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MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE. OH, YOU NEED A ROLL CALL?
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
YES, PLEASE.THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM C EVERYONE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE SALUTE OF THE FLAG.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM D,
[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
APPROVING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA SUBJECT TO WHEN THE CITY MANAGER COMES, WE'LL FINISH OUT WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING ON.HE'S RIGHT HERE. OH, HE'S RIGHT HERE. THEN WE'LL MOVE THAT TO RIGHT AFTER THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SORRY. ARE YOU JUST SO FOR FORMALITY PURPOSES, ARE YOU PROPOSING TO MOVE ITEM L1 FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NO, I'M PROPOSING IT. IF YOU WANT IT AFTER THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
I'M OPEN TO THAT AMENDMENT. I WAS MOVED AFTER THE BLUE FOLDER.
SO CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION? WHAT? DO YOU WANT TO DO? IT AFTER THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM, YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU KNOW WHAT.
LET'S PUT IT AFTER THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY.
OKAY. AYE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MOVE? ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? NO. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM E, BLUE FOLDER ITEMS.
[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIALS. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? YES. SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION.JUST SO THE AUDIENCE IS CLEAR ON THAT. SURE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THIS EVENING.
CORRECT. YES, AND WE HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL PRINTED ITEMS THAT WERE HANDED OUT, AND THOSE ARE FOR ITEMS, I BELIEVE. J TWO AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ITEM, L3.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT
[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
CALENDAR. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO PULL ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NO. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? ITEMS? MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY.ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. WE HAVE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. MOVING ON TO ITEM L ONE, WHICH WE MOVED UP. MR.
[L.1. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 25-26 BUDGET INPUT TO THE CITY MANAGER]
CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.PLEASURE TO BE HERE. MIKE WITZANSKY, CITY MANAGER.
I AM ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE WHAT I CALL THE SORT OF COMMISSION CIRCUIT AS WE EMBARK ON OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PREPARATION PROCESS. THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHERE I COME TO YOU AND SEEK INPUT FROM YOU AND ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT OUR PROCESS OR ANY OF OUR OPERATIONS, AND REALLY, I'M HERE TO LISTEN AND HAVE THAT INPUT BE PART OF OUR INTERNAL DELIBERATION WHEN WE ULTIMATELY PROPOSE THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW AND FINAL CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL, THE CHARTER REQUIRES ME TO DELIVER THAT BUDGET EACH YEAR BY MAY 16TH.
WE ARE BEGINNING AND HAVE BEGUN THAT PROCESS.
INTERNALLY, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ANALYZING THEIR VARIOUS REVENUES AND EXPENSES YEAR OVER YEAR, AND CONSIDERING DIFFERENT GAPS IN SERVICE THAT THEY FEEL WE SHOULD CONSIDER CLOSING AS WE GO FORWARD.
THEY'RE PRESENTING THAT MATERIAL THROUGH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND HER TEAM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WE WILL MEET TO DETERMINE WHAT WE PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE JUNE DELIBERATIONS.
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AND PRIORITIZE RESOURCES NEXT FISCAL YEAR? AND I'M ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR FISCAL CONDITION.GOING FORWARD, I WILL TELL YOU, ON A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL WE HOPE TO BE STRUCTURALLY BALANCED NEXT FISCAL YEAR FROM AN ONGOING OPERATING REVENUE STANDPOINT VERSUS ONGOING OPERATING EXPENDITURE STANDPOINT.
WE DO HAVE SOME EXPENDITURE PRESSURES, SOME HEADWINDS.
I WOULD CALL THEM ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE DESCRIBE AS UNFUNDED ACCRUED LIABILITY PAYMENTS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO OUR LONG TERM PENSION COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER $4 MILLION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR TRADITIONAL STRUCTURAL SPENDING.
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A BIT OF A SHORTFALL IN OUR HARBOR, UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS OPERATIONS DUE TO THE SORT OF SLOW RECOVERY POST-COVID AND WHAT I WOULD CALL VERY ACCELERATED AND AGGRESSIVE AND LONG OVERDUE CAPITAL SPENDING IN THE WATERFRONT AREA, WHICH IS BEGINNING TO PAY DIVIDENDS FOR US ON AN OPERATING BASIS, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING INCREASED PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE AREA THAT WILL ULTIMATELY ACCRUE IN THE FORM OF ANNUAL LEASE REVENUE AND GENERAL FUND TAXES.
SO THE GENERAL FUND WILL LIKELY NEED TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE CRITICAL, AS ARE OUR SORT OF ACCLIMATION AND ASSIMILATION OF OUR YEAR OVER YEAR LABOR AGREEMENT ADJUSTMENTS. SO WE HAVE MULTIYEAR AGREEMENTS WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS.
EACH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS CALL FOR INCREASES IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO PAY AND BENEFITS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THOSE ARE THE SORT OF BIG BUCKETS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ON THE REVENUE FRONT.
SO IDEALLY WE'LL SEE SOME ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL REVENUE COME ONLINE.
AS A RESULT OF THAT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. WE CONTINUE TO SEE REALLY HIGH LEVEL PERFORMANCE IN RIVIERA VILLAGE, PARTICULARLY IN OUR RESTAURANT SCENE DOWN THERE.
SO WE'LL SEE INCREASED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IN 25-26 AS COMPARED TO 24-25, AND IN OUR LONGER TERM, HORIZON CONTINUES TO SHOW GROWTH EVEN IN THE OUT YEARS BEYOND THAT NUMBER.
NOW THERE'S A LOT OF NATIONAL UNCERTAINTY. IT'S UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHEN THE SORT OF FEDERAL ISSUES WILL MATRICULATE INTO MORE LOCAL CONCERN. HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T ISN'T THE CASE, BUT THERE IS SOME CONCERN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE THREE YEAR HORIZON, THAT WE NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT JUDICIOUS AND AUSTERE IN SPENDING TO PREPARE FOR PERHAPS SOME ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY THERE IF THINGS GO SOUTH ON US FROM A BROADER ECONOMY STANDPOINT.
WE'LL OBVIOUSLY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF FACILITIES. WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING ON POINT WITH OUR CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, CLOSING SPECIFIC GAPS IN SERVICE AS NEEDED BUT WE WILL BE VERY CAUTIOUS, AND WE'LL LOOK TO SORT OF ABSORB THESE BIGGER EXPENSES AND MAINTAIN WHAT I WOULD CALL A SOMEWHAT BUSINESS AS USUAL BUDGET, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND REALLY, LIKE I SAID, HERE TO LISTEN ANYTHING YOU'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER.
YOU COVER QUITE THE GAMUT OF RESPONSIBILITY HERE WITH THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.
WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK, AND HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SUGGEST FOR US.
YEAH, AS A GROUP. SO I WAS GOING TO RESPOND BACK TO THE EMAIL I SENT AND SAID MAYBE I WAS, YOU KNOW, SENT THAT TOO QUICKLY, BUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
DID YOU WANT US AS A COMMISSION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN FORMALIZE A LETTER? IS THAT HOW IT USUALLY YOU CAN DO IT BOTH WAYS.
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IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME AS A GROUP TO BE MORE FORMAL IN WHAT YOU DISTRIBUTE FOR US TO CONSIDER, THAT'S GREAT. I WILL SAY THE EARLIER I RECEIVED THAT INPUT, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THEN I CAN BEGIN TO PLAN FOR IT, SEE IF THERE ARE ITEMS I CAN ABSORB INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.IF ON THE FLIP SIDE, YOU WILL ALL HAVE THE CHANCE ONCE THE BUDGET IS DELIVERED TO THE COUNCIL TO ALSO WEIGH IN AS A GROUP TO SAY, HEY, GREAT, WE LIKED WHAT THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSED HERE.
WE REALLY DISLIKE THIS OR WE WISH YOU WOULD HAVE ALSO INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING.
YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE AS WELL, SO THIS ISN'T YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO PROVIDE INPUT.
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, I THINK, DIRECTLY PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO ME, SO I CAN THEN THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE COMPARE AND CONTRAST IT TO ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONS' REQUESTS AND OF COURSE, OUR OPERATING DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO SHARE WHAT I SENT YOU? PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT. I MEAN, IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD LIST, SO I ACTUALLY PRINTED OUT A COPY TO BRING, AND I FORGOT IT IN THE PRINTER. SO THE FIRST THING ON MY LIST WAS THE SNACK SHACK BATHROOMS AT ALTA VISTA PARK.
I'VE RECENTLY STARTED SPENDING A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF TIME THERE, AND NOTICED THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE BATHROOM GETS CLEANED, THERE'S SOME SORT OF PROBLEM WITH PROBABLY THE PLUMBING AND JUST THE WAY THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED, THERE'S THE BATHROOMS ARE NOT REALLY KIND OF UTILIZED VERY WELL, AND SO THAT WAS NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST. THEN I WAS WONDERING. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS USUALLY WHAT YOU INCLUDE, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT SOME MONEY COULD POSSIBLY BE PUT TOWARDS A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR SPORTS COURTS UNDER THE POWER LINES. I KNOW THOSE POWER LINES ARE COMING DOWN AND I JUST YEAH.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING. WELL, ONE THOUGHT ON THAT JUST WHILE YOU'RE TOUCHING ON IT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A GREAT USE OF THAT SPACE. WOULD LOVE TO.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONVINCE THEM TO ALLOW US TO DO SOME PLANTING, SOME KIND OF LOW RISE PLANTING.
OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT OUR PROJECT THAT'S ON THE HORIZON THERE FOR THE PCH PARCEL, THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL THERE WHERE WE'VE GOT FUNDING TO PLANT THE KIND OF UPPER HALF OF THAT WITH KIND OF A MIX OF NATIVE PLANTS. WATER WISE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAN? SO IT TOOK US A LOT TO GET THEM TO SAY YES TO THAT.
IT TOOK US A LOT TO GET THEM TO SAY YES TO EXTENDING OUR BIKE PATH ON THE NORTH PART OF TOWN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT OUT TO BID THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROJECT EXECUTED HERE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. I DON'T THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY SKITTISH ABOUT ACTIVE PLAY SPACE UNDERNEATH THE POWER LINES WHILE THEY'RE UP.
IF THE TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR COMES DOWN, MAYBE THE FLOODGATES OPEN.
SO YEAH, I DIDN'T THAT WAS FOR WHEN THE LINES COME DOWN.
YEAH. I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE AND READY, BUT YEAH, THAT WAS ON MY LIST, AND I WOULD SAY THE LINES AREN'T IMMINENTLY COMING DOWN.
I HAVE HEARD THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE COMMUNITY OF LATE, THAT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THAT.
OKAY. SO WE ALSO WANT TO COMMUNITY GARDEN IN NORTHERN OR NORTH REDONDO.
SO I'VE LOOKED AT THE MAPS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPER LIMITED ON WHERE THEY CAN GO.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY PLAY SPACE FROM ANYBODY.
SO THAT WAS ON MY LIST AND THEN EXPLORE IF WE CAN MAYBE PUT IT UNDER THE LINES, WHICH I KNOW WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT WE DID WE ACTUALLY DID DO THAT A FEW YEARS BACK, AND THEY WEREN'T TOO THRILLED ABOUT IT AT THE TIME BECAUSE DALE PAGE IS UNDER THE LINE.
DALE PAGE IS AN OLD WE HAVE AN OLD LEASE STRUCTURE THERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER THAT SPACE. ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS, THE BIKE PATH, THE NEW AREA IS UNDER A FIVE YEAR LICENSE AND THEY HAVE VERY RIGID TERMS. OKAY. SO DALE PAGE PARK KIND OF SNUCK UNDER THEIR LAND USE RADAR BACK IN THE DAY, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE FULL SITE CONTROL THERE.
THERE'S A REALLY THERE'S A LONG WAIT LIST FOR THE SOUTH REDONDO ONE.
IT'S NOT THE MOST CENTRAL NORTHERN AREA, BUT THERE AREN'T A TON OF OPTIONS.
WE DID GO THROUGH AN EXERCISE TO YOU DID OKAY A FEW YEARS BACK.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? OH, SURE. THERE'S A PATH THAT USED TO BE FREEMAN AVENUE THAT GOES DIAGONALLY INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY REAL EGRESS OR ACCESS TO. YEAH, AND YOU COULD TURN THAT INTO UNDEDICATED AND TURN THAT AREA INTO A GARDEN
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AREA. INTERESTING, AND THEN POSSIBLY PUT ALTA VISTA PLAYGROUND ON THE LIST.I KNOW NOT VINCENT FRANKLIN PARK IS IS GOING TO BE REDONE.
WE STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT, BUT SO YOU SUGGESTED ALTA VISTA.
YEAH. IT PROBABLY THAT, LIKE, SURFACE PROBABLY NEEDS TO GET SOME ATTENTION SOON, AND OF COURSE, ALLOCATE MORE MONEY TO GET MORE TREES IN THE GROUND.
THAT WAS ON MY LIST, AND I HAD ONE MORE, BUT I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT'S ON THAT LIST I SENT YOU, SO. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. I'VE GOT IT. OKAY. YEAH.
AT ONE POINT THE COUNCILMEN IN DISTRICT FIVE WAS LOOKING AT FOR PICKLEBALL ALONG AVIATION.
THAT STRIP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK, RIGHT BETWEEN THE.
YEAH. SO IF IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR PICKLEBALL, WHICH WE DECIDED IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR THE PICKLEBALL, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDEN BECAUSE THERE IS WATER.
THERE'S PARKING AT AVIATION PARK. YES. YEAH. ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE OF THE TRACK THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACK. YEAH, I KNOW THE AREA YOU ARE REFERRING TO. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, AND SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALTA VISTA.
PICKLEBALL, YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT A THERE'S A THERE'S A STUDY THAT AN RFP NEEDS TO GO OUT TO A VENDOR. WE'VE SELECTED THE VENDOR. OH. YOU HAVE.
OKAY, WE'RE PREPARED TO. WE'RE BRINGING THAT CONTRACT FORWARD TO COUNCIL HERE PRETTY SOON. I THINK NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE IT, AND THEN THEY'LL ULTIMATELY CONDUCT THE STUDY THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT. OKAY. CAN YOU CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT PROCESS, THE, THE LENGTH OF THE PROCESS AND WHAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THEN CONVERTING THE COURTS.
THE I DON'T THINK THAT THE STUDY IS GOING TO TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD REQUESTED AT THE TIME, WHEN THE COUNCIL WAS CONSIDERING THIS, IS THAT THEY BE NOTIFIED OF WHEN THE STUDY WAS OCCURRING, SO THERE COULD BE TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PROCESS AND HOW ULTIMATELY THE NOISE WAS GENERATED TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE FOR LIKE.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS, THAT OUR VENDOR WILL BE ABLE TO RECREATE THE APPROPRIATE SORT OF SOUND KIND OF DECIBEL LEVELS, ET CETERA. I IMAGINE ONCE WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD SCHEDULE OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW DAYS, MAYBE A WEEK, I DON'T KNOW. I'M SURE TIME OF DAY IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.
PROBABLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE, YOU KNOW, SUNSHINE HOURS AND THEN SOMETHING MAYBE IN THE EVENING, AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO IT WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AMBIENT NOISE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PARK'S REALLY ACTIVE VERSUS WHEN IT'S REALLY QUIET IN THE MORNING. I MEAN, I THINK THEY WILL HAVE TO THINK THROUGH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT THEY'LL TEST AGAINST, AND THEN ONCE THAT DATA IS COLLECTED, I THINK WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER IT, AND THEN I THINK PART OF THE REASON FOR THE TEST WAS TO HELP DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOUND ATTENUATION WOULD BE HELPFUL ON THE PROPERTY.
IF WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL THAT ALONG THE FENCING AS A MEANS TO TRY TO CORRAL SOME OF THE NOISE, AND DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
SO WE HAVE FUNDING FOR IT. NOT JUST THE STUDY, BUT THE INSTALLATION, AND THE COUNCIL WAS, I THINK, PRETTY COMMITTED TO THAT PROJECT AT THE TIME. WE DO HAVE A NEW GROUP. ULTIMATELY, THERE WILL BE AN EVALUATION OF THE MATERIAL BY THE NEW COUNCIL.
SO YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THOSE RESULTS BACK TO THEM SO THEY CAN SYNTHESIZE THEM A BIT, BUT I SEE MOST OF THAT OCCURRING, I THINK, THIS SUMMER AND THEN WITH A WITH A DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT FOLLOWING THAT DISCUSSION, AND , YOU KNOW, OUR EXPERIENCE IS THE COURT RESURFACING, AND THE SOUND ATTENUATION SHOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TIME FOR US TO GET ORGANIZED.
SO IT COULD BE AS WE COULD HAVE COURTS IN PLACE IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO EXPECTATIONS AS EARLY AS THE LATTER PART OF THE SUMMER. YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER ISH, BUT I THAT'S A REAL SPECULATIVE TIMELINE.
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POINT WITH THAT PROJECT. SO WE'LL HAVE MORE OF A TIMELINE, I THINK, ONCE WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT. YOU HAVE THAT, AND WILL THIS BODY KNOW WHEN THE SOUND STUDY IS TAKING PLACE SO THAT WE CAN I'M SURE WE CAN.I IMAGINE DANA AND KELLY AND TEAM CAN INFORM YOU OF THE PROGRESS ONCE WE GET MOVING.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY BE THERE WHEN IT'S BEING CONDUCTED, IF THAT'S OKAY.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS THE IDEA.
EVERYBODY'S WELCOME. OKAY, GREAT. WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THE STUDY KIND OF A THINK.
THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE A COUPLE REALLY QUICK CURSORY QUESTIONS.
I'LL TRY NOT TO GET TOO OFF TOPIC WITH SOME OF THESE, BUT JUST REALLY QUICK.
WE'RE THE LAST COMPONENT OF THE ACT FOR THAT'S REQUIRED IS THE MOST RECENT GASB IMPLEMENTATION.
