Jun 23, 2025 Public Works and Sustainability Commission

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SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

ABSENT. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.

HERE. COMMISSIONER BEELI. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER TSAO.

HERE. CHAIRPERSON ARRATA. PRESENT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S SALUTE TO THE FLAG. COMMISSIONER BEELI, COULD YOU PLEASE LEAD.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

BLUE FOLDER ITEMS ARE ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIAL TO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS AND OR PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED AFTER THE PRINTING AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE AGENDA PACKET FOR RECEIVE AND FILE. SO THE BLUE FOLDER. YEAH WE DID HAVE SEVERAL BLUE FOLDER ITEMS ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM J.2 TONIGHT. WE DO NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THOSE.

OKAY I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. CONSENT CALENDAR BUSINESS ITEMS.

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY.

ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW.

THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

THAT'S TO INCLUDE F.1 APPROVE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION MEETING.

F.2 APPROVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 28TH 25 SPECIAL JOINT MEETING AND F.3. APPROVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 28TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING. I MOVE WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OH. THERE'S NONE. AND THERE WAS NO. LET ME. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS NO HANDS RAISED OR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSENT CALENDAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING. HELLO. DARRYL BOYD RESIDENT AND PROPERTY OWNER OF 500-600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE BLOCK.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ON LATER TONIGHT.

YEAH, YEAH. IT'S NOT WHAT I'M. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

NOT THE SAME THING. THIS PAST SATURDAY AT 10:45 A.M., I WAS NEARLY T-BONED BY A FLYING BLUE TESLA CAR WITH A YOUNG MALE DRIVER.

I WAS EXITING THE NORTH END OF OUR STREET TO CROSS PROSPECT AVENUE AND MAKE A RIGHT TURN ONTO BERYL STREET.

THE TESLA WAS BARRELING DOWN THE HILL ON THE LEFT SOUTHBOUND LANE, WELL OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AND HEADING STRAIGHT AT ME.

LUCKILY, THE RIGHT SOUTHBOUND LANE WAS CLEAR AND THE DRIVER WAS ABLE TO SWERVE AND AVOID HITTING ME.

THIS IS JUST ONE VERY RECENT AND PERSONAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH DAILY.

THERE HAVE BEEN COLLISIONS AT BERYL AND NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE AND THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COLLISION, OR POSSIBLY EVEN WORSE.

WE'VE HAD TWO INSTANCES OF CARS FLYING OVER THE MEDIAN ON NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE.

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MR. MCGARRY MADE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE NOISE AND SAFETY ISSUES.

SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AFTER THAT LAST INSTANCE, YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

IN FACT, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS ON THE STREET IN ANY WAY, EITHER SAFETY, PRIVACY OR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR MANY DECADES.

WE ARE SUBJECTED TO NOISE LEVELS THAT ARE WAY BEYOND ACCEPTABLE LEVELS FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA, 45 TO 50DB IS CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE BY BOTH LA COUNTY CODE SECTION 12.08.390 AND CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CODE SECTION 4-24.301. YET WE ARE CONSTANTLY ASSAULTED WITH NOISE LEVELS BETWEEN 64.3 TO 68.8DB AND AS HIGH AS 85.2DB DURING AFTERNOON DRIVE TIME.

THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH HAS ADMITTED THAT IT EXCEEDS STATE GUIDELINES FOR NOISE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.

WHY IS THAT? THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.

WE'VE HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS IN WHICH THE RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO SPEAK AND GIVE SOME INPUT.

WE THOUGHT THINGS WERE GOING WELL, BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF GIVING ANY INPUT ON THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS GOING ON.

WHO IS MAKING THE DECISIONS TO PLANT TINY TREES THAT WILL NEVER PROVIDE PROTECTION? NEVER PROVIDE A SOUND BARRIER. IT'S SIMILAR TO THE OLEANDER BEING PLUCKED WITHOUT ANY NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS, LEAVING US WIDE OPEN AND EXPOSED TO ANY POSSIBLE MISHAP BY A SPEEDING OR DRUNK DRIVER.

WIDE OPEN TO EVERY BIT OF NOISE AND EXHAUST FUMES OUT THERE WIDE OPEN TO A DAILY AUDIENCE OF DRIVERS AND TRAFFIC PEERING DOWN ON US.

TRAFFIC CALMING FOR FLAGLER AND CLARK LANE IS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

TRAFFIC CALMING FOR BROADWAY WAS DISCUSSED AT A RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT SERIOUS TRAFFIC? TRAFFIC CALMING FOR 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE.

YOU'VE ALREADY DENIED THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ON THE STREET WHO WANTED SPEED BUMPS TO SLOW DOWN THE CUTOFF AND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

NOW YOU'RE PLANNING TWIGS OUT THERE ON THE MEDIAN THAT WILL NEVER PROVIDE SAFETY OR SOUND REMEDIATION.

AND WHO STARTS LANDSCAPING WITHOUT IRRIGATION? TIME. READY TO GO FIRST. CAN I FINISH, PLEASE? THAT'S UP TO THE. MOTION TO EXTEND ONE MINUTE.

SURE. CLEARLY, THERE WAS NEVER A REAL THOUGHT OUT PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT.

A SECOND AND A VOTE. WE NEED A SECOND AND A. LET'S SURE.

LET'S GO. GIVE ME A SECOND. I'M ALMOST DONE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO GET A VOICE VOTE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. CLEARLY, THERE WAS NEVER A REAL THOUGHT OUT PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO FAR, WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED IS COSMETICS ONLY.

IT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. YOU NEED TO GET THE TRAFFIC AND NOISE PROBLEMS UNDER SERIOUS CONTROL AND WITH THE SERIOUS PLAN.

THIS SITUATION IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC SAFETY AND NOISE NUISANCE AND IS DEFINED UNDER CALIFORNIA PENAL CODES 372 AND 373 A.

IT IS A DANGEROUS CONDITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY AND A PUBLIC NUISANCE AFFECTING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, AS WELL AS THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS HERE. THE RESIDENTS ON NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE ARE ALSO ENTITLED TO QUIET AND PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, PER CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE. THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

NEEDS TO STEP THINGS UP. STOP CUTTING CORNERS, DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY AND DO IT EXPEDITIOUSLY.

THE RESIDENTS ON OUR STREET HAVE HAD ENOUGH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY. NO ONE ON. THERE'S NO ONE ON ZOOM FOR THIS AS WELL AS FOR FLAGLER AND CLARK.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO. IF IT'S FOR THE ITEM, THEN WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP.

YOU. OKAY? MOVING ON TO ITEMS CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS AGENDA.

NO ITEMS FOR I. J ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION.

[J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

THEY DO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

AND WE HAVE DANNI HERE WHO WILL TAKE OVER. THANK YOU.

HI. GOOD EVENING. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I'M HERE WITH THE L.A.

COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICTS. AND. YEAH, MY NAME IS DANIELLE MAURIZIO.

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SO HERE'S OUR MISSION. SO OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT THROUGH INNOVATIVE AND COST EFFECTIVE WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT.

AND IN DOING SO, CONVERT WASTE INTO RESOURCES SUCH AS RECYCLED WATER, ENERGY AND RECYCLED MATERIALS.

SO WE'RE A CONFEDERATION OF 24 INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICTS PROVIDING WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE SERVICES.

THAT MAP SHOWS ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS. AND WE DO HAVE OUR DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, WHICH SERVES AS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT.

AND BY CONSOLIDATING A LOT OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS.

IT HELPS US PROVIDE LOWER COSTS FOR OUR SERVICES.

I'LL BE SPEAKING TODAY. LIKE WE SAID, WE PROVIDE WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE SERVICES.

NORMALLY, I WAS ASKED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW PRESENTATION OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS KIND OF OUR STANDARD PRESENTATION, WHICH NORMALLY FOCUSES MORE ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE. BUT I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE LIKE A PARTICULAR KIND OF EMPHASIS OR ADD, YOU KNOW, MORE ON THE SOLID WASTE.

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING BOTH OF THAT AS I GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.

SO WE SERVE 5.6 MILLION PEOPLE. YOU CAN SEE ON THAT MAP.

SO GENERALLY LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WE PRETTY MUCH SERVE ALL OF LA COUNTY EXCEPT FOR THE CITY OF LA, BECAUSE THE CITY OF LA HAS ITS OWN SANITATION BUREAU WITH ITS OWN WASTEWATER PLANTS.

SO IT'S 78 CITIES AND UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AREAS, 824MI².

WHEN IT COMES TO SOLID WASTE, I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP OF OUR SOLID WASTE FACILITIES LATER.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A MORE OF A MISHMASH.

JUST WHOEVER WANTS TO COME TO OUR FACILITIES.

SORT OF A SITUATION. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY SERVE CERTAIN AREAS.

AND THEN HERE, POPPING UP HERE, THESE ARE OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS.

A LOT OF THEM ARE OUR WATER RECLAMATION PLANTS THAT CREATE RECYCLED WATER FOR REUSE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO.

AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP THERE, YOU SEE THE WARREN FACILITY IN CARSON.

THAT'S OUR MAIN PLANT. AND CURRENTLY THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE RECYCLED WATER.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE END POINT FOR ALL OF OUR OTHER PLANTS.

YOU'LL SEE ON SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT WE'LL CALL IT, LIKE THE JOINT PLANT. IT'S AN OLD NAME AND WE'VE RENAMED IT THE WARREN FACILITY.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THE SLIDES HASN'T HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED YET.

SO ARE THESE 11 PLANTS TREATED ABOUT 400 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WASTEWATER.

SO WHAT IS WASTEWATER? I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW IT'S THE WATER. THE SEWER WATER.

SO IT'S WHAT WE PRODUCE WHEN WE FLUSH TOILETS, TAKE A SHOWER, RUN OUR KITCHEN SINK, DO OUR LAUNDRY.

ALL OF THAT IS WASTEWATER, RIGHT? AND IT GOES INTO THE PIPES UNDERGROUND SO WE MAINTAIN 1400 MILES OF TRUNK SEWERS.

AND THEN SEWAGE ENTERS EACH PLANT ABOUT 30FT BELOW THE GROUND.

SO THE FIRST STAGE, THE FIRST PROCESS, THE FIRST STEP IN OUR WATER TREATMENT PROCESS IS CALLED PRIMARY TREATMENT.

AND THAT SEDIMENTATION, WE'RE JUST DOING THE EASY PART OF JUST SETTLING THE HEAVY STUFF OUT.

THE SUSPENDED SOLIDS SETTLE OUT TO THE BOTTOM.

SOME ORGANICS WILL FLOAT UP TO THE TOP DURING THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

THE NEXT ONE, SECONDARY TREATMENT. THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY UNIQUE TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT AS OPPOSED TO DRINKING WATER TREATMENT. IT'S A BIOLOGICAL PROCESS.

SO THESE ARE THESE ARE ACTUALLY AERATION BASINS.

AND THEN HERE'S THE CLOSE UP. SO AERATION IS THE KEY TO SECONDARY TREATMENT.

SO YOU HAVE THESE MICROORGANISMS HERE. AND WHATEVER ORGANIC PARTICLES REMAIN IN THE WASTEWATER ARE EATEN UP BY THESE NATURALLY OCCURRING BACTERIA IN THE WASTEWATER.

SO WE ACTUALLY GIVE THEM ALL THIS OXYGEN. WE SUPPLY THEM WITH ALL THIS OXYGEN.

THERE'S LOSS OF AIR WITH THE AERATION SO THAT THEY CAN THRIVE.

SO WE WANT THEM TO EAT ALL THE ORGANICS IN THE WASTEWATER.

AND THEN AT THE END WE'LL SETTLE THE MICROORGANISMS OUT AND YOU KNOW THE GOOD WATER WILL FLOAT UP TO THE TOP, THE MICROORGANISMS WILL SETTLE OUT. AND IN FACT, WE ACTUALLY REUSE THOSE MICROORGANISMS LIKE WE KEEP REUSING THEM WITH THE NEW WATER THAT COMES THROUGH. AND THEN THAT GOOD WATER OUT OF THAT PROCESS IS SECONDARY EFFLUENT, IS LIKE THE PRODUCT OF IT, THAT'S SKIMMED OFF THE TOP WITH WEIRS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THIS IS WHERE IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO DRINKING WATER TREATMENT, TERTIARY TREATMENT. IT'S FILTRATION AND DISINFECTION.

SO THIS IS WHAT A FILTER LOOKS LIKE. THE WATER COMES IN YOU KNOW THROUGH THE TOP AND JUST GRAVITY FLOWS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.

SO THROUGH A LAYER OF ANTHRACITE COAL AND THEN THROUGH A LAYER OF SAND AND THEN A LAYER OF GRAVEL.

AND THEN IT'S GOING OUT TO REUSE. THIS IS WATER IS ALL FOR REUSE BECAUSE OUR WARREN FACILITY, THE ONE IN CARSON, DOES NOT HAVE TERTIARY TREATMENT.

ONLY OUR WATER RECYCLING PLANTS HAVE TERTIARY TREATMENT BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF TREATMENT.

THE WARREN WATER ALL CURRENTLY GOES TO THE OCEAN.

IT TAKES ABOUT 10 TO 12 HOURS FOR CLEAN WATER TO BE PRODUCED.

AND YOU KNOW THAT LAST STEP IN THERE. WE'VE GOT CHLORINATION IN THERE TO TO KILL PATHOGENS.

SO THIS IS A LITTLE OUTDATED. IT ENDS IN 2020.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE TREATED EACH YEAR.

SO THAT THAT BOTTOM THAT DARKER BLUE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BENEFICIALLY REUSED.

SO TYPICALLY THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IRRIGATION AND YOU KNOW, JUST WATER GROUNDWATER RECHARGE I'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT THEN THAT LIGHT BLUE IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE'RE CURRENTLY MISSING.

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AND THEN OZONE DISCHARGE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF A LOST OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT GOING ON WITH MWD TO DO ADVANCED TREATMENT ON THAT WATER OUT OF THAT CARSON PLANT, THAT WARREN PLANT IN CARSON THAT IT WILL BE USED FOR REUSE.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF REUSE. THIS IS CLEAN WATER AND IT'S USED FOR GROUNDWATER RECHARGE.

THIS IS THE MONTEBELLO FOREBAY SPREADING GROUNDS.

AND SO LITERALLY LIKE THE RECYCLED WATER IS JUST PUT IN BIG PERCOLATION BASINS IN THE GROUND AND IT WILL PERCOLATE DOWN AND IT WILL JOIN THE REST OF THE GROUNDWATER AND IT WILL GO THROUGH LIKE A NATURAL PROCESS CALLED THE SOIL AQUIFER TREATMENT PROCESS.

SO IT WILL BE NATURALLY CLEANED, YOU KNOW, AFTER IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH ITS WHOLE LIKE TRADITIONAL TERTIARY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS, THEN THE SOIL WILL FURTHER CLEAN IT. AND THEN DOWNSTREAM IN A COUPLE OF YEARS IT WILL BE PUMPED UP, TYPICALLY FOR DRINKING WATER BY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CITY HAS WELLS IN THE VICINITY.

SO THE RECYCLED WATER AUGMENTS THE LOCAL WATER SUPPLY.

SO THIS IS 1 TRILLION GALLONS RECYCLED SINCE 1962.

I'M SURE THAT'S A LITTLE UPDATED NOW, BUT OUTDATED NOW.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE'S SOME OF THE TYPICAL USES.

AGRICULTURE INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES, LANDSCAPING, LIKE GOLF COURSES AND CEMETERIES REALLY COMMONLY USE RECYCLED WATER TO IRRIGATE GROUNDWATER. THAT'S THE PICTURE I JUST SHOWED YOU.

AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PURPOSES. MITIGATION MEASURES AND HABITAT, STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN SO THIS IS THE NETWORK OF SOME OF THE PIPES OF ALL OF OUR WASTEWATER FACILITIES.

SO ALL THOSE MOST OF THE MAIN ONES, THE RECYCLING PLANTS, OR WE CALL THEM WATER RECLAMATION PLANTS.

THEY ACTUALLY, I KNOW THIS IS LIKE, MAYBE NOT OBVIOUS, BUT THEY PUT THEIR SOLID, THEY TAKE THE SOLIDS SO THAT, I TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY DID WITH THE CLEAN WATER, BUT THE LEFTOVER STUFF, THE SOLIDS ACTUALLY PUT IT RIGHT BACK IN THE SEWER LINES, AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO THAT MAIN WARREN PLANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR DIGESTERS THERE AT THE MAIN AT THE WARREN PLANT THAT WE USE TO TREAT THE SOLIDS.

AND I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LATER SLIDE.

AND THERE YOU GO. THAT'S HOW THEY ALL ENDED UP.

OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION INTO OUR SOLID WASTE FACILITIES.

SO YOU SEE HERE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO THE ORANGE TRIANGLES, THESE ARE OUR MATERIAL RECOVERY AND TRANSFER FACILITIES I'LL DEFINE THAT FOR YOU IN A MINUTE.

BUT WE'VE GOT SOUTHGATE AND POINT HILLS. WE ALSO HAVE THE DARK ONE, BUT WE ACTUALLY LEASE THAT OUT TO A THIRD PARTY.

NOW IT EXISTS AND WE OWN IT, BUT WE DON'T OPERATE IT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE OPEN LANDFILLS ARE CALABASAS AND SCHOLL, AND I'LL GET INTO THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A MINUTE.

NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL CLOSED LANDFILLS MISSION CANYON, PALOS VERDES, PUENTE HILLS AND SPADRA.

THEY'RE ALL CLOSED. THEY NO LONGER ACCEPT WASTE.

SOME OF THEM THEY HAVE, LIKE A PARK BUILT ON TOP OF THEM.

BUT WE ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEM.

THEY STILL HAVE GAS SYSTEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE GAS PIPING IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

OKAY, SO HERE'S OUR TWO OPEN OPERATING LANDFILLS RIGHT NOW, SCHOLL CANYON AND CALABASAS.

NONE OF REDONDO BEACH WASTE WOULD EVER GO THERE BECAUSE THESE TWO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A WASTE SHED.

SO THAT'S LIKE A GEOGRAPHIC AREA AROUND EACH OF THEM.

AND WASTE IS ONLY ALLOWED TO GO TO THEM FROM THAT SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

SO OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, WE'RE FAR FROM THERE. BUT THEN WE HAVE THESE MATERIAL RECOVERY AND TRANSFER STATIONS.

SO WE HAVE THE PUENTE HILLS MATERIALS RECOVERY FACILITY.

I'LL GET INTO LIKE MORE DETAIL ON THAT, SOME FUTURE SLIDES, BUT THAT'S LOCATED AT THE 60 AND 605 AND THAT'S AN INDOOR FACILITY.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SOUTH GATE ONE LOCATED IN SOUTH GATE.

AND THAT'S AN OUTDOOR FACILITY. THAT ONE ONLY ACCEPTS TRASH.

THE OTHER ONE ACCEPTS MORE, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, BUT SOUTH GATE ONLY ACCEPTS TRASH. NOW, FOR THOSE TWO FACILITIES, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME THERE CAN COME THERE. YOU HAVE TO PAY THE TIP FEE, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ABOUT $100 A TON OR SO FOR TRASH.

AND THEN THERE'S OTHER RATES FOR OTHER TYPE OF MATERIALS, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN GO THERE.

SO WHAT I, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH A TRANSFER STATION, WHAT I SAY IS SMALL TRUCKS COME IN AND BIG TRUCKS GO OUT.

SO IT COULD BE IF YOU'RE CLEANING OUT YOUR GARAGE AND YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, DISPOSE OF YOUR WASTE.

FROM THAT YOU COULD GO TO A FACILITY SUCH AS THIS, AS A TRANSFER STATION.

IT'S MORE CONVENIENT THAN GOING TO A LANDFILL.

GENERALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO HOME. SO MAYBE YOU GO WITH A PICKUP TRUCK FULL OF STUFF AND YOU PAY PER TON TO DUMP YOUR WASTE THERE.

OR MAYBE A KITCHEN REMODELER. YOU KNOW A CONTRACTOR.

HE OR SHE MIGHT GO THERE WITH WASTE. OR EVEN LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTION TRUCKS WILL GO THERE, BUT THEY ALL GO THERE. THEY ALL DUMP THEIR WASTE INTO ONE BIG PILE, AND THEN IT'S LOADED ONTO BIG TRANSFER TRUCKS.

AND THOSE TRANSFER TRUCKS THEN TAKE THE WASTE TO A LANDFILL.

FOR YEARS NOW, WE'VE GONE TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ORANGE COUNTY LANDFILLS, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO TRANSITION TO GOING TO ONE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY, WHOEVER WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH, BASICALLY. SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT I'M.

PUENTE HILLS MATERIALS RECOVERY FACILITY, THIS IS THE ONE THAT I JUST SAID WAS AT THE 60 AND 605.

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AND THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A TRANSFER STATION BECAUSE, YES, WE TRANSFER STUFF THROUGH THERE, BUT WE ALSO RECOVER A LOT OF RECYCLED MATERIAL.

AND ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A RECYCLING LINE.

YOU'LL SEE IN ANOTHER SLIDE. BUT WE LEASED THAT PORTION OF THE FACILITY OUT TO A THIRD PARTY, BUT ALL THE OPERATIONS ARE STILL HAPPENING. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE IN THE FOREFRONT THERE WITH THE WITH THE BIG MACHINE, THAT'S ALL THEY RECYCLE UNDER, SEE, LIKE ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING THERE'S THE NUMBER ONE.

SO UNDER THAT NUMBER ONE THAT'S ALL RECYCLED MATERIAL.

AND IT'S GETTING READY TO BE LOADED INTO THE START LINE. AND I'LL SHOW YOU PICTURE THAT IN A MINUTE. BEHIND THAT IS JUST TRASH.

WE CALL IT MSW MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE. BUT IT'S TRASH AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED OUT TO A LANDFILL BEHIND THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT THERE'S GREEN WASTE. AND THEN OFF TO THE RIGHT IS OUR WHOLE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM.

AND I HAVE SOME SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY DUSTY IN THERE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR MISTING SYSTEM. WE HAVE A MISSING SYSTEM FROM THE CEILING TO CONTROL DUST AND ODORS IN THE BUILDING.

AND THAT BUILDING IS SO LARGE. JUST FOR SCALE.

DO YOU SEE THAT LITTLE WHITE MINIVAN DOWN THERE? THAT'S HOW BIG THAT. AND THERE'S A PERSON DOWN THERE, TOO. THAT'S HOW BIG THAT BUILDING IS. YOU CAN FIT THREE AND A HALF JUMBO JETS INSIDE THAT BUILDING. SO HERE'S THE SORT LINE. THIS IS FOR RECYCLED MATERIAL.

SO THEY WERE BEING LOADED UP KIND OF IN THAT OTHER PICTURE.

AND THEN THEY'LL RUN THROUGH THIS WHOLE MECHANICAL SORT LINE. SOME OF IT HAS YOU KNOW THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME AI ON THERE AND THERE'S SOME MAGNETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SOME OF IT IS LIKE PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S STAFFED WITH PERSONNEL THAT DO THE SORTING.

BUT IN THE END, WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE SORTING MATERIALS, YOU HAVE YOUR RECYCLED CANS, AND YOU HAVE YOUR PLASTIC BOTTLES, AND YOU HAVE YOUR PAPER AND YOU HAVE YOUR CARDBOARD, AND ALL THOSE ARE KNOWN AS COMMODITIES.

AND THEY'RE TURNED INTO THE BALES THAT YOU SEE THERE IN THE PICTURE.

SO IT'S LIKE A HAY BALE, BUT INSTEAD OF HAY IT'S LIKE AN ALUMINUM CAN BALE.

AND THEY WILL SELL. WE USED TO DO IT WHEN WE OPERATED IT.

AND NOW ATHENS, ATHENS WILL SELL THOSE BALES OFF TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMODITIES, AND THEY WILL BE SOLD TO A RECYCLER.

AND THEN SOME RECYCLER WILL TAKE THAT AND TURN IT INTO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

MAYBE MORE ALUMINUM CANS OR THE PLASTICS GET REUSED IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS.

AND THEN OUR FOOD WASTE PROGRAM IS OUR NEWEST PROGRAM.

IT'S LIKE SEVEN YEARS OLD NOW, BUT WE ACCEPT FOOD WASTE, PURE FOOD WASTE HERE.

NOT REALLY GREEN WASTE MIXED WITH FOOD WASTE.

BUT SO MOSTLY THE FOOD WASTE THAT WE RECEIVE COMES FROM EITHER RESTAURANTS OR GROCERY STORES.

AND SO THEY WILL BRING THE FOOD, THEY WILL COME HERE AND TIP AND DUMP ON THE GROUND.

AND WE ALSO RECEIVE IT FROM OUR LOCAL CANYON LANDFILL.

SOME OF THAT THEY RECEIVE THERE AND THEY TRANSFER IT OVER TO US.

SOMETIMES IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE FRESH PRODUCE, AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT A WASTE, YOU KNOW? BUT IT WAS EXPIRED OR SOMETHING, AND SOMETIMES IT'S WHAT YOU THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. [LAUGHS] IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE, BUT AND PEOPLE THINK THAT, LIKE, THIS BUILDING STINKS BECAUSE OF THE TRASH.

BUT I PROMISE YOU, THE TRASH DOES NOT SMELL AT ALL WHEN YOU'RE IN THE LIKE.

IT'S THIS, LIKE, WE GET GARLIC IN THERE AND ONIONS IN THERE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY FRAGRANT.

JUST, YOU KNOW, FUN FACT. SO THAT MACHINE RIGHT THERE IS CALLED A LOADER, AND IT IS LOADING.

IT'S SCOOPING UP AND LOADING THE FOOD WASTE INTO THE HOPPER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEHIND IT.

THAT KIND OF RECEIVING BUCKET, BASICALLY. AND THAT OUR FOOD WASTE EQUIPMENT, WE REFER TO IT AS THE DOTA BECAUSE IT IS MADE BY A COMPANY IN ITALY.

THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS DOTA. SO WE JUST CALL IT THE DOTA AND IT'S, IT WILL TURN THAT FOOD WASTE, WE'LL ADD WATER TO IT AND IT WILL TURN THAT FOOD WASTE INTO A SLURRY.

IT WILL BASICALLY LOOK LIKE JAMBA JUICE WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THAT PROCESSING EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TANKS THERE IN THE BACKGROUND. SO ALL THAT LIKE SLURRY, THAT JAMBA JUICE LOOKING STUFF IS STORED IN THOSE TANKS.

AND THEN WE HAVE TANKER TRUCKS THAT COME IN EVERY DAY AND FILL UP THAT SLURRY AND TRANSPORT IT DOWN TO THAT CARSON WASTEWATER FACILITY CALLED THE WARREN.

AND AND THEY PUT IT INTO THE DIGESTERS THERE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE.

SO WHY DO WE HAVE THIS FOOD WASTE PROGRAM? FOOD WASTE THAT IS DISPOSED OF IN LANDFILLS CAN RELEASE METHANE INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BAD THING. WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THAT.

FOOD WASTE IS THE LARGEST PORTION OF ORGANIC WASTE.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS CHART. BUT FOOD WASTE YOU KNOW, IT'S 43.7%.

AND WE'VE ALREADY PICKED OFF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. RIGHT. LEAVES AND GRASS AND PRUNING AND LIKE ALL CITIES AND STUFF HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, GREEN WASTE PROGRAMS FOR A LONG TIME. SO NOW WE'RE KIND OF MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PIECE OF ORGANIC WASTE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR CITY DOES HERE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES HAVE THEIR RESIDENTS PUT THEIR FOOD WASTE INTO THEIR GREEN WASTE BIN, AND THEN IT'S SENT OFF FOR COMPOSTING IT. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT MY CITY HAS ME DO, BUT EVERY CITY CHOOSES TO HANDLE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

AND THESE ARE THE MANDATES. AND SB 1383 IS KIND OF THE HOT ONE THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVEN THIS FOOD WASTE INITIATIVE AND THAT'S WHY CITIES ARE HAVING THESE PROGRAMS NOW FOR THEIR RESIDENTS TO PUT THEIR FOOD WASTE IN THEIR GREEN WASTE BIN.

SO I'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THIS ALREADY, BUT WE HAVE THE UNPROCESSED FOOD WASTE, LIKE JUST THE WHOLE PIECES OF FOOD THAT COME IN AND IT GOES THROUGH PRE-PROCESSING THE

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AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THOSE LIKE TALLER TANKS THERE. IT'S BEING TRANSFERRED OVER.

IT GOES INTO DIGESTERS. I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF A DIGESTER IN A MINUTE.

BUT OUT OF THOSE DIGESTER DIGESTERS, LIKE, JUST IMAGINE.

LIKE IT'S A BIG LIKE. WHAT DO WE SAY? LIKE CONCRETE STOMACH.

AND SO OUT OF THAT DIGESTER COMES BIOGAS. AND WE CAN USE THAT BIOGAS TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE FUEL. WE HAVE FUEL STATIONS FOR CNG, FOR COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS.

YEAH. WE CAN WE CAN REPURPOSE THAT BIOGAS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WHAT'S LEFT? THE SOLIDS THAT ARE LEFT AFTER THE DIGESTION PROCESS THOSE WILL GO ON TO COMPOSTING.

WE HAVE A COMPOSTING FACILITY THAT WE SEND IT TO, BUT WE ALSO SEND IT TO OUTSIDE COMPOSTING FACILITIES AS WELL BECAUSE OURS ISN'T BIG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE AT ALL. SO THIS IS A DIGESTER.

SO THIS IS THE WARREN PLANT. THERE'S 24 DIGESTERS THERE.

AND IT TAKES 15 TO 16 DAYS FOR, FOR WASTE, YOU KNOW, TO GET FULLY DIGESTED IN THERE.

SO BOTH REMEMBER WHEN I SAID WHEN THERE WAS THAT PICTURE OF THE WASTEWATER PLANTS.

AND I SAID THEY PUT THEIR SOLIDS BACK INTO THE SEWER LINE. AND IT ALL ENDS UP DOWN AT WARREN BECAUSE IT GOES IN THESE TANKS.

IT GOES IN THESE DIGESTER TANKS, JUST AS THE FOOD WASTE SLURRY GOES IN THIS DIGESTER TANKS, BECAUSE THEY CAN GENERATE THE BIOGAS OFF OF ALL OF IT.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE STEAM GENERATORS THAT ARE USED TO GENERATE POWER.

AND THEN AS I SAID, MOST OF OUR BIOSOLIDS ARE COMPOSTED WITH AG WASTE.

NOW WHAT AAG WASTE MEANS, AT LEAST IN THIS CONTEXT, IS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THAT THEY PULL OUT, LIKE OUR COMPOSTING FACILITIES IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY AND KETTLEMAN CITY.

AND THERE'S ALL THESE FARMERS THERE THAT ARE PULLING OUT THEIR CROPS OR PULLING OUT THEIR TREES, AND THEY'RE LIKE STARTING NEW CROPS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FARMING SIDE OF THAT, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF WOOD WASTE TO BE HAD ALL THE TIME.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE CALL AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ADD WITH OUR SOLIDS TO, TO GENERATE THE TO AID THE COMPOSTING PROCESS.

WE ALSO HAVE FARMLAND OUT THERE THAT THE COMPOST IS APPLIED TO.

SO HERE'S OUR YOU KNOW, HERE'S A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ENERGY PRODUCTION.

SO I'VE TALKED REALLY ABOUT LIKE WASTEWATER AND HOW IT GENERATES ENERGY OUT OF THE DIGESTERS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR LANDFILLS. AS I MENTIONED, THEY ALL HAVE THE LANDFILL GAS PIPING SYSTEM.

SO THEY GENERATE GAS AS WELL THAT WE COLLECT INTO THE PIPES.

AND THEN SOME OF OUR LANDFILLS HAVE ENERGY FACILITIES.

THEY HAVE POWER PLANTS. SO IT'S KIND OF ABOUT 50-50 THERE BETWEEN WHAT'S GENERATED OUT OF THE LANDFILL AND WHAT'S GENERATED OUT OF THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

BUT WE PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER FOR 43,000 HOMES.

AND WHAT WE DO WITH THE POWER IS WE USE IT TO POWER OUR FACILITIES.

BUT THEN ALSO, WE STILL HAVE SOME LEFT OVER TO PUT BACK INTO THE GRID TO SELL BACK INTO THE GRID.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FABULOUS. PRETTY GREAT PRESENTATION. HOW WERE YOU LIKE THE DATE WAS 2020, OF MEETING THAT THRESHOLD.

HOW WERE YOU ON ON HOW DID YOU DO. I'M SORRY.

WHAT? THE NRSB OR THE ONE? WELL, WE DON'T I THINK THAT THE THRESHOLD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PROBABLY WHAT CITIES HAVE TO MEET.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT A CITY. LIKE, PEOPLE BRING US STUFF AND WE PROCESS IT, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T. WE ARE HELPING CITIES FULFILL THEIR MANDATES.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN MANDATE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GENERATING THE WASTE.

YEAH, BUT WE HAVE I MEAN, WE HAVE HIGH WE TRY AND REALLY HAVE HIGH DIVERSION RATES AT OUR FACILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CITIES AND WE WANT THEM TO KEEP COMING TO US. SO WE TRY AND REALLY LIKE OUR FOR THE FOOD WASTE THAT COMES TO US THAT NOW WE DON'T ACCEPT IF IT'S TO CONTAMINATE OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR WHAT WE ALLOW FOR WHAT COMES TO US, OVER 90% OF IT IS DIVERTED OUT OF THE STREAM, AND THEN ABOUT 10% OF IT IS WHAT WE CALL RESIDUALS.

IT'S LIKE THE TRASH IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO SET ASIDE AND PUT IT IN THE TRASH PILE.

YES. FOR THE SOLID WASTE THAT COMES DOWN INTO THE WARREN FACILITY.

WHERE DOES THAT GO? FOR THE SOLID WASTE, YOU MEAN? I'LL JUST BACK UP ON THE SLIDES HERE. FOR THE WASTEWATER? YEAH. YOU'RE REFERRING TO TO THAT SLIDE. THAT ONE.

YEAH. YEAH. SO IT GOES IN THOSE DIGESTERS. SO THAT GOES ON THE DIGESTERS AS WELL.

YEAH. SO FOOD WASTE AND WASTEWATER SOLIDS ARE DIGESTED IN THESE 24 DIGESTERS.

YEAH. THEY ALL THEY PUT IT. IT'S SO WEIRD TO ME EVEN.

AND I WORK IN THE INDUSTRY. BUT YEAH, THOSE, THOSE WATER RECLAMATION PLANTS, THEY JUST PUT THEIR SOLIDS RIGHT BACK IN THE PIPELINE AND JUST SEND IT ON DOWN TO THE WARREN. AND SO THE WARREN COLLECTS EVERYTHING IN THAT PIPELINE AND WILL RESTORE THE SOLIDS BACK OUT.

WHERE'S THE SOLIDS AND EVERYTHING AFTER DECADES AFTER THE GAS GETS PULLED OUT OF IT OR WHATEVER.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE 15 TO 16 DAYS? I MEAN, THE SOLIDS IS MUCH LESS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN LIKE BIOLOGICAL PROCESSES,

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THAT'S WHAT GOES TO OUR COMPOST FACILITY AND IS TURNED INTO COMPOST.

IS THAT ON RIVERSIDE? SO THE ONE THAT WE OWN IS IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA.

IT'S IN KETTLEMAN CITY. BUT THERE IS ONE AND THERE'S ONE THAT WE HAVE A JOINT OWNERSHIP WITH IUA THAT'S IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA.

BUT THEN THERE'S LIKE EIGHT OTHER ONES THAT WE CONTRACT WITH THAT OUR WASTE GOES TO.

AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO THAT BECOMES FERTILIZER. IT BECOMES FERTILIZER. YEAH. GENERALLY I THINK THERE'S ARIZONA OR SOMEONE STILL ALLOWS LIKE LANDFILLING OF IT. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THAT GOES ON.

BUT OUR COMPOSTING FACILITY AND ANY KIND OF COMPOSTING FACILITY, YES, IT BECOMES FERTILIZER.

OURS, WE HAVE OUR OWN FARMLAND AND IT'S APPLIED TO THAT FARMLAND.

WE SELL SOME OF IT, SOME OTHER ONES ARE MARKETING IT FOR LIKE HOME DEPOT SALES.

LIKE RETAIL SALES. WE DON'T RETAIL SELL ANY OF IT.

IT ALL GOES TO FARMERS. OKAY. BUT IT'S ALL BENEFICIALLY REUSED.

THE END GOAL IS LIKE BENEFICIAL REUSE ON EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, USES QUITE A BIT OF STUFF AND PRODUCES QUITE A BIT OF WASTEWATER.

SO THE QUESTION WAS THERE IS LIKE THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF.

SO I WAS KIND OF WONDERING HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, TRUCKLOADS COME OUT OF THAT FACILITY KIND OF A DAY REALLY.

AND YOU'RE WHAT, CENTRAL CALIFORNIA? YEAH. I MEAN, THE ONE THAT WE OWN, BUT ONLY, LIKE, 10% OF OUR WASTE GOES THERE.

10% OF THE WARREN WASTE GOES THERE. AND I THINK, HOW MANY TRUCKS DO WE RECEIVE AT THAT FACILITY A DAY? BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT OFF THE 110 OR 20. IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT. AND THAT'S JUST 10% OF IT. SO YEAH, IT'S A LOT.

IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT. BUT THE GOAL IS BENEFICIAL REUSE.

YEAH. YOU'VE BEEN EXPANDING THAT FACILITY TOO RIGHT.

THE WARREN MAYBE NOT EXPANDING THE ACTUAL FACILITY, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MWD PROJECT IS GOING AND THE JOINT PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING WITH MWD.

PROBABLY WHAT IT IS. YEAH. SO THAT WATER IS GOING TO GET ADVANCED TREATED, WHICH IS BEYOND THE TERTIARY TREATMENT.

I TALKED ABOUT ADVANCED TREATED JUST LIKE RO, REVERSE OSMOSIS AND PROCESSES LIKE THAT.

AND AND THEN IT WILL GET REUSED. BUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT PLANT RIGHT NOW ONLY HAS SECONDARY TREATMENT ON IT.

SO IT DOES NOT HAVE THAT LAST STAGE OF FILTRATION LIKE I TALKED ABOUT. SO THAT BECAUSE THAT RIGHT NOW THAT WATER IS GOING OUT FOR OCEAN DISCHARGE.

SO THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE THAT AND BENEFICIALLY REUSE THE WATER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. GOOD STUFF. SO DO WE NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE I THINK.

MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE PRESENTATION? PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST ON THIS ITEM. OH. I'M SORRY. THERE IS NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM.

AND THERE IS NO. LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK THE ECOMMENTS.

THERE'S NO ECOMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. SO I MOVE THAT WE RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION.

I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO J.2. DISCUSSION OF STRIPING ENHANCEMENTS ON PROSPECT FRONTAGE ROAD 500 TO 600 BLOCK. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. RYAN LIU, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TALKING ABOUT THE PROSPECT INTERSECTION WITH BCHD BC BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT.

SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS ITEM. THIS IS STEMMING FROM THE SPEEDING AND SAFETY CONCERNS ALONG THE PROSPECT FRONTAGE ROAD.

THE 500 - 600 BLOCK BETWEEN BERYL AND DIAMOND.

THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT SPEEDING, ONE WAY VIOLATIONS, SAFETY SECURITY, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT VARIOUS MEETINGS IN THE PAST. NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND INCLUDING THIS COMMISSION.

