[4:30 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING]
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I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER A MEETING OF THE CLOSED SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN CASE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI WILL BE PARTICIPATING REMOTELY FOR BOTH CLOSED SESSION AND OPEN SESSION. SO WITH THAT, COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BERENDHT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT HERE.
OKAY. ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR OUR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. ANY, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ZOOM ATTENDEES. AND THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION.
OKAY. CAN YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN CLOSED SESSION? YES, MAYOR. AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.11 OR UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE LEGAL COUNSEL. EXISTING LITIGATION.
FIRST ONE THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ET AL.
VERSUS CALIFORNIA STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD CASE NUMBER 20STCP03193.
FOR F.3 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS 9300 WILSHIRE LLC VERSUS CITY.
CASE NUMBER 23STCP02189. FOR F.4 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS IN REGARDS TO 9300 WILSHIRE LLC 9300 WILSHIRE LLC, ET AL. VERSUS AES-REDONDO BEACH LLC. BANKRUPTCY C.D CAL.
CASE NUMBER 2:23-AP-01163-ER. FOR F.5 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS YES, IN MY BACKYARD, A CALIFORNIA NONPROFIT CORPORATION. SONJA TRAUSS AN INDIVIDUAL, VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES ONE THROUGH 25 INCLUSIVE.
CASE NUMBER 23TRCP00325. FOR F.6 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND DOES ONE THROUGH 100 INCLUSIVE.
CASE NUMBER 23STCV10146. FOR F.7 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC AND LEONID PUSTILNIKOV VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.
CASE NUMBER 22TRCP00203. FOR F8 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ET AL.
CASE NUMBER 23STCP00426. FOR F.9 THE NAME OF CASE IS AES SOUTHLAND DEVELOPMENT LLC AND AES REDONDO BEACH, LLC VERSUS CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION CASE NUMBER BS157789.
FOR F.10 THE NAME OF THE CASES DAVID POIRIER VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH WCAB NUMBER ADJ16707384.
F.11 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CHAD SMITH VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH WCAB NUMBER UNASSIGNED.
AND FOR ITEM F 12. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR.
THE PROPERTIES ARE 3007 VAIL AVENUE. A PORTION OF APN 415-001-7931. PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF FELTON LANE AND 1/82 STREET.
APN 415-803-3900 715 JULIA AVENUE. PORTION OF PARCELS APN 750-702-0900 AND APN 750-702-1900 1935 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. APN 404-900-893 807 INGLEWOOD AVENUE.
A PORTION OF APN 408-302-4900 TWO HUNDRED NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, A PORTION OF APN 750-500-9902. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, WHO WILL BE TALKING TO THESE? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK.
FOR ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.9, WE WILL BE JOINED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MARC WIENER AND OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL JANETTA GIOVINCO AND DIANA VERRETT. FOR ITEMS F.10 AND F.11, WE WILL HAVE DIANE STRICKFADEN, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR,
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AND CAROLYN RIZZO, OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON THE MATTER, AND THAT WILL BE IT.THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION.
SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A REMOTE PERSON, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. AYE. OKAY, SO WE ARE RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION.
THANK YOU. TO ORDER. WE'RE RECONVENING FROM CLOSED SESSION TO OPEN SESSION. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI JUNIOR WHO IS TELECONFERENCE DUE TO JUST CAUSE.
COUNCILMAN OBAGI. OH, YES. I'M HERE. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT.
HERE. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? YEAH. NO REPORTABLE ACTION FROM CLOSED SESSION, MAYOR.
OKAY. NO, NO REPORTABLE ACTION. SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.
MOVE TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR MEETING. SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. AYE. OKAY, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
I AM NOW CALLING TO ORDER THE OPEN SESSION OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.
HERE. MAYOR LIGHT HERE. OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY IN THE AUDIENCE, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE, PLEASE? [APPLAUSE] AND NOW, LET US ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MORGAN IS GOING TO DO OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY.
AND AFTER SHE'S DONE, I'D ASK THAT YOU REMAIN ON REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION.
MORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MORGAN.
I'M A SIXTH GRADER AT ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL. MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IS MATH.
READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND NOW, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. MORGAN, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. COME ON. FORWARD. PICK IT UP.
GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. ONE, THREE. DAD, DID YOU WANT TO GET A PICTURE? EVEN BETTER.
YEAH. YOU'RE BLOCKING SOME OF US [LAUGHS]. OKAY.
OKAY. THANKS. GREAT JOB. MORGAN. [APPLAUSE]. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND AB1234.
[D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS]
TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORT ANNOUNCEMENTS. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY, SO I'LL COME FORWARD FOR THAT.OKAY, SO THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS WITH THE AYSO GIRL ALL STARS U-12 NATIONAL GAMES TEAM.
SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. TONIGHT I'M THRILLED TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT OF OUR U12 GIRLS ALL STAR TEAM FROM NORTH REDONDO, AYSO REGION 17, WHO BROUGHT HOME FIRST PLACE AT THE 2025 AYSO NATIONAL GAMES IN IRVINE THIS PAST JULY.
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THIS IS NO SMALL FEAT. THE NATIONAL GAMES DREW ELITE TEAMS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND OUR GIRLS WENT UNDEFEATED THROUGH ALL SEVEN MATCHES, SCORING 22 GOALS AND ALLOWING ONLY ONE. THE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH, THE FINAL MATCH AGAINST WAIPAHU, WEST OAHU, ENDED IN A NAIL BITING SCORELESS DRAW, BUT OUR TEAM HELD STRONG AND CLINCHED THE TITLE IN A 5 TO 3 PENALTY SHOOTOUT. TALK ABOUT NERVES OF STEEL.WELL DONE. SPECIAL RECOGNITION GOES TO HEAD COACH CHRISTOPHER WALTHER AND TEAM CAPTAINS MORGAN WALTHER, WHO JUST GAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND ISABEL WILSON AND EMERY FUNES, WHOSE LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT GUIDED THE TEAM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO EMERY, WHO WAS NAMED THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER FOR HER INCREDIBLE IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE TOURNAMENT.
17 U-12 GIRLS EXEMPLIFY THE VERY BEST OF YOUTH SPORTS TEAMWORK, PERSEVERANCE AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT.
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERY PLAYER, COACH, AND FAMILY MEMBER INVOLVED.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME FIRST IS EMERY FUNES. CONGRATULATIONS.
FABIANA GARCIA. I LOVE THE MEDAL TOO.
NATALIE SABLAN. CONGRATULATIONS. JULIET DELANO.
CONGRATULATIONS. SCARLET. MOUSSAKA.
DE LA VEGA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
AND COACH CHRISTOPHER. WALTER. DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YEAH, SURE. SURE. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR LIGHT.
GIRLS NORTH REDONDO TEAM. IT WAS A LONG SEASON IN WHICH WE DOMINATED.
WE WENT 23 ZERO AND ONE, NEVER LOSING A GAME ALL SEASON.
WOW. WE SCORED 122 GOALS. WE ONLY LET IN NINE GOALS IN 24 GAMES.
AN AMAZING FEAT FOR THIS TEAM. AND AS YOU SAID, IT WAS THAT FINAL GAME THAT WAS A NAIL BITER AGAINST A TEAM FROM HAWAII THAT REALLY SHOWED THE STRENGTH AND SHEER DETERMINATION OF THIS TEAM TO SUCCEED ON THE FIELD. AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THIS TEAM AND ALL THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ALL SEASON.
ALL UP OR DOWN. I WAS PROUD OF THEM. YES. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE FIVE PENALTY KICKERS, BUT IT WAS.
IT WAS REALLY OUR GOALIE. OUR GOALIE STOPPED.
WELL DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE TAKE PICTURES AND HAVE YOU SIT DOWN LIKE YOU TO TURN AROUND, WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR YOU. YEAH.
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THAT'S IT. OH, SORRY. AND THERE THEY GO.HEY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT TEAM THAT IS? ACFC. SAY IT. YEAH.
THAT SCORED THE GOAL? [INAUDIBLE] YES. YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE CLIP FROM FROM ELIZABETH FOR YOU.
ARE YOU READY YET. WHAT'S UP GUYS. I'M ELIZABETH EDDIE AND I CURRENTLY PLAY FOR ANGEL CITY FC.
I HEARD YOU GUYS WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. CONGRATULATIONS.
[APPLAUSE] SO I WANT TO THANK ANGEL CITY'S. I CALLED THEM AND THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING, THEY WERE THEY WERE ANXIOUS TO GIVE YOU GUYS TICKETS.
I THINK THEY'LL HAVE SOME LITTLE GIFTS FOR YOU WHEN YOU GO TO THE GAME AS WELL.
SO. WELL DONE. IF YOU DON'T MIND. STAND BACK AND GET A PICTURE WITH THE PICTURE.
IF I SQUEEZE IN,OH, WE NEED THE CUP. YEAH. OH, YEAH. CAN I HOLD IT? DO YOU WANT [LAUGHS]. JUST HOLD IT UP OVER YOUR HEADS.
SHE'S A RUGBY PLAYER, BUT WE'LL LET HER HOLD IT.
SHE CAN COME UP FRONT HERE AND GET PICTURES IF YOU WANT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HANG WAY BACK THERE. THIS IS A BIG, BIG EVENT ROOM.
WHO'S GOT A CAMERA? YOU HAD PAPARAZZI. WE USUALLY DON'T GET THIS MANY CAMERAS HERE. THEY SHOULD HAVE FLASHBULBS RIGHT OFF. WELL, AGAIN, GIRLS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING HOME THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TO REDONDO BEACH. WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF YOU.
YES. WELL DONE. SHE'S GOT GOOD HANDS.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GOALIE. THANK YOU ALL.
THANKS AGAIN. WELL DONE. THE FUN IS LEAVING. THE FUN IS LEAVING.
NOW BACK TO REALITY. YEAH. OH.
I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM LA CORTES ASKING FOR ANY VOLUNTEERS FOR GRAND JURY.
THAT WAS A VERY EXCITING EVENT, WE GOT TO HEAR ABOUT A GUEST SPEAKER WHO IS TALKING ABOUT AI AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT TEACHING AND WHAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE TEACHING KIDS IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL.
AND HE WAS TELLING US ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY CAN HELP ANY MEXICAN NATIONALS WHO MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY NOW WITH THE ICE AND BORDER PATROL ACTIVITIES, IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS IN THAT AREA, IF YOU EMAIL ME, I WILL PUT YOU IN TOUCH. I WILL TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CONSULATE. THEY THEY'RE HERE TO HELP MEXICAN NATIONALS WHO ARE IN THE US.
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SO IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL PASS YOU ON TO THEM.OR YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THEIR WEBSITE. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, EMAIL ME.
MY EMAIL IS ALL OVER THE CITY WEBPAGE AND I'LL GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
SO EXCITED FOR THAT ACTIVITY TO START. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD.
COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE DINE AROUND ARTESIA.
IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. GOT SOME GOOD FOOD. GOT TO SEE SOME GREAT ART.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO IT, THE LAST ONE, THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY IS SEPTEMBER 10TH.
THAT'S A WEDNESDAY FROM 5 TO 8:30 P.M. THE BACK TO SCHOOL RALLY WAS FUN.
THE RIVIERA VILLAGE SIDEWALK SALE IS SET FOR SATURDAY, AUGUST 23RD AND SUNDAY, AUGUST 24TH.
THAT'S THIS WEEKEND. AND THEN MY NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE IN PERSON, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2025 FROM 4 TO 5:30 P.M. AT THE VETERANS PARK SENIOR CENTER.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I JUST HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.
FIRST, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KICKING OFF THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR, THIS YEAR WILL BE THE 100 YEAR CELEBRATION FOR BERYL HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN DISTRICT 2. SO THEY'RE PLANNING A PARTY FOR THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MEMORABILIA FROM THE EARLY YEARS OF BERYL, YOU CAN CONTACT THE SCHOOL. THEY'D LOVE TO SHARE IT WITH SOME OF THEIR STUDENTS NOW TO SEE HOW THE SCHOOL LOOKED, YOU KNOW, 50, 75, 80 YEARS AGO, ALL THE WAY BACK TO ITS FOUNDING.
AS THE MAYOR STATED, WE HAVE THE WILDERNESS PARK LOWER POND GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY.
THAT'S ON MONDAY AT 1:30 P.M. IN WILDERNESS PARK.
SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, PLEASE COME. AND THEN LAST WEEK, THE MAYOR AND I MET WITH THE LANAKILA OUTRIGGER CANOE CLUB, AS WELL AS THE KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION, TO TALK ABOUT ACTIVATING THE WATERFRONT AND HELPING THEM EXPAND THEIR EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE THERE IN THE WATERFRONT. AND ALSO TO THAT, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE WATER POLO IN THE HARBOR OF REDONDO BEACH FOR THE FIRST TIME, SO. THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC´S HUSBAND? YES. THE OTHER HALF. THE OTHER HALF. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EXCITING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE ACTIVITIES TO THE WATERFRONT FOR ALL OF US TO COME DOWN AND ENJOY.
AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THOSE DATES, I'LL ANNOUNCE IT AGAIN.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OUR FIRST OPEN WATER WATER POLO, SO.
EXACTLY. THAT'LL BE EXCITING, I THINK THEY'VE GOT TEN TEAMS LINED UP.
LOOKING FOR TEN. I KNOW THERE'S TWO WOMEN'S TEAMS. YEAH. WHICH WILL BE GREAT TOO. YEAH, IT'LL BE A NICE KICKOFF FOR THAT EVENT.
YEAH, AND HOPEFULLY MORE NEXT SUMMER. EXACTLY.
IS THAT IT? YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
YOU ALL COVERED MOST OF IT. JUST THAT MY DISTRICT 3 MEETING WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN MY NEWSLETTER.
IF YOU AREN'T PART OF MY NEWSLETTER, YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THAT AT.
WHAT IS IT? PAIGE4D3.ORG. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
SORRY. I'M SORRY. BUT. OR YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I'LL SEND YOU THE LINK.
OKAY. THAT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR. I KNOW, THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. LOOK THAT UP. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO RBPD BECAUSE OF THEIR QUICK RESPONSE TO THE ROBBERY ON MATTHEWS.
ARRESTING THE SUSPECTS, THAT'S PHENOMENAL ON A WEEKEND.
AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR BEING OMNIPRESENT DURING DINE AROUND ARTESIA.
I COULDN'T BE THERE, BUT THEY HAD PICTURES POSTED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WITH TWO VOLLEYBALL FRIENDS, BUT IN A GYM IN ONE PLACE AND A FLOWER SHOP AND ANOTHER.
SO I KNEW THEY WERE EVERYWHERE. THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME TO BE ONE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE WELCOMED A NEW REDONDO RESIDENT TO THE OBAGI JUNIOR FAMILY THIS WEEKEND.
THEY'RE PHENOMENAL. AND OUR FIRST POST LABOR MEAL, WE GOT TAKEOUT FROM MIYODA IN DISTRICT 3, AND THEN OUR FIRST PEDIATRICIAN APPOINTMENT WAS AT THE BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT CAMPUS.
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THAT'S ALL. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR WIFE AND THE BABY.THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NONE THIS WEEK, MAYOR.
OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR THAT, THEN. COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA?
[E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST, MAYOR, IF WE COULD. I'D LIKE TO PUSH ITEM H.15 TO THE SEPTEMBER 2ND AGENDA, PLEASE. AND REMOVE THAT FROM.SO YOU'RE PUSHING THAT, OKAY. MOVE TO CONFIRM THE, OR NOT.
OR TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA AS MODIFIED.
SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.
AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. WE WILL RUN THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
WE WILL BE PULLING ITEM H.15 UNDER CONSENT CALENDAR FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN AGENCY RECESS RIGHT NOW.
[F. AGENCY RECESS]
SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
WE HAVE TWO MORE FOLKS JOINING US. COME ON UP.
COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MEMBER WALLER.
PRESENT. MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
HERE. MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE.
COMMISSIONER PRICE. HERE. COMMISSIONER NEWTON.
DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING? NOT FOR THIS AGENCY. OKAY. WE HAVE CONSENT CALENDAR C.1 THROUGH C.4.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NO ONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR C.1 THROUGH C.4 IN ITS ENTIRETY.
MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC FOR THE ECOMMENTS.
SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ANY ITEMS C.1 THROUGH C.4 ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AGENDA? ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. AYE.
AYE. AYE. ZEIN? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI? AYE. AYE.
OKAY. THAT'S A UNANIMOUS. WE HAVE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. WE HAVE PARTICIPATION NOW. ITEM E, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THIS IS NOT FOR THE OPEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? NONE. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE'LL JUMP TO IS J.
REFERRALS TO STAFF. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY REFERRALS TO STAFF TONIGHT? JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. NOBODY? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI? NO, THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. WITH THAT I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. YOU GUYS ARE, LIKE, [INAUDIBLE].
YEAH. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE THEN. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.
GO AHEAD. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS AN EASY ONE. THAT WAS.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE REGULAR OPEN SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE A ROLL CALL AGAIN? YES. CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
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COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT.
HERE. OKAY. JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OPEN SESSION.
[G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
DO WE HAVE ANY? YES. FOR H.20. RELATED TO THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO CLEAR MOU FOR SERVICES RENDERED, REVISED TITLE AND THE SIGNED MOU. J.1. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF NON-AGENDA ITEMS. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. N.1. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR THE REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT AND THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKEWAY EXTENSION. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.N.2. DISCUSSION REGARDING UPDATES TO THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE TO REGULATE SMOKE SHOPS, AND A REVIEW OF THE CITY'S CURRENT TOBACCO RETAIL PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, TWO MAPS WITH PROPOSED BUFFER ZONES.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? SO MOVED. SECOND. I KNOW WE'RE LET'S TAKE THE ROLL CALL VOTE. JUST GO DOWN THE ROAD.
AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES.
OKAY, WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM H. THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
[H. CONSENT CALENDAR]
WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL.H.15 HAS BEEN PULLED ALREADY FOR A FUTURE SESSION, SO WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT TONIGHT.
SO, DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE REMAINING CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? NOTHING FOR ME. NOTHING FOR ME. I'D LIKE TO PULL H.10 AND H.17, PLEASE.
OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI? NONE, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.
NONE. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF H.15, H.10, AND H.17. SO MOVED. SECOND. OH, BACKWARDS.
DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS H.1 THROUGH.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE LAST NUMBER IS. H22.
22. 22. WAY TOO MANY. OTHER THAN H.15, H.10 OR H.17? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? LET´S SEE, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
THEN ONLINE WE HAVE. I´M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO GET THE ECOMMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE MIC]. SO FOR H.14, WE GOT TWO ECOMMENTS TO SUPPORT.
H.16, FOUR ECOMMENTS OPPOSED. H.21, TWO ECOMMENTS SUPPORT, FOR THE RECORD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE IT? WE HAVE NO. WE'VE GONE THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT, SO I WILL CALL THE VOTE.
