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[A. CALL TO ORDER]
FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER BAUER IS OUT, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS.I'M ALREADY UP. WHY NOT? PLEASE STAND. FACE THE FLAG.
PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART. BEGIN.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA.
[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO MOVE AROUND OR CHANGE? OKAY. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY? WE DO NOT.[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
MINUTES BEFORE WE DO A SERIATIM? NO. OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE F1 AND F2 CONSENT CALENDAR? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.OPPOSED. OKAY. EXCLUDED CONSENT. CALENDAR ITEMS. WE HAVE NONE. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.
WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.
THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. DO WE HAVE ANY E-COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? WE HAVE NO E COMMENTS.
WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON ON ZOOM, BUT THEIR HAND IS NOT RAISED.
OKAY. DOES THIS HAPPEN TO BE MARK HANSON? IT IS NOT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO CAN YOU ASK THEM IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING NOW? YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM.
OKAY, WELL, MOVING RIGHT ON ALONG. WE HAVE NO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEMS CONTINUED.
[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
YES YES YES YES. SO THANK YOU. DAVE, CAN YOU LIGHT ME UP AND GET THE POWERPOINT STARTED IN THE MEANTIME? AS THIS GROUP KNOWS, EVERY SIX MONTHS THE CITY COUNCIL GETS TOGETHER AND THEY COME UP WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT CITY STAFF TO FOCUS ON.IT'S A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT. IT'S ACTUALLY A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S ON APRIL 29TH. EVERYBODY HERE IS INVITED, AS WELL AS REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT STAFF TYPICALLY TAKES THEIR DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL ON ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS. NOW WE HAVE OUR AMENITIES PLAN, WE HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL PLAN.
WE'VE GOT CERTAIN PRIORITIES WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AND SAY WHAT'S LOGICALLY NEXT, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S ON CITY COUNCIL TO, TO TELL US WHAT TO DO. SO WHAT WE DO AS A GROUP IS I KIND OF PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME SUCCESS STORIES, AND THEN I GO OVER WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND AS POTENTIAL NEW STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS. SOME OF THOSE ARE LOGICAL NEXT STEPS OFF OF PROJECTS THAT WERE JUST COMPLETED.
SOME ARE BRAND NEW. I TYPICALLY LOOK AT THE AMENITIES PLAN FOR THOSE NEXT PROJECTS THAT ARE SLATED FOR US, AND THEN I TURN IT OVER TO THIS GROUP TO EITHER TAKE AWAY FROM THAT LIST.
IF YOU STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH ONE OF MY INCLUSIONS, THEN YOU CAN ALSO ADD TO IT, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WHEN WE DO THE STRATEGIC PLAN KIND OF THINK TANK SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL, SOMETIMES THEY'LL ACTUALLY ASK STAFF, WHAT DO WE THINK SHOULD BE NEXT? AND IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK LAST YEAR I ACTUALLY DRAFTED IT AND JUST SHOWED IT TO WHOEVER WAS NOMINATED, JUST TO MAKE SURE ANOTHER SET OF EYES WERE ON IT, AND I CAPTURED ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS. I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE'RE TYPICALLY THE ONLY COMMISSION THAT ACTUALLY SUBMITS A LETTER PRIOR TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN TAKING PLACE. SO IT IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP AND CITY COUNCIL DOES REVIEW IT DAYS AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH IS ALWAYS NICE. SO GOING INTO THIS DISCUSSION, I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER WHAT WE DID THIS PAST SIX MONTHS.
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DAVE, CAN YOU.I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER I AM.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE COMMERCIAL WHERE THE GUY IS DOING THE PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF A CLASS, AND HE GOES TO DO HIS POWERPOINT, AND IT'S LIKE A PICTURE OF HIM DOING MAGIC TRICKS. CARD TRICKS? OH, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
PICTURES OF GREG DOING CARD TRICKS. FANTASTIC.
FLAGS COMING OUT OF MY SLEEVE. YEAH. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO THE ONE BEHIND YOU.
GO TO THE ONE BEHIND ME. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.
OKAY. TRY NOW. DAVE. THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES FROM THIS YEAR AND THESE SHOULD THESE SHOULD JOG YOUR MEMORY BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS DID APPEAR BEFORE YOU.
WE GOT A LEASING STRATEGY ADOPTED. IT WAS REVIEWED BY THIS GROUP.
IT'S BEEN IN CLOSED SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL.
THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT OR AN INTERNAL POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT THE POINT IS WE GOT IT DONE. WE INSTALLED NEW VENTS FOR THE RESTAURANTS ON INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.
ACTUALLY, INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK WAS A KEY TOPIC HERE.
BEFORE THIS NEXT SIX MONTHS IS. WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY A FEW WEEKS AWAY FROM THOSE BEING INSTALLED.
WE INSTALLED NEW LANDSCAPING. WE ACTUALLY DID GET TWO CONTRACTS APPROVED WITH TWO OF OUR TENANTS DOWN ON INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THAT'S A MATCHING FUND. WE FULLY RENOVATED ALL THE RESTAURANTS, SORRY, NOT THE RESTAURANTS, ALL THE RESTROOMS ON THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK AND THE PIER AREA. WE REMOVED A BUNCH OF ABANDONED VESSELS FROM THE BASIN THREE AREA AND THE HARBOR PATROL DOCK AREA. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING THE MARINA PARKING LOT.
THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DONE BEFORE THE NEXT SIX MONTHS IS ENACTED.
IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, WE WE DEFINITELY EXPLORED EXPANDING THE HARBOR COMMISSION PURVIEW.
TOOK MY TOOK MY SHOTS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CAME BACK A LITTLE SCARRED, AND ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE. WE IMPROVED THE WI-FI IN THE HARBOR AREA, SO WE GOT FREE WI-FI EVERYWHERE.
PURCHASED A SHARK BOY FOR THE SHARK LAB. THE LONG BEACH STATE SHARK LAB PROGRAM.
WE JUST RECENTLY FINISHED AN APPLICATION FOR A $500,000 GRANT TO FUND THE CLIMATE RESILIENCY PLAN.
THAT'S THE S EA LEVEL RISE ASSESSMENT, AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO. WE WERE AWARDED A $1.4 MILLION GRANT TO IMPROVE THE BASIN THREE DOCKS.
WE DID GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE OFFICIAL SEASIDE LAGOON SCOPE, WHICH IS THE FULL RENOVATION.
WE WENT OVER COST, WE WENT OVER PHASING, AND WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS ENTITLEMENTS AT THIS POINT.
WE CREATED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP, REALLY WITH THE IDEA OF IDENTIFYING POLICIES MUNICIPAL CODE REGULATIONS, JUST ANYTHING THAT MAY IMPEDE BUSINESSES FROM LOCATING OR CHOOSING REDONDO BEACH TO BE THEIR GOVERNMENT OF CHOICE, AND THEN WE DID A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT NOW ALLOWS ELECTRONIC SIGNS IN THE HARBOR AREA.
SO SOME OF THESE, YOU'LL SEE THAT BUILD OFF OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT MY PROPOSED KIND OF WORK ORDER HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT FUNDING FOR CLIMATE RESILIENCY.
LET'S GET IT. LET'S WORK WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY SECURE THAT MONEY.
THE NEXT STEP FOR SEASIDE LAGOON WOULD BE TO APPEAR BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AND GET THE ENTITLEMENTS APPROVED, AS WELL AS TAKING THE NEXT STEP IN GETTING THE ENTITLEMENTS APPROVED AT COASTAL COMMISSION.
WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
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OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THIS NEXT ONE IS GOING TO APPEAR IN A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE TO SEEK MORE FUNDING FOR SEASIDE LAGOON.AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE COMPLETELY FUNDED FOR PHASE ONE, BUT NOT FOR PHASE TWO, 3 OR 4.
THOSE PHASES CAN HAPPEN IN ANY ORDER. THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PRICE TAGS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, BUT THE POINT IS, WE NEED TO SEEK MORE MONEY.
WE ARE MAKING WAY ON THE PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH. ONE OF THE STRAT PLAN ITEMS THIS PAST PERIOD WAS THAT WE GET A DESIGN FIRM, WE GET THE RFP, WE GET THEM CONTRACTED. THAT'S ALL HAPPENING.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE STUDIES ALMOST COMPLETE AS OF TODAY.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A VERY SUCCESSFUL SAVE PROGRAM IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
WE'VE WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN RID OF 11 ABANDONED BOATS.
THOSE RANGE BETWEEN 3000 AND $10,000 TO GET RID OF, AND WE WERE JUST EATING THAT COST HISTORICALLY.
WE USED ABOUT $35,000 OF GRANT FUNDING TO AUGMENT OUR EFFORTS THIS NEXT SIX MONTH PERIOD.