BACK IN APRIL 2025 THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED SOME STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS TO REINFORCE THE ONE WAY AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WE SUGGESTED SOME TRIAL CLOSURES AT THIS INTERSECTION TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TURNING CONFLICTS.

BUT I BELIEVE AT LEAST ONE RESIDENT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO THAT TRIAL WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMISSION.

AT THAT MEETING, THE COMMISSION ALSO DECLINED TO RECOMMEND SPEED CUSHIONS AS WELL, BASED ON THE DATA, THE TRAFFIC DATA THAT WAS GATHERED THERE. SO HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION.

JUST SOME GENERAL TRAFFIC DATA. THE RED ARROWS SHOW THE DIRECTIONALITY OF THE STREET.

WHERE FOR THE FRONTAGE ROAD NORTH OF BCHD, NORTHWEST OF BCHD IS A TWO WAY.

AND SOUTHEAST IS A ONE WAY NORTHBOUND GOING AWAY FROM DIAMOND TOWARDS BCHD.

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BUT AS WE CAN SEE FROM THE DATA, WE'RE SEEING ABOUT 75 CARS PER DAY ON AVERAGE, WHICH IS PRETTY LOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE LOWEST THAT WE THAT WE'VE SEEN IN ALL THE TRAFFIC DATA THAT WE COLLECT.

THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS ARE 24MPH. SO THAT MEANS 85% OF DRIVERS ARE GOING ABOUT 24MPH OR LOWER, WHICH IS LOWER THAN THE 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.

CITY STAFF HAVE NOT SEEN THE STREET AS SORT OF PROVIDING ANY ADVANTAGE FOR BEING, YOU KNOW, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FOR THE ONE WAY PORTION.

THERE'S MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENTRY HERE AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY DISCERNIBLE ADVANTAGE THAT SORT OF A REGIONAL COMMUTER COULD, COULD HAVE IF THEY WERE TO GO ALONG THIS FRONTAGE ROAD.

SO WE THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT A LOT OF THESE ONE WAY VIOLATIONS COULD BE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST BLATANTLY IGNORING THOSE SIGNS AND MARKINGS.

BUT NONETHELESS, YOU KNOW, PER THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME TREATMENTS TO REINFORCE THAT ONE WAY, SINCE IT IS A LITTLE BIT UNCONVENTIONAL. THIS INCLUDES AND WE'LL SHOW IN THE NEXT SLIDE, THE PROPOSAL STRIPING TO GUIDE THOSE SOUTHEAST BOUND DRIVERS TO THE SIGNAL. SO IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE FRONTAGE ROAD HERE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE A SLIGHT LEFT AND EXIT THE FRONTAGE ROAD AT THE SIGNAL.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING SOME STRIPING TO GUIDE THOSE DRIVERS TO THE SIGNAL.

ADDITIONAL STRIPING TO NARROW THE ONE WAY OPENING ON THE NORTHBOUND SECTION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

JUST JUST VISUALLY NARROWING THAT TO SHOW THAT IT'S ONE WAY AND YOU CAN'T ENTER.

WE ALREADY HAVE ONE WAY SIGNAGE AND DO NOT ENTER SIGNAGE THERE.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING SOME RED REFLECTIVE PAVEMENT MARKERS TO REINFORCE THE ONE WAY.

SO THESE ARE RACE PAVEMENT MARKERS THAT IF YOU DRIVE OVER THEM, YOU FEEL A LITTLE BUMP? BUT ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, IF YOUR HEADLIGHTS ARE SHINING OUT, YOU'LL SEE LIKE RED DOTS.

AND THAT SHOWS THAT YOU CANNOT ENTER THE ONE WAY PORTION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND ADDITIONAL RED CURVE TO FACILITATE TRAFFIC FLOW AND VISIBILITY OF THAT STRIPING.

AND SO THESE PROPOSED TREATMENTS CAN BE DONE PRETTY EASILY BY THE CITY'S CREWS IN-HOUSE.

THERE IS SOME THERMOPLASTIC STRIPING THERE, THAT ONE WAY ARROW.

UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THAT EASILY WITHOUT CAUSING A SCAR ON THE STREET.

SO THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY'S CONTRACTOR TO COME, WHICH CAN BE CAN BE A DIFFICULT TASK THESE DAYS.

BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE STRIPING PROPOSALS HERE CAN OPERATE INDEPENDENT OF THAT.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS HERE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE MOST OF THESE CAN CAN WORK INDEPENDENTLY DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSION'S MOTION.

BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS IS THIS REPRESENTS THE COMPLETE PACKAGE OF STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE AT THIS AREA.

SO FOR EXAMPLE ADDITIONAL 20FT OF RED CURB TO PROVIDE SOME BREATHING ROOM FOR DRIVERS WHO ARE COMING INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

A RIGHT TURN ARROW THAT'S SORT OF PLACED, A STANDARD RIGHT TURN ARROW THAT'S PLACED IN THE SPACE OF THAT MEDIAN.

THIS IS ABOUT ALL THAT CAN FIT IN THIS AREA. SOME DASHED AND SOLID YELLOW STRIVING TO DIVIDE THE TWO DIRECTIONS OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD. WHITE STRIPE, A WHITE STRIPE HERE TO AID WITH THAT REQUIRED TURN.

THIS GREEN VEHICLE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE WE CAN RESERVE ONE PARKING SPACE.

THE CURB BETWEEN THESE TWO HOMES HERE IS ABOUT 34, 36FT LONG.

SO TECHNICALLY BE ABLE TO PARK TWO SMALLER VEHICLES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S INDIVIDUALLY PARKED THERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STAFF'S PROPOSAL IS TO JUST PRESERVE ONE SPACE HERE SO THAT ALL THE STRIPING CAN BE VISIBLE, AND THEN RED CURB AS NECESSARY SO THAT ALL OF STAFF'S, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE TREATMENTS ARE VISIBLE.

THESE SQUARES ARE THE ONE WAY RED REFLECTIVE MARKERS THAT I MENTIONED.

THERE IS ALREADY 20FT EXISTING A RED CURB HERE.

THESE CIRCLES SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE NEED VEHICLES TO WAIT IN ORDER TO BE DETECTED BY THE SIGNAL.

WE DON'T HAVE AN EASY WAY OF CHANGING THE LOCATIONS OF THESE, SO WE DO NEED DRIVERS TO TO WAIT ON THOSE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THE STRIPED CURB EXTENSION TO VISUALLY NARROW THE OPENING.

SO IT'S CLEAR THAT ONE WAY TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH HERE.

THIS PLAN WAS SENT TO RESIDENTS DURING THE NOTICING FOR THIS ITEM FOR ALL 27 RESIDENTS ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

WE RECEIVED A GOOD AMOUNT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK FOR THIS ITEM.

IT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA AND THE BLUE FOLDER FOR THIS ITEM.

WE DID HEAR THAT AT LEAST ONE RESIDENT WAS OPPOSED TO REMOVING STREET PARKING ALONG THE HOME SIDE OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

WE RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OTHER TREATMENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DID LOOK INTO. OF PARTICULAR NOTE ARE THESE SORT OF DO NOT ENTER AND ARROW PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT ARE ONLY VISIBLE IN ONE DIRECTION.

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CALTRANS APPLIED FOR AN EXPERIMENT TO DO THIS.

SO EVERYTHING WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE CALIFORNIA MUTCD THAT GOVERNS ALL STRIPING SIGNAGE.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE SEE ON OUR STREETS FOR CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY.

ANYTIME WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICIAL GUIDANCE, WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR AN EXPERIMENT.

AND SO CALTRANS APPLIED TO ANOTHER STATE AGENCY TO TO RUN THIS TYPE OF EXPERIMENT.

AND THEY DID NOT SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH THAT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PHOTOS.

SO THEY FORMALLY ENDED THAT EXPERIMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CALTRANS IS DOING.

AND NEITHER YOU KNOW, THAT EXPERIMENT NEVER APPLIED TO REDONDO BEACH.

SO WE NEVER HAD THE ABILITY TO PIGGYBACK OFF OTHER AGENCIES EXPERIMENTS.

BUT IN ANY CASE, THESE THESE TREATMENTS ARE PLACED ON LIMIT LINES.

AND YOU NEED A WHITE CONTRASTING BACKGROUND. THEY DON'T APPLY IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THESE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, A STOP SIGN OR A SIGNAL SOLELY FOR THAT FRONTAGE ROAD APPROACH, WHICH ISN'T EXACTLY APPLICABLE HERE.

SO THIS SUMMARIZES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION. RECOMMENDATION IS TO PRESENT THESE TO FOR US TO INSTALL THESE STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS AS PRESENTED.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE NATURE OF THE OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND HOW IT SHOULD OPERATE.

WE'RE JUST REINFORCING THOSE THE EXISTING REGULATIONS.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OR PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE ALTERED. AND WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS TO THAT.

PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ONLINE OR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE, AUDIENCE AND PUBLIC COMMENT, OR HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO IT? I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CARDS, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD.

YEAH, IT'S EASIER.

I'M AN ENGINEER AND AN ECONOMIST AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF.

COULD YOU PUT THE PHOTO BACK UP? IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER TO JUST WORK OFF THAT.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND. THAT'S OKAY. WE'LL GUESS.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND. OKAY. SO THIS IS THIS IS LIKE, THE CURRENT PROBLEM.

OKAY. WE HAVE CARS PARKED ON THE STREET POINTED SOUTH.

AND WHAT THEY SAY IS TURNING LEFT IS JUST FINE.

OKAY. THIS IS THE SINGLE LARGEST SIGN AT, YOU KNOW, 05,000 POUNDS YOU'RE EVER GOING TO SEE.

I'VE LIVED IN THE INTERSECTION FOR 35 YEARS. THE ONE WAY, THE ONE WAY PROBLEM IS EXCLUSIVELY 90% ILLEGAL LEFT TURNS COMING OFF BIG PROSPECT BECAUSE BIG PROSPECT HAS NO U-TURNS.

SO WE'RE THE OUTLET VALVE FOR THAT. IT TAKES SEVEN SECONDS FROM THE TIME THAT YOU'RE IN THE LEFT TURN LANE ON PROSPECT, AND IT TURNS GREEN FOR YOU TO BE GOING THE WRONG WAY DOWN THE FRONTAGE.

SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF CONSIDERED THOUGHT HERE.

THEY SEE THOSE CARS POINTED SOUTH. BOTH OF THEM.

AND AT THAT POINT, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S FOUR OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE PARKED BEHIND THE DRIVEWAY BEHIND IT, TOO.

BUT THEY SEE THAT AND THEY ALL MAKE A DECISION THAT, OH, WELL, I CAN'T DO A U-TURN ON PROSPECT, BUT I DAMN SURE CAN GO DOWN THE FRONTAGE. SO THAT'S HOW THIS HAPPENS.

I'VE GOT A TERABYTE OF VIDEO DATA THAT NOBODY WANTED TO LOOK AT, BUT I'VE GOT EVERYTHING GOING DOWN HERE.

I MEAN, WE CLOCK ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED ZERO PARKING PLACES.

THERE ARE 68 ON-STREET PARKING PLACES ON THIS STREET FOR 27 HOUSES.

SO WE'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF PARKING PLACES PER HOUSE.

WE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST PARKING RICH STREET THAT I'VE EVER SEEN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT NO HOUSES ON ONE SIDE.

RIGHT. SO THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE OF DO WE KEEP 1.5% OF THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SPACE STOCK. THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST A CONVENIENCE ISSUE.

SECONDLY, I GUESS THE LITTLE DOTS ARE YOUR CURRENT STANDARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE PAST A PAIR OF DO NOT ENTER SIGNS, THEY DRIVE PAST TWO, NO U-TURN SIGNS, AND THEN THEY GO DOWN THE WRONG WAY.

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SO OH, ONE MORE POINT. WE NEED ABOUT ANOTHER TEN FEET OF RED CURB BEHIND THE 20FT OF RED CURB THAT YOU'VE PUT IN NEXT TO THE BUS STOP.

THE BUS STOP IS INVISIBLE, CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF IT YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

ANDY LESSER, DOCTOR ANDY LESSER, TO BE FAIR, WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TALKED ABOUT THE URINE AND FECES AND THE GARBAGE AND STUFF THAT THAT ACCRUES AT BUS STOPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THEM ON TOP OF THAT.

LA PUBLIC WORKS HAS PREVIOUSLY TOLD US THAT THERE WERE CHILD PREDATOR INVESTIGATIONS ON THE STREET, AND THEY NOW PUT EXTRA LIGHTS ON THOSE INJECTION WELLS.

TIME. CAN I EXTEND. A MOTION TO EXTEND ONE MINUTE.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

THANK YOU. SO WHEN THEY PUT THE BIG INJECTION, WELL, TANKS THERE, THEY PUT BIG EXTRA LIGHTS ON THEM.

THE LIGHTS ARE ANNOYING, BUT AT LEAST THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.

SO WE REALLY WANT VISIBILITY INTO THAT. INTO THAT BUS STOP.

RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE UC SYSTEM DID A STUDY OF BUS STOPS, AND THEY LITERALLY SAID THAT VISIBILITY IS THE KEY FACTOR FOR SAFETY IN THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND BUS STOPS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NO LONGER SEEING THOSE ENCLOSURES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH, BECAUSE THEY JUST TURN INTO HOUSING. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS ON AND OFF.

I'VE BEEN A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER AND I'VE BOUGHT A LOT OF ROAD.

YOU KNOW, COMES WITH THE PROJECTS. ALSO, MY FATHER DIED.

LINE OF DUTY. OKAY. SO I COME FROM AN LEO FAMILY.

AND PUBLIC CONVENIENCE IS NOT WHAT WE DID. YOU KNOW, THAT GAVE UP FAMILY MEMBERS FOR.

RIGHT? THIS IS JUST A PURE SAFETY ISSUE. DUMP THE SPOTS IN FRONT.

TIME. GIVE US A LITTLE MORE RED CURB. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I'LL [INAUDIBLE] GOT, I THINK, PLENTY OF THESE TO GO AROUND.

WE NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. OKAY. MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU.

I LOVE MY EPSON TANK PRINTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE DO HAVE A HAND RAISED ON ZOOM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. BERNARD, YOU CAN SPEAK.

HELLO. THIS IS BERNARD SPEAKING. WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY, GOOD. BERNARD DUBOIS, 513 PROSPECT AVENUE.

SO YEAH, I GOT THE THE PICTURE OF HOW YOU WANT TO DO ALL THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING, WHICH LOOKS GOOD.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'VE MADE MY CURB, THE ONLY PARKING SPOT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE RED.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A PROBLEM FOR ME. AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS, WHOEVER COMES TO VISIT MY HOUSE.

I'VE WONDERED ABOUT THIS STREET EVER SINCE I'VE MOVED HERE.

SINCE 2004. I BOUGHT MY HOUSE HERE. I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY IT WAS ONE WAY, ONE WAY, ONE SIDE AND NOT THE OTHER.

WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST GET RID OF THIS ONE WAY AND PUT A RIGHT HAND TURN DOWN AT THE SOUTH END OF THE STREET? JUST A SUGGESTION. JUST THE THOUGHT. I KNOW YOU'VE, MR. LIU PUT A LOT INTO THIS. THERE WAS JUST ANOTHER IDEA THAT I CAME UP WITH JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE WAY STREET.

SO THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST FALTERS WITH THIS IDEA.

I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING CHANGED TO HELP GUIDE TRAFFIC BACK OUT ONTO PROSPECT INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN THE ONE WAY STREET.

BUT EVEN OUR OWN RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE STREET DRIVE THE WRONG WAY ON THE ONE WAY.

SO. AND THEY PARK THEIR CARS THE OPPOSITE WAY, SO THEY'RE POINTED DOWNHILL TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

HOPEFULLY THAT THEY WON'T PAINT MY CURB RED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, SINCE THAT'S THE ONLY PARKING THAT IS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

OTHERWISE, I HAVE TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET OF THE MEDIUM THAT WE HAVE HERE.

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THERE'S ANOTHER HAND.

GO AHEAD. LIZ. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. THE 500 PROSPECT T INTERSECTION IS ALSO HEAVILY USED BY PEDESTRIANS, SUCH AS THE VULNERABLE, ELDERLY AND CHILDREN, AS WELL AS A BUSTLING AREA FOR THE BUS STOP AND SERVING AS A WALKWAY AND CROSSWALK.

THE PEDESTRIANS ALREADY HAVE TO NAVIGATE E-BIKES AND KIDS PLAYING ON SCOOTERS, SKATEBOARDS, AND THE LAST THING THEY NEED IS PARKED CARS. IN THE INTERSECTION, CONGESTION IT FURTHER IMPAIRING VISIBILITY WHEN CROSSING THE FRONTAGE.

FOR THOSE TOP PRIORITY SAFETY REASONS, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THIS INTERSECTION BE IS UNCLUTTERED AND AS SIMPLIFIED AS POSSIBLE.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ADVISE AGAINST PARKING IN THE T INTERSECTION, ESPECIALLY VEHICLES POINTED THE WRONG DIRECTION.

IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION LEGALLY, BUT IT'S THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR U TURNERS TO GO THE WRONG DIRECTION.

I KNOW THAT'S COMPLICATED. THE INTERSECTION IS COMPLICATED.

SO BOTTOM LINE, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF NON MOTORISTS THAT USE THIS AREA, AND IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THEY'VE BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL.

THERE'S A BUS STOP, BCHD USERS, PEDESTRIANS, BIKERS, CHILDREN'S PLAYING, MOMS WITH STROLLERS, ELDERLY WITH WALKERS, SO FORTH. HAS THEIR SAFETY BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL? IF IT HAD, THE NOTION OF FURTHER CLUTTERING IT WITH PARKING IN THE INTERSECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCARDED IMMEDIATELY.

THAT INTERSECTION IS TOO NARROW AND TOO COMPLEX AND TOO CONFUSING AS IT IS, WE'VE GOT DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH THIS INTERSECTION.

DIRECT WITNESSES OF THE U-TURN CHAOS. [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN QUANTIFY THIS.

THE EXPERIENCES, IF YOU'D LIKE. GRATEFULLY, GRATEFULLY.

YOU SAW THE ERROR IN THE LAST PLAN TO TAKE AWAY OUR PROTECTED LEFT TURN.

PLEASE SEE THE ERROR IN THIS PLAN. GET RID OF THE PARKING SPACE.

PUT UP SIGNAGE THAT SAYS NO LEFT TURN. GET RID OF A CAR THAT IS PARKED FACING.

INDICATING LEFT TURNS. ITS RIDICULOUS. SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE REJECT THIS PLAN.

REJECT THE PARKING SPOT THAT POINTS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

WHICH IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YEP. THAT'S CONFUSING.

THAT'S WHY WE GET SO MANY ILLEGAL U-TURNS AGAIN.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS.

NO OTHER HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. AND FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS TWO E-COMMENTS IN SUPPORT.

OKAY. I'M SORRY THEY SUPPORT. YOU SAID. IN SUPPORT OF THE STRIPING ENHANCEMENTS.

STRIPING ENHANCEMENTS.

QUICK QUESTION. SO RYAN, IN THE SUGGESTED STRIPING FOR THAT LEFT TURN INTO THE FRONTAGE STREET, YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING ANY LIKE FLEXIBLE DELINEATORS, RIGHT? IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. SO IT'S JUST MARKING ON THE STREET.

NO DELINEATOR OR PYLONS. THAT'S CORRECT. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS JUST STRIPING.

NOW, THE COMMISSION COULD RECOMMEND DELINEATORS.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RAMIFICATIONS.

BUT OFF THE TOP OF THE BAT, YOU KNOW, ANY DELINEATION WE PUT IN THE STREET ITSELF WOULD HAMPER STREET SWEEPING.

