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          TODAY'S OR TONIGHT'S MEETING ON MAY 15TH OF THE REDONDO BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          [A. CALL TO ORDER]
CAN I START WITH A ROLL CALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS? JAMAL. I S YOUR MIC ON, JAMAL? YEAH, I THINK SO. 
          JAMAL. JAMAL. JAMAL. OH, YEAH. WE WERE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          NO, ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER LIGHT. PRESENT. COMMISSIONERS BOSWELL. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER
YOUNG. PRESENT. COMMISSIONERS GADDIS. HERE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. HERE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. 
          HERE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WOULD MISS YOUNG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE SALUTE TO THE
FLAG? SURE. RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. NOW, NEXT, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA. 
          [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA SECOND. 
          I'LL VOTE ALL I. MOTION IS APPROVED. AGENDA IS APPROVED. 
          I THINK NEXT IS BLUE FOLDER. DO WE HAVE A BLUE FOLDER? 
          [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
ITEMS TO RECEIVE AND FILE FOR THE MEETING. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FOLDER ITEMS IF
THERE ARE ANY OTHER? YEAH, THERE ARE SOME. THERE ARE REALLY 100 EMAILS. 
          HOLY MOLY. I DIDN'T SEE THEM. WERE THEY IN AN EMAIL TO US? THEY SENT TO TWO DIFFERENT ATTACHMENTS, BUT YEAH,
IT'S A LONG IT'S A BIG ONE. 
          IT CAME OUT YESTERDAY. IT CAME OUT YESTERDAY. 
          YEAH. OH, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OF THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          SECOND THAT I'LL VOTE IN FAVOR? AYE. WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? WE'RE APPROVING THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT. I
DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE ANY WAS BUSY TODAY. 
          I GOT THEM YESTERDAY. OKAY. NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR,
AND LET'S SEE. 
          [F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
THESE ARE BUSINESS ITEMS, EXCEPT THOSE FORMALLY NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR THIS POLL FOR
DISCUSSION ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM BE REMOVED,
DISCUSSED, AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. 
          ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR
SECTION BELOW. 
          THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION. THE CHAIR
WILL CALL IN ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PULLED BY THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE,
AND COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES. 
          SO I GUESS THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO WE WANT TO APPROVE THE ANYONE WANT TO DISCUSS
ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, ANY MOTIONS OR PULL ANYTHING? WHERE DO WE F,
WHICH IS THE I KNOW MY QUESTION IS WHEN WOULD WE PROPOSE A CHANGE IN THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? WE DID THAT PRIOR ON THE. OKAY. I MISSED MY OPPORTUNITY. 
          OKAY. I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE DO THE HEARING FOR THE GYMNASTICS BEFORE WE DO THE
HEARING ON THE LIQUOR STORE. CAN WE MAKE THAT MOTION AT THIS POINT,
OR HAVE WE ALREADY GONE PAST THAT? WHY DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO BACK,
HAVE SOMEONE SECOND IT, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. 
          I GUESS TO GO BACK. I COULD BE WRONG. MY SENSES,
I SENSE THAT THE LIQUOR STORE. 
          HEARING MAY GO LONGER THAN THE ONE ON THE GYMNASTICS LOCATION. 
          LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE. DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO REEXAMINE
THAT, OR ARE WE OUT OF ORDER IF WE DO THAT? CAN WE SURVEY THE GALLERY AND FIND OUT WHO'S ALL IN, WHO'S ALL HERE FOR THE GYMNASTICS AND WHO'S ALL HERE FOR THE LIQUOR STORE? CAN WE DO THE GYMNASTICS FIRST? I NEED A MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE. 
          I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA TO DO THE GYMNASTICS HEARING FIRST OR PRIOR
TO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SO MOTIONED. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO PROBLEM. 
          NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL, AND IS THAT OKAY, MARC? OR DO YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE? IT IS. YES. YOU CAN YOU CAN GO ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS DONE. 
          OR YOU COULD REOPEN ITEM D TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA AND CHANGE IT,
BUT I THINK SINCE THE ACTION WAS 
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FAIRLY BENIGN, THAT'S FINE THAT YOU VOTED ON IT AT THIS STAGE IN THE MEETING. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARC. OKAY. SO NEXT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON
NON-AGENDA ITEMS. I BELIEVE THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR. 
          ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MEETINGS FIRST ONLY FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          OR DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE THOSE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE APPROVED THOSE TWO ITEMS YET. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO DOES AGAIN BACK ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF
NON-AGENDA ITEMS. 
          [H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
THE SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO
ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE WRITTEN. 
          REQUEST, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THE SECTION. 
          JAMAL, HAS ANYONE TURNED IN ANY CARDS TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT? OH, THE WHAT? THERE'S EVERYTHING. OH, OKAY. 
          OH, INDEED, J2. OKAY. ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN ARE ACTUALLY FOR ITEM J2,
SO WE WILL HOLD THOSE. 
          THE NEXT ITEM THAT COMES UP ARE THERE ANY COMMENTERS ONLINE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON
NON-AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT? THERE ARE NO ATTENDEES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          [I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]
THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO ALLOW ALL OFFICIALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVEAL ANY DISCLOSURE
OF ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          COMMISSIONER LIGHT, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMUNICATION TO REPORT,
MR. BOSWELL? NOTHING. MR. YOUNG. MRS. YOUNG. I'M SORRY,
COMMISSIONER. 
          NO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. NONE. COMMISSIONER CONROY . 
          I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAIGE KALUDEROVIC. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE, I HAD CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL PERSON OBAGI AND THE
GENERAL PUBLIC, AND THAT'S IT. OH, AND COMMISSIONER CRAIG. CHAIR CRAIG. 
          OKAY. I HAD TO A S COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE MENTIONED,
I HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. RECORD, AND SINCE WE ARE STARTING ON ITEM J2,
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND 
          [J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE OPERATION OF A GYMNASTICS COMPANY. 
          AERIAL GYMNASTICS CLUB FOR CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS AGES 2 TO 17,
WITH AN EXISTING 24,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL SPACE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2701 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND THE COMMERCIAL C-1 ZONE,
AND I BELIEVE, STAFF, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS STEVEN GIANG. I'LL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT'S ITEM
FOR. 
          TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF A GYMNASTICS COMPANY FOR CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS AGES 2 TO 17,
WITH AN EXISTING 24,000FT² COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THE C-1 ZONE. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND WEST OF
INGLEWOOD AVENUE. 
          THE SITE ITSELF IS ZONED C-1. PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE INDUSTRIAL ZONED INDUSTRIAL I
ONE. 
          PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL IC. 
          INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL IC-1 PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH CONTAIN A MIXTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND SCHOOL FACILITY ZONES. THE CITY OF LAWNDALE ALSO ABUTS THE PROPERTY TO THE
EAST. 
          THE SITE ITSELF CONTAINS A CONTAINS TWO TWO WAY DRIVEWAYS ON INGLEWOOD AVENUE AND THREE
TWO WAY DRIVEWAYS ON MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. 
          THE TENANT SPACE ITSELF IS 24,000FT². HERE IS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PROPOSED SPACE. 
          IT'S LOCATED KIND OF IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE LOT. 
          THE TENANT SPACE ITSELF WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY $0.99 ONLY STORE. 
          THE PROPOSED BUSINESS OFFERS GYMNASTICS, CHEER,
DANCE, NINJA CLASSES, SEASONAL DAY CAMPS, AND BIRTHDAY EVENTS. THE PROPOSED BUSINESS HOURS ARE 9 A.M. 
          TO 8 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 8 A.M. TO 8 P.M. 
          ON FRIDAY, 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. ON SATURDAY, AND 9 A.M. 
          TO 5 P.M. ON SUNDAY. THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WILL RANGE FROM SIX STUDENTS UP TO 20 WHEN
IT'S FOR CLASSES, 
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AND THEN THERE ARE SCHEDULED BIRTHDAY EVENTS OR BIRTHDAY BLOCKS ON THE WEEKENDS THAT WILL
INCLUDE THAT WILL HAVE AROUND 30 TO 40 PEOPLE, WHICH INCLUDES THE PARENTS AND THE KIDS. EACH DAY IS SCHEDULED TO HAVE A SET NUMBER OF
CLASSES. 
          THEY RANGE FROM 45 TO 60 MINUTES EACH, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE PERIOD IN
BETWEEN EACH CLASS, SO THAT IT ALLOWS FOR THE TRANSITION OF STUDENTS AND PARENTS BETWEEN EACH SESSION. 
          THE PROPOSED SPACE CONTAINS A VARIETY OF EQUIPMENT AND ACTIVITIES. 
          THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO FLOOR EXERCISE AREAS, SIX BALANCE BEAMS,
TWO TUMBLING STRIPS, ONE FOAM PIT, FIVE SETS OF UNEVEN BARS, ONE OBSTACLE COURSE,
ONE ROCK WALL CLIMBING ROPES, AND TWO EXERCISE ROOMS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A SMALL SECOND FLOOR OFFICE FOR THIS USE THAT WILL BE USED FOR
ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES. 
          THE SITE. THE SITE ITSELF CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 223 PARKING SPACES. 
          ANALYSIS OF THE OPERATIONS PLAN. THE EXISTING 24,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACES REQUIRES,
AS PROPOSED, 26 PARKING SPACES, FIVE FOR EMPLOYEES AND 21 FOR PARENTS AND STUDENTS,
OUR STUDENTS AND PARENTS. 
          THE GYMNASTICS GYMNASTICS STUDIO ALSO INTENDS TO USE BOTH THE REAR AND FRONT ENTRANCES,
WHICH WILL HELP ALLEVIATE CONGESTION AND CROWDING AT THE FRONT OF THE STUDIO DURING PEAK HOURS. AN ANALYSIS. AN ANALYSIS PERFORMED BY STAFF INDICATES THAT ALL OF THE USES ON SITE, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED USE, WOULD REQUIRE A TOTAL OF 150 PARKING SPACES,
ACCORDING TO THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          THE SITE. WHILE THE SITE ITSELF THE SITE ITSELF,
HAS AN INVENTORY OF 223 SPACES, THE AVAILABLE PARKING AREAS PROVIDE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED USE AND ALL EXISTING USES ON THE SITE. 
          STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT, BASED ON THE OPERATION,
PROPOSED THAT THE PARKING IS ADEQUATE FOR THE SITE. 
          HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS THAT WAS TAKEN ON WEDNESDAY AT 12. 
          THE TOP PHOTO IS THE REAR LOT, SO 26 SPACES EXIST HERE AND ARE DEDICATED TO THE PROPOSED
USE FOR EITHER EMPLOYEES AND BOTH PARENTS AND STUDENTS SHOULD THEY WANT TO USE THE REAR DROP OFF,
AND THIS IS A SITE. 
          THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE. THE FRONT PARKING LOT AT THE SAME TIME. 
          STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED USE MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT. 
          THE PROPERTY IS ADEQUATE IN SIZE AND SHAPE. THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS PROVIDE ADEQUATE
ACCESS. 
          THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING ON SITE. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO DETAIL THE NUMBER
OF HOURS THAT THE USE OCCUR ENTIRELY WITHIN THE INTERIOR SPACE, AND THAT THE APPLICANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OBTAINING AN ACOUSTICAL DESIGN ANALYSIS AND TO
IMPLEMENT ALL SOUND CONTROL DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT PLANS WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING AND SAFETY DIVISION FOR PLAN CHECK. 
          BASED ON THE FINDINGS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING, TAKE TESTIMONY, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A DETERMINATION REGARDING THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE OPERATION OF A GYMNASTICS COMPANY, ALSO KNOWN AS AERIAL GYMNASTICS CLUB, FOR CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS AGES 2 TO 17 WITHIN AN
EXISTING 24,000FT² COMMERCIAL SPACE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 701 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD IN THE COMMERCIAL C-1 ZONE. 
          THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT AND STAFF ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD. SHOULD WE DO A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SURE. 
          SO THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY IN THE BACK LOT,
IS THAT CORRECT? F ROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I BELIEVE THE CONCERN WAS MORE CONGESTION ALONG THE FRONT OF
THE LOT FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS IT WAS. 
          THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION,
AND WHETHER OR NOT PARENT STUDENT DROP OFF WAS GOING TO BE AFFECTED. 
          OKAY, I THOUGHT I ALSO SAW SOMETHING REGARDING A POSSIBLE TRANSIT ACTIVITY ALONG THE BACK. 
          NO, I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT ON MY SITE VISIT, I DID NOT WITNESS ANY OF THAT. 
          WE CURED THAT PROBLEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN,
THAT'S FINE. 
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OKAY. NOW I GUESS RIGHT NOW, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THE
APPLICANT OR ANYONE ELSE? IN THE AUDIENCE. CAN YOU PLEASE STAND, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? CAN WE PLEASE? YEAH. APPLICANT. 
          SO WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC. 
          YOU SWEAR TO. YOU [INAUDIBLE] . DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COME ON UP. COME ON UP. 
          OKAY, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. 
          THANKS. HELLO. MY NAME IS FAUSTINO GOMEZ IV AND I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SECURITY THAT
HE DIDN'T MENTION. 
          A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I TOOK MY SIX YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TO JIU JITSU FACILITY RIGHT IN THAT
SAME COMPLEX. 
          MY, ACTUALLY, MY WIFE TOOK HER FIRST, AND THEN I MET WITH HER LIKE A HALF AN HOUR LATER
DURING THE TRAINING, AND I DID SEE A HOMELESS PERSON THAT SEEMS OUT OF SITES OR OUT OF WITS. SO WE NEVER WENT BACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT MY WIFE TAKING MY SIX YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
TO A PLACE THAT SEEMED UNSAFE, AND THEN WHEN I DID PARK THERE, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO PARK. 
          I HAD BEEN THERE AT NIGHT USING THE SHELL GAS STATION LATER ON. 
          THAT'S USUALLY MY MODE TO GO ON THE 405 AND I HAVE SEEN THE PARKING LOT'S DARK AND IT DOES
FEEL A LITTLE UNSAFE. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          OKAY. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT. 
          YOU'RE JUST. YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST THE GYMNASTICS PLACE OR FOR WHAT I REALLY WANT IS
MORE POLICE SURVEILLANCE, BECAUSE WHENEVER I'M THERE, IT FEELS UNSAFE. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE FREEWAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S NO POLICE PRESENCE,
AND I WOULD NOT WANT MY DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE TO BE THERE WITHOUT ME. OKAY, SO YOU WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THE CLASS OR YOU'RE
JUST COMMENTING ON THE PARKING LOT? I'M SO CONFUSED. DID HE SAY HE WAS THE APPLICANT? I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE APPLICANT. I'M SORRY. I THINK HE'S BRINGING A SECURITY. YOU'RE THE
APPLICANT ? O KAY, COME ON UP. I WROTE HIM, IS THAT OKAY? OKAY,
NOW I'M CLEAR. 
          NOW I'M CLEAR. SORRY. I WROTE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. 
          DOES THAT NOT MAKE ME AN APPLICANT? NO, NO, NO,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICATION. 
          THE APPLICANT. THAT'S OKAY. I'M SO SORRY. IT'S FINE,
IT'S FINE. 
          NO PROBLEM. I THOUGHT I APPLIED TO SPEAK. NO,
NO NO, NO, THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. PERFECT. 
          SO I GUESS WE SHOULD. I GUESS THREE MINUTES,
I GUESS. 
          YEAH. PUT A TIMER ON HIM . YEAH. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. MOTION TO EXTEND, AND I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SECOND, SECOND. GO AHEAD. SO YOU'RE MAINLY UP HERE INFORMING THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT
THERE IS, IN YOUR OPINION, A SECURITY ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SECURITY IN THE GENERAL
REGION AROUND THIS, THIS POTENTIAL NEW BUSINESS. I DOUBT THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY OR DO IS GOING TO INCREASE
POLICE PRESENCE THERE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE, BUT PERHAPS THE LANDOWNER, THE O WNER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER COULD BE
PROVIDING SOME SECURITY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T SEE PRIVATE SECURITY GUARDS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE THERE? NO, THERE WAS NOT. 
          SO THAT'S PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE UP WITH. 
          WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION THERE. 
          THERE ARE CERTAINLY HOMELESS EVERYWHERE, AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE DANGEROUS,
BUT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, DO YOU? CORRECT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. SO SHOULD WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND SPEAK AT THIS
POINT? YOU CAN'T COMPEL HIM TO DO IT. YEAH, IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I THINK THAT'S ANY OF YOUR TIME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. SO I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO PUBLIC
COMMENT, THEN. PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH. YOU'RE THERE. WE'RE THERE ALREADY. 
          SO I GUESS I SHOULD READ THE CARDS AT THIS POINT. WELL,
I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD HAVE THE APPLICANT. 
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DO ANY OF US HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. 
          LET'S GO THROUGH ANY ANY THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME,
AND HAVE YOU ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN? I DON'T REMEMBER. OKAY. CAN YOU, JOHN SNYDER. 
          THANK YOU. JOHN, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER CONROY. 
          OKAY. KEEPING ON THAT SAME THEME AS FAR AS SECURITY IN THE BACK. 
          I THOUGHT I'D READ SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 
          I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? JOHN. JOHN? YEAH, JOHN, BASED ON SECURITY CONCERNS YOU'VE HEARD,
AND MAYBE OTHER ONES YOU'RE AWARE OF. 
          WOULD WOULD YOU BE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PROVIDE EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND SECURITY CAMERA COVERAGE FOR THAT BACK LOT AREA? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PLAN FOR US MOVING IN. 
          WE HAVE SECURITY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A GYM IN TORRANCE,
AERIAL GYMNASTICS ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD. 
          WE HAVE SECURITY ON THE EXTERIOR, LIGHTING ON THE EXTERIOR. 
          WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS ON FULL OUT THROUGHOUT THE GYM BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESS
THAT IT IS, AND WE HAVE A RULE IN HOUSE WITH OUR COMPANY THAT NO SINGLE PERSONS AT THE GYM BY
THEMSELVES AT ONE TIME. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF FEMALE COACHES, STAFF, AND SO IT'S ALWAYS A TWO PERSON EVENT. 
          IT'S WHENEVER THEY'RE LOCKING UP AT NIGHT, IT'S TWO PEOPLE. 
          WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN THE MORNING, IT'S TWO PEOPLE. EVEN DURING THE DAY,
SOMETIMES YOU THEY GET IN EARLY, THEY TAKE CARE OF SOME TASKS. THEY HAVE A CLASS. 
          THE CLASS BREAKS AND LIKE, SAY, A 10:00 CLASS. 
          EVEN THEN, NOBODY'S EVEN DURING THE DAY, SAY AT 10:00,
11:00, 12:00. 
          WE DON'T PERMIT ANYONE TO BE IN THE GYM BY THEMSELVES. 
          OBVIOUSLY CUSTOMERS, BUT EMPLOYEES I FREQUENT IN THAT AREA. 
          I GREW UP IN THIS AREA. I DIDN'T REALLY THERE'S HOMELESS. 
          THERE'S TRANSIENT PEOPLE, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS,
THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 
          IT'S UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCE, BUT IT'S A SITUATION THAT I DON'T THINK IS ANY MORE PRESENT
THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. THROUGHOUT THE AREA. HONESTLY,
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO YOUR PART TO MAXIMIZE THE SAFETY IN THE BACK LOT THROUGH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ADEQUATE LIGHTING AND SECURITY CAMERAS IN THAT AREA. 
          VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MISTER BOSWELL? COMMISSIONER BOSWELL, TO YOU. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THANK YOU. 
          AGAIN, IN REGARDS TO SECURITY, DO YOU HAVE A FORMAL PROCEDURE DEVELOPED OR IN PLACE AT
YOUR TORRANCE STORE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY HERE? ALSO IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP THEIR KIDS? AS FAR AS KIDS CANNOT LEAVE WITHOUT AN ADULT COMING IN AND GETTING THEM,
THAT KIND OF THING. 
          YEAH, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AT THE GYM. NO KIDS GO RUNNING OUT INTO THE PARKING LOT. 
          KIDS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE GYM AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER. 
          WE HAVE A GATED AREA. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME SITUATION HERE. 
          GATED AREA THAT CONTAINS ALL THAT EQUIPMENT THAT YOU SEE THAT THE KIDS GO THROUGH CLASSES. 
          WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, 4 OR 5, SIX YEAR OLD KIDS,
SEVEN YEAR OLD KIDS. 
          SO THROUGH ALL AGES, BUT THAT'S A BIG, BIG GROUP OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE. 
          IS THAT AND IT'S A GATED, JUST A TALL, SHORT LITTLE THREE FOUR FOOT GATE THAT OPENS AND
CLOSES DURING THE CLASS PERIOD. 
          IT'S CLOSED, CHILDREN COME OUT. THE PARENTS AND THE CHILD ARE THERE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          NO OTHER CHILD. WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE A PARENT DROPPED OFF A KID FOR CLASS,
BROUGHT THEM IN, SIGNED THEM IN. THEY ALL HAVE TO BE SIGNED IN AND MARKED OFF. 
          IT'S A ROLL SO THAT WE KNOW, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE KIDS MAY NOT MAKE THAT
CLASS. 
          THEY GET A CREDIT, GET A TOKEN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CLASS UP AT SOME FUTURE DATE. 
          SO WE TAKE A ROLE FOR EVERY CLASS. SO AFTER THE KIDS DROPPED OFF,
WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE A PARENT RAN AN ERRAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THE CHILD'S THERE IN THE GYM, NOT PERMITTED TO LEAVE UNTIL A PARENT CHILD CONNECTION IS
MADE, AND WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR PROCEDURE TO ASSURE THAT THE PERSON PICKING THEM UP IS INDEED
A FAMILY MEMBER? WELL, A LOT OF THEM ARE RECOGNIZED. HIS MOTHER,
FATHER, TYPICALLY 99% OF THE TIME, MOSTLY GRANDCHILD, BUT THERE'S A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT ARE APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO PICK THE CHILD UP. 
          THEY HAVE TO SIGN A PAPER AT THE BEGINNING WHEN THEY REGISTER FOR CLASSES. 
          THERE'S A LIST THAT GOES WITH EACH CHILD FOR A RECOGNIZED PERSON THAT'S ALLOWED TO PICK
THEM UP. 
          SO IF IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT WE OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE,
YOU GET TO KNOW EVERYBODY AND YOU KNOW WHOSE PARENTS ARE WHOSE AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          IF IT WAS SOMEBODY WE WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK THE LIST,
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RELEASE THAT CHILD TO THE PARENT OR TO THAT PERSON UNTIL WE SPOKE WITH 
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THE PARENT, OR THE PARENT CAME THEMSELVES TO PICK THE CHILD UP. 
          HAVE YOU HAD EVER HAD ANY ISSUES, AT YOUR TORRANCE FACILITY OR ANY OTHERS RELATED TO
SECURITY. 
          PROBABLY THE WORST THING WE'VE HAD IS WE HAVE CAMERAS OUTSIDE. 
          SO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WE HAD SOME LARGE VASE TYPE PLANTER CONTAINERS. 
          THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, SOMEBODY CAME BY AND PUSHED THOSE OVER AND BROKE THEM. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE NEVER HAD A POLICE REPORT OR A POLICE INCIDENT AT THE TORRANCE
LOCATION. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          COMMISSIONER LIGHT. I LIVE REAL CLOSE TO THAT AREA,
AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT LOT A LOT. 
          NOT TO THE 99 CENT STORE, BUT WHEN THAT WAS THERE IT WAS QUITE CROWDED. 
          YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE LESS CARS, IT SOUNDS LIKE,
THAN 99 CENT STORE, SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG ISSUE. 
          I AM CURIOUS THOUGH, ABOUT THERE'S BACK PARKING. 
          I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2003 THREE AND I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS BACK PARK. 
          HOW DO YOU EVEN GET THERE? DID I? YEAH S O YOU COME IN WHEN YOU COME OFF OF THE INGLEWOOD
ENTRANCE. 
          WHEN YOU COME IN THE INGLEWOOD ENTRANCE, RIGHT TO THE RIGHT THERE'S A DRIVEWAY. 
          YOU TAKE THAT. SO THAT AREA BACK THERE ORIGINALLY WAS FOR TRACTOR TRAILERS,
RIGHT. 
          COMING IN TO DROP OFF TO THE 99 CENT STORE. SO THEY NEEDED A SWING AROUND AREA. 
          SO THERE'S ACTUALLY EVEN IF, IF REQUIRED, THERE WOULD BE EVEN ADDITIONAL PARKING BACK
THERE. 
          REQUIRED. RIGHT. I'M BY TRADE. I'M AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR. 
          I'M THE APPLICANT, BUT IN REALITY, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER RUN THAT COMPANY. 
          SO I FILLED OUT THE I TAKE CARE OF THE BUILD OUT PORTION BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND IN THE
GYM. 
          SO ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR AND WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT IN LIGHTING OR CAMERAS SECURITY
ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE. 
          COMMISSIONER GADDIS. YEAH. SO THE ENTRANCE IS NOT FROM THE REAR,
AT ALL. 
          THE ENTRANCE IS FROM THE. I'LL CALL IT THE GAUCHO SIDE. 
          BECAUSE THE GAUCHO MARKET IS RIGHT THERE. OKAY,
AND SO IF SOMEBODY IS PARKING IN THE BACK THERE, THEY COME AROUND THE BUILDING OR IS THERE? SO THERE'S AN ENTRANCE EXIT AT THE BACK,
BACK THERE A S WELL. 
          OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF HAVE STAFF IN THE BACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT REAL CONVENIENT FOR PARENTS TO NECESSARILY COME TO THE BACK AND DROP THE
CHILD OFF AND THAT BUT WE WANTED SMOOTH OPERATION. 
          UP FRONT. WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND CAUSE A CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER TENANTS INSIDE THE
P LAZA. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WERE UNDER YOU KNOW, SUGGESTED THAT WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE COME IN THE BACK. 
          THEY COULD HAVE THEY COULD THE PARENT COULD DROP THE CHILD OFF AT FRONT,
SWING AROUND THE FRONT, DROP THE CHILD OFF, WHICH IS WHAT THE DOJO DOES THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. 
          THEY HAVE CHILDREN'S CLASSES UNTIL I THINK THEY END AT 6:30 OR 7:00 AT NIGHT. 
          PARENTS DROP OFF THE KIDS AND THEN CAN GO PARK SO PARENTS COULD DROP OFF THE KID,
GO PARK AND COME IN THAT BACK ENTRANCE TO WATCH THEIR CHILD IN THE CLASS. 
          OKAY, AND IS IT A I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IT MORE CLOSELY. 
          IS THAT A LOADING DOCK IN THE BACK OR IS IT. THERE IS A LOADING DOCK IN THE BACK,
BUT TO THE SIDE OF THE LOADING DOCK? THERE'S TWO ACTUALLY TWO ENTRANCES IN THE BACK. 
