Mar 17, 2025 Public Safety Commission

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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COMMISSIONERS AND COMMUNITY, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

MONDAY, MARCH 17. REGULAR MEETING, NO SPECIAL MEETING THIS TIME.

WE GET TO OUR AGENDA. ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GAUL IS ABSENT AT THIS TIME.

COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM? PRESENT. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK, BUDDY.

WELCOME BACK. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA? PRESENT. AND COMMISSIONER WODNICKI? PRESENT. ROLL CALL COMPLETE. WE JUST PLEDGE.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA OR IF THERE ARE ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WANT MOVED AROUND MAKE A MOTION,

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

SORRY. ORDER OF AGENDA. YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING MOVED AROUND.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA. JUST A VIP PROGRAM PRESENTATION.

WE WANT TO MOVE J4. J1. J1. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION? SECOND? I'LL SECOND. WHAT WAS THE MOTION? TO MOVE ITEM J4 AHEAD OF J1.

THAT WAS BY COMMISSIONER SKIBA. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

SECOND BY COMMISSION ESCONTRIAS. NO. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

SORRY. I KNOW. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOVED. ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? NEGATIVE. CONSENT CALENDAR, APPROVE AFFIDAVIT OF

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FEBRUARY 27, 2025.

MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED. WE NEED A SECOND. SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SKIBA TO APPROVE. THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECONDED BY ESCONTRIAS.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOVED. APPROVED.

I LIKE THIS NEW PERSON. MINUTES YES, I SAW THAT. ANY EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? NEGATIVE. AGENDA ITEM H, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES ON ANY ITEM THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON OUR AGENDA, WE'LL ALLOW 30 MINUTES FOR THIS PARTICIPATION.

ANYONE ONLINE? NO ZOOM PARTICIPANTS. LET ME REFRESH HERE ON THE COMMENTS REAL QUICK.

ZERO E COMMENTS. JUST GOING TO DO ONE LAST CHECK OF THE EMAIL.

THEN YOU CAN SOLICIT THE AUDIENCE. THE ONE TIME I DIDN'T CHECK EMAIL, I WOULD HAVE ONE FROM ONE MINUTE AGO.

YOU KNOW THAT. WE HAD A LATE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IT CAME BY EMAIL SO HE'S GOING TO CHECK THAT REAL QUICK BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP. GOOD TO GO. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO? ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE. DON'T HURRY. PLEASE STATE AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE MINUTE SECRETARY.

SCOTT CROWELL, C-R-O-W-E-L-L. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHAT DISTRICT?

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GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SCOTT CROWELL.

I LIVE AT 517 AVENUE G IN DISTRICT 1. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS A SAFETY CONCERN AT THE INTERSECTION OF AVENUE G AND PALOS VERDE BOULEVARD. WELL, THE INTERSECTION AT F HAS A FOUR WAY STOP.

MANY MOTORISTS DON'T EVEN BOTHER DOING WHAT WE CALL A CALIFORNIA STOP.

THEY JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH IT. THIS MAKES IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT AT AVENUE G DURING MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOURS.

I FIRST RAISED THIS ISSUE ON MAY 24, THROUGH A COM CAT REQUEST NUMBER 42425 NOTING HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO NAVIGATE THE AREA.

TO REACH LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE SWEETWET, I HAVE TO MAKE A WRITE ON PV, A U TURN AT F, AND THEN A WRITE ON G JUST TO GET OUT.

IT'S THAT BAD. IN JULY 2024, THE CITY CONDUCTED A QUERY WITH RESIDENTS LIVING 150 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION ABOUT INSTALLING A FOUR WAY STOP THERE AND IT FAILED.

THAT'S AS FAR AS IT'S GOTTEN. THE PROBLEM STILL PERSISTS.

I UNDERSTAND OFFICERS ARE VERY RELUCTANT ABOUT DOING TRAFFIC TICKETS BECAUSE THAT NOW MEANS IT'S CHALLENGED.

IT'S TRAFFIC COURT. THAT'S MORE TIME INSTEAD OF WORKING IN THE CITY, THAT THEY'RE SAYING IN A COURT ROOM FOR THIS.

I ASK THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE.

I'VE EXHAUSTED EVERYTHING I CAN POSSIBLY DO, BUT THE SAFETY ISSUE IS STILL THERE.

I'VE SEEN RUNNERS AND WALKERS NEARLY GET HIT BECAUSE IT'S UPHILL COMING FROM PCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU DON'T MIND, CLARIFYING QUESTION.

YOU SAID THAT IN JULY 2024 THERE WAS A QUERY MADE OF RESIDENTS ABOUT PUTTING IN A FOUR WAY STOP? THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY COMMISSIONER.

THEN YOU SAID IT FAILED. DO YOU KNOW WHY? THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH VOTES.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE LOCATION? I'M FAMILIAR WITH PCH AND PV DRIVE AND GOING UP THE HILL.

IS THERE A BUSINESS THAT'S CLOSE THERE OR SOMETHING THAT CAN JOG MY MEMORY THE EXACT INTERSECTION? AVENUE G AND AVENUE F ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL. OH.

SAME THING IN THE AFTERNOON COMING HOME. THEY GO THAT WAY YOU GET BACK UP TO THE PENINSULA.

THAT'S A VERY BUSY ROAD? YES, IT IS. QUICK QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER BLAIR IS THE MINUTES PERSON.

NO. THE MINUTES PERSON, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW.

GOT IT. THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK WAS COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

NO. SORRY. IS IT PRIMARILY PEDESTRIANS OR VEHICLES OR BOTH THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN THAT SPACE? BOTH. BOTH. BICYCLES TOO. DIDN'T WE JUST PUT BIKE LANES THERE? NO? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ITEM I. I1. DISCUSSION REGARDING AND REQUESTING CITY MANAGER STAFF TO PRESENT INFORMATION ON ITEMS IN THE

[I. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS]

I1 IS SOMETHING WE'VE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD. WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER WODNICKI WAS ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE LIST. DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LIST AND COME UP WITH, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR CITY MANAGER WAZANSKI TO TALK TO US ABOUT OR AT LEAST GIVE US FOLKS TO PRESENT, OR DO WE NEED ANOTHER TIME TO LOOK AT THE LIST? ABOUT HOW MANY TOPICS DID COUNCILMAN NEHRENHEIM MENTION? NO. WE'RE ON I1. NEHRENHEIM IS I2. I DO THINK THERE'S SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN THE TWO.

THESE DISCUSSIONS FEEL FREE. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

THE COUNCILMAN'S LIST AND OF THE CITY MANAGER.

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HOLD ON. LET ME GET THE RIGHT ATTACHMENT. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT I1 ATTACHMENT 10/8/2024, 01,2,3. IT'S ITEM 5, I WANT TO SAY I'M CLICKING RIGHT NOW.

WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ITEM 5 ON HERE, THERE'S 22 ITEMS AND DECIDE, THIS IS IMPORTANT.

THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. YAY, NAY. WE CAN TAKE MORE TIME TO GO OVER IT SINCE HE DID COME AND TALK ABOUT '25/'26. THIS ISSUE MAY BE MOOT. IN WHICH CASE IT CAN GO AWAY.

I SEE YOU.

WELL, DIDN'T THEY ADD A COUPLE. COMMISSIONER SKIBA? DIDN'T THEY ADD A COUPLE OF MOTOR OFFICERS ALSO? I THINK SO. I THINK THEY DID. I THINK THAT'S ON THIS LIST.

HERE ARE THINGS I'LL POINT OUT THAT I FEEL LIKE ARE STILL RELEVANT.

THERE WAS A REQUEST ABOUT ITEM 4, AN UPDATE ON THE HOMELESS HOUSING SUPERVISOR.

THAT'S WHO LILA WOULD REPORT INTO. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS STILL SOMETHING WE WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE CROSSING GUARD NUMBER 5. DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS STILL IMPORTANT.

THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PART TIME STAFFING, NUMBER 6.

WELL, NUMBER 14 WAS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCACY PROGRAM.

I KNOW THAT. I'M JUST CALLING OUT WHAT I THINK MAY STILL BE RELEVANT.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT. I DON'T SEE THE OFFICERS ON THIS LIST. BUT IF WE NEED MORE TIME, THAT'S FINE, OR IF IT'S ALL MOOT, THEN THAT'S FINE TOO. WHEN ARE THEY MEETING? THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

SORRY. WHEN ARE THEY MEETING? NO. THIS IS THE OVERALL BUDGET FROM 2024/'25.

THESE WERE THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD UNDER THE HEADER OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS LIST, WE WERE LIKE, WELL, MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO WE WANT? THEN EVERYONE IS GOING TO GIVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, SORT OF RANK CHOICE TO SAY, THIS IS IMPORTANT. I STILL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS. I STILL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

LAST MONTH, CITY MANAGER WAZANSKI CAME AND PRESENTED ON THE '25/'26TH BUDGET.

THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, THIS MAY BE MOOT JUST BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED AND WHERE WE ARE.

IT'S ON THE AGENDA. IT'S A CONTINUATION TO JUST WANT TO EITHER KEEP IT OR KICK IT.

TO COMMISSIONER WODNICKI'S POINT, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR WAS THAT CITY COUNCIL, WHOEVER, SWING BY AND SAY HELLO. THEN COUNCILMEMBER NEHRENHEIM CAME BY.

THAT'S I2. SOME OF THE THINGS WERE ALREADY ON THE BUDGET FROM CITY MANAGER, THEN HE CAME AND RAISES AN INFLECTION POINT.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR AGAIN. SORRY. IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, EVERYTHING THAT IS ON HERE HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

IT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE '24/'25 BUDGET? CORRECT.

AT THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND PLANNED FOR IN THE BUDGET UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SEE AN UPDATE ON THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED. THAT WAS THE QUESTION. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCACY PROGRAM. THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ON HERE THAT WE WERE LIKE, HEY, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO UPDATE ON THAT.

CAN WE GET EITHER CITY MANAGER OR HIM DESIGNATE SOMEONE TO COME? PROVIDES AN UPDATE. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO GET AN UPDATE ON.

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THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE NOT 14. THAT IS 14. CORRECT.

YOU'RE CORRECT. I SEE A FEW THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE WITH REGARD TO TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND REPLACING, TAKING CARE OF THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING OR WHERE THEY'RE AT THERE, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL. I AGREE.

WHICH NUMBER IS THAT? JUST MAKE A MOTION? THAT'S FINE.

SORRY. THIRTEEN PD BODY CAM, VEHICLE REPLACEMENT 15. OH, 15. EIGHTEEN, THEIR TECHNOLOGIES.

ARE YOU CREATING A LIST? I AM. BUT YOU'RE A SECRETARY TOO.

WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS? THIRTEEN, 14, 15 AND 18.

THIRTEEN, 14, 15, 18 AND 2018. IF I MAY ADD TO THAT? YES. OH, ABSOLUTELY. TWENTY TWO. TWENTY TWO. THAT'S COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

OH.

COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL HERE. I LIKE NUMBER 6 AS WELL.

WHICH IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OF PART TIME STAFFING RECRUITMENT? CODE ENFORCEMENT. THAT WOULD BE HOW ARE WE STAFFING FOR THAT? I SEE. IS THAT? I ALSO THINK THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PERSONNEL LIFT AT THE PERFORMING ART CENTER IS A PRETTY.

I'M ASSUMING THAT KEEPS US ADA COMPLIANT. EXACTLY.

I AGREE. IT'S MY HUGE HANDICAP RECORD. I'LL JUST DO A QUICK.

COMMISSIONER ARIA, ANY? NO. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

STILL LOOKING. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. COMMISSIONER NINETEEN, IS THAT THE THING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, 19? THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO IT, THOUGH. GO AHEAD. MANDATORY TRAININGS FOR HOUSING DIVISION STAFF.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND MORE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT AN UPDATE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE HOUSING FOLKS JUST DID A PRESENTATION ON IT AT CITY COUNCIL.

WAS IT? LAST TUESDAY? LAST TUESDAY. LET ME DO THIS, I'LL PUT IT ON HERE.

BUT WHAT I TEND TO DO IS IF IT'S SOMEWHERE, I'LL SEND THROUGH KYLE IT OUT TO EVERYONE, AND THEN YOU TELL ME, THEN YOU SEND IT BACK BECAUSE BROWN WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT.

THEN IF YOU SAY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, THEN WE'LL KEEP IT AS A MORE FOR UPDATE.

WHAT NUMBER IS THAT THERE? TEN. TEN, OKAY. REALLY, MY QUESTION WAS SPECIFICALLY, IS IT SAFETY TRAINING FOR THEM? THAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION. I GOT IT.

PERFECT. THE SLIDE NUMBER, BUT IT HAD THIS SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION TAKES THIS TYPE OF TRAINING, THIS TAKES THIS TYPE AND IT EVEN BROKE IT OUT.

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THEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE TRAINING IS HAPPENING? THEN ONE OF THE PEOPLE, I THINK IT WAS THE INTERIM HOUSING MANAGER SAID SOMETHING LIKE THEY POSTED IN LIKE EASY READER AND THEY POSTED IN SOMETHING OR OTHER, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A STAND AND IT SENT IT OUT.

BUT I'LL SEND IT TO YOU THAT WAY. I'M NOT. YES.

IT'S DIFFERENT TYPE, IT'S ROLE BASED TRAINING.

BY ROLE, LIKE IF YOU'RE UNHOUSED, THERE'S TRAINING FOR YOU.

IF YOU'RE A PART OF THE HOUSING TEAM, THERE'S TRAINING FOR THEM, IF YOU'RE LANDLORD FOR SECTION 8, IF YOU'RE A LANDLORD FOR THERE'S TRAINING. THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST GIVE IT ANOTHER MINUTE, AND THEN IT'LL STAY CONTINUED.

IF SOMETHING POPS UP, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE LIST IS.

EIGHTEEN AND 22. EIGHTEEN AND 22 ON THE LIST.

DID YOU ADD 10? I THOUGHT 10 WAS A MAYBE. IS A MAYBE. WHAT DO YOU WANT? DID YOU WANT TO ADD IT? I'M GOING TO PUT IT AS LIKE A SIDE NOTE. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR I-1 TO REMAIN CONTINUED WITH OUR FOCUS BEING ITEM 3, 6, 10, 13, 14, 15, 18, AND 22.

ANY SECOND? I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE.

THAT LAST THING YOU JUST SAID WAS GREAT. EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, I WAS STRUGGLING TO HEAR AND THE TECHNICIAN IS STRUGGLING TO CAPTURE IT CLEARLY FOR THE VIDEO. JUST MOVE THEM A LITTLE CLOSER, I THINK I TURNED THE VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT TOO WITHOUT IT GETTING TOO SCRATCHY.

BUT IF YOU WILL, SPEAK FOR MY SAKE, ALSO BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD IN THE HEARING DEPARTMENT.

WILL DO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE NOTICING THE AWKWARD STARES OF ME TRYING TO READ LIPS ALSO [LAUGHTER] THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. THANKS. NO, YOU'RE OKAY? ITEM I-2 DISCUSSED.

I'M SORRY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES. THERE WE GO. MOTION PASS. ITEM I-2. DISCUSSION REGARDING A LIST OF TOPICS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NILS NEHRENHEIM DURING THE NOVEMBER REGULAR MEETING. THIS IS ANOTHER LIST OF THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

IT'S ONLY FIVE, SO A MUCH SHORTER LIST. BUT NUMBER 1, DISCUSS WHICH ONES WE WANT TO KEEP, WHICH ONES WE WANT TO MOVE ON FROM, AND LASTLY, WHERE DO WE WANT TO PUT THEM IN 2025? APRIL, MAY, JUNE, WHAT MONTH DO WE WANT TO PLAN AND PREP FOR THOSE? KEEP IN MIND, COUNCILMAN NILS NEHRENHEIM IS NO LONGER A COUNCILMEN.

I THINK WE STILL REACH OUT THEM FOR REFERENCE, BUT IT STILL CAME FROM THE COUNCIL.

I PUT IT THAT WAY SINCE THEY WERE OFFERED. WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

ONE, 2, 3, 4, 5. HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED? PROJECT MOONSTONE. PROJECT MOONSTONE. AN UPDATE OR? MORE RECENT POLICE CALLS AND OFFICER INCIDENTS, BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF THE TENANTS. DO YOU WANT

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IS SHE A MOONSTONER OR? SHE'S THE HOMELESS NAVIGATOR.

BUT THEN JOY FORD IS THE ONE WHO'S ABOVE THAT THOSE OTHER THINGS TO.

MAYBE JOY FORD CAN COME BACK AND VISIT WITH US.

THEY DID COMMIT TO COME BACK IN MARCH, APRIL [LAUGHTER] ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THE LIST? I'LL JUST GIVE MY TWO CENTS.

MEASURE FP, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY SENT THE BID OUT FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR SEND A NOTE TO CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF WHOEVER WINS THAT BID JUST COMES IN REGULARLY GIVES US AN UPDATE. I THINK THAT RIGHT.

I THINK I WOULD AGREE. GOOD IDEA. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I AGREE. [LAUGHTER] NUMBER 5, I THINK THAT THAT IS MOOT BASED ON HOW WE PERFORMED THIS YEAR.

I THINK I WANT TO SAY RYAN LIU, OUR CITY ENGINEER, DID A PRESENTATION ON THAT.

IF I COULD I'LL PUSH PAUSE, SEE IF I CAN FIND IT.

I FIGURE WHAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SEND THAT VIDEO TO YOU ALL AND LET ME KNOW IF THAT SATISFIES THAT FACT.

LET US KNOW BECAUSE KYLE SENT IT TO ALL OF US.

I'M SORRY. I'LL HAVE KYLE SEND IT TO ALL OF US.

DO YOU THINK SHE'D COME? LOOK AT THE VIDEO AND SAY, DOES THAT SATISFY FIVE, OR NO, WE NEED MORE.

WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN INVITE RYAN TO GIVE US THAT. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. THANK YOU. REGARDING PROJECT MOONSTONE POLICE CALLS AND OFFICER INCIDENTS, PERHAPS KYLE AND OUR OTHER OFFICERS CAN COME AND REPORT ON THAT RATHER THAN THE MOONSTONE GUYS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS LIKE, DO YOU WANT TO HYBRID OR DID YOU WANT TO JUST DO. OKAY.

YOU CAN ADD TO IT THEN. TWO, OUR CITY MANAGER CAN PROBABLY GIVE US AN UPDATE.

