Jun 16, 2025 Public Safety Commission

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

MONDAY, JUNE 16TH, 2025 7 P.M.. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL. HERE. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

HERE. COMMISSIONER GAUL. HERE. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. HERE. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

HERE. COMMISSIONER. WODNICKI . HERE. ROLL CALL COMPLETE.

WE ALL SALUTE THE FLAG. ALL RISE. MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC SERVICE PEOPLE.

YES. OKAY, GREAT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. CHAIR. ABSOLUTELY. ITEM D, APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

IS THAT WHERE OUR GUEST IS?. THAT'S WHERE OUR GUEST IS? J.1?. I'M SORRY. JUST A TINY BIT LOUDER. OH, IS OUR GUEST AT J.1?.

STAND BY.

OH, SO IT CAN REMAIN THERE. SO ARE YOU SHOOTING MY MOTION DOWN BEFORE I MAKE IT? [LAUGHTER] I'M KIDDING, I'M KIDDING. OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. ANY CHANGE TO THE AGENDA OR WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS IS.

ROLL CALL OR DO I JUST. MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND.

THERE WE GO. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PERFECT. ITEM E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. ANY BLUE? NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. THANK YOU.

CONSENT CALENDAR. CONSENT CALENDAR CONSISTS OF AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING, WHICH BASICALLY WE POSTED THAT THIS MEETING IS OCCURRING TONIGHT

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

MOTION TO ACCEPT CONSENT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OH, I SAY I IN FAVOR. I, ME.

OKAY. ITEM G EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. NONE EXCLUDED. PERFECT. ITEM H, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

ANYONE ONLINE. THERE IS SOMEONE ON. NO ECOMMENTS AND THERE'S A ZOOM PERSON.

LET ME SET UP HERE BEFORE I. SORRY. ALL GOOD.

WE'RE MOVING KIND OF FAST. LET ME SLOW DOWN. I THINK I JUST PUSHED THIS BUTTON.

FOR MARK NELSON. HEY, I THINK YOU DID REALLY WELL.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. YESTERDAY WE SUBMITTED SOME COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE PROSPECT FRONTAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE ONE WAY SEGMENT OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD. IT RUNS FROM DIAMOND TO THE INTERSECTION ACROSS FROM BEACH CITIES.

THE COMMENTS FOCUSED ON TWO SAFETY CONCERNS, WRONG WAY TRAFFIC AND THE LACK OF VISIBILITY INTO THE BUS STOP AT THAT INTERSECTION.

IN TERMS OF THE WRONG WAY TRAFFIC, IT COMES BASICALLY FROM THREE SOURCES.

WE'VE GOT REPEAT OFFENDERS WHO LABEL THEMSELVES AS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WHO WE ARE AND WE DO WHAT WE WANT.

WE'VE GOT WRONG-WAY DRIVERS SUCH AS RIDESHARE SERVICE VEHICLES, PERSONAL DROP OFFS.

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AS THOUGH THAT'S A THING YOU SHOULD EVER SAY.

AND THEN THE THIRD SOURCE REALLY ARE WRONG-WAY U-TURNS THAT COME OFF BIG PROSPECT.

BIG PROSPECT HAS NO U-TURNS AT THE BEACH CITIES INTERSECTION.

SIGNAGE IS PRETTY SMALL OUR DIRECTION, PARKING IS ALLOWED IN THE T INTERSECTION ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, AND FREQUENTLY THERE'S CARS PARKED POINTED THE WRONG WAY DOWN THE ONE WAY.

SO IT'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING MAKING A LEFT NOT TO THINK THEY CAN FLIP A U THERE.

BRIEFLY WE DEVELOPED A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS. ONE IS TO BAN PARKING IN THE T INTERSECTION.

THAT'S KIND OF THE THE NORMAL GOLD STANDARD. THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO HAVE DIRECTIONAL PARKING SO THAT THE SOUTH CAR IS ALWAYS FACING NORTH TO SEND A CLEAR COGNITIVE SIGNAL THAT TRAFFIC COMES OUT OF THAT ONE WAY, THAT DIRECTION.

SECOND ISSUE IS THE BUS STOP. PARKING IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN FRONT OF THE BUS STOP, AND THAT CAUSES A PROBLEM BECAUSE RESIDENTS CAN'T SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BUS STOP.

A UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA STUDY SHOWED THAT VISIBILITY IS A KEY ATTRIBUTE OF SAFETY AT BUS STOP AREAS.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD LATE NIGHT PATIENT DUMPING.

WE'VE HAD PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH EVENTS, SCREAMERS.

WE'VE RECENTLY HAD SOME UNHOUSED WITH THEIR LARGE DOGS.

AND NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE COUNTY OF LA NOTIFIED THE CITY OF A CHILD PREDATOR INVESTIGATION IN THE AREA.

SO WE HONESTLY THINK THIS IS A SMALL ASK. WE JUST WANT A 20 FOOT STRIPE OF A RED CURB PAINT THERE SO THAT THE BUS STOP CAN SORT OF MEET THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA STUDY AND BE TRANSPARENT 24 /7 .

NOBODY WANTS AN UNATTENDED CHILD OR SOMEBODY IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS TO WIND UP RUNNING OUT INTO 50 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC, SIMPLY BECAUSE NONE OF US COULD SEE IT. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND REVIEW.

AND WE ARE ALSO PROCEEDING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS.

ONE MOMENT SIR. MOTION TO EXTEND 30S. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? SIR. CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS WONDERFUL. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE THE PUBLIC WORKS SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON SPEED ISSUES WE HAD AND WE WERE WORKING ON MAYBE TRYING TO GET SPEED BUMPS. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON SOUND WALL AND MAYBE SOME GUARDRAILS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A MULTIFACETED EFFORT BY THE FRONTAGE NEIGHBORS, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER PERSONS ONLINE, ANY? NO OTHER ONLINE ATTENDEES? OKAY. IS THE PERSON STILL ONLINE? WHO JUST SPOKE? THE SAME NAME IS UP. OKAY. I SORT OF FURTHER UNPACKED THAT SEGMENT, WHILE THE COMMISSION CAN'T ENGAGE THE PERSON THAT'S ONLINE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO SEND IN, WE'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT.

SO I SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT AS A PREDICATE. SO WHILE WE CAN'T SORT OF ENGAGE WITH WHAT WAS SAID, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WANTS TO BE SENT IN THAT IS ALSO INBOUNDS.

THERE WAS AN EMAIL. THERE WAS SOME MATERIAL THAT REACHED ME.

OKAY. VERY LATE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO CONFIRM THE SOURCE BECAUSE I GOT IT FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS ISSUE. OKAY. FOR SEPARATE REASONS.

SO I CAN I CAN GET WITH YOU GUYS ON THE SIDE.

THAT'D BE GREAT. FILL YOU IN. THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT THERE MAY BE MATERIAL FOR THIS SEGMENT THAT WILL BE ADDED LATER.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WHAT WE HEARD, BUT I'LL RESERVE FOR REFERRALS TO STAFF.

EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS. THAT WAS GOING TO BE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE ITEM J, I'M SORRY, K.1 IS WHERE WE CAN MAKE OUR MOTION TO POTENTIALLY HAVE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? ANYONE? OKAY. NON AGENDA ITEM. YES.

EVENING COMMISSION. IT'S ALWAYS A PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS JIM MUELLER. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

I HAVE TWO SAFETY ITEMS. SOME PEOPLE THINK FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING, ANY WAY, ANY TIME. IT'S NOT TRUE. THERE'S PROTECTED SPEECH AND THERE IS UNLAWFUL SPEECH.

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NOT ONLY BY WHAT HE SAID TO THE COUNCIL, BUT BY HIS VIOLENT MANNER.

WHILE I COMMEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR NOT TAKING HIM DOWN IN, IN AT A PUBLIC MEETING BEING RECORDED ON VIDEO, SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE TO RESTRICT AND RESTRAIN NONRESIDENT SPEAKERS LIKE MR. TURDA AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. THAT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, NUMBER ONE.

ANOTHER TOPIC, ARTESIA BOULEVARD, IS SURROUNDED BY THOUSANDS OF FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS WITH HIGH MEDIAN INCOME.

ARTESIA SHOULD BE AN ATTRACTIVE LOCATION FOR A HIGHER CLASS AND LARGER SIZE OF BUSINESS THAN WHAT IS THERE.

WHY ISN'T IT? THE ARTESIA AVIATION CORRIDOR ACTION PLAN WAS ADOPTED ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED, AND ITS FUTURE IS IN DOUBT.

I'VE LIVED ONE BLOCK FROM ARTESIA FOR 17 YEARS.

I KNOW THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT AND THROUGH MY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE, I KNOW WHAT MATTERS TO A BUSINESS AND HOW THEY ARE RUN.

ALSO, I DID MY OWN MINI INFORMAL SURVEY OF OTHERS WHO LIVED NEAR ARTESIA AND ASKED THEM WHETHER ARTESIA BOULEVARD IS A PLACE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEND TIME LEISURELY SHOPPING OR DINING, OTHER THAN A QUICK BITE OR TAKEOUT.

A MAJORITY SAID THEY DON'T DO THAT NOW AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T IN THE FUTURE.

THEY PREFER PLACES LIKE MANHATTAN VILLAGE, DEL AMO MALL, OR HERMOSA PIER.

WHY? A MAJOR REASON IS THOSE LOCATIONS ARE UNLIKE ARTESIA BOULEVARD, ISOLATED FROM TRAFFIC.

I MENTIONED SOME OF THE AACAP IMPROVEMENTS AND STILL THEY SAID PROBABLY THEY WOULDN'T BE ON ARTESIA ANYMORE.

MY RESPONDENTS SAY THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND UNSAFE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES BY THE PROXIMITY OF FAST MOVING AND NOISY TRAFFIC THAT SEEMS TOO NEAR THE NARROW SIDEWALKS. MANY ARTESIA DRIVERS EXCEED 35 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.

PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN USED TO GOING FAST TRYING TO CATCH THE TIMING OF THE LIGHTS.