LEAVING, WHERE WAS THE CAR THAT WAS PARKED THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PARKING PLACE FOR? SO SO THEY'RE REFERRING TO I THINK THE GREEN IS YEAH.

THE GREEN. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO RED CURB BETWEEN IN THIS STRETCH.

SO YOU CAN TECHNICALLY PARK ABOUT TWO SMALLER VEHICLES.

WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IS TO PRESERVE ONE SPACE DEFINITIVELY FOR ANY MOST SIZE VEHICLES TO PARK.

AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, WAS TO NOT ADD RED CURB.

AND ANOTHER WAS TO, YOU KNOW, PUT RED CURB ENTIRELY THROUGH THIS AREA.

I THINK ONE REACTION TO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS RED CURBED ENTIRELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RESIDENTS DID SPEAK ABOUT THIS U-TURN MOVEMENT WHILE IT IS PROHIBITED.

YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME EVIDENCE, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF THAT OCCURRING.

IF THIS SPACE WAS CLEAR AND, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY RED CURB, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE IT PHYSICALLY MORE POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT U-TURN BECAUSE,

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SO IF WE CLEARED THIS OUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED SOME ADDITIONAL STRIPING.

YOU KNOW, OTHER ENHANCEMENTS, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THOSE DELINEATORS TO REALLY SHOW THAT THIS U-TURN IS NOT POSSIBLE.

75% OF THE TIME THERE'S CARS THERE.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF FEET NEEDED FOR A TWO LANE STREET? I SEE IN SOME OF THE PAPERWORK THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE SUBMITTED THAT 26FT IS TOO NARROW.

WHAT IS THE TYPICAL WIDTH? I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY WANT ABOUT AT LEAST 36FT.

SO TWO, EIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TWO EIGHT FOOT PARKING LANES ON EITHER SIDE, YOU WANT AN ADDITIONAL 20FT.

SO YEAH, ABOUT 36FT OR UP IN NORTH REDONDO OUR TYPICAL 28 FOOT STREETS IS EIGHT FOOT PARKING ON ONE SIDE AND TWO TEN FOOT LANES ON EITHER.

SO AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FRONTAGE ROAD NORTH OF HERE, IT IS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 26, 28FT.

WHILE WE HAVE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, WE DO ALLOW TWO WAY TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S REALLY A NEGOTIATION. YOU KNOW SOME, IF THERE IS ONCOMING TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS GENERALLY ONE SIDE PULLS INTO THE SIDE WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKED CARS OR AN AREA WHERE THERE'S DRIVEWAYS AND THAT, THAT IT'S A NEGOTIATION. AND AS WE CAN SEE, THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE NOT THAT HIGH ON A GIVEN DAY.

SO THE AMOUNT OF CONFLICTS BETWEEN OPPOSING DRIVERS GENERALLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT HIGH.

OKAY. AND THEN HAVE YOU GUYS JUST DISCUSSED CLOSING BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SMALL STREET AND THERE'S THREE OPENINGS, WHICH IS PRETTY UNIQUE. MOST STREETS HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

HAVE YOU GUYS EVER DISCUSSED CLOSING ONE OPENING? ONE OPENING IS CAUSING SO MUCH DRAMA. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE PROPOSAL IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING WAS TO TEST OUT, YOU KNOW, USING BARRICADES TO BLOCK OFF ENTRY HERE BECAUSE THERE'S STILL ENTRY CLOSER TO BERYL, CLOSER TO DIAMOND. RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE THE, ONE OF THE RECENT PUBLIC COMMENT ALLUDED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GLAD THAT THAT WASN'T CLOSED.

SO THAT WAS A PROPOSAL WE PRESENTED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT THE COMMISSION CHOSE NOT TO PURSUE THAT FURTHER.

THEY WERE GLAD IT WASN'T CLOSED BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, WHAT WAS WHAT? I JUST WANT TO LEARN WHY? I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE ACCESS TO THE STREET AT THAT SIGNAL.

AT THAT SPECIFIC SIGNAL, EVEN THOUGH ADMITTEDLY, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR ACCESS AT DIAMOND.

OKAY. AND THEN HAVE YOU GUYS EVER DISCUSSED DOING A NO OUTLET ON ONE OF THE INS? I KNOW YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THE OPENING HERE AT DIAMOND AND I GUESS THE MIDDLE OF PROSPECT, BUT HAVE YOU GUYS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT CLOSING ONE OF THE ENDS, LIKE DOING A NEW OUTLET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, WE DID NOT PROPOSE CLOSING OFF, YOU KNOW, THE BERYL SIDE OR THE DIAMOND SIDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO MORE CIRCULATION CHANGES UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

SO I THINK IF THERE WAS AN OPENING THAT WE FELT WAS EASIEST TO CLOSE, IT WAS IT WAS THIS MIDDLE ONE GOING IN.

AND HOW MUCH OPPOSITION DID YOU RECEIVE? PLENTY OF COMMENTS.

ONE COMMENT. I BELIEVE ONE PERSON SPOKE IN OPPOSITION OF OR AT LEAST ONE PERSON SPOKE IN OPPOSITION OF, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TESTING OUT THIS THIS CLOSURE, REALLY JUST ONE OPPOSITION.

YOU GUYS DIDN'T PURSUE IT. THE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LEFT TURN LANE.

YEAH. SO SO CLOSING LEFT TURN FROM BIG PROSPECT TO.

YEAH. AND IT WAS. YEAH. AT THE AT THE LAST DISCUSSION THE COMMISSION VOTED NOT TO DO A TRIAL.

IT WASN'T SOMETHING YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST THROW UP ON OUR OWN.

OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN, SORRY, JUST TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RED.

I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

YOU WANT TO ADD RED SO PEOPLE DON'T PARK THERE, BUT YOU ARE WORRIED THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO MORE U-TURNS BECAUSE NOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OPEN. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, A BIT OF BOTH.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE RED IS PROPOSING THIS IMAGE IS SO THAT IF A CAR WAS PARKED THERE, IT WOULD BE PARKED EXACTLY IN BETWEEN ALL THE OTHER STRIPING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY CAR THAT'S DRIVING BY WILL SEE THE STRIPING. IF WE DID NOT ADD ANY RED HERE, THEN, AND WE ALLOWED THE PARKING TO CONTINUE AS EXISTING, A PARKED CAR WOULD PROBABLY COVER SOME OF THAT STRIPING.

OKAY. AND AND YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE SENSITIVITY OF OUR PARKING, WE WERE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING LOTS TO, YOU KNOW, TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS HERE, BUT AS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT IS STATING THAT, YOU KNOW,

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OKAY. COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE, PLEASE, ON SOME OF THOSE SIDE EFFECTS IF IT WERE TO ALL BE RED? IF IT WERE ALL TO BE RED. YOU KNOW THAT REMOVING THE POSSIBILITY FOR ANY CAR TO BE PARKED THERE DOES CREATE A WIDER OPEN SPACE PHYSICALLY.

AND SO IF THERE WERE A DRIVER WANTING TO MAKE THAT ILLEGAL U-TURN AND GO THE WRONG WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO MAKE A THREE POINT TURN TO DO SO.

THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE IT IN ONE MANEUVER. AND TO SOME PEOPLE, THAT COULD BE ENCOURAGING.

THERE'S NOTHING. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE ORDER.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

I'M JUST THINKING OF DELINEATORS WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES.

PREVENT THE PEOPLE FROM GOING ONE WAY. PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE.

SO CAN YOU DEFINE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT DELINEATIONS ARE AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY.

YEAH. SO THE DELINEATORS ARE GENERALLY THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN STOCK ARE THOSE FLEXIBLE POSTS.

YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE HITS THEM THEY'LL PROBABLY SCRATCH UP THEIR CAR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY ARE FLEXIBLE.

WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES OF SORT OF THOSE SMALL DOME TYPE DELINEATORS DOWN AT DIAMOND AND PROSPECT AND YOU KNOW, THEY HELP GUIDE VEHICLES AWAY FROM CERTAIN AREAS, YOU KNOW, FORCING A TURN SO THEY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING THE PARKING ENCOURAGING THE DESIRED TURNING MANEUVERS. BUT FROM OUR EXPERIENCE THEY DO NEED SOME REPLACEMENT FROM TIME TO TIME.

THE TALLER THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GET SCUFFED UP, THEY DO NEED REGULAR REPLACEMENT.

AND OUR STREET SWEEPER CANNOT GO OVER THOSE. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT RESIDENTS PREFER THESE DELINEATORS OVER NO RIGHT HAND, I MEAN, NO LEFT HAND TURN. I THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE DELINEATORS ISN'T RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. YEAH, OKAY. I SEE. I THINK RESIDENTS WOULD BE MORE FRUSTRATED OVER THAT.

LIKE THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT WOULD BE MORE FRUSTRATING TO TRY TO GET TO THEIR HOME WITH THOSE, I THINK. THEN I KNOW, LEFT HAND TURN. BUT YEAH, I THINK IF THERE WERE IF THERE WERE DELINEATORS PLACED HERE, WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, PUT THEM, WE WOULD NOT BLOCK ANYONE'S DRIVEWAY, BUT THEY MIGHT FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THIS WHITE STRIPE HERE. AND THEN ADDING A FEW MORE WHERE THIS PARK, YOU KNOW, PARKED CAR WOULD BE.

SO YOU WOULD CREATE SORT OF A BIT OF A TRAPEZOID SHAPE HERE WITH DELINEATIONS.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO EXTEND THE CURB THAT'S ON PROSPECT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ONLY ALLOW FOR A ONE WAY TURN IN.

JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO WAY TRAFFIC GOING.

RIGHT. YOU GOT OKAY, I'M REALLY BAD WITH DIRECTIONS.

SO I'M GOING TO SO YOU HAVE TRAFFIC GOING SOUTH.

THAT MAKES A RIGHT. RIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD ON THE.

I'M SORRY, ON PROSPECT. ON SAME PROSPECT. PROSPECT, YOU CAN MAKE A RIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT. AND YOU ARE FORCED TO MAKE ANOTHER OKAY.

RIGHT. BASICALLY A RIGHT U-TURN. SO IF WE WERE TO EXTEND THAT CURB OUT AND WE DIDN'T ALLOW FOR ANY RIGHT HAND TURNS, WOULD THAT BE PROBLEMATIC. HAVE YOU HEARD ANY.

SO IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR ON THE SCREEN SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS TURN RIGHT HERE.

YES. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THAT TURN. SO IF WE REMOVE THIS TURN HERE, THEN WE'RE CLOSING OFF THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TURN LEFT EITHER. GOT IT. SO? SO THAT BRINGS US BACK TO MAYBE IT JUST ENCOURAGES THE TRAFFIC ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD. I'M JUST TRYING TO PROBLEM SOLVE. NO. YEAH.

NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IF WE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WE WANT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT EASY. RIGHT NOW. IT'S WIDE OPEN AND PEOPLE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE STREET AND USE THE PATHWAY. RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I THINK THE PROBLEM HERE IS THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY'RE GOING DOWN THIS WAY TO, TO THIS PART.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET HERE IS SOLUTIONS.

SO THEY DON'T DO SO. AND THAT THEY ARE MAKING THE ONLY TURN AVAILABLE WHICH IS TO GO UP BACK TOWARDS BERYL.

YEAH ON A TWO WAY STREET. WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS PEOPLE ARE COMING AND MAKING A LEFT AND GOING ILLEGALLY DOWN THE ONE WAY PORTION OF THE.

CORRECT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, TRYING TO SET THIS STUFF UP TO STOP THAT OR TO PREVENT THAT.

YEAH. HOW LONG IS THAT ONE WAY. OH SORRY. COMMISSIONER.

FOR THAT. NEXT COMMISSIONER BEELI. THANK YOU.

WITH THE IDEA OF DELINEATORS. WHAT IF WE PUT ON THE YELLOW THE YELLOW DOUBLE LINES THERE AND ALSO THE YELLOW PERFORATED LINE AS WELL?

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SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PERSON WHO LIVES HERE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY.

WE MIGHT WE MAY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SUCCESS PUTTING SOME DELINEATORS IN THE MIDDLE HERE, BUT THOSE WILL PROBABLY BE THE ONES THAT WILL GET HIT THE MOST.

UNTIL THE DRIVERS LEARN NOT TO DO THAT. THERE MIGHT BE SOME DELIVERY TRUCKS THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CLEAN SWEEP.

YOU KNOW, SAY A DELIVERY TRUCK COMING DOWN, PROSPECT COMING, TRYING TO COME INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND SERVE THE HOMES GOING UP.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT. THEY MIGHT PROBABLY COME IN ON THE BERYL SIDE. BUT GENERALLY WE PROBABLY WANT TO KEEP THIS CLEAR OF DELINEATORS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, LOWER THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE COSTS TO HAVE OR REPLACE THOSE.

I THINK IF THERE WERE DELINEATORS TO, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IT, WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO THE HOME SIDE TO AGAIN LIKE FORCE THAT ONE WAY.

BUT ANYTHING WE PUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, ESPECIALLY WITH A STREET OF THIS WIDTH, WILL RISK GETTING HIT REPEATEDLY. OKAY, RYAN, HOW LONG IS THAT ONE WAY STREET BEEN? ONE WAY. WE LOOKED AT THAT. ACTUALLY, WE DO NOT KNOW.

YEAH, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE WAY FOR. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT WERE THE REASONS TO TURN IT ONE WAY.

IS IT BECAUSE OF MAYBE PREVENTING. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE CURRENT ONE WAY PROBABLY PREVENTS A LOT OF THAT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM HAPPENING. SAY, IF IT WERE TWO WAY, ALL THE WAY DOWN THE DIAMOND, THEN, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICALLY, SOMEONE WHO'S WAITING FOR A RED LIGHT AT BCHD OR AT DIAMOND, THEY CAN JUST CUT IN BEFORE BERYL AND THEN JUST START GOING DOWN AND THEY GET TO SKIP TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS. AND SO THIS ONE WAY PREVENTS THAT.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER HAND RAISED IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

YES, PLEASE. GO AHEAD. YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

HEY, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS STEVEN ANDERSON.

APOLOGIES. I COULDN'T BE THERE TONIGHT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO THANK RYAN FOR HIS EFFORT ON THIS, JUST TO REMIND THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY OPTION THAT CAN BE ALTERED IN THE EVENT THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THE DESIRED RESULTS.

THIS ISN'T PERMANENT. WE CAN COME BACK AND SEE HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING AFTER A FEW MONTHS.

IS ONE THING. AND THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO COMMENT ON WAS THAT THROUGH SOME OF THE BLUE FOLDER COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE BACKGROUND DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON BETWEEN THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE CITY IS JUST MAYBE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT A SOUND WALL DOES COME UP AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, THAT THAT BE A PROP 218 DISCUSSION ELEMENT, BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT IS A SPECIFIC SOLUTION TO THESE RESIDENTS.

NOT SAYING IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA, BUT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD INVESTIGATE AS A POTENTIAL OPTION TO FUND A SOUND WALL.

THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU. I SEE THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAD SHARED IN THE ATTACHMENT, THE K RAIL BARRIER.

HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED THAT? SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS PURELY ABOUT THE TREATMENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING RELATED TO ALONG THE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF.

THERE WAS THERE WAS A, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE K RAIL OPTION WHERE THE PARKING SPACES.

SO THERE WAS THAT. YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT WOULD BE LIKE INSTEAD OF DELINEATOR, THE K RAIL AT THAT LOCATION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY THAT CERTAINLY HAS THE MOST VISUAL IMPACT.

I IMAGINE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE DON'T WANT TO SEE A PIECE OF K RAIL RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IF IT LOOKS LIKE A CONSTRUCTION SITE.

BUT IT WOULD BE A HARD BARRIER. OKAY. YEAH. AND IS THE RESIDENT THE HOME THAT THIS IMPACTS? ARE THEY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY? HE WAS ON ZOOM.

HE PARTICIPATED ON ZOOM. HE WAS ON ZOOM. OKAY.

YEAH. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

CAN WE CALL THEM UP AGAIN TO ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS? IS THAT CLARIFYING? CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? YES.

CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. PARTICIPATING. YES. MARK NELSON.

COME BACK TO YOU BOTH. I BELIEVE IT WAS BERNARD OKAY. WHO DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM FIRST? SURE.

WE'LL HEAR FROM MARK NELSON. ONE. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THE BLOCKAGE? I KNOW THAT THIS BLOCKS YOUR HOME. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THE BLOCKAGE? I'M FINE WITHOUT THE PARKING. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE,

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THE ONLY SIDEWALK, REMEMBER, IS ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

YEAH, NO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER. SO EVERYBODY USES THE ONE WAY SEGMENT AS A SIDEWALK AS WELL.

IT'S GOT BIKES. IT'S GOT MOBILITY SCOOTERS CRUISING DOWN IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN MAKE IT UP IT, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, IT GETS USED A LOT.

AND WHEN THESE CARS COME IN, THEY'RE COMING IN OUT OF THE PROTECTED LEFT TURN LANE THAT EVERYBODY SCREAMED ABOUT.

SERIOUSLY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S NOT GOING TO GO FOR SHUTTING THAT DOWN, BUT YOU'RE MAKING THAT LEFT.

AND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THAT LEFT AS A PROTECTED TURN, THERE'S CARS THERE ALL THE TIME AND THEY COME BLASTING THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S NO PROBLEM.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A THREE POINT U-TURN THERE.

SO SORRY. I JUST WANT TO ASK A COUPLE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS SO WE DON'T GET IN TROUBLE. SO YOUR PREFERENCE IS THAT YOU DON'T MIND EITHER OPTION? I'M FINE WITH RED CURBING IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FIRST OFF, I DON'T THINK THIS WORKS.

WHICH IS YOUR PREFERENCE. I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST. RED CURB.

OKAY. IS BERNARD STILL ON THE LINE? YES. ONE DOESN'T WANT IT.

HE DOES NOT WANT A RED CURB. OH MY GOD, BERNARD, HE DOESN'T WANT IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE PARKING SPOT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. I DON'T WANT A RED CURB.

OKAY. BERNARD, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THE K-RAIL? WELL, THE K-RAIL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT K RAIL, WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO PUT THE K RAIL.

IF THAT'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THAT WOULD EVEN BE WORSE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD STILL LOSE THE PARKING.

YEAH, AND IT WOULD LOOK HIDEOUS. AND OF COURSE, LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR WHAT OUR VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER ALL THIS.

OKAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK VERY GOOD. THE OTHER THE ONLY, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A K RAIL FOR.

WE'RE UP FURTHER DOWN ON THE 500 BLOCK TOWARDS THE 600 AREA OF THE OF THE BLOCK.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WALL, A SIX FOOT WALL TO DIVERT NOISE AND HELP SAFETY AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

I MEAN, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO THIS INTERSECTION, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BREAK THE LAW.

THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THE BIKES COME DOWN HERE.

THE BIKES WERE MORE PREVALENT ON DIAMOND GOING UP TO SCHOOL TO REDONDO HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH I GRADUATED IN 1975.

BUT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN REALLY DO TO THIS CORNER.

OKAY. I CAN TURN MY VEHICLES AROUND THE OPPOSITE WAY.

THEN I WOULD BE GETTING A PARKING TICKET BECAUSE I'M PARKED THE OPPOSITE WAY.

NOW, IF I CAN PARK MY VEHICLE HEADING NORTH, THEN IT MIGHT NOT LOOK SO GOOD BECAUSE I'M COMING UP FROM A ONE WAY STREET AND IT LOOKS LIKE, I'M THE WHOLE STREET SHOULD BE A ONE WAY STREET, WHICH IT'S NOT.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE SO YOU HAVE UP TO THE NO PARKING SIGN ON FRIDAY, THAT SIGN THAT'S IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IN FRONT OF MARK'S HOUSE. YOU SHOULD PARK YOUR CAR FACING THE ONE WAY, OPPOSITE WAY, BECAUSE I'M GETTING CONFUSED.