          ON ONE SIDE, THERE'S A RAMP. APPEARS TO BE POSSIBLY A HANDICAP RAMP,
I'M NOT SURE, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, NEAR WHERE THE POWER LINES ARE, THERE'S A RAMP THERE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. I CAN I CAN PICTURE IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CONROY. 
          YOUR SCHEDULE SHOWS BIRTHDAY PARTIES OF UP TO 40 GUESTS OVERLAPPING WITH YOUR WEEKEND
CLASSES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT WOULDN'T. SO WE USUALLY END CLASSES. 
          SO IF IT SHOWS THAT, THAT'S A MISTAKE. I DIDN'T THINK I HAD THAT. 
          MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. SO THE CLASS ENDS. 
          USUALLY THERE'S A HALF AN HOUR WINDOW FOR US BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SET UP FOR THE
BIRTHDAY PARTY. 
          WE HAVE TO SET UP THE CHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE,
WE CAN'T DO THAT WHILE CLASSES ARE GOING ON. 
          SO TYPICALLY THE CLASS WOULD END. WE HAVE A HALF AN HOUR OR SO GRACE PERIOD,
AND THEN WE'D SET UP WHATEVER DECORATIONS THE PARENTS HAD BROUGHT OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEN WE LIMIT THE PARTIES TO 20, 25 KIDS. 
          MAX WAS 20. WE'VE LIMITED 25 KIDS MAX AT THE PARTIES,
A TOTAL OF 40 GUESTS. 
          YEAH, USUALLY IT'S ABOUT 40 PEOPLE. YEAH. THERE'S A QUESTION I HAD DO YOU ALLOW MORE THAN
ONE OF THOSE PARTIES AT A TIME? NO. OKAY. YEAH. WE CAN'T. YEAH. NO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE THE GYM. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE 25 KIDS OUT THERE. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT 50 KIDS. 
          I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND CARS AND EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE
HAPPENING AT ONE TIME. 
          SO BIRTHDAY PARTY. I MEAN, THEY KIND OF KNOW BETTER THAN I DO,
BUT BIRTHDAY PARTIES AREN'T NECESSARILY A BIG MONEYMAKER. 
          I MEAN, WE USUALLY HAVE 1 OR 2 ON THE WEEKENDS,
YOU KNOW. 
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USUALLY A SATURDAY, ONE ON A SATURDAY, ONE ON A SUNDAY. 
          SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE A, A BACK TO BACK ON A SUNDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
BUT TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S 1 TO 2 A WEEKEND SATURDAY, BUT IN NO INSTANCE WOULD YOU BE HAVING TWO AT THE SAME
TIME? NO. OKAY. GYM COULDN'T ACCOMMODATE IT. VERY GOOD. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AROUND? NO. NO. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. I FILLED OUT ONE OF THOSE CARDS,
SO I THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE CARDS AND CALL UP, SO THAT'S. OH, WE STILL ARE. DO WE JUST HAVE. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT POINT. WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS. YEAH. WE KIND OF GOT A LITTLE BIT
DISCOMBOBULATED THERE. 
          SO THANKS ANYWAY. SO I GUESS NOW WE GO TO CARDS,
I GUESS. 
          FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE FOR J2 IS EMILY LOPEZ. CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK? THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          YEAH. STILL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DO THAT TILL AFTER THAT. 
          HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS EMILY LOPEZ. I'M SORRY,
PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THEY CAN RECORD IT. 
          OH OKAY. SPEAK YOUR NAME. THANK YOU. NOW? YEAH. 
          OKAY. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS EMILY LOPEZ. I'M A RESIDENT FOR THE REDONDO BEACH FOR MORE
THAN 20 YEARS, AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I'VE BEEN DRIVING THOSE STREETS FOR A LONG TIME, AND AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IS REALLY BAD. SOMETIMES IT TAKE ME 30 MINUTES TO GET HOME FROM
THE FREEWAY. 
          WHEN I GET OFF THE FREEWAY AND I GET HOME, IT'S REALLY BAD. 
          NOW THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC WITH THESE PLACES THAT THEY COME IN,
IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE. 
          SO THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN RIGHT NOW. I REALLY DON'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S STRESSING ME OUT ALL THE TRAFFIC, AND ,
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I TRY TO GET HOME EARLY, I CAN'T. SO, YOU KNOW, 99 CENT STORE HAVE TRAFFIC,
BUT GO BACK AND FORTH. 
          YOU GO AND BUY SOMETHING AND THEN YOU GET OUT IN TEN MINUTES,
30 MINUTES MAXIMUM, AND THIS PLACE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE CARS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR,
AND THEN THE PARKING LOT IS GOING TO BE FULL. 
          SOMETIMES WHEN I GO TO 99 CENT STORE, THERE'S NO SPACES TO PARK. 
          I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE PARKING LOT ON THE BACK UNTIL YOU GUYS MENTIONED IT RIGHT NOW,
BUT BELIEVE ME, IT'S REALLY BAD. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND TRAFFIC IS AWFUL. 
          SO I PLEASE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW HOW IS THE TRAFFIC IN LOS
ANGELES. 
          SO IMAGINE REDONDO BEACH WITH THAT. TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A COST. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SAY YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS I BELIEVE IS TINO GOMEZ. 
          YES. OH, YOU ALREADY SPOKE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, I HAVE JOHN SNYDER WHO I BELIEVE ALREADY SPOKE. 
          SO, INDEED. DID HE WANT TO SPEAK HIS OWN? BECAUSE WE ONLY ASKED HIM QUESTIONS. 
          UNLESS HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO IT. I MEAN,
YOU ONLY SPEAK ONCE, THOUGH. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? CAN I WAIT? SURE. YEAH. OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS JEFF WHITMAN. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT JUST AS FAR AS THE SECURITY, BUT THAT WASN'T REALLY MY MAIN ISSUE. 
          I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN A STATE YOUR NAME? I'M SORRY. 
          CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? I'M SORRY. JUST FOR THE RECORD,
JEFF WHITMAN. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH SINCE 1978. 
          SO VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT REDONDO BEACH. 
          RIGHT NOW I LIVE AT 414 SIERRA VISTA DRIVE. AS FAR AS SECURITY,
WE DO OWN A BUSINESS HERE IN REDONDO BEACH AND THAT AREA I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH. I HAD A STORAGE THERE. 
          I WAS HIT THREE TIMES, AND THE PROBLEM WITH THAT AREA ISN'T THAT,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOMELESS EVERYWHERE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYWHERE. IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE BORDER OF
ANOTHER CITY AND YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITH A RAILROAD. 
          YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITH A FREEWAY. 
          YOU HAVE A LOT OF AREA TO BE EXPLOITED, THAT'S ALL. 
          SO IT ACTUALLY IS KIND OF A, A HIGH DENSITY TRANSIENT AREA. 
          BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S EXPLOITED EVEN ON YOU CAN SEE IT IF YOU GO UP WASHINGTON BOULEVARD
IN LA. 
          ONE SIDE IS CULVER CITY, ONE SIDE IS LA. THE ENTIRE LA SIDE IS 100% TENSE AS FAR AS THE
EYE CAN SEE. 
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OKAY, SO LAWNDALE IS PROBABLY LESS INCLINED TO ENFORCE THAN POSSIBLY REDONDO BEACH. 
          THAT BEING SAID, RIGHT NOW ON INGLEWOOD, IT'S TWO LIGHT CYCLES TO GET THROUGH THAT
INTERSECTION, AND THIS THE GYMNASTICS CENTER IS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP AT THE
SAME TIME. RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH A STANDALONE ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD,
AERIAL HAS TRAFFIC BACKED UP TO LOMITA BOULEVARD AND PEOPLE GOING OUT AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN AT LEAST 20 TO 40%, MAYBE IT'S JUST A GUESS OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING
IN THEIR CARS FOR THAT HOUR, DOING THEIR WORK OR TEXTING OR WHATEVER. THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE GOING IN AND THEN GOING
IN AND PICKING UP THEIR KIDS. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS LINE OF CARS WAITING TO DROP OFF. 
          AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE ARE COMING TO PICK UP FROM THE LAST SESSION. 
          SO SAVE 30 KIDS AN HOUR TO 50 KIDS AN HOUR. THIS IS A HUGE FACILITY,
SO 50 IS PROBABLY NOT EVEN UNDER. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 50 CARS COME IN. NOBODY CARPOOLS,
50 CARS COME IN, 50 CARS COME OUT. 
          SO YOU HAVE 100 CARS GOING IN AND OUT BASICALLY AT THE SAME TIME,
AND ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THIS IS THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE PRIME TIME FOR GYMNASTICS IS RUSH HOUR. 
          SO ON INGLEWOOD AND MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. 
          SO YOU HAVE THIS LINE OF CARS GOING IN AND CARS GOING OUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE SOLVED IN AN AREA LIKE THIS. 
          THAT'S WHY MOST OF THESE GYMNASTICS CENTERS ARE IN MOTION TO EXTEND OR JUST,
I'M SORRY, MOTION SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, THERE. PLEASE CONTINUE. YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS. 
          JUST BASICALLY ARE IN STANDALONE LOCATIONS. THE AERIAL AND HAWTHORNE IS A STANDALONE. 
          KIDS IS STANDALONE. IT'S IN A PRETTY MUCH AN INDUSTRIAL LOCATION WHERE EVERYBODY'S GONE BY
THE TIME THEY'RE PRIME TIME CLASSES START. 
          FLIGHT SCHOOL IN TORRANCE IS ON VAN NESS. IT'S IN A,
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A STANDALONE IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. 
          RISE GYMNASTICS. THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY KIND OF STANDALONE OR IN THESE,
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LESS TRAFFICKY AREAS. 
          SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE HERE IS CHRIS OLSON,
AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME SO WE CAN HAVE YOU ON RECORD. 
          THANK YOU, CHRIS OLSON. I WOULD I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT TO GO THROUGH. 
          SO IF I WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ENTITLED TO ONE EXTRA MINUTE TO THAT,
WOULD THAT WOULD HELP ME A LOT. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE TOPICS THAT WERE ALREADY BROUGHT UP BY THE PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE
THIS. 
          I WILL SAY THOUGH, I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY AS BEING
TRUE. 
          I'VE BEEN OPERATING A GYMNASTICS CENTER 400FT FROM THAT LOCATION FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS. 
          I KNOW THAT PARKING LOT BETTER THAN ANYONE. THEY'RE ALL CORRECT. 
          ESPECIALLY NOW. THE OTHER PART IS THAT. LET'S SEE. 
          I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE. THE BACK PARKING LOT. THE BACK PARKING LOT,
BASICALLY, IN MY OPINION, IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GLORIFIED GLORIFIED ALLEY THAT COMES IN BOTH WAYS. 
          IT'S A LONG WAY. IT'S MORE THAN ONE TENTH OF A MILE. 
          THE LENGTH OF IT TO GET TO WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS. 
          IT'S NIGHT. IT'S DARK. I DROVE THROUGH THERE THE OTHER NIGHT DARK? I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AREA WHERE THE PEOPLE PARK. I'M TALKING ABOUT ALONG THE
WAY, TOO, AND SO THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE WHEN THAT BUILDING BECAME AVAILABLE. 
          I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO KNOW ABOUT IT. I WENT AND I LOOKED IT OVER AND I DECIDED IT WAS
NOT A GOOD FIT FOR MY CUSTOMERS. 
          I THOUGHT THEY DESERVED BETTER, AND SO IT'S AN OPEN SPACE. 
          THAT MEANS ANYBODY, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND OR NOT,
HAS THE 100% RIGHT TO GO ONTO THAT PROPERTY. 
          IT'S NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT'S OPEN SPACE, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. 
          THE JUI JITSU SCHOOL, ONE OF MY CUSTOMERS TOLD ME THAT LAST LAST WEEKEND. 
          THEY WERE HAVING CLASS IN THE MORNING. A GUY WALKED IN,
OPENED THE DOOR, STARTED YELLING INTO THE SCHOOL. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, HE WASN'T IN HIS RIGHT MIND. THEN HE CLOSED THE DOOR AND WALKED OFF. 
          SO IT DOES HAPPEN OUT THERE, AND THAT MAN HAD THE LEGAL RIGHT TO BE THERE AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT THERE IS ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP. 
          I RECENTLY CAME ACROSS SOME PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE OF
INTEREST TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE CUP APPLICATION ITSELF. I HAVE HERE A COPY OF THE SPREADSHEET THAT WAS
PROVIDED WITH THE STAFF REPORT. 
          YOU ALL GOT A COPY OF THIS? I RAN THE NUMBERS ON HOW MANY CLASSES WOULD BE THERE AND HOW
MANY STUDENTS WOULD BE THERE IF EVERYTHING WAS MAXED OUT 630 STUDENTS PER 
          [00:40:04]
WEEK. OKAY, THAT DOESN'T SOUND TOO BAD, DOES IT? ONLINE, I FOUND SOME INFORMATION ON A WEBSITE CALLED ASKFORFUNDING.COM,
AND THE TITLE WAS AERIAL GYMNASTICS CLUB GYMNASTICS FACILITY EXPANDING TO A SECOND AND THIRD LOCATION. 
          THE NUMBERS HERE THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTING DO NOT MATCH ANYWHERE NEAR THESE NUMBERS. 
          I BROUGHT A COPY FOR THE COMMISSION IF THEY'D LIKE TO READ IT. I MADE IT VERY SHORT AND
SWEET. 
          I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IT. IT'LL TAKE ABOUT A MINUTE. 
          ARE YOU INTERESTED? SURE. YOU CAN RECEIVE A COPY FOR STAFF. 
          MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? AYE. SECOND. MOTION TO EXTEND. 
          MOTION TO EXTEND. AYE. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. GIVE IT TO YOU. YEAH. YOU GIVE IT TO HIM. 
          YEAH, AND ONE FOR STAFF, TOO? YEAH, SURE. 
          THIS HAS NOT BEEN DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE,
SO. 
          ALL RIGHT. WELL, IS THIS RECEIVING FILES? TO INVESTORS REGARDING THE OPERATION OF THE COMPANY. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAT WE'RE. SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO EXTEND THE SPEAKER'S TIME
AND ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK TO THIS, WE CAN BUT IT'S NOT AGENDIZED. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE
MERITS OF AT THIS MEETING. 
          CORRECT. RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. SO I COULD PROBABLY CONNECT THE DOTS. 
          HE'S STILL SPEAKING WITH. OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. 
          HAVE CONVERSATION DURING THE PUBLIC. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO COMMUNICATE LIKE WE DID WITH
THE FIRST GUY. 
          HE WAS THE APPLICANT. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T HAVE WAS NOT THE
APPLICANT. 
          HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SECURITY. WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO HE WAS. 
          YEAH, WE THOUGHT HE WAS THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT. YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION. 
          YOU CAN'T DISCUSS WHAT HE JUST GAVE US. YOU CANNOT ASK. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO ANYWAY. OKAY. I GUESS HOPEFULLY YOU GIVE US SOME MORE CLARIFICATION AS TO
WHERE THAT'S GOING. 
          OKAY. SURE. I'D BE GLAD. I'LL JUST READ A COUPLE SENTENCES OFF OF THIS,
AND IT'LL MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE HAVE SECURED A SECOND LOCATION AT 2701 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD IN
REDONDO BEACH. 
          FORMER 99 CENT STORE. OUR GOAL FOR STUDENT SIGN UPS AT THIS LOCATION IS APPROXIMATELY 1500
TO 2000 STUDENTS. 
          OUR NEW LOCATION IS AT MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND INGLEWOOD AVENUE. 
          THIS IS THE INTERESTING PART HERE. AS STATED,
THE NEW FACILITY WILL BE 24,000FT². 
          WE WILL HAVE A GYMNASTICS PROGRAM OF 1500 TO 2000 REC STUDENTS,
A TEEN PROGRAM OF APPROXIMATELY 100 STUDENTS EACH YEAR, PROGRAM OF APPROXIMATELY 400 TO 500 STUDENTS EACH YEAR. 
          TEAM WITH APPROXIMATELY 120 STUDENTS. A DANCE PROGRAM WITH APPROXIMATELY 200 TO 300
STUDENTS. 
          A NINJA PROGRAM WITH 200 TO 300 STUDENTS. MOTION TO EXTEND. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT WITH ONE FINAL
STATEMENT. 
          I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T GET A SECOND FOR THAT. OH. I'M SORRY,
BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING. FINALLY--
I'M SORRY, WE CANNOT CONTINUE. 
          WE DID NOT GET A MOTION TO EXTEND. SO YOUR TIME IS UP. 
          OH I'M SORRY, I SAW THE SPEAKER TIMER WAS STILL GREEN. THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY PUT UP,
BUT THERE WAS NOT A SECOND BY THE COMMISSION, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH. OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO PRESENT WHO WISH TO
COME UP AND TALK? I GUESS I COULD LET THEM DO THAT NOW. YEAH. COME ON UP,
AND SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN. 
          JOHN SNYDER. THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY, I WANTED YOU GUYS. 
          IS THERE IS THIS A PERIOD OF TIME YOU GUYS WOULD ASK QUESTIONS,
OR IS THIS JUST MY SPEAK? NOW YOU GET TO TALK. 
          SO TONIGHT, BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WE'VE TRIED TO SECURE THIS LOCATION AT AERIAL
FOR AERIAL GYMNASTICS, AND FROM THE BEGINNING, WHAT WE HAD IS A INFLUENCER ONLINE POST WHO WAS A PREVIOUS STUDENT
OF FIT KIDS AND A COACH AT FIT KIDS, POST ON HER SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SHE WAS GOING TO ATTEMPT TO KEEP US FROM
OCCUPYING THAT PARTICULAR SPACE BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T AGREE WITH US BEING THAT CLOSE TO FIT KIDS GYMNASTICS. SHE HAS ABOUT 100,000 FOLLOWERS. 
          SHE LEFT THE LINK ONLINE FOR THEM TO FOLLOW. SHE ALSO LEFT A L INK TO A GOOGLE APPS AND A WRITE UP THAT PEOPLE COULD USE TO PROTEST THE SITE OR OPPOSE THE SITE. 
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DANIELLE GRAY IS THE NAME OF THE GYMNAST. THE PROXIMITY TO FIT KIDS IS THE ISSUE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S REALLY ANY TRUE ISSUE WITH SECURITY OR PARKING OR ANY OTHER
ISSUE. 
          THAT IS LEGITIMATE. I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT FIT KIDS GYMNASTICS IS TWO
PROPERTIES AWAY. 
          IF OUR AREA IS UNSAFE, I WOULD THINK THAT AREA WOULD BE UNSAFE. 
          IF OUR AREA HAS TRANSIENTS, I WOULD THINK THAT AREA HAS TRANSIENTS JUST AS WELL. 
          IT'S SCOTT, RIGHT? JOHN. JOHN, I'M SORRY. I DO. 
          ARE THESE ALL OF YOUR TEACHERS? PARDON? THE BLUE ARE THESE. 
          OH, NO. NO. THAT'S FIT KIDS. OH, OKAY. EVERYBODY HERE'S FIT KIDS;
THERE'S THREE OF US, FOUR OF US, FIVE OF US FROM AERIAL GYMNASTICS. I GOTCHA. SO I THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE THERE IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER THAT HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT,
BUT WE'RE HELD TO BASICALLY WHAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, AND PUT PUT THAT IN FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE OUR CLASS SCHEDULES. 
          WE HAVE EVERYTHING LAID OUT. WE HAVE EVERYTHING THERE TO GO BUT THE KIDS OWNER,
CHRIS FIT, WHO YOU JUST SAW TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO ALSO PUT AN EMAIL BLAST OUT TO HIS OWN CUSTOMERS
TO GET THEM TO COME DOWN TO PROTEST OR OPPOSE THE FOR AERIAL GYMNASTICS TO TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD TO SAY. WELL,
IN RESPONSE TO THIS, YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS. 
          IT SAYS THAT THERE'S A STATEMENT. I'M SORRY WE CAN'T ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT. 
          PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. OKAY. WELL, CAN WE FIND OUT IF THEY WROTE THIS? WE CAN'T CONSIDER THAT IN OUR DELIBERATIONS TONIGHT. 
          THEN WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT IT? HE JUST S UBMITTED IT JUST TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED. 
          OKAY. IF THIS ROLLS OVER TO ANOTHER MEETING,
MAYBE IT COULD BE USED, BUT WE HAVE TO GO ON INFORMATION THAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. DO YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM NUMBER, WHICH IS 600 THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING IN THIS. 
          SO I MEAN, YEAH, STEVE AND I WORKED ON IT TOGETHER. 
          SO, YEAH WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS FROM THOSE CLASSES,
IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING IN IN TORRANCE. 
          SIMILAR CLASS STRUCTURES, SIMILAR STUDENT NUMBERS. 
          PARDON? SIMILAR STUDENT NUMBERS? YEAH. I MEAN,
SAME SIX KIDS PER CLASS, ONE TEACHER. 
          WE DON'T GO ANYTHING OVER THAT SOMETIMES ACTUALLY. 
          EVEN TWO TEACHERS WITH THE SIX KIDS. OR IF THERE'S SOME KIDS DON'T SHOW UP,
THEN WE'LL GROUP GROUP A COUPLE KIDS GROUPS TOGETHER WITH A SINGLE COACH. 
          ADDITIONAL QUESTION. OR DOES SOMEBODY ELSE WANT TO GO ANYONE ELSE OR NOT? I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY THEN COME BACK OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BACK LOT,
AND I THINK EVEN YOU SAID IT'S PRIMARILY YOU WERE THINKING OF USING IT AS AN EMPLOYEE LOT? CERTAINLY, IF YOU DON'T MAKE IT INVITING TO YOUR CLIENTS,
YOUR CUSTOMERS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE USE OF IT. 
          SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IN ADDITION TO THE LIGHTING AND THE CAMERAS,
WOULD YOU BE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MODIFY THAT BACK ENTRANCE TO MAKE IT THE SAME SIZE AS THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND YEAH, I DON'T YEAH. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THE FRONT
ENTRANCE AS FAR AS THE ROOM TO DO IT, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CLEAN UP THE BACK. THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
LEASE THAT WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED WITH THE OWNER TO CLEAN UP THAT BACK AREA, BECAUSE IT WAS SO INDUSTRIAL LOOKING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THERE'S A FENCING THAT'S BACK THERE, AND THEN ON TOP OF THE FENCING IS SOME ALUMINUM
CORRUGATED METAL. 
          WE WANT TO REMOVE ALL THAT. REMOVE THE ALUMINUM I MEAN REMOVE THE FENCING,
PUT UP NEW FENCING ACROSS THAT BACK AREA, AND THERE'S THIS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PRODUCTS,
BUT THERE'S ALMOST LIKE THIS GRASS OR LATTICE LOOKING TYPE STUFF THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT THROUGH FENCES. NOW THAT REALLY MAKES IT BECAUSE MY OTHER CONCERN IS GRAFFITI. 
          LIKE, I DON'T WANT ANY GRAFFITI ON THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING BACK THERE. SO OUR THOUGHT
PROCESS WAS WITH THIS GRASS, IT'LL HELP KEEP THAT THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GRAFFITI IN THE BACK BACK THERE PERHAPS,
BUT I'M JUST THINKING FOR SAFETY. 
          IF YOU'RE REALLY THE ONLY TENANT THERE THAT'S USING THAT BACK LOT,
YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CROSS TRAFFIC FROM EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S IN THE FRONT LOT, RIGHT? YOU GOT LITTLE KIDS THAT CAN WALK WITH MORE SAFETY,
IS WHAT I'M THINKING. 
          SO YEAH, IF WE CAN'T, IF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN'T REQUIRE IT OR THIS BODY CAN'T
REQUIRE IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU MAKE. YEAH. MAKE USE OF THAT BACK ENTRANCE. 
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WE WANT TO CLEAN IT UP, MAKE IT LOOK PRESENTABLE AND SAFE AND EVERYTHING BACK THERE AND
ADD IN ADDITIONAL LIGHTING. 
          OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I DO. ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER GYM TWO DOORS DOWN? NO, THEY ARE THOUGH. OKAY. I THINK WE DELIVER A BETTER PRODUCT. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN. WELL, I MEAN, YOU ASKED ME. 
          SO YOU'RE ASKING ME. I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEM BEING SO CLOSE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS IN THE AREA. 
          WE HAVE THE OLYMPICS COMING. PEOPLE SAY YOUNG FAMILIES CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          YOU CONTINUALLY SEE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. 
          CAN WE MAKE THAT IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD AND DRAW ON IT NEXT TIME WE HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT
PRICING? SO ANYWAY, IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC ISSUES I SEEM TO RECALL AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE
THIS WAS IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION OR IN THE, THE WRITEUP HERE YOU HAVE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE PERIOD BETWEEN
CLASSES THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO LEAVE. 
          YEAH. BEFORE NEW PEOPLE ARRIVE. CORRECT. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AND HONESTLY,
BECAUSE YOU ARE UNDER OATH, HOW HAS THAT BEEN WORKING? DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE CRUNCHES? SO THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO EXPAND INTO A BIGGER AREA WHERE YOU HAVE MORE EXITS AND MORE
ENTRANCES. 
          RIGHT. THERE'S FIVE AT THAT PROPERTY. OUR EXISTING DRIVEWAYS. 
          DRIVEWAYS? YEAH, AND IF YOU GO THROUGH, YOU CAN ALSO EXIT OUT THROUGH THE,
THE GAS STATION, OUR EXISTING LOCATION. WE HAVE A SIMILAR LOAD WITH CLASSES WITH THAT. 
          ACTUALLY PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LESS. WE HAVE 35 PARKING SPACES AND PEOPLE WORK IT OUT. 
          WE'VE HAD BACKUP ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BACKED UP TO ALAMEDA. 
          WE'RE THERE EVERY DAY. PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT. 
          IT'S ONE ENTRANCE IN ONE. ONE EXIT OUT. THERE'S NOT MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET BACK THERE. 
          YOU HAVE ENTRANCES OFF OF MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD,
AND YOU HAVE ENTRANCES OFF OF INGLEWOOD AVENUE. 
          SO I DON'T SEE THE CONCERN FOR THE FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW INTO THE PARKING LOT OR OUT OF THE
PARKING LOT, LESS THAN THE TYPICAL CHICK-FIL-A, FOR SURE. YEAH. 
          SO DO THE MATH FOR ME. HOW MANY? HOW MANY SESSIONS PER DAY? PER OPEN HOURS WOULD YOU HAVE? SO I THINK IT'S IF I CAN GO OFF OF MEMORY,
I THINK IT'S FOUR SESSIONS. SO IT'S SO LET'S SAY IT'S 5:00, RIGHT? YOUR FIRST CLASS STARTS. IT'S FOUR GROUPS OF SIX KIDS. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT 24 KIDS IN THERE, SIMILAR TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY SIMILAR TO LIKE THE BIRTHDAY
PARTY. 