OUR OUTSIDE VENDOR, I THINK FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM STEPHANIE, IS VERY CLOSE.
I THINK WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT WRAPPED UP IN MAY, BUT IT'S NOT FINAL.
FINAL YET, AND IS THE CITY SUBJECT TO SINGLE AUDIT AS WELL? WE'RE PERFORMING THE SINGLE AUDIT RIGHT NOW, TOO. THAT'S HAPPENING IN PARALLEL.
OKAY. THE REASON I ASK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO QUICKLY UNDERSTAND IF THE CITY HAD ANY DEPENDENCY ON GRANTS FOR ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN WHICH THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAS PURVIEW WITH AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONCLUSION OF ARPA, YOU KNOW, 2026, LIKE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY DEFICITS OR DEFICIENCIES WITH STAFFING, PROGRAM SERVICES THAT ARE BEING RENDERED. SO I JUST HAD SOME QUICK QUESTIONS WITHOUT GETTING TOO SPECIFIC, BECAUSE I CAN SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT. NO, THOSE ARE GREAT, GREAT, GREAT QUESTIONS, AND A VERY GOOD THOUGHT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING GRANTS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION, BUT WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SPENDING THOSE GRANTS, AND ASSUMING THOSE GRANTS ARE OF A ONE TIME NATURE.
SO WE TEND TO SPEND THEM ON GOODS OR PROJECTS.
YEAH, THERE'S NO THAT'S COME AND GONE THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE PAST FEW BUDGET YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT INDEXED TO GRANTS THAT ARE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
I WILL GIVE YOU TWO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. WELL, THREE POTENTIALLY.
WE ARE VERY CAREFULLY MONITORING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THINGS LIKE CDBG MONIES, FTA, FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION ADMINISTRATION MONIES, FTA MONIES, AND THEN WHAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, HUD FOR OUR HOUSING PROGRAM.
CURRENT SPECULATION IS THAT 25-26 FISCAL YEAR IS OKAY.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO VENTURE BEYOND THAT. SO AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, BECAUSE IF, LET'S SAY THERE'S A DEFICIT OR THERE'S A SHORTFALL WITH HOW MUCH, HOW MANY GRANTS ARE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLOCATE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO STAFF THAT RIGHT, OR CUT SERVICE OR CUT SERVICE.
SO IT'S YOUR CHOICE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED JUST IN A VERY 30,000 FOOT LEVEL WAS YOU GOT SOME ACCRUED LIABILITIES THAT YOU GOT TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEN PENSION OPEB COSTS, RIGHT.
OKAY. SO JUST IN A VERY CURSORY WAY, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY PROPOSALS TO CUT SERVICES TO ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE PURVIEW OVER OR STAFFING SHORTFALLS? JUST AGAIN? YEAH, I KNOW THAT GETS VERY LOADED VERY QUICKLY, BUT JUST IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THE SHORT ANSWER, AS I SEE IT TODAY AND BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME THUS FAR.
NO, AND I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT. OKAY. HOWEVER, I'LL CAVEAT IT WITH DO I THINK THERE'S A SCENARIO WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO SPEND SOME OF OUR SET ASIDE MONIES THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY SET ASIDE FOR THIS KIND OF SMOOTHING PURPOSE, IN PARTICULAR FOR THE UAL PAYMENT THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO BALANCE MEANING, AM I CONFIDENT AT THIS POINT THAT STRUCTURAL REVENUE NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO COVER ALL EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING THE UAL THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED? I'M NOT I DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
I DO THINK WE MAY HAVE TO USE SOME ONE TIME FUNDS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE AND ABSORB THE, THE PENSION, PARTICULARLY THE UAL ANNUALIZED EXPENSE AGAINST ONGOING REVENUE.
SO I AND THAT'S BEEN WHY WE'VE SAID WE HAVE AN EIGHT WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UNDER $9 MILLION. THAT'S 8.33% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
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WE SET THAT ASIDE EVERY FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY BUILDING IN ADDITION TO THAT ACCOUNT, WHAT WE CALL THE PENSION OBLIGATION KIND OF SALARY AND BENEFITS.RESERVE THAT YOU THAT WE KIND OF USE AS A BIT OF A REVOLVING DOOR.
WE WERE ABLE TO ABSORB LAST YEAR'S UAL PAYMENT THROUGH SAVINGS.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AGAIN GOING INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO PULL A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OUT OF THAT RESERVE ACCOUNT, BUT IT ISN'T.
IT ISN'T ONE OF THOSE FIXED HARD RESERVE ACCOUNTS THAT HAS TO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC NEED TO TRIGGER.
IT'S REALLY THERE AS A BIT OF A SMOOTHING ACCOUNT FOR US.
SO SO DO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING CUTS? NO. DO I THINK WE MAY BE USING SOME ONE TIME FUNDS TO SMOOTH.
WE MIGHT MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, HOLD POSITIONS VACANT, ETC.
SO THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER ACTIONS DOWN THE ROAD DEPENDING ON HOW HOW THINGS GO, BUT THIS YEAR, SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO. OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.
YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. OKAY, SURE.
OKAY. SO FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING JACK UP TO THE CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER.
HE'S A WONDERFUL. YEAH, EXACTLY. YES. SECOND, IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE WORTHAM PROPERTY. THE FORMER WORTHAM PROPERTY, YOU MAY RECALL, WERE HE WAS THE MAYOR WHEN WE BECAME A CHARTER CITY, AND THE FIRST THING HE ENDED UP RESIGNING BECAUSE OF THE BIG DISPUTE OVER THE FIRST HIRED CITY MANAGER.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
I'VE BEEN TAKING THESE CLASSES ON PRESERVATION, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE BANKS NOW, BUT OUR HISTORICAL LANDMARK SURVEY IS SO OUT OF DATE.
THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE GUIDELINES ARE USUALLY FIVE YEARS.
OURS IS ABOUT A QUARTER OF A CENTURY. 1992, I THINK? 96, I THINK. 86. ANYWAY, I KNOW IT'S ON THE LIST IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IF YOU AND I KNOW YOU'VE SET ASIDE A TON OF MONEY FOR IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THAT GOING AGAIN BECAUSE WE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BE PROACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE COME INTO THAT SURVEY PERSPECTIVE, AND A LOT OF PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED DURING THAT TIME.
SO TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN PRIORITIZE AND GET THAT GOING.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE BIDS HAVE GONE OUT FOR THAT PROCESS AT THIS POINT, BUT THE MONEY SET ASIDE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AND I AND THERE'S A LOT ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S PLATE RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW MARK AND STAFF HAVE BEEN HOPEFUL TO GET TO THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE OTHER THAN SOME INITIAL PROPOSAL GATHERING, I DON'T THINK WE'VE ADVANCED THAT CONTRACT YET.
I MEAN, THE MUSEUM UNDER THE LIBRARY AND UTILIZE THE RESEARCH LIBRARIANS THAT YOU HAVE OVER THERE IN THE LIBRARY TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE KIND OF LIKE THE CURATORS OR DIRECTORS OF THAT, AND I THINK YOU'LL END UP SAVING MONEY.
YOU CAN EVEN TURN ONE OF THE POSITIONS INTO A FULL TIME OR WHERE THE NORMAL HOURS ARE OVER THERE FOR THAT, AND THE REST OF THE TIMES THAT THE LIBRARY ITSELF SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
INTERESTING. INTERESTING THOUGHT. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT. I DID WANT TO ALSO TALK SINCE LAST MONTH.
IF YOU READ OUR MINUTES, THERE WAS A WHOLE BIG ISSUE ABOUT WHAT YOU AS A CITY MANAGER EXPECT US TO DO WITH YOUR STAFF, AND THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE STAFF LIAISON.
SO WE HAD A PROPOSAL LAST MONTH TO WHERE I SET OUT.
THESE ARE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE STAFF WHO WILL MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS, AND IT WAS BASICALLY TURNED AROUND AND SAY, NO, NO, THE STAFF NEEDS TO DIRECT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND THE MATERIALS THAT I'VE SEEN, AND I CAME FROM A VERY PROACTIVE COMMISSION.
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SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN EXPAND WHAT WE. I LOOK AT THIS AS A RESIDENT SO I MY EXPECTATIONS ARE AS A RESIDENT I EXPECT CERTAIN LEVELS OF SERVICE, BUT AS A COMMISSION, WHAT IS YOUR GUIDANCE OR IN DEALING WITH STAFF PEOPLE WITH REGARDS TO DOING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AGENDIZED AND PASSED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, THE ITO OPEN SPACE AND I HAVE I HAVE MY LETTER FOR YOU, TOO. THE ITO OPEN SPACE, IT TOOK A WHILE. WE HAD TWO COMMISSIONS APPROVED THE NAMING, AND THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING IT.YOU ALLOCATED MONEY IN THIS BUDGET TO ACTUALLY PUT IT FORTH, AT LEAST ON THE SIGNAGE AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY UPDATES ON IT, AND UNLIKE OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION, I'VE SEEN THE SLOW WALK.
I'VE SEEN THINGS DROP OFF THE AGENDA. I USUALLY WILL TELL YOU WHEN I'M DOING IT.
SO I'M NOT LIKE SANDBAGGING YOU WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE FROM ME, BUT , YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE WOULD LIKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
IT ACTUALLY SAVES ON THE ON THE STAFFING. NOTHING'S HAPPENING WITH THAT.
AS FAR AS WHEN WE ASKED FOR STATUS REPORTS, THE ITO OPEN SPACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE YOU'VE STARTED THE DESIGN PROCESS OR IF YOU'VE APPROVED THE CONCEPT WITH REGARDS TO PUTTING THE MARKERS OUT THERE TO THAT COMMEMORATE WHAT HAPPENED DURING WORLD WAR TWO TO OUR RESIDENTS.
THE FABRICATION FOR THE PATH OF HISTORY. IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CITY DECISION.
ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS, AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE EXPECTING FROM YOUR STAFF AND THE LIAISONS AND WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS.
YEAH. SO THE COMMISSIONS AND MOST OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE THE SAME ROLE, RIGHT.
THEY'RE ADVISORY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW. AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF'S WORK IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY COUNCIL PRIORITIES, THE CITY BUDGET, THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
THERE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT COME FROM COMMISSIONS, COLLECTIVELY, THAT THE COUNCIL WILL ADOPT AND INCLUDE AS PRIORITY CAPITAL PROJECTS OR PRIORITY STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.
SEPARATE FROM THAT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATING WORK ITEMS THAT ARE DRIVEN BY MANAGEMENT, BY DEPARTMENT HEADS, BY MYSELF, ETC., THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE REGULAR KEEPING THE TRAINS ON TIME, MAKING SURE WE'RE EFFICIENT, MAKING SURE WE'RE RESPONDING TO CUSTOMER NEEDS, ETC.
THAT WILL RUN OFTENTIMES IN PARALLEL WITH THOSE PRIORITIES.
THE OTHER IDEAS AND I WILL SAY THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND, YOU KNOW THIS WELL, RON, BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW THIS CLOSELY. WE HAVE OVER 120 PROJECTS IN THAT CIP.
THE ITO SITE, AS AN EXAMPLE, ISN'T A I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE CLASSIFIED IT AS A CIP OR IF WE'VE CLASSIFIED IT AS A STANDALONE BUDGET WORK ITEM AS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, BUT EITHER WAY, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE EFFECTIVELY GOING TO BE IN A QUEUE, AND THE REALITY IS, AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE FOR US TO SAY WE COULD PRODUCE AND DELIVER 120 PROJECTS A YEAR, WE CAN'T. THE REALITY IS WE'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 25 PROJECTS A YEAR, AND THEN WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO DESIGN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 25 TO BE CONSTRUCTED THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO IT TAKES A WHILE ONCE AN ITEM GETS INTO THE QUEUE.
SO WHILE IT FEELS FRESH, I KNOW IN YOUR MIND, AND YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE ITO PROJECT, AS AN EXAMPLE, IT IS STILL BUMPING UP AGAINST PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE QUEUE AND ARE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH.
NOW, ARE THERE WAYS FOR IT TO BE PULLED OUT OF THE BACK OF THE LINE OR THE MIDDLE OF THE LINE AND ACCELERATED? CERTAINLY, RIGHT, IF IT'S A MAJOR COUNCIL PRIORITY, IF IT'S ADDRESSING AN URGENT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY NEED IF IT'S CAUGHT UP IN LITIGATION OR WE'RE RESPONDING AS A CURE TO DIFFERENT LITIGATION ISSUES, THERE ARE THINGS THAT MIGHT CREATE AND TO CALL IT BYPASS THE LINE,
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THE SORT OF FAST PASS CONCEPT THAT MIGHT BRING CERTAIN THINGS FORWARD, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IDEAS ARE GOING TO COME FORWARD BY COUNCIL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FUNDED OR APPROVED IN CONCEPT, FUNDED AND THEN DELIVERED ON BY STAFF IN THAT SORT OF ORDER.WE ALL WANT TO SEE MORE PACE IN THAT RESPECT, BUT IN THE ITO PROJECT, THE PATH OF HISTORY, THEY'RE GREAT. I THINK THEY'RE GREAT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, BUT THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
I MEAN, PICKLEBALL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. JUST BASIC DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE IN OUR VARIOUS FACILITIES, OF COURSE, ARE ALWAYS CRITICAL. MEASURE FP NOW IS VERY MUCH A PRIORITY FOR STAFF GOING FORWARD.
THE DELIVERY OF NEW POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS.
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT GET INTRODUCED THAT ARE GOING TO CONTROL OUR BANDWIDTH, AND IN SOME CASES, THEY MAY HURT THE PRIORITIZATION OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE QUEUE.
SO IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I EXPECT OF LIAISONS SUPPORTING YOU ALL, THIS COMMISSION HAS MORE STAFF SUPPORT THAN ANY OF THE COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR HERE, YOU'VE GOT STAFF DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE STAFF FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES. THIS COMMISSION HAS A UNIQUE SCOPE OF DUTY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT HERE. MY EXPECTATION OF STAFF IS THAT THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL, THEY'RE RESPECTFUL, THEY'RE INFORMATIVE. THEY HELP YOU ULTIMATELY ACCOMPLISH YOUR ROLE.
YOU HAVE AN ADJUDICATIVE ROLE. YOU HAVE PRESERVATION RESPONSIBILITIES.
YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE YOU WILL BE MAKING DETERMINATIONS.
YOU'LL HAVE SUPPORT TO DO THAT, BUT THERE IS A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN ULTIMATELY ACHIEVE, AND THERE MAY BE FANTASTIC IDEAS COMING FROM COMMISSIONS, BUT THEY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE QUEUE.
HAVE TO BE FILTERED THROUGH THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL IN OUR BROADER STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO IT'S A BALANCE. WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE.
WE NEED TO BE INFORMATIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO AT TIMES BE ABLE TO TELL A COMMISSION, WE CAN'T GET THAT TO YOU RIGHT AWAY, AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR POINT COMES IN, AND YOU'VE BEEN FABULOUS AT THIS.
YOU'VE GOT TO KIND OF DO THAT RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN.
LOOK AT IT, EVALUATE IT. WE'LL GET IT ON YOUR AGENDA.
WE'LL WE'LL CERTAINLY BE HERE TO HELP YOU TALK ABOUT IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THAT ADVICE MAY BE THEN HAS TO GO BACK THROUGH THOSE OTHER FILTERS BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ACTUAL WORK ASSIGNMENT FOR STAFF.
SO THAT'S THERE'S THAT BALANCE WHERE WE'LL DO THINGS TO SUPPORT THE COMMISSION WHEN IT'S IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BROADER CITY PRIORITIES AND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, BUT IF IT'S A NEW IDEA THAT THE COMMISSION IS COMING UP WITH, TYPICALLY TO START THAT EXERCISE, THAT RESEARCH, THAT INITIATIVE HAS GOT TO COME FROM YOU AS A GROUP.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD SORT OF DIVIDE THAT ROLE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO MR. CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE BUDGET ITEMS? YES, A COMMENT THAT'S JUST KIND OF BACK TO TREES, BY THE WAY.
MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC OF THE DAY. I LIVE IN NORTH REDONDO, CLOSE TO THE GREENWAY BIKEWAY.
WE USED TO HAVE TREES DOWN ROCKEFELLER. WHEN I MOVED DOWN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOW THEY'RE ALL GONE, AND HAS THERE BEEN TALK THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT RESTORING TREES ON THE GREENWAY OR SPECIFICALLY ROCKEFELLER LANE ON THE GREENWAY? YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE TO. THE THAT GOES BACK TO THE EDISON RULES AND REGULATIONS UNDER THEIR TRANSMISSION DRIP LINE CORRIDOR CONCERNS.
THEY HAVE VERY SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CAN BE PLANTED, HEIGHT, ETC.
THE BEST WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW ARE KIND OF HEALTHY SHRUBS.
WE HAVE NOT WE CANNOT REPLACE TREES IF THEY GO DOWN, IF THE TREES THAT WERE THERE WERE THERE AT ONE POINT, THEY KIND OF SNUCK IN UNDER THE PRIOR POLICIES.
THEY CAN'T BE REPLACED. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
YEAH, ACTUALLY, I TALKED TO MIKE KLINE ABOUT IT.
HE SAID, DON'T DIG. YEAH, WE ARE LIMITED ON DIGGING.
WE HAVE WE HAVE PIPELINES IN CERTAIN AREAS TO SHUT ME DOWN.
YEAH, IT'S A CHALLENGE. IT'S A LOOK WE WANT MORE.
WE WANT AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN PLANT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE EDISON RIGHT OF WAY.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THE TREE QUESTION? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE A CITY ARBORIST AGAIN OR ARE WE.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE NEED TO REFRESH THE INVENTORY, BUT WE HAVE A FULL DATABASE OF ALL OF OUR TREES, OUR URBAN FORESTS. IT'S IN A, IT'S IN AN ACTUAL OLD SOFTWARE PROGRAM.