I'M HAPPY TO GO WRITE AN EMAIL TO HAVE KYLE SEND THE CITY MANAGER.

HEY, WHAT'S THE UPDATE ON OUR EMERGENCY COORDINATOR? I ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THEM COME IN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK WE DON'T HAVE ONE, CORRECT? WE DO NOT. IF YOU LOOK, THE BUDGET IS ALMOST 195% INCREASE AND IT'S A DIVISION FIRE CHIEF AND UNDERNEATH IT IS ONE EMPLOYEE AND THAT EMPLOYEES A POSITIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I AGREE [LAUGHTER] WHO THAT DIVISION FIRE CHIEF IS, HOW IS THAT INDIVIDUAL CONDUCTING ALL OF THAT PARAMEDIC TRAINING AND OTHER THINGS OR THAT DIGITAL EMS PLATFORM? THINGS THAT MAYBE THAT STAFF MEMBER WOULD ASSIST WITH IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE FILLING THAT POSITION, AND WHERE HAS ALL OF THAT MONEY GONE TO? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

IS IT GOING TO CARRY OVER, IS IT TO CONTINUE? CARRYING OVER IN '25, '26? I AGREE. JUST WONDERING. GREAT QUESTION. I LOVE THIS LIST. JUST BECAUSE IN THAT CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET OUTLINE, IT SAID UNDER THAT SPECIFIC, I GUESS THEY CALL IT SPECIAL SERVICES.

THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT THEY CONDUCT CLASSES.

THIS COORDINATOR IS NOT DOING THAT, WHO'S DOING IT? THINGS LIKE THAT. I AGREE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

WE TOUCHED ON 2, 3, 4 AND 5. NUMBER 1. I HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH. CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON REAL QUICK? THANKS.

I THINK THE CLARIFICATION SHOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT AND INDICATE MOONSTONE POLICE CALLS AND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AS TO ALL CALLS FOR SERVICE BETWEEN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME FROM ITS INCEPTION

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IN ESSENCE, WHAT OCCURS IS THAT I. I HEAR YOU.

I BELIEVE I NEED TO EXPLAIN SO THAT EVERYBODY ELSE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WE'RE DISCUSSING.

THE IDEA IS ONE IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM WHATEVER SOURCE.

THEN AGAIN, THE ACTUAL RESPONSE. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO OR ASK FOR TOTAL NUMBER OFFICERS RESPONDING TO IT.

AGAIN, THAT CAN FLUCTUATE BASED ON THE TYPE OF CALL THAT IT IS.

UPON ARRIVAL, THEN LATER ON IS, WHAT IS THE DISPOSITION? THAT COULD EITHER BE FALSE CALL, IT COULD BE ONE ARREST, IT COULD JUST BE NO ACTION TAKEN.

BUT AGAIN, MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT OCCURRED.

IF THERE WAS AN ARREST, THEN I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, WHAT WAS THE CHARGE INITIAL? WHAT WAS A FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS FILED? IF IT WAS NOT FILED, THE REASON FOR NOT FILING, AS WE BREAK THAT UP AS WE GO TO EACH STEP OF THIS.

THAT ENSURES DO WE KNOW THAT, ONE, NUMBER OF CALLS, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF IT, BUT I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT LOCATION TO A POINT OF I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME MISINFORMATION OUT THERE OF HOW DRASTIC IT IS OR HOW IT IS. I THINK THAT WOULD GO RIGHT TO IT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY FROM SOMEBODY WHO CALLS ALL THE WAY TO THE FACT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE PROSECUTING PEOPLE. IF WE ARE NOT PROSECUTING PEOPLE, THE REASON WHY WE ARE NOT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY FILING POLICY. FILING POLICY BECAUSE IT COULD BE WHERE THE OFFICERS DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.

HOWEVER, WHETHER IT'S A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY.

OR RATHER IF IT IS FILED AS A FELONY AND THEN IT IS GENERALLY DOWNGRADED TO A MISDEMEANOR ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS FILED.

IT'S ACTUALLY REFERRED TO AS A REFERRAL, A REFERRAL SO THAT IT'S REFERRED BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS FILED.

I THINK MORE CLARIFICATION THEN WOULD LEND ITSELF TO A MORE REALISTIC VIEW AS TO WHAT IS OCCURRING THERE.

IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT THAT MORRIS DEMAND, WHAT HER CONCERNS ARE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW RECENTLY THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT WHERE ONE OF THE TENANTS WAS BRANDISHING A KITCHEN KNIFE AT ANOTHER TENANT, AND THEN THE POLICE CAME. THEN I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER HE WAS TAKEN AWAY OR IF THEY JUST TOOK AWAY THE KNIFE AND HE'S SENT BACK TO HIS OWN APARTMENT.

I'VE ONLY HEARD OF TWO INCIDENTS THERE, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU FOR THE ANECDOTAL. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM. NO. THIS IS GREAT AND YOU HAVE OUR NOTES [LAUGHTER] I'LL JUST THROW IT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS STILL NECESSARY FOR US TO DO.

HOWEVER, THE CONCERN THAT BROUGHT THIS UP WAS THAT IT NEVER CAME TO US IN THE FIRST PLACE SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE PUTS AND TAKES AND BACKGROUND BEHIND THIS. I THINK THE DECISION WAS MADE TO NOT GO TO LA COUNTY AND ALL OF THAT WITH OF THE STUFF. THAT'S WHERE I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL RELEVANT.

BUT THE CONCERN WAS, WE NEVER SAW DO WE HAVE A POINT OF VIEW, A PERSPECTIVE ON THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED THAT LED TO THE DECISION? I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND OF THAT.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA. THERE HAS TO BE A DOCUMENT AVAILABLE BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT THEY CAME TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY GAVE A VERY LENGTHY REPORT OF ALL THIS.

THAT'S GOT TO BE AVAILABLE. IT'S WORTH JUST TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN MOVE ON A LITTLE.

I AGREE WITH YOU FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AROUND ONE, COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. TO UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND IT IS TO MAKING SURE THAT SOMEBODY HAS READ THAT STUDY.

ALTHOUGH THE STUDY WAS INITIALLY INITIATED POSSIBLY AGAIN, FOR THE TRANSITION TO THE COUNTY, IT WOULD VERY CLEARLY AND VERY PROMINENTLY INDICATED SOME OF THE FLAWS THAT WERE WITHIN THE CITY'S

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I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT WAS THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO DO THAT, WHICH HAS BEEN ALMOST THREE YEARS AND THEY'VE YET TO IMPLEMENT THAT.

IT'S ALMOST IN A SENSE TO UNDERSTAND AS TO WHERE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND IF THEY ARE NOT, WHY NOT? THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THIS COMES UNDER THE IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT SHIFT LEVELS AND STAFFING IS THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS AND SUCH THAT ALTHOUGH MEASURE FP MAY OR MAY NOT ADDRESS IT, IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT AN UNSAFE POSSIBLY.

ALLEGEDLY UNSAFE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THEY ARE WORKING ON AND IN UNTIL THAT PARTICULAR TIME THAT ANY TYPE OF BUILDING IS DONE.

THE CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THEM NOW, WE ACTUALLY MAY BECOME MORE LIABLE UNDER A LIABILITY ISSUE, AND THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF ISSUES WITHIN THESE BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARE NOT ADDRESSING.

I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF THE FP DOES NOT MAKE ANY AND ALL THE INFORMATION OR THE CONCERNS THAT THE COUNTY HAD MOOT. IT DOESN'T CLEAN A LOT OF IT UP.

IT ONLY ADDRESSES MAYBE A BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS STAFFING LEVELS, ISSUES, A TRAINING OR ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THEREFORE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO LOOK AT IT. AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO REISSUE THAT FIRE STUDY, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO OTHER FIRE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE THAT THE CITY PAID FOR ACTUALLY, THAT MESHED INTO THE SAME THING.

CORRECT. THE 911 SYSTEM STUDY WAS ONE OF THEM, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER. THERE WAS THE OTHER THAT SUPPOSEDLY DONE BY THE INTERIM FIRE CHIEF.

KAUFMAN MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? RIGHT. FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. THIS MAY NOT FALL INTO THIS EXACT THING, BUT THEY'RE STILL PENDING THIS SUBJECT OF A POSSIBLE $300 EMT FEE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING THE SERVICES AT THEIR HOUSE AND TRANSPORTED OR NOT, I GUESS.

STILL WAITING ON THEM. AGREED AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT A VENDOR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID WHEN THEY WERE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT WAS TO HAVE IT AUTOMATED, NOT SENDING PEOPLE STUFF IN THE MAIL. GREAT REMINDER.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS WAS SAYING IS DID WE IMPLEMENT ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ANY OF THESE STUDIES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO? I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HE'S SAYING THAT IT'S STILL RELEVANT.

I AGREE. I GET THAT WAS THE ANSWER. I AGREE. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? NO. I DON'T KNOW. NO. THAT WASN'T IT. WHAT WAS THAT THE QUESTION THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET TO? YES. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US HERE ARE SUITED TO ANSWER THAT.

WE'RE NOT. NO, AS TO WHAT MY INTENT WAS. OH, NO.

I APPRECIATE YOUR INTENT, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ASK.

I THINK ONCE WE GET THE DOCUMENT, I THINK THERE'S SPECIFIC CALL OUT SECTIONS TO SAY THIS IS WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. THEN IT'S UP TO US TO SEND THAT TEAM LETTER TO OUR FIRE CHIEF AND SEE IF AND HOW THEY RESPOND TO THAT. I THINK THAT GETS US OVER THAT HUMP.

ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO MENTION AT THE TOP OF ALL OF THIS IS BECAUSE I LOVE THESE QUESTIONS, I LOVE THIS DIALOGUE. I SPOKE WITH CITY MANAGER, AND I WANTED TO REALLY PUSH HIM ON OUR AFFECT AS A COMMISSION. WE HAD A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH. IT WASN'T NEGATIVE BUT JUST BACK AND FORTH.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE DID CONCEDE IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LEAN INTO IS HOW THE PROGRAMS WORK AND HOW EFFECTIVE THE PROGRAMS ARE. PROGRAM BEING FIRE DEPARTMENT, PROGRAM BEING POLICE DEPARTMENT.

NOT NECESSARILY AUDIT ACCOUNTABILITY AND THOSE WORD WONDERFUL THINGS.

BUT LET OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BE SO SOUND THAT THEY FORCE THE ONLY

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I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL TO GO.

IS LIKE, DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT IT, THEN SEND THE RECOMMENDATION, ME, CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE US.

HE'S LIKE, BUT KEEP IN MIND THE PROGRAM. IS THE PROGRAM DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO? IS THE PROGRAM MEETING THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY? IS THE PROGRAM DOING THAT? THEN I WAS LIKE, OH, I CAN REPORT THAT BACK.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'M NOT PUSHING BACK ON ANYTHING THAT YOU SAID BECAUSE THAT'S IN SCOPE AND INBOUND. THAT SAID I AM CURIOUS THEN WHAT COMMISSIONERS ESCONTRIAS' INTENT WAS.

[LAUGHTER] NOW LET'S GO. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

I THINK IDEALLY, MY INTENT ALSO IS NOT ONLY AS ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THAT RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE, THAT WE PAID ALMOST FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO LOOK AT IT WHO CAME ACROSS WITH THE SAME RECOMMENDATION.

THE IDEA OF US LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN EXERCISE OF FUTILITY BECAUSE AS THE IDEA COMES AS TO HOW MUCH TRANSPARENCY THERE IS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE DISCUSSION THAT GOES ON WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DO IN PRIVATE.

I THINK AT THE BEST WE CAN ASK, WE CAN EXPOSE.

WE CAN HOPEFULLY HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ASK THE SAME THINGS, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GET AN ANSWER. THE THING AGAIN, IS FOR THIS IS TO PUSH IT OUT THERE. ONE OF MANY VOICES, IF YOU WILL, TO ENSURE OR HOPEFULLY THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET SOME ANSWER.

MY INTENT MOSTLY IS THAT RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I THINK MANY OF THEM ARE VERY VIABLE AND VERY DOABLE, IS JUST WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S THE IDEA OF SOMEBODY WISHING TO DO IT BECAUSE THE STATUS QUO IS A LOT EASIER.

THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WITH THAT. FAIR. BUT I THINK ALSO THAT WE'RE GOING TO KICK THIS CANON DOWN FOR A FEW MORE YEARS.

BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN IS SAY, WELL, BUT LET'S DO FP FIRST AND WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THIS AFTER.

EVERYTHING WILL BE PUSHED TO THE BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONVENIENT OR THE FACT THAT AGAIN, SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE CHANGE, AND THEREFORE, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA. WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT IF THERE WAS A TOWN HALL WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND DISCUSS THESE SPECIFIC ISSUES, MAYBE LET'S SAY THREE DIFFERENT TOPICS, AND THEN HAVE THE PEOPLE COME AND STAND UP WITH THEM I CAN GET THEIR IMPRESSIONS, AND THEN THEY CAN ALSO HAVE SOME EXPERTS REPLYING AND GIVING MORE INFORMATION? ALSO HAVING MAYBE THOSE PAPERS TO HAND OUT SO PEOPLE CAN BE INFORMED ALSO.

IT MIGHT BE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM JUST THREE MINUTES AT THE MIC AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY REALLY MAYBE DIG INTO IT A BIT, LIKE A ROUND TABLE OR MAYBE JUST A FULL ON EVERYBODY SHOWS UP AND SITS DOWN AND TAKES THEIR TURN. I LIKE IT. WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

I THOUGHT EVERYONE BROUGHT UP GREAT POINTS, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. IT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO THE STUDY AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE UNTIL THESE STRUCTURES ARE BUILT FOR MEASURE FP, AND WE ARE AWARE OF MANY GLARING ISSUES THAT ARE WITH OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT LIABILITY WILL THE CITY FACE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND SHOULD CERTAIN THINGS BE ADDRESSED NOW IN THE INTERIM WHILE WE WAIT FOR THESE NEW BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT OUT? ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO EARTHQUAKES.

AGREED. THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW IT, AND THEN CIRCLE BACK BECAUSE I KNOW THE STAFFING ISSUE WAS MITIGATED BEFORE THEY EVEN DID THE PRESENTATION. I KNEW THAT BECAUSE MY FIRST OR SECOND MONTH SITTING ON THE COMMISSION.

WHO'S THE GUY WHO COMES HERE? CHIEF REAGAN? CHIEF REAGAN.

SPOKE ABOUT IT. I KNEW THAT THAT WAS AND THEN THEY ADMITTED THAT NIGHT.

I CAN'T SAY THAT NONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, BUT I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THE DELTA BETWEEN WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE ARE. BECAUSE THEN THAT BECOMES, ARE THESE STILL NOT SIGNIFICANT? OR WHAT WAS THE LEVEL OF ISSUE AT THE MOMENT? EARTHQUAKE? HI, URGENCY. VENDING MACHINE, PROBABLY LOWER.

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EXACTLY. YES. ENTIRE TIME UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.

WE SHOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. I AGREE.

OH, THANKS. ONE ISSUE THAT CAME UP DURING ALL OF THE F AND P TALK WAS THE FACT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHELTER OUR FIRE ENGINES, SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING DESTROYED BY THE WEATHER AND WHAT ALL.

I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME UP IT'S ABOUT IF WE HAD A FIRE ENGINE HERE, WOULD IT STILL BE ABLE TO MEET THE FOUR MINUTE VERSUS BEING OVER HERE, THOSE ONE OVER THINGS? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT UPDATE, AND WE CAN PROBABLY TASK CHIEF REAGAN TO GIVE US SOME OF THOSE.

BUT FIRST, LOOK AT THE LIST, PULL THE SLIDES THAT HAS HERE ARE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT IS A PRIORITY. I AGREE. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER SKIBA SAID, WHICH IT SOUNDED ALMOST LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S ALL WORKS IN HERE, BUT IT WAS THIS IDEA OF A TOWN HALL ALMOST MEETING WITH LEADERS TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE THE PUBLIC AND WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC COULD COME AND ASK A QUESTION, NOT JUST MONDAY NIGHTS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE AT SOME LEVEL A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVELY. I LIKE IT.

IF WE'RE ALL GOOD, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

I2 WITH KEY INFLECTIONS ON ONE, GETTING A COPY OF THE REPORT FROM MAJOR FP, TWO FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS.

WE'VE TAKEN NOTES AND WE'LL HAVE THIS MORE DETAIL.

ALSO THIS IS BEING RECORDED, WE'LL TAKE MINUTES.

THREE, NOT JUST THE WORDS THAT ARE WRITTEN ABOUT INCIDENTS AND POLICE OFFICERS, BUT REALLY LEANING IN INTO INCEPTION TO CLOSE OUT FOR ANY CALLS, THE DETAILS, RESPONSE, DISPOSITION, AND ANY POLICY FILINGS. FOR NUMBER 4, REACH OUT TO CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF THE CHOSEN PROJECT MANAGER FOR MEASURE FP CAN PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE COMMISSION MONTHLY BASIS AT EACH OF OUR MEETINGS.

NUMBER 5, I'M GOING TO TAKE A NOTE TO SEND YOU ALL THE UPDATE THAT RYAN LOU GAVE, AND IF THAT IS SUFFICIENT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THAT IF IT IS NOT, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ADD ACTION ITEMS FOR NUMBER 5.

THAT'S MY MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PERFECT. I3. I3 IS CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL.

ANY OBJECTION? NO. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO J4.

I'M SORRY. KYLE, ARE WE ABLE TO MOVE TO J? WE'RE CLOSING OUT ITEM I.

MOVING TO J. YES. MOVING TO J. WE MOVED J4 AHEAD OF J1, SO J4 VIP PROGRAM PRESENTATION.

[J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

HE'S ALL NO. [LAUGHTER] VIP PROGRAM WAS STARTED IN 1994. WE WERE AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL VOLUNTEERS AND POLICING PROGRAM THAT GOT BOOTED UP POST SEPTEMBER 11TH.

WE OBVIOUSLY INITIATED IN 1994 WITH A HEAVY RECRUITMENT OF QUALIFIED COMMUNITY MINDED MEN AND WOMEN WHO WANTED TO GIVE BACK. SINCE THAT TIME, OUR VIPS HAVE ESTABLISHED AN IMPRESSIVE RECORD IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO OUR BPD STAFF, ASSISTING IN BUILDING COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE, AWARENESS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND MANY OTHER THINGS.