          IT'S KIND OF THE SAME IDEA. SO YOU HAVE BEAM,
YOU HAVE FLOOR, YOU HAVE VAULT AND YOU HAVE BARS. 
          SO EACH GROUP IS SIX BECAUSE AT THAT AGE IT'S DIFFICULT TO WRANGLE SIX KIDS TOGETHER. 
          SO YOU HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR WITH THOSE SIX KIDS. 
          ONE STARTS ON FLOOR, BEAM, VAULT AND BARS, AND THEY JUST ROTATE AROUND,
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR THE 45 MINUTES. 
          THEN THEY GET A STICKER. WE SIGN THEM OUT TO THEIR PARENTS AND THE NEW GROUP COMES IN FOR
THE NEXT. 
          WE HAVE TO SET UP. THEY'VE USED THE EQUIPMENT. 
          THEY MOVED THINGS AROUND. AGE GROUPS VARY, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT THAT GOES WITH
THAT AGE GROUP THAT MAYBE YOU'LL BRING IN AND SET UP TO ALLOW FOR THE NEXT CLASS TO USE. SO WE NEED THAT WINDOW OF TIME,
NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR THE PARENTS BUT FOR OURSELVES AS WELL, TO BE ABLE TO SET UP FOR THE NEXT THE NEXT CLASS. 
          OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON. 
          COMMISSIONER LIGHT. SO THAT I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS TO BE THIS CONTROVERSIAL. 
          NEITHER DID I, BUT NOW I SEE WHY IT'S A COMPETITOR AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN ORGANIZED
OPPOSITION TO YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE A COMPETITOR. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY OUT OF THAT. 
          THERE IS THE CONCERN THAT THEY BRING UP THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED MYSELF LIVING RIGHT THERE, THAT INGLEWOOD STREET AT MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD DOES BACK UP AND AT RUSH HOUR. 
          IT'S A NIGHTMARE. SO IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO HAVING A PERIOD WHERE OR IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE
TO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THAT? OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF ANY WAY OF BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE
GETTING PEOPLE THERE ON TIME DURING THAT HOURS? MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE THE BEST TIME TO HAVE THAT 4 TO 6:00 CLASSES THERE. 
          HAS THAT SOMETHING YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE SPEAKING OF A
PRODUCT, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT TOUGHER TO SELL THAT PRODUCT THAT. 
          SO I DO SEE THAT AS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM. OTHERWISE I DON'T SEE THE NUMBERS OF VEHICLES
THERE. 
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THE PARKING SPOTS. YES, IT'S A CROWDED PARKING LOT,
BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS FIND A PARKING SPOT THERE. 
          EVEN WITH THE 99 CENT STORE AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY,
THE ONLY LEGITIMATE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS THAT RUSH HOUR ON INGLEWOOD AND THAT ENTRANCE, AND IT'S NOT SO BAD IN MANHATTAN BEACH. SO MAYBE THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE AND THAT YOU CAN
ENCOURAGE, BUT I DO THINK IF YOU DO GET THIS THING GOING,
THAT YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE A PLAN DURING THAT HOUR, THOSE TWO RUSH HOURS, TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO YOUR FACILITY. 
          YEAH, WE'RE HOPING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY TOO, IN THAT AREA BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE CLASSES,
CUT DOWN ON THE TRAFFIC. 
          COMMISSIONER BOSWELL, ANOTHER QUESTION? SO TO PIGGYBACK ONTO THAT DO YOU I IMAGINE THAT
YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A FACILITY OF A CERTAIN SIZE THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR,
YOU KNOW, REASONABLE PRICE, RIGHT? THIS IS PERHAPS IT DID YOU DO ANY FURTHER RESEARCH PRIOR TO ASKING MY QUESTION,
ANY FURTHER RESEARCH AS TO WHERE YOUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO COME FROM GEOGRAPHICALLY. YEAH. SO WE CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR GYM IN
TORRANCE, WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF STUDENTS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO GET IN THE POPULARITY OF THE SCHOOL DOWN
THERE. 
          WE'RE HOPING THIS HELPS TO ALLEVIATE THAT AS WELL. 
          AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. SO WE HAVE CLIENTELE COMING FROM LAWNDALE,
HAWTHORNE, EL SEGUNDO, MANHATTAN BEACH, REDONDO BEACH, MOST OF OUR AND THAT TORRANCE AREA A LOT OF THE POPULATION
IS FROM PV. 
          THEY COME DOWN OFF THE HILL AND A LOT OF THEM ATTEND THOSE CLASSES. SO WE WERE HOPING THAT
WOULD OPEN UP FOR THEM, FOR THAT COMMUNITY, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE REDONDO BEACH COMMUNITY. 
          MANHATTAN BEACH, THE BEACH CITY COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT THE DIFFICULTY IN GYMNASTICS IS FINDING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. 
          RIGHT. YOU NEED HIGH SPACES. NO BEAMS, NO COLUMNS CAN BE COMING DOWN. 
          YOU NEED HIGH CEILING, RIGHT? YOU NEED, BECAUSE OF THE VAST AMOUNT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT
GOES WITH IT, YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AREA. WE'VE IT'S DIFFICULT FINDING A PLACE. 
          WE'VE HAD THREE OTHER PLACES. EL SEGUNDO, WE WERE BEAT OUT BY A PICKLEBALL COMPANY THAT
BEAT US OUT ON THAT ONE. 
          WE HAD A PLACE ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD RIGHT BY 190. 
          IT USED TO BE THE BOOT BARN. THAT PLACE FELL THROUGH BECAUSE I WANTED CONDITIONS IN IT
THAT THEY COULDN'T SELL THE PROPERTY. 
          THEY DIDN'T. THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF SELLING IT,
BUT IT WAS OWNED BY A 90 YEAR OLD LADY, AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT FELL THROUGH, THEY ACTUALLY DID SELL THE BUILDING,
AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER LOCATION OVER BY THE BY CITY HALL, AND TORRENCE USED TO BE THE S-MART. 
          THERE'S A ASIAN MARKET THAT WAS DOWN THERE, AND WE WERE THE,
THE SUBLESSEES TO GROCERY OUTLET AND GROCERY OUTLET HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE OWNERS FOR WELL OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. WE FINALLY GAVE UP ON THAT AREA WHEN THIS BECAME
AVAILABLE, AND IT PROVIDES ENOUGH DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS FOR US AS FAR AS THE SURROUNDING
AREA FOR TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE PICKED IT. SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES WERE IN INDUSTRIAL PARK
AREAS. 
          THEY JUST BREAK IN AND SAY ALL THAT'S THE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUGGLE THAT BUSINESSES
HAVE IN ESTABLISHING A LOCATION. 
          IT'S NEVER FUN, BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, IS IN YOUR LOCATION,
JUST ABOUT ANYBODY COMING FROM MANHATTAN BEACH IS GOING TO BE COMING DOWN MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD, AND THIS TRAFFIC ON INGLEWOOD IS NOT GOING TO BE AN
ISSUE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING AGAINST TRAFFIC. MOST THE TRAFFIC IS HEADING WEST IF THEY'RE ON
MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND AS FAR AS INGLEWOOD AT THAT TIME OF DAY, IT'S GETTING OFF THE FREEWAY AND GOING SOUTH,
BECAUSE ANYBODY GOING NORTH ISN'T GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR YOU. 
          IT'S A HORRIBLE F-RATED INTERSECTION, AND I HAVE SWORN AT IT MANY A TIMES WHEN I'VE BEEN
STUCK THERE AND WHEN THE TRAIN USED TO GO BY EVERY HOUR, THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE BACKED UP PAST ARTESIA. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S TWO AND A HALF MILES. SO TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP IS SOMETHING THAT THE
SOUTH BAY HAS A HISTORY OF ADDING ANOTHER 20, 30 CARS PROBABLY WON'T EVEN BE NOTICEABLE. 
          IT'LL STILL BE AWFUL, BUT NOT SO MUCH MORE THAN YOU'LL. 
          YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING BY CURSING THE GYMNASTICS SCHOOL FOR DOING THIS,
AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF YOUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING SOUTH ON INGLEWOOD, WHICH IS THE REAL PROBLEM TRAFFIC WISE. 
          RIGHT, AND IT'S ONLY UNTIL YOU GET TO THAT SHORT PERIOD BETWEEN THE FREEWAY AND MANHATTAN
BEACH BOULEVARD. 
          IT'S ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, 300 YARD STRETCH. HOW BAD COULD THAT BE? 
          [01:00:04]
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY LIGHTS YOU HAVE TO SIT THROUGH,
BECAUSE THEY ARE LONG LIGHTS. ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO THE SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH OF YOU AND COMING NORTH ON INGLEWOOD IS ALSO GOING AGAINST TRAFFIC AND NOT CAUSING AN ISSUE AT THAT
TIME OF DAY. 
          SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF MY FAMILIARITY FOR A LONG TIME LIVING OFF OF INGLEWOOD AND HAVING
TO DRIVE THAT STREET FOR 30 YEARS. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS ALONG INGLEWOOD IS GOING TO CAUSE IS GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC, BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT DIRECTION YOU'RE FROM,
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF YOUR STUDENTS AREN'T GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE TRAFFIC DIRECTION. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. RIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, OR ARE WE A QUESTION? PLEASE GO AHEAD. HOW BIG? HOW MUCH BIGGER IS THIS FACILITY THAN YOUR ONE IN TORRANCE? IT'S ABOUT THREE TIMES AS BIG. OKAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF CRAMMED INTO THAT LITTLE GYM. 
          LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE, LIKE, VAULT RUNWAY AREA WHERE THEY CAN RUN. 
          THAT WILL PROVIDE IT FOR US. WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT. OUR FLOOR ISN'T A TRUE SIZED FLOOR,
LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE, AND IT'S NOT. WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST IT TO GET IT TO FIT IN. 
          THAT WAS OUR THAT WAS OUR FIRST PLACE. WE WERE JUST HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEBODY ACTUALLY EVEN
LEASE IT TO US. 
          WE WERE DOING GYMNASTICS OUTSIDE AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THIS THIS LOCATION LETS US SPREAD OUT AND NOT BE SO PACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS ONLINE WISH TO COMMENT OR
THERE ARE NO ATTENDEES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD. CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. SHALL WE START THE DISCUSSION? SORRY, STAFF HAS ONE CLARIFICATION WE'D LIKE TO MAKE. 
          I'M SORRY. STAFF HAS A MINOR CLARIFICATION WE'D LIKE TO MAKE TO ADD TO PROVIDE SOME EXTRA
CLARITY ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. 
          CONDITION NUMBER FIVE OF THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION DOES DIRECT PARENTS,
EMPLOYEES, AND STUDENTS TO UTILIZE THE REAR PARKING NORTH OF THE TENANT SPACE AND THE PICKUP LOADING ZONE AT THE REAR? ADDITIONALLY, OUR BUILDING AND SAFETY DIVISION REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL,
AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRING UPDATES TO THAT REAR LOADING DOCK, INCLUDING UPDATES TO THE RAMP TO MAKE IT ADA ACCESSIBLE. 
          THE SIDING CHANGES THE OVERALL, MAKING IT SO THAT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE IN USE
OCCUPANCY. 
          THE BUILDING CODE STANDARDS ARE HIGHER FOR THE REAR LOADING DOCK,
SO THEY WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TENANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT TO THAT DOCK SO THAT IT CAN BE MORE HOSPITABLE TO STUDENTS AND PARENTS,
AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THEY OPEN. 
          CORRECT. IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT PERMIT. 
          SO THE PERMIT WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATES THAT,
AND THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED A CONDITION RIGHT. FOR THE REAR LOADING DOCK,
Y ES. 
          THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. QUESTION NUMBER FIVE. 
          OKAY I MISSED IT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE,
ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS POINT? YEAH, I THINK I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IN THERE,
BUT WITH THE CONCERN FOR IT NOT BEING THE SAFEST CORNER OR WHATEVER, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN AN AREA,
THE MORE SAFE IT BECOMES, AND THE LIVELIER YOU MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MORE SAFE IT BECOMES. 
          SO I THINK THAT ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, IF WE KEEP EVERYBODY OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT,
THAT'S MAYBE GOING TO BE A SCARY PLACE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE FAMILIES COMING AND GOING,
I THINK THAT'S REALLY A POSITIVE SIGN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS ARE THIS IF THIS MAN DECIDES THAT THIS BUSINESS IS A GOOD THING FOR
THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          I KIND OF AGREE WITH HIM. COMMISSIONER CONROY. 
          YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ADD THIS USE MEETS THE CURRENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS,
PER THE DEPARTMENT'S REPORT, AND THIS IS THE LARGEST SPACE IN THAT CENTER. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT TENANT OCCUPIES IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL USE OF THE PARKING LOT. 
          SO ADDITIONALLY THE GYMS' CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SAME TRAFFIC AND
THAT SAME CONGESTION. 
          SO AND I ALSO I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING TENANTS FROM THAT COMMERCIAL CENTER HERE
TO SPEAK AGAINST 
          [01:05:03]
THIS GYM GOING IN. SO BASED ON ALL THAT, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE USE OF THIS SPACE AS IT
PROMOTES ATHLETICS, POSITIVE SELF-ESTEEM AND A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO, YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BOSWELL FOR STAFF. WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CITY OR OR SOMEONE SPEAK WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN REGARDS TO ADDING PRIVATE SECURITY,
BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE ARE OCCASIONAL ISSUES AND YOU SEE PRIVATE SECURITY AT MUCH SMALLER PLACES. IS THERE SOMETHING THE CITY CAN DO IN THAT RESPECT? YES, WE CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED, AND IT'S POSSIBLE THERE MAY BE SOME FORM OF SECURITY THERE NOW SO WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT
IT, BUT THEN LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS AND SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO ENHANCE THE
SECURITY THERE. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ALREADY SOME KIND OF PRIVATE SECURITY PATROL IN THERE OR NOT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, POINTING OUT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG CHANGE IN USE
DEMOGRAPHICS WITH 100 LITTLE GIRLS IN THAT LOT. PERHAPS IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE URGENT ON THE PART OF THE OWNER TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SECURE PLACE FOR THEIR OWN LIABILITY. 
          WE WILL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THE OWNER AFTER HEARING THIS. 
          DOES PART OF THE I'M SORRY DOES PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE CITY IN ADDITION,
FOR THE TIS INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND SECURITY IN THAT BACK LOT? IT'S NOT IN THE CONDITIONS,
BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD ADD THAT. 
          THE APPLICANT INDICATED THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING THAT,
BUT WE COULD ALSO ADD IT TO THE CONDITIONS TO ENSURE IT HAPPENS, AND THAT WOULD BE DEMONSTRATED ON THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS,
THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT THEY SUBMIT TO THE CITY. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. VERY GOOD. THAT WOULD BE GOOD,
AND I'LL GO. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IF THAT INTERSECTION IS SO BAD,
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO SEE IF THE LIGHTS ARE OFF,
HAS IT BEEN DONE? THEY JUST REDID THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION AND INCOMPETENTLY OF COURSE,
BUT IT'S DONE, BUT IT'S BEEN TIMING'S BEEN CHECKED AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S SLIGHTLY BETTER SINCE THEY IMPROVED. THEY ADDED TWO GOING SOUTH. 
          THERE ARE NOW TWO LANES TO TURN RIGHT, WHICH IS TELLING YOU WHERE THE COMMUTER TRAFFIC IS
GOING, GOING TOWARDS THE OCEAN, AND THEY MADE A RIGHT TURN ON ON MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD OR
INGLEWOOD, MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. NOW GOING WEST. OKAY. 
          WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO IS PUT A SENSOR IN THE LEFT TURN LANE. 
          SO WHEN THE LIGHTS CHANGE AND GOING SOUTH NOW GETS TO GETS A GREEN LIGHT AGAIN,
FIRST IT HAS TO WAIT FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE LIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NO CARS SITTING THERE,
AND THOSE TURN LANE LIKE I HAVE HAD TO SEE THAT LEFT TURN LANE. 
          YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND THE LEFT TURN LANE WHEN THERE'S NO OTHER CARS. 
          IT SEEMS WAY LONGER, I'M SURE, BUT WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN F GRADED
INTERSECTION. 
          IT'S SO BAD THEY'VE ADDED MORE LANES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE TURNS TO THE RIGHT AND COMPLETELY
FORGOT ABOUT THE LEFT, AND HAS MADE IT EVEN, EVEN A WORSE INTERSECTION FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO STRAIGHT. 
          SO IT'S BEEN DONE. SO, IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY NOW. 
          HEADS WILL ROLL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WEREN'T
DEALT WITH, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT RELEVANT TO THE GYMNASTICS. 
          ONE COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, TO JUST HAVING HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR
ABOUT 20 YEARS, I WORKED IN THE ARMED GUARD BUSINESS. I WORKED FOR BRINKS AND HAD SECURITY PERSONNEL. 
          HAVING SECURITY GUARDS ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO MAKE SOMETHING SAFER. I CAN TELL YOU
FIRSTHAND THAT LIGHTING ACCESS WITH LOTS MORE PEOPLE AROUND EYEBALLS TEND TO DETER A LOT OF CRIME. I DON'T KNOW, NECESSARILY PUTTING A REQUIREMENT ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE A
SECURITY GUARD WALKING AROUND AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THESE GUYS GET PAID. 
          IT'S BARELY ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE. THEIR JOB IS TO OBSERVE AND REPORT. 
          THEY DON'T STOP CRIME. THEY JUST DOCUMENT IT. 
          SO JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT JUST HAVING A SECURITY PERSON WALKING AROUND ISN'T NECESSARILY
GOING TO STOP CRIME. 
          SO SHOULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION THAT THE RESOLUTION HAVE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING,
INCLUDING INCLUDE A CONDITION, A CONDITION THAT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS PART OF LIGHTING AND CAMERAS,
LIGHTING AND CAMERA SURVEILLANCE. 
          YEAH, THE COMMISSION COULD ADD THAT TO THE MOTION TO ADD A CONDITION THAT THERE BE
ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AND CAMERAS TO ENHANCE SECURITY AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. 
          [01:10:06]
OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN BY THE STAFF WITH
THE CONDITION REGARDING THE LIGHTING AND CAMERAS AND SECURITY CAMERAS IN THE BACK LOT,
AND ADDITIONAL SECURITY LIGHTING, ADDITIONAL SECURITY CAMERAS AND LIGHTING IN THE BACK LOT. DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I WOULD SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I THINK WE NEED A ROLL. 
          WE NEED A ROLL CALL. SORRY. COULD WE GET ANY OTHER CLOSE DISCUSSION? CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT? YES. COMMISSIONERS LIGHTS. 
          AYE. I DIDN'T CATCH EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING. 
          ARE WE CLOSING PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR CLOSING THE ON THE MOTION? WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION. SHE MADE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION. OH T HE RESOLUTION? OKAY, YES . OH, WAIT, JUST CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONERS LIGHT. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. YES. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. YES. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. YES.
COMMISSIONER CONROY. AYE. COMMISSIONERS HAZELTINE. YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. YES. 
          THE MOTION RESOLUTION CARRIES. WELCOME TO REDONDO BEACH. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND YOU THOUGHT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE VERY LONG. 
          I KNOW MY FAULT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE CUSTOMER. 
          WE'RE SO BUSINESS UNFRIENDLY. ONCE AGAIN, HOW DID THEY POSSIBLY GET BY US? PROVING AGAIN. ONCE AGAIN. SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO OUR AGENDA. 
          SO WE'RE BACK TO J1, AND THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN EXEMPTION
DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE GENERAL FOOD SNACK SALES USE, INCLUSIVE OF THE SALE OF BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR FOR OFF SITE CONSUMPTION WITHIN AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2706 ARTESIA BOULEVARD IN THE COMMERCIAL C-2 ZONE,
AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. LET'S CONTINUE, AND I NEED TO DO. SHOULD I DO THE OATH NOW FOR. 
          I GUESS WE COULD TAKE THOSE. YEAH, THE APPLICANT,
ARE YOU HERE? CAN YOU PLEASE STAND? AND IF YOU PLAN TO GIVE A TESTIMONY EITHER SWEAR. 
          YOU NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. 
          GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS STEVEN GIANG. I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM J2. 
          A CONSIDERATION FOR THE TO ALLOW THE GENERAL FOOD SNACK SALES USE AND INCLUSIVE OF THE
SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION WITHIN AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING AT 2706
ARTESIA BOULEVARD. 
          J1 ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY J1. THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INGLEWOOD
AVENUE AND SOUTH OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD. IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL C-2 PROPERTY. 
          TO THE NORTH, WEST AND EAST ARE ALL ZONES C-2. 
          THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED LOW DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL,
AND THE CITY OF LAWNDALE SITS ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER OF THE PROPOSED USE. 
          THE LOT SIZE IS 6500FT². THERE IS AN EXISTING 3250FT²,
TWO STORY, MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING, OF WHICH THE FIRST FLOOR IS 1425FT², WHICH IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL WILL BE USING,
AND THE SECOND FLOOR IS GOING TO REMAIN EXISTING OFFICES OF 1825FT². IN TERMS OF ACCESS, THERE ARE TWO DRIVEWAYS. 
          THERE'S A TWO WAY DRIVEWAY OFF OF INGLEWOOD AND ANOTHER TWO WAY DRIVEWAY OFF OF ARTESIA
BOULEVARD. 
          HERE'S A CLOSE UP LOOK OF THE LOT. THE DRIVEWAY FOR ARTESIA IS HERE,
AND THE DRIVEWAY FOR INGLEWOOD IS HERE. 
          HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS THAT WERE TAKEN ON WEDNESDAY AROUND NOON OF THE SITE. 
          THE TOP LEFT IS GOING TO BE THE WEST ELEVATION. 
          SO STANDING ON INGLEWOOD AVENUE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING,
THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS ARTESIA BOULEVARD. STANDING ON THAT REAR PARKING LOT. 
          THE BOTTOM LEFT PHOTO IS STANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE. 
          I THINK IT'S A VETERINARY HOSPITAL, LOOKING EAST TOWARDS INGLEWOOD AVENUE,
AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS STANDING UP AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD. 
          [01:15:01]
THE PROPOSED THIS PROPOSED SUITE WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY A FLOWER SHOP. 
          INTERIOR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSING TO ADD SHELVING,
COUNTERS AND WALK IN REFRIGERATORS. 
          THE PROPOSED BUSINESS OPERATION WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY,
8 A.M. 
          TO 11 P.M., WITH A MAXIMUM OF FOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SALES WILL INCLUDE BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, SOFT DRINKS,
SNACKS AND OTHER CONVENIENCE ITEMS. THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 12 PARKING SPACES FOR BOTH THE PREVIOUS
USES, WHICH WAS THE FLOWER SHOP AND OFFICES, AND THE PROPOSED USE,
WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND OFFICES. 
          THE STORE ITSELF REQUIRES A TOTAL OF SIX PARKING SPACES,
WHILE THE OFFICE USES ABOVE ALSO REQUIRE A TOTAL OF SIX SPACES. 
          BASED ON THE PROPOSED BUSINESS OPERATION, PARTICULARLY THE HOURS OF OPERATION,
THE ALLOCATED PARKING SPACES FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT. 
          IN FURTHERANCE OF CONFIRMING THAT THE PARKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS COMMERCIAL CENTER COULD
ACCOMMODATE ALL EXISTING PROPOSED USE. 
          STAFF REVIEWED THE GENERAL HOURS OF OPERATION FROM EXISTING TENANTS AS COMPARED TO THE
PROPOSED HOURS FOR THE SUBJECT BUSINESS, AND FOUND THAT THERE WOULD BE VERY LIMITED OVERLAP WITH EXISTING ONSITE USES. 
          THIS IS CAN ALSO BE EVIDENT WITH THE SITE VISIT THAT STAFF TOOK ON WEDNESDAY AT NOON. 
          THERE WAS ONLY ONE OTHER CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          THE OTHER CAR WAS JUST THE CAR THE STAFF USED TO ARRIVE. 
          CONVENIENCE STORES OF THIS NATURE TYPICALLY HAVE PEAK TIMES OF LATE EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS, WHICH WILL NOT CONFLICT WITH THE OFFICE USES,
WHICH HAVE A MORE TYPICAL 8 TO 5 P.M. 
          BUSINESS TIME. THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE LOT ON ON WEDNESDAY. 
          THE ONE OF THE CARS IS THE STAFF CAR AND ONE WAS FOR THE OFFICE USE. 
          THIS IS THE REAR LOT. STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED USE MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          THE PROPERTY IS ADEQUATE IN SIZE AND SHAPE. THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS PROVIDE ADEQUATE
ACCESS. 
          THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING ON SITE. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO DETAIL THE
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AND IF ANY GENERAL NUISANCES WERE TO OCCUR. 
          THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO REVOKE OR IMPOSE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO THE CUP. 
          BASED ON THE FINDINGS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING, TAKE TESTIMONY, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION REGARDING THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR GENERAL FOOD SNACK SALES USE, INCLUSIVE OF THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR OFF SITE CONSUMPTION WITHIN AN EXISTING
MULTI-TENANT BUILDING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 706 ARTESIA BOULEVARD IN THE COMMERCIAL C-2 ZONE. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          GREAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF US HERE? YEAH. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE PARKING. 
          I THOUGHT IN THE READINGS THAT IT WAS SHORT A SPOT. 
          YES. SO THE SITE ITSELF REQUIRES 12 BASED ON THE PREVIOUS USES AND THE PROPOSED USES AND
THE ZONING CODE. 
          THERE'S 11 SPOTS ON THE SITE. HOWEVER, THE PREVIOUS USE WAS CONSIDERED LEGAL,
NONCONFORMING, AND SINCE THE FLOWER SHOP AND THE NEW CONVENIENCE STORE REQUIRE THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF
PARKING, THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS ABLE TO CONTINUE ITS LEGAL NONCONFORMING PARKING REQUIREMENT
SINCE THE USES AREN'T INCREASING IN PARKING. 
          SO IT WAS SHORT ONE SPOT BEFORE AND IT'S STILL SHORT ONE SPOT. 
          CORRECT, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S RATIONALE FOR THAT IS THAT THIS STORE IS GOING TO
GET ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AS THE FLOWER STORE. THE IT'S MORE SO THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE FLOWER SHOP AND THE
CONVENIENCE STORE ARE THE SAME. 
          STAFF FELT LIKE THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS COULD BE CONTINUED. 
          IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT ONE OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURE ENCLOSURE SPOTS COULD BE A 12TH
SPOT. 