SOME OF THE SPEEDERS ARE LOUD AND FRIGHTENING.

HERE TO RECEIVE AND FILE IF YOU WISH, IS MY PLAN TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY ON ARTESIA AND PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE COMMUNITY FEELS COMFORTABLE SPENDING TIME PATRONIZING BUSINESSES THAT WILL REWARD THE CITY WITH IMPROVED TAX REVENUE.

MY PLAN WILL RESULT IN A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE THAT WILL BE SAFER AND BETTER FOR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM I ONE ITEM. ITEM I. SORRY. ONE SECOND.

OKAY. YEP. YOU MAY PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. ITEM I.1. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT.

[I. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS]

THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR, I GUESS, THE 25-26 NOW AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE.

ITEM I.2, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO KEEP THIS OR MOVE ALONG OR SEND A NOTE TO CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE. I'M SORRY. ANY COMMENTS ON ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? OH, NO. ANY COMMENTS AROUND THE DICE? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM I.2. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO KEEP THIS LIST, REVIEW THIS LIST, OR JUST TABLE THIS ITEM ALTOGETHER.

SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER NEHRENHEIM IS NO LONGER COUNCILMEMBER, WE NEED TO VOTE ON WHAT WE DO.

I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE IT AS AN ITEM FROM OUR AGENDA LATER ON, BUT I AGREE, HE'S NO LONGER A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE ITEMS ON THAT LIST WE BROUGHT UP TO ADDRESS AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

I WOULD SECOND THE MOTION. ROLL CALL. THAT WAS A MOTION TO REMOVE I.2.

YES. GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL .

AYE. COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION.

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YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. COOL. COMMISSIONER GAUL. AYE.

COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM . AYE. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

AYE. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. AYE. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

AYE. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT, I.3. I WANT TO SAY IS MOOT, BUT WE DID WANT TO HAVE RYAN COME BACK AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

THAT'S THE ONLY SORT OF ITEM AWAITING FOR THAT.

SO IF HE WANTS TO DO IT BY MEMO OR IN PERSON.

IF I CAN GIVE SOME INFORMATIVE INPUT THERE THEY ARE PLANNING TO TAKE ALL OF THESE ISSUES UP EXCLUSIVELY IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

SO THAT WAS THE NOTE MADE TO ME BY THEIR STAFF.

OKAY. SO THEY LIKELY WON'T RETURN HERE TO DISCUSS IT.

THEY'LL DO THEIR WORK EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THAT COMMISSION.

GOT IT. DISCUSS.

I HAVE A POINT. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER GAUL.

THANK YOU. DOES THE CITY FEEL THAT PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION IS MORE QUALIFIED ON THIS TOPIC THAN PUBLIC SAFETY? I MEAN, WE HAVE A QUALITY ENGINEER FROM AEROSPACE, FOR EXAMPLE, RETIRED LIEUTENANT, LAPD.

WE HAVE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR. WE HAVE AN HR SPECIALIST.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN NGO MANAGEMENT, AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WORKS AT CITY.

WHAT WERE YOU SAYING IN RELATION TO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA.

RENT CONTROL. RENT CONTROL. AND MYSELF IN MEDICAL DEVICE MANUFACTURING.

DOES THE CITY FEEL THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS SOMEHOW MORE INTELLECTUALLY QUALIFIED THAN.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I GATHERED. I JUST, BASED ON WHAT THEY SAID WAS SPECULATE THAT THEIR PURVIEW FOR THIS IS MORE SO FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.

YEAH. AND TO NOT DUPLICATE WORK THEY WOULD TAKE IT UP EXCLUSIVELY IN THAT COMMISSION AND LET THIS COMMISSION FOCUS ON, LIKE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, LIKE POLICE AND FIRE.

SO IN THAT CASE, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, LIKE ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY.

I HAVE A QUESTION. A FOLLOW UP. SURE. WAS THAT A DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL? FROM STAFF, FROM PUBLIC WORKS STAFF. IT WAS FROM PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.

YEAH. WASN'T THIS RAISED AS A SAFETY ISSUE FROM THE CITIZEN AND THE COMMUNITY? AND DID THEY COME HERE? YEAH [LAUGHTER]. AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S VERY PERTINENT TO THIS COMMISSION AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC WORKS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. YEAH I DON'T. PUBLIC WORKS CAN IMPLEMENT FOR SURE.

BUT HOW ABOUT THIS? LET ME MAKE A MOTION. NOT THAT IT'S NOT RELEVANT LIKE ON THE POLICE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

THAT WOULD JUST BE THE PURVIEW HERE. IT WOULD BE.

FOR SURE. BUT IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF, LIKE, THE PRESENTATIONS, A COPY OF THE ROADMAP, COPY OF, LIKE, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. SO IT'S NOT DUPLICATIVE.

IT'S MORE FYI. SO WE CAN SEE LIKE HERE IS BECAUSE THEY CAME AND MADE A WHOLE PRESENTATION HERE.

AND THEY COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS COMMISSION THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

SO IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF. YEAH I CAN SEND YOU ALL THEIR AGENDAS.

YEAH, YEAH. AND LIKE IF THEY ARE DOING A PRESENTATION THAT SAYS, THIS IS A STATUS UPDATE, THAT SORT OF THING. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR US TO BE FYI ON THE WORK.

AND LET THAT SIT WHILE WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATION.

THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

YES. WHAT CONCERNS ME AGAIN, AND I THINK IS IMPORTANT ONE IS THAT THEY CAME TO US WITH THIS, AND THIS IS STILL AND WILL ALWAYS BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT TYPE OF CONCERN WHETHER THEY DO WHATEVER STUDIES THEY MAY DO,

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THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME OR CONCERNS ME, RATHER, IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHATEVER REFERRAL EXCUSE REASON EXPLANATION THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN YOU TO GIVE TO US AS OPPOSED TO AN ANECDOTAL.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM THEM TO ENSURE THAT THAT BEFORE WE EITHER ONE NOT CAN CONTINUE WITH IT OR.

I MEAN, IF IT'S LOGICAL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A LOGICAL ARGUMENT, THEN WE CAN SEE THAT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF RELAYING VERBALLY ON THINGS AND THEN RELYING ON A SUMMATIONS OF CERTAIN THINGS. SO EITHER AN EMAIL FROM THEM, SOMETHING FORMALIZED INDICATING THAT IT IS PROBABLY A BETTER, AND THEN WITH THE REASONS DELINEATED AS TO WHY THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT COMMISSION IS BETTER SUITED FOR IT, LIKE AN MOU. THEY DIDN'T SAY BETTER SUITED, I TAKE YOU AT YOUR POINT.

THEY'RE EXCLUDING US. YES. YEAH. LET ME FINISH.

PLEASE. GO AHEAD. YEAH. LET ME FINISH. OKAY. HOWEVER WAY WHATEVER DISCUSSION WOULD BE SO THAT WE CAN THEN MAKE A MORE INTELLIGENT APPROACH TO IT ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DECIDE ON.

THE OTHER THING WITH THIS, AGAIN, IS THAT I HAVE IN BIGGER PICTURE, I HAVE NO REAL ISSUE THAT IF THEY MAKE A LOGICAL EXPLANATION THAT WE WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME, AND THEN WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AT THAT POINT THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, GOOD JOB, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BUT I THINK WE STILL OWE IT TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO SPENT THEIR TIME TO COME IN HERE TO GIVE THEM A REASON.

YEAH, TO SHOW THEM THAT ONE THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET LOST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LOST FOR THREE YEARS NOW.

OKAY I YIELD OKAY. SO I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO HAVE US BE CC'D ON THE WORK.

LIKE WHATEVER THEY SUBMIT TO THAT COMMISSION, IF THEY COULD JUST SEND YOU A COPY.

IT'S NOT DUPLICATE WORK, IT'S JUST THIS. BUT ALSO WE WOULD I'LL HAVE A SEPARATE MOTION FOR.

SO THAT'S MOTION ONE. CAN I GET A REAL QUICK I HAVE A COMMENT.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I ALSO CLEARLY WITH MR. MUELLER COMING HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL. THE COMMUNITY VIEWS THIS COMMISSION AS HAVING RESPONSIBILITY AROUND TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. SO WHILE PUBLIC WORKS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOLUTIONS, THEY'RE LOOKING TO US FOR THE ANSWERS AND TO HELP DRIVE THOSE ANSWERS.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.

I'M RELATIVELY NEW HERE, BUT MAYBE MAKING A REFERRAL TO COUNCIL OR ASKING COUNCIL TO CREATE SOME SORT OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MADE UP OF PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME CROSSOVER, AND IT WOULD ALSO HONOR AND RESPECT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR HOWEVER LONG THREE YEARS.

AND THAT WAY, BOTH COMMISSIONS ARE TAKING PART IN.

THE DISCUSSION CAN RELAY THE INFORMATION BACK TO THEIR OWN COMMISSIONS, AND IT'S NOT DUPLICATIVE AND REDUNDANT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THAT WAY YOU'RE SEEING IT NOT JUST FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT JUST FROM PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM BOTH SIDES. SO THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

ALL RIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE THREE MOTIONS.

ONE, I THINK IT'S EVERGREEN BECAUSE NO MATTER THE OUTCOME OF THE OTHER TWO IF WE'RE GETTING CC'D.

SO THAT'S MOTION NUMBER ONE THAT WE GET JUST COPIED ON THE WORK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH.

I CAN LIKE ASK THEM TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T MIND JUST DOING IT MYSELF SHARING ALL THAT.

THAT'S FINE EITHER WAY. SO BECAUSE WE WANT THAT TO BE AN EVERGREEN.

SO THAT'S A MOTION. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN'T ASK WHO.

I MISSED SOMETHING HERE. I GIVE THE COMMISSION.

THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A MOTION TO LIKE, DIRECT STAFF.

AND IT'S NOT DIRECTING STAFF. IT'S JUST HAVING HIM.

I SEE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT, AND I CAN JUST GIVE IT TO YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY. ABSOLUTELY. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES JOYFULLY.

COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WITHOUT A FORMALIZED RECOMMENDATION, A MORE DIRECT APPROACH AS TO WHAT WE REQUIRE AND REQUESTING SO THAT WE'RE VERY DIRECT TO THAT.

SO THERE'S NO DOUBT IN ANYBODY'S MIND THAT WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND THAT WE GET BACK WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IN WRITING.

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I CAN'T DO THIS. AND NOW, NINE MONTHS DOWN THE LINE, WE SUDDENLY I'M FINDING THAT THE IDEA THAT POSSIBLY LET'S KICK THE CAN FAR ENOUGH UNTIL WE KICK IT INTO THE WEEDS AND IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. I BELIEVE THAT A MORE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS A MORE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CODIFIED APPROACH TO WHAT WE HAVE SO THAT THERE'S A PAPER TRAIL.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY GIVES US BACK SOMETHING, THERE'S A NAME ON IT THAT SAYS, I DID THIS, THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION AND SUCH, SO THAT IF THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO THE HIGHER UPS, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE SOMEONE SAYS SOMEONE HIGH UP SAID THIS, WELL, WHO HIGH UP AND HOW HIGH UP IS IT? I DON'T THINK THAT WE BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING SHOULD BE LOST IN THIS.

THAT CONCERNS ME VERY MUCH SO. AND THE OTHER SIDE TO THIS.

IT DOESN'T PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF ANYTHING.

YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE? I'LL FILL THE REQUEST FOR YOU.

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IF WE MADE IT A RECURRING K.1 FOR YOU? OR JUST LIKE, A REQUEST, LIKE. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT.

I CAN EMAIL THEM AND SAY. THAT'S WHAT ALL K.1 ARE.

THEY VOTED TO ORDER YOU TO DO THIS. ALL OF YOUR K.1 WOULD BE.

THAT'S NOT IN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION. YES, IT IS.

TO ORDER CITY STAFF TO DO THINGS. MAY I CONTINUE, SIR? YES. SO IF YOU GUYS MADE A MOTION TO, LIKE, REQUEST THE INFORMATION, THEN THAT SEEMS TOTALLY ALONG THE.

WELL, THEN I THINK WE GO BACK TO THE PURVIEW.

IT'S ALSO PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. BUT THAT'S OTHER AGENDAS AND AGENDA PACKETS GET POSTED BEFORE THEIR MEETINGS AND STUFF.

JUST TRAFFIC ENGINEERING WON'T RETURN TO THIS MEETING TO PURSUE THIS MATTER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO. WE ARE SAYING LIKE, CAN WE GET.

THEY'RE DOING IT IN THAT COMMISSION? CAN WE GET THEN JUST A COPY OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND.

YEAH. AND SO I'M SAYING WE'LL ADD IT TO YOUR K.1 WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT YOU DO, LIKE K.1 IS YOU SAY OH I'M GOING TO ASK LILA OMURA. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL AGENDA ITEM BUT IT'S A K.1 FOR YOU AND IT'S OUR SORT OF TRACK OF HERE'S WHAT KYLE IS ASKING FOR.

HERE'S WHAT KYLE IS CHASING DOWN. SO IT WOULD BE A ROLLING ITEM ON YOUR K.1, I THINK.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A HYBRID. BUT I GET YOUR POINT THOUGH.

BUT I DO HAVE ONE MORE POINT WITH THAT. YES, I'M VERY CONCERNED AND I'M TRYING TO BE.

AND YOU'RE DOING VERY WELL. I'M DOING VERY WELL [LAUGHTER] IN THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND HOW CHAIN OF COMMAND WORKS.

OKAY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW BEING TOLD HOW STAFF IS NOT GOING TO DO THIS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, IF THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE IN SPEAKING TO SEVERAL COUNCIL PEOPLE, THEY'RE LIKE SAYING, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? WE'RE SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET, BUT THEY WANT. WELL, THEN TELL US WHEN THEY'RE NOT WHEN THEY'RE NOT ASSISTING YOU. SO IF, I WOULD TRULY HATE TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, AGAIN, THE FORMALIZED CHAIN OF COMMAND EACH AND EVERY TIME SAYING, OKAY, WE CANNOT ORDER STAFF TO DO ANYTHING. HOWEVER, WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO ORDER STAFF TO DO THINGS.

SO IF WE HAVE TO, NOW THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

IT WORKS THAT WAY. WELL, ANY MORE SO THAN IF COUNCIL TOLD THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO TELL YOU YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S HOW CHAIN OF COMMAND WORKS. YEAH. THEY DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER . THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. OKAY. SO? SO THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COME BACK IN, THEN WHO DO THEY WORK FOR? US. US. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO TELL US THEY'RE NOT DOING THIS, THEN LET THE COUNCIL TELL US. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT CAN TELL US WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN LEGALLY ASK FOR THAT STUFF.

SO I JUST, I THINK I KNOW WHAT INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND I'M WILLING TO JUST, LIKE, GIVE IT TO YOU ANYTIME YOU WANT. HE'S OUR PERSON.

OH, AND, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS PAPER TRAIL FOR THAT.

LIKE, THIS IS LIKE A RECORDED LIKE MEETING. YOUR OBJECTIONS ARE NOTED.

SO LET'S AND YOU ARE. I CAN EMAIL YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU WANT.

RIGHT. THERE IS NO PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT HEAR ME LIKE DISMISSING ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I'M GOING TO TAKE A PAGE OUT OF YOUR BOOK. IF YOU REMEMBER, TWO MEETINGS AGO, I WANTED TO LIKE, WRITE A DEMAND LETTER SAYING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND YOU CALMED ME DOWN BY SAYING, I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE.

YES YOU DID. AND YOU SAID, WHY DON'T WE SEND WORD THROUGH KYLE AND HAVE HIM ASK.

AND HE DID. AND LOOK WHO SHOWED UP. SO I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO THE SAME THING BY SAYING, HEY, LET'S WORK THROUGH KYLE AND LET HIM GET.

AND IF THERE IS ANY MEETING WHERE WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT THE.

THEN WE HAVE THIS HIGH GROUND TO SAY, HEY, WE TRIED IT YOUR WAY.

NOW WE NEED TO DO IT. AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT'S NOTED THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. BECAUSE 100% IT IS. THE OTHER ISSUES THAT THAT ARE BEING LOST.

ALL RIGHT 100%. OKAY. SO MOTION IS WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO K.1.

SO I'LL BRING THE MOTION UP LATER. BUT FOR THE MOMENT MY MOUSE STOPPED WORKING.

SO I.4 ACTUALLY LET ME PAUSE, I'M ON I.3 STILL, I'M SORRY.

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SORRY. OKAY. WHATEVER REQUEST WE MIGHT HAVE OR IDEAS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL.

IT'S BEEN SAID THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ANYTHING, THAT WE'RE NOT BRINGING THINGS TO THEM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THINGS AND THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THEM, AND WE NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE ON SOME MATTERS.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULD PUT OUR REQUESTS IN WRITING.

BUT I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT ALONG THERE THAT WE NEED THEM TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THINGS AND WE ARE NEEDING ASSISTANCE ON THEM SO WE CAN GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED.

COOL. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I THINK WE HAVE TWO NOW.

WE HAD THREE. WE HAD THREE. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TWO IS GOING TO LET US FOR A MOMENT.

RIGHT. SO MOTION ONE I'LL WAIT FOR K.1 . BUT IT'LL BE FOR TO ADD IT TO AND YOUR MOTION.

SO MAKE YOURS I'M SORRY NOT MAKE YOURS. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

YEAH, I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP PHRASING IT. OKAY, BUT IT'S MAKING A MOTION TO COUNCIL TO CREATE.

WOULD IT BE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE? MADE OF MEMBERS OF PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, AND THAT'S WHO ENGINEERING AND WHOEVER ELSE IS INTENDING TO PRESENT TO PUBLIC WORKS WOULD THEN PRESENT TO THEM INSTEAD.

THAT WAY, BOTH COMMISSIONS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A PUBLIC WORKS ISSUE, IT'S ALSO VERY MUCH A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. SOUNDS GOOD.

DO YOU WANT ME TO AUTHOR THAT FOR YOU? YES, PLEASE.

BUT IF YOU NEED IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO HELP. BUT.

YES, IF YOU CAN. WHAT? DID YOU REFER TO THE GROUP AS?.

AN ADVISORY? MAYBE IT'S A JOINT COMMITTEE. A JOINT COMMITTEE? YEAH. A JOINT COMMITTEE? YEAH, SUBCOMMITTEE. IT'S GOING TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE. A JOINT SUBCOMMITTEE.

PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC WORKS. CORRECT, CORRECT.

WELL, I HAVE THAT ALL DOWN. AND NOW YOU GUYS CAN VOTE AND STUFF.

I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

AYE. COMMISSIONER GAUL. ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

AYE. COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. AYE. COMMISSIONER SKIBA.

YES. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. AYE. SO MOVED. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ONLINE OR. NO. AND NO ECOMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN PROCEED. ALL RIGHT.

I.4 MR. ESCONTRIAS. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IN I.4 THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE I GUESS A GREATER REVIEW OF THAT AND I WOULD OPEN THAT UP TO DISCUSSION TO THOSE WHO HAD QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR ADVISORY ACTION ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE PARTICULAR REASON AS TO WHY WE TABLED IT.

I WOULD YIELD TO THAT. OKAY. YES, WE CONTINUED IT.

YES. YES. CORRECT. THERE WERE QUESTIONS OR I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

OKAY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES, SIR. ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE UP THE ADVISORY ACTION? I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY WRITTEN THAT UP ALREADY AND WAS SUBMITTED.

OH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS SUBMITTED. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS SUBMITTED. IT WAS AT THE LAST, LAST MEETING YOU SUBMITTED TO US.

THAT'S THE COUNCIL. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT.

NO NO NO NO NO. [LAUGHTER] OKAY, OKAY. YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. IT WAS SUBMITTED AS A DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, FOR THAT PARTICULAR.

