[00:00:04] CLOSED. SESSION ADJOURNED. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? [4:00 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING] YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE. IS ANYONE ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM AND THERE ARE NO E-COMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. LET'S SEE. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS THE CLOSED SESSION? MOVE TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE. COULD YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ABOUT? YES, IT'S AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE IS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.5 OR UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR. ITEM F.1. THE PROPERTIES ARE 100 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK AND 130 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK (A PORTION OF APN: 7505-002-932). ITEM F.2. THE PROPERTIES ARE 102 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK AND 104 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK (A PORTION OF APN: 7505-002-932). FOR ITEM F.3. THE PROPERTIES ARE 127 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD, SUITE 100 AND 105 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD, SUITE 106 (A PORTION OF APN: 7505-002-908). FOR ITEM F.4. THE PROPERTIES ARE MONSTAD PIER 110-151 FISHERMAN'S WHARF (APN: 7505-002-934). KINCAID'S AND PAD 2: 500 FISHERMAN'S WHARF, (APN: 7505-002-933). PIER PLAZA 103-131 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD (APN: 7505-002-908). FUN FACTORY: 123 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK (APN: 7505-002-908). AND JOE'S CRAB SHACK: 230 PORTOFINO WAY (APN: 7503-029-903). AND FOR ITEM F.5. THE PROPERTIES ARE 3007 VAIL AVENUE (A PORTION OF APN: 415-001-7931). PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF FELTON LANE AND 182 STREET (APN: 415-803-3900). 715 JULIET AVENUE (PORTION OF PARCELS APN: 750-702-0900 AND APN: 750-702-1900). 1935 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD APN 404-900-8903. 807 INGLEWOOD AVENUE (A PORTION OF APN: 408-302-4900). AND 200 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY (A PORTION OF APN: 750-500-9902). THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE ITEMS IN CLOSED SESSION? YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU. FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK. FOR ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.3 WE WILL HAVE GREG KAPOVICH OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, KATHERINE BUCK, OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, AND BRIAN CAMPBELL, OUR OUTSIDE LEASING CONSULTANT. FOR ITEM F.4 WE WILL BE JOINED BY GREG AND KATHERINE AGAIN, AS WELL AS LARRY KOSMONT AND WIL SOHOLT, OUR REAL ESTATE ADVISERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I WILL CALL THE VOTE FOR THE MOTION TO RECESS THE CLOSED SESSION. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, SO WE ARE RECESSING THE CLOSED SESSION. WE WILL BE BACK ON OR ABOUT 6:00 TO REPORT OUT AND START THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. IN SESSION. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? [A. CALL TO ORDER] COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OBAGI ABSENT. HE'S HERE, BUT. YEAH. ANYTHING TO REPORT? CITY MANAGER WITZANSKYN, ON CLOSED SESSION. NO REPORTABLE ACTION THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE REGULAR MEETING. MOVE TO ADJOURN TO THE REGULAR MEETING. SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. [00:05:01] I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE 6 P.M. OPEN SESSION REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OBAGI ABSENT. OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY OR VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE STAND AT THIS TIME TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE. NO. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW, IF WE COULD ALL RISE FOR THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG. AND THEN PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION AFTERWARDS. I'LL JUST LEAD TONIGHT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENT TO LEAD US. READY? BEGIN. ALLEGIANCE]. AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. OKAY. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB [D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS] 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS OR PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT, SO I'LL START WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS. FIRST LAST WEEK I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THE MAYOR OF HERMOSA BEACH. WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN COOPERATE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES BETTER, AND MAYBE EXPAND THAT TO THE OTHER BEACH CITIES. I WILL BE HAVING A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK ON WATER POLO IN OUR HARBOR, SO THAT THAT COULD BE AN EXCITING AMENITY TO ADD TO OUR HARBOR. WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT OLYMPIC SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING THE WEEK OF THE 21ST. SO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING, WE WILL BE HAVING A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING SOMETIME THAT WEEK, WE HAVEN'T PICKED THE EXACT DATE. MONDAY, WE WILL HAVE A REP FROM THE NEW ZEALAND SAILING TEAM TOURING OUR HARBOR. HE ALSO WOULD BE TOURING SAN PEDRO AND LONG BEACH AS WELL. TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHERE THEIR SAILING TEAM MAY WANT TO GO TO PRACTICE FOR THE OLYMPICS. ALSO LATER THIS WEEK I HAVE A MEETING WITH LA GALAXY. THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS ON THINGS TO DO WITH THE CITY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT WE'RE COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON OUR SIDE TO PRESENT TO THEM. I WILL BE PRESENTING AT THE ROTARY CLUB MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK. AND LET'S SEE. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, SOUTH BAY GREEK FESTIVAL STARTS ON THE 18TH, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD EVENT. THIS WEEK WE'LL GO AND ORDER, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. AGAIN. GREEK FESTIVAL IN MY DISTRICT. PLEASE ATTEND LOTS OF GREAT FOOD, MUSIC, ETC.. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY A PUBLIC THANK YOU TO GERARDO FROM OUR HARDWORKING PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WHO SHOWED UP TO KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL CLEAN UP EARLY SATURDAY MORNING RIGHT AFTER THE FOURTH. IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE THEM THERE TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FROM DISTRICT 2, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ON JULY 17TH, I'LL BE HAVING THE COMMUNITY MEETING NEXT DOOR AT THE LIBRARY FROM 530 UNTIL 7 P.M. AND THIS MONTH, OUR GUEST SPEAKER WILL BE JEFF JONES OF QUALITY SEAFOOD, WHO IS ALSO THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION. SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THINGS ABOUT THE PIER AND BUSINESSES AROUND THE WATERFRONT. THIS WEEK OR THIS MONTH RATHER. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE MY COMMUNITY MEETING THIS MONTH WILL BE ONLINE ON THE THURSDAY THE 24TH AT 6 P.M. AND I'LL HAVE UP ON MY CITY WEB PAGE A LINK THERE, AS WELL AS SEND OUT A NEWSLETTER WITH THE LINK FOR THAT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NONE THIS WEEK, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO BLUE. OH. APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? [E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] NO. THANK YOU. NO. OKAY, SO WE'LL PROCEED AS IS. NO AGENCY RECESSES. WHAT BLUE FOLDER ITEMS DO WE HAVE? [G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] WE HAVE TWO BLUE FOLDERS, J.1 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. L.1. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL INTERVIEWS OF COMMISSIONER APPLICANTS FOR THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE CITY COMMISSIONS. UPDATED COMMISSION APPLICATION PREFERENCES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE. BLUE FOLDER. SECOND. RECEIVING FILE. RECEIVING FILE. SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. NEXT CONSENT CALENDAR. [H. CONSENT CALENDAR] WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR THIS WEEK. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO PULL THE AFFIDAVIT FOR POSTING? NO. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. [00:10:02] IS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ITEM H.1 AT THIS TIME? NO. ANYBODY ONLINE? NO ONE HAS THEIR HAND RAISED AT THIS TIME. AND THERE'S NO E-COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. WE HAVE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SO NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. [J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] THIS SECTION IS INTENDED. SCOTT, CAN YOU GET THAT? IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST, THEN WE DO HAVE SOME WRITTEN REQUESTS. SO THE FIRST IS RICK MCQUILLIN, THEN CHAD KRUEGER. IT'S MUCH MORE RELAXING THIS WEEK. SO I CAME BACK. I LIKE THE HAWAIIAN. YEAH. HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M RICK MCQUILLAN FROM MANHATTAN BEACH WITH A QUICK UPDATE ON CRT IN SOUTHBAYSTREETS.COM. I SENT AN EMAIL TODAY WITH SOME SCREENSHOTS FROM THE BETA SITE. IN THE SCREENSHOTS, YOU'LL SEE THE MAPS HUB AND SOME SAMPLE PROJECTS AND GOALS AND NEEDS. THESE ARE MAINLY TO GENERATE IDEAS. NONE OF IT IS PRETTY OR EVEN FULLY FUNCTIONAL YET. IT'S STILL DEEPLY IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE'LL GET THERE, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T BIG TECH, IT'S COMMUNITY TECH. SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE FINAL PRODUCT. YOU'RE INVITED INTO THE PROCESS AND IT'S MESSY. KIND OF LIKE SAUSAGE LAW. SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES, VERY SIMILAR. BUT AS G.K. CHESTERTON ONCE SAID, ANYTHING WORTH DOING IS WORTH DOING BADLY. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. SO PLEASE REMEMBER, THE GOAL IS TO DRIVE SHOPPING BACK FROM ONLINE TO LOCAL. HERE IN REDONDO BEACH, NORTH REDONDO TO START, WE ALL NEED IT, SO IT'S WORTH DOING. BUT HOW DO WE DO IT? I'M ACTIVELY WORKING ON A WAY. THE MAPS ARE REALLY STOREFRONT DIRECTORIES, LIKE RESORT MAPS, BUT FOR COMMERCE. THE ARTESIA BOULEVARD MAP IS THERE, GALLERY IS NEXT. AND WE CAN DO THE WHOLE CITY. THE MAPS WILL BE ACTIVATED TO LINK CUSTOMERS WITH BUSINESSES, AND THEY ARE REALLY JUST A PORTAL INTO THE DEEPER CAPABILITY, WHAT I CALL TOPS, THESE ARE NEW. HOW CAN WE CREATE DEEPER, ENDURING RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND THE LOCAL MERCHANTS? I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT BY ELEVATING THE PROCESS FROM BUYING PRODUCTS TO SATISFYING GOALS AND NEEDS. AND MAYBE WE'LL IMPROVE LIVES A LITTLE BIT. AND IF A NEED ISN'T SERVED LOCALLY YET, YOU MIGHT SEE ON THAT APP YOU CAN VOTE FOR IT. THEN WE CAN TELL PROSPECTIVE MERCHANTS THE DEMAND IS HERE, WHAT I CALL DESIGN ARTESIA. SO MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS THING IS KIND OF LIKE AN ACCESS REDONDO, BUT FOR COMMERCE, I DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT HOW TO THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE COMPLETE SENSE TO YOU. SO IF IT'S JUST ON YOUR RADAR AT THIS POINT, THAT'S OKAY. AND IF IT INSPIRES ANY QUESTIONS OR IDEAS, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO YOU CAN'T HURT MY FEELINGS WITH COMMENTS OR CRITICISMS. WHAT I WILL REQUEST POSSIBLY OF THE COUNCIL SOON IS SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ACTIVATION, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE IT. I HOPE WE CAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT, IT SHOULD BE. AS ALWAYS, I WELCOME ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS. AND IF YOU WANT TO MEET WITH ME, EITHER ONE OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU, JUST ASK. THAT'S IT. THANKS FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. APPRECIATE IT. YOU BET. LAURA, BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, WE CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE TIMER. IS THERE A BUTTON YOU HIT OR. THERE WE GO. OH, OKAY. SO NEXT IS CHAD KRUGER, AND THEN JT PARR. WHAT UP COUNCIL? MY NAME IS CHAD KROEGER. SO WE HAVE BEEN IN AN EPIC JOURNEY TO CURE SADNESS AND GIVE YOUNG DUDES MEANING. TODAY WE COACH RAYMOND, A DUDE SUFFERING FROM SHYNESS AND THE TARIFFS. YEAH, WE HELPED HIM UNLOCK HIS INNER POLITICAL BEAST BY PUTTING HIM THROUGH A SERIES OF TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS. FIRST, WE HAD HIM NEGOTIATE A BUSINESS DEAL. THEN HE TAUGHT A YOGA CLASS. THEN HE WAS COACHED BY A GOBLIN, AND THEN HE DEBATED A CONSERVATIVE NEWS ANCHOR, ALL WITH THE MOTIVATION OF TEACHING HIM HOW TO REVERSE THE TARIFFS. BUT WE SAW SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY. IT WAS OUR DREAM, NOT HIS. I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT BRIEFLY ON THE RECENT CRACKDOWN ON VAPE SHOPS. I THINK IT'S WELL WITHIN THE POLICE'S JURISDICTION TO DO THIS, AND WE CAN HAVE A LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF PROHIBITION. [00:15:04] BUT I ALSO THINK SOMETHING THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND IS OBSTRUCTION TO LOCAL CULTURE. YOU GUYS DON'T NEED TO HIT HEAVY HITTERS THREE TIMES. WELL SAID JT. SO THROUGH IT ALL, WE REALIZED THAT WHAT WILL REALLY UNLOCK HIS CONFIDENCE SELF IS NOT CHANGING PUBLIC POLICY BUT SHOWING THE WORLD HIS MUSIC. WE PRESENT TO YOU RAK AKA CASTLE. I WROTE THIS SONG A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. IT'S ABOUT A GIRL. [MUSIC] "[INAUDIBLE] I THINK ABOUT THE SONG [INAUDIBLE] EVER SINCE HE WALKED IN MY LIFE IT WAS LIKE A PIECE OF ME DYING WITH YOU THAT NIGHT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HATE ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO NEED ME, AND DON'T TELL ME TO MOVE ON CAUSE I CAN'T LET GO. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HATE ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO NEED ME, AND DON'T TELL ME TO MOVE ON CAUSE I CAN'T LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. BECAUSE I CAN'T LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. I REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES I WISH IT WAS LAST TIME THAT YOU TOLD ME YOU LOVED ME. BUT I FUCKED IT UP BIG TIME. I WAS STUCK IN [INAUDIBLE] REWIND. WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE THINGS I SAID, I WISH I COULD REWIND. I DO MISS YOUR SMILE, I ONLY SEE YOU WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES. I KNOW I FUCKED UP. ALL THESE REGRETS KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HATE ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO NEED ME, AND DON'T TELL ME TO MOVE ON CAUSE I CAN'T LET GO. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HATE ME, I JUST WANT YOU TO NEED ME, AND DON'T TELL ME TO MOVE ON CAUSE I CAN'T LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. LET GO." YOU GUYS FEEL THAT? "LET GO. LET GO. LET GO. [INAUDIBLE]" EVERYONE. [APPLAUSE] IT'S ALMOST DONE. "IF I SEE YOU WITH SOMEONE ELSE, WELL I CRY AND I WISH YOU WELL. I TRY TO ESCAPE THESE THOUGHTS [INAUDIBLE]". OKAY. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. ROBIN EISENBERG. BEFORE ROBIN COMES UP, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, ALTHOUGH WE SHARE THE SAME NAME, WE'RE NOT RELATED. IT'S NOT A FAMILY MEMBER, MR. MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] AND THEN I THINK IT'S HARD TO READ. BUT JIM MUELLER, I THINK IS NEXT AFTER ROBIN. WELL, PERSONALLY, I GOT A REAL KICK OUT OF THE LAST MEETING, A REAL KICK. SOMEBODY KICKED ME HARD IN THE SHIN DURING RECESS. DOCTOR SAYS IT'S A BONE CONTUSION, WHICH IS BLOOD UNDER THE BONE. I GUESS SOMEBODY DIDN'T LIKE MY JOKES LAST MEETING. NOW, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT WHEN MY JOKES AREN'T FUNNY. OKAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'LL NEVER ADMIT IT. BUT THE RULES OF DECORUM IN THE CHAMBER. OR IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU DO THIS. IF YOU DO LIKE SOMETHING, YOU DO THIS. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU DO THE HOKEY POKEY FOR SOMETHING. I BELIEVE THAT GOES FOR MY JOKES AND FOR THE FEW OCCASIONS I'M SERIOUS. KICKING ME HARD IN THE SHIN AND CAUSING REAL INJURY. I MAY HAVE MISSED THE MEETING, BUT I DO NOT RECALL MAYOR LIGHT EVER AUTHORIZING THAT. SOME PEOPLE SAY VIDEO GAMES AND MUSIC VIDEOS CAUSE VIOLENCE. I'M PRETTY SURE KATY PERRY'S HIT VIDEO WAS NOT "I KICKED A GIRL AND I LIKED IT". SO I WAS IN SHOCK. I WAS ASKED IF I WANTED TO REPORT IT AND I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO BE A SISSY. IT'S NO SECRET THAT WOMEN DON'T LIKE TO REPORT WHEN THERE'S VIOLENCE AGAINST THEM. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO NORMALIZE. HOW ABOUT NOT NORMALIZING, PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING AND BATTERING A WOMAN? HOW ABOUT NORMALIZING NOT PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING AND BATTERING A SENIOR CITIZEN? AND I'VE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, THAT I DID GO TO THE COLLEGE IN THE 70S. I'M A SENIOR. I WORE BELLBOTTOMS PROUDLY. AND SO I MENTIONED I'M A SENIOR. JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 368 ALLOWS ATTORNEYS, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TO PROSECUTE WHEN YOU BATTER A SENIOR, EITHER AS A MISDEMEANOR OR AS A FELONY. SO I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THE ATTACK IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS. AND I REALIZED THAT BY TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ME A SISSY. IT MAKES THE GUY WHO ATTACKED ME A SISSY. SO ATTACK OR NOT, NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP ME FROM SPEAKING AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. [00:20:07] NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP ME FROM CALLING OUT FALSE INFORMATION. AND YOU CAN BE DAMN SURE NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP ME FROM MAKING JOKES. AS THE LATE, GREAT PATRICK SWAYZE SAID IN DIRTY DANCING "NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER". AND I WOULD LIKE TO IF I COULD, FOR THE RECORD. MOTION TO RECEIVE YOUR FILE. SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. I WOULD ASK ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE IF YOU'RE INTIMIDATED OR ATTACKED BY ANYONE DURING A COUNCIL MEETING, YOU LET ME KNOW RIGHT AWAY SO THAT WE CAN ACT ON IT. OR THERE'S ALWAYS A POLICEMAN IN THE IN THE VICINITY, LET THEM KNOW AS WELL. SO NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. THAT'S DESPICABLE. AND I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING, OR I WOULD HAVE ACTED IMMEDIATELY. JIM MUELLER AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. EVENING COUNCIL. IT'S ALWAYS A PRIVILEGE IN AMERICA TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE GOVERNMENT. LAST MEETING, IT WAS STATED THAT REDONDO COULD BE AS SUCCESSFUL WITH CANNABIS RETAIL AS HAWTHORNE. A CONVERSATION WITH HAWTHORNE COUNCILPERSON MONTOYA WAS CITED. ONE MORE QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED, WHAT PROPORTION OF HAWTHORNE'S POT SALES ARE TO HAWTHORNE RESIDENTS, AND HOW MANY ARE TO COMMUTERS FROM INDUSTRY COMPLEXES AROUND SPACEX, TRANSIENT TRAFFIC ON MAJOR CROSS-CITY ROUTES CRENSHAW, ROSECRANS, EL SEGUNDO AND HAWTHORNE BOULEVARDS, AND NEARBY FREEWAY EXITS, AS WELL AS LAYOVER PEOPLE FROM LAX? IN SHORT, HAWTHORNE GEOGRAPHY AND INDUSTRIAL PRESENCE LENDS ITSELF TO A LOT OF TRANSIT AND COMMUTER TRAFFIC PAST ITS POT STORES. REDONDO BEACH GEOGRAPHY DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO THAT TRAFFIC. IN FACT, A MAJOR ADVANTAGE OF REDONDO TO ITS RESIDENTS IS ITS LACK OF MAJOR COMMUTER THOROUGHFARES. ITS ONE INDUSTRIAL SITE IS AT THE FAR EDGE OF THE CITY. SO IS THE SALES POTENTIAL OF REDONDO COMPARABLE TO THAT OF HAWTHORNE'S? AND, DOES REDONDO WANT WEED BUYERS TRIPPING INTO OUR CITY? SOME PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO JUSTIFY MOVING AHEAD WITH RFP, CITING THE HUGE EIGHT YEAR EFFORT BY THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE, ARGUE ABOUT, AND CRAFT A CANNABIS ORDINANCE. THE CITY'S EIGHT YEAR EFFORT SHOULD NOT BE A JUSTIFICATION. WHY? THAT EFFORT IS SUNK COST. AND AS EVERY BUSINESSPERSON KNOWS, SUNK COSTS MUST NEVER JUSTIFY A FUTURE INVESTMENT. ONLY THE FUTURE NET RETURN SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. SO IS HAVING WEED STORES IN REDONDO BEACH WORTH THE EFFORT TO LICENSE AND CONTROL THIS BUSINESS? I THINK THE EVIDENCE OF PENDING BUSINESS FAILURE, RISK TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY POLL OR WHATEVER WILL SHOW RETAIL CANNABIS IS NOT ONLY A BAD INVESTMENT, BUT CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. BUT THE REAL AND MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION TO BE ASKED IS, WHY HASN'T THE CITY DEVOTED THOSE EIGHT YEARS TO DEVELOP AND ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THRIVING, LESS LIKELY TO INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HUGE MARKET OF MIDDLE AND UPPER INCOME FAMILIES LIVING IN OUR CITY? COUNCIL, THERE IS GOOD REASON TO QUESTION THE VISION, DIRECTION AND COMPETENCE OF OUR CITY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EFFORT. REFORM IS VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING. GEORGETTE GANTNER DISTRICT 2. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW WONDERFUL THE FIREWORKS WERE, AS A POSITIVE NOTE. OH MY GOD SPECTACULAR. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY COST, BUT IT WAS SPECTACULAR. WE SAT ON THE SEAWALL LIKE WE USED TO AND WATCHED THEM, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO JUST MENTION IS I WANT TO CALL OUT AND THANK ANIMAL CONTROL. THE OTHER DAY, I WAS PULLING THE TOP OFF MY SKIMMER IN THE POOL, AND THERE WAS AN ANIMAL FLOATING, AND ALL I COULD SEE WAS THE TAIL. AND I SAID, OH, IT'S A RAT. AND I'M JUST USED TO PICKING UP STUFF AND I DON'T MIND. THEY DON'T BOTHER ME ANIMALS. AND I PICKED THEM UP. OH, IT WAS A POSSUM, AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. SO I KIND OF SQUEEZED HIM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WATER IN HIS LUNGS, AND I WRAPPED HIM UP AND WHATEVER, BUT I THOUGHT, OH, THIS ANIMAL IS REALLY SMALL. CAN I RELEASE HIM? WOULD IT BE SAFE? WILL HE BE SAFE? SO ANYWAY, I CALL THE CITY OF REDONDO, AMONG OTHER ENTITIES. AND THE CITY OF REDONDO CAME WITHIN 40 MINUTES, I THINK. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, A COUPLE OF GUYS I MET BEFORE THAT HAVE COME RESCUE. NOW I HAVE TO RESCUE ANIMALS. THEY COME TO ME, WHATEVER. AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE CHARMING, MORE HELPFUL. JUST THEY WERE THERE, A TREASURE. AND THERE WAS A LADY THERE, TOO. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THE NAME. ONE GENTLEMAN HAD A KIND OF A RUSSIAN KIND OF AN ACCENT. [00:25:02] AND THE LADY WAS, YOU KNOW, A LADY. ANYWAY IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. AND YOU SHOULD THANK YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DID WELL. AND I RELEASED THE POSSUM AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND THEN THE MOTHER CAME UP TO THE PORCH AND SHE FOUND HIM. SO [APPLAUSE] IT WAS A GOOD, HAPPY, FUNNY LITTLE STORY TO BRIGHTEN EVERYONE'S DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE MARK NELSON. GO AHEAD MARK. MARK, YOU MAY SPEAK. IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO? NO ONE ELSE HAS THEIR HAND RAISED. OKAY, MARK, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU CAN. DARRYL BOYD. OH, OKAY. WELL, LET'S GO TO DARRYL. DARRYL? YEAH, DARRYL BOYD. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO AUDIO ON ZOOM. NO AUDIO ON ZOOM, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE. SO I HAD TO TRACK ON YOUTUBE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHILE WE'RE WAITING THAT. I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YEAH. OKAY. DARRYL BOYD. OH, OKAY. TURN THE VOLUME OFF ON YOUR COMPUTER. YEAH, DARRYL BOYD. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO AUDIO ON ZOOM. OKAY. CAN YOU, YOU KNOW. YES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HEAR YOU THE WHOLE TIME. OKAY. YOU GOT NO AUDIO ON ZOOM? DARRYL BOYD. I'M PICKING UP WHERE I LEFT OFF LAST WEEK REGARDING THE 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE BLOCK. THE RESIDENTS ON THE STREET ARE WAITING TO HEAR YOUR PLAN TO REMEDY THE SAFETY AND NOISE ISSUES ON THIS STREET. MAYOR LIGHT, YOU INDICATED THAT THE CITY HAS A PLAN AND YOU ARE EXECUTING ON IT. WELL, DO YOU MIND SHARING THE PLAN WITH US? BECAUSE WE AREN'T SEEING IT. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH IS IN VIOLATION OF MULTIPLE STATE, COUNTY, AND CITY CODES AND ORDINANCES. I PROVIDED ALL OF YOU THE CODE AND ORDINANCE NUMBERS BY EMAIL. LAST WEEK, CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 46000 IS A BIG ONE, THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE. LOS ANGELES COUNTY CODE SECTION 12.08.390, PLUS SIX OTHER SUB CODE NUMBERS. AND THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CODE SECTION 4-24.301, WHICH REFERS TO ACCEPTABLE DECIBEL LEVELS, IS 50DB DURING THE DAY AND 45DB AT NIGHT, THE SAME AS L.A. COUNTY. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE ON ITS OWN ORDINANCE ON THIS STREET AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NOISE LEVELS ON THE 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE BLOCK RANGE FROM 64.3 TO 68.8DB AND AS HIGH AS 85.2DB DURING AFTERNOON DRIVE TIME. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THIS. HAS AN OBLIGATION TO REMEDY. YET THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT. THIS IS WAY ABOVE THE ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF BOTH LA COUNTY AND THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR OF NOISE WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC, EMPLOYEE PATIENT, CUSTOMER VEHICLES, CONSTANT EMERGENCY VEHICLES IN AND OUT OF THERE. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH HAS AND CONTINUES TO BE AN ENABLER OF INTRUSIVE AND UNSETTLING NOISE UPON OUR PERSONS AND OUR PROPERTIES BY NOT REMEDYING THE SITUATION WITH PROPER TRAFFIC CONTROL. CITING TRAFFIC AND NOISE OFFENDERS, WHICH INCLUDES DRIVERS ON NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE AND CONTROLLING ACTIVITIES OF BCHD THAT CAUSE CONSTANT NOISE DISTURBANCES. THE NOISE LEVELS WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO LIVE WITH ARE INSANE AND ARE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. ADDITIONALLY, THIS ONGOING SITUATION IS DUE TO NON-EXISTENT SAFETY BARRIER ON THE NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE MEDIAN MAY ALSO BE CONSIDERED A DANGEROUS CONDITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY AND A PUBLIC SAFETY AND NOISE NUISANCE DEFINED UNDER CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE 835 AND CALIFORNIA PENAL CODES 372 AND 373A. THIS MAY APPLY TO THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH FOR ALLOWING A DANGEROUS CONDITION AND A PUBLIC SAFETY AND NOISE NUISANCE TO CONTINUE WITHOUT TAKING THE STEPS TO REMEDY. WE NEED A SAFETY AND NOISE BARRIER, AND WE NEED THIS UNSAFE AND UNHEALTHY SITUATION AT 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE BLOCK REMEDIATE IMMEDIATELY. WE HAVE ASKED FOR YOUR PLAN. DO YOU REALLY HAVE A PLAN AT ALL? IF YOU DO, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH US. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN WE GET EITHER THE GUYS IN THE BACK OR IT TO LOOK AT WHY WE'RE NOT? I JUST MESSAGE MIKE COOK. THEY'RE TALKING NOW. OKAY. THE AUDIO IS ON NOW. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO ON THIS. I'VE GOTTEN A TON OF EMAILS THROUGH THE MONTHS ON THIS. [00:30:01] SO ARE WE OBLIGATED TO MITIGATE ALL TRAFFIC NOISE AT EVERY HOME IN REDONDO BEACH? I POSE THAT TO EITHER ONE OF YOU. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT THE COUNCIL WISHES TO CONSIDER. ARE WE OBLIGATED TO SEND PEOPLE. THE MUNICIPAL CODE STATES THE HIGHER OF THE AMBIENT LEVEL OR WHAT'S IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, SO THERE HAS TO BE A STUDY FOR US OF WHAT THE AMBIENT LEVEL IS. WHICH INCLUDES TRAFFIC DRIVING BY. OKAY. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME MISSTATEMENTS ON INFORMATION. TRAFFIC DOWN PROSPECT IT'S DOWN BETWEEN 3% AND 10% COMPARED TO 2009. AND ARTESIA, PCH, INGLEWOOD, HAWTHORNE AND 190TH AT MORE THAN TWICE THE TRAFFIC. SO THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION THERE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE BEFORE GOING ON, SO WITH THAT IS. NELSON WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN. YES. MARK? YEAH. I'M ACTUALLY FOLLOWING YOU ON THE CLOSED CAPTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO AUDIO. THERE'S STILL NO AUDIO MARK. NOPE. OKAY, HOLD ON THE TIMING. CAN WE GET THAT FIXED? IT'S FINE, I'M USING THE CLOSED CAPTION. OKAY. SO I FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN READ. SO I'LL. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, THEN I'LL GO AHEAD. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU, MARK. OKAY. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS AT THE COUNCIL AND AT THE COMMISSIONS FOR RESIDENTS. BASICALLY, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S WRITTEN COMMUNICATION THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GET READ. AND IT'S THEN THREE MINUTES IN PUBLIC, AND THREE MINUTES, UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO GET ANYTHING COMPLICATED ACROSS. WHAT'S BEEN A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS HAS BEEN THE WORK ON THE INTERSECTION AT PROSPECT, WHERE WE HAD VIDEO AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE. AND WE SENT LINKS TO THE VIDEO, WHICH, IN FACT, SINCE WE TRACK IT ON YOUTUBE, NOT ONE PERSON HAS LOOKED AT, THAT RECEIVED ANY OF IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ILLEGAL TURNS HAPPENED 75% OF THE TIME WHEN THERE WERE CARS PARKED IN THE INTERSECTION. THAT PART'S CLEAR. WE COULD DEMONSTRATE THAT HONESTLY, VERY FEW OF THE WRONG WAY CARS ORIGINATED ON PROSPECT. IN FACT, THE ONES THAT DID, WE COULD NAME THE PEOPLE BY NAME BECAUSE THEY'RE REPEAT OFFENDERS AND, YOU KNOW, A KNOCK ON THE DOOR MIGHT GET THEM TO STOP. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF FACTS THAT JUST DIDN'T GET USED WHEN THE INTERSECTION WAS REDESIGNED. AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AT THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WAS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE AS WELL WAS THAT WITH PARKING, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY HOUSES ON ONE SIDE OF THE PROSPECT FRONTAGE, THERE'S 68 SPOTS FOR 27 HOUSES. THAT'S TWO AND A HALF SPOTS PER HOUSE ON STREET. THERE IS NO NEED TO COMPROMISE SAFETY TO TRY TO PRESERVE ONE PARKING PLACE THAT'S IN AN INTERSECTION AND FACES THE WRONG WAY DOWN THE ONE WAY STREET SO THAT IT POINTS DOWN CLEARLY STATING, HEY GUYS, TURN LEFT. IT'S OKAY. LOOK WHERE I'M SITTING. A 5,000 POUND, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE SITTING IN THE INTERSECTION IS FAR MORE COMPELLING THAN SIGNS THAT ARE HARD TO READ. WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THEY CAN'T PUT SIGNS IN THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM BEACH CITIES, BECAUSE I GUESS THEY'RE AFRAID THAT BEACH CITIES TRAFFIC IS TOO COGNITIVELY IMPAIRED, PERHAPS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS APPLY. BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS A NO LEFT TURN SIGN SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T COME IN THERE, TURN LEFT, AND GO THE WRONG WAY. SO THERE'S SOMETHING PROCESS WISE THAT I WISH WE COULD FIND A WAY TO FIX. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MEETINGS THAT ARE MORE DISCUSSION FORUMS THAN JUST THREE MINUTE COMMENT PERIODS. BUT WHAT WE GOT GOING RIGHT NOW DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP HAVING TO GO TO COUNCIL AND PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, JUST GO AHEAD AND, [00:35:03] AND OPPOSE THE, THE PLAN ONCE WE FINALLY SEE IT. IT HASN'T COME OUT YET. IT HASN'T HAD ALL OF THE PUBLIC WORK STUFF PUT BACK IN IT YET OR THE PWSD, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE. MIKE. I WISH WE COULD GET SOMETHING DONE WITH IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN. TIME. THANKS, MARK. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. THERE'S ONE COMMENT IN OPPOSITION, ECOMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT. [LAUGHTER] ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. OPPOSING NON-AGENDA. OKAY. SO NOW JUMPING TO ITEM K. [K. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF] MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF. I'VE GOT TWO FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HERE. THE FIRST I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE INVITING BCHD TO AGENDIZE BCHD PRESENTING AN UPDATE ON THE HEALTHY LIVING CAMPUS REQUEST FOR EXPRESSION OF INTEREST. AND I WOULD LIKE THAT AFTER NON-AGENDA ITEMS. SO SAY YOU WANT THEM TO PRESENT ON THEIR INVITATION FOR EXPRESSION OF INTEREST OR ON THE PLANS. THAT'S THE. THAT IS IT. YEAH. THAT IS THEIR PLANS. SO MOVED. QUICK QUESTION. ANY ISSUES WITH THAT TIMING OR OTHERWISE SUBSTANCE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY MANAGER? NO. THEY'VE MADE A REQUEST TO PRESENT ON THE STATUS OF THEIR RFI TO GET THE WORD OUT, I THINK. SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE THIS GIVES THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY AGENDIZE THAT PRESENTATION. SECOND. SURE. IS THAT ALL YOUR? YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THE SECOND IS FOR THE FRIENDS OF REDONDO BEACH ART WOULD LIKE TO DO A REPORT ON THERE, AND I THINK IT'S A VIDEO FORM, OF THEIR REIMAGINED POETRY GALLERY. THEY HAD JUST THIS PAST WEEK, I THINK, PAST TWO WEEKS. SO I'D LIKE TO AGENDIZE THAT. DO YOU KNOW LONG IT IS? I BELIEVE IT'S. I THINK IT'S BRIEF, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, 3 TO 5 MINUTES. AND I'D LIKE TO GET THAT RIGHT AFTER CONSENT CALENDAR. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. ANY OTHER REFERRALS TO STAFF? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO STAFF THE CREATION OF AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE'S, WHICH ALLOWS THE USE OF DRONES OR UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS. A DISCUSSION. OR DISCUSSION ITEM. SORRY. TO HELP IDENTIFY AND ENFORCE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. I READ THAT THEY HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE. THEY'VE GOT MUNICIPAL CODE SECTIONS THAT ALLOW THEM TO USE DRONES TO ENFORCE AND CITE HOMEOWNERS WHERE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS ARE BEING FIRED OFF. AND WITH OUR FIRES AND INJURIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON LATELY. YEAH. YEAH, I'LL SECOND THAT. JUST LIKE, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES DON'T COVER THAT? HE'S REFERRING TO HOSTS, SOCIAL HOSTS, PROPERTY OWNERS. OUR ORDINANCES IS POSSESSION OF FIREWORKS. YEAH. RIGHT NOW, THE POLICE NEED TO IDENTIFY. I GOT IT, I GOT IT. AND SEND AN OFFICER. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW DRONES TO SURVEIL FOR PEOPLE. AND TO ALLOW US TO SITE BASED ON THAT SURVEILLANCE. OKAY, BECAUSE THE CURRENT, AND THIS ISN'T A DISCUSSION, BUT JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT POLICY OF OUR DRONE PROGRAM IS THEY SEND OUT THE DRONE WHEN THERE'S A REPORT OF A CRIME. AND SO THIS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT CURRENT POLICY? ARE YOU ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW ROVING SURVEILLANCE? IT WOULD ALLOW THE SURVEILLANCE AND THE SIGHTING OF HOMEOWNERS BASED ON THAT SURVEILLANCE, INSTEAD OF HAVING AN OFFICER SHOW UP AND OBSERVE DIRECTLY. OKAY. WOULD YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? SEEMS LIKE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS HOLDING CRIMINALLY LIABLE THE HOSTS OF A SITE THAT EMITS FIREWORKS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE? SURE. THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT ILLEGAL IN REDONDO BEACH, AND THAT COULD BE ILLEGAL, RIGHT? WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I GUESS THE SECOND PART IS THE DRONE SURVEILLANCE, RIGHT? SO WOULD YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO LIMIT THE DRONE SURVEILLANCE TO REPORTS OF FIREWORK ACTIVITY. YES. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SPECIFICALLY FOR FIREWORKS WAS MY IDEA. OKAY. I SEE WHAT YOU. YEAH. YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY? YES, I ACCEPT IT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A REFERRAL TO STAFF TONIGHT? [00:40:02] YES. I'LL GO DOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT. LAST. LAST WEEK, WE MADE A REFERRAL TO COME BACK IN YEAR END TO HAVE A 4/5 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CANNABIS SURVEY. BUT IN FACT, WE HAD LEFT ABOUT $100,000, MORE THAN $50,000 OF UNALLOCATED FUNDS IN THE BUDGET THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE. SO I WOULD ASK, MY REFERRAL WOULD BE FOR A DISCUSSION TO COME BACK IN AUGUST FOR A 4/5 VOTE ON A CONTRACT WITH 3FM, SO WE COULD CONDUCT THE SURVEY OF THE REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THAT'S FAIR. I WOULD SECOND THAT, EXCEPT. 3FM IS WHO YOU HAVE IN MIND? WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS. OR WHOMEVER IT IS, HOW ABOUT THAT? WELL, WE WOULD PROVIDE A QUOTE AND CONTRACT OPTIONS FOR A SURVEY, BUT THEY'RE THE FIRST FIRM THAT COMES TO MIND. THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH OUR LAST SURVEY WORK, SO. SO, LET'S NOT SPECIFY THAT. SURE. THE INTENTION IS TO MOVE IT ALONG. TO GET THE 4/5 VOTE. DISCUSSION REGARDING A 4/5 VOTE. APPROVAL OF ALLOCATION OF MONEY FOR A SURVEY TO BE CONDUCTED OF THE REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS ON THE CANNABIS ISSUE. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DO HAVE A REFERRAL. COULD YOU LIGHT UP 2.B. 2.B HERE .OR NOT TO BE. [LAUGHTER] 2.B. 2.B. OR NOT TO BE. OR NOT TO BE, THAT IS THE QUESTION. DO YOU SEE IT? NO. IT'S CONNECTED BECAUSE THE SCREEN JUST BLINKED. 2.B. 2.B, YEAH. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO I PUT IT UP. THIS WOULD BE A REFERRAL TO STAFF TO AGENDIZE FOR DISCUSSION A NEW COMMISSION MODERNIZED FIRE, EXCUSE ME POLICE, FIRE AND HOMELESS SERVICES COMMISSION. VERY LIMITED SCOPE. THIS WOULDN'T BE A DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER. THIS WOULD BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I'VE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN AND I SHOULD SAY, AT THE OUTSET, I DID SPEAK TO THE MAYOR AND OTHERS. RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS INVOLVED IN PROVIDED HELPFUL INPUT, AND THE CITY MANAGER SCRUBBED THIS AS WELL, WHICH I APPRECIATE. A DISCUSSION OF A COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE VERY LIMITED IN SCOPE. IT WOULD BE AN ON CALL BASIS. ITS ROLE WOULD BE TO ADDRESS ON A REFERRAL BASIS ONLY ISSUES THAT ARE SUBSTANTIVELY IMPACTING QUALITY OF LIFE, PUBLIC SAFETY, PRIVACY OR OTHER MAJOR CONCERNS OF CITY RESIDENTS. THE POWERS, AS I SAID, WOULD BE QUITE LIMITED. TO BEGIN WITH, THEY WOULD ONLY CONSIDER MATTERS SPECIFICALLY REFERRED WITHIN THE SOLE DISCRETION AND JUDGMENT OF THE DEPARTMENTS, ETC. THAT WOULD BE MAKING THE REFERRALS, WOULDN'T IT BE OPEN ENDED, WOULD BE FOCUSED, IS WHAT THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE ABOUT AND WHAT I HAVE UP HERE. SOLELY AN ADVISORY BOARD, WRITTEN REVIEWS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE DEEP FOR A REFERRAL. I'M JUST ONLY TO THE EXTENT I'M JUST READING OFF WHAT'S ON HERE WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE IT OUT VERY QUICKLY. OKAY, GOOD. LIMITED, RESTRICTED, SCOPE OF POWERS AND DUTIES. SO A LONG LIST OF WHAT THEIR POWERS AND DUTIES AREN'T. SO A DISCUSSION ABOUT NO POWER OR DUTY TO AGENDIZE FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS NOT REFERRED, DEMAND THAT ANY PARTICULAR CITY STAFF OR PERSONNEL APPEAR AT A HEARING, DEMAND DOCUMENTS, INTERFERE WITH OPERATIONS, ETC. SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OF THIS PROPOSED COMMISSION AND TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL AND STAFF AS TO WHAT THEIR FEELINGS MAY BE. THIS IS INSPIRED IN PART BY THE UPCOMING APPARENT ELIMINATION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE. AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, ALL FOR? AYE. AYE. YEAH. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. OKAY. ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THIS OUT OF THE BOX THINKING. I JUST HESITATE THAT THIS PUTS A LAYER ONTO ADMINISTRATIVE. I MEAN, THIS IS AN ADVISORY BODY, IF THERE WERE ISSUES THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD END UP COMING TO COUNCIL TO CHANGE POLICY. [00:45:03] AND I FEEL LIKE IT JUST ADDS A LAYER THAT IS A BIT UNNECESSARY. IT'S A GOOD POINT. AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES THAT MAY BE BEST FIRST VETTED BY RESIDENTS. SO I THINK WITHOUT DISCUSSING THE PEREGRINE SHARING OF THIS. WE EITHER. CONTRACT. WE EITHER APPROVE TO TALK ABOUT IT OR YOU DON'T. I'LL VOTE NO, BUT WE'RE ALREADY IN THE VOTE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER STUFF JAM PACKED ON A STRATEGIC PLAN. I'M NOT HEARING OUR RESIDENTS CLAMORING TO GET THIS DONE NOW, BUT I WILL VOTE YES JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. YES. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT IT? OKAY. SO THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. OKAY, SO JUMPING DOWN TO L.1, THAT'S MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL INTERVIEWS OF COMMISSIONER APPLICANTS FOR APPOINTMENTS TO CITY COMMISSIONS. [L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] JUST TO LAY OUT THE PROCESS FROM HERE ON, FOR THOSE LISTENING, WE'LL DO THE INTERVIEWS TONIGHT. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE DUE TO SUBMIT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ME BY THE 31ST OF JULY. AND THEN I HAVE TO MAKE MY FINAL APPOINTMENTS. WELL, I PROPOSE, AND YOU APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE MY APPOINTMENTS AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, SO THAT WE CAN THEN ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE ON SEPTEMBER 2ND. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU UP ONE BY ONE AND WE WILL CONDUCT THE INTERVIEWS. THE FIRST IS LISA FALK. I ALWAYS WONDER IF I SHOULD STAND BEHIND THIS OR IN FRONT OF IT. YOU CAN LOWER IT. THERE'S A BUTTON ON THE SIDE. JUST HOLD IT. HOLD IT. YEAH. OH, THERE YOU GO. AND THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A PRACTICE FOR THOSE WHO ARE MORE COMFORTABLE. THEY CAN SIT IN THIS CHAIR TO. EITHER THE PODIUM OR. IF YOU'D LIKE. THAT'S OKAY. I'M FINE. OKAY. IT'S A FUN CHAIR. IT IS. I'VE SAT IN THOSE CHAIRS. THEY'RE NOT THAT EASY TO MOVE UP AND DOWN LIKE THIS IS. SO WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A LITTLE OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WHY YOU WANT TO BE ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION, I BELIEVE. SO. YOU HAVE HARBOR COMMISSION, HARBOR COMMISSION, HARBOR COMMISSION. RIGHT. I'VE BEEN ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A QUARTER. I WAS APPOINTED AFTER MAYOR LIGHT WAS APPOINTED MAYOR. BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED MAYOR AND LEFT THE SEAT EMPTY. I HAVE A LONG BACKGROUND OF PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY THE HARBOR, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO HEART OF THE CITY IN 2000. AND COMING FORWARD, I WAS ON SOUTH BAY PARKLAND CONSERVANCY BOARD. I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB. I'VE HAD A BOAT IN THE HARBOR SINCE 2001. I WAS ON THE KING HARBOR BOATERS ADVISORY COUNCIL FROM 2006 TO 2010. SO I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE ISSUES FACING THE HARBOR AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON AND THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A SHOT. AND SO I DID, AND IT HAS BEEN A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE. I THINK THE BEST THING THAT I FOUND IS THAT EVERYBODY SITTING ON THAT COMMISSION ACTUALLY HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL SIMILAR BECAUSE WE'RE BOATERS, BUT EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO SAY. AND I FOUND THAT REALLY GIVES A GREAT BREADTH OF CONSIDERATION TO ISSUES THAT COME UP. SO I'VE BEEN ENJOYING IT AND THEY'RE VERY WELL RUN MEETINGS. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE FILLING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE POSITION. CORRECT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? OH, SORRY. I GOT TO GO. BEAR WITH US, WE'RE SWITCHING OUR COMPUTER SCREENS. SURE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS FALK. IS, YOU KNOW, AND WE KNOW, AND THE MAYOR HAS SPOKEN WELL TO THE HARBOR. THE WATERFRONT IS A HUGE PART OF OUR CITY. SO AS A HARBOR COMMISSIONER, WHAT IS YOUR VISION OF THE WATERFRONT? MY VISION OF THE WATERFRONT IS FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE THAT NOBODY ELSE ON THE COAST HAS, AND THAT IS AN ONRAMP TO SANTA MONICA BAY. WE ARE FIVE MINUTES FROM WHALE WATCHING AND PADDLING AND BOATING, AND I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING, [00:50:02] THIS WHOLE, WELL, WE'VE SPENT EIGHT YEARS TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON MARIJUANA SHOPS. AND WE'VE SPENT 65 YEARS TRYING TO GET A BOAT LAUNCH RAMP INTO THE HARBOR THAT WAS BUILT AS A SMALL BOAT HARBOR. SO I WISH THAT MORE PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEY COULD COME DOWN AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER, AND I THINK THAT STRIDES ARE BEING MADE IN MAKING IT MORE WELCOMING AND MAKING THINGS LIKE PADDLE BOATS, AND STAND UP PADDLE BOARDS, AND THE GLASS BOTTOM BOAT, AND THE WHALE WATCH BOAT. I THINK WE NEED A LOT MORE OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE HARBOR CAN GO A LONG WAY TOWARD BRINGING THAT TO US AND LETTING THE HARBOR SERVE AS A RESOURCE NOT JUST FOR THE CITY, BUT FOR REALLY THE REGION. BECAUSE REALLY, WHERE ELSE CAN YOU GET ON A BOAT AND IN TEN MINUTES BE SEEING A WHALE AND DOLPHINS OUT IN THE OPEN? THAT IS A HIGH LIKE NO OTHER. YES. WHAT IS YOUR TOP CONCERN AT THE HARBOR? KIND OF THE FLIP SIDE IN SOME WAYS. SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE A NEW HARBOR MASTER. I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOING SO WELL. THERE ARE RULES THAT ARE NOT BEING FOLLOWED THAT ARE THERE FOR EVERYBODY'S SAFETY AND PROTECTION. AND I THINK THAT HAVING A HARBOR MASTER AND HAVING THE HARBOR PATROL AT LEAST HAVE ON THEIR RADAR THAT THESE ARE THINGS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WILL HELP LOWER THE INCIDENCES OF PROBLEMS. I THINK THERE'S BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE, BUT I THINK THAT IS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS THAT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO GO DOWN TO MOBLE BE OR WHEREVER, AND THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE, AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS FALK. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HAVE YOU EVER HAD AN EXPERIENCE WITH STAFF WHILE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION WHERE YOU FELT LIKE YOU WEREN'T GETTING AN ANSWER THAT YOU WERE SEEKING OR YOU'RE NOT GETTING A RESPONSIVE RESPONSE. I FEEL LIKE THE STAFF HAS BEEN AMAZING, ACTUALLY. I HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY THRILLED WITH THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT, THE LEVEL OF EXPLANATION, THE LEVEL OF WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ON NEW THINGS THAT WE BRING UP THAT I KNOW THEY HAVE VERY FULL PLATES. BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH THEM. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE TOO. MY QUESTION, I GUESS, NOW, HYPOTHETICAL IS IF YOU DIDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU WERE GETTING WHAT YOU NEEDED FROM STAFF, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I SUPPOSE AS STAFFS BOSSES, I WOULD COME TO YOU ALL AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE MORE ATTENTION GIVEN TO, AND WE DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING SUPPORT FOR THAT. HOW DO YOU SUGGEST WE GET MORE SUPPORT FOR THAT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? YEP. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE HARBOR MASTER ESPECIALLY ALONG MOBLE B, IN TERMS OF THE SAFETY, IS IT AN ISSUE ON THE WATER OR AN ISSUE FROM LAND? AN ISSUE FROM LAND. OKAY. AN ISSUE FROM LAND KIND OF GOING INTO THE WATER WHERE THERE IS BOAT TRAFFIC AND BOATS AND SOFT PEOPLE DON'T MIX WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. THE NEXT ONE IS MR. GADDIS, BUT I THINK I SAW HIM GO TO THE RESTROOM, SO WE'LL GO WITH THEM. BRIAN GARCIA, ARE YOU HERE? YEAH. HI, I'M BRIAN GARCIA. I'M FROM DISTRICT 5, I THINK IT IS. I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE IN REDONDO BEACH SINCE 2013. I KNOW I'VE FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I'M SURE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT SHORT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME SECTIONS THAT ASKED FOR MY RESUME. A PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY. BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR 24 YEARS. USUALLY THE WAY THAT I GET CASES IS AFTER THE FACT IS WHERE PEOPLE GET HURT. AND IN A WEIRD WAY, AS WE GET TO REMEDY A SITUATION AFTER THE FACT, WHETHER IT BE CRACKS ON A SIDEWALK, CRACKS, ROADWAY DESIGNED TO X, Y, AND Z. BUT MY GOAL IS ALWAYS TO TRY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING HURT AND TO GET THERE BEFOREHAND. [00:55:05] AND SO I JUST SAW THAT THERE WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. MY GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO TRY TO BE OF SERVICE TO COMMUNITIES AND TO SEE IF I CAN ADD ANYTHING AS A LAWYER OR SPECIFICALLY AS A PERSONAL INJURY LAWYER TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES HERE, THERE'S SOME ISSUES THERE. MAYBE WE CAN ASSIST IN IT BEFORE ANYONE GETS HURT. I'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT COMPLIMENTARY OF THE RESPONSE BY THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE. WE MADE SOME CALLS ABOUT. I LIVE ON A STREET CALLED BELAND BOULEVARD IN NORTH REDONDO, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25 AND PEOPLE ARE DOING 40. YOU KNOW, WE MAKE A PHONE CALL. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, ETC. OR WHETHER WE CALL BECAUSE THERE'S AN ANIMAL WHO TRAGICALLY LOST ITS LIFE, ETC. I HAVE NOTHING BUT HIGH PRAISE FOR THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE CITY, BUT I JUST TRY TO BE OF SERVICE. SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT I COULD ADD VALUE, I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS OR ISN'T, BUT IF THERE IS, I ALWAYS TRY TO BE IN THERE TO TAKE SOME OF MY EXPERTISE OR KNOWLEDGE AND BASE, ETC. TO TRY TO ADD VALUE TO A CITY THAT I REALLY ENJOY. THAT I FELL IN LOVE WITH IN THE 90S AND MADE A DECISION TO MOVE FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA DOWN HERE SO THAT I COULD BE HERE. BUT THAT'S IT. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD HELP IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF YOU LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION PREVIOUSLY ON ANOTHER ON THE REFERRALS TO STAFF. YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE THE MOVE TO DISSOLVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. WE MAY STAND UP. THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ONCE AN ON CALL, I'LL CALL IT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN THE ON CALL ONE OR SOME OTHER COMMISSION? I SO I JUST FEEL MY, I UNDERSTAND AND I SAW THE ISSUE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. I'M JUST HERE TRYING TO OFFER MY TIME AND OFFER RESOURCES AND OFFER ANY WAY THAT YOU KNOW, YOU SEE, IN A WORLD WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ASSISTANCE IN PUBLIC SERVICE. I USED TO BE INVOLVED IN WHEN I LIVED IN WESTCHESTER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER/PLAYA. I HAD LITTLE KIDS, SO I HAD TO RAISE THEM. SO I STEPPED OUT FOR SOME TIME. AND NOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME I CAN GET BACK IN. YOU CONSIDER OTHER COMMISSIONS? I WOULD CONSIDER OTHER COMMISSIONS. I JUST, I'M TRYING TO HELP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. IT'S NOT MARRIED TO ONE POSITION, BUT I HAVEN'T DRIVEN A BOAT IN A LONG TIME. [LAUGHTER] SO THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S ALWAYS SOME PLACE WITH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY REGULATIONS, BY LAWS, ETC. AND ANYWHERE THAT I COULD FIT IN, I'D BE INTERESTED IN HELPING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC SERVICE. I DID. PREVIOUSLY. SO CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU BALANCE SOME CONFLICTING INTERESTS? YOU KNOW, SOME RESIDENTS MAY WANT, LET'S SAY, A PARKING SPACE HERE, AND THE OTHER 1ST MAY NOT. I'M JUST GIVING A HIGH LEVEL EXAMPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. AND SOMETIMES COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT. AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? I KNOW YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY, BUT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE IN THAT POSITION? I'M VERY COMFORTABLE. I HAVE TO MAKE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO CALL BALLS AND STRIKES EVERY DAY IN WHAT I DO IN LITIGATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ALWAYS HOPE THAT YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CALL FOR THE SITUATION AND UNDERSTANDING. LOOK, YOU CAN'T PUT 1000 PARKING SPACES IN A PLOT OF LAND THAT CAN ONLY ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT. OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS GIVE AND TAKE, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK BROADER THAN IF YOU PUT 1000 PARKING SPACES IN ONE SPOT. WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO TO TRAFFIC CONGESTION, RIGHT? WE'VE ALL BEEN TO AN IN AND OUT, RIGHT? THEY SOUND GREAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LINE OF TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING OUTSIDE THE DOOR THAT COMES WITH THAT. AND AT LEAST IN AND OUTS I GO TO. YEAH. NO, UNDERSTOOD. SO THERE'S ALWAYS A GIVE AND TAKE THAT COME WITH IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. MAYOR ALREADY MENTIONED THAT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST IN ANY FORM. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT A LOT OF OUR COMMISSIONS ARE VERY, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, [01:00:01] AND WE HAVE HERE, WE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN WITH OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS AND COMPLAINTS AND IDEAS. SO ARE YOU PREPARED TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HAPPY THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH TIME WITH US, SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO YOUR COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY TAKE UP SOME OF YOUR TIME READING EMAILS, WATCHING VIDEOS, POTENTIALLY EVEN MEETING WITH THEM, HAVING THEM COME AND TALK TO YOU. I FIND GREAT ENJOYMENT IN LISTENING TO PEOPLE'S ISSUES, WHETHER IT BE MY CLIENTS OR WHETHER THEY BE OUTSIDE THE DOOR AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, RIGHT. AND HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A REMEDY FOR IT. BUT MANY TIMES, WHETHER IT BE ANYWHERE LISTENING, A LOT OF THE TIMES HELPS THE PERSON WITH THEIR GRIEVANCES, RIGHT? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES UP TIME, BUT AT LEAST TALKING OR EXPLAINING THE PROCESS, OR LOOK YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS AND THE PRACTICALLY MAYBE WE CAN'T DO THAT, BUT LET ME EXPLAIN TO THE REASON WHY, AND HOPEFULLY THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OR UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND IT, RATHER THAN JUST SAYING NO. BUT NO, I FEEL I REALLY ENJOY KIND OF LISTENING AND TALKING THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES. AND IF IT'S A LOT OF TIME MY FAMILY ALREADY KNOWS, I TAKE I TELL THEM I ONLY WORK ON DAYS WITH WISE AND, RIGHT? BUT I NEVER WORK BECAUSE I ENJOY WHAT I DO AND FINDING SOLUTIONS OR HOPEFULLY FINDING SOLUTIONS TO ISSUES IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD, RIGHT? AND KIND OF GET YOU UP AT NIGHT AND SAY, HEY, HOW CAN YOU MAKE THIS BETTER? AND YEAH, I HAVE NO NO ISSUE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY A COROLLARY TO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WILL BE, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF REWRITING IT. THE COUNCIL HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RATCHET DOWN AND GET MORE ACTIVE IN IN TAKING ACTION WHEN COUNCIL COMMISSIONERS ARE HAVING ABSENTEEISM PROBLEM. YOU SURE YOU CAN DEVOTE THE TIME TO MONTHLY ATTEND THE MEETING AND DO THE HOMEWORK FOR THE MEETING? YES, SIR. AND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPOUND ON THAT. I THINK AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CALL ME AFTER 9:00 AT NIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY RULE. 9:00. THAT'S A FAIR RULE. THAT'S THE ONLY RULE. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPOUND ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO. BUT NO. JUST WANT A YEAH. BUT YES, I LOOKED AT SO TIME COMMITMENTS AND BEING THERE FOR A TEAM IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS YOU DON'T JOIN A TEAM IF YOU CAN'T BE THERE FOR THE PRACTICE, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN'T BE THERE ALL THE TIME. AND FROM WHAT I SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A THURSDAY A MONTH AND IN THE EVENINGS. SO I DO NOT. DEPENDS ON THE COMMISSION. OBVIOUSLY. ONCE A MONTH. BUT ONCE A MONTH, THOSE TIME COMMITMENTS ABSENT ME BEING IN TRIAL OR ON A VACATION, WHICH IS UNLIKELY. YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE, YEAH. GREAT. I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH BEING ABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. REAL QUICK, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO STAY ON A COMMISSION MEETING PAST 9 P.M., EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T TAKE PHONE CALLS AFTER 9 P.M.? YES. I'LL JUST TREAT IT LIKE TRIAL. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. THOSE RULES GO OUT THE DOOR FOR CERTAIN THINGS. BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, 9:00 IS THE GENERAL RULE. BUT AS LAWYERS ALL KNOW, FOR EVERY RULE, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. MR. GADDIS, YOU MISSED YOUR FIRST CALL. SO THIS IS THE SECOND CALL. [LAUGHTER] I WAS INDISPOSED. WE SAW. WE'RE GOING TO MAXIMIZE OUR PROXIMITY EFFECT ON THIS MICROPHONE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR ANOTHER TERM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE SERVED MORE THAN ONE TERM. NOT QUITE SURE HOW MUCH MORE THAN ONE TERM. IT WAS A YEAR OR TWO. APPOINTED BY BILL BRAND TO REPLACE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT FRANKLY DIDN'T, WHOSE PRIORITIES DIDN'T MATCH HIS IN TERMS OF LAND USE ISSUES. AND HE AND I WORKED ON QUITE A FEW LAND USE AND OTHER ISSUES OVER THE YEARS. AND SO HE WANTED TO CREATE A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT MORE REFLECTED WHAT HE WANTED DONE IN THE CITY. [01:05:02] MAKING DECISIONS ALONG HIS PRIORITIES. AND I'VE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN. I'VE SERVED SOMETHING OVER FOUR YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 5 OR 5 AND A HALF YEARS. AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE WORK WE'VE DONE, AND I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE DOING IT. AND PRIOR TO THAT, I SERVED ON THE GPAC. SO FOR 6 OR 7 YEARS. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAN AND EXECUTING THE PLAN. AND I'M AN ANALYST BY NATURE, AND I ENJOY DOING IT. AND IT GIVES ME A CHANCE TO GIVE BACK TO A CITY THAT I CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT. OKAY. THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER GADDIS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE OVER ALL THESE YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOUR DEDICATION, BECAUSE I'VE NOTED YOU HAVE PROBABLY VERY FEW ABSENCES EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN THE MEETING YOU'VE BEEN THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT CAN YOU SAY YOU'VE LEARNED. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED OVER THE COURSE OF 5 OR 6 YEARS, BEING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER IN REDONDO BEACH. I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE PUT ON OUR DECISIONS MANDATED BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT A LOT BY THE STATE AND THOSE ARE IN FLUX. AND YOU KNOW, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M VERY ACTIVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES, WHICH IS A BALLOT MEASURE AND EDUCATION COMMITTEE, TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES OF 501 C3 AND 501 C4 WHICH ARE ILLUMINATING THE IMPACTS OF THESE CONTINUOUS CREATION OF NEW LAWS. BASICALLY TAKING AWAY LOCAL CONTROL OF LAND USE DECISIONS AND PLANNING COMMISSION IS, IF NOTHING ELSE, A LAND USE COMMISSION MAKING DECISIONS. AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GRABBING POWER OR INFLUENCE. IT'S TO REFLECT THE RESIDENTS DESIRE OF WHAT THEY WANT THEIR CITY TO BE AND NOT HAVE THAT DICTATED FROM ELSEWHERE. RIGHT, AND ONE MORE QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS I ASKED BEFORE I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T DEAL WITH IT MUCH OR YOU DON'T DEAL WITH IT AT ALL BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE STELLAR MARC WIENER AND SEAN SCULLY INTERACTING WITH YOU ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT IF YOU WERE TO ENCOUNTER STAFF THAT YOU FELT WAS STONEWALLING YOU OR NOT ADVANCING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PRIORITIES OR YOUR PRIORITIES AS A COMMISSIONER, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? SO STONEWALLING ARE YOU SAYING THAT I'M ASKING FOR A PIECE OF INFORMATION AND THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING IT OR. SURE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR YOU'VE DIRECTED OR YOU MADE A REFERRAL AND IT HASN'T COME BACK. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. BECAUSE WE ARE CONSTRAINED. OUR COMMISSION IS CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THINGS BECAUSE IT REALLY WE CAN ONLY DELIBERATE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO DELIBERATE. SO WHEN WE DO ASK FOR SOMETHING, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT CONCERNS US, STAFF SAYS, WELL, WE CAN TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL, ASK IF THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WANT YOU TO DELIBERATE. AND IF SO, IT'S BROUGHT BACK FOR OUR DELIBERATION, SO THAT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS A STAFF ISSUE. REALLY, I'VE HAD NO ISSUES WITH OUR STAFF AND I ENJOY WORKING WITH THEM. THEY'RE VERY COMPETENT PEOPLE. AND, AND SO I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THEM. THE OTHER QUESTION IS, I BELIEVE YOU'RE SAYING WITHHOLDING INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, I CALL IT OUT. AND IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE WORKING WITH US NOW THEY'RE FORTHCOMING WITH WHAT WE ASK FOR. I DON'T THINK WE ASK FOR UNREASONABLE THINGS EITHER. SO IT'S A TWO WAY STREET. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. THANK YOU. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THAT YOU FILLED THE ROLE AFTER A COMMISSIONER WAS REMOVED WHO DIDN'T SHARE THE VISION OF OUR FORMER MAYOR, BILL BRAND. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE COMMISSION NOW IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT VISION? I DO, I DO. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DELIBERATED LATELY. ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENT WHEN MAYOR BRAND WAS HERE. SPECIFICALLY. BUT BOTH THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMISSION MOST OF WHOM WERE ALSO WORKING WITH BILL ON ISSUES. AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF MOST OF [01:10:07] THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THEM ON THE ON THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE, ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT BILL? WELL. BILL'S VISION FOR THE CITY. I WILL TELL YOU, I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL, THE FIVE OF US. THE SIX OF US ARE ELECTED BY OUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE VISION FOR THE CITY IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME. YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AND WE DON'T OFTEN ALL VOTE TOGETHER. SO THERE ISN'T ONE OPINION ALL THE TIME. THERE'S A REASON THERE'S FIVE OF US. SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW ABOUT MANY THINGS, INCLUDING PLANNING AND THE VISION FOR THE CITY AS IT GROWS. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME FROM PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME. BUT I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL ON A PARTICULAR THING, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF AT THE MEETING? AT THE COUNCIL MEETING? OR AT YOUR COMMISSION MEETING? AT THE COMMISSION MEETING. AND THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHERE NOT ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION WERE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. COUNCIL HAD DIFFERENT THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE SERVED OUR PURPOSE. OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DELIBERATE, TO STUDY THE INFORMATION, ASK STAFF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE DONE HERE OR WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THIS DIRECTION RATHER THAN THAT DIRECTION? AND THEN WE DELIBERATE, WE VOTE, WE MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, SENT TO COUNCIL, AND THEN IT'S SENT TO COUNCIL. BUT AT THAT POINT, WE'VE DONE OUR JOB. RIGHT. SO. OKAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. YEAH, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT? THAT'S ALL. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. KIND OF A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC SAID SINCE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY BILL BRANDS VISION, WHAT IF OUR CURRENT MAYOR HAD A DIFFERENT VISION? WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONE OF US COMES UP, YOU KNOW, HAS A SET OF PRIORITIES AND AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF THE CITY. TO SAY THAT THE CURRENT PLANNING COMMISSION IS CONSISTENT WITH BILL'S VISION FOR THE CITY SORT OF IMPLIES THAT ALL OF OUR VOTES ARE UNANIMOUS, AND THEY ARE NOT. AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROPORTION OF VOTES THAT ARE UNANIMOUS VERSUS NOT UNANIMOUS, BUT NOBODY HAS THE EXPECTATION ON THE COMMISSION THAT THE VOTES ARE GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS AND THEY'RE NOT. BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHARE A VISION FOR THE CITY AND YET NOT AGREE ON A SPECIFIC SUBJECT. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. SO IT REALLY IS A MATTER OF HIM PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION WHO SHARE HIS PRIORITIES. AND THEY DO. AND THOSE PRIORITIES ARE HELD INSIDE OF US. IT ISN'T. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T ADOPT THOSE VALUES IN AND SETS OF PRIORITIES TO PLEASE HIM. WE WOUND UP WORKING ON ISSUES WITH HIM BECAUSE WE DID SHARE THOSE THINGS. BUT THOSE PRIORITIES AND VALUES WE HAD LONG BEFORE WE EVEN MET HIM. SO AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A BORN LEADER, AN ORGANIZER, AND DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF BRINGING TOGETHER A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SHARED HIS PRIORITIES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. IT DID. AND THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. AND I APPRECIATE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE UNANIMOUS VOTES, BECAUSE THEN YOU ONLY NEED ONE PERSON IF EVERYTHING IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANKS. OKAY. THE NEXT I HAVE HERE IS ELIZABETH KEBSCHULL. I HOPE I SAID YOUR NAME RIGHT. YOU DID. HI, I'M BETH KEBSCHULL. I AM INTERESTED IN PERHAPS SERVING ON THE COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMISSION. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON ANOTHER COMMISSION. IF THAT ONE IS NOT, OR IF THAT ONE IS NOT GOING FORWARD. [01:15:05] WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME? SURE. OKAY. WHY DO YOU WANT TO SERVE AND. SURE. WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S DRIVING YOU TO VOLUNTEER? YEAH. I'M A RECENTLY RETIRED SOCIAL WORKER. I AM A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER WHO WORKED FOR USC STUDENT COUNSELING AND MENTAL HEALTH FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS. MOST RECENTLY THERE I DIRECTED CRISIS SERVICES FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE SUFFERING MENTAL HEALTH CRISES. WORKED A LOT WITH THE OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS THE CAMPUS POLICE, ON SOME WAYS TO PROVIDE CRISIS SERVICES AFTER HOURS. WE SENT THERAPISTS WITH A POLICEMAN AND WE WORKED OUT ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT PROGRAM, AND THAT GAVE ME SOME EXPERIENCE THAT I THINK MIGHT BE USEFUL TO THE CITY. I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR, FOR THE THE OUTREACH TO HOMELESS AND THE HOMELESS NAVIGATOR. YOU KNOW, JUST ALSO JUST KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE AND THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, RESPECT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND TRYING TO BRING THAT TO TOGETHER TO FIND THE GREATEST GOOD IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER PEOPLE, SO, JUST OFFERING MY SERVICES IN CASE I CAN BE OF USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? OH, JUST ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON YOUR WORK WITH USC AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE IN TERMS OF THE CRISIS, AND WAS THERE A PARTICULAR FOCUS? WAS IT LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR WAS IT HOMELESS OR JUST CRISES IN GENERAL AS THEY CAME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? IT WAS PRIMARILY STUDENTS WHO WERE IN CRISIS, PERHAPS WHO WERE SUICIDAL. OKAY. YEAH. AT RISK FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY OR SOMEONE ELSE'S. AND THAT WOULD BE AFTER HOURS. SO OVERNIGHT AND ON WEEKENDS. WE WORKED WITH THE, THE CAMPUS POLICE TO HAVE A THERAPIST GO ALONG WITH THE CAMPUS POLICE SO THAT WE COULD DO THE BEST THAT COULD BE DONE FOR THE STUDENT AT THAT TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD. THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. SINCE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION CHANGES. IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE NEW POLICE FIRE SOCIAL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TERM OF THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE. WOULD YOU BE WILLING AND INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE? I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT, OR ANOTHER COMMISSION, YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. QUICK QUESTION, GIVEN YOUR BACKGROUND, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ALLCOVE AND THE BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT, THE OUTREACH THAT, OR SERVICE THEY'RE PROVIDING WITH OUR YOUTH HERE? SOMEWHAT. YES. WE CAN, I KNOW YOU EMAILED ME, SO I KNOW WE CAN CONNECT OFFLINE ABOUT IT AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF VERY HELPFUL SKILLS THAT COULD FIT NICELY WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING. OKAY. SO MAYBE WE'RE THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES. IF WE DIDN'T FIND A COMMISSION THAT FIT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME VERY UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE. IF WE FOUND ANOTHER WAY FOR YOU TO CONTRIBUTE IN A VOLUNTEER BASIS, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND THANKS FOR APPLYING. AND LIKE I SAID, YOU HAD VERY UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS. WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO UTILIZE THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW YOU'RE DOING? YEAH. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. THE NEXT IS ANU KUMAR. WAS SHE ONLINE? SHE'S GOING TO BE ABSENT TODAY. OH, SHE'S THE ONE WHO EMAILED US. SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. OKAY, THE NEXT IS LINDA MARR. HEY, Y'ALL. I'M LINDA MARR. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE IN 2008. AND I'VE JUST GROWN TO LOVE THE COMMUNITY. I'M A NONFICTION WRITER/PRODUCER, WHICH MEANS I DID A LOT OF WORK FOR HGTV. AND I SPENT FIVE YEARS RUNNING A NEWS MAGAZINE SHOW. I'VE BEEN WORKING AT HOME FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND I'VE BECOME INCREASINGLY INTERESTED IN REDONDO. [01:20:02] I MEAN, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE GROWN TO REALLY LOVE IT. AND I'VE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN KIND OF HOW TO, YOU KNOW, HOW TO BRING REDONDO TOGETHER AS A WHOLE. I MEAN, THEY TALK ABOUT NORTH AND SOUTH REDONDO, AND THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. AND, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WANT TO THINK OF REDONDO AS A MARRIAGE. I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO SEE THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BENEFIT EVERYBODY AND HOW IT CAN BECOME BETTER AND BETTER. IS THAT IT? AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. THAT'S SWEET, THAT'S GOOD. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT I DO ON NEWS MAGAZINES. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO WORKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. I TEND TO BE VERY QUIET. BUT I'VE RUN SHOWS WITH WITH QUITE HUGE BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. I'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR EMMYS. I'VE WON TELLYS. I'VE DONE A LOT, BUT I'M VERY NERVOUS SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. YOU'RE DOING FINE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. SURE. THANK YOU, MISS MARR, FOR APPLYING. YOU APPLIED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION, IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, I THOUGHT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, HEDGE MY BET. NO, ABSOLUTELY. SHOTGUN APPROACH IS THE BEST WAY TO GO. WITH REGARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I ASKED THIS QUESTION, BUT DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE REDONDO BEACHES, THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH? AND IF SO, HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO? YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE MY BEST FRIEND LIVED IN THE PALISADES AND HER HOUSE BURNED DOWN, AND SHE RENTED. SHE'S NOW IN A CONDO IN THE VILLAGE IN SOUTH REDONDO. SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO SPEND DOWN THERE WITH HER AS WELL. WAY DOWN THERE? YEAH, WAY, WAY. AND IT'S REALLY NICE. NORTH SOUTH REDONDO. [LAUGHTER][INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW, AND IT DOES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FRANKLY, YES, IT DOES SEEM LIKE TWO DIFFERENT REDONDO. SOUTH REDONDO. I MEAN, WE MOVED MY HUSBAND OWNED, THE FAMILY OWNED A SMALL MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN SANTA ANA, AND I WORKED UP AT ITV IN THE SHERMAN OAKS, IN THE GALLERIA. SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEPLACE WHERE WE'D BE EQUALLY MISERABLE FOR COMMUTES. AND WE LOOKED AT SOUTH REDONDO, BUT FRANKLY, IT TOOK LIKE 25 MINUTES TO GET TO A FREEWAY. AND SO WE MOVED TO NORTH REDONDO. AND I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I KNEW REALLY WAS LIKE HOW TO GET ON A FREEWAY. AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN LIVING HERE, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY AND I'VE REALLY GOTTEN TO, LIKE, ALL OF IT. YOU KNOW, BUT I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENCES. AND SOUTH REDONDO IS ACTUALLY VERY COMPACT. I MEAN, I'M ACTUALLY NOW SHOCKED HOW HOW MANY CONDOS AND ALL THERE IS DOWN THERE BECAUSE I REALLY WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. BUT NORTH REDONDO HAS A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, ISN'T THE GALLERIA IN NORTH REDONDO? IT HAS A LOT MORE BUSINESSES, I GUESS. AND SO IT DOES SEEM KIND OF DIFFERENT. I LIVE ON GRAHAM. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3, I LIVE ON GRAHAM. AND THAT'S KIND OF A BIG SQUARE OF COMMUNITY. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH. I MEAN. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT VOCAL ABOUT ARTESIA ON FACEBOOK, AND I BACKED OFF BECAUSE I ACTUALLY REALIZE HOW LITTLE I DO KNOW, AND WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO KIND OF SOLVE IT. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE PLANNING, BECAUSE I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING AWAY FROM ANYTHING TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOMEBODY ELSE SOMETHING. I JUST BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT A GOOD PLAN IS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE NO OTHER. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. IF YOU DON'T MAKE IT ONTO A COMMISSION AND YOU SAID YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT ARTESIA. DID YOU HEAR RICK MCQUILLIN SPEAK EARLIER? BECAUSE HE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP HIM OUT THERE. AND HE'S WORKING ON THINGS WITH ARTESIA. YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO. THAT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD REACH OUT AND GET STARTED, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT INTO A CITY COMMISSION. SURE. YES, DEFINITELY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LINDA. NEXT IS BENJAMIN MORSE. [01:25:01] BENJAMIN IS ONLINE. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO PROJECT? IT'S JUST AUDIO. YES. OKAY. IT'S AUDIO. ARE YOU THERE, BENJAMIN? YES. I WAS JUST GIVEN THE OPTION TO UNMUTE. HELLO, MAYOR AND ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BENJAMIN MORSE. I HAVE LIVED, I WAS ACTUALLY BORN AND RAISED IN MANHATTAN BEACH BACK WHEN IT WAS COOL, BUT I MOVED TO REDONDO BEACH IN 1995 WHEN MANHATTAN BEACH WAS NO LONGER COOL, AND SO ABOUT 30 YEARS IN THE CITY. I SAT FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS BECAUSE I CAME ON AS AN EMERGENCY FILL, FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, RIP. SO I WAS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TERMS THERE. I WAS TWICE ELECTED THE CHAIR, AND I WAS ALSO VICE CHAIR ALONG THE WAY. AND I AM INTERESTED IN THE PLANNING, I'M SORRY. I'M READING SOMETHING HERE. I'M INTERESTED IN THE HARBOR COMMISSION, AND MY ANGLE FOR THE HARBOR COMMISSION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT I'M A FOURTH-GENERATION BOATER. THAT'S NOT PARTICULARLY DIFFERENT, BUT I HAVE A SAILBOAT. MY FAMILY HAS HAD A COUPLE OF SMALL SAILBOATS IN REDONDO BEACH. I HAVE HAD ONE CURRENTLY. NOW THE ONE I HAVE NOW, I HAVE FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS. I HAD LIVEABOARD STATUS I DON'T ANYMORE. AND MY ANGLE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT I ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS THAT SERVICES BOATS IN THE MARINAS OF REDONDO BEACH. AND MY FOCUS HERE IS SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT. AND ALSO SORT OF A TRICKY ISSUE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT I MAY BE THE ONLY 1 OR 1 OF ONLY A COUPLE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY LICENSED AND INSURED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS THERE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT FOR THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY, OF THE MARINAS, THE MARINA OWNERS AND LESSOR, AND ALSO OF THOSE THAT OWN BOATS IN THE MARINA. SO AS A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT JUST AS A BOATER AND SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE A BEAUTIFUL VISION OF THE HARBOR MOVING FORWARD, BUT ALSO HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THE AWARENESS OF SAFETY, NOT JUST SAFETY OF HOW NON-BOATERS AND BOATERS INTERACT, BUT ACTUALLY HOW THOSE THAT SERVICE THE MARINA, INTERACT WITH THE MARINA AND THE LEGALITY OF THOSE THAT DO SO. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO, YOU MENTIONED YOU HAD A BUSINESS THAT SERVES BOATERS. WHAT IS THAT BUSINESS? YES, IT'S CALLED CABIN CLEANERS. AND IT IS AN ETHICAL AND ORGANIC YACHT CLEANING, REPAIR AND MANAGEMENT BUSINESS BASED IN REDONDO BEACH. THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN STARTED. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED. AND THE MAIN FOCUS IS REDONDO BEACH. WE ALSO DO SOME WORK IN MARINA DEL REY AND IN SAN PEDRO IN LONG BEACH, BUT THE MAIN FOCUS IS REDONDO BEACH. GREAT. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO A YACHT BROKER, AND I HAVE AN OFFICE THERE AT SHORELINE YACHT GROUP AT PORTOFINO. SO I DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME RIGHT THERE ON THE WATER. OKAY, THANKS. SURE. THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS EXACTLY WHAT BUSINESS HE HAD. OKAY, SO THAT COULD ANSWER. RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. HELLO, MR. MORSE. HELLO. WITH RESPECT TO THE HARBOR WHAT WOULD BE YOUR VISION FOR THE HARBOR, FOR THE WATERFRONT, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED? IF YOU COULD FOCUS IN ON THAT. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A VERY WIDE VISION, TO BE HONEST ON THAT. I THINK THAT I DON'T WANT TO SOUND TRITE IN SAYING THAT WE HAVE A WILDLY UNIQUE WATERFRONT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT, BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND INTERESTED IN THIS SINCE 2000 WITH THE ORIGINAL MAJOR REVISIONS PLANNED THERE. AND I DON'T THINK HAVING A FIVE-STORY PARKING STRUCTURE AND A MOVIE HOUSE ON THE SAND IS THE RIGHT ROUTE. AND I THINK HAVING A LOT OF EMPTY BUILDINGS THAT ARE DECREPIT IS ALSO NOT THE RIGHT ROUTE. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR A MIDDLE GROUND WITH RESPECT TO WHAT OUR WATERFRONT CAN BE. AND HOWEVER I CAN BE HELPFUL IN MOVING ANYTHING FORWARD THAT IS DEEMED TO BE [01:30:04] THE RIGHT DIRECTION BY THE COUNCIL. I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT FOR FOR ME TO TELL YOU THAT I'M ALL ONE WAY OR ALL THE OTHER WOULD JUST BE NOT TRUE, WOULD JUST BE NOT TRUE. SO I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND A LITTLE OF THE GROUND, I JUST, AND I DON'T ALSO WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN EASILY SWAYED, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE IS JUST A PERFECT VISION IN MY MIND. I THINK IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH WHAT'S BEST FOR THE NEXT 50 TO 100 YEARS OF REDONDO BEACH, NOT MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES. THANK YOU. AND FOR THAT MIDDLE GROUND THAT YOU MENTIONED. BENJAMIN, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION FOR THE MIDDLE GROUND? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK OVERTLY COMMERCIALIZED, SOMETHING THAT REALLY PLAYS TO THE STRENGTHS OF NOT JUST THE GEOGRAPHICAL SPECIFICS OF REDONDO BEACH BUT ALSO TAKE INTO MIND EVERYTHING LIKE TRAFFIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO, SUPPORT SMALLER BUSINESSES AND NOT JUST MAKE IT ALL ABOUT THE BIG BUSINESSES AND THE BIG CHAINS. THANKS. HOW IMPORTANT, IN YOUR VIEW, BENJAMIN, IS REVENUE GENERATION IN THE HARBOR, IN THE WATERFRONT, REVENUE GENERATION? I THINK REVENUE GENERATION IS IMPORTANT. BUT I ALSO THINK, LIKE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND PERHAPS EVEN MORE, IN THE CASE OF THE HARBOR, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE WITH NOT JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, BUT THE SOCIOLOGICAL IMPACT THAT WE CAN HAVE BY CHANGING THE ENVIRONMENT PERHAPS TOO RADICALLY FOR HOMEOWNERS OR FOR TRAFFIC. AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE A PROBLEM AND A BOTTLENECK WITHOUT PROPER PLANNING. SO I DO HOPE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN WORK IN HAND WITH THE HARBOR COMMISSION AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH A BALANCE THAT THAT DOES MEET THAT MIDDLE GROUND. THAT'S MY OPINION ON THAT. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED THAT, I THINK YOU SAID YOU WERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION A FEW YEARS BACK. YOU SERVED TWO TERMS, ONE AS CHAIR, IS THAT CORRECT? ALMOST. THAT WAS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. I SERVED TWO AND A HALF TERMS ON THERE. WELL, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THAT. AND THEN THERE'S BEEN SORT OF A HIATUS, NOW YOU'RE BACK. WHAT HAS INSPIRED YOU? WHAT LED YOU TO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH COMMISSIONS DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME? AND WHAT'S LED YOU NOW TO INSPIRED YOU TO COME BACK, IF ANYTHING? I MOVED TO TORRANCE AND NOW I MOVED BACK. [LAUGHTER] I WAS JUST RIGHT ON THE. IT WAS THAT I WAS JUST ON THE BORDER AND LIKE, I COULD COME AND YELL AT THE MEETINGS, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE SAME IMPACT FOR ME AS BEING ON A COMMISSION. SO I DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT. BUT NOW I'M BACK. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T THE ONLY REASON. IT'S JUST THAT I REALLY FEEL COMPELLED BECAUSE THERE IS THIS THING THAT I HAVE BEEN NOTICING WHERE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF, SORT OF WILD WEST STYLE RUNNING AROUND DOWN THERE IN THE MARINA. AND WHEN I TALKED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT IT, THEY JUST SHRUG THEIR SHOULDERS AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. IT'S SORT OF LIKE WITH THE AIRBNB ISSUE, YOU HAVE TO BE STANDING THERE AT THE MOMENT AND VISUALLY SEE THE CASH EXCHANGE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, FOR ANYBODY TO PROVE THAT THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE SAME WAY, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE, AT THE MOMENT, A BOAT OWNER IS EXCHANGING MONEY FOR SERVICES WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT WORKING LEGALLY IN OUR CITY. AND FOR THOSE LIKE MYSELF THAT ARE WORKING LEGALLY AND HAVE ALL THE PROPER INSURANCES AND LICENSURE AND ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS ABOVE BOARD. I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST TRY TO AVOID THOSE PEOPLE AND THAT'S GREAT. EXCEPT FOR I GET HANDED A HEADACHE OFTENTIMES WHERE SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING WRONG OR ILLEGALLY, AND THEN IT SORT OF CASTS A SHADOW ON ALL OF US THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. AND I JUST I HATE SEEING PEOPLE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. AND IT'S TOUGH FOR BUSINESSES, AS IS. BUT WHEN THERE'S THOSE THAT ARE DOING ILLEGALLY AND UNDERCUTTING THOSE THAT ARE DOING IT LEGALLY I FEEL LIKE I'VE COME UP WITH SOME GREAT WAYS TO HELP THAT. AND ULTIMATELY, IT REALLY DOES HELP THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY AND OF THE LEASERS AND THE BOAT OWNERS IN THE CITY. THANK YOU BENJAMIN. THANK YOU MAYOR. SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. [01:35:05] ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE HARBOR COMMISSION IS THERE'S A CRITERIA FOR WHO FITS AND WHAT SLOTS THEY FILL. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 12 OR 13 DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU CAN REPRESENT. AND WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE PER GROUP. AND WE HAVE EXISTING A BUSINESS OWNER AND A BOAT OWNER OF THE CRITERIA FOR HARBOR COMMISSION. DO YOU FILL ANY OF THE OTHER MISSING CRITERIA? WELL CAN I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH THAT QUESTION? SURE. WHAT OTHER PARTICULAR CRITERIA ARE YOU LOOKING TO HAVE FILLED? I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WHEN I APPOINT WHEN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO A POINT, I WILL MAKE SURE THEY FIT IN ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT IS NOT ALREADY TAKEN. SO, PERFECT. THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ALL 12, RIGHT? BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF HE COULD GIVE US ENOUGH OF THOSE HE CAN FILL. SOUNDS LIKE HE DOESN'T KNOW ANY. SO MAYBE HE COULD FILL UP WITH AN EMAIL TO THE MAYOR TO SAY, HERE'S ALL THE ALL THE BOXES I COULD CHECK OFF. YEP. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. ARE YOU SURE YOU CAN COMMIT THE TIME ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO DO BOTH THE HOMEWORK AND ATTEND THE THE HARBOR COMMISSION MEETINGS, OR WHICHEVER. YOU ALSO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY AND SUSPENSION APPEALS BOARD, WHICH RARELY MEET. SO DO YOU HAVE THE TIME TO DEVOTE TO THESE COMMISSION POTENTIALS? I DO. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THERE'S ONE MORE. LATE, LATE, LATE. I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT COMING DOWN AND YELLING AT US OR YELLING. FROM TORRENCE. IF OR. YEAH. IF YOU WERE ON A COMMISSION AND YOU FELT LIKE YOU WEREN'T GETTING WHAT YOU WANTED, NEEDED, OR YOUR INSTRUCTIONS WEREN'T BEING FOLLOWED BY STAFF. HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? I WOULD SEND AN EMAIL. TO WHOM? I WOULD SEND AN EMAIL TO THE HEAD OF STAFF. AND STATING? THAT I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT I MADE A DIRECT REQUEST AND OR HAD A DIRECT QUESTION AND IT WASN'T ANSWERED TO THE FULFILLMENT OF MY HOPES. AND THIS WAS THE QUESTION. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. AND IF THAT STAFF PERSON IGNORED YOU, THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WELL, I'M IN DISTRICT 1, SO I WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY SEND AN EMAIL TO MY DISTRICT 1 COUNCIL MEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANKS AGAIN. OKAY. IT'S, HE'S NOT HERE. IS RODNEY RAMCHARAN ONLINE? NO, BUT THERE'S A PHONE CALL. I'M NOT SURE WHO IT IS. AND THERE'S. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A VOICEMAIL, BUT HE DIDN'T RESPOND. OKAY, SO LET'S SEE AFTER RODNEY IS THERRAN ROBINSON. I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE. I DON'T. OKAY. NOPE. NOT ON ZOOM. WE DO HAVE PAUL SAMARAS ON ZOOM. I THINK THAT'S NEXT. BUT I'M GOING BY THE ORDER OF THESE. I THINK HE IS. YEAH. PAUL SAMARAS. YOU THERE PAUL? PAUL, YOU MAY SPEAK. PAUL. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE. LET'S SEE. RIDER SULIKOWSKI. THAT'S ANOTHER LEFT VOICEMAIL WITH NO RESPONSE. HOW ABOUT TRENT TURNER? GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TRENT TURNER, AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO APPLY FOR A POSITION IN THE FINANCE AND BUDGET COMMISSION. I'M VERY PROUD TO STATE THAT I'M A LIFELONG NATIVE OF REDONDO BEACH. I WAS EDUCATED BY THE SCHOOLS OF THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, STARTING AT BERYL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, PARRAS MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEN FINALLY REDONDO UNIFIED HIGH SCHOOL. MY WIFE, DANIELLE, IS ACTUALLY REDONDO BEACH NATIVE AS WELL, AND WE HAVE STARTED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE IN REDONDO BEACH AS WELL. [01:40:07] SO OUR TWO YOUNG KIDS, HOLTON AND LILY, HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW IN OUR FOOTSTEPS. AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE. AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY. AS A BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF AND AS A FAMILY MAN THAT'S STARTING MY FAMILY. I AM THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FRESH IDEAS AND OPINIONS AND OFFER IT TO THE CONTINUED PROGRESSION OF THIS CITY. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE FINANCIAL WORLD. I'M A FINANCIAL ADVISOR BY PROFESSION. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE AND IDEAS WILL BE THOUGHT OF AS VALUABLE TO THE COMMISSION. SHOULD I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY? ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DEGREES AND OR TRAINING IN FINANCE? SO I HAVE AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE FROM EL CAMINO. MY AREA OF CONCENTRATION AND STUDIES FROM RUTGERS UNIVERSITY WAS IN ECONOMICS. I HAVE CREDENTIALS. IT'S CALLED A CEPA, WHICH IS A CERTIFIED EXIT PLANNING ADVISOR. I'M ALSO A CHARTERED RETIREMENT PLANNING SPECIALIST AS WELL, MEANING THAT I'M AN EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO RETIREMENT PLANS FOR BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. LOVELY TO SEE A DISTRICT 3 PERSON HERE, THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND ALSO YOU HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS, MONTHLY MEETINGS, IS IT SOMETHING YOU CAN COMMIT TO? YES.IN FACT, I THINK IT'S PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRY AND LEAVE A GREAT CITY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO GROW UP INTO. SO I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. GREAT. AND I THINK JUST THE OTHER QUESTION I KNOW WE TALKED; YOU HAD PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR SEVERAL COMMISSIONS. BUT RIGHT NOW YOUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY EXPERIENCE WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST VALUE, YES. OKAY. AND THEN, I GUESS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATIONS? AND IN YOUR OPINION, HOW CAN I DO THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE? ATTEND MEETINGS. AND I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY AS COUNCIL AND THE ROLE OF COMMISSIONERS. SO I WOULD SAY THAT OUR EXPECTATION OR I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF MY EXPECTATION FOR COMMISSIONERS IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU'RE ATTENDING, BUT ALSO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT HAPPENING OR SOMETHING YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE YOU CAN REACH TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT ALSO WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF YOUR COMMISSION, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED, I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR PURPOSE TO DIG INTO CERTAIN SUBJECTS, AND THEN LET US KNOW WHERE WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING, IN YOUR OPINION, AS A COMMISSION, AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS COMMUNICATED TO US. SO THAT WOULD BE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO ADD TO THAT. I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT I WAS ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION BEFORE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL. AND I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THERE WERE COMMISSIONS WHERE PEOPLE WERE MISSING MEETINGS WITHOUT CALLING AHEAD. WEREN'T PREPARED FOR MEETINGS, WEREN'T SHOWING UP. AND I WOULD SAY, JUST TREAT YOUR JOB AS A COMMISSIONER AS YOU WOULD YOUR PROFESSIONAL JOB. OBVIOUSLY IT'S VOLUNTARY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL, YOU WOULD PREPARE FOR MEETINGS, READ THE DOCUMENTS AND AGENDAS AHEAD OF TIME, COME PREPARED SHOW UP ON TIME. AND IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THINGS COME UP. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A MEETING YOU WOULD CONTACT THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF JUST TO LET THEM KNOW. BUT THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD IN THE BUSINESS WORLD. AND, I MEAN, IT WASN'T ALWAYS HAPPENING ON ALL THE COMMISSIONS THAT WAY. SO. YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO ALLOW THE APPLICANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS. OKAY. SORRY. SORRY. WE LET THAT ONE SLIDE FROM HERE ON OUT. IT WAS A RELEVANT QUESTION, THOUGH, FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR. EXPECTATIONS. THAT WAS A CHILL QUESTION FOR EVERYONE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. BY THE WAY, ARE YOU STARTING KINDERGARTEN IN THE FALL? SO, MY SON HAS JUST FINISHED KINDERGARTEN AND WILL BE IN FIRST GRADE. [01:45:01] MY DAUGHTER IS GOING TO START. I MAY SEE YOU AT BARYL. SORRY, AT JEFFERSON NEXT YEAR. GREAT. GREAT. HE ALREADY GRADUATED FROM EL CAMINO. QUESTION FOR ME. YEAH. SO SPECIFICALLY ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION, THERE WAS RECENTLY AN ISSUE WHERE THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION WANTED MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE HOMELESS PROGRAM EXPENDITURES AND DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE GETTING THEM OR GETTING A CLEAR ENOUGH PICTURE ABOUT HOW MONEY WAS BEING SPENT IN THE HOMELESS PROGRAM. IF YOU ENCOUNTERED THAT SITUATION AT THE HOMELESS PROGRAM OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN THE CITY, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS IT? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL WORLD IS THAT NUMBERS ARE PRETTY CLEAR, RIGHT? THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE. SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF THE BUDGET IS NOT ALIGNING AND THE MATH IS JUST NOT MATHING, THERE'S AN OBVIOUS MISS OF INFORMATION THERE. AND I THINK IT MAKES IT QUITE OBVIOUS THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE DISCOVERED. WELL, SO LET'S SAY THEY GIVE YOU A BIG NUMBER UP HERE OF A DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET, BUT YOU WANT TO FIND OUT THE DETAILS OF NUMBERS DOWN HERE. AND YOU WEREN'T GETTING IT FROM STAFF. SO HOW WOULD, YOU HOW WOULD YOU PURSUE THAT FURTHER IF YOU WANTED TO? WELL, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M UNEXPERIENCED WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROTOCOLS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WITH ANY KIND OF BUDGET THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF AN ITEMIZATION AS THINGS ARE CONTINUING TO BE SPENT AND MONIES ARE ALLOCATED FOR. SO I GUESS IT WOULD BE JUST A MATTER OF FINDING THE CORRECT PERSON THAT HAS ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. AND IF YOU IN YOUR SEARCH COULDN'T FIND THAT PERSON, THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT BUDGETING IS RATHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION, SO I'D HAVE TO ESCALATE IT TO WHATEVER EXTENT NECESSARY TO GET THE NECESSARY INFORMATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. KIND OF SUCKS TO BE IN THE W'S, DOES IT? SO, MR. WOODMAN, YOU'RE UP. HAWAII IS WORSE. YES. HI, I'M JERRY WOODHAM, AND I'M APPLYING FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS ON BUDGET AND FINANCE. I SERVED A TWO YEAR PARTIAL TERM, ONE FULL FOUR YEAR TERM, AND I'M APPLYING FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEAR TERM. IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING SIX YEARS. WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE, VERY FORTUNATE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE REFINANCING OF THE CALPERS DEBT ISSUE, AND IT'S RARE ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS THAT MOMENTOUS FOR THE CITY. I MEAN, WE WE HAD $215 MILLION OF DEBT TO CALPERS. WE WERE PAYING 7% INTEREST ON THAT. AND WE HAD SOME OPPOSITION WITHIN THE CITY AND EVEN ON BUDGET AND FINANCE TO DO THE REFINANCING BECAUSE THE COMMENT WAS, WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE INCURRING DEBT. THE REALITY IS YOU ALREADY HAD DEBT, AND ALL WE WERE DOING WAS REFINANCING IT FROM 7% PER YEAR TO 2.8. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S RARE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INPUT INTO AN ISSUE LIKE THAT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT BUDGET AND FINANCE IS WORKING ON NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, YOU MENTIONED THE HOMELESS OR THE HOMELESS ISSUE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING ON THE HOMELESS ISSUE, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCES IS WORKING HARD TO GET IT, THAT IT'S NOT AN EASY ANSWER TO GET AT. THERE ARE SOME DIRECT CHARGES, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS, WHERE STAFF TIME IS SPENT ON THAT, AND IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY THAT PARTICULAR EXPENSE. SO THAT'S ONE AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT. ANOTHER AREA IS THE QUESTION OF CALPERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT CALPERS INVESTMENTS, CALPERS FEES. WE'VE STARTED HAVING AT LEAST ONE MEETING PER YEAR DEALING WITH NOTHING BUT THE CALPERS ISSUE. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM CALPERS ONLINE AND IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL. RELATED TO CALPERS IS ANOTHER EXPENSE ISSUE WE'RE WORKING ON, AND THAT IS TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING FOR RETIREMENT BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES. WE MAKE AN ANNUAL PAYMENT JUST FOR REGULAR RETIREMENT EXPENSES. THAT'S WHAT THE EMPLOYER PAYS. WE ALSO HAVE DEBT SERVICE ON THE BOND ISSUE THAT WE DID FOUR YEARS AGO. AND WE NOW HAVE A NEW UAL THAT'S GENERATED SINCE WE DID THE BOND ISSUE. AND SO THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE MADE A SUBSTANTIAL PAYMENT ON THAT. SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF EXPENSES ALL RELATED TO RETIREMENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW. AND AFTER, IF YOU'VE BEEN READING INFORMATION ON MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, [01:50:03] IN MANY PLACES WHERE THE RETIREMENT EXPENSE IS CROWDING OUT SPENDING MONEY ON STREETS PARKS AND SO FORTH. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT WE'RE IN THAT CATEGORY YET, BUT WE WANT TO START IDENTIFYING THOSE EXPENSES SO THAT OVER TIME WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S BECOMING WORSE OR JUST A LITTLE WORSE OR A LOT WORSE. SO WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPENSES IN THAT CATEGORY AS WELL. SO IT'S BEEN A VERY INTERESTING SIX YEARS. AND I THINK THAT OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WE HAVE OUR PLATEFUL WITH OTHER THINGS WE'D LIKE TO DO AND INFORMATION WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY, TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEAR TERM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT WHAT YOUR FINANCIAL EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS CERTIFICATIONS MIGHT BE. WELL, I RETIRED EIGHT YEARS AGO. PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS, THE LAST 15 YEARS OF MY CAREER I SPENT AS AN INVESTMENT CONSULTANT WITH A FIRM NAMED MERCER. FOR THE THREE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY PENSION FUND. FOR THE FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT TREASURER AND CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER FOR SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY. AND FOR THE 15 BEFORE THAT TREASURER AND CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER FOR WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN SAINT LOUIS. I'VE GOT AN MBA FROM CHAPMAN. GOOD SCHOOL. SO JUST STARTING. [LAUGHTER] SO I, WE MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO. BETWEEN MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS AND SEVEN GRANDKIDS IN THE LA AREA. YOU RARELY RETIRE TO CALIFORNIA. YOU RETIRE FROM CALIFORNIA. BUT, YEAH, WE'RE HERE FOR THE DURATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? JUST I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY LOST THE HEAD TO THE GAVEL, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIND IT? [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR ALL THAT. I SAID IF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION SOMEHOW LOST THE HEAD TO THE GAVEL, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIND IT? WE'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST. HE SAT NEXT TO ME WHEN HE WAS CHAIR AND WE REMOVED THE HEAD FROM HIS GAVEL. SO HE HAD JUST A STICK. SO EVERY TIME I WAS READY TO START. THEN I FOUND IT. RIGHT, EVERY TIME I WAS READY TO START THE MEETING SUDDENLY THERE WAS NO HEAD ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WOODHAM, FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION AND YOUR SAGE ADVICE TO DO THAT PENSION OBLIGATION BOND. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HOW YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE HANDLED THE REQUESTS OF STAFF TO DIG INTO THE HOMELESS EXPENDITURE DATA? OH, I THINK IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. BUT THE DIFFICULTY IS IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WITH THE HOMELESS ISSUE AGAIN THE ISSUE IS, WHAT CAN WE IDENTIFY THAT'S A SPECIFIC EXPENSE? AND THERE'S CAPITAL EXPENSE AND OPERATING EXPENSE. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR BOTH OF THOSE SEPARATE. BUT ON THE OPERATING EXPENSE, THE DIFFICULTY IS SOME ITEMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HOMELESS. AND OTHERS, SUCH AS THE EXPENSE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS MIXED. IT'S PARTIALLY FOR JUST FOR THE HOMELESS AND PARTIALLY FOR OTHERWISE. AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO GET AT. IT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO BREAK THAT EXPENSE OUT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY HOLDUP. EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AND THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING IT. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF APPLYING THE TIME TO DO IT. AND THE STAFF INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE WORKING ON IT, OR THEY NEEDED FURTHER ACTION BY COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT? NO, I THINK STEPHANIE MEYER IS THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AND SHE'S ALL ON BOARD FOR TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION, SO SHE'S WORKING ON IT DILIGENTLY COOL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. OKAY. JULIE. JULIE YOUNG. I'M VERY WRONG. YOU LIE LAST NIGHT. MY NAME IS JULIE YOUNG. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4, AND I HAVE SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION TO CONTINUE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING JUST THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS ON THE COMMISSION. BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR ME, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS WHAT I EXPERIENCED AS A RESIDENT IN THE CITY. [01:55:05] A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ME. I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN REDONDO BEACH FOR 15 YEARS, AND I LOVE WHERE I LIVE. THE ONLY REASON WE LIVE WHERE WE LIVE IS BECAUSE MY HUSBAND IS A TEACHER, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BUY OUR HOUSE THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM, WHICH IS MEANT TO KEEP EMPLOYEES THAT KEEP CITIES RUNNING IN THE CITIES THAT THEY WORK IN. SO THAT HAS BEEN AN EXTREME BENEFIT TO OUR FAMILY. AND I WANT TO COME AND GIVE BACK AND ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT GOING. I ALSO HAD THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT OF LIVING NEXT DOOR TO WHAT WAS A LAYDOWN YARD, WHICH IS LIKE A CONSTRUCTION PREP SITE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE DURING COVID. AND IT WAS A GENTLEMAN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT REALLY HELPED AND WALKED ME THROUGH KIND OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHY. AND COUNCILMAN OBAGI REALLY, REALLY KIND OF THROWING THE WHAT HAMMER HE COULD DOWN TO ENSURE THAT OUR THE PRIVACY AND QUIETNESS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DURING SUCH AN UNPRECEDENTED TIME WAS RESPECTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I REALIZE THAT OF THE THREE MEETINGS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON BOARD, I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND ONE. WE HAD A FAMILY VACATION THAT HAD BEEN PLANNED MONTHS IN ADVANCE. BUT AS SOMEONE JUST COMING OUT OF PARENTING LITTLE CHILDREN FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, I AM MORE THAN MORE THAN ABLE TO COMMIT TO BEING PRESENT FOR MEETINGS. HAVE YOU FOUND IT REWARDING SO FAR? I HAVE I WALKED INTO MY FIRST MEETING JUST HAVING LOOKED AT THE AGENDA AND SOME BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THAT WERE SENT TO ME, NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO, AND I WAS VERY I WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WAS PUT BEFORE ME AND FELT THAT EVEN WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS TO WHAT I WAS WALKING INTO. I FELT LIKE I WAS ABLE TO BRING SOME NEW INFORMATION TO THE TABLE AND ASK SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. WHAT'S THE MOST CHALLENGING THING IN YOUR FOUR MEETINGS OR THREE MEETINGS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT YOU'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH SO FAR? I ACTUALLY SAID TO MR. GADDIS AFTER THE FIRST MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, I SAID, HOW DO YOU COME WITH SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE PLACED ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS? LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? HE'S LIKE, WELL, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND A LOT OF RESEARCH. SO I KNOW THAT I HAVE SET MYSELF SOME REALLY HIGH. STANDARDS. YES, SOME REALLY HIGH STANDARDS BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE HOW WELL, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY FEEL WOULD WORK FOR PERMITS. AWESOME. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE GIVING AN ENDORSEMENT TO MR. GADDIS? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? I GUESS ONE OF THE BENEFIT OF BEING A W OR END OF THE ALPHABET IS WE'VE ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS AND ARE TIRED OF ASKING, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW. WELL, WHAT YOU DIDN'T ASK ME WAS, WHAT WOULD I DO IF I DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION FROM STAFF? AND I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT AFTER HEARING IT FOR THE SECOND TIME. AND MY ANSWER AS COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI WOULD VERY WELL UNDERSTAND IS I WOULD TEXT HIM PROBABLY LIKE 9:30 AT NIGHT. YES, I'VE INTERACTED WITH YOU ENOUGH TO KNOW HOW YOU'D ADDRESS PROBLEMS, SO. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC, I DID THINK OF A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A COMMISSION THAT HAS SOME POWER. YOU GUYS ARE DECISION MAKING BODY. YOU ARE IMPORTANT REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY. SO DO YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AS A COMMISSIONER, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY INSIDE THE CHAMBER AND OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER? I DO, YES, ESPECIALLY AFTER DOING THE ETHICS TRAINING THAT I COMPLETED. OKAY. AND ARE YOU ACTIVE ONLINE ON SOCIAL MEDIA? I HAD BEEN, YEARS AGO. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE LAST FIVE OR SO YEARS. OKAY. AND I JUST ASKED BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAN BE UNPRODUCTIVE. I AGREE. SO, REMEMBERING THAT YOU ARE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY. [02:00:05] AND KEEPING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A HIGH STANDARD IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT. NO, I'M SAYING LIKE THIS IS A THING. THAT'S PROBABLY A YOU ISSUE. WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JULIE. APPRECIATE YOU JULIE. NANCY SKIBA. SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST. DISTRICT 4 FOR THE LAST TWO. OH, SHE'S TAKING THE SEAT OF POWER. I AM TAKING THE SEAT OF POWER, BABY. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. NANCY SKIBA, DISTRICT 4. I AM STILL HANGING ON TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. I'M HOPING THAT IT WILL BE RESCUED SOMEHOW AND RENOVATED IN SOME WAY. BUT I ALSO AM INTERESTED IN PLANNING AND HARBOR COMMISSION. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD THROW MY HAT IN THE RING FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS, JUST IN CASE. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF NANCY? OKAY. I WAS IN THE FILM INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS AND LIVED IN BRENTWOOD, CAME FROM THE VALLEY AND WORKED IN MAJOR MOTION PICTURE STUDIOS, WROTE SOLD STORIES AND SCRIPTS. ALSO HAD A KIND OF A CHECKERED CAREER. I HAD ABOUT SIX YEARS AS A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR, OWNED MY OWN PRIVATE INVESTIGATION FIRM, CELTIC CROSS INVESTIGATIONS, AND I DID THINGS LIKE LOCATE, REUNITING FAMILIES, WORKERS, COMP FIELD INVESTIGATION ON BEHALF OF L.A. UNIFIED. JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, SURVEILLANCE, BACKGROUND CHECKING. I LOVE THAT IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE BUSINESS TO OPERATE. AND THEN I RETIRED AFTER, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE YEARS WHEN I CAME OUT TO THIS SIDE OF TOWN. CANCER SURVIVOR. AND I STARTED GETTING INTERESTED IN THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY HERE WHEN THEY HAD CENTERCAL AND MEASURE C. THAT'S WHEN I FIRST STARTED WATCHING THE MEETINGS AND COMING DOWN HERE. AND IT WAS FASCINATING AND HORRIFYING ALL AT ONCE. AND I WANTED TO BE ON A COMMISSION SOMEHOW OR OTHER BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HELPING PEOPLE, HAVING SOMETHING TO DO WITH MAKING THEIR LIFE BETTER, QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I HAVE BEEN REALLY HAPPY TO BE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING TO US WHO WERE REALLY, YOU KNOW, SUFFERING IN SOME WAYS. THEY NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND WE TRIED, YOU KNOW, TO REACH OUT AND TO HAVE MORE CONTACT WITH PARTS OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME FAILURES ALONG THE LINES AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM SOMEHOW, AS SCOTT WAS SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, FIND SOME SOLUTION WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME OF THE COMMISSION'S STILL LEFT AND OPERATING IN SOME FASHION. I STILL REMAIN SOMEWHAT INTERESTED IN IT, BUT I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING A CHANGE TO SUCH AS PLANNING OR THE HARBOR COMMISSION. AND I AM NOT A BOATER. I DON'T OWN A BOAT. BUT I LIKE BOATS. AND AT ONE TIME I HAD A JOB FOR A TIME WHERE I USED TO HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE DOWN THE GANGWAY TO SHOW BOATS AT A MARINA DOWN IN THE SAN PEDRO AREA. AND IT WAS REALLY FUN. I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT THE BOATS WERE JUST SO BEAUTIFUL, AND ALL THE WOODEN ONES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS THAT WERE DOWN THERE, AND IT WAS INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THAT BOARDWALK KIND OF THING, AND IT'S ALL MOVING UNDER YOUR FEET WHILE YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY DOWN THERE. IT WAS AN INTERESTING CHANGE OF, YOU KNOW, LOCATION AND THE KIND OF ATMOSPHERE AND BUT IT'S THAT IT'S THAT OCEAN. IT'S THAT WATER AND THE FREEDOM THAT YOU FEEL. AND IN A BEACH CITY LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY LIKE REDONDO. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SO MUCH INVOLVED AND THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALL DIFFERENT OPINIONS IN THIS CITY. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE GOING FOR MORE REVENUE AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO UNITE THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA. BECAUSE, YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS. THE ONE IS LIKE LANDLOCKED. AND THEN DOWN HERE THEY'VE GOT ALL THE BEAUTIFUL COASTLINE AND THE VILLAGE, WELL I'VE LIVED IN THE VILLAGE ALSO, BUT IT IS REALLY FABULOUS DOWN THERE. AT ONE TIME I LIVED ON CALLE MIRAMAR. YOU HAD THE OCEAN ALL NIGHT LONG. YOU CAN HEAR WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING, THE SOUND COMING UP TO YOUR APARTMENT. REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING WHERE I CAN MAKE A CONTRIBUTION. AND REALLY, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF SKILLS. I'M A WRITER, AND I LIKE VERY MUCH WORKING WITH PEOPLE. [02:05:01] FOR A LONG TIME, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE HUMAN POTENTIAL MOVEMENT, WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND VOLUNTEERING MY TIME. ALL KINDS OF TRAININGS, LEADERSHIP TRAININGS. AND I DID THE CITIZEN'S POLICE ACADEMY HERE IN THE CITY, AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL. I LOVED THAT THAT WAS EXCELLENT. AND THE RUN HIDE FIGHT WAS ONE OF THE COURSES THAT I REALLY ENJOYED. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS SO BENEFICIAL BECAUSE PEOPLE GO OUT IN PUBLIC AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY GO SOMEWHERE. AND I WROTE TO CHIEF HOFMAN WHEN I GOT ON THIS COMMISSION, I SAID, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST IN THE CLASS. AND MONTHS LATER, THEY STARTED OFFERING IT AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND AT THE MOSQUE AND THE BEACH CITIES AND DIFFERENT PLACES. NOW THEY'RE TAKING IT ALL OVER. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS. AND SO THAT WAS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. IF IT WAS REVAMPED IN A NEW FORM WHERE IT WAS MORE ON DEMAND, MORE LIMITED. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT COMMISSION AS YOUR NUMBER ONE CHOICE? WELL, IT WOULD BE HIGH ON THE LIST. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THE HARBOR, AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD SOMEONE FROM THIS PART OF TOWN ON THAT THING FOR A WHILE. SO I THOUGHT THAT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ALSO BE ANOTHER INTERESTING THING. I REALLY LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU KNOW, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO COME BACK. YEAH. AND SINCE YOU MENTIONED HARBOR AS YOU HEARD ME ASK BEFORE, HARBOR HAS REQUIREMENTS. I KNOW. SO LOOK AT THAT, AND IF YOU FIT ONE OF THOSE OR MULTIPLE OF THOSE. LET THE MAYOR KNOW SO HE WOULD KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPEN SLOT FOR YOU. OKAY. SO I'LL GIVE YOU I'LL GIVE YOU THAT HOMEWORK. AND I KNOW, I'VE SEEN THAT LIST. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. OKAY. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU NANCY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS NANCY. AND WE'LL TRY ONE MORE TIME WITH PAUL SAMARAS. PAUL? HELLO, MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YES. TERRIFIC. THANKS. MAYOR LIGHT AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'M A 20 YEAR RESIDENT IN REDONDO BEACH, BUT I'VE LOVED IT EVEN BEFORE THAT. I'M RAISING MY TWO DAUGHTERS IN REDONDO BEACH AT LINCOLN AND ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND I'VE WORKED AS A PROFESSIONAL CITY PLANNER FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS. I CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO AS A PRINCIPAL PLANNER, AND WE RECENTLY STARTED THE EL SEGUNDO GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, THE LAND USE ELEMENT. SO, IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING IN EL SEGUNDO. I ALSO SERVED ON THE GPAC COMMITTEE IN REDONDO BEACH FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND I LOVE TO VOLUNTEER. I VOLUNTEER AT MY GIRLS SCHOOLS. I DO THE BEACH CITYS GARDENING PROGRAM. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW AT LINCOLN ELEMENTARY. AND I ALSO VOLUNTEER AT SAINT CATHERINE'S GREEK CHURCH AND THEIR GREEK SCHOOL PROGRAM. I WAS A FULL TIME INSTRUCTOR THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND NOW I DO THAT SORT OF AS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER. AND I VOLUNTEER AT EVENTS THERE AT THE CHURCH. ALSO, I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE GREEK FESTIVAL IS COMING UP THIS MONTH, SO MAKE SURE TO ATTEND. I JUST WANTED TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET, AND I'D LOVE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? WELL, I'LL JUST COMMENT THAT HE'S A VERY GOOD BEACH VOLLEYBALL PLAYER. ADD IT TO THE LIST. YOU SAID YOU ARE A CITY PLANNER, IS THAT CORRECT? IN EL SEGUNDO? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. OKAY. AND HE SURVIVED SEVEN YEARS ON GPAC WITH US. OKAY. I DID. YES. AND IT WAS IT WAS TERRIFIC EXPERIENCE. AND AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, MAYOR, DURING THE COMMITTEE, I HAVE MY OPINIONS, BUT I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS. AND I ALWAYS TRY TO KIND OF WORK ON COMPROMISES AND SORT OF A WIN WIN SITUATIONS OR SOLUTIONS. OKAY, I JUST HAVE A QUICK ONE. HOW YOU FEEL ON THE STATE MANDATES? I FEEL JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. JUST AS AN EMPLOYEE FOR PLANNING YOU KNOW, [02:10:03] IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR US. SO YOUR STAFF PROBABLY TELL YOU THE SAME THING. JUST CONSTANTLY TRYING TO WORK ON AMENDING THE CITY'S CODES TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSES DOWN. AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF MY REACTION. IT'S THEY'RE APPLYING THE HAMMER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY SORT OF SURGICAL OR PRECISE CHANGES TO STATE LAWS. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO DO ONE QUICK, CLEAN SWEEP TO TRY TO FIX PROBLEMS, BUT THEY CREATE OTHERS. OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WOULD ASK PAUL, COULD YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A RECENT STATE HOUSING LAW THAT YOU DISAGREED WITH? I DISAGREE WITH A NUMBER OF THEM. ONE EXAMPLE IS A LAW THAT FORCES, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE ADUS ON PROPERTIES WITH LITTLE TO NO REGULATION. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS A LAW THAT ALLOWS THE BUILDERS REMEDY, FOR INSTANCE, OR ALLOWS PEOPLE TO PROPOSE RESIDENTIAL EVEN IN COMMERCIAL ZONES, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANY SORT OF REVIEW PROCESS BY THE LOCAL CITY. I HOPE THAT HELPS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S A FRESH LAW, RIGHT? THAT'S RECENT. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THANK YOU PAUL. AND WITH RESPECT TO THE LAW REGARDING THE MULTIPLE ADUS ON PROPERTY. WITH, IN YOUR WORDS, LITTLE TO NO REGULATION. WHAT IS IT ABOUT IT THAT CONCERNS YOU? CITIES HAVE SORT OF AN INHERENT INTEREST IN SHAPING THEIR COMMUNITY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS AND THAT PARTICULAR LAW KIND OF GOES AROUND THAT COMPLETELY. AND IN ADDITION, IT KIND OF FORCES SOME DENSITY IN AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT NEEDED AND CREATING PROBLEMS. I HOPE THAT HELPS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES HELP. IT DOES HELP. AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT CITIES SHOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY A VETO OVER WHETHER ADUS USE ARE ALLOWED? WELL, I THINK THERE'S GOOD PLACES FOR THOSE. IT'S JUST THAT THE STATE, IN MY OPINION, SHOULDN'T BE FORCING IT IN SUCH A HAPHAZARD WAY. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDER'S REMEDY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE IF A CITY IS NOT LIVING UP TO THEIR HOUSING NEEDS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS? THE BUILDERS REMEDY HAS BEEN POSITED BY SOME TO BE A WAY TO MOVE THAT HOUSING FORWARD WHEREVER IT MAY NEED TO HAPPEN. WHY WOULD YOU BE AGAINST THAT? BECAUSE IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WANT TO ADD DENSITY TO A COMMUNITY, YOU NEED TO DO IT IN A THOUGHTFUL MANNER AND NOT ALLOW JUST ANYBODY TO COME IN AND PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN ITS SORT OF ENVIRONMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWING SOMEBODY TO JUST DO IT HAPHAZARDLY WITHOUT PUTTING ANY THOUGHT INTO IT. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF OF A CITY WOULD HAVE INVOLVEMENT? EXACTLY, PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY WENT THROUGH A 6 OR 7 YEAR PROCESS, AND WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END HERE OF PUTTING TOGETHER ITS OWN VISION OF WHERE IT WANTS DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT WANTS HOUSING, WHERE IT WANTS BUSINESSES, AND TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO COME IN, DO SOMETHING THAT CONTRADICTS WHAT THE CITY SPENT YEARS AND MILLIONS TO DO IS, YOU KNOW REPREHENSIBLE REALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU PAUL. THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. PAUL THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, SENSITIVE QUESTIONS, CONSIDERING YOUR PROFESSIONAL JOB AND KIND OF WALKING THE TIGHTROPE BETWEEN YOUR JOB AND APPLYING FOR THIS COMMISSION POSITION. A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS ONE THAT I'VE ASKED OTHER COMMISSION CANDIDATES IS IF HERE ON THE REDONDO [02:15:04] BEACH COMMISSION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, PLANNING OR OTHERWISE, YOU CAME ACROSS STAFF WHO YOU FELT YOU KNOW, FOR REDONDO BEACH WASN'T GIVING YOU THE ANSWERS THAT YOU DESERVED, WASN'T FOLLOWING UP ON THE DIRECTION THAT YOUR COMMISSION WAS PROVIDING AND MAYBE WASN'T EVEN COMMUNICATING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS UP TO COUNCIL. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I WOULD JUST FOLLOW THE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, THE HIERARCHY. SO IF IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE ENTRY LEVEL PLANNER OR WHOEVER IT IS, THEN I WOULD GRADUALLY GO UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO THE MANAGER, THE DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER. AND IF THE CITY MANAGER IGNORED YOU OR JUST MISSED YOUR EMAIL, WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN? YEAH, I WOULD CONTACT MY COUNCILPERSON AND THE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. AND THANKS FOR SERVING ON GPAC. THANK YOU SIR. TAKE CARE. YOU TOO. OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THE INTERVIEWS FOR TONIGHT. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE ONLINE, CORRECT? NO ONE ELSE WOULD. NO. OKAY. NONE ON OUR LIST. OKAY, SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, I'M EXPECTING BACK FROM YOU GUYS. YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THE YOU GUYS, THE COUNCIL HERE. EXPOSING MY PENNSYLVANIA ROOTS. I EXPECT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BY JULY 31ST, AND THEN I WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH APPOINTMENTS FOR THE MEETING ON AUGUST 12TH. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH LET'S SEE, WE'RE NOT GOING BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION. SO IT'S ADJOURNMENT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. 4 P.M. I'M SORRY. 4 P.M. ADJOURNMENT TO 4.PM.. YES. ADJOURNING TO 4 P.M. FOR THE CLOSED SESSION. THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE 15TH. SO MOVED. AND THEN OPEN SESSION WILL STILL BE AT 6 P.M.. SO THANK YOU FOR THE FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. OKAY. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND INTERVIEWING WITH US. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.