AYE. GO DOWN THE ROAD. AYE. AYE. ZEIN? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, SORRY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. AYE. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING PASSES.
H.1 THROUGH 22, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF H.15, H.10, AND H.17.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO READ? YES, MAYOR.
ITEM H.6. ADOPT BY 4/5 VOTE AND BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.
CC-2508-061A. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING THE 2024-2025 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET MODIFICATION TO TRANSFER $1,100,000 OF PROPOSITION C FUNDS FROM THE AVIATION BOULEVARD RESURFACING PROJECT, JOB NO. 41440 TO THE MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD RESURFACING - AVIATION BOULEVARD TO INGLEWOOD AVENUE PROJECT, JOB NO. 41160, IN EXCHANGE FOR $1,747,973 OF STPL FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THE MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD RESURFACING PROJECT.
ITEM H.8. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NO. 3296-25 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 3, CHAPTER 6, SECTION 3-6.03 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO PARKING METER LOCATIONS AND HOURLY RATES FOR THE INSTALLATION OF NEW PARKING METERS ON HERONDO STREET BETWEEN NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY AND NORTH FRANCISCA AVENUE, FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. H.14. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.
CC-2508-063, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING A FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 BUDGET MODIFICATION TO ALLOCATE $25,326 FROM THE CITY OF MANHATTAN BEACH TRANSIT LINE 109 COST SHARING TO TRANSIT FUNDS. AND ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.
CC-2508-062, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING A FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 BUDGET MODIFICATION TO ALLOCATE $60,132 FROM THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO FOR BEACH CITIES TRANSIT LINE 109 COST SHARING TO TRANSIT FUNDS.
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AND ITEM H.16. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.CC-2508-064. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, LEASING CERTAIN PROPERTY TO ZOILA NORWOOD, AN INDIVIDUAL. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.
WELL DONE. OKAY, SO WE ARE DONE WITH THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. WE WILL NOW GO TO ITEM I. WHICH IS EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS WITH H.10 AND H.17.
[I. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]
WE´LL START WITH H.10, WHICH IS APPROVING THE RETIREMENT OF OUR POLICE CANINES, AND COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC YOU PULLED THIS ONE.SO. YEAH. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO IT. I JUST WANTED TO PULL THIS.
I BELIEVE OUR CANINES FOR RETIREMENT ARE HERE AND I´D JUST LIKE TO PET THEM.
AND THANK YOU. SO. AND, ALSO TO JUST HEAR A LITTLE BIT FROM THE HANDLERS AND THE FAMILIES AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS MADE TO THE CITY. OH, YES. THE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES OF THE TWO DOGS.
OH, WE DID GET [INAUDIBLE]. LOOK AT THAT. HI, MIKE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CAPTAIN MICHAEL MARTINEZ WITH THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS ITEM. I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S OUT OF TOWN.
WHEN EVERYONE IS INSIDE. I WANTED EVERYONE TO JOIN US, ESPECIALLY THE CANINES THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE K9 BALTON AND SERGEANT DAVE ARNOLD. CANINE ACE IS WITH OFFICER HALEY.
SO WE HAVE A VERY ESTABLISHED AND RESPECTED CANINE PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.
OUR CANINE PARTNERS, THEY PROVIDE A VERY VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE POLICE, CANINES AND THE HANDLERS, THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP.
THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER AND THEY FORM A BOND.
AND THE FACT THAT THE CITY WILL DO SOMETHING FOR THIS WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THE DOGS TO RETIRE, IT ACTUALLY MEANS A LOT TO US. NOW, WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS GOING TO BE UP HERE BECAUSE THE CHIEF´S OUT OF TOWN, ONE OF THE OTHER CAPTAINS ASKED IF I WAS GOING TO TELL ANY DAD JOKES ABOUT DOGS.
AND I TOLD HIM I SAID NO. IN FACT, YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE.
BUT NOW, IF I WANTED TO TELL ANY DAD JOKES ABOUT DOGS, THERE'S SOME PRETTY GOOD TERMS I COULD USE.
SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, OUR DOGS, THEY WORK IN PAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY'RE HERE TO PAWTECT AND SERVE. THEY GO OUT ON A PAWLICE PATROL.
WHEN THEY GET EXCITED, THEY RAISE THE WOOF. AND IT'S APPROPRIATE THOSE RETIREMENTS ARE NOW IN AUGUST BECAUSE THESE ARE CONSIDERED THE DOG DAYS OF SUMMER. SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE PHOTOS AND WE.
I'M GOING TO START WITH K9 BALTON AND SERGEANT DAVE ARNOLD.
CANNON BALTON IS PICTURED UP THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE BIG OLD SMILE ON HIS FACE.
CANINE BALTON'S TEN YEARS OLD. HE SERVED WITH THE CITY FOR NINE YEARS WITH HIS PARTNER, AT THE TIME, OFFICER DAVE ARNOLD. BALTON IS A VAPOR WAG CANINE WITH SPECIALIZED TRAINING TO DETECT EXPLOSIVES.
HE'S CONDUCTED HUNDREDS OF DETECTION SWEEPS AT MAJOR EVENTS, INCLUDING THE BEACH LIFE FESTIVAL, SUPER BOWL, 10-K EVENTS AT SOFI STADIUM, THE GOLDEN GLOBES, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
SO THE TIMING WAS ACTUALLY WORKED OUT REALLY WELL.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO CANINE BALTON. YEAH. YEAH.
WE ALSO HAVE K9 ACE. HE'S PICKED IT UP THERE ON THE LEFT.
HE LOOKS A LITTLE CONFUSED IN THAT PICTURE. I'M NOT SURE HE'S.
HIS WORK HAS INCLUDED EXPLOSIVE SWEEPS AT EVENTS SUCH AS BEACH LIFE FESTIVAL, SUPER BOWL, SUNDAY 10-K, AND EVENTS AT SOFI STADIUM. ACE HAS REACHED THE END OF HIS SERVICE LIFE AND IS BEING RETIRED, WHERE HE WILL SPEND HIS TIME AT HOME AS A MEMBER OF THE HALEY FAMILY.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO K9 ACE. IF I CAN GET A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
THANK YOU. CAN WE GET EVERYBODY FOR A GROUP PHOTO? YES. THIS IS WHY I PULLED THE ITEM. DO WE NEED TO GO.
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YEAH, I KNOW. I WAS TAKING THE PICTURES STAND ON A LADDER IN THE BACK.THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE THE CEREMONIAL DOLLAR FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE DOGS.
WHENEVER YOU´RE READY, THE HANDLERS ARE READY FOR YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC, WHY DON'T YOU STAY DOWN THERE AND TAKE ALL THE FUNDS? THANK YOU.
ANYBODY? ANYBODY ONLINE? NONE. NOPE. OKAY. SO WE NEED A VOTE TO APPROVE TO APPROVE THE RETIREMENT IN H.10. SECOND. OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ROLL CALL VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT? AYE. OKAY H.10 IS APPROVED.
AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE $2? RIGHT HERE.
THIS ONE IS ABOUT APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS TO DO THE SURVEY ON CANNABIS ACROSS THE CITY.
YES. AND I JUST WANTED TO PULL THIS ITEM. I'D LIKE TO VOTE SEPARATELY ON IT.
THAT'S ALL. OKAY. LET'S SEE. WE HAVE ONE CARD FROM THE AUDIENCE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY CARD I HAVE. EVENING COUNCIL.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT STANDARDS.
THESE SERVICES ARE NOT UNIQUE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
MANY COMPANIES COULD ACCOMPLISH AN UNBIASED SURVEY AND FOR A LOT LESS MONEY.
SECOND FM3 SURVEY TECHNIQUES WHEN IT COMES TO CANNABIS ARE HEAVY WITH THE HINT OF BIAS.
THEY PROVIDE EDUCATION BEFORE THEY DO THE SURVEY.
THAT EDUCATION COULD VERY WELL INCLUDE CLEVERLY DEVISED BIAS, AND MOST ASSUREDLY DOES.
QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL. DOES THIS CITY WANT EVEN A HINT OF BIAS IN THIS SURVEY? BECAUSE IF THE 500 SURVEY PARTICIPANTS DON'T REALLY REFLECT THE WANTS OF THE 60,000 REGISTERED VOTERS OF REDONDO BEACH, THEN ALL YOU ELECTED WILL BE IN TROUBLE. BECAUSE, AS THE MAYOR SAID, IF YOU TAKE A POLL, YOU HAVE TO HONOR THE RESULTS.
IF THESE RESULTS ARE BIASED, WELL, YOU GET THE PICTURE.
HAS IT OCCURRED TO THE COUNCIL THAT THIS CANNABIS RETAIL ISSUE HAS MORPHED FROM BEING A POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE TO AN OBSESSION, AN OBSESSION THAT'S DISTRACTING THE CITY'S RESOURCES FROM TAKING REAL DEVELOPMENT ACTION? IT'S WELL PUBLICIZED THAT THE ENTIRE CANNABIS SECTOR, FROM MANUFACTURE TO DISTRIBUTION, IS IN REAL TROUBLE.
THEY'RE IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE. THEY'RE IN PRODUCT QUALITY TROUBLE.
DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND FOR THAT STINK? I URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS CONTRACT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK WHAT YOUR PIN IS? PARDON ME? MAY I ASK WHAT YOUR PIN IS? IT'S THE REDONDO BEACH PIN.
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ALL RIGHT. I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE. I'M [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE], SO. THANK YOU FOR WEARING THAT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING, [INAUDIBLE]. I WOULD STILL URGE YOU TONIGHT TO CONSIDER THAT IT'S STILL PREMATURE.ONE WHEN IT COMES TO THE BILLS AT A STATE LEVEL ON THE TAX ISSUE.
THAT IS RIGHT NOW BEEN PUT INTO SUSPENSE. WE ARE HEARING LESS THAN GOOD NEWS THAT THAT'S LIKELY TO GO THROUGH, IN WHICH CASE THE TAX WILL REMAIN AT THE HIGH LEVEL THAT IT IS.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I JUST GOT WORD ABOUT AN HOUR AGO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEMP ISSUE, THERE'S A SEPARATE HEMP BILL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO INTEGRATE THAT ALLOW FOR CANNABIS COMPANIES TO SELL THOSE PRODUCTS. THEY ARE NOW LOOKING TO PUT IN AMENDMENTS THAT WE´LL FIND OUT BY THE 29TH.
THE AUTHOR´S PUTTING IT FORWARD. AND WE'RE HEARING THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS REQUESTED TO PUT THAT IN THERE IN ORDER FOR THE BILL TO EVEN BE SIGNED BY HIM, TO WHERE THEY WOULD BE LOOKING TO ALLOW THE SALE OF THE VERY PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BAN HERE, WHICH MEANS THOSE SALES, THOSE PRODUCTS WILL BE SOLD IN SHOPS NOT TAXED BY US.
OUR TAX THAT WE HAVE ON FILE RIGHT NOW COMPLETELY EXEMPTS THEM AS WELL TOO, BECAUSE IT'S POORLY WRITTEN AND NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN ON THAT. I SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE WHAT IT'S SHOWING US RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE ARE GETTING AHEAD OF THIS BY A FEW WEEKS, AND WE NEED TO. SO AS YOU CONSIDER THIS TONIGHT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE PUT A PAUSE ON THIS.
WE DON'T NEED THIS RIGHT NOW. WAIT TILL WE HEAR ABOUT THOSE BILLS.
WE'RE LIKELY GETTING OVER OUR SKIS ON THIS ISSUE HERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? I KNOW EVERYBODY GETS A LOT OF PRESSURE ABOUT THIS.
PERSONALLY, I HAVE TO CARRY PEPPER SPRAY WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS NOW.
BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CONTAMINATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SOME OF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT DELAYING, ETC.. BUT IF YOU PICK THE RIGHT CANDIDATE AND YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME DECIDING ON WHO TO PICK, WHICH ENTITY TO PICK. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT CONTAMINATION.
ANYWAY, AS FAR AS CONTAMINATION GOES, YOU CAN HAVE ACCOMPANIED WITH VENDOR COMPLIANCE SCREENING.
THE ONLY PARTNERS WITH BRANDS AND MANUFACTURERS THAT HAVE A CLEAN COMPLIANCE HISTORY.
NO PRODUCT RECALLS, FAILED TESTS OR VIOLATIONS ON RECORD WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS CONTROL.
YOU CAN HAVE ACCOMPANIED THAT ALSO DOES VOLUNTARY BATTERY TESTING, SENDS RANDOM PRODUCT SAMPLES FOR INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY BATCH TESTING, EVEN AFTER STATE CERTIFIED LABS HAVE CHECKED THEM.
SHORT OF SHELF LIFE, YOU CAN HAVE ACCOMPANIED THAT ALSO IMPLEMENTS INTERNAL EXPIRATION POLICIES THAT EXCEED THE STATE TIMELINES TO AVOID CARRYING AGED OR POTENTIALLY DEGRADED PRODUCTS, PARTICULARLY FOR EDIBLES, TINCTURES, AND FLOUR. YOU CAN HAVE IN-HOUSE QUALITY CONTROL PROGRAMS, INTERNAL QUALITY ASSURANCE TEAM, AND A COMPLIANCE LEAD TO REVIEW CERTIFICATES OF ANALYSIS FOR ALL THE INCOMING PRODUCT BATCHES.
YOU CAN HAVE TRANSPARENT BRANDS, CURATE SHELVES WITH BRANDS THAT PUBLICLY SHARE FULL TESTING DATA AND MANUFACTURING PROCESSES, PRIORITIZING VENDORS WITH ROBUST SUPPLY CHAIN TRANSPARENCY AND THIRD PARTY AUDITS.
ALSO, PRODUCT RECALLS AND RAPID RESPONSE PROTOCOLS.
GET A COMPANY THAT WILL DEVELOP AND PUBLICLY SHARE A PRODUCT RECALL POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR IMMEDIATE REMOVAL OF ANY PRODUCT FLAGGED BY REGULATORS, VENDORS, OR CONSUMERS. AND THEN YOU AVOID PROBLEMATIC PRODUCT TYPES.
PROACTIVELY LIMIT OR EXCLUDE HIGH RISK PRODUCT CATEGORIES, E.G.
CERTAIN VAPE TYPES OR POORLY REGULATED CANNABINOIDS THAT MAY POSE GREATER SAFETY CHALLENGES LIKE WHEN PEOPLE GET UP AND THEY SAY, OH, THERE'S CONTAMINATION, THERE'S CONTAMINATION, AND THEY THROW HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS, THEY DON'T SAY WHAT GOOD COMPANIES ARE DOING TO AVOID CONTAMINATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S ALL WHAT YOU READ, WHAT YOU HEAR.
I'LL VOTE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?
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JOAN IRVINE, DISTRICT 1. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, CITY STAFF AND PEOPLE ARE HERE AND WATCHING.WE REVIEWED IT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I COULDN'T FIND.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A YEAR CONTRACT, THAT IT WOULD END LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOME DATE IN THERE THAT IT WOULD GET STARTED BY AND COMPLETED BY, AND NOT HAVE IT JUST KICKING. ANOTHER REASON THAT YOU'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
OH GEE. WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE 30TH TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO THIS CONTRACT.
SO PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE WASTING MONEY.
I MEAN, WE'VE WASTED EIGHT YEARS OF CITY STAFF TIME, OF EVERYBODY'S TIME.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN MONEY COMING TO THE CITY.
I CAN GO ON AND ON AND WOULD PROTECT CHILDREN AND ALL THAT.
IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, IT'S LIKE A YEAR.
DON'T HAVE VAGUE AND HAVE IT START HAPPENING IMMEDIATELY.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, THE INTENT IS TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY, CORRECT? THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUSHING THIS THROUGH NOW. YEAH, THAT'S THE IDEA.
WE'LL WORK WITH THE VENDOR TO PREPARE THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
AND I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE THOSE RESULTS LATER THIS FALL.
AND THIS DOESN'T VIOLATE ANY OF OUR PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS.
NO, OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CODE ARE VERY OPEN.
THE IDEA IS TO ALWAYS PROVIDE AND ENSURE THE BEST VALUE SERVICE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US.
WHEN YOU HAVE A GOOD VENDOR THAT YOU KNOW IS PROVIDING YOU A FAIR PRICE, WE TEND TO MOVE FORWARD AND FM3 SERVED US VERY WELL DURING THE MEASURE FP CONVERSATION, THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIVE AND ULTIMATELY WE FELT PROVIDED GREAT VALUE SERVICE TO THE CITY.
OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? YES I HAVE MELISSA DECHANDT. GO AHEAD, MELISSA.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF. I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD WITH ASSESSING THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO THEIR DESIRE TO HAVE RETAIL CANNABIS. I DEEPLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP AND A MOVE.
I WORK IN BIOTECH AND PUBLIC HEALTH, AND WE DO POPULATION SURVEYS ALL THE TIME.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S. WE PICK THE VENDORS TO GET WHAT WE WANT.
SO TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE LISTENED TO.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT INDIVIDUAL CANNABIS OPERATORS CAN CONTROL.
THERE'S A FAILURE WITH FALSIFIED TESTING RESULTS AND ON AND ON AND ON.
TIMES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH THE SAME ISSUE, WHICH IS STILL NOT RESOLVED AS OF THIS MORNING AT 8 A.M., THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS CONTROL HAS NOT MADE ANY CHANGES.
THEY HAVE 60 OFFICERS STATEWIDE TO REGULATE THESE ISSUES, AND IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.
SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. AND THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS I HEAR A LOT ABOUT HOW HAVING RETAIL CANNABIS IS THERE TO PROTECT OUR YOUTH, AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THE PEER REVIEWED DATA REBUTS THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY SINGLE PEER REVIEWED PAPER YOU READ, IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE. AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S RICH HEARING COMMENTARY FROM SOMEONE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY, WHO FINANCIALLY WILL BENEFIT, OR WHO HOPE TO GET A CONTRACT FROM THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY, TALKING ABOUT CHILDHOOD SAFETY WHEN THEY THEMSELVES HAVE BESMIRCHED THE LARGEST AND OLDEST NATIONAL CHILDHOOD ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION. SO I FIND THAT JUST DEEPLY DISGUSTING.
AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. TAKE CARE EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? YES. MARCY GUILLERMO. GO AHEAD, MARCY.
YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF AND EVERYONE.
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WHY IS IT THAT MANHATTAN BEACH IS NOT DOING IT? WHY IS IT HERMOSA BEACH NOT DOING IT? WHY IS IT TORRANCE IS NOT DOING IT? PALOS VERDES, EL SEGUNDO? ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION.NUMBER TWO, I DISAGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL SORTS AND HOW TO DO THIS.
IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD GROUND TO PROTECT, TO SAY NO, WE DID IT CORRECTLY. NOW WHAT IS THE MOTIVE BEHIND THIS? WHY DO YOU WANT TO. I MEAN, IF THOSE REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS WANT TO OPEN A CANNABIS, A DISPENSARY, WHY THEY DON'T GO TO THE NEXT CITY AND TOWN THAT ALLOWS IT AND DELIVERS IT FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO USE IT? WHERE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN? HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE ALL WHAT A RESIDENT HAS INDICATED.
VALIDATION, CHECK THIS, CHECK THAT. HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST? AS OF TODAY, I HAVEN'T SEEN A VALID NET ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH MONEY THE CITY WILL COLLECT AFTER EXPENSES FOR ENFORCEMENT. ALSO, ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT DURING THE BEACH FESTIVAL THEY WERE USING THIS MARIJUANA, CANNABIS. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. HAVE WE SENT A LETTER TO THE OWNERS OF THAT FESTIVAL, AND WHAT STEPS HAS THE CITY TAKEN TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS? IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S ILLEGAL TO SMOKE IN PUBLIC AND IN PUBLIC PARKS.
SO I ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE BEACH CITY HEALTH DISTRICT, THE PERSON THAT CAME TO TALK TO YOU AND GAVE YOU REAL EXAMPLES OF WHY IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS IN OUR CITY.
SO IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE, AND I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE I'M WATCHING, LOOK DEEP INTO IT AND TALK TO YOUR RESIDENTS, GO TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
AND THE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 1, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
WE SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH THE BALLOT MEASURE AND ASK A PLAIN SINGLE QUESTION.
DO YOU WANT A DISPENSARY? YOUR TIME´S UP. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE NO ONE ELSE AND NO ECOMMENTS.
OKAY, JUST TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF THE COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS A LONG HISTORY THAT PREDATES, I THINK, ALL OF US ON THIS COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, IT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE HAVING A BALLOT MEASURE FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS WHERE, A SPECIFIC VENDOR DEALER WANTED TO HAVE US VOTE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE AND A PROCESS THAT WOULD FAVOR HIS JUST, DISPENSARIES.
AND THE CITY AT THAT TIME SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO COUNTER THAT.
THE COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE ON HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT CHOOSING A POTENTIAL DISPENSARY IN THE CITY, BUT THEY HAVE NOT ACTED TO PUT OUT A. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, A CALL FOR BIDS OR OR APPLICATIONS.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS SEVERAL COUNCIL, WE'VE HEARD THE PUBLIC SAY WE'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY, DO WE WANT DISPENSARIES IN REDONDO? AND SO THIS COUNCIL HAS VOTED TO PUT A SURVEY OUT.
AND THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ALL DIFFERENT NUANCED SIDES OF THIS DEBATE.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY BIAS IN THE SELECTION OF A CONTRACTOR BASED ON A RESULT THAT THE WHOLE COUNCIL WANTS, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I THINK OVERALL THEY JUST WANT AN HONEST ANSWER ON WHERE THE PUBLIC STANDS ON THIS.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS.
LAST TIME WE VOTED 4 TO 1 ON THIS, IT'S OUR SECOND TIME.
IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING. AND COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC PULLED IT BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE SHE WANTED TO AGREE WITH ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SO THE INTENT OF PULLING THIS IS TO GIVE HER THE CHANCE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE WHAT THEY WANT ON THIS ISSUE.
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SO WITH THAT I WILL CALL. WELL, I NEED A MOTION.MOTION TO ADOPT BY 4/5 VOTE BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.
CC-2508-065. AND. SECOND. OKAY, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE. AYE. AYE. AYE, MY VOTE IS JUST SIGNIFYING THE TIMING OF IT.
JUST AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
SO A NO, A YES FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. AYE.
SO MOTION CARRIES 4/5. DO YOU WANT TO READ OFF THE.
ADOPT BY 4/5 VOTE AND BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NO.
CC2-508-065. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROPRIATING $34,750 FROM THE UNALLOCATED GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CONTRACTUAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ACCOUNT.
THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE JUMPING TO ITEM J.
[J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES.WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST.
SO I DO HAVE TWO WRITTEN REQUESTS HERE. THE FIRST IS RON MAROKO.
WE INTENTIONALLY GOT THE SLOWEST MOTOR IN THE WORLD TO MOVE THAT UP AND DOWN.
I CAN'T READ MY WRITING THAT FAR AWAY. HONORABLE COUNCIL, MAYOR.
I'M RON MAROKO FROM DISTRICT 3. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WILDERNESS PARK TODAY.
I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS STARTED THE MEETING WITH THAT DISCUSSION.
IN DECEMBER 2025, THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION VOTED TO AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION ON HAVING WILDERNESS PARK DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK IN THE CITY AND IN THE STATE. NOW WE'RE IN AUGUST.
AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE TOLD THAT I NEEDED TO REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO REFER TO STAFF TO ACTUALLY GET THIS ON THE AGENDA AND MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU TODAY IS TO AGENDIZE SUPPORTING AND AUTHORIZING SIGNING OF THE APPLICATION.
I DO HAVE SOME MATERIALS WHICH I'LL PASS OUT AS WELL WITH THAT AND.
I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE IF THOSE MATERIALS ARE TO BE HANDED OUT.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AYE. AYE.
AYE. I'M SURPRISING MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
ARE YOU THERE? JUST CHANGING SOMETHING?¿. OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT? AYE. OKAY. WE HAVE NO VOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
AYE. AYE. WE DO HAVE A VOTE. THE VOICE OF GOD.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO A SECOND THING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AT OUR PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION, WE VOTED TO DELIST A PROPERTY ON HARPER AVENUE.
THIS MEANS THE PROPERTY IS LIKELY GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED BY THREE HOMES.
IT'S BEEN ON THE LIST FOR A WHILE. AND WHAT I THINK IT DOES EMBODY THAT YOU DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE, IS THIS IS A STORY ABOUT PRE ANNEXATION. SO THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN HERMOSA, REDONDO, MANHATTAN BEACH ARE ALL IN FLUX AT THAT POINT.
SO MY GOAL TODAY IS TO THROW OUT AN IDEA. AND I'M GLAD THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PERSON'S IN THE AUDIENCE, TO PRESERVE THIS HOUSE, TO REPURPOSE IT, AND TO CREATE A NECESSARY VISUAL ARTS CENTER IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE HOUSE IS IN RELATIVELY STRONG SHAPE FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN WALKING AROUND THERE, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO MOVE IT FROM WHERE IT IS ON HARPER AVENUE TO THE DOMINGUEZ PARK AS A THIRD PAD AND AGAIN, GET THAT VISUAL ARTS CENTER PUT IN THERE.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL CONSIDER THAT, AND AS AN IDEA.
THANK YOU. CLARIFYING QUESTION, WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS OF THAT HOUSE? WHAT? THE ADDRESS OF THAT HOUSE THAT YOU MENTIONED ON HARPER DRIVE? 1224.
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IT ACTUALLY MAY HAVE SOME STATISTICAL HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL FOR HERMOSA BEACH, TOO.SO ANYWAY. OKAY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
FOR US TO APPLY FOR A HISTORIC. AND I DON'T WANT TO GO DEEP INTO THIS.
I JUST WANT A CURSORY ANSWER. DO WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE COUNCIL JUST TO APPLY FOR A HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR A PARK? FOR A LANDMARK? I MEAN, THAT APPLICATION WOULD BE A CITY APPLICATION.
I MEAN, I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BRING UP, IT SHOULD BE A REFERRAL FOR US FOR A DISCUSSION.
THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE COULD BE SOME IMPLICATIONS WITH THAT. SO JUST TO.
YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT MORE THAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T, SO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. NEXT IS JIM MUELLER.
AND THAT'S ALL THE CARDS I HAVE. HELLO AGAIN, COUNCIL.
HOW CAN YOU TELL IF A SPACE IS A THRIVING COMMUNITY CENTER? YOU SEE PEOPLE. PEOPLE ARE WALKING ALONG THE SIDEWALK GOING IN AND OUT OF BUSINESSES.
SOME ARE SITTING AND RELAXING IN AN OUTDOOR CAFE OR PUBLIC SPACE.
PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING THEIR TIME THERE.
WHY DON'T YOU SEE PEOPLE SPENDING TIME ON ARTESIA CORRIDOR? BECAUSE IT FEELS CRAMPED, NOISY AND TO SOME, UNSAFE.
IF YOU MUST SET FOOT ON ARTESIA, YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO GET IN AND GET OUT.
SPEED LIMIT, 35, OFTEN EXCEEDED. A RUSH OF DISORDERLY NOISE AND POTENTIAL DANGER POUNDS YOUR HEAD.
YOU'RE NERVOUS AND ALERT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE KIDS WITH YOU.
AS MUCH AS I LOVE TREES, THE TREES IN THE CENTER AND GREEN BELT ADD TO THE SENSE OF BEING IN A TUNNEL, A NOISY ONE, AND NO ONE, EXCEPT MAYBE HOMELESS LINGERS IN A TUNNEL.
WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR MORE PEOPLE FRIENDLY? FIRST, DISCOURAGE THROUGH TRAFFIC. MANY MOTORISTS WHO ENTER HAWTHORNE, OR REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD, OR INGLEWOOD, ARE ON THEIR WAY TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
CAN THROUGH TRAFFIC BE DISCOURAGED? REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT? GET TOUGHER WITH VIOLATORS? ADJUST THE TIMING OF THE STOPPING LIGHTS TO DISCOURAGE THROUGH TRAFFIC DIVERTED TO OTHER BOULEVARDS? MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD IS WIDE AND RUNS PARALLEL TO ARTESIA, GOES THROUGH A MAINLY INDUSTRIAL AREA, HAS MUCH LESS TRAFFIC, EVEN THOUGH IT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE BEACH.
SAME WITH 190TH STREET. COULD THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS COME UP WITH A WAY TO ENCOURAGE DRIVERS TO DIVERT TO THESE ARTERIES? CAN MORE PUBLIC SPACE BE CREATED ALONG THE BOULEVARD? SHALLOW LOTS MAKE SPACE TIGHT? COULD THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ENCOURAGE DESIGNS THAT INCREASE SETBACKS, CONSOLIDATE LOTS INTO LARGER PROPERTIES THAT PROVIDE SOME DISTANCE FROM THE TRAFFIC TUNNEL THAT IS ARTESIA? THE ART CONSULTANT FOR ARTESIA ART PROJECTS SAID THAT THE CHOSEN ART CAN ONLY BE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, OF WHICH THERE IS VERY, VERY LITTLE RIGHT NOW.
BUT COULD THEY BE ENCOURAGED TO CHOOSE ART THAT IS PORTABLE AND COULD BE MOVED IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD? FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES BEYOND THE AACAP ARE NEEDED TO RESTORE ARTESIA TO A GREAT REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR. GEORGETTE GANTNER, DISTRICT 2.
I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, AND IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE I'M LOCATED NEAR A COFFEE SHOP AND JOE'S. AND EVERY FRIDAY WE HAVE STREET SWEEPING FROM 9 TO 12 AND JUST ABOUT EVERY FRIDAY, PEOPLE DO NOT READ THE SIGN THAT SAYS, PLEASE DO NOT PARK. AND JUST ABOUT EVERY FRIDAY, I DON'T GET STREET SWEPT AND NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE ALONG OUR REALLY LONG STREET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. THE CITY EVEN PUT IN A LARGER SIGN.
I THINK I COMPLAINED TO SOMEBODY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THEY MADE THE SIGN LARGE.
SO WE DON'T GET STREET SWEPT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE WORST, BECAUSE THEN I JUST RAKE AND I CLEAN BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT GOING DOWN INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE SEWERS AND SO FORTH. WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S A PROBLEM.
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AND IT SAYS STREET SWEEPING, BUT IT DOESN'T INDICATE A VIOLATION.IT DOESN'T HAVE HOURS. I THINK THEY DO SAY WHATEVER THE DAY IS.
IT NEVER, NEVER GETS SWEPT IN. IT'S FILTHY. SO I THINK IT'S A SAFETY AND A HEALTH ISSUE, NOT SAFETY.
BUT IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE RECTIFIED.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THAN THE OTHER THING.
BUT HOPEFULLY THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE SIGN THAT.
AND THEN THE METER PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TICKET.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WITH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? JOAN IRVINE, DISTRICT 1. BUT I'M HERE TO REPRESENT KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED. IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS ON OCTOBER 22ND, WE ARE HAVING OUR ANNUAL COMMUNITY MIXER.
AND SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES WORKING ON THAT.
WE HONOR A PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE BECAUSE REALLY, IT'S PUBLIC WORKS THAT DOES THE WORK.
SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HONOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR THAT WE HONOR.
ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED ABOUT GARBAGE GOING OUT TO THE SEA AND ALL THAT.
THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN THERE, THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN THERE, THE ROTARY HAS BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND SCOUT TROOPS HAVE BEEN THERE. BUT WE EVEN HAD A TEACHER FROM CORONA BRING OUT STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF OUR CLEANUPS, BECAUSE SHE WANTED THEM TO SEE WHERE THE TRASH THAT THEY LEFT IN THEIR CITY ENDED UP.
SO WE REALLY DO, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF WANT TO DO THAT.
YOU CAN CONTACT JOAN AT. OR SWEEPS, AT KEEPTHEESPLANADEBEAUTIFUL.ORG AND YOU CAN REQUEST IT.
AND THEN WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU'RE COMING OUT.
SO IT'S A WAY THAT YOUR GROUP CAN GET MORE VISIBILITY.
AND WE LOVE WHEN THE KIDS COME BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE LEARNING YOUNG.
AND WE TAKE SOME TIME TO EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SO IT TEACHES THEM ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT TEACHES THEM ABOUT VOLUNTEERISM. SO IT'S REALLY JUST AN EXCITING TIME.
AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. FOR ALMOST 13 YEARS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AND I'VE PROBABLY ONLY MISSED LIKE, ONE A YEAR. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS JUST DEAR TO MY HEART.
AND WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT WHO YOU MET ONE OF THE LAST TIMES.
SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT ANYBODY WHO.
ANY GROUPS THAT WANT TO COME OUT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WE'D LOVE TO FEATURE YOU. AND ALSO, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR MIXER COMING UP.
AND IT'S JUST AS I SAID, IT'S OBVIOUSLY MY PASSION AND A LEGACY THAT I LEAVE TO REDONDO.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE NONE ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS.
OKAY, THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. SO WE WILL MOVE ON.
WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. WE HAVE NO CONTINUED PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE'LL JUMP IN DOWN TO N.1. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE BIKEWAY EXTENSION TO GRANT AVENUE AND THE
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MOBILITY HUB PROJECT. SO WITH THAT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LIGHT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ANDY WINJE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HERE WITH RYAN LIU, OUR PRINCIPAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER. EXCUSE ME, RYAN.
I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL HISTORY OF THIS, ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF PROJECTS HERE CONVERGING TOGETHER, MUCH LIKE THE BIKE PATHS IN THESE PROJECTS, WILL CONVERGE TOGETHER AT THIS LOCATION.
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THE BEACH VIA A BIKE PATH. AND SO THIS IS A CONNECTION PIECE HERE AS WE EXTEND THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKE PATH INTO THE PARCELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY VACANT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S BEING BUILT CURRENTLY.WE HAVE A LITTLE STRETCH AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WILL GO DOWN INGLEWOOD AVENUE AND THEN ACROSS GRANT, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED BY METRO.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AVAILABLE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING.
THEY REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF CITIES ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO FOR 25 PRIORITY CORRIDORS IN L.A.
COUNTY. I BELIEVE THEY AWARDED TEN GRANTS. WE WERE A RECIPIENT OF THAT GRANT FOR THE REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WHICH IS RENAMED NOW GRANT AND RIPLEY ALSO, AS WELL AS REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD IN OUR CITY.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING THAT. DESIGN ON THAT, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN ON THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, ALONG WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE ASKS OF YOU TO APPROVE THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR BOTH PROJECTS TO APPROVE THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH METRO FOR THE MAT PROJECT, AND TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT AND FINAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I´M RYAN LIU, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION EXTENSION TO INGLEWOOD AVENUE.
THE FIRST PROJECT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY IS A FURTHER EXTENSION OF THAT BIKEWAY DOWN TO GRANT AVENUE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS TRIANGULAR PARK GREEN SPACE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT THE CITY NOW FULLY OWNS.
THE SECOND PROJECT ANDY MENTIONED WAS THE MAT PROJECT, METRO ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED ALONG WITH OUR AGENCY PARTNERS, MAT PROJECT. BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS DEPEND ON EACH OTHER AT THE INGLEWOOD AND GRANT INTERSECTION.
BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH FULL DESIGN AND PARTIAL CONSTRUCTION THROUGH REGIONAL MEASURE M FUNDS, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR BOTH PROJECTS TO BRING BOTH PROJECTS TO FULL COMPLETION USING MEASURE M FUNDS.
WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT THE METRO BOARD WILL APPROVE BOTH PROJECTS.
THE FIRST PROJECT, THE NRBB EXTENSION AND NATIVE PLANTING MOBILITY HUB.
THIS BLUE LINE SHOWS THE EXISTING BIKE PATH AND THE UNDER-CONSTRUCTION EXTENSION SHOWING THAT IT WILL GO DOWN INGLEWOOD AVENUE, CONNECT WITH THE MAT PROJECT AND THIS TRIANGULAR SPACE IS THE MOBILITY HUB.
THIS PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT BIKE PATH DOWN AS A PROTECTED TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK, AND IT WILL MIX WITH THE GRANT INGLEWOOD INTERSECTION.
SO PERHAPS LIKE A WAYFINDING SIGNS, A REST AREA, BIKE CORRALS AND AMENITIES FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING AND BIKING. SHADE STRUCTURES, BIKE REPAIR STATION, AS WELL AS SCREENING FOR THE ADJACENT CEMETERY, AND NATIVE PLANTING FEATURES. HERE ARE SOME OF THE DESIGN COMPONENTS.
THINGS LIKE NATIVE HABITAT, SHADE STRUCTURES, PROVISIONS FOR CITY MAINTENANCE.
WATER BOTTLE FULFILLING STATION. EMERGENCY PHONE, PUBLIC WI-FI.
AND AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO PAUSE HERE, AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON JUST THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER PROJECT. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THIS IS.
I'M ASKING ON BEHALF OF ZEIN. IS THERE A POLLINATOR FOUNTAIN? THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE INCLUDE.
I THINK WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE FINAL DESIGN.
PERFECT. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE TIMING ON. THE DESIGN HAS TO HAPPEN, EVERYTHING HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST.