          IT SAYS NO PARKING ON THURSDAYS ONLY, BUT YOU CAN PARK THERE THE OTHER TIMES OF THE WEEK,
SO THAT'S TECHNICALLY A 12TH SPOT IF PEOPLE NEEDED TO USE IT, EXCEPT ON THURSDAYS. SO THERE'S 13 SPOTS. 12,
INCLUDING THE TRASH ENCLOSURE SPOT THAT'S CLOSED ON THURSDAYS TO PARKING, BUT OTHERWISE PEOPLE MAKES IT 11. CORRECT. STAFF JUST DIDN'T COUNT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE
BECAUSE ON THURSDAYS, TRASH PICKUP REMOVES THE SPOT. OKAY. WASN'T THERE SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT A HANDICAPPED
SPOT THAT WOUND UP TAKING THE EXTRA AN EXTRA SPACE? I THOUGHT THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THE NUMBER DOWN. 
          NO, THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE 11. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE TEN REGULAR SPOTS AND ONE
HANDICAPPED 
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SPOT AND ONE THAT IS AVAILABLE IF IT'S NOT TRASH DAY. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT. 
          THAT ONE THAT'S AVAILABLE EXCEPT ON TRASH DAY IS GOING TO GET HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE
USED A LOT MORE THAN THAT HANDICAP SPOT IS EVER GOING TO BE USED. 
          CORRECT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT FITS. I MEAN,
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO IN AND BUY SOMETHING AND LEAVE. 
          HOW BAD COULD IT BE? CORRECT, BUT THERE'S NO STREET PARKING AROUND THERE SO THAT DOESN'T
HELP. 
          OH IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ON ARTESIA. FURTHER DOWN. 
          INGLEWOOD FURTHER DOWN. OH THERE IS ON INGLEWOOD ISN'T THERE. 
          YEAH ACTUALLY THERE IS BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE SOUTH. 
          YEAH. THAT'S CLOSER. IT'S WELL YEAH IT'S CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE
LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLACE. 
          SO THEY HAVE AT LEAST TWO SPOTS, RIGHT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE SIDE OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          ON ARTESIA. I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHY WE'RE GETTING SO MANY LIQUOR STORES. 
          ONE WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. WE DID JUST TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          OR LAST MONTH. IS THERE A REASON? IS THAT THE NEED AT THE CITY FOR THAT? OBVIOUSLY YOU TAKE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME IN,
BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THAT. 
          IT JUST SEEMS AN INTERESTING PHENOMENON. YEAH,
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO ONE OF THE FINDINGS DOES REQUIRE THAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE CONSISTENT WITH
THE INTENT OF THE AACAP . 
          AS YOU READ THROUGH THE AACAP , WHICH IS THE ARTESIA AND AVIATION AREA CORRIDOR PLAN,
IT REALLY ADDRESSES PLACEMAKING DESIGN. THOSE FEATURES OF ARTESIA. 
          IT DOESN'T REALLY GET TOO DEEP INTO USE, OR AT LEAST PREFERRED BUSINESS USES,
AT LEAST WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO A FINDING IN TERMS OF WHAT'S ALLOWED AND NOT AND DISALLOWED. 
          SO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR CONSISTENCY. HOWEVER,
GOING THROUGH THE AACAP , IT'S MOSTLY DESIGN ORIENTED. 
          SO I WOULD SAY IF WE HAD A PROJECT WHERE THEY WERE PROPOSING A NEW BUILDING OR A REMODEL
OR SOME PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE SITE, I THINK THE AACAP IS WELL SUITED TO ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENCY AND
COMPLIANCE. 
          NOT SO MUCH USE. YES. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF? SO, STAFF ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE DENSITY OF ALCOHOL SERVING BUSINESSES? BECAUSE JUST A FEW MEETINGS AGO, WE GAVE BASICALLY THE GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET
ACROSS INGLEWOOD. 
          BASICALLY, WE GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS EXACT SAME THING THERE. 
          WELL, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. IT'S BEER AND WINE . WITHIN BEER AND WINE. 
          THAT WAS THE BEER AND WINE. OH, THIS WILL HAVE MORE. 
          THIS IS FULL. THIS IS LIQUOR. THIS IS A FULL LIQUOR STORE. 
          RIGHT. THEN THEY COULD BE COMPLIMENTARY, BUT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES BY ALCOHOL IN THE CITY,
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VOICING OPINIONS THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANYMORE. 
          WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF THEM. IS THERE ANY CONCERN ON THE PART OF THE CITY THAT I GUESS WE
WOULDN'T BE AT THIS POINT IF THERE WAS, BUT WHY ISN'T THERE? I WOULD SAY YES. THERE IS CONCERN,
IN FACT, AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE A REFERRAL THAT STAFF EVALUATE ALCOHOL SERVING BUSINESSES, LIQUOR STORES, AND BECAUSE RECENTLY WE TOOK SOME ACTIONS ON SMOKE SHOPS,
WHICH IS ACTUALLY COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SOON, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTED THAT WE EVALUATE LIQUOR BUSINESSES AS WELL. 
          I WOULD SAY THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERN ABOUT WHAT USES GO INTO THE VARIOUS SPACES THROUGHOUT
THE CITY, AND THERE IS A KIND OF A PLAN AND A VISION FOR ARTESIA. 
          IT'S LAID OUT IN THE AACAP . I WOULD SAY WITH THIS APPLICATION WE ARE REALLY LIMITED
STRICTLY TO FINDINGS. 
          THAT'S LIKE THE BASIS OF THE DECISION AND WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE FINDINGS ARE LAID
OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          IF DOWN THE ROAD THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THIS,
THEY WANT TO LOOK AT LAND USES MORE BROADLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          IF WE DECIDE TO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT SEEK A CERTAIN BUSINESS TYPE ON
ARTESIA, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER PURSUING. 
          RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S OUR EVALUATION WAS REALLY LIMITED JUST TO THE FINDINGS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY CODIFIED. 
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SO THAT'S A LONG WAY OF ANSWERING IT. I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU,
DIRECTOR WIENER. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THE LOCATION ACROSS THE STREET,
YOU KNOW, THEY OBVIOUSLY LIMITED THE HOURS OF OPERATION. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I KNOW THIS HAS FROM 8 A.M. 
          TO 11 P.M., I BELIEVE. I KNOW IN SOME LIQUOR STORES I WAS,
I MENTIONED THAT WAS UP IN SACRAMENTO THE OTHER DAY WHERE THEY LIMITED THE TYPE OF ALCOHOL, I GUESS, AND , YOU KNOW, THE CONTAINERS,
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIQUOR, THE GAS STATION, THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO SELL SIX PACKS, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS I SPOKE TO WERE THEY WERE AFRAID OF AN INDIVIDUAL MAYBE PURCHASING A SINGLE BOTTLE OF SOMETHING AND GETTING A PAPER BAG AND
WALKING AROUND THE STREET. 
          IS THERE ANY LIMITATION THAT WE COULD PUT ON THE SALES TO HAVE IT? SO IT'S LIKE A LARGER, LIKE A SIX PACK AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE CANS. 
          SO IT IS WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW TO REGULATE THE OPERATIONS OF THE
BUSINESS BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          SO IF THERE'S CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS OR ALLOWANCES THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO IMPOSE ON
THIS BUSINESS, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WITH THE INTENT OF TRYING TO
ACHIEVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF BUSINESS OR CERTAIN QUALITY OF BUSINESS ALONG ARTESIA CORRIDOR. SO I WOULD SAY, YES,
THAT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. 
          SO LONG AS IT'S WITHIN REASON AND WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STILL OPERATE AS A BUSINESS. 
          YEAH. YEAH. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. YEAH. SO ALONG THAT SAME LINE WE COULD FOR INSTANCE,
IF WE HAD IN MIND THAT YOU KNOW, BOTTLES OF THUNDERBIRD SHOULDN'T BE COMING OUT OF THE PLACE. 
          WE ACTUALLY LIMIT THAT ONLY WINDS OVER, LET'S SAY,
AT RANDOM, YOU KNOW, $50 A BOTTLE AND UP CAN BE SOLD, AND NO 40 OUNCE BEERS, YEARS, LET'S SAY BOTTLES OF BEER. 
          SO THAT TYPE OF THING IS ALLOWED. IT WOULD BE,
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DRAFT CONDITIONS THAT GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF NUANCE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT'S ENFORCEABLE. 
          ALSO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD MONITOR FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          OR IF WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, RESPOND TO AND BE ABLE TO EASILY MEASURE AND IDENTIFY. 
          I'VE SEEN CONDITIONS GET PRETTY ABSTRACT IN TERMS OF LIKE PERCENTAGE OF AREAS OF A CERTAIN
MERCHANDISE. 
          IT IT CAN BECOME VERY HARD, VERY UNREALISTIC TO ENFORCE,
I WOULD JUST SAY BE MINDFUL OF THE ENFORCEABILITY OF IT. 
          RIGHT. SO IF COMPLAINTS START ROLLING IN THAT THERE'S,
YOU KNOW, PUBLIC CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL IN THAT AREA, THEN THAT MIGHT PROMPT AN INVESTIGATION THAT SOMEONE WOULD GO TO THE STORE AND SAY,
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT HERE IS THAT YOU YOU CAN'T SELL,
YOU KNOW, 40 OUNCE MALT LIQUORS AND CHEAP WINE BASICALLY. 
          YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT, AND WE DO HAVE A CONDITION THAT SPEAKS TO I THINK ON PREMISE
DRINKING OF ALCOHOL WHICH IS PROBABLY FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO ENFORCE, BUT I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S OTHER OPERATIONAL ISSUES WITH THE
BUSINESS, IF WE ARE RECEIVING AN ABUNDANCE OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
THEY USE WITH THE USE PERMIT, STAFF CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
AND WE CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUES ARE COMING UP. 
          CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? SURE. GO AHEAD. 
          IT APPEARS THAT THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST AT PRESENT AT THE GROUND LEVEL DOESN'T REALLY HAVE
AN ABUNDANCE OF WINDOWS FACING THAT, THAT PARKING LOT. 
          WHERE? YEAH, IN THE BACK, AND IF I LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THIS AND MAYBE I'M WRONG,
BUT ISN'T IT LIKE REFRIGERATORS ALL THE WAY AROUND? SO ARE THEY DOES IT APPEAR TO YOU THAT THEY'RE WITH REGARDS TO PEOPLE DRINKING IN THE PARKING LOT OR BEHIND THE BUILDING, THAT THEY INDEED HAVE THE ABILITY TO OBSERVE
AND ENFORCE YOU KNOW, NO DRINKING ON, ON PREMISE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH VISIBILITY BACK THERE OR DOES
IT MAKE SENSE IF THEY DON'T FOR US TO REQUIRE SECURITY CAMERAS MONITORING THAT AREA OR SOMETHING? I THINK THAT'S AN OPTION AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THE WINDOWS AND WHAT THEY
HAD IN MIND IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MONITOR THE PARKING AND OUTSIDE OF THE STORE. 
          GENERALLY, IF THIS WERE LIKE A STREET FACING STORE,
I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THE WINDOWS BEING BLOCKED BY REFRIGERATOR UNITS. 
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IN THIS CASE, SINCE IT FACES THE PARKING LOT THAT'S PROBABLY LESS OF A CONCERN,
BUT THERE'S OTHER REASONS TO BE CONCERNED, AND THAT'S MORE SECURITY AND VISIBILITY OUTSIDE THE STORE. 
          COMMISSIONER CONROY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH. 
          QUESTION COMMENT. SO, YEAH. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO OVER HAVE OVERLY BROAD ALCOHOL
RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE IT COULD BE STRICKEN DOWN, BUT CITIES HAVE SHOWN IN THE PAST THE ABILITY TO BAN SINGLE SERVE CONTAINERS,
WHICH GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PRICE RESTRICTIONS, BUT CERTAINLY BY SIZE. 
          CITIES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BANNING BEER. THAT'S 16OZ OR LESS. 
          WINES THAT ARE HALF BOTTLE, LIKE 3.75ML AND ALSO SPIRITS,
THE SMALL ONES, THE 200ML OR LESS. 
          I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN IN AMENDING THE RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE A BAN OF THAT
SORT. 
          IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO SEE US IF POSSIBLE,
HAVE NO EXTERIOR ALCOHOL ADVERTISING. 
          IF THAT'S NOT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THEIR SIGNAGE,
I MEAN, SIGNAGE, ADVERTISING, SIGNAGE AND ADVERTISING. 
          WHAT ? NO SIGNAGE ON THE LIQUOR STORE SAYING THAT IT'S A LIQUOR STORE? IT CAN SAY LIQUOR STORE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT A BOTTLE OF A BEER. 
          I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BUDWEISER LIGHT IN THE WINDOW. 
          CORRECT . I DID LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE. I DID LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE'S
CAN'T SELL BUDWEISER. 
          SO KING COBRA, IN ADDITION TO, IN ADDITION TO THE CONVENIENCE STORES AND WHATNOT THAT
SELLS BEER AND WINE ONLY WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE RADIUS, THERE'S THREE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE YOU CAN BUY LIQUOR,
SO THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF OPTIONS FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. SO I THINK REALLY ALL WE CAN DO IS PLACE THESE SORT OF RESTRICTIONS. 
          I WILL SAY WITH THE SERVING OR THE QUANTITIES,
I BELIEVE WITH THE APPLICATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR THE GAS STATION. WE DID YOU DID ADD A CONDITION THAT LIMITED IT TO FOR BEER AND SIMILAR
PRODUCTS. 
          IT HAD TO BE AT LEAST MINIMUM 4 OR 6 PACKS, AND I THINK FOR WINE,
BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY SELLING BEER AND WINE, IT WAS 750ML AND UP WAS THE MINIMUM SIZE. SO THAT CONDITION WAS APPLIED TO THAT BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. ALL TRUE, OF COURSE,
BUT THE INTENT ON THE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED, I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO TRY TO
MAKE IT MAKE THAT GAS STATION NOT BE A LIQUOR STORE, BUT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A FOOD STORE, WHICH WOULD MEAN THEY'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SELL BEER
AND WINE. 
          THIS IS A LIQUOR STORE. MY MY DEFAULT POSITION ON ANY ENTREPRENEUR IS TO LET THE
ENTREPRENEUR BE THE EXPERT AND LET THEM CREATE THEIR BUSINESS AS THEY THINK THEY SHOULD,
AND HOPEFULLY IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, THEY WILL BE AS PROFITABLE AS THEY EXPECT. 
          IF WE PUT LIMITATIONS ON THEM BEFORE ANY KIND OF VIOLATIONS OR ANY PROBLEMS THAT MAY NEVER
OCCUR, THEN WE'RE LIMITING THEIR ENTREPRENEURSHIP. AS YOU'VE MENTIONED,
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK LATER IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS AND PUT FURTHER CONDITIONS ON IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW A LIQUOR STORE ON A BUSY INTERSECTION CORNER,
SHOOT, LET IT BE A LIQUOR STORE. LET THEM SELL WHATEVER THEY WANT,
AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL. 
          COMMISSIONER YOUNG. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT DOOR THAT FACES THE PARKING LOT. 
          IS THAT INTENDED TO BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY,
OR USE IN AND OUT FOR CUSTOMERS FACING FOR CUSTOMER FACING BASED ON THE PLANS. I BELIEVE THAT DOOR. LET'S SEE. 
          IT'S A ACCESS POINT FOR THE UPSTAIRS OFFICES. 
          A STAIRWELL COMES DOWN AND THAT'S HOW THEY EXIT THE BUILDING FROM THE BACK DOOR. 
          IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          THEN THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION,
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A STAIRCASE. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE STAIRCASE. I'M LOOKING AT THE A3 ON THE PLANS,
AND THERE'S A DOOR TO THE LEFT ON THE LEFT SIDE. IT GOES TO THE OUTSIDE. YEAH,
IT'S THE NORTH SIDE. 
          YEAH, I KNOW THE SOUTH SIDE. THAT'S THE SOUTH SIDE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER HERE. 
          IT'S A RENDERING ON THE PICTURES TOO. IT'S LIKE A STAIRCASE IS THERE THOUGH. 
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IT SHOULD BE SOUTH LOOKING AT THAT ONE. OH THAT ONE. 
          I'M SORRY. YEAH. THAT DOES. LOOK, IF YOU GO TO THE PICTURES,
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT. 
          IT'S A DOOR THAT WAY. I KNOW IT'S A DOOR, BUT IS IT MEANT TO BE. 
          IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW WHETHER IT IS. WHICH ONE IS SHE POINTING TO? THE SECOND FLOOR. OH, THAT'S THE STAIRWAY TO THE SECOND FLOOR. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. OH,
YEAH, THAT IS LIKE THE STAIRCASE TO THE SECOND FLOOR. THAT'S THIS ONE. 
          IT'S NOT A DOORWAY TO THE FIRST FLOOR. OH, IS IT? NO, BUT THIS HAS. MAYBE I'M CONFUSED. WHERE IS,
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, THE DOOR IN QUESTION IS THIS BOTTOM CORNER HERE. 
          THIS IS THE REAR PARKING LOT, AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR LOOKS LIKE A STAIRCASE TO ENTER
THE HALLWAY UP HERE. 
          OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE? OKAY. 
          SO IS THERE A DOOR THAT GOES TO THE BACK PARKING LOT? NO, NOT FROM THE FIRST FLOOR. OKAY, THAT WAS THAT ANSWERS ME MY QUESTION. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND IT'S FROM THE NORTH,
RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. I REALLY GOT THE WRONG SIDE. 
          OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS ON THAT? YES, COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. YEAH. I'M NOT SEEING ANY PLAN TO BEAUTIFY. 
          THIS BUILDING? OKAY. WE HAVE AACAP , AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO BEAUTIFY ARTESIA AND
AVIATION. 
          I'M NOT SEEING ANY PLANTING SCHEME THERE. I'M NOT SEEING,
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE AWNING LOOKS TIRED. WE'VE GOT THE INSIDE PLANS WHERE THEY PLAN ON PUTTING THE RACKS,
BUT I'M NOT SEEING ANY BEAUTIFICATION, AND T HAT'S SO, SO IMPORTANT FOR THAT AREA. I MEAN,
I GET THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE FACT THAT A LIQUOR STORE IS GOING IN THERE, BUT WE SURE NEED FOR THAT TO LOOK BETTER FROM THE OUTSIDE. 
          SO WOULD I BE ABLE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THAT? WE COULD BRING THE APPLICANT UP AND ASK QUESTIONS. YES. I GUESS AT THIS POINT,
YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MICHAEL. I'VE ALREADY SWORN HIM IN. OKAY, I DID,
YEAH. 
          MICHAEL MANCINI. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND. 
          I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER. I REPRESENT MR.. 
          SINGH, AND I BASICALLY GOT MY LICENSE IN REDONDO. 
          I REMEMBER BEING IN THE LIBRARY FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          YEAH, I USED TO TAKE OUT SHOPPING BAGS OF EVERY VIDEO AND SHE WOULD SAY TO ME,
OH, HE THINKS I'M A POSITIVE MOTIVATION. 
          SO YOU GOT TO REALLY LISTEN TO ALL THOSE. I'M LIKE,
YEAH, ALISON BAGS. 
          SHE THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY, BUT I WATCH THEM . ANYWAYS,
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS, PUT A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN REDONDO. 
          REDONDO'S A GREAT BUSINESS PLACE--GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. 
          LET ME GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND BEFORE THE LOCATION,
JUST A LITTLE BIT ON MR. SINGH, BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY ADDRESSED A LOT OF THESE ISSUES WITH A SINGLE BEAR. 
          HE DOES NOT SELL SINGLE BEARS. VERY, VERY STRICT. 
          VERY, VERY SERIOUS ON JUST CONTROL. PROVISIONS ARE IN PLACE,
AND HE RUNS A VERY, VERY, VERY, EXTREMELY CLEAN BUSINESS. WHEN HE FIRST STARTED A LITTLE OVER 70 YEARS AGO,
12 YEARS AGO IN LAKEWOOD, DUE TO REDEVELOPMENT, HE LOST HIS SECOND LOCATION. 
          THAT COSTS ABOUT $200,000. FOR THE PAST TWO--BY THE WAY,
HE'S A FATHER, A HUSBAND, AND A BUSINESS OWNER. 
          FOR TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT LOCATIONS. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. PARKING RATIO THE TRAFFIC. 
          WE'VE GOT A LANDLORD THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO A TEN YEAR LEASE. 
          IF EVERYTHING GOES OKAY TONIGHT, AND AS FAR AS THE RESTRICTIONS HE'S VERY CAREFUL WITH
JUST PEOPLE COMING IN. WE DON'T HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM. WE DON'T HAVE A LOITERING PROBLEM. 
          WE DO HAVE SECURITY. THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION HE'S GOING TO PUT ABOUT $250,000 INTO
IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'S THE EXTERIOR HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          THE LANDLORD REDID THE INTERIOR, AND THE EXTERIOR DID A REALLY NICE JOB. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO COMPLEMENT THAT WITH ANOTHER $250,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE REFRIGERATORS ON THE INGLEWOOD SIDE. WE DID BRING UP THE VISIBILITY AND EXPOSURE. 
          THERE'S ENOUGH VISIBILITY TO MONITOR THE BACK PARKING LOT AS FAR AS LOITERING,
DRINKING ANY OF THAT THERE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SELL THE SINGLE BEARS. 
          IT'S USUALLY SIX. I GET THAT. MY QUESTION WAS,
I NEED PLANTERS, I NEED PLANTS, 
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I NEED THAT TIRED. I'M LOOKING. MAYBE IT'S BEEN UPDATED. 
          NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I'VE GOT A BUSINESS IN REDONDO ON 182ND. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT HIS BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY AND HAS THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE BEAUTIFIED BECAUSE IT'S IN THE AACAP AREA WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT
AREA UP. 
          RIGHT AND I'M NOT SEEING IT IN THE PLANS. OKAY. 
          OKAY. WELL IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR,
WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. IF YOU ARE YOU LOOKING FOR MORE GREENERY OR BUILDING ITSELF? I'M SORRY. STAFF. I WAS TRYING TO READ THE WALL. 
          OKAY. WE CAN DO TWO THINGS. OKAY. GO AHEAD. NO,
NO, NO. 
          I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT THE PICTURES UP. OH,
OKAY. 
          OKAY. SO, DID THE AWNING COME DOWN? THAT WAS THE COMMERCIAL BROKER THAT WAS LEASING IT. 
          YEAH, THE OTHER AWNING, I BELIEVE, IS DOWN. YEAH. 
          OKAY, AND WE DON'T HAVE OVER HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. 
          YOU'VE GOT A PLANTER. YEAH, AND WHAT'S BEING PLANTED THERE? WELL PALM TREES. I'M A BIG PALM TREE FAN. CALIFORNIA. 
          OUT BACK, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE. 
          BECAUSE WE SEEM TO HAVE THE SPACE BETWEEN WHERE THE STOPS ARE. 
          THIS DEFINITELY IN THE FRONT. WE CAN ENHANCE THAT THERE,
AND THEN JUST COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS THAT MIGHT WORK. 
          I DO LIKE GREENERY. I'M ALL FOR IT. I DID IT ALL AROUND MY BUSINESS ON 182ND,
AND I'M SURE IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE WITH MR. SINGH, SO I THINK IT WOULD WOULD DEFINITELY ENHANCE IT. 
          THEY REDID THIS PLANTER, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING THERE YET. 
          THAT'S THIS PLANTER HERE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR THE APPLICANT. MR. CONROY--COMMISSIONER CONROY,
SORRY. 
          WOULD YOU ACCEPT A CONDITION THAT LIMITS THE CLOSING TO 10 P.M. 
          SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 11 P.M. FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY? SURE. WITH ANY LATER HOURS REQUIRING A HEARING TO AMEND THE CUP. 
          SURE. TO REASSURE THE NEIGHBORS. ARE YOU PREPARED TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN 24 HOUR SECURITY
CAMERAS? YEAH, AND THAT'S A PREREQUISITE. NOW, AT THE CURRENT LOCATION AND PRIOR IN LAKEWOOD. 
          YES, WE DEFINITELY. THAT'S A PREREQUISITE. YEAH. 
          SINCE YOU SAY YOU ALREADY DO. SO WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO HAVING A CONDITION OF THE CUP
THAT SINGLE SERVE CONTAINERS WOULD BE PROHIBITED TO INCLUDE 16 OUNCE OR SMALLER BEERS IN PLACE NOW,
375ML OR SMALLER BOTTLES OF WINE AND 200ML OR SMALLER BOTTLES OF SPIRITS? THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW BUT YES. THAT'S IN PLACE IN THE CUP? AT THE CURRENT LOCATION, WE DON'T SELL ANYTHING UNDER THAT. 
          SO I WOULD JUST BE I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE CITY IMPOSE THE SAME RESTRICTION,
AND ALSO, NO, NO ALCOHOL ADVERTISING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE. 
          YEAH. WE DON'T WE DON'T PLAN TO COVER THE EXTERIOR WALLS. 
          HE DID A REALLY NICE JOB. EVEN THROUGH THE WINDOWS. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, YOU GOT THE GENERAL LIKE,
BUDWEISER, LIKE, TYPE POSTERS THAT THEY GET, BUT WE DON'T. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CLUTTER UP ALL THE WINDOWS. 
          LIKE, WE GO DOWN TO LAX, AND YOU SEE SOME OF THESE STORES THAT ARE JUST COMPLETELY
COVERED. 
          THE STORE HE IS RUNNING RIGHT NOW IN 190TH STREET OVER AT TORRANCE,
VERY CLEAN, VERY PROFESSIONAL, VERY APPROPRIATE. SO WE'RE NOT BIG ON ALL THAT SIGNS. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY. I KNOW THE LOCATIONS LIKE ON A RELATIVELY BIG CORNER AND
WHATNOT, BUT IT'S ALSO 60FT AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. PARDON ME,
60FT AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE FIT IN THAT THE SPACE FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS
PREVIOUSLY A FLOWER STORE. 
          SURE. IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR FOR WHAT YOU'RE HAVING ON YOUR
SHELVES IN ADDITION TO, ALCOHOL. WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE IN PLACE? ALCOHOL IS ABOUT PROBABLY 20-25% RIGHT IN THAT RANGE. 
          HE'S GOT A LOT OF LIKE HOUSEHOLD PRODUCTS, KITCHEN STUFF THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS. CHIPS, A LOT OF CHIPS CANDY, CHIPS, BEVERAGES,
HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, CLEANING STUFF. 
          SO IT'S NOT YOUR GENERAL. I KEEP GOING BACK TO LA BECAUSE I DRIVE THROUGH THAT QUARTER A
LOT. 