AND I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT ONCE, OR I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT IT WOULD BE IF IT'S ACCEPTED THAT IT WOULD ANOTHER LOOK SEE, ESPECIALLY BY THE CITY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE, DETERMINE ON THE WORDING OF HOW IT SHOULD GO AND WHETHER OR NOT. BUT I THINK A DRAFT FOR THAT FOR CONSIDERATION WAS SUBMITTED WHEN WE FIRST INITIALLY SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST. SURE.

ANY COMMENT BEFORE I GO IN ORDER? ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SKIBA ANY FEEDBACK ON HIS DRAFT? ANY FEEDBACK ON HIS DRAFT? OR ON THE DRAFT? NO, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DRAFT, BUT I'M DEFINITELY ALL FOR THIS THING.

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NOTHING. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. I THINK IT'S FINE.

AS SUBMITTED. YEAH. AGREED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

SO LET'S MAKE A, I DID. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD.

SO LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO. SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED TO HAVE THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE ADVISORY ACTION JUST CIRCULATED ONE MORE TIME. WITH THE DOCUMENT YOU HAD ON THE FIRST MEETING THAT THEY DISCUSSED THIS? YES. OKAY. I JUST NEED SOMEONE TO SEND THAT TO ME.

THAT'S RIGHT. CAN YOU SEND THAT TO ME? I WAS SENT TO YOU ALREADY.

RESEND IT? YES. MAILED IT TO ME? YES, SIR. OH, CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME AGAIN? SO IT'S ON TOP OF IT THEN. CAN YOU SEND IT TO HIM AGAIN? SO IT'S ON TOP OF HIS. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT.

THAT ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. AS IS, THOUGH. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT SUBMITTED TO THEM.

OKAY. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS TO WHAT I REQUEST.

ASSUMING THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE WHAT IT'S LIKE.

IT'S MOTION IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT. BUT YES, YOU WANT TO MISS ANYTHING SO I DO.

YEAH. SO MOTION IS FOR KYLE TO, I'M SORRY, OFFICER LOFSTROM, TO CIRCULATE THE DRAFT TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, AND WE HAVE UNTIL WEDNESDAY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL EDITS.

IF NO EDITS, HE WILL SUBMIT IT. OKAY. MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHO WOULD EDIT IT? OH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S. JUST IF WE HAVE AND IT WOULD JUST BE A REFRESH. I THINK IT'S IT'S BEEN A MONTH.

YOU SHARED IT AS A GOOGLE DOC AND I COULDN'T GET IN.

OKAY. I'LL SEND YOU AS A WORD. LIKE A WORD, DOC? YES, SIR. OKAY. AWESOME, AWESOME. SO I WOULD THEN SUBMIT IT AS A DRAFT.

YES. AND THEN AND THEN I THINK IN THE EDITS ARE MORE AGAIN.

BECAUSE IF THERE'S AN EDIT, THEN WE WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO GET IT BACK AND THEN CAUSE FOR DISCUSSION WHICH, IF WE TRY TO DO THAT VIA EMAIL, WOULD THEN BE A BROWN VIOLATION.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEN I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THIS.

SENDING THE DRAFT OUT, ALLOWING EVERYBODY TO READ THE DRAFT. AND THEN IF THE NEXT MEETING, IF THEY THEY CONCUR WITH IT, THEN WE SEND IT OFF.

I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

YEAH, I SECOND THAT. WELL, I CAN ATTACH IT TO, IF I GET A HARD COPY, I CAN ATTACH IT IN HERE SO YOU CAN REVIEW IT IN REAL TIME.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE LIKE FIRST READING AND THEN SECOND. YES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST SENDING OFF A FIRST DRAFT, THERE'S ALSO AN ADDENDA TO THAT CONCERNING POINTS AND AUTHORITIES AS TO OTHER PLACES OF CITIES WHO HAVE VERY SIMILAR ORDINANCES AS WELL AS WHAT THE LAW GENERALLY DOES READ IN THOSE PARTICULAR.

AND THEN ALSO ANY OTHER TYPE OF, OF ANECDOTES, IF YOU WILL.

SO LET ME SAY THIS. MAKE YOUR MOTION, SIR. WELL, I THINK DID YOU HAVE A CONCERN OR COMMENT? MY ONLY CONCERN, AND I'M FINE WITH PUSHING THIS OFF TO ANOTHER MEETING, IS THAT THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE HAD TABLED THIS TO THIS TIME WAS FOR EVERYBODY HERE TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE DRAFT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT.

HENCE WHY IT'S CALLED DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ADVISORY ACTION.

SO MY ONLY COMMENT TO THE GROUP IS THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF PEOPLE COULD REALLY TAKE THE TIME TO READ THESE DRAFTS BECAUSE I'D LOVE THAT WE'D BE MORE ACTION ORIENTED RATHER THAN CONTINUOUSLY TABLING AND TABLING AND TABLING, BECAUSE NO ONE TOOK THE TIME TO READ THE DRAFT AND IT JUST GETS MOVED DOWN THE LINE. SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. I'M FINE WITH POSTPONING IT IF PEOPLE HAVEN'T REALLY READ IT, BUT I JUST ASK EVERYONE TO SHOW THAT SAME RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY.

REGARDLESS OF YOU KNOW, WHOSE TOPIC OR ETC. THAT IT IS.

BUT THAT'S IT. AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING IS WE'RE TRYING TO INFORMALLY DO WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES.

SO SOMETHING WILL COME UP AND THEY'LL HAVE A FIRST READ.

SO THAT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO BECAUSE REMEMBER WE MISSED LAST MONTH.

AND THEN THEY DO A SECOND READ BEFORE IT DOES THE WHOLE THING.

SO WE'RE THAT'S MORE WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THAT.

OH I THOUGHT BECAUSE I LITERALLY SAID THOSE WORDS.

WE'RE DOING A FIRST READ AND THE SECOND. SO THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING DIFFERENTLY THEN. YEAH, I WOULD.

I AGREE WITH HER. HOWEVER, I HESITATE TO PUSH IT OUT THERE AS I'M MAKING SOME ATTEMPT TO WORK WITH THIS. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, IT DOES. I AM A BIT DISMAYED THAT ONE, WE WERE NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IF IT WAS A GOOGLE IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE CONCERNING DOWNLOADING IT, THAT I WAS NOT ADVISED OF SUCH AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE HANDLED THIS 2 OR 3 MONTHS AGO.

BU I'M, I DID SEND YOU FOLLOW UP EMAILS ASKING FOR A PDF THAT YOU DIDN'T.

OKAY. AND IF THERE'S NO RESPONSE OKAY. WE'LL SEE.

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I DO. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK WE WERE THINKING SEPARATELY.

OKAY. YEAH, I WAS YEAH, I WAS MORE THINKING, LIKE, WE'RE SORT OF LIKE, FOLLOWING PROTOCOL, LIKE YOU READ AND THEN. AND THEN ALSO THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WE MISSED LAST MONTH.

SO LIKE I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PUSHING IT DOWN THE LINE.

THAT'S WHY I'M NOT PUSHING BACK BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU. LIKE LET'S GET SOME STUFF GOING ON.

I 100% AGREE. YEAH. SO ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL SEE IT NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE CONTINUING IT. WE'RE NOT POSTPONING IT.

WE'RE CONTINUING AND NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH. SO YOUR MOTION IS CONTINUE.

I.4 TO OUR NEXT MEETING, AND IT WILL NOT WHERE WE WILL BE DIRECTING OUR.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BASIS TO, FOR PEOPLE TO TO REVIEW THE VERBIAGE OF THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE AGENDA WITH THAT? CORRECT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING THAT PART. IT'S ALREADY THERE. I'M JUST SAYING YES, BUT YOU'RE. JUST THE VERBIAGE OF HOW WE WANT TO PUT IT THROUGH. AND THAT'S ALL EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S 5%, 30% OF LOST DOG.

IT'S JUST HOW ARE WE PRESENTING IT TO THE COUNCIL? CORRECT. THAT'S OUR DISCUSSION. YES. OKAY. SO MY MOTION THEN IS THAT WE WE CONTINUE THIS I.4 UNTIL NEXT MONTH SO THAT GIVE FOR SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE REVIEW OF THE VERBIAGE OF THE ORDINANCE AS WE WILL PRESENT IT TO AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SECOND. ROLL CALL. I CAN DO THAT ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. J.! DISCUSSION OF RECENT EVENTS IN THE

[J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

GOOD EVENING.

I WAS RECENTLY HIRED AT THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS THE NEW QUALITY OF LIFE PROSECUTOR AND JOY SENT ME HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND MEET THIS COMMISSION. I AM A FORMER LOS ANGELES COUNTY DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

I WAS AT THAT OFFICE FOR NEARLY A DECADE AND THEN WAS IN PRIVATE PRACTICE.

MY FAMILY MOVED AWAY DURING THE PANDEMIC TO MINNESOTA TO BE CLOSER TO FAMILY.

OUR KIDS ATTENDED SCHOOL IN PERSON. I ALSO GOT MY SHORT CALL SUBSTITUTE TEACHING LICENSE WHILE I WAS THERE, AND TAUGHT SCHOOL FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. UPON RETURNING TO CALIFORNIA THIS POSITION OPENED UP AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE ON BOARD. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT ME.

I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM TO BRING UP TO ALL OF YOU.

I'M VERY NEW. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. I CAN ALMOST ASSURE YOU I DO NOT HAVE PROBABLY THE ANSWERS TO TO GIVE YOU TONIGHT.

THAT'S JUST BEING VERY FRANK BECAUSE OF MY NEWNESS IN THIS ROLE.

BUT I AM HAPPY TO FIELD THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND BRING THEM BACK TO JOY AND THE TEAM AT THE CITY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH I PLAN TO ATTEND AS WELL.

WE LOVE YOU ALREADY. COMMISSIONER. WELCOME. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARMICHAEL.

WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS AND WE'LL GO DOWN THE ROW.

WE WISH YOU LUCK. YOU'RE WELCOME. I WOULD KIND OF INDICATE TO YOU, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT, MAYBE DOWN THE DIRECTION OF THE ROAD THAT I WOULD TRAVEL.