I WANT TO ACTUALLY SEEK UPWARDS OF 100 GRAND TO MAKE IT MORE MORE THAN JUST BASIN THREE, AND OUR HARBOR PATROL DOCKS, BUT TO OPEN IT UP TO BASINS ONE AND TWO AND PORTOFINO AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A REGIONAL ISSUE, NOT JUST A CITY BASIN THREE ISSUE. WE ARE NEGOTIATING A PARTNERSHIP FOR THE OLD JOE'S CRAB SHACK SITE.
WE'VE GENERALLY GOT LOW VACANCY THROUGHOUT THE HARBOR.
WE'VE GOT THE OLD GOLD'S GYM SITE. WE'VE GOT THE PAD TWO, WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED.
WE'VE GOT THE OLD FUN FACTORY SITE, WHICH HAS BEEN THE OLD MAISON RIZ, WHICH HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 8 OR 9 YEARS, AND THEN THE CONCEPT IN THE AMENITIES PLAN TO DEVELOP A FOOD HALL CONCEPT OF SOME KIND.
I'M SENDING SOME STAFF TO CONFERENCES, BROKERAGE CONFERENCES.
ONE OF THE NEWEST THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION WAS OFFICIAL DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY DIVIDE THE VERY LARGE BASIN ONE LEASEHOLD INTO FIVE, 6 OR 7. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT JUST HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL LEASEHOLDS DONE BY USE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A CONGLOMERATE OF 6 OR 7 USES.
YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, OPERATORS WHO SPECIALIZE IN RESTAURANTS, RUNNING A RESTAURANT, OPERATORS THAT SPECIALIZE IN THE MARINA, RUNNING A MARINA. SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE NOW OF HOW BEST TO DIVIDE THAT UP, BUT WE'D LIKE TO EVENTUALLY EXECUTE THAT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT KIND OF CONCERNS. WE DO HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM OUR TENANTS ABOVE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK OF THE LEAKY ROOFS.
WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO THAT.
THIS NEXT ONE IS KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT. DEPLOY THE DINGHY DOCK IN BASIN THREE.
WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO DOING THAT. THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN IN LATE MAY OR EARLY JUNE AFTER BEACH LIFE, BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S AN AMENITIES PLAN ITEM, AND I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE IT ON THIS.
I'D LET YOU GUYS KNOW T HE LAST STRAT PLAN ITEM WAS TO DEVELOP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND ACTUALLY CREATE A LIST OF ITEMS TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY AS IMPEDIMENTS, AND THE WORK GROUP CONSISTS OF INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS.
IT'S GOT A CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE. IT'S GOT REPRESENTATIVES FROM WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT, FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FROM PUBLIC WORKS, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY FROM ALL ANGLES TO SEE WHAT IS GETTING IN THE WAY OF BUSINESSES OR DEVELOPERS FOR THAT MATTER, CHOOSING THE CITY TO DO THEIR PROJECT, AND THEN SOMETHING ON THE FOREFRONT OF ALL OF YOUR MIND IS THE BREAKWATER REPAIR.
WE DO WANT TO GET THAT DONE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
THE SCHEDULE ACTUALLY IS TO START IN MAY AND TO END IN NOVEMBER.
IT JUST LINES UP PERFECTLY FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO SEE THAT TO COMPLETION.
SO THAT'S MY LIST THAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO YOU AS, BEING INCLUDED IN WHATEVER LETTER YOU GUYS WANT TO PROPOSE TO CITY COUNCIL? OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN ADD TO THIS AS A HIGHLIGHT.
I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE AMENITIES PLAN AS A BAROMETER OF WHAT MAYBE WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T INCLUDE, AND THIS IS A LIST OF THE SHORT TERM GOALS IN THE AMENITIES PLAN.
STUFF THAT'S CROSSED OUT IS EITHER BEEN CONDUCTED OR WILL BE CONDUCTED IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING PRETTY GOOD HEADWAY.
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THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT AREN'T CROSSED OFF EITHER HAVEN'T BEEN DONE OR AREN'T INCLUDED IN MY LIST OF PROPOSALS, AND IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH CONDUCTING AN RFP, GETTING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A CONSULTANT, UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES. THAT'S PRETTY COSTLY.WE'RE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WITH THE BUDGET. YOU GUYS HEARD FROM OUR CITY MANAGER LAST MEETING.
LET'S CONTINUE TO SEEK GRANT FUNDING FOR THE STUFF THAT WE DON'T, AND THEN HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 YEARS GOES BY, THE OVERSPENDING HAS STOPPED.
WE'RE NOW BACK IN THE BLACK AND WE CAN START TACKLING SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WOULD REQUIRE RFPS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THERE TO SHOW YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT TERM GOALS WERE ESSENTIALLY A LIST THAT SAID, HEY, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THAT'S FROM 2022 IS WHEN WE APPROVED THAT.
WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY. GUYS LIKE WE REALLY ARE.
IT'S GOING TO START REALLY SHOWING ITSELF IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE NEAR YEAR OR SO, YEAR OR LESS, BUT ALL OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS HAVE BEEN DONE.
I EVEN WANTED TO SHOW JUST A COUPLE OF THE MIDTERM GOALS, WHICH ARE LIKE MINDED WITHIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AND THE TWO UNDERLINED ARE ITEMS THAT WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT DOING RIGHT NOW IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO, BUT I INCLUDED THESE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS SOME IDEAS OF , YOU KNOW, WHAT THE AMENITIES PLAN CALLS FOR, WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AND WITH THAT, I KIND OF WANT TO LEAVE IT ON MY LIST, BUT I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO THIS GROUP TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. ROGER, YOU WANT TO START? SURE. YEAH.
THIS IS GREAT. WELL DONE. YEAH. I'M ALWAYS PLEASED AT HOW MUCH YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN DONE.
I'M ALWAYS PLEASED AT HOW MUCH THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS US.
YOU KNOW, US SENDING THAT LETTER AND OCCASIONALLY GOING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'S JUST BEEN SO VALUABLE AND EFFECTIVE, FOR SURE.
YEAH. SO A COUPLE LITTLE COMMENTS AND TWEAKS.
ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP SECTION.
I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CUPS COMING UP, BUT I CAN REMEMBER I THINK IT WAS THE SLIP BAR, OR MAYBE IT WAS ANOTHER BUSINESS DOWN THERE WHO SAID THE CUPS ALONG INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK ARE KIND OF CHOPPY.
THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT HOURS OF OPERATION, DIFFERENT HOURS FOR MUSIC.
YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT BUSINESS REINVESTMENT, THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT, SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO DO, I THINK SOMETHING THIS COMMISSION PROMISED TO DO. ANOTHER ONE I HAD IN THAT SECTION WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR GOLD'S GYM PURSUING THAT AS A WEST MARINE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET WEST MARINE OUT OF HERMOSA AND INTO REDONDO AND CLOSER TO THE HARBOR.
I WAS PLAYING WITH THIS TODAY AND JUST KIND OF EYEBALLING IT AND PLAYING WITH GOOGLE MAPS, DRAWING A BOX AROUND THE BUILDING. IT LOOKS LIKE AROUND 18,000FT².
THE WEST MARINE AND HERMOSA IS ABOUT 5000FT².
IT'S MINUSCULE, YOU KNOW. IT IS. IT IS SO TINY.
YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE THAN JUST LIKE ROPES AND BATTERIES AND FUEL TANKS.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY VISITOR TO THE PIER OR AREA COULD GO IN AND FIND, YOU KNOW, GOOD BEACH CLOTHING, NAUTICAL CLOTHING, BEACH TOYS, FISHING EQUIPMENT.
THE BIGGEST ONE I KNOW OF IS DOWN IN SAN DIEGO.
IT'S 27,000FT². WOW. SO. THEY COULD FILL 18,000FT².
I DON'T KNOW IF IT PENCILS OUT FOR THEM. IF THEY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT TRAFFIC AND RADIUS AROUND IT, BUT MAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE THERE. ANOTHER THING I'D POTENTIALLY ADD TO THE LIST IS PURSUING A MAINTENANCE DREDGING PERMIT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON OUR RADAR. SO I DON'T MIND ADDING IT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THAT REGARDLESS WITH WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS IN PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S A FORM YOU FILL OUT AND SOMEDAY IT COMES BACK AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE WE NEED IT.
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I ALWAYS LOOK AT THERE'S TWO THINGS I ALWAYS LOOK AT.I ALWAYS LOOK AT MOONSTONE AND I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE SMALL AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, THE PATHS, THE WAYFINDING, THAT KIND OF THING, AND I WISH THERE WAS MORE WE COULD DO.
YOU KNOW, IF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION COULD HELP IF IF PARKS AND REC COULD HELP.
JUST THE LITTLE STUFF THAT THE CITY HAS MANAGED TO DO ON INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.
OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FITS IN HERE ANYWHERE.
IT'S ON THE WAYFINDING AND FUTURE PATHS WERE KIND OF ON YOUR FUTURE PLAN PAGE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, LOW FRUIT, IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE FULL OF BENCHES WHERE THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK ONES CAME FROM, YOU KNOW, AS WE START TO SPRUCE UP THE REST OF THE MARINA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF GREAT NEW ANCHOR TENANTS WITH RIVIERA CANTINA AND CAL SURF CLUB AND EW PAVING AND STUFF. JUST TO START TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER WOULD BE GREAT.
THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS KIND OF BIG. I'D LIKE TO INCREASE HARBOR PATROL'S ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
THIS IS BUILDING ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE WITH THE HARBOR MASTER.
IT KIND OF GOES TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, THINGS I WOULD SUGGEST, AND , YOU KNOW, I'D WANT TO EVALUATE THIS WITH THE HARBOR MASTER, CITY ATTORNEY, WHOEVER ELSE, THE HARBOR PATROL TEAM THEMSELVES.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THERE'S FIRE HOSES THERE. THE ELECTRICAL LOOKS GOOD.
THE WALKWAYS ARE SAFE, THAT KIND OF THING. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CHECKS IN A BOAT INSPECTION. RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S FLOATING.
YOU GOT ENOUGH LIFE PRESERVERS? I'D LOVE TO SEE THINGS LIKE SHOW ME THAT YOUR BILGE WORKS.
SHOW ME THAT YOUR PUMPS RUN. SHOW ME THAT WHEN YOU RUN YOUR PUMPS, GASOLINE DOESN'T COME OUT.
SHOW ME YOUR ENGINE ROOM. BLOWER WORKS. SHOW ME YOU HAVE A BOATER'S LICENSE.
I HAVE ALL THIS WRITTEN DOWN AND CAN SEND IT TO YOU, BUT SO I WANT THE HARBOR PATROL TO USE A LITTLE BIT OF JUDGMENT THERE, BUT , YOU KNOW, I WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER MARINAS AROUND US THAT HAVE HAD FIRES.
I WORRY ABOUT THE OIL SLICK WE SEE IN THE MARINA CONSTANTLY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S COMING FROM JUST 1 OR 2 BOATS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS I WOULD DO WOULD BE LIKE, OWNERS SHOULD HAVE A BOATER'S LICENSE.
ENGINE ROOM BLOWER SHOULD WORK. IF YOU HAVE AN ENCLOSED ENGINE ROOM AND YOU GET GAS IN THERE THROUGH A LEAK OR SOMETHING, WHEN YOU START YOUR ENGINE, YOUR BOAT BLOWS UP.
IT HAPPENED AT THE LONG BEACH GAS DOCKS, AND PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
IF YOU HAVE AN ENCLOSED ENGINE ROOM WITH GASOLINE.
THE BOAT SHOULD START. IT SHOULD SHIFT INTO FORWARD, REVERSE AND NEUTRAL.
YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD SEE THAT THE THING GOES IN AND OUT OF GEAR AND THE STEERING WORKS. IF YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE TIED UP, YOU'RE ALSO SEEING THAT YOU'VE TIED UP THE BOAT WELL, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BANGING AROUND AND GETTING LOOSE IN A STORM. THAT PROVES THAT THE BOAT, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS RUNS, AND IF YOU DO GO TO DRIVE AROUND, YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO HIT THE BOAT ACROSS THE SLIP FROM YOU.
WHICH HAPPENED TO ME. IF YOU'VE GOT A SAILBOAT, THE STANDING RIGGING SHOULD BE SOUND.
MAYBE YOU HAVE A SAILBOAT AND YOU NEVER SAIL. HEY, THAT'S FINE. YOUR MASS SHOULD STILL STAY UP, BUT IF YOU DO SAIL, YOU KNOW YOUR SAILBOAT RIGGING SHOULD BE IN DECENT SHAPE.
I'VE HEARD FROM THE HARBOR PATROL A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
SO, YOU KNOW, SAILBOATS SHOULD GET CHECKED OUT THE SAME AS AS AS POWERBOATS.
THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS YOU CAN CONSIDER OF KIND OF THE COAST GUARD COURTESY INSPECTION.
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HARDER TO USE, MORE DANGEROUS, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE INSPECTIONS DONE, YOU KNOW, PICK A NUMBER AT A MINIMUM EVERY FIVE YEARS.IT WOULD BE MANDATORY WHEN A NEW BOAT COMES IN, AND THEN IT COULD BE ALSO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THE HARBOR PATROL DOES AS NECESSARY OR WHEN THE MARINA OFFICE THINKS IT'S NECESSARY.
IT FEEDS INTO THE CLEANING UP ABANDONED BOATS.
GIVES IT A LITTLE MORE TEETH. I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME TEETH BEHIND THIS.
OTHER HARBORS HAVE IT. WHERE IF YOU FAIL THIS, YOU GOT TO FIX IT OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, RIGHT? RIGHT. NOW YOU GET A NOTE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, OTHER HARBORS ARE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN THAT.
I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GIVE OUR HARBOR PATROL, YOU KNOW, BADGES AND GUNS AND BULLETPROOF VESTS, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF TEETH BEHIND THIS.
WE CAN TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS. WE CAN DONATE TO SEA SCOUTS.
INSTEAD OF JUST GOING INTO A WOOD CHIPPER OR SINKING TO THE BOTTOM.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY HAVE A GOAL. I THINK YOU DO, TOO.
YOU DID IT IN THE SOUTH BASIN OF OF REHOMING ANY UNUSED VESSEL WHILE IT'S STILL USABLE, AND IF IT'S NOT STILL USABLE, LET'S GET IT OUT OF THERE. I REALLY WANT TO SEE OUR SLIPS FULL OF ACTIVE USERS SPENDING MONEY IN THE HARBOR, BUYING CHEESEBURGERS, GOING TO THE NEW WEST MARINE, AND PUSHING BACK ON THE GANG ACTIVITY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S CREEPY BEING THE ONLY ONE DOWN THERE, AND THERE WAS TROUBLE LAST SUMMER, AND IT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN AGAIN THIS SUMMER, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT, OTHER THAN JUST GETTING MORE BOATER ACTIVITY DOWN THERE AND PUSHING BACK ON THE PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S A LONG WINDED ADDITION, BUT. WELL, I THINK FROM WHAT I HEARD, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU WANT TO EXPLORE WHEN IT COMES TO STRAT PLAN, USUALLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, EVALUATE MORE FREQUENT AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE BOATING INSPECTION PROCESSES BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS YOU KIND OF YOU END UP KIND OF CREATING A LIST LIKE YOU DID AS DETAILED AS THAT, LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KIND OF COME UP WITH A LIST AND THEN YOU KIND OF PUT IT ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WHAT WOULD THAT CAN YOU CAN YOU DO THAT WITH YOUR EXISTING STAFF? IF YES, GREAT. IF NOT, MOST LIKELY NOT. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO AUGMENT? RIGHT. SO THEN THAT ALL KIND OF GETS INCORPORATED INTO THE EXPLORATION, AND YOU PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AND THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION, RIGHT? WELL THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY DOES A COURTESY INSPECTION, AND THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO IT AND TURN OVER THE RESULTS TO THE HARBOR PATROL. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE STAFF ANYMORE.
I'VE ASKED FOR IT REPEATEDLY AND NEVER GOTTEN ONE AT KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB.
YES. REALLY? YES. WOW. LET ME CHECK INTO THAT, BECAUSE THEY USED TO BE GREAT AT IT, AND YOU GOT A LITTLE STICKER? YEAH. LET ME CHECK. THANK YOU, ROGER. ARE YOU FINISHED? THAT'S IT. YES, THANK YOU. TOM? SURE, JUST TO SECOND WHAT ROGER SAID.
A GREAT JOB, AND I LOVE ROGER'S VISUALIZING OF A, YOU KNOW, FILLING IN THE GOLD'S GYM .
A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAVE I ALSO SECOND THE MORE THE HARBOR MASTER GROWTH, AND ON TOP OF THAT, ALSO A GROWTH OF YOUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOK AT THAT, BUT YOU'RE TAKING ON MORE AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WOULDN'T YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT NEED MORE FUNDING AS WELL? POTENTIALLY, YES. I MEAN, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER BIG PUSH, AND I THINK THE STRAT PLAN WILL SHOW THIS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S ANOTHER BRANCH OF MY DEPARTMENT, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON WITH THEIR SOLE RATIONALE TO BE PURSUING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CITYWIDE, WHICH WOULD THEN FREE UP ONE OF THE FOUR WATERFRONT PEOPLE TO SPECIFICALLY JUST FOCUS ON WATERFRONT.
RIGHT. THAT EXPANDS OUR BANDWIDTH DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT AS WELL.
SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE. I KNOW, I KNOW, THIS CITY COUNCIL SEEMS PRETTY KEEN ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING BUSINESSES, RETAINING BUSINESSES, AND JUST BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
SO I'M ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT GO THAT DIRECTION.
I COULD BE WRONG, BUT YEAH. I HAVE SOMETHING QUESTION COMPLETELY UNRELATED, BUT WE HOW CONNECTED ARE WE TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS FAR AS WORKING AND ORGANIZING THINGS IN THE HARBOR? WE ATTEND ALL THEIR MEETINGS.
YEAH. YEAH. AT ONE POINT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING AN EFFORT TO REWRITE THE LCP.