I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED. IT'S GOSH, I USED TO KNOW THE NAME OF IT, BUT IT'S ESCAPING ME NOW,
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BUT WE HAVE A FULL DATABASE THAT TRACKS TYPE SPECIES VOLUME VALUE.SO IF THERE'S AN UNFORTUNATE ISSUE WHERE SOMEBODY DAMAGES A TREE, EITHER ACCIDENTALLY OR INTENTIONALLY, WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO TO, TO SEEK RENUMERATION.
SO, YEAH, WE HAVE A FULL DATABASE, AND THAT'S THROUGH WHICH DEPARTMENT? THROUGH THE PARK SERVICES DIVISION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. OKAY.
YEAH. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT INVENTORY EVERY YEAR.
I HEARD ON SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHICH IS MOST OF THE CITY.
IT'S ALL GOOD. IT'S ALL GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. APPRECIATE IT. WELL THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO MUCH.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM H.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY ANYBODY ONLINE.
ANY COMMENTS. NO E-COMMENTS, BUT THERE IS ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM.
OKAY. DO THEY HAVE ANY. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANYTHING.
WOULD WOULD THEY LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM I EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.
[I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]
ANYBODY WISH TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION? SURE. SO WE HAVE ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.DEALING WITH HISTORIC LANDMARK AND USE ON IT, AND I INDICATED FROM THE LAST TIME IT CAME UP ON THE AGENDA THAT I WANTED TO GO OUT AND SEE THE COMMUNITY, THE AREA, BECAUSE OF A COMMENT THAT COMMISSIONER GALASSI MADE WITH REGARDS TO IS IT GOING TO CHANGE THE COMMUNITY, THE AREA? SO THAT WAS ONE AND THEN I GOT APPROACHED WHILE I WAS AT THE MORRELL HOUSE WITH ONE OF THE PEOPLE I BELIEVE IS GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY TODAY, AND THAT'S IT FOR MY EX PARTY COMMUNICATION. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM J, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
WE CAN BEGIN WITH ITEM J ONE. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ITEM J ONE, A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 102, 104, 106 NORTH BROADWAY AND 401, 403, 405 EMERALD STREET AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK PURSUANT TO CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ANDREW TO RUN THROUGH THIS PROJECT FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. THIS ITEM IS A LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR A BUNGALOW COURT, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADDRESSES OF 102, 104, 106 NORTH BROADWAY AND ONE AND 401, 403, AND 405 EMERALD STREET. THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED NORTHEAST OF NORTH BROADWAY AND EMERALD STREET. IT IS ZONED R-3A.
THE LOT SIZE IS 10,100FT², AND THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH NINE UNITS AND SEVEN BUILDINGS, WITH ABOUT A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 4440FT², SIX GARAGES AND CONSISTING OF EIGHT ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND ONE STUDIO.
THIS IS LISTED AS A RATED PROPERTY IN THE 1986 SURVEY.
THIS INCLUDES 411, 413, 415, AND 417 EMERALD STREET AND 108 NORTH BROADWAY.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE NORTH BROADWAY ELEVATION, WHICH FEATURES TWO SETS OF STAIRS LEADING UP TO THE ARCHED WALKWAY IN BETWEEN THREE BUNGALOWS, AND HERE WE SEE THE EMERALD STREET ELEVATION FACING SOUTH, WHICH HAS WHICH ALSO HAS TWO SETS OF STAIRS LEADING UP THROUGH TWO ARCH WALKWAYS IN BETWEEN TWO BUNGALOWS, AND A TWO-STORY BUILDING WHICH HAS GARAGES UNDERNEATH THE DRIVEWAY.
TO THE EAST IS AN AUTO COURT AND ALSO FEATURES AN ARCHWAY.
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AND THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY GARDENS. THE BUNGALOW COURT FEATURES AN ASSORTMENT OF INTERCONNECTED PATHS AND A COMMON YARD AREA WITH LUSH LANDSCAPING. THE BUNGALOW COURT ALSO HAS AN AUTO COURT, WHICH HAS GARAGES UNDERNEATH RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND IS COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THE GARDENS AND WALKWAYS, AND IS WALLED OFF FROM THE STREET WITH AN ARCHED WINDOW AND ARCHED GATE.ONE OF THE GARAGE DOORS IS OF THE SWING OUT CARRIAGE HOUSE, CARRIAGE HOUSE STYLE.
AS SEEN ON THE PREVIOUS PHOTOS. SOME OF THE NOTABLE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE BUNGALOW COURT ARE THE STAIRCASES LEADING UP TO ARCHED ENTRYWAYS, A SMOOTH, LIGHT COLORED STUCCO WALL OR WALLS, ROOFS THAT FEATURE TRADITIONAL RED BARREL TILES, DECORATIVE PARAPETS ALONG THE ROOF LINE, SLIGHTLY CURVED AND STEPPED DESIGN, TERRACOTTA CLAY ROOF DRAINPIPES AND DOORS AND WINDOW FRAMES THAT ARE PAINTED A MUTED BLUE. BUNGALOW COURTS ARE A DISTINCTIVE FORM OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THAT EMERGED IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, AND THEY TYPICALLY CONSIST OF SMALL DETACHED UNITS ARRANGED AROUND A CENTRAL COURTYARD OR WALKWAYS.
HERE YOU SEE. THE BRIEF SUMMARY OF CHARLES WORTHAM.
CHARLES WORTHAM PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE HISTORY OF REDONDO BEACH.
HE WAS THE MAYOR BETWEEN 1947 AND 52. HE WAS ON THE COUNCIL 41 TO 47.
HE IS REMEMBERED FOR BEING INSTRUMENTAL IN BUILDING THE WATER AND SEWAGE SYSTEMS. APPARENTLY HE ALSO BATTLED THE MAFIA. AFTER THE GAMBLING DAYS, AND HE WAS A RESIDENT OF UNIT 106 NORTH BROADWAY, AND HE ALSO MAINTAINED AN OFFICE IN 405 EMERALD, AND THIS WAS DURING THE TIME HE WAS MAYOR.
ANOTHER NOTEWORTHY RESIDENT WAS FLOYD INGRAM.
HE LIVED IN UNIT 102, NORTH BROADWAY AND HE WAS THE FIRST PAID FIRE CAPTAIN IN THE REDONDO BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT, ON WHICH HE SERVED FOR TEN YEARS, AND THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL AND FIRE STATION WERE APPROXIMATELY TWO BLOCKS FROM THIS LOCATION. SO THIS WAS A CONVENIENT PLACE FOR BOTH OF THESE IMPORTANT FIGURES TO LIVE.
NOW WE CAN GO OVER THE CRITERIA FOR THE DESIGNATION OF A LANDMARK.
STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS PROPERTY QUALIFIES UNDER CRITERIA A, B, C, AND E, WITH A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON CRITERIA C, WHICH IS THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. UNDER CRITERIA A.
WE ALSO HAVE FLOYD INGRAM, WHO WAS THE CITY'S FIRST PAID FIRE CAPTAIN, AND AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE PREVIOUS PHOTOS, UNDER CRITERIA C, WE HAVE THE DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS OF A BUNGALOW COURT IN ITS LAYOUT AND WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN TERMS OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, AND UNDER CRITERIA E THIS LOCATION WAS IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN SITE AND SET AMONG SEVERAL DESIGNATED LANDMARK PROPERTIES.
STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER.
WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDED NAME FOR THIS LANDMARK, AS HISTORIC RESEARCH DID NOT REVEAL ANY NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY, AND STAFF NOW RECOMMENDS THAT IF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES FINDS THAT THE APPLICATION MEETS THE CRITERIA, THAT IT ADOPT AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND APPROVE THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 102,
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104, 106 NORTH BROADWAY AND 401, 403 AND 403 EMERALD STREET.THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
GREAT PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THE HISTORY. THAT WAS GOOD. NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.
YEAH. I GOT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
THIS IS PHENOMENAL. THE RESEARCH YOU DID, IT'S ACTUALLY AN A TESTAMENT TO THE LIBRARY AS WELL, WHO ACTUALLY DIGITIZED A LOT OF THE MATERIAL THAT YOU ENDED UP RESEARCHING, BUT I FOUND IT FASCINATING GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE STORIES ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE. THE QUESTION I HAD IS, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHY AREN'T WE GOING FOR LIKE, A HISTORIC DISTRICT, OR IS THIS A PRELIMINARY STEP FOR THAT, OR AN OVERLAY DISTRICT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? BECAUSE THERE IS A LARGE QUANTITY OF HOUSES THERE.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. ESSENTIALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS OFFER THE SAME LEVEL OF BENEFIT AND PROTECTION INDIVIDUALLY, AND EVEN THOUGH THE 1986 SURVEY HAD PROPOSED LANDMARK DISTRICTS, MANY OF THOSE DID NOT COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE THEY WERE THEY NEEDED CONSENT OF INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS FOR THEIR FORMATION.
BECAUSE IF WE EVER HAD A CIVIC PARADE, IT WOULD BE DOWN THAT STREET WITH ALL THE CHURCHES THERE.
I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GOOD CONDITION, ACTUALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THE LIGHT FIXTURES. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THOSE LIGHT FIXTURES ARE INDICATIVE OF THAT TIME PERIOD, AND THE DOOR THAT HAD THE HALF MOON WINDOW AS WELL.
I MEAN, IF WE IF WE DESIGNATE THIS RIGHT, A HISTORIC PROPERTY, THEN DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER THEN NEED TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE ELEMENTS? SURE.
THE SHORT ANSWER IS THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD BRING TO THE MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE, AND WE COULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS IS A NEW, NEW PROCESS FOR HIM, AND THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE MILLS ACT , WHICH WILL HAVE A WORK PLAN. SO WE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE, WE COULD ASSIST WITH THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE MOVE TO MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY. DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? PUBLIC HEARING ITEM? NO.
I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? NO. I MEAN, I JUST I THINK IT'S A REALLY FABULOUS GROUPING OF BUILDINGS, AND I LOVE DRIVING BY IT, AND IT JUST EXEMPLIFIES THE HISTORY OF REDONDO BEACH AND YOU KIND OF, YOU KNOW, START TO DAYDREAM WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST AND THINK, WHAT ELSE WAS HERE. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WANTING TO KIND OF RATIFY ITS HISTORY, AND SO. OKAY. ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO. APPROVE CONDITIONALLY THE RESOLUTION.
SUBJECT TO THE MINOR ALTERATIONS, REVIEW OF THOSE ELEMENTS, DOOR AND LIGHTING FIXTURES, POTENTIALLY THE WINDOWS. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I'D LIKE THE MINOR ALTERATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THAT.
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SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONTINGENT ON THE MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW, AND DO I NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION IN ITS ENTIRETY.I BELIEVE YOU CAN JUST REFERENCE THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S TITLED HERE WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, AND IF THE COMMISSION CONCURS, WILL AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO REFLECT THAT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT.
OKAY. SO REFERENCING THE RESOLUTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH FOR A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 102, 104, 106 NORTH BROADWAY AND 401, 403, 405 EMERALD STREET, PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM J2, A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION FOR AN ADDITION TO THE DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTY LOCATED AT 510 GARNET STREET. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING.
THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY HEARD BY YOUR COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 12TH.
I'M GOING TO SKIP SOME OF THE PRELIMINARIES HERE. BASICALLY, THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1910 WITH A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS, AND IT'S BEEN LANDMARKED SINCE 1994. IT'S A CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW STYLE WITH QUEEN ANNE INFLUENCES.
THE SUMMARY OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING IS THAT THE COMMISSION REVIEWED THE FIRST SET OF PLANS, AND PROVIDE COMMENTS AND DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT FOR REVISIONS OF THE SITE PLAN.
SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO MAINTAIN THE SECOND STORY WINDOWS, AND TO LOOK AT WAYS TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE ADDITION, AND COMMENTS WERE MADE THAT THE ROOF DECK, AS IT WAS DESIGNED WAS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE. WE'VE RECEIVED REVISED PLANS, AND THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN REVISED AS FOLLOWS.
EAST WINDOWS WILL BE RELOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
EXISTING WINDOWS WILL REMAIN. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE MASSING OF THE EASTERN FACING GABLE THROUGH A SLOPED ROOF AND RECONFIGURING THE NORTH FACING WINDOWS, AND ON THE ROOF DECK, IT'S.
THE ROOF DECK HAS BEEN SHIFTED TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT'S BEEN INTEGRATED WITHIN THE ROOF LINE, EXCEPT FOR A REAR RAILING WHERE THE ROOF DOES NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT PITCH, AND THE AREA OF THE ROOF DECK HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 378 TO 250FT², AND THIS WILL BE SHOWN ON THE FOLLOWING NEXT SLIDES.
THIS IS A RENDERING FROM NORTH FACING TAKEN FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
STRAIGHT ON. THIS IS A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE ORIGINAL OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IN THE FIRST COLUMN, AND THESE ARE TAKEN FROM THE NORTHEAST AND FROM THE NORTHWEST, SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS EXISTING. SECOND COLUMN IS AS PROPOSED AT THE LAST MEETING, AND THE THIRD COLUMN IS THE CURRENT REVISION. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH ELEVATION.
THE ROOF DECK IS NOT VISIBLE FROM GARNET. THE MASSING WHERE THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS MEET HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED, AND THE ROOF DECK HAS BEEN REDUCED, AND THE SECOND STORY OFFICE BEDROOM ROOF HAS BEEN HIPPED.
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THIS IS A WEST ELEVATION FROM CAMINO REAL, AND AGAIN, IT'S THE EXISTING THE LAST PROPOSED PLANS AND THE CURRENT SET OF PLANS. THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE ROOF DECK.PROPOSED ROOF DECK IN YELLOW AS SEEN IN THIS DIAGRAM.
THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE LISTS THREE CRITERIA.
FIRST, THE PROJECT HAS TO CONFORM TO THE PRESCRIPTIVE STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION, AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, AND THE NEXT SEVERAL THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL COVER THOSE, AND STANDARDS TWO AND THREE ARE SATISFIED BY VIRTUE OF THE ADDITION BEING IN THE REAR OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AND BY PUTTING THE ADDITION TO THE REAR. THAT MEANS ALL OF THE DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ARE BEING PRESERVED, AND THE IDENTIFIED CHARACTERISTIC FEATURES OF THIS STYLE IN THIS HOUSE ARE THE HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.
THE WINDOWS WITH WIDE WOOD TRIM SURROUNDS, DECORATIVE EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, AND THE OFF-CENTERED COVERED FRONT PORCH WITH A STREET FACING GABLE AND ATTIC WINDOW AND TURNED POSTS. THE FRONT ENTRY DOOR AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOOR.
SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL COVER THE PRESCRIPTIVE STANDARDS OF THE COMMISSION.
THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE ADOPTED IN 1993 STATE THAT THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] PROGRAM IS TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES IN THE CITY.
THE PORCH IS MAINTAINED. THE SIDING MEETS PROPER STANDARDS AND HAS AUTHENTIC MATERIALS.
TRIM DETAIL TIES THE ADDITION TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND THE WINDOWS ARE PROPORTIONED PER THE ORIGINAL STYLE, AND THE COMMISSION STANDARDS ALSO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR, INTERIOR STANDARDS, AND THE TWO THAT ARE MOST APPLICABLE TO ADDITIONS ARE STANDARDS NINE AND TEN, WHICH THE NEXT SLIDES WILL COVER.
THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO LANDMARK PROPERTIES NEED TO BE DIFFERENTIATED YET COMPATIBLE.
THE WAY THIS PROPOSED ADDITION IS DIFFERENTIATED IS THAT IT'S THROUGH A NUMBER OF WAYS, INCLUDING SIDING, WINDOWS, FASCIA, AND TRIM BOARDS. IT'S ALL THE SAME TYPE OF MATERIAL, JUST DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS, AND THEN THE ADDITION IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE MASSING SIZE, SCALE OF THE ORIGINAL.
SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THAT'S THE CASE IS THAT THE SECOND STOREY REFLECTS THE NARROW TEARING OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, WHICH IS A WIDE BASE AND A SMALLER, NARROWER SECOND STOREY.
THE ADDITION IS UNDER 700FT² IN SIZE. THE SECOND STOREY IS ALSO SET BACK WITHIN THE ROOF LINE OF THE MAIN STORY, AND SET BACK FROM THE ORIGINAL HOUSE. ON THE EAST SIDE.
THERE'S A 46 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE'S ALSO A FLAT ROOF OVER THE SECOND STOREY, WHICH HELPS TO MAINTAIN A CONSISTENT ROOF PITCH, AND STANDARD NUMBER TEN OF THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR IS SATISFIED AS FOLLOWS.
THERE IS NO DISPROPORTIONATE OR BOXY ELEMENTS.
THE SPATIAL RELATIONSHIPS ARE MAINTAINED, STARTING WITH THE GABLED ENTRYWAY FROM THE PORCH AND THE LIVING AREAS THAT ARE EXPANDED INTO SIDE WINGS, AND A SECOND FLOOR, WHICH WILL HAVE A MASTER BEDROOM, AN OFFICE, AND A REAR BALCONY.
THE PROPOSED ADDITION IS COMPOSED OF PERPENDICULAR EXTENSIONS OF THE ORIGINAL SHAPES OF OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND ALSO THE DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRINCIPLE OF REVERSIBILITY, BECAUSE THE NEW ADDITIONS CAN BE REMOVED ALONG TWO SEPARATE PLANES,
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A SOUTH PLANE AND A WEST PLANE, AND THEN THE ROOF LINE WOULD BE RESTORED.BEFORE CONCLUDING, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER FIVE EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT WERE ISSUED BY THIS COMMISSION OR THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION, YOUR PREDECESSOR. STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT IN LINE WITH PAST APPROVALS.