WAIT A MINUTE. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GONE OVER YOUR PUBLIC SPEAKING TIME, DO YOU? SORRY. NO. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND YOUR PREFERENCE, BECAUSE YOUR TWO HOMES ARE THE MOST IMPACTED, AND NOT THAT I WOULD GIVE PREFERENCE OVER ANY OF THAT.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE AND THIS IS JUST A YES OR NO QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THE LEFT TURN, LEFT HAND TURN LANE OR EXTENDING THE CURB TO PREVENT LESS TRAFFIC FROM COMING INTO THAT INTERSECTION.

WELL, EXTENDING THE CURB WOULD BE AN IDEA. I THINK SIGNAGE COMING DOWN FROM THE NORTH AREA OF PROSPECT ON THE MAIN STREET HEADING SOUTH. IF YOU HAVE A NO RIGHT TURN TO THAT ENTRANCE, THAT MIGHT HELP BECAUSE IT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE. THEY DON'T TURN.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TURN RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION.

RIGHT. GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE INTERSECTION, SOUTH END, AND MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN AND COME BACK UP.

BECAUSE OF THE ONE WAY RIGHT? SIGNAGE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST HELP, I THINK, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF ADDITIONAL MITIGATION FOR TURNING TO AVOID TRAFFIC ON YOUR STREET, RIGHT? CORRECT. RIGHT. CORRECT. CORRECT. AND MARK.

YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE? I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE ON MITIGATION? ON MITIGATION ON SIGNS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BARRIERS RIGHT NOW, BUT ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF ANY MITIGATION OR SIGNS, ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT GO UP TO PREVENT TRAFFIC FROM COMING IN? THE ONLY SIGN THAT I CAN IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS TO FOLLOW THE DOUBLE YELLOWS DOWN TO THE END OF THE RED AND PUT A NO

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IT'S THE LEFT TURN TO GO SOUTHBOUND ON ONE WAY, THE WRONG WAY.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE A NO LEFT TURN SIGN. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S INEVITABLE.

WHERE WOULD THAT. WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THAT? THERE'S.

WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A RIGHT NOW THERE'S A ONE WAY SIGN.

YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS A PARKED CAR HERE NARROWS THE OPENING.

IF YOU FOLLOW THAT BLUE ARROW RIGHT ABOUT THERE.

THERE'S A ONE WAY SIGN. EIGHT FEET UP IN THE AIR, POINTED NORTH.

NOW, MIND YOU, IT'S NOT ONE WAY AT THAT POINT.

BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAD TO PUT THE SIGN.

THAT'S TRYING TO SUGGEST THAT THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH IS ONE WAY.

THAT WAY? YEAH. OKAY. BUT THAT'S ROUGHLY THE AREA.

I MEAN, IDEALLY IT WOULD KIND OF NEED TO BE WHERE LIKE A DOUBLE YELLOW, DOUBLE YELLOW AND DOUBLE YELLOWS ARE.

YEAH. UP CLOSE. UP FRONT. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH SPEED GOING THROUGH THIS FRONTAGE.

ACCORDING TO THE RESIDENCES, IF THERE ARE, PEOPLE ARE FLYING THROUGH HERE. ACCORDING TO THE RESIDENTS, THERE IS THERE ARE SPEED ISSUES. USUALLY WHEN I SEE SPEED, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DOING 40 IN A 25.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO BY THE WAY, THERE'S NO SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.

SO IT'S JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OLD SPANISH CUSTOM 25.

HAS ANYONE CONTEMPLATING PUTTING STOP SIGNS ON EITHER SIDE, THE FRONT AND THE SOUTH ON THE FRONTAGE JUST TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC BEFORE THEY MAKE A TURN IN AND OUT. ARE WE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARK. SORRY. THANK YOU. SO YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT ADDING SOME SOME STOP SIGNS HERE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CONSIDERED BECAUSE OF HOW UNUSUAL THIS INTERSECTION IS.

YOU CAN CONTROL THE FLOW A BIT. YOU'RE LESSENING HAZARDS, RIGHT? OF PEOPLE TURNING AND SOMEONE COMING THROUGH.

BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE HEARING IS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADDED A STOP SIGN ON THIS NORTHBOUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY STOPPING TO? WHO'S YIELDING TO, WHO IS YIELDING TO WHO, IS NOT VERY CLEAR.

AND YOU KNOW, IS IT AN ALL WAY STOP OR YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FORCE A VEHICLE WHO IS, YOU KNOW, HALFWAY ACROSS THE MEDIAN TO STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S ALSO THE SAME, YOU KNOW, COMPLICATION BY ADDING ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TO THIS INTERSECTION IS ANY OF THE SIGNAGE THAT PARTICULARLY RELATES TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD CANNOT BE SEEN FROM THE BREACHED DRIVEWAY. SO IF YOU HAVE A NO LEFT TURN SIGN OR NO RIGHT TURN SIGN, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF SOMEONE FROM BCHD'S TRYING TO EXIT ONTO MAIN PROSPECT AND THEY SEE A BIG NO LEFT TURN SIGN, THEY MIGHT THINK IT APPLIES TO GOING ON TO THE BIG STREET, NOT THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THE DO NOT ENTER AND THE ONE WAY SIGNS ARE PLACED AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE AND CLOSEST TO THE HOME SIDE SO THAT THEY DON'T APPLY TO THE MAIN INTERSECTION OR PROSPECT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS COMMISSION AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND DID NOT WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF CLOSING THIS OPENING OFF.

IT JUST THIS IS SO COMPLICATED. THERE'S SO MANY PROBLEMS, SO MUCH TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN THESE RESIDENTS.

IS THERE ANY INSIGHT YOU GUYS CAN GIVE ME BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THE MEETING.

[LAUGHTER]. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW ABOUT ANY SIGNAGE THAT ILLUMINATES, YOU KNOW, FOR, LIKE, WARNING THAT'S NOT LIKE ILLUMINATED ON THE RESIDENTS SIDE IS THAT, DO THEY HAVE ANY TYPE OF SIGNAGE LIKE THAT? THAT'S VERY YOU KNOW, WARNING SIGNS THAT ILLUMINATE, ALMOST LIKE THE FLASHING STOP SIGNS, BUT NOT TWO WAY, JUST ONE WAY WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULDN'T HAVE TO TO SEE IT.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH THOSE FLASHING SIGNS IS THAT THEY ARE LEDS.

SO IT CAN BE DISTRACTING TO SOME PEOPLE. IT'S IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BY THIS. SO WE ARE VERY JUDICIOUS ON THE INSTALLATION OF FLASHING SIGNS BECAUSE WE GET WE GET VERY MIXED REACTIONS FROM THOSE.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE.

AND THOSE SIGNS DO HAVE A COST. AND WE HAVE TO WAIT.

WE ONLY WANT TO USE THOSE TYPES OF FLASHING SIGNS IN THE MOST, YOU KNOW, DIRE AND UNUSUAL OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, MIGHT, MIGHT BE. BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THIS, THAT THE TRAFFIC LEVELS ON THE STREET ARE NOT VERY HIGH EITHER.

THEY'RE LOW WITH AN AVERAGE OF 25 MILES AN HOUR, LIKE YOU SAID, OR 24.

YEAH 24MPH. AND THEN THAT'S ABOUT 75 VEHICLES PER DAY.

YEAH. SO WHAT'S BEFORE US

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RIGHT. AND ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DID NOT PROPOSE DELINEATORS AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO THE DELINEATORS.

BUT IF THAT WANTS TO BE PART OF THE MOTION THAT'S WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY THOSE OUT.

I THINK THE STREET MARKINGS WILL WORK. WHAT WAS THE ISSUE OR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING A LITTLE MEDIAN WITH A SIGN, MAYBE WITH DELINEATORS RIGHT THERE IN THE DOUBLE STRIPE YELLOW.

SO IT LOOKS WIDE ENOUGH. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT AMAZON DELIVERY TRUCK WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT TURN IN WITHOUT HITTING THOSE SIGNS.

SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PORTION OF YELLOW HERE, WE'RE NOT CONFIDENT THAT, SAY A FEDEX TRUCK TRYING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT TURN.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT TURN, YOU KNOW, TO BACK UP TO GO THE OTHER WAY ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

AND ANY SIGNS WE PUT OR DELINEATORS WE PUT IN THIS AREA WILL PREVENT THE PERSON WHO LIVES HERE FROM BEING ABLE TO ENTER THEIR DRIVEWAY.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. WE WOULDN'T PUT IT THERE ON THE STRIPE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING PUTTING IT RIGHT THERE IN THE DOUBLE YELLOW. YEAH, AND I DON'T. YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AN AMAZON TRUCK DRIVER.

BUT THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES TO THIS FRONTAGE STREET.

YEAH. AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT. YOU KNOW, ADDING SOME DELINEATORS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS OPENING WILL WILL ACCOMPLISH EITHER.

THERE'S AN ENTRANCE IN THE FRONT AND THERE IS AN ENTRANCE TO THE FRONT AND THE BACK AND THE REAR. YEAH.

I MEAN, IF WE PUT A NO U-TURN OR NO ENTRANCE FOR THE LEFT OR, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING TO PREVENT THAT U-TURN FROM HAPPENING.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING THAT THE AGE CHALLENGED PEOPLE FROM BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT MIGHT GET CONFUSED IF THEY SEE IT.

WILL THEY BE ABLE TO SEE IT? ON THE HILL, THEY CAN SEE DOWN? THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT. YEAH. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GET CONFUSED AND THINK THAT THEY CANNOT TURN LEFT.

TURN LEFT TO MAKE A RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT SIGN IS GOING TO BE DIRECT.

THERE'S IT'S JUST AN OPEN. IT'S. YEAH. SO LIKE WHERE MY CURSOR IS, ANY SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED HERE THAT ARE FACING BACK TOWARDS THIS WAY.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE VISIBLE TO HERE, BUT THEY'LL BE VISIBLE TO THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

AND I THINK THUS FAR WE HAVE AVOIDED PLACING ANY SIGNS THAT WOULD, COULD BE MISCONSTRUED FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR ANOTHER INTERSECTION. AS WELL AS ANY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTIONS THAT WE MIGHT ADD TO THE SIDEWALK HERE.

KNOWING THAT OUR SIDEWALKS ARE NOT VERY WIDE.

WHAT ARE THE RED CIRCLES? THESE RED CIRCLES ARE WHERE WE NEED VEHICLES TO WAIT FOR THE SIGNAL.

YEAH. SO? SO THOSE ARE SORT OF OUR LIMITING FACTORS HERE.

THE SENSORS ARE FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT OUT. CORRECT.

YEAH. WELL, I, I THINK THE STAFF'S PROPOSAL SEEMS TO DEAL WITH ALL THE ISSUES.

AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I GUESS I WOULD SAY. CAN THIS BE A PILOT? YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THESE THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE WITH PAINT. AND JUST TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS WHAT WE'VE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING A PARKING SPACE HERE AND NOT PUTTING ANY VERTICAL DELINEATIONS.

I'M SURE WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS INTERSECTION, AND WE WERE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY FEEDBACK AS WELL AFTER IT'S INSTALLED, AFTER MAYBE A TRIAL PERIOD OF SOME SORT. AND AND SO WHILE THIS MAY BE SEMI-PERMANENT THERE'S ALWAYS MODIFICATIONS THAT CAN BE MADE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO IN THE MEDIUM ON PROSPECT MAKING THAT LEFT TURN IN GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.

COULD THERE BE A SIGN THERE THAT SAYS NO U-TURN INTO FRONTAGE GOING SOUTH.

SOMETHING. SO SO I THINK WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING HERE IS IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN BIG PROSPECT FROM BERYL PROHIBITING RIGHT TURNS INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD. NO NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR CARS COMING UP THIS WAY.

YEAH WE HAVE TWO NO U-TURN SIGNS THERE CURRENTLY.

WHAT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT? NO U-TURN, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING SAYING NO U-TURN INTO FRONTAGE OR GOING SOUTH? SOMETHING TO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. WE PROBABLY.

MAY NOT READ IT. WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIT THAT ONTO A SMALL SIGN SOMEWHERE.

YOU KNOW, NO U-TURN ONTO FRONTAGE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD MAKE A U-TURN ONTO THE MAIN STREET.

SO THAT SIGN WOULD PROBABLY SAY NO U-TURN. NO U-TURN ANYWHERE HERE, I THINK.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE RUN INTO. YOU KNOW, WE WANT OUR SIGNS TO BE CLEAR, CONCISE AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

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BOTH PARTS OF PROSPECT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, IF I READ THAT SIGN, I WOULD NOT KNOW THAT IT MEANT NOT TO TURN ON, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FRONTAGE IS. I MEAN, I'M LEARNING.

AND IT'S HARD TO COMMUNICATE THAT. YEAH, THAT WOULD NOT TELL ME NOT TO TURN ON THAT STREET.

IT WOULD. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A U-TURN ONTO PROSPECT.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. I'M SORRY. YOU HAD A QUESTION? NO. I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY, MR. ANDERSON.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BEELI. SO SORRY, COMMISSIONER SIMPSON.

I DO APPRECIATE RYAN'S ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.

AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

I AGREE WITH THE KEEPING THE GENTLEMAN'S PARKING SPOT IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT IS AS ANNOYING AS IT GETS ONCE YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PUT ON TO SIGNIFY THAT PARKING SPOT IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING NORTH ON THE FRONTAGE STREET ALONG WITH THE ONE WAY OF THE STREET. IT'S FOR THAT PARKING SPOT. IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHICH DIRECTION THEY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PARK IN.

I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE ONE WAY PORTION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD ENDS RIGHT AT THIS LINE HERE AND THAT THIS SPACE TECHNICALLY COULD BE IN THE TWO WAY PART OF THE STREET. I THINK IF WE HAD TO DRAW A LINE SOMEWHERE.

SO WHICH ONE ARE THEY? THIS WAY. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD DESIGNATE IT AS BEING SUPPOSED TO POINT IN THE NORTHERLY DIRECTION? I THINK THAT WOULD THAT. YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

MIGHT BE A MUNICIPAL CODE CHANGE TO ALLOW WRONG-WAY PARKING AT A VERY CERTAIN SPECIFIC LOCATION.

I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE WERE WORKING WITH A PILOT PROGRAM. THAT'S.

I KIND OF TRY TO WORK THIS OUT. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S, THIS IS SUCH A ZOOMED IN ISSUE.

I GET IT ON A SPECIFIC STREET. IT'S I MEAN, IT COULD YOU COULD INTERPRET THAT AS NORTHBOUND UNTIL YOU HIT THE WHITE LINE AS WELL.

SO AND THEN IT'S NOT AS BIG AS THE COMPLAINT WITH THE BUS STOP.

I COULD ABSOLUTELY SEE IT BEING SOLID RED ALL THE WAY TO THE BUSHES WOULD DEFINITELY KEEP, WOULD KEEP HONEST PEOPLE HONEST. YEAH. AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT AS PART OF YOUR MOTION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S WHAT'S IN ADDITION TO THAT? THE REASON WHY. YEAH, THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT EARLIER WAS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC TRAFFIC OPERATION OR TRAFFIC SAFETY NEXUS TO IT.

BUT IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO RECOMMEND EXTENDING THIS RED CURB TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THE NEWLY I GUESS ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE BUS STOP THAT WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT PER THE RECOMMENDATION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. RYAN. SO FORGIVE ME IF I MISSED THIS.

IS THERE SOME REASON WHY THE STREET DOESN'T HAVE MORE ARROWS OR MORE MARKINGS DOWN IT FOR JUST DIRECTION? SO THE THE ONE WAY PORTION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD HAS THREE ARROWS ALREADY.

ONE AT THE BEGINNING, ONE IN THE MIDDLE, ONE AT THE END. SO IT'S PRETTY WELL MARKED FOR THE SHORT SEGMENT THAT IT IS.

OKAY. ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE DON'T NEED ARROWS THERE BECAUSE IT'S TWO WAY.

YEAH. SO GENERALLY WE ONLY PUT THESE TYPES OF DIRECTIONAL ARROWS WHEN IT'S A ONE WAY STREET.

YEAH. SO SO WHAT WE'RE ADDING. YEAH. AND WHAT WE'RE ADDING HERE IS A RIGHT TURN ARROW.

YEAH. I JUST THINK WITH ALL THE MARKINGS, IF WE DON'T HAVE PROPER SIGNAGE TO DETER THEM FROM ENTERING THAT INTERSECTION, IT'S GOING TO BE WE COULD PUT ALL THE SIGNS WITH ALL THE MARKINGS ON THE ROAD.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW, THEY CAN GO INTO THAT STREET AND MAKE THAT U-TURN AND THEY MAKE A U-TURN AND THEY SEE ALL THESE SIGNS ON THE GROUND, WHATEVER, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE OF A HAZARD BECAUSE, OH, I CAN'T GO IN THERE. I GOT TO BACK UP.

YOU'RE GOING TO CAUSE A HAZARD. YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES WILL CREATE MORE OF A HAZARD FOR EVERYONE THERE. OH, I MADE A MISTAKE. I CAN'T GO THROUGH THERE TO TRY TO BACK UP.

THEY TRY TO MOVE AROUND. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.

YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE MAKING A U-TURN AND GOING THROUGH IT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO MARKINGS.

THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I MESSED UP. I MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO RATHER THAN BACKING UP, STOP BEING GETTING CAUGHT CAUSING MORE OF A HAVOC.

THEY JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH IT, RIGHT? THAT'S SIMPLER.

EASIER. IT'S ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY SAFER. SO IF YOU HAVE ALL THESE MARKINGS THERE, IF SOMEONE GOES IN PRIOR TO IF AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY CROSSED THE INTERSECTION, IT'S TOO LATE.

THEY'RE EITHER JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH ANYWAYS OR TWO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH NO, I MADE A MISTAKE. WHAT DO I DO NOW? I'M STUCK. SIT THERE AND WAIT OR BACK UP AND THERE'S SOMEONE COMING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY.

GOD KNOWS WHAT CAN HAPPEN. YEAH, RIGHT. SO IT'S ALMOST BETTER NOT TO HAVE ANYTHING THERE.

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SO I THINK ANY SIGNS TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM ENTERING WITH THE INTENT OF MAKING THAT U-TURN GOING INTO THAT FRONTAGE STREET.

PREVENTING THEM FROM TRYING IT IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO.

IS IT TOO LATE TO RECONSIDER THE BLOCKING OFF OF THAT OPENING? OR LIKE YOU DISCUSSED IT AND IT'S GONE. AND. THAT WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

I THINK THERE WAS I RECALL THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING THEIR PROTECTED LEFT TURN.

ONE RESIDENT. PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE RESIDENT.

BUT THAT WAS THE CONCERN, IS THAT THIS IS A PROTECTED LEFT TURN TO GAIN ACCESS TO THIS FRONTAGE ROAD.

AND THEY DEFINITELY DID NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT.

THAT WAS MADE CLEAR DURING THE MEETING. AND IT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE PRESENT.

AND THAT WAS TAKEN RIGHT OFF THE TABLE. IT WAS AGENDIZED LAST TIME AND THAT WAS VOTED ON.

I DON'T SEE THIS MAKING ANYONE HAPPY WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT.

LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEONE UPSET.

WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HOMES.

I THINK THE DRIVERS ARE GOING TO BE TERRIBLY CONFUSED.

I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO DISSIPATE. I'M JUST BEING REALLY TRANSPARENT IN HOW I FEEL.

I ALSO THINK THAT THIS STREET IS VERY UNIQUE WHERE IT HAS THREE OPENINGS INSTEAD OF TWO.

WE NEED TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC. IT SHOULD BE A ONE WAY STREET ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND IT'S GOING TO STOP EVERYTHING.