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BUT WHEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE DOING THIS, HOW FAR IN THE FUTURE ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AND THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN TONIGHT, WE INTEND TO SPEND THE NEXT ONE YEAR IN FINAL DESIGN.AND AFTER THAT ONE YEAR WE'LL NEED A FEW MONTHS FOR PROCUREMENT, PUTTING IT OUT TO BID AND THEN EVENTUAL CONSTRUCTION, MAYBE 12 TO 18 MONTHS PERHAPS. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN OPTIMISTIC TIMELINE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THE APPROVAL TONIGHT, WE PLAN TO MOVE FULL STEAM AHEAD ON BOTH PROJECTS.
AND FOR THE CITY MANAGER, IF WE NEED TO RELOCATE FIRE STATION #2 TO THAT SPOT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TIMING MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK OUT OKAY.
AND IF WE HAD TO DELAY CONSTRUCTION A BIT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT USE IF IT'S ULTIMATELY THE LOCATION FOR THE STAGING, I THINK THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AS WELL. SO WE'LL KEEP TABS ON BOTH, AS RYAN MENTIONED, OPTIMISTICALLY, WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SHOVELS IN THE GROUND IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE BEST CASE SCENARIO. SO, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY BOTH GOALS COULD BE ACHIEVED.
THAT'S GOOD. I WAS JUST KIND OF HOPING THAT IT WASN'T LIKE, HEY, WE COULD GET STARTED IN SIX MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT, IN WHICH CASE THEN WE GOT CONFLICTS. BUT A YEAR AND A HALF AT BEST ESTIMATES, MIGHT BE REASONABLE.
ARE THESE DESIGN COMPONENTS REQUIREMENTS, OR ARE THESE JUST THESE? THESE ARE STAFF'S IDEAS. AND YOU KNOW, THE MOBILITY HUB FEATURES ARE PROBABLY MORE OF REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE LAND AGREEMENT, AND THE FUNDING THAT WAS USED TO ACQUIRE THAT LAND.
BUT A LOT OF THESE OTHER COMPONENTS ARE CERTAINLY UP FOR DISCUSSION AND MODIFICATION.
YEAH. I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS PUBLIC WI-FI MAY BE AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE, RIGHT? YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IF THAT'S THE WISH.
YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO SHOOT IT DOWN NOW. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. SORRY, I'M ON DOUBLE.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE ALL THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS.
MY THOUGHT WAS, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET A.
WHAT IS IT, A CONTAINER FOUNTAIN OR CONTAINER REFILL STATION? THEY HAVE THAT IN THERE. I GREATLY SUPPORT A POLLINATOR FOUNTAIN TO BOTH THE BIRDS AND BIKE RIDERS CAN GET REHYDRATED AT THIS LOCATION.
YEAH. WE ARE REQUESTING A WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATION.
GREAT. THAT'S IT. SO THE NEXT PROJECT IS MUCH BIGGER.
WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION FROM L.A.
WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 15% DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.
THESE FIRST PHASES OF THE PROJECT WERE LED BY L.A.
I WILL GO FURTHER INTO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PORTION.
THEY ARE FULL AGENCY PARTNERS ON THIS PROJECT.
AT THE TIME OF CONCEPTUALIZING THIS PROJECT, TORRANCE WAS APPROACHED AND THEY DECLINED TO BE A FULL AGENCY PARTNER, BUT THEY WERE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROJECT, SOME FORM OF THE PROJECT.
WE RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS AND THAT WAS DONE IN 2024.
AS OF RECENT, THEIR CITY IS NOT QUITE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME, AND PERHAPS IS IN OPPOSITION MAINLY DUE TO A MINOR LOSS OF PARKING WITHIN THEIR CITY AND PERHAPS LOSS OF PARKING OUTSIDE THEIR CITY.
BUT AS AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, REDONDO BEACH IS NOW THE LEAD AGENCY.
WE´LL BE LEADING THIS PROJECT, AS WE DO HAVE THE MOST MILEAGE FOR THE PROJECT.
HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WAS PERFORMED BETWEEN 2022.
YES. THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE GOT TO GET ALL THE APPROVALS OF ALL THE CITIES.
SO LAWNDALE AND THE L.A. COUNTY WILL ALSO SIGN ON TO THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AS FULL AGENCY PARTNERS.
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I BELIEVE LAWNDALE IS TAKING THEIRS NEXT MONTH.AND THE COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT PROCESS, I THINK.
THEY WILL BE A PART OF THE SELECTION OF VENDORS AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
WELL, THE MONEY IS DEFINED PER THE METRO GRANT, RIGHT.
AND SO YES, THE MONEY WILL. WE'LL EXPEND THE FUNDS AND WE'LL SEE.
SO. SO WE HAVE TO FRONT FUND IT? WE FRONT. THAT'S ALL OF THE METRO GRANTS ARE THAT WAY.
OKAY. AND TORRANCE IS A, IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, AND.
TORRANCE HAS DIFFERENT DEMANDS FROM THEIR PUBLIC.
AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF IS TELLING US.
THEY HAVE HAD SOME STAFF TURNOVER SINCE THIS PROJECT STARTED.
THEY WERE MORE FAVORABLE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE LESS FAVORABLE NOW. THE PARKING HAS BEEN THE LATEST CONCERN THAT THEY'VE HAD, LOSS OF PARKING ALONG 192ND, 190TH STREET. SORRY. AND ALSO ALONG REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD.
WE THINK WE CAN DESIGN WITH WITHOUT ANY LOSS OF PARKING TO TORRANCE.
IT WILL BE A KIND OF A DIMINISHED BIKE FACILITY ON THEIR SIDE OF THE STREET, IF YOU WILL.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE FIELD WE'RE PLAYING ON RIGHT NOW.
DO THEY GET A VETO? OR. NO. THEY CAN, THEY COULD PREVENT US FROM BUILDING IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE PROJECT.
WE WOULD JUST BUILD AROUND. THERE COULD BE A BLACKHOLE IN THE MIDDLE. IT COULD BE A GAP.
AS YOU CAN SEE, MANY EVENTS, A COUPLE SURVEYS, LOTS OF ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO RESIDENTS, STAKEHOLDERS, SCHOOL DISTRICT PARENTS, INCLUDING RESIDENTS FROM THE OTHER, FROM LAWNDALE, L.A. COUNTY AND TORRANCE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THESE SURVEYS.
WE BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION IN 2023 AND 2025.
THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE PREFERRED ALIGNMENT THAT WAS DONE TO THE SURVEY WITH THE PUBLIC, ALONG THIS REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD RIPLEY AVENUE CORRIDOR.
THESE THIS PROJECT LINKS DOMINGUEZ PARK WITH OUR EXISTING BIKE LANES AND BERYL WITH TWO, YOU KNOW, OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, FUTURE K LINE STATION, SOUTH BAY GALLERIA, ALONDRA PARK AND EL CAMINO COLLEGE.
IT LINKS A LOT OF DESTINATIONS AND IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE FLATTER CORRIDORS.
I COULD ASK A QUESTION ON THAT. IF YOU COULD GO BACK, IF I MAY, MAYOR.
THE LEGEND SHOWS WHAT? SO THIS LEGEND I WASN'T AROUND WHEN THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT OCCURRED, BUT THIS REPRESENTS THE PREFERRED ROUTES BY THE PUBLIC DURING THAT SURVEY PERIOD.
AND SO THERE WAS A PREFERENCE, STRONGER PREFERENCE FOR RIPLEY AVENUE AT THAT TIME.
WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS? THE NUMBERS WERE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SUGGESTED THE ROUTE.
SO 16 PEOPLE. 16 PEOPLE WANTED. 10 PEOPLE? YEAH.
2 PEOPLE. SO THE PURPOSE HERE WAS. I AM READING THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS WAS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF ONE SHOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT.
OKAY. A COUPLE DOZEN PEOPLE. FOR THAT ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND SO HERE IS THE PREFERRED ALIGNMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PROPOSING BIKE LANES ON 190TH STREET AND LILIENTHAL LANE RATHER THAN RIPLEY DUE TO SOME PRETTY SEVERE GRADES ON RIPLEY. AND SO IF THE ROUTE TAKES 190TH STREET AND IT'S MUCH FLATTER.
AND IT DOES FOLLOW SOME BIKE COMMUTE PATTERNS THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE STUDENTS.
THE COLORS HERE SHOW THE TYPE OF BIKE LANE THAT'S PROPOSED.
SO WITHIN REDONDO BEACH WE'RE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, WE FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO PROVIDE PROTECTED BIKE LANES FOR MOST OF THE CITY'S MILEAGE. AND THEN WITHIN LAWNDALE AND CITY OF TORRANCE, STRIPED CLASS TWO BIKE LANES.
SO THOSE ARE NOT PROTECTED BIKE LANES, BUT THAT'S WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED THERE AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN ONCE WE HIT AINSWORTH NEAR ALONDRA PARK, PICKING UP A PROTECTED TWO WAY BIKE FACILITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE THERE ARE VERY, VERY LOW PARKING UTILIZATION. PARKING IS PROHIBITED FOR MOST OF THE DAY, MOST OF THE OVERNIGHT AS WELL, AND VERY FEW DRIVEWAYS ON THE PARK SIDE OF THE STREET.
OKAY. QUICK QUESTION, IF I COULD MAYOR. YES. VERY QUICK.
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WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF E-BIKES AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IT A LOT.YOU MENTIONED RIPLEY DOES HAVE A BIT OF AN INCLINE.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT HOW STAFF LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT MOST PEOPLE RIDING BIKES ARE ON AN E-BIKE, AND MAYBE THAT INCLINE ISN'T AS BIG OF A CHALLENGE AS IT MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW YEARS AGO.
AND IF SO, ANY. WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND OUT ON THAT? YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH DONE SPECIFICALLY ON E-BIKES OR PEDAL BIKES, BUT I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO PROVIDE FACILITIES FOR SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T HAVE ANY BIKE, YOU KNOW, COULD STILL SAFELY TRAVERSE ON A FLATTER STREET.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, RIPLEY AVENUE IS A IS A PRETTY NARROW STREET, DOESN'T HAS A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ROOM FOR, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY PROTECTED BIKE LANES WITH ALL THE DRIVEWAYS.
AND WITHOUT TAKING AWAY ALL THE PARKING THAT MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS MIGHT USE.
NOT TAKING AWAY PARKING. THERE WILL BE A FEW SPACES LOST ON OUR SIDE OF 1/90, BUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF 190TH STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE DOES NOT ALLOW PARKING TODAY. OKAY. AND DOES THE FACT THAT PERHAPS THE MAJORITY OF YOUTH ARE RIDING E-BIKES AT THIS POINT CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED HERE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO PROVIDE A VARIETY OF ROUTES FOR A VARIETY OF USERS.
EVEN WITH AN E-BIKE. AND SO THIS IS TO PROVIDE THAT FACILITY FOR THEM.
OKAY. AND ON BERYL STREET, THAT'S RIGHT OVER HERE WHERE WE HAVE THE NICELY ASPHALTED AND PICK.
OKAY. HAVE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAFF HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEASURE THE NUMBER OF BIKES THAT ARE CURRENTLY USING THAT PARTICULAR BIKE PATH THAT WE WAS PAINTED AND SET UP.
ON BERYL STREET? YEAH, IS THAT BEING USED KIND OF AT ALL AT THIS POINT? YES IT IS. IT IS PRETTY HEAVILY USED. ABSOLUTELY.
I, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT COUNT ON BERYL STREET GOING, YOU KNOW, CURVING AROUND TO 190TH.
BUT WE FROM MY LAST ESTIMATE, WE HAVE OVER 500 BIKES A DAY PASSING THROUGH THE FLAGLER BERYL INTERSECTION, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING DOWN FLAGLER OR COMING DOWN BERYL, THAT THAT SINGLE INTERSECTION IS THE MOST HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BIKE INTERSECTION IN THE CITY, RIGHT WITH ALL OF. WHICH IS. THE KIDS GOING TO THE SCHOOL.
CORRECT. YEAH. HARBOR, AND HARBOR DRIVE. ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE.
HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT KIND OF USAGE, IF ANY, THAT'S GETTING? YES. SO ACTUALLY WHEN WE TOOK OUR BIKE COUNTS IN 2024 AND THIS YEAR WE DID SEE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE.
ABOUT LIKE A 13 OR 15% INCREASE. AND I THINK THERE ARE MORE BIKES GOING THROUGH THE DIAMOND FLAGLER ALLEY THAN THAN BERYL, BECAUSE THE DIAMOND FLAGLER ALLEY PROVIDES THE MOST DIRECT CONNECTION TO REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S ALSO LESS STEEP THAN BERYL, BUT BERYL DOES SEE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IN THE MAGNITUDE OF 100 TO 500 BIKES PER DAY ON BERYL. BERYL IMMEDIATELY EAST OF PCH. YES. OR IMMEDIATELY WEST OF PROSPECT.
OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT SEGMENT OF BERYL. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANTED TO JUST TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING. I'LL TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY, I CAN'T SPEAK GOING UP THE HILL FROM BERYL THERE, BUT I OFTEN GO DOWN BROADWAY TO GO TO BERYL TO GET INTO THE HARBOR.
GET TO THE HARBOR? YEAH. AND TO THAT, TO THE BIKE TRACK DOWN THERE.
SO I SEE A LOT OF USE THAT FAR DOWN TODAY. I DID DRIVE UP BERYL TO GET TO HAWTHORNE, AND THERE WERE BIKES ACTUALLY GOING UP THE HILL TOWARDS THE SCHOOL AT BERYL HEIGHT. SO YEAH, SO, SO A PROJECT LIKE THIS CONNECTS OUR HARBOR AND OUR AMENITIES AT THE COAST WITH, WITH INLAND AREAS, NOT JUST WITHIN REDONDO BEACH, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CITIES MORE INLAND THAN US.
SO, SO YEAH, THESE COLORS SHOW THAT THE TYPE OF BIKE FACILITY THAT'S PROVIDED.
SO I BELIEVE, ANDY MIGHT HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON A LAND SWAP AGREEMENT.
OUR TRANSIT CENTER PROJECT INCLUDED TWO PHASES.
THE SECOND WAS WIDENING KINGSDALE NORTH OF GRANT AVENUE.
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LOOSELY PLANTED RIGHT NOW. THE PROJECT TO WIDEN THAT ACTUALLY HAD A WIDER MULTI-USE PATH IN MIND AS A BIKE FACILITY THERE. THE CURRENT, THE OWNER OF THE GALLERIA ASKED US.THEY PROMISED THAT THEY WOULD BUILD THAT LATER.
THEY WEREN'T SURE WHAT THEY WANTED THAT TO LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S A GAP, AS IS THE SECTION OF ARTESIA BETWEEN KINGS DALE AND REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD.
WE CAN BEGIN TO DESIGN THAT CONNECTING PIECE RIGHT THERE WITH THE HELP OF THE GALLERIA, OF COURSE, OR AT LEAST A TEMPORARY WORKAROUND UNTIL THAT GETS SETTLED.
WE COULD WE COULD CERTAINLY DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
WE HAVE THREE EASTBOUND LANES THERE ON ARTESIA AND ONLY TWO WESTBOUND LANES.
PLANES. SO OUR CONCEPT IS USING THAT THIRD LANE, THAT TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH, THAT THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. AND WE COULD WE WERE EXPLORING, LOOKING AT USING THAT THIRD EASTBOUND LANE, THE RIGHTMOST LANE TO FOR A BIKE FACILITY. THE SIDEWALK THERE IS VERY NARROW.
NOT A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES IN THE WAY RIGHT NOW, OTHER THINGS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IN THAT SPACE TO CUT THROUGH THE GALLERIA OF PARKING LOT TO DO THIS.
EXCEPT FOR THAT 20-FOOT STRIP THERE ALONG KINGSDALE.
DOES THE FUNDING, IS IT INCLUDING THAT SECTION, THOUGH? FUNDING DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT SECTION. THE GALLERIA IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE KINGSDALE PIECE.
SO WE DO THINK WE'LL HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE. COMMITMENTS FROM THE GALLERY TO CONNECT THE DOTS THERE.
WHEN WE GET THAT FAR. OKAY. I DON'T COUNT ON ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE.
SO, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. WE MAY NEED TO FLEX AND DO.
AND I THINK METRO MEASURE M CONTINUES TO BE AN EXCELLENT SOURCE FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO APPROACH THEM FOR A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, TO SAY, CAN WE USE A PIECE OF YOUR PARKING LOT TO CONNECT THESE TWO PIECES? I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF PEOPLE JUST SORT OF TRAVERSE THE VACANT PARKING LOTS TODAY ON THEIR OWN.
YEAH, I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN WE WERE APPLYING THIS, WE HAD EXPECTED THAT THE GALLERIA WOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, MORE UNDERSTANDING THAT. THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
YEAH. NOW IT'S AN LOOK LIKE AT EACH END OF THE GALLERIA SIDE. SO THE OWNERSHIP, WE CAN WORK WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE THAN.
OKAY. I WOULD SAY, FORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT A LACK OF SPACE THAT'S STOPPING US FROM BUILDING IT.
THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
SO EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS.
AND THESE ARE THE PLANS THAT REFLECT ALL OF THE AGENCY COMMENTS SINCE 2024.
SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR BOTH PROJECTS IS THAT IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE 15% CONCEPT PLANS FOR BOTH THE NRBB AND THE MAT PROJECT, WE WILL THEN START PREPARING THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECS FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR BOTH PROJECTS.
WE'LL SEND THAT ON TO TORRANCE FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
WE'LL ALSO NEED TO WORK WITH RB USD ON SOME FORM OF AGREEMENT FOR THE MAT PROJECT, WHERE IT'S PROPOSED ALONG LILIENTHAL, NORTH OF IVES. IT'S A CURRENT GRASS AREA THAT'S ACTUALLY SCHOOL PROPERTY.
WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE A TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO BUILD THE PROJECT ON THEIR FRONTAGE.
THEY HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE'LL POSSIBLY ALSO NEED SOME MOUS WITH EACH AGENCY THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE MAT PROJECT.
AND WE'VE ALSO APPLIED FOR THE FULL CONSTRUCTION FUNDING VIA METRO MEASURE M.
SO HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. R IS TO APPROVE BOTH PROJECTS, THE MAT PROJECT AND THE NRBB, PLUS MOBILITY HUB PROJECT CONCEPT PLANS TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE ON THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECS.
LAWNDALE AND L.A. COUNTY ALSO CO-SIGNING. AND THEN WE ALSO ARE BRINGING FORWARD A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CR ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE THOSE PLANS AND SPECS FOR THE MAT PROJECT. THERE WERE THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS INVOLVED THAT WAS CONTRACTED WITH METRO.
THEY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AND THEY PREPARED THE 15% DESIGN PLANS.