WHEREAS GARNET 510 GARNET IS ALREADY A TWO STORY HOUSE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT 605 GARNET ADDED A SECOND ADDITION. THAT'S THE NEXT BLOCK TO THE EAST. 225 AVENUE D ALSO ADDED A SECOND STORY ADDITION, AND WHAT IS CONSISTENT ABOUT ALL THESE PAST APPROVALS IS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE A DECISION TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTERISTIC FEATURES OF THE FRONT FACADE AND SETBACK, THE ADDITION IN THE REAR.
THIS IS AN APPROVAL FOR A SECOND STORY OR TWO STORY ADDITION TO 227 AVENUE C.
THIS IS FOR 228 AVENUE E. THE ADDITION IS IN THE REAR AND THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS MAINTAINED, AND THE FIFTH EXAMPLE IS 709 SOUTH BROADWAY, WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IS PRESERVED AND AN ADDITION IS IN THE REAR. SO BASED ON. BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED IN THE PAST APPROVALS STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO A LANDMARK PROPERTY, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION ADOPT EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU GUYS PUT OUT THIS TAX INCENTIVE LAW FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES BACK IN 1993. DO YOU GUYS STILL USE THAT? AND THE REASON I'M ASKING, BECAUSE IT IT SIMPLIFIES THIS PROCESS, AND I RAISED THE QUESTION THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN IT'S A MILLS ACT PROPERTY, THERE'S A CONTRACT THAT'S ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HOMEOWNER IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY, AND THEN IT'S A TEN YEAR CONTRACT.
EVERY YEAR IT RENEWS, AND AT SOME POINT THE HOMEOWNER, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF IT, CAN JUST BASICALLY SAY, I'M DONE AND THEN AT THE END OF TEN YEARS, YOU'RE NO LONGER ON THE REGISTRY.
WHAT? IT'S CALLED A NON-RENEWAL, AND YEAH. SO THAT IS A PROCESS THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T WANT IT IN THERE.
IS THAT YOUR GUYS' CREATION, OR IS THAT HER CREATION? THAT'S FROM THE. THAT'S FROM THE PERSON WHO SUBMITTED IT.
OKAY. SO I'M STILL LEFT AS GREAT AS THE JOB YOU DID WITH THE LAST PROPERTY THAT WE LOOKED AT.
YOU GUYS HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS PROPERTY, AND I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT HAPPENED. NO HISTORICAL RESEARCH DONE BY THE STAFF.
THERE IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARCHITECT IS HERE TODAY.
OKAY. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, TOO. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT TYPE OF HOUSE THIS IS? THERE IS ON PAGE 155. EXCUSE ME, 157 OF THE REPORT, AND THIS CAME FROM THE ARCHITECT SAYING THIS IS A QUEEN ANNE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF HOUSE.
THERE IS IN THE REDONDO BEACH HISTORICAL RESOURCES
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INVENTORY OF 1986 AND 96. THEY CALL IT A CRAFTSMAN.SO WHICH ONE IS IT? I'VE SEEN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SOURCES AS WELL.
SO I THINK THE CORRECT ANSWER, IT'S A CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW WITH QUEEN ANNE INFLUENCES BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT IN 1910, AND SO IT WASN'T QUITE READY FOR THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE, AND IT'S NOT GRAND ENOUGH TO FULLY BE A QUEEN ANNE.
SO MOST OF THIS ERA WOULD HAVE BEEN CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF SURVEYS, SOMETIMES PEOPLE PUT DOWN SOMETHING T HAT IS, THEY PUT DOWN ONE ANSWER, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES MORE COMPLICATED.
SO THE CITY'S ANSWER TO WHAT KIND OF PROPERTY THIS IS IS WHAT IT WOULD BE, PROBABLY CALDWELL.
OKAY, AND ALSO ON PAGE 159, THERE'S A GARNET FAR COMPARISON.
AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY THAT THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS 3310FT²? I THINK THAT'S CORRECT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO BE GENERALLY AROUND 1000FT².
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THREE, THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE STREET? YES, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK THERE ARE THREE OTHER TWO BEDROOM, TWO STOREY HOUSES WHICH ARE MORE AROUND 2000FT².
OKAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT SHOULD GO TO THE ARCHITECT OR YOU, BUT WHEN I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I NOTICED ON THE GARAGE, AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE GARAGE DOOR IS BASICALLY THE SAME STYLE.
ON PAGE 160 OF THE MATERIALS, THERE'S A RAILING.
SO THIS IS A PULL GARAGE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE IN THE CITY OF REDONDO, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S MAKING IT THROUGH THE TRANSITION AS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. DID YOU GUYS EXPLORE THAT WITH THE ARCHITECT? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS. I THINK THE GARAGE DOORS IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.
IS THE WHAT? ARE THE GARAGE DOOR IS INTENDED TO BE MAINTAINED.
EVERYTHING ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS BEING MAINTAINED? WELL. THE PICTURES DON'T SHOW THAT. THE PICTURES SHOW THAT IT'S THE WAY THAT THE SYSTEM IS SET UP.
YOU HAVE TO SLIDE IT LIKE YOU WOULD. A BARN DOOR IS NO LONGER THERE, AND THAT IS A DISTINCTIVE FEATURE, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S THE ONLY ONE I'VE EVER SEEN IN REDONDO BEACH LIKE THAT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET ASK THE ARCHITECT FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT DESIGN COMPONENT.
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE DOORS ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.
OKAY, THEN I'LL WAIT TILL THE ARCHITECT COMES UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU BOTH.
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I'M MILES PRESCOTT, ARCHITECT, PRESCOTT JOHNSON ARCHITECTS. I'M HAPPY I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS.
SO BASED ON OUR LAST HEARING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO SLIDE TWO, PLEASE. THANKS. THE THREE KEY POINTS FROM OUR LAST HEARING WERE THAT WE RETAIN THE SECOND STORY WINDOWS AND REDUCE THE MASSING AT THE EAST SIDE. SECOND FLOOR, AND EVERYBODY WAS OBJECTING TO THE VISUAL PRESENCE OF THE DECK ROOF DECK.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO AS MENTIONED IN STAFF REPORT AND I'M PROBABLY REHASHING SOME OF THIS, BUT WE DID RETAIN THE EXISTING WINDOWS IN THE SECOND FLOOR.
SECOND STORY. SLIDE FOUR PLEASE. WE DID SIMPLIFY THE MASSING ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE.
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WE CUT THE ROOF BACK TO HAVE A HIP, SO WE HAVE A WRAP AROUND ROOF INSTEAD OF THE GABLE END.WE GOT RID OF THE POP OUT ELEMENTS THERE AND MADE A SIMPLE JUNCTION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THE EXISTING SECOND STORY AND THE NEW, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE NEW SECOND STORY STARTS AT THE END OF THE EXISTING SECOND STORY, AND WE DID, OF COURSE REMOVE THOSE RAILING ELEMENTS FROM THE ROOF DECK, WHICH LEADS US TO SLIDE FIVE, PLEASE. SO WE DID SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WENT AWAY.
WE PULLED IT BACK FROM THE EDGES. WE REDUCED IN SIZE.
WE GOT RID OF THE INTERIOR STAIR AND AN EXTERIOR STAIR AT THE REAR, BUT THE END RESULT IS THAT WE HAVE ELIMINATED ANY SORT OF VISUAL PRESENCE OF THE ROOF DECK FROM SOMEONE WALKING ALONG OR DRIVING THROUGH ALONG GARNET OR EL CAMINO REAL AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AND THIS IS THE SORT OF THE PREVIOUS ONE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ELEMENT ON THE LEFT IS VERY HIGH, ELEMENT IS GONE AND IT'S JUST REGULAR ROOFLINE THERE, AND SLIDE SEVEN PLEASE, AND THIS IS A COMPARISON OF WHAT WAS BEFORE, WHERE THE ROOF DECK WAS PUSHED OUT. PRETTY FAR TO THE FRONT THERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE STAIR WAS COMING UP, AND THAT WAS SORT OF CREATING A HIGH ELEMENT IN THAT SORT OF LEFT THAT JUNCTURE POINT BETWEEN THE EAST SECOND STORY AND THEN THE EXISTING SECOND STORY. SO WE PULLED THAT BACK AND EVERYTHING.
SINCE THERE'S ROOF MATERIAL THAT ESSENTIALLY MAKES IT INVISIBLE, AND WE HAD AN EXTERIOR STAIR AT THE REAR ALL OVER NEW ADDED AREA, NOT OVER THE EXISTING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AND SO WE THINK THAT THESE CHANGES AS, AS SORT OF DRIVEN OR DIRECTED BY THE COMMISSION. I THINK WE CREATED A DESIGN THAT, AS PER STAFF'S PRESENTATION ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONS BUT MAINTAINS THE.
HISTORIC CORE AND VISIBLE ELEMENTS AND KEY ELEMENTS OF THE HISTORIC HOME, IN PARTICULAR THE, YOU KNOW, THE PORCH, THE CARRIAGE DOOR, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE CHANGED.
ALL THOSE THOSE VERY KEY TACTILE ELEMENTS AS ONE'S WALKING BY THE SIDEWALK WILL STILL BE REMAIN IN PLACE, AND THE REST THE ADDED ELEMENTS WILL BE. SET BACK AND DIFFERENTIATED SO THAT THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC STRUCTURE CAN BE ALWAYS DISCERNED.
NEXT SLIDE, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO ON THE S GERTRUDA AND GARNET ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT CORNER.
SO THERE ARE FOUR. FOUR HOUSES IN THAT BLOCK THAT ARE TWO STORY HOMES.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THERE WAS ALSO ON THE CORNER OF S GERTRUDA AND GARNET WAS AN ADDITION, A SECOND STORY ADDITION OR ADDITION ON TOP OF THE GARAGE OF THIS HISTORIC CORNER PROPERTY HERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS THIS PROJECT, WHICH HAS A VERY, VERY UNIQUE SOLUTION TO PRESERVING THE HOUSE, WHICH WAS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOMES BEHIND WHICH AFFECTS THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE PREDEVELOPMENT, BUT STILL MAINTAINS THE HISTORICAL QUALITIES AND IMPORTANT PROPERTIES OF ASPECTS OF THAT PROPERTY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AND THEN STAFF REFERRED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND THEN THE SLIDE AFTER THAT IS SHOWS A SORT OF AERIAL VIEW OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT RESULTED IN AND HOW THE MASSING WAS STEPPED AND THE RELATIVE SIZE OF THAT, INCLUDING A ROOF DECK IN THE BACK. THAT BASICALLY CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
NEXT SLIDE. YEAH. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE.
WELL, COMMISSIONER, WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THAT DOOR CURRENTLY.
IT IS FIXED IN PLACE, AND THERE IS A LIVING SPACE THERE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WILL BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S ADU REQUIREMENTS, BUT OUR INTENT IS TO NOT WHATEVER IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WILL NOT BE CHANGED AT ALL BECAUSE THE PICTURE LOOKS DIFFERENT THAT YOU PRESENTED. SO I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 160.
OKAY. WELL I WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT OUR PROPOSAL IS NOT TO CHANGE THAT CARRIAGE DOOR AT ALL.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FRONT PORCH. ANY OF THOSE EXISTING ELEMENTS ARE GOING TO REMAIN.
OKAY. I ALSO WAS READING IN YOUR REPORT THAT'S DATED JULY 30TH, 2024 THAT THE EXISTING FOUNDATION
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CONSISTS OF UNREINFORCED BRICK MASONRY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT COMPLETELY CORRECT.OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGED AN ENGINEER, BUT THE WITH UNREINFORCED MASONRY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF THE PROPER SUPPORT FOR THE HOUSE THAT WILL RESIST EARTHQUAKES AND SETTLEMENT AND SO FORTH. IT'S BEEN THROUGH THREE MAJOR ONES ALREADY, THE CLOSEST ONE BEING LONG BEACH IN THE 30S, BUT IS IT BECAUSE IT CAN'T SUPPORT THE SECOND STOREY BEING THERE, OR IS IT SOME OTHER REASON? PRIMARILY IT'S BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS A HISTORIC HOME.
MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL THOSE KIND OF ASPECTS NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
THEY THERE'S NO HEATING IN THE HOUSE. SO IN TERMS OF DOING THE NEW WORK, IT'S A QUESTION OF BRINGING EVERYTHING UP TO A CURRENT STANDARD SUCH THAT IT WILL LAST FOR ANOTHER 150 YEARS. THERE WILL BE NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE WITH THE FOUNDATION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE LIKE A, LIKE A PLASTER COAT OVER THE BRICK. SO IT'LL HAVE IT'LL IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT IT'S MY CLIENT'S INTENT TO SORT OF PUSH THE RESET BUTTON AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THAT EVERYTHING FUNCTIONS PROPERLY AND THE HOUSE IS C OMPLETELY STABLE. OKAY, SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT WHERE THE FOUNDATION IS IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY CHANGED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ONE LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW ON THE GROUND, ON THE ON THE FOR THE FOUNDATION DESIGN.
YES. I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE. I ACTUALLY I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET ANALYSIS FROM THE ENGINEER AND THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT THERE PROBABLY ARE A PIER SYSTEM INSIDE THERE LIKE A, AS OPPOSED TO JUST LIKE RUNNING EVERYTHING TO A FOUNDATION WALL.
SO I THINK OUR PLAN IS TO GO THROUGH AND UPGRADE THE FOUNDATION AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME DO FOUNDATIONS FOR THE NEW THE NEW WORK AS WELL. SO IT'S I THINK THAT AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DECOUPLE IN THE FUTURE.
HAS TO BE THE POTENTIAL TO DECOUPLE THE ADDED AREA FROM THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC HOUSE.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS A WAY TO A MEANS TO KEEP AN INDEPENDENT FOUNDATION FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO OKAY, SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO ULTIMATELY UNDERSTAND, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM YOUR PLANS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE TEARDOWN, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING IT BACK UP.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JACK THE SUPPORT THE HOUSE IN PLACE AND POUR THE FOUNDATIONS UNDERNEATH WHICH TO THE LAYMAN SEEMS LIKE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS WHO CAN DO JUST THAT.
SO OUR, OUR IDEA IS TO KEEP THE, KEEP THE HOUSE IN PLACE TO, TO SUPPORT IT AS WE AS WE REPLACE THE FOUNDATIONS AND A COUPLE OTHER APPROACHES, YOU CAN TAKE AND DO WHAT'S CALLED AN ABC SEQUENCE WHERE YOU MIGHT DO CORRESPONDING SEGMENTS AT ONE TIME, KEEPING THE ORIGINAL FOUNDATIONS, THEN COME IN AND DO THE NEXT SECTIONS AND SO THAT YOU CAN.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO THE WHOLE THING. YOU CAN PIPE JACK IT UP IN PLACE. YOU CAN STEEL BEAMS AS YOU WOULD LIKE MOVING A HOUSE AND THEN POUR THE FOUNDATIONS, OR YOU CAN DO SELECTIVE AREAS UNTIL YOU'VE DONE THE COMPLETE. IS THAT THE PLAN? WE HAVE TO, WE HAVEN'T GONE SO FAR AS TO GET THE ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE ARE USUALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ANY ONE WOULD ACCOMPLISH IT, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT SUPPORTED PROPERLY AND THAT AND NOT HAVE ANY VISIBLE EXTERIOR CHANGE TO THE HOME. OKAY. THE PICTURES THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, IT LOOKS NICE FROM THE FRONT, BUT IT HAS A DOUBLE FACING HOUSE. I DON'T SEE ANY PICTURES, OR MAYBE IT HASN'T BEEN EXPLAINED CLEAR WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM CAMINO REAL. YOU SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE. MOST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE CONCEALED FROM CAMINO REAL BY EXISTING TREES AND FENCING.
SO WHAT IS THE PLAN? WELL, I ACTUALLY I HAD THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION SHOWED A VIEW OF CAMINO REAL WITH THE TREE. THERE'S A LINE OF TREES RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE THERE, AND OUR PLAN IS TO KEEP THOSE.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S OUR GOAL AND THAT IS TO KEEP THAT SAME LOOK.
OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. I GUESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
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NO, THAT IS IT; I THINK I'M DONE FOR NOW. ALSO ON MY LIST, THE ELEVATION ON EL CAMINO OR IS THAT ELEVATION REQUIRED TO CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES THAT YOU PUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU KIND OF LISTED THEM AND THERE WAS SOME HAD SOME ELEMENTS HAD TO BE RECESSED FROM THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND I CAN'T REALLY TELL FROM I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANS RIGHT NOW. I CAN'T TELL IF THAT ADDITION IS RECESSED, AND IF THAT NEEDS TO FALL WITHIN THOSE SAME REQUIREMENTS. SO. LET ME JUST PULL UP THE WEST ELEVATION IT SHOULD BE IN.SO ESSENTIALLY WE BASED ON THE CRITERIA, WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE HOUSE, AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT THOSE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES ARE LOCATED ALONG THE GARNET FRONTAGE.
PRIMARILY THAT FRONT PORCH WITH THE FRONT FACING GABLE THE DOOR.
THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOOR AND THE STILE, THE SIDING, THE FASCIA, THE TRIM.
SO THEY'RE SATISFYING THE CRITERIA THROUGH PRESERVING THE FRONT FACING ELEVATION.
IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE DOING A COMPATIBLE DESIGN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONSISTENT.
IT MEETS THE CRITERIA BECAUSE IT'S COMPATIBLE YET DIFFERENTIATED, BUT WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES ON THE SECONDARY ELEVATION, THE WAY THEY WERE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION ON GARNET, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT HISTORICALLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT FRONTAGE BECAUSE IT'S A SIDE YARD.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMEWHERE THAT SOME TREES OLD.
IN THE LETTER IT SAID SOME OLD TREES WERE GOING TO BE REMOVED WITH THIS ADDITION.
SO I'M WONDERING, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE TREES MIGHT BE.
RIGHT. LIKE THOSE COULD COME DOWN AT ANY TIME.
SO I DON'T. I CAN PULL UP THE SITE PLAN. I CAN SEE ONE TREE THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
IT'S THIS ONE. I THINK IT'S THIS ONE HERE. RIGHT.