BUT THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON. THERE'S TOO MANY DIRECTIONS GOING ON.

WE JUST WE NEED TO MANAGE THE OPENING AND CLOSINGS, I THINK.

SO THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER BEELI.

FOR THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROSPECT HERE, THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS INTERSECTION.

THIS IS A DOWNHILL COMING OFF THE TOP WHERE EVERYBODY SPEEDS UP AND THERE'S NO LIGHT HERE.

THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS WAY TO GET IN AND OUT.

WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION JUST ONE WAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE STREET, WHETHER IT'S THE OTHER WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.

I MEAN, WE ALL LIVE ON TWO OPENING STREETS. THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY STREET IN NORTH REDONDO. RIGHT. BUT AS YOU HAVE THIS BUSY INTERSECTION HERE, YOU HAVE ANOTHER BUSY INTERSECTION DOWN HERE.

IF THE LIGHTS DON'T LINE UP, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IN AND OUT OF HERE VERY SAFELY. IT'S NOT ANY BUSIER THAN HERE.

BUT THERE'S A LIGHT TO GET OUT OF THAT AREA. IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER REDIRECTING TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE STUDIED. IT WOULD NEED TO BE RE AGENDIZED.

THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION AT THIS POINT. FOR TODAY, THIS IS SIMPLY REINFORCING THE, THE EXISTING USE AND FUNCTION OF THE STREET. SO IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THE STRIPING.

IF WE WANTED TO EXPLORE A CHANGE OF DIRECTION OR CLOSING, THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION.

SO AND WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TONIGHT AT THIS MEETING WITHOUT NOTICING THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS AGENDIZED. THAT'S FAIR.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. LAUREN AND RYAN. RYAN SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE FLASHING SIGN I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU SAID WAS SUBJECTIVE FOR SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH IS A SIGN LIKE THAT? AND DO YOU FEEL THAT, LIKE.

I MEAN, THIS IS VERY UNIQUE, AND I FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VISIBLE BEFORE YOU TURNED IN, YOU CAN SEE, LIKE, OKAY, OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE SIGNS THAT ARE ALREADY UP, BUT A BARRIER IN A WAY.

NOT A BARRIER, BUT A CAUTION LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SEE IT.

YEAH. I THINK THE COST OF ONE OF THESE SIGNS IS ABOUT $1,000 OR SO.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT COST OF IT. ONE OTHER THING THAT POPPED INTO MY MIND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THE FLASHING SIGN IS HAVING THIS FLASHING SIGN RIGHT NEXT TO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND VISIBLE TO MAIN PROSPECT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON MAIN PROSPECT, YOU GOT TO LOOK FOR YOUR RED, YELLOW AND GREEN.

AND RIGHT IN YOUR VIEW, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S FLASHING WHITE THING GOING OFF TO WHICH WHICH DOES MAKE ME A LITTLE NERVOUS, ADDING THAT COMPLEXITY TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER VIEW OF THAT OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT? I GUESS I COULD GO ON TO GOOGLE MAPS. HOLD ON A SECOND.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE WAS A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SIMPSON.

THERE WAS NO SECOND. CORRECT. OKAY. SO I GUESS THAT MEANS WE DON'T LIKE THE STAFF SCRAPING RECOMMENDATION.

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I JUST WANT TO LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE ALTERATIONS TO IT.

YEAH. FINISH MY THOUGHT ON PAPER AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

YOU WANTED TO HAVE THE BUS STOP, RED CURB. BUS STOP, RED CURB, AND THE PARKING TO DESIGNATE TO GO TO THE NORTH INSTEAD OF THE SOUTH.

SO THERE'S CLARIFICATION WITH THAT. YEAH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO.

AND THEN WE CAN SEE WHAT WE, WHAT WILL OR WON'T HAPPEN FROM THERE.

WE'LL GIVE IT A CHANCE TO WORK. SO WOULD THAT BE A SECOND IF THAT IS ADDED TO THE SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT? YEAH. SO CAN I MAKE A. COMMISSIONER BEELI.

IT'S NOT AMENDMENT. WHAT IS IT? YEAH, IT'S A FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY, AMENDMENT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S PLANS WITH ALTERATIONS FOR THE RED CURB OF THE BUS STOP TO EXTEND TO THE FOLIAGE, AND ALSO TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO THE PARKING SPOT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ADDRESS AT, WAS AT 511. 513. OR 513.

BETWEEN BOTH. OR BETWEEN THE TWO. JUST SO TO HAVE THAT DESIGNATE AS TO FOR THE PARKING THERE TO BE FACING, FACING NORTHBOUND. THANK YOU. YEAH. IS THAT ACCEPTED BY COMMISSIONER SIMPSON? YEAH, SURE. THAT'S FINE. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

A SECOND FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I THINK WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S LEGALLY PARKED NORTHWARD.

WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT IF THAT'S THE MOTION.

IF THE MOTION IS TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT, I'M NOT SURE WE COULD EXECUTE THAT MOTION WITHOUT SOME LEGAL ADVICE FROM PD ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT AND DO IT IF WE CAN.

IF THAT'S THE MOTION, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

SO WE NEED A MOTION A SECOND. I BELIEVE IT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO COMMISSIONER SIMPSON'S AND THAT WAS SECOND COMMISSIONER SIMPSON ACCEPTED IT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SIMPSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEELI.

AND FOR THE PILOT AND FOR THE. YEAH, I'D LIKE THREE MONTHS.

YEAH. I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER BEELI DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? CAN WE DO A THREE MONTH PILOT ON THAT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I WOULD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. SO YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO US IN THREE MONTHS AFTER YOU'VE DONE SOME DATA.

GREAT. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD CLARIFY THE MOTION JUST SO IT'S CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THE WHAT THE MOTION IS.

THE MOTION IS WE ACCEPT THE STAFF STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ADDITION OF THE RED CURB AT THE BUS STOP TO EXTEND TO THE FOLIAGE. AND WE EXAMINE THE PARKING, THE PARKING SPOT FOR THE DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE IT'S LEGAL AND HAVE IT AS A THREE MONTH PILOT.

IT'S A THREE MONTH PILOT. A THREE MONTH PILOT. YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK. OKAY.

AND SO NOW, DO WE NEED A SECOND? THERE IS. AND JUST FOR FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE IS NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ZOOM.

AND THERE'S NO MORE ADDITIONAL E-COMMENTS ONLINE.

OKAY. PERFECT. SO I HAVE A WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.

YEAH. I WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL? ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. YES. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.

YES. COMMISSIONER BEELI. YES. COMMISSIONER TSAO.

YES. CHAIRPERSON ARRATA. AYE. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE TO J.3 DISCUSSION OF TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AT FLAGLER AND CLARK INTERSECTION.

SO FLAGLER LANE, CLARK LANE INTERSECTION. TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.

SO WE RECEIVED AN ALL WAY STOP REQUEST BY A LOCAL HOME BUILDER.

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AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE DID RECEIVE A GENERAL TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FROM ANOTHER RESIDENT HERE.

THESE ARE ALL ABOUT EXCESSIVE SPEED. ACCORDING TO THEIR REQUEST.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THROUGH THE DISTRICT FOUR COUNCILMEMBER.

SO WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WERE.

ESPECIALLY IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF AN ALL WAY STOP MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE HERE.

SO WE GOT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCILMEMBER ON DISTRICT FOUR TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AT THIS INTERSECTION.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE FLAGLER LANE NORTH SOUTH, CLARK LANE, ONE WAY EASTBOUND.

FLAGLER DOES NOT HAVE PARKING. EVEN THOUGH BOTH THESE STREETS ARE TYPICAL 28 FOOT STREETS UP IN NORTH REDONDO.

HERE'S A REVIEW OF THE CITY'S ALL WAYS STOP AND SORT OF TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY FLOW CHART.

PER THE REFERRAL FROM THE COUNCILMEMBER, WE WENT STRAIGHT TO THIS.

YOU KNOW, THIS TRAFFIC STUDY LOOKING AT COLLISIONS, TRAFFIC SPEEDS, TRAFFIC VOLUMES TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE POSSIBLE HERE. JUST A REMINDER THAT PER THE CALIFORNIA, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STOPS GENERALLY AREN'T APPROPRIATE PURELY FOR SPEED CONTROL.

AND THEY MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTING STREETS HAVE VERY DIFFERENT OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS LIKE SPEED, VOLUME, WIDTH, ETC. SO STAFF PERFORMED AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AT THIS INTERSECTION.

WE DID NOT NOTE ANY SIGNIFICANT VISIBILITY ISSUES.

SO THIS PICTURE HERE. YOU IF YOU ARE ON CLARK LANE LOOKING LEFT, WHICH IS TOWARDS THE NORTH AND THEN TOWARDS THE RIGHT IN THE OTHER PICTURE.

THIS WAS THE VEHICLE THAT WAS STOPPED AT THE STOP BAR. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PRETTY GOOD VISIBILITY DOWN TO THE NEXT BLOCK IN EITHER DIRECTION.

WE RAN A COLLISION ANALYSIS AT THIS INTERSECTION, AND WE FOUND TWO COLLISIONS WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY CORRECTABLE, EITHER WITH TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES OR AN ALL-WAY STOP.

WE MEASURED SPEEDS ON FLAGLER. WE RECORDED 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS ABOUT 30MPH, SO IT IS FIVE ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

AND WE ALSO TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS ALONG BOTH THESE STREETS.

ALONG FLAGLER WE'RE SEEING ABOUT 2600 VEHICLES PER DAY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OUR TYPICAL STREET.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, FLAGLER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET, IT DOES OPERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A COLLECTOR BECAUSE IT LINKS DIRECTLY TO ANITA 190TH, DOESN'T ALL-WAY STOP, YOU KNOW, GOING STRAIGHT DOWN THROUGH DOMINGUEZ PARK AND UP TO ARTESIA BOULEVARD.

SO WE DO SEE HIGHER THAN TYPICAL TRAFFIC ON FLAGLER AND THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FLAGLER DOES NOT HAVE PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

THIS IS WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE SOME INCREASED SPEEDS, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T THAT FRICTION THAT'S CREATED BY A ROW OF PARKED CARS.

WE ALSO TOOK TRAFFIC VOLUMES ALONG CLARK, AND ONLY 12% OF THE TRAFFIC AT THIS INTERSECTION ORIGINATES FROM CLARK.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY WE'RE PROPOSING A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE AND NOT NOT AN ALL-WAY STOP IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FORCING 80, YOU KNOW, 88% OF TRAFFIC TO STOP FOR JUST 12% OF TRAFFIC, THAT KIND OF EXACERBATE THE ROLLING STOP ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, YOU ADD ANOTHER STOP AND THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO STOP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE STOPS. UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

OVER HERE, WE'RE SHOWING BASICALLY ALL THAT DATA THAT I, THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE AS A QUICK BUILD SOLUTION IS A MEDIAN ISLAND AT THE INTERSECTION TO NARROW THE LANES AND, YOU KNOW, FORCING A LATERAL SHIFT AND SLOWING TO BRING DOWN THOSE SPEEDS ON FLAGLER TO A MORE MANAGEABLE LEVEL, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE SPEED LIMIT. THIS IS POSSIBLE ON FLAGLER BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING ON EITHER SIDE.

AND SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

TRY SOMETHING NEW. WE'VE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THIS AT DEL AMO, PAULINA AND HARKNESS AND AGATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE ARE CROSSWALKS THERE AND WHERE WE PUT SIGNAGE IN THE MIDDLE.

AND THAT CREATES THAT FRICTION TO FORCE THE VEHICLES TO SLOW DOWN.

THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF THIS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.

THIS IS A MORE HIGHLY LANDSCAPE AND EXPENSIVE OPTION.

YOU CAN SEE A PRETTY WIDE RESIDENTIAL STREET AND AT THESE INTERSECTIONS, FORCING A NARROWING OF THE LANE TO TO MINIMUM STANDARDS TO TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. THIS IS NOT AN ALL-WAY STOP.

SO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THESE TREATMENTS.

THERE'S TWO MATERIAL OPTIONS. ONE IS CREATING A MEDIAN WITH THESE YELLOW DOMES.

THIS IS THE EXAMPLE AT DIAMOND AND PROSPECT. YOU KNOW, IF A VEHICLE GOES OVER THEM, IT WILL BE FELT LIKE A SPEED BUMP.

THESE ARE PRETTY CHEAP AND EASY TO INSTALL. THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING OR VISUALLY, YOU KNOW, AS NOT AS VISIBLE. BUT THIS IS SIMILAR TO SOME OTHER TREATMENTS WE'VE DONE AROUND THE CITY,

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IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A PERMANENT SOLUTION. IF ANYTHING, IT'S FULL HEIGHT CURB.

IT'S A MODULAR MEDIAN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE GOING IN PRETTY SOON AT BERYL AND GUADALUPE IN THE CENTER TURN LANE.

AND THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT. THESE ARE MORE EFFECTIVE. THEY'RE A BIT MORE IMPACTFUL AND ESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BUT THEY ARE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. SO SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, OF EITHER OPTION.

IT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TONIGHT, BASED ON THE DATA WE PROVIDED AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THUS FAR.

AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO IMPLEMENT THIS TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENT AT FLAGLER AND CLARK.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WAS THERE A PREFERRED OPTION THAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED, OR DID YOU GUYS JUST COME IN? WAS THERE ANYBODY HERE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE DO HAVE TO. GIVE ME ONE SECOND SO I CAN GET THE TIMING ON THIS.

IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GO AHEAD. HI, MY NAME IS STEVEN BIZANTI.

I AM ON 1812 CLARK LANE. I WALK MY DOG THERE ALL THE TIME, AND I'M CONSTANTLY SEEING CARS SPEEDING UP FROM HARRIMAN STOP SIGN, AND THEY'RE IN A RUSH TO GET THERE IN THE MORNING, OR GOING TO SCHOOL OR DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF.

WE GOT E-BIKES GOING UP TO ADAMS. WE GOT E-BIKES GOING DOWN FLAGLER TO GET TO, BERYL TO GO, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE SCHOOL DOWN, YOU KNOW, BY DOWN THERE AND THEN OTHER KIDS GOING TO JEFFERSON.

SO I SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING. I'M ALWAYS THERE, LIKE 8:00 IN THE MORNING WALKING MY DOG.

AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS. A LOT OF KIDS NOWADAYS ARE WEARING THEIR HELMETS, AND THEY'RE.

AND THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN AND STOPPING. BUT I DO SEE SOME CLOSE CALLS WHERE THESE CARS ARE COMING DOWN, FLAGLER PEOPLE ON THEIR PHONES. THEY SAY THE AVERAGE IS 30 MILES AN HOUR.

LOOKS LIKE MORE LIKE 40 TO ME. YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE RUSHING FROM ONE STOP SIGN TO THE NEXT STOP SIGN.

I'M AGREEABLE TO THE CALMING EFFORTS THEY GOT.

I DO SEE, ONE OPTION IS ON NEAR THE FORD PARKETTE THAT THEY HAVE THESE BUMPS, THOSE RUBBER BUMPS.

AND WHEN I SEE THOSE THAT I'M ALWAYS, LIKE, SLOW DOWN, CRAWL OVER IT.

IT'LL CAUSE PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK.

BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GO OVER SOMETHING. I SEE PEOPLE JUST, LIKE, ROLLING THROUGH STOP SIGNS.

I THINK THAT'LL CAUSE THEM TO SLOW DOWN EVEN MORE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. HELLO.

WELCOME. HI. MY NAME IS KATIE. I LIVE AT 1903 CLARK LANE.

CLARK IS THE ONLY STREET ON FLAGLER WITHOUT AN ALL WAY STOP.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE I MOVED IN, BUT SO I FIND THE ARGUMENT THAT WE'RE SLOWING 88% OF TRAFFIC FOR ONE BLOCK, RIGHT? IS THE REASON TO NOT HAVE AN ALL WAY STOP A LITTLE BIT SILLY, SINCE LITERALLY EVERY OTHER STREET ON FLAGLER HAS AN ALL-WAY STOP.

SO WE'RE SLOWING THEM. WE'RE SORT OF LIKE, CONCERNED ABOUT SLOWING 88% OF TRAFFIC FOR 1 OR 2 BLOCKS.

ESPECIALLY I APPRECIATE MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS COMMENT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS WITH E-BIKES. THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOLS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS. PEOPLE DO REALLY TRY AND ZIP THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION WITH CLARK BECAUSE THERE IS NO STOP SIGN THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENING HOURS, FEELS LIKE COMING.

NORTHBOUND ON FLAGLER. YOU'RE COMING UP A HILL FROM MARSHALL FIELD.

AND IN THOSE SORT OF TWILIGHT HOURS, IT CAN BE HARD TO BE SEEN AS A PEDESTRIAN OR ESPECIALLY A KID ON A SCOOTER OR AN E-BIKE.

SO FEEL LIKE HAVING THAT ALL-WAY STOP WOULD REALLY ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IF THERE'S NO WAY TO PUT AN ALL WAY STOP IN THERE, I THINK THE CALMING MEASURES LOOK FINE.

I WOULD PREFER THE OPTION THAT'S THE MOST SUSTAINABLE AND THAT HAS THE LEAST IMPACT ON RESIDENTS DURING INSTALLATION.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST, IF SOMETHING IS IMPLEMENTED, THAT THERE BE SOME SORT OF PILOT PERIOD OR LOOKBACK PERIOD AND A SOLICITATION OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON HOW WELL IT'S WORKING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM, AND THERE'S NO E-COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY. RYAN, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT THE TEST PROJECT THEY HAD IN THE OTHER PART OF CALIFORNIA VERSUS THE ONE THAT YOU SHOWED US?

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THE EARLIER PART. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. YEAH.

SO THIS IS A PERMANENT INSTALLATION, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A CIP PROJECT CURB AND GUTTER AND THIS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A IS A QUICK VERSION OF THAT, SOMETHING WE CAN ACHIEVE WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WOULD YOU REPLACE IT WITH THIS MORE PERMANENT THING? IF IT WORKS AND BECOMES. WE WOULD NEED AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THAT AND HENCE WHY WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO OF THESE QUICK BUILD OPTIONS. ONE, YOU KNOW, IS A LITTLE CHEAPER, A LITTLE EASIER TO INSTALL. YOU CAN YOU CAN GLUE THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE DOMES IN BUT BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOES LOOK MORE TEMPORARY THAN THIS, A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE MEDIAN THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME IN SOME CASES LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR TO A PERMANENT OPTION, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT AS ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS ONE WHERE YOU CAN PUT LANDSCAPING IN.

RIGHT. AND THEN JUST ANOTHER QUESTION IN RESPONSE TO THE RESIDENTS COMMENTS THAT THERE'S THE ALL-WAY STOP SIGNS ON EVERY SINGLE STREET.

IF I'M CORRECT, OTHER THAN THAT ONE. WHAT IS WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT MOST OF THESE STOP SIGNS PROBABLY WENT IN BEFORE I STARTED WORKING HERE WAS PROBABLY A RESULT OF THE CITY'S ALL-WAY STOP POLICY, WHETHER THEY WERE WARRANTED AT THE TIME OR NOT, OR WHETHER THEY'RE STILL WARRANTED OR NOT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I IMAGINE WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT FROM A FROM A WHOLE CORRIDOR LEVEL BASIS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE ROW OF STOP SIGNS ON A PARTICULAR STREET BECAUSE IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, I IMAGINE A LOT OF PEOPLE FIERCELY DEFEND THEIR STOP SIGN, BUT MIGHT BE IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY A STOP SIGN OR TWO AT A DIFFERENT INTERSECTION.

AND SO THAT'S A TYPE OF CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ON THE, ON THE STREET AS A WHOLE AND MAKING, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT DECISIONS ON WHICH, WHICH STREETS GETS A STOP SIGN, WHICH ONES DON'T.

