MILLION A YEAR FOR EVERY PERCENT WE ARE BELOW. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN BE DONE, AND IN A SENSE, I CHALLENGE YOU, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, TO LET US KNOW, CAN WE GET THAT YIELD HIGHER WITHOUT SACRIFICING LIQUIDITY, SAFETY, SECURITY? THAT'S IT. I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO YOU IF YOU OR YOUR STAFF HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. EUGENE SOLOMON, REDONDO BEACH CITY TREASURER, JOINED HERE TONIGHT WITH OUR DEPUTY CITY TREASURER, NILESH MEHTA. MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD ALLOW FOR THE STAFF TO PUT A SLIDE UP HERE. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION HERE IS FOUND IN THIS DATA, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. YOU'LL SEE HERE JUST PAGE 9 OF THE INVESTMENT REPORT, DISPLAYED IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW ARE US TREASURIES THAT WE HOLD. OF THOSE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE 13 OF THEM COMING TO BE MATURED WITHIN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS. OF THOSE 13, NINE WERE PURCHASES IN 2021, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE COUPON RATE IS BELOW 1%. THAT COUPON RATE PURCHASE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DURATION RISK THAT IS AFFECTING OUR PORTFOLIO YIELDS RIGHT NOW IN A DRAMATIC WAY, AND DRAMATIC BEING THE ONE POINT THAT YOU MENTIONED BELOW WHAT MAYBE BENCHMARK MIGHT BE. AS THOSE MATURITIES COME DUE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REINVEST THOSE MONIES AT A BETTER COUPON RATE, AND THAT WILL HELP OUR OVERALL YIELD IMPROVE TOWARDS THAT BENCHMARK. BUT BECAUSE OF THE MIX THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR PORTFOLIO OF OLDER SECURITIES LIKE THESE THAT ARE YIELDING UNDER 1% IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING CURRENTLY AND WHAT THE BENCHMARK IS, THE BENCHMARK BEING THE 0-5 YEAR TREASURIES THAT WE HAVE. >> THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THAT. DO YOU SEE THE ABILITY TO GET OUR YIELD UP AFTER THAT POINT AND GOING FORWARD, [02:25:04] OR DO YOU SEE US LAGGING BEHIND THE BENCHMARK IN SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES IN THE NEAR TERM? >> I WOULD SAY AS THESE MATURITIES COME DUE AND ABLE TO BE REINVESTED, WE ARE REINVESTING IN OUR MONEY MARKETS AND OTHER LIQUID FUNDS SUCH AS CAMP AT A RATE OVER 4%. WE WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT PRESENTS ITSELF THAT WE CAN TAKE DURATION, WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INVEST OUT 2, 3 OR 4 YEARS AND LOCK IN A RATE OVER UNDER CURRENT RATES. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATE'S GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE. IT'S LIQUID. WE CAN'T PREDICT THAT. BUT WHEN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE DURATION, WE COULD LOCK IN YIELDS IN EXCESS OF 4% BASED ON TODAY'S RATES. YES. >> YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING THAT, INCLUDING PERHAPS REACHING OUT TO CITIES LIKE CUPERTINO AND OTHERS WHO ARE PART OF THE POOL TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING, LOOKING AT HOW THEY'RE DOING INVESTMENTS, AND TAKING ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS INVESTED, THE CITY'S MONEY FROM A STANDPOINT OF SECURITY, LIQUIDITY, AND YIELD AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE A QUARTER OVER QUARTER ON THAT TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY? >> YES, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT WE TAKE. ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR CONSULTANT REVIEWING THE TOPICS WHICH YOU'RE BRINGING UP RIGHT NOW. NEXT MONTH, WE'LL BE ATTENDING A CONFERENCE, THE GOVERNMENT INVESTORS OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AND DISCUSS THESE ITEMS AND ATTEND CERTAIN MEETINGS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS THESE THINGS. YES, TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES. >> YOU HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THAT? I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. >> YES, WE DO. >> COULD YOU REINTRODUCE OR INTRODUCE YOUR COLLEAGUE THAT'S HERE. >> THIS IS OUR DEPUTY CITY TREASURER. >> NILESH MEHTA. >> I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, MR. MEHTA, FOR YOUR GREAT REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. I THINK I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL THAT WE APPRECIATE THOSE. THAT GIVES US THE BACKUP TO DO A WEEKEND FROM A OVERSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY ROLE TOGETHER WITH MR. TREASURER. YES. >> IF I MAY, PLEASE, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, MAYOR LIGHT. WE RECEIVE THESE REPORTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, AS DOES OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION. AT ANY TIME, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. WE'RE ALWAYS WELCOME AND AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> GOING TO RECEIVE AND FILE OR JUST A MOTION? >> NOT YET. >> I'M SORRY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> ALONG THE LINES OF THE TREASURIES, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MATURITY DATES OF NINE OF THE 13 ARE ALL WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF EACH OTHER, SO JULY OF 2025 TO NOVEMBER. NORMALLY WE LATER THEM, CORRECT, SO THAT THE MATURITY DATE ACTUALLY IS SPREAD OUT MORE. IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY CONCENTRATED IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THEN THE 2026S ARE ALSO. HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING IT OVER SEVERAL YEARS SO THAT THEY MATURE AT DIFFERENT RATES AND THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE DOLLAR COST AVERAGING IN THAT WAY? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE LOOK AT THE TIME TO MATURITY, HOW MANY MONTHS OR YEARS OUT, OR WHETHER WE'RE JUST GOING TO SIMPLY HOLD IT SHORT IN OUR MONEY MARKET OR CAMP ACCOUNTS OR LIF TO MEET CASH FLOW NEEDS. THERE MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT WHERE YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF THESE COMING DUE AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN 2021, WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THEM IN AUGUST AND JULY, THOSE WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN TO MEET OUR CALPERS OBLIGATION THAT WOULD THEN BE COMING DUE IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. NOW, WITH OUR REFINANCE OF OUR CALPERS DEBT, THAT DEBT FINANCING PAYMENT COMES DUE IN MAY. WE'VE TAKEN STEPS DURING THE COURSE OF THE LAST 18 MONTHS OR SO THAT I'VE BEEN HERE TO GO AHEAD AND REALLOCATE THE TIMING OF THESE THINGS TO MEET THOSE DIFFERENT CASH FLOW NEEDS BASED UPON THE OPPORTUNITY, BASED UPON THE DEBT FINANCING OR OTHER FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, SUCH AS CALPERS DEBT. >> THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE PURCHASED SO MANY IN 2021, WE GOT A MUCH LOWER RATE, CORRECT? >> YES. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE. THESE ARE JUST THE TREASURIES. WE HAVE CORPORATE SECURITIES AND AGENCIES AS WELL. WE HAVE FANNIE MAE AND WE HAVE A CORPORATE COMING DUE IN APRIL. THAT APRIL MATURITY COULD HELP US WITH OUR DEBT SERVICE IN MAY. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE YIELD IS ON THE FANNIE MAE? >> I CAN PULL IT UP. ON THE EXPIRING FANNIE MAE? >> RIGHT. >> IT'S ON PAGE 10, 1.6. >> [OVERLAPPING] AA BOND, THAT SEEMS REALLY LOW. >> THAT WAS PURCHASED IN JANUARY OF 2020. >> AA+. >> YOU SEE SOME OF WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS DURATION RISK AFFECTING OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO YIELDS? >> YEAH. [02:30:01] >> THAT WAS SIMPLY THE MARKETPLACE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. >> IT WAS 1.6, BELOW TWO? >> YES. YOU MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THAT TIME TO LOCK IN A 1.6 AS COMPARED TO A SHORTER DURATION THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A HALF A POINT. >> THAT WAS A REFLECTION OF THE ENTIRE MARKET, BASICALLY, A LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT? >> CORRECT. YES. >> NOW AFTER COVID, THE END OF QUANTITATIVE EASING, ETC, EVERYTHING'S MUCH HIGHER NOW THAN IT WAS. >> WE'RE SEEING INTEREST RATES AT NEAR 20-YEAR HIGHS. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN WE GET A MOTION? >> IS THIS FOR RECEIVING FILE ITEM? MOTION TO RECEIVING FILE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? >> ANYONE ONLINE? >> WE HAVE NONE. >> ALL FOUR? >> AYE. >> THAT'S 4:0. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI IS ABSENT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES, [J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] FINALLY, THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. NOW WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION WILL BE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE, AND WE'LL DO WRITTEN FIRST. WITH THAT, LET'S SEE. FIRST UP IS JIM MUELLER AND THEN ELAINE SEEKER. >> THE SWIMMER IS LEAVING? THE SWIMMERS ARE LEAVING. I GET TO SIGN THEIR STUFF? >> YOU JUST HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THREE HOURS. >> I HAVE THEIR STUFF SIGNED. [BACKGROUND] >> COUNSEL. >> THANK YOU. >> LAURA'S SIGNING FOR THEM. >> GOT IT. >> DON'T START MY TIMER, YET. [LAUGHTER] DECLINING TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT CITY SERVICES IS A KEY CONCERN IN REDONDO BEACH. THE CITY IS SEARCHING FOR A SOLUTION. IMPROVING THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND ALONG AVIATION HAS POTENTIAL TO HELP A LOT. BUT WHY ISN'T ARTESIA AVIATION PRODUCING LIKE IT USED TO? YOU CAN ASK ANY REAL ESTATE AGENT. THE NORTH REDONDO COMMUNITY HAS BEEN CHANGING. THE OLDER RESIDENTS ARE MOVING OUT OF SINGLE FAMILY BUNGALOWS, YOUNGER, MORE EDUCATED AFFLUENT PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND BRINGING CHILDREN AND THEIR HOUSING IS LARGELY MULTI-UNIT. THEIR LIFESTYLE DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND THE HOME AND THE YARD, BECAUSE THERE IS NO YARD. THEY DON'T BUY LOCALLY. THERE ARE BETTER DEALS ONLINE. THESE NEW RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR ACTIVITIES AND EXPERIENCES AWAY FROM HOME, AND THE GOODS THEY BUY LOCALLY ARE CONNECTED TO SERVICES. THE ARTESIA AVIATION BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS THUS SHIFTED FROM HIGH VOLUME TANGIBLE GOODS SELLING TO SERVICE PLUS BUSINESSES LIKE RESTAURANTS, GYMS, MEDICAL OFFICES, ANIMAL CLINICS, ETC, BUT WITH LOWER VOLUME OF TAXABLE TRANSACTIONS, AND THUS, LOWER REVENUE GROWTH FOR REDONDO CITY. A SMOKE SHOP IS A TANGIBLE GOOD SELLING BUSINESS, BUT RESIDENTS CLEARLY DON'T LIKE THEM. IN FACT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE ITS BEST TO IGNORE SO FAR. HOW DOES THE CITY ENCOURAGE REVENUE GROWTH IN THE ENVIRONMENT I'VE OUTLINED? OUR TEAM, THE ARTESIA COMMUNITY PROJECT, IS PARTNERING WITH THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND TRYING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. FIRST, RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO KILL THIS PROBLEM. PEOPLE COME TO AN AREA BECAUSE IT IS SAFE AND INTERESTING. THINGS ARE HAPPENING THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF, AND WE'LL SPEND TIME ON THE STREET. EXAMPLES, A FARMERS MARKET ON THE POWER LINE CROSSING OF ARTESIA, FESTIVAL TYPE EVENTS LIKE THE RECENT DINE AROUND ARTESIA PROJECT. THESE CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE, FOR EXAMPLE, BY TURNING BLANK WALLS INTO EYE-CATCHING MURALS DEPICTING REDONDO HISTORY, THEY CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. A STIMULATING OUTDOOR MOVIE NIGHT DURING THE SUMMER, ALLOW A VENDOR TO OPEN A FULL SERVICE UP SCALE TAVERN FOR NIGHT LIFE. THESE DON'T REQUIRE YEARS OF PLANNING AND JUSTIFICATION, MILLIONS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THEY DO REQUIRE THE CITY TO BE BOLD AND EXPERIMENTAL IN TUNING THE COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT TO BUILD THE ATMOSPHERE OF WELCOME, INTEREST, AND SAFETY TO THE NEW TYPES OF RESIDENTS IN REDONDO BEACH. ONCE MERCHANTS SEE THERE ARE PEOPLE GATHERING ON ARTESIA, THEIR INTERESTS WILL BE PEAKED. THE FIRST ONES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE WILL BE THE PIONEERS, THEN COME THE SETTLERS AND SO ON. BUT, THERE'LL BE NO SHAZAM, A NIAGARA FALLS OF COIN POURING INTO CITY COFFERS LIKE IN THE MOVIES, BUT WITH STEADY EFFORT, THE CITY WILL SEE GROWING IMPROVEMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ELAINE SEEKER, AND THEN RICK MCCOLIN. [02:35:07] >> GOOD EVENING. I'M ELAINE SEEKER FROM DISTRICT 5. AFTER DECADES OF ATTEMPTS AND THROUGH DETERMINED EFFORT BY REDONDO RESIDENTS IN AUGUST OF 2018, A BAN ON ALL MOTORIZED LEAF BLOWERS HAD FINALLY MATERIALIZED. TO MY GREAT RELIEF, THE CITY COUNCIL CONCURRED THAT ALL LEAF BLOWERS FOIL THE AIR WE BREATHE, AS WELL AS DISTURB THE PEACE AND QUIET OF NEIGHBORHOODS. FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE WAS AT LAST, RELATIVELY QUIET AND THE ENVIRONMENT WASN'T BEING CHRONICALLY ASSAULTED BY THESE MACHINES. UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE THE LEAF BLOWER BAN WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE USE OF BATTERY-POWERED LEAF BLOWERS, THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A HIGH RESURGENCE IN THE USE OF GAS-POWERED LEAF FLOORS. PRESENTLY, ALL LEAF FLOORS ARE BEING USED AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE FOR FIVE YEARS, THERE HAD BEEN VIRTUALLY NONE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT ANY CLEANER, IT'S ACTUALLY MESSIER, DIRTIER, AND NOISIER. IF THE LARGER CONCERN WITH THE LEAF BLOWER BAN WAS BECAUSE OF CITY WORKERS COSTS AND INCONVENIENCE, MORE CONSIDERATION COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO REDUCING OR ELIMINATING INCONSEQUENTIAL AND UNNECESSARY WORKLOADS, AND SUPPLYING THEM ACCESS TO BATTERY-POWERED VACUUMS. BIASLY-WORDED SURVEYS ASSUME THAT BATTERY-POWER LEAP BLOWERS WOULD MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL, AND THEY ARE CLEARLY MISTAKEN. SURVEYS ARE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, SKEWED AND WORDED TO GIVE AN ANSWER THAT EITHER OBSCURES THE ISSUE, MISINFORMS OR MISLEADS RESPONDENTS IN ORDER TO GIVE A DISTINCTLY PREFERRED OUTCOME. THERE IS A SAYING THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. THE BAN ON ALL MOTORIZED LEAF BLOWERS WASN'T BROKEN AND IT DIDN'T NEED FIXING. IN WEEKS PAST, I OBSERVED SIX SEPARATE INCIDENTS WHERE GAS POWER LEAF BLOWERS WERE BEING USED. ALL THE WHILE, THE PEACE DISTURBING BATTERY POWER LEAF BLOWERS ARE CONTINUING TO WHIP UP PLUMES OF DIRT, DEBRIS, CONTAMINANTS, AND TOXIC PARTICULATE MATTER THAT SELL ROUT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IS APPARENT TO ME THAT SOME CITY LEADERS AND PERSONNEL ARE NOT CONCERNED IN PRESERVING THE SANCTITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT, NOR IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS AS THEY OFTEN PURPORT TO BE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOME OF THEM DO WANT RESIDENTS TO RETREAT INSIDE, KEEP DOORS AND WINDOWS SHUT AS LEAF BLOWERS CONTINUE TO POLLUTE THE ENVIRONMENT. IN ESSENCE, AIR NOISE POLLUTERS NOW REIGN SUPREME IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. I WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE UTMOST REGARD, RESPECT, AND APPRECIATION FOR COUNCILMAN TODD LOEWENSTEIN, IN VOICING HIS IRREFUTABLE WISDOM AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK HIM FOR HIS STEADFAST SUPPORT AND UNWAVERING EFFORTS IN ATTEMPTING TO KEEP THE BAN AGAINST ALL MOTORIZED LEAF BLOWERS INTACT. MY HOPE IS THAT REDONDO BEACH WILL SOON BECOME ENLIGHTENED ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT BY ALLOWING THE USE OF BATTERY POWER LEAF BLOWERS, IT HAS ONLY CONFOUNDED, COMPOUNDED, AND EXACERBATED THIS ENTIRE ISSUE, AND IT HAS FAILED TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF ITS RESIDENTS FROM THE DETRIMENTAL POLLUTING EFFECTS, AND THE UNNECESSARY NUISANCE CAUSED BY THESE MACHINES, AND THAT THE CITY WILL ONCE AGAIN BAN THE USE OF ALL MOTORIZED LEAF BLOWERS. THANK YOU. CAN I PLEASE SUBMIT MY SPEECH FOR THE RECORD. >> MOTION FILED. >> SECOND. >> ALL FOUR? >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. SEEKER. >> THANK YOU. >> RICK MCCOLIN, AND THEN CHRISTOPHER D. BOYLE. [LAUGHTER] NO, YOU'RE AFTER RICK. >> I'M SORRY. >> YOU'RE AFTER RICK. I ALWAYS CALL OUT TWO, SO YOU CAN GET READY. >> NO PROBLEM. >> GOOD EVENING, ALL. I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT I'M DOING WITH THE ARTESIA COMMUNITY PROJECT. MY ACP TEAMMATE, JIM, DESCRIBES SOME GREAT CONCEPTS HE AND SANDY HAVE PROPOSED. WE'RE ALSO MEETING WITH DAVE CHARBE NEXT WEEK ON A BID. HE HAS LOTS OF ENERGY BEHIND THE CONCEPT. I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE MODULES I WANT TO PROVIDE THE DESIGN ARTESIA, THE C ARTESIA, ACTIVATE ARTESIA. I WANT TO DIVE INTO THE CORE OF ALL THIS FOR JUST A MINUTE. AT THE NRBBA MEETING LAST WEEK, JIM PRESENTED SOME GREAT FINANCIAL DATA ABOUT OUR NEED FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. PERSONALLY, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSS OF LOCAL RETAIL. IT'S MOUNTING WITH CLOSURES AT MACY'S, COLES, BIG LOTS, BILLABONG, DOLLAR TREE, JO ANN ON AND ON. I WAS JUST READING ABOUT NORTH ORANGE COUNTY'S CLOSING DOWN. I BELIEVE OUR SOCIAL, CIVIC AND ECONOMIC LIVES SUFFER AS THIS GOES ON. WE HUMANS NEED TO BE OUT INTERACTING WITH OURSELVES AND WITH THE REAL WORLD. MY BUSINESS IS FOCUSED ON A RENEWAL OF LOCAL RETAIL THROUGH COMMUNITY COMMERCE. IT'S A NEW CONCEPT. THE SHORT VERSION IS THAT I WANT TO ELEVATE THE COMMERCE EXPERIENCE BY ENABLING MERCHANTS TO HELP CUSTOMERS ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS AND FULFILL NEEDS RATHER THAN JUST BUY PRODUCTS. I CAN AND WE'LL EXPLAIN THIS MORE IN PERSON AND IN TIME. BUT COMMUNITY COMMERCE SHOULD IMPROVE INVENTORY FORECASTING AND MANAGEMENT FOR MERCHANTS, WHICH MEANS LOWER COSTS AND IMPROVE CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIPS WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE WHERE MERCHANTS ARE SOLVING PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF SELLING PRODUCTS. [02:40:01] I'M TRYING TO TIP THE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE BACK TOWARDS LOCAL RETAIL VERSUS ONLINE. I ALSO MET WITH AN ACTIVE GALLERIA MERCHANT LAST WEEK. SHE REALLY LIKED THE C ARTESIA DEMO MAP AND ONCE ONE FOR THE GALLERIA, WHICH I HOPE TO PROVIDE. SHE AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY COMMERCE CAN HELP GALLERIA AS WELL. I'LL TALK TO THE MANAGEMENT THERE FAIRLY SOON TO GET THAT STARTED. MY PLAN IS TO HAVE ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND THE GALLERIA AS THE FLAGSHIP CITES FOR THIS CONCEPT. JIM AND SANDY HAVE SOME EXCELLENT CONCEPTS TO IMPLEMENT. THERE ARE MORE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH, AND SO I ALSO PLAN TO TRY SOMETHING COMPLETELY NEW. THIS IS MY PRIORITY. IT SEEMS LIKE THE SITUATION IS URGENT. I WAS JUST WORKING ON THIS ON MY OWN UNTIL I STARTED TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I'D LIKE TO SPIN THIS UP AS A NEW TECH BUSINESS ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD. I'M NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH ALONE BECAUSE I'M HERE, ETC, SO NOW I'M INTERVIEWING TECH PEOPLE. SOON, I'LL BE ASKING FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT. I CAN GET SUCH AS BETA TESTING, RESEARCH, GETTING THE WORD OUT, ETC. IT SHOULD BE FUN. THAT'S IT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. AS ALWAYS I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. RICK@MCQCORP.COM. YES. >> THANK YOU RICK. >> YEAH, YOU BET. >> NOW, CHRISTOPHER D. BOYLE, [LAUGHTER] AND THEN JESS MONEY. LONG TIME. >> VERY LONG TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY CLERK, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, BOTH HERE PRESENT AND AT HOME. I'D LIKE TO SAY, I ANTICIPATE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MY WORDS THIS EVENING THAT FALL UNDER POLITICAL SPEECH WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. THANK YOU. I SPEAK TO THE NEED FOR REDONDO TO CLEANSE ITS IMAGE. IT SEEMS THAT EVERY GENERATION, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. BACK IN THE LATE '70S, WALTER MITCHELL, THE PAINTER, AND WITH THE CONTRACT OVER BROOKSIDE. FORTUNATELY, HE WAS FOUND AND CONVICTED WENT TO PRISON. ROLLED FORWARD 20 YEARS, ANOTHER GENERATION, AND WE HAD THE MAYOR BRAD PARTON, GIVING OUT THE CITY STATIONERY TO HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER TIM KERRY. MR. KERRY USED THE LETTERHEAD FOR PURPOSES OF SENTENCING CHARACTER REFERENCE. HE PLED TO SEXUAL ASSAULT UPON A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN LONG BEACH ON HIS BOAT. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT. NOW, I READ IN THE LOCAL PAPERS. WE HAVE A MEMBER WHO, HE'S AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE'S BARRED FROM PRACTICING FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, AND I READ THE INDICTMENT. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT WHEN I COME TO THE COUNCIL, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH. I'VE READ THAT INDICTMENT IN FULL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE FACTS AS THEY WERE PLED TO AND ACCEPTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER. THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS A PRACTICING ATTORNEY AS A CLIENT TRUST ACCOUNT. AS Y'ALL KNOW, CLIENT TRUST ACCOUNTS ARE PROTECTED. YOU HAVE TO RECONCILE THEM EVERY MONTH AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. YOU MUST CERTIFY TO THE STATE BAR THAT THERE ARE NO IRREGULARITIES. EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND CLEAN. THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLAR WIRE TRANSFER INTO THAT ACCOUNT THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER CLAIMS HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE SOURCE. IT SAT THERE FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR, AND YET SOMEHOW HE FILED AND SELF-CERTIFIED OR CAUSED TO BE CERTIFIED THAT THERE WERE NO IRREGULARITIES WITH THE ACCOUNT. IT'S AN IMPOSSIBILITY, AND THE JUDGE PARAPHRASING, SHE FOUND THE SAME, AND I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. HONESTLY, I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THE COUNCIL AT LARGE FOR REMAINING SILENT ON THIS MATTER. THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. JESS MONEY, AND THEN TONY ZULIGER. YOU'RE UP, JESS. JESS, YOU'RE UP. JESS MONEY, THEN TONY ZULIGER. >> FORGOT MY HEARING AGE. I'M A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING. HERE WE GO. >> MOTION RECEIVED IN FILE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR. >> AYE. >> ACCORDING TO MULTIPLE POLLS, [02:45:04] RESPECT FOR GOVERNMENT AND INSTITUTIONS, IS AN ALL-TIME LOW NATION WORDS. IT'S NOT HARD TO READ AND TO UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED THAT DISTRICT 4 COUNCILMAN ZANE OBAGI HAS QUIETLY SUBMITTED A LETTER NOTIFYING THE CITY THAT HE HAS ENTERED INTO A DEFERRED PROSECUTION AGREEMENT WITH THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR MULTIPLE FELONY FRAUD CHARGES INVOLVING $500,000 HE STOLE FROM A CLIENT. THE TEXT OF THIS ORDER STATES, DEFENDANT CONSENTS AND AGREES TO THE USA FILING, THE CHARGES DEFENDANT IN COURT 1, WITH VIOLATIONS OF USC 1343 AND 1346 WIRE FRAUD AND HONEST SERVICE FRAUD. IT FURTHER STATES THAT DEFENDANT ACKNOWLEDGES AND AGREES THAT HE IS RESPONSIBLE UNDER UNITED STATES LAW FOR THE RX CHARGED IN THE INFORMATION, AND THE FACTS DESCRIBED IN THE STATEMENT OF FACTS ARE TRUE AND CORRECT. THE TERM ACKNOWLEDGES AND ACCEPTS ARE LEGAL WEASEL WORDS TO GET AROUND THE TERM ADMITS, BUT ASK ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY IF THIS IS IN ESSENCE A GUILTY PLEA. LAST YEAR, THE STATE BAR SUSPENDED HIM FOR TWO YEARS FOR THE SAME OFFENSE. NOW, THE FINTECH REQUIRED HIM TO RESIGN FROM THE STATE BAR AND NOTIFY THE CITY OF THIS DSS AGREEMENT. THE FEDERAL DEMAND FOR SUCH NOTIFICATION IS A CLEAR INDICATION THEY BELIEVE OBAGI'S FITNESS TO HOLD OFFICE REQUIRES SERIOUS PUBLIC EXAMINATION. CHARTER SECTION 102 STATES IN THE EVENT THAT SUCH OFFICIAL IS CONVICTED OF A CRIME INVOLVING MORAL TURPITUDE, SUCH OFFICIALS OFFICE SHALL BECOME VACANT AND SHALL BE SO DECLARED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. NOW, RAS PUTIN, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WAS QUICK TO ASSURE THE DAILY BREEZE THAT THE PLEA DEAL DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CONVICTION, AND AS THE DIRT BAG OBAGI IS ELIGIBLE TO REMAIN ON THE COUNCIL. HOWEVER, AS USUAL, MIKE WEBB IS BOTH A LIAR AND WRONG. IN 1992, CITY CLERK JOHN ALFOR PLED GUILTY TO FELONY FORGERY. THE CITY COUNCIL ACTED, AND THEY HIRED AN ATTORNEY FROM FRANDZEL, SHER, ROBINS KAPLAN, AND BLOOM WHO REPORTED THAT, "A CHARTER LAW CITY HAS EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION ON HOW TO DETERMINE A CRIME OF MORAL TURPITUDE AND DOES NOT HAVE TO DEFER TO STATE LAW PROVIDED A REASONABLE DEFINITION OF TURPITUDE IS USED. PROVIDED THAT THE COUNCIL ACTS REASONABLY AND NOT CAPRICIOUSLY, ANY ACTION IT TAKES WILL BE UPHELD BY THE COURT." HERE WE HAVE A CLARE CASE OF MORAL TURPITUDE. AS YOU REALLY DON'T GET TO FINISH, ANYWAY. >> YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. >> YOU GUYS NEED TO GET RID OF HIM OR I'LL GO TO COURT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE. >> TONY ZULIGER. YOU'RE UP, SIR. THAT'S THE LAST CARD WE HAVE. >> WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO US, WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY, THE GENERAL PUBLIC. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO BRING UP IS ABOUT THE GALLERY MALL. MR. OBAGI, YOU HAD PUT ON YOUR AD ON YOUTUBE ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 350 APARTMENT UNITS, I HOPEFULLY THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN RUBBER-STAMPED BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST I HAD HEARD OF IT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND SEE THE CITY DO IS SEND OUT LETTERS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THE GALLERIA TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NEWSPAPERS TO READ, LIKE WE USED TO, THE DAILY BREEZE, EVEN DON'T GET IT ANYMORE. THEN AS FAR AS GRANT AVENUE, YOU MENTIONED REPAVING. IF I COULD SAVE SOME MONEY ON THAT REPAVING PROJECT AS A SUGGESTION, YOU SAID IT MIGHT COST $6 MILLION. WELL, I GOT A WAY TO SAVE SOME MONEY IF YOU'RE UP FOR IT. THAT WAY WOULD BE IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GRANT, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE MAIN ROAD THAT PEOPLE DRIVE ON IS THE WORST PART OF THE WHOLE ROAD. THE CENTER PORTION OF THE ROAD, IT'S NOT DAMAGED. THE PARKING LANES, MOST OF THEM ARE NOT DAMAGED. IF YOU JUST GRIND THE EAST AND THE WEST LANES AND REPAVE THOSE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE 50% OR MORE. [02:50:02] NOW, FIRE STATION REBUILDING. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME RESIDENT ACTION COMMITTEE AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER TO GET SUGGESTIONS OUT. MY BROTHER IS A FIREMAN FOR SANTA BARBARA COUNTY. THEY JUST BUILT A BRAND NEW FIRE STATION IN NEW CUYAMA. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE BEING BUILT IN HERE IN REDONDO FOR STATION 1. >> NEW CUYAMA? >> PARDON? >> NEW CUYAMA? >> NEW CUYAMA IN SANTA BARBARA COUNTY. THAT FIRE STATION WAS A THREE BAY FIRE STATION WITH TWO APPARATUS DEEP, BEAUTIFUL STATION, BUT IT'S A DUAL-PURPOSE STATION, AND IT ALSO SERVES THE SHERIFF THERE, AS WELL. THE OTHER THING IS ON STATION 1. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE CITY CONSIDERS DOING SOMETHING LIKE MANHATTAN BEACH DID AND BUILD THE FIRE STATION BEHIND YOU HERE. THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE COHESIVE IN ONE AREA. NOW, STATION 1, TAKE THAT PROPERTY AFTER THIS IS BUILT, SELL IT, YOU JUST PAID FOR PART OF THAT PROPERTY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? STATION 2, YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD A TEMPORARY FIRE STATION OVER POSSIBLY AT THE CITY [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO PASS ON MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE. >> SECOND. >> ALL FOUR. >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S THE LAST CARD. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? >> HI, THIS IS ANDY [INAUDIBLE]. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THE NEWS. MAYBE YOU DID NOT HEAR IT. MAYBE YOU DID. THE CITY OF TORRANCE TRIED TO ANNEX YOUR NEIGHBORS HERE EL CAMINO VILLAGE. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THEY WANT TO BUILD FIRE STATION AND POLICE STATIONS AND WHATEVER. BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE MONEY, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND YOUR CITY, AND THEN THEY HAVE A BIG PARK THERE, BECAUSE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACES. YOU COULD BUILD A BUNCH OF PICOBAR. YOU KNOW PICOBAR? THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RAKE IN TAX DOLLARS. ANYWAY, UNFORTUNATELY, HOW I SEE IT WITH MY POOR EDUCATION. THE PROBLEM IS HERE IN AMERICA THE RETAIL BUSINESS IS WAY DOWN, AND THAT'S A MAJOR INCOME FOR THE CITIES. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? EVERYBODY IS FIGHTING FOR THE DOLLARS, AS I HEARD IT ON THE TORRANCE CITY COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE I'M ATTENDING. THE ONLY THING TO BRING IN MORE MONEY IS REPLACE THE INCOME, WHAT THE RETAIL INDUSTRY DOESN'T BRING IN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF YOU ANNEX OTHER CITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, AND THEY HAVE A BIG PARK LIKE ALONDRA PARK, IMAGINE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH ALONDRA PARK. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S A LITTLE BIT RUN DO, BUT FEW MILLION DOLLAR HERE OR THERE, THAT FIXES EVERYTHING AND PICOBAR OF COURSE IS BRINGING IN THE MONEY AND OTHER RECREATION AREA, THEN YOU COULD SET UP THE CANNABIS RIGHT THERE IN THE PARK OPEN AIR MARKET LIKE THE ROADIUM. THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. A LITTLE BIT OF INVESTMENT AND THE BIG MONEY RAKING IN BECAUSE THE RETAIL INDUSTRY IS DEAD AND GOING DOWN, LIKE THE CELEBRATING DEL AMO FASHION CENTER BUT I WAS THERE TODAY. IT'S TERRIBLE. THEY CANNOT OPEN ANYTHING UP FOR SEES OR NOTHING. ANNEXING ALONDRA PARK AND THE CITY NEXT TO IT IS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST. BUILD BIG APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT'S BRINGING IN THE MONEY, RETAIL STORE DOWN THERE, A CANNABIS STORE DOWN THERE, DIFFERENT ENTRANCE FOR THE KIDS. THE KIDS GO ON THE BACK DOOR, AND THE PEOPLE COME THE FRONT DOOR. ANYWAY, I'M JUST GIVING IDEAS IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE CITY. >> TIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? ANYONE ONLINE? [02:55:02] >> YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE. SHEILA LAM. >> GO AHEAD, SHEILA. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS SHEILA LAM, DISTRICT 4. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD MADE CHARGES AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI FOR WIRE FRAUD AND HONEST SERVICES FRAUD. EACH CHARGE IS CONSIDERED SERIOUS AND CAN CARRY DECADES OF TIME IN PRISON. HOWEVER, THESE CHARGES HAVE BEEN DEFERRED FOR THREE YEARS UNDER AN AGREEMENT THAT OBAGI MADE WITH THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS DEFERRED PROSECUTION AGREEMENT, WHILE NOT A CONVICTION, MEANS THE GOVERNMENT HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PROSECUTE, AND HE AGREED TO THE CONDITION IN ORDER TO AVOID TRIAL. IN THE AGREEMENT, MR. OBAGI ACKNOWLEDGES HIS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FRAUDULENT CONDUCT, AND HE AGREES THAT HE WILL NOT CHALLENGE THESE FACTS IF HIS CASE IS BROUGHT TO COURT. HE AGREES THAT THE FACTS OF THE CASE ARE TRUE. THE CHARGES OF WIRE FRAUD AND HONEST SERVICES FRAUD ARE COMMONLY CONSIDERED CRIMES INVOLVING MORAL TURPITUDE UNDER LEGAL AND ETHICAL STANDARDS. THESE TYPES OF OFFENSES TYPICALLY INDICATE DISHONESTY, FRAUD, DECEIT, THEFT, OR INTENTIONAL HARM TO OTHERS. MR. OBAGI HAS AGREED THAT THESE FACTS ARE TRUE. IS HE FIT FOR OFFICE? WHILE LEGALLY, HE MAY BE ALLOWED TO SERVE ETHICALLY AND PRACTICALLY. HIS PAST ACTIONS SUGGEST HE LACKS THE INTEGRITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY EXPECTED OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO REPRESENT RESIDENTS FAIRLY AND RESPONSIBLY. FINALLY, THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU ON THE DIAS AND IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO HAVE ENDORSED OR FUNDED MR. OBAGI'S CAMPAIGN, KNOWING FULL WELL THESE CHARGES HAD BEEN MADE, BUT YOU CHOSE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. AND IN SO DOING, YOU CONDONE THIS UNLAWFUL BEHAVIOR. WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK FAR BACK IN HISTORY TO SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF "LOOKING THE OTHER WAY". EVERY DAY PEOPLE LOOKING THE OTHER WAY COLLECTIVELY CAUSE DISASTER. THIS IS A MATTER OF GRAVE CONCERN TO THE REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS. I CALL ON THIS COUNCIL TO BRING FORTH THESE ALLEGATIONS IN A COMMUNITY FORUM TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. JUST AS MR. OBAGI HAS BETRAYED OUR TRUST, YOUR FAILURE TO ACT IN THIS MANNER BETRAYS OUR TRUST IN YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> YES. MR. W. >> I DIDN'T CATCH THE NAME. ARE YOU ONLINE, SIR OR MA'AM? IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT PICKING UP. >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >> CAREFUL. >> YEAH. PLEASE DO NOT. I REPEAT. PLEASE DO NOT INTERRUPT ME UNTIL MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP BECAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AND ASK THEM WHY. THEY, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE CITY PROSECUTOR ARE ALLOWING CRIMES TO BE COMMITTED TO RESIDENCE, SOMETIMES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE AND THE POLICE BLATANTLY REFUSE TO ARREST AND PROSECUTE THE PERPETRATOR, ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS IMMUNE FROM FOLLOWING THE LAW, DISTURBING THE PEACE, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, STALKING, ANNOYING A MINOR, ELDER ABUSE, HARASSMENT, ASSAULT, PEEPING. THOSE ARE ALL CRIMES THAT ANYONE COULD BE ARRESTED FOR AND PROSECUTED FOR. BUT WHY IS IT THAT THIS MENTALLY RETARDED PSYCHO WHO GIVES HIMSELF HIS IDIOTIC PET NAME, ANDY PORK CHOP, WHEN HIS REAL NAME IS ANDRAS TURDA, TURDA, LIKE AND FLOP AND TURDA TO COMMIT THESE CRIMES AND GET AWAY WITH IT. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ARREST HIM FOR REFUSING AS IF HE WAS FLYING ON A REGULAR BASIS, ALTHOUGH QUITE HONESTLY, HE SHOULD. BUT THOSE OTHER CRIMES I JUST LISTED ARE ALL ARRESTABLE OFFENSES, AND THE POLICE REFUSE TO DO THEIR JOB AND ARREST HIM, AND THE CITY COUNCIL ENCOURAGES HIM BY GIVING HIM ANOTHER PLATFORM TO GET ATTENTION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE LITTLE BABY WANTS. TURDA KEEPS SAYING, OH, I'M HERE TO HELP. I JUST COME TO HELP MY COMMUNITY IS A GOOD UNITED STATES CITIZEN. TURDA MAKES HIS COMMUNITY MISERABLE. TURDA KEEPS HIS HOUSE LOOKING AS HORRIBLE AS POSSIBLE, PURPOSELY JUST TO DESTROY EVERYONE'S PROPERTY VALUE. TURDA TERRORIZES HIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HE HARASSES AND STOPS ALL HIS NEIGHBORS AND THE CHILDREN IN NEARBY SCHOOLS LIKE A PERVERT AND SEXUAL PREDATOR, [03:00:02] FOLLOWING THEM AND HIDING IN THE BUSHES, AND FILMING THEM, WORKING OUT DURING PE AND, SCREAMING OBSCENITIES AT THEM AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS, AND THE POLICE DO NOTHING, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES DO PEOPLE CALL THE POLICE TO ASK TO STOP THE HARASSMENT? WHY? WHY WANT THE POLICE EVER DO THEIR JOB? WHY DO THEY ENCOURAGE TURDA BY LETTING HIM BREAK THE LAW? DO THE POLICE LECTURED TO GET AWAY FOR BREAKING THE LAW REPEATEDLY BECAUSE THEY FEEL SORRY FOR TURDA, THAT IT'S NOT HIS FAULT THAT HE'S MENTALLY RETARDED BECAUSE HIS MOTHER DID SOME SERIOUS DRUGS WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH HIM. DO THEY FEEL SORRY FOR HIM THAT HE'S PROBABLY ACTING AS SAY HE GAINED SELF RESPECT BACK BECAUSE HE WAS BULLIED ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP IN SCHOOL IN HUNGRY? IS IT BECAUSE HIS DAUGHTER, MEGAN TURDA, WHO HE LIKES TO CALL TUDY TURDA? I DON'T KNOW WHY HE LIKES TO CALL HIS DAUGHTER TUDY. SHE DOESN'T RESEMBLE KIM FIELDS AND THE FACTS OF LIFE AT ALL. IS IT BECAUSE SHE'S SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS AS WELL? BOTTOM LINE, YOU NEED TO STOP FEEDING THE TURD. YOU NEED TO FLUSH THE TURD. >> I ASSUME HE'S DONE. >> DID WE LOSE HIM? >> I THINK HE'S DONE. >> ANYONE ELSE. >> YES. CANDACE NAFISSI. >> CANDACE, ARE YOU THERE? >> HE'S NOT RESPONDING. >> LET'S GO TO OLIVER TO LOVE. >> HELLO. YES. MY NAME IS KYLE. I'M OLIVER'S MOM, AND HE IS A 10-YEAR-OLD FIFTH GRADER, AND WE ARE JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEAK OUT OF ORDER ON AGENDA ITEM N1 BEFORE HE GOES TO BED. >> I'M SORRY, BUT WE DIDN'T MOVE THAT FORWARD. >> OH, I SEE. THAT WILL BE FOR ANOTHER TIME THEN. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE] YOU'VE FEW MINUTES. >> ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE LAST CALL, SO IT WILL BE UP IN A MINUTE, MA'AM, IF YOU'RE STILL THERE. I'M SORRY. WE GOT L1. >> IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE. >> IT WILL BE A WHILE. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S IT. THIRTY MINUTE UP. >> I CAN DO CANDACE. >> WE'RE OVER 30 MINUTES RIGHT NOW. >> WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO REVEAL ANY DISCLOSURES IN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. [K. EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS] COUNCIL MEMBER N9. >> I HAVE NONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> STAFF. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> NONE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI? >> NONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> MY EX PARTE CONTACT CENSUS ITEM WAS AGENDAS HAVE BEEN WITH STAFF. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU KNOW WHAT, WE TALKED BEFORE THE FIRST TIME. THIS IS THE SECOND THE SECOND TIME. >> SINCE THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, THE ONLY CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD IS WITH STAFF. >> WE WILL NOW GO INTO L1. [L. PUBLIC HEARINGS] >> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE INTRODUCTION FOR THE FIRST READING. THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO SIGNS DOWN IN THE HARBOR. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVED. >> SECOND. >> READ THAT. >> ALL FOR IT? >> AYE. >> UNANIMOUS. SO WE ARE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHO'S TALKING IS MARK, ARE YOU? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING ON THE CONSULTATION. >> THERE YOU GO. >> ON FEBRUARY 4, THE CITY COUNCIL HELD A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY. YOU MAY RECALL THAT THOSE TYPES OF SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIVE PERFORMANCE THEATERS AND SCHOOL PROPERTIES. THE ITEM WE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS MAINLY INTENDED FOR ONE LOCATION DOWN IN THE HARBOR PIER AREA. HOWEVER, WE ALSO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD ALLOW THESE ON OTHER CITY PROPERTIES CITY WIDE, AND IT WOULD BE ELECTRONIC DISPLAYS THAT ARE PROGRAMMABLE. THE CITY COUNCIL DID PROVIDE STAFF WITH POLICY DIRECTION ON THIS ITEM TO LIMIT IT TO ONE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGN AT THE SUBJECT LOCATION OFF OF HARBOR DRIVE. ALSO TO ALLOW UP TO FOUR ELECTRONIC DIRECTORY SIGNS WITHIN THE PIER HARBOR AREA, THE COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED FOR STAFF TO CLARIFY WHICH COMMISSION WOULD SERVE AS THE DESIGN REVIEW AUTHORITY FOR THIS SIGN. ULTIMATELY, THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 18 HEARING, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. [03:05:05] GIVEN CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, STAFF EVALUATED THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AND THERE IS A SECTION UNDER THE SIGN CHAPTER ENTITLED SPECIAL DISTRICT SIGNS. WITHIN THAT SECTION, IT ADDRESSES THE HARBOR PIER AREA AS BEING ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL DISTRICTS. IN FACT, WITHIN THAT SECTION, THE LANGUAGE IDENTIFIES THAT THE HARBOR COMMISSION IS THE DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY WITHIN THE HARBOR PIER DISTRICT. BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITING IT TO THE ONE LOCATION, I THINK THAT CLARIFIES THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP BY THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST MEETING. NONETHELESS, WE HAVE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE CODE THAT ENSURES THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH THAT. WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS A NEW PROVISION WITHIN THAT SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICT PORTION OF THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ONE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGN AT THE LOCATION THAT I SHOWED YOU ON THE PHOTO. THEN ALSO FOR THE FOUR DIRECTORY SIGNS. WE SENT OUT A BLUE FOLDER ITEM EARLIER TODAY. I MADE SOME CORRECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT. IT ALSO MODIFIED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE TO THIS NEW SUBSECTION WITHIN THE SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICT. PORTION OF THE CODE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS NEW LANGUAGE WAS ADDED THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ONE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGN WITHIN THE HARBOR PIER AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF HARBOR DRIVE. SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE TO IT IS RATHER THAN JUST REFERENCING STANDARDS 3-12. WE DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT TO APPLICABLE STANDARDS BECAUSE THERE MAY BE CERTAIN STANDARDS WITHIN THAT AND MAY NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO THIS LOCATION. WE ALSO ADDED A STANDARD THAT THE DIRECTORY SIGNS CAN HAVE A DIGITAL DISPLAY. IT'S NO LARGER THAN FOUR BY SIX FEET IN SIZE, JUST TO PUT SOME PARAMETERS AROUND IT. THEN FINALLY, THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS EXEMPTED THOSE DIRECTORY SIGNS FROM DESIGN REVIEW. LOOKING A LITTLE CLOSER AT THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING AND WHAT WAS DELIBERATED. THE COUNCIL WAS CLEAR THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM HARBOR COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW OR PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT'S STILL SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW, WHICH WOULD BE A STAFF APPROVAL. THIS ENTIRE SECTION OF THE CODE IS NEW AND WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE AND THE HARBOR PIER AREA ONLY. THE PARTS THAT ARE UNDERLINED WHERE THE LATE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED AND HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE. THEN PERTAINING TO THE CORRECTION THAT I REFERENCED A MOMENT AGO. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT SUBSECTION F WITH UNDER PROHIBITED SIGNS IN CHAPTER 2 OF OUR CODE, HAD A BIT OF A CARRYOVER FROM ONE OF THE VERSIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ON THIS. SUBSECTION F CURRENTLY SAYS AUDIBLE SIGNS, EXCEPT IN CONNECTION WITH DRIVE UP WINDOWS ARE ONE OF THE PROHIBITED TYPES OF SIGNS. THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE HAVE CORRECTED THAT AND THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE STRIKEOUT WAS REALLY A BIT OF A DUPLICATE OF ONE OF THE OTHER PROHIBITIONS THAT'S IN THERE. THEN SOMEHOW IT INADVERTENTLY GOT MOVED DOWN TO F AND WAS DUPLICATED AND EVEN MODIFIED. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN CORRECTED WITH THE BE FOLDER ITEM. IN TERMS OF PROCEDURES, NUMBER 1 WOULD BE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE TESTIMONY AND DELIBERATE, TWO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THREE WOULD BE THE INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. WITH THAT, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS PER THE STAFF REPORTS, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. >> I HAVE ONE. I MAY NOT HOLY WELL, IT DOESN'T PERTAIN EXACTLY TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT THAT DISCUSSION ON DRIVE UP SIGNS, THOSE ARE ALLOWED, RIGHT? UNDER THE CODE. LIKE MCDONALD'S AUTOMATED SIGN FOR THEIR MENU AND TRANSACTION, IS THAT ALLOWED? >> IF IT'S LIKE THE ILLUMINATED SIGNS. >> THE DRIVE IN WINDOW THE SIGN GOES UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE MENU WHEN YOU ORDER SOMETHING. >> IF YOU GO BY STRICT APPLICATION OF THE CODE, ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGNS, IT INDICATES PROHIBITED. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SPEAKER IN [OVERLAPPING] >> CITY WIDE. BUT I THINK CLEARLY AND EVEN AS I WAS GOING AROUND TOWN, I SPOTTED ELECTRONIC DIRECTORY SIGN AT ONE LOCATION. [03:10:05] I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A FEW OUT THERE THAT HAVE JUST APPEARED OVER TIME. BUT IN GENERAL, THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE IS THOSE ELECTRONIC DISPLAY SIGNS AND AUDIBLE SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED. >> I JUST THINK TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ALL OVER THE CITY. I THINK THE INTENT IS TO LIMIT THE BIG GAUDY ONES THAT MIGHT DISTRACT YOU FROM DRIVING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHERE WE'RE IMPEDING BUSINESS, WHERE IT'S A COMMON PRACTICE LIKE DRIVE INS AND THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SEEMS WE NEED TO REINVESTIGATE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO TACKLE THAT TONIGHT. MY OTHER QUESTION IS WITH RESPECT TO THE CODE FOR THE HARBOR, THE FOUR WEIGHT FINDING SIGNS, WHAT A DIRECTORY SIGNS. ARE WE ALLOWING OR NOT ALLOWING AUTOMATION AT THIS TIME? >> NO, WE'RE KEEPING IT TO STATIC DISPLAY AS WHAT THE DIRECTION WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. >> BUT THE SIGNS ARE CAPABLE OF ANIMATION. THEY'RE CAPABLE OF. >> TOUCH SCREEN. >> TOUCH SCREENS AND THEY HAVE [OVERLAPPING] FEATURE. >> GOT IT. COME ON. MY PC IS DONE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR WIENER. I DID WANT TO MENTION IN THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY. THERE WAS A SERIOUS BREAKDOWN IN THE PRACTICE AND PROCEDURES AND SAFEGUARDS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AND SPECIFICALLY, THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITHOUT SHOWING RED LINES WAS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. NO ONE WOULD EVER HAVE KNOWN THAT HAD SOMEONE NOT LOOKED AT IT, AND I HAPPENED TO REVIEW IT AND CATCH IT, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON ME TO DO THAT. CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SAFEGUARDS YOU WILL HAVE IN PLACE TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE WE CAN'T APPROVE WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LEGISLATIVE ENACTMENT THAT NONE OF US ACTUALLY APPROVED AND HAVE THAT JUST SLIP THROUGH. >> SURE. >> VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. I KNOW YOU TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO ADDRESS IT. >> AS I SAID YOU THIS MORNING, IT WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU TAKING THE TIME TO CATCH THAT PROVISION. WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT IS REFERRING TO IS THAT SUBSECTION F THAT MARK IDENTIFIED HERE IN THE BLUE FOLDER CHANGE. THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION WAS COPIED DOWN INTO THE REDLINE DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED, AND IT APPEARED THAT IT WAS THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IN REALITY, IT WAS ONE OF THE DRAFTED PROVISIONS THAT HAD WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH, I THINK SOME OF THE SUGGESTED ORDINANCE CHANGES AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, I THINK IT WAS CORRECTED IN OTHER AREAS IN THE RED LINE, JUST NOT THAT PARTICULAR SUBSECTION, IT WAS CORRECT DOWN BELOW IN ANOTHER SUBSECTION OF THE RED LINE. CLEARLY A MISS. I'VE TALKED TO MARK ABOUT IT. I THINK HIS REVIEW WAS FOCUSED ON OTHER AREAS AND WAS WORKING OFF AN OLDER DRAFT. WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WILL ENSURE OCCURS IN THE FUTURE IS THAT WHENEVER WE DO AFTER WE FINALIZE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE CHANGES LIKE THIS, THAT WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE RED LINE IS TRULY PREDICATED ON THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. >> AND NOT NOT PREDICATED ON THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. >> NOT WORKING FROM A WORD DRAFT THAT MIGHT HAVE GONE THROUGH DIFFERENT ITERATIONS AS WE'RE PREPARING NEW PROPOSED ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IN A NEW DOCUMENT. SO I THINK THIS WAS A CLEAR ITEM THAT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK IN THE FUTURE, WORKING FROM EXISTING LANGUAGE AND CERTAINLY A LESSON LEARNED FOR OUR FOLKS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. APPRECIATE YOU FLAGGING THAT ISSUE. >> THAT'S THE DIRECTIVE GOING FORWARD THAT ALL REDLINES WILL BE MADE FROM EXISTING ORDINANCES SO THAT WHICH WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR WIENER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? >> NO. LOOKS GOOD. >> DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL DO THAT AFTER. >> NO MOTION YET. >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? THIS IS AND THE PORCH AGAIN. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU I STILL REMEMBER THE DAY WHEN I CAME TO NEW YORK CITY THE FIRST TIME AND I ENTERED TIME SQUARE AND ALL THE LIGHTS. IT WAS JUST LIKE THING I NEVER FORGET. I'M FOR LIGHTS. ONLY THING IS THAT THEY REMOVED THE RED LIGHTS, [03:15:05] THEY REMOVED NOT BLOOMBERG, WHAT WAS THE OTHER GUY? THE MAYOR REMOVED THE RED LIGHTS, AND THE LITTLE THEATERS. BUT I LIKE ALL THE LIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE AMERICA. ALSO, YOU COULD USE THAT FOR LIKE EMERGENCY PURPOSES LIKE, SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE CITY, THEN YOU CAN ADVERTISE, YOU DON'T GO HERE OR DON'T GO THERE OR DON'T DO THIS OR THIS HAPPENED IN THE CITY OR WHATEVER. IF IT'S ABOUT PUTTING UP THE LIGHT THERE, I'M FOR IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM. ANYONE ONLINE? >> YES. CANDACE NAFISSI. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, RESIDENTS OF REDONDO BEACH, CANDACE NAFISSI, IN DISTRICT 3. I HAVE TO SPEAK UNDER THIS SECTION SINCE MAYOR DECIDED IN PUBLIC COMMENT EARLY. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA OF WHAT AN ELECTRIC SIGN COULD BE, AND IT'D BE GREAT IF IT COULD SCROLL. WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS, AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE DISTRICT 1 RACE BETWEEN RALPH STRETENBURG, AND BRAD WALLER. THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IS CRITICAL TO THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. WE NEED AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO HAS THE CAPACITY TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND UPLIFT OUR CONCERNS AND TO POLICY. WE NEED AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO UNDERSTANDS A NEXUS BETWEEN ADDING HOUSING AND THE IMPACTS OF OUR SCHOOLS. WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN BE ACCOUNTABLE. CURRENTLY, OUR CLASS SIZES ARE UNREASONABLY LARGE. I'VE YET TO MEET A PARENT WHO SAYS OUR CLASS SIZES ARE ADEQUATE IN SIZE, DUE TO DECLINING ENROLLMENT, DECLINING BUDGETS, AND RBUSD NOT REPLACING TEACHERS WHO HAVE RETIRED OR LEFT. THIS HAS LEFT OUR CLASS SIZES LARGE. RALPH HAS SERVED AS A FIERCE ADVOCATE FOR THE BARREL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THROUGH TWO VERY INTENSE YEARS AS WE STRUGGLED THROUGH FIVE DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES, COUNTLESS BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, AND A MASS AS OF OUR TEACHERS. THIS IS THE ADVOCACY THAT WE NEED IN OUR CITY, SOMEONE WHO CAN LISTEN AND GUIDE US THROUGH RESIDENTS APPROPRIATELY. I'VE SERVED OVER SEVEN YEARS WITH BRAD WALLER. WHEN HE DECIDED TO SHOW UP TO GPAC MEETINGS, I'VE NEVER HEARD HIM UTTERED A WORD OF OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS, AND HE VOTED TO ADD HOUSING EVERY TIME IT WAS PRESENTED. SMALL CLASS SIZES SIMPLY WASN'T A PRIORITY FOR WALLER. THE BIGGEST INDICATOR OF WHAT A POLITICIAN WILL DO IS TO REVIEW HIS VOTES. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK UP HIS VOTES ON THE GENERAL PLANNING COMMITTEE AS ITS PUBLIC RECORD. IT TELLS A VERY PARTICULAR STORY THAT NEEDS NO EXPLANATION. PLEASE CONSIDER VOTING FOR FOR RALPH STRETENBURG FOR CITY COUNCIL OF DISTRICT 1. THANK YOU. >> FOR THE RECORD, I DIDN'T CUT OFF PUBLIC TESTIMONY EARLY. WE WERE WELL OVER 30 MINUTES WHEN I CUT IT OFF. THAT'S WHAT'S ANNOUNCED IN THE AGENDA. ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS AGENDA ITEM? >> SHEILA LAM. >> GO AHEAD, SHEILA. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> GREAT. SHEILA LAM, DISTRICT 4. IN REGARDS TO ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE ELECTRONIC SIGNS. EVEN CURRENTLY, WE ALL ARE NOW USING OUR PHONES FOR WAY FINDING. YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE. >> A STATEMENT WAS MADE TONIGHT THAT ELECTRONIC SIGNS WILL BECOME UBIQUITOUS AND THAT NOT HAVING THEM WOULD IMPEDE BUSINESS. THIS COULDN'T BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. AS WE AGAIN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, CELL PHONES WILL BE USED AND ELECTRONIC SIGNS WILL BE ARCHAIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. I THINK ANYBODY WHO'S GONE TO MCDONALD HAS SEEN ELECTRONIC SIGN, SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING ANYWHERE FOR A WHILE. ANYONE ELSE? >> THAT'S IT, AND THERE'S NO E COMMENTS. THANK YOU. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> I'M GOING TO MOVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL FOR IT? >> MOTIONS FROM COUNCIL. >> IF I CAN JUST INTERJECT ONE SECOND. THERE'S JUST A TYPO. IT SHOULD BE IN SECTION 105.18 15 SPECIAL DISTRICT SIGNS. SUBSECTION C4, THE PORTION THAT WAS REVISED AND INSERTED, IT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE STANDARDS. AN S INSTEAD OF STANDARD. >> CAN YOU READ IT OFF OF THE BLUEFOLDER VERSION? >> CORRECT. >> DOES IT HAVE THAT STANDARDS? >> IT SHOULD BE STANDARDS. NO. IN 105.1815. >> 1815? >> YEAH. IT'S THE COASTAL VERSION. NOT THE INLAND VERSION. [03:20:02] THE INLAND VERSION DOES HAVE AN S. IN THE COASTAL VERSION, THERE IS NO S. IT'S SINGULAR, SO IT SHOULD BE PLURAL. 10-218. THE COASTAL VERSION. >> YEAH. THE COASTAL VERSION. IT'S 10-51.815 SUBSECTION C4. IT SHOULD READ APPLICABLE STANDARDS. CURRENTLY, IT'S APPLICABLE STANDARD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN THE RIGHT. >> CAN WE GET A MOTION? WE'RE SITTING HERE. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THAT THEN, RIGHT? >> IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION. >> IT WOULD BE AS AMENDED PER THE FOLDER. [OVERLAPPING] >> GOT IT. I WILL APPROVE THE ELECTRONIC SIGN ORDINANCE [OVERLAPPING] AS AMENDED BY THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM GIVEN BY THIS AFTERNOON AND TAKEN IN. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> IN THE RESOLUTION, ALSO. >> THE RESOLUTION? >> YES. SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FOR? >> AYE. >> INTRODUCTION BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3291-25, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY REDONO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 10 CHAPTERS 2, ZONING ORDINANCE AND FIVE COASTAL LAND USE PLAN, IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE OF THE REDONO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGNS FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING AS AMENDED, ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2502-08. A RESOLUTE CITY COUNCIL CITY REDONO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING CERTIFICATION BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE COASTAL LAND USE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION ORDINANCE TITLE 10, CHAPTER 5 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGE DISPLAY SIGNS, CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE CARRIED OUT IN A MANNER FULLY IN CONFORMITY WITH THE COASTAL ACT AND PROVIDING THAT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM WILL TAKE EFFECT AUTOMATICALLY UPON COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVAL PURSUANT TO PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE SECTION 30514 IN TITLE 14, SECTION 13551 OF THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JUMPING TO ITEM N1, [N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] THIS IS THE MID YEAR BUDGET REVIEW. >> YES. WHILE STEPHANIE GETS ORGANIZED HERE, I'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS. THIS IS OUR TRADITIONAL MID YEAR REVIEW PROCESS. WE'RE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN WE HAVE BEEN THE PAST FEW YEARS AS PART OF THE FEBRUARY MEETING HERE. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE MID YEAR REPORTS VERY POSITIVE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LEAD WITH THAT. REVENUES CONTINUE TO TREND WELL. IN FACT, IN SOME AREAS, YOU'LL NOTICE, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF PROPERTY TAX AND RELATED PROPERTY TAX IN LIEU FEES, WE'RE PROPOSING SOME UPWARD REVISIONS TO OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES AS THEY ARE PERFORMING WELL AND WELL EXCEEDING OUR EXISTING BUDGETED FIGURES. WE'LL ALSO, AS WE TYPICALLY DO, UPDATE OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUND ALLOCATIONS, THAT'S A DEBIT AND CREDIT PROCESS. SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY FLOWS THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND VIA OVERHEAD. SOME OF IT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE BURDEN AS THINGS ARE ALLOCATED TO GENERALLY FUNDED DEPARTMENTS, AND IN SOME INSTANCES, IT BENEFITS THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND IN OTHER INSTANCES, IT ACCOUNTS FOR CHARGES AGAINST THOSE FUNDS THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED THROUGH OUR SPECIFIC FORMULA. THE NET NET OF IT ALL IS THAT OUR ESTIMATED YEAR END FUND BALANCE IS GROWING FROM WHERE WE WERE AS PART OF YEAR END CARRYOVER. THAT'S A GOOD THING, BUT I WILL STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE RESERVE AS MUCH, IF NOT ALL OF THAT MONEY AS POSSIBLE. WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL PRESSURES AS WE GO INTO THE 25/26 BUDGET PROCESS. WE HAVE UPCOMING UNFUNDED ACCRUED LIABILITY PAYMENTS AGAIN NEXT YEAR THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE BUDGET. WE ALSO HAVE PRESSURES EXISTING IN BOTH OUR HARBOR LANDS AND TIDE LANDS. OUR YEAR END BALANCES IN THOSE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES WILL LIKELY MIRROR BE SLIGHTLY IMPROVED FROM WHERE WE WERE AT THE END OF THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR. SO THOSE FUNDS WILL NEED HELP. THIS IS THE TYPE OF MONEY THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY DRAW FROM IN ORDER TO CLOSE ANY SUBSIDY GAPS THAT MIGHT EXIST IN THOSE TWO OPERATING AREAS AS THEY CONTINUE TO RECOVER. PLEASE PROCEED WITH CARE AND JUDICIOUSNESS. WE DO WANT TO BE PRUDENT AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET SEASON. AS A REMINDER AND YOU'LL RECEIVE A PRESENTATION TODAY FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, JESSE, IN PARTICULAR, REMINDING YOU OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, [03:25:03] PROVIDE A STATUS REPORT. WE'LL COVER THAT AT A HIGH LEVEL BASIS. THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF DECISION PACKAGES WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AGAIN, VERY TIGHTLY TO REFLECT THE TEMPO AND THEME AS WE'RE ANTICIPATING NEXT YEAR'S PRESSURE. THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY, AGAIN, VERY POSITIVE, REVENUES ARE STRONG, EXPENDITURES ARE COMING IN AT BUDGET OR UNDER SO WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING LARGE CHANGES THERE. BY ALL SUMMARIZED ACCOUNTS, IT'S A GOOD MID YEAR REVENUE REPORT, BUT TO LEAVE IT THERE AND TO NOT HIGHLIGHT AND SIGNIFY SOME OF THE LOOMING ISSUES I THINK WOULD BE A MISTAKE ON MY PART. WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE AND SHE'LL COVER THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE JESSE COME UP AND PRESENT ON THE STATUS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'LL TRY AND GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY. I THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY HIT QUITE A FEW OF THE HIGH POINTS SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS WITH YOU AS WELL. CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE CITY'S REVENUES AND HOW THEY'RE COMING IN. WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS OUR ADOPTED BUDGET REVENUES, AND WE'RE SHOWING THE RESULTS OF OUR PROPOSED REVISIONS. WE'RE PROPOSING INCREASES IN PROPERTY TAXES AND OUR INTERNAL SERVICES REVENUE CHARGES. AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, IT'S LARGELY GOOD NEWS. OUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN AS ANTICIPATED. WE DID LOOK AT ALL OF OUR MAJOR TAX CATEGORIES TO COME UP WITH THE PROPOSED REVISIONS WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT. WE'LL JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER LOOK AT TAXES FOR YOU. AS I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THIS IS OUR LARGEST SINGLE REVENUE SOURCE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE HERE, WE HAVE OUR 23/24 ACTUAL ADOPTED BUDGET, AND THE RESULT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES WE'RE MAKING. IF YOU'LL NOTICE OUR 24/25 BUDGET WAS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE JUST 2.2% INCREASE OVER WHAT WE RECEIVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR. WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, WE'RE AT CLOSE TO 5% OVER WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR, AND THERE ARE TWO MAJOR REASONS FOR THIS. ONE IS THE INCREASE TO OUR PROPERTY TAX AND PROPERTY TAX IN LIEU. THESE ARE BASED ON PROJECTIONS FROM OUR PROPERTY TAX CONSULTANT AND OUR REVISED ASSESSED VALUATION, WHICH INCREASED BY 5.24% IN 24/25. THE SECOND BIG ONE, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER IS OUR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM OUR MARINE AVENUE HOTELS COMING ONLINE AT THE SECOND PART OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE THINK THIS IS A STILL REASONABLE AND VERY REASONABLE ESTIMATE FOR THE REVENUES THAT WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THIS YEAR. WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT OUR SPENDING HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THIS WAS A GOOD NEWS VIEW FOR US AS WELL. AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING YOU HERE THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THE RESULTS OF OUR REVIEW THAT YOU APPROVED AT YEAR END WITH THE CARRYOVER, AND THEN OUR PROPOSED EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING SOME MEDIA REVISIONS. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR ACTUAL SPENDING TO DATE, AND IT IS DEFINITELY IN LINE WITH PROJECTIONS. IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR PERSONNEL COSTS FOLLOWING THE RECENT APPROVED MOU INCREASES, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE ARE STILL WITHIN AND LARGELY BELOW BUDGET. ACTUALLY RAN OUR REPORTS SHORTLY BEFORE COMING TO THIS MEETING, AND JUST NOW TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, WE'RE A LITTLE OVER 50% IN OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE AT THIS MOMENT. AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING HERE SOME INCREASES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN THE DECISION PACKAGES. WE HAVE A LITTLE UNDER $200,000 IN OUR CONTRACTS AND SERVICES LINE ITEM, AND THE REMAINDER ARE INCREASES FOR OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. WE'LL GO INTO THOSE IN MORE DETAIL. AGAIN, HERE ARE JUST WALK THROUGH RECOMMENDED CHANGES. AGAIN, IN REVENUE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY TAX A LITTLE BIT ALREADY. AGAIN, THESE ARE THE RESULT OF REVISED OR THEY'RE THE RESULT OF OUR REVISED FORECAST WE GET FROM HDL. WE ALSO HAVE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS IN OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES CATEGORY, OUR POLICE AND FIRE REPORTED BRINGING IN MUCH HIGHER THAN EXPECTED REVENUE FOR OUR PARKING METER FEES AND FOR THE AMBULANCE FEES THAT WE GET THROUGH MCCORMICK. THAT'S ABOUT A $400,000 INCREASE. WE ALSO ARE BRINGING ABOUT A $400,000 [03:30:02] DECREASE IN OUR RECREATION AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. WE EXPECT THAT THIS IS ONE TIME, NOT AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD, BUT THIS IS A RESULT OF SOME CHALLENGES WITH HIRING QUICKLY ENOUGH TO FILL ADDITIONAL CLASSES THAT WE THAT WE EXPECTED TO FILL THIS YEAR. AGAIN, THESE OFFSET, THERE'S A VERY MINOR NET CHANGE AND WE DO NOT EXPECT THE DECREASE GOING FORWARD. THEN FINALLY, WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE RELATED TO OUR INTERNAL SERVICES REVENUE. IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE SEE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE OVERHEAD, WHICH IS THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS CHARGE CITYWIDE. THIS IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE. OUR TOTAL GENERAL RECOMMENDED REVENUE CHANGES ARE CLOSE TO 3.5 MILLION. WE HAVE, AS CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, VERY LIMITED DECISION PACKAGES FOR YOU THIS EVENING AND BOTH ARE SUPPORTED BY REVENUE INCREASES. THE FIRST ONE JUST REFLECTS THE ADDITIONAL USE OF CREDIT CARDS WITH OUR PARKING METERS. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE WITH OUR FEE INCREASES, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE'VE ALSO INCURRED ADDITIONAL CREDIT CARD COSTS SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN APPROPRIATION TO COVER THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES. THEN IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, COUNCIL APPROVED DURING THE 24/25 BUDGET A TECHNOLOGY AND TRAINING SURCHARGE FEE AND THIS IS TO COVER SOME REQUIRED TRAININGS FOR STAFF, THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP CERTIFICATIONS, WHICH PREVIOUSLY WERE UNBUDGETED, THE I WORK ONLINE PERMITTING SYSTEM, AND SOME ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE. WE WERE ABLE TO BEGIN CHARGING THIS FEE, AND AS OF MID YEAR HAD BROUGHT IN MORE THAN 60% OF THE PROPOSED REVENUE. WE FEEL CONFIDENT BRINGING FORWARD THIS APPROPRIATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING. IN TOTAL, OUR GENERAL FUND DECISION PACKAGES ARE JUST OVER 150,000. IN OTHER FUNDS, WE HAVE TWO OTHER DECISION PACKAGES. THE FIRST ONE WITH NO NET INCREASE TO OUR SOLID WASTE FUND IS THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING EVERY YEAR. THIS IS RELATED TO THE ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENT AND REFLECTS THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS FINDS EACH YEAR WHEN THEY DO THE RATE ANALYSIS. AGAIN, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE OFFSET, IT'S LITTLE OVER 68,000. THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 IN OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY FUND TO HELP DEAL WITH HOUSING RELATED COMPLAINTS. NET FOR DECISION PACKAGES IS JUST THIS $25,000. I'LL THEN GO TO OUR FAVORITE, VERY EXCITING TOPIC, OUR INTERNAL SERVICES FUNDS. NOW IF YOU REMEMBER OUR DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THIS LAST YEAR, BUT THIS SHOWS EACH ONE OF OUR PLANS WITH OUR 23/24 NUMBERS, CURRENT NUMBERS, AND PERCENTAGE INCREASES. YOU WILL SEE INCREASES BASICALLY ACROSS THE BOARD IN THESE PLANS. THESE ARE ANTICIPATED INCREASES AND REFLECT THE CYCLICAL NATURE OF THESE CONTRIBUTIONS. I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYONE. BUILDING OCCUPANCY, THIS INCREASE IS DRIVEN ALMOST 100% BY ENERGY COSTS, WHICH WENT UP 14% IN 23/24. OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS FUND. THIS INCREASE IS ACTUALLY DRIVEN BY A CORRECTION THAT WE HAD TO MAKE TO LAST YEAR'S CALCULATION. THIS IS WITH OUR CONSULTANT, THEIR SOFTWARE HAD AN ERROR THAT EXCLUDED SOME COSTS WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED LAST YEAR. WE'RE CATCHING UP A BIT ON THIS ONE. THIS IS AN ITEM WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING SMOOTHING THE INCREASE OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO AVOID A LARGE HIT TO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO LOOKING AT THE COST FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS FEEL THAT THIS IS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT WITH OUR EXISTING FUND BALANCE TO COVER OUR NEEDS. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. SIMILARLY, WE'VE HAD A FEW YEARS OF LARGE EXPENSES AS OUR IT DIRECTOR HAS CAUGHT UP WITH REPLACING A LARGE AMOUNT OF CITY EQUIPMENT. AGAIN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING PHASING THIS OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO AVOID THE HIT TO THE GENERAL FUND AND SIMILAR TO EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS. WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE NEXT TWO YEARS WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER NEEDS. IN THE FUTURE, WE DO EXPECT TO SEE LOWER NEEDS AS WE'RE REPLACING OUR HARDWARE AND IN MANY CASES, SWITCHING TO SUBSCRIPTIONS, WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE A DIFFERENT REPLACEMENT COST. OUR OVERHEAD, THIS INCREASE IS DRIVEN ALMOST ENTIRELY BY [03:35:01] OUR PERSONNEL COST INCREASES AND THEN JUST MINOR INCREASES IN OTHER AREAS. OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE REPAIR, YOU'LL SEE HAS A VERY SMALL INCREASE THIS YEAR. THIS IS FOLLOWING A LARGER INCREASE LAST YEAR AND THIS REFLECTS A SLIGHT DECREASE ACTUALLY IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'LL NEED TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. WE DO ANTICIPATE A FEW YEARS OF HIGHER INCREASES IN THIS FUND, AND THIS WOULD BE TO CATCH UP WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FUNDED IN ADVANCE OF THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY IN THE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE, INCLUDING THE FIRE ENGINES THAT WE'VE PURCHASED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. FINALLY, I REALIZE I JUMPED OVER SELF INSURANCE. AGAIN, THIS INCREASE IS DUE ALMOST ENTIRELY TO INCREASES IN LIABILITY AND PROPERTY CLAIMS AND WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIMS. THOSE WENT UP IN 23/24 BY 21% AND 14% RESPECTIVELY. WE WILL DISCUSS WITH OUR ACTUARIES AND WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TO SEE WHAT WE THINK THOSE EXPENSES WILL LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE COSTS THAT WE ANTICIPATED FOLLOWING LAST YEAR'S LOWER CONTRIBUTION IN THAT AREA. I'LL JUST NOTE TOO THAT THESE ARE FOR ALL FUNDS. >> TO RECAP, THE RECOMMEND SPENDING CHANGES FOR THE GENERAL FUND ARE UP HERE FOR A TOTAL OF ROUGHLY $2.6 MILLION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADDING TO OUR BUDGET AT THIS POINT. THIS BRINGS US TO OUR ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE. WE HAD ESTIMATED BEFORE THIS MEDIA REVIEW ABOUT $1.5 MILLION FUND BALANCE. YOU SEE OUR CHANGES HERE AND REVISED ESTIMATED BALANCE OF CLOSE TO 2.3 MILLION. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JESSE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JESSE RAY IS CIP MANAGER. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF HIGH LEVEL UPDATE OF THE CIP PROGRAM, WHERE WE ARE IN CURRENT FISCAL YEAR HALFWAY THROUGH IT. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 120 TOTAL PROJECTS IN OUR CIP PROGRAM. WE HAVE SEVEN CATEGORIES IN OUR CIP, THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. STREET IMPROVEMENTS AS ALWAYS, IS BY FAR THE LARGEST CATEGORY THAT WE HAVE AND OUR HIGHEST DRIVER OF PRODUCTIVITY. CURRENTLY TO DATE, WE HAVE COMPLETED 18 CIPS AS OF FEBRUARY 13TH 2025, THAT'S VERY PRODUCTIVE. I'D SAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I DIDN'T PUT ALL THE PROJECTS HERE, BUT ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS TO THIS ITEM WAS ALL THE PROJECTS THAT BEEN COMPLETED, THOSE THAT ARE IN DESIGN, THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCUREMENT AND THOSE THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION. JUST TO KNOW, THIS YEAR, WE ADDED A TOTAL OF 18 PROJECTS THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS. AGAIN, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR CIP PROJECT SUMMARY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 20 CIPS IN DESIGN, 12 IN PROCUREMENT, 11 IN CONSTRUCTION, AND THOSE 18 THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. OUR EXPENDITURES TO DATE, $12.1 MILLION, YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE. IT'S TRACKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. TO NOTE, SOME OF THOSE COMPLETED PROJECTS ARE THE PROJECTS THAT THE COUNCIL LISTED AS THEIR PRIORITY PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THE PAVERS INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK, RIVIERA VILLAGE PAVERS AS WELL, AND THE OTHER ONES WE HAVE ALSO IN PROCESS, WILDERNESS PARK, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE APPROVED THAT DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN ON THE MOBILITY HUB, PD SHOOTING RANGE AND FRANKLIN PARK ARE IN PROCESS, AND ANDERSON SCOUT HOUSE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL. >> AWESOME. >> IS THERE A QUESTION? >> I JUST SAID AWESOME. >> OH, OKAY. >> GOOD JOB. THANKS. >> LASTLY, FIVE YEAR HISTORY, JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE A SNAPSHOT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. KEY THING TO NOTE HERE IS THE GROWTH OF THE PROGRAM OVER TIME. YOU'LL SEE THAT EXPENDITURE SPIKE IN FISCAL YEAR 22-23 FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT WAS LARGELY DUE TO THE TRANSIT CENTER DURING THAT YEAR, AND A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAD IN DESIGN ACTUALLY CAME INTO CONSTRUCTION. THAT PRODUCTIVITY WAS CARRIED ON UNTIL LAST YEAR, WHERE YOU'LL SEE 23-24 ACTUALLY SPIKED AT OUR HIGHEST $24.5 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES WITH 25 COMPLETED PROJECTS. [03:40:04] OUT OF THAT $24.5 MILLION, IT WAS REALLY EIGHT PROJECTS THAT DROVE 60% OF THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES. AS I MENTIONED, $12.1 MILLION TO DATE AND EXPENDITURES, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO REACH THAT $24.5 MILLION THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY TRACKING SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THAT $20 MILLION RANGE AS WELL. THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. THE ATTACHMENT, I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU GUYS HAD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROJECTS, HAPPY TO ANSWER. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, NURSING ENGINEER HERE AS WELL. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ON THIS SLIDE. I KNOW YOU JUST SAID YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE GETTING THE 24 MILLION EXPENDITURE, BUT HOW DO YOU SEE THE NUMBERS, THE 18, THE 11, AND THE 20 CHANGING BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE APPROACHING WHAT WE DID IN 23-24 OR? >> I THINK HE'S ASKING, WHAT ARE WE TRACKING COMPLETED PROJECTS? >> I'D SAY COMPLETED PROJECTS, PROBABLY TRACKING TO 23-24. PROJECTS COMING INTO CONSTRUCTION, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT 30 FROM THE CURRENTLY 11 AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS OUT TO BID AT THIS POINT. WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL COME INTO CONSTRUCTION, MAYBE ANOTHER HANDFUL COME INTO CONSTRUCTION THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT'LL DEPEND ON THE SCHEDULING. >> WHAT ABOUT DESIGN? >> DESIGN. TWENTY IS PROBABLY WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CAPACITY, WITH OUR STAFFING RESOURCES, WHERE WE CAN REALISTICALLY ATTAIN AND KEEP THAT NUMBER AND GET THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PRE DESIGN INTO DESIGN WHEN SOME OF THOSE ENTER INTO PROCUREMENT AND CONSTRUCTION. >> THAT'S WHAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY IN DESIGN, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CONTRACTOR OR OR STAFF IS ACTUALLY IN DESIGN FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S NOT THE PRE DESIGN PHASE. >> NOT THE PLANNING PHASE, BUT IN SOME DESIGN PHASE. SOME OF IT IS CONCEPTUAL. FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF OUR REGIONAL MEASURE M PROJECTS, THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY OUT ON AVIATION, WE HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK AND WORKING WITH CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND WORKING WITH MANHATTAN BEACH. WE CONSIDER THAT IN A DESIGN PHASE. IT'S ON THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT, BUT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT DESIGN. >> OKAY. I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON THE SEMANTICS ON THAT BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE WHEN WE DO THAT, WHEN WE LUMP THE PRE DESIGN, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE DESIGN TO GO THROUGH, PEOPLE HAVE UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT DIFFERENTIATING. >> IT'S A GOOD POINT. WE MAY WANT TO DO TWO DIFFERENT DESIGN CATEGORIES. BECAUSE SOME OF THAT DESIGN MIGHT INCLUDE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AND FEASIBILITY WORK THAT MAY NOT ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A CONSTRUCTION PLAN SET. WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE ADDING A 1A, 1B DESIGN CATEGORY. >> I KNOW, LIKE ON HARBOR COMMISSION WE USED TO GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS IN DESIGN, AND WE LEAVE A DESIGN CONTRACT, AND THAT WAS ANOTHER TWO YEARS. YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE ALREADY DESIGNING IT, AND WE NEED TO GET THE SEMANTICS UNDERSTANDABLE BY US AND BY THE PUBLIC AND BY OUR COMMISSIONERS SO THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING THROUGH THIS AND DON'T SET UP FALSE EXPECTATIONS. I THINK ALSO GETTING SCHEDULES ON THESE PROJECTS, BROAD SCHEDULES WOULD WOULD HELP TOWARDS THAT, TOO. >> THEN WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE SLIDES, I THINK, UNLESS YOU'VE GOT ANY OTHER CIP QUESTIONS. AS THIS AGENDA ITEM MENTIONED, THERE ARE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE DIRECTED OUR WAY FOR MID YEAR CONSIDERATION. WE BELIEVE WE'VE CAPTURED ALL 17 OF THOSE THAT HAVE COME IN. THERE ARE SOME BRRS THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO THE 25-26 BUDGET CYCLE, WHICH WILL BE COMING NEXT MAY AND JUNE. BUT THESE ARE THE 17 THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THEM. I WILL POINT OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY ONE ITEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE, IF POSSIBLE, TONIGHT, SOME GENERAL DIRECTION ON IS THE JULY 4TH FIREWORKS CELEBRATION COST ANALYSIS. WE'VE HAD SOME UPDATED FIGURES FROM OUR DIFFERENT VENDORS. THEY'RE IN ONE CASE, QUITE ALARMING. THE BARGE FIGURE IN PARTICULAR FOR THE FIREWORK SHOW THIS YEAR, COMING IN WELL OVER $100,000 IS VERY DISCONCERTING, IN PART, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT HAS OTHERWISE, FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEEN A FAIRLY FLUSH HARBOR TIDELANDS RESOURCE TO HELP ABSORB THAT COST. BUT IRRESPECTIVE OF THAT, THE TOTAL PROJECT EXPENSES ARE ESTIMATED AT ROUGHLY $200,000 OR [03:45:01] MORE TO HOST THE SHOW IN THE TRADITIONAL HARBOR LOCATION. SOME GENERAL DIRECTION ON WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD WITH THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE SPECIFIC PROGRAMMATIC DECISION IN QUESTION TONIGHT. BUT ONE POIGNANT THING IS, ARE WE COMMITTED TO HAVING A FIREWORK SHOW AGAIN THIS YEAR, WHICH EVEN ON A LAND BASED CALCULATION IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $100,000 EFFORT. WE WOULD LIKE THAT DIRECTION EARLY SO WE CAN EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH GARDEN STATE FIREWORKS, CONTINUE THAT PROCESS, NOT GET BEHIND THE CURVE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE'RE FLAGGING THIS ISSUE FOR YOU EARLY. >> DO WE NEED TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY? >> YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO THAT TONIGHT, WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT AS A FOUR-PHASE ITEM. BUT WE JUST GENERALLY NEED SOME DIRECTION TO SAY, IN THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, DO WE WANT TO PURSUE THE TRADITIONAL HARBOR SHOW AND BE PREPARING FOR A $200,000 EXPENDITURE? DO WE WANT TO PREPARE FOR A LAND BASED SHOW THAT MIGHT BE MORE AROUND $100,000 OR SO? THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF HIGH LEVEL DIRECTIONS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO GET TONIGHT IF YOU'VE GOT THE BANDWIDTH FOR IT. BUT OBVIOUSLY, ANY OTHER ITEM THAT'S LISTED HERE ON THESE 17 BRRS, WE'RE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO IN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO HELP PREPARE THOSE ITEMS ARE ALSO HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THEN I GUESS THE FINAL SLIDE. >> I HAD JUST ONE MORE SLIDE. WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR YOU. FIRST ONE IS TO RETAIN OUR ESTIMATED YEAR END ON ALLOCATED FUND BALANCES. DON'T NEED TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN. WE JUST SEE A LOT OF NEEDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 -6. WE'RE ABOUT TO GO RIGHT INTO THAT BUDGET PREPARATION. I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF TIME TO CONSIDER HOW TO USE THESE FUNDS, AND THIS WILL BE A GOOD TIME TO HOLD ON TO THOSE. THE REMAINING ACTIONS, RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT AND BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS AND JESSE'S PRESENTATION, AND ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE RESOLUTION. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. I'LL START. THERE'S TWO OF THE BRRS. THE TOT AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? OH, THE TOT AND THE PARKING STICKERS. WE COULD DO THE PRO RATING OF THE PARKING STICKERS OR PERMITS, THAT'S NO IMPACT ON THE BUDGET, CORRECT? >> NO IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. WHAT I DO NEED TO DO THOUGH SEQUENTIALLY IS BRING BACK TO YOU AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, A MASTER FEE SCHEDULE CHANGE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR PRO RATION OF THE AMOUNT. >> WE CAN'T DO THAT. >> WE SHOULD UPDATE THAT RESOLUTION TO REFLECT A PRO RATED AMOUNT. >> YOU NEED THAT DIRECTION TONIGHT? IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT COLLECTIVELY, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER. >> THEN ALLOWS US TO PREPARE FOR THAT CHANGE. >> THEN THE TOT ONE THAT REQUIRES GOING TO A VOTE TO THE PEOPLE. >> THERE'S SEVERAL STEPS WITH THAT ITEM. >> WE COULD START THE BALL ROLLING AT LEAST. >> YOU COULD DIRECT US TO BRING BACK A MORE FORMAL ITEM TO CONSIDER. THE NEXT ACTION THERE WOULD BE A DISCUSSION ON THE STEPS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION. MUCH LIKE WE DID YOU MIGHT RECALL EARLY ON WITH MEASURE FP, WHERE WE LAID OUT FOR YOU, HOW IT WORKS, WHAT RESOLUTIONS NEED TO BE APPROVED, WHAT'S THE TIMING, WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE? IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PURSUE THAT, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DIRECT US TO CONSIDER? >> WELL, WHEN WOULD YOU ADVISE WOULD YOU PREFER TO GET THAT DIRECTION? I THINK THE SOONER WE DO IT, THE SOONER WE GET. >> THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT. THE SOONER YOU DO IT, THE SOONER WE HAVE THE REVENUE AVAILABLE TO US, AND IT'S MONEY THAT WE CAN USE AND BUILD INTO OUR FUTURE BUDGETS AND HELP SMOOTH OUT COSTS OVER TIME, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE REALITY THAT IT DOES POSE AN IMPACT TO US IN THE MARKETPLACE. THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO INDEX THAT TYPE OF REVENUE SOURCE TO PERHAPS A MORE CRITICAL OR IDENTIFIED EXPENDITURE INTO THE FUTURE, AT LEAST REVENUE BONDS, OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT REQUIRE TAX INCREMENT TO SUPPORT IT. ALL SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT TO ME ARE WORTH CONSIDERATION, AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO YOUR COLLECTIVE OPINION ON WHAT THE BALANCE IS. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEFICIT IN THE HARBOR. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THE SOONER WE BRING IN THE MONEY, THE BETTER AND LET FUTURE COUNCILS FIGURE OUT WHERE TO ALLOCATE IT, BUT WE'RE NOT FLUSHING CASH RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE BELOW MARKET. THE OTHER ONES I'M INTERESTED IN, THE VETERANS PARK PLAQUES, I'VE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF COMMENTS. WHEN ARE WE REPLACING THOSE? BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GONE FOR A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME NOW AND PEOPLE WHO PAID HAVE THEIR NAMES UP THERE ARE COMPLAINING. THE APPROPRIATE THE PARKING PERMITS I JUST TALKED ABOUT. [03:50:02] TO AT LEAST GET A DECISION FROM THE COUNCIL ANAQUEL HAS REQUESTED WAIVER OF THEIR FEES SO THAT THEY CAN DONATE TO THE FIRE VICTIMS. I KNOW THERE'S REPERCUSSIONS WITH THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST GET A COUNCIL DECISION BECAUSE THEIR EVENT IS THIS WEEKEND. THE REST I'M OPEN ON. WITH THAT, ANYONE FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BOJI, YOU'RE UP. >> THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS REPORT. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHETHER THE MARINE AVENUE HOTELS HAVE STARTED PRODUCE? >> THEY'RE ON SCHEDULE. WE HAVEN'T ANALYZED YET THEIR DECEMBER INVOICE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE REAL TRIGGER FOR US AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE FULLY ON SCHEDULE. I THINK WE'LL BE EVALUATING THAT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. I WILL SAY WE HAVE BROUGHT ON THE FIRM THAT THE COUNCIL HIRED RECENTLY TO HELP BEGIN THAT AUDIT PROCESS FOR US. I BELIEVE WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING, STEPHANIE, AND WE'VE ENGAGED THEIR SERVICES. WE PASSED ON DOCUMENTATION THEM AS WELL, TOO. THAT'S IN MOTION. I THINK STEPHANIE CAN CONFIRM THIS. WE ARE FORECASTING TOT AT THE RATE FROM THOSE HOTELS OVER THE COURSE OF FISCAL YEAR THAT WE HAD EXPECTED AS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET. >> AWESOME. I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK, SOME OF THE IDEAS I HAD AFTER DISCUSSING SOME OF THIS WITH COUNCILMEMBER BARON. IF YOU CAN LIGHT UP 3A AGAIN, PLEASE. >> ALL 16 BRRS COME BACK IN '25-'26 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER. THOSE WILL BE THE FIRST 16 BRRS FOR '25-'26. [OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THAT? >> FOR A RECORD THIS YEAR, MAYBE WE HAVE 100, I'M KIDDING. [LAUGHTER] >> HOPEFULLY NOT. APPROVE ALL DECISION PACKAGES. WE'VE HEARD FROM SPEAKERS WHO'VE COME HERE ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK FLOOR UP THERE, THE CEILING ABOVE THOSE SHOPS. [INAUDIBLE], ARE YOU READING THE WHOLE LIST? >> A LITTLE BIT. [OVERLAPPING] I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> MAYBE ADDING IT TO THE CIP WITHOUT FUNDING, BUT JUST PUTTING IT ON THERE. I'M NOT TRYING TO ALLOCATE A BUNCH OF MONEY HERE. BRR NUMBER 3, $25,000 FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS AT ARTESIA AND THE NORTH REDONDO BIKE PATH, AS WELL AS AT INGLEWOOD AND GRANT AVENUE, THOSE HAVE BEEN RESIDENT REQUESTS TIME AND AGAIN. HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HEAR FROM SOME RESIDENTS EITHER ON ZOOM OR OTHERWISE. BRR 11, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT NOW BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE VETERANS, BUT IF YOU ALL WANT TO WAIT TILL THE REGULAR BUDGET, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. THEN ON BRR NUMBER 4, I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE A DECISION PACKAGE COME '25-'26 BUDGET THAT ALLOWS US TO PRORATE THE PARKING MONTHLY. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY HAVING A HUMAN INTERACTION TO GET THEIR PARKING PERMIT, THE HUMAN INTERACTION IS SUBTRACTING A MONTH OUT. >> WE'LL EVALUATE WHAT WE NEED INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ADMINISTER THAT. BUT I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE JUST AN UPDATE TO MASTER FEE SCHEDULE THAT REFLECTS NOT JUST AN ANNUAL PERMIT FEE, BUT ONE THAT CAN BE PRORATED. >> ON BRR 14, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AT THE COG THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AIRBNBS, AND THE LIKE ACTUALLY REDUCED AFFORDABILITY BECAUSE THEY MAKE HOUSING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR MONTHLY RENTAL ONLY AVAILABLE ON A DAILY BASIS AND MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. GENERALLY, WE WANTED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION ITEM ON THIS RELATIVE TO WHETHER WE WANT TO CHANGE TOT, WHETHER WE WANT TO START ENFORCING AGAINST AIRBNB. IT'S NOT ON A COMPLAINT BASIS, BUT ON A BLANKET BASIS. WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM THE GALLERIA, STUART MILLER, THAT INCREASING THE TOT RIGHT NOW WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO GET A HOTEL IN THERE, AND THAT WAS THE LAST THING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. LOOKING AT THE RATES IN HAWTHORNE IN TORRANCE, WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSISTENT WITH THEM, BUT IF WE WENT ABOVE THEM, THAT COULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO GET A HOTEL. QUERY WHETHER WE COULD ACTUALLY ADJUST TOT DIFFERENTIALLY IN THE COASTAL ZONE VERSUS THE NON-COASTAL ZONE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE AN INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, INCLUDING HOW MUCH OF THE TOT ACTUALLY FLOWS TO THE TIDELANDS, SEEING AS WE'RE IN A TIDELANDS' HERDING SPOT RIGHT NOW. >> ONE THING I'LL SAY AS IT PERTAINS TO AIRBNB, WE ARE STEPPING UP OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WE'RE PREPARING A LETTER THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS CURRENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY, [03:55:03] NOT JUST THE RESIDENCES THEMSELVES HERE IN REDONDO BEACH, BUT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WHEREVER THEY MIGHT RESIDE. GIVEN WHAT'S OCCURRED WITH THE REGIONAL FIRES, THE NUMBER OF REFUGEES, THE NEED FOR LONGER TERM HOUSING FOR FOLKS LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS A WIN-WIN FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT OWN THOSE PROPERTIES TO PUT POTENTIALLY VERY NEEDY RESIDENTS INTO THOSE HOMES, USE THAT HOUSING STOCK WITH A LITTLE MORE VALUE LONG TERM, AND ULTIMATELY HELP FOLKS OUT. [OVERLAPPING] WHAT IT COULD DO WITH THAT IS IT MAY FORCE THOSE FOLKS WHO DO PARTICIPATE CURRENTLY ILLEGALLY IN THE VRBO PROCESS MIGHT DIRECT THEM TOWARDS OUR HOTELIERS, WHICH I THINK COULD END UP BEING A WIN-WIN FOR ALL PARTIES. WE ARE DOING THAT FROM ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CODE IS PROPERLY ENFORCED. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THAT PROCESS IS HAPPENING AND THAT'S IN PART BEEN MOTIVATED BY THE RECENT FIRES. >> AWESOME. THANK YOU. I'D FAVOR BRR 15 GOING WITH THE LAND-BASED FIREWORK SHOW AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IF WE CAN DO THAT. BRR 16, NOT IN A RUSH TO DO THIS, BUT WOULD MURALIZING THE INTERSECTIONS, WOULD THAT BE JOHN PARSONS FUND ELIGIBLE? MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THE BRR. [OVERLAPPING] >> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE JOHN PARSONS ELIGIBLE. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY DISCRETIONARY MONEY QUITE YET IN THAT FUND. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT OVERDRAWN, AT LEAST, FROM A SCHEDULING STANDPOINT. >> THEN MAYBE TO THE RESIDENT'S POINT WHO SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT GRANT AVENUE, THAT MAYBE YOU COULD REPAVE JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRE LANE, THE ACTUAL ROADWAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING, THAT'S THE MOST DAMAGE ON IT. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? NOT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT NOW, BUT AS WE LOOK TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO REPAVE IT. >> WE COULD BEGIN TO PROVIDE ESTIMATES ON THE HOLISTIC COST ASSOCIATED WITH A PHASED APPROACH AND MAYBE WHAT SOME OF THE IMPACTS ARE. IT CAN BE DONE. YOU'LL SEE UTILITIES DO THIS ALL THE TIME WHERE THEY'LL PERFORM TRENCH CUTS FOR SOME TYPE OF A WATER REPAIR, AND THEN THEY'LL DO ONE FULL LANE OF PAVING OR ONE HALF OF A LANE. IT CAN BE DONE, AND IT CAN BE DONE WITH SOME QUALITY. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO MANAGE THAT TYPE OF A REPAVING, BUT I DO THINK IT'S POSSIBLE. >> THEN THERE WAS A BRR ABOUT PALOS VERDES BOULEVARD TO BIKE LANE. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN NEHRENHEIM WANTS TO ADVANCE THAT, BUT WHAT I'D SAY IS WE KNOW THAT THE COG HAS A LOT OF MEASURE M MONEY FOR MICROMOBILITY PROJECTS, AND SO MAYBE WE COULD APPLY FOR MEASURE M FUNDING FOR DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT IF COUNCILMAN NEHRENHEIM WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> THANK YOU. THANKS, STEPHANIE. THANKS, JESSE. WE GO BACK TO THE DECISION PACKAGES. GETTING ONTO THE DECISION. >> BRR LIST. [OVERLAPPING] >> SORRY, BRR LIST. >> SORRY. >> WRONG TERMINOLOGY. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS INCREASING THE TOT SO WE CAN FUND LEASE REVENUE BONDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, SO ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE THE HARBOR, SEAWALL. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY COULD BE ALONG ARTESIA OR OTHER AREAS IN NORTH REDONDO THAT NEED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE FUTURE COUNCIL TO FIGURE THIS OUT. BUT I THINK WE SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF 400,000, WHAT WAS IT? FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS EQUAL TO ABOUT 10 MILLION. [OVERLAPPING] >> FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND STRUCTURES. >> ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. [OVERLAPPING] HALF A MILLION GETS TO SERVICE $10 MILLION. I THINK THAT WHOEVER THE NEXT COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK SERIOUSLY AT THAT. I KNOW WHEN I MAKE DECISIONS ON WHERE I'M GOING TO STAY EVEN IF IT'S FOR COMPANIES. COMPANY PAID 2%, 1% IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I LOOK AT THE LOWEST RATE AND EVEN IF IT ADDS AN EXTRA FOUR DOLLARS, IT'S A $200 NIGHT AT A HOTEL. I'M NOT SWAYED BY THEM, SWAYED BY LOCATION, HOW MODERN IT IS, ETC. I'M NOT SWAYED BY A COUPLE DOLLARS HERE AND THERE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. ALSO RELATED TO THE PLAQUE, I'VE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THE MEDIAN ON CATALINA, AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT WAS IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. [04:00:01] IT'S BEEN ABOUT SEVEN YEARS SINCE WE RIPPED OUT THE TREES, AND IT'S ABOUT ONLY ABOUT 100 FEET LONG OR 200 FEET LONG. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG? IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS, AND IT MYSTIFIES ME. THE REASON WHY I BRING THIS UP IS NOT ONLY IS IT UNSIGHTLY, BUT WE FUNDED IT, AND EVERY MONTH THAT GOES BY, THE COST INCREASES. THIS IS A GENERAL BUGABOO THAT I HAVE ABOUT CIP MONEY IS WHEN WE APPROPRIATE IT. I KNOW THERE'S DESIGN AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, BUT THINGS DON'T GET DONE AS FAST AS THEY CAN GET DONE, IT SEEMS LIKE. THAT'S MY QUESTION. HOW ABOUT IT? >> WELL, I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS HAD THREE DIFFERENT FOLKS ASSIGNED TO ITS DESIGN, AND I THINK THE DESIGN HAS EVOLVED UNDER EACH OF THE SUPERVISING STAFF MEMBERS. HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ANDY WINJE THIS MORNING ABOUT THIS. I THINK WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS WE HAVE TO TAKE THE VARIOUS DESIGN WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, AND WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY AND DECIDE, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT MIX OF NATIVES? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT MIX OF TREES? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT MIX OF HABITAT THAT CAN HELP THE BLUE BUTTERFLY MIGRATION NORTH? THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLICY DISCUSSIONS AND CONCEPTS. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO WEAVE THEM ALL INTO THE PERFECT PLAN, AND I THINK THAT'S CANDIDLY STALLED US AS MUCH AS GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION IN THE PARK SERVICES MANAGER POSITION CANDIDLY. THAT'S NOW DONE. WE'RE OUT OF EXCUSES THERE, SO IT IS ON THE TO-DO LIST. WE'LL GET IT BACK TO YOU. AT ONE POINT, IT WAS GOING TO BE, HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A FIX, GET IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. THEN IT WAS, LET'S HAVE IT BE A TRIAL PROGRAM, SO THIS WILL BE THE BUILDOUT FOR THE BALANCE OF CATALINA, BECAUSE WE ONLY FUNDED THE ONE MEDIAN. WE DIDN'T REALLY PROVIDE FUNDING, OBVIOUSLY, TO DO THE FULL LANDSCAPE PLAN THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS, BUT MESSAGE RECEIVED, AND WE'LL TRY TO GET IT OUT OF THE PRE-DESIGN QUEUE AND INTO THE FULL DESIGN QUEUE. >> I HATE FOR IT TO GO ANOTHER TWO OR FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS. I KNOW SOMETIMES THE ENEMY OF PERFECT. [OVERLAPPING] I FORGOT HOW IT GOES. >> PERFECT IS THE ENEMY OF GOOD. >> PERFECT IS THE ENEMY OF GOOD OR GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >> THE LAST QUESTION I HAD IS, AND I THINK IT'S ALREADY IN THE QUEUE, AVIATION BETWEEN ARTESIA AND MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. I KNOW THAT'S SPLIT BETWEEN US AND MANHATTAN BEACH. >> MANHATTAN'S TAKEN THE LEAD ON DESIGN, I THINK, RIGHT, JESSE? THAT DESIGN'S UNDERWAY. >> CORRECT. MANHATTAN BEACH HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON THAT ONE. >> IT'S ONE OF THE WORST SEGMENTS OF AN [INAUDIBLE]. >> DEFINITELY. >> IT'S IN BAD SHAPE. >> IT'S TERRIBLE. WE'RE FUNDED TO HAVE IT CONSTRUCTED. I THINK WE'RE SCHEDULED TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING WE NEED NEXT YEAR BASED ON ESTIMATES. I THINK THAT ONCE THEY'RE GOOD WITH DESIGN, WE SHOULD BE READY TO GO. >> PROBABLY A YEAR FROM THIS SUMMER IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT? >> I THINK THEY'RE TAKING THE LEAD ON CONSTRUCTION AS WELL, CORRECT, JESSE? >> I THINK MAYBE LAUREN OR ANDY HAVE A BETTER TIMELINE ON THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. >> WHO'S THE LEAD ON CONSTRUCTION, ANDY? IS IT GOING TO BE US OR MANHATTAN? >> NO. SORRY. ANDY WINJE, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. JUST CHECKED IN WITH LAUREN ON THIS. SHE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MANHATTAN BEACH. THEY'RE JUST INITIATING THE DESIGN PROCESS NOW, SO THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A YEAR, AND THEN IT'LL BE CONSTRUCTION AFTER THAT. THEY'RE INITIATING BOTH PHASES OF THAT. >> AGAIN, PROBABLY A YEAR FROM THE SUMMER. >> YEAH. >> WHEN'S THE NEXT ROUND OF RESIDENTIAL AND REPAVING? >> WE ACTUALLY OPEN BIDS TOMORROW FOR THE NEXT PHASE. >> CONSTRUCTION IN THE SUMMER? >> YES. THEY'LL BE THE SUMMER, AND THEN WE HAVE PLANS AND SPECS COMING TO COUNCIL IN APRIL FOR THE PHASE AFTER THAT. >> SO THINGS SLURRY AND GRIND AND REPLACEMENT. >> NOT SLURRY. THIS IS GRIND AND OVERLAY, BOTH LOCATIONS. >> WE JUST DID SLURRY. [OVERLAPPING] WE DID TWO PHASES OF SLURRY THIS PAST YEAR. >> WASN'T DIAMOND GOING TO BE ONE OF THE SLURRY? I GUESS THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE THE STUDY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BRR 17, THANKS FOR GETTING THAT IN THERE, THE DALE PARK SHADE STRUCTURE. THERE'S 30,000 AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IN THE PLAYGROUND SHADE STRUCTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO THAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE. ANY REASON THAT CAN'T BE TRANSFERRED OVER AND EARMARKED FOR DALE PAGE SO THERE'S A SHADE STRUCTURE THERE? >> NO REASON. I THINK WE'VE COMPLETED ALL OF OTHER. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WOULD SAY THAT IS FOR DALE PAGE. THERE WAS THREE PARKS THAT WERE MEANT TO HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES, ANDREWS, WHICH IS COMPLETE, FRANKLIN, WHICH IS COMPLETE, AND THEN DALE PAGE IS THE LAST ONE. >> THERE'S 30,000 THERE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A NEED [04:05:03] TO CONFER WITH THE UTILITY THAT OWNS THAT. CAN THAT BE DONE, SPEAK TO THE UTILITY AND SEE WHICH OF THE THREE OR MORE OPTIONS FOR SHADE STRUCTURES WE ACTUALLY CAN DO THERE? >> SURE. WE CAN FOLLOW-UP ON THAT. >> THEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA AS TO WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? WHAT ARE THE COSTS, AND HOW MUCH IN ADDITION TO THE 30,000 WE NEED TO ALLOCATE? >> IF YOU LIKE THAT AS PART OF OUR BUDGET CONSIDERATION, WE CAN HAVE THAT WORKED UP AND READY TO GO. >> THEN THAT WAY WHEN WE COME BACK FOR BUDGET, WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL ON THAT WITH WHATEVER ADDITIONAL FUNDING MAY BE NEEDED. >> NUMBER 7 IS BLUE FOLDER. IT'S THE LAST ONE. >> YET YOU'RE KILLING ME. [LAUGHTER] DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND THEN PULL THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH. >> THEN ON THE BR FOR THE TOT, I THINK YOU MADE A GOOD POINT AS DID COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. THERE IS A DICHOTOMY IN THE CITY BETWEEN OUR HOTELS. WE HAVE WHAT I'LL CALL THE BEACH FRONT HOTELS, AND THOSE ARE MORE COMPARABLE TO SANTA MONICA, THE HERMOSA, THE MANHATTAN, THEN WE HAVE MORE OF THE FOUR OR FIVE COURT OR PROPERTIES, THE MARINA HOTELS, SOUTH BAY SOCIAL DISTRICT. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN OR SHOULD DO DIFFERENT TOT RATES IN EACH COASTAL ZONE OR NOT. WE'LL TALK THAT THROUGH, I'M SURE, AT SOME POINT. ONE THING THAT DID RESONATE WITH ME A LOT, AND SPEAKING WITH STUART MILLER WHO'S INVOLVED IN THIS PRETTY DEEP, IS THE FACT THAT FOR THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE ANOTHER HOTELIER TO COME IN AND BUILD ANOTHER HOTEL, WHICH I THINK WE WANT, INCREASING TOT NOW WILL MAKE A BIG IMPACT, NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THAT HAPPENING. COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN MADE A GOOD POINT. WHEN THE CONSUMER COMES IN, 2%, 1% DOESN'T MATTER. FOR THE DEVELOPER, THAT 2% INCREASE IN TOT, THE DEVELOPER ASSUMES THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE A MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN IN THE FIRST PLACE ON THE NIGHTLY RATE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A 2% TOT, IN THEIR MINDS, THEY'VE GOT TO DECREASE WHAT THEY CAN POCKET BY 2%. THEN THEY HAVE TO FUND THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE COST OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, MAYBE IT'S 6%, 7, 8%. BOTTOM LINE IS IT GETS EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT, AND IT COULD DISCOURAGE A HOTELIER FROM COMING IN. IT'S NOT JUST THE SOUTH BAY SOCIAL DISTRICT, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF NOT JUST SURVIVING, BUT HOPEFULLY THRIVING. THAT HOTEL IS A BIG PART OF IT. BUT A HOTELIER DOESN'T SEE THAT FOUR OR FIVE CORRIDOR-TYPE PROPERTY AS BEACHFRONT REDONDO. INSTEAD, THEY SAY, HEY, I DON'T AGREE. IT'S BASICALLY TORRANCE, IT'S BASICALLY HAWTHORNE. HAWTHORNE AND TORRANCE ARE AT 11%, 12% IF WE INCREASE THE TOT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE A HOTELIER. AN ELEGANT SOLUTION THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT FURTHER IS, FOR NEW HOTELS, IT'S TO A TEN YEAR MORATORIUM. IT'S NOT MY IDEA, SOMETHING STUART CAME UP WITH. IN THAT WAY, THERE'S AN INCENTIVE FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND BUILD THAT HOTEL. COME IN, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A 10-YEAR MORATORIUM ON WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS HAVING TO PAY IN A 2% INCREASE. THAT WAY, WE'RE NOT KILLING THE GOOSE BEFORE WE EVER GET AN EGG, LET ALONE A GOLDEN EGG. >> YOU'RE NOT SAYING A MORATORIUM ON TOT TOTALLY, JUST A 2% INCREASE? >> JUST A 10-YEAR. >> GOOD POINT. THEY'D BE KNOCKING DOWN THE DOOR TO COME IN IF WE WERE 2%. YEAH, 10-YEAR ON THE 2% OR WHATEVER THE BUMP IS. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, IT WASN'T SOMETHING ON MY MIND, BUT SPEAKING WITH STUART AND DOING SOME RESEARCH MYSELF, THAT REALLY RESONATED IS MAYBE BOTH AN INCENTIVE TO COME IN AND THEN NOT STIFLE WHATEVER. WE AS THE COUNCIL, AND ULTIMATELY THE PEOPLE, WANT TO DO ON A TOT INCREASE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD ON THAT. >> IT'S UP HERE. I'LL SAY IT. THE BR 12, THE LANAKILA CLASSIC FEE WAIVER. WE'RE ALL IN SUPPORT OF, WE GOT FIRE VICTIMS, WE HAVE FRIENDS, WE ALL KNOW SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY OR KNOWS PERSONALLY, WAS IMPACTED BY THAT. I WANT TO DO WHAT I CAN PERSONALLY TO SUPPORT THAT EVENT. MY CONCERN ABOUT GIVING THEM A FEE WAIVER IS WE GOT OTHER CHARITIES. WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T GETTING A FEE WAIVER THAT ARE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE IS LIKE, [04:10:01] I NOT GOING TO PUT IT LIKE THIS, BUT CAN I GET MY FEE WAIVER TOO? I'M A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THAT. I WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT. I'M SPREADING THE WORD. I'M GOING TO HAVE THAT HOPEFULLY IN A BLAST GOING OUT TO MY RESIDENTS. BUT TO GIVE THEM A WAIVER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT. HEY, ARE WE SETTING A PRECEDENT? THAT'S MY ONLY RELUCTANCE ON NUMBER 12. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, STEPHANIE, JESSE AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR THIS REPORT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK HERE. THE VETERANS PARK ONE ON NUMBER 11. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THIS ONE ALREADY. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. I KNOW STAFF IS BUSY. IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT JUST TO ME, IT'S JUST SICK TO WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO TAKING PLAQUES FROM VETERANS PARK. IT'S JUST SICK. I LOVE THE SOLUTION OF GETTING THE BRONZE PLAQUE WITH ALUMINUM. THAT'S PERFECT. IN FACT, I JUST TALKED WITH SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY. WE CAN USE THAT SAME IDEA MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY, CORRECT? I SEE HOW THAT'S CHECKING GOOD. PERFECT. LET'S SEE HERE. ITEM NUMBER 8, PV BOULEVARD. I BELIEVE ALL MOST OF THE OTHER, IF NOT ALL THE OTHER BIKE LANES THAT WE'VE DONE HAVE BEEN THROUGH GRANTS, CORRECT? I FULLY AGREE WITH THAT GOING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS. WE'VE ALREADY STRIPPED, I BELIEVE, AS WELL, HALF OF PV BOULEVARD, JUST A SIMPLE STRIPING. I SAW THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE STRIPING LOOKS FANTASTIC. BY THE WAY, THE STRIPING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE CITY ON THE BRIGHT GREEN AND THE AMAZING GLASS STYLE PAINT YOU'RE USING ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THE BLACK WITH THE WHITE ON THE TORRANCE BOULEVARD WITH PROSPECT BOULEVARD, WHERE IT'S BLACK UNDERLAYMENT AND THE WHITE OVERLAYMENT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS, IT REALLY POPS. IT'S AMAZING. THE STRIPING IS GOOD. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN REALLY CAME UP WITH THAT AND PUSHED THAT FORWARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE GREEN BIKE LANES IS AMAZING. SCHOOL DISTRICT 1, I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT. BEFORE I GO DOWN THAT PATH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH ALL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, SCHOOL EXPENSES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AND WE'RE SOAKING UP MORE AND MORE OF THESE INTERSECTIONS. I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK WITH OUR PARTNER THERE. SPEAKING OF PARTNERS. ITEM NUMBER 4. WHAT ABOUT GOING TO WHICH IS THE FIREWORKS IN THE HARBOR? EXCUSE ME. >> FIFTEEN. >> FIFTEEN. THOSE HOTELS THERE START DOUBLE BOOKING, TRIPLE BOOKING FOR EVENTS AND UP CHARGING MASSIVE AMOUNTS. HAVE WE GONE TO THEM AND START SAYING, HEY, LISTEN, YOU'RE GETTING A FREE SHOW? WON'T WE PONY UP A FEW DOLLARS? >> IT'S BEEN A WHILE I THINK SINCE WE'VE ASKED HIM, WE HAVE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE IT IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, I DON'T BELIEVE. >> I SAY IT BECAUSE A LAND-BASED SHOW IS GOING TO BE MUCH SMALLER. WE DO A LAND BASE SHOW THERE IN THE HARBOR. IF WE DO IT ANYWHERE ELSE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BIG GAME WHERE WE PUT IT FALLOUT ZONES SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF THEY WANT TO DO A HIGH SCHOOL, TO GET THEIR APPROVAL, WHERE THEY HAVE A PLASTIC FIELD, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE REALLY A BIG FAN OF THAT. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> MAY JUMP IN THERE REAL QUICK? >> YEAH. >> HAVE WE APPROACHED THIS WITH THE SCHOOL AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE? >> NO. >> WE HAD ONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT THE BASEBALL FIELD. >> RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ASSESSING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD EVEN WANT TO DO THIS WITH THE CITY, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT DAMAGE TO THEIR FIELDS, AS WELL AS PARKING, PEOPLE COMING IN, THINGS LIKE THAT. >> THEY'RE STILL FIGURING THAT OUT. THEY HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO US FOR A DEFINITIVE ANSWER. >> THANK YOU. >> SORRY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM. >> ALL GOOD. THEN ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH WAS THE LANAKILA CLASSIC FEE WAIVER, I'M SEEING IN HERE THAT BASICALLY WE ARE DOING ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT I GOT HERE FOR THE SPRING FEST IN NORTH REDONDO, ON OUR PARKING LOT WHERE WE WERE GOING TO CHARGE $15,000. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A FREE RENTAL. [04:15:02] WE'RE NOT HAVING THE EXPENSES OF POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS. >> I THINK YOUR FEE WAIVER COVERS ALL OF THAT. >> BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LANAKILA IS NOT NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 12. I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE IN THE BODY RESPONSE REPORT, A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE POLICE FIRE PUBLIC WORKS AS PART OF THE [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE LANAKILA EVENT HAS MUCH IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENSES. I DON'T THINK IT DOES. >> IT'S JUST THE SITE LOCATION, ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM AND THEY'RE PAYING ROUGHLY $9,500 IN FEES. >> WELL, NO, THAT'S THE HOLLY FESTIVAL THAT'S PAYING THE LARGER AMOUNT. I THINK THE LANAKILA IS THE $2,700 FIGURE. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? >> IT'S A FAIRLY WELL-CONTAINED EVENT FOR BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS. THE HOLLY FESTIVAL IS JUST A MUCH LARGER EVENT. THAT'S WHY THEIR FEES FOR RESERVING THE [INAUDIBLE] IS MUCH THERE. >> THEY'RE PAYING THE FULL RENTAL FOR THAT ONE. >> THEN THE $2,700 IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT, LANAKILA. >> FOR LANAKILA. >> IT'S REALLY 23. >> YES. BECAUSE THERE'S A $400 REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT AS PART OF THAT. >> I'M FINE WITH THE $2,700 AS LONG AS THEY PAY THE $400 DEPOSIT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING NOT HAPPEN OR THAT HAPPEN AND NOT BE ABILITY TO GO BACK TO THEM. THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON ALL OF THESE. CIP REPLENISHMENT, USUALLY WE PUT IN $1 MILLION THIS TIME OF YEAR TO THE CIP REPLENISHMENT FUND. >> WE DO IT USUALLY AT THE PRIOR YEAR-END. WE HELD OFF THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT CONVERSATION. WE HAVE A, THE 120 PROJECTS. WE ALSO HAVE THAT SOURCE OF FUNDS THAT'S MUCH LIKE THE GENERAL FUND THAT THROUGH THE WINDING DOWN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A NORTH PART OF TOWN THAT WE'RE ABLE TO USE AS DISCRETIONARY CAPITAL FUNDING. WE'VE, IN A SENSE, SUBSTITUTED THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION FOR THE TIME BEING WITH THOSE AVAILABLE PROCEEDS. >> THAT'S $1 MILLION? >> IT'S NOT QUITE. IT'S DECLINING. I THINK WE AT 800,000 NOW OR 750 OR SOMETHING? >> A 800,000. >> WE HAVE 120 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASIER TO SAVE. IF ANY, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE ANYTHING, I WOULD SAY PUTTING MONEY INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD QUALITY PIGGY BANK, SO WE'RE NOT USING THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS GET DONE. WE HAVE 120 OF THEM. WE ADDED 18 PLUS FOUR MORE THIS LAST FALL. >> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU AT LEAST ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY WITH THE MOST RECENT BIDS UNDERFUNDED, IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE, SEISMIC RETROFITS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AT THE FUND FACTORY. IF THERE WERE GOING TO BE $1 MILLION CAPITAL APPROPRIATION RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD CLOSE THE FUNDING GAP FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH PARTLY IN THE HARBOR UPLAND AND THAILAND'S CONCERNS AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF CAPITAL NEEDED, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON TO BE JUDICIOUS. >> ONE THING I HAD A QUESTION ON FOR NUMBER 2, WATERFRONT. I THOUGHT WE HAD FUNDED THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BASIN 3 DOCKS, $3 MILLION? >> WE DIDN'T GET THREE MILLION. WE HAD APPLIED WE RECEIVED ABOUT 1.4 MILLION FROM TED LOU FOR DOCK AND GANGWAY REPLACEMENT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO COVER FULL RECONSTRUCTION. IT'S JUST GOING TO ALLOW US TO REPAIR, I THINK THE MOST EFFICIENT STRUCTURES. IS THAT RIGHT? >> SO THE 32 MILLION HERE IS FULL REPLACEMENT OF EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE CONCRETE PIERS AND GANGWAYS? >> THAT FULL PROJECT WAS, AS I RECALL, BASIN 3 SEAWALL REPLACEMENT, FULL DOCK REPLACEMENT, AND A CANAL LIVER EXTENSION OF THE WALKWAY. CORRECT? >> I THOUGHT THAT SEAWALL WAS 12 MILLION. >> [OVERLAPPING] ALL OF THAT 32 MILLION IS FULLY ENCOMPASSING BASIN 3. >> I'VE GOT IT. THANK YOU. >> THAT MAKES MORE SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER AND I'VE SEEN THAT NUMBER BEFORE. >> THAT WAS THE ESTIMATE. THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD OUR GRANT WRITER APPLY FOR WHEN THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS FIRST CAME OUT DUE TO I THINK CLIMATE CHANGE, SEA LEVEL RISE. THAT WAS THE BIG PUSH EARLY WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. WE MADE A BIG APPLICATION FOR THAT, AND MUCH LIKE MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS GOT NOTHING FOR THAT, UNFORTUNATELY. >> I'M GLAD TO SEE THE STORM DRAIN NUMBER, THE AVENUE OF STORM DRAIN OUTFALL ON THERE. >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK FOR FOR GRANTS FROM THE STATE. THAT IS ALL ABOUT WATER INFILTRATION, AND WE GOT PLENTY OF PICTURES AND EVENTS THAT WILL SHOW US CLOSING THAT OFF AND INCREASE OUR WATER QUALITY DRAMATICALLY. I WOULD JUST BE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING NUMBER 11. [04:20:04] WE DON'T HAVE TO FUND NUMBER 15. THEN WHAT WAS A LANAKILA ONE NUMBER 12? >> SO 11 WOULD BE THE PLAQUES. CAN YOU SAY BY NAME? >> NUMBER 11, THE BRONZE PLAQUES REPLACEMENT, NUMBER 12, THE $2,700 FOR THE LANAKILA CLASSIC FEE WAIVER. WE DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE FIREWORK FUNDING YET RIGHT NOW, BUT MY DIRECTION WOULD BE TO TRY TO KEEP IT ON THE WATER AND TRY TO GET THE BUSINESSES THERE TO PAY. >> I THINK THE KEY FOR THE FIREWORK DIRECTION IS JUST AND I'M HEARING FROM MANY OF YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO HAVE A FIREWORKS SHOW SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY. SO IT'S GOING TO BE PROCEED WITH CONTRACTING WITH GARDEN STATE, AND THEN WE'LL START TO FIGURE OUT. >> I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. IF IT'S SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE HARBOR OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE, OUTSIDE OF THE WATERWAYS. >> DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHOW. >> DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHOW CALL THE OTHER VENDORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU WOULD WANT ANOTHER VENDOR. >> FOR A LAND SIDESHOW. >> YEAH. >> WELL, I ALSO THINK A LANDSIDE SHOW, WE GET A LOT OF DISGRUNTLED PEOPLE HEADING TO THE WRONG PLAY. >> WE HAVE TO DO A LARGE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS. WE CAN DO A LOT OF SMALLER SHOWS, BUT AGAIN, IT TAKES A LOT OF PRE-PLANNING. WE NEED TO CONTACT VENDORS NOW ASAP. THIS IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY PRETTY LATE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ASAP. IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY IN THE HARBOR, I WOULD SAY, WE GOT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ASAP WITHIN NEXT MONTH THE LATEST AND FUND THAT AND GO FROM THERE. WE'RE HAVING THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S NEXT BUDGET YEAR. >> THAT'S WHY WE'RE FLAGGING IT NOW. >> WHO DID YOU PLAN FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON BEFORE, WHERE WE CLOSE OFF THE SEASIDE LAGOON LAUNCH THERE? >> WELL, WE MOVED THE SHOW INLAND. REMEMBER, WE HAD THE EXPANDED RADIUS, AND WE'LL HAVE NEW BUSINESSES DOWN THERE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT. IF YOU MOVE IT ON LAND, YOU HAVE IMPACTS TO THE BUSINESSES AND THE LAGOON. YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE LAGOON BECAUSE ONCE THE PRODUCT'S ON SITE, YOU HAVE A SECURITY AND SAFETY ISSUE. THAT'S WHY THE BARGE ALWAYS ALLEVIATES THE SAFETY BUFFER BURDEN, EXCEPT NOW THIS YEAR, THE BARGE IS COMING AT A SIX-FIGURE PLUS COST. >> OFF THE PIER. >> PIER WOULD FORCE US TO BUFFER SOME OF THE OUTER BUSINESS AS WELL, SO THOSE MIGHT HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. >> IF I UNDERSTOOD [OVERLAPPING] A 500 FOOT BUFFER. >> THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. I'VE HEARD 400. I'VE HEARD 500, BUT GENERALLY, YES, THAT'S THE CONCERN AND THINGS LIKE KINCAID, ANY OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE ON THE ANGLE PIER, THE INNER HORSESHOE. THEY MAY HAVE TO CLOSE FOR THE DAY. >> IS THIS THE BARGE THAT GETS TOWED IN THE NIGHT OF AND THEN TAKEN OUT BACK? IS THAT THE QUOTE? CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, GO. >> I BELIEVE WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR OTHER POTENTIAL BARGE. >> THERE'S ANOTHER BARGE COMPANY IN SAN PEDRO? >> WE'VE CALLED SEVERAL BARGE COMPANIES. THAT WAS THE LOWEST PRICE WE RECEIVED AS A QUOTE. >> THAT WASN'T PACIFIC TUGBOAT OR ONE OF THEM? >> I HAVE TO ASK. >> IT'S GOING UP FROM 40-126. >> YES. >> SOMETHING'S NOT GIVEN. >> WOW, SOMETHING'S WEIRD. THAT'S FOR RENTAL JUST BACK AND FORTH, NOT WITH THEM LEAVING IT THERE IN ONE PLACE. THIS YEAR, 4TH OF JULY IS ON A THURSDAY. >> FRIDAY. >> FRIDAY. WOW. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO TWO SMALLER SHOWS? IF THE RENTAL OF THE BARGE IS SO BIG, WE HAVE A SHOW ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. WE DO SMALLER SHOWS THAT WAY, WE TAKE THE COST OF THE BARGE. WE MINIMIZE THAT, AND ALSO THEN WE CAN WORK AROUND THE SCHEDULE OF THE BARGE COMPANY. THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BALANCE OUT THE COST AND THE SERVICES FROM THE TUGBOAT SERVICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXTRAORDINARY IMPACT ON THE 4TH OF JULY. THEY CAN PREP, PREP THE SITE, PREP THE BARGE, GET IT ALL OUT THERE, A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFOREHAND, LEAVE IT, COME BACK AND PICK IT UP AT A LITTER DATE, AND WHATEVER FIREWORK COMPANY WE USE GARDEN STATE. IF WE DO TWO SMALLER SHOWS RATHER THAN ONE LARGE SHOW, IT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL THE BUSINESS IN THE HARBOR, RATHER THAN JUST ONE NIGHT, IT'S TWO NIGHTS OF FIREWORKS. THAT MIGHT BE A LARGER DRAW SINCE IT'S A FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THAT WOULD BE MY DIRECTION FOR THAT. >> IT WAS 11, 12 AND 15? >> DIRECTION FOR 15. [04:25:04] >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC? >> I WANTED TO GO BACK TO CIPS. BACK IN NOVEMBER 2023, WE SELECTED OUR CIP PRIORITIES. MAYOR BRAND PICKED WILDERNESS PARK, AND YOU'VE CHAMPIONED THAT. WE'RE IN A DESIGN-BUILD AGREEMENT APPROVED, RIVIERA, VILLAGE SIDEWALK PAVERS COMPLETED. INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK PAVERS COMPLETED. NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKE-WAY EXTENSION BIDS RECEIVED WILL BE AWARDED IN MARCH, AND THERE WERE TWO PROJECTS FOR THAT. THEY'RE TOGETHER. ANDERSON SCOUT HOUSE COMPLETED. THE PROJECT THAT I SELECTED IS IN PRE-DESIGN. >> WHICH ONE IS THAT? >> IT WAS THE MEGAS PARK. [OVERLAPPING] I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON COUNCIL BUSINESS UP HERE. I AM DEDICATED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I NEED TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING WITH ME ON THIS. >> WE LEAVE HERE WITH A COMMON UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT IS SAID HERE IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN. IT'S THIS REPORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT, IS NO LONGER MY FEELING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT. MY PRIORITIES HAVE NOT BEEN A PRIORITY HERE, AND IT MUST CHANGE. >> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ALONG THOSE LINES? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOUR PRIORITY SHIFTED FROM THE DESIGN SLOPE TO THE GUN RANGE AND FRANKLIN PARK. >> FAIR POINT. >> WHICH WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD ON. >> I WILL SAY THAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS NEVER HAD, WHICH I WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO SAY YES, BECAUSE I PICKED THAT IN NOVEMBER 2023. I WAS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I CONSULTED STAFF ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GET DONE, THAT IS A PRIORITY. I WANTED TO HEAR FROM STAFF. FRANKLIN PARK IS A PRIORITY FOR ME. THE SHOOTING RANGE IS A PRIORITY FOR ME. FRANKLIN PARK, WE'VE INSTALLED A WATER DISPENSER, WE PUT IN THE SHADES, WE HAVE ORDERED THINGS. BUT IT'S 2025, AND THIS WAS PICKED IN NOVEMBER 2023. I WANT TO BRING THIS UP, AND I WILL SAY WITH THE SHOOTING RANGE, I HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONING THAT PROJECT. I HAVE BEEN MAKING MEETINGS AND PUTTING PEOPLE TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT SINCE WE'VE TALKED IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR ABOUT THE DESIGN THAT HAD COME FORTH WITH IT. I KNOW WE'RE PUSHING IT NOW, BUT I NEED TO MAKE THIS COMMENT NOW, THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT DOESN'T GET ANYTHING DONE. >> WELL, JUST OUT OF FAIRNESS, WE HAVE APPLIED OUR EFFORTS TO THOSE TWO PROJECTS. WE HAVE PULLED OFF THE DESIGN OF THE SLOPE. IF YOUR PREFERENCE IS THE SLOPE, WE'RE HAPPY TO REAPPLY EFFORTS THERE, BUT WE HAVE REDIRECTED AND RE-TASK TO BOTH FRANKLIN PARK AND TO THE GUN RANGE. WHICH IS OUR IMPRESSION OF YOUR PRIORITY. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, I'M HAPPY TO RECALIBRATE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS A CLEAR DIRECTION. I THINK YOU INFERRED THE RIGHT ONE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONVERSATION, AND I THINK THAT IF I'M ASKING WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT? WE DIDN'T HIRE ANY CONSULTANT OR EVEN ENGAGE OUR GRANT WRITER UNTIL LAST FALL WHEN IT CAME TO THE SHOOTING RANGE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE TO BE CLEAR WITH EVERYONE HERE, THAT IS MY PRIORITY. BUT I DON'T EXPECT TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR WITHOUT SEEING COMPLETED OR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THAT BEING SAID, BRR 11 WITH THE STOLEN PLAQUES, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE COULD HAVE THEM INSTALLED BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY, AT LEAST FOR THE MEMORIAL FOR THAT AREA? >> I'LL HAVE TO ASK, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE AT. >> THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOT DISCUSSION, I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS MADE AND I THINK THERE'S A BIG DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE ON THAT. BRR 12, THE LANAKILA FUNDRAISER, I THINK, AS COUNCILMAN BARON SAID, THAT COULD CREATE A SLIPPERY SLOPE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF AMAZING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY THAT DO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO ALL KINDS OF PLACES. [04:30:04] I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR POLICY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE EXCEPTION FOR. THEN I THINK THE OTHER ONE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, FOR FIREWORKS, I THINK WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT PEOPLE WANT A FIREWORK SHOW THAT THEY'RE ACCUSTOMED TO, WHICH IS THE ONE IN THE HARBOR, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRICE TAG AT THIS POINT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. >> ANYONE WOULD WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST? >> I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT BRIEFLY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> ON THE CROSSING GUARD SUBJECT, I DID SPEAK TO TWO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THEIR RESPONSE IS, HOW COME WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE CITY FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF CROSSING GUARDS OR CONTRIBUTION TO CROSSING GUARDS FROM THE CITY MANAGER? WE DON'T WANT TO BID AGAINST OURSELVES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO PAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS MAYBE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS LAND SWAP SITUATION AND SO THIS HAS GONE TO THE BACK BURNER. BUT HERE, WE HAD A KID GET HIT AT ARTESIA BOULEVARD NOT TOO LONG AGO, MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO. CHAIN OF 40 RESIDENTS REACH OUT ASKING FOR THESE CROSSING GUARDS. I'D ASK THAT WE APPROVE BRR NUMBER 3 WITH DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO FORMALLY SEEK REIMBURSEMENT OR CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS ADJACENT TO RBUSD SCHOOLS AND ANY OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT WE SERVICE. >> I DO NEED TO PUT THAT INTO SOME CONTEXT. THE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT COSTS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CONCEPTS, REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNTS MULTIPLE TIMES. WE'VE SHARED OUR SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF SHARED SERVICES, WE HAVE HAD A MYRIAD OF CONVERSATIONS. WE ARE CHANNELING THAT DISCUSSION THROUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION OF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD TO SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN A FORMAL REQUEST. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY BEEN A FORMAL REQUEST. >> TOTALLY. >> THROUGH THAT. NOW, HAVE I SENT THEM A BILL OR AN INVOICE? NO. BUT THAT CHARACTERIZATION, I DON'T THINK IS FAIR NOR APPROPRIATE. >> WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE SPENDING $550,000 A YEAR FOR ANYBODY WATCHING OR PAYING ATTENTION ON CROSSING GUARDS. ZERO DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. RESIDENTS GET THEIR WAY, WHICH THEY SHOULD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES A REDUCTION IN ANXIETY, WE'D BE SPENDING ANOTHER 40-50,000 A YEAR, BUT AT LEAST FOR THIS PARTIAL YEAR, $25,000. >> I'M SORRY. >> IT'S OKAY, YOU GO FOR IT. >> THIS IS A VERY UNFAIR CHARACTERIZATION. WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I'VE BEEN VERY PERSISTENT ABOUT IT. AS A FORMER SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, THEY SHOULD PICK UP THE SLACK HERE AND ANYBODY THAT'S SAYING THAT IS NOT BEING ACCURATE. YOU HAVE ASKED [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M HAPPY TO SEND A FORMAL REQUEST. I'LL SEND IT FOR $600,000. >> A LETTER FROM THE CITY MAYOR SAYING THE CITY COUNCIL IS DIRECTING ME TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR $560,000. >> [OVERLAPPING] CONTRIBUTION. THAT'S IT. REIMBURSEMENT, THEY WANT TO PAY THE WHOLE 500, GREAT. THE CONTRIBUTION IS 100,000. THAT'S A FIFTH. >> EVERY YEAR, IT'S TOO LATE. WE FOUND OUT TOO LATE OUR BUDGET SET. WELL, I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR. >> THAT'S WHAT I IMAGINE. I DON'T FOLLOW THEIR FINANCES AND STUFF, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF SAVINGS FROM PASSING THE BOND IN SO FAR AT LEAST GETTING THE BOND APPROVED IN SO FAR AS WE HAD ALLOCATED MONEY FOR MAINTAINING OUR FACILITIES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED, AND WE'RE MOVING OVER TO THE GUN RANGE. I IMAGINE THEY TOO HAD MONEY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THEIR BUILDINGS, BUT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET BOND MONEY. MAYBE THEY HAVE EXCESS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT MAYBE THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAD BEFORE THE BOND PASSED IN NOVEMBER. >> THAT'S ALL. I'M FLEXIBLE ON LANAKILA. I GET BOTH ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF NOT STINGING THIS PRECEDENT. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S A CHARITY EVENT AND WE DON'T GET THAT MANY REQUESTS, I DON'T THINK, FOR A VERY PRESSING CASE. WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOUR VOTES, WHATEVER WE DO. >> WELL, IF WE SEND THIS FORMAL LETTER, THEY'RE IN RECEIPT OF IT THEN. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET A LETTER TOMORROW. >> LOOKING INTO THE BUDGET. BUT THIS HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION IN THE BIGGER DISCUSSION OF MANY SHARED COSTS AND PROPERTY AND ALL THE THINGS. MY UNDERSTANDING IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WAS IT'S ON THE TABLE ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. [04:35:04] >> CAN WE GET THE CC ON THAT? THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. CAN WE BE CC? >> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE ROUTE WE SHOULD GO OR? >> I MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND LOOK. >> THEY'LL GET THE FULL AMOUNT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN WORK INTO THE BUDGET. WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON RP LORRAINE TO DO PROPERTY APPRAISALS TO ADVANCE OUR PROPERTY SWAP DISCUSSION, THAT'S COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS ABOUT THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. LOVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I WILL ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR THEM. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE POSITIVE DIALOGUE IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, BUT LAST THING I WANT IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY CHARACTERIZE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL REQUEST. THEY'RE GOING TO GET A FORMAL REQUEST, WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT REQUEST WILL BE UP TO THEM. >> THAT'S FAIR. >> IT MIGHT BE COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL TOO, I DON'T KNOW. >> BUT I GET THE LAND SWAP IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT NEED TO BE APPRAISED AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THIS IS CLEAR AS DAY. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE SERVICING, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SCHOOLS ARE SERVICING, WE KNOW HOW MUCH THEY COST. THEY KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY CAN VERIFY THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEIR KIDS ARE GETTING CROSS ON THEM, OUR KIDS ARE GETTING CROSS ON THEM. THIS SHOULD BE SEPARATE. WE SHOULDN'T HOLD UP FOR THAT WHOLE COMPLICATED LAND SWAP DEAL TO GET CONTRIBUTION FOR THIS THING THAT WE JOINTLY ALL BENEFIT FROM. >> LIKE I SAID, THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS ON THE TABLE. AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IS THERE PROPERTIES, SOME SCHOOLS LIKE JEFFERSON OR LINCOLN, WHERE RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED TO OPEN UP THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE AREN'T VERY MANY PARKS AROUND THERE. THAT'S A COST TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN MAINTENANCE AND LIABILITY. WHO'S IN CHARGE OF ALL THAT? THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S A COST TO THAT. I GUESS FOR ME, I'M THINKING, ARE WE JUST GOING TO JUST BILL YOU FOR THIS NEW BILLS FOR THAT? >> MAYBE THAT'S IT. >> IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION. >> MAYBE THAT'S IT. BUT THE REQUESTS ARE INCREASING. AS PEOPLE SEE CROSSINGS, I WAS LIKE, BUT MY KIDS CROSSING THIS DANGEROUS STREET WHERE 60,000 CARS PASS EVERY SINGLE DAY. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BLINKING RED LIGHT, WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. >> BUT ONCE YOU GIVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE IT BACK. MR. CITY MANAGER, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE BEEN GIVING THEM A WASTEWATER FEE BILL, AND HOW MUCH WERE THOSE BILLS FOR A YEAR? >> THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT, WELL OVER $100,000. >> [OVERLAPPING] $400,000 A YEAR, RIGHT? >> NOT QUITE THAT MUCH MORE IN THE $100,000 RANGE, BUT WE HAVE BEGUN COLLECTING THAT NOW. >> BEGUN, FINALLY. THE CONVERSATION REALLY GOES TO ONCE WE GIVE THIS, WE'RE NOT EVER GOING TO TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS CRITICAL. IT'S CRITICAL THEY NEED TO BE GIVING AS WELL. THEY'RE MAKING THE REQUEST, PARENTS ARE MAKING REQUESTS. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP, BOTH WORKING TOGETHER TO YOUR POINT. >> I WOULD ALSO SAY IN THE SCOPE OF CROSSING GUARDS, I THINK EVERY PARENT WILL SAY, MY CORNER IS THE MOST DANGEROUS CORNER IN THE CITY. FOR THEM, IT IS. BUT WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE SOME, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT, I KNOW CHIEF HOPIN YOU ANALYZE EVERY INTERSECTION THAT WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS MORE. WHAT IS THE STANDARD? I THINK, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, YOU HAD A GREAT IDEA OF, WE'RE CAPPED AT THIS NUMBER OF CROSSING GUARDS, AND WE'RE GOING TO RANK IT BASED ON WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS THAT IS THE MOST NEED. >> THE CONCEPT BEING THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH PERHAPS A MORE OBJECTIVE CRITERION TO DETERMINE WHICH LOCATIONS RECEIVE FUNDING BECAUSE AS IT STANDS NOW, WE'VE GOT COMPLETE CREEP. IT WASN'T JUST BUT A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE STAFFING 14 CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS. WE'RE QUICKLY AT DOUBLE THAT IN JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS. WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE COULD HIRE FOUR POLICE OFFICERS FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE DEDICATING TO CROSSING GUARDS. WE'RE SPENDING THAT DOLLARS. >> HOW MANY? FOUR? >> ROUGHLY FOUR. >> FOUR POLICE OFFICERS. >> THAT'S THE VALUE. THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT VALUE NOW. >> LAST TIME, OFFICER WAS 250. >> TWO FIFTY AHEAD. >> THAT WAS MOTORS OFFICERS, WAS QUITE A BIT OF EQUIPMENT. WE ARE IN SERIOUS BUDGET PRIORITIZATION MODE NOW, AND THAT'S A HEALTHY CONTRIBUTION TO A PROGRAM THAT WHILE IT CERTAINLY FEELS GOOD, I'M NOT SURE METRICALLY AND STATISTICALLY, ADDS AS MUCH VALUE AS IT'S PERCEIVED TO ADD. [04:40:01] >> I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT HERE WE JUST REALIZE THAT OUR TAX REVENUES INCREASE WHAT? FIVE PERCENT ON REAL ESTATE TAXES. THAT THE VALUES ARE GOING UP IN REDONDO BEACH. THIS IS A LUXURY, IF YOU WILL, OR AN AMENITY THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD GET IN THE SOCIETY IN REDONDO BEACH, ESPECIALLY AS WE PRIORITIZE STREET SAFETY AND THE LIKE. I CAN'T BLAME THEM WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT. THERE ARE CARS MOVING AT A FAST PACE. >> CAN WE BALANCE THE REQUEST WITH ANOTHER LOCATION? >> YEAH. >> YEAH, WE PRIORITIZE. >> WE PRIORITIZE, EXACTLY. >> THE LAST ONE I GOT WAS AT GRANT AVENUE AND AVIATION, EXTREMELY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. I THINK THE ONE BEFORE THAT WAS FELTON AND GRANT. THE NUMBER OF KIDS CROSSING AT FELTON AND GRANT IS IMMENSE. A HUNDRED AND THIRTY KIDS ARE CROSSING ARTESIA. THIS IS ON THIS DATE. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THEM, IT'S A FLOOD OF PEOPLE COMING DOWN ON THEIR BIKES AND WALKING. I GET IT. IT'S MORE OF, IT REDUCES ANXIETY RATHER THAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE SAFETY. MAYBE INCREASES VISIBILITY. BUT ANYWAYS, LET'S HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. >> I WOULD ALSO SAY, WE ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THE QUESTION IS, TO WHAT EXTENT? ALSO, THE DISTRICT DECIDED TO STAY WITH THE CHARTER AND THE ELECTIONS, AND WE PICKED THAT UP. THAT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I THINK ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS SHARE THE COST. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> HOW ABOUT WE APPROVE THE 25 NOW, SEND THE REQUEST, AND WE SEE COME BUDGET TIME, HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY ARE PITCHING IN? THEN WE DETERMINE FROM THERE AND MAYBE WE QUALIFY. >> ONCE YOU GIVETH, YOU CAN'T TAKETH. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE OR SOMETHING. >> HOW ABOUT WE REPRIORITIZE? >> SURE. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND A SPECIFIC NUMBER REQUEST? YOU WANT A $200,000 TARGET NUMBER, NOT THE FULL. >> I'D ASK FOR 200. I THINK THE MINIMUM THEY SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING IS 100. >> MORE THAN THAT. >> THAT'S WHY IT'S MINIMUM. BALL PARKING. BUT. WE COULD ALSO GO BASED ON THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CROSSING TO THE SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, FUND THOSE. >> [OVERLAPPING] EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. I THINK IT'S A LARGER CONVERSATION. >> MORE CLEAR DIRECTION. >> MY WHOLE FRUSTRATION WITH IT, IT'S NOT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION. WE'VE HAD LITERALLY A MYRIAD OF CONVERSATIONS. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR FORMING THE SUBCOMMITTEE. WE WERE MAKING PROGRESS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS THAT BOTH PARTIES PROVIDE. WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A BROADER MORE CONSTRUCTIVE SOLUTION. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT IT'S TAKING TIME BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIVE DEBATE AND DIALOGUE, AND THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST. IF WE WANT TO MAKE A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR OR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXTEND THAT. BUT I THINK THE POINT IS ALSO WELL TAKEN. IF WE MAKE A FORMAL $560,000 REQUEST, AND WE'RE ANGRY ABOUT IT, WHICH I WAS, YOU CAN'T PUT THAT BACK INTO THE CAN. BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. IF THAT'S THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE CAN'T REACT TO IF WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL REQUEST, THERE WILL BE ONE TO THEM TOMORROW. >> LIKE TO ASK A RELATED QUESTION. 25K IS THE COST JUST FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR. WHAT'S THE WHOLE FISCAL YEAR? >> [OVERLAPPING] IS DOUBLE THAT. DOUBLE SO 50? >> CAN I COME ON? >> COME ON. >> 39792, IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT. THAT THE PRICE VARIES DEPENDING ON, IF WE USE THE CONTRACT COMPANY TO DO THE CROSSING GUARD OR IF WE USE A CITY-EMPLOYED CROSSING GUARD. THE CITY-EMPLOYED ONES ARE CHEAPER. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA ONES RIGHT NOW. WE CONTACTED THE CROSSING GUARD COMPANY AND IF YOU APPROVE THESE TWO CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS, THEY HAVE ONE THAT THEY CAN GIVE US. IF WE'RE GOING TO FILL BOTH, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRAW RESOURCES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO FILL THE OTHER ONE UNTIL EITHER THEY CAN HIRE ONE OR WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HIRE ONE, WHICH WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS, WHICH WOULD LIKELY PUT US INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OR WE HAVE TO PULL A MSO [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHICH MEANS STAFFING THESE LOCATIONS IMMEDIATELY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DRAW ON OTHER EXISTING POSITIONS. [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THEN ANOTHER THING THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RECEIVING $100,000 A YEAR ANNUALLY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR OUR ASSIGNED SRO AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. [04:45:02] THEY GIVE US FOUR PAYMENTS. WE HAVE TWO SROS, WE PAY FOUR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. ONE IS FUNDED, INCLUDING $100,000 PAYMENT THAT'S PAID $25,000 A QUARTER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT POSITION. IF WE WEREN'T RECEIVING THAT $100,000, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT ADDITIONAL SRO WITHOUT SEEKING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS OUT THERE AS WELL. THEN AS FAR AS THE CROSSING GUARD STUDIES, WE GET A LOT OF THESE REQUESTS, AND WE INCLUDED THE ANALYSIS IN THE BRR TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRACKING. IT'S A REALLY GOOD JOB. THE CROSSING GUARD SUPERVISOR GOES OUT THERE AND DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB PAYING ATTENTION TO WHO'S CROSSING ON BIKES, SEE BIKE SKATEBOARDS, STUDENTS CROSSING, ADULTS CROSSING, AND ALL THAT STUFF. QUITE FRANKLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE A CROSSING GUARD AT EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION WHERE KIDS CROSSWAY BECAUSE IT'S GREAT FOR THE PERCEPTION OF TRUST AND SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC, AND IT'S A REFLECTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT REFLECTS WELL ON ALL OF YOU AND THE ENTIRE CITY. THAT'S NOT REALITY, UNFORTUNATELY, AND SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT ALL THE REQUESTS THAT WE GET AND WEIGH IT AGAINST ALL THIS DATA. YEAH, ARTESIA AND THE GREENBELT DOES HAVE A JUSTIFICATION. BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK, THERE ARE OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT, IF YOU SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE NO REQUEST, WHAT'S THE NEXT INTERSECTION YOU WOULD PUT? WE HAVE A LIST. >> THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST. >> THAT'S NOT ON IT. >> DO YOU HAVE A LIST CHIEF? >> I DO. >> OF INTERSECTIONS THAT WE'RE STAFFING THAT MAYBE WE COULD TRADE OFF? >> NO. ONCE WE STAFF ONE, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM SAID, [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU CAN'T TAKE THEM OUT. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY. [LAUGHTER] IF YOU DECIDE TO PULL THE FUNDING FOR A SPECIFIC INTERSECTION AND MOVE IT TO ANOTHER ONE, I'M GOING TO ADHERE TO THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, BUT PEOPLE GET VERY ATTACHED TO THEIR CROSSING GUARDS. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> THEY DO A GOOD JOB, AND THEY WANT THE ONES NEAR THEIR HOMES WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE TRAVELING AND WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE WALKING BETWEEN THEIR HOME AND THEIR SCHOOL. BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED OTHER LOCATIONS, AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF IT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CROSSING A SPECIFIC INTERSECTION. YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF THOSE ONES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ARE CLOSER TO THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE PEOPLE TRICKLE IN FROM AREAS ON THE FRINGE, AND AS THEY GET CLOSER TO THE SCHOOLS, THE CONCENTRATION INCREASES. BUT WE DO MAINTAIN A LIST, BUT 27 IS A LOT. WE SORT THAT OUT IN THE LAST BUDGET PROCESS AND IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR APPROVING ALL OF THAT FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM, AND IT DOES ENHANCE THE SAFETY FROM EVERY ANGLE FOR ADULTS, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES. IT KEEPS POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET, ALL THAT STUFF. DEFINITELY JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THOSE THINGS, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ANSWER. >> WHAT'S THE NEXT INTERSECTION YOU WOULD DO IF IT WAS [OVERLAPPING]? >> YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE THAT WHAT I WOULD DO IS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR CROSSING [OVERLAPPING]. >> RIGHT, I GET THAT. JUST ONE THOUGH. >> PHELAN AND MARSHALLFIELD. WHERE MARSHALLFIELD AND RIPLEY JOIN AT PHELAN RIGHT THERE, FEEDING INTO WASHINGTON AT ADAM SCHOOL. THAT IS A VERY LARGE CONCENTRATION OF STUDENT FLOW IN THE MORNING THERE. THAT'S AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST. WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER ONES, AND WE MAINTAIN TO WHERE IF ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO. HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THAT [NOISE] IF THE FUNDING [OVERLAPPING]. >> HERE'S THE CHALLENGE. THE MINUTE WE FUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS, TO EVERYBODY'S POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OWN IT STRUCTURALLY. I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE NUMEROUS STRUCTURAL PRESSURES GOING INTO THE NEXT FEW BUDGET CYCLES. WE DO NOT HAVE AN UNLIMITED CHECKBOOK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL BACK. EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND IS A DOLLAR, IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMIT TO LONG TERM, SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH IT. >> YOU RECOMMEND NO. >> NONE. >> OKAY. THANKS, CHIEF. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE MY HAND UP STILL. >> YES. COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM >> I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT WAS THE STATUS WITH THE RECENT FIRES AND EMERGENCIES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING, EMERGENCY COORDINATOR. DID WE FILL THAT POSITION? [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE WORKING ON THE JOB SPEC NOW. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DONE HERE NEXT MONTH. I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. THAT IS IN MOTION. >> WHEN WOULD THAT BE? WHEN DID YOU SAY? >> WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT. IT WAS IN THE STRAP PLAN. I THINK WE'VE GOT THE SPEC WORKING. WE'RE GOING TO BE SITTING DOWN WITH THE ASSOCIATION. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT PROBABLY HERE IN MARCH. >> IT'S GOING TO BE AN ASSOCIATION MEMBER? A CIVILIAN? >> WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE OPTIONS. >> OTHER CITIES MOSTLY HAVE IT IN THE CIVILIAN SIDE, BUT THEY WOULD SEE [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WOULD BE A CIVILIAN, IT WOULDN'T BE A FIRE ASSOCIATION. IT WOULD BE A CIVILIAN, SUPERVISORY LIKELY A PSA MEMBER. >> OKAY, GOT IT. I SEE IT. OKAY. THAT WAS IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK, THIS LENGTHY ITEM. >> SPEAK IT OUT. >> ALL RIGHT. [04:50:01] >> COUNCIL AND STAFF. MY NAME IS REBECCA ELDER, AND I'M THE CHAIR OF REDONDO BEACH TOURISM. I'M HERE TO COMMENT. I SUBMITTED A BLUE ITEM FOLDER ON BRR ITEM 14 ON TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX. >> YEAH. >> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX INCREASE WAS PROJECTED TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND, AND I WANTED TO PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE. I DID PROVIDE STATUS TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHERE OUR TOT IS, BUT ALSO WHERE THE ASSESSMENTS FOR OTHER TOP-TIER CITIES ARE. MANY OF THE TOURISM BOARDS ARE FUNDED BY AN ASSESSMENT, AND THAT IS A REINVESTMENT OF THE OVERNIGHT GUESS, SO IT'S NOT PAID FOR BY THE CITY, BUT THAT ALLOWS THE HOTELS TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE OCCUPANCY AND CONTRIBUTE TO TOT. AS WE TALK ABOUT AN OVERALL INCREASE IN TOT, I'M ALSO ASKING THAT WE CONSIDER AN ASSESSMENT THAT WILL ALLOW US REDONDO BEACH TOURISM, MORE FUNDS AND TO TABLE TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE AND CONTINUE TO INCREASE OCCUPANCY. >> WHAT DO YOU SEE? >> PARDON? >> WHAT ASSESSMENT PERCENT, 2%? >> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 1%, SO WE COULD GO UP ANOTHER 1% AND THAT WOULD DOUBLE THE BUDGET. IF YOU LOOK AT A TOP-TIER CITY LIKE LOS ANGELES, THEY'RE AT 38 MILLION, EVEN IN MARINA DEL REY, SANTA MONICA, THEY'RE AT 68 MILLION, WE'RE AT 700,000 RIGHT NOW. OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS TO RAISE AWARENESS, SO WE REALLY NEED THOSE FUNDS TO PUT THAT INTO DIGITAL MARKETING TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE CONSUMER BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW MANY ADS WE ALL GET. >> DO YOU THINK 2% IS ENOUGH THEN? >> I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE OVERALL COST OF THE CONSUMER BECAUSE TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN SAID EARLIER, WELL, I DON'T PARTICULARLY THINK ABOUT TAX, AND I THINK THAT AS JUST THE COST OF GOING. WE DO HAVE BUDGET-FRIENDLY ACCOMMODATIONS HERE THAT ARE INNS THAT ARE SMALLER, AND THAT MAY IMPACT THE GUEST. I THINK IT SHOULD BE VIEWED HOLISTICALLY TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE TOT, SO IF THE CITY WAS GOING TO GO UP BY ONE OR 2%, AND THEN WE WOULD GO UP BY 1 OR 2%. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO DISSUADE FUTURE HOTELS FROM COMING IN. I THINK WE HAVE TO JUST ANALYZE ALL THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> BEFORE YOU GO, MS. ELDER. THANK YOU FOR THIS BLUE FOLDER ITEM. I APPRECIATED THE THOROUGHNESS OF IT AND WHAT YOU ADDED IN HERE THAT TELLS US A BENEFIT, AND ALSO THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION DO. >> THANK YOU. >> THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY, THE ADVERTISING, REALLY GETTING REDONDO BEACH ON THE MAP. I THINK WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE WHAT WE HAVE HERE, IT HELPS EVERYONE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THANK YOU. THAT'S OUR GOAL. WE APPRECIATE IT, AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL THE IMAGERY TO THE CITY SO THERE'S A LOT OF BRANDING WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. EUGENE SOLOMON, REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ITEM 14 AND TALKING ABOUT THE TOT. I WOULD ASK YOU AS PART OF YOUR MOTION, CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THAT IS PART OF THE MOTION TONIGHT THAT YOU CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THIS IS A LONG RUNWAY TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU ALL HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. COME UP WITH A MOTION, GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF, HAS TO BE CREATED A BALLOT MEASURE, HAVE TO PICK AN ELECTION. THIS COULD TAKE A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF, OR TWO YEARS, SO THE EARLIER YOU BEGIN THIS PROCESS, THE BETTER. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FOR THE GALLERIA AND FOR NEW HOTELS AND ENTRANCE TO THE MARKETPLACE. THIS WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO IMPLEMENT, SO PLEASE DON'T DELAY THAT PART OF IT. WHEN YOU MENTIONED COUNCIL MEMBER KAPOVICH ABOUT THE TITANS. THE TOT IS NOT RESTRICTED WITHIN THE TITANS. ANY MONEY EARNED IN THE TITANS FROM A HOTEL COMES INTO THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S THE WAY THAT THAT PARTICULAR TAX WORKS. ALL FUNDS WITH TOT, REGARDLESS OF LOCATION, COME TO THE GENERAL FUND. THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT WHERE THAT COULD BE AMENDED IN SOME WAY THAT WOULD BE PART OF A BALLOT MEASURE WHEN YOU WENT AHEAD AND PASSED IT, WHETHER MS. ELDER'S DISCUSSIONS OR MR. LOEWENSTEIN'S DISCUSSIONS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BLACKOUTS AND PERHAPS FOR NEW HOTELS, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE A HOTEL COMING ONLINE, HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, AT THE LOGADO LOCATION. CONSIDER HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THOSE HOTELS WHICH ARE READY TO GO TO MARKET IMMEDIATELY VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGE OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE A BLACKOUT PERIOD TO A LOGADO HOTEL? BECAUSE THEY'RE OPENING UP? ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT JUST FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AFTER XYZ DATE? ANY NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS, PLEASE CONSIDER, AS PART OF YOUR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT BACK. PLEASE BEGIN THE PROCESS AND MAKE PART OF YOUR MOTION. >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? [04:55:04] >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDY [INAUDIBLE]. THIS IS THE NAME I USE IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I LIKE THAT PRESENTATION. VERY NICE PRESENTATION, AND IT IMPRESSED ME YOU GUYS ARE DOING BETTER THAN MY CITY OF TORRANCE. I JUST LIKE TO ECHO THE CITY MANAGER'S WORDS. THE INCOME MIGHT COME DOWN LATER BECAUSE I'M WATCHING THE MARKET, AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT PROPERTY TAXES BRING IN $27 MILLION. THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE OLD GEEZERS DIE, THEY PAID LIKE 1,500, 2,000 PROPERTY TAXES. THE KIDS HAVE TO SELL THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE KIDS CANNOT AFFORD IT ANYMORE. THE KIDS SELLING THE HOUSE FOR TWO MILLION [NOISE]. YOU GOT 20,000 INSTEAD OF 1,500 OR 2,000. ANYWAY, THOSE ARE GOING TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE AUTHORITY. THE HOUSE PRICE IS COMING DOWN. BUT YOU SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON THAT. BUT I HEARD THAT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE CROSSING GUARDS. TORRANCE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. TRIED TO ASK THE SCHOOL, THEY LAUGHED AT THEM. I FEEL THAT TORRANCE POLICE OFFICERS AT SCHOOLS PROVIDE CROSSING GUARD SERVICES, SO THAT'S HOW BAD IT WAS IN TORRANCE. INSTEAD OF HIRING CROSSING GUARDS, TORRANCE POLICE OFFICERS WERE AT THE SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY MAKE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IT'S LIKE 80 BUCKS AN HOUR. IT'S BETTER TO HIRE CROSSING GUARDS OR TELL GRANDMA, HEY, GRANDMA, YOU WANT TO MAKE 20 BUCKS? COME EARLY WITH YOUR KID. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT THAT'S JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, 500,000. BUT DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT GOING TO PAY YOU. THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THE SAME THING. WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE SCHOOLS GET LESS MONEY EVERY YEAR WHEN THE GOVERNMENT INCOMES COME DOWN. THEY'RE ALWAYS CRYING, AND THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, NO NEED TO SEND THEM THE LADDER. I KNOW THE ANSWER IS NO, IF THEY EVEN ANSWER. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I KNOW I'M A TORRANCE RESIDENT, BUT I USED TO LIVE IN REDONDO BEACH, AND REDONDO BEACH IS THE FIRST CITY I MOVED INTO A HOUSE IN AMERICA. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE VERY JEALOUS ABOUT THAT. THEY DID NOT LIVE IN CLIFTON. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? PEOPLE ARE VERY JEALOUS, AND YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE THIS COMPLEX. ANYWAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ONLINE? YES. >> JOHN WYNN. >> JOHN, ARE YOU THERE? >> YES, I'M HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS JOHN WYNN, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 5. I'M THE FORTUNATE PARENT OF FOUR STUDENTS IN REDONDO BEACH AND MADE IT MY PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THEY AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE SAFE WHEN TRAVELING FROM NORTH REDONDO BEACH TO ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. ON THE MORNING OF JANUARY 16, I PERSONALLY WITNESSED AN ADAMS STUDENT GET HIT BY A CAR AT THE LIGHT AT ARTESIA AND THE GREENBELT. THE STUDENT WAS CROSSING WHEN THERE WERE STILL 20 SECONDS LEFT ON THE CROSSWALK. I'VE ASKED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO GET A CROSSING GUARD AT THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE OF THE MANY CLOSE CALLS I'VE PERSONALLY SEEN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IN FOUR YEARS, I'VE NOW SEEN THREE KIDS HIT BY A CAR IN THIS AREA, BUT ONLY DID THE LAST ONE WARRANTED A CALL TO THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT DUE TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CRASH. THE TWO KIDS FELT THEY WERE OKAY ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TO BIKE TO SCHOOL, AND SO I ESCORTED THEM TO SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE THEY ARRIVED SAFELY. I FEEL LIKE I'M DOING MY PART IN PROTECTING NOT ONLY MY KIDS BUT ALSO THE MANY KIDS WHO RIDE ALONG WITH ME, INCLUDING KIDS WHO HAPPEN TO JUST CROSS MY PATH AS WE'RE BIKING TO SCHOOL. I AM NOW ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE APPROVE THE BUDGET CHANGE OF $25,000 TO ALLOW A CROSSING GUARD AT THE INTERSECTION OF ARTESIA AND GREENBELT, AS WELL AS INGLEWOOD AND GRANT, TO HELP MYSELF AND OTHERS KEEP OUR KIDS SAFER AS THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE THEIR WAY TO AND FROM SCHOOL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> I HAVE NONE AND [INAUDIBLE] JILL LOVE. >> HI. I HAVE BOTH MYSELF AND MY SON, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM SPEAK FIRST, AND THEN I WILL SPEAK IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIM. >> MY NAME IS OLIVER LOVE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 4, AND I AM IN FIFTH GRADE AT WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY. [05:00:02] I WALK TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE HAVE TO CROSS A REALLY BUSY INTERSECTION AT INGLEWOOD AND GRANT WITH LOTS OF LIGHTS AND DRIVERS WHO MIGHT NOT BE PAYING ATTENTION. LOTS OF MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS LIVE NEAR THAT INTERSECTION, AND A CROSSING GUARD WOULD HELP ALL OF US TO FEEL SAFER. I'VE SEEN THAT AT THE INTERSECTION AT RIPLEY AND FELTON, A CROSSING GUARD HELPS EVERYONE TO FEEL SAFE. ALSO, I WOULD LOVE TO WALK HOME WITH JUST MY FRIENDS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL NEXT YEAR. IF WE DON'T HAVE A CROSSING GUARD, OUR PARENTS WON'T LET US. A CROSSING GUARD THERE WILL MAKE IT EASIER AND SAFER FOR ME TO WALK HOME WITH MY FRIENDS NOW AND WHEN I'M IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A REASON TO STAY UP LATE ON A SCHOOL NIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS JILL LOVE, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER ZEIN OBAGI FOR HEARING THE CONCERNS OF US PARENTS, AND ADVOCATING FOR TWO MORE CROSSING GUARDS THIS SCHOOL YEAR. I'M THE MOTHER OF A FIFTH GRADER WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM, AND A FIRST GRADER WHO ATTEND WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE LIVE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT AVENUE'S, AND WE WALK TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY WITH ONE OTHER FAMILY. THREE DAYS A WEEK, WE WALK AT 7:25 TO ARRIVE IN TIME FOR RUN CLUB, AND ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, WE LEAVE AT 7:50 TO GET TO SCHOOL WITH PLENTY OF TIME FOR MORNING RECESS. THIS PUTS US OUT NEAR OUR INTERSECTION RIGHT DURING MORNING RUSH HOUR. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE CROSSING GUARD, BRIAN, WHO HELPS KEEP ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLERS SAFE AS WE ALL CONVERGE AT FELTON AND RIPLEY. IT'S A ZOO OVER THERE, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE DANGEROUS IT WOULD BE FOR PEDESTRIANS, BIKERS, AND DRIVERS ALIKE WITHOUT HIM RUNNING THE SHOW. OUR INTERSECTION AT ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DON'T GET QUITE AS MUCH FOOT TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S A HUGE INTERSECTION. FOR MANY OF US, IT REQUIRES CROSSING GRANT, ENGLEWOOD, AND THEN RIPLEY. DRIVERS USUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO OUR GROUP BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MISS FOUR KIDS AND TWO PARENTS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY STILL DON'T. MANY CARS HAVE TURNED RIGHT FROM ENGLEWOOD ONTO RIPLEY WITHOUT YIELDING TO US PEDESTRIANS STANDING AT THE CROSSWALK. I ALSO CLEARLY REMEMBER ONE MORNING WHEN I HAD TO PHYSICALLY PUT MY HAND OUT AND BANG ON THE HOOD OF A CAR THAT WAS ABOUT TO TURN RIGHT FROM GRANT ONTO ENGLEWOOD DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY KIDS AND ME. I SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IF I HADN'T BEEN THERE. THIS INTERSECTION SERVICES TWO SCHOOLS; WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY AND ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. MY SON AND NEIGHBOR WILL BE MOVING ON TO MIDDLE SCHOOL NEXT, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKING AS PARENTS IF THEY CAN WALK TO AND FROM ADAMS ON THEIR OWN. IT'S A NO FOR ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I TRUST MY SON, I DON'T TRUST OTHER DRIVERS TO SEE HIM. BELIEVE ME, I DON'T WANT TO BE A HELICOPTER PARENT, BUT I MUST BE A REASONABLE PARENT, AND I KNOW THAT THOSE CARS GOING 45 MILES AN HOUR JUST DON'T ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE PRESENCE OF A CROSSING GUARD AT ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT WOULD NOT ONLY FORCE CARS TO PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO STUDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THEY WILL ALSO BE MORE MINDFUL OF US AS WE CROSS RIPLEY SINCE IT'S THE NEXT STREET AFTER THE PROPOSED CROSSING GUARD. I ALSO THINK THAT THERE MAY BE MORE PARENTS WILLING TO WALK WITH THEIR KIDS OR ALLOW THEIR KIDS TO WALK, SCOOTER, OR BIKE ON THEIR OWN, IF THERE WERE A CROSSING GUARD TO HELP PROTECT THE KIDS. I PERSONALLY LOVE THE EXTRA TIME WITH MY KIDS TO START THE DAY BY WALKING TO SCHOOL, AND IT'S ALSO GREAT EXERCISE FOR ALL OF US. HAVING A CROSSING GUARD PRESENT TO KEEP DRIVERS ALERT WOULD HELP ALL OF US HAVE MORE PEACE OF MIND AND MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> THAT IS IT, AND NO E-COMMENTS. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. PART OF THE BUDGET MOTION WE HAD LAST YEAR, PART OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, IS THE PROSECUTION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH TO UPDATE THAT. IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2012. WE'RE CHARGING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. SINCE 2012, WE ARE 13 YEARS LATER. WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT? >> WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH HERMOSA. I THINK THEY WERE RECEPTIVE TO FOLLOW UP CHANGES. I'D HAVE TO TALK TO MIKE TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S BEEN ANY MORE FORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROSECUTION TEAM, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO UPDATE THE AGREEMENT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. BUT WITH THAT UPDATE, I THINK THEY'RE OPEN TO SOME ADDITIONAL INCREASES. >> BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT REVENUE, THIS IS 13 YEARS NOW. I THINK IT'S BEEN THERE, AND WE WANT TO DO THESE THINGS. I COULD SEE SOME REVENUE THERE THAT WE COULD USE FOR THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. [05:05:04] I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, LET'S SEE, WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION ON ITEM 15, APPROVE ITEM 11, VETERANS PARK WITH THE PLAQUES. ITEM NUMBER 12 FOR $2,750. >> CAN YOU IDENTIFY IT BY NAME? >> WHICH IS THE AQUILA AGREEMENT? JUST THEIR ITEM, THE $2,700 ONE. BUT TAKE THE DEPOSIT AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD. WHAT ELSE DID YOU. >> THE AMENDMENTS? WELL, WE NEED TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MID YEAR BUDGET REPORT, PRESENTATION OF THE SOUTH CITY CIP, APPROVE ALL DECISION PACKAGES. I RESPECT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING AS TO THE CROSSING GUARDS, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE EXPRESS DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT AND CONTRIBUTION FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS ADJACENT TO THEIR SCHOOLS. IF WE HAVE ANY CROSSING GUARDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THE SAME THING TO THOSE PRIVATE. >> IF IT'S A FORMAL BILL, GIVE THEM A FORMAL BILL FOR THIS THING. >> A COVER LETTER. IT'S JUST AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF OUR. WE ARE ASKING HALF. >> JUST REIMBURSEMENT OR CONTRIBUTION, THAT'S IT. >> YES. WE GIVE THEM A BILL FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT. >> WE'RE PAYING THIS AMOUNT. CAN YOU REIMBURSE OR CONTRIBUTE CERTAIN AMOUNT? >> WE CAN GET MORE. >> LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION. NOW, WE NEED TO AGREE THOUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE REQUESTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND EVEN MORE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF. LET'S SEE. >> WHEN YOU SAY APPROVE THESE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PAYING OUT ALL OF THE BUDGET BUDGET RESPONSE DECISION PACKAGE. >> DECISION PACKAGE? THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT WAS IT. >> WE'LL COMBINE THAT INTO A MOTION. I WOULD SECOND YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR HAVING THOSE TWO OR SHOULD I? YOU JUST. I'LL DO THAT. AGREE TO ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES. WE'RE SAYING YES, TO ITEM NUMBER 3 AND 11. >> ELEVEN AND 12 AND DIRECT FROM THE CITY MANAGER FOR REIMBURSEMENT. >> FOR REIMBURSEMENTS ADJACENT TO SCHOOLS. >> IS THAT WAS WHAT WE HAVE IN ANY PRIVATE SCHOOL AND GET AN UPDATE FOR THE PROSECUTION SERVICE OR HERMOSA FOR THAT POTENTIAL REVENUE. PAY FOR THIS. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> WE ALSO SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION ON THE FIREWORKS. >> DO YOU GUYS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE OPTIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH CITY STAFF. MAYBE HAVE IT FOR TWO FIREWORK SHOWS, MAYBE FOR THE SAME FIREWORK PRICE AMOUNT, HAVE IT TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS, HAVE IT THERE FOR, POSSIBLY TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS, MAYBE IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE BARGE. >> HOW ABOUT JUST COME BACK WITH DIRECTION THAT WE'D LIKE IT ON THE WATER? >> WHAT CAN YOU NEGOTIATE? ON LAND AND WATER? JUST ON THE WATER. >> WHAT? I THOUGHT WE WERE CONGEALING. >> WHEN I SAY LAND. JUST OFF THAT, PLACE THE SEA SIDE? >> IN THE WATERFRONT. >> ON THE WATER FRONT. >> THAT WORKS FOR ME. DIRECTION. >> YOU DON'T NEED TO ME YOU'VE GIVEN DIRECTION. >> I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF IF WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTING TO A CONTRACT SO WE CAN PURSUE THOSE OPTIONS. >> I WOULD THEN PUT IN THEN THE MOTION TO INCLUDE COMMIT TO A CONTRACT AND TALK TO THE SAID FIREWORKS COMPANY AND BARGE COMPANY, PROVIDE DIFFERENT OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD. >> NO, BARGE. BARGE IS LIKE THREE CROSSING GUARDS. >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE MAY BE IT IS. HE'S SAYING THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OPTIONS. >> THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OPTIONS. ALSO THE DIRECTION IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED TO GO TO THE LEASEHOLDERS AND THE HOTELIERS DOWN THERE WHO IF THEY CAN SEE IF THEY CAN CHIP IN SOME MONEY, OTHERWISE, THEY WANT TO GET A FIREWORK SHOW. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD. CAR STICK WITH THEM. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ALL THOSE THINGS. >> I'D LIKE YOU TO ALSO CONSIDER OUR TREASURER'S REQUEST TO START THE TOT DISCUSSION. >> THE TOT DISCUSSION, IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN NEHRENHEIM. WILL ALSO INCLUDE WHETHER WE HAD TO INCREASE THE TOURISM ASSESSMENT RATE AND WHETHER WE SHOULD OR COULD HAVE DISPARATE TOT RATES. >> I'D BE AMENABLE TO HAVING A CONVERSATION. THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO CORRECT THE TREASURER ON SOMETHING AND GOING INTO THE COASTAL ZONE. IF WE DO SOMETHING JUST FOR THE COASTAL ZONE, THE COASTAL COMMISSION IS GOING TO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. [05:10:03] THEY'RE NOT VERY HAPPY WITH US TAXING THE COASTAL ZONE AT A HIGHER RATE THAN THE REST OF THE. >> AN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD DO IT CITYWIDE, BUT THEN HAVE A FOR NEW HOTEL SOME PAUSE OR BLACKOUT. A RAMP UP. WHAT ARE OPTIONS ARE? >> I JUST GETTING A BALL ROLLING IS YEAH, JUST A DISCUSSION. THAT'S ALL YOU GET. >> LET'S PUT A DEADLINE ON THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'VE GONE NOW ALMOST, SEVEN MONTHS WITHOUT IT. >> NEXT WEEK. >> THREE MONTHS? YOU WANT IT YOU WANT TO HAVE IT IN APRIL? YOU WANT TO HAVE IT. >> WHEN DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT? >> APRIL? IS THAT DOABLE? >> WELL, IT'S JUST THE INITIAL ITEM. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK. IT'S IT'S A DISCUSSION REPORT AND A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. WE CAN DO IT MAY. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT EARLY MAY, WE CAN DO IT EARLY MAY. >> I WORK YOURSELF A LITTLE. YEAH. >> I EARLY MAY WORKS, WE CAN GO EARLY MAY. >> I WILL SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE LANAKILA EXEMPTION. BUT I I DON'T SEE WHY YOU PICKED THAT ONE AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS LISTED IN THE BRR AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY LIKE A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WE SHOULD HAVE STRICT CRITERIA OF IT. ALL THE OTHER THINGS I DO AGREE WITH, BUT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH INCLUDING BRR. >> THEY ARE ASKING FOR JUST A ONE TIME. >> RIGHT. BUT THEN DO WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO RENT THINGS, LET'S SAY AT THE LAGOON AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DONATE A PERCENTAGE OF OUR PROCEEDS TO THE POLICE. >> THIS IS ALL I'M JUST SAYING AND SLIPPERY SLOPE. >> I AGREE. >> I UNDERSTAND. THESE ARE GOOD. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE HARBOR AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE HARBOR COMMUNITY. >> CAREFUL ON THAT. >> THE FIRES ARE HUGE. >> NO. I LIKE IT ALL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BARRETT, ARE YOU STILL THERE? >> YEAH, STILL WAITING. >> YOU GOT YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU. WAS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION, OR WE STILL DISCUSSION. I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IT FOCUSES IN ON THE CROSSING GUARDS, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE CROSSING GUARDS AT ARTESIA AND THE BIKE PATH WHERE THE KID WAS HIT, LITERALLY HIT. THIS ISN'T HYPOTHETICAL, AND ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT. I'M GOING TO STAND UP FOR ENGLEWOOD AND GRANT AND MAKE IT UNDERSTOOD. THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S CONTINGENT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOT THROWING IN 100 K, SPLITTING ALL COST IN HALF. THEY GOT TO BE 50 50 PARTNERS ON THIS. IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN WE HAVE TO REASSESS OUR WHOLE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM BECAUSE WE CAN'T SUSTAIN IT. WE CAN'T. TRUE. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. ADD IN THESE TWO FOR NOW. WE NEED TO COME BACK, AND IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY BALL, THEN THEY'VE TIED OUR HANDS AND THE WHOLE THING COLLAPSES. >> THEN WE POINT THE FINGER. >> NOT ABOUT POINTING THE FINGERS. THAT'S MY SUBSTITUTE, IF I CAN FINISH THAT THOUGHT. >> IS IT EVERYTHING PLUS THE CROSSING GUARD OR JUST. >> NOT QUITE. I GOT SOMETHING ELSE. >> BUT THAT'S THE CROSSING GUARD POINT. I WANT TO THE CITY. >> HE'S GOING THROUGH HIS MOTION RIGHT. OKAY. WE GIVE CIT MANAGER AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE THAT DOWN. >> CROSSING GUARDS ADDITION, BUT IT'S CONTINGENT ON A 50,50 SPLIT OF ALL COSTS WITH THE DISTRICT. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET IT IN PLAY. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE FUNDING FOR THE 25 K FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS. ONE AT ARTESIA AND THE BIKE PATH, ONE AT ENGLEWOOD GREEN. >> WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR. IMPLEMENTING AT THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE PUTTING THE MONEY OUT THERE. THEN IT'S CONTINUATION IS CONTINGENT CONTINUATION. >> ALL OF OUR CROSSING GUARDS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO A REASSESSMENT AS TO WHETHER WE COULD AFFORD THAT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE AT THIS POINT. HALF MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR, 550, SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS TO COME IN 50 50 PARTNERS, NOT JUST WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY DO. IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE'LL BE BACK AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN ON THE CROSSING GUARDS. INTO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, WHAT ELSE? THE BR NUMBER 12 FOR THE FREE B DOWN AT THE SEASIDE LAGOON. WE CAN'T DO IT. WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE FREE TOO. WE'RE TIGHT ON OUR BUDGETS. WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. THE ENTIRE, WE'VE GOT ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE AND EVERYBODY ELSE. 02,700 HERE, TEN GRAND THERE. NOBODY'S BEING A GRINCH. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A FIRM POLICY IN PLACE THAT AT THE SEASIDE LAGOON, NO MATTER HOW HONORABLE YOUR CAUSE IS AND HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT IT, WE CAN'T JUST HAND OUT THE FEE. I'M NO ON BRR 12. [05:15:02] THEN ON THE TOT, LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION. LET'S HAVE IT OPEN WITH RESPECT TO HOTELS. DO WE DO A MORATORIUM? WHAT ARE THE RATES, ETC SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE OPEN. IF STAFF CAN COME FULLY PREPARED, AS I KNOW YOU WANT TO BE WITH ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE INFORMATION, AND THEN WE COULD COME IN MAY. IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, THEN YOU NEED MORE TIME. THEN LASTLY, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED DIRECTION, BUT I WOULD ADD DIRECTION IF NEEDED FOR THE DALE PAGE PARK, MAKE SURE THAT 30 K, WHICH IS EARMARKED FOR DALE PAGE ACTUALLY IS LOCKED IN AND STARTS GETTING USED. CONTACT THE UTILITY IF IT HASN'T BEEN CONTACTED ALREADY, FIND OUT WHICH OF THE THREE SHADE STRUCTURES ARE ACTUALLY DOABLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DRILL DEEP INTO THE GAS LINE. WHAT CAN WE DO THERE AND HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST AND THEN COME BACK ON THAT? >> THAT'S THE FIREWORK. >> WHAT ABOUT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON FIREWORKS? >> ON THE FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, HOW SPECIFIC OF A DIRECTION? I LOVE NELS ARNHEIM'S POINT. CAN WE DO A TWO NIGHT SHOW THIS YEAR? GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE, HAVE THE WATERFRONT BUSINESSES AND THE HOTELS PITCH IN, TWO NIGHTS OF FIREWORKS. THE COSTS HAVE TOTALLY GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL WITH THE TUGS. I MEAN. EXPLORE THAT I REDONDO UNION, IF THERE'S COLD WATER ALL OVER THAT, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, SO BE IT, BUT LET'S FIND OUT IF THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION. IF YOU NEED MORE CONCRETE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE FIREWORKS, LET US KNOW. >> I THINK WHAT I REALLY NEED IS FIREWORKS IN GENERAL. IT SOUNDS I'M HEARING FIREWORKS. >> THAT'S THE IMPORTANT SHOW A HUNDRED THOUSAND. >> AT THIS POINT, LET'S SEE IF THE PEOPLE DOWN AT THE FOLKS, ARE PARTNERS DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT AND THE HOTELS ARE GOING TO PITCH IN AND IF WE COULD DO A TWO NIGHT SHOW AS COUNCIL MEMBER NEAR AND I, MAYBE THIS HAPPENS THIS YEAR AFTER ALL, BUT IT'S A HUGE NUMBER. IT'S ALMOST ONE POLICE OFFICER FOR A YEAR. >> IT'S IT'S ALL GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR. >> IT'S ALL GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR. >> WHAT ABOUT THE VETERANS PORT? >> EVERYTHING ELSE IS FINE. >> THE PLAQUES IN TIME FOR MEMORIAL DAY? >> YES. EVERYTHING IN THAT MOTION. >> WELL, SECONDLY WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. NOT IF YOU NEED MORE TIME FOR THE TOT DISCUSSION. WE'LL HAVE IT BY MAY OR APRIL. BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD AFTER THE LAST BUDGET PASSED, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD IT. WE JUST GOT ANOTHER BRR. >> ACCEPTED FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ACCEPTED. THAT'S THE MOTION. >> YOU'RE STILL WITH ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES. THE RECEIVE AND FILE? >> YES. >> ANYTHING ELSE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> WELL, YEAH. >> JUST SAY IT. I'LL SAY IT FOR YOU. >> I'VE DEDICATED A BIG CHUNK OF MY LIFE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN AND WE'RE ADDING TO THE 27 WE HAVE. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 29. >> I THINK WE'RE GOING FOR 25-27. >> TWENTY FIVE TO 27. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEN IT'S ALL GOING TO COME CRASHING DOWN EASIER SAID THAN DONE. IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO PULL BACK. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND BOTH CALLERS, I'VE LIVED IT. I HAD TO WALK BOTH OF MY KIDS ACROSS BURL, AND IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS, AND I COMPLETELY GET IT. BUT NOW WE'RE ADDING TO THIS. I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT DOING THIS BEFORE WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN THIS LETTER TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE'RE AT $552,000. THAT'S AN INSANE AMOUNT OF MONEY. >> SORRY, YOU WERE CORRECT, COUNCILMAN, 27-29. >> UNTIL THEY'RE STUDIED, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, BUT I REALLY WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. >> IT'S A VERY FAIR POINT. >> I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP FOR FOLKS. I THINK ALL OF US, AS CHIEF HOFFMAN WOULD SAY, WOULD LOVE TO PUT ON EVERY CORNER. WE'RE REACHING [OVERLAPPING] A SATURATION POINT. IT'S REALLY STARTING TO ENCROACH ON THE REST OF THE BUDGET. WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'VE GIVEN TWO SROS AND WE ONLY GET $100,000. THAT'S $400,000 PLUS OF SALARY AND BENEFITS. WE KEEP GIVING AND GIVING, AND WE SHOULD BECAUSE THIS IS A REFLECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS. THEY PAY PROPERTY TAXES. >> STUDENTS ARE OUR RESIDENTS. >> STUDENTS ARE OUR RESIDENTS, AND I GET THAT, BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS $100+ MILLION OPERATING BUDGET. I KNOW THEIR BUDGET REALLY WELL, I HELPED BALANCE IT FOR EIGHT YEARS. THEY NEED TO HELP US SOMEHOW, AND I'M VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT ADDING TO THIS WITHOUT HAVING [05:20:02] THAT DISCUSSION AND THEN DOING IT RATHER THAN ADDING IT RIGHT AWAY AND THEN TAKING IT AWAY. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY DISAPPOINT A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> THE LION'S SHARE OF THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM TOO. >> THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. THEY GIVE A LOT TOO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> WELL, THEY DO IN THAT REGARD. THEY DO PROVIDE US LOWER COST FACILITY USE FOR THAT PROGRAM. THAT'S ONE OF THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. >> A LOT OF US WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BOND OR WHATEVER, AND WE ALL CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS. WE'RE ONLY TALKING A FEW MONTHS UNTIL BUDGET TIME COMES. ANYWAY, I'D BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT IT. I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT AS IT STANDS. >> WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THOSE ARE ALL VALID POINTS. WE'LL REVISIT INCLUDING THESE TWO, THE LAST IN COULD BE THE FIRST OUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING, BUT LET'S KEEP THEM IN FOR NOW WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE MAY NOT BE PERMANENT. OTHER POSITIONS MAY NOT BE PERMANENT. YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHETHER YOU WANT TO FOLD IN THERE THE SRO DISCUSSION, SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER TIME, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THESE CROSSING GUARDS. I THINK WE COULD FUND THEM FOR THIS PERIOD, COME BACK AND REVISIT. THE PUBLIC WILL UNDERSTAND, WILL HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED BY ME WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> WON'T BE BY ME. >> THAT'S THE MOTION. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING COUNCIL MEMBER? >> WELL, I CAN COUNT TO FOUR, AND I REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOUR ON THE CROSSING GUARDS. >> LET'S FIND OUT. >> WE DON'T HAVE FOUR ON THE [INAUDIBLE]. IN THE HOPES OF MOVING THIS FORWARD WITH THE FOUR OF THIS VOTE THAT WE NEED, LET'S JUST FOCUS ON THOSE TWO THINGS. WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE? ARE WE JUST GOING TO FOREGO THOSE TWO? BUT INCLUDE THE DIRECTION THE CITY MANAGERS SEEK REIMBURSEMENT. THEN WE'LL REVISIT THE CROSSING GUARDS COME JUNE BASED ON WHAT WE [OVERLAPPING] >> WE TAKE BOTH OF THEM OUT. VOTE ON THE FIRST OF IT. FIRST TAKING OUT LAKELA AND TAKING OUT THE CROSSING YARD. IF YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER BARREN, THEN CUT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. IF IT'S THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU, THERE'S PLENTY OF ITEMS TO CUT. WE HAVE $118 MILLION BUDGET, YOU CAN CUT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. >> WE WILL DO THAT WHEN WE RETURN IN JUNE. WE'LL TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. >> DO THAT RIGHT NOW. BY THE WAY, AS THE POLICE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT, BY THE TIME WE GET THIS ONLINE, IT'S MID FEBRUARY NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE APRIL AT THE EARLIEST, AND IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY END UP REQUIRING RESTAFFING WITH POLICE OFFICERS OR MSOS AT THESE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER BUDGET HIT. IT'S FAR MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS $25,000. >> WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT WE COULD GET. IT'S A GOOD POINT. I WAS JUST GOING TRY AND SAY, IT'S A GOOD POINT, WE'LL SEE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THESE CROSSING GUARDS AT THESE TWO LOCATIONS. IT MAY BE MAY, IT MAY BE JUNE, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN JUNE ON THE BUDGET TO DISCUSS THAT. >> AREA SUBSTITUTE THE SUBSTITUTE, CAN YOU LIGHT UP 3A PLEASE? RETURN ALL 16 BRR, RECEIVE AND FILE IMMEDIATE BUDGET FILE REPORT BLAH, BLAH, ADOPT BY 4/5 VOTE, APPROVE ALL DECISION PACKAGES, NO BRR NUMBER 3, BUT DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS ADJACENT TO OUR VSD SCHOOLS AND ANY PRIVATE SCHOOLS. BRR NUMBER 11, HIGH TAILS. IT'S HERE BY VETERANS DAY OR MEMORIAL DAY. >> IT'S MY CARE. >> THEN BRR 4, WE HAD USED SO YOU WOULD ADDRESS. WE DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THAT. JUST PRO-RATING THE PARKING PERMIT FEE. >> YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE, I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. IT'S BASICALLY TO DIRECT US TO COME BACK WITH A REVISION OF THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE [OVERLAPPING] >> [OVERLAPPING] MAKE YOU DO THAT. >> NO, I WAS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS BRR, WAS THE DIRECTION ORIGINALLY. >> THEN ON THE FIREWORKS, LESS THAN 100,000. >> WE'VE GIVEN THEM DIRECTION. >> WHAT IS IT? >> WE'VE GIVEN THEM MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS, MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT. THEY KNOW [OVERLAPPING] >> [OVERLAPPING] $125,000 FOR A BARGE. >> I THINK YOUR INPUTS ARE ALL PRETTY CLEAR ON THAT. >> THEN THE INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION ABOUT TOT, ALL THINGS ON THE TABLE. THEN BRINGING ALL THE BRRS BACK. THAT'S IT. >> NO BRR 311, [05:25:02] AND WE SAID NO 112? >> YEAH. >> I WILL SECOND THAT BECAUSE I GENUINELY DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO STAFF THOSE. >> FAST ENOUGH. >> FAST ENOUGH, AND IT'S NOT. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DON'T NEED TO STAY HERE FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES GOING BACK AND FORTH ON IT. [LAUGHTER] BUT I THINK WE BEAT IT TO DEATH, BUT YES. I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. >> HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT SO WE CAN GO AND STAFF SOME OF THESE. >> THIS IS MY TOP PRIORITY IN THE NEXT BUDGET AND HOPEFULLY [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, ALL DECISION PACKAGES, YOU'RE RECEIVING FILES. THEN JUST TO ADD THE DIRECTION ON TOT NUMBER 14, I GUESS WE HAVE TO DO DIRECTION ON THE, YOU DIDN'T SAY DECISION PACKAGES. >> IT'S ON TOP. >> HE'S GOT IT AT THE TOP. >> RIGHT HERE. >> HOW YOU SAID BRR IS WHEN YOU SAID IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR? >> AYE. >> ANYBODY A NO? >> I'M A NO, AND HERE'S WHY. BECAUSE THE CHILD WHO HAS HIT AT ARTESIA ON THE BIKE PATH, I KNOW PERSONALLY. I'VE COACHED HIM ON MY SOCCER TEAM. HE'S A CAREFUL PERSON, AND THIS WAS COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE WITH A CROSSING GUARD. I'M A NO. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> I SAY TO LANAKILA, I'LL HELP YOU FUND RAISE FOR THAT $2,700. I'VE GOT A NICE LITTLE CAMPAIGN GOING RIGHT NOW AND WE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE, SO I'LL HELP YOU OUT. IT'S NOT MUCH. >> FIVE TO FOUR. GOING ON TO CITY MANAGER ITEMS. >> WAIT A MINUTE. >> I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> [OVERLAPPING] AND BY TITLE ON RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2502007, A RESOLUTION CITY COUNCIL REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA MODIFIED THE BUDGET [OVERLAPPING] >> HE'S GOT TO FIX HIS MESS. >> 2024, 2025. THANK YOU. >> YOU SPOON? >> CITY MANAGER ITEMS. [Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF] ANY MAYOR OR COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM? >> NO, I DON'T THINK I DO. LET ME GO CHECK. LET ME COME BACK TO ME. >> SAID COME BACK. >> COUNCIL MEMBER LOEWENSTEIN. >> NO, THANK YOU. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO PILE IT UP FOR WHEN YOU'RE NOT HERE? [LAUGHTER] >> I WANT TO BE FAIR TO PEOPLE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. >> I DO. I HAVE TWO. I'D LIKE TO GET A REPORT ON ALL FACILITY USES AND FEES COLLECTED ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE USES FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE BEING USED, WHO'S USING THEM. IN THE CONVERSATION OF OUR REVENUE, WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S ONE. >> IF THAT'S A BUDGET REPORT, SINCE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FLOW THROUGH TO REVENUE AND HAVE THAT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION OR YOU WANT TO HAVE A STAND ALONE DISCUSSION ABOUT FACILITY USE? >> NO, THIS IS ROLLED INTO THE DISCUSSION OF STRATEGIC PLAN AND REVENUES. SAME WITH THIS SECOND ITEM. A REPORT ON REVENUES BROKEN DOWN BY ZIP CODE. AS WE DISCUSSED, BUSINESS IN THE CITY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE REVENUE IS COMING FROM, AND THEN DIRECT THE CONVERSATION TO, WHAT ARE WE PRIORITIZING IN THAT AREA? SORRY, I FORGOT THE PART. BROKEN DOWN BY ZIP CODE INTO PROPERTY TAX, TOT TAX, SALES TAX. I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PARKING REVENUE, WHICH IS ALL IN SOUTH. BUT THOSE BIG BUCKETS BY ZIP CODE. >> IF I COULD ASK, CITY MANAGER, DO YOU SEE ANY UTILITY TO DOING THAT? NUMBER 1, AND NUMBER 2, WHAT'S THE BAND WITH THE STAFF TO START DOING ALL THAT STUFF, AND CAN YOU GET IT? >> AS LONG AS IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF BUDGET, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE IT. THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO US, IT DOES TAKE SOME MINING. I CAN PROVIDE IT, WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH IT AS A POLICY MATTER IS REALLY YOUR CALL. >> HOW MANY HOURS OF STAFF TIME APPROXIMATELY? >> IT'S PROBABLY 5-10. >> FIVE TO 5 TO 10? >> BUT MOST BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS ARE IN THAT. I'D SAY THE EASY BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS FALL IN THE 2-5 HOURS OF RESEARCH AND PREPARATION, THE MORE DIFFICULT ONES CAN BE 10-20 HOURS OF RESEARCH, IT JUST DEPENDS. IF THIS IS A BUDGET RESPONSE REPORT, CONTEXTUALLY IT'S WITHIN OUR NORMAL EFFORTS. IF IT'S A STANDALONE DISCUSSION ON ITEM, IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT EXERCISE. >> TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS WRAPPED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THERE ABOUT ADDRESSING BUSINESS IN THE CITY. >> THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE. >> FACILITY LEASES IS LIKE EVERY LEASE IN THE HARBOR? [05:30:05] >> ALL OF OUR CITY LEASES, ALTA VISA AND WHATEVER. WE JUST INCREASED ALL THE FEES FOR THAT AND I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S IMPACTING [OVERLAPPING] >> [OVERLAPPING] LEASEHOLDERS IN EARTH? >> NO, JUST CITY-OWNED PROPERTY THAT IS FOR LEASE BY DAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> I GOT YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? >> I DO. >> THAT'S A BRR. >> SURE. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. >> CORRECT. >> THAT IT? >> YES, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. >> NO, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. >> NONE. >> I HAVE NONE. >> COUNCILMAN NEHRENHEIM. >> NO, I'D LOOKED. I DON'T KNOW. >> NOTHING? >> NO. >> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF RAY BENNING. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MR. RAY BENNING, AND TO SAY A FEW WORDS. HE WAS A COMMISSIONER WELL BEFORE I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, REDONDO. WE WERE ON THE SAME SIDE FOR A LOT OF ITEMS AND WE WERE ON OPPOSITE SIDES AND A LOT OF ITEMS. WHAT I LOVED ABOUT MR. BENNING WAS, I ALWAYS KNEW WHERE I STOOD. I SAW HIM A FEW TIMES, ONE TIME I SAW HIM EL TOR ASCO, HE CAME OVER AND SAID, HEY, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE WHOLE FIRE DEPARTMENT THING. WE TALKED, HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. WASN'T THE FIRST TIME, ACTUALLY. BUT WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE WITH MR. BENNING IS THAT HIS FORTHRIGHTNESS, WHAT WE BELIEVED IN. PEOPLE LIKE THAT HAVE TO HONOR WITH WHAT THEY SAY. THEY SAY WHAT THEY BELIEVE. THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY. THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I DIDN'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF IT, I AGREED WITH A LOT OF IT. IT'S 50, 50, DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SUBJECT WAS. LEGATO ISSUE, WE COMPLETELY AGREED WITH IT. IT WAS AMAZING CONVERSATION, AND OTHER ITEMS WE DIDN'T AGREE AT ALL. BUT ONE THING WE DEFINITELY AGREED ON WAS THAT WE BOTH LOVE THE CITY. HE ONLY LIVED A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY FROM ME. PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN AND TAKE PART IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AS A COMMISSION MEMBER, IT'S REALLY SPECIAL AND REALLY COOL. A REALLY BIG, HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. I'LL BE MISSING HIS COMMENTS AND HIS INPUT EVERYWHERE. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> DID WE GET A SECOND? [LAUGHTER] >> SECOND. >> MOTION A SECOND. >> A FOR? >> AYE. >> MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.