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IT'S ANOTHER SET OF AYES OR TWO FOR MISSING PERSONS, CRITICAL MISSING LIKE A LOST CHILD OR DEPENDENT ADULT.

THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS FOUR HOURS A WEEK.

MOST OF OUR VOLUNTEERS DO EXCEED THAT. THERE IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE APPROACH.

THEY DO THINGS LIKE VACATION CHECKS, WHICH WOULD BE A MORE CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED POLICE FUNCTION.

THEY COME BY AND CHECK ON YOUR HOME WHILE YOU'RE ON VACATION.

THEY ARE NOT DIRECTED TO INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN ANY PERILOUS SITUATION.

THEY ARE TRAINED, IF ANY CONFRONTATION OR DANGER LOOMS THAT THEY BACK AWAY AND OBVIOUSLY OBSERVE AND REPORT TO THE ON DUTY SWORN PERSONNEL AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, ETC AS NEEDED. ACTUALLY THEY HAVE A MARKED VEHICLE, NOT MARKED IN THE SAME WAY, IT'S ALL WHITE, AND IT'S INDICATED THAT IT'S VOLUNTEERS.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW THAT A BLACK AND WHITE CAR AND A BADGE AND A GUN AND A VEST CAN SOMETIMES BE MADE A TARGET FOR THAT REASON.

[NOISE] THEY HAVE RADIOS. THEY HAVE RADIO CONTACT WITH OUR DISPATCH.

THEN I HAVE SOME. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS INFORMATION BEFORE, BUT IT IS SUBSTANTIAL IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS FOR 2024 WAS 3,796.

2023, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS WAS 3,617 SO TIMES THAT BY MINIMUM WAGE.

EVEN JUST MINIMUM WAGE, IT BECOMES A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

AT LEAST IN MY CIRCLE, IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

[LAUGHTER]. MINE TOO. THEY DO A LOT OF THINGS.

THEY WRITE CITATIONS, WARNINGS, GRAFFITI REPORTS.

THEY ARE CONSTANTLY DOING SECURITY CHECKS OF PARKS, SCHOOLS, DAYCARES, SENIOR CENTERS, AND EVEN MISCELLANEOUS LIKE SECURITY CHECKS THAT WE REQUEST.

AS AN EXAMPLE, AFTER OCTOBER 7TH, OBVIOUSLY THE JEWISH HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THE CITY WERE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT PUBLIC SAFETY MINDSET AND SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR REGULAR PATROLS BASED ON CURRENT EVENTS.

THEY DO VACATION CHECKS. [NOISE] COURT RUNS TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH PAPERWORK.

SAME WITH PROBATION AND ENGLEWOOD COURT FOR JUVENILES.

THEY SERVE SUBPOENAS, EVEN DO JUST DELIVERIES FOR US, HEY, YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH STUFF BUILDS UP.

WE HAVE TWO POLICE BUILDINGS. ALTHOUGH FINGERS CROSSED FP WILL PUT US UNDER ONE ROOF.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INTER OFFICE ENVELOPES THAT NEED TO GO BACK AND FORTH AND SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 27 DIFFERENT POSITIONS FOR CROSSING GUARDS AND THEY GET SICK, THEY GET INJURED, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THEY'LL BACK [NOISE] FILL IN CROSSING GUARDS.

LAST YEAR, THEY ADDED DOING SKIMMER CHECKS AT OUR GAS STATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON WHERE WE GET THE SKIMMERS THAT ARE INSERTED INTO THE CREDIT CARD MACHINES TO STEAL DATA.

MANY TIMES, SPECIAL EVENTS OR MAJOR HOLIDAYS THEY GET PUT OUT IN THE FIELD AS A PRESENCE AND CAN GET FLAGGED DOWN FOR CITIZEN ASSISTS.

PEOPLE LOSE STUFF, THEY FIND LOST PROPERTY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEN THEY HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION AND THEY'VE PUT IN OVER 1,400 HOURS THERE.

THEY HAVE A COUPLE DEDICATED TO CRIME ANALYSIS, HELPING THEM WITH OVER 400 HOURS THIS PAST YEAR.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 14 ACTIVE. ONE OF THEM DOES DOUBLE DUTY WITH OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM ADVOCACY VOLUNTEERS. I'LL FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE PROGRAM.

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THEN YOU POPPED UP. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] AWESOME.

WE'LL PULL THE GROUP. THEY ALSO ALSO WRITE TICKETS FOR THE HANDICAP SPACES.

CORRECT. THEY DO WRITE CITATIONS. GET OUT. YES.

THE $400 ONES. CAN THEY SIT AT THE STARBUCKS ON THE CORNER OF ARTESIA.

SORRY. THEY KNOW THE SPOTS. THAT'S AMAZING. NOW I WANT TO BE A VIP.

[LAUGHTER] COULD YOU TELL US WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME A VIP.

WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO IT. WELL, MINIMUM FOUR HOURS OF COMMITMENT FOR A MONTH.

MOST OF THEM DO MORE THAN THAT. THERE WAS A PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT TO ATTEND THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AS A PRECURSOR TO BECOMING A VIP, THAT TYPICALLY WOULD GIVE THEM A STRONG BASE OF OPERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. WE HAVE WAIVED THAT THOUGH IF SOMEBODY'S INTEREST WAS HIGH ENOUGH, AND AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SUFFERING FROM A LACK OF INTEREST OUT THERE FOR PARTICIPANTS.

IF SOMEONE CAN'T MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO ATTEND THAT CLASS BECAUSE IT IS 15 WEDNESDAY NIGHTS, THREE HOURS, AND THEN A FOUR HOUR RIDE ALONG AND A GRADUATION CEREMONY.

WE DON'T DISCOURAGE THEM FROM APPLYING. IT'S NO LONGER MANDATORY.

WE ENCOURAGE IT AND MOST OF THEM WANT TO DO IT TO BECOME A VIP BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE YOU A GOOD KNOWLEDGE BASE ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL IS THERE AN AGE REQUIREMENT? THE HRM IS THINKING TALENT PIPELINE, SO COULD WE DO LIKE FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OF A PARTICULAR AGENT ABOVE? EIGHTEEN AND UP. EIGHTEEN AND UP. TYPICALLY SEE IT.

OUR APPLICANTS AND I WOULD SAY GENERALLY TYPICALLY LIKE A RETIRED AGE, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING. THAT'S JUST WHAT'S BEEN THE TREND. BUT I THINK 18 AND UP IS THE BASE REQUIREMENT.

YOU DO HAVE TO PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK BECAUSE THERE'S SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S SOMETIMES WHERE WE LOSE SOME APPLICANTS BECAUSE IT IS A FULL BACKGROUND CHECK. IT'S A PAIN TO DO THE FULL REGALIA, BUT GENERALLY 18 AND UP. A LIE DETECTOR TEST.

POLYGRAPH IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKGROUND. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

DO WE ADVERTISE THIS? IT SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT PROMOTE THIS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I WENT TO REDONDO. I WANTED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND I NEVER HEARD OF THIS PROGRAM.

I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER KIDS THAT ARE THERE NOW THAT MAY WANT TO PURSUE A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE ADVERTISE IT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

I WOULD SAY NO. WE DO A SUMMER PROGRAM CALLED TEENS AND POLICING, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.

A LITTLE MORE HANDS-ON BECAUSE A TEENAGER'S ATTENTION IS HARDER TO KEEP.

THE CLASSES ARE ONE HOUR SHORTER. THE TOPICS ARE IT'S ABOUT HALF THE AMOUNT OF TOPICS, AND IT'S THE BIG FUN ONE, CSI, CANINE, SWAT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE PUT MORE OF OUR EFFORT IN APPEALING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AGE WITH THAT PROGRAM, WHICH AFTER GRADUATION, COULD LEAD TO RECRUITMENT IN THE CADET REALM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT SUBSEQUENTLY WOULD BE POTENTIAL RECRUITMENT FOR THE SWORN OFFICER LEVEL. COMMISSIONER AKIN? YES. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD PASS ON A LITTLE BIT OR MORE RATHER AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AND THAT THEIR JOB IS APPRECIATED.

HOPEFULLY, YOU CAN PASS ON AS WELL AS THE INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED FROM YOU OF THE EIGHT OF THEM FROM 2024.

EACH OF THEM WILL BE RECEIVING THE PRESIDENTIAL VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD, WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY PRESENTED TO THEM BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

PROBABLY THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MEETINGS, AND EACH OF THAT IS BASED ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS FOR 2024.

HOPEFULLY, WHAT WILL OCCUR IN THAT IS THAT ANYBODY WHO MAY HAVE BEEN SAY IN 2023, BUT MAYBE FOR SOME REASON 2024, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO THAT IF WE GET THOSE NAMES, THEY CAN ALSO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND EACH OF THEM WILL RECEIVE DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF

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I WILL ABSOLUTELY PASS THAT ON [OVERLAPPING] ESPECIALLY.

THIS AWARD WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED OR ACTUALLY BROUGHT FORTH BY SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AS WELL AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MOST DEFINITELY APPRECIATES VOLUNTEERS.

VERY GOOD. I DO, ESPECIALLY. I SEE PROBABLY THE MOST OF IT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THEY WILL. THANK YOU.

[OVERLAPPING] BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S J5. I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO IT.

COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM. YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS THE MAKEUP OF THE VOLUNTEERS.

HOW LONG DO THEY STAY IN SERVICE? NO JOB LASTS FOREVER, ESPECIALLY VOLUNTEER WORK, BUT DO THEY STAY A LONG TIME OR HOW LONG? A GOOD AMOUNT OF OURS HAVE MANY YEARS. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME MORE RECENT INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT AROUND THE TIME I TOOK OVER THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, NOT TRYING TO BRAG OR ANYTHING. BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN A FEW NEW, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY AT A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND HAVE NOT INDICATED ANY INTENTION TO DEPART FROM THEIR DUTIES.

SOMETIMES WE'LL SEE A HIGHER, THIS HAS HAPPENED ONCE OR TWICE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, A HIGHER, AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, THIS IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR ME PHYSICALLY OR OTHERWISE, AND THEN THEY'LL JUST GRACEFULLY RESIGN, BUT THEY LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEY REMAIN A CITIZENS ACADEMY ALUMNI IF THEY TOOK THE PROGRAM, WHICH DOES HAVE OCCASIONAL VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES.

COMMISSIONER [OVERLAPPING]. ONE OF YOUR VOLUNTEERS. [OVERLAPPING] NO.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA. YEAH. ONE OF YOUR VOLUNTEERS, NORMA MITCHELL TOLD ME THAT SHE TOOK THE ACADEMY BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO BE A VIP.

YES. I MET HER ON THE ESPLANADE. TODAY WAS HER BIRTHDAY BY THE WAY.

SHE SAID, I'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER AND I SAID, I GOT THE PERFECT THING FOR YOU.

I LOST HER EMAIL ADDRESS, BUT SHE FOUND MINE.

ENDED UP BEING A SUCCESS STORY. THANKS. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I'M GOOD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM J1, LOOKS LIKE WE DO NOT HAVE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

CHIEF REAGAN WAS UNAVAILABLE. HE'S ACTUALLY ACTING CHIEF RIGHT NOW, SO I THINK HE JUST HAS A LOT GOING ON.

HE WAS UNAVAILABLE. HE CALLED ME EARLIER. YOU CAN PROCEED.

J2. THAT'S YOU. DISCUSSION OF CRIME RECAP, COMMUNITY POLICING VOLUNTEERS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN. IN ADDITION TO THE PART 1 RECAP ON FRIDAY EVENING.

[BACKGROUND] SORRY. I PANICKED IN THE LAST SECOND.

FRIDAY EVENING, WE HAD A DUI CHECKPOINT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS IS BUSY HOLIDAY WEEKEND FOR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.

OBVIOUSLY, OUR PRIORITIES ARE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DRIVE SOBER AND TAKE THOSE WHO DO NOT OFF THE ROAD.

OUR COMMUNITY POLICING REPORT, WE DID KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL.

SATURDAY, MARCH 1. WE HAD SOME PARTICIPANTS GO OUT WITH THAT NONPROFIT AND CLEAN UP THE ESPLANADE.

IF YOU NOTICE, THIS IS A DEPARTURE FROM THE PREVIOUS REPORTS WHICH INCLUDED A COFFEE WITH A COP.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE COORDINATOR OF COFFEE WITH A COP WAS IN NO CONDITION TO HOST A COFFEE WITH A COP THAT WEEKEND.

WE JUST DID THE CLEANUP AND WE DID [LAUGHTER] BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

YOU HAVE AN ALIBI. WE GET IT. [LAUGHTER]. YES.

THERE'S VIDEO EVIDENCE. WE PARTICIPATED IN READ ACROSS AMERICA NATIONWIDE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT SCHOOLS ALL OVER THE PLACE AT HERMOSA VISTA. I BELIEVE I SAW AT LEAST TWO OF YOU AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OPEN HOUSE THAT WE HAD RIGHT HERE IN THE CIVIC CENTER.

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FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS WE HAD SOME RAIN SCARES THAT STRESSED ME OUT. BUT IT WAS A GREAT DAY.

UPCOMING ON THE 29TH, WE HAVE OUR BICYCLE RODEO AT OUR ANNEX FACILITY IN THE PARKING LOT.

THEN WE WILL BE AT TULITAS WESTERN NIGHT. THEY HAVE A BIG FUN NIGHT FOR KIDS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND SERVE POPCORN. THEN WE WILL BE ALSO SERVING POPCORN AT THE CITY'S EXTRAVAGANZA EVENT AT FRANKLIN PARK, WHICH IS EXTREMELY WELL ATTENDED ON APRIL 12, FROM 10-2.

THEN WE WILL ALSO BE ATTENDING THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.

I WROTE AT DOMINGUEZ PARK. IT'S AT THE MORRELL HOUSE THE MUSEUM THERE THAT'S A INSIDE OF DOMINGUEZ PARK.

WE'LL HAVE THE CHIEF AS WELL AS AT LEAST THREE OTHER OFFICERS PARTICIPATING IN THE ALTAVISTA FUNDRAISER, THE HARLEM WIZARDS GAME. WE'LL BE BALLING IT UP WITH SOME HARLEM WIZARDS ALONG WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, MOST LIKELY, PROBABLY THE TEACHERS. WE WILL BE AT TULITA HEROES DAY, APRIL 30 AT 10:00 A.M.

THEN IN JUNE, WE HAVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TORCH RUN.

LAST YEAR, WE RAISED $3,500 FOR THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

YOU'LL SEE US OUT THERE CARRYING THE TORCH THROUGH THE CITY. IT SAYS JUNE 2025, THE OFFICIAL DATE IS GOING TO BE MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

JUNE 2 AND JUNE 3, I JUST GOT WORD. WE'LL LIKELY BE OUR TIMES THAT WE'RE CARRYING THE TORCH.

MARCH'S VIP REPORT LEADING UP TO THROUGH FEBRUARY, HOURS OF SERVICE THIS YEAR SO FAR, 02,034 TOTAL. AT THAT PACE, ARE YOU GOING TO BEAT LAST YEAR? WITH OUR CURRENT 14, YEAH WE'RE GOING TO CRUSH IT.

PROBABLY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OBVIOUSLY, COVID IS AN ANOMALY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS AT THAT TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RE ANY OF THE THINGS I JUST TALKED ABOUT J2? COMMISSIONER I HAVE A QUESTION, IF IT PERTAINS EXACTLY. BUT THE PV BOULEVARD PROSPECT AREA AND ALL THE SPEEDERS AND THIS.

I KNOW THEY'VE TRIED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS SO FAR.

THEY HAD THE TRUCK CHECKOUT CHECKS. HAVE THEY CONSIDERED ALSO USING CAMERAS TO SEE WHO CAPTURING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE? BECAUSE WHEN ROLF STRUTZENBURG WAS HERE, HE SAID THAT HE WAS THERE AS CHILDREN WERE ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL, AND SOMEONE JUST ZOOMED RIGHT THROUGH THE CROSSWALK AS THERE'S A CROSSING GUARD IN THE CROSSWALK AND KIDS.

MAYBE THEY COULD DO A CAMERA SYSTEM LIKE THEY DID WITH THOSE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.

YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] CATCH YOU AT THE MOMENT. THAT WOULD BE LIKE A BIG-CITY DECISION.

I THINK THE IMPLEMENTATION OF RED LIGHT OR SPEED CAMERAS.

THERE'S QUESTIONS OF CONSTITUTIONALITY, BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN IMPLEMENTATIONS IN SPITE OF THAT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE DECIDED. THERE'S A CASE LAW ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF CAMERAS AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT ACCEPTED IN COURT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A PERSON THERE TO SWEAR AND TESTIFY UNDER OATH.

BUT THEY EXIST ACROSS THE NATION. BUT WE WOULDN'T SPECIFICALLY MAYBE EMPLOY THAT TACTIC OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL ENFORCEMENT EXAMPLES.

I JUST HOLD MY BODY CAM OUT THE WINDOW IF I'M GOING TO WORK A STOP SIGN OR SOMETHING.

BUT THAT'S MORE INDIVIDUAL EVIDENCE FOR A CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE WITH ME OBSERVING THE VIOLATION.

IN CITATIONS, THEY CAN MAIL THE CITATIONS, CAN'T THEY? [OVERLAPPING] THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. THEY ESSENTIALLY RECORD THE PLATE IF IT'S LEGAL AND LEGIBLE AND MAIL THE REGISTERED OWNER THE CITATION. YEAH.

BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I DID PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO RUN AWAY WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO WRITE THIS CITATION. BEFORE YOU CAN PRINT IT UP IN ANDERSON AND THEY TAKE OFF LIKE AND THEN THEY GET IT IN THE MAIL.

[LAUGHTER] STILL THE OFFICER THERE FOR OBSERVING PHYSICALLY OBSERVING THE VIOLATION.

EXACTLY. COMMISSIONER DID YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE? I'M SORRY.

BYE, BOBBY. I'LL SEE YOU LATER. BYE, BOBBY, 1313 GRIM STREET.

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HAS THAT BECOME STRICTER OR MORE LENIENT. IT'S MY OBSERVATION.

I BROKE MY ARM AND I CAN'T GO BICYCLING, SO I WALK FOR HOURS AND HOURS EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES LATE AT NIGHT.

I SEE CARS GO THROUGH STOP SIGNS. I USED TO BE THAT THEY WOULDN'T STOP, BUT THEY WOULD SLOW DOWN.

NOW THE CARS THEY DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN. THEY JUST GO FULL SPEED RIGHT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND I'M AMAZED.