THE LCP. RIGHT? IS THAT EFFORT STILL GOING ON?
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IS THAT PART OF THE? IT'S PART OF THE CLIMATE RESILIENCY MASTER PLAN.SO THE GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR WOULD COVER THAT MASTER PLAN, AND THEN WE'VE ASKED THEM AND THEY'VE AGREED TO WHEN WE DO THAT MASTER PLAN, WE WILL THEN GO INTO THE LCP AND REORGANIZE AS NEEDED TO MAKE IT A READABLE DOCUMENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE HARBOR COMMISSION ON THAT OR SHOULD THERE BE? NO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T REACH OUT TO YOU.
THE WORKGROUP IS GOING TO BE THE SITTING WORKGROUP.
THE EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS WILL INVITE IN AND OUT PERIODICALLY WHEN WE NEED INSIGHT, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
WE CAN PING YOU GUYS, SHOW UP AND GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT.
THERE'S ALWAYS ADA ISSUES, RIGHT? THOSE CAN BE A REAL STICKING POINT, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AND ACTUALLY HAD PERSONALLY WITH GETTING GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
RIGHT. VERY MUCH SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE OR NOT AGING, BUT JUST AN OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE, OLDER BUILDINGS, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO UPGRADE THE KITCHEN REAL QUICK.
RIGHT, AND OFTEN FOR SOME REASON, I REALIZE THERE'S KIND OF A BALANCE HERE, BUT THE CITY KIND OF PUSHES THE IN MY EXPERIENCE, HAS PUSHED THE ENVELOPE ON WHAT IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED.
IT'S PUSHING IT EVEN FURTHER TO GET THERE, AND THAT CAN HOLD UP AND EVEN DERAIL CERTAIN PROJECTS, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STEP OF THE WORKGROUP IS TO IDENTIFY THOSE IMPEDIMENTS.
ARE WE OVER-ASKING? THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS.
YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, BUT REALLY A GREAT JOB, AND I THINK THE FOCUS HERE OF LOOKING AT THE AMENITIES PLAN AND THEN GOING OFF, THAT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD.
WE SHOULD STAY FOCUSED. ALL THE WOOD BEHIND ONE ARROW AS THEY SAY TO GET THINGS DONE RIGHT.
SO GOOD JOB. FINISHED? YES. LESLIE. I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID, BUT I'LL BE EXPLICIT.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, GREG, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR, AND I LIKE HOW YOU PULLED OUT THE SHORT TERM AND MID-TERM GOALS FROM AMENITIES PLAN. SO I HAD THREE WRITTEN DOWN WHICH I THINK HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
YEAH. MAINTENANCE DREDGING. PROBABLY GOOD TO GET THAT UNDERWAY SOONER.
GOOD IDEA. DEFINITELY, THAT LITTLE AREA WITH ALL THE BIRDS HANGING OUT.
HARBOR PATROL INSPECTIONS TO INCREASE BOAT, HARBOR BOAT AND HARBOR SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WAS HITTING ON SOME SMALL AREAS OF THE AMENITIES PLAN, YOU KNOW, TIED TO COHESIVENESS AND WAYFINDING, AND I THINK THAT WAS IN THE SHORT BULLET, I THINK IT KIND OF APPEARED AS I THINK YOU HAD IT AS BIKE PATH OR SOMETHING, BUT THERE'S OVER WATERFRONT, PROMENADE AND NODES.
SO I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN FRONT OF SEASIDE LAGOON, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL IF WE COULD TACKLE, LIKE, ONE OF THE NODES, SO. OKAY. LIKE THE. YEAH, THE WAYFINDING SECTION THAT.
YEAH. JUST ROGER MENTIONED, TOO. OKAY. YEAH. JUST SOME LITTLE THINGS, TOO.
OKAY. SO THE THREE TOPICS THAT I'M HEARING AT LEAST FROM THE FIRST THREE ARE THE MAINTENANCE DREDGING, KIND OF IDENTIFYING SOME WAYFINDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COULD DO AND THEN EXPLORING MORE FREQUENT AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE BOAT INSPECTIONS JUST TO KIND OF TRY TO SUMMARIZE HALFWAY THROUGH. YEAH. THANK YOU LESLIE.
WE'LL START AT THE OTHER END. I'M GOOD. THAT'S A FANTASTIC JOB, AND THIS IS GREAT.
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REMEMBER ALL THESE THINGS AS WE SIT HERE WITH THE LIGHTS SHINING ON US, IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT IT'S SO WELL, WELL STRUCTURED.
THANK YOU. LISA. SO WHAT HE SAID. ONE MORE THING.
SO WAS THE BREAKWATER OR BREAKWALL REPAIR LAWSUIT WENT AWAY.
WHAT HAPPENED? THERE WAS NO LAWSUIT. THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THE NEW TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THEY FROZE AND PAUSED ALL OF THE FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANTS. THERE WAS A SLIGHT DELAY BECAUSE THE U.S.
ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS DIDN'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTED OUR ALREADY AWARDED PROJECT.
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TURNS OUT IT DIDN'T AFFECT IT, BUT WE HAD TO WAIT ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO TO REALLY FIND THAT OUT.A LAWSUIT ABOUT SOME ENVIRONMENTAL THING THAT WAS JUST, YEAH, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
YEAH, THAT WAS A PERMIT, NOT A LAWSUIT. YEAH.
OKAY. SORRY. SO HE US ARMY HAD A PERMIT IN WITH THE STATE WATER BOARD AND THE STATE WATER BOARD FOR OUR PROJECT WAS REQUIRING CERTAIN INSPECTIONS AND CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS, AND WHILE THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR OUR PROJECT, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR ALL OF THEIR PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. SO THEY WERE REALLY FIGHTING AGAINST IT, AND THEY WON. SO, OKAY, SO THAT WE'RE ADVANCING.
YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE SEEING THE IDEAS FOR LATER FOR THE DRY BOAT STORAGE AND THE RFP FOR THE MOONSTONE PARK REDEVELOPMENT, SO HOPEFULLY THE MONEY WILL COME FOR THAT ONE DAY.
YEAH. ROGER DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB. GO FIRST ALL THE TIME, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK.
THANK YOU, ROGER, AND THANK THE THANK YOU DAVE.
EVERYBODY IN THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB, AND KEEPING TRACK OF THIS REALLY HELPS US REFLECT ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I HAVE TO SAY, MOONSTONE PARK HAS BEEN HAS BEEN EXAMINED OVER AND OVER. I MEAN, I'M SURE MARK HANSEN HAS A WHOLE DRAWER FULL OF PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND JUST NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
THAT MONEY. LIKE I SAID, THAT MONEY IS SITTING THERE DEPRECIATING.
SO WHAT WE HAD 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO IS NOW WORTH TWO THIRDS OF THAT.
SO EVERY YEAR WE WAIT AND DON'T USE IT. WE'RE LOSING MONEY.
SO TOTALLY AGREE. THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. WELL, I THINK I SUMMARIZED THE THOUGHTS HERE ALREADY, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I COULD TAKE A STAB AT WRITING THE LETTER, INCLUDING ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ON HERE, PLUS THE THREE THAT I HEARD FROM YOU, AND IF YOU WANT TO NOMINATE SOMEONE THAT I CAN THEN SEND THAT TO JUST AS A QUALITY CONTROL CHECK.
ROGER, SINCE YOU HAVE MOST OF THE STUFF ON THE LIST, I'M HAPPY TO HELP.
OKAY. I NOMINATE ROGER. YEAH, AND I RECOGNIZE I WAS GETTING INTO THE WEEDS AND, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SAY WHERE I WANT TO GO, AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE JUST A SENTENCE OR TWO WITH THE, IF THEY DO, YOU KNOW, DECIDE TO PUT THAT IN THE STRAT PLAN, WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS MEETING AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH? SO IT'S GOOD THAT THE DETAIL'S THERE. I SUSPECT THE WHOLE COUNCIL IS WATCHING THIS NOW. YEAH, OF COURSE, BUT A BIG PART OF WHAT ROGER WAS TALKING ABOUT IS EXPANDING THE HARBOR MASTER'S JUST TAKING THE NEXT STEP.
TAKING THE NEXT STEP, RIGHT. YEAH, I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT.
YEAH. WITH AN EYE FOR SAFETY AND STEWARDSHIP.
YEAH. YEAH. I WILL LOOK INTO THE AUXILIARY AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
YES. OKAY, I'LL GET THAT LETTER TO YOU BEFORE MONDAY BECAUSE IT'S ON THE 29TH.
THE STRAT PLAN SESSION. GREAT. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY ZOOM THAT CAME IN ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? NO COMMENTS AND NOTHING ON ZOOM. OKAY. YEAH, AND I'LL TRY TO BE THERE AS WELL, AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY IF YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THIS BEFORE, SEEING HOW THE CITY BUDGET WORKS IS IT'S FASCINATING.