MY CONCERN AND QUESTIONS WOULD BE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE SUBMITTED FOR FOR FILING, NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FILED. OKAY.

AND THEN DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT IS FILED BY YOU OR WHAT IS OUR DIRECT FILES.

OKAY. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE NUMBER CAME UP. A CERTAIN NUMBER CAME UP DURING A MEETING OF X AMOUNT OF CASES.

YET THERE WAS NOT SEPARATED BETWEEN WHAT WAS DIRECT FILED, WHICH DOES NOT GENERALLY REQUIRE OVERSIGHT AS MUCH SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A TICKET OF SOME SORT INFRACTION OR A MISDEMEANOR RATHER, AS OPPOSED TO ONE THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO TO REVIEW AND FILE OR GIVE OR REJECT OR

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THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT, BUT WELCOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING BY. NICE TO MEET YOU.

NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

NO, I'M JUST DELIGHTED THAT FINALLY WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION MEETING, BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE THAT MANY YEARS BEFORE, AND MANY TIMES ISSUES COME UP AND WE NEED THIS SUPPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE.

AND NOW WE HAVE IT. THANK YOU. HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLAIR. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WELCOME. I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN THIS ROLE.

AND I THINK MY ONLY QUESTION. AND I CAN PROBABLY DO THIS ON MY OWN RESEARCH, BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR ROLE AND ANOTHER CITY PROSECUTOR ROLE AND THE NUANCE OF WHERE YOUR FOCUS IS AS OPPOSED TO THEIRS.

SURE. I THINK I CAN ADDRESS THAT IF SO I FALL UNDER THE PROSECUTION SIDE THERE.

THE CITY ATTORNEY , MELANIE CHAVIRA, IS THE CITY PROSECUTOR.

SHE'S APPOINTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY . AND UNDERNEATH MISS CHAVIRA, THERE ARE TWO DEPUTY SENIOR DEPUTY CITY PROSECUTORS THAT STAFF THE COURT ROOMS AT THE TORRANCE COURTHOUSE IN DEPARTMENT THREE. THEY HANDLE ALL OF THE ARRAIGNMENTS IN DEPARTMENT TWO.

THOSE ARE THE PRE TRIALS. THOSE THAT WOULD BE SUZANNE DELGIN AND SYDNE MICHEL.

I ALSO AM BACK UP FOR THOSE PROSECUTORS WHEN THERE'S VACATIONS OR SOMEONE'S IN TRIAL.

SO I WILL BE BACK UP PROSECUTOR, TO HANDLE COURTROOM ASSIGNMENTS AS NEEDED.

SPECIFICALLY, THOUGH, I WAS HIRED AS THE QUALITY OF LIFE PROSECUTOR, WHICH WAS THE ROLE THAT JOY FORD HAD PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY 'S OFFICE. SO I AM STEPPING IN TO HANDLE SPECIFIC CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, I HANDLE AND I DON'T HANDLE HOMELESS COURT NECESSARILY.

THAT'S BEING CONTRACTED OUT BY A FORMER REDONDO BEACH CITY PROSECUTOR, ANA PAPADAKIS.

BUT I, I AM BEING TRAINED IN THAT REGARD. I ALSO AM HANDLING A LOT OF THE FUNDING AND GRANTS THAT HELP SUPPORT THE HOUSING COURT AND WORKING WITH I WOULD SAY COMPLAINTS COMING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONSTITUENTS, HANDLING SHORT TERM AIRBNB ISSUES, OTHER ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS. SO IT'S SORT OF A HYBRID ROLE AS A PROSECUTOR, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE ASPECTS THAT REDONDO BEACH TAKES VERY SERIOUSLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. NO, COMMISSIONER GAUL.

WELL. HELLO THERE. AND QUALITY OF LIFE PROSECUTOR JOHNSON, ARE YOU ORIGINALLY FROM MINNESOTA? ORIGINALLY FROM MINNESOTA. IT'S BEEN A REALLY TOUGH WEEKEND.

I'VE DONE BUSINESS TRIPS TO MINNESOTA 20 TIMES.

AND I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE CONNECTED TO THE SPEAKER.

RELATED TO THE SPEAKER. AND MY CONDOLENCES. WHAT A TOUGH WEEKEND.

AND WHAT A GREAT INTERVENTION BY THE POLICE CHIEF OF BROOKLYN PARK.

TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE AS BEST THEY COULD.

IT WAS HORRIBLE. WITH REGARD TO THE AIRBNB MANAGEMENT, CAN YOU GIVE ADVICE TO THE RESIDENTS LISTENING IN TO THIS MEETING ON THE PROCESS TO IDENTIFY AND REPORT THAT TO THE CITY? SURE. SO AIRBNB VIOLATIONS ARE ON A REPORT BASIS.

SO IF THERE IS A OR WHAT IS PERCEIVED AS A VIOLATION THAT HAS TO BE REPORTED.

CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT GOING OUT AND ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR VIOLATIONS.

THEY NEED TO BE REPORTED. BUT IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE, IT IS A SOMEWHAT

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THERE HAS TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TO HAVE THAT.

AN ACTUAL TRANSACTION HAS TAKEN PLACE, MONEY HAS BEEN EXCHANGED, AND THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF INVESTIGATION WITH THE PERSON WHO IS OCCUPYING THE AIRBNB TO CONFIRM THAT MONEY AND THE TRANSACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN PLACE. AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE OWNER OR THE PERSON THAT HAS LISTED THE THE HOUSE ON THE AIRBNB WEBSITE. SO REDONDO HAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL STATUTES THAT PROHIBIT ANY SORT OF SHORT TERM RENTAL LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

SO MAYBE I CAN ASK OFFLINE LATER, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE ONCE YOU HAVE A TIP IN PLACE THAT YOU'LL HAVE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL, FROM TIME TO TIME, INVESTIGATE ON THEIR OWN CERTAIN POTENTIAL LOCATIONS TO SEE IF TRANSACTIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE, SAY, SIX MONTHS AFTER THE INITIAL TIP.

THAT'S CORRECT. CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL FOLLOW UP ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

GREAT I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. WELCOME ABOARD. I THINK THAT MELANIE CHAVIRA AND JOY FORD ARE EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH. IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT THE ASK.

AND THERE WAS A GOOD LINE IN A MOVIE SOMEWHERE ABOUT ASKING NICELY, BUT I WISH YOU A GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

LIKEWISE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, J.1 IS CONCLUDED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. J.2. OFFICER LOFSTROM.

HEY, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS KYLE. I'M YOUR COMMUNITY BASED OFFICER.

NICE TO MEET YOU, KYLE. THANKS. OBVIOUSLY, IN ADDITION TO THE PART ONE RECAP AND THE OTHER DOCUMENTS YOU SEE THERE WE ARE GEARING UP FOR 4TH OF JULY, WHICH HAS THE FIREWORKS SHOW AND THE FIVE K IN THE MORNING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING AND OPERATION THAT GOES INTO THAT. TONS OF STAFFING HEAVY STAFFING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU MAY IMAGINE. AND THEN I WILL GET RIGHT INTO OUR COMMUNITY POLICING REPORT.

I JUST HAD IT PULLED UP, AND THEN I ACCIDENTALLY WENT TO THE TOP RECENT EVENTS.

WE HAD A RUN HIDE FIGHT TRAINING AT OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDER MEETING, COFFEE WITH A COP AT MICHAEL'S CAFE UP AT ARTESIA.

HOW'D THAT GO? WE DID THAT JOINT ALSO WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TORCH RUN, WHICH WAS THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.

TO RAISE MONEY FOR SOCAL SPECIAL OLYMPICS. AND WE RAISED, LAST I CHECKED, WAS ALMOST $1,900 THIS YEAR.

NOT QUITE AS GOOD AS LAST YEAR, BUT STILL COMMENDABLE.

AND IN SUPPORT OF A GREAT CAUSE IN THOSE ATHLETES.

WE HAD THE REDONDO HIGH GRADUATION ON JUNE 12TH, WHICH ALSO INVOLVES YOU KNOW, AN OPERATIONS PLAN TO KEEP THE STUDENTS SAFE DURING A LARGE EVENT LIKE THAT. THAT WENT VERY WELL. OUR TEENS IN POLICING CLASS SUMMER CLASS, HAS THEIR OPENING SESSION ON WEDNESDAY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER COFFEE WITH A COP PLANNED FOR JUNE 26TH AT EINSTEIN BAGELS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

NICE. UCLA BLOOD DRIVE. JULY 16TH. YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS FROM ME.

I'M SHOOTING FOR 100 DONATIONS, AND I JUST NEED A FEW MORE SIGNUPS TO GET THERE.

SO IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE THAT DAY, PLEASE SAVE THREE LIVES.

THREE LIVES YOU COULD SAVE, INFANT BABY LIVES.

NO, NOT SPECIFICALLY INFANT BABIES, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE I LIKE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO YOU COULD BE SAVING.

SOME OF US DO SAVE THEM. SEE? OH, YOU HAVE THE.

YOU HAVE CERTAIN? YEP. WE HAVE A A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MEETING, THAT'S AN ONGOING GROUP.

THEY HAVE FAIRLY REGULAR MEETINGS IN AREA TWO.

THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY POLICE CANINE ASSOCIATION IS AGAIN HOSTING THEIR CANINE SHOW IN REDONDO BEACH OVER AT THE SEAHAWK BOWL. THAT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS LA COUNTY CANINE UNITS.

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SATURDAY IS JUST BETTER FOR PARTIES AT THE REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

AND IN AUGUST, WE WILL ALSO BE THE ONSET OF CITIZENS ACADEMY CLASS NUMBER 52.

ON TO OUR VOLUNTEER POLICING REPORT. YEAR TO DATE HOURS OF SERVICE 1594, AND PATROL CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR UP TO 4300 YEAR TO DATE. AND THAT CONCLUDES THIS SEGMENT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. OH, I HAD A QUESTION.

WHEN IS THE NEXT RUN HIDE FIGHT? THAT IS ON MY TO DO LIST.