WE DID. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF OUR TOTAL DEPARTMENT NUMBER BY 22 POSITIONS, WHICH WERE INTENDED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE TRAFFIC UNIT, AND THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE 2023-2024 IN THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS ISSUED.

IT'S JUST CITYWIDE AND WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO ADDRESS COMPLAINTS, STATISTICAL EVIDENCE, ETC. INEVITABLY, WE'RE OUT NUMBERED TO 70,001.

BUT WE GO OUT THERE AND ENFORCE REGULARLY. WE DID WHICH RESULTED IN THAT INCREASE '23-'24 PROBABLY DUE TO THE INCREASE IN SIZE OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

IS OUR REFUND? NO. I'M FINE. IT IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I THINK ONE, IN LOOKING AT THIS CLEARLY WE'VE GOT THESE VEHICLES THAT PEOPLE CARS GETTING BROKEN INTO LEFT AND RIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING AT THEIR YEAR REPORTS. SHOULD WE TAKE ON ANY TYPE OF EDUCATION FOR PEOPLE? IT SEEMS LIKE COMMON SENSE. BUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO FROM THE CITIZEN SIDE TO HELP PREVENT SOME OF THIS? SHARING INFORMATION. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO TREAD INTO THE REALM OF VICTIM BLAMING, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BLOCK THEIR VEHICLES, NOT LEAVE THINGS IN THEIR VEHICLES. OUR BIG MOTTO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM IS LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION, WHICH IS LIKE, HEY, LIGHT UP WHERE YOU LIVE IF YOU CAN WITH LIGHTS WITHIN REASON.

DON'T CAUSE A NEIGHBOR, JUST THE GIANT SPOTLIGHT CAMERAS.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE MORE HELPFUL THING IS NOWADAYS, WHAT'S NICE IS EVEN THOUGH THE CAMERA FOOTAGE DOESN'T GUARANTEE SUCCESS IN A CASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S HARD TO DO ANYTHING OFF CAMERA NOWADAYS BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOT RING DOORBELLS AND SO ON.

THEN ACTION IS LIKE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

WE'RE PROS AT FACING THE BACKLASH FOR YOUR JUDGMENT.

GO OUT THERE AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS SUSPICIOUS, DON'T FEEL BAD, JUST CALL, WE GO OUT, WE LOOK. THAT'S HOW A LOT OF STUFF GETS PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING IS, HEY, THERE'S THIS CAR I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE DRIVING DOWN MY STREET, LOOKS WEIRD. THEY STOPPED FOR 10 MINUTES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND THEN DROVE AWAY.

WE GO AND THEY HAVE A VIOLATION, WE PULL THEM OVER AND NOW THERE'S STOLEN PACKAGES IN THE CAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT YES, PROPERTY CRIME IS GOING TO BE THE MOST PREVALENT FOR REDONDO BEACH.

THAT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH. TONS OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, REMINDERS POSTED AND SO ON.

THE BIG ONE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE KEEP A LOT OF STUFF IN THEIR CAR.

THEY GO OUT, THEY LOOK AND EVERYTHING IS REMOTE.

YOU USED TO HAVE TO PHYSICALLY PUSH DOWN THE HANDLE, SO YOU THINK YOU PUSHED THAT LOCK AND THEN IT DIDN'T, AND THEY'RE JUST TUGGING EACH HANDLE AND LOOKING FOR LAPTOPS, BACKPACKS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BIG CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

AS FAR AS THE CONVERTERS, THE THEFTS OF THAT, IS THAT INCREASING OR DECREASING AT ALL? I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMEWHAT STEADY. WE INITIATED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WANT TO SAY TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, CREATED A MUNICIPAL CODE. WE ACTUALLY HEARD SOME INTEL FROM OUR CONTACT THAT SOME OF THE CREWS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING THIS BECAME AWARE THAT WE HAD A MUNICIPAL CODE.

WE WOULD ALSO TACK ON FOR ANYONE, WE WOULD PULL OVER IN POSSESSION OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS.

EVEN IF THE CASE WASN'T LATER FILED, THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO OUR JAIL AND GET BOOKED AND ALL THEIR EVIDENCE SEIZED AND CAR TOWED WHILE THEIR CASE GOT PROCESSED.

I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY WE'VE DONE WELL IN THE SOUTH BAY WITH THAT.

THERE'S OCCASIONAL FLARE UPS, THOSE CREWS COME OUT. FOR US, IT'S LIKE WE TRY AND EDUCATE AS BEST WE CAN.

PEOPLE WAKE UP AND THEY HEAR, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I HEARD A SAW BLADE, AND THEN I WENT OUTSIDE TO LOOK AND THEN I SAW THEM AND THEN I HAD TO RUN BACK INSIDE AND GET MY PHONE. YOU WAKE UP AND HEAR A SAW BLADE JUST CALL US.

IT'S LIKE, HEY, DID YOU SPOOK THEM? DID THEY PEEL OUT AND DRIVE AWAY BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY DRIVING FAST VERSUS NO, THEY SEEM TO JUST TURN AROUND THE CORNER AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WITH NO LIGHTS IN THAT AREA,

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A COUPLE OF NIGHTS AGO, I SAW A CAR COME DOWN OUR STREET, SUPER SLOW, STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, TURNED OFF HIS HEADLIGHTS AND THEN JUST STOOD THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

THEN HE PUT THEM BACK ON AND DROVE AWAY, SUPER SLOW.

WHAT WAS HE LOOKING FOR? HE WASN'T DROPPING OFF ANYBODY AT OUR HOUSES.

INEVITABLY IN ALL SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, THERE'S OVERLAPPING BEHAVIORS.

WHEN POKEMON GOO CAME INTO EXISTENCE, WE WERE GETTING SUSPICIOUS PERSONS CALLS ALL OVER THE CITY BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE TEENAGERS WERE WALKING AROUND AND LOOKING UNDER AND OVER AND THROUGH AND SIDE STREETS AND ALLEYS. OH, MY GOD.

DELIVERY DRIVERS, EVERYTHING'S BEING DELIVERED FROM STORE TO DOOR.

NOW, SO A LOT OF THEM ARE PULLING UP AND STOPPING LIKE THAT, TURNING OFF THEIR LIGHTS WHILE THEY'RE STOPPED, RUN IN, DROP THE DELIVERY, COME BACK. WHEN WE WOULD INITIATE LIKE CATALYTIC CONVERTER ENFORCEMENT DETAILS, IT WAS 3:00-6:00 IN THE MORNING. WE'RE PULLING OVER ANY CAR WITH NO LIGHTS ON.

ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT AS COMMON NOW WITH SMARTPHONE TECHNOLOGY AND THE INTERNET.

BUT THE NEWSPAPER DELIVERIES, THEY DRIVE AROUND 3:00-6:00 IN THE MORNING WITH NO LIGHTS ON.

THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE TOSSING THE NEWSPAPERS OUT SO WE'D PULL THEM OVER SOMETIMES. THERE IS OVERLAPPING BEHAVIOR AND SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, BUT GENERALLY, IT'S BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING. ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANYMORE OF THOSE ETCHINGS THAT THEY WERE DOING BEFORE? WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL ETCHINGS.

OH. THERE'S A LOCAL BUSINESS IN REDONDO BEACH. I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF MEETING THAT DOES IT FOR FREE.

THAT WAS ALWAYS COMING TO OUR ETCHING EVENTS TO HELP US IDENTIFY CONVERTERS.

I'M FAIRLY SMART, BUT I'M NOT A MECHANIC. SOMETIMES THEY WOULD POINT IT OUT FOR US.

TO ETCH, GENERALLY, THAT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TRACK STOLEN CONVERTERS.

FINDING A CAR FULL OF SEVEN OR EIGHT CONVERTERS THAT ARE STOLEN WITH SOME SUSPECTS, AND THEN PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH FILING A CASE WAS IDENTIFYING VICTIMS. IF YOU COULDN'T IDENTIFY A VICTIM, IT WAS HARD TO FILE A CASE. IF YOU HAD A LICENSE PLATE ETCHED INTO ONE, YOU COULD IDENTIFY A VICTIM AND BE LIKE, HEY, NOW WE GOT A CASE.

WE GENERALLY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT. WE ENCOURAGE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESS OR ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET IF THEY HAVE A MAKER MODEL THAT'S SUSCEPTIBLE, THE SHIELDS BECAUSE THAT'S MORE PREVENTATIVE IN NATURE THAN THE ETCHING.

COMMISSIONER WODNICKI, THEN WE'LL COME TO YOU COMMISSIONER. YOU GOOD? COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS . I THINK ADDRESSING A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR QUESTION, CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO AND IT BOTHERS ME EVEN TO BRING THIS UP.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WHAT THE OFFICERS CAN DO.

WITHIN TWO DAYS, WITHIN PROBABLY 300 FEET OF MY HOUSE I'VE HAD THREE VICTIMS OF BURGLARY FOR MOTOR VEHICLE.

THE ISSUE THAT BOTHERS ME WAS ON TWO OF THOSE THREE THE OFFICERS TOOK A REPORT AND IT WAS ALMOST AND ACCORDING TO EACH EACH OF THEM WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH. ONLY ONE OF THE THREE, WHICH I'M GOING TO MOST IMPORTANTLY WRITE A COMMENT CARD OR A COMMENDATION.

THE OFFICER DID WHAT WE GENERALLY REFERRED TO AS A DOOR KNOCKING, KNOCKING THE DOORS AND LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH I FOUND TO BE VERY BASIC POLICE WORK, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY VERY MUCH NEEDED.

THEN THE OTHER TWO, NO DOOR KNOCKING OCCURRED.

NOTHING. ON ONE OF THEM WITH PERSON ACTUALLY CAUGHT THE PERSON INSIDE HIS VEHICLE, TRACE EVIDENCE WAS LEFT.

BY THAT I MEAN BLOOD AND HE THEN REQUESTED THAT IT BE TAKEN, THE OFFICER REFUSED, AND THEN HE HAD TO CALL THE WATCH COMMANDER, AND THEN SUDDENLY NOW THE WATCH COMMANDER GETS INVOLVED, THEN THEY COME BACK OUT. THIS WAS AFTER THEY WERE TOLD INITIALLY THAT NO FORENSIC PERSON WAS WORKING AND THEN SUDDENLY WHEN THE TRACE EVIDENCE WAS TO BE PICKED UP, SUDDENLY A FORENSIC PERSON WAS AVAILABLE.

IT SENDS MIXED SIGNALS. I GET IT. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I'M SOMEWHAT AWARE OF HOW THIS OCCURS AND WHAT IT DOES AND HAD HALF MY OWN PRINT KIT TO DO IT. BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING WHEN I'M HEARING THESE PEOPLE AND IT BOTHERSOME BECAUSE I CAN'T DEFEND SOME OF THE ACTIONS AND THE OTHERS, I CAN'T. MY THING WITH THAT IS TO SAY, HEY, DO A FOLLOW UP, ASK QUESTIONS AND SUCH.

I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATION, EDUCATION GOES BOTH WAYS IN WHICH IF THE PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING SUPPORTED OR SUCH THAT SOMEHOW THE IMPRESSION COMES IN AS TO WHY AM I EVEN CALLING YOU IF YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TAKE A REPORT.

THAT HAPPENS RARELY. I SEE IT. IT HAPPENS RARELY BECAUSE I TALKED A LOT OF PEOPLE, ASK QUESTIONS,

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BECAUSE IF YOU TALK TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS TO HOW WE RESPOND TO STUFF.

BUT I THINK THE PERSISTENCE IS WHAT PAYS OFF, AND I WOULD TELL PEOPLE THIS, ESPECIALLY IF SOMETHING OCCURS, MAKE A REPORT AND DEMAND A REPORT. IT MAY NOT GO ANYWHERE.

I GET IT. BUT I THINK THE THING IS THAT IF YOU CAN BE ABLE, ESPECIALLY CONVERTER THEFTS OR ANY OTHER THEFT, IS A PATTERN OCCURS, THEN YOU CAN SOMETIMES PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER TO WHERE IT OCCURS.

BUT IT'S BOTHERSOME IN THAT, BUT AGAIN, I DID HAVE AN OFFICER COME KNOCK ON MY DOOR, ASKED ME.

I WAS VERY SURPRISED AND I SAID, WOW, THIS IS GOOD.

LET ME CHECK ALL EVERYTHING ELSE AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS FOUR HOUSES UP, HE WAS ON HIS GAME.

HE WAS GOOD. I TOLD HIM, I THOUGHT THIS IS REALLY GOOD, WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO GUYS DIDN'T DO THIS. AGAIN, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATION, THE EDUCATION GOES BOTH SIDES AND THERE ARE OFFICERS WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT BASIC POLICE WORK IS ABOUT.

DOES HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

DID THE POLICE STILL SEND OUT A SURVEY AFTER EVERY CALL? YES. I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY EFFICIENT. I HAD A POOR EXPERIENCE WHERE NO ONE RESPONDED, AND I GAVE THE POLICE A ZERO.

IMMEDIATELY THE NEXT DAY, I GOT A PHONE CALL ASKING WHY DID I RATE THEM SO POORLY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE POLICE YOUR ISSUES, THE SURVEY SYSTEM THAT YOU GUYS IMPLEMENT.

I'LL GO BACK AND ASK IF THERE WAS A SURVEY AND THEN PUSH IT BACK TO THEM TO MAKE THE COMMENTS BASED ON WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS.

THEN HOPEFULLY IF SOMETHING FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS, IT COULD BE ADDRESSED, IF NOT, THEN THEY CAN WORK THROUGH IT.

THANK YOU. I LOVE THE SURVEY. THIS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I LOVE THE SURVEY, BY THE WAY. I THINK IT'S GREAT. IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT YOU CARE AND FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU ALL. NICE. I LIKE THAT. WITH THAT, J 3.

J 3, IT'S LISTED AS A DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WITH COMMISSIONER PRIOR TO DECEMBER 2023. ARE WE NOW? YES. PRIOR TO DECEMBER 2023, A MEMBER OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD SIT THERE AND GIVE US AN UPDATE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS TOPIC, THE CITY'S ENHANCED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND. ABOUT BACK IN 2017, 2018, THERE WAS A TASK FORCE THAT HAD THE CHIEF OF POLICE, ETC, TASK FORCE, AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT WHILE THE PROGRAM WOULD LIVE WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES, IT WOULD BE HEAVILY INFLUENCED AND DIRECTED BY CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THEN IT JUST WAS ABSORBED BY CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THAT'S WHY THEY CAME AND GAVE US THE UPDATE. THEY MADE A DECISION THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME IN 2024.

WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS GO AND DO ALL OF THE HOMEWORK TO ANSWER CONSIDERABLE QUESTIONS ESCONTRIAS, SKIBA, THE WHOLE TEAM WOULD HAVE ABOUT WHAT'S THE PROGRAM'S EFFICACY? WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING IN? HOW IS IT BEING SPENT? WHO'S OVERSEEING X, Y AND Z? THE ONLY POSITIVE THAT WE HAD WAS THAT LYLA O'MORA WAS DOING HER THING IN THE STREETS.

WHAT I FOUND OUT THE OTHER DAY THOUGH, IS THAT WE PARTNER WITH A HEALTH SERVICES TEAM THAT RIDES WITH POLICE OFFICERS THAT GOES OUT TO ADDRESS SOME CERTAIN CASES LIKE THAT AS WELL.

IT'S A BIG PROGRAM. WE JUST DON'T HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT RUNNING IT.

WHAT I HAD MY TEAM DO WAS GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM.

BEGINNING DECEMBER 2024, I STARTED PUBLISHING IN EACH ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND UPDATE ON THAT.

IN THIS ONE MOST RECENTLY, COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS , BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT, WHICH IS WHY I SPOKE TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHERE OUR WATER'S EDGE IS. WHERE'S THE MONEY? HOW IS IT BEING SPENT? WHAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT? HOW DO WE GET TO THAT PERSON? I'LL HAVE TO EMAIL.

IF YOU LOOK ITEM NUMBER 26, I HAVE A SPREADSHEET, AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN BUT IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE WELL FROM A PDF PERSPECTIVE.

I'LL HAVE EMAIL YOU SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

BUT IT BREAKS IT DOWN WHERE ALL THE MONEY CAME IN FROM BEGINNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS YEAR AND HOW IT WAS SPENT.

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HARBOR INTERFAITH. WE WERE REQUESTING THEM TO COME. THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY A CITY VENDOR.

THEY ACTUALLY ARE A COUNTY VENDOR. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE REFUSING TO COME. THEY'RE NOT A CITY VENDOR.

THEY'RE OUT OF SCOPE FOR US. WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY OF GETTING THEM TO REPORT THEIR FACTS AND FIGURES.

BUT LONG STORY SHORT, EVERY VENDOR, I'VE PLACED IN HERE TO SAY AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO PAY THIS VENDOR 300,000 FOR THESE SERVICES.

200,000 FOR THE SERVICE, ETC. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

I'LL SEND YOU THE SPREADSHEET SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. GOING FROM 2017 THROUGH JUST THIS PAST MONDAY 2025, WHERE WE HAD MOU. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT THE TOTAL MOU WAS $500,000, AND THERE WAS 284,000 LEFT, AND SO THEY'RE EXTENDING THE CONTRACT TO FINISH SPENDING SOME OF THAT WITH RESPECT TO HOMELESS COURT.

ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS ARE THE MOST CONTEMPORARY THAT BRING US CURRENT MONTH EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THE PROGRAM IS WORKING.

THERE'S ANOTHER SET OF DOCUMENTS IN FEBRUARY'S.

ANOTHER SET OF DOCUMENTS IN JANUARY'S. FROM A PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS NOTHING WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS WORKING OUTSIDE OF CONFIRMING WHO ARE ALL THE VENDORS AND CONFIRMING IN THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM, DOES ALL THE MONEY HAVE A CODE, IN WHICH CASE WE CAN TRACK IT? IT SHOULD BE LABELED, THIS CAME FROM SP CO. THIS CAME FROM HEALTH NET.

THIS CAME FROM AND HERE'S HOW IT WAS SPENT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, TELLS YOU HERE'S LEDGER.

LEDGER. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE WORD. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DATE TO LET US KNOW HOW THE PROGRAM IS WORKING.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

MY QUESTION IS, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CONFLATING FINANCE AND SAFETY.

NO, THAT'S JUST ONE DOCUMENT. ALL OF THE REST IS THE SAFETY.

THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM IS ALSO OUR CHARGE.