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WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO RETAIN THEM FOR BOTH THE MAT PROJECT AND THE NRBB PROJECT, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE ONE CIVIL AND TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR BOTH PROJECTS. THANK YOU. RYAN, IF I COULD, MAYOR, JUST ONE FINAL COUPLE OF FINAL WRAP UP COMMENTS.THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR US TO PROVIDE A PROGRESS REPORT, IF YOU WILL, ON THE DESIGN. I KNOW THE 15% LEVEL DOESN'T OFFER A LOT OF DETAIL ON LOST PARKING OR USE OF RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IF THE IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE DURING THE COURSE OF THE FINAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH, YOU KNOW, A 50%, 60 OR 75% PLAN SET SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE FINAL COURSE CORRECTIONS.
TO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION, AS. IT HAS BEEN THUS FAR, TYPICALLY THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECS WOULD, THOUGH THE COMMISSION WILL WORK WITH THE COMMISSION AS WE ADVANCE THE DRAWINGS. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS IF YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS BEFORE.
TYPICALLY, RIGHT WITH THE PROJECT, YOU APPROVE THE CONCEPT. WE GET THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS READY THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT IS WHEN WE'RE REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN SET AND AUTHORIZE FOR BIDDING. THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PARTNER AGENCIES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A PROGRESS REPORT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT STAGE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOUR LAST.
LOOK AT THIS DESIGN. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS INTO THE FUTURE, IS THERE ANY VALUE TO HAVING A LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL TO TORRANCE ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING FOR APPROVAL? YEAH.
WE HAVE. IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME OR SHOULD WE WAIT FOR THE 15% DESIGN OR WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED THE THE ELECTEDS IN TORRANCE AT ALL? THIS HAS PURELY BEEN A STAFF TO STAFF CONVERSATION.
NOT SURE IF A LETTER TO COUNCIL OR MAYBE JUST ONE ON ONE BETWEEN ADJACENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR INSTANCE, MIGHT BE A GOOD. YEAH, I THINK WE MAY WANT TO ENGAGE THE LOCAL DISTRICT TORRANCE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT REGARD.
I THINK WE WANT TO I THINK OUT OF FAIRNESS, WE WANT TO SHOW THE OPTIONS.
AND THE PARKING IMPACT. YEAH, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PERHAPS DESIGN AROUND.
THAT AT 15% OR. I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER DRAWING TO PREPARE, BUT WE CAN INVOLVE, IF YOU'D LIKE OUR AFFECTED NEIGHBOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND YOU, MAYOR, IF YOU'D LIKE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, SO WE CAN REACH OUT. YEAH. I THINK. WE'LL ENGAGE YOU AS WE GIVE THE, BUILD OUT FOR TORRANCE THEIR OPTION HERE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE THE LOSS OF PARKING. WE MAY JUST DESIGN AROUND IT AND HAVE IT BACK OUT. ONE DAY [INAUDIBLE] TO LOBBY THEM. WHAT JUST SEEMS BAD TO HAVE A BLACK HOLE IN THE MIDDLE.
YEAH, YEAH, THAT'LL BE OUR NEXT QUESTION. SOME TIMES THE CONVERSATION HELPS. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION SOMETIMES BRINGS A LITTLE MORE COLOR TO. YEAH. FIRST STEP OF THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN WILL BE TO DEVELOP THOSE ALTERNATIVES THAT SHOW NO PARKING LOSS.
SO CAN YOU ENGAGE US WHEN YOU GET FAR ENOUGH ALONG WHERE IT'S FINE.
YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH, SO. YOU NEED DIRECTION ON THAT OR NO? OKAY. IN THIS DIRECTION, I THINK THERE'S BUDGET AND SCOPE IN THE CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THAT EXHIBIT.
AND ONCE THAT IS READY, THEN WE'LL WE'LL COORDINATE WITH YOU TO TALK TO TORRANCE.
I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. I YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR CONNECTING AS FAR INLAND AS WE CAN, AND AND CONNECTIVITY IS GOOD. WE BREAK DOWN THE BARRIERS BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH REDONDO, AND YOU HAVE AN EASY, EASY AND SAFE ROUTE FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES TO GET DOWN TO THE BEACH FROM NORTH REDONDO.
SO THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND IT SHOULDN'T BE OVERLOOKED. I MEAN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT OUR NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKE PATH THAT WE'RE DOING WORK ON TODAY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. THE DOMINGUEZ PATH THAT YOU CAN GET A LONG BIKE RIDE OUT OF THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW PLEASED TO HAVE THIS PAID FOR THROUGH METRO FUNDS.
SO THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THE PRE WORK ON THIS I'M EXCITED BY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU STAFF.
CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE PLEASE. ON THE PORTION ABOUT MAT PROJECT ALIGNMENT ALONG LILIENTHAL. THAT'S RIGHT UP, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S THAT GRASS STRIP NEXT TO WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
CORRECT. AND ARE THERE CURRENTLY UTILITIES IN THAT STRIP? YES. SO WE ARE GOING TO ASK SCE TO CONSOLIDATE AND RELOCATE THOSE POLES.
REMOVE THE POLES AND PUT THEM WHERE? THEY HAVE VERTICAL STRUCTURES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET THAT RIGHT NOW ARE CARRYING JUST THE TELECOMMUNICATION LINES. SO WE'LL ASK THEM TO RELOCATE THEIR POWER LINES TO THOSE PARTS.
YOU WILL ASK. HAVE YOU ASKED? WE HAVE. EDISON WILL NEED A FORMAL ASK.
WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT FAR YET WITH THEM TO REALLY GIVE US A FORMAL ANSWER.
TYPICALLY WHEN A CITY, WHEN A UTILITY IS IN THE STREET AND THE CITY COMES THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT, UTILITY IS OBLIGED TO MOVE IT AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE.
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AND SO IT MAY TAKE SOME ARM TWISTING, BUT WE THINK THAT'S HOW THIS WILL GO.IT WILL BE ABLE TO PERSUADE EDISON THAT IT'S THEIR OBLIGATION TO MOVE THOSE FOR OUR PROJECT, TO MOVE THE UTILITY AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. AND THERE'S BEEN NO FORMAL REQUESTS, RIGHT? NO, WE WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG AND DESIGN FAR ENOUGH ALONG.
HAVE YOU INFORMALLY REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTERPARTS? HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PLANNERS, WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN HIGH ENOUGH IN THEIR HIERARCHY TO GET A SOLID ANSWER, AND ANSWER WE COULD RELY ON. THANK YOU. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY INDICATION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE SO INCLINED TO HELP OUT? WE, NO, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.
OKAY. AND THERE ARE SOME ARGUMENTS TO MAKE THAT THEY HAVE THIS OBLIGATION.
I MEAN, WE'VE MADE IT SUCCESSFULLY WITH OTHER PROJECTS.
I MEAN, TO ANDY'S POINT, THERE MAY BE SOME MASSAGING AND ARM TWISTING IN THAT CONVERSATION, AND THEY MAY DELAY. THEY MAY DELAY. AND. THEY MAY DELAY.
THEY MAY DELAY. SO WE'LL HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
SO I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO MANAGE IT. WE DO THINK WE'LL EVENTUALLY COMPEL AS AN EDISON TO DO IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND ENERGY. AND AS A PRUDENT PLANNER THAT YOU ARE, WHAT'S THE BACKUP? IF EDISON SAYS NO IN THE ARM TWISTING JUST RESULTS IN FEET DRAGGING.
WHAT, WHAT THEN, WHAT'S THE PLAN B? CUT THEIR WIRES.
THAT LEG. THAT LEG PROBABLY. CHAINSAW. YEAH. NO, WE HAVE TO STUDY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, BUT WE, EARLY, OUR FIRST INDICATIONS WERE THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SQUEEZE IN A FACILITY OF SOME KIND BETWEEN THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WALL. THAT'S THEIR BLOCK WALL THAT SEPARATES THE PARKING LOT FROM THE GRASSY SPACE AND THE POLE LINE.
IT'S NOT OUR PREFERENCE, BUT WE COULD PUT SOME KIND OF FACILITY IN THERE.
SO WE'LL. AS LONG AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS WILLING, WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING.
CERTAINLY, WE'LL SHOOT FOR THE BEST PROJECT WITH REMOVING THE EDISON POLES.
WE'RE WE STILL HAVE TO SORT OF PLAN FOR MULTIPLE CONCEPTS.
WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH DISTRICT OFFICIALS.
BUT THERE'S THERE'S MORE DESIGN WORK TO DO HERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. ON THAT, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE GOVERNMENT REP FROM SCE, THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS REP. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I THINK. WE'VE, NO, NOT SPECIFICALLY. I'D LIKE TO BROACH THAT TOPIC WITH HER.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I'D RATHER DO IT EARLIER THAN, YOU KNOW.
JUST SHOW WE'RE OUT OF GOODWILL WORKING WITH THEM EARLY ON THIS, SO.
YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. YEAH. THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE THE WAY THE ROUTE GOES ALONG LILIENTHAL AND RIPLEY WITH A TWO WAY LANE THAT IS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET AS BOTH OF THOSE TWO SCHOOLS BECAUSE BIG SAFETY IMPROVEMENT BY HAVING IT LIKE THAT.
I LIKE THAT BETTER THAN THE RIPLEY ROUTE AS WELL, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT PART OF IT.
SO HOW FINAL ARE THESE CHOICES OF SAYING THE LANES GOING TO GO HERE, HERE AND THERE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE SOUTH BAY BICYCLE COALITION AND OTHERS SAYING, WELL, WE THINK THIS MIGHT BE BETTER.
ARE WE AT THE 15% LEVEL, ARE WE STILL SAYING, WELL, IT COULD STILL CHANGE, OR ARE YOU REALLY SAYING THIS IS WHAT IT IS AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT TODAY? WE HAVE PUSHED HARD TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE FACILITIES OUT THERE, WHICH IS WHAT THE BIKE COALITION IS ARGUING FOR AS WELL. WE'VE RUN INTO CONSTRAINTS DUE TO PARKING ISSUES OR LOSS OF PARKING ISSUES.
I SAY DUE TO LAWNDALE WILLINGNESS IN SOME CASES, TOO.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS ON REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. SO.
CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE BIKE COALITION MAY PREFER ARE NOT REALLY APPROPRIATELY PLACED THERE.
SO WE'RE PUSHING REALLY HARD TO GET THE BEST PRODUCT WE CAN.
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IF ANY, VERY SOON HOPEFULLY. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO AVOID GETTING TO 60% DESIGN AND HAVING TO GO BACK.IT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU PROPOSED, BUT NOT. YEAH.
METRO'S GOAL HERE IS TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE DESIGN APPROACH HAS BEEN. AND IF IT'S LIMITED, IT'S LIMITED DUE TO SIGNIFICANT REAL FACTORS THAT WE JUST NEED TO EXPLORE FURTHER AS WE MAKE FINAL DECISIONS ABOUT THAT.
ALL RIGHT. I HAD A MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHEIKH FROM TORRANCE AND THAT GOES ALONG DISTRICT 1.
THAT'S HIS DISTRICT THERE. I'D BE HAPPY TO BE THE INTERFACE WITH TORRANCE.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING, START WITH TALKING TO THE TORRANCE CITY COUNCIL.
THE ELECTED THIS ABOUT THOSE ROUTES. YEAH. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR EACH OTHER? SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS HE ASKED, I'LL COME BACK AND AND BE HAPPY TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN FOR THE SCE RIGHT OF WAY THERE, ALONG LILIENTHAL.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AGENDIZE FOR THE SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE TO TALK WITH ON A FUTURE MEETING? WE'VE GIVEN THEM A BIT OF A HEADS UP ON THIS.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS. BRIAN'S IN DIRECT COMMUNICATION NOW WITH WITH ANNETTE AND HER TEAM.
SO I THINK WE'RE. IT'S CLEAR. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS.
IT'S JUST GETTING TO THAT POINT OF SPECIFICITY.
WHAT I WOULD AGREE THE SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT GIVING THE STUDENTS A SAFER PATH.
THAT GRASS IS UNUSED. IT'S DIFFICULT. THE SCHOOL HAS TO MAINTAIN IT.
I THINK IT'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S IT FOR ME. THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THIS.
THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS COMING FROM NORTH REDONDO GOING TO REDONDO UNION HAVE A SAFE PATH, SO.
IT MIGHT BE BETTER THAN TAKING THE BUS. STRAIGHT PROJECT ALL THE WAY AROUND. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, I CAN'T SEE IF YOU HAVE A HAND RAISED. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ASK OR ADD? SURE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO TO THE CITY MANAGER'S QUESTION ABOUT PROJECT DESIGN AS WE GET PROJECT DESIGN.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU WOULD SHARE IT BECAUSE AS RYAN SAID, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN THE CITY FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT OUR PROGRESS ON BIKE LANES. AND I CAN SAY FROM MY LAST DISTRICT FORUM COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE I HAD, AT MICHAEL'S, WHERE I HAD RYAN AND ANDY COME DOWN AND PRESENT THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE AT THAT COMMUNITY MEETING THAN THERE WERE AT ANY OTHER.
I JUST ACTUALLY RODE RIPLEY ON MY CARGO E-BIKE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
JUST ASSESSING THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AND WITH.
YEAH. IT WAS A POWER MODE ON THAT ONE. YEAH, I WAS AT I WAS AT LEVEL FIVE.
I DIDN'T HAVE A KID IN THE BACK OF MY CAR, IN THE BACK OF MY CARGO BIKE.
IF I HAD ONE KID OR TWO KIDS, I'D BE HAVING TO STAND UP TO BIKE.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE DESIGNED OUR BIKE LANES ON STEEP GRADES, WE'D BE ENCOURAGING KIDS TO GET MORE POWERFUL E-MOTORCYCLES WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, ENTRY LEVEL E-BIKES BIKING AROUND OUR CITY.
AND LASTLY THIS CITY, THIS ISSUE ABOUT CITY IS NOT AGREEING TO GO ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW PROGRESS ON MOBILITY. MICROMOBILITY SAFETY IS KIND OF A PERSISTENT ENDEMIC, ONE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
WE'RE MAKING SO MUCH PROGRESS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU A STORY.
WE ENTERED MANHATTAN BEACH, AND THE BIKE LANE DISAPPEARED.
THEN WE WALKED. WE. THEN WE BIKE DOWN. DOWN THE STRAND GOT DOWN TO THE PIER, REDONDO PIER AND THEN CAME BACK UP DIAMOND, AND WE GET UP TO DIAMOND AROUND THE CITY'S HEALTH DISTRICT AND THE BIKE LANE DISAPPEARS.
WE'RE DOING SO WELL IN REDONDO, BUT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTED BY OUR NEIGHBORS ON THIS FRONT.
WHAT CAN WE DO? THE ELECTEDS DO OR THE ACTIVISTS OUT THERE? SOUTH BAY FORWARD. SOUTH BAY BICYCLE COALITION.
OR AT LEAST ONE OF THESE THINGS DIDN'T REQUIRE FUNDING, JUST REQUIRED ACQUIESCENCE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP GET THESE OTHER CITIES TO GO ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW,
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THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN? MY SUGGESTION AND, AND WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, IS MUCH ONE ON ONE COMMUNICATION AS YOU CAN HAVE WITH YOUR PEERS AT THE OTHER CITIES TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THEIR STAFFS TO CONSIDER THIS THE BETTER.YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE BIKE PATH NEAR THE HEALTH DISTRICT.
IT'S A RUNNING JOKE IN MY HOUSEHOLD, HAVING, LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE CITY BOUNDARY BETWEEN TORRANCE AND REDONDO BEACH, WHEN YOU TRY TO BIKE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO DIAMOND, WHERE YOU ENTER REDONDO AND LEAVE TORRANCE, IT LITERALLY IS A RUNNING JOKE OF MY KIDS. BE PROUD CITY LEADERSHIP, LOOK BACK.
I DO THINK THERE ARE TORRANCE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SCRATCHING THEIR HEAD A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT SENTIMENT HASN'T BUBBLED UP TO THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOR THEIR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WHO WE HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH.
SO I THINK ENCOURAGING AND SUPPORTING THE VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS IN CERTAIN AREAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOESN'T RESULT IN THE CANNIBALIZATION OF VEHICLE LANES AND OTHER THINGS IN PARKING, WHICH TENDS TO BE TORRANCE IS CONCERNED.
THERE'S A LITTLE MORE CALL IT HISTORIC ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY CURRENTLY.
SO I THINK IF YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR PEERS IN NEIGHBORING CITIES AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THESE CONCEPTS, THE BETTER FOR US. OKAY. BECAUSE I CAN PROMISE YOU IT WASN'T FOR LACK OF TRYING ON OUR PART.
YEAH, I'M SURE TOM COULD ATTEST TO THAT TONIGHT IF NEEDED.
YEAH. AND I THINK FOR FOR US WITH THE COUPLE BRIEFING SLIDES.
YEAH. THAT WE CAN TALK TO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PARKING IF THAT'S A PERSISTENT ASK OVER THERE.
IF WE GET I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WHEN WE ARE THERE.
SURE. SO THAT WE'LL PROVIDE THAT UPDATED EXHIBITS.
AND I THINK FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE STUDENTS THAT ARE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE BIKING UP AND DOWN, YOU KNOW, FROM NORTH TO SOUTH REDONDO, THAT DOES REDUCE CAR TRIPS ON TORRANCE STREETS, TOO, LIKE ANZA. YEAH. YEAH. I WILL SAY, OUT OF FAIRNESS TO TORRANCE PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
I THINK THAT WAS SHORTSIGHTED ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT LOCATION. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE FEELING AT THE TIME AT LEAST, AT LEAST AS THEY COMMUNICATED TO US SOME PRESSURE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT TO ULTIMATELY SUPPORT THAT CONNECTION THERE.
I SUSPECT THEY REGRET IT. ALONG REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD NEAR ALONDRA PARK.
THAT PROJECT WAS CONFLATED WITH THE HEALTH DISTRICT CAMPUS WIDE DISCUSSION AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE VICTIM OF OF THE WAY THAT CONVERSATION WENT.
YEAH. WHICH CITY IS NEXT TO ALONDRA PARK? NEXT TO A NORTH SIDE IS UNINCORPORATED LA COUNTY.
YEAH. AND THEN LAWNDALE IS TO THE WEST OF THAT, AND THEN THE SOUTH SIDE IS TORRANCE.
OKAY, AND IS THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE IT HAD BEEN PROPOSED TO PUT THAT BIKE LANE? THE PROPOSED BIKE LANE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET IN THE COUNTY AND LAWNDALE SIDE, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING A SIMPLE CLASS TWO BIKE LANE ON THE MOSTLY TORRANCE SIDE OF THE CITY.
EXACT CITY BOUNDARY ISN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD.
IT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN THE PARKING LANE. PUT UP THE MAP.
I THINK THE TORRANCE IS. I UNDERSTAND TORRANCE IS COMPLETE PREDOMINATELY FOR THIS PROJECT IS THE 190TH STREET CONNECTION, WHICH IS. THERE'S TWO PLACES THE, IF YOU GO TO THE VERY TOP RIGHT SECTION, THAT GOLD COLOR IS WHERE WE PROPOSE A TWO WAY BIKE TRACK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD. THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY.