AND SO HERE WE ARE WITH, WITH EVERY OTHER BLOCK HAVING A STOP IN.

SO WE'RE SORT OF REACTING TO LOOKING AT EACH INTERSECTION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

WHAT ARE THE COST COMPARISONS? HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER TSAO. YOU WANT TO TALK? OH, YEAH.

I WAS SAYING THE COST COMPARISON BETWEEN JUST PUTTING IN A STOP SIGN VERSUS A MEDIAN.

ANY OF THESE OPTIONS? IN TERMS OF THE PURE INSTALLATION COST IS, YOU KNOW, THIS TREATMENT IS A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.

BUT THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE PROPOSING IT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO USE THE DATA THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND OUR EXPERIENCE AT OTHER STOP SIGNS. YOU KNOW, IF WE INSTALLED A STOP SIGN, WE WOULD PROBABLY HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT NONCOMPLIANCE.

THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE HANDFUL OF OUR MOTOR COPS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ENFORCE EVERY SINGLE STOP SIGN ALL THE TIME IN THE CITY.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE AND SEEING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE ARE BEFORE WE THROW ANOTHER STOP SIGN IN.

COMMISSIONER NAFISSI, I THINK YOUR MIC IS OFF.

SORRY. THANK YOU. I'VE SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION FOR THREE YEARS, ROUGHLY 3 OR 4 YEARS, AND I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT EVERY MEETING I PROBABLY APPROVED LIKE FOUR STOP SIGNS. BUT I'VE ALWAYS SAID, I DO NOT THINK THAT STOP SIGNS, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH REDONDO, DO ANYTHING FOR TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE GET SO USED TO THEM AND THEY'RE JUST RUNNING THEM.

AND THEN WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC REFORM.

BUT I WON'T REPEAT MYSELF. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE TEAM WHATEVER.

BUT QUESTION FOR YOU. SO WAS YOUR IDEA THAT YOU WOULD PUT THIS MITIGATION TREATMENT AND INSTEAD OF STOP SIGNS TO BE MORE CREATIVE AND KIND OF GIVE A PERCEPTION THAT THE STREET IS MORE NARROW AND IT WOULD SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. YES, THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S CREATING THAT VISUAL BARRIER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STRIKING THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME LEVEL OF STOP SIGN COMPLIANCE AT OTHER LOCATIONS AND RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC ON THE STREET IS IS ON FLAGLER.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT HITS AS MANY OF THESE DATA POINTS AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. RYAN, MAY I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION OF WHY IS IT MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING, THE MORE EXPENSIVE DRILLED INTO THE GROUND

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THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS ASSOCIATED WITH A CROSSWALK.

I THINK PEOPLE GENERALLY ASSOCIATE A MEDIAN AS A VERY COMMON TYPE OF THING THAT THEY SEE ON THE STREET VERSUS, YOU KNOW, 12 OR 15 YELLOW DOTS, CIRCULAR DOTS ON THE STREET.

AND SO FROM AN ESTHETIC POINT OF VIEW, SOMETHING THAT BLENDS IN AND LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE YOUR TYPICAL CURB AND GUTTER.

THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT BY MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND KIND OF CAN KIND OF BLEND IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. SO, RYAN, SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY A LOCAL HOME BUILDER, IS THERE A CONSTRUCTION SITE ON THE CORNER? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION SITE RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF THE REQUEST WE GOT THROUGH.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS THEY. I THINK IT WAS IT WAS ALL STARTED BY A, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT SPEED.

AND, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY THERE WOULD BE THERE COULD BE A DRIVEWAY OR TWO ON, ON FLAGLER IF OR WHEN THIS HOME GETS BUILT.

AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THEIR RESIDENTS BACKING OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY WOULD BE CAUSING CONFLICTS WITH, YOU KNOW, CARS COMING UP AND DOWN FLAGLER. HAVE THERE BEEN LIKE SURVEYS DONE OR OTHER CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY THE RESIDENCES IN THE PAST? NO, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS INTERSECTION HAS COME UP.

SO I DRIVE DOWN FLAGLER VERY, VERY FREQUENTLY.

I LIVE ON ROCKEFELLER, AND THAT'S OFTEN A ROUTE I TAKE.

AND I DO THINK THIS WOULD BE A VERY EFFECTIVE AND USEFUL WAY TO TO PUT IN SOME TRAFFIC CALMING.

AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE TOO MANY STOP SIGNS.

YOU GET A SITUATION WHERE YOU GET IGNORED. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP.

HAVE YOU IMPLEMENTED THIS ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY? A FORM OF THIS, SO DEL AMO PAULINA, WHERE WE HAVE A CROSSWALK, WE HAVE A SORT OF A MINI VERSION OF THIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, YOUR OFFSET IS ABOUT FOUR FEET, YOU KNOW, FOUR FEET ON EITHER SIDE TO CREATE.

THAT'S THE ONE BY THE SCHOOL RIGHT?. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE BY THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT ONE'S GETTING RUN OVER. [LAUGHTER] IT'S HELD UP PRETTY WELL. THAT ONE HAS HELD UP PRETTY WELL SO FAR [LAUGHTER].

AND WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY SIGNS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET HERE.

THIS ONE IS MORE OF A LATERAL SHIFT. THE ONE AT DEL AMO PAULINA IS ABOUT A TWO FOOT SHIFT IN EACH DIRECTION.

AND SAME WITH THE ONE AT HARKNESS AND AGATE. WE'VE SEEN SOME GOOD BENEFITS OUT OF IT.

WE HAVEN'T TAKEN SPECIFIC DATA YET, BUT FROM MY TIMES OF DRIVING DOWN HARKNESS, THAT LANE NARROWING EFFECT DOES SEEM TO BE EFFECTIVE.

YEAH, BUT THOSE THOSE TWO EXAMPLES ARE PAIRED WITH CROSSWALKS.

WHEREAS THIS ONE WE WANT YOU KNOW, YOU COULD STRIPE THE CROSSWALK HERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO. BUT BUT IT CERTAINLY ACTS LIKE A CROSSWALK SAFETY YOU KNOW ENHANCEMENT FOR THE LEGAL CROSSWALK THAT'S HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU SHOWED TWO MATERIAL OPTIONS HERE.

WHICH WHICH ONE ARE YOU ASKING US TO GO WITH? OR ARE YOU JUST SORT OF SAYING, OKAY, GO FOR THE IDEA AND THEN WE'LL.

IF YOU DON'T MIND. HI AGAIN. ANDY WINJE, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET A VOTE, YES OR NO, ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THIS.

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF CONFER THAT RYAN'S MENTIONED A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WE HAVE A FEW MORE ON THE WAY. I DIDN'T GET ANY MORE MONEY IN MY TRAFFIC CALMING BUDGET THIS YEAR.

SO COST IS AN ISSUE FOR ME. SURE. SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHICH ONE UNLESS YOU'RE JUST OPPOSED TO ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND LET ME KIND OF DO MY WORK WITH THE FINANCIALS AND SEE WHICH ONE OF THESE WE CAN AFFORD, THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING THESE IN MORE PLACES OVER THE NEXT FEW. SO THEN YOU'D COME BACK FOR APPROVAL OF THE TYPE YOU'D USE, OR YOU JUST PUT IN THE ONE THAT WOULD. NO, THAT WOULD BE PART OF MY DUTIES AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. SO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR US JUST TO BRING THIS? IF YOU WOULD GIVE US A YES. DO THIS OR NO. DON'T DO THIS OR PROCEED OR NOT.

AND IF YOU IF YOU PREFER THE ALL-WAY STOP, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO APPEAL TO THE DISTRICT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBER THROUGH OUR FLOWCHART PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GET HIM TO BRING THAT FORWARD FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION AT ANOTHER MEETING.

THAT'S HE'S BEEN KNOWN TO DO THAT. I'LL SAY THAT IN THE PAST.

DISTRICT FOUR ESPECIALLY HAS BEEN VERY WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH STOP SIGNS DESPITE STAFF'S TECHNICAL REASONS WHY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE STOP SIGNS.

OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE. COMMISSIONER BEELI.

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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE SECOND. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY THAT, THAT WE DO THIS AS A PILOT AND BRING IT BACK IN LIKE THREE MONTHS, OR BRING BACK OR HOWEVER MONTHS, WHATEVER YOU YOU DEEM.

GIVEN THE EXPENSE. TO INSTALL THIS, I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT IT FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WILL LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS, AND WE'D LIKE TO NOT JUST PULL IT OUT AFTER THREE MONTHS.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A FUTURE COMMISSION? SURE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO WHAT? COULD YOU WANT? TO GO AHEAD AND REDO THAT MOTION? I'M DOING A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES FOR THE INTERSECTION OF FLAGLER AND CLARK.

FOR THE RECOMMENDED STAFFING SUGGESTION.

AND BRINGING IT BACK. YEAH. WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A FUTURE COMMISSION.

IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO BRING THAT BACK AT THE COUNCIL.

WE COULD CHANGE THERE. I'M SURE THEY WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY. SECOND. SURE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? YOU WANT A ROLL CALL VOTE. ROLL CALL VOTE. LET'S GO.

COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. AYE. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.

AYE. COMMISSIONER BEELI. AYE. COMMISSIONER TSAO.

AYE. CHAIRPERSON ARRATA. AYE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. J.4 DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL REFORMS TO THE CITY'S PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM.

SO THIS WILL BE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION BASED ON A REFERRAL REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION.

AND THIS IS TO DISCUSS OUR OVERALL PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM.

ANYTHING WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CHANGE YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CONSTRAINTS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MUNICIPAL CODE CHANGES AS WELL. SOME OF THESE STEM FROM, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AROUND THE HOLIDAYS WITH THE AVENUE H, THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS IN TORRANCE AND THE EFFECTS ON AVENUE H.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT ONE BLOCK PARKING ZONES THAT AFFECT, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON OTHER STREETS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, BASED ON OUR ON PUBLIC WORKS EXPERIENCE AND AS WELL AS REMARKS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO OVER HERE, YOU CAN SEE HERE ARE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR PARKING PERMIT TYPES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONES FOR FOR THE PARKING METERS, RIVIERA VILLAGE EMPLOYEES, THERE'S ONE FOR EMPLOYEES WHO WORK ALONG THE WATERFRONT, SENIOR PARKING METERS AROUND THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND THIS IS PARTICULAR JUST TO THE PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT.

SO THESE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON THAT BLOCK.

AS I MENTIONED, THOSE ARE REQUESTS FROM THE COMMISSION AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, YOU KNOW, AVENUE H RESIDENTS HAVING ISSUES WITH PARKING DURING THE HOLIDAY LIGHT SEASON.

THE WAY THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS WRITTEN MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR A PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE TO BE CREATED, ESPECIALLY DURING AN EVENT OR A SEASONAL HOLIDAY EVENT OCCURRENCE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT ZONES.

THERE'S PERCEIVED UNFAIRNESS WITH EXISTING ONE BLOCK ZONES.

AND I'LL SHOW ON THE NEXT SLIDE WHERE THOSE ARE.

STAFF HAVE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES IN ADMINISTRATING THE PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, WHERE IT'S MOSTLY PAPER BASED.

AND BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE'RE, WORKING THROUGH SOME CHANGES TO, AT LEAST FROM THE POLICE SIDE TO IMPROVE ENFORCEMENT AND MOVE THINGS TO AN ONLINE SYSTEM AND AS WELL AS RESIDENTS, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AND DIFFICULTY.

YOU KNOW HOW TO GET A HOW TO GET A ZONE APPROVED, HOW TO HOW TO BUY THE PERMITS.

I THINK EVERY YEAR DURING THE PERMIT RENEWAL PERIOD, WE, THE COUNTY IS FLOODED WITH RESIDENTS WITH QUESTIONS WANTING TO RENEW THEIR PERMITS.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.

SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE ISSUES TO ADD OR REMOVE ANY SEASONAL PERMIT ZONES.

THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR EVENT ZONES.

WE ALSO HAVE PROBABLY TOO MANY PARKING PERMIT ZONES.

SO THESE ARE LIKE MULTIPLE ZONES ON A SINGLE STREET, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL.

PER THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS ALSO VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE OR RECONSIDER PREFERENTIAL ZONES.

IT FIRST REQUIRES RESIDENTS OF THAT AFFECTED BLOCK TO SIGN THE TWO THIRDS PETITION TO EVEN CONSIDER TAKING TAKING THAT ZONE AWAY.

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THE RESTRICTIONS, AS THEY READ RIGHT NOW ARE SORT OF BINARY.

IT'S EITHER YOU CAN PARK THERE OR YOU CAN'T PARK THERE. OTHER CITIES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN SANTA MONICA WEST HOLLYWOOD, CULVER CITY, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES WITH SIMILAR TYPES OF PARKING DIFFICULTIES WHERE THEY ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO HOUR PARKING AVAILABLE FOR ALL.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO BYPASS THAT 2 HOUR OR 1 HOUR OR WHATEVER TIME RESTRICTION THAT PERMIT LETS YOU EXEMPT THAT.

SO THIS IS HELPFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, VENDORS, VISITORS, ETC..

AND AS I MENTIONED, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PLANNING TO ADDRESS ENFORCEMENT ISSUES OVER TIME WITH WITH LICENSE PLATE READER SOFTWARE AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP HERE, THOSE SINGLE BLOCK ZONES.

SO ON ROCKEFELLER, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO, YOU KNOW, THE LAND USES IN THIS AREA ARE ALL THE SAME. THERE IS A ONE BLOCK ZONE THERE, AND RESIDENTS FROM NEIGHBORING BLOCKS HAVE ACTUALLY EXPRESSED TO US.

WHY IS THERE A PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE ON THAT BLOCK? YOU KNOW, IT'S CAUSING ISSUES ON OUR BLOCK. SAME THING FOR THIS ONE TINY BLOCK OF CLARK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DUE TO SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON ALONG AVIATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THOSE CONDITIONS DON'T EXIST ANYMORE.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S RESIDENTS ON OTHER BLOCKS WHO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW IF THEY GET PERMITS, WHY DON'T WE GET PERMITS? AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO A BLOCK NEXT TO ALTA VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS BLOCK, BUT JUST NOTING THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VERY SMALL ZONES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO SOME OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, REVISING THE MUNICIPAL CODE SO THAT THE THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE COULD HAVE SOME MORE AUTHORITY TO AT LEAST BRING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO YOU KNOW, IF UNDER THE EXISTING MUNICIPAL CODE, WHEN THE RESIDENT THRESHOLDS ARE MET WITH ENOUGH SIGNATURES, THEN THE COMMISSION HOLDS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER MODIFYING, ADDING, OR REMOVING THIS PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE.

WE'RE SUGGESTING WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT SOMEONE ON CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET, PER THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AT LEAST BRING FORWARD THAT PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DULY NOTICING, THAT WAY THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO TO BYPASS THE PETITION PROCESS IF IT NEEDS TO.

AND THEN ALSO REVISING THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBLE ZONES THAT REFLECT THE HOLIDAY PERIODS OR EVENTS, LIKE EVENTS LIKE BEACH LIFE FESTIVAL, SETTING SPECIFIC LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF ONE DAY VISITOR PERMITS AND ALLOWING, PERHAPS ALLOWING FOR SOME SHORT TERM PUBLIC PARKING IN SOME OF OUR ZONES.

BUT LETTING THE PEOPLE WHO HOLD THOSE PERMITS EXEMPT FROM THOSE EXEMPT THEMSELVES FROM THOSE TIME LIMITS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WHO HAS A, YOU KNOW, A LUNCH GATHERING AT THEIR HOME, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY A TON OF VISITOR PERMITS JUST FOR THAT ONE HOUR THAT THEY'RE HOLDING AN EVENT OR THEIR BABYSITTER OR THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHO NEEDS AT LEAST A BABYSITTER FOR ONE HOUR, OR A PLUMBER WHO COMES IN FOR ONE HOUR.

THEY WOULD NOT NEED A PERMIT IF THEY'RE JUST PARKING THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

THIS DOES REQUIRE SOME IMPROVED ENFORCEMENT THAT WE BELIEVE IS IN THE PROCESS, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, IS TO MAKE THE RESTRICTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE DYNAMIC AND FRIENDLY FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT WE COMPLETELY MOVE OVER TO ONLINE AND LICENSE PLATE BASED PERMITS SO THAT NOT EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A STICKER PASTED ON YOUR CAR. THINGS CAN BE DONE BY BY LICENSE PLATE.

WE FEEL THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A MORE EFFICIENT SYSTEM.

AND LASTLY THIS IS MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE, BUT DIVIDING THE WHOLE CITY INTO PARKING PERMIT DISTRICTS.

WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT EVERY STREET BECOMES A PERMITTED STREET.

BUT THAT SUCH THAT MUNICIPAL CODE THRESHOLDS ARE MET BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT THRESHOLDS, THAT IF THEY DO BECOME A PARKING PERMIT STREET, THEY JUST SIMPLY JOIN THAT PERMIT ZONE.

AND THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD A NEW PERMIT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE ADD A STREET.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HERE, THE ENTIRE CITY OF INGLEWOOD IS HAS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PERMIT ZONES.

NOT EVERY STREET IN THIS ZONE REQUIRES A PERMIT.

BUT IF A STREET DID HAVE PERMITS, THEY WOULD JUST SIMPLY JOIN, YOU KNOW, ZONE FIVE D AND OR WHATEVER.

AND SO CULVER CITY, SANTA MONICA ARE ALSO THAT'S THE SYSTEM THAT THEY USE.

AND SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK ANDY HAS SOME MORE BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION HE WANTS TO PROVIDE.

YEAH, THANKS. AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE COMMENTARY ON THIS.

SO THE CITY'S PERMITTED PARKING SYSTEM IS PRETTY DATED RIGHT NOW AS WRITTEN IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

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THE LAST TIME WE DID ONE OF THESE WAS FOR THE AREA OF GERTRUDA.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE COASTAL ZONE, WHICH MADE IT A LOT MORE COMPLICATED, EVEN JUST NEAR THE CITY YARD.

AND WE HAD TO DO A LICENSE PLATE STUDY. THERE'S CERTAIN FINDINGS, THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN AND THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS, THERE'S CERTAIN FINDINGS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAD TO MAKE ABOUT THE AREA BEING KIND OF OVERRUN WITH COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OR SCHOOL OR SOMETHING IN THE AREA TO JUSTIFY THESE ZONES SO THAT'S A GREAT PURPOSE, BUT IT DOES LIMIT STAFF'S ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE DO GET COMPLAINTS. AND SO WE WANTED TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT CODE ADAPTATIONS OR MODIFICATIONS THAT WE MIGHT PROPOSE TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A USEFUL TOOL IN TERMS OF CORRECTING AREAS THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.

BRINGING UP THE SEASONAL OR THE EVENT BASED PERMITS.

AND THEN SOME OF THE CREATIVE IDEAS RYAN MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING TWO HOUR PARKING, FOR INSTANCE, FOR ANYBODY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PARK MORE THAN THAT, THEN A PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MODERNIZE OUR LANGUAGE HERE A LITTLE BIT AND JUST LOOKING FOR BEGINNING PART OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT IDEAS THAT WE MIGHT LOOK INTO AS WE DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EXCUSE ME. DO WE HAVE ANY? THERE IS NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM, AND THERE'S NO ECOMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? COMMISSIONER BEELI.

QUICK QUESTION WITH THE. I JUST HAD SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS FROM DISTRICT FIVE ALL THE WAY UP AT MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD.

ONE OF THE, THERE'S A NEW COMPANY IN, THEY MOVED INTO ONE OF THE WAREHOUSES ON THE IMPULSE.

YEAH. IMPULSE SPACE. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

WE ARE. THEY HAVE BEEN COMING IN TO THE MANHATTAN BEACH FRONTAGE ROAD AND TAKING UP OUR CONSTITUENTS PARKING ON THAT ROAD AND PARKING AND TAKING UP ALL THE PARKING ON THAT STREET, WHICH BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS AND WHATNOT.