IT'S LIKE WHILE WE'RE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM IS, DOES IT STILL HAVE FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO LAST? DO WE KNOW? WILL LILA STILL HAVE IT, THAT'S THE COMPONENT THAT WE WANT TO SEE.

HERE'S ALL THE FUNDS, AND IT'S LIKE 15 MILLION IN TOTAL CAME IN, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT ALL IS, AND WE ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT IS RECURRING.

IT WILL ALWAYS COME AND HOW MUCH OF IT WAS A ONE TIME GRANT.

THAT'S AS FAR AS WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM AN EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM FROM THE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE.

WHY WOULD THAT NOT GO TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION? THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, LIKE, DOES THE PALLET SHELTER STILL HAVE FUNDING? THE NEW 25 PALLET SHELTERS THAT WE ALLOCATED 1.3 MILLION.

I DON'T SEE THE NEW 25, SO WHERE IS THAT? I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO RUN DOWN LIKE FORENSIC ECONOMICS HERE.

NO. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE ROLE OR THE CHARGE OF THE COMMISSION FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.

IT IS, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING FORENSIC ACCOUNTING.

I'M BEING SARCASTIC. I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE I'M ARGUING.

THAT'S ONE OF MULTIPLE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT SAY, HERE'S HOW WE GOT THE FUNCTIONAL ZERO.

HERE'S HOW THIS IS, HERE'S HOW THIS IS. BUT TO SAY WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FUNDED, THAT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE. WE'RE JUST TRACKING TO SAY, HERE'S THE $15 MILLION THAT CAME IN, HERE'S WHAT'S FUNDING THE PALLET SHELTER, HERE'S WHEN THAT MONEY IS GOING TO RUN OUT.

AT SOME POINT WE KNOW THAT THAT PALLET SHELTER NO LONGER HAS FUNDING.

IT'S NO LONGER VIABLE, AND WE CAN NO LONGER SAY THAT WE HAVE A FULLY FUNDED PALLET SHELTER.

THAT'S THE EXTENT. THAT'S WHY I ASKED MIKE BECAUSE I GET THAT FEEDBACK.

TOTALLY MAKES SENSE? DON'T HEAR ME DISCOUNTING THAT PERSPECTIVE? THAT WAS WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF BEING A PERCEPTION.

I SAID THE SAME THING TO HIM. THAT'S ONE DOCUMENT OUT OF A TRILLION OTHERS THAT ARE TELLING US ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

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WHAT AM I DOING WITH THIS GROUP? BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING THERE.

I THINK IT'S JUST THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF IMPORTANT SAFETY ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING AS WELL AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE CHARGES PUT IN FRONT OF US AND THE TRUST THAT'S PUT IN FRONT OF US BY THE CITY LEADERS AS WELL AS OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED AND I'VE TRIED SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN MY POSITION ON THIS. ALTHOUGH I DO SEE A VERY THOROUGH RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE BY YOU OR WHOEVER THAT YOU HAD ASKED TO DO. MY CONCERN AGAIN, IS THE BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT ACCOUNTABILITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS UP TO US TO GO THROUGH AND SEARCH TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT FOR ANYTHING.

FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS OR FOR ONE REASON ESPECIALLY, IS THAT WE CANNOT CLARIFY OR I MEAN, A LOT OF IT IS PUBLIC RECORD. BUT THE RECORDS THAT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE ONES WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC.

WHAT GOES ON WITHIN THE MEETINGS THAT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS HAVE.

I BELIEVE THAT ALSO WHAT IT DOES IS GIVE AS A LONG TIME INVESTIGATOR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY THAT WHEN WE ASK A SO CALLED LEADER OR A PERSON IN POSITION WHO IS HANDLING FUNDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THEM, THAT NOW THEY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU PRODUCE A SPREADSHEET OUTSIDE OF A COURT OF LAW OR OUTSIDE OF A TYPE OF INVESTIGATION, AND ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN IT.

BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BE, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

THESE ARE MY BOOKS. I WOULD PREFER THAT THE CITY PROVIDE THOSE BOOKS BASED ON A CITY UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY OR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT TYPE OF AUDIT, COMING FROM THE AGENCIES THAT DO THAT. I DO BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY COMING IN AND TALKING TO US, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY LOW IN THE TOLLING POLL AND FOR THE MOST PART, CANNOT ATTEST TO HOW MONEY IS BEING SPENT, OR WHETHER OR NOT THE VENDORS THAT COME IN HERE ARE BEING ADEQUATELY PAID OR OVERPAID FOR THAT MATTER.

I THINK IN RESPONSE AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, I BELIEVE IT IS. HOWEVER, WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH ARE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

I THINK IT'S ALSO A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S BEING SPENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IS SPENT PRUDENTLY.

MY SERIOUS CONCERN IS THAT IF ANOTHER AGENCY COMES IN HERE AND STARTS LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS ISSUES, JUST LIKE THEY DID IN THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES I BROUGHT UP DURING ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT A VENDOR THAT WAS ALLEGEDLY, I'M GOING TO USE THOSE TERMS AGAIN, ALLEGEDLY, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH WAS ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES. SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WERE INVESTIGATED FOR SOME MALFEASANCE. MY CONCERN WAS THAT WAS WHY DIDN'T WE DO AN AUDIT TO DETERMINE THAT WE WERE NOT A VICTIM OF THAT AS WELL.

SUDDENLY IT'S WELL, THEY'RE GONE NOW. IT DOES RAISE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT.

I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT THE CONCERN FOR ME IS THAT WHEN THERE'S A LIABILITY TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS IF WE ARE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT MONEY AND WHERE IT'S GOING AND IT'S BEING UTILIZED PROPERLY.

I THINK THE BIGGEST THING SO FAR IS THAT IF IN FACT, THERE IS TRANSPARENCY WITH TRANSPARENCY COMES TRUST. EACH AND EVERY TIME THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR SOME TRANSPARENCY, WE'VE HIT BRICK WALLS. SOMETIMES WITH THAT CAUSES MORE SUSPICION.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND IS THAT WHY WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION? AGAIN, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE INFORMATION IS VERY THOROUGH. IT'S VERY GOOD.

HOWEVER, IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF FORUM, IT WOULD JUST BE, IT'S ALL PUBLIC RECORDS.

THE REAL RECORDS WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT AND ASK ABOUT AND TO PINPOINT ARE WHAT IS GOING ON THAT IS NOT BEING PROVIDED TO US.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS WELL WITH THIS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. I HAVE A QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF ANOTHER THE NEW PALLET SHELTERS? THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. I WAS LIKE, HERE'S THE MONEY, HERE'S THE VENDOR NAME,

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THAT'S WHEN IT SURE ENDS. SO NO, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING TO COME BACK UP TO SAY WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE.

THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP, SO WE'LL GET THERE NOW THAT WE'VE WRANGLED ALL THE DATA BECAUSE DISAPPEARING ALL OF 2024. SOME PART OF ME, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WAS HOPING THAT THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER SO WHEN THEY CAME BACK, THEY WERE READY, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I WON'T SAY I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. I HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS BUT I DO HAVE A FEW HUGE QUESTIONS.

BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT, IF WE'RE AT FUNCTIONAL ZERO, WHY DO WE EVEN NEED 25 MORE? THE OTHER IS, WHY ARE THEY SAYING FUNCTIONAL ZERO WHEN IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL ZERO? IT'S FUNCTIONAL ZERO STREET HOMELESSNESS. THEY CONSPICUOUSLY LEAD THAT WORD OUT.

TO COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS'S POINT, WHAT ARE THE MEETINGS AND WHEN ARE WE NOT HEARING THE BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST IN THE ONLY REASON SOD OFF FOR ME WAS WHEN THE GENTLEMAN FROM SP COG CAME.

REMEMBER HE GAVE FOUR CATEGORIES OF FUNCTIONAL ZERO, STREET CAR THAT THERE'S.

WHY DID WE PICK STREET? AGAIN, A MEETING WE WEREN'T IN FOR TRANSPARENCY.

WE'RE SAYING FUNCTIONAL ZERO, BUT WE MEAN FUNCTIONAL ZERO FOR STREET HOMELESS.

BECAUSE I KNOW LILA OMER SAYS SHE'S GETTING A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A BENCH SOMEWHERE.

THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO. WELL, IT'S NOT ZERO, THEY'RE SAYING FUNCTIONAL ZERO.

THAT MEANS THAT THE INTAKE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN, IS LOWER THAN THE PEOPLE GOING OUT OR THE PEOPLE GOING OUT IS HIGHER.

IT'S ONE OF THAT CRAZY. IT'S THE MASK THAT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THE DELTA IS IN OUR FAVOR.

I GET IT BUT IT'S CURIOUS THAT THEY'RE LEAVING OUT THE WORD STREET.

THEY'RE HOMELESS THAT ARE LIVING OUT OF THEIR CARS. THEY'RE HOMELESS THAT BUT THEY'RE NOT SAYING STREET. IT'S STUFF LIKE THAT TO COMMISSIONERS POINT.

THIS IS GREAT THAT WE SEE WHAT'S VISIBLE BUT THE STUFF THAT'S INVISIBLE, IS A BEGGING A BIGGER QUESTION.

THAT'S A HUGE QUESTION THAT YOU JUST ASKED. IT HASN'T BEEN ALLOCATED? IT'S NOT COME UP IN CITY COUNCIL. WHERE IS IT SITTING IN LIMBO AND WHO'S OVERSEEING THAT VENDOR? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING THEM. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SHELTERS LIKE [OVERLAPPING] THEY AREN'T HOUSED, THAT'S WHY THEY NEED THE PALLET SHELTERS? CORRECT.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE NEEDS. THEY MIGHT HAVE TO STAY THERE LONGER AT THE PALLET SHELTER [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READY TO GET INTO THEIR OWN APARTMENT. CORRECT. BECAUSE OF THE PAPERWORK, WHICH IS THE CITY NET IS TO HELP WITH.

THERE ARE ACTUAL PROGRAM TENANTS THAT ARE WORKING.

TO HELP YOU GET YOUR ID AT THE DMV, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO DOES THAT WITH YOU TO HELP YOU GO ONLINE AND APPLY FOR EBT, BUT THERE'S SOMEONE WHO HELPS. THE PROGRAM PIECES APPEAR TO BE WORKING.

WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS IF YOU WILL, SUPPLY CHAIN.

I WANT TO SEE HOW THIS FROM SOUP TO NUTS, FROM A PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, GOT IT.

THEN THERE'S THESE OTHER THINGS LIKE OUR IT DIRECTOR, JUST PUT WI-FI AT THE PALLET SHELTER.

THAT'S NOWHERE. IT'S A THROWAWAY LINE ON THE CITY MANAGERS.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR ON THE MATRIX, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHO THE VENDOR IS, IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON IT, IT DOESN'T.

EVEN THOUGH I'VE GATHERED ALL THIS INFORMATION, I STILL DON'T HAVE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WAS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE SCOPED THAT VENDOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WENT IN. STUFF LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, BACK TO YOU [LAUGHTER] I AGREE WITH YOU THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S A TOP LINE, WHICH WE ALL SEE, AND THEN THERE'S THIS UNDERCURRENT THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT.

GREAT QUESTION, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET THAT INTEL BECAUSE IF SHE'S STILL GETTING CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND ALL DIFFERENT TIMES TO GO SOMEWHERE IN THE DROP OF A HAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO NEED A NAP. THERE ARE.

BUT THEY'VE GOT EVERYONE POSITIONED, AND NOW IT'S COLD.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW BECAUSE THERE IS A GENERAL SYSTEM, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, IT HAS AN ACRONYM,

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I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN LILA DOES SOME OF THOSE, THAT THEY MAKE IT INTO THAT SYSTEM.

BECAUSE SHE TAKES THEM IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY MAKE IT IN THERE. I KNOW THAT THE NUMBER BASED ON THE SYSTEM GETS US AT FUNCTIONAL ZERO FOR STREET HOMELESS.

I KNOW THAT. I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE ALSO BECAUSE THEY HEAR HOW GREAT IT IS IN REDONDO AND THEY GET HELP WITH THINGS.

THEY'RE COMING FROM OTHER CITIES [NOISE] TOO.

OTHER STATES WE'RE DUMPING THEIR PEOPLE INTO LA.

WE SEND THEM BACK THOUGH [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING ALL THAT DATA AND LOOKING WHERE THE FUNDING IS GOING BECAUSE MONEY IS POWER AND YOU WANT TO KNOW THE MONEY'S BEING USED WISELY TO HELP AND WHERE IT CAN BE REALLOCATED IF IT'S NOT IN THE PROPER BUCKET.

I'M SURE YOU ENCOUNTER A LOT OF RESISTANCE. [LAUGHTER] IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY AND THAT COULD USE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT.

YOU CAN SAY THIS PUBLIC INFORMATION BUT ONCE YOU TRY TO OBTAIN PUBLIC INFORMATION, YOU REALIZE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SO PUBLIC.

AGREED. BECAUSE MY PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS GETS KICKED DOWN [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

COMMISSIONER WODNICKI CITY MANAGER THAT COMMENT HE MADE THAT IT WAS A BIT DISTURBING.

I FOUND IT TO BE A BIT DISTURBING WAS THAT, ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE THAT THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR PERSON IS DOING A GOOD JOB, I DON'T BELIEVE HER POSITION OR HER JOB IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE, OR QUITE A FEW OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE BEEN WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF IN THIS CITY.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT WHERE THE BASE PAY OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS A HOUSING NAVIGATOR IS A LOT MORE THAN A BASE PAY OF A POLICE OFFICER.

THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME. I THINK MAYBE HE WAS JUST HE WAS TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW GOOD OF WORK SHE IS DOING, WHICH IS FINE. BUT I DON'T THINK AT THE COST AND IN MY MIND, A LITTLE BIT OF DISRESPECT TO OUR OFFICERS AND TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

OR EVEN OUR VOLUNTEERS OR DISPATCHERS OR ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BROKING THEIR BUTTS OFF FOR A LONG TIME.

AGAIN, SPECIAL FIREFIGHTERS ARE GET MAKING 16% LESS, ALMOST EVERY FIREFIGHTER IN SOUTH BAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. I'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE AND HE CAN GO WHEREVER IT WANTS. YOU SAID IT [NOISE]. WITH THAT, I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

I'LL COLLECT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION POINT, SO FEEL FREE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS OR THOUGHTS, JUST AROUND THE PROGRAM AROUND WHAT YOU'VE HEARD BECAUSE WE GET QUESTIONS, AT LEAST I KNOW I DO.

BUT ALSO TO SEVERAL POINTS, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE AND SO I TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE CLICKS ON THE LINK.

IT'S NOT JUST THE LINK THERE, CLICK ON IT, READ THE INFORMATION IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS IS ALL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS IS ALL THAT WE DO, BUT IT'S ONE OF OUR STANDARD THREE ITEMS ALWAYS.

FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ONE, POLICING IS TWO, AND OUR ENHANCED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS IS THREE.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE THINGS THAT ARE EVER GREEN FROM THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUBSTANTIVE COMMUNITY IMPACT.

THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE LIKE, HEY, THESE HOMELESS FOLKS ARE SMOKING, AND DRINKING, AND DOING DRUGS. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT HERE'S THE PROGRAM, HERE'S HOW IT'S WORKING, HERE'S THE SUSTAINABILITY OF IT, HERE'S WHERE WE SHARE YOUR QUESTIONS, AND HERE'S WHERE WE CAN PUT SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS TO REST.

THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE MOVE ALONG. BUDGET FINANCE DOES HAVE THE BUDGET PART ON THEIR AGENDA.

THEY JUST HAPPEN TO MEET ON THE SAME NIGHT AS THE ELECTION STUFF WAS HAPPENING.

THEIR MEETINGS GOT KICKED, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK TO IT.

WE'RE ONE THAT WAY IN APRIL. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, JUST CLICK ON THEIR LAST MEETING, YOU'LL SEE HOW FAR THEY WENT WITH IT AS WELL, ASKING QUESTIONS AND THE INTERIM BUDGET DIRECTOR COULDN'T ANSWER.

THEY SHARE SOME OF OUR FRUSTRATIONS AS WELL BECAUSE FROM A P&L, ARE WE ACTUALLY DOING THE BUDGET AND ALL THAT? THEY WERE, I SAY, CONCERNS BEING OVERGENEROUS AS TO SOME OF THEIR RESPONSE.

THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, NO, WE ARE NOT GETTING INTO THAT. FOR US, THOUGH, TO COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS POINT,

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THEN WHERE THE BITS ARE SUPPOSED TO GO, WE LET THAT DO IT TOO.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR, I FEEL LIKE WE WANT REPORTING ON VARIOUS ISSUES, NOT JUST THIS, AND THAT WE SHOULD BUILD DASHBOARDS OR MAKE REQUESTS FOR DASHBOARDS THAT INCLUDE THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANT, AND THE CADENCE THAT WE WANT THEM TO HAPPEN AND THEN MAKE THOSE REQUESTS TO THE CITY AND SEE WHAT COMES BACK.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING DOWN, AGAIN, REALLY DEEP INTO SOME FINANCE STUFF.

IF WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT REQUEST, I THINK THAT SOMEBODY HAD SAID THAT EARLIER TONIGHT IS, HOW YOU MAKE THE REQUEST WILL DETERMINE THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GIVEN IF YOU DO IT PROPERLY.

CORRECT. AS INSURANCES, I LIKED HOW HE WENT FURTHER DOWN IN THAT ONE.

FOR US, AND I'M GOING TO NOT SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF, BUT I HOPE YOU HEAR.

IN THE PAST, OUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN MET WITH CRICKETS, ZERO RESPONSE.

THAT'S ONE. THE SECOND TYPE RESPONSE WE GET IS A NON ANSWER.

WE'LL GET EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE ASK FOR, THEN WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE PROBING QUESTION, IT'S MET WITH NUMBER 3, I'M JUST NOT GOING TO SHOW UP.

WE HAVE NOT HAD, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING MUCH MORE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY SMARTER, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OPTION, BUT WE'RE SMARTER WITH OUR QUESTIONS, THEY'RE MORE TARGETED AND MORE LIKE, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE MEAN.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK A QUESTION THAT YOU TAKE AS AMBIGUOUS AND YOU'RE LIKE, I DID GIVE [OVERLAPPING] YOU AN ANSWER, SO GETTING THAT VERY TARGETED SET OF QUESTIONS.