          IT'S NOT YOUR STANDARD. LIKE GO IN LIQUOR STORE AND BUDWEISER ALCOHOL ALL OVER THE ALL THE
WALLS AND HANGING OFF THE CEILING. 
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IT'S A GOOD VARIETY. IT'S A GOOD MIX, AND HIS STORES ARE VERY CLEAN,
VERY RUN PROFESSIONALLY, VERY POLITE, AND WE DON'T HAVE HOMELESS OR LOITERING ISSUES. 
          HE'S VERY ON TOP OF WHAT HE'S DOING. THE ISSUE HERE WAS THE CLOSURE OF THE LAKEWOOD STORE. 
          THAT REALLY HURT HIM BAD. IT WAS A $200,000 LOSS,
AND HE JUST HAD TO ABSORB IT WITH THE ON SITE MANAGERS HAVE LEAD TRAINING . 
          I'M SORRY? LEAD TRAINING ? L-E-A-D? YEAH. THEY DO OR THEY WOULD? I THINK THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WANTED TO SPEAK AT SOME POINT. OH,
I THOUGHT HE WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. YEAH, HE PUT HIS HAND UP. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH, WE COULD ASK HIM THAT AS WELL, TOO. 
          OKAY. WELL, I CAN ASK THE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. 
          SURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, SIR? AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL TRAINING WITH THE HANDLING OF ALCOHOL. 
          RIGHT. THEY DO THAT FOR POLICE? CERTIFICATION? YEAH. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. 
          CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN? MY NAME IS GURJIT SINGH. 
          WERE YOU SWORN IN? YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH SWORN IN INITIALLY. 
          THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE, SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I BRING MY FRIEND WITH ME. SO ACTUALLY,
I AM RUNNING MY BUSINESS ON 190TH STREET, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SINGLE POSTER OUTSIDE FOR ANY BEER OR ALCOHOL JUST FOR THE ENERGY
DRINK, BECAUSE JUST COVER MY THE GLASS WINDOWS SO NOBODY CAN BREAK THE WINDOWS OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT, BUT INSIDE WE HAVE A NICE EVERYTHING, CLEAN ITEMS,
EVERYTHING. 
          WHERE IS THAT? ON 190TH STREET? YEAH. THE LOCATION. 
          WHERE'S THE LOCATION ON 190TH? 3709 WESTERN 190TH STREET. 
          WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET? OH, YEAH, WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET? IT'S BETWEEN PRAIRIE AND ,
A LMOST BETWEEN PRAIRIE AND CRENSHAW. 
          GOTCHA. YEAH. RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM THE OIL REFINERY. 
          YEAH. NEXT TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT,
COMMISSIONER CONROY? OR ARE THE MANAGERS GOING TO HAVE LEAD TRAINING . 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT? LEAD TRAINING . CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM WHAT THE LEAD TRAINING IS?
ACTUALLY, THEY TOOK BECAUSE ABC DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE REQUIRED AT US FOR NOT SELL TO MINOR. 
          ALL THOSE INCLUDE IN THERE. SO THEY GIVE AFTER THE TRAINING THEY GIVE THE CERTIFICATE. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO BE HANGED IN THE HANG IN THE BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. SO ALL YOUR MANAGERS WILL HAVE THAT SORT OF TRAINING. 
          EVERYONE HAVE TO BE REQUIRED WHO CAN WORKING ON THE COUNTER. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLETE THAT TRAINING BEFORE THEY ARE. 
          ONE MORE THING. HE DOESN'T REALLY HIRE YOUNGER. 
          MOST OF HIS EMPLOYEES ARE 38 AND ABOVE. UNDERSTOOD. 
          HE RUNS A TIGHT SHIP. YEAH. MR. SINGH, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY,
YOU SAID AT YOUR OTHER LOCATION YOU DON'T ADVERTISE ANY ALCOHOL THROUGH POSTERS OR ANY OTHER MEANS. YOU DO ADVERTISE ENERGY DRINKS. USUALLY SOME PEOPLE PUT,
LIKE A KIND OF FLAGS OR ALL THOSE THINGS I NEVER DID IN MY LIFE. 
          SO JUST SO I HAVE SOME POSTERS, LIKE ENERGY DRINKS,
ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          OKAY, WONDERFUL. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT ADDING THAT TO THE CUP. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER YOUNG HOW DO YOU PLAN ON HAVING DELIVERIES MADE AND
WILL THERE BE ANY BLOCKING OF TRAFFIC? WE APPROACH THAT AND MOST OF THE DELIVERIES ARE ON OFF TIME
BECAUSE THE ONLY SOURCE, THE ONLY AREA WE COULD DO IT IS IN THE FRONT,
BUT MOST OF THE DELIVERIES ARE DONE AT AN OFF TIME WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY NOT DOING BUSINESS IN THEIR SCHEDULED. SO REALLY, YOU KNOW,
BEFORE THEY OPEN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          OKAY. I MEAN, I DRIVE BY 7-ELEVEN--NO, NOT LIKE A 7-ELEVEN. 
          IT'S FRUSTRATING BEING BLOCKED BY TRUCKS THAT ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN AND OUT AND THAT TYPE
OF AN OPERATION, BECAUSE AS A COMMERCIAL BROKER, I DEAL WITH THIS A LOT. 
          OKAY. I GET A LOT OF ISSUES PARKING, INGRESS,
EGRESS, ALL OF THAT IDEA, BUT THE VOLUME WE'RE TALKING HERE IS NOT LIKE A 7-ELEVEN. 
          DELIVERIES ARE MUCH SHORTER AND LONGER PERIODS BECAUSE OF THE VARIETY. 
          SO YOU WON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LOADING,
OFFLOADING OR INTERRUPTING TRAFFIC FLOW. 
          THANK YOU. ON 180TH STREET, IS THIS ABC LIQUOR? ABC, YES. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE LOTTERY NUMBERS HANGING IN THE WINDOW? 
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ACTUALLY, THEY ARE FROM CALIFORNIA LOTTERY DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THEY HANG THE DIGITAL NUMBERS THEY ARE SHOWING LIKE HOW MUCH IS THE MEGA MILLION LOTTO, ALL THOSE THINGS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE'S TALKING ADDITIONAL POSTERS,
LIKE ALL THROUGH THE WINDOWS. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW OUTSIDE, BUT INSIDE. RIGHT, BUT AT ABC LIQUOR,
THE LOTTERY NUMBERS ARE HANGING IN THE WINDOW SHOWING OUTSIDE. 
          THEY HAVE AN ILLUMINATED SIGN. ILLUMINATED LED SIGN. 
          ACTUALLY, ESSENTIALLY, SOMEBODY BROKE MY DOOR SO THAT WE HAVE LIKE A LOTTERY GUY CAME. 
          SO HE PUT TEMPORARILY THAT U SUALLY THEY NOT HAVE TO BE PUT ANYTHING ON THE DOOR. 
          YEAH. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ON THIS EXTERNAL SIGNAGE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE IT AS PART OF THE PERMIT. YEAH. 
          YEAH. OKAY. WE PUT THAT IN THE CONDITION. YEAH. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR LIQUOR STORE THAT YOU HAVE ABC LIQUOR,
AND YOU HAVE POSTERS OF LOOKS LIKE VODKA AND SMIRNOFF AND BUD LIGHT AND ALL OF THAT, AND BUD AND NEON SIGNS,
TOO. 
          SO. WELL, WE PUT A I THINK THE CONCERN HERE IS HAVING THOSE POSTERS IN THAT AREA. SO YOU PICKED ARTESIA TO PUT YOUR BUSINESS AND THAT'S JUST WONDERFUL,
BUT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY TRYING TO CLEAN THAT STREET UP, AND WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE,
YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THE SAME CONDITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A MASSAGE SHOP, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT PICTURES OF WOMEN OR MEN GETTING
MASSAGES ON THE GLASS. 
          RIGHT. SO IF WE COULD HAVE A CONDITION HERE WHERE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T PUT THOSE
ALCOHOL POSTERS IN THE WINDOW BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL IT A LIQUOR STORE. OF COURSE. 
          THAT'S YOUR SIGNAGE, BUT THE ADVERTISING OF THE SMIRNOFF. 
          IS THAT A REQUIREMENT FROM SMIRNOFF? NO, MA'AM. 
          SOMETIME, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MY MOM HAVE CANCER,
SO A LOT OF APPOINTMENTS AND SAME THING. 
          HEALTH ISSUE FOR MY SON. SO RIGHT NOW MY DAD IS LIKE AROUND 70. 
          HE'S WORKING IN THE MORNING SOMETIME SALES REP CAME SO THEY DIDN'T ASK ME. 
          SO THEY JUST PUT WHATEVER, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
YES, WE HAVE WE NEED THE WINDOW. 
          WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE WINDOWS ON THIS LOCATION. 
          SO I COMPLETELY AGREE. IF YOU WANT TO PUT A RESTRICTION WE'RE OKAY WITH IT. 
          YEAH. IT'S DIFFERENT IF YOU HAVE A POSTER ON THE INSIDE OF THE STORE. 
          IT'S NOT EXACTLY IT'S NOT ONCE PEOPLE ARE TEND TO HAVE IT. 
          ONCE THEY KNOW WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED, THEY USE THE STORE. 
          THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE SIGNS. OKAY. OKAY. 
          DOESN'T BRING IN BUSINESS. THE TRAFFIC COUNT BRINGS IN BUSINESS. 
          IN ADDITION, IT SAYS THE RESTRICTION IS FINE. 
          YEAH. I THINK THE OTHER COMMENT, WE WERE KIND OF TALKING AROUND,
BUT NOT JUST POSTERS, BUT IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION, THERE'S SEVERAL NEON SIGNS THAT ARE IN THE WINDOW AS WELL. 
          YEAH. SO WE SHOULD BE YOUR LIGHTS, AS IT WERE,
AND YEAH, BUD LIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          LOTTO NUMBERS. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH RESTRICTIONS AND KEEPING THINGS TO A MINIMUM. 
          YOU KNOW, A COUPLE THINGS HERE AND THERE. KEEP IT NEAT. 
          IT HAS TO BE LIKE NONE OTHER THAN YOUR SIGN THAT SAYS WHATEVER LIQUOR STORE,
AND THAT, I THINK IS PROBABLY THE CONDITION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS KEEPING THE WINDOWS CLEAN. IT IS THE SAME RESTRICTION WE PUT ON THESE MASSAGE SHOPS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT LIKE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, PULLING IT OUT OF NOWHERE. 
          IT'S JUST IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IF THERE'S NO BIAS HERE I CAN SEE THAT. 
          YEAH, I CAN SEE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. YOU GOT A QUESTION? YEAH. THIS ABC LIQUOR STORE ALSO
HAS SOME EXTERNAL THINGS. 
          A DONATION BOX AND SOME OTHER STUFF. WOULD IT BE A PROBLEM IF WE RESTRICTED HAVING,
YOU KNOW, NO EXTERNAL, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS THAT HE PURCHASED AND A LOT OF THAT WAS KIND
OF LIKE ADDED IN WITH AND HE'S CLEANED UP THE ENTIRE BUSINESS AND THE AREA AROUND THERE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT OVER HERE,
OKAY. 
          IT'S A HIGHER-END NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S CLEANER,
AND IF WE RESTRICTED THAT THERE IS NO OUTSIDE, WHETHER IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW I REFER TO THE TYPE. 
          YES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, STUFF ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING,
BASICALLY, THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IF WE PROHIBITED THAT. 
          OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT IT LOOKS AND ACTS LIKE A COMMUNITY MARKET THAT SELLS LIQUOR. I KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING. I'VE GOT A LOT OF LEASES. 
          YEAH, AND I CAN WALK HIM THROUGH THAT, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
RESTRICTIONS. 
          VERY GOOD, AND AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE BEFORE I GO BACK? COMMISSIONER CONROY. SO YOU GOT THE REFRIGERATORS IN THERE AND YET? NOT YET. YOU WILL? NO, YEAH, WE. THIS WAS THE BUILDOUT WAS SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL AND THE
COMPRESSORS FOR THE REFRIGERATORS. 
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THOSE WERE ALREADY ON THE ROOF FROM THE FLOWER SHOP. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE BACK UP THERE. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE THEM OR ADD TO THEM? PROBABLY GET NEW ONES. OKAY. SO I THINK I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT SOUND MITIGATION? LIKE ANY ENCLOSURE OR SOMETHING TO KEEP IT TO LIKE. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, WITHIN 60FT WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL. 
          YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF SOUND WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THAT IS ON THE PLAN. I THINK THAT WAS ADDRESSED. 
          GINA RUBY, SHE WAS THE ARCHITECT, BUT WE DID ADDRESS THAT. 
          OKAY, BUT THERE'S NO SOUND. THAT'S NOT TO SAY. 
          WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD TO WHAT'S THERE. 
          I DON'T DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT GINA DID ADDRESS THAT,
AND I KNOW THAT AT THE CURRENT STORE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO SOUND. OKAY. SO FOR STAFF,
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING. 
          IF THE COMPRESSORS ARE GOING TO BE OUTDOORS,
THAT SOME KIND OF MEASUREMENT TO SHOW ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE WHERE IT BORDERS ON RESIDENTIAL? I THINK YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK THEY ARE ENCLOSED ON THIS PARTICULAR
ROOF. 
          I THINK THEY ARE, YEAH. WELL, THERE'S ALSO OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE ON THAT SECOND FLOOR
THAT WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER IF THEY ARE ALLOWED IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. A QUESTION FOR STAFF THOUGH REGARDING THE END OF THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE FROM 11 TO 8 A.M. 
          TO 11 P.M., BUT THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES ABOUT 50FT AWAY. 
          IS THERE ANY RESTRICT, ANY RESTRICTION IN THE CUP ABOUT WHEN THEY CAN GET DELIVERIES? SO
THEY'RE NOT LIKE AT 6 A.M. OR 5 A.M.? WHAT TIME DOES YOUR DELIVERIES? THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION,
THE SPECIFICS TO DELIVERIES. 
          I WAS JUST THINKING OF THAT FOR OBVIOUSLY TRUCKS LOADING THINGS IN THE MORNING. 
          INGLEWOOD AVE IS NOT THE QUIETEST AREA, BUT NONETHELESS,
THERE ARE HOMES RIGHT NEXT TO IT. 
          NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES. LESS THAN 15. OKAY. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY IS THE LOADING
ZONE ON THE SITE PLAN IS DICTATED TO SHOW ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ALONG ARTESIA AS WELL. 
          SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY LOADING HAPPENING AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S NO DOOR THERE, THAT'S WHY. 
          OH, YEAH. NOT TO PARK THERE AND ROLL IT AROUND BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS,
AND SOME DELIVERIES I'VE SEEN. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'D BE IN THE FRONT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON
THE COMMISSION? YES, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. OKAY. MAGAZINES,
WHAT KIND OF MAGAZINES? NOT AT ALL. NO PORNO MAGAZINES? NO, NO. OKAY. 
          NO, NO. NOT EVEN NEWSPAPERS. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          OKAY, SO YOU DO HAVE SOME PLANTERS THERE. THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PLANTED OUT WITH NEW
LANDSCAPE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE. ALL NEW LANDSCAPE AND PLANTERS. 
          YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK VERY NICE. I'M BIG ON GREENERY. 
          I'M ON 182ND AND RIGHT AT THE CORNER. YEAH, AND IN HAWTHORNE AND EVERYTHING IS GREEN. 
          I'VE DONE PALM TREES. EVERYTHING. WE'LL MAKE IT GREEN. 
          WE'LL MAKE IT NICE. IT'LL BE GOOD EYE APPEAL. 
          WHERE'S THAT ON 182ND? WHERE? YEAH, IT'S BURIN AND 182. 
          YEAH. BURIN? YEAH. 
          YEAH, IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S 448 WEST 22ND STREET,
SUITE B. 
          WELL, THAT NARROWS IT DOWN. [CHUCKLING] COMMISSIONER CONROY. 
          I'M SORRY. DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED, BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN WE GET,
THAT WHEN WE GET PROJECT BROUGHT IN FRONT OF US, WE SEE ALL OF THIS, AND SO NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF HAVING TO IMAGINE IT. 
          WE NORMALLY SEE WHAT'S PLANTED. WE SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK,
AND DID WE GET IT BEFORE WE NORMALLY GET. 
          YEAH. SO THEY DID NOT SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN OR ANY PROPOSAL FOR FACADE MODIFICATIONS. 
          I DID HAVE THE SAME THOUGHT AS YOU, AS I WAS REVIEWING THIS BEFORE IT WAS FINALIZED AND
TRYING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITY AS TO HOW THE BUILDING COULD BE IMPROVED. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION IS LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE. 
          IT SHOULD BE PROPORTIONAL TO THE APPLICATION BEFORE US. 
          SO THINGS LIKE STRUCTURAL MODIFICATIONS PROBABLY AREN'T REALLY ON THE TABLE,
BUT I DO THINK THEY COULD DO SOME BEAUTIFICATION OF THE SITE, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, SOME PLANTERS. HOW DO WE PUT THAT IN THERE? SO YOU COULD ADD A CONDITION AND RATHER THAN TRYING TO DESIGN IT ON THE SPOT,
YOU COULD GIVE GENERAL GUIDANCE AND HAVE THEM DIRECT THEM TO WORK WITH 
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STAFF ON INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE PLAN. OKAY,
AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE WINDOWS REMAIN CLEAR OF SIGNAGE, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY WE HAVE A CONDITION. IT COMES DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR CODE FOR HOW WE TREAT
ANOTHER TYPE OF USE, I THINK WOULD APPLY WELL TO THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE ESTHETIC AND THE
LOOK OF THIS BUILDING AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. IDENTIFIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT GETS A LITTLE TOUGH BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT RAMP, WHEELCHAIR RAMP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH SPACE FOR PLANTERS,
BUT CAN WE SOMEHOW WRITE IN THE CONDITION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT LANDSCAPE? YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. YES, I WOULD SAY FOR THE COMMISSION YOU CAN GIVE JUST
GENERAL GUIDANCE ON LANDSCAPING AND THE PARKING LOT, MAYBE TO INVESTIGATE CERTAIN PARTICULAR AREAS,
AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND ENSURE THAT 'S APPLIED. 
          YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE NEVER GOT A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE LANDSCAPING PRESENTED TO
US. 
          SOME RENDERING. YEAH, SOME IN THE DRAWING. SO IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. 
          WELL, MOST OF THOSE WERE BUILD PROJECTS. THIS IS A TENANT TENANT. 
          THEY DON'T OWN THE BUILDING. RIGHT. IT'S JUST INTERIOR WORK. 
          WELL, WE GOT A DOG GROOMER. THEY DIDN'T GIVE US LANDSCAPE. 
          YEAH, I GET A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW,
A LOT OF CODES. 
          DIFFERENT CITIES OF A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, ESPECIALLY PARKING LOTS,
BUT AGAIN, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO CONDITIONS. 
          IF WE IF WE HAVE THE ROOM, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDING IT. 
          IT'S NICE. IT'S NICE TO THE EYE. IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY,
AND THE OWNER MAY WANT TO DO IT AFTER ALL OF THE BUILDING FIRST. 
          COMMISSIONER CONROY. I'M DONE. I'M SORRY. I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST. 
          OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. SO WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS A LARGE PLANTER UP ON THE CORNER
OF THAT FRONT LOT, RIGHT? AND DO YOU HAVE PLANS IN PARTICULAR FOR SPECIFIC PLANS FOR THAT? I KEEP BRINGING UP THE PALM TREES. PALM TREES ARE NOT GOOD IN PLANTERS LIKE THAT,
I DON'T THINK. 
          NONINVASIVE PALM TREES ARE NOT THAT GOOD IN A IN A PLANTER. 
          I RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY DO SURVIVE. I MEAN BUT I'M SURE STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO ADVISE
ON SOMETHING APPROPRIATE. 
          SORRY. SOMETHING MORE THICKER OR HEAVIER. I THINK WORKING WITH STAFF WILL GET YOU SOME
GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE YOU YOU DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SWEEPING UP LEAVES. RIGHT. RIGHT. ALL YEAR ROUND. 
          MUCH PAST THE FALL, AND WITH PALM TREES, YOU'VE GOT PALM FRONDS BEING BLOWN OFF IN WIND
AND COMING DOWN AND DAMAGING CARS THAT ARE IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT PALM TREES EITHER. IT'S SOMETHING THAT,
BUT SOMETHING LIKE YOU KNOW, THE CYPRESS PINES, THE TALL, THIN ONES THAT GO STRAIGHT UP. 
          YEAH. LOW MAINTENANCE. GOOD WITH THE WEATHER,
AND YEAH, I AGREE. 
          SOMETHING TO PROVIDE SOME GREENERY, BUT IS THERE ARE WE ARE WE LOOKING TO HAVE THEM ADD
ANOTHER PLANTER? BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM IN THAT FRONT PARKING LOT. 
          NO. THE QUESTION WAS, DID YOU WANT TO. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ADDING. 
          SO I MAINLY BROUGHT UP THAT THERE'S ALREADY A PLANTER THERE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ADDING
ADDITIONAL PLANTERS? YES. WHERE? WHAT? THAT'S UP TO STAFF. I MEAN,
NORMALLY IT'S NOT MY, I DRIVE BY THIS ALL THE TIME. 
          I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN DRIVING BY THIS SINCE IT WAS HERITAGE REALTY,
AND IT'S JUST A SMALL LITTLE PLACE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE ISSUES WITH STILL BEING ABLE TO HAVE
THE PARKING SPACES IF YOU ADD MORE PLANTERS. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY WOULD GO. MAYBE IN THE BACK. 
          I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS HERE THAT MIGHT HELP TOO. 
          IN THE BACK, ALSO ALONG INGLEWOOD, YOU'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT PLANTERS THAT YOU CAN DO
SOMETHING WITH TO BEAUTIFY THE AREA. 
          ARE WE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE THAN. I'M NOT SURE WHERE ELSE SOMETHING WOULD FIT. 
          WHERE ELSE IT WOULD FIT. THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD FIT,
AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR CALIFORNIA NATIVES THROUGHOUT, SO THAT'S AN OBVIOUS, YOU KNOW, FIX FOR THAT,
BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S ON ARTESIA. 
          WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH STAFF,
AND I TRUST STAFF. 
          OKAY, AND STAFF, YOU ACTUALLY HAD YOUR HAND UP,
I THINK AT ONE POINT. 
          I WAS ONLY JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THAT I HAVE THE PICTURES ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU GUYS TO
LOOK AT. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. SO APPRECIATE THAT. DO WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE PLANTER BOXES? YES. THIS IS THE I BELIEVE THIS IS THE PLANTER BOX,
AND THESE ARE THE TWO ON THE OFF THE REAR WITH THE FRONT ONE. 
          WE HAVE TO BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL BECAUSE IT IS AN INTERSECTION. 
          SO PUBLIC WORKS REQUIRES A 42 INCH HEIGHT LIMIT ON THOSE PLANTERS ANYWAYS. 
          SO A PALM TREE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THAT. THAT'S FINE. 
          I JUST THINK THEY NEED TO BE KEPT UP 40 TO 42 INCH TALL,
INCLUDING THE INCLUDING THE 12 INCH PLANTER ALREADY. 
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THAT'S A GIRL. COMMISSIONER. THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          WOULD WE BE ABLE TO REQUIRE MAINTENANCE? REGULAR MAINTENANCE? YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CONROY. CACTUS. YEAH. 
          FOR STAFF. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CUP SUBJECT TO A ONE YEAR COMPLIANCE REVIEW WITH THE
AUTHORITY AT THAT TIME TO MODIFY OR REVOKE IF THERE'S VIOLATIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO? IT IS. YOU CAN ADD THAT AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS,
AND IF THAT'S A CONDITION, WOULD YOU DO YOU PREFER THAT STAFF REPORTS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE WE BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN A YEAR AND JUST REPORT ON
THE STATUS OF IT, THE STATUS OF THE BUILDING, THE SITE. OKAY. BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
HANDFUL OF ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE TO VERIFY LATER. YEAH. IS SOMEBODY JOTTING THESE DOWN AS WE GO? YES, YES. STAFF IS NOTING THESE. I'LL NEVER REMEMBER. 
          OH, YEAH. I'M ACTUALLY REALLY GLAD TO SEE YOU. 
          AS FAR AS RESTRICTIONS ON ALCOHOL. DO YOU AGREE THAT CASE LAW AND CITIES HAVE BEEN FAIRLY
BEEN ABLE TO UPHOLD RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS SINGLE SERVE CONTAINERS? WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT IN OUR CODE ALREADY WITH SERVICE STATIONS THAT SELL BEER
AND WINE. 
          THEY ARE PROHIBITED FROM SELLING SINGLE SERVE ALCOHOL CONTAINERS. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A VALID CRITERIA AND A CONDITION THAT CAN BE IMPOSED IN
CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS. 
          THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. EXCELLENT. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. 
          IT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THE DELIVERY TRUCKS SUCH AS PACIFICA USE VERY LONG TRACTOR
TRAILERS TO DELIVER, TO DELIVER THEIR PALLETS OF CASES. 
          I'M A CONSUMER ALSO. YEAH, AND SO WHERE THE HECK. 
          YEAH. I THINK LOOKING AT IT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THEY. WELL, YEAH, YOU HAVE THESE BIG TRUCKS. 
          THAT'S A VERY BIG ARTESIA RIGHT THERE, AND WHAT'S THE LARGEST TRUCK THAT COMES DOWN TO THE
TORRANCE STORE? WHAT'S THE LARGEST TRUCK? WELL, YOU GET THE REAL BIG ONES. 
          NO, NOT THAT ONE. I THINK WHAT'S THE LARGEST ONE LIKE THAT? I THINK YOU SEE THE BIG TRAILER. ALMOST HALF. 
          OH, YEAH. I MEAN, AM I ALLOWED TO HOLD UP MY COMPUTER TO SHOW THEM? MAKE SURE TO PLUG IT IN. PROBABLY. I MEAN, BASICALLY,
I MEAN, I HAVE A PICTURE OF YOUR STORE ON 190TH, RIGHT? A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TRACTOR TRAILER UNLOADING BEER TO YOUR STORE. 
          ACTUALLY THIS BIG TRUCKS USUALLY GOING IN THE BIG MARKETS,
THE SMALL STORES HAVE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THAT ONE, BUT THIS NEW STORE IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN YOUR STORE ON 190TH,
RIGHT? IT'S A SQUARE FOOT OVER 190. THAT ONE IS A 1700 OR 1800. 
          PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. SO I GUESS THE TO ANTICIPATE THIS,
AND MARC, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE AN ENORMOUS TRUCK DELIVERING TO THIS STORE. 
          IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BLOCK A LANE OF INGLEWOOD,
THE SOUTHBOUND LANE AT THE ARTESIA INTERSECTION, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED YOU KNOW,
IT'S A IT'S A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED INTERSECTION. 