INTERESTING FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AND VICKI, I GUESS, AND JUST HAVING ONE OF US SHOW UP MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, I THINK. SO I SHOWED UP ON ZOOM YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE LETTER AND THEN HAVING SOMEONE THERE, WE TYPICALLY GET WHAT WE WANT. IF I'M IN TOWN AND SINCE WE HAVE A NEW CITY COUNCIL PERSON HANDLING THE HARBOR AND WATERFRONT I THINK HE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US AS WELL, AND WE GOT TO KEEP YOU CALIBRATED.
ARE WE DONE WITH OUR PRESENTATION? I'M ALL SET.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE JUST A QUESTION ON THE WHOLE THING.
WELL, THE DECISION TO EXPAND THE HARBOR COMMISSION PURVIEW WOULD HAVE COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOSING SOME OF THEIR PURVIEW AREA, AND ULTIMATELY, IT WAS DECIDED JUST NOT TO NOT TO TOUCH IT, NOT TO TOUCH IT, JUST LEAVE IT THAT THEY TRUSTED BOTH COMMISSIONS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW ENTITLEMENTS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW AREA, THEIR EXISTING PURVIEW AREA.
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YEAH, WELL, THERE'S THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS, HAVING ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE TRYING TO WEIGH DOWN WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE LENGTHY TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TRYING TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY. SO I MEAN, THEY WERE WEIGHING KIND OF ALL ASPECTS THERE. ALSO, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON IS, ROGER, YOU KNOW, THINKING AND MANIFESTING WEST MARINE IN THE GOLD'S GYM SITE IS IT IS THAT IS I'VE HEARD IT FROM MANY PEOPLE AND I AND I THINK IT WAS EVEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, BUT THEY WERE ALREADY SET IN HERMOSA.I THINK WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THEM. SO.
OKAY, OKAY. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO L2? I THINK SO.
ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S POSITION ON COMMISSIONER CARLSON'S IDEA TO SEEK NECESSARY APPROVALS FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE TO AUGMENT THE EXISTING ARTIFICIAL REEF LOCATED NEAR THE ENTRANCE TO KING HARBOR.
YEAH, I'LL START OFF, BUT I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO ROGER PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO THIS THIS WAS AN IDEA FROM ROGER A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, MAYBE EVEN LONGER, AND AS A GROUP, WE DECIDED TO AGENDIZE IT. ROGER'S DONE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON IT.
HE THOUGHT HE WAS READY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO I'LL LET ROGER KIND OF INTRODUCE IT AND KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH IT.
YEAH. LET'S SEE. I THINK IF YOU BRING UP THE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TRANSMIT THIS OUT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD ANYWHERE.
PAGE 25. YEAH, IN THE PACKET IT STARTS ON PAGE 25, THE MAP WITH THE LETTERS ON 22.
YEAH. SO DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME OR FISH AND WILDLIFE.
NOW PUT IN ARTIFICIAL REEFS BACK IN THE 70S, AND THEY PUT IN AN ARTIFICIAL REEF IN FRONT OF MOST HARBORS, AND THEY TRIED DIFFERENT MATERIAL. THEY TRIED, YOU KNOW, AUTO BODIES AND RED CARS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE GOT ONE THAT WAS MADE OF PIER PILINGS, QUARRY ROCK CEMENT CULVERT CEMENT DOCK FLOATS THAT THEY'D GOTTEN FROM SOMEWHERE, VARIOUS THINGS, AND , YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL AN EXPERIMENT TO SEE WHAT WORKED WELL, AND THEY PLANNED ON CONTINUING THIS AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, NEVER REALLY GOT FUNDED FOR ANYMORE.
PERHAPS NOT SURPRISINGLY. SO WE HAVE AN ARTIFICIAL REEF SITTING ABOUT A MILE OUT IN FRONT OF KING HARBOR, AND IT'S GREAT. YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE FISHING IT.
IT'S WITHIN RANGE OF A KAYAK FISHERMAN. IT'S FUN TO GO SCUBA DIVING ON.
IT'S KIND OF NEAR THE CANYON, SO THE WATER STAYS PRETTY CLEAR SOME OF THE TIME.
IT'S A DECENT DIVE SITE. IT'S KIND OF OUT OF THE TRAFFIC LANES SINCE IT IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT DIRECTLY OUT FROM THE HARBOR BOATS GOING TO CATALINA OR GOING A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF IT, BOATS GOING NORTH TO MARINA DEL REY OR GOING INSIDE OF IT.
SO IT'S IN A GOOD SPOT AND IT WOULD BE WORTH ADDING TO IT, AND IF WE HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, CEMENT DEBRIS OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, SUITABLE INNER-DEBRIS COMING FROM THESE PROJECTS.
I WISH WE'D GOTTEN THE PIER PILINGS FROM THE HARBOR PATROL DOCKS, BUT , YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEDAY WE'LL GET PIER PILINGS FROM THE SOUTH BASIN OR SOME OF THE CEMENT BLOCK WALLS THERE, OR FROM PORT ROYAL OR WHEREVER ELSE.
I STARTED BY SANITY CHECKING THIS WITH A BIOLOGIST NAMED DAN PONDELLA, WHO WORKS WITH OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MARINE INSTITUTE, A CONSORTIUM OF COLLEGES THAT SHARE A RESEARCH FACILITY ON CATALINA ISLAND, AND JUST TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO BE, YOU KNOW, DUMPING PIER PILINGS IN THE OCEAN OR IF THERE'S SOME PROBLEM WITH IT.
THIS SAME GROUP, THERE WAS RECENTLY A NEW ARTIFICIAL REEF PUT IN OFF PALOS VERDES WITH MONEY FROM THE DDT SUPERFUND RESTORATION. SO ONE OF THE FEW NEW ARTIFICIAL REEFS THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS HAPPENED OFF THE SOUTH SIDE OF P.V.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND DAN'S GROUP, THE TUNA RESEARCH GROUP, STUDIED THAT.
IT'S ONE OF THE LONGEST ONES IN CALIFORNIA. SO DAN BLESSED THIS IDEA, AND SO NOW I'M JUST KIND OF LOOKING FOR OTHER ENDORSEMENTS, AND I'D LIKE TO GET THE ENDORSEMENT OF THIS GROUP.
MY INTENTION IS TO TALK TO FISH AND WILDLIFE AND WATER BOARD AND WHEREVER ELSE THIS LEADS.
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OPEN ARMS BUT DAN DID TELL ME THEY ARE STUDYING THE FUTURE PLANS FOR ARTIFICIAL REEFS, AND IT IS KIND OF HELD UP BY MONEY.SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE CEMENT PIER PILINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE NEW ONES COME IN BY BARGE AND THE OLD ONES LEAVE BY BARGE AND THEN GO DOWN AND HAVE TO GET ON SOME TRUCK AND GET TRUCKED OUT AND GROUND UP AND THROWN AWAY.
HEY, YOU MAY AS WELL DROP THEM INTO THE OCEAN. SO MY IDEAL GOAL WOULD BE TO COME BACK WITH A BLANKET PERMIT FROM THE STATE TO REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC WORKS, AND YOU KNOW, HERE YOU CAN GIVE THIS TO PORT ROYAL OR WHOEVER AND STAPLE THIS TO A N RFP AND HOPEFULLY IT SAVES MONEY ON THAT RFP. IDEALLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EVERY CITY WITH A WITH A HARBOR COULD EASILY GET FROM FISH AND WILDLIFE OUT OF THIS. I MEAN THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE NEW GUIDELINES AND HOPEFULLY THIS MAYBE THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THIS I DON'T KNOW.
SO ALL I'M LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT IS IS ONE MORE ENDORSEMENT FROM THIS GROUP.
I'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF ENDORSEMENTS FROM VARIOUS BIOLOGISTS AND DIVE AGENCIES AND SO FORTH.
SO JUST KIND OF. YEAH, LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM HERE.
SOUNDS LIKE HE'S IN EXPLORATORY PHASE. HE'S GOT SOME CONCEPTS IN MIND AS AN END GOAL IN MIND, BUT JUST WANTS THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S SUPPORT TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET THIS THING.
YEAH, AND I INCLUDED A HANDFUL OF PICTURES SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE REEF TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE ONE SECTION OF THE REEF IN THIS FIRST PICTURE WITH A COUPLE OF PILES OF QUARRY ROCK.
THIS IS IN, LIKE, 80 OR 90FT OF WATER, BUT THE STORMS HAVE STILL KIND OF SHOVED THE ROCKS AROUND AND FLATTENED IT OUT, AND YOU CAN SEE ONE PIER PILING, LAYING ON TOP OF THE ROCKS, WHICH JUST MAKES THAT PURE PILING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE MORE GROWTH ON IT.
IT'S NOT JUST SMOTHERED IN THE SAND. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF THE REEF THAT'S JUST QUARRY ROCK, AND AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF SCATTERED, NOT REALLY PILED UP, NOT REALLY ANY, YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH RELIEF TO IT.
NEXT SECTION IS A SECTION OF PIER PILINGS THAT HAVE REALLY ROLLED AROUND AND FLATTENED OUT.