IT'S ON THE SIDE, AND SO, AND THEN I BELIEVE THESE ARE TREES HERE AS WELL IN GREEN. SO ALL THE TREES ARE THE GREEN CIRCLES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS ME TO ADDRESS THE TREES, BUT I WANT I WANT THE PRIVACY OF THE TREES.
I WANT THE PRIVACY OF HAVING TREES ON MY SIDE YARD.
SO MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO HAVE TREES ALONG THE CAMINO REAL SIDE.
THERE IS A TREE IN THE BACKYARD THAT'S LITERALLY RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BACK DOOR.
BECAUSE THAT SORRY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? I'M SORRY.
BECAUSE OF THAT TREE. SO IT DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED AS A PART OF THE PLAN, BUT TRULY, IT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED REGARDLESS OF THIS RENOVATION, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER ISSUE THAT I'M HAVING WITH PLUMBING BECAUSE OF THE ROOTS OF THAT TREE.
THAT MAKES SENSE. CAN WE GET HER NAME ON THE RECORD? YES. CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? YEAH. KIM DAVIDSON.
THANK YOU. THE MICROPHONE. KIM DAVIDSON. YES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. I MEAN, OKAY, SO JUST FOLLOWING UP. SO BASICALLY THE SIDE YARD DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY AT ALL.
SO THEY COULD CHANGE THE SIDE YARD COMPLETELY, AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY FACTOR INTO THIS PROCESS AT ALL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SECONDARY ELEVATION. SO IT STILL SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBLE AND DIFFERENTIATED.
HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T HAVE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PRESERVED.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. THEY'RE NOT THEY CAN REMOVE ELEMENTS OF THAT SECONDARY ELEVATION, AND THEY'RE DOING THAT TO PUT A PORTION OF THE ADDITION THERE.
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I GUESS I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE WINDOWS HERE. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF HOME THIS WAS, AND I THINK WE KIND OF SETTLED IT WAS A BUNGALOW WITH QUEEN ANNE, BUT THESE WINDOWS LOOK CRAFTSMAN ON THE SIDE HERE. SO AND THEN SO SOME OF THE NOTES IN YOUR PRESENTATION SAID THAT SOME THINGS NEED TO BE KEPT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE, DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE.SO IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE CUE FROM THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, BUT HAVE HINTS THAT THE NEW PART IS NOT WAS NOT ORIGINAL, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FINE LINE. IT HAS TO LOOK CONSISTENT, BUT IT HAS TO BE DIFFERENTIATED, AND AS FAR AS STYLE, I MEAN, THE THOUGHT IS TO KEEP THE SAME STYLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE WINDOWS ARE NOT THE CORRECT STYLE, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS TO VARY THE WINDOW PANES A LITTLE BIT TO INDICATE THAT PORTION OF THE HOUSE IS NEWER.
SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF IT WAS WORKING.
I READ THE LETTER FROM THE RESIDENTS AND ONE OF THEM SPECIFICALLY AND I THINK IT DOES CHANGE THINGS FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST ON THE TOPIC OF THE SIZE AND THE SHEER VOLUME OF THE ADDITIONS IN GENERAL.
IS THERE ANYTHING TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN THE MILLS ACT, WHICH SPECIFIES A LIMIT IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH A PROPERTY CAN HAVE AS AN ADDITION? IS THERE ESSENTIALLY MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A CAP ON SQUARE FOOTAGE ADDITION AS A PART OF THE MILLS ACT REVIEW? NO, NO. DEFINITELY NOT. THIS IS THE COMMISSION'S PURVIEW.
THAT'S EXACTLY SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO REITERATE THE POINT, BECAUSE THE SIZE ISN'T AS SUBJECTIVE AS THAT CAN BE EITHER THE VOLUME, THE CHANGING OF THE CHARACTERS OF THAT, THAT REALLY ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE CAN OPINE ON, OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE A WE CAN'T JUST SAY THAT WE DON'T LIKE IT AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S THERE IS LIKE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE MILLS ACT THAT STRICT CRITERIA.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT DOWN THE LIST ABOUT SO DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES.
OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO DRAW HERE JUST IN TERMS OF THE SIZE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GETTING DIRECTED IS THE SIZE RATHER THAN THE CHARACTER. I MEAN, WE ARE ASKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER.
WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHARACTER, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK I'VE HEARD KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIZE A COUPLE TIMES, MAYBE NOT JUST FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT SOME OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SOME OF THE COMMENTS SEEMS THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT SIZE, AND REGARDLESS, AGAIN, THAT'S SUBJECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIKE THE SIZE OF THE ADDITION OR NOT, BUT REALLY, OUR PURVIEW DOESN'T ADDRESS.
RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE MILLS ACT DOESN'T SPECIFY A CAP ON THE ADDITION OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE. THAT'S CORRECT.
RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRESCOTT? I JUST I KIND OF HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT ON THIS W EST ELEVATION AGAIN.
SO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE LOOKED AT ON THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS IF YOU TAKE AWAY WHATEVER WAS ADDED THE ADDITIONS TO THE PROPOSED HOUSE, IS IT THE SAME HOUSE? SO THIS THIS WEST ELEVATION?
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IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE COLORED PHOTOS OVER THERE, THE RENDERINGS, COLOR RENDERINGS, I THINK IT WOULD A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE.SO THAT EXTENSION ON THE TOP RIGHT AND THE EXTENSION ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THERE IF YOU REMOVE THOSE.
CAN YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ENDED.
SO THE TOP ONE. I THINK YOU CAN, BUT THE BOTTOM ONE, THERE'S REALLY NO DIFFERENTIATION TO WHERE WHERE THE ORIGINAL WHERE THE, THE NEW PORTION IS, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN. I BELIEVE THERE'S THAT VERTICAL.
I THINK WE INTEGRATED THE VERTICAL ELEMENT, THE WHITE BOARD.
IT'S LIKE A FASCIA BOARD RUNNING VERTICAL, AND THAT'S THE DEMARCATION ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
YOU CAN SEE IT JUST LEFT OF THAT OF THE TWO WINDOWS ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
IT MAY SHOW UP BETTER ON THE ELEVATION. THE ACTUAL 2D ELEVATION OKAY.
YOU CAN SEE. YEAH. YOU CAN. YEAH. I THINK THE FRONT ELEVATION UP FRONT.
YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT A YES. SO THERE'S A DETAIL THAT YOU'RE ADDING THERE TO INDICATE WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ENDS, AND THE NEW PART OF THE HOUSE BEGINS, AND THE SIDING WHICH CHANGES DIMENSION AT THAT POINT TOO.
SO KEEP THE EXISTING VERTICAL BOARD AND THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE SIDING.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, IN. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THESE OTHER HOMES WITH THEIR SECOND STORY ADDITIONS AND WHATNOT. TWO OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY MY FIRST VERY FIRST MEETING ON THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE MINUTES JUST TO.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE DID WITH THOSE, AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THEM WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE THE MASSING WAS, YOU KNOW TOO GREAT, AND WE SENT THAT BACK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVER HAPPENED AT THAT POINT.
I DON'T REMEMBER IT COMING BACK, BUT ANYWAY SO ANYTIME WE WOULD LOOK AT THESE HOMES, WE ALSO WOULD LOOK AT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHETHER THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING AND AND, YOU KNOW, WAS MENTIONED ALSO IN THIS IN THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUITE UNIQUE.
WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY OF THESE LEFT IN REDONDO, AND , YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, OF COURSE, LIKE, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE DO TO THE ESSENCE OF THIS PARTICULAR STREET, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT MISS BODIE HAS A POINT HERE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT WERE PROVIDED DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW PLAY INTO THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS PARTICULAR STREET.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DID WANT TO JUST AGREE WITH THAT POINT AND THAT'S IT.
I SAID A LOT OF MY COMMENTS LAST TIME, SO AND THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THE WINDOWS.
THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM? PLEASE. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS GARY TOWNSEND, AND KIMBERLY AND I OWN 512 GARNET STREET, WHICH IS ALSO A HISTORIC HOUSE AND SOME OF MY CONCERNS.
IN ADDITION TO THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE PROPOSAL IS THAT OUR SEPTIC SYSTEM WAS PUT IN BY A BUILDER THAT BUILT FIVE, 14, 512 AND 510, AND THOSE SEPTIC LINES RUN THROUGH OUR BACKYARD TO CAMINO REAL.
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THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT GOES UP 20FT IS DIRECTLY OVER THOSE OLD SEPTIC LINES DURING CONSTRUCTION.WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE WASTE FROM 514 AND 512? ARE THERE CONTINGENCIES GOING TO BE PUT IN PLACE TO HANDLE THAT IN ADDITION? 512 ALSO HAS A BRICK FOUNDATION, AND FROM SOME OF THESE RENDERINGS AND DRAWINGS, OUR HOUSE SITS A MERE FIVE FOOT EIGHT INCHES AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSAL. SO WITH THE NEW FOUNDATION, I DON'T KNOW THE CONSTRUCTION METHODS, BUT I HAVE I HAVE CONCERNS OF MY OWN FOUNDATION AND FOR MY OWN CHIMNEY.
THAT'S ALSO BRICK IN THE CENTER OF THE HOUSE.
IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THREE FEET AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE FOR FIRE ACCESS, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY NOTATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND MAYBE THIS IS TOO EARLY, BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY.
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND MY PARENTS WHO ARE ON ZOOM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. MY NAME IS TESSA BODIE.
THANK YOU. AS A HOMEOWNER, WITHIN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE REVISED PLANS AND WANTED TO BRING FORTH MY THOUGHTS. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS STILL IN THE FLOOR PLANS AND THE ROOF PLANS.
I'M NOT SEEING THE CHIMNEY THAT'S ON TOP OF THE HOUSE.
IT IS A UNIQUE AND ARTISTIC DESIGN. YOU'LL SEE.
BRICK, AND A UNIQUE COPPER CHIMNEY POT UP TOP.
THERE'S ALSO A WEATHER VANE WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE OLD, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT'S NOT DEPICTED ON ANY OF THESE, AND IF IT'S BEING DEMOLISHED BECAUSE THE ROOF IS BEING RAISED AND BECAUSE OF THE ROOFTOP DECK THAT'S GOING IN.
I ALSO WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE WEST SIDE AND WHY THAT'S NOT BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, SINCE THIS IS A CORNER HOUSE. WALKING ALONG CAMINO REAL, YOU CAN SEE THE WEST SIDE, WHICH HAS OLD GROWTH WOOD, DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS POTENTIALLY ANTIQUE WAVY GLASS.
I THINK THE PROPOSED PLANS ARE TO REMOVE THAT WINDOW.
SO CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOW FROM THE WEST AND ON THE CORNER OF GARNET AND CAMINO REAL. LET'S SEE. I ALSO WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
I READ IN SOME PAPERWORK THAT THAT'S BEING PROCESSED UNDER A SEPARATE PERMIT.
IF IT'S PART OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY, WHY IS IT NOT BEING INCLUDED IN THIS ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CARRIAGE DOORS OF THE GARAGE ARE NOTED AS UNIQUE FEATURES OF THE PROPERTY, AND I'M WONDERING IF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 3300FT² INCLUDES THAT UNIT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A ONE BEDROOM WITH A BATHROOM, AND IT INCLUDES A KITCHEN.
IT'S A RENTAL UNIT. SO JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE PLANS OF THAT.
LET'S SEE, AND , AND I SAW ALSO IN THE PLANS THAT THERE'S A FUTURE DOOR THAT GOES IN BETWEEN THAT SPACE FROM THE GARAGE INTO THE HOUSE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE'RE GOING UP OVER AND OUT.
VERSUS MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AND CONSIDERING THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AS PART OF THE BIGGER FLOOR PLAN TO MAKE LESS OF AN IMPACT AND UTILIZING THOSE TWO ROOMS THAT ALREADY EXIST.
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LET'S SEE. I HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONSIDER A FEW OF THE HOMES AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT ON GARNET STREET, AND SPEAKING WITH A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS, THERE IS INTEREST, AND I'M HOPING THAT THE REDONDO BEACH PRESERVATION PLAN CAN BE REVISITED.ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE HISTORICAL INVENTORY HASN'T BEEN UPDATED.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND AND SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT I'M ASKING, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE BACK OF PEOPLE'S MINDS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO ENACT AN INTERIM HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE PROHIBITING DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION ON OUR BLOCK UNTIL THE CITY HAS A CHANCE TO STUDY AND MAKE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE 500 BLOCK OF GARNET.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? DID YOU SAY THAT AT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
THERE'S A KITCHEN. SO IT'S BEING USED AS A RENTAL UNIT, SO IT'S LIKE AN ADU? YEAH. I THINK IT'S UNPERMITTED OR. NO, THAT'S BEEN PERMITTED.
IT'S UNDER A SEPARATE PERMIT. THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
SO THAT GARAGE WAS CONVERTED UNDER STATE LAW PROVISIONS PRIOR TO THIS APPLICATION.
SO WHEN WHEN WAS THAT? DO YOU HAVE THAT? YEAH.
I'M NOT CLEAR ON. OKAY. I THINK IT'S IN PROCESS.
OH, IT'S IN PROCESS. OKAY. DOES IT HAVE A SEPARATE APN? IT. NO, NO, IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY UNDER SAME OWNERSHIP, BUT IT'S UNDER THE STATE LAW PROVISIONS AND THE LOCAL VERSION OF THAT FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
EVEN FOR A HISTORIC PROPERTY, THE WHOLE PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN EVALUATED AS A WHOLE.
YES, EV EN SO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. YEP. FEEL FREE. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING. I'M LAURA MARTINEZ, AND I LIVE AT 511 GARNET.
I DON'T HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. TESSA, DID A GOOD JOB OF DIGGING A LITTLE DEEPER THAN I HAD THE TIME TO DO, BUT I'M HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
I HAVE DEEP ROOTS IN THE SOUTH BAY GOING BACK TO 1915.
MY FAMILY CAME HERE PRIMARILY SOUTH [INAUDIBLE], SOUTH REDONDO, SO I HAVE QUITE AN ATTACHMENT, ESPECIALLY TO GARNET STREET. I HAVE FAMILY PICTURES, WEDDINGS DOWN ON SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT STILL EXIST THERE.
SO I DEFINITELY HAVE A BIG ATTACHMENT TO THE HISTORIC CHARM.
I GOT EVICTED. THEY WERE TORN DOWN AND A BIG MCMANSION BUILT.
SO WHEN I FOUND THIS HOME ON GARNET STREET, I WAS THRILLED AND I FELT LIKE I WAS COMING BACK HOME AND JUST, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY TO WRAP UP. KIM AND I DID TO SPEAK.
I DID SIGN MY APPROVAL FOR HER RENOVATION. IT WAS JUST A QUICK FIVE MINUTE DISCUSSION, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORIC CHARM OF OF THE HOUSE AND ALL THE HOUSES. I WASN'T AWARE OF, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY AN ISSUE OF DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE ADDITION TO THE GARAGE. I WOULD SAY THAT IF I HAVE A BIG CONCERN, IT'S THE ADDITION TO THE TOP OF THE GARAGE.
WE ALL HAVE SMALL LITTLE BARN STYLE GARAGES, AND ON THAT STREET.
THERE'S NO SECOND STORIES TO THE GARAGES, SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE TO ME.
I SEE THIS DESIGN AND I SEE IT. IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK HISTORICAL TO ME ANYMORE.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY NAME REMOVED OFFICIALLY FROM THE APPROVAL UNTIL WE COME TO WHATEVER FINAL DECISIONS THAT YOU, AND HOWEVER THIS WORKS OUT.
THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, AND I LIVE NEXT DOOR AT 512. CO-OWN THE HOUSE WITH GARY TOWNSEND. MY NAME IS KIMBERLY ALBRIGHT, AND I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF KIM DAVIDSON EXPANDING AND RENOVATING, ESPECIALLY THE WIRING AND THE PLUMBING, AND I KNOW HOW SMALL THESE HOUSES ARE.I KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY AND LOVE GOES INTO MAINTAINING THEM.
MANY OF THESE HOMES CAN BE SEEN THROUGHOUT REDONDO ON AND ALSO LIKE ALTADENA AND I USED TO LIVE IN MARTHA'S VINEYARD, WHERE WE HAVE LOTS OF 100 YEAR OLD HOMES THAT THEY DON'T CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, THAT FRONT AREA.
HEARING TODAY WHEN THE ARCHITECT WAS TALKING OR BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE MASONRY AND THE FOUNDATION.
I DO QUESTION LIKE, WHAT KIND ARE THEY GOING TO USE? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE OUT ALL THE BRICK? BECAUSE YOU CAN, CAN'T, SISTER.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO THE HOUSES? OUR HOUSE AND THE HOUSE BEHIND S TRUCTURALLY, WE ARE IN REALLY SOFT SAND, AND THEN I KNOW NOW IT'S SORT OF BEEN SAID, IT DOESN'T NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OTHER HOMES THAT RENOVATED, BUT IT DID MAKE ME WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE THOSE HOMES THAT PUT ON SECOND STORIES? WHAT IS THAT ADDITION? HOW BIG IS THAT ADDITION ? BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES. THIS LOT IS A BIG LOT, BUT IS IT GOING TO HOW MUCH IS IT REALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE VIEW OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE HOUSE? SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AS EVERYONE ELSE WAS TALKING.
YOU KNOW, I WONDER ABOUT THESE ABOUT THE RENDERINGS.
I SEE THE BIG TREE ON THE FAR RIGHT, ABOVE SORT OF WHAT WE CALL THE ROOF.
THE PORCH OR THE ROOFTOP PORCH? PATIO. IS THAT THE TREE THAT'S BEING REMOVED? AND IF SO, WHY ARE WE INCLUDING IT IN THE RENOVATION IN THESE RENDERINGS? IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE? CONCERNING THE TREES THAT GOT BROUGHT UP ON THE SOUTH STREET.
THERE'S SOME PINE TREES THERE, BUT AGAIN, WHAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED THERE? WHAT IS THIS? THERE'S A TREE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S FURTHER BACK.