          HOWEVER, I MEAN, ARE THEY GOING TO GET A TICKET,
YOU KNOW, OR WHAT'S, I GUESS, HOW DO WE HANDLE THINGS LIKE THAT? WELL, MR. BOSWELL POINT TO THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS GOING TO BE GOING THE OPPOSITE
DIRECTION. 
          IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING SOUTH ON INGLEWOOD AVENUE,
THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE NOT MUCH TRAFFIC. IF THEY DELIVER IN THE MORNING BECAUSE. 
          YEAH. LEAVING THE CITY. YEAH. WELL YEAH, BUT STILL ONE LANE WILL BE BLOCKED. 
          SO YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION ACTUALLY. TODAY WHEN I WAS DRIVING THROUGH TOWN I WAS
BLOCKED BY A CAR LOADING TRUCK ALSO, AND I MADE ME THINK ABOUT THIS ITEM. THAT 'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SPEAK WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ABOUT, ABOUT HOW IT'S TYPICALLY MANAGED AND ENFORCED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND GET BACK TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION ON AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM IN TERMS OF THIS APPLICATION,
YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF THE BEST MANAGEMENT OF THAT, BECAUSE OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THE CORRIDOR ARE ALSO,
I'M SURE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES AND I ALSO THINK WE HAVE SOME 
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FLEXIBILITY WITH THE VENDORS AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL SUBJECT TO AN 18
WHEELER. 
          SO I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY INCLUDE A PROVISION,
A CONDITION IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE DELIVERIES TO ADHERE TO ALL VEHICLE CODE SECTIONS AND NOT BLOCK, YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAY? YEAH. YEAH. TRAFFIC. OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVE IS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT,
AND THEY HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR VENDORS TO ALERT THEM TO NOT, YOU KNOW, DELIVER WITH AN 18-WHEELER,
YOU KNOW, SO TIMES, TIMES AND SIZE. 
          RIGHT. SO I DO THINK THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY. 
          OKAY. SO IT'S A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION. GREAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT. I AGREE. RIGHT. 
          YEAH, AND THAT WOULD BE CITIES DON'T WANT TRAFFIC JAMS,
ACCIDENTS, PEOPLE GETTING HIT AND AMBULANCES. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE BECAUSE I MEAN, ONCE YOU START BLOCKING A LANE AT THAT
INTERSECTION IT'S GOING TO BECOME DANGEROUS. 
          SO YEAH, MARC, IF WE COULD. YEAH. OKAY. WELL,
IN ADDITION TO THAT TOO, I KNOW THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY THIS IS MISS PARK. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE AN EXISTING PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WITH LARGE SEMI DELIVERIES COMING DOWN
PROSPECT BOULEVARD BY THE SCHOOLS, WHICH IS IT'S NOT A LARGE TRACT. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A LARGE TRUCK TRAFFIC,
AND YET THEY'RE DOING IT FROM, I GUESS, ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING TO IMPLEMENT THE REASON I MENTIONED, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND I THE LAST MEETING I WENT WITH
APPARENTLY THERE'S ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED, LIKE THE RANDOM STING OPERATIONS TO STOP THESE DELIVERIES,
BUT THEN THE TRUCKS COME BACK AGAIN, AND THEN WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO PROSECUTE THE SERIAL OFFENDERS,
LIKE THE LARGE TRUCKING COMPANIES THAT CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THAT ISSUE. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE PUT THAT RESTRICTION IN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT,
THAT SHOULDN'T STOP US FROM PUTTING IT IN. 
          NO, WE SHOULD PUT IT IN, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST SAYING THAT,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ENFORCEMENT. FIRST THING IS WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT LATER. NO, I'M SAYING I AGREE. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT IN,
BUT I JUST HOPE THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE, AND BEFORE COMMISSIONER BOSWELL, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION. YEAH. WE HAD WORDING IN THE YELLOW LIQUOR STORE ACROSS
FROM PETCO THAT LIMITED THE DELIVERY AND THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS. DO YOU REMEMBER COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT,
SO THEY HAD TO COME AT US BEFORE A CERTAIN TIME AND WITH A CERTAIN KIND OF TRUCK, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO BE DRIVING IN THE BACK,
AND I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THE WORDING OF ALL OF THAT. SO WE HAD IT. 
          YEAH BECAUSE OF THE RETAINING WALL. THEY COULDN'T GET IN THE PARKING LOT. THEY WOULD JUST
BE IN THE ALLEYWAY THERE, AND THAT'S A USED AN ALLEY THAT'S USED FOR ACCESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. RIGHT. YEAH. WE DID HAVE IT IN EARLY AND OUT EARLY,
AND I THINK HE'S RIGHT THERE IS THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO BRING THE SMALLER TRUCK, ETC, ETC.. YEAH. YEAH I DO RECALL THAT WAS FOR THE LIQUOR STORE ON PCH,
THE REMODEL REVIEWED MAYBE 8 OR 9 MONTHS AGO. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER BOSWELL, I'M SORRY, INGLEWOOD AVENUE AT THAT POINT,
AND I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME, BUT OF COURSE, WHO LOOKS AT THINGS WHEN YOU'RE SO FAMILIAR WITH THEM? THERE IS CAR PARKING ON INGLEWOOD RIGHT NEXT TO THE STORE. 
          WOULDN'T THE TRUCK BE PARKING THERE FURTHER UP? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT TWO CARS PARKED RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR STORE IN THE AERIAL SPACE PICTURE, BUT THE QUESTION IS, WOULD THE TRUCK BE TOO WIDE TO FIT IN THAT SAME SPACE THAT A CAR
COULD COULD FIT IN? BECAUSE ON ARTESIA, THESE GIANT TRUCKS WITH TRAILERS PULL UP TO THE CURB ALL THE TIME AND
MAKE DELIVERIES AND NOT NECESSARILY EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          THIS LOOKS LIKE A TRUCK IS GOING TO FIT JUST FINE THERE. 
          IT MIGHT BLOCK THE ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH PARKING LOT IF IT'S A BIGGER TRUCK,
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WIDTH WISE IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE TWO LANES. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PERHAPS A NON-ISSUE. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU'RE THE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. 
          YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S NEXT TO THE STORE. YEAH,
I DEAL WITH THIS. 
          WOULD THAT FIT OR NOT? AGAIN, WHEN YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE ANY 18
WHEELERS, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE NEGOTIATIONS WITH WITH VENDORS OF TRUCK SIZES. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LANE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE A LANE. 
          PERIOD. IT'S I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD UNLESS IT'S AN AWFULLY WIDE TRUCK. 
          THE LENGTH OF THE TRUCK DOESN'T ISN'T THE ISSUE. 
          IT'S THE WIDTH, THE WIDTH, AND NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS,
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME WIDTH. 
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RIGHT. I DON'T SEE IT BEING AN ISSUE, BUT IF IT DID BECOME AN ISSUE,
THEN WE'LL ADDRESS IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BLOCK TRAFFIC. THAT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW, AND IF YOU DO, WE THE CITY WILL HEAR ABOUT IT ON THE FIRST TIME. 
          I DEAL WITH THEM ALL THE TIME. 25 YEARS AGAIN. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TRAFFIC JAMS. THEY DON'T WANT FIRE. 
          THEY DON'T WANT POLICE. THEY DON'T WANT AMBULANCE. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IT. 
          I DEAL WITH IT ALL THE TIME. WE WILL ADDRESS IT IF THE TRUCK DOES NOT FIT THE CRITERIA
RIGHT AND THEY'LL MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS? NONE BEING SAID. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU,
AND ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO TALK? WE HAVE ONE ATTENDEE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          IS THERE THEY ANYONE PRESENT HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK OR TURN IN? HAVE YOU. HAVE YOU TURNED IN? HAVE YOU TURNED IN A CARD BUT I DROVE HERE WHEN YOU SWITCHED
THE AGENDA. 
          OH, OKAY. NO PROBLEM. IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP AND SPEAK,
THERE'S NO SPEAKER CARDS. 
          PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK. 
          MY NAME IS SHELLY JONES. I LIVE AT 2715 VANDERBILT LANE AND THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS WITH
THE PARKING. 
          CARS PARKED THERE ALL THE TIME. THEY WILL TAKE A LANE UP BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PARK THERE
BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS PARKED THERE, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED. 
          I DROVE A LONG WAY TO BE HERE, AND TO HAVE ALL THIS TIME FOR THEM TO SAY THAT IT SOUNDS
LIKE YOU GUYS ALREADY MADE YOUR DECISION. 
          THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MADE YOUR DECISION
WITH THE T HIRSTY CLUB, THE 7-ELEVEN WITHIN EYESHOT OF THIS LOCATION,
AS WELL AS MULTIPLE EATING ESTABLISHMENTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. 
          WHAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS IS NOT ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE,
AND WHAT PUBLIC NEED DOES THIS PROJECT SATISFY? THE INTERSECTION IS ALREADY CONGESTED AND DANGEROUS. 
          ADDING ANOTHER BUSINESS WITH A TINY PARKING LOT RIGHT ACROSS THE CORNER WILL WREAK HAVOC
ON AN ALREADY TENUOUS TRAFFIC SITUATION. 
          AS PATRONS, WE NEED TO NAVIGATE IN AND OUT OF,
AS PATRONS WILL NEED TO NAVIGATE IN AND OUT OF WHAT COULD BE OVERFLOWING PARKING LOT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S TRUCKS PARKED THERE. VERY LIMITED CAPACITY. 
          THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SEEN NUMEROUS POLICE RESPONSES THIS YEAR ALREADY,
SPECIFICALLY RIGHT AROUND THIS INTERSECTION, INCLUDING SHOOTINGS, STABBINGS, SEXUAL ASSAULT,
SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TO NAME A FEW, AND THERE IS A RECOVERY HOUSE LESS THAN ONE BLOCK AWAY. 
          CRIME TRASH DRUNK PEOPLE HANGING OUT ON OUR STREET AND SOMETIMES SLEEPING ON OUR PROPERTY
IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALREADY. 
          I'VE REQUESTED A TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE CONDUCTED IN YEARS PAST,
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN AT THAT U-TURN GOING SOUTH ON INGLEWOOD, AT VANDERBILT, AND NOW I KNOW THERE WILL BE EVEN MORE,
ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A TRUCK PARKED THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY TURN AROUND. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WALL ON OUR PROPERTY JUST TO
SEE HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN HIT BY THOSE ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN. 
          I'M APPALLED AND DISAPPOINTED AND CONCERNED THAT,
BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE PLANS BY THE PLANNING DIVISION, APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT IS RECOMMENDED. TO ME,
THIS SEEMS LIKE THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, AND I WONDER WHO IS BENEFITING FROM IT BECAUSE WE,
THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS ARE CERTAINLY NOT, BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THERE. 
          IT IS BEYOND ME HOW THE NUISANCE CITY STAFF CONSULTED WITH THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND DETERMINED THAT SIMPLY POSTING A SIGN PROHIBITING ONSITE CONSUMPTION AND LOITERING WILL ADDRESS THEIR CONCERN. 
          BECAUSE THIS WON'T HAPPEN, WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DRINK IN THE STORE. THEY'RE GOING
TO COME OUT AND DRINK ON THE STREET. EASY FOR THEM TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DON'T RESIDE AT THIS LOCATION. THERE ARE REASONS WHY THIS LAW IS IN PLACE AND
WHY WE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THIS EXEMPTION. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR AS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS THE SOUTH REDONDO BEACH AREAS, AND THIS DOES NOT DO IT AGAIN, I ASK WHAT POSSIBLE PUBLIC NEED COULD A NEW LIQUOR STORE
ADD TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? TO US, THIS CERTAINLY NEEDS MORE PLANNING AND ASSUMES THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE UNLESS YOU
DEFINITELY ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MINDS, AND IF THAT'S TRULY THE CASE, WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE TONIGHT? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK,
MR. MUELLER? YES. I SAW YOU THERE, SITTING THERE PATIENTLY,
AND I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO COME UP, BUT PLEASE STATE YOUR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. JIM MUELLER,
DISTRICT FIVE. 
          WELL THE CUP ANALYSIS BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT THIS PROJECT MEETS THE A
REQUIREMENT THAT BUSINESSES 
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CATER TO NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS RATHER THAN COMMUTER NEEDS,
AND I CAN SEE I GUESS IT'S NOT CATERING TO COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          SO I ASKED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHAT RESEARCH HAVE YOU DONE TO SHOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
SO IN NEED OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AND POTATO CHIPS? THAT NEEDS TWO OUTLETS RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. 
          WHAT RESEARCH HAVE YOU DONE? MR. WIENER? NONE. 
          OH, COME ON NOW. SINCE ARTESIA IS A MAJOR COMMUTER ARTERY LEADING TO AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY
IN INGLEWOOD IS A MAIN ARTERY LEADING TO THE INTERSTATE, THAT LOCATION IS IDEAL TO SNAG PEOPLE JUST PASSING THROUGH OR COMING FROM SURROUNDING
CITIES HAWTHORNE OR INGLEWOOD. 
          ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION GOING AWAY FROM THESE LOCATIONS IS A PROBLEM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, CERTAINLY OUR HOMELESS COORDINATOR,
AND WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS IT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO GET THAT MESSAGE AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HEALTHY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT YOU CAN BUY RIGHT OUT OF A BIN AT A NORTH REDONDO DRUGSTORE. 
          FIREBALL CINNAMON WHISKEY AND GOOD OLD SOUTHERN COMFORT RIGHT OUT OF A BIN AT THE,
THAT'S WHAT ALLOWING ALCOHOL ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD HAS COME TO THE FLOWER SHOP BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT FOR ABOUT A YEAR. 
          PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE A TENANT WITH A HEALTHY BUSINESS. 
          WILL THE CITY ALLOW EVERY EMPTY STOREFRONT TO BECOME A BOOZE STORE ONCE AGAIN? THE ANALYSIS FOR THIS PROJECT DOESN'T INCLUDE PROJECTED REVENUES. 
          WHAT DOES THE CITY EXPECT TO GET IN RETURN FOR THIS LICENSE? IS IT REALLY WORTH THE RISK TO THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW THIS BUSINESS? I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL AGAINST CANNABIS AND SMOKE SHOPS AND ALCOHOL SALES IN
NORTH REDONDO. 
          SO YOU MIGHT THINK I'M AN UPTIGHT GUY. DOESN'T APPRECIATE A GOOD TIME. 
          WELL, NOT TRUE. IN FACT, I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A BUSINESS THAT WILL GET MORE REVENUE FOR THE
CITY THAN ALL THE BOOZE STORES IN REDONDO. 
          THIS BUSINESS WILL PAY SALES TAX. PROPERTY TAX? WHAT IS IT, YOU ASK? WELL, IS WHAT I CALL A ONE HOUR MOTEL. 
          IN AND OUT IN AN HOUR. GREAT TOT. MORE SALES TAX FROM CONDOM AND PILLS. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT, COMMISSIONERS? YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE OUT A FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME
STATEMENT. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK AND NO ONE ELSE ONLINE? WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE FIRST IS KIM RAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          ARE YOU THERE? KIM? HELLO, KIM. YOU CAN SPEAK. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T UNMUTED YOURSELF, PLEASE DO. ALL RIGHT,
ON TO THE NEXT PERSON. 
          IF WE CAN COME BACK TO PERSON IS DIANE MOORE. 
          DIANE, YOU'RE UP NEXT. CAN YOU PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SPEAK? CAN YOU. OH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TURN OFF HER SPEAKER. 
          LESS REVERB. TURN OFF IF YOU HAVE YOUR OTHER SPEAKER ON OR PHONE ON,
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN ONE OFF. 
          I CAN UNMUTE. OKAY. MAYBE GO IN THE OTHER ROOM. 
          OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. YOU'RE COMING. YOU'RE COMING THROUGH MUCH BETTER NOW. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN GO AHEAD. OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS DIANE MOORE. I'M ACTUALLY HERE WITH KIM RAY,
AND I HAVE WORKED NEXT DOOR AT REDWOOD ANIMAL HOSPITAL FOR 20 YEARS. 
          KIM RAY IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR,
AND WE HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT MORE ISSUES. IF YOU CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY POLICE DEPARTMENT OF REDONDO BEACH,
YOU'LL. 
          YOU'LL HEAR US CALLING IN FREQUENTLY FOR UNHOUSED PEOPLE IN OUR PARKING LOT. 
          PEOPLE COMING OVER FROM THE THIRSTY CLUB IN OUR PARKING LOT,
URINATING IN OUR PARKING LOT, SLEEPING IN OUR PARKING LOT, DEFECATING IN OUR PARKING LOT. 
          YEAH, EVEN JUST DOING BAD THINGS, BUT THE THING WITH THE DELIVERY,
WE'VE HAD TROUBLES EVEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS WITH THE, THE FLOWER SHOP,
WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE A DELIVERY TRUCK, SOMETIMES THEY'D PULL INTO OUR PARKING LOT. WE HAVE A BIG PARKING LOT,
BUT WE HAVE A BIG PRACTICE. 
          WE HAVE LOTS OF VETERINARIANS AND LOTS OF CLIENTS COMING IN AND OUT,
AND OUR DRIVEWAY FREQUENTLY GETS BLOCKED, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A TURN LANE AND THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANYBODY THERE. 
          THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE. WE IT'S A CONSTANT CLUSTER. 
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KIM, YOU WANT TO? YEAH, AND I THINK OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WHAT WE ALWAYS HAVE IS PEOPLE. 
          IF YOU SEE THAT THE PARKING FOR THEM IS IN THE BACK OF THEIR BUILDING. 
          SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GO AROUND TO GET TO THE FRONT. 
          OUR PARKING LOT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT BUILDING,
AND SO EVERYBODY LOVES TO PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT, AND IT TAKES AWAY THE ALL OF OUR CLIENT PARKING. 
          WE'VE SEVERAL TIMES WE'VE GOT SIGNS UP, WE HAVE EVERYTHING,
AND PEOPLE WILL STILL ALWAYS PARK THERE BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE CONVENIENT TO JUST STEP OVER. I THINK WE JUST HAVE SOME BUMPERS THERE THAT'S ABOUT IT,
THAT THEY STEP OVER AND WILL GO TO THE , W ELL, THEY USED TO GO TO THE FLOWER SHOP, AND I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN TOO IS WITH
PEOPLE USING OUR PROPERTY EVEN ON THE OFF HOURS WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE, ESPECIALLY AT LATE AT NIGHT,
SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE THIS PLACE WILL BE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT, THAT THEY WILL BE DRINKING ON OUR PROPERTY, WHICH THEY ALWAYS. 
          WE SEE THAT PROBABLY AT LEAST 2 TO 3 TIMES A WEEK. 
          WE DO HAVE A BIG VAGRANT PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN OUR PARKING LOT. 
          IT'S VERY LONG AND IT'S DARK. WE DO HAVE SOME LIGHTING ONLY ON OUR SIDE OF THE BUILDING,
AND WE HAVE NOTHING. 
          THERE'S NO BARRIER, REALLY TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT,
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND DRINK, UNFORTUNATELY, SMOKE. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT IN THAT PARKING LOT SEVERAL TIMES. 
          SO I'M JUST CONCERNED, TOO, OF THAT POPULATION OF YOU KNOW,
WE REALLY EVEN IF IT HAD TO GO THROUGH, I WOULD LITERALLY WANT TO--MOTION TO EXTEND. SECOND. 
          PLEASE CONTINUE. GO AHEAD. IF THAT WERE TO GO THROUGH,
I WOULD WANT A WALL OR SOME KIND OF BARRIER IN BETWEEN OUR PARKING LOT AND THAT FRONT AREA SO THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT USE OUR LOT,
AND ESPECIALLY ON THE TIMES WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE, WE STILL DO COME TO THE OFFICE. I'M THERE VERY LATE AT NIGHT. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE HANGING OUT THERE, AND IF YOU NEED VIDEO PROOF OF THE THINGS THAT
DO HAPPEN IN THAT PARKING LOT, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RING CAMERAS THAT HAVE DOCUMENTED A LOT OF THINGS,
AND THE POLICE ARE AWARE OF IT, AND THE POLICE ARE VERY WONDERFUL, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE ALL OF THE TIME,
AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO. 
          VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CALLING IN. 
          AT THIS POINT, DO WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE ONE MORE ATTENDEE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK. 
          WE HAVE ONE MORE. TIM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. 
          MY NAME IS TIM DORAN, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ON TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE. 
          THE PARKING SITUATION IS NEVER GOING TO WORK. 
          THAT PARKING LOT IS SO SMALL. IF YOU HAVE ONE CAR PULLING OUT WHILE ANOTHER CAR IS TRYING
TO PULL IN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC JAM, AND THAT'S WITH TWO CUSTOMERS. 
          AS FAR AS THE ACTIVITY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD,
YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ALCOHOL AVAILABLE ON EVERY CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION. 
          HOW IS THAT ANY SORT OF PLANNING WHATSOEVER? THE POLICE RESPONSE JUST THIS YEAR IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN OFF THE CHARTS WITH YOU HEARD THE REPORTS, THERE HAS BEEN A SHOOTING,
A SEXUAL ASSAULT, NOT A BLOCK AWAY. 
          YOU HAVE A RECOVERY HOUSE LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY FROM AN INTERSECTION WITH FOUR OUTLETS OF
ALCOHOL. 
          WHO IS PLANNING THIS ACTIVITY? WHO THINKS THAT THEY'RE SERVING THE NEEDS OF A COMMUNITY BY
FLOODING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALCOHOL. IT'S ABSOLUTELY STUNNING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OR ARE WE? WE HAVE NO MORE ATTENDEES. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. 
          COMMISSIONER GADDIS. ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO JUST SPOKE PUBLICLY,
YOU KNOW, AGAINST THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DOING A TOOTH EXTRACTION ON MY DOG ON WEDNESDAY. 
          DO I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF, OR WOULD YOU ADVISE THAT? THERE'S NO FINANCIAL CONFLICT. UNLESS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CANNOT BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL. IT'S REALLY A DECISION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY APPARENT CONFLICT. OKAY,
W ELL, AND I HAVE TO CONFESS MY 
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DISCOMFORT WITH PUTTING MORE ALCOHOL INTO THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT'S
WHERE THIS THING STARTED. 
          RIGHT, AND . WELL, GO AHEAD. I'LL WAIT MY TURN. 
          THAT'S. NO, I THINK I THINK THAT SAYS IT. I THINK MOST OF US CONCUR WITH THAT ASSESSMENT
AS WELL. 
          COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. SO ON THAT POINT, TO GET CLARIFICATION,
OUR MISSION TONIGHT IS NOT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER ALCOHOL OUTLET. IT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO RULE ON THESE ON THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          SO THIS IS THESE COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING AND SEEM TO BE ASKING US NOT TO
APPROVE. 
          THIS IS NOT REALLY. IT'S NOT REALLY OUR ROLE TONIGHT,
IS IT? OR IS IT? SO ARE WE. ARE WE TASKED WITH SAYING,
LOOKS LIKE THIS. 
          THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, KNEE DEEP IN THIS, NECK DEEP IN THIS,
AND NOW IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS, WELL, WHAT WAS THE CITY THINKING? WE'RE GOING TO SAY NO. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO GRANT THAT CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, AND YOUR DECISION WOULD BE BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOR ISSUING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND
THE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS UNDER TEN DASH TWO, DASH 1600, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE FOR A LIQUOR STORE. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE THIS BODY FOR CONSIDERATION,
AND DOES THAT INCLUDE BEING ABLE TO SAY REDONDO BEACH DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE ON THAT CORNER THAT'S
OUR REASONING FOR DENIAL? I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE THAT OPTION, BUT DO WE? SO YOU WOULD HAVE CAN WE SAY THEY'VE MET ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS FOR THE CUP,
BUT THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, IN OUR OPINION, DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER LIQUOR BUSINESS IN THAT AREA. 
          CAN WE DENY IT BASED ON THAT ONE THING WHEN THEY MEET ALL THE OTHERS? SO YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE CRITERIA IN SECTION 10-2.1600 AND THE CRITERIA FOR ISSUING A CUP. SO IF THOSE FINDINGS ARE NOT MADE, THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT ON THOSE BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND THE. IS THIS ONE OF THEM? I WOULD I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ THAT SINCE
YOU'RE NOT BEING VERY SPECIFIC, BUT I'M ASKING A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION BEYOND OR PERHAPS INCLUDED IN THESE CONDITIONS. 
          IS THERE ONE THAT WE CAN SAY WHERE WE CAN SAY REDONDO BEACH DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER LIQUOR
STORE? THAT'S RIGHT THERE. THAT IS NOT A CRITERIA. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF. I THINK THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION IN THE BEGINNING, AS WAS MINE, AND I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM THAT NOW. CORRECT,
AND DIRECTOR WIENER, I BELIEVE, ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, AND I'M JUST ANSWERING IT A MORE DIRECT WAY. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER, BUT THE REASON I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION,
DESPITE FEELING THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, IS BECAUSE VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY WHO'S COME HERE TONIGHT DOES DOES NOT CARE ABOUT A LOT OF
THE THINGS IN THIS THAT THE CUP WOULD REQUIRE. 
          WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING A LIQUOR STORE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND THAT'S NOT A CONDITION THAT WE'RE TASKED WITH SAYING YES OR NO TO TONIGHT. I DISAGREE. 
          WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCKS AND PARKING AND LOADING AND UNLOADING RELATED TO THE FACT
OF IT'S THAT KIND OF BUSINESS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT'S. 
          AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN DISTRICT FOUR, THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE REGULARLY,
ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA I LIVE IN, AND I LIVE EVEN CLOSER TO THIS PLACE THAN ANYBODY,
AND I AND I HAVE NO OPINION ON WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE OR NOT. AS A COMMISSIONER,
THAT'S MY ROLE HERE. 
          NOT MY PERSONAL FEELINGS OR MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          IT'S AS A COMMISSIONER DO. IT APPEARS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO JUST SAY NO TO
THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A LIQUOR STORE, OR BECAUSE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT LIQUOR STORES NEED TO DO,
LIKE DELIVER IN BIG TRUCKS. 
          [02:35:08]
THAT'S JUST NOT A CONDITION THAT, THAT, THAT,
THAT WE CAN SAY NO ABOUT. 
          IT'S NOT A CRITERIA. CORRECT. IT IS. I BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS MORE OF A
POLICY THAT I BELIEVE MR. WIENER INDICATED THERE WAS SOME A REFERRAL TO STAFF AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING BY A COUNCIL MEMBER TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE,
AND SO THAT WILL BE EXAMINED BY STAFF THAT PARTICULAR THING THAT,
THAT PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY PER DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO STAFF. 