NO OBJECTIONS THERE WHEN, THAT'S, WHEN YOU GET TO AINSWORTH AND HEAD TO THE WEST.
ALL WE CAN PROPOSE CURRENTLY IS A TWO WAY BIKE LANE.
ONE WAY. I'M SORRY. ONE WAY BIKE LANE AND THEN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET.
I THINK IT'S A ONE WAY. BIKE LANE AS WELL. BUFFER, IS IT A BUFFER? BUFFER? YEAH. BUFFER TO BIKE LANE. LOTS OF DRIVEWAYS THERE. SO IT MAKES DOING ANYTHING ANY KIND OF VERTICAL INTERRUPTION DIFFICULT THERE.
PARK ON THE NORTH. PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU KNOW.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE UNDER PARK A DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER LOCATION IS AT THE VERY WEST END OF OUR PROJECT ON 190TH STREET.
THAT SECTION BETWEEN ANZA AND BERYL OR BLOSSOM, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIDE OF THE STREET YOU'RE ON.
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YEAH. THANKS. LOTS OF DRIVEWAYS. THERE ARE PORTIONS THERE THAT ARE PARKING RESTRICTED ALREADY WHERE IT WOULD BE, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE PLENTY OF SPACE TO DO SOMETHING.WEST OF, OR EAST OF MEYER. MAYBE. MAYBE A HALF A BLOCK PAST MEYER.
IT'S RESTRICTED. NO PARKING ON THE TORRANCE SIDE.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PLACE THERE. IT'S MOSTLY THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO RANGE.
AND THAT AREA WHERE THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH THE LOSS OF PARKING.
YEAH. OKAY, I SUPPOSE THIS PROMPTS A QUESTION IF I MAY RESUME THERE.
SURE. ON ON THE PORTION OF RIPLEY WHERE THE BIKE LANE IS GOING TO PROCEED.
IS THAT GOING TO BE SLURRIED OR REPAVED COMPLETELY? SO THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE IS A PAVEMENT REHAB FOR THE BIKE LANE PORTION OF THAT STREET.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS IN OUR NORMAL SLURRY AND REHAB PROGRAM TO, SO THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES THROUGH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPLEMENT AND JUST PAVE ONCE.
I KNOW SECTIONS OF RIPLEY IN THE LILIENTHAL ARE DUE FOR REHAB OR SLURRY.
IT'S IT'S IT SOME PARTS OF IT ARE DEFINITELY RIDEABLE.
WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT STRAIN THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED THERE. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KIND OF REHAB IT, EVEN THAT SECTION, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME PIECEMEAL REHAB WORK.
WHEN THIS IS DONE SO THAT IT KIND OF ALL LOOKS MARIE KONDO ALL LOOKS CLEAN AT ONCE.
AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR PROGRESS ON BIKE LANES AND REDONDO BEACH AND THANK THE COG BECAUSE THEY'VE SUPPORTED EVERY ONE OF OUR GRANT REQUESTS AS WELL AS L.A. COUNTY METRO. THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. HEY. THANK YOU. SO CAN YOU PUT UP THE SLIDE WITH THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YEAH. RIGHT THERE. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION AT THIS POINT FOR THOSE THINGS? YES. THREE ITEMS. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK AT 15% OR.
NO, NO, WE'RE AT 15%. SO EFFECTIVELY, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLANS AS THEY SIT TODAY, IF YOU'D LIKE, AS PART OF THE MOTION TO INCLUDE A PROGRESS REPORT OR UPDATE, YOU KNOW, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, 40%, 50%. I'LL LEAN THE STAFF ON THAT PART OF THE MOTION, I THINK.
SO I THINK THIS IS BIG ENOUGH TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO PUSH FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING INTERACTIONS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES IN OTHER CITIES. I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ITEMS NEED TO BE APPROVED AS WELL.
OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. YES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE.
AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID ABOUT APPROVING THE MAT PROJECT AND OUR NRBA, NRBB MOBILITY HUB PROJECT CONCEPT PLANS, AS HE STATED. APPROVE METRO FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE MAT PROJECT COST REIMBURSEMENT AND APPROVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CR ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE PLAN SPECS FOR THE MAT PROJECT.
AND REQUEST A COMEBACK AT 15%. AS PART OF THE FIRST PART, YEAH.
REQUEST, COME BACK AT 40%. WAS IT? JUST AN APPROPRIATE PRICE POINT? MAYBE. YEAH. SECOND. OKAY. OKAY, WE GOT A MOTION A SECOND.
A TEAM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.
I DO HAVE TWO CARDS STARTING WITH LIAM WALSH AND THEN ROD KOONTZ.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LIGHT AND COUNCIL.
I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT OUR LETTER FOR RECORD TO RECEIVE AND FILE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
FILE. SECOND. ALL FOR. I GOT ONE AT A TIME. AYE.
AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND AS YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS THROUGHOUT LAWNDALE AND TORRANCE AS WELL.
I CAN DEFINITELY ECHO THE COMMENTS ABOUT WE WANT TO AVOID BLACK HOLES, AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO REALIZE YOU'RE GOING INTO ANOTHER CITY WHEN YOU'RE YOU'RE BIKING ALONG. BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TELL WHEN I GET INTO REDONDO, WHICH IS NICE.
A NUMBER OF OUR ADVOCATES HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE COUNCIL AND STAFF IN LAWNDALE AND TORRANCE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ASKING FOR THESE SAME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES, AS YOU NOTED, SPECIFICALLY WITH TORRANCE.
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AS STAFF MENTIONED, THERE IS PRETTY OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR PROTECTED BICYCLE LANES THROUGHOUT THE LENGTH OF THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING IN TORRANCE, AND THE OBJECTIONS THAT WE SEE ARE SEEM TO BE ORIGINATING MOSTLY AT A STAFF LEVEL IN THOSE OTHER CITIES.AND WE'RE CONCERNED THAT IT MAY POTENTIALLY DIE OR BE SEVERELY DIMINISHED DUE TO SOLELY STAFF LEVEL REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS NOT LOSING A SINGLE PARKING SPOT. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF REQUIREMENTS THAT GO AGAINST THE CITY'S OWN GENERAL PLAN, INDICATING THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BIKE LANES ALONG THESE ROADS.
THE COUNTY BIKE PLANS THAT ALSO SAY BIKE LANES ON THIS ROAD, AND THE SOUTH BAY BICYCLE MASTER PLAN.
WELL, YEAH, I WON'T GET TOO INTO IT. BUT GENERALLY THE GOAL, AS THE METRO PROJECT STATES, IS TO CREATE A LOW STRESS ENVIRONMENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SPANNING ALL JURISDICTIONS.
AND AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WE REALLY NEED LIKE TO ENSURE WE HAVE A COHESIVE, PROTECTED BIKE LANE ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT, INCLUDING IN TORRANCE AND LAWNDALE. SO YEAH, IN GENERAL JUST REALLY I HOPE YOU APPROVE THESE ITEMS. AND ALSO, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO WORK WITH THE CITY ELECTEDS ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO JUST TRY AND SEE WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE COMING FROM.
AND NOTE THAT THIS IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING MOBILITY THROUGHOUT OUR REGION.
AND WE CAN'T JUST SAY, WELL, ONLY IF THERE'S NO PARKING REMOVED.
THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY, ROD KOONTZ, IF I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT.
SORRY. I THINK YOU GOT IT RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
IT NEEDS A VOWEL. ALL RIGHT. GREAT TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I WANT TO THANK THE REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL FOR PICKING THIS UP AND MOVING IT FORWARD. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 16 YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE UPSHOT FROM BIKE MOBILITY IS VERY POSITIVE FOR HOUSING, HEALTH, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE ECONOMICS OF IT WHERE YOU'RE SEEING CARS TODAY AT, YOU KNOW, $1,000 A MONTH. THINK OF YOUR EL CAMINO STUDENTS WHO WOULD STRUGGLE WITH THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS.
SO THIS WILL MAKE A GREAT DIFFERENCE. AND REALLY THE DIFFERENCE IS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR LIGHT, WHERE PEOPLE WANT CONSECUTIVE LANES. THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE REAFFIRMING AND COMFORTING AND SAFER TO RIDE IN CONTINUOUS BIKE LANES.
AND THIS WILL HELP ACCOMPLISH THAT. AND THEN THE UP COMEUPPANCE IS THAT THE BUSINESSES BENEFIT, BECAUSE IN MANHATTAN BEACH, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE ALLOWING TRADE OFFS OF PARKING SPACES FOR BIKES AND FINDING THAT PEOPLE SPEND MORE.
SO IT'S POSITIVE FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT. AND I JUST WANT TO TALK AT A HIGH LEVEL HERE.
REALLY A NETWORK OF HIGH QUALITY BIKE LANES THROUGHOUT OUR CITIES WILL ENABLE MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THE SOUTH BAY TO USE BICYCLES FOR TRANSPORTATION, HAVE MONEY, HEALTH AND HOUSING AS A ANCILLARY BENEFIT EASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, THE TRAFFIC CALMING ADVANTAGES ARE WINDFALLS ALL OVER AND THEN SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES BY HAVING MORE DISCRETIONARY MONEY FROM NOT HAVING TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY TO BUY TWO CARS WHEN THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUY ONE AND A GOLF CART. SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE WAY TO TRANSITION TO A BETTER ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP WHEN YOU CONSIDER ACCORDING TO THE COG, THAT'S 70% OF THE RESIDENTS LIVE WITHIN THREE MILES OF WORK AND HOME.
SO THANK YOU. THE REDONDO BEACH THE 15% DESIGN CONSTRAINTS ALLOW FOR IMPROVEMENT ALONG THE WAY. AND ALL OF THIS JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. NICE RAIN SPOONER SHIRT TOO.
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ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? HI THERE. MY NAME IS ANDREW BLAKENEY AND I'M A RESIDENT OF LAWNDALE.FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK THIS BODY.
I VERY COMMONLY FIND MYSELF COMING OUT THIS WAY TO SPEND MY MONEY, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE FOR MY CITY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT OUT.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY VITAL STEP FOR CONNECTING A BUNCH OF THESE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER AND SHOWING THEM HOW TO, HOW TO DO THESE SORTS OF PROJECTS. I FOR ME PERSONALLY, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME.
I CURRENTLY HAVE A THREE WEEK OLD NEWBORN DAUGHTER AND WHEN I LOOK AT HER, I HOPE THAT SHE CAN TAKE ROUTES LIKE THIS TO GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY.
TO GO WITH US ON A SUNDAY MORNING BIKE RIDE, TO GET TO CHURCH, TO GO TO MASS.
SO THIS WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT. AND I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WOULD URGE THESE OTHER CITIES TO GO ALONG AND TO CREATE THESE MORE IMPROVED, SAFER BIKE ROUTES. SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CALL OUT WHERE WHERE THIS BIKE ROUTE IS IN MY CITY.
IN LAWNDALE THERE. THIS ACTUALLY GOES OVER THE ON AND OFF RAMPS FOR THE 405.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO PUSH MY CITY TO INSTALL A BETTER PROTECTED BIKE ROUTE, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THAT AREA AT THE VERY LEAST, IF NOT THROUGH THE ENTIRE AREA, TELLING THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DON'T NEED SO MUCH PARKING WE CAN DO, WE CAN WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON THESE MANY DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK.
I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT. I CAN MEET WITH YOU, MEET WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I THINK WHEN THEY HEAR SOMETHING FROM YOU GUYS TO SAY, LOOK, WE TOOK THE STEPS TO DO THIS, AND IT HAS PAID DIVIDENDS FOR US.
IT WOULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THEM TO HEAR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST IMPORTANT FOR, AS YOU GUYS HAVE STATED, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STUDENT, THAT ARE STUDENTS THAT WILL GROW UP IN THESE COMMUNITIES AND THEN GO TO EL CAMINO COLLEGE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE ROOTS, KNOW THOSE ROOTS AS THEY GROW UP AND BE ABLE TO FIND THAT AND SAY, HEY, I CAN DO THIS VERY EFFICIENTLY.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH RYAN AND IT WAS COMPLETE, COMPLETELY, AMAZINGLY CORDIAL, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SAY THAT ABOUT WHEN I'VE TALKED WITH MY PUBLIC WORKS FOR TALKING ABOUT BIKE LANES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR DAUGHTER. YES. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? YES. WE HAVE BRIANNA EGAN.
GO AHEAD. BRIANNA. HELLO. HI. CITY COUNCIL. CALLING IN.
I REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROJECT, AND SO BY NATURE, IT INVOLVES A COOPERATION OF A LOT OF AGENCIES.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THE RESULTS OF BUILDING SAFER, PROTECTED BIKE LANES FOR OUR STUDENTS AND JUST FOR EVERYONE TO FEEL SAFER GETTING AROUND TOWN BY BIKE. I THINK IT'S PART OF OUR CULTURE NOW.
WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THE DESIGN FOR THE REDONDO BEACH PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
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BUT THEN AS, AS YOU ALL HAVE POINTED OUT TORRANCE LAWNDALE AND L.A.COUNTY PORTIONS COULD BE IMPROVED FOR THEIR SAFETY.
AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED ARE ALL TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE.
THEY'VE BEEN DONE BEFORE, PARTICULARLY WITH A LOT OF THE REDONDO BEACH RECENT BIKE LANES, SUCH AS NARROWING CAR LANES AND THEN CREATING WIDE BUFFERED BIKE LANES. AND SO THESE ARE ALL TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.
I THINK WE JUST REALLY NEED THE POLITICAL SUPPORT FROM THOSE CITY COUNCILS.
AND AS AS OTHERS HAVE SHARED WE'VE SEEN THE PUSHBACK PRIMARILY AT THE STAFF LEVEL, PARTICULARLY IN TORRANCE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE COUNCIL IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS PROJECT AND NEEDS TO BE BRIEFED.
AND I THINK OUR PLAN AS ADVOCATES AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN COORDINATION WITH YOU ALL, IS TO JUST ADDRESS THE SITUATION AT MULTIPLE LEVELS. SO WE'VE MET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL, MEETING WITH THEM, CREATING ANY OFFICIAL BRIEFS OR MEMOS THAT YOU CAN SHARE, LETTERS THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE WRITING OP EDS, DOING THINGS TO REALLY SHED LIGHT ON ON THESE ISSUES WITH TORRANCE. AND SO, YEAH, OVERALL, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE, SAFEST POSSIBLE PROJECT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR BOARDS.
OKAY. SO I'LL CALL THE VOTE IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
AYE. AYE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.
AYE. OKAY. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM FOLKS FROM OUT OF TOWN ABOUT HOW GREAT YOU GUYS ARE, SO WE ALREADY KNOW IT. THANK YOU. JUST DON'T STEAL HIM.
RIGHT. OKAY. SO LET'S SEE. JUMPING TO ITEM N.2 THIS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
RELATED TO THE SMOKE SHOPS ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR.
BUT MARC WILL BE FIRING UP HIS PRESENTATION HERE. NO DOGS, THOUGH.
NO DOGS HAVE GONE HOME. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? JOKES. I EXPRESSLY TOLD HIM NOT TO DO ANY JOKES RIGHT NOW.
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SMOKE SHOT BAD JOKES.
YEAH, JUST WALKING ON LINE. OKAY. EVERYBODY, MIND YOUR P'S AND Q'S.
SO I FIRST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE OUTLINE OF THE PRESENTATION I'LL BE PROVIDING TONIGHT.
FIRST, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A BACKGROUND ON THE ORDINANCE THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS WHEN YOU LAST REVIEWED THIS IN APRIL, THEN AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THE STANDARDS OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE PERMITTING CONCENTRATION AND LOCATION REQUIREMENTS AND ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO COVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.
SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE LAST MONTH.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE ON THE CONCENTRATION LOCATION RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ORDINANCE AND THEN DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ON THE TOBACCO RETAIL PERMIT LICENSE PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY PART OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE THAT WE REQUIRE OF TOBACCO BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.
CAPTAIN. SORRY. OKAY. I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT.
SO IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED THAT TOBACCO IS HARMFUL TO HEALTH.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE RECITALS OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, AS PART OF THE PURPOSE FOR THIS ORDINANCE. THERE'S ALSO BEEN A TRACK RECORD OF COMPLIANCE ISSUES WITH SMOKE SHOPS WITHIN REDONDO BEACH AND OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND THAT'S WELL DOCUMENTED. AND IT'S TYPICALLY IN RELATION TO THE SALE OF ILLEGAL PRODUCTS AT THESE BUSINESSES.
16 IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, SEVEN OF WHICH OF WHICH HAVE OPENED UP SINCE 2019.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST REVIEWED THIS DRAFT DRAFT ORDINANCE IN APRIL.
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YOU PROVIDED INPUT ON IT. YOU ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO PREPARE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PLACE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON ANY NEW SMOKE SHOPS TO BE IN EFFECT WHILE STAFF WORKS ON THIS PERMANENT ORDINANCE.THAT WAS EXTENDED, AND IT'S IN EFFECT THROUGH JUNE 2026.
ONE IS THAT WE ALLOW A MAXIMUM. WE PLACE A CAP ON THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED AT FIVE CITY WIDE.
AND THEN OVER TIME, THAT NUMBER WOULD GET REDUCED DOWN TO THE FIVE.
THROUGH ATTRITION. SO THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE.
ALSO, THE COUNCIL IN THE PRIOR VERSION, WE HAD A STANDARD THAT LIMITED IT TO ONE PER DISTRICT OR TWO PER DISTRICT, I BELIEVE IT WAS. THE COUNCIL SEEMED TO BE UNINTERESTED IN SETTING A CAP BASED ON THE DISTRICT, AT LEAST BASED ON THAT LAST MEETING. HOWEVER, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AGAIN TONIGHT, AND IF THERE'S AN INTEREST, WE CAN REINSERT IT. THE COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO INCLUDE A THREE YEAR EXPIRATION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SMOKE SHOPS, SO THEY WOULD OBTAIN THEIR CUP, AND THEN WITHIN THREE YEARS THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENEW IT.
ALSO, THE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT FOR DESIGN REVIEW AND UPDATED SIGNAGE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED AND ALSO ENSURED THE E-CIGARETTES ARE ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE DEFINITIONS SECTION.
SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF SMOKE SHOP OR TOBACCO STORE IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE A DEFINITION FOR THAT.
IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SMOKE SHOPS, WHICH GIVES THE CITY MORE DISCRETION AND SAY IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS PLACE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE EXISTING BUSINESSES TO OBTAIN A CUP WITHIN FIVE YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THAT INITIAL CAP OF TEN, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING IT DOWN TO FIVE OVER TIME AS THE EXISTING LEGAL NONCONFORMING ONES CLOSED SHOP OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
IS THAT, IS THERE SOMETHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. AND I'M JOINED BY OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
CHERYL PARK HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS. AND I KNOW THERE'S.