I THINK AT LEAST FOR ME, PRESENTING AS MUCH DATA AS POSSIBLE ELIMINATE SOME OF THE WHITE NOISE AS WELL BECAUSE WE GET COMMUNITY PEOPLE SAYING THIS, AND IT DROWNS OUT THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WILL HELP US TO RESPOND AGAIN.

GREAT POINT. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS I THINK TO THIS, THE UNDERSTANDING OR MY UNDERSTANDING ANYWAY WAS, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN INDICATE THAT IT WAS NOT THE PURE PURVIEW OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

I THINK IDEALLY HAD IT BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE, OTHER THAN JUST ANECDOTAL CRIME STATISTICS AND WHATEVER ELSE.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IS ONES THAT THE CITY BASICALLY PUT US IN THIS POSITION BY HOW THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY IS BEING HANDLED.

I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS AMONG MANY PEOPLE THAT THE HOMELESS ISSUE IS NOT A CITY ATTORNEY ISSUE, IT IS IN FACT A HOUSING ISSUE. BUT HOWEVER SINCE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS CHOSEN OR WAS MANDATED, HOWEVER, WAY YOU WANT TO GET TO IT, IT IS NOW PUT IN THAT PURVIEW AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FALLS UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION ISSUES.

THEREFORE, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO INDICATE THAT THE HOMELESS ISSUE WAS MORE OR LESS CITY GENERATED BY THE POLICIES OR A LACK TO POLICIES THAT WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO COME OUT HERE, IT'S HERE AND IT'S HERE TO STAY. THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE ARE TAKING ON SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT, THEN DON'T PUT IT IN OUR FACE. THAT'S WHAT OCCURRED, AND NOW THAT IT'S THERE, I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE SOMETHING THAT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO ALSO HAVE. IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THEY DON'T WANT US TO LOOK AT IT, THEN MOVE IT OVER THE HOUSING AND JUST GIVE US A STATUS BETWEEN MOONSTONE OF WHO GETS BEAT UP AND WHO DOESN'T, AND LET THEM WORRY ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY GOES. BUT I THINK WHAT IT IS IS THAT IS BASICALLY IT WAS SHOVED INTO OUR LAP, AND IF SO, THEN WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO FRAUD WASTE AND ABUSE THAT IS GOING ON WITH THE MONEY THAT CAN BE USED.

FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT THEY'VE WRITTEN FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS COURT, CAN BE USED FOR THESE OFFICERS OR OVERTIME OR THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE CAN DO ALL STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEREFORE, AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T ASK QUESTIONS AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE WITHIN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT WHO DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I DO BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN ANSWER. UNFORTUNATELY,

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BUT I THINK THAT ONCE THE PEOPLE ARE MORE TRANSPARENT, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, WE'VE ASKED FOR STUFF AND BASICALLY STONE WALL AND TO THE POINT OF SAYING, NOW I HAVE TO ASK MORE. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

THEN I FIND IT A BIT DISHEARTENING THAT ONE OF THE CITY PEOPLE WILL NOT GIVE US INFORMATION AND THEN FORCE US TO DO A OPEN RECORDS REQUEST WHEN IT COULD HAVE JUST JUST BEEN EASY.

IT ACTUALLY TAKES MORE TIME, MORE MONEY AND EFFORT TO DO THAT HAD SOMEBODY BEEN MORE COOPERATIVE WITH US.

THEN BECAUSE I SAID SO ANSWER, I'M A LITTLE TOO OLD FOR THAT.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY AS WE GO THROUGH.

I THINK WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT OR IT APPEARS IF YOU LOOK AT BACK AT ALL THE VIDEO, I BEEN WOULD SAY AND TRUST THAT OUR GENERAL INTENT IS FOR THE GOODWILL OF THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALLY PUSH OUT THERE.

I HAVE NO POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS WHATSOEVER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE GUYS, OFFICERS, ARE SAFE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. SAME THING WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT WE GET WHAT WE PAY FOR AS WELL.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF IS SERIOUSLY LACKING. THAT'S MY TWO AND A HALF CENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU GREAT DISCUSSION. I'M SUPER EXCITED. COMMISSIONER YOU WANT TO TAKE IT? I'M FINE. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS FUTURE ACTIVITIES? YES, THAT'S K1. WITH THAT, WE'RE MOVING TO J5.

I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE. AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, BUT WE DIDN'T MORE FORMALLY DO IT.

WANTED TO DO A SUBCOMMITTEE ON RECOGNIZING OUR VIPS.

I WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT AND THEN SEE WHAT THE APPETITE FOR THOSE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

LONG STORY SHORT. WANTED TO DO A SUBCOMMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LOCAL EITHER BUSINESSES OR WHATNOT, THAT WE CAN GET TROPHIES OR PLAQUES OR SOME RECOGNITION ITEM TO THEN PUT TOGETHER CRITERIA FOR OUR VIPS AND TIPS, AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS IN OUR THEM AS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, IF YOU WILL, FORMING THAT SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN GETTING VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE FIGURING OUT WHAT THE SUNRISE AND SUNSET DATE OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE AND HOW OFTEN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD REPORT AND TO US, HERE'S OUR PROGRESS. HERE'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AS FAR AS METRICS, AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE OUT, SUPPORT TO. WITH THAT, I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. SINCE YOU JUST DID IT I THINK WHAT MAY HAVE TO OR SHOULD BE EXPLORED WHILE I WAS ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, I AUTHORED A PUBLIC RECOGNITION PROGRAM WHICH IS NOW IMPLEMENTED AND WHICH CAN BE REPLICATED.

IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CITY PREVIOUSLY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S THERE.

BUT IT BASICALLY ALLOWS RECOGNITION OF ANY VOLUNTEER WITHIN THE CITY.

THAT ONE IS PARTICULAR TO ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS PROMOTED THE IDEAS AND PHILOSOPHY OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THIS CAN ALSO BE CHANGED TO ANYONE WHO IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL AND JUST CHANGE THE WORDS AROUND IT'S THERE AND HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY AS WELL.

THEREFORE, THERE'S NO NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

I AGREE. SOMETHING THAT'S FAIRLY BASIC AND PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DOES THIS I'M GUESSING DEPARTMENT HAVE FUNDING SIMILAR TO LIKE THE RECREATION AND PARKS FUNDING BECAUSE.

THERE'S NO FUNDING. FOR THAT AWARD, THERE WAS NO FUNDING.

WELL, THERE WAS. WE GOT MONEY FROM THE RECREATION AND PARKS.

BUT WHEN I FIRST IMPLEMENTED IT, THERE WAS NO FUNDING AND IT WAS BASICALLY AGAIN, I WILL PUT IT YOU THIS WAY,

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NOW, IF THEY WANT SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO STEP UP, THAT'S FINE TOO. BUT AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IT, IT WAS THERE WAS NO FUNDING FOR IT. AT THE RECREATION AND PARKS, WE VOTED AFTER YOU LEFT BECAUSE TRANSITIONED OVER TO THIS ONE AND WE APPROVED THE PROGRAM AND GOT FUNDING FROM THE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE TROPHIES BECAUSE THEY GOT A LITTLE WOOD SURF BOARD AND CERTIFICATE WITH IT AND WHATNOT. I THINK THAT WE INITIALLY SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FUNDING AND THEN KELLY JUST STEPPED UP AND SAID, I GOT THE FUNDING. I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, IS THERE FUNDING AROUND THAT SO THAT IT'S AN EQUITABLE RECOGNITION TO THOSE THAT ARE BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION PARKS.

WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS WHEN WE FORM THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, EACH OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS GETS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

WHEN WE PUT THE CHARTER TOGETHER, WHAT IT'S ABOUT, I'M PRETTY SURE IF WE SAY WE WANT TROPHIES AND THE TROPHIES COST 80 BUCKS APIECE, THEY'RE I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'LL HAPPILY TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT 3 ON DISTRICT 05, DISTRICT 1 IS FOR, I'M SURE EACH OF THEM WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE HISTORY ON THAT QUESTION.

YES. HOLD ONE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAD HISTORY DOING THAT, SO THAT'S FANTASTIC. I WROTE.

IT WAS LIKE HIS WHOLE THING. [OVERLAPPING] LOVE IT.

YEAH. SO FROM A SUBCOMMITTEE PERSPECTIVE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON IT OR JUST PROVIDE DIRECTION? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NEEDS MY DIRECTION. NO.

I'M ASKING YOU WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. I THINK MY CONCERN WOULD BE OVERSIGHT AND ABILITY TO THE LEEWAY TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE WHAT IS OUT THERE AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THEN MAKE A PRESENTATION UNENCUMBERED.

THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN.

WHEN YOU SAY OVERSIGHT WHAT'S OVERSIGHT? THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE BE ALLOWED TO EXPLORE LOOK AND TO GATHER INFORMATION WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF INTERVENTION. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

IT WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT SUBCOMMITTEE. IT WOULD ONLY BE THREE MEMBERS OF THIS TEAM, AND IT WOULD HAVE A SUNRISE SUNSET CHARTER STARTING IN THE MONTH OF APRIL ENDING IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER CHARTER BEING RECOGNITION OF END.

I WOULD INDICATE THAT IF YOU WOULD TO GO AHEAD AND BYPASS ME FOR NOW AND SEE WHO ELSE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT AND THEN DETERMINE FROM THERE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KLEIN. DID YOU OFFER COMMENTS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SUBCOMMITTEE. FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

NO, I DECIDE THE CLAIM. COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THOUGHTS.

THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US LEFT. [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GETTING SHORT HERE.

I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE SHORT STRAW, BUT YOU ASKED ME AND SKIBA HAS COME BACK. EXACTLY. I'M GOING TO GRACEFULLY DECLINE FOR NOW.

NO WORRIES. IT DOES MEAN WE HAVE TO DO IT. IT WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO HERE WE ARE.

WELL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DO. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION OF, IS THERE A LARGER NEED FOR RECOGNITION FOR VOLUNTEERS ACROSS THE CITY? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT WAS REALLY NICE WHEN FOLKS CAME TO THE COMMISSION MEETING AND WE WERE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THEM. BUT WHEN THEY'RE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY'RE BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS OPPOSED TO NOT TO SAY JUST US, BUT JUST US. I THINK THERE'S A BIGGER NEED TO HAVE A LARGER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION PROGRAM AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT MAYBE MORE THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY, BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAD ON THE RECREATION AND PARKS WAS ONE, IT GOT NARROWED VERY MUCH TO VOLUNTEERS FOR THE RECREATION AND PARKS BECAUSE WE EXPANDED, I GUESS, A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS INITIALLY. THEN WE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE, WHICH WAS REALLY INTERESTING. WE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME DOING THAT.

WE WERE GOING TO THE SOCCER LEAGUE TO SAY, "HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY THAT YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE?" WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE AND NOBODY

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IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE THE FORM OF SUBCOMMITTEE WE COULD LEAVE IT AT THIS LEVEL. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT US AS A COMMISSION IS WE THEN GET TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. WE COULD COME UP WITH THE CRITERIA.

WE COULD COME UP WITH THE NOMINATIONS, AND THEN WE COULD WRITE THE LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO RECOGNIZE THESE FOLKS AND THEY WOULD.

THAT WOULD BE A HYBRID OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE WORK BE DONE AT THIS LEVEL, BUT THEN THE PRESENTATION BE DONE AT THAT LEVEL.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I THINK IT'S ITEM NUMBER 3, IT'S ANNOUNCEMENTS, RECOGNITION, PROCLAMATIONS. WE COULD HAVE THEM SLIDED IN THERE AND THEN DO THAT OVERTLY AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IT WOULD BE A HYBRID, AND IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH OUR CHARTER, WE GATHER INFORMATION AT THIS LEVEL.

WE TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE SEND A LETTER THROUGH KYLE TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY TAKE IT FROM THERE.

CAN I RESPOND? ONE SECOND. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, PARDON, YOU CAN GO ON.

THE ISSUE THAT CAME UP WITHIN THE PARKS INITIALLY WAS THAT IT WAS PURPOSELY SOMEWHAT NARROWED IN ORDER NOT TO STEP ON OTHERS.

I GET THAT. THERE WERE MORE THAN A FEW PEOPLE THAT I LOOKED AT AND HAD SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHO COULD OR SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CAN AND CANNOT BE RATHER RECOGNIZED. AGAIN, NOT BEING ON THE COMMISSION.

THEY CHOOSE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND I STEP BACK.

I DON'T LIVE MY LIFE LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR. I WOULD ALSO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION IS THAT I THINK AS A COMMISSION, THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ON OUR OWN AS WELL. THAT IS THAT IF WE SEE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED, WHY SHOULD WE WAIT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO STEP UP? BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE FIVE YEARS AGO, I BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF RECOGNITION FOR VOLUNTEERS AND BASICALLY WAS, OH YEAH, WE'LL GET TO IT. CRICKETS. I BELIEVE IN VOLUNTEERISM, I VOLUNTEER MYSELF.

I DO A LOT OF LOOK AT THAT. THE THING I LOOK AT IS THAT IF WE WAIT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO SOMETHING, MOST OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE GOING TO BE DEAD BY THE TIME WE GET THEM ANYTHING. [LAUGHTER] WHAT'S IT COST US? NO MORE THAN 25 CENTS FOR A CERTIFICATE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I'LL TELL YOU, SOME PEOPLE THAT'S ALL THEY ASKED FOR.

THAT'S ALL. I WOULD DISPUTE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR, THOUGH, AND YOU'RE MAKING ASSUMPTION THAT WHAT WAS IN THE PAST IS GOING TO BE IN THE PRESENT THAN CURRENT. HOPEFULLY NOT. I HOPE NOT THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IS THAT I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IS THIS.

YES, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO THAT.

THE MAYOR WHEN HE HEARD US HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO, HE DID SAY, SEND ME THE INFORMATION AND WE'LL DO IT.

ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO DID GET THE PARKS AND RECREATION AWARD CERTIFICATE AS WELL GOT THE PRESIDENTIAL UNIT, A PRESIDENTIAL VOLUNTEER. I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT I THINK THAT IF WE TRY TO KICK IT UP TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

I SAY WHY GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY WHEN WE CAN DO AND I THINK FOR A VOLUNTEER, FOR AN OFFICER, WHATEVER ELSE IS THAT THEY GET FIVE OF THEM. ONE FROM US, ONE FROM CITY COUNCIL, AND IF THEY HAPPEN TO DRIVE THROUGH THE PARK, AND THEY GET ONE FROM THE PARKS. GREAT. BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES THAT WE DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE OUR PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT OR NOT, THERE'S I THINK NINE WOMEN WHO WORK AT MORRELL HOUSE EVERY TUESDAY AND THEY CUT ROSES.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 15 YEARS. THEY FLY UNDER THE RADAR.

THEN THEY'VE EVEN SAID, WELL, NOBODY'S OFFERED ANYTHING.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED ESPIONAGE, PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE DOG PARK.

I THINK IF WE WAIT, IF WE LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, I THINK WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING THEN IS THAT EVERYBODY'S SITTING AROUND WAITING AROUND FOR 11 O'CLOCK AND THEY ASK, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR 11 O'CLOCK? THEN WHEN IT HAPPENS AND OKAY, LET'S GO HOME.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THE PARAMETERS, IT SHOULD BE ANYTHING IN ANYBODY IF A KID SEES SOMETHING AND IT LEADS TO THE ARREST OF FOUR BURGLARS, THAT KID DESERVES SOMETHING BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHAT'S GOING TO DO.

ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN DO, ANYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY, ANYWHERE WHO ASSISTS THEM, FIRE,

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I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THE LETTER POPPED OUT.

ON THE TEMPORARY KENNELS THAT ARE BEHIND THE POLICE STATION.

FOUR GIRLS WERE WORKING ON THAT FOR A YEAR NOW.

FOR THEIR SILVER AWARD. SOMEBODY LIKE THAT WHO SEES AN ISSUE WHO WORKS UP DESERVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF WE WAIT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, THESE KIDS WILL BE OUT OF COLLEGE BY THEN.

AGAIN, I'VE BEEN A BIT FACETIOUS, BUT I'M ALSO BEING VERY REALISTIC.

I'VE SEEN IT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT.

I DO IT ON THE DAILY, SO I VERY WELL UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO RECOGNIZE VOLUNTEERS.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAVE CONSISTENT AND VALUABLE RECOGNITION.

YES. BECAUSE IF YOU RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY FOR EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, IT LOSES ITS VALUE AS WELL.

SURE. THERE'S AN IMPORTANCE. WE'RE HERE WITH ONE PERSON, NO OFFENSE IN THE AUDIENCE, OURSELVES, AND NOBODY ONLINE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOGNITION IS VALUABLE AND MEANINGFUL AND NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SPENDING 25 CENTS ON AND THROWING ON A CERTIFICATE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT THAN THAT AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE VERY MEANINGFUL.

THAT'S ON US AS HOW WE APPROACH IT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW WE VALUE IT.

AGAIN, WE'RE ON THE VOLUNTEER SIDE IS THAT YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY.

BUT YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO NOBODY. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET 100% COOPERATION, WE'RE GOING TO DO ZERO. I THINK THIS IS A FIRST STEP IN GOING AND THAT, AGAIN, IT WAS BROUGHT UP A YEAR AGO. AGAIN, FOUR YEARS AGO WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY HAS ALREADY SHOWN US THEIR DIRECTION WITH THE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THE ONLY VOLUNTEERS GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WERE RECOGNIZED WITH A DOCENTS FROM THE LIBRARY.

VIPS OCCASIONALLY WHEN THEY COME UP WITH STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH MEANS THAT THE POLICE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN, WHICH HISTORICALLY IS WHAT THEY GENERALLY THEY DO. NO OTHER VOLUNTEERS WITHIN THESE CITIES WERE ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I COULD BE VERY WRONG. ABOUT "HEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH." THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING AT, AND THAT IS WHY AN ORGANIZATION STEPPED UP FOR THE VIPS AFTER THE NUMBERS CAME OUT AND SAID, WHAT HAVE WE DONE LATELY? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED IS THAT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT HAVE WE DONE LATELY FOR THESE PEOPLE? I THINK IT'S A START AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CHEAP IN IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ALSO GO AWAY.

I WOULD SAY THAT ANYONE WHO VOLUNTEERS FOR THE CITY TWO THINGS MEAN THE WORLD TO THEM.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND APPRECIATION. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOME GRANDS.

NOT ALL. BALLOONS AND WHATNOT. JUST TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

JUST TO BE APPRECIATED. THAT'S MOTIVATION ENOUGH.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO ANY OF THEM A SERVICE BY SAYING IT'LL MEAN MORE IF IT CAME FROM CITY COUNCIL.