HERE'S ONE SECTION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THREE DIMENSIONAL, HAS SOME BIGGER PIECES OF CONCRETE, AND ON THIS SECTION, ON THIS DAY, I HAPPEN TO SEE A GIANT SEA BASS SWIMMING AROUND IN THIS PART.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, THE MORE THREE DIMENSIONAL STRUCTURE YOU GET, THE MORE IT STARTS TO HOLD LIFE.
THERE WERE SOMETHING LIKE 1700 CONCRETE DOCK FLOATS DUMPED.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE SORT OF A CONCRETE BOX, CONCRETE COFFIN.
IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT TWO PICTURES YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT OR, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THE BOTTOM PICTURE WHERE IT'S ALMOST WORTHLESS AT THIS POINT, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS SITE IS ALREADY AN ARTIFICIAL REEF.
SO IF WE PICK THIS SITE AND DUMP A LITTLE BIT MORE STUFF ON IT.
HEY, FISHERMEN CAN GET TO IT AND THAT WILL TAKE PRESSURE OFF THE NATURAL REEFS, YOU KNOW, OVER ON PALOS VERDES, AND GIVE SOMEWHERE CLOSE THAT FISHERMEN AND DIVERS CAN GET TO AND KAYAK FISHERMAN CAN GET TO.
THE LAST COUPLE PICTURES ARE OF ONE OF THE BEST ARTIFICIAL REEFS I'VE BEEN TO.
THIS IS AZORES REEF DOWN OFF HUNTINGTON, AND THEY HAVE A PILE OF PIER PILINGS THERE.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE A BIG PILE OF PICK UP STICKS.
IF WE HAD A LOT OF PIER PILINGS COMING OUT OF THIS HARBOR, BOY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HERE.
SO THAT'S IT. THANKS. THANKS FOR THE TIME. I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING THIS.
I'VE GOT PERHAPS A DUMB QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE TO, LIKE YOU HAD AN ABANDONED SAILBOAT, AND YOU CLEANED IT UP AND THEN SCUTTLED IT AND SUNK IT THERE. IS THAT? IT'S PROBABLY NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE.
THE FIBERGLASS AND THE SAILBOAT IS AN EPOXY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TOXIC AND A LITTLE LESS.
IT'S QUITE INERT. I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE OCEAN NOW, BUT IT'S NOT AS INERT AS CEMENT, AND IT'S ALSO LIGHT. STORMS ARE GOING TO PUSH IT AROUND AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STAY WHERE YOU PUT IT, AND THERE'S ALSO THE COST OF CLEANING IT UP. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STRIP THE ELECTRONICS AND THE WIRES OUT OF IT AND SO FORTH.
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WHICH IS REALLY COOL. YOU KNOW, IT'S A REGULAR DIVE SITE.THERE'S THERE ARE BOATS THAT GO TO THAT ALL DAY LONG AND DO NOTHING ELSE, AND YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A NICE MONEYMAKER FOR THE LOCAL SCUBA DIVERS AND SCUBA PEOPLE, BUT CLEANING UP A VESSEL, A SMALL ONE IS GOING TO DRIFT AROUND.
CLEANING UP A BIG ONE IS A BIG INVESTMENT. SO I'M KIND OF, HEY, IF THAT WORKED OUT, GREAT.
IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, A DESTROYER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE AND HAVE MORE ARTIFICIAL REEFS.
GREAT. I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO PICK THE LOW FRUIT WITH THIS.
YEAH, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ROGER ON HIS PROPOSAL? I LIKE IT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ENHANCING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
THERE'S A BASE THERE, SO THEY CAN'T SAY, OH, WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING NEW.
WE'RE JUST REFRESHING IT. YEAH, AND , YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY PRETTY WHEN YOU DIVE ON IT, BUT, AND IT KEEPS STUFF OUT OF THE LANDFILL. YEAH, BUT IF WE COULD PICK ONE SPOT AND DUMP ALL THE STUFF IN ONE, WE'D HAVE A THREE DIMENSIONAL CIRCUS TENT. YEAH.
YEAH. I LIKE IT. IS THERE A MARITIME LAW THAT WOULD COVER THE DUMP? I IMAGINE THERE IS COVERING THE DUMPING, AND IF SO, WHO WOULD WE? I MEAN, I GUESS I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'M SURE SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY HAS.
YEAH. THERE IS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, POSTED IN EVERY BOAT, IT SAYS YOU CAN YOU CAN DUMP THIS THIS CLOSE AND THIS THIS CLOSE, AND YOU CAN NEVER DUMP PLASTIC, AND , YOU KNOW, THREE MILES OUT, YOU CAN DUMP METAL AND, YOU KNOW, TEN MILES OUT, YOU CAN FLUSH YOUR TOILETS. I FORGET WHAT IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU CALL IF YOU SEE A VIOLATION OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE SOMEONE THROW SOMETHING IN THE WATER, I GUESS YOU CALL THE COAST GUARD, BUT I IMAGINE, LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE WITH YOUR BOAT AND DUMP A COUPLE TONS OF CEMENT OVER THE SIDE.
IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY LARGE PROJECT THAT GETS SEEN.
I MEAN, I IMAGINE THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT THAT HAS TO GO INTO IT.
THEN I IMAGINE THERE'S A COST AS WELL. YES. GETTING SOME SORT OF PERMIT FOR DUMPING INTO THE WATER.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE REGULATIONS LIKE THE SIZE OF THINGS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DUMP, DEPENDING UPON HOW FAR OUT YOU ARE WITHIN THREE MILES, BASICALLY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DUMP ANYTHING. SO YOU NEED A PERMIT.
I THINK YOU MIGHT ALSO NEED TO GET SOMETHING FROM THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION. HOW FAR OUT IS THIS? ABOUT A MILE. YEAH, YEAH, AND FISH AND WILDLIFE HAS ALREADY DONE THIS, AND DAN TOLD ME THEY'RE WORKING ON NEW, NEW GUIDELINES. SO I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE STOP AND ANOTHER STICKER ON MY, YOU KNOW, FISHING LICENSE, BUT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THIS GOES.
SO, ROGER, ARE YOU LOOKING TO US FOR AN ENDORSEMENT FOR YOU TO PROCEED OR TO ENDORSE A LETTER? WHAT WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU NEED FROM US? TONIGHT ON PAGE THREE? I HAVE A HANDFUL OF ENDORSEMENTS, SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, ENDORSED BY REDONDO BEACH HARBOR COMMISSION.
SO A VOTE OF SUPPORT WOULD THEN INCLUDE THIS COMMISSION ON YOUR LIST.
YEAH. I WOULD JUST ADD A SENTENCE TO THIS LIST.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A LETTER. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR FUNDING.
I'M GOING TO CHASE THIS. EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU DON'T VOTE TO ENDORSE IT.
I MOVE TO ENDORSE ROGER'S LETTER, AND I'LL SECOND THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? POINT OF ORDER.
DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, WE DO NEED PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU. LEE, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ZOOMS? WE HAVE NO COMMENTS, AND SORRY. BEAR WITH ME, AND WE HAVE NO COMMENTS ON ZOOM.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME. ALL RIGHT.
AFTER NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? YOU'VE GOT YOUR ENDORSEMENT. THANK YOU.
NICE PICTURES. THIS WILL BE FUN. YEAH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR THE TIME. OKAY.
WHERE AM I ON THE AGENDA? HERE. GET BACK TO. WHERE'S MY AGENDA? OKAY, WE ARE AT... COME ON.
HERE WE GO. DIRECTION TO STAFF AND COMMISSIONER CARLSON.
WE'VE DONE THAT. SO NOW WE ARE AT ITEMS FROM STAFF.
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ANYTHING FOR US? THAT WOULD BE US, RIGHT? IS THAT THE LIAISON REPORT? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? THAT'S NEXT. OKAY. WELL, THEN.[00:55:02]
NO. OKAY, THEN WE'LL GO TO LIAISONS REPORT, WHICH MAY I ASK WHY IT CHANGED FROM DIRECTOR'S REPORT? YES. THERE'S BEEN AN ONUS FROM COUNCIL TO MAKE ALL OF THE COMMISSION AGENDAS AT LEAST SIMILAR IN NATURE AND HOW THEY'RE ALL LABELED, AND NOT EVERY COMMISSION IS HAS A DIRECTOR, THAT'S DOING IT.A LOT OF THE TIMES IT'S JUST ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER.
SO THEY'RE JUST CALLED LIAISONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
LIAISON. YEAH. OKAY. JUST SOME SOME UPDATES FOR YOU GUYS.
THE NEW PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH PROJECT. WE DO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS.
THE CONSULTANT, AS THE LAST UPDATE WAS, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR TRAFFIC, OUR PARKING, OUR CIRCULATION STUDIES, OUR DEMAND STUDIES. THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN SUBMITTED.
OUR TEAM OF INTERNAL PROFESSIONALS HAVE REVIEWED THOSE AND PROVIDED COMMENTS.