WELL, I'LL DEFER TO CHERYL IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT THERE I THINK THE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE IS THAT WE GIVE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESSES TO RECOUP THEIR INVESTMENTS.
AND IT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC IF WE WERE TO BAN THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS OUTRIGHT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE COULD REDUCE THE CAP FROM 10 TO 5.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CONCUR WITH THAT. WE'RE GIVING THEM FIVE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE DAY WE APPROVE IT. THEY'RE DOWN TO FIVE.
IT'S, SAY, OF FIVE YEARS. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, MAYOR.
THERE'S NO HARD AND FAST RULE REGARDING PHASING OUT BUSINESSES.
IT'S A QUESTION OF DUE PROCESS. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE.
SO YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE CASE LAW PROVIDES THAT YOU NEED TO GIVE BUSINESS OWNERS A SUFFICIENT TIME TO RECOUP THEIR INVESTMENT. AND CERTAIN CASES HAVE HELD THAT, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS IS TOO SHORT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'VE INVESTED IN THE BUSINESS.
AND WE THINK FIVE YEARS IS A SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO RECOUP ANY INVESTMENT.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S LOW RISK? FIVE YEARS. BASED ON ON THE CASE LAW THAT I'VE UNCOVERED THERE'S ONE CASE THAT SAYS 90 DAYS IS TOO SHORT. AND I BELIEVE THE OUTSIDE WAS SOMETHING LIKE THREE YEARS.
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WE COULD GO 91 DAYS. JUST KIDDING. JUST KIDDING.THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. GO AHEAD. YES.
ONE IS THAT BE 600FT FROM ANY SCHOOL, DAYCARE OR YOUTH CENTER.
THAT'S ONE OF THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. ANOTHER IS THAT THE SMOKE SHOPS NEED TO BE LOCATED.
NO LESS THAN 1000FT FROM EACH OTHER FOR ANY FUTURE PERMITS THAT WE PROCESS.
AND THEN ALSO NO SHOPS LOCATED WITHIN 150FT OF DALE PAGE PARK.
AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WAS MODELED AFTER THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE.
IT HAS IT WAS PRETTY MUCH COPY AND PASTE FOR A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE.
AND THERE IS SOME ROOM TO BE FLEXIBLE. THERE MAY BE A NEED TO BE.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
IF THIS WAS AN INFRACTION THAT IT IDENTIFIES, EXPRESSLY IDENTIFIES THAT THE BUSINESS COULD NOT SELL ANY ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES OR ANYTHING PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW.
THESE REQUIREMENTS OR THESE STANDARDS OR TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CODE AND CAN APPLY TO OTHER SITUATIONS, HOWEVER I THINK IT WILL HELP BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO HAVE IT ALSO BE IN THE IN THIS ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO SMOKE SHOPS, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES WOULD BE.
THEY DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MODIFICATIONS.
ONE IS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED LIMITING THE HOURS FROM 10 A.M.
TO 9 P.M.. THE CURRENT DRAFT WOULD ALLOW IT FROM WELL IT WOULD BE OPEN FROM 8 A.M.
TO 9 P.M.. THE COMMISSION'S CONCERN WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE THE SHOPS TO BE OPEN PRIOR TO SCHOOL HOURS, WHERE STUDENTS OR CHILDREN COULD POTENTIALLY PURCHASE THE TOBACCO PRODUCTS ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL.
THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE SMOKE SHOPS BE LOCATED 150FT FROM ALL PARKS, NOT JUST DALE PAGE PARK AND FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL USES. AND THAT'S A BIT PROBLEMATIC, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER.
SO THE ORDINANCE ALL THE REGULATIONS WITHIN IT APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO SMOKE SHOPS.
AS DRAFTED, IT'S ALLOWED AT 2% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA, OR 200FT², WHICHEVER IS LESS.
PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
AND IT WAS BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETING.
IF IT'S CLEAR THAT THE USE WOULD BE ANCILLARY.
AND THE FACT IS, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROVISION I DON'T ENVISION STAFF GOING OUT TO STORES AND LIKELY MEASURING PER SQUARE INCH OR SQUARE FOOT OF DISPLAY, BUT IT IS ANOTHER TOOL TO ADDRESS SITUATIONS WHERE A BUSINESS IS TRYING TO OPEN UP.
AND MAYBE THEY'RE THEY'RE POSING AS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUSINESS, LIKE A GIFT SHOP.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT STANDARD IN THERE.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YES, YES.
IF IT'S NOT AN ANCILLARY SALE, THEN THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE,
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RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND HAVE YOU GONE OUT AND DETERMINED WHETHER ANY OF OUR EXISTING SUPERMARKETS AND GROCERY STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES WOULD INADVERTENTLY BE SWEPT UP INTO THIS WHOLE SMOKE SHOP THING, WHICH IS NOT THE INTENTION OF THIS EXERCISE.WE'RE FOCUSED ON SMOKE SHOPS. SO THAT'S WHY I ASK YOU THAT QUESTION.
SO THAT STANDARD WAS BASED ON A AN ORDINANCE ANOTHER CITY ADOPTED AND BASED ON SOME RESEARCH THAT THEY HAD DONE, THAT THAT WOULD BE TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IN THOSE TYPES OF STORES.
THAT SAID, WE COULD. I THINK WITH THE PROVISION ALLOWING FOR DISCRETION ON THE PART OF STAFF TO ALLOW SOME TOLERANCE TO THAT DISPLAY AREA. YEAH, I THINK IT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE OF OF POTENTIALLY CAPTURING THOSE EXISTING STORES.
ARE WE INADVERTENTLY SWEEPING UP INTO THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE? THOSE. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, CAN THAT BE TABLED FOR NOW? SO WE DON'T KIND OF CLOUD WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE SMOKE SHOP SPECIFICALLY.
AND THEN MAYBE AFTER YOU COMPLETE THAT REVIEW, GIVE COUNCIL A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, IS THIS EVEN PART OF WHAT A SMOKE SHOP IS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A GROCERY STORE OR SUPERMARKET THAT USES NO MORE THAN 2% OF ITS GROSS FLOOR AREA OR 200FT², WHICHEVER IS LESS FOR THE DISPLAY, SALE, DISTRIBUTION, DELIVERY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT CAPTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF CVS STILL SELLS CIGARETTES AND WHAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW. YEAH, I THINK THE, SO IN TERMS OF QUANTIFYING THE DISPLAY AREA, I THINK WE COULD TAKE THAT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AND HAVE SOME OTHER LANGUAGE THAT JUST MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IF IT'S AN ANCILLARY USE AND THOSE TYPES OF RETAIL STORES DID NOT FALL INTO THIS ORDINANCE. AND SO THAT IS AN OPTION IF THE COUNCIL IS CONCERNED WITH PUTTING A LIMIT ON THE DISPLAY AREA THAT MAY PUT EXISTING BUSINESSES OUT.
AND I THINK YOU CANDIDLY NAILED IT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO CAPTURE THAT WITHOUT SWEEPING IN INADVERTENTLY OTHER BUSINESS.
SO MY ONLY QUESTION AND REQUEST AND ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO WEIGH IN.
MAYBE TAKE THAT OUT FOR NOW. COME BACK IF NEEDED.
REFINE IT. FIND SOME OTHER METRIC BY WHICH WE CAN SAY THE PRIMARY PRODUCT OF THIS AND THIS BUSINESS IS TOBACCO AND NICOTINE. SO THAT'S YEAH. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO DEFINITELY CONSIDER, AND I THINK ALSO FACTORING IN THAT IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING TO ENFORCE THOSE, TO MEASURE THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND DISPLAY AREAS, THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT.
AND WE'VE JUST SAID WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE COULDN'T WE WERE CHALLENGED ON.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE CITY MANAGER'S HERE. ANY THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THIS? YEAH. I DON'T THINK OUR I THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD.
AND I THINK THAT IF THERE'S ANY CLARITY THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE DEFINITIONS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, THEN WE SHOULD MAKE THOSE CHANGES AS SOON AS WE CAN.
YEAH. OKAY. I'LL TELL YOU, I'M CONCERNED IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING OBJECTIVE AND DEFINITIVE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SKIRT AROUND THE EDGES TO WHERE WE CAN'T LEGALLY ARGUE THAT IT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ESSENTIALLY AS MUCH AS I MEAN, IT COULD GO TO 49.9% OF THEIR SHOP AND DO SMOKE, SMOKE SHOP AND THE REST CAN BE. CHIPS AND DRINKS.
BUT BY HAVING 2%, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A 4 OR 500 SQUARE FOOT GAS STATION THAT SELLS, YOU KNOW, A NORMAL AMOUNT OF CIGARETTES AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS, SUDDENLY WITH THIS 2% RULE, THERE'S NOW A SMOKE SHOP.
AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT TO MAKE EVERY GAS STATION, EVERY CONVENIENCE STORE, A SMOKE SHOP.
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WE'RE GOING AFTER THE THE 17 OR 16. AND I THINK WE NEED AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD.WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE PRIMARY PRODUCT IS TOBACCO AND NICOTINE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I THINK AS A COUNCIL.
SO THE 2% AND 200FT, I MEAN. YEAH. I THINK THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE I PERSONALLY LIKE THE 2%. I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE IT FROM THOSE GROCERIES, IF THAT'S WHAT THE GROCERY STORES AND THE CVS AND MAYBE THE THE CORNER GAS STATIONS ARE SELLING, BUT MAYBE THEY NEED TO AMEND IT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TIGHTENING UP THEIR THEIR SPACE.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I THINK LEAVING THE SPACE FOR YOU KNOW, I FOUND A LIST FROM 2019 THAT HAD 44 TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSES IN REDONDO BEACH.
SO, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE HAVE 16 QUOTE UNQUOTE SMOKE SHOPS, BUT WE HAVE MORE THAN 44 PLACES IN REDONDO SELLING TOBACCO. AND THAT THAT'S WHERE I DO WANT TO TIGHTEN THIS UP.
SO I DON'T I DON'T JUST WANT TO TARGET THE 16 SMOKE SHOPS.
I WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PLACES THAT YOU CAN BUY TOBACCO IN THE CITY.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M TARGETING THE GROCERY STORES.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT EXCEPTION FOR THOSE TYPES OF STORES, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S NOT YOUTH FOCUSED. IT'S THE CVS. IT'S THE GROCERY STORES.
BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN REDONDO BEACH. AND THIS IS THE INTENT.
MY INTENT WITH THIS IS TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM.
IF THE COUNCIL IS SO INCLINED TO DO THIS MORE GLOBAL TOBACCO LOOK AT RATHER THAN KIND OF THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN IT SEEMS INCONSISTENT WITH THE SMOKE SHOP, AT LEAST AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S. AN ANIMAL LIKE. WELL, YEAH, I THINK THEY. YOU HAVE TOO MANY CIGARETTES AND WE MAY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO. GO AHEAD, I INTERRUPTED, YOU.
NO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT AND WE CAN DO, WE CAN TACKLE EITHER AND, AND OR BOTH.
SMOKE SHOPS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AS I THINK AS WE'VE DEFINED THEM NOW IN THE DRAFT.
IT'S A VERY CLEAR ENTITY IN MY VIEW. RIGHT. IT'S THE 16 WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
WHAT I AND I THINK WE'RE ON A PATH TO TRY TO REGULATE THIS.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. I MEAN, THAT IS THAT IS GOING TO BE.
AND WE MAY CREATE ONE WITH THE ORDINANCE. NOW, WE MAY CREATE A SIDE ISSUE.
POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY. UNINTENDED. POTENTIALLY.
WE COULD SEE STORES LEAN TOWARDS THE, YOU KNOW, THE ANCILLARY DEFINITION AND TRY TO PUSH THAT ENVELOPE, I COULD SEE THAT. WHEN I SEE TOBACCO SOLD AT A GROCERY STORE, THAT TO ME FEELS VERY, VERY DISTINCT FROM ALL OF THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS. SO IF THAT'S THE STANDARD WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT RELATIVELY EASILY.
I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT.
ARE WE TRYING TO LIMIT THE GAS STATION SALE OF TOBACCO? ARE WE TRYING TO LIMIT THE, I'M, THE LIQUOR STORE SALE OF TOBACCO? YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, IF THOSE ARE THE LOCATIONS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOME ASSESSMENT WORK.
WE COULD IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS. WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE STORES.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE FULLY PREPARED TO DO THAT NOW WITH THE SIX, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE A BIT OF A FOLLOW ON PROCESS.
BUT IT'S A MATTER OF COUNCIL PRIORITY AND HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY WE WANT TO SPEND ON THIS EFFORT.
SO THEN PART OF THIS ORDINANCE IS DESCRIBING THE ANCILLARY USE AS IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
RIGHT. IT'S MAKING SURE WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN THERE.
I FEEL LIKE WE JUST CREATE, YOU KNOW THE STORES THAT ARE JUST MAKING, LIKE YOU SAID, 49% OF THEIR STORE IS TOBACCO, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SELL CHIPS AND SODAS AND OTHER THINGS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SMOKE SHOP AND A SNACK SHOP.
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WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DEFINITION SO WE CAN DISTINGUISH THE TWO.THE QUESTION IS, IS IT GOING TO BE A WELL DEFINED OBJECTIVE METRIC THAT WE SPEND TIME ANALYZING.
OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ULTIMATELY ALLOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE MORE SOME MORE DISCRETION TO ADMINISTER FOR THE TIME BEING? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY DETERMINE.
WITH DISCRETION. BECAUSE IN MY MIND, THIS IS TO REGULATE SMOKE SHOPS.
NOT NOT THE CONVENIENCE STORES, NOT THE GAS STATIONS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, FOR ANCILLARY USE, IF YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT, PUT IN BY REVENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SURE.
YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT ONE OF THE SMOKE SHOPS IN MY DISTRICT, I'M SURE BY SALES VOLUME AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE TOBACCO SALES IS ACTUALLY A MINORITY OF WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY'RE A LIQUOR STORE.
LIQUOR AND CIGARS ON PCH AT PEARL. SO I DON'T WANT TO SIT THERE AND GO, OH, WELL, SINCE IT'S ONLY 30%, YOU'RE NOT A SMOKE SHOP THERE. NO, THERE'S STILL ONE OF THE SMOKE SHOPS THAT WE SHOULD BE REGULATING.
BUT DO YOU KNOW, IN THAT CASE, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE MAPS OUT, IF THAT'S ONE OF THE 16 THAT'S CITED, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE DEFINING SMOKE SHOPS, IS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES. IT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT LISTED? ONE OF THE ONES ON THAT MAP. WHAT ABOUT CHEVRON ON PCH? RIGHT. THAT'S A GAS STATION. BUT THEY SELL CIGARETTES.
YEAH. IT'S MORE THAN 2% OF THEIR AREA. SO. BUT THEIR GAS STATION.
IS THE GAS STATION PART OF THE SQUARE FEET? OR IS IT JUST THE STORE? JUST A BIT. I MEAN. BUT I DO THINK ALL THE ENHANCEMENTS ARE UNIQUE.
AND YEAH, SURE, 2% IS PROBABLY. A SIX FOOT LOCKED CAGE IS OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN THAT 2% STANDARD.
I THINK IT'S HARD. IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER IN THESE LIQUOR STORE, SMALL GROCERY MARKET SCENARIOS, TWO PERCENTS QUICKLY A VERY POTENTIALLY A VERY SMALL SPACE.
YEAH. SO IF YOU NEED TO ADJUST IT TO 5% OR 10%, THAT MIGHT BE OKAY TOO.
YEAH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO TOO HIGH BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO HAVE A SECTION THAT I DON'T WANT TO BASED ON HIS SALES VOLUME, BECAUSE THEN. THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO MASTER. TO DIG INTO THE FINANCIALS A WEEK. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF BENEFITS OF DISPLAY AREAS. IT'S EASIER TO MEASURE.
I'VE SEEN WHERE IT'S MORE AMBIGUOUS. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT MAYBE WHAT THE PRODUCT LINE IS AND TRY TO QUANTIFY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR PRODUCTS OR THAT CERTAIN TYPE. AND THE DISPLAY AREA IS A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WHILE IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY MEASURE IT, I THINK THE INTENT IS, IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE STORE, AND THEN THERE'S SOME DISCRETION IF IT FALLS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THOSE PARAMETERS FOR BUSINESS. AND YOU CAN PHYSICALLY INSPECT IT, WHEREAS YOU WOULD HAVE TO AUDIT SALES, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
YES, AND SO TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER'S POINT, WE WANT TO REGULATE SMOKE SHOPS.
WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT DEFINITION THAT NOBODY'S SKIRTING IT.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 2% AND 200FT² FOR A GROCERY STORE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
I MEAN, DO WE RAISE IT TO 5%? DOES A LITTLE MORE SURVEYING NEED TO BE DONE TO THIS GAS STATION AND THE BONDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU? SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE NOT AS SMALL? YEAH, I THINK SO.
AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE'RE HERE TONIGHT WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
DO WE DO IT JUST ON THE FLY RIGHT HERE? OR DO WE COME BACK? NO, WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD RESEARCH IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
BRINGING THIS BACK FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION.
I HAD A CALL FROM THIS ASSOCIATION OF, LIKE, CONVENIENCE STORES.
I FORGET WHAT THE DEFINITION WAS. AND BEFORE I COULD SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THEM, THEY DROPPED IT BECAUSE THEY READ, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE PUSHING TOWARDS. AND I THINK THEY WERE SATISFIED THAT WE WEREN'T JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, OUT BAN, OUTRIGHT TOBACCO SALES IN THEIR SHOPS.
SO THEY TOTALLY BACK DOWN FROM EVEN. AND I WILL.
ASSESS WHAT THIS DOES. IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOBBY.
I MEAN THAT. THE MINUTE IT WILL NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS DEFINITION, BECAUSE IF IT'S TOO RESTRICTIVE, WE'RE NOW BRINGING IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GROUP OF BUSINESSES. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN SATISFIED THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DEFINE AN ORDINANCE THAT STILL
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ALLOWS THEIR PRACTICE WHILE WE'RE BANNING OR LIMITING SMOKE SHOPS, IF THEY DON'T WONDER WHAT WE CALL SMOKE SHOP.YEAH, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD POINT. AND SO HOW QUICKLY COULD WE GET MOVE ON.
HOW QUICKLY COULD YOU COME BACK WITH, HEY, WE'VE GOT THE SWEET SPOT.
IT'S 5% OF TOTAL GROSS FLOOR AREA. IT'S 400FT².
I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A LOBBY. IT'S THESE. BUSINESS GROUP.
BUSINESS GROUP, YEAH. YEAH I THINK WE PROBABLY WOULD.