SO I HEARD AT THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT IT'S GOT BRANT HART IS AT THE AT THE MEETING LOCATION. AND I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR THIS.

SO IF, WHEN WOULD THE CONSTITUENTS OF THAT BLOCK BE ABLE TO, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR NEXT STEPS IN ORDER TO GET A PARKING PERMIT SITUATION FOR THAT? OR HOW WOULD THAT GO ON THE. YEAH, WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, IN IMPULSE AS WELL. THEY'VE WE'VE NOT JUST THE PARKING BUT ALSO DAMAGE TO THE TO THE MEDIAN ON MBB, ACTUALLY. AND SO WE PROVIDED THOSE FORMS TO, TO THAT RESIDENT.

AND SO THEY, THEY DO NEED TO COLLECT THOSE SIGNATURES AND BRING THOSE BACK TO US.

AS YOU COULD PROBABLY IMAGINE, PERMIT PARKING CAN BE QUITE CONTENTIOUS.

YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN STREETS AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S AN IMPACT.

NOT EVERY BLOCK IS IS IN FAVOR OF THOSE. AND SO WE DID PROVIDE THOSE FORMS TO THE RESIDENT.

AND IT'S UP TO THEM TO COME BACK TO US WITH, WITH THOSE SIGNED FORMS BEFORE WE, WE BEGIN A STUDY.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER NAFISSI. IS IT POSSIBLE TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR SCHOOLS AND PARKS? SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND WE'VE HEARD ON THIS COMMISSION IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE EXCEPTIONAL CHALLENGES WHO LIVE NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ASSUMES NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ADDITIONAL CARS THAT COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COMMON CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU BOUGHT A HOME NEXT TO A SCHOOL. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? LIKE I HEAR THAT.

BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT A HOME 30 YEARS AGO, THIS COMMUNITY LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT THAN, IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT TODAY THAN WHEN THEY BOUGHT A HOME.

IN FACT, THE ACTUAL ATTENDEES AND THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS HAS INCREASED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT RESONATES WITH ME WHEN WE HEAR RESIDENTS COME IN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT PARKING CHALLENGES NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO IF YOU GUYS COULD MAYBE CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STREETS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AND I THINK ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS REALLY DON'T DRIVE.

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BUT I THINK THE CHALLENGE REALLY IS THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE ADDITIONAL CARS.

SO IF THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AND THEN THE PARKS CONVERSATION IS THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER OF UNHOUSED RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THEIR CARS.

AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH RBPD IS THAT THEY'RE LIKE SKILLED, YOU KNOW, SKILLED AND JUST MOVING THEIR CARS EVERY X AND AMOUNT OF HOURS, AND THEY CAN'T SEEM TO DO ANYTHING. BUT THE CARS ARE ALWAYS THERE.

LIKE DOMINGUEZ PARK, THERE ARE PROBABLY LIKE TEN CARS OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.

SO IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO PRIORITIZE THE PARKS IN SOME WAY, I KNOW THAT'S TRICKY BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT MAYBE THE PARK AREA CAN BE LIKE A FOUR HOUR, LIKE BLOCK OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT COME TO MY MIND BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HEAR THE MOST NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS.

YEAH. I THINK SPECIFIC TO THE SCHOOL IS THAT THAT FIRST POINT, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ALLOWING STAFF TO AT LEAST BRING FORWARD, BASED ON THE FINDINGS, THE SPECIFIC FINDINGS.

YOU KNOW, IF I THINK WE WOULD NEED A THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PETITION PROCESS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE GO DOWN THE ROAD OF CODE CHANGES TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE FOR STAFF TO BRING THAT UP, I THINK THAT COULD MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND MAYBE MORE HOLISTIC IN LOOKING AT A SCHOOL AREA AS A WHOLE, INSTITUTING PERMIT, PARKING AROUND AND NOT RELYING ON BLOCK BY BLOCK BY BLOCK, JUST LIKE STOP SIGNS, YOU KNOW. LIKE WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM ALL AROUND THE AREA.

AND I THINK THAT CAN BE A MORE, I THINK AN INSTANCE LIKE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT AT LEAST THAT THE CODE COULD ALLOW FOR THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IMAGINING HERE WITH THAT SPECIFIC TO TO THE TIME LIMITS AROUND PARKS, I THINK WE DO HAVE A PROCESS FOR FOR TIME LIMIT PARKING.

AND THAT'S, THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM PREFERENTIAL PARKING.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME LIMIT FOR A CERTAIN PART OF THE DAY, AND THAT HELPS WITH THE TURNOVER AND PRESUMABLY KEEPS ACCESS TO OUR PARKS THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN NEED A PERMIT. BUT IF WE'RE IN A SPECIFIC INSTANCE WHERE THAT PARKING IS REALLY USED BY RESIDENTS, THEN THAT'S AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, NOT HAVING TO ALWAYS STRICTLY GO WITH THE PETITION PROCESS COULD GIVE US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERY BLOCK IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT WAS TODD LOEWENSTEIN AND PAIGE. I CANNOT PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME WERE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I HAVE NEVER ONE SINCE I'VE BEEN SERVING HERE.

I HEARD AN OUTCOME OF THEIR MEETING AND ANYTHING THAT'S COME OUT OF IT.

YET WE'VE HEARD COUNTLESS COMPLAINTS ABOUT, AND WE GET THE EMAILS I'M ON, THE EMAILS YOU'RE ON THE EMAILS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

SO IT JUST I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE'RE VERY DISJOINTED.

SO IF WE COULD MAYBE INCLUDE THAT, WE KNOW THAT'S A PROBLEM, I GUESS.

YEAH. LET'S NOT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS WHO'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN AND FRUSTRATION. YEAH. AND I WILL SAY THAT THE RESIDENTS ALONG EL REDONDO AVENUE, THEY DID COME TO US WITH, WITH THOSE FRUSTRATIONS AND WE DID PROVIDE THE FORMS TO THEM.

SO I THINK WE DID GIVE THEM THOSE TOOLS. BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, THE CURRENT CODE DOESN'T LET US SAY, HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE CITY'S LOOKING TO LOOK TOWARDS THE LICENSE PLATE SCANNING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE PERMIT HOLDER OR THAT HAVE PARKING PERMITS FOR THEIR RESIDENTS MIGHT HAVE GUESTS, SO NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE THEIR VEHICLE REGISTERED.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO IMPACT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS OR FAMILY THAT MIGHT VISIT AS A PARKING PERMIT HOLDER MYSELF.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXISTING PROBLEM, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A STICKER OR, YOU KNOW, AND AS AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, ANY VISITOR, THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN TO CITY HALL, GET THE VISITOR PERMITS AND THEN PUT THEM ON THEIR GUEST'S CAR.

THAT'S WHY WE PROPOSE ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS IS THAT ALLOWING FOR A SHORT TERM GENERAL PUBLIC PARKING.

SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, THE POLICE CAR WITH THEIR LICENSE PLATE READER, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU'RE ON A BLOCK THAT ALLOWS ONE HOUR PARKING BETWEEN 9 A.M.

AND 5 P.M., BUT IF YOU HAVE THE PERMIT, YOU CAN PARK THERE LONGER.

AND SO THE POLICE WOULD, YOU KNOW, DO A SWEEP OF THE BLOCK.

THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD RECORD A TIME STAMP FOR EACH LICENSE PLATE, AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AN HOUR LATER.

AND YOU KNOW, IF THE WHATEVER THE RESTRICTION MIGHT BE.

AND THEN IF THEY'RE PARKED FOR OVER THAT TIME THEN THEY GET THE TICKET.

OR IF THEY HAVE THE VISITOR PERMIT OR THE RESIDENT PERMIT, THEN THEY DON'T GET THE TICKET.

IS THIS FOR PREFERENTIAL PARKING? YES. YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO MAKE IT MORE RESTRICTIVE FOR FOR VISITORS OR GUESTS.

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AND DEPENDING ON THE BLOCK AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE WE'D HAVE TO STILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO, TO MAKE THE REVISIONS TO EACH BLOCK. THOSE TYPES OF CASES MAY NOT REQUIRE A VISITOR PERMIT. SO LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE YOU LIVE LIKE IN ONE OF THE AVENUES.

RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE A VISITOR, LET'S SAY YOUR DAD OR YOUR MOM FROM OUT OF STATE WITH THEIR VEHICLE.

I MEAN HOW DO YOU GET A VISITOR PERMIT FOR THAT FIRST TIME OR YOU JUST GIVE THEM YOUR PARKING PASS PREFERENTIAL PASS? I BELIEVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM ALLOWS YOU TO GET THOSE VISITOR PARKING PASSES.

SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT.

BUT I THINK WE DO WANT TO PUT SOME NUMBER NUMERICAL CAP ON THOSE PER YEAR SO THAT RESIDENTS ARE NOT GETTING UNLIMITED ONE DAY PASSES FOR FREE.

I THINK THAT'S WE'RE NOT REALLY PROPOSING MAJOR CHANGES TO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY WITH AN ONLINE SYSTEM, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, ON A, YOU KNOW, WITH PERHAPS FOR A FEE OR SOMETHING IS, THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION THAT THEY CAN ADD OR DELETE LICENSE PLATES TO THE PERMIT.

THAT'S NICE. YEAH. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE EVENTUAL GOAL OF THE PROGRAM.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME DOWN TO CITY HALL AND FILL OUT THE FORM EVERY SINGLE TIME.

YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE CARS ARE.

THAT'S THAT'S. YEAH. AND THOSE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL TAKE SOME TIME BASED ON THE, ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

BUT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE IF THAT'S THE EVENTUAL GOAL.

SO NOT JUST ARE YOU ASKING FOR ANY KIND OF A ENDORSEMENT OF THIS FROM US OR.

NO, I THINK I THINK WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE PUT ON, WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED ARE, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD. BUT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THESE, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL CHANGES, MODERNIZATION OF THE PROGRAM AND ANY ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WELL, I THINK THAT THE LICENSE PLATE THING IS A REALLY STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR PARKING PASS UP, WHICH HAS HAPPENED, AND YOU HAVE A CERTAIN CAR THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THE PARKING PASS WHERE IT'S SCANNED, OR THEY MISS IT AND YOU NEED A TICKET, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR PASS UP.

THAT'S HAPPENED SOMETIMES TO PEOPLE I KNOW HOW MANY OF US OR HOW MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE PARKING PASSES.

YEAH. SO UNLESS YOU'RE DOING THE PARKING PASS, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO I MEAN, I'M DOING PREFERENTIAL PARKING, SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES. I THINK THEY DID IT BECAUSE OF THEY HAD A HUGE RESTAURANT OVER ON PCH WHERE NOW THE APARTMENTS ARE.

SO I STILL THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TO HAVE THE PREFERENTIAL PARKING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND ALL THE TRAFFIC.

SO THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD THING. PARKING PASSES, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE ALSO A CHALLENGE AT TIMES.

SO PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING FOR IT MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO IF THEY HAVE AN ITEM.

RIGHT. YEAH. I HEAR A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS THEM THAT LIKES THEM.

IT'S BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY CHALLENGING. IT'S VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE THING IS, IS SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE USING A PARKING PASS AND THEN YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE OTHER STREET BECAUSE THEIR PARKING PASSES AND YOU CAN'T PARK, YOU'RE WALKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIVE BLOCKS TO GET TO YOUR TO GET BACK TO A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL HOME JUST BECAUSE OF THE PARKING PASS ISSUES.

SO IS THE PARKING PASS RESERVED FOR THAT PARTICULAR STREET, OR WILL IT BE AN AREA? BECAUSE THAT'S A VALID POINT. WE LIVE BY THE BEACH LIKE.

GONE ARE THE DAYS WHERE YOU'RE PARKING OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME LIKE YOU NEED TO WALK.

AND I THINK THAT WILL DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY LET'S SAY IF WE IF WE ADOPTED A DISTRICT STYLE LIKE THESE OTHER THREE CITIES, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ZONE COULD BE ALL AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THAT'S A SINGLE ZONE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY NOT EVERY STREET NEEDS TO HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS.

RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT SOMEONE WHO LIVES JUST SOUTH OF SCHOOL IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO USE A SPOT NORTH OF THE SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, SO BUT IT'S MAINLY JUST TO SIMPLIFY THE PERMIT TYPES AND JUST IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND SIMPLICITY FOR EVERYBODY. IS THE PERMITTING SYSTEM AT A DECENT REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, FROM THE BRRS, I THINK THE THE PRICE OF THE PERMIT DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO THE COST. IT'S A VERY, IT'S NOT A HUGE DRIVER OF REVENUE FOR FOR THE CITY.

COUNCIL DID VOTE TO INCREASE THE PERMIT FEES FOR TWO PRICES, ONE IN THE COASTAL ZONE AND ONE OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE.

$35 AND $50, RESPECTIVELY. UP FROM LIKE 16 OR 17 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT IS THAT COMPARED TO THE 175 OR $195 METER PASS THAT'S AVAILABLE NOW, THEY HAVE ROOM TO GROW. THEY JUST WANT TO DO IT IN MEASURED STEPS RATHER THAN ADVANCING IT ALL FORWARD.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S YOUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING.

PARKING METERS HAVE A DIFFERENT FEEL TO THEM FOR PEOPLE VISITING, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS OR THE VILLAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YEAH. YEAH. IT'S REVENUE.

I MEAN, IT'S A CONSIDERATION IN THE REVAMP? THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD.

AND THE, THE KINDS OF PROPOSALS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

THE CODE JUST SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL SET THE FEE PERIODICALLY THROUGH THEIR THEIR FEE SCHEDULE.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS INDEPENDENT OF THE FEES THAT MIGHT BE CHARGED BY THE COUNCIL.

AND I BELIEVE IT READS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE ON A COST RECOVERY BASIS.

AND IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GENERATE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME CAPS ON THAT WHERE WE.

YEAH, WE CAN'T DO IT LIKE A PARKING METER, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE IT CAN BE A REVENUE GENERATOR.

YEAH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ONLY GOT TEN ZONES IN THE WHOLE CITY OF A LIMITED NUMBER OF BLOCKS.

SO IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL PROGRAM TO RUN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ON THAT MANY STREETS IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU. YOU WANT TO RAISE THE PRICES. YOU WANT TO RAISE THE PRICES.

OR WERE YOU JUST INQUIRING ABOUT THE PRICES? I'M JUST INQUIRING.

SO IS THAT A RECEIVING FILE ON THE DISCUSSION? YEAH. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT? DO WE HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT? I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ENDORSE THEIR PLAN GOING FORWARD? IS THAT. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A HELPFUL SOME SUPPORT TO LOOKING INTO REVAMPING THE PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BASED ON THE PRESENTATION, WE ARE CONVINCED THAT THE STAFF SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH, WITH WORKING ON THE ON THE PARKING PLAN.

AND JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY ANY OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, BRING MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT REQUIRE CODE CHANGES STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE THEY'RE THEY'RE THE ONES MANAGING THIS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. YEAH. THE COST TO RUN THESE PARKING PERMITS IS PROBABLY A LOT.

YES. YEAH. TO TO MONITOR IT AND ENFORCE IT. IT'S GOT TO BE COSTLY.

SO THERE WAS A MOTION. A SECOND? DO YOU WANT A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL? DO A ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. AYE. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.

AYE. COMMISSIONER BEELI. AYE. COMMISSIONER TSAO.

AYE. CHAIRPERSON ARRATA. AYE. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.

[K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD LOOK INTO, PERHAPS BECAUSE PARKING IS BECOMING SUCH AN ISSUE, WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING INTO HOW MANY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS HAVE BEEN PERMITTED BY THE CITY IN THOSE AREAS, SURROUNDING SCHOOLS AND PARKS? JUST TO SEE IF THAT'S GIVING UP MORE OF A PARKING IMPACT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD CALL IT AN ABILITY OR A PARKING IMPACT ONTO THE PUBLIC PARKING AREAS.

SO YOUR REFERRAL THEN IS FOR US TO BRING A REPORT OF THE NUMBER OF ADUS BUILT AROUND SCHOOLS AND PARKS.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? AGAIN, BECAUSE EVERY ADU IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO PARKING SPOTS.

AND I BELIEVE CALIFORNIA LAW STATES THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE OFF STREET PARKING.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE A REPORT ON THAT.

LIKE YOU SAID, BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAW, THERE'S NOT A LOT.

RIGHT. OUR DEPARTMENT DOES OR EVEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN DO IN TERMS OF THAT.

BUT IT WOULD SHOW HOW PARKING IS BEING IMPACTED BY THE ISSUANCE OF THESE PERMITS AND HOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE CAN INQUIRE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT NUMBER AND GIVE YOU A SIMPLE REPORT AND LIKE A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM JUST FOR DATA.

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SO I'M JUST I'M A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE, THE OPERATIONAL THEATER FOR THIS COMMISSION, AS IT WERE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT JUST IN A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK WITH THE GET SOME HELP FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO TO DO THAT.

IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION HERE. YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

NO STAFF RECOMMENDATION, ANY REFERRALS. TAKE THE CONSENSUS OF THE OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE THEY BECOME UNOFFICIAL REFERRAL TO STAFF.

NO, JUST A RECOMMENDATION. WE NEED TO DO A. NO VOTE.

JUST A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK YOU DO IT AS A VOICE VOTE.

JUST AS A SUPPORT FROM THE DOING THE VOTE. YEAH.

THERE'S A CONSENSUS ON THE COMMISSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF HAVING THIS CONSENT, AYE.

JUST COMMISSIONER NAFISSI. YEAH. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.

SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN IT. OH, NO. YOU'RE HERE.

IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.

MICROPHONE. OH, SORRY. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET SOME TYPE? SORRY. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET SOME TYPE OF SUMMARY REPORT OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHILE THEY'RE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, OF THE CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE HAD OR ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED, WOULD THAT EVER BE REPORTED BACK TO US.

LAUREN, MAYBE YOU REMEMBER THIS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM OR A REFERRAL FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE STAFF TO DO THAT, BUT THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. SO AS SOON AS THAT'S MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNCIL WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING IT FORWARD.

THANK YOU. ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA. NO FURTHER ITEMS FOR ME.

COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. NOTHING FROM ME. COMMISSIONER TSAO.

COMMISSIONER BEELI, I THINK. NO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE TOPIC OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM, USUALLY WITH THE SUMMER. SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM PLANNED.

I KNOW THINGS COME UP, BUT IN TERMS OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WE DO HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE CAN BRING YOU.

SO WE DO HAVE BUSINESS. BUT IF THERE'S NOT A QUORUM BECAUSE THERE ARE PLANNED ABSENCES THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE CAPABILITY WHILE THIS MEETING IS STILL IN SESSION, TO CANCEL A FUTURE MEETING IF THERE'S NO ABSENCES.

SO I JUST MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO POLL YOURSELVES TO SEE IF YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS SO WE CAN SO WE CAN RESCHEDULE IF NEEDED.

THERE'S CERTAIN AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL BE HERE.

25TH. NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE 28TH, JULY 28TH, I THINK.

CORRECT. [INAUDIBLE] ARE YOU GONNA BE HERE? I'LL BE HERE.

OKAY. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. I'LL BE HERE. SO.

SO THE FOUR OF US SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

I THINK WE'RE STILL HERE. WE'LL MISS YOU, THOUGH.

NOT SO MUCH. [LAUGHTER] SO IT WAS A MOTION TO ADJOURN AN ORDER? YES. ADJOURNMENT. WE WERE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. WE ADJOURN UNTIL THE OKAY. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD AT 7 P.M.

ON JULY 28TH, 2025, IN THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL.

COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA.

SO YEAH, I KNOW THERE WAS A MOTION IN A SECOND.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT.

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