A LOT OF THOSE HAVE RETURNED, SOME OF THEM NOT QUITE YET.
WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THESE STUDIES FINALIZED, WE DO PLAN TO CALL A MEETING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER CARLSON, CALLAHAN AND CHRZAN, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, AND WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE STUDIES, SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.
SO IT WILL SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE, AND LET THE DESIGN PROCESS COMMENCE FROM THERE.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE PROBABLY WEEKS, IF NOT A MONTH AWAY, SO, I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.
THE MARINA PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS AS WELL.
IF YOU NOTICE, WE WERE DIVIDING THE PROJECT INTO TWO PHASES.
THE NORTH HALF OF THE LOT, WHICH SERVES THE NEW SURF CLUB AND SEASIDE LAGOON, AND THE SOUTH HALF, WHICH IS CAPTAIN KIDD'S, THE NEW CANTINA, R10 .
THE PORTION RIGHT IN FRONT OF CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THE NEW PATH OF TRAVEL FROM THE BUILDINGS ALL THE WAY UP TO HARBOR HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
ALL OF THOSE NEW SIDEWALKS ARE NOW WITHIN ADA SLOPE REQUIREMENTS, WITH NO MORE THAN A 2% SLOPE.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE NORTHERN TIP AS WELL, WHICH SERVES WHICH IS MOST LIKELY SERVED BY SEASIDE LAGOON, BUT THE SEWER PUMP PROJECT IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BEACH LIFE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SETTING UP HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A WEEK IN BETWEEN POTENTIALLY THE SEWER PUMP PROJECT BEING DONE IN BEACHLIFE.
WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO TIGHT OF A WINDOW TO TRY TO GET IN AND GET OUT BEFORE BEACHLIFE NEEDED THE SPACE, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER BEACHLIFE. LIKEWISE, PHASE TWO WILL HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER BEACH LIFE, PROBABLY AT THE SAME TIME AS THAT NORTHERN TIP.
ALL GOOD THINGS. THE DINGHY DOCK IS INCORPORATED WITH THAT.
IT'S TAKING WHERE CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB WAS KIND OF NEAR THE FOSS BUILDING.
THAT DOCK RIGHT THERE WILL BECOME A DINGHY DOCK.
OKAY, SO I LED WITH THIS IN THE STRAT PLAN ITEM, BUT THE BREAKWALL REPAIR IS BACK ON TRACK.
THEY'VE GOT ALL THE PROPER PERMITS THAT THEY NEED.
THEY DO PLAN ON MID APRIL. MAY, SORRY. MAY 15TH WILL BE THE STARTING POINT FOR THAT PROJECT.
YOU'LL START SEEING THEM MOBILIZE, START SETTING UP PREP SITES, STORAGE SITES.
IT'S GOING TO BE NEAR MOONSTONE PARK AND THEN ANOTHER SMALL AREA NEAR THE YACHT CLUB ITSELF.
MOST OF IT WILL BE MOONSTONE PARK THOUGH AND THAT IS EXPECTED TO TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
IT'S GOING TO BE THROUGH NOVEMBER OF 2025 IF EVERYTHING REMAINS ON TRACK.
SO WHEN DOES THAT START? MAY 15TH. OKAY, SO REAL SOON.
THE SEA BASS GROW PENS CONTINUES TO OGRESS. WE'VE GOT OUR PERMIT IN WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
NOTHING'S CHANGED THERE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM YET, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DENIED EITHER. SO THAT'S A GREAT THING, AND FABRICATION OFF SITE FABRICATION HAS ALREADY STARTED AS WELL. THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE BY JULY, AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO BE DONE BY JULY.
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THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. THEY PROVIDED US SOME COMMENTS, SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE PLANS REFLECT THOSE.WE HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR THEM, BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT SCHEDULE IS PLANNING TO HAVE ENTITLEMENTS IN FRONT OF THIS BODY IN AUGUST AND HOPEFULLY COASTAL COMMISSION SHORTLY THEREAFTER, AND WE'RE ON TRACK FOR THAT AS WELL.
THE NONPROFIT SAILING GROUP THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE AT THE TWO PORTOFINO SLIPS.
THAT CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY BOTH PARTIES.
BOTH ATTORNEYS HAVE SIGNED OFF ON IT. IT'S BEEN AGREED TO.
IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL NOW LEND ITSELF TO HAVING JULIE COLE AS THE OPERATOR OF A SAILING INSTRUCTION COURSE ON THE TWO PORTOFINO SLIPS, AND THEN JUST A REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, LEASING UPDATE.
THE PIER PLAZA OFFICE COMPLEX HAS A 10% VACANCY RATE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD. WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I THINK IT WAS MORE LIKE 30 OR 35%.
10% IS A HEALTHY VACANCY RATE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ATTRITION IN THERE.
SO WE'VE GOT FOUR POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT ARE READY TO FILL SOME OF THAT 10% VACANCY.
THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY SITES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE STRAT PLAN, WHICH IS GOLD'S GYM, THE FUN FACTORY, THE UNDEVELOPED PAD TWO, JOE'S CRAB SHACK AND THE FUTURE FOOD HALL.
YEAH. OH, NO, AND THE MAISON RIZ. OH. MAISON RIZ.
YEAH, MAISON RIZ AS WELL. SO WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THOSE DONE.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT FOR MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE MAY HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING.
WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE SLATED TO COME FOR THE CUPS FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPERATING WITHIN BASIN THREE WITHIN THE SLIPS. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE READY UNTIL JUNE, AND SPEAKING WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHO'S REVIEWING IT RIGHT NOW. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SLATED FOR MAY, WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY A BAD THING BECAUSE I'LL BE FOCUSED ON IT'S THE BUDGET PROCESS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL; WE WILL BE GOING TO ABOUT 4 OR 5 MEETINGS FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO CANCEL THE MEETING FOR LACK OF BUSINESS, YOU COULD.
OTHERWISE, WE COULD RECONVENE AND I COULD DO ANOTHER DIRECTOR'S REPORT IF YOU WANTED TO. OR IF YOU HAD ANOTHER TOPIC IN MIND, LIKE ROGER'S REEF SITUATION. I COULD HELP SUPPORT ONE OF THOSE IDEAS, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE AN ITEM TO DISCUSS PER SE, BUT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'D BE ALL IN FAVOR OF NAMING THE REEF ROGER'S REEF .
[CHUCKLING] ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
OF COURSE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR LIAISON? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE BREAKWALL REPAIR.
COULD YOU SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH SPACE THEIR OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE IN THE WATER, IN THE MOONSTONE PARK AND IN THE PARKING LOTS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH THE WHOLE THE HIGHEST USE OF THE.
IT WILL BE ON MOONSTONE PARK. IT WILL BE THAT PARKING LOT THAT FRONTS THE NOT THE PARKING LOT THAT IS SITS IN BETWEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE PARK, BUT THE ONE THAT'S EVEN MORE NORTH OF THAT, THE PENINSULA OF LITTLE ROUNDABOUT. YEAH. THE ROUNDABOUT. THE WEST END OF MARINA WAY.
YES. THE FREE PARKING. YES. SO THERE WON'T BE FREE PARKING.
OKAY. SO IT WILL IT WILL TAKE UP A LOT OF THE PARKING THAT LANAKILA USES.
CORRECT. WELL, WE SHOULD TALK TO KING HARBOR ABOUT USING SOME OF THEIR SPOTS FOR LANAKILA.
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GREAT. SORRY. SORRY. SO YOU WERE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE UP PART OF THAT PARKING OR THAT WHOLE, PRETTY MUCH THAT WHOLE WEST SIDE OF THAT BULB OUT RIGHT THERE? OH, JUST THE WEST SIDE? YEAH. OKAY, AND THEN THERE'LL BE IN THE PARK TO SUGGEST.CORRECT. IT'LL BE MAYBE TEN FEET OF ENCROACHMENT, IF THAT.
OKAY. RIGHT BY THOSE TREES, AND . THAT'S ALSO A BIG HANGOUT WHERE THERE'S, LIKE, A COUPLE TABLES RIGHT IN THAT CORNER. YEAH. WE'D HAVE TO MOVE THE TABLES FOR SURE.
OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE AREA. OKAY. RIGHT, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT IN THE WATER? IS IT? I IMAGINE A LOT LESS SPACE THAN THE DREDGING TOOK.
ACTUALLY, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. OH, WE DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T. OKAY. WE COULD FIND OUT FOR YOU. I CAN PROBABLY TALK TO THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH PUBLIC WORKS, BUT. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. YEAH, AND THEN KIND OF ALONG WITH THAT, JUST ARE ALL THE STAKEHOLDER.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE COMMUNITY WHO'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BUT WON'T KNOW IT UNTIL THEY SHOW UP AND THERE'S NO PARKING AND BUT ARE THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AWARE. HAVE THEY BEEN NOTIFIED? YEAH. WE START WITH THE BASIN ONE OPERATOR, THE MAJESTIC GROUP, AND WE LET THEM KIND OF MATRICULATE THE INFORMATION, BUT THEN I REACHED OUT DIRECTLY TO THE YACHT CLUB AND TO LANAKILA BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WOULD BE AFFECTED THE MOST . OKAY, AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION ON THE MAISON RIZ.