I'VE JUST HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THE TIME TO DO AND PLAN IT.

LIKE I DO KEEP MYSELF FAIRLY BUSY. BUT IT IS NAGGING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER THINGS, TO GET ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE DONE. SO IT WILL BE TBD.

BASED ON MY LIFE IN GENERAL, BUT IT'S THERE. IT'S SITTING THERE WAITING TO COME TO THE FOREFRONT.

ALL RIGHT, SKIP TO COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. COMMISSIONER.

KLAINBAUM. COMMISSIONER. BLAIR. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME FOR THIS OR NOT, SO I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S NOT. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME.

IS THIS A, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO PREPARE FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS THAT'S COMING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE. SO TYPICALLY ASIDE FROM JUST A MASSIVELY LARGER AMOUNT OF STAFFING THAT OCCURS ON THAT DAY ADDITIONAL PATROL UNITS, UNITS THAT ARE THERE FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL ISSUES THAT OCCUR.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO IT THIS YEAR, BUT WE HAVE OFTEN IN THE PAST DEPLOYED SPECIFIC FIREWORK SUPPRESSION UNIT.

I THINK WE INTEND TO DO SO THIS YEAR AS WELL.

SO THEY'LL BE RESERVED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT TASK, WHICH INCLUDES RESPONDING TO CALLS.

OBVIOUSLY, LIKE WE GET A LOT OF CALLS AND THEN A COP HAS TO DRIVE THERE AND IT IS A VIOLATION THAT NEEDS TO BE OBSERVED.

AND THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN WITH THE TOOLS THEY HAVE.

AND THE AVAILABILITY THAT THE LAW ALLOWS US TO TAKE IT A CERTAIN DISTANCE.

BUT THAT'S HOW WE RESPOND IS ESSENTIALLY WE SET UP UNITS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT DAY TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS ANY, BASICALLY ANYWHERE THEY CAN. BUT WE KNOW CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARILY HOTTER THAN OTHERS IN THAT SENSE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD DO TO PROVIDE TIPS FOR THE CITIZENS ON HOW TO REPORT THESE EFFECTIVELY? I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, RIGHT? I'VE CALLED AND WHEN I LITERALLY WITNESSED SOMEBODY DOING IT THE PERSON LEFT THE RESIDENCE AND THEN CONTINUED TO LIE WHEN APPROACHED BY THE POLICE OFFICERS. YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S LIMITATIONS IN THE ENFORCEMENT, JUST LEGALLY WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO AND STAFFING WISE, WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WHERE WE'VE HAD ENFORCEMENT ACTION TAKEN AND CITATIONS WRITTEN AND FIREWORKS CONFISCATED AND THINGS IN THE PAST.

TYPICALLY SOME HAPPENS AT LEAST EVERY YEAR. AND YEAH, THERE THERE COULD BE, YEAH, CONSIDERATION, WE DO OFTEN DISPERSE INFORMATION EVERY YEAR IN THE WEEKS LEADING UP SPECIFICALLY NOTIFICATIONS THAT FIREWORKS ARE ILLEGAL BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

AND THEY INTEND TO DO THINGS BECAUSE THERE ARE NEARBY CITIES THAT HAVE LEGAL FIREWORKS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN HOW TO REPORT THEM AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN CONSEQUENTLY, IF ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS TAKEN? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GAUL, I'LL PASS TO COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

COMMISSIONER WODNICKI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHEN WE COULD EXPECT TO SEE THE CHANGES TO THE CRIME REPORTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO I'M JUST LEAVING THE PART ONE CRIME REPORT IN THERE, AS IS.

AND THEN IN THE MEETING NOTIFICATIONS, I SEND THE LINK DIRECTLY TO THAT PAGE THAT HAS ALL THE CONSISTENTLY UPDATED GRAPHS HOUR BY HOUR.

REALLY DAY BY DAY, SO TO SPEAK. MEETING NOTIFICATION.

CAN YOU CLARIFY? LIKE WHEN I SEND THE EMAIL. CORRECT .

EMAIL I SENT INCLUDES THAT LINK AND THOSE WERE UPDATED.

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THEY DID HAVE A GLITCH THAT WAS MAKING SOME OF THEM NOT APPEAR ON THE WEBSITE.

BUT IT'S BACK UP. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ONLINE? NEGATIVE. AND THEN. AND NO ECOMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. J.4 . JUVENILE DELINQUENT, DISCUSSION ON JUVENILE DELINQUENCY.

COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM, WE'LL LET YOU LEAD ON THAT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS JUST EXPERIENCES OF WHAT I'VE OBSERVED.

THERE'S, PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY SOME PARENTS ARE BETTER AT BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE DOING AND OTHERS ARE NOT SO, DON'T DO SO WELL. AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY OCCASIONALLY THERE'S GROUPS OF YOUTHS, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS, LATE AT NIGHT. AND THEN NOW THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREETS AND THEY'RE MOBILE BECAUSE THEY HAVE E-BIKES AND THEY CAUSE DISTURBANCES. THEY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO THE SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE THEY GET INJURED ON E-BIKES IN THE STREET DOING UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES. AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD BRING ATTENTION TO THIS AND IMPROVE THE SITUATION, PERHAPS EDUCATING THE PARENTS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY SHOULD KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS AND LATE AT NIGHT.

AND PERHAPS THERE COULD BE A MORE VISIBLE POLICE PRESENCE IN THE CITY TO DETER THESE GROUPS OF YOUTHS FROM TRAVELING ABOUT CAUSING TROUBLE IN THE CITY, WHEN THERE SHOULD BE AT HOME OR DOING SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.

IF THEY HAVE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE GETTING IN TROUBLE WITH THE OUT IN THE STREETS LATE AT NIGHT.

AND JUST THE, WHAT I'VE OBSERVED AND MY IDEA OF HOW TO HELP IMPROVE THE PROBLEM.

COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. WELL, I KNOW THAT THEY'VE HAD ALL THESE KIDS.

FIRST, THEY STARTED OFF WITH THEM BEING DOWN BY THE STRAND, HARASSING OTHER PEOPLE WITH BIKES OR PEDESTRIANS AND SENIORS AND THAT.

AND THEN YOU SEE THEM IN KIND OF LIKE LITTLE MOBS RUNNING AROUND, YOU KNOW, RACING THROUGH LIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS.

I'VE SEEN THEM UP ON RIPLEY AND SO MANY OTHER STREETS.

AND IT'S TRUE. AND NOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD NOW SUDDENLY I'M SEEING THESE LITTLE POCKET BIKES AND THEY'RE RIDING THEM IN THE STREET WITH THE CARS.

THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE LIKE ABOUT THIS BIG AND ABOUT THAT TALL DRIVEN BY TINY KIDS LIKE THAT HIGH OF KIDS, NOT TEENS. AND THEY'RE JUST, WHERE'S THE PARENTS? WHERE'S ANYBODY? NOBODY'S WATCHING THEM. THEY'RE RACING DOWN THE SIDEWALK, RACING EACH OTHER AT LIKE 25, 30 MILES AN HOUR, FLYING AROUND CORNERS. I MEAN, IT'S INSANE REALLY WATCHING THEM.

AND FIRST THEY WERE ON THE SIDEWALK. NOW THEY'RE GOING IN THE STREET. AND WE HAVE BIG SUVS AND TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING WHIZZING UP AND DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM ARTESIA, AND IT'S LIKE, I JUST AM TERRIFIED IF THEY HAVE A SPILL OR EVEN GET HIT BY SOMETHING, THEY COULD EASILY GO UNDER A TRUCK OR A CAR WITH ONE OF THOSE.

IT'S SO TINY. EVEN A BIG MOTORCYCLE CAN GO UNDER A VEHICLE.

BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THERE ARE LITTLE CHILDREN AND IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.

AND THERE'S LIKE MAYBE FOUR OR 5 OR 6 OF THEM TOGETHER.

SOME HAVE E-BIKES, SOME ARE ON SKATEBOARDS. THEY'RE ENCOURAGING THE LITTLER ONES AND THEY'RE CHEERING THEM ON.

I'M LIKE, BOY, IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE ACCIDENTS, YOUR HEAD HITS THAT SIDEWALK OF THAT CURB.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE CRACKING AN EGG. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SOME OF THEM HAVE NO HELMETS ON. IT'S JUST TERRIBLE.

BUT THE SCREAMING, THE HOWLING, THE CURSING, THE BEHAVIORS, IT'S NOT NICE TO SEE THIS.

YOU THINK, WHO'S RAISING THESE PEOPLE? YOU KNOW? WELL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I THINK MY ONLY QUESTION IS JUST REALLY AROUND THE VOLUME THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEES OF JUVENILE VIOLATIONS AND CITATIONS AND WHATNOT.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE'RE SEEING QUITE A FEW BASED ON, I THINK, WHAT A LOT OF OUR EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT LOOKS LIKE.

AND IN THE REPORT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY NECESSARILY TO TELL EITHER.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO TELL? WELL, I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES OR.

COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. SORRY. NO, IT'S JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION.

THAT'S FINE. YES. COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY NECESSARILY GIVE CITATIONS ALL THE TIME.

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I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUT THERE DOING, NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS CITING.

YOU SEE THAT AS WELL. YES. OKAY. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I THINK THE REALLY THE MAYBE THE CRUX OF THE QUESTION IS ARE WE SEEING, WHAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT ARE WE SEEING FOR JUVENILE DELINQUENCY IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, OR ARE WE? AND AGAIN, IN THE REPORT, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY TELL IF THAT'S THE CASE.

SO WE DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION COULD BE THAT THERE'S TONS OF THIS HAPPENING, BUT MAYBE THERE'S NOT OR WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING YOUCAN TAKE BACK? ANYTHING PREPARED? I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING YOU COULD TAKE BACK AND MAYBE AND SEE SPECULATIVELY.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET A SIX MONTH WINDOW OF CITATIONS FOR JUVENILES AND THEN SEE WHAT COMES UP.