IT'LL MEAN MORE IF IT CAME FROM THE MAYOR, IT'LL MEAN MORE WHEN THE BASELINE IS ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND/OR APPRECIATION.

HAVING THE ONE GENTLEMAN AND JUST SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS, FOLKS, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR I'VE BEEN HERE THAT WE'VE HAD ACTIVE PARTICIPATION. WE'VE HAD AUDIENCE MEMBERS, AND IT'S WHEN WE LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR AGENDA.

TONIGHT, WE LET THEM KNOW TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE A WORKING SESSION. NO ONE NEEDED TO BE AT OUR WORKING SESSION.

NO ONE NEEDED TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN US THEY WANT US TO TALK ABOUT CANNABIS.

THEY WANT US TO TALK ABOUT SMOKE SHOPS. THEY WANT US TO TALK ABOUT.

THEY'VE GIVEN US ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS ON OUR NEXT GEN K-1.

IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'VE GIVEN YOU, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO SHOW.

[OVERLAPPING] I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT SAYING DON'T DO IT.

[OVERLAPPING] THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL [OVERLAPPING] I WANT TO PUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN CONTEXT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS BE MINDFUL ON YOUR APPROACH. [OVERLAPPING]. I HAVE A COMMENT. BE A 100%, HOLD ON. THEN AS THE SELF COMMITTEE CHAIR PERSON THAN YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF.

I DID NOT VOLUNTEER. [LAUGHTER] I WAITED FOR COMMISSIONER SKIBA TO COME BACK TO DO THAT.

I'VE TO COMMENT. [OVERLAPPING]. YOU NEED TO BE HEARD. MY FIRST COMMENT IS THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. KARL FOR BEING HERE. [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE. I'M SO HAPPY YOU'VE STAYED THE ENTIRE DURATION. I GIVE YOU RECOGNITION.

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WAY. APPRECIATE [OVERLAPPING]. I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT TOO.

I APPRECIATE YOU'LL. MY SECOND COMMENT IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE ONLY IF COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS WOULD BE ON IT. BECAUSE HE'S SO KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

[OVERLAPPING]. I NOTICED THIS IS FOR ALL OF US. [OVERLAPPING] I ALREADY KNOW THE FRAMEWORK. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM YOU IN THIS FIELD.

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THAT'S TWO MEMBERS. WE NEED ONE MORE. [LAUGHTER] WHO'S GOING TO BE.

YOU GOING TO BE MAD TO ME FOR THIS. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S MY QUESTION.

HERE'S A CASE AND IF YOU WANT IT GOOD. NOTHING SAYS IT HAS TO BE THREE. IF YOU WANT TO DO TWO, WE'LL DO TWO. NO. CORRECT. MAX THREE. [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU DO TWO? WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING SET READY TO GO BY THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU.

[OVERLAPPING] IT'S GREAT. I CAN'T GET OUT FAST.

MOTION TO NOMINATE. MOTION TO FORM SUBCOMMITTEE ON VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION.

FREE LUNCH. [LAUGHTER] WITH MEMBERS, COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS , AND COMMISSIONER WARD NIKKI. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSE. WARD NIKKI AS A CHAIR. SHE AS A CHAIR.

[LAUGHTER]. SUNSET DATE. DO I AMEND OR. YOU JUST SAY IT, I'LL WRITE IT DOWN, AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY. SUNSET DATE NOVEMBER'S. WAIT I HAVE A QUESTION.

MAY OR JUNE. DISCUSSION IS STILL OPEN. DISCUSSION IS OPEN.

HOW ABOUT YOU ALL TELL US? WE'RE GOING TO SAY NOVEMBER AND IF WE AMEND IT, WHEN YOU COME BACK NEXT TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE AWARDS IN THIS MONTH, THIS AWARD OR LIKE, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, THEN WE'LL KNOW DEFINITIVELY WHAT THE SUNSET DATE WILL BE BECAUSE IF THE LAST SET OF AWARDS OR WHATEVER IS HANDED OUT IN MONTH X, THEN THAT'S THE SUNSET DATE. THEN IS PART OF THAT COMMISSIONER.

TBD. AS PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, WILL YOU ALL INCLUDE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PROCESS THOSE BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REVIEW THOSE BEFORE THEY CAME.

YES. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE SUNSET TIMING.

THEY BRING IT TO US AND THEN WE. IDEALLY [OVERLAPPING] IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY TYPE OF PROGRAM.

THE PROTOCOLS HAVE TO GO IN THERE AS TO ONE THE CRITERIA AS TO RATHER WHO CAN NOMINATE, WHO CAN BE NOMINATED? THEN WHAT THE CRITERIA FOR THAT WOULD BE.

THEN IF NECESSARY, A LEVEL OF AWARDS, IT CAN BE.

WE CAN CONFIGURE THAT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, ALMOST TO THE POINT OF AN ACCORDION EFFECT.

THE MORE, SAY IT'S A WHOLE GROUP OF KIDS, WHATEVER, OR WHOEVER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL, ALL THE WAY UP TO SOMETHING TO A POINT WHERE IF YOU DO A LEVEL SUCH AS SOMEONE WHO DOES, SAY A LIFE SAVING TYPE OF DEAL.

PULLS THE KID OUT. THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY DELICATELY GO THROUGH TO DETERMINE THAT AWARD WOULD BE A HIGHER LEVEL THAN SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU RETURN A STOLEN BICYCLE.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO CHEAPEN IT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THEN ALSO THE LEVELS OF VOLUNTEERISM TO THE CITY, POSSIBLY EVEN TO INCLUDE THE PRESIDENTIAL VOLUNTEER AWARD THAT AUGMENTS THAT AWARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID BEFORE. THEN ALSO SEARCH FOR OTHER AWARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE, EITHER THE COUNTY THAT DOES THEM AS WELL, AND TO TAP INTO THEIR FINANCES, THEIR AWARDS.

LET THIS PERSON WALK OUT WITH A WAGON FULL OF AWARDS, MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO ENSURE THAT WE SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THAT WILL MAKE IT HARD AGAIN. [OVERLAPPING] MY GOAL IN THIS JUST LIKE IS TO MAKE IT TO A POINT OF THAT IT IS AN AWARD THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOOK FOR TO BE PROUD OF, AND THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH THE VOLUNTEER AWARDS IN THE LAPEL PIN, THAT THEY WOULD WEAR THAT LAPEL PIN VERY PROUDLY.

HOPEFULLY, WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT OR WE LIKE OR NOT TO SHAKE SOMEBODY UP IN THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD EXTEND THIS TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

I WOULD EVEN ADD THAT MAYBE THEY DO A COMMISSION ROUND TABLE.

PARKS AND AT THEIR COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'RE RECOGNIZING ALL THE COMMISSIONS WHO DO IT.

THAT'LL ALSO DRUM UP MOTION, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

[OVERLAPPING]. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, BUT MAYBE NOT. [OVERLAPPING] WE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF THAT.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT WAS GREAT. WE LOOK AT THAT AWARD INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING IT AND WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP AND MADE THAT MOTION AT THE BEGINNING,

[02:15:03]

THAT'S EXACTLY IF YOU GO BACK, YOU'LL SEE EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IF THE ART AWARD WANTS TO GIVE IT OUT TO EVERY ARTIST THAT'S OUT THERE, OR GRAFFITI OR WHATEVER.

GREAT. IF THE HISTORY PEOPLE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY FIND SOMETHING GOOD.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT SOMETIMES IS GOOD. EXACTLY. THANKS ACKNOWLEDGMENT PHYSICIAN.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD DISCUSSION.

GREAT DISCUSSION. WE ARE AT THE POINT IF OFFICER LOST FROM SAYS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

WE'RE ON ITEM K. THIS IS COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.

[K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

ONE, IF THERE WERE EVENTS THAT YOU ATTENDED, IF THERE WAS ANY REPORTS, ANY PEOPLE THAT YOU SPOKE TO, LET'S BRING THOSE UP TOO. IF THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AT FUTURE MEETINGS, MAKE A MOTION, HAVE IT SECONDED, LET'S DISCUSS, AND THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON IT.

I'M GOING TO START AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO DOWN.

WELCOME, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, WHO WAS VOTED IN ON THIS COMMISSION THIS PAST TUESDAY AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOMINATED BY MAYOR LIGHT. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

YES. I WAS SITTING RIGHT THERE. I SAW. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME. SHE WAS SWORN IN EARLIER THIS EVENING.

WE'LL BE POSTING PHOTOS ON EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.

NO, WE WON'T. WE APPRECIATE YOU. SHE COMES FROM OUR PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION. WE ACTUALLY BOTH INTERVIEWED THE SAME NIGHT, AUGUST 14TH OF LAST YEAR.

WE'RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU. ALREADY YOU'RE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. ?? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

YES. FOR REFERENCE, IF YOU CLICK IN K1, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A MEMORANDUM FROM OFFICER LOFSTROM THAT HAS ITEMS THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT WE WANT TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA.

IF PART OF YOUR FEEDBACK COULD BE WHAT MONTH YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING AS WELL. WITH THAT, SORRY, COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REVISIT THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE AMENDMENT LICENSING.

ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A LICENSING OF DOGS, BUT IT IS AMENDED TO INCLUDE MICROCHIPPING OF DOGS.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT WE PLACE A LITTLE HIGHER PRIORITY ON THAT, THAT IT BE HEARD IN THE NEXT MEETING.

MY CONCERN IS THAT, ONE, THE LONGER IT JUST SETTLES, THE FARTHER AWAY WE GET FROM THE DISCUSSION. MY CONCERN IS THAT IT GET PUSHED BACK SO FAR JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE HAD, FOR WHATEVER REASON, A YEAR, A YEAR-AND-A-HALF LATER.

THE RESEARCH HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH THIS.

I THINK THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE LOSES THEIR DOG BETWEEN NOW AND SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, THEY WOULD PROBABLY WONDER AS TO WHY WE DIDN'T STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH LIKES TO DO IS TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF CERTAIN ISSUES.

I BELIEVE THIS WILL PUT US AHEAD OF QUITE A FEW OF THE OTHER CITIES IN THE SOUTH BAY, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN THE COUNTY IN RESEARCHING AND LOOKING AT THE MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING OF DOGS.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS DISCUSSION BE UPGRADED IN PRIORITY TO THE NEXT MEETING.

I YIELD. CAN I JUST REAL QUICK? SECOND? I SECOND.

YES. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. YES. NOW WE'RE OPENING THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR. MY QUESTION IS, WHY JUST DOGS AND WHY NOT DOGS AND CATS? THAT WOULD BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION FOR THAT. I THINK THE DISCUSSION OF CATS AS WELL, WE CAN GO DOWN THAT PATH, WHICH IS FINE. THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES WHO HAVE DOGS AND CATS.

[02:20:01]

I INTERJECT. YES. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. THAT'S OKAY.

I WOULD SAY DOGS BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED.

IT'S EASIER TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT TO BE MICROCHIPPED, WHEREAS CATS, YOU DO NOT NEED TO LICENSE.

REMEMBER THE MOTION IS TO JUST UPDATE IN PRIORITY FOR THE DISCUSSION TOPIC.

I JUST WANT TO SLIGHTLY PUSH BACK ON NONE OF THESE ARE PRIORITY PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S UP TO YOU TO TELL US WHAT MONTH YOU WANT TO HAVE IT IN, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON IT.

YOU MADE IT YOUR MOTION AND SECOND TO HAVE IT IN APRIL.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, YOU'RE CITING A LOT OF DATA, ARE YOU GOING TO BE PROVIDING US DATA? YES. IT'S NOT A LOT OF DATA. IT'S JUST VERY GOOD.

YOU'RE JUST SAYING. I'M SORRY. LET ME AMEND THAT.

YES. ANY DATA THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED WOULD BE PROVIDED TO YOU ON THAT DATE.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF PROTOCOL. THE OTHER THING I WOULD INDICATE THE INVITATION TO ANIMAL CONTROL.

WE HAVE THAT. BUT NO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS.

BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IT TO DO IS TO SAY, WE WANT THEM HERE AS OPPOSED TO WE ARE DEMANDING THEIR PRESENCE, AND IF THEY CAN'T SHOW UP, THEN IT THROWS THE WHOLE THING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD VERY KINDLY REQUEST THEIR INPUT, AND THAT THE INPUT MAY BE EITHER IN PERSON, EMAIL, TELEGRAM OR THEM SENDING A SUBORDINATE PERSON WHO WORKS WITHIN THERE, WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT AS TO AN ANIMAL CONTROL PERSPECTIVE AS OPPOSED TO A CITY PERSPECTIVE IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT DOES. THAT'S HOW WE MAKE IN OUR REQUESTS RECENTLY.

BECAUSE EITHER IF WE LOOK AT AN ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANY, THE LIEUTENANT IN CHARGE OF THE ANIMAL CONTROL MAY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE CALLING HIM IN AND WE'RE NOT. IT COULD BE THE OFFICER IN CHARGE OF ANIMAL CONTROL.

IT COULD BE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ACTUAL DOG CATCHER. BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN INFORMATION THAT I DO HAVE THAT EITHER ONE THAT CAN CLARIFY, BUT IT'S ONLY A REQUEST. IT IS NOT A MANDATORY THING.

IF THEY CAN RESPOND TO THAT IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO AS TO WHETHER THEY WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE, NEGATIVE, OR NO OPINION AS TO THIS TYPE OF REQUEST.

ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN THE ORDINANCE? YES. IF YOU COULD SHOOT THAT TO MYSELF AND KYLE, WE CAN MAKE THAT A PART. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT IT TO, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SHOOT IT TO EVERYBODY. EXACTLY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID MYSELF AND KYLE. ANYTHING YOU WANT UNDER THE DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THEM TO REVIEW, IF YOU COULD HAVE IT TO ME BY 14TH OF APRIL, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

PERFECT. NOW, I WOULD CAUTION YOU IN THAT, ONE, I'M A LITTLE MORE OF A PIN HIT ON THIS, SO I MAY PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. PLEASE PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, INCLUDING MAYBE I THINK THE LAST MAYBE FIVE OR SIX CITIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE THIS IN PLACE, AND THEN MAYBE THE CONTACT NUMBER OF THEM AS TO HOW IT IS OR IS NOT WORKING.

PERFECT. BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN MAKE IT A ROLLING AGENDA.

APRIL WILL BE THE OPENING TIME WHERE WE GET ALL THE DISCUSSION POINTS OUT.

THEN AT THE END OF THAT, WE'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO NEXT.

DO WE WANT TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE? HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT AND THEN PRESENT IT TO THE COUNCIL. PERFECT.

THAT JUST REMINDS ME I NEED TO PAUSE REAL QUICK.

J5, I NEED TO MOTION TO MOVE THAT AS A CONTINUED ITEM.

THAT'S FINE. THAT'LL ROLL INTO THE STANDING ITEM.

THANKS. SORRY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SKIBA? WELL, A LOT OF THE ANIMAL RESCUE GROUPS NOW THAT RESCUE CATS ARE CHIPPING THE CATS, OR BEFORE THEY WILL LET YOU ADOPT THEM, THEY CHIP THEM AS PART OF PREPARATION SO THAT AT LEAST IF THEY GET OUT, SOMEHOW IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO TRACK THEM.

TO BE SURE, BUT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THE ANIMAL ITEM.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ANIMAL ITEM. NO. WE JUST MOVED TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

YES. TO PUT IT FOR APRIL, BUT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT NOW.

[02:25:02]

WE ARE ON THE JUST, DO WE UNDERSTAND. I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT CLOSE TO DISCUSSING THE ACTUAL TOPIC.

JUST THE MOVING UP TO APRIL MOTION. THAT'S THE REQUEST.

IS EVERYONE OKAY? I'LL TAKE A VOTE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

MY QUESTION IS, THERE'S OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE AS PRETTY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

WE CAN'T ADDRESS ALL OF THEM IN THE SAME MEETING.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING DOWN WHAT WE DO WE WANT TO COMPARE.

IT'S IN CHRONOLOGY ORDER RIGHT NOW. IF WE'RE VOTING ON DOGS NOW AND WE'RE SAYING LET'S MOVE THAT TO NEXT MONTH, WE'RE TAKING UP AN AGENDA SLOT FOR NEXT MONTH.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THIS LIST AND WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE ITEM. IF IT'S SUBSTANTIAL, THEN WE TRY AND ONLY PUT LIKE ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON TOP OF THE STANDING ITEMS. IF THERE'S FOUR NOT SUPER SUBSTANTIAL OR GUEST SPEAKER ITEMS, THEN THAT'S MORE REASONABLE IN THAT CASE.

IT'S A TETRIS. JUST EMAIL ME OR US. YOU CAN EVEN GUESS IT. I'M GOOD AT THAT. [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S TRUE IT'S A VOTE.

[OVERLAPPING] BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY SOME OF THESE, THEY'VE BEEN SITTING FOR SO LONG ANYWAY.

I'M LOOKING AT JUVENILE DELINQUENCY AND STREET RACING, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH SUMMER COMING. SURE. AGREED. THAT'S WHY WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT.

HE'S TAKEN ONE AGENDA TOPIC FOR APRIL. I THINK WE CAN AFFORD ANOTHER MEETING.

JUST THINK OF LAST MONTH, WE HAD BUDGET AND WE HAD THREE OR FOUR GUEST SPEAKERS.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW WE MOVE THE MEETING. YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.

YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL MADE AND WE WILL ADDRESS IT WITH THE VOTE.

THAT'S HOW WE ARE GOING TO IT. WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT AND THEN AND THEN WE NEED TO DO A VOTE.

YOU WON'T ALLOW ME TO DISCUSS IT, FINE, BUT I'M HAVING TROUBLE APPRECIATING HOW THIS IS EVEN PRIMARILY RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOW THAT, THAT WE CAN DISCUSS. THAT, WE CAN BECAUSE THIS IS IMPACTING YOUR VOTE.

YEAH, BUT THE POINT IS THE POINT IS, IF I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S RELATED, IT'S NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME.

THAT'S MY POINT. CORRECT. YES. THAT'S WHAT THE VOTE DOES.

WE DON'T HAVE COMMISSIONER GAUL. MOTION TO HAVE THE UPDATE TO THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, 5-1.200 TO BE ON THE APRIL AGENDA HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ROLL CALL VOTE. WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. GOOD IDEA.