OR IS THAT A NEW TREE THAT'S BEING PUT IN THERE? JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
ONCE YOU REMOVE THAT LARGE TREE THAT'S CAUSING ALL THE PLUMBING ISSUES? THAT REMOVAL OF THAT TREE, ALL THE PLANTS AND TREES ARE CONNECTED.
THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE 40-60 YEAR OLD TREE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE SHADE THAT IT GIVES THAT TREE.
YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SECOND STORY BEHIND THE AUD UNIT.
I FEEL THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT OFF, AND I SEE THAT THEY DID SORT OF SHIFT IT A LITTLE BIT.
LIKE HOW IS THAT GOING TO SHOW UP WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT FACING OF THE HOUSE.
WHAT'S THAT GUARDRAIL GOING TO BE? AND. JUST LOOKING AT HOW IS THIS RENOVATION? IS IT NECESSARY TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE OTHER HISTORICAL HOUSES ON THE STREET? AND? YOU KNOW, IT CONCERNED ME A LITTLE BIT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE RENDERINGS ON THE EAST SIDE, AND IT'S SHOWING TWO WINDOWS IN THE RENDERING ON THE AUD, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE.
SO IT GOT ME THINKING, LIKE WHAT? WHAT ARE THESE PLANS BEING CHANGED FOR OUR VIEW? BUT THEY'RE NOT LIKE, EVEN IF IF THE FIRST RENDERING ISN'T CORRECT, WHAT ELSE IS IT.
CORRECT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THESE PLANS, AND THEN ALSO ON THESE VIEWS HERE,
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WE DON'T SEE WE DON'T SEE 512 IN THEM. LIKE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE HOUSE IS IN A PRAIRIE.SO ON THE SECOND RENDERING THAT WAS SHOWN IN FEBRUARY.
IT SHOWS. WELL, THAT'S ONLY THERE'S SIX FEET LESS THAN SIX FEET BETWEEN OUR TWO BUILDINGS.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW HOW CLOSE THAT IS, AND THAT THAT'S A PUBLIC WALKWAY, AND YEAH, I HAD THE QUESTION, TOO, ARE THE PLANS IN THE FUTURE FOR THE ADU AND THE HOUSE TO BE CONNECTED? BECAUSE THERE IS NOTES IN THE FLOOR PLAN THAT SAYS FUTURE DOOR.
SO. ARE WE REALLY LOOKING? YEAH, WHAT'S THIS? IS THIS A RENTAL THAT'S NOW GOING FROM A VERY SMALL THREE BEDROOM HOUSE WITH A BATHROOM THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONING ON THE ON THE TOP FLOOR TO A HOUSE WITH 5 TO 6 BEDROOMS? ANYWAY, THAT'S SORT OF QUESTIONING THAT TOO. IT'S SORT OF LIKE, WHY IS THERE A FUTURE PLAN FOR A FUTURE DOOR ON THE PLANS? SO, LIKE FULL DISCLOSURE, I WANT FULL DISCLOSURE.
IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE IT, TOO.
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON SHOULD THIS BE SHOULD THIS PROJECT GO FORWARD? AND THEN AT THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT THE LEMON TREE WOULD BE KEPT, BUT IS THAT GOING TO BE MOVED AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MOVE IT? IT'S AN OLDER TREE. IS IT REALLY GOING TO SURVIVE? SO AGAIN I'M GOING BACK TO NATURE AND THE PLANTS, AND THEN, WELL, AND I GARY BROUGHT UP THE PLUMBING LIKE, HOW IS THAT GOING TO GET RESOLVED? AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT FOR YOU GUYS. THAT'S FOR THE FOR ANOTHER, ANOTHER FOLKS TO THINK ABOUT, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND THE WANT TO MAKE 510 MORE FUNCTIONAL, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW BRUCE AND JANET RAISED A FAMILY THERE, BUT THEY DID, AND THEY RAISED GRANDCHILDREN THERE, BUT IT'S I KNOW HOW SMALL IT IS, AND THE PLAN SEEMS TO GO WAY BEYOND FUNCTION.
INCLUDING INCLUDING LOSING SOME OF THE CHARM OF THE HOUSE AND THE QUAINTNESS FROM GARNET STREET, AND YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT. I TOTALLY SUPPORT SOMETHING OVER THERE.
JUST NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PROPOSAL. OKAY.
THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I. SO I KNOW THIS ISN'T PART OF OUR PURVIEW, WHICH SHE MENTIONED, BUT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THAT CAME UP AND WERE HAD REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR OWN HOMES DURING THIS, LIKE, MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS POTENTIAL.
CAN YOU JUST TELL, LIKE DIRECT THEM, PERHAPS WHERE THEY CAN GET ANSWERS OR THOSE.
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO CONCERNS ABOUT THE FOUNDATION AND THINGS.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, IT DOES HAPPEN, AND YES, AND I MEAN, THERE'S ANY FOUNDATION, ALL THE ENGINEERING THAT'S GOING TO ACCOMPANY THIS WOULD BE BASED ON GEOTECHNICAL WORK. THAT'S AND STUDIES THAT ARE COMPLETED THAT WOULD IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SOIL COMPONENTS, ET CETERA, AND HOW THE FOUNDATION WOULD NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THAT'D BE THE, THE POINT OF THAT ADDITIONAL WORK.
SO THAT WOULD BE OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND WE COULD DEFINITELY DIRECT THEM TO SENIOR PLAN CHECK ENGINEER, ETC.. SO CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION? SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT DONE ON THIS CONSTRUCTION. I KNOW THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATES TAKES US OUT OF THAT CATEGORY, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES COMING OUT OF THIS CONSTRUCTION, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE FOUNDATION PLANS.
YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH PLAN CHECK. IT WOULD BE CONFIRMING IT MEETS BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS AND STRUCTURALLY THE PSI OF THE CEMENT THAT THEY POUR. RIGHT. IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
IT'S AN ENGINEERING ISSUE. I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S AS FAR AS THE FOUNDATION.
RIGHT. YES. WELL, YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE SEPTIC TANK.
THE SEPTIC LINE, THE TREES, THE FOUNDATION ISSUES.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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WITH. THESE WOULD NO CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ABLE TO OCCUR OVER, YOU KNOW, ANY ANY INFRASTRUCTURE FROM ANOTHER PROPERTY.I'M SURPRISED THEY'RE NOT DRAINING TO GARNET, BUT THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD COME OUT OF A SURVEY FOR THE PROPERTY AND ANY PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLUMBING WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
SO THAT'D BE DEALT WITH IT WOULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT UNLESS IF THERE WERE IN FACT LINES GOING ACROSS THIS PROPERTY, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD OVER THOSE LINES.
ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. IS THAT SO IT'S SPECULATIVE AT THIS POINT THAT THE ADDITION GOES OVER THE SEPTIC LINE? I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT. I THINK IS THERE A SURVEY IN THE PLAN SET AND.
YES. YEAH, AND IS THERE THERE IS A SURVEY BUT IT WOULDN'T SHOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND MAYBE THE ARCHITECT MIGHT HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS.
YEAH. THERE'S THE TERMINOLOGY HERE THAT'S MISLEADING.
YEAH. SEPTIC LINE REFERS TO IF YOU HAVE A SEPTIC TANK ON YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN REDONDO BEACH IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SEPTIC TANKS ON THEIR PROPERTY ANYMORE. RIGHT. SO YOU EITHER HAVE A SEWER CONNECTION, AND THAT SEWER CONNECTION SHOULD GO TO GARNETT.
SO, YEAH, THERE HAS TO BE LOOKED INTO. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A LINE, I MEAN, IS IT LIKE AN OLD CLAY PIPE LINE? IS IT PROPERLY. DOES IT WORK PROPERLY? ARE YOU PUTTING WASTE INTO SOMEONE'S YARD? I MEAN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION, BUT IF THERE'S NO EASEMENT ACROSS THAT PROPERTY, THERE SHOULD BE NO SEWER LINES GOING ACROSS THAT PROPERTY, AND CERTAINLY NOBODY SHOULD HAVE A SEPTIC TANK ANYMORE IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.
SO THAT'S CORRECT. IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE PRESENT, THEY'RE DISCONNECTED FROM THE SEWER LINE.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE FUNCTIONING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, TOO.
I'VE DEALT WITH THAT PROBLEM WHERE THERE'S, I'VE HAD A 1910 HOUSE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, AND THERE'S A SEPTIC TANK THAT WAS FROM LIKE GOD KNOWS WHEN AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LIKE WHEN THEY RAN SEWER LINES, THEY CAPPED THE SEPTIC TANK OFF, AND SO THERE MIGHT BE THE EXISTENCE OF A SEPTIC TANK, BUT IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING. NOT BE FUNCTIONING.
IS KIM DAVIDSON TALKED ABOUT THAT SHE WAS HAVING SEWAGE PROBLEMS WITH THAT TREE.
SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE IS A SEWAGE LINE THERE, AND THERE'S A SEPTIC TANK ON 514.
YES A TANK. OKAY. OKAY. IT DRAINS INTO THAT SEWER LINE THAT RUNS TO CAMINO REAL.
THAT DOES NOT RUN TO GARNET STREET. JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME.
SO THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? HI.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS TIFFANY MARKARIAN.
I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME AND FOR THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED THIS EVENING.
THIS IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST TIME AT A COMMISSION MEETING IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, AND I'M SO FASCINATED BY THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO, AND THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENING.
I DO HAVE SOME PREPARED REMARKS THAT I WILL THAT I'LL GET TO IN JUST ONE MOMENT.
AS A HOMEOWNER MYSELF IN REDONDO BEACH AND A RESIDENT IN THE SOUTH BAY FOR 25 YEARS HERE IN REDONDO FOR OVER NINE YEARS, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING KIM AND BECOMING DEAR FRIENDS.
WHEN SHE AND I MET WHEN OUR CHILDREN WERE KINDERGARTNERS AT BOROUGH HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THEY'RE NOW IN SEVENTH GRADE AT PARIS. I'M THINKING BACK TO THE TIME WHEN KIM PURCHASED THIS HOME AND MOVED IN, AND BECAUSE SO MUCH HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THIS COMMISSION THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE COMMISSION, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE RELEVANT TO SAY THAT THIS HOME WAS A SAFE HAVEN FOR HER, AND IT WAS THE FIRST THING SHE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE HISTORICAL VALUE, AND THE LETTER THAT I THINK HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WAS LEFT BY THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNER THAT SPOKE TO THE DEEP AND RICH HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, ONE THAT SHE IS WORKING VERY HARD TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE.
I DO FIND IT FASCINATING THAT SO MUCH IS BROUGHT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
AS I WAS GOING TO SAY, AS A HOMEOWNER MYSELF, I ACTUALLY ASKED MR.
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PRESCOTT, I SAID IF THIS WAS NOT A HISTORICAL PROPERTY, IF THIS WAS NOT IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC COMMISSION, HOW MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING RAISED WOULD ACTUALLY GO ANSWERED? HIS RESPONSE WAS NONE, AND SO I JUST WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IS IT MR. YOUSUFZAI? I'M SO SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. YOUSUFZAI.YOUSUFZAI? THANK YOU. I'M MARKARIAN. YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE SAY MARKARIAN OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR GRACE THERE, BUT JUST FOCUSING ON WHAT THE, THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUE AND QUESTION AT HAND FOR THIS COMMISSION IS AND OBVIOUSLY GRATEFUL TO THE STAFF OF THE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS PROPERTY AND, AND GETTING THE QUESTION APPROVED AND ADDRESSED, BUT I WILL GO TO MY PREPARED REMARKS AND JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I HAVE KNOWN KIM AND HER TWO WONDERFUL CHILDREN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, SO MANY OF OUR FRIENDS AND THE, THE CADRE OF SUPPORT THAT IS BEHIND KIM IN THIS PROJECT WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ON SPRING BREAK, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE AT PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETINGS AND HAVE TAKEN YOUR TIME TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT, AND THE LAST MEETING, ALL THE SUPPORTERS THAT STOOD UP FOCUSED MAINLY ON HOW THE PROPOSED RENOVATION PLANS KEEP THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOME AND HELP ENSURE THAT THE HOME IS SAFE AND VIABLE PLACE FOR KIM AND HER FAMILY IN THE FUTURE.
I CERTAINLY FELT THAT WAY AND AGAIN REITERATE THAT SENTIMENT.
I HAVE BEEN IN KIM'S HOME MANY TIMES AND HAVE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THESE PLANS.
I AM THANKFUL THAT SHE IS CHOOSING TO INVEST IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AS OPPOSED TO WHEREAS MANY WOULD PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY, DEMOLISH IT AND POTENTIALLY BUILD A MULTI-UNIT ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS UNIQUE GIVEN ITS SIZE AND SCOPE IN TERMS OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPERTY, AND SO IT DOES REALLY BEG THAT SO MANY OTHER THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, AND SHE'S TRULY INVESTED IN KEEPING ITS HISTORIC VALUE, AS IS EVIDENCED BY I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT HER HAVING PURCHASED THE HOME IN 2022. SHE HAD LOTS OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A VIABLE PROPERTY FOR HER.
WELL GUESS WHAT? THIS WAS A CONVERSATION SHE STARTED WITH MR. PRESCOTT IN 2022. SO THIS IS A LONG, LONG, LONG JOURNEY THAT WE'RE HOPING WE CAN CONCLUDE THIS EVENING.
SO ALONGSIDE THE CITY STAFF, I'M RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND TIME, AND I AND OTHERS HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION WILL VOTE TO APPROVE THE RENOVATION PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THESE HOMES REMAIN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
NO. YEAH. JUST ZONING REVIEW. SO ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS.
NOT BUILDING CODE REGULATIONS. OKAY. ZONING THEN.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THIS BLUE HOUSE AND THEIR GARAGE, AND TYPICALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO START MESSING WITH A STRUCTURE, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THE CITY WILL MAKE YOU MOVE STRUCTURES BACK OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
THAT WALKWAY LINE, AND I'M IT I'M JUST WOULD BE REALLY SURPRISED IF THE CITY IS LETTING THEM BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE THAT FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT EXISTING GARAGE.
YEAH. THERE'S NO NEW STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S THE SAME EXISTING ADU STRUCTURE WHICH IS GRANDFATHERED.
THE VARIANCE IS GRANDFATHERED. ARE WE LOOKING AT THE FRONT? YEAH. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT'S THE ADU IS KIND OF THAT PART ON THE RIGHT SIDE, AND THEN IT KIND OF JUTS IN, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE JET IN PART.
OH, YES, THERE IS, AND IT'S NO FURTHER. IT'S THE SAME AS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT'S THE SAME. YEAH, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE.
I'M SURPRISED THE CITY WOULD LET YOU PUT LIKE A STRUCTURE, A NEW STRUCTURE ON THAT PROPERTY LINE.
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WHAT'S THE DISTANCE OF IT NOW? GRANDFATHERED VARIANCE. I DON'T HAVE THAT SETBACK. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS IT SHOULD BE A SIX FOOT SETBACK.IT'S A SIX FOOT. YEAH. YEAH. ON THE WEST. I MEAN, ON THE EAST SIDE.
I THINK IT IS A SIX FOOT SETBACK. YEAH. SO IT MEETS THE SETBACKS.
STEPPING IT BACK, THE NEW PART, BACK TO CONFORM, TO CONFORM TO IT.
OKAY. SO IT IS IT DOES MEET THE SETBACK ON THAT SIDE.
THE PROPERTY LINE OF MY HOUSE IS LITERALLY LIKE ON KIMBERLY'S HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE RIGHT THERE. SO YEAH, THEY DON'T USUALLY LET YOU BUILD RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE THOUGH, RIGHT? THEY WON'T. IT'LL BE SET BACK SIX FEET.
SO IS THE GARAGE, BUT THE GARAGE IS NOT SET SIX FEET BACK FROM THAT BLUE HOUSE CURRENTLY IS IT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. WE'LL BLOW THAT UP.
BECAUSE THEN THERE'S A NEW THERE'S A NEW STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.
ZOOM IN ON THAT, THAT GARAGE JUST TO KIND OF GET US BACK ON TRACK.
WE ARE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE HEARING. YES.
OKAY. WE'RE NOT, AT THIS JUNCTURE SUPPOSED TO NECESSARILY GET INTO A DIALOG AND A DISCUSSION.
YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT BACK TO.
OKAY. OKAY. GOOD? YEAH. OKAY. I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS.
A COUPLE FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE SIZE. SO THE PROPOSAL IS AND AGAIN, I THINK THE SIZE IS NOT A PART OF THE MILLS CONSIDERATION, BUT I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THE ADUS.
RIGHT. THE PLAN IS THAT MY FATHER, WHO TURNS 80 TOMORROW, WILL LIVE IN THE ADU.
I HAVE RENTED THE ADU TO TRAVELING NURSES. THAT'S WHAT THE PERSON THAT LIVED IN THE HOUSE BEFORE ME DID, AND IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. SO THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN USING THE ADU FOR AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A SEPARATE STRUCTURE.
THE DOOR THAT I THINK SOME FOLKS SAW ON THE PLAN IT'S A THAT IS A WAY THAT YOU COULD CONNECT IT.
I THINK SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITION TO THE TOP OF THE GARAGE.
JUST TO BE SUPER CLEAR, THE ADDITION IS NOT ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AT ALL.
THE FOUNDATION. SO WHEN I BOUGHT THIS HOME, I DID AN INSPECTION AND IT WAS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT I REINFORCE THE FOUNDATION INITIALLY BEFORE I EVEN MOVED INTO THE HOME AS IT IS. SO IT IS DIRE THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD REINFORCE THE FOUNDATION IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THIS RENOVATION.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOME BEFORE I ACTUALLY SIGNED ON IT, MILES CAME TO THE HOUSE.