AND IF THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF VIOLATIONS, THEN I CAN NARROW DOWN TO LIKE TOP THREE.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY EASY FOR ME TO GET.

WOULD YOU LIKE SOME INPUT, COMMISSIONER? THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES.

COMMISSIONER MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE A JUVENILE DETECTIVE, ONE WHO HANDLES JUVENILE CRIMES DIRECTLY, WHICH IS GENERALLY DIFFERENT FROM SUCH. SO I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE TO KIND OF BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT A LITTLE EASIER.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO AND YOU SAY, HOW MANY KIDS HAVE BEEN CITED THAT MIGHT FALL INTO THE TOTAL REALM OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AS A WHOLE? SO THEREFORE, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T PICK OUT HOW MANY WERE JUVENILE? HOW MANY WERE ADULT? OKAY. THE LIKE WHEN I BROUGHT UP TO THE CITY PROSECUTOR, GENERALLY SOME OF THESE ARE GENERALLY REFERRED TO AS DIRECT FILES TO WHERE THEY'RE, THEY GET ALL THE TICKETS UP, THEY SEND THEM ALL TO THE COURT, AND THE COURT HANDLES THEM THAT WAY.

OKAY. SOME OF THEM ARE ADULTS, SOME ARE JUVENILE AND SUCH. SO I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT JUVENILE CRIME, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THEIR DETECTIVE DIVISION COME IN TO INDICATE WHAT TYPES OF CRIMES THERE ARE.

AND THEN GENERALLY HOW IT WORKS AS FAR AS DIVERSION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THEY'RE GENERALLY REFERRED TO UNDER THE 602 OF THE WIC, WHICH GENERALLY ARE WELFARE CODE THAT THE JUVENILES ARE GENERALLY PROSECUTED UNDER. SO I THINK IF THE REQUEST SHOULD BE DO YOU HAVE A JUVENILE DETECTIVE, THEY COULD HOPEFULLY KIND OF LOOK AT THE TYPES OF CRIMES THAT ARE BEING DIRECTLY AFFECTED AND THOSE THAT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO BECAUSE THERE'S A DIVERSION TYPE ISSUE.

SAY LIKE SOME OF THE BICYCLE STUFF. I KNOW THAT THEY WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT IT SAYING, YEAH, WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HANDLE IT THROUGH THE COURTS.

SO THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES WITH THE QUESTION HAS TO BE, I THINK I BROUGHT THAT UP LAST TIME WAS MORE SPECIFIC.

OTHERWISE IT GETS LOST. DOES THAT ANSWER ANYTHING? YEAH. NO, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL. I THINK OBVIOUSLY STARTING SOMEWHERE IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW.

SO YOU HAVE A JUVENILE DETECTIVE? I THINK WE'LL COUNT ON OUR DETECTIVES ARE ALL KIND OF MULTIPLE.

NO ONE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO JUVENILE. NO ONE THAT'S INDIVIDUALLY ASSIGNED JUVENILE CRIMES ONLY.

ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON HOW THAT'S ABLE TO.

BUT THEN AGAIN THROUGH THE CAD UNIT, THE CRIME ANALYSIS GENERALLY THEY CAN LOOK AT AS TO HOW MANY CASES ARE BEING FILED AS JUVENILE.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN ALSO POINT OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE JUVENILES, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE MISDEMEANORS, WILL GO TO JUVENILE COURT IN WHICH THEY HAVE TO PROSECUTE. THANK YOU.

IT WOULD ALSO, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. IT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY OCCURRED DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO ON BREAK, SUMMER BREAK, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO PLAN TO MAKE ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE ON BREAK WHEN THESE INCIDENCES ARE OCCURRING OR IF THEY'RE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL AT THE TIME.

AGREED. SO I THINK OUR TAKEAWAY IS TO ADD TO KYLE'S K.1, TO HAVE THIS AS A THING TO COME BACK WITH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FORMALLY AN AGENDA ITEM. BUT THEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO.

YEAH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD IT TO YOUR K.1.

BUT I'M NOT CLOSING THIS CONVERSATION. LIKE ARE WE STILL IN DISCUSSION MODE? OH I FORGOT ME. COMMISSIONER GAUL. I THOUGHT YOU DEFERRED.

COMMISSIONER GAUL. COMMISSIONER GAUL HERE. I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS HAVE A GOOD COP, MOSTLY SIDE FOR THE SCHOOLS, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO OVERWHELM THEM WITH RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT TICKETING THEM WOULD BE ONE THING. HAVING THEIR PARENTS COME IN AND TAKE THEIR BIKE BACK AND PAYING A 500 TO $1000 FINE AND HUMILIATE

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I REMEMBER JIM HANNON HAD A NONPROFIT FOR TRAINING BICYCLE SAFETY, AND I REMEMBER HE WAS DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS OR IF IT'S A BUDGETARY REQUIREMENT AND WHATNOT, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY PRETTY IMPORTANT HERE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THOSE IDEAS AND HOPEFULLY IT GETS AGENDIZED.

THANK YOU. ISN'T IT A REQUIRE? COMMISSIONER WODNICKI, IS IT? AND, KYLE, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS. IS IT A REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS AT REDONDO UNION TO TAKE A BIKE SAFETY COURSE? IF THEY'RE RIDING BIKES TO SCHOOL. A SPECULATIVE SUMMARY OF THEIR PROGRAM IS, TO PARK A BIKE ON THE CAMPUS.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE A COURSE, PROVIDE PROOF OF THAT SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION.

AND THEY GET LIKE A STICK OR SOME SORT OF LABEL AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK THE BIKE ON CAMPUS.

AND THEN IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT, THE SCHOOL WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE BIKE OR THE PROPERTY CONFISCATION OR THEY BOOT IT OR, I'M AGAIN, THIS IS A SPECULATIVE SUMMARY.

AND ESSENTIALLY A PARENT COMES DOWN AND SAYS, HAS TO GET IT.

IS IT A COURSE APPROVED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR BY THIS, WHO'S? I BELIEVE THEY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CONTRACTED WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY, AND THEN WE WE HAVE BIKE RODEOS, TOO. AND I THERE IS SOME PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL AND OUR BIKE RODEOS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE INCLUDING THAT PROGRAM OR OUR BIKE RODEO IS PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER SKIBA. YEAH. JEFF, I LOVE ALL YOUR IDEAS THERE.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE ITEM, COMMUNITY SERVICE AS A PUNISHMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET BRAND PARK KIND OF PREPARED A LITTLE BIT FASTER WITH SOME EXTRA SHOVELING.

SO YES, I WOULD THIRD THAT MOTION. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE I SEE IS THAT I THINK KIDS ARE PRETTY CREATIVE.

RIGHT. AND SO WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS THEY JUST LOCK THEM UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM ON CAMPUS.

AND A QUICK SCROLL THROUGH TIKTOK WILL SHOW YOU ALL OF THE KIDS AND HOW PROUD THEY ARE OF THEIR WAYS TO SKIRT AROUND REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THEIR OPINIONS OF MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

SO IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. AND WITH THAT.

AGENDA ITEM K.

[K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THE SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE PROSPECT CORRIDOR.

DO YOU WANT? JUST THAT SUBJECT MATTER OR JUST ANYTHING THAT RUNS THROUGH THE COMMISSION? I THINK WE GET LESS PUSHBACK IF WE SAY ANYTHING THAT GOES TO THE COMMISSION.

SO LET'S FOCUS ON PROSPECT AND THEN WE'LL KEEP AN EYE.

OR DO WE WANT ANYTHING BECAUSE IS EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING.

I THINK IT WAS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SPECIFICALLY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH REGARD TO SAFETY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT ALSO WOULD THEN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT MR. MUELLER HAD. OKAY. AND ENFORCEMENT. YES. OKAY.

TRAFFIC SAFETY UMBRELLA. YES, PLEASE. THAT'S THE MOTION.

SECOND. THIRD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. WELL, THAT'S. AND THEN YOU JUST WANTED SOMETHING ON JUVENILE DELINQUENCY.

SOMEONE JUST WANTED SOMETHING. DID I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON HAVING PARENTS COME AND PICK UP BIKES WITH A $500 FEE.

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YOU. IT SHOULD BE EASY TO GET THAT REPORT. AND YOU WOULD DO A SIX MONTH. COMISSIONER. YEAH.

SORRY. FOR LIKE SIX OR. YOU LET ME KNOW. YEAH.

IS A MOTION NECESSARY TO JUST HAVE YOU ADD THAT INTO OUR REPORT? NO I CAN. IS THAT DO YOU FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE, SIX MONTHS OF JUVENILES.

AND IF IT'S LIKE SUPER HEAVY ON E-BIKE OR SOMETHING, I CAN GO A LITTLE DEEPER AND FIND AN E-BIKE RELATED AND E-BIKE RELATED IF IT'S A GOOD MIX.

I ONLY TO ADD IT TO K.1. I CAN PREPARE SOME DOCUMENTATION.

YOU GUYS CAN REVIEW IT NEXT MEETING AND SEE IF YOU WANT TO DIVE DEEPER SOMEWHERE.

OKAY. WANT TO SEE? SORRY TO INTERRUPT, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI.

WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE A LONGER SPAN THAN SIX MONTHS? I WOULD SAY NO, ONLY FOR THIS REASON. OKAY. THE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS SPANNING DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES.

AND IF WE DO THIS SIX MONTHS, WE'LL GET HALLOWEEN, WE'LL GET CHRISTMAS, RIGHT? WE'LL GET AND WE'LL GET SUMMER. SO I THINK THIS SIX MONTHS SPECIFICALLY WILL GIVE US A NICE CROSS SECTION OF INPUT DATA. HOLIDAY TIMES WHERE KIDS ARE OFF AND TIMES WHERE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL.

SIX MONTHS IS HALLOWEEN AND SUMMER SIX MONTHS? NO. JANUARY. I'M SORRY. JANUARY. SO TEN? I WOULD SAY YOU'D WANT TO DO ONE YEAR.

ONE YEAR? YEAH, THAT'S MY OPINION. NO, IT'S THE MOTION.