          CORRECT. SO EVEN IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT COULD LATER BE DENIED BASED ON THOSE ON,
ON ON STAFF'S FINDINGS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. NO? NO, IF YOU GRANT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT,
THEN IT WILL BE GRANTED BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE RESOLUTION, AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE
CONDITIONS. 
          IF THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES AT A LATER POINT TO INITIATE POLICY THAT,
FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE SMOKE SHOPS, THEY'VE DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK AT LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF
SMOKE SHOPS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CITY. THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
THE STAFF CAN DO, BUT THAT WOULD NOT. 
          REVOKE THE CUP THAT IS APPROVED TONIGHT, IF THAT IS WHAT THE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
DOES. 
          SO THAT WOULD LIMIT FURTHER GROWTH, BUT NOT STOP ANYTHING THAT'S IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF
THAT POLICY. 
          CORRECT. SO THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS EXISTING ESTABLISHMENTS, AND FOR INSTANCE LIKE THE SMOKE SHOP AND I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN
EXAMPLE. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN,
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD PHASE OUT THE USE THEIR USE, BUT YOU COULDN'T SUMMARILY INDICATE YOU CAN'T RETROACTIVELY CLOSE SOMETHING DOWN AFTER YOU
GRANTED A CUP. 
          CORRECT . COMMISSIONER GADDIS, YOU HAD A QUESTION,
I BELIEVE. 
          YEAH. KIND OF A TWO PART QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL UNDER TWO ITEM TWO,
IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TEN TWO 1600. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. ITEM C THE ADDITION OF THE PROPOSED USE TO THE MIX OF
COMMERCIAL USES IN ITS VICINITY WILL NOT CREATE A BLIGHTING INFLUENCE ON PAGE FOUR OF THE RESOLUTION. 
          I THINK WHAT WE'RE I THINK WHAT WE'RE HAVING DESCRIBED BY THE,
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS THERE'S A, A BLIGHTING PROBLEM, AND THE QUESTION IS, DOES THIS CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE
DESCRIBING AS BLIGHT, AND I THINK AND I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE CONDITION OR CRITERIA THAT LOOKS TO BALANCE THE NUMBER OF USES LIMIT THE
AMOUNT OF LIQUOR STORES OR ALCOHOL SERVING BUSINESSES ON THE STREET. 
          WE DO HAVE OTHER CRITERIA AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD EVALUATE AND MAY NOT COME TO
THE SAME CONCLUSION AS STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          SO ONE IS THE ONE THAT YOU REFERENCED, COMMISSIONER GADDIS,
AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DELIBERATE AND MAKE A CASE LIKE AS TO WHY IT WOULD CAUSE ADDITIONAL BLIGHT. 
          THERE IS A CONDITION OR A CRITERIA. SORRY, I JUST LOST IT. 
          THE PROPOSED USE WILL HAVE NO ADVERSE EFFECT ON ABUTTING PROPERTY OR THE PERMITTED USE
THEREOF. 
          YEAH THAT WAS. YEAH. SO WE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION COULD TAKE A LOOK AT,
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ONE THE PRIOR TO THAT, A WHETHER THE SITE HAS ADEQUATE ACCESS TO PUBLIC STREET,
ADEQUATE WIDTH AND PAVEMENT TO CARRY THE QUANTITY AND KIND OF TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED USE, THAT WAS A CONCERN RAISED AS WELL. 
          [02:40:05]
SO THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE EVALUATING THIS,
AND IF THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO FIND THAT THE APPLICATION MEETS CRITERIA, THAT COULD BE A BASIS FOR DENIAL. IT JUST WOULDN'T BE BASED SOLELY ON THE FACT
THAT IT'S A LIQUOR STORE, AND WE FEEL THAT WE'RE AT A SATURATION POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE CRITERIA THAT
SPEAKS TO THAT DIRECTLY. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, HAVING BEEN, YOU KNOW, SERVING SERVED MANY YEARS,
SEVEN YEARS ON THE GPAC. 
          IT WAS DEFINITELY A LIFETIME, A BALANCE OF USES AND TYPES OF BUSINESSES,
CONCENTRATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE TOP OF MIND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH,
YOU KNOW AT DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY FOR SURE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THAT. I'M NOT CONTRADICTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE AS I SAY, WE'RE BEING THE CURRENT SITUATION HAS THE ODOR OF BLIGHT AND AS A MATTER
OF FACT, IN ITEM ONE SUBSECTION AND IT'S, THERE'S SOMETHING SUBSECTION C, AND THEN JUST LIKE A,
A G UNDER THE C REGULATION OF NOISE, VIBRATION, ODOR AND THE LIKE AND SO WHAT, WHAT'S BEING DESCRIBED TO US IS,
YOU KNOW, SORT OF RAMPANT PUBLIC INTOXICATION, CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES,
YOU KNOW, ALREADY OCCURRING AT THIS PLACE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF DR. 
          RAY OR WHO COMMENTED ON THIS YOU KNOW, SHE BROUGHT UP THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IT LATE AT
NIGHT. 
          OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE CUT BACK THE, YOU KNOW, THE HOURS FROM 11 TO 10. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IF THIS PASSES, CAN WE PUT IN,
YOU KNOW, THAT A WALL WOULD BE REQUIRED BETWEEN HER PARKING LOT. 
          YOU COULD YOU COULD REQUIRE THAT A WALL OR FENCE,
AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SEPARATE THE PROPERTIES. 
          I WOULD SAY BECAUSE I HEAR THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS BUSINESS. 
          THE COMMISSION ALSO HAS THE OPTION TO POTENTIALLY CONTINUE IT,
AND STAFF CAN DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, MEET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SEE IF LIQUOR STORES TEND TO HAVE A HISTORY OR A PATTERN
OF HAVING BEING PROBLEM SITES WITHIN THE CITY, AND THAT COULD HELP INFORM YOUR DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE. 
          I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YEAH, I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. 
          ONE, WE'RE NOT HEARING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING HERE AND SAYING,
WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE THERE. 
          WE'RE HEARING THE OPPOSITE. I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS TRUE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING I HEAR. SO THEY SAY THEY HAVE RING CAMERAS PHOTOGRAPHS OR
VIDEOS OF THIS BEHAVIOR GOING ON THERE. 
          LET'S GET THE POLICE RECORDS FOR THIS. WE USUALLY HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION READILY
AVAILABLE. 
          I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION APPROVING IT TONIGHT,
SO I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          COMMISSIONER BOSWELL YOU KNOW, I KIND OF HAVE TO AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MISSING
PIECES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, BUT I GUESS AFTER HEARING THE ANIMAL HOSPITALS TESTIMONY,
IT SOUNDS REALLY BAD. 
          SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, IS IT EXAGGERATED OR IS IT CONSISTENT? WHO KNOWS? BUT I DO HAVE TO WONDER IF IT'S THAT BAD. 
          WHY HAVE THEY NOT INSTALLED FLOODLIGHTS ON A MOTION DETECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKING LOT
IS NOT PITCH DARK WHEN THERE'S SOMEBODY WANDERING AROUND IN IT? SO, I KIND OF WONDER JUST HOW CONSISTENTLY BAD THIS IS. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE. WELL, NOTHING'S INEXPENSIVE ANYMORE,
BUT A FAIRLY EASY SOLUTION TO GETTING THE HOMELESS TO GO MOVE, TO DO THEIR DRINKING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND NOT IN YOUR VETERINARIAN PARKING LOT AND YOU COULD
SAY THE SAME FOR THE LIQUOR STORE. 
          IS THAT AFTER HOURS? WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR LOT? BUT IF THERE WERE A MOTION DETECTOR WITH FLOODLIGHTS THERE,
OF COURSE, NOT DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BRING THIS DOWN CONSIDERABLY. 
          THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT? THAT I'M SURE THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS ENOUGH. ENOUGH,
YOU KNOW, SENSITIVITIES BEING RIGHT UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS WITHIN 
          [02:45:04]
SEVERAL FEET RIGHT BEHIND IT. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAD FLOODLIGHTS THAT CAME
OFF, I DON'T KNOW, STADIUM LIGHTS. YOU PUT THEM, YOU PUT THEM BELOW YOUR EAVES AND THEY AND
THEY AND THEY DIRECT LIGHT STRAIGHT OUT OR SLIGHTLY DOWN. 
          IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BLEEDING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND I'M SURE YOU COULD GET A LIGHTING ENGINEER TO. 
          DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD CREATE MUCH IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF ALL THESE LOTS. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A SOLUTION,
BUT NOBODY'S NOBODY'S TAKING IT UP. 
          SO IS IT REALLY THAT BAD, OR WHY HAVEN'T THEY PUT IN A FENCE? IF IT WAS THAT BAD, WHY HAVEN'T THEY PUT IN A FENCE? WELL, IT WAS A FLOWER SHOP THAT I NEVER SAW ANYONE EVER GO INTO EXCEPT ME. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN THEY HAD BEFORE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE FOOT TRAFFIC SO IT COULD BECOME A PROBLEM AND THERE
CERTAINLY SHOULD BE A BARRIER BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE SAID, BUT I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT COULD GET THIS,
GET THIS HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EVEN HAVE ANYMORE. I MEAN, WE HAVE A DECLARATION THAT WE HAVE A NET ZERO HOMELESS PROBLEM IN
REDONDO BEACH. 
          I ASSUME THAT WAS TRUE ACCORDING TO TESTIMONY. 
          NO ONE SAID THEY WERE HOMELESS. THEY COULD HAVE. 
          THEY EVENTUALLY DO GO SOMEWHERE INSIDE AND SLEEP. 
          MAYBE. WELL, IF THE COMMISSION IS INCLINED TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER,
THEN MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN CONTINUE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN,
AND THAT WAY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RE-NOTICED. 
          WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU HAVE NOT? OKAY. WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION. I MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. 
          OH, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER? ANYBODY? YOU DON'T THINK? WELL, I'M THINKING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. 
          BASED ON WHAT? ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND THAT ARE SAYING THAT IT'S A BAD INTERSECTION. 
          THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH PUBLIC? YEAH. PUBLIC CONCERN. 
          PARKING. RIGHT. THERE'S A POTENTIAL BLIGHT, AND I'M NOT SURE ENOUGH LOADING ZONE THAT WE
HAVE TO ACTUALLY BRING IT BACK. 
          WELL, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THE 4 OR 5 PEOPLE WE HEARD TODAY ARE TELLING GOD'S TRUTH HERE. 
          WELL, WHY WOULD I GUESS I'M WONDERING. WHY WOULD THEY? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS NUMBER OF POLICE ISSUES THERE ON THAT CORNER. 
          WELL, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY A LIQUOR STORE, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT,
BUT WELL, THEN ARE THEY SPECULATING ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY'RE DESCRIBING WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. 
          CONSUMPTION IS NOT NECESSARILY DEPENDENT ON A LIQUOR STORE BEING THERE,
BUT IT AIN'T GOING TO HELP. 
          THE POLICE REPORTS OF ALL OF THIS ACTIVITY? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE AND SEE IF
THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S A PROBLEM THERE, BECAUSE IF IT IS AS A FLOWER SHOP THAT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR A YEAR,
THEN YEAH, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT 'S NOT ONLY AFFECTING THE NEIGHBOR,
WHICH WE'RE UNDER OUR PURVIEW TO, TO SAY NO AT, AND THAT SMALL PARKING LOT WITH THAT ONE ENTRANCE,
WHICH 11 CARS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN AND OUT OF AT THE SAME TIME? YEAH. I COULD SEE US SAYING NO TO THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE I COULD SAY THAT AT THIS POINT,
AND WHY DIDN'T ALL THIS COME UP WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH ALMOST THE SAME ISSUE ACROSS THE STREET? NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT MURDERS AND RAPES. 
          NO, BUT YOU'RE WE DID NOT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE GAS STATION AS A PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WE SAID NO TO ALCOHOL. AS A PLANNING COMMISSION,
WE SAID NO TO ALCOHOL AND GAS STATIONS. 
          IT WENT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY VOTED FOR ALCOHOL IN GAS STATIONS. 
          WHEN WE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ALCOHOL AND GAS STATIONS,
WE PRESENTED THE NUMBERS OF INCREASE IN CRIME, INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. WE PRESENTED THE FACT THAT REDONDO BEACH ACTUALLY IS MORE
SATURATED IN LIQUOR STORES THAN THAN ANY OTHER BEACH CITY. THAT WAS ALL PRESENTED. 
          WE HAD SPEAKERS THAT TALKED ABOUT ALCOHOL USE IN HIGH SCHOOL,
ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. 
          WE DID. WE VOTED AGAINST IT. SO WE GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT WENT ON FOR SO LONG. 
          IT THEN WENT TO CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO PUT ALCOHOL IN GAS STATIONS. 
          IT THAT IT THEN CAME BACK TO US AND THE PLACE ACROSS THE STREET. 
          RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO NOW HAVE ALCOHOL IS HOW THAT HAPPENED,
AND THAT'S HOW WE CONDITIONED THAT STORE, BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY RESIDENTS COMING UP AND SAYING,
THIS IS GOING TO CREATE CRIME. 
          [02:50:06]
THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESS AND THE PUBLIC DRUNKS AND YOU KNOW,
NOBODY WAS MENTIONING CRIME STATISTICS LIKE, LIKE WE HAVE HEARD TONIGHT, AND IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET. 
          SO WE DID WE, AND TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT, WE BEAT THIS THING TO DEATH AND SAID NO TO IT,
AND THEN WHEN IT WENT TO THE WHEN IT GOT BUMPED UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IF, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO OF HOW IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL,
IT WAS BASICALLY PRESENTED AS, YEAH, WELL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME STUDY,
BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, THEY, THEY ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED,
NONE OF THAT WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FROM STAFF. 
          IT WAS IT WAS JUST SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET. SO THE FACT THAT HAPPENED MAKES ME CONCERNED
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS? WELL,
AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM COUNCILMAN FORD, CAN I KEEP GOING? GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. I THINK YOU ARE NEXT. YEAH,
I'M, AS I UNDERSTAND, I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN AGBAJI, AND HE DID SAY THAT ALONG WITH THE SMOKE SHOPS,
THEY WANTED TO CREATE MORE RULES FOR THE LIQUOR STORES. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT KIND OF WHOLE SATURATION CONCEPT THAT THEY WANT TO TALK
ABOUT AND HAVE RULES. 
          SO BASICALLY IT'S A A LAW THAT WAS NOT TAKEN CARE OF AS WAS SMOKE SHOPS. 
          SO IT'S BOTH OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS AS A CITY COUNCIL,
BUT I MEAN, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF SAD BECAUSE, OKAY, ON AVENUE B AND CATALINA,
ONE OF MY OR AVENUE A AND CATALINA, ONE OF THESE CHILDHOOD STORIES, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. 
          IT WAS A LIQUOR STORE, RIGHT, BUT MY MOM COULD SAY,
GO GET SOME BUTTER, GAIL. 
          GO GET SOME MILK. GO GET SOME. WE RAN OUT OF AN ONION. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THIS FOR DINNER, AND YOU COULD GO THERE AND YOU COULD GET THAT STUFF,
AND IN OUR REPORT TONIGHT, IT SAYS THAT IT IS GOING TO BE SELLING GROCERIES. 
          I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT THIS LIQUOR STORE IS GOING TO BE SELLING GROCERIES BECAUSE I DON'T
CONSIDER ULTRA PROCESSED FOODS, GROCERIES, AND YET IT'S IN OUR REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW,
CHIPS AND STUFF. 
          THAT'S NOW WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. GOOD FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW THAT 'S A THING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO ADDRESS,
BUT BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT EVERYBODY SHOPPING THERE FOR THEIR DINNER TO GET CHIPS AND STUFF
LIKE THAT. 
          NOW, IS THAT HOW I'M GOING TO DENY THAT TONIGHT? NO. IT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBOR IS SAYING THEY HAVE PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE IT BEING USED AS A TOILET AND ALL OF THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONCERN. COMMISSIONER GADDIS SO SOMEBODY FROM COUNCIL ASKED FOR
SOMETHING, SOME MORE INFORMATION. CAN WE KNOW MORE? ABOUT WHAT? WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, AND . WITH RESPECT TO LIQUOR SALES. 
          YEAH, YEAH. LIQUOR STORES. IT WAS A REFERRAL TO STAFF,
OR IT WAS A REFERRAL TO STAFF, AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO INTO THAT. 
          I THINK DIRECTOR WIENER, IT WAS DONE PUBLICLY. 
          I COULD GO BACK AND WATCH THE. NO, I'M JUST SAYING YES. 
          I'M JUST SAYING WITHIN WITHIN THIS ITEM. I THINK I THINK DIRECTOR WIENER ALLUDED TO IT,
AND I ALSO SPOKE ON IT, THAT THERE WAS DIRECTION TO STAFF TO STUDY LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE CITY IN BROADLY GENERAL, BUT NOT NOT IT FOCUSED ON THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR. 
          OR WAS IT? I THINK IT WAS. IT WAS COUNCILMAN OBAGI THAT MADE THE REFERRAL TO STAFF. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK IT WAS CITYWIDE AND YEAH,
I DON'T RECALL IF IT WAS LIMITED TO ARTESIA OR CITYWIDE, BUT THERE WAS DIRECTION TO STUDY IT, POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE,
SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE SMOKE SHOPS, AND THE SMOKE SHOP ISSUE IS NOT FINALIZED. WE JUST ISSUED THE CITY COUNCIL ISSUED A
MORATORIUM. 
          RIGHT ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING. WELL, AND ALSO I'M SEEING SOMETHING ABOUT THRIFT SHOPS IN
HERE. 
          DO WE HAVE A MORATORIUM AND DENSITY OF THRIFT SHOPS? NO, IT'S JUST ON SMOKE SHOPS, AND THEN THE REFERRAL WAS MADE REGARDING LIQUOR STORES OR
LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENTS. YEAH, IT'S THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME SORT OF THING ABOUT CONCENTRATION OF
THRIFT SHOPS. 
          2D. YEAH. THRIFT SHOPS. IN ADDITION TO THE CRITERIA ABOVE,
THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA SHALL BE MET FOR THRIFT SHOPS MINIMUM 
          [02:55:04]
SEPARATION OF 1000FT DISPLAY WINDOWS AND STUFF. 
          THAT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT'S NOT LIQUOR STORES,
BUT NOT LIQUOR STORES. 
          THRIFT SHOPS, BUT NOT LIQUOR STORES. I MEAN,
WAS THIS A MISS, A MISS? I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR. 
          NO, THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT'S TAKEN FROM SECTION 10-
2.16 00. 
          THIS IS WHAT'S IN OUR CODE, AND SO WHAT I THINK STAFF DID WAS JUST COPY THEIR CRITERIA SO
THAT YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE SECTION. 
          OKAY, BUT THRIFT SHOPS OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS. 
          NO, NO, NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW I THINK AT LEAST I INTERPRETED WHAT YOU
WERE SAYING. 
          YOU SAY, WELL, SMOKE SHOPS WERE CONSIDERING,
YOU KNOW, RESTRICTING, HOW MANY SMOKE SHOPS ARE OPEN, BUT IT'S NOT FINALIZED. YEAH, AND SO COUNCILMAN REQUESTED THAT SOME SORT OF,
YOU KNOW, EXAMINATION OF THE NUMBER OF LIQUOR STORES BE BE LOOKED AT TO SEE WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE
A, A SIMILAR WRITE PROHIBITION ON ON OPENING MORE LIQUOR STORES,
BUT APPARENTLY SOMEBODY ALREADY DID THAT KIND OF THING FOR THRIFT SHOPS AT LEAST. YEAH. THIS WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED BACK IN JANUARY 18TH OF 1996. 
          OKAY. SO YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED PRIOR. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE A PRIOR COUNCIL DID DO THAT. YEAH,
I GET IT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE A PRECEDENT FOR FOR TYPES OF BUSINESSES BEING LIMITED IN
CONCENTRATION. 
          I MEAN, JUST FROM THRIFT SHOPS ALONE AND SOON TO BE SMOKE SHOPS. 
          RIGHT, AND CANNABIS RETAIL AS WELL HAS. YEAH. 
          THAT'S TRUE. ON IT, BUT I WILL SAY WITH THIS ITEM TONIGHT,
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GATHERING THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT INCLINED TO APPROVE. 
          I THINK THE OPTIONS ARE CONTINUE AND GATHER MORE TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND COME BACK
WITH THAT INFORMATION TO INFORM YOUR DECISION. 
          OR MAKE A DECISION TO DENY IT BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS, THE REQUIRED, THE CRITERIA THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS AND IT IS BASED ON THE INFORMATION
THAT YOU GATHERED THROUGH PUBLIC TESTIMONY. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF YOU'RE COMPELLED BY THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE
THAT THIS BUSINESS WILL NOT MEET THE CRITERIA BASED ON CONCERNS RAISED, AND THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE PROJECT,
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT WHAT WHAT'S BEING ASKED IS THAT WE. 
          THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING ISN'T HAPPENING. 
          SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE BASED ON THIS. IT SAYS THIS ISN'T HAPPENING AND EVERYTHING'S PERFECTLY
FINE ON THE CONDITIONS. 
          RIGHT? BUT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE CASE THAT EVERYTHING'S PERFECTLY FINE IN THAT AREA,
AND WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S NOT. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ACCURATE, THAT EVERYTHING'S OKAY,
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A FINE PLACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YET IT'S IN THERE. RIGHT. IT'S IT STATES THAT IT IS. 
          WELL, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THE PUBLIC ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE HAVE MAY BE IN
CONTRADICTION TO THE EVIDENCE THAT IT'S OKAY. 
          OKAY. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS STUFF IS NOT HAPPENING. 
          I HAD A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY HE HAD A HE HAD A QUESTION HE WANTED TO ASK
BEFORE GAIL STARTED TALKING. 
          OKAY. I WANTED TO COME BACK TO THE PARKING ISSUE NOW WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
HERE. 
          THIS SPACE, THIS LOCATION DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. 
          CORRECT. IT PREVIOUSLY HAD. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? SOME SORT OF ALLOWANCE. IT'S LEGAL. NONCONFORMING. 
          LEGAL? NONCONFORMING. SO DON'T WE HAVE. THAT'S. 
          THAT'S NOW GONE. SO AS PART OF THIS BODY, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY WE'RE NOT WE WE'RE
NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING TO CONTINUE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS SOLE DISCRETION OVER? BECAUSE I'M GUESSING IF WE DON'T ALLOW THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING TO CONTINUE,
IT'S DIFFERENT WITH A FLOWER SHOP. 
          THE AMOUNT OF AUTOMOBILES AND FOOT TRAFFIC VERSUS A LIQUOR STORE. 
          SO DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT RENEW THAT LEGAL NONCONFORMING,
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY DON'T QUALIFY TO HAVE THIS LOCATION. 
          I WOULD SAY NO, THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT FACTOR IN THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS RUNS WITH
THE LAND, 
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AND IT'S REALLY A LAND USE LAW MATTER, AND THE COMMISSION OR THE CITY WOULDN'T HAVE THE
ABILITY TO ARBITRARILY DECIDE THAT IT NO LONGER APPLIES TO A SITE. I WILL SAY WITH THIS, AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THE REQUIRED PARKING WAS 12, BUT THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO ONE OF THE SPACES
BEING REDUCED TO MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE. SO IT MAY ACTUALLY BE COMPLIANT. 
          I NEED TO LOOK SPEAK WITH THE PLANNING MANAGER ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH, I READ THAT TOO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'D BE OPEN TO LITIGATION IF YOU DENIED IT ON THAT
SPECIFICALLY. 
          WELL, YEAH, IF I T GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, AND THERE'S NOTHING STAFF OR US CAN DO THEN T
HANK YOU. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, BUT I WILL SAY JUST LOOKING AT THE SPACE,
THE LARGER PARKING LOTS IN THE BACK, THE DOOR TO THE LIQUOR STORE IS IN THE FRONT. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SPILLING OUT. 
          THERE'S NO PARKING ON ARTESIA AT ALL. I CAN I CAN SEE WHY THE NEIGHBOR,
THE VET HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE IT'S MUCH SHORTER TO PARK IN THEIR LOT, AND YOU YOU'RE 12FT AWAY FROM THEIR FRONT DOOR. 
          SO YEAH, I STILL HAVE. I STILL HAVE RESERVATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THIS. 
          OKAY, GREAT. BEFORE WE CONTINUE A MATTER OF CLARIFICATION,
THOUGH BEFORE WE GO TO RESOLUTIONS, WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC OR THE PUBLIC HEARING STILL OPEN. 
          WE HAVE TO CLOSE THAT BEFORE WE CAN START DELIBERATING. 
          TO BE CONTINUED. RIGHT. I WOULD YES, I WOULD HOLD OFF AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IF
THERE'S. 
          YEAH, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT. 
          OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL, YOU HAD A QUESTION. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
THE LARGER LOT BEING IN THE BACK. 
          IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN INGLEWOOD, YOU ARE GOING TO PARK IN THE BACK LOT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
GET TO THE FRONT LOT. 
          IF YOU'RE COMING EAST ON ARTESIA, YOU'RE GOING TO PARK IN THE FRONT LOT,
AND IF THAT'S FULL, YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER AND PARK IN THE BACK LOT. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO THE VETERINARIAN AND IF THE VETERINARIAN PLACE IS CLOSED BECAUSE YOU'RE
BUYING YOUR BOOZE AT FIVE MINUTES TO TEN THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO KNOW AND IT'S GOING TO BE OF NO
HARM TO THEM ANYWAY UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF YOU KNOW, CRIME THAT GOES ON AND THEN THEY GET SUED. SO PRIVATE PROPERTY,
BUT AND IT IS HARM TO THEM. 
          IT'S WEAR AND TEAR ON THEIR LOT AND IT'S YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S NOT GOING TO KEEP ANY OF THEIR CUSTOMERS,
WHICH IS THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN FROM PARKING THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSED. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED. I'M JUST SAYING IF PEOPLE DO IT,
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? OKAY. PEOPLE PARK IN THE WRONG PARKING LOT ALL THE TIME,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALL KINDS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO TOW YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE. 
          SIGNS. THE ARKING THAT THEY HAVE WITH 11 SPACES IS ABOUT. 
          I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT KEN'S MARKET HAS DOWN THE STREET ON INGLEWOOD,
AND WHAT IS IT? RIPLEY. WHICH IS A SIMILAR TYPE OF A BUSINESS. 
          IT'S A LIQUOR STORE THAT DOES SELL, YOU KNOW,
FOOD STUFF, MOSTLY SNACKS. 
          DOES IT BORDER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? IT'S SURROUNDED. 
          IT'S SURROUNDED BY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. THERE'S NOTHING BUT RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT. 