AS A HISTORIC ARCHITECT. SO IT HAS BEEN MY INTENTION EVER SINCE I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLAN TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS HOUSE EVER SINCE I BOUGHT IT, TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. SO I SPOKE WITH YOU GUYS LAST TIME, I THINK I REMEMBER THE MAJORITY OF YOU WERE HERE. COMMISSIONER LANG, I KNOW YOU WERE NOT.
SO APOLOGIES FOR SOME OF THE BACKGROUND THAT I GAVE BEFORE, BUT I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN THE LAST MEETING SHARING ABOUT THE CHALLENGING CONDITION OF THE HOME. I WON'T BELABOR THE DETAILS, BUT I'LL REMIND YOU AND REITERATE SOME OF THE REALITIES THAT EXIST WITH THE HOME.
THE FOUNDATION WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE SAGGING FLOORS AND UNEVEN STAIRWAY.
THE PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES AND THE SHEER LACK OF SPACE.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE LAST MEETING WE MADE, AND BASED ON THE MINUTES AND THE THAT WERE RECORDED, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT.
IT WAS THE ROOFTOP DECK. WE HAVE MODIFIED THE ROOFTOP DECK SIGNIFICANTLY.
REMOVED ALL OF THE VISIBILITY OF IT FROM THE FRONT AND THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THE SECOND ITEM WAS THE OFFICE AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WE'VE MOVED BACK AND WRAPPED MORE AROUND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE WINDOWS. I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP THE WINDOWS, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ADDED.
THOUGH NOT ONE OF THE NOT WITH THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS. OKAY, SO WHEN I PURCHASED THIS HOME, I IMMEDIATELY FOUND AN ARCHITECT THAT I KNEW CARED ABOUT HISTORIC HOMES AND HAD EXPERIENCE IN HISTORIC RENOVATIONS.
MILES EVEN SERVED ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION HERE IN REDONDO.
WE HAVE SPENT THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS DESIGNING A HOME THAT CELEBRATES THE HISTORY OF THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO PROVIDES THE SPACE NEEDED TO SUPPORT A FAMILY.
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OUR RULE BOOK, IF YOU WILL, IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATION.SO THAT IS APPROPRIATENESS, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BASING OUR DECISION ON.
ULTIMATELY, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLED TO ABIDE BY TO RENOVATE A MILLS HOME, AND SO FOR THE SECOND TIME, THE CITY STAFF IS SAYING THAT WE ARE MEETING THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THE PROPOSED RENOVATION AT 510.
GARNETT, TO ENSURE THAT THIS HOME IS AROUND FOR ANOTHER 125 YEARS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? HI, MY NAME IS BRETT ANDERSON, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSE AT 510 GARNETT.
HOWEVER, IT'S GREAT TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL ASPECT, THOUGH, THAT I THINK HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET, AND I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT, AND THIS IS REALLY COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT PROPERTY VALUES IN THE SOUTH BAY ARE EXTREMELY HIGH, AND WE SEE ALL THE TIME HOMES BEING TORN DOWN AND SOMETHING NEW BEING BUILT IN ITS PLACE.
KIM IS DOING EVERYTHING THAT SHE CAN TO AVOID THAT HAPPENING TO THIS PROPERTY, AND SO I HOPE YOU SEE THAT WITH THE CARE THAT SHE'S BEEN SHE HAS TAKEN IN HIRING THIS ARCHITECT AND WORKING FOR THIS EXTENSIVE LENGTH OF TIME, WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THIS, I THINK, WONDERFUL DESIGN THAT DOES MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THIS HOUSE.
THE REALITY IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A C RATED HOME.
IT'S A C RATED STRUCTURE. IT'S ON AN OVERSIZE CORNER LOT, AND IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR R-3, WHICH IS MULTIFAMILY. IT'S THREE BLOCKS FROM THE BEACH, THREE BLOCKS FROM THE PIER.
THE ECONOMIC ISSUE IS THAT THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE HOUSE ITSELF, IS ON THE TAX ROLLS FOR $25,000. THAT'S WHAT THAT HOUSE IS VALUED AT TODAY.
THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM BECAUSE ALL THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, IS IN THE DIRT. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LAND. THAT'S WHY HOUSES GET TORN DOWN IN THE SOUTH BAY, BECAUSE THE VALUES IN THE DIRT. SO KIM HAS BEEN CONTACTED MANY TIMES BY DEVELOPERS INQUIRING ABOUT THIS LOT. THEY ALL SEE THIS.
THEY KNOW THAT HOUSE HAS VERY LITTLE ECONOMIC VALUE.
TONS OF HISTORIC VALUE, LITTLE ECONOMIC VALUE.
THEY KNOW THE LOCATION. IT'S A BIG LOT ON A CORNER.
IT'S A GREAT PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED AND IT'S ZONED R-3.
SO IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT SOMEONE COULD BUY THIS PROPERTY AND TURN IT INTO MULTI-FAMILY ON THAT CORNER, WHICH WOULD BE HORRIBLE. THAT IS NOT WHAT ANY OF US, I THINK, IN THIS ROOM WANT.
MY WHOLE POINT IN BRINGING THIS UP IS TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMON GROUND FOUND.
WHERE THESE HISTORIC HOMES CAN BE MODIFIED AND RENOVATED TO MEET TODAY'S NEEDS FOR FAMILIES, AND ALSO BRING THEM UP TO CURRENT CURRENT CONDITIONS MAKING SURE THEY'RE WELL BUILT AND WELL MAINTAINED. IT'S THE HOUSE VALUE THAT ULTIMATELY WILL KEEP A DEVELOPER AWAY FROM THIS LOT, AND SO I THINK HAVING A HOMEOWNER LIKE KIM COME FORWARD AND SAY SHE WANTS TO INVEST IN THIS PROPERTY SIGNIFICANTLY AND TO MAINTAIN THIS HOME, THAT IS WHAT WILL KEEP DEVELOPERS AWAY FROM PROPERTIES LIKE THIS.
SO I HOPE I URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ANYBODY ONLINE? THERE ARE NO E-COMMENTS OR ATTENDEES.
ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.
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NOW, I BELIEVE WE MOVED TO DISCUSSIONS AMONGST THE COMMISSION.COMMISSIONER MAROKO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? NO, I'D LIKE TO GO LAST.
COMMISSIONER LANG. I'LL WAIT. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WE GOT TO MAKE MOVES.
SO I'LL GO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT A HOMOGENEOUS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE HOUSES LOOK DIFFERENT. ABOUT HALF OF THEM PROBABLY HAVE THE ORIGINAL LOOK.
THE OTHER HALF HAVE BEEN RENOVATED. SIMILAR TO 510 .
YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE PRECEDENTS? YES, WE HAVE PRECEDENTS.
OUT OF 17 HOUSES ON THE 500 BLOCK, FOUR HAVE CURRENT SECOND STORY ADDITIONS.
SO WE HAVE PRECEDENTS IN WE HAVE A LEGAL PRECEDENTS OR A PRECEDENTS IN ALTERATIONS.
THE FOUR HOUSES THAT HAVE TWO STORIES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, 505, THE BIG GREEN STRUCTURE, WHICH IS IT LOOKS LARGER THAN IT IS. IT'S 2000FT², BUT IT LOOKS HUGE.
SO I DON'T THAT HOUSE DOESN'T QUITE FIT THE ORIGINAL SCHEME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT? BUT THE CHANGES WERE MADE, RIGHT. IT'S A RELATIVELY BUSY STREET.
IT'S KIND OF WIDE. IT'S NOT A SLEEPY STREET, PARALLELS, TORRENTS AND YOU GET TRAFFIC COMING DOWN FROM PROSPECT, SO IT'S NOT AN EASY WALK. NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
I DON'T SEE THE GARAGE STRUCTURE AS BEING THAT COMMON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU KNOW, 510 HAS A GARAGE. I THINK 512 HAS A GARAGE. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF 501 DOESN'T HAVE A GARAGE STRUCTURE ON THE FRONT, SO I DON'T SEE TOO MANY GARAGE STRUCTURES.
I WOULD I WOULD VOTE NO FOR THIS IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS HOMOGENOUS AND THEY ALL HAD A BUNGALOW STYLE, BUT THEY DON'T. I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO DENY SOMEONE'S FREEDOM TO IMPROVE YOUR LIFE.
THAT'S NOT. THAT'S NOT MY JOB. THAT'S NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR JOB. SO I THINK THAT THE POSITIVE POSITIVES OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVES IN THIS CASE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RENOVATION. SO THAT'S MY COLD ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS WERE WERE BROUGHT UP THAT I, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT LIKE THE EXCLAMATION POINT, ONE OF THEM BEING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE PRESENTED WITH THIS YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANS LAST, LAST MONTH.
WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE ADU UNLESS I MISSED IT COMPLETELY.
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE.
I THOUGHT THAT THE GARAGE WAS BEING USED AS A GARAGE, NOT AS LIVING SPACES.
SO TO ME, THAT WAS AN EXCLAMATION POINT. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS BODY HAS ANY AUTHORITY OVER IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS A QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THE ADDITION, DOES IT GO OVER SEWER LINES, SEPTIC LINES, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW I WOULD WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPACT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE AS A BODY HAVE PURVIEW OVER THAT OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PLANNING AND ZONING THEN LOOKS INTO BUT I WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT I'M NOT DOING SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, IF IF IF I WERE TO VOTE YES TO THIS PROJECT I'D WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS WHAT? WHAT DID HAPPEN TO THE CHIMNEY? WHERE IS THE LITTLE COPPER POT? ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THAT? YES. NO INTENT TO REMOVE THE COPPER POT, AND THEN IS THERE IS IT TRUE THAT YOU'RE REMOVING ADDITIONAL WINDOWS ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE? HISTORIC WINDOWS, I DON'T. CAN WE SPEAK IF WE DON'T OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN?
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THAT IS CORRECT. YES, DISCUSSION. YES. JUST GOT TO BE AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS.WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN CALLED OUT.
DO WE WANT TO. CAN I GET AN ANSWER TO THAT THEN DO I WANT TO OPEN UP THE.
YEAH T HE LAST ITEM I CANNOT. I'M SORRY. I WAS CONSULTING WITH THE SENIOR PLANNER, I.
THE ISSUE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR SEWER LINES OR SEPTIC, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A CONDITION ON THIS THAT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED, AND THEN ADDRESSED SO THAT IT IS NOT AN IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD SOMETHING THAT WOULD SAFEGUARD THE NEIGHBORS IF THERE IS SOME SEWER ADJACENT OR THROUGH THE PROPERTY OR SEPTIC OR WHATEVER THAT CASE MAY BE, AND THEN THE THIRD, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T HEAR.
I WAS ASKING ABOUT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE SOME WINDOWS ON THE I THINK IT WAS THE WEST ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE THAT WERE TO BE REMOVED, AND IS THAT IS THAT TRUE? I DON'T KNOW, ON THE WEST SIDE GROUND FLOOR THEY WOULD BE REMOVED AND THEN ADDED ON THE END.
OKAY. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING AWAY. THEY'RE NOT.
LET ME JUST MAKE SURE MY NOTES HERE ONE SECOND.
OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT.
MY WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
IS A UNIQUE AREA. WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE IN REDONDO OF THOSE, THAT NUMBER OF HISTORIC HOMES, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS, AND I'VE SAID THIS AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A COMPLETE REMODEL, AND THAT WAS BEFORE I KNEW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN A NEW FOUNDATION, WHICH MAY CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT COMPLETELY.
I DON'T MY NOTE HERE SAYS YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE THE OLD FROM THE NEW SO THAT IF YOU NEEDED TO TEAR IT DOWN, YOU COULD, BUT IS IT REALLY A DIFFERENTIAL WITH WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE ON THIS SEEMS IF YOU'RE TAKING THE FOUNDATION GRANTED YOU'RE RIPPING UP THE GUTS OF THE HOUSE FOR THE PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AND BRINGING IT UP TO STANDARD BUT YOU'RE ALSO, IT LOOKS LIKE ESSENTIALLY CHANGING THE OUTSIDE STRUCTURE AS WELL, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY NECESSARILY EVEN GOING TO BE USING THE SAME KIND OF LUMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T GET THAT. THAT FUZZY FEELING WITH IT.
I THINK IT'S AT THIS POINT PREMATURE TO BRING IT WITH ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT DO NEED ANSWERS, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE FOR US TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
I DO KNOW THAT IF WE VOTE NO, THAT THERE IS APPELLATE RIGHTS TO EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A BRAND NEW HOME THAT'S NOT MAINTAINING ANY OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ORIGINAL HOME, AND IT BASED ON WHAT I HEARD TODAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS BOUGHT WITH THE INTENTION OF MAKING ALL THESE CHANGES WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT. SO I, I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. SO ANDREW'S REPORT WAS REALLY THOROUGH, AND I TRUST HIS ANALYSIS. SO IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS WITH A FEW OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON THE PODIUM HERE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S KIND OF UNIFORM MASSING BETWEEN THEM.
THIS ONE SITS REALLY CLOSE TO THE OTHER HOUSE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING IT OUT ON BOTH SIDES, AND I DO THINK THAT THE, THE HISTORICAL COMPONENT IN THE MIDDLE IS GOING TO GET LOST IN THAT, IN THOSE TWO ADDITIONS. WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO I THINK IT MAY BE UNCLEAR WHICH SIDE IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE,
[02:30:04]
ESSENTIALLY. I THINK SEEING THE SIDE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE HELPFUL AND GETTING SOME OF THESE OTHER QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND . YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S HARD BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BUILDING UP TO THIS SIDE YARD. IT IT'S SOMEONE'S SIDE YARD. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY IN OUR PURVIEW.IT'S MORE IN PLANNING, BUT IT AFFECTS THE WAY THIS WHOLE THING LOOKS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NEW. SO, ANYWAY YEAH, I HAVE CONCERNS, BUT I COULD ADDRESS IT.
IT DOES MEET THE SETBACKS. THE ISSUE IS THE PROPERTY LINE IS ACTUALLY SITTING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, RIGHT ON THE, I MEAN, THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE.
SO THAT PL BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES IS RIGHT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE OTHER HOUSE NEXT DOOR, AND SO THIS HOUSE IS SET BACK OR SET AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE BY SIX FEET.
SO IT DEFINITELY MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT UP AGAINST IT, AND SOMETIMES THEY CONSIDER THE OTHER HOMEOWNER WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW AND I THINK THEY DID. THERE WAS NUMEROUS MEETINGS THE APPLICANT AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, THEY TALKED ABOUT WINDOW PLACEMENT, ET CETERA, AND THERE HAS BEEN A WINDOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ADDED OR OR REMOVED THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE AS A RESULT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE ABOUT NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK I CAN APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTARY ON, YOU KNOW, THIS PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, HEARING ITEM. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THIS.
SOME OF THEM ARE NEW OPINIONS THAT WEREN'T KIND OF PRESENTED AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING OF THIS.
I THINK MY TAKEAWAY INITIALLY IS, IS THAT I DO THINK WHAT THE COMMISSION HAD MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO DURING THE FEBRUARY MEETING, THE ARCHITECT AND THE HOMEOWNER AND THE APPLICANT DID DO WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ADVISED THEM TO DO IN TERMS OF WHICH CORRECTIONS TO MAKE.
SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET ESPECIALLY AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, I DON'T WANT TO GET TO A POSITION WHERE WE'RE WE'RE ADVISING TO MAKE REVISIONS, AND WE COME BACK AND WE HAVE A NEW SERIES OF THINGS.
WE ARE I WOULD RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WE ARE ENTITLED TO ASK ADDITIONAL THINGS.
IF THEY COME UP, NEW THINGS COME UP ALL THE TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE HOMEOWNER AND THE ARCHITECT DID MAKE THE REVISIONS, AS WE HAD REQUESTED AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE CHANGES TO ANYTHING AS TIME, MONEY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COST OF MATERIALS THESE DAYS, DELAYING TIME, BUILDING MATERIAL COST TO BUILD GOES UP.
I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT AND REINSTATE THIS POSITION.
I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THESE THINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY.
I'VE HEARD QUESTIONS ABOUT. IT FEELS I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN OPERATE ON A FEELING.
THERE IS AN EMPIRICAL RULE REGULATION. DOES IT MEET IT OR DOES IT NOT? AND I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE OUR COMMISSION TO OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT THINGS.
RIGHT, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENIALS OF STUFF, I THINK THERE'S A THRESHOLD THAT CAN BE MET OR NOT, AND SOME OF THAT MIGHT GO INTO THE GUISE OF SUBJECTIVITY, BUT THERE IS AN EMPIRICAL THING WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLYING WITH THE MILLS ACT.
CORRECT. GALVANIZED. YOU KNOW, PIPES AREN'T USED TODAY.
PEOPLE USE PEX FOR PLUMBING. THIS IS A MODERN YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT IN ENGINEERING.
WE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IT NEEDS TO BE TO THAT LEVEL.
WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FOUNDATION.
IT'S VERY COMMON TO JACK UP A HOUSE, REINFORCE THE CONCRETE ON A STILT, HAVE IT SUPPORTED WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE REQUISITE PSI CEMENT, AND THEN FOR US, IT SOUNDS SUPER SCARY.
IT IS A VERY SIMPLE THING FOR A FOUNDATION TEAM OR A CONCRETE TEAM.
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FOR THE APPLICANT. I DO THINK THAT BASED ON WHAT WE HAD SAID, I DO THINK THAT WE MET THE THRESHOLD TO QUALIFY FOR THE MILLS ACT, AND THAT'S MY OPINION. NOW, AGAIN, THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT I DO THINK THAT BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND THE LETTER OF WHAT THE CRITERIA STATES TO QUALIFY FOR IT, AGAIN, WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMISSION.A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED ARE THINGS THAT THE ENGINEER WOULD GO THROUGH, THE PLAN CHECK TEAMS WOULD GO THROUGH. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE.
I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT PLAN CHECKS, ENGINEERING.
ALL I CAN TALK ABOUT IS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND IF THEY MEET THE MILLS ACT REQUIREMENTS AS THE PURVIEW OF OUR COMMISSION, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT PERHAPS COULD BE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHO MIGHT HAVE A MORE PURVIEW OVER ITEMS LIKE THIS OR BUILDING.