I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

YES. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. YES. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

YES. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM. NO. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

NO. COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL. YES.

THE MOTION CARRIES. ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THIS LIST, COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. NO. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

WITH REGARD TO THE SPEED RACERS AND THE JUVENILES.

WE WERE SAYING EARLIER THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE JOE HOFFMAN COME IN.

HE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT AND SOME OF THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE. PLUS ALSO ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL CONSULTATIONS THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVING OFFICERS WHO ARE UNDER EXTREME STRESS, PTSD, AND EVERYTHING. THAT COULD ALL BE DOVETAIL TOGETHER.

I AGREE. WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS, WE'LL TAKE OUR LEAD FROM CHIEF HOFFMAN, WHATEVER MONTH HE SAYS, THEN THE STREET RACING WE'LL ADD THAT TO THAT MEETING AS WELL.

I'LL WRITE THAT ON THIS LIST. ANYTHING EITHER ON THIS LIST OR OUTSIDE OF THIS LIST THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER AND

[02:30:02]

THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE, EITHER IN PERSON.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? YEAH. WERE YOU HERE? I WATCHED IT. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LETTER.

I'M READY FOR WHENEVER HE COMES BACK. THE LETTER IS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK ON APRIL.

HOWEVER, I THINK I LIKE THAT. MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE CITY ENGINEER. TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. IT'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING] TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO GIVE US, EITHER IN WRITING OR IN PERSON, A FOLLOW UP TO THE PROSPECT AND PV. I CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE BIKE LANES ARE COMING IN ALREADY.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO I3? NO, THIS IS A NEW. SHE'S BRINGING UP A NEW BECAUSE THIS IS MEMBER ITEMS. CAN YOU EXPAND THAT A LITTLE BIT? I THINK MR. KARL WRIGHT IS ALSO ON PV BOULEVARD, AND HIS CONCERN IS ON PV BOULEVARD.

YES, BUT HIS IS DIFFERENT. IF YOU WANT TO CREATE AN AGENDA ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

IT'S TRAFFIC SAFETY ON PV BOULEVARD. IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHAT RYAN CAME AND BROUGHT US WAS ABOUT PVB AND PROSPECT.

YES, YOU CAN CREATE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE GREATER, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, RYAN CAME AND SAID, WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE AND HERE'S THE THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MITIGATE ON THAT CORRIDOR.

WE WANT TO CLOSE THAT OUT. WHAT DID YOU DO? WHAT DID YOU COME UP WITH? IT'S TWO DIFFERENT AGENDA TOPICS. I HEAR YOU.

YOU CAN EXPAND IT TO BE THE PEOPLE. YOU CAN. IT'S YOUR MOTION.

I'M JUST THINKING. IF IT'S STATED THAT WAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE RYAN FROM TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC CALMING. NO. TRAFFIC. SAFETY. TRAFFIC COMING.

TRAFFIC COMING. FOR THAT AREA, THE PV FROM PROSPECT ON DOWN TO PCH, THE WHOLE AREA.

BECAUSE THERE'S THE SCHOOLS NEARBY AND KIDS ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE STREETS AND ALL. I'M DOWN.

MOTION TO HAVE RYAN LU, OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WE GENERALLY REFER TO THAT AS A MORE OR TRAFFIC CORRIDOR.

MY CONCERN WITH WHAT HAS OCCURRED THAT WHEN YOU BIFURCATE ISSUES, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, HIS ISSUE.

THE TRUCK ISSUE. BASICALLY, WHAT THAT IS A HOT POTATO THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH US.

WELL, LET'S DO THIS. [OVERLAPPING] MY CONFUSION IS I FEEL WE'RE ON I_3, TOPIC-WISE.

GO AHEAD WITH THAT REFERENCE TO COURT. [OVERLAPPING] SPEAK ON I_3 OR.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. I WAS BREAKING UP TO UP. YES.

NO. I AGREE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE LEFT US. I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I CAN JUST INVITE HIM TO COME. TO TALK ON I_3, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD IN THE ASK.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, IT WAS TOO SEPARATE. THEN TO HAVE THIS ISSUE, BE PROMINENT AS ITS OWN.

I THINK IT'S GREAT. THEY WENT ALL IN WHEN WE WERE SPECIFIC.

I DON'T WANT TO ASK THE A BIFURCATE LIKE THEY GET WHEN WE PUT TOO MUCH IN, WE GET A LOT OF PARTICIPATION BECAUSE THAT DAY CHIEF HOFFMAN SPOKE TO THEM AT 2 O'CLOCK AND THEN THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO US AT 7 O'CLOCK.

THEN TWO DAYS LATER, THEY SPOKE TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

THEY WERE ON IT WHEN WE WERE LIKE, THIS IS THE IF YOU CAN.

THE SAME THING WHEN WE ASKED OFFICER COMMISSIONER WODNICKI WAS LIKE, I WANT ABOUT THIS STREET.

THEN HE WAS LIKE, IF YOU COULD NARROW AND BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025, BOOM HE WAS ABLE TO DO IT.

WE FOUND THAT WE GET MORE TRACTION BY NARROWING THE SCOPE AND BEING VERY TARGETED.

I'M NEW HERE SO I'M GOOD. [OVERLAPPING] PROFESSIONALLY SPECULATE.

I WOULD PUT THAT ISSUE UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT.

SIMPLY LIKE HE SAID, IT'S LIKE A CORRIDOR. SO THE RELEVANCE OF THE PROBLEM IS ALONG THAT SAME STREET AND PART OF THE ISSUE AS A WHOLE THAT WE WOULD BE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH THE PROBLEM UP THE HILL AND NOW FIVE MONTHS LATER, HE'S GOING TO BE BACK.

[02:35:06]

YOU'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. ARE WE? MY ONLY CONFUSION IS YOU HAVE I_3 UP, WHICH IS THE PV PROSPECT TRUCK ROUTE STUFF, WHICH IS MORE RYAN'S WHEELHOUSE AS FAR AS ENGINEERING.

WOULD YOU WANT ME TO JUST INVITE HIM TO COME SPEAK ON THAT IF HE'S AVAILABLE? YES. THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ITEM. CORRECT.

NOW WE FIGURED OUT WHERE IT GOES, BUT SHE STILL [OVERLAPPING] ABLE TO BRING IT OUT FOR YOU.

THERE YOU GO. CAN WE ENSURE THAT HE GETS A COPY OF THE POLICE STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

[OVERLAPPING] HE ALREADY SAID THAT THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THEM. THAT'S NOT NOT GOING TO HELP. HE SAID IT'S NOT RELEVANT? HE SAID IT WHEN HE WAS SITTING RIGHT THERE? NO. I THINK HE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T GET IT. HE SAID HE GOT IT.

HE SAID IT WASN'T RELEVANT. [OVERLAPPING] ALL OF IT TOGETHER WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THE CHIEF DID FOR ALL THOSE RESIDENTS? IF THAT'S RELEVANT AT ALL. OF THAT RYAN WAS THERE.

BECAUSE YOU ASKED VERY POINTEDLY THAT NIGHT AND HE SAID IT'S IMMATERIAL TO HOW THEY WATCHED THE VIDEO.

HE ANSWERED YOU CHAPTER AND VERSE ON THAT STUDY.

LOOK AT A POINT OF THAT AGAIN, ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION REQUIRES ALL FACTS? HE'S NOT INVESTIGATOR. YES, HE IS. YOU ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY, AND HE GAVE YOU CHAPTER AND VERSE.

HE'S NOT AN INVESTIGATOR. YOU WERE A BIT CONDESCENDING, BUT YOU ASKED HIM FLAT OUT, YOU'RE AN ANALYST, AREN'T YOU? HE SAID, NO. I'M AN ENGINEER. YOU'RE LIKE, AS AN ANALYST.

AS A PART OF ANALYSIS, YOU SHOULD AND HE GAVE YOU CHAPTER AND VERSE WHY THAT STUDY, NOT MATERIAL TO HIS HIS WORK.

WATCH THE VIDEO. I'LL SEND IT TO YOU. I'LL SENT TO YOU VACA. YES, INVITE RYAN TO CLOSE OUT I_3.

IS THAT ALONG WITH YOUR REQUEST WISE, WOULD YOU SAY? YEAH, THE TRUCK ROUTE IS A HUGE ISSUE, OF COURSE, BUT THE SAFETY ON THE PV ROUTE, THE CORRIDOR ITSELF IS A MAJOR CONCERN BECAUSE OF CHILDREN AND CROSSING THE HIGH SCHOOL AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN STRUCK AND INJURED.

AS YOUR LIAISON ONLY? WE'VE HAD WE HAD IT ON PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT AGENDAS.

MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS ON THE ISSUE. I THINK IT WOULD BE OTHER THAN WHAT'S PRESENTED IN I_3, WHICH IS POTENTIALLY SOME ADVISORY ACTION RELATED TO THE TRUCK ROUTE ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT TO REVISIT JUST THE TOPIC OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY.

AND THERE IS MATERIAL FROM THAT MEETING? FROM THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM, ETC.

THEY HAVE ALL THAT MATERIAL. ALL THE PERSONS INVOLVED THE RESIDENTS RATHER, I SHOULD SAY.

WE TELL ABOUT THE DASHBOARD. [OVERLAPPING] THEN NOW WE HAVE WE WE UPLOADED THE CITATION DASHBOARD ON THE WEBSITE.

THAT WAS THE E MAIL I SENT YOU. TICKET WISE. WELL, I KNOW LAST TIME I WAS OVER THERE BECAUSE DANNY AND I HAD A MEETING WITH JOHN PERSHEL AND AND HIS FRIEND TONY AND THAT THEY WERE ON PV AND HALBERTA, AND THE TRUCKS CARS WAS GOING. THERE WAS A MOTOR OFFICER RIGHT ON HALBERTA, AND OCCASIONALLY HE WOULD DRIVE OUT SOMEWHERE, COME BACK AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS RUNNING OUT AFTER SOMEONE SIGHTING THE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONLY ONE OFFICER. I HAVE MORE THAN ONE BUT HE WAS JUST HE WAS SITTING THERE HOVERING JUST WAITING. YES. THAT'S THAT'S HOW THE OPERATION GOES.

HE WAS A LITTLE FURTHER BACK FROM THE CORNER TOO. HE WASN'T REAL VISIBLE TO TRAFFIC.

[OVERLAPPING] ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? CHRISTIAN SKIBA? NO. CHRISTIAN AMA? I HAVE TWO.

THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY ELECTED JOY FORD, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND HER OFFICE STILL DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION.

CAN WE MAKE A REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ASSISTANCE SO THEY CAN SUPPORT US, LIKE THEY USED TO BEFORE.

I'VE BEEN HERE LIKE SIX YEARS IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS I WAS HERE.

THEY WERE HERE AT EVERY MEETING. YES WE WILL MAKE THE REQUEST.

NUMBER 1. THAT ACTION HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN.

IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND ACTION REGARDING ADVISING THE CITY COUNCIL.

MAKING THE ADVISEMENT FOR THEM TO MAKE A DIRECTION.

[02:40:02]

AS YOUR LIAISON, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'LL WRITE A LETTER AND PRESENT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU DO. FIRST, YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? TO TAKE ADVISORY ACTION IN THE FORM OF A LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL ASKING THEM TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ATTEND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST SAY REPEAT? SO MOVED. HOW THEY DO IT.

I SECOND IT. THAT'S HOW I WOULD SAY. THERE IS A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WHAT YOU WOULD DO SEND IT TO.

HE'LL SEND IT TO US. WE'LL GIVE YOU OUR FEEDBACK.

IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR APRIL. I'LL DO IT.

THANK YOU. APPROVE IT IN MEETING AND WE APPROVE IT.

I HAVE TWO. [OVERLAPPING] I JUST WANT TO CLOSE THIS ONE DOWN.

I KNOW YOU'RE LIKE APRIL'S MEETING IS GETTING FILLED OUT.

NO. THE OTHER TOPIC I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS BRING UP TO PUT IT ON HERE ON FUTURE CALENDAR.

DISCUSSION IS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC TO PREVENT CRIME.

WE DON'T JUST EXPECT THE POLICE TO HELP US. WE HAVE TO HELP OURSELVES TO PREVENT CRIME.

SOMETIMES THE CITIZENS THEMSELVES UNKNOWINGLY CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CRIME, AND YOUR BEHAVIOR HAS AN EFFECT ON THE CRIME ON YOUR PERSON AND YOUR PROPERTY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH A PROGRAM, MAYBE WITH THE HELP OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE SOME CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC SO THEY PREVENT CRIME.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LEAVE YOUR VALUABLES IN YOUR CAR WITH THE WINDOWS OPEN, AND THE DOORS OPEN, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY AND STEAL YOUR STUFF.

MAYBE A LOT OF CRIME OCCURS LIKE THAT. IT JUST DUMB THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC ISN'T AWARE OF OR ISN'T WELL EDUCATED, AND THAT COULD PREVENT A LOT OF THE CRIME WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

WOULD YOU SAY YOUR MOTION IS FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM.

DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR CRIME PREVENTION? YEAH. SERVED SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. WHERE DO YOU WANT YOUR DISCUSSION REGARDING JUVENILE DELINQUENCY? DO YOU WANT US TO PUT THAT IN MAY? WELL, LET'S HAVE THAT ONE SINCE IT'S OLD AND IT'S BEEN THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

LET'S PUT THAT IN MAY. OH, I'M SORRY. MOTION TO YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION REGARDING JUVENILE DELINQUENCY ON OUR MAY AGENDA. I'LL SECOND. WHO SAID THAT? CLARE. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WAS THAT COMMISSIONER KLEINBAM, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND INTO MORE SPECIFIC BULLET POINTS OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT SO THAT WHEN YOU WERE ABLE TO WHEN YOU WERE ABLE TO PRESENT IT, THEN WE CAN BE MORE FOCUSED THAT WAY, IF ANY AREAS THAT NEED TO BE, OR SOMEBODY COMING IN TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY AS OPPOSED TO JUVENILE DELINQUENCY. COULD MEAN ANYTHING ALMOST ANY WHICH WAY.

I JUST WANT TO MORE FOCUS THAT WAY, YOU'RE NOT FRUSTRATED AT THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT GOING IN A DIRECTION OR THAT IT GETS DRAGGED OUT FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, MAYBE TARGETING TO AGE GROUPS AS WELL AS TO WHAT PARTICULAR CRIMES THAT YOU'RE POSSIBLY LOOKING AT OR LOOKING AT WHAT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, EITHER AS A DIVERSION OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, TAKING CONSIDERATION YOUTH COURT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS USED IN INGLEWOOD BEFORE YOU DO THAT OR WHEN YOU DO THAT. THAT'S NOT FOR KYLE.

[OVERLAPPING] IT'S ALREADY APPROVED. WE'RE ON THE LIST.

BUT THEN THE VOTE IS TO MOVE IT UP TO MAY. AS YOUR LIAISON, I WOULD MAYBE IN ORDER TO NARROW THE TOPIC. IF YOU WANT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

IT'S BEEN APPROVED AS IS, BUT IF YOU WANTED, YOU COULD PROVIDE MATERIAL OR JUST HAVE YOUR OWN LIST OF SPECIFIC THINGS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I COULD WRITE SOMETHING UP JUST BE FOR [OVERLAPPING].

I SUPPOSE. I'M SORRY, I INTERRUPT YOU. I WOULD WRITE SOMETHING UP ONE WAY WOULD BE TO WRITE IT UP AND FORWARD IT TO YOU OR [OVERLAPPING].

[02:45:03]

I CAN DO THAT. BEFORE APRIL 14TH. THAT'S BUSY WEEK.

NO, HE'S MAY, SO PLEASE GIVE ME A DIFFERENT DATE.

MAY. SORRY. [OVERLAPPING] BY MAY LIKE MAY 12.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S DISCUSSION WITH ON THE MAY BEFORE WE GO TO VOTE FOR THE MAY MEETING.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED. SO MOVED TO JUVENILE DELINQUENCY FOR MAY.

PRETTY GOOD. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I DO THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE STREET RACING ALSO TO MAY. IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY ESCALATED IN THE SUMMER.

WELL, COMMISSIONER AS SOON AS HE GETS A GOOD, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN.

NOW, IF YOU WANT IT AHEAD OF HIM, THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN MAY, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

I JUST WANT TO POSIT THAT WITH YOU. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S FINE.

AT THE SAME NIGHT. I'M GOOD FOREVER HE COMES UP WITH.

THEN BOOM, WE'RE GOING TO POP IT IN THERE IN APRIL.

I'M GOOD. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE APRIL. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.

IT'S FINE. NO I'M GOOD. ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS OR ANY [OVERLAPPING].

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITNEY. NO, MY ITEMS ARE SMOKE SHOPS AND CANNABIS, BUT I WAS THINKING WE COULD SET IT FOR SUMMER, BUT THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT DURING THE SUMMER.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE DISCUSSION TOPICS THAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT WITH THE ISSUING OF LICENSES SOON, THAT MIGHT BE A HOT TOPIC THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS.

EXACTLY OR AT LEAST GET IN FRONT OF. WE COULD PUT IT FOR MAY.

I WOULD SAY JUNE. JUNE. [OVERLAPPING] TO SET THE DISCUSSION REGARDING CANNABIS AND SMOKE SHOPS SINCE THEY'RE RELATED FOR JUNE MEETING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSE? I DIDN'T SAY AYE. AYE. I'M SORRY.

YOU WERE FOUR. I'M FOUR YEAH. DON'T MESS WITH ME, ALEX.

I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW ITEMS, BUT I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE FROM LILA OMURA.

WHENEVER SHE CAN MAKE IT. I'LL REACH OUT. BE APRIL, MAY, LIKE, I'M GOING TO MOTION THAT.

WE APPROVE LILA OMURA COMING BEFORE US AT A DATE SHE CHOOSES.

I HAVE THAT ON THE LIST. WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT MONTH.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE APPROVING WHATEVER MONTHS SHE PUTS IN SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? YES. ONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

RECOGNIZING THAT COMMISSIONER KYLE IS NOT HERE.

ANY OTHER ITEMS, AGENDA TOPICS? FANTASTIC. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY, OFFICER DID YOU ASK ME SOMETHING? I JUST SAID LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY. NO, YOU'RE OKAY.

MOTION TO ADJOURN IN COMMEMORATION OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH AND CESAR CHAVEZ DAY.

SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THAT ENDS, WOW.

PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, MARCH 17TH, 2025, 9:50 PM.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.