          RIGHT, AND IT'S DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHAT USED TO BE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 40
YEARS AGO AND IS NOW GOING TO BE A. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING A SPACESHIP THERE. 
          SO IT'S HUGE, BUT THAT'S NOT A SOURCE OF CUSTOMERS EITHER. 
          THIS IS NOT A LOT DIFFERENT, EXCEPT THAT IT'S A LARGER FLOOR SPACE THAN KEN'S MARKET,
WHICH HAS OPERATED FOR SINCE PIONEER TIMES, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WITHOUT WITHOUT ISSUE AND WITHOUT PARKING PROBLEMS EITHER. 
          OH, THEY THEY HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS THAT BLOCK TRAFFIC. 
          DO THEY PARK ON INGLEWOOD? OH, YEAH, AND THERE'S STREET PARKING ON INGLEWOOD THERE. 
          THEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE PARKING THERE. DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T,
AND AGAIN, THAT'S A POLICE ISSUE. 
          THAT'S NOT A STORE ISSUE. THIS WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THE 7-ELEVEN ON 190TH SOME YEARS BACK. 
          THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD A SPECIFIC PLACE FOR THE 7-ELEVEN SUPPLY TRUCK TO PULL UP ON
THEIR CROSS STREET. 
          THEY TYPICALLY PULLED UP ON A SPACE ON 190TH. 
          THEY WOULD TYPICALLY PULL UP ON. WHAT IS IT? MCKAY I FORGET,
WHATEVER. 
          THE CROSS STREET IS THERE AND NO ONE. IT'S ONE LANE NO ONE COULD GET THROUGH,
AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'D BEEN CITED AND ALL OF THIS, 
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IT WENT ON FOR YEARS, AND IT WAS ALMOST AS THOUGH THE 7-ELEVEN EITHER DIDN'T CARE OR
COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          THE TRUCK JUST WOULD STOP IN THE IN THE WHEREVER IT WANTED TO,
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SHORTEST DISTANCE TO WHEEL STUFF INTO THE STORE, AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE WAY FROM THROUGH THE LOT FROM 190TH,
A WHOLE 12FT DIFFERENCE BUT IT'S JUST THAT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A PARKING LANE AND THEN TWO DRIVING LANES. 
          UNLESS THAT TRUCK IS UNUSUALLY WIDE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOCK ANY TRAFFIC PARKED NEXT TO
THIS STORE. 
          IT SAYS IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE LOADING ZONE IS ACTUALLY IN THE FRONT. 
          RIGHT, BUT HOW COULD IT BE. IT'S A RIGHT TURN LANE. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU TELL ME. HOW COULD THERE BE A LOADING DOCK THERE. 
          SO IT'S INCORRECT. IT'S INCORRECT. ROLL IT INTO THE FRONT. 
          ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LIGHT. I KIND OF CHANGED MY MIND HERE A BIT IN THAT THE FACT IS WE
VERY RARELY ACTUALLY HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO TO SOMETHING LATELY, AND IF SOMETHING SEEMS NOT RIGHT TO US,
WE PROBABLY SHOULD, BUT SHOULDN'T WE HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE BEFORE WE DO THAT? I THAT WAS MY INITIAL POSITION THERE, BUT IF THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WOULDN'T
BLIGHT THEIR NEIGHBOR AND NO EVIDENCE IT WOULDN'T MAKE PARKING DIFFICULT THERE AND DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT A SAFETY HAZARD. 
          I WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY. LET'S GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          I THINK I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THINKING THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT IT WOULD,
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO OVERRULE US ON THIS ONE. 
          I DON'T SEE WHAT GROUNDS THEY'D HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          SO THERE'S A MOTION COMMISSIONER YOUNG, WHO LIVES IN THE AREA,
IF POSSIBLE. 
          WHAT? YOU KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. I'M HONESTLY MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW IN
THE AREA. 
          THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WAS MY QUESTION. T HAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME. 
          I MEAN, THEM THE BEING SO CLOSE TO RESIDENCES,
I THINK IS, IS A POINT OF CONTENTION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. 
          ONE IS TO CONTINUE IT, AND BY DOING SO WE WILL NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHERE DO WE WANT TO PROCEED AT THIS POINT? SO IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTE, SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE A. 
          YEAH, WELL HOLD ON. I'M ASKING THE DEPUTY CITY IN THE PROCEDURE HERE. 
          IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN ALWAYS RE OPEN. 
          WE CAN'T. BECAUSE THERE'S A PUBLIC NOTICE OR CONTINUE,
BUT YOU CAN'T CONTINUE A CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          NO. CORRECT. SO WE'D HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS MEETING,
IN OTHER WORDS. 
          SO IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE TO VOTE. 
          YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE VOTE. 
          YOU COULD IF THERE'S. NOT A CLEAR PATH FORWARD IN EACH OF YOUR MINDS,
THEN DON'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          IF SOMEONE SECONDS THAT AND THEN YOU CAN JUST PROCEED. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THIS COMMISSION
IS GOING TO VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT WITH THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THE GRANTING OF THE CUP,
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS LOOK AT ALL THE CRITERIA THAT STATED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT'S PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND CLEARLY INDICATE WHICH CONDITION IS
NOT MET, AND I THINK AND, AND THAT WAY THERE'S, THERE'S SUFFICIENT AND THAT WOULD BE BASED ON WHATEVER THE MOTION MAKER
BELIEVES. 
          THERE'S SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT,
YOU KNOW, X CONDITION IS NOT MET BECAUSE OF THIS REASON AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. 
          JUST SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR AS TO WHY THE DECISION TO DENY THE CUP IS BEING MADE IN THE ALTERNATIVE, IF THE MOTION IS IF THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR DOES NOT GET SECONDED AND
VOTED UPON 
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AND THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE, THEN OBVIOUSLY DO NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO A DATE SPECIFIC, AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SEE STAFF BRING BACK,
THEN I WOULD MAKE THAT PART OF THAT MOTION, AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT THE CUP WITH THE ADDITIONAL
CONDITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN TAKING NOTES AND MODIFYING THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, AND THEN WE WOULD READ THAT INTO THE RECORD SO THAT IT'S CLEAR AND THEN YOU CAN CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PATHS TO RESOLUTION,
THAT IT WOULD BE WISE JUST NOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL YOU HAVE A VOTE, AND THEN YOU CAN AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE
THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR VOTE. 
          OKAY, AND HOW WELL, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS NOW. 
          ONE IS HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD WOULD SHOULD OUR DATE CERTAIN BE IF WE DECIDE NOT TO CLOSE
PUBLIC HEARING? IF YOU DECIDED TO CONTINUE IT YOU COULD PICK A REASONABLE TIME. 
          YOU CAN PICK THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER. 
          OKAY, BUT I THINK ABOUT 60 DAYS IS IS PROBABLY REASONABLE. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD GO FURTHER THAN 60 DAYS. 
          I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE A A REASONABLE,
YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF TIME TO HAVE A DECISION BY THIS BODY. 
          OKAY. SECOND QUESTION, AND THIS IS FOR DIRECTOR WIENER. 
          WHAT WHAT NOTIFICATION WAS SENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IS THE,
YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES THAT WAS SENT TO. I KNOW THERE'S A RADIUS. 
          RIGHT, AND WHEN WAS THAT SENT OUT? AND WERE THERE ANY RESPONSES? I CAN TRY TO FIND THE MAILING. SO THE TYPICAL NOTICE RESPONSE IS 300FT RADIUS AROUND THE
SUBJECT SITE. 
          THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE TO THE SOUTH OF THE OF THE SUBJECT SITE. 
          WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FORMAL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING
THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. WHEN WAS THAT SENT OUT? THAT 'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE DO CONTINUE,
IF WE COULD GET MORE INFORMATION ON ON THE NOTIFICATION TO THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT'S ODD TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE
WOODWORK SORT OF AT THE I BELIEVE THEM I BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, AND FOR THEM TO APPEAR NOW AND NOT TO HAVE APPEARED PRIOR TO NOW SEEMS STRANGE TO
ME. 
          OR COMMENT. YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION. 
          SO THE MAILING RADIUS INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 65 PROPERTIES,
BUT THAT INCLUDES BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY, AND NO RESPONSE. YEAH, I DID NOT RECEIVE A SINGLE. 
          I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          REALLY RESPONDED HERE, BUT, OKAY, SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WAS TO DENY THE PROJECT BASED ON THE CONDITION THE PROPOSED USE SHALL HAVE NO ADVERSE EFFECT ON ABUTTING
PROPERTIES OR THE PERMITTED USE THEREIN THEREOF, BUT WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE THAT 'S ACTUALLY THE CASE,
AND WE WILL GET NUMBER TWO AS WELL. 
          THE SITE USERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC STREET OR HIGHWAY NUMBER TWO AS WELL. 
          THE SIDE OF THE PROPOSED USE SHALL TWO HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO PUBLIC STREETS OR HIGHWAYS? YEAH, EXACTLY. WE DISCUSSED BOTH OF THOSE THINGS,
AND I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THOSE CRITERIA AND THAT'S WHY MY MOTION IS TO DENY THE PROJECT. 
          I JUST NEED A SECOND. I SECONDED IT. OKAY. CAN WE GET A OKAY. 
          GOOD. WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? SURE I WOULD. I WOULD PROPOSE TO AMEND IT, TO DENY IT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. 
          CONCENTRATION OF OFF SALE ALCOHOL LICENSES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEEDS THAT OF
COMMUNITY STANDARDS, CREATING A DETRIMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THE SITE LACKS ADEQUATE PARKING,
EVIDENCED BY THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING DEFICIT, LACK OF AN ADEQUATE LOADING ZONE, AND PEAK CURBSIDE SATURATION AFFECTING RESIDENTIAL AND
COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORS, AND FINALLY, THE LATE NIGHT HOURS AND PROXIMITY TO HOMES ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE GOAL OF PROTECTING ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          I WOULD TAKE ALL OF THAT. THE ONE IS THE SATURATION OF LIQUOR STORES. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE A CODE THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE A STATUTE. 
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I MEAN, WE KNOW WE DO. WE ALL KNOW WE DO, BUT IN THE CITY OF REDONDO,
THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE UP. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT ONE CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE,
YOU KNOW THAT, BUT ALL THE OTHERS ARE RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS LIKE, DOES IT FIT IN? AND WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS SAYING ABOUT IT? AND SO FAR THEY'VE BROUGHT US EVIDENCE THAT IT DOESN'T WORK WELL,
AND HAVE WE ADDRESSED THE I MEAN, WE HAVE A FOR FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. THE ADDITION OF THE PROPOSED USE TO THE MIX OF
COMMERCIAL USES IN ITS VICINITY WILL NOT CREATE A BLIGHTING INFLUENCE. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT IT WOULDN'T BLIGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          CORRECT. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE AND WHAT WOULD IS THAT CORRECT? WOULD THAT EVIDENCE BE IT'S NOT MY, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO COME UP WITH THAT. 
          IS IT THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY. SO I MEAN,
THIS IS PROVING A NEGATIVE I MEAN, A NEGATIVE NEEDS TO BE PROVED RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. FOR THIS TO BE APPROVED,
AND THEN JUST ONE MORE POINT. 
          COMMISSIONER LIGHT THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT NOBODY RESPONDED TO THE MAILINGS OR WAS IT
COMMISSIONER BOSWELL , THEY GENERALLY DON'T RESPOND TO MAILINGS. I KNOW THEY CAME HERE TONIGHT,
YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A HEADACHE TO COME AND TALK TO US TONIGHT THAN IT IS TO RESPOND TO A MAILING, AND THEN WE GET IT IN A BLUE FOLDER ITEM. 
          IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOWED UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING,
WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          ONE PERSON WITH TWO PEOPLE. TWO PEOPLE ONLINE. 
          IT'S ALWAYS COMING HERE. SO HE DOESN'T COUNT. 
          THAT'S JUST WHAT HE DOES ON THESE NIGHTS. HE DOESN'T COUNT. 
          THERE ARE FIVE BECAUSE THERE WERE. THERE WERE ONE. 
          TWO ON ONE COLUMN. YEAH, AND A THIRD. FIVE. COME HERE. 
          SHE'S REFERRING TO THE MAKING THE EFFORT TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK. 
          THAT WAS ONE PERSON. THEY COMMUNICATED TONIGHT. 
          SHE DID HAVE STRONG OPINIONS, WHICH WE HAVE TO CONSIDER,
AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SO COMMENTING STRONG OPINIONS ALSO SO WE'VE HAD WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND AND WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO ARE WE READY TO VOTE. WELL WE'D HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE
VOTING, RIGHT. OKAY. NO, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS TO ANOTHER DATE. 
          WHEN WE HAVE CAN WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS? OKAY. SO THE SECOND ON THAT. 
          OKAY. SO THERE WAS A MOTION. IT WAS SECONDED. 
          THERE WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WAS ACCEPTED. 
          SO IF THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THEN SOMEONE COULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SECONDED, AND THEN YOU WOULD VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST,
AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO THE INITIAL MOTION. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD DIRECTION. SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS AT A LATER DATE. 
          WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS IN FRONT OF US, YOU CAN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION. 
          I SECOND THAT. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A DATE? CERTAIN. 
          SO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN JUNE OR THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION DAYS OUT. 
          APPROPRIATE. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE MAXIMUM. 
          YOU SHOULD. YOU SHOULD GO, BUT YOU COULD DO IT IN JUNE. 
          YOU CAN DO IT IN JULY WHEN WE DO IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH TROUBLE TO
GET THE MISSING PIECES BY NEXT MONTH, AND I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT. WHAT ARE THE MISSING PIECES? IT'S TOO VAGUE. YOU HAVE TO LIST SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS THAT. 
          WE NEED TO CONFIRM SOME OF THESE CLAIMS ABOUT RAMPANT CRIME AND PUBLIC DRINKING. 
          HOW DO WE DO THAT? WELL, WE WANT TO GO LOOK AT THAT VIDEO THAT THEY SAY IT IS ONE THING. 
          SO IF WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THERE'S SOME CRIME OR
THERE'S LITTLE OR NEAR NO CRIME, HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT CHANGE? HERE'S HERE'S THE THING,
THOUGH, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING MENTIONED I DON'T THINK ARE VALID. 
          THE PARKING ISSUE IS NOT AN ISSUE AT KEN'S MARKET LIKE IT IS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING
TO BE HERE. 
          THE DELIVERY ISSUE IS NOT LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THERE IS A PARKING LANE FOR THE TRUCK
TO SIT IN. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOCK TRAFFIC, AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MORNING WHEN THE TRAFFIC IS
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF INGLEWOOD GOING NORTH. 
          THERE'S ALMOST NOBODY GOING SOUTH EXCEPT THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE
THEY'RE GOING TO PARK THE TRUCK IN THAT FRONT LOT. 
          THE SMALL LOT. EXCEPT THAT'S AN ERROR ON THE PART OF STAFF TO HAVE PUT THAT IN THERE
BECAUSE THAT'S PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. 
          THAT'S THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE AND IT'S A RIGHT TURN LANE. 
          YOU CAN'T BLOCK THAT. NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN WHEN THERE'S A CAR PARKED ALONG INGLEWOOD. 
          WHAT'S THE TRUCK GOING TO DO THEN? IT'S GOING TO PARK IN THE STREET. IT'S NOT GOING TO
OKAY. 
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IF A TRUCK DOUBLE PARKED. IT'S NOW AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAT THE POLICE NEED TO BE CALLED
AND SIGHT THAT TRUCK. 
          IT'S NOT THE IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM OF THE STORE THAT THE DELIVERY TRUCK IS BREAKING THE
LAW. 
          WHEN THERE'S A PLACE FOR IT. NOW, WHAT THEY MIGHT DO IS HAVE A LIKE LIKE 7-ELEVEN DID. 
          THEY HAVE THAT SPACE MARKED OFF ON 190TH. THAT'S FOR DELIVERY. 
          YOU CAN'T PARK THERE DURING CERTAIN HOURS. WE HAVE WE HAVE PLACES AROUND THE CITY AND
AROUND THE SOUTH BAY THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T PARK HERE BECAUSE IT'S A TAXI ZONE AFTER A CERTAIN HOUR, OR AN UBER PICKUP AFTER A CERTAIN. 
          WE COULD CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THAT FAIRLY EASILY. 
          THE DELIVERY ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH ARE NOT AN ISSUE. 
          THE PARKING IS NOT AN ISSUE. YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF IN AND OUT ON ON THIS,
AND IT'S NOT LIKE 50 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP TO BUY BOOZE ALL AT THE SAME TIME, AND IF THEY ARE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CIRCLE THE BLOCK. 
          SO A LOT OF THE LOT OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS ARE NOT I DON'T THINK
THEY'RE VALID. 
          NUMBER ONE, AND THERE IS TESTIMONY THAT WOULD MAKE IT APPROPRIATE TO DENY THIS,
BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW VALID THAT IS. 
          I MEAN, WHAT ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS GOING TO WANT A LIQUOR STORE NEXT DOOR TO THEM ANYWAY,
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR THEM, AND THERE'S A LACK OF FLOWER SHOP WAS THERE'S A LACK OF TESTIMONY OF ANYBODY ASKING FOR
ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE IN THE AREA ALSO, AND , AND WHY WOULD SOMEBODY COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE TO SAY,
I WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE? THAT'S A NON-ISSUE. THAT'S A NON-ISSUE AS WELL TO BRING THAT UP. 
          OH, WELL, NOBODY SAID, NOBODY SAID WE WANT ONE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT ONE, THEY'LL BE OUT OF BUSINESS IN NO TIME AND IT
WON'T BE AN ISSUE ANYMORE, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING ELSE MOVE IN THERE. 
          WELL, IF PEOPLE IF PEOPLE IF THERE IS DEMAND FOR A LIQUOR STORE IN THAT AREA. 
          IT'S THEIR PROBLEM IF THEY'RE WRONG ABOUT IT,
NOT OURS. 
          I THINK THE SAFER WAY IS WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER BOSWELL SAYING. 
          I MEAN, THE SAFER WAY IS TO FIND OUT IF THE TESTIMONY WE HEARD. 
          BECAUSE I WAS ALL READY TO SAY YES, LET'S OPEN THIS PLACE UP,
AND THEN I HEARD PRETTY COMPELLING TESTIMONY, BUT AS ONE WHO IS AN EXPERT WITNESS ON THE STAND A LOT,
I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS SAY THINGS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. 
          I MEAN, THEY DO TEND TO SAY THINGS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. 
          THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SAY THE TRUTH. WE HEARD THAT WITH OUR FIRST SITUATION WITH THE
GYMNASTICS. 
          ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO I THOUGHT WERE GOING TO BE,
OH, THIS IS GREAT. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE A GYM HERE, KNOW YOUR COMPETITION FOR US SO YOU CAN'T OPEN THERE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE TERRIBLE ABOUT THIS,
THIS, THIS PLACE, WHICH I DIDN'T BELIEVE AND WE ALL DIDN'T BELIEVE AND WE VOTED YES ON IT. 
          SO EASY NOT TO BELIEVE. I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK HERE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION. WE'VE GOT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO WE SHOULD GET THE VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE. 
          WE HAVE THE VOTE. SO WE HAVE A VOTE. SO SHOULD WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          NO WAIT WAIT WAIT. THERE'S A THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND YOU SECOND IT. 
          SECONDED. OKAY. SECONDED. SO WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS WITH,
AND SO WE VOTE ON THAT FIRST. 
          CORRECT. CORRECT. SO CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE SUBSTANTIVE MOTION DOES NOT SUCCEED. SO WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. 
          CORRECT. ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT,
PLEASE. 
          SO THE MOTION CARRIES IS DENIED. SO THE CUP IS DENIED,
AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. THEN A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. OKAY. SO NEXT WE HAVE ITEM K ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDA. IS THERE ANYTHING TO CONTINUE FROM THE PREVIOUS
AGENDA? NO. DO WE HAVE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION FOR PRIOR TO ACTION. 
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ANYTHING ON THAT? NO. ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF? YEAH. 
          [M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE WAS REFERENCED TONIGHT. 
          WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BRING THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY. 
          IT'S PARTIALLY BAKED. IT'S ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNCIL A BIT,
BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S INPUT ON THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN ALSO IN AUGUST, WE'RE ANTICIPATING BRINGING THE ENTITLEMENTS,
THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE AVENUE A RAMP PROJECT. IT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU. 
          SO WE'RE TARGETING AUGUST FOR THAT DATE FOR THAT PROJECT,
AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, THE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY HAD THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE DID CARRY FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I DO ANTICIPATE THAT ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS PHASE TWO OF THE GENERAL PLAN,
WHICH WE'RE GOING TO EMBARK ON THIS SUMMER WITH THE COUNCIL, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SEVERAL LONG RANGE PLANNING TO DO ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
BRINGING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP A SIMILAR TO THE AACAP ,
A PLAN FOR FOR PCH, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE LAND USES. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME
OUT OF THIS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND REALLY HELPING SET POLICY FOR
THE CITY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE COMMISSION A HEADS UP ON THAT. 
          THAT'S IT FOR MY UPDATES. I HAD A QUESTION. I KNOW IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT,
BUT ARE THERE ANY FURTHER UPDATES WITH THE GALLERY AT ALL? I KNOW THAT THEY IT'S. YEAH. YEAH, I KNOW, APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN SOLD. 
          THAT WAS CALLED BACK. IT WAS SOLD TO A DIFFERENT COMPANY. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS. I
WAS CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          YEAH, IT'S BEEN ON A WINDING ROAD. YEAH, AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMIT TO A DATE,
BUT ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THE HOUSING PORTION WILL COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN
JULY, BUT WE SAID THAT LAST SUMMER, AND IT TOOK A WHILE,
26, IT'S BEEN TWO, THREE YEARS NOW. 
          RIGHT. SO AND I WILL SAY IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH
THE ECONOMY. 
          IT'S HAD, YOU KNOW, CAN HAVE A BIT OF A CHILLING EFFECT ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS JUST
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE FUTURE COSTS. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY A FACTOR THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS BUT HOPEFULLY THAT
SMOOTHS OUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT GIVES US SOME MORE BANDWIDTH TO WORK ON THE ADVANCED PLANNING AND POLICY SETTING. 
          AS I JUST MENTIONED, IT, PROJECTS DO SLOW DOWN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS OR YEAR. 
          YEAH, PART OF THE QUESTION I HAD WITH THAT TOO IS THAT I HEARD AGAIN,
NOT CONFIRMED. 
          I KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL CUP HAD CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT,
AND THIS WAS AN ADDITIONAL SIDE OF THE HOUSING COMPONENT TO IT. 
          HAS THERE BEEN TALK OF THEM STARTING THIS WHOLE THING ALL OVER AGAIN? BECAUSE I HEARD SOME STUFF ABOUT THEY MAY WANT TO ADD MORE CLASS A OFFICE SPACE,
WHICH WOULD BE A START OVER, I BELIEVE, IF THEY DID THAT. THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE. 
          IT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED, KIND OF REIMAGINING DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE SITE,
BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE FUTURE OF THE MALL IS PRETTY UP IN THE AIR,
BUT THEY ARE LOOKING TO OBTAIN THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING ENTITLEMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT HELPS, ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER,
UNLOCK SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE SITE, FINANCIALLY FINANCING WISE. YEAH, BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME THEY CAN'T GET THEY CAN'T GET THE
FINANCING, BUT THE BANKS WILL SAY, WELL, IF THERE WAS MORE HOUSING,
WELL, THEY GAVE UP THAT HOUSING IN ORDER TO GET THE DEAL THAT THEY HAD. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT CIRCLING AROUND AND ADDING IT ALL BACK IN KIND OF MADE THE WHOLE
EXERCISE A WASTE OF TIME. I MEAN, WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IF, YOU KNOW,
THE NEXT TIME WE DENY SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING OFF POINT. WE'RE NOW PREACHING TO THE STAFF ABOUT AN UPDATE. 
          WE'RE ASKING, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT WELL TAKEN. 
          WE JUST NEED TO KNOW. WE'LL TAKE IT, BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING,
MR. DIRECTOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS, AND HE'S JUST GIVING US WHAT HE MEANS. SO THERE'S REALLY. 
          IT GETS REALLY COMPLICATED WHEN YOU SAY, WELL,
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN GOING FORWARD IF WE ALLOW THEM TO GO BACK AND GIVE THEM THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEAL WITH AT THAT POINT,
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'LL BE TOO LATE AT THAT POINT, AND THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT 'S NOT THIS ITEM IS FOR FOR THE DIRECTOR JUST TO GIVE BRIEF UPDATES ON PLANNING ITEMS COMING
BEFORE THE COMMISSION. 
          VERY GOOD. FAIR ENOUGH THEN. ANY OTHER UPDATES ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? REFERRALS OF STAFF. WE HAVE COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS. 
          [N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]
NEXT. ANYTHING? NOPE. OKAY. THEN NEXT WE HAVE ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          [03:30:10]
OH. DO WE HAVE REFERRALS TO STAFF? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? NO, NO, WE IT JUST SAYS COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS IS THE
TITLE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A REFERRALS TO STAFF SECTION ANYMORE. 
          SEE ONE HERE. OKAY. WELL THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT SECTION,
BUT THEY TOOK IT OFF. 
          I KNOW. GOOD, GOOD. REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK. OPEN THE REFERRALS. 
          SO FEEL FREE. OKAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. 
          THANKS FOR PUTTING IN THE CROSSWALK AT HARKNESS AND AGATE. 
          IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED. GOT A LOT OF KIDS AND AUTOMOBILES GOING THROUGH THERE. 
          SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING. DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE PRESENTATIONS
THAT YOU GUYS DO BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          IS THAT AVAILABLE? WE COULD ARRANGE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          USUALLY IF THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE DONE. I UNDERSTAND THEY MIGHT NOT BE DONE UNTIL RIGHT
BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          YEAH. SO FRANKLY, WE'RE USUALLY GETTING THEM DONE LIKE THE DAY OF THE MEETING,
BUT THE COMMISSION WOULD PREFER TO RECEIVE THEM AHEAD OF TIME. 
          WE COULD AS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM, I IT WOULD HELP ME. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO READ THROUGH IT BEFOREHAND. YEAH. OKAY. 
          SO, YEAH, WE'LL BE GOOD. WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THAT. 
          MAYBE EVEN IF POSSIBLE, CAN GO OUT AS AN ATTACHMENT WITH THE PACKET. 
          I'VE BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO DOING THAT IN PAST CITIES. 
          SO LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AT A MINIMUM,
I COULD SAY THAT WE COULD GET IT OUT PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO THAT YOU HAVE A FEW DAYS TO DIGEST IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          I HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE'RE DONE. 
          GREAT. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.