I DID HEAR CERTAIN QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DEMO. THERE IS USUALLY A DEMOLITION PLAN SUBMITTED WHEN IT GETS THROUGH PLAN CHECK AND BEFORE PERMITS ARE PULLED. ALL OF THIS STUFF IS BUILT INTO THE TO THE PROCESS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A THRESHOLD THAT CAN BE MET AS IT PERTAINS TO, DOES THIS QUALIFY FOR THE MILLS ACT OR NOT? AND I THINK THAT FEELINGS AND STUFF IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIZE, THAT'S AN EMPIRICAL THING. CAN IT BE MET OR NOT? THERE'S NO THRESHOLD. WHAT IS OUR PURVIEW ON IT IF THERE'S NO THRESHOLD? IT CAN I SUBJECTIVELY SAY, YEAH, I DON'T LIKE HOW IT LOOKS, BUT TO OUTRIGHT SAY, I'M GOING TO DENY SOMEBODY OVER HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT EMPIRICALLY, YOU CAN MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE, I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, EVERY PERSON ON THIS COMMISSION HAS THEIR OWN OPINION ABOUT STUFF THEY'RE ENTITLED TO.
WE ALL ARE, BUT I REALLY WANT TO REITERATE THE POINT THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DOES IT QUALIFY FOR THE MILLS ACT? DID IT GO THROUGH THE CITY STAFF APPROVAL? DID WE ALREADY GIVE A REVISION THAT, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THE ARCHITECT AND THE HOMEOWNER COMPLIED WITH.
I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT TO THE COMMISSION.
SO THAT'S MY PEACE WITH IT. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. I'M GOING BY A CITY PUBLICATION, AND WHAT I SEE IS THE MILLS ACT.
DOES IT QUALIFY FOR THE MILLS ACT? DOES IT QUALIFY FOR THE CONTRACT FOR A PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION? EVERYTHING ELSE IS DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR. THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO THE QUESTION I'M TRYING TO REFRAME YOUR QUESTION FROM DOES IT QUALIFY FOR THE MILLS ACT? DOES IT QUALIFY FOR THE ALLOWANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING? IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUESTION. IF WE APPROVE IT OR DON'T APPROVE IT, THE HOUSE IS STILL, AT THIS POINT IN A TEN YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE MILLS ACT PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REALLY GREAT SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME AND SPEAK ON SOME, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH THIS BUILD THAT THEY HAVE, AND IF WE CAN DIRECT THEM TO PLANNING OR OTHER RESOURCES TO GET THEIR ANSWERS, THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, I THINK THAT'S THAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS COMMISSION.
SO I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS IN BLACK AND WHITE TERMS, BUT YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT.
NOBODY HERE IS REALLY AN EXPERT. SO WE DO DEFER TO THE STAFF BUT WE DO HAVE A JOB TO DO, AND IT WOULD BE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS ARE HEARD, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE ALL WERE ABLE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, MAYBE ON BEHALF OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC AND THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SHALL WE TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A VOTE? SOMEBODY.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO USUALLY READS THE RESOLUTION.
SO I READ THE RESOLUTIONS. YOU ALL LOOKING AT ME? GO FOR IT. I FEEL I'M IN THE HOT SEAT RIGHT NOW.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL CONDITION.
BEING THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT THE SITUATION WITH THE WITH THESE SEWER LINES BE EXAMINED, FULLY EXAMINED. SO LET ME FIND THE WHERE ARE WE? HERE? OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH,
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APPROVING AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN ADDITION TO THE DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTY LOCATED AT 510 GARNET STREET, PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.SO JUST SO BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, JUST SO I'M CLEAR.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU VOTE TO APPROVE IT CONDITIONALLY WITH THE REVIEW OF THE DEMO PLAN OR IT WOULD BE THE REVIEW REQUIRE THE POTENTIAL--REQUIRE THAT A, THE POTENTIAL FOR A SEWER LINE OR A SEWER LINE INVESTIGATION OR SEWER INVESTIGATION FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES BE BE CONDUCTED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
CORRECT. WELL, I FEEL THAT THE I FEEL YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME WERE ADDRESSED.
DO I FEEL. I HATE TO USE THAT WORD, FEEL. DO I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALTERING THE LOOK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I STILL BELIEVE THAT, BUT THERE WAS A THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK MAKE SENSE TO ME, AND I WOULD HATE FOR THE APPLICANT TO DECIDE TO REMOVE THE HOUSE FROM THE HISTORIC REGISTRY, AND , YOU KNOW, SELL THE LAND. THAT WOULD BE A BAD THING FOR REDONDO.
WE HAVE A VOTE ON THE TABLE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO I'LL SECOND AND WE'LL GO TO A VOTE.
OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. NO. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM K ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS.
DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS, I THINK.
WE'RE AT L TWO. WE HAVE NO ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS.
[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
OH, COMMISSIONER MAROKO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN? YEAH. DID WE EVEN GET THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON OUR PACKET? IT, YEAH, IT WAS LIKE NO PUBLIC AMENITY ELEMENTS THAT I THOUGHT THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT INVOLVED THE LIBRARY. WELL, TWO INVOLVED THE LIBRARY. ONE INVOLVED A LIBRARY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES.THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE WANTING TO WORK ON, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO ANY SORT OF SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
OR WE COULD ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AND IDENTIFIED.
THOSE WOULD BE UNDER STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM SIX SUB NUMBER TEN, AND THEN STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM NUMBER THREE, SUBSECTION FOUR. ONE OF THOSE HAS TO DO WITH THE LIBRARY EXAMINING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STEM PROJECTS, THE LIBRARY, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPLORING WITH THE VACANT YOUTH SERVICES LIBRARIAN, THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, BUT WE CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE OPPORTUNITIES. THE OTHER ONE YOU KNOW, I CAN ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, BUT THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS ALSO A JOINT PROJECT WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES SINCE IT INVOLVES THE LIBRARY AND HISTORICAL AND I CAN GET TO THAT ONE REALLY QUICK.
THAT'S 610, WHICH WAS OH. I'M SORRY. THREE, FOUR.
THAT IS DEVELOP EXPERIENCES TO ENGAGE THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES, WHICH I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY BEGUN ADDRESSING BY CREATING THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON BRINGING THE HISTORY TO COMMUNITY.
THERE'S SOME DETAILS IN THERE, BUT WE ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS THAT STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM, AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHT DEADLINE IN THAT C OUNCIL IS MEETING ON APRIL 29TH TO REVIEW THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT ALSO I WANT TO SAY THAT IN INCLUDING IT COMMISSION IS CERTAINLY WELCOME TO EITHER SUPPLY
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LIAISONS WITH DIRECT INPUT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR COUNCIL OR ANY OF THE ELECTEDS, IF THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST OR DESIRE TO SEE SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD OR SOMETHING AUGMENTED. SO GOAL THREE, NUMBER FIVE WITH THE HISTORICAL RESOURCES SERVICE. I KNOW WE TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT IT ALREADY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD KEEP ON OUR RADAR AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR WILL KEEP IT ON HIS RADAR AS WELL.YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INPUT? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
I THINK IF I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET BEFORE THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS ARE DUE, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN REACH OUT.
WE APPRECIATE THAT, AND MY I THINK I REFLECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WILL CHANGE AND WILL BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTARY AND INPUT AND WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE JUST BEFORE WE MOVE OFF OFFICIALLY FROM L TWO.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO L3 COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW AND PROJECT UPDATES.
SURE. SO I DID SUBMIT AS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM, BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE REPORT, AND WITH THE CITY MANAGER HERE, WE DISCUSSED THE TIMING OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
JACK'S STILL HERE, SO WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS WITH THE MARKERS.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE GETTING THEM TO JACK TO REVIEW BEFORE THE HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, BUT WE'LL WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU GUYS AS SOON AS WE CAN.
ANYTHING FROM MINOR ALTERATION. COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY IS NOT HERE TONIGHT FOR THE I'M FORGETTING THE FACILITIES FOR THE FACILITIES. THE FACILITY USER SUBCOMMITTEE. YEAH.
OH, DO WE? I MEAN, WE HAVE THE FLYERS . I GUESS WE SHOULD JUST JUST TELL US WHAT WE'VE DONE.
I MEAN, WE'RE SHOPPING. WE'RE LOOKING FOR VENDORS FOR THINGS.
YEAH, A DATE IS WHAT? IT'S IN A FEW WEEKS. YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S A COUPLE WEEKS. WE'VE GOT VENDORS LINED UP FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
TALK TO JACK OFFLINE ABOUT THE STILT WALKER, BUT WE'VE GOT THINGS UNDERWAY.
IT SHOULD BE FUN. WE HAVE A WHOLE STACK RIGHT THERE.
OH, THERE YOU GO. YEAH. YEAH, WE'VE DONE SOME WORK.
IT SOUNDS LIKE FUN. BE MY FIRST TIME TO BE THERE, SO IT'LL BE GREAT.
DO YOU KNOW, JACK, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT FLYER COMING OUT OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR THE SAME ARTWORK? OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THEY ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE SAME ARTWORK, AND THEN THEY WILL BASE THEIRS ON THAT. I DID SEND THEM THIS TO CHRISTINA. OKAY, AND DO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE MAYOR TO COME DOWN TO THE BIRTHDAY PARTY AND ADDRESS? NO, WE JUST MADE THAT REQUEST TODAY, SO I'VE NOT YET HEARD BACK.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN DO WE EXPECT. I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK, I GUESS.
KELLY, WHEN DO WE EXPECT THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR FRANKLIN PARK TO BEGIN WORKING? SO FOR THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, I KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THAT REINVIGORATED WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.
SO YOU SHOULD HEAR FROM US PRETTY SOON, AT LEAST ON SCHEDULING SOME POTENTIAL MEETING DATES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. DID YOU SAY THAT WAS FOR FRANKLIN PARK? YEAH, FRANKLIN PARK. CAN I JUST GET A CONFIRMATION WHO'S ON THE FRANKLIN PARK PLAYGROUND SUBCOMMITTEE? BECAUSE I COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY GAVE ME A SPOT AT THE LAST MEETING, AND IT SAYS CALDWELL AND YOUSUFZAI.
IS THAT WHO'S ON IT? IT'S ON THERE. IT WAS. IT WAS ACTUALLY VOTED AS A SUBSTITUTION.
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SO IT'S IN THE MINUTES FOR MARCH. YEAH, AND IN MY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT IT SAYS COMMISSIONERS LANG CALDWELL AND CHAIR YOUSUFZAI.OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT ON IT? NO, I SHOULD BE ON IT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IT A MAXIMUM OF THREE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE.
I CAN I CAN REMOVE MYSELF FOR THE FRANKLIN PARK SUBCOMMITTEE.
RIGHT. YEAH. I CAN REMOVE MYSELF FROM THAT. OKAY, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE, AND IF IT'S.
THANK YOU. I DID HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION REGARDING SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES.
I KNOW WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. YEAH, I'M GLAD I DID. THANK YOU.
YES. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, COUNCIL IS WORKING ON REVISING THE RULES OF ORDER FOR MEETINGS, AND THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN COMMISSION. SO THEN, AS FAR AS THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BYLAWS, I THINK THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN COMMISSION BYLAWS MOVING FORWARD. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MOVEMENT ON THAT UNTIL COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE TO APPROVE THOSE RULES.
SO AS SOON AS THAT PROGRESSES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE UPDATES FOR YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT SO THE FACILITIES USER SUBCOMMITTEE I WAS ON THAT PREVIOUSLY, I THOUGHT I WAS ON IT AGAIN, BUT NOW IT'S MCCAULEY GALASSI, AND NO, I WAS NOT ON OKAY, SO I THINK IT'S ME.
SO JUST MAKE THAT NOTE, TOO. SO I'M ON FACILITIES.
IT'S NOT COMMISSIONER GALASSI. RIGHT. I THINK THEY'RE MIXING US UP.
YEAH, I THINK THEY ARE, TOO, JUST THE TWO FEMALES.
YEAH, WE CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
WE'LL CORRECT THAT. YEAH, AND WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH.
SO YEAH WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS UPDATED. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THE BIRTHDAY DISCUSSION I'LL TEST THE AUDIO VISUAL ACUITY ZOOM ON THIS.
SO REAL QUICK WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FACE PAINTER, A BALLOON ARTIST.
I'VE GOT A CONTRACT. OH, OKAY. THE CONTRACT IS EXECUTED.
YEAH, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE STILT WALKER. WE'VE GOT SNACKS AND REFRESHMENTS.
SO WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS. WE WERE BOTH MISSING LAST .
GOOD TO GO. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT ENTERTAINMENT.
WE'VE GOT POPCORN, SNACKS AND CHILDREN. THAT'S ALL WE NEED.
WE ALSO HAVE INFORMATION TABLES FROM THIS HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHO IS ALSO PROVIDING THE CAKE, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL BE MANNING A TABLE TALKING ABOUT OFFERINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AND I BELIEVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS GOING TO COME AND MAN A TABLE THE LIBRARY.
DON'T FORGET THE LIBRARY. YEAH. SHOULD BE THERE, OF COURSE, FIRE TRUCKS AND POLICE OFFICERS.
ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
NICE. YES. AS A MATTER OF FORMALITY, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT.
OKAY. YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? I THOUGHT I JUST DID.
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN AND THE ORAL REPORTS.
OKAY. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.
[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]
MOVING ON TO ITEM M ITEMS FROM STAFF. ANYTHING? KELLY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. JUST ONE THING THAT I KEEP FORGETTING TO MENTION.EVERY MEETING. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, PLEASE SIGN UP FOR THE LIBRARY NEWSLETTER. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND KEEP UPDATED ON LIBRARY EVENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM N COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.
[N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]
COMMISSIONER MAROKO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? I HAVE NO OTHER TOPICS.IT'S ALL IN THE REPORT, AND WHEN THE STAFF SETS IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING ONE OF OUR SOME OF OUR LIBRARY STAFF TO COME IN AND PRESENT ON THEIR FUNCTIONS SPECIFICALLY AMY FELLER WILL COME BACK TO A FUTURE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE LIBRARY PROGRAMING, AND ALSO ONE OF OUR LIBRARIANS WILL BE COMING BACK TO SPEAK ABOUT ALL OF OUR E-RESOURCES AND ONLINE DATABASES AND HOW THE COLLECTIONS ARE DEVELOPED AND BROUGHT BACK.
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SO THANK YOU, AND THE SUMMER BOOK PROGRAM TO SUMMER READING.ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. THAT'S KIND OF FUN.
COMMISSIONER LANG NOTHING NEW, BUT I WILL SAY AGAIN, IT WOULD MAYBE BE NICE IF WE GOT PUBLIC WORKS OUT AT THE BATHROOMS AT ALTA VISTA.
THEY'RE HEAVILY USED AND THERE'S NEVER ANY SOAP OR ANYTHING, AND THEY'RE JUST.
YEAH. EVEN IF MAYBE THE SOAP, THEY PUT IT IN THE SNACK SHACK AND THE PARENTS COULD PUT IT REFRESH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT ANYTHING TO HELP.
YEAH, I KNOW THERE'S USUALLY A SPECIAL KEY THAT GOES WITH IT.
THANK YOU. NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LANG, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN AGENDIZING LOOKING AT THAT STRIP OF LAND THERE AT AVIATION PARK FOR THE NORTH REDONDO COMMUNITY GARDEN? YES, I WOULD LOVE TO. IT'S ON MY LIST, BUT I CAN I CAN ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.
ARE YOU WANTING ME TO COME BACK WITH FEEDBACK FOR THE COMMISSION? IS THAT. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING? YEAH. WELL, I'D LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW , SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION AND YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR BODY.
OKAY, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD.
YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD SUGGESTION.
AVIATION PARK. SO MAYBE YOU CAN POINT OUT. I THINK I KNOW WHICH AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YEAH, IT'S BETWEEN AVIATION BOULEVARD ITSELF AND THE TRACK.
SO IT'S THAT NARROW STRIP OF LAND WHERE ORIGINALLY IT WAS IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO A ROW OF PICKLEBALL COURTS THERE, BUT WAS IT REALLY WASN'T AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, HOWEVER, BECAUSE YOU HAD TO TAKE OUT ALL THE TREES, YOU KNOW, GOOD SPACE FOR A COMMUNITY GARDEN BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHT.
OKAY. YOU WANT ME TO REQUEST WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? IS THAT WHAT OR YOU JUST WANT ME TO DO? I DO.
I REQUEST THAT EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A REQUEST THEN.
HOW'S THAT? OKAY. DO YOU VOTE? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING FOR FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
THE ONLY THING I DID WANT TO SAY KELLY, IS TO THE STAFF AT ALTA VISTA.
ACTUALLY, WE HAD A FAMILY FUNCTION, I THINK THE THIRD WEEK OF FEBRUARY THERE.
I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING TO THANK YOU, BUT THE ALTA VISTA STAFF WERE EXCELLENT FOR IT.
LIKE, THEY WERE SUPER RESPONSIVE FOR EVERYTHING.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE CAN PLAN THINGS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR THE PICNIC SHELTER, AND LIKE THAT HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES TO WHERE PEOPLE IN THE PARTY WERE LITERALLY LIKE, MASOOD. I THINK THEY KEEP WANTING TO ASK YOU, LIKE, WHO DO YOU SPEAK WITH? SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXCELLENT. THE STAFF WERE SUPER HELPFUL FOR EVERYTHING, AND YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BATHROOM STUFF, BUT THEY WERE EXCELLENT.
WELL THANK YOU. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD SUCH A GOOD EXPERIENCE, AND I'LL DEFINITELY SHARE IT WITH THE TEAM. YEAH, THOSE BATHROOMS ARE GOOD. THOSE ARE THE GOOD.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM O, ADJOURNMENT.
CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND IT.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.