DO WE KNOW I MEAN I KNOW SOME OF THE FACTORS OF WHY THINGS DIDN'T GET LEASED OUT, BUT DO WE KNOW ALL THE FACTORS OF WHY THAT'S BEEN SO LONG IN GETTING LEASED OUT. ARE THERE ISSUES WITH THE SPACE INTERNALLY THAT IT IS A RESTAURANT SPACE THAT IS OVERSEEN BY A MASTER LEASE HOLDER. SO THE CITY IS NOT ESSENTIALLY OBLIGATED TO RENT IT OUT.
WE'RE GETTING IMPATIENT WITH THE MASTER LEASE HOLDER.
SO WE'RE IMPLEMENTING SOME TACTICS TO TRY TO SPUR SOME MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIMO SPOT.
YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT INSULIN TO WORRY.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S PRETTY CRAZY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TENANT IN THERE.
YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS FOR A QUICK QUESTION.
SO THERE USED TO BE A 4TH OF JULY EVENT DOWN AT SEASIDE LAGOON, RIGHT, AND THAT WAS ORGANIZED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? NO, THAT'S A CITY SPONSORED EVENT. OKAY. IT'D BE INTERESTING TO BRING SOME OF THAT STUFF BACK SOMETIME.
YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING ROLLING, YOU KNOW, 4TH OF JULY.
WE'RE HAVING THAT AGAIN. ANY EVENTS, ANY OF THOSE? I'M A BIG FAN OF ANYTHING THAT DRAWS CROWDS DOWN TO THE HARBOR, ESSENTIALLY, AND I GET CREATIVE ON IT. I JUST WAS USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
I'D LOVE TO GET A HAUNTED HOUSE OR SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY KIND OF HOLIDAY TYPE EVENT.
THAT'D BE . THEY HAD A SKATE RINK AT ONE POINT, RIGHT DOWN FOR.
YEAH. SO ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WAS CHAMBER DRIVEN STUFF OR HOW MUCH OF THE CITY DRIVEN STUFF, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO RESURRECT THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, MOTIVATE OR, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK YOU JUST COLD CALL, RIGHT? YOU JUST COLD CALL OPERATORS AND SAY, HEY, WOULD WOULD YOU WANT TO RELOCATE HERE? YEAH. WELL, THAT KIND OF GOES TO KIND OF YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE MENTIONED IT WITH THE AMENITIES PLAN IS MORE CONVERSATION WITH PARKS AND REC RECREATION AND PARKS COMMISSION AND THAT DEPARTMENT, WITH THE CITY, WITH OUR COMMISSION, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT DIRECT OVERLAP OF SOME OF IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUT ON BY THEM, FOR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S START DOWN AT THIS END AGAIN.
GOOD. ANYTHING FOR THE LIAISON. LISA? NO? LEE? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO BOTH RELATED TO PARKING.
SO ON THE WHEN WE REDO THE PARKING AND RESTRIPING IN THE REDONDO BEACH MARINA AREA IS THAT GOING TO WORK? SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN VETERANS PARK, WHERE YOU GOT A PAY STATION AND YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF APPS? CORRECT. I HAVE HEARD THAT PARKING ENFORCEMENT HAS ISSUES ENFORCING PARKING IN VETERANS PARK BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S JUST TOO HARD FOR THEM TO CHECK EVERYTHING OUT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TOO MANY THINGS TO CHECK. SO HAVE YOU TALKED TO THERE ABOUT THAT ON THE PROJECT TEAM? I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT. OKAY. YEAH, AND I WILL BRING IT UP, THOUGH.
SO AND NOW, AS TO THE DINGHY PARKING, I'M STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CHARGING FOR DINGHY PARKING,
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AND ONE THING, AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU WANT TO BASICALLY USE THE SAME PARKING APPS THAT ARE USED FOR THE PARKING LOT.SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK FOR NON-MOTORIZED DINGHIES WHICH ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED? I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW. SO I THINK YOU HAVE AN ISSUE THERE.
YEAH, BECAUSE IF YOU GOT A, YOU KNOW, A BOAT PULLS IN, IF YOU JUST GOT A DINGHY WITH A ROWBOAT, HE, HE DOES MOST LIKELY DOESN'T HAVE CF NUMBERS.
THEY DON'T NEED CF NUMBERS. I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE A PERSON DOWN THERE TO CHARGE THEM TOO.
I MEAN, YEAH, BIGGER EXPENSE. I'VE ALREADY GOT PEOPLE DOWN THERE.
OKAY, AND I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE THE FRIDAY NIGHT CAR SHOWS, LIKE.
OKAY, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME EMAILS FLYING AROUND.
THE CITY COMPLETELY SUPPORTS IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS, I DO. SORRY. OKAY. NO.
GO AHEAD. LESLIE, THANKS FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS ON DREDGING.
YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT MORE.
YEAH. IF YOU FIND OUT MORE, PLEASE DON'T JUST REPLY TO LESLIE.
PLEASE. LIKE, THROW THAT IN KURT'S HARBORMASTER REPORT OR SOMETHING JUST TO GET THAT.
JUST DETAILS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. YEAH. WOULD YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW IT'S COMING? YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET CHEWED ON AND SO DO ALL OF US, AND THEN, IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BEACH LIFE FESTIVAL? ALL THE PLANS FOR THAT GOING WELL? ANYTHING DIFFERENT? SO FAR, SO GOOD. WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATION, IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.
FOR THE 1 IN 2 WEEKS. MAY. COPY THAT. REALLY? LET IT LIE. WOW. WE'LL BE FINE. WE'LL BE FINE.
GREAT, AND THEN LAST THING SEEING THE WRITTEN UP LIAISONS REPORT AND THEN ALSO SEEING ALL OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN STUFF, ESPECIALLY ALL THE CROSSED OUT ITEMS, MAN.
ADVERTISE THAT. YEAH. THROW THAT ON THE WEB PAGE.
THROW THIS INTO KURT'S REPORT EVERY MONTH. YOU KNOW, PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS.
DON'T JUST BURY IT IN THE BACK OF AN AGENDA AND THROW IT INTO MINUTES.
LIKE WE'RE JUST. YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO BECAUSE A LOT OF IT'S LIKE THE GROUNDWORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T SEE THE NICE NEW BUILDING JUST YET BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY UP TOWARDS IT, YOU KNOW, BUT JUST YEAH, JUST THIS TWO PAGE LIAISONS REPORT, JUST STAPLE THAT TO THE BACK OF KURT'S MONTHLY REPORT AND SEND IT OUT OR TO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, COUNCIL PERSON CASTLE'S NEWSLETTER OR SOMETHING.
PLEASE, PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS. IT'S GOOD STUFF.
YEAH. THANKS. YEAH. OKAY. LESLIE, ONE MORE BACK TO THE DREDGING.
I'M GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER PITCH FOR YOUR BREAKWALL .
BIKE RACKS. OH, YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OLD BIKE RACKS THAT WE COULD THROW DOWN THERE, OR MONEY TO PUT SOME IN THERE, LIKE MAYBE SOME PARTS NEARBY CITIES HAVE SOME IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, BACK LOT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, THERE'S 70- 80 PEOPLE, RIGHT, THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY THAT ARE TRYING TO PARK DOWN THERE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SPOTS GONE.
PLUS A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BIKE IF THERE WERE BIKE RACKS, BUT IF WE COULD ADD SOME ON, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE TWO SIDES OF MOONSTONE PARK FOR SUMMER, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE ALSO INFORMATIVE FOR THE AMENITIES PLAN JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT THE NEED, YOU KNOW, HOW HIGH COULD THE UTILIZATION BE AND EASE PARKING ALONG HARBOR DRIVE AND THAT LOT IF WE HAD MORE BIKE RACKS NORTH OF. YEAH, NORTH OF PORTOFINO WAY.
OKAY, AND ALSO, AS THOSE THINGS AGE, WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT AND DUMP THEM ONTO ROGER'S REEF.
THEY'RE PERFECT. THEY'RE THREE DIMENSIONAL, AND WE JUST ADD NEW ONES.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE, TOO. OKAY. YEAH. SO I ASKED YOU TO TACK ON TO WHAT LESLIE SAID.
BIKE RACKS OR SOMETHING I THINK IS REALLY NEEDED THERE. YEAH. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS NOW IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE LOCKING UP BIKES TO THE RAILINGS ALONG THE WALKWAYS NEXT TO WHERE THE DOCKS ARE, WHICH INTERFERE WITH THINGS LIKE DOCK CARTS, AND ALSO GETTING BACK TO THE BREAKWALL REPAIR.
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WE REALLY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE WORD OUT THERE ON THAT.OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE FOR LAST MINUTE? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TO ADJOURNMENT.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND IT.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. SEE YOU GUYS NEXT MONTH. WHERE'S MARK HANSEN?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.