IT'S MOTION. IT'S YOUR MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

YES. ARE YOU GOING TO SPECIFIC? I'M SORRY. ARE YOU GOING TO ASK FOR CERTAIN CRIMES? ALL CRIMES, BIKES, TRAFFIC. OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE SAYING JUVENILE.

AND HE'S JUST COMMIT ALL JUVENILE CRIMES THAT ARE REPORTED, OR ALL JUVENILE CRIMES IN WHICH THERE IS AN ARREST.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IT CAN BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, IF THAT'S THE CASE. I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE SHOULD AMEND THE MOTION TO ALAN AS THIS WAS HIS CONCERN. YEAH, AT LEAST FOR HIS INPUT AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM.

I GUESS THE CONCERN IS ONE, THERE'S CRIME THAT NEVER GETS REPORTED.

AND SO YOU COULD HAVE YOU COULD HAVE GROUPS OF JUVENILES DOING UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES, BUT NO ONE'S AWARE OF IT, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS VALID. AND SO YEAH.

BUT IF YOU CAN BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AUTHORITIES SO THEY CAN BE MORE OBSERVANT TO SEE IF IT'S GOING ON, AND THEN YOU COULD COLLECT SOME DATA ON IT, BUT IF IT'S NOT EVEN ON THEIR RADAR MAP OR THEIR LIST TO LOOK FOR, THEN THEY DON'T SEE IT.

SUCH AS DO WE HAVE ANY KIDS THAT ARE THE E-BIKE ISSUE IS ONE.

DO WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE ARRESTED FOR BURGLARY? DO WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE ARRESTED FOR FOR NARCOTICS OR WHATEVER ELSE? SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF SOMETIMES LOOK AT SO THEY KNOW WHERE TO PULL THIS INFORMATION FROM, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE'S AN OPTION ISSUE OR SPIKE OR WHAT I, WHAT I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN USING DATA TO INFORM US.

RIGHT. SO LET'S START WITH A SINGLE ONE YEAR AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME DIRECTION FROM THERE.

SO THE MOTION.

OKAY. AND THEN OFFICER LOFSTROM HAD OFFERED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE WHERE HE SAW THE LARGER ISSUES, AND WE COULD USE THAT DATA FOR. [INAUDIBLE] REPORTED JUVENILE CRIME? YES. I'LL SECOND, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.

YOU SAID ONE YEAR. ONE YEAR IN THE FUTURE OR ONE YEAR IN THE PAST.

ONE YEAR IN THE PAST. WE CAN'T FIND FUTURE. COLLECT DATA THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS.

OKAY? YEAH. SECOND. I ALREADY SECONDED IT. OH, SORRY.

SECOND. SORRY I BEAT YOU ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE. [INAUDIBLE] ME A LITTLE BIT. SORRY. ONE YEAR, DATA ON JUVENILES, ONE YEAR SPAN, ONE YEAR.

LOOK BACK IN THE PAST. YES. FOLLOW UP POST. A FOLLOW UP TO THAT COULD BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY WERE FILED AND HOW MANY WERE JUST WHICH DATA, LET'S START WITH WITH DATA. ONCE WE SYNTHESIZE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK UP ALL LIKE IF OUR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND HOW MANY PROSECUTIONS. YEAH.

I THINK WE START WITH DISPOSITIONS, RATHER LET'S FIND THE SMOKE FIRST.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA WAS JUST SAYING THAT I'M THINKING THAT THEY COULD MAKE SUBSECTIONS OF TYPES OF JUVENILE CRIMES.

NOT JUST ALL. ONE BIG LUMP. YEAH. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S PLANNING TO DO, IS GIVE US THE BREAKDOWN INITIALLY AND THEN FIND THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR US.

AND WE CAN KIND OF FIND TRENDS. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT ONE.

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SNUCK IN POST CONVERSATION, RIGHT? YES WE DID.

WE DID IT. YEAH I KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. YOU STUCK IN THERE? WAIT, I NEED SOME MORE CHIPS AND SALSA. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, EVERYBODY. WITH THAT, I. NO FINAL REFERRAL.

OH, WAIT. DO WE HAVE ANY REFERRALS TO. OH, ARE WE DONE? ARE WE DONE? I'M SORRY. THAT WAS JUST THE DISCUSSION ON JUVENILE DELINQUENCY.

NO, NO, NO, THIS IS THE. WE'RE ON K.1 . OH. I'M SORRY.

WE JUST REFERRED BACK TO THAT. SORRY. I'M SORRY.

I HAVE SOMETHING. OKAY. YES. I'M SORRY. HOLD ON.

YES, OFFICER LOFSTROM. YOU GOOD? I'M READY. OKAY.

OKAY. MRS. WODNICKI. SORRY. YES. MY BAD. I ATTENDED ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE CROSSING GUARD ISSUE AND TALKING.

THEY WERE TALKING OUT LOUD ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN CUT COSTS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT INTERSECTIONS ARE THE SAFEST.

AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT ISSUE FOR US AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, TO MAYBE DO SOME ADVISORY ON.

AND IF WE COULD MAKE A REFERRAL TO THE MOTION TO THE COUNCIL.

I'M STILL LEARNING THE TERMINOLOGY. TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ASSISTANCE FROM US OR TO DO ANY RESEARCH FOR THEM OR TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE.

I THINK IT WOULD TAKE SOMETHING OFF THEIR PLATE. AND IT'S ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY NOW THAT SCHOOL IS OUT.

THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO KIND OF LOOK INTO THE ISSUE.

YEAH. SO OFFICER LOFSTROM I ASK YOU, DO WE MAKE A MOTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD SEND THROUGH YOU? BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, TO GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

I, MY THOUGHT IS I WOULD EMAIL THEM A MEMO THAT SAYS YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTING FOR IF, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S THEIR TOPIC NOW.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, ANY ACTION OR, OR DECISIONS THAT THEY TAKE ON THAT MATTER, REQUEST THAT IT BE SENT THROUGH THIS COMMISSION.

THAT'D BE GREAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S THE MOTION. THAT'S THE MOTION. AND THEN SECOND, ALL THAT.

ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I'M SORRY, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU OFFICER.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ESCONTRIAS.

I THINK ONE THING IN THAT KIND OF PIGGYBACKING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT, COMMISSIONER WODNICKI'S KIND OF CONCERNS ARE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME SPECULATION OR TALK ABOUT.

THIS ISN'T DISCUSSION. I'M NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING. I'M SETTING IT UP.

I'M NOT DISCUSSING IT. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO BE AN AGENDA FOR WHAT YOU'RE.

THIS IS MEMBER ITEMS. AS IN, HERE'S SOMETHING I WANT TO DISCUSS.

HERE IS A MOTION TO DISCUSS SOMETHING. YES. OKAY.

OKAY. WE'VE BEEN DOING GOOD ALL NIGHT. I'LL LET YOU GO. GO AHEAD. NO. THAT'S FINE, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER SKIBA. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON THOSE PALLET SHELTERS.

THE NEW ONES. YOU KNOW WHAT? BECAUSE WE GOT MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THEM. YEAH, I KNOW.

SO LET'S GO, LET'S GO. OKAY. OH, I THINK THEY SAID THAT ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING AN ARCHITECT.

THEY HAD SOMEONE THAT WE ALREADY DROPPED OUT.

MAYBE BECAUSE IT TOOK US LAST MONTH, SO I DON'T KNOW.

SO. SO IS THAT A MOTION? AND YOU SEE ME, YOU SEE ME GOING RIGHT THERE? IS THERE? SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADD IT WE HAVE OUR STANDING AGENDA ITEM OF DISCUSSION ON RECENT UPDATES ON ENHANCED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE CAN SEND THAT QUESTION TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE PROSECUTOR, SINCE THAT WOULD BE UNDER HER PURVIEW.

SO WE CAN SEND THAT THROUGH KYLE, QUESTION TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

PROSECUTOR, IS STATUS UPDATE ON THE ADDITIONAL PALLET SHELTERS.

YEAH. ARE WE READY TO GO? SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SKIBA. THAT ACTUALLY. YES.

LOVE IT. COMMISSIONER KLAINBAUM. NO. COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

NO. COMMISSIONER GAUL, I DON'T KNOW. I WONDER ABOUT THOSE DELIVERY VEHICLES THAT ARE IN THE BLIND SPOT OF YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WITH THEIR LIGHTS BLINKING AND ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THAT? ANY CONCERNS, ANYBODY GETTING HIT OR HURT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO OTHER CONCERNS AT THIS POINT, IS THERE? IS THERE A MOTION? PROBABLY NOT. OKAY.

BUT JUST IN CASE. JUST. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BLAIR. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS NECESSARILY PROBABLY MAY FALL TO PUBLIC WORKS A LITTLE BIT.

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AND YOU DON'T HAVE A HANDRAIL THERE. FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES GOING DOWN THOSE STAIRS.

THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.

THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE UMBRELLA. [LAUGHTER] YES.

MY MY OPINION WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PUBLIC WORKS PURVIEW.

OKAY. NO. GET IT. BUT IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE THAT THEY PRESENT TO THAT COMMISSION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST ADD THAT ON THE UMBRELLA? YES, I'VE ADDED THAT IN THERE. GREAT. THOSE STAIRS BELONG TO THE COUNTY.

INTERESTING.

WHERE THEY CHARGE TO PARK. THAT'S THE COUNTY.

GET OUT OF HERE. WHEN I DID. WHEN I DID PARKING ENFORCEMENT FOR THE COUNTY, WE USED TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE TO GO THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT.

AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO ZUMA BEACH IS LIKE A WHOLE THING THEY DO.

BUT THAT BELONGS TO THE COUNTY. THAT THING. AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS AROUND HERE BELONG TO THE COUNTY TOO.

YEAH, DOWN AT THE ESPLANADE AREA. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE.

SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AT AGENDA ITEM L. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE AT AGENDA ITEM L.

THANK YOU ALL FOR A FANTASTIC EVENING. SO WITH THAT CITY OF REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION FOR MONDAY, JUNE 16TH IS ADJOURNED AT 8:27 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.