WE DO. AND OUT OF FAIRNESS, WE'VE BEEN MOVING VERY SWIFTLY ON THIS AND WE'RE MOVING WITH PACE.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE MORATORIUM THROUGH JUNE. I MEAN, WE'RE COVERED UNTIL AT LEAST THAT POINT.
BUT THE SOONER WE GET THE ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTED, THE SOONER WE CAN START THE ATTRITION PROCESS, SO.
WELL, YOU'VE HEARD THE STATEMENTS, THE CONCERNS.
WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND WE DO? I THINK I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOU.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT CLARITY ON WHAT THAT DEFINITION WOULD BE.
WE'LL WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK. MY GUESS IS WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING BACK THE ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION AT THE THE THIRD MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, AS OPPOSED TO THE FIRST. I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD GIVE YOU SOME RESEARCH AT THAT POINT. IT MIGHT BLEED INTO OCTOBER THAT, THERE'S THAT POTENTIAL. THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT MAY CREATE PRESSURE FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT SCHEDULE. I DON'T THINK WE LOSE ALL MOMENTUM, BUT WE SHOULD DO IT RIGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL THIS INTO THE CONVERSATION.
OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE LUCKY WE DID DO THE MORATORIUM IF YOU'VE GOT.
YEAH. SO. BUT YET, APPLICANTS, JUST SINCE THE MORATORIUM WENT IN.
WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN ACTIVITY AND INQUIRIES ABOUT OPENING SMOKE SHOPS IN THE CITY.
YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I'LL FINISH THE PRESENTATION.
THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO ADDRESS IT, AND.
BUT IF WE COULD LOOK 80 MORE SLIDES, SO. IF WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING 16 SHOPS TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR FLOOR AREA, IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT METRIC IS ACTUALLY TOBACCO SALES.
YEAH. WE CAN. I MEAN, THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THAT IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT, SMOKE SHOPS, IT'S NOT JUST THE TOBACCO ITSELF. RIGHT. IT'S THE ANCILLARY PRODUCTS.
IT'S SOME OF THESE OTHER OR MAYBE LEGAL ACTIVITIES.
AS WELL. RIGHT. SO I, AND THAT'S AND THAT'S THE DISTINCTION WHERE YOU GO BACK TO THESE OTHER GROCERY STORE CONCEPTS OR, YOU KNOW, THE GAS STATIONS, THEY'RE NOT SELLING THE ANCILLARY PRODUCTS. THEY'RE SIMPLY SELLING, YOU KNOW, THE CARTONS OF CIGARETTES. RIGHT. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER, I THINK, FROM A DEFINITION STANDPOINT, SO. OKAY. JUST BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WOULD PREFER TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THIS BECAUSE WE CAN AMEND IT.
IT IS AN ORDINANCE THAT CAN BE AMENDED IF WE FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RULED OUT SOME UNINTENDED STORES, WE CAN AMEND IT, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE THAT SCENARIO THAN HAVE A WORKAROUND.
SO I'D PREFER TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN IT. AND I THINK A KEY WITH THE EXISTING STORES AS THEY WOULD BE LEGAL NONCONFORMING, IT GETS TO OPERATE AS CURRENTLY DESIGNED AND CONFIGURED.
BUT IT WOULD AFFECT ANY NEW CONVENIENCE STORES OR GROCERY STORES THAT WANT TO SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
WELL, THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST SMOKE SHOPS THAT WE'RE BANNING.
IT'S NEW CONVENIENCE STORES, IT'S NEW GAS STATIONS, IT'S OTHER NEW BUSINESSES LIKE THAT NEW GROCERY, SMALL GROCERY STORES THAT WERE DE FACTO BANNING IN THE FUTURE IF, DEPENDING ON HOW WE DEFINE US.
RIGHT. BUT, I MEAN, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR MORE TOBACCO IN THE CITY.
OKAY. WELL, SUBJECT TO HOW WE END UP ON THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU COULD GET THIS DONE.
TIGHTEN IT UP AND COME BACK. WE HAVE THE MORATORIUM.
DO IT RIGHT. DO IT ONCE. KIND OF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
YEAH, YEAH, I'LL MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF IT FAST.
I DO WANT TO NOTE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.
THEY WANTED US TO, WANT THE CITY TO DEVELOP A WAY.
MARC CAN I ASK YOU. DID YOU COVER THIS, THE LOUNGE ISSUE, THOUGH? THE CIGAR. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT. YES. THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT WE EXCLUDE CIGAR LOUNGES, SMOKERS LOUNGES. THOSE ARE REALLY ACTIVITY TYPE BASED USES, LIKE A BAR AND NOT A RETAIL STORE.
SO THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION.
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO THE REPORT HAS THE RED LINE CHANGES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED, AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM. AND WE REFERRED TO THE, I BELIEVE, AS THE CALIFORNIA LABOR CODE FOR THE DEFINITION OF SMOKERS LOUNGE FOR WHAT
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WOULD BE EXCLUDED. AND CAN I, SINCE WE'RE ON THAT ONE AND WE'RE BELABORING THIS ONE CHART.THAT DEFINITION, I WASN'T SURE READING IT WHETHER THAT WOULD INCLUDE HOOKAH LOUNGES OR HOOKAH LOUNGES, FOR EXAMPLE. IT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOOD FOR THE PRIVATE CIGAR CLUB AND FOR PLACES OF WORK, BUT HOOKAH IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE, WHETHER IT BE AN ACTUAL CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE, OR AT LEAST A VERY STRONG JUDGMENT SAYING THAT YES, DON'T WORRY, YOU KNOW, THE HOOKAH LOUNGES ARE NOT INCLUDED, AND IF THEY AREN'T, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY KNOCK US FROM 16 DOWN TO 14, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE ON TORRANCE BOULEVARD AND ONE ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THESE HOOKAH LOUNGES ARE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU COME THERE AND YOU CONSUME ON PREMISES, AND IF YOU DID BUY, YOU'RE BUYING TO BRING TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE HOOKAH, YOU'RE NOT WALKING DOWN THE STREET OR IN YOUR CAR WITH THIS STUFF.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN CARVE OUTS FOR HOOKAH BECAUSE IT IS A CULTURAL USE AS WELL.
SO FLAVORED TOBACCO, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ALLOWED IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
AND SO FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS ORDINANCE NOT TO BE TARGETING THE HOOKAH LOUNGES.
YEAH. SO THIS WAS THE INTENT? YEAH. I MEAN, I GUESS NOT TO STEP ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY.
THIS IS A SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT A HOOKAH LOUNGE ORDINANCE.
AND THOSE MAY BE GOOD IDEAS. LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON THE SMOKE SHOPS.
BUT THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAPS. BOTH OF THOSE.
YEAH. OKAY. LET'S NOT DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHY.
YOU SELL THE PRODUCT AS A RETAIL ON SITE AND THEN YOU ENJOY THE PRODUCT.
SO THERE'S THE PERMITTING. AND THE RETAIL COMPONENT OF THE LOUNGE IS SOMETHING THAT DOES BLEED INTO THIS CONVERSATION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHY IT'S PROBABLY BEING FLAGGED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DEFINITION AND MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
OKAY. YOU'LL LOOK AT IT. YOU'LL WORK ON IT. OKAY.
WE WILL. AND THIS WAS INTENDED TO CAPTURE TWO LOUNGES.
I'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT STATE DEFINITION.
MAYBE IT'S NOT IMPLIED IN THERE. AND WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED THIS, THEY ACTUALLY REFERENCED HOOKAH LOUNGES AS SOMETHING THEY RECOMMENDED FIT INTO THIS CATEGORY OF IT BEING EXCLUDED. SO WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S COVERED.
AND ALSO LOOK AT THE TWO THAT WERE MARKED AS TOBACCO STORES.
YEAH. IT'S 800 TORRANCE BOULEVARD. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE ADDRESS ON ARTESIA.
ZEIN WOULD KNOW THAT ONE. IT'S JUST ARTESIA AND RINDGE.
BUT IF I COULD DIRECTOR WIENER. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD YOU KNOW, SUBJECT HOOKAH, YOU KNOW, HOOKAH LOUNGES AND CIGARS, SHOP LOUNGES TO CUPS.
NOT THE SAME ONE AS THE SMOKE SHOPS, BUT SEPARATE CUPS.
BECAUSE I RECALL FROM BACK WHEN DAVE'S OLD BOOK SHOP WAS OPEN, THEY HAD A NUMBER OF NUISANCE ISSUES.
I'M SURE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAYBE CAPTAIN MARTINEZ COULD LET US KNOW.
AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES TO THE HOOKAH LOUNGE ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'D HAVE, THEY'D ALLOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALCOHOL PERMIT.
AND SO THE LAST THING I WOULD THE LAST THING I'D WANT TO DO IS JUST GIVE THEM A CARTE BLANCHE AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE EXCEPTED TOTALLY FROM REGULATION.
THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. I'M SORRY FOR THE MISPRONUNCIATION, DIRECTOR WIENER.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE TYPE OF USE THAT CAN CREATE A NUISANCE, SUCH AS. SO WE PUT NO VOMITING IN THE CUP? NO BYOB.
YEAH, NO FOOD, NO ALCOHOL, ETC. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THEY HAVE.
YOU CAN JUST STAND IN THE PARKING LOT IN THE CIRCLE. OKAY.
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FOR SMOKE SHOPS OR MAYBE MORE BROADLY. SINCE THEN, I HAVE MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THE MATTER.CURRENTLY, WE WOULD ENFORCE THROUGH THE CRIMINAL PROCESS AND THIS, IF A BUSINESS WERE IN VIOLATION, IT WOULD BE A MISDEMEANOR. WE COULD POTENTIALLY AMEND THE SECTION OF THE CODE ON ADDRESSES INFRACTIONS AND CATEGORIZE THIS AS AN INFRACTION, ALONG WITH POTENTIALLY OTHER BUSINESS VIOLATIONS AS WELL.
AND WITH THAT, THERE IS A PROGRESSION OF FINES, AND THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND IT WOULD STILL BE CRIMINAL. ALTHOUGH IT WOULD SOME, THERE'S BENEFITS TO KEEPING THAT PROCESS INTACT VERSUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION PROCESS. JOY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.
I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST, BUT OF REASONS WHY NOT TO GO TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION PROCESS AND THE BENEFITS OF DOING IT BY WAY OF CRIMINAL CITATIONS. YOU CAN MAKE IT A WOBBLETTE, WHICH WOULD GIVE THE POLICE THE DISCRETION OF CITING IT AS EITHER AN INFRACTION OR A MISDEMEANOR.
WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? A WOBBLETTE. YEAH. SO A WOBBLER IS A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY.
A WHILE WOBBLETTE IS A MISDEMEANOR OR AN INFRACTION.
WOW, I LEARNED SOMETHING. SO WE DO HAVE A LIST IN OUR CODE SPECIFICALLY THAT HAS CERTAIN SECTIONS OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT CAN BE ENFORCED AS EITHER A MISDEMEANOR OR AN INFRACTION.
SO YOU HAVE THAT DISCRETION. YOU CAN MAKE IT THAT WAY.
I THINK RIGHT NOW IT READS A VIOLATION WOULD BE A MISDEMEANOR.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE DISCRETION TO THE POLICE OR THE PROSECUTOR TO ENFORCE IT AS AN INFRACTION, YOU CAN DO THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE. AND IF WE DO THAT, DOES THAT LIMIT? OR IS THAT DIRECTLY TIED TO THE ABILITY TO SUSPEND THEIR PERMIT? YES. IT DOES SAY ANY VIOLATION OF THIS CODE OR STATE LAW COULD BE A BASIS FOR REVOCATION, REVOCATION OF THE CUP OR EVEN THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE.
OKAY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAD ONE INFRACTION.
WE FIND YOU, YOU HAVE THREE. WE WE PULL YOUR THING.
WE STILL HAVE DISCRETION AT ANY POINT TO. CORRECT.
AND THOSE ARE VERY INVOLVED. OKAY. AND JOY, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THE WOBBLETTE. I LIKE THAT IN THIS INSTANCE. AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE THROUGH CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND OR INFRACTION, AS OPPOSED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION PROCESS.
ON A STAFFING BASIS, I WOULD HAVE TO LIKELY BRING ON NEW PERSONNEL.
THERE'S AN EQUITABLE STANDARD IN HOW WE CONDUCT THAT PROCESS.
IT WOULD REQUIRE LEGAL SUPPORT IN SOME INSTANCES.
IT'S TIME INTENSIVE. AND WHILE IT SEEMS EASY.
HEY, WE CAN JUST NOW WE CAN JUST WRITE ALL THESE CITATIONS, COLLECT THE REVENUE.
THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOR APPEAL OF ALL OF THEM.
THAT PROCESS IS FAIRLY BUREAUCRATIC AND IT IS A DRAIN ON RESOURCE.
SO I LIKE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY. I THINK ADDING THIS TO THE OPTION FOR INFRACTION ADDRESSES THE SUGGESTION FROM THE COMMISSION, AND I THINK WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
OKAY. AND THEN THE COMMISSION ALSO DISCUSSED THE OPTION OF POTENTIALLY REQUIRING A BOND OF SMOKE SHOP BUSINESSES IS THERE IS A LIKELINESS FOR ENFORCEMENT. THE ONE CONCERN WITH THAT IS IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE FUNDS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HOLD THE FUNDS AND THEN DISPERSE THEM AS NECESSARY.
SO STAFF WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND AGAINST THIS.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE REGULAR ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES, WHICH INCLUDE INFRACTIONS.
POTENTIAL REVOCATION OF THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND CUP WOULD SUFFICE.
IF THERE WERE VIOLATIONS. SLIDE TWO. [LAUGHTER] SO I DO WANT TO DESCRIBE AND THIS IS A KIND OF A MEATY TOPIC. SO THE ORDINANCE INCLUDES STANDARDS FOR CONCENTRATION AND LOCATION OF SMOKE SHOPS.
IN AN EARLIER SLIDE, I SHARED WITH YOU WHAT THE ORIGINAL DRAFTS PROPOSED, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, NAMELY TO REQUIRE 150FT FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL USES AND PARKS.
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BUSINESSES, THE SMOKE SHOPS, THAT WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING IF THOSE STANDARDS APPLIED.SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED TO AVOID MAKING ALL OF THEM NONCONFORMING WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE 150 FOOT FROM RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT.
IN ADDITION TO DAYCARES, JUST DUE TO THE SMALL LIKELIHOOD OF THEIR BEING EXPOSED TO MINORS FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE, AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY THE THOUSAND FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN SMOKE SHOPS, THAT RULES OUT 81% OF THE BUSINESSES, AND WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT REDUCING THAT TO POSSIBLY 500FT OR SOME OTHER STANDARD OR JUST OUTRIGHT ELIMINATING IT.
AND I WILL SAY, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON THIS TONIGHT, YOU CAN GIVE US PROVIDE GUIDELINES LIKE WE'RE LOOKING TO AT A MAXIMUM MAKE 45% NONCONFORMING OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
BUT I DID WANT TO RAISE THAT ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE WITH THESE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, IT DOES MAKE SEVERAL OF THE BUSINESSES LEGAL NONCONFORMING. AND I HAVE THE MAPS IF YOU WANT ME TO BRING THOSE UP AND I THINK THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING IF I COULD HERE MARC TO NOTE, IS IF WE CREATE AN OVERLY RESTRICTIVE ORDINANCE AND WE GIVE NO PATH TO SUCCESSFUL LICENSE, WE COULD SUBJECT OURSELVES TO LATER CHALLENGE.
AND I THINK BUT THEY STILL HAVE FIVE YEARS TO RECOUP.
THEY HAVE FIVE YEARS. BUT YOU KNOW, IN THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE 100, IF THE PROHIBITION IS 150FT FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONES, AND WE IF WE MAY ON PAPER SAY WE ALLOW UP TO FIVE LOCATIONS, BUT IN REALITY THERE ARE NOT FIVE LOCATIONS THAT COULD BE ULTIMATELY ACHIEVED.
SO I WOULD I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE NOT INCLUDE THE 150 FOOT RESIDENTIAL BUFFER.
AND I AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE REDUCE THE OTHER SMOKE SHOP BUFFER.
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE POTENTIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE SMOKE SHOPS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CREATE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE STANDARD HERE.
AND I MEAN 150FT, THAT'S 50 YARDS. THAT'S HALF A FOOTBALL FIELD.
IS THAT A REAL DETERRENT ANYWAY. RIGHT, RIGHT.
I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS A DETERRENT. MAYBE GETTING TO 600FT.
THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR TIMES THAT. SO BUT 150FT SEEMS LIKE A JOKE TO ME, SO.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RULE THEM ALL OUT, SO.
YEAH. 150FT FROM THE PARK CAME FROM THE DALE PAGE PARK.
FROM THE CANNABIS THING. THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
WE EXPLICITLY SAID DALE PAGE, WE'VE EXCLUDED THAT.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THAT 150FT FROM PARKS.
I AGREE. WELL, NO YOUTH CENTER. WE WANT TO. OH, YES.
AND I'M SORRY. YOUTH CENTER FOR PERRY PARK. THE ONLY.
SO WE COULD WE COULD DROP THE 150FT FROM PARK AND SIMPLY ISOLATE IT TO THE TWO DALE PAGE LIKE WE DID FOR CANNABIS AND BE, I THINK, HAVE IT RESOLVED. AND THAT'S WHAT THE GAME.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL DRAFT PROPOSES.
IT WAS MODIFIED BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
YEAH. YEAH. JANE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT. YES, PLEASE. THANKS. SO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER AND I DISCUSSED IT, AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D BE CONCERNED WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR DAYCARES. ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT TODDLERS GOING INTO THE SMOKE SHOP AND BUYING CIGARETTES? THE OTHER POINT, THOUGH, IS WHAT TEETH DOES THE PROVISION, THE PROVISION THAT DON'T ALLOW MINORS TO ENTER THE SMOKE SHOP? I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATED.
I SEE THAT IT SAYS THAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT STORE OWNERS SHALL NOT WILLFULLY ALLOW SOMEBODY TO WHO IS NOT OF MAJORITY AGE TO ENTER THE SMOKE SHOP.
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AND MY CONCERN IS IT SHOULDN'T BE WILLFULLY WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT, THEY JUST SHOULDN'T LET MINORS ENTER THE SMOKE SHOP WITHOUT BEING ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT, AND THEN QUERY IF THEY VIOLATE THAT. IF WE SEE THAT TEENS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL ARE REPEATEDLY WALKING, YOU KNOW, 600FT TO GO TO A SMOKE SHOP, WHAT TEETH DO WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THAT? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE SPECIFIC PENALTIES THERE, BUT IS A VIOLATION OF ANY ONE OF THE PROVISIONS.IS THAT AN INFRACTION OR WOBBLETTE? [LAUGHTER] USING THAT WORD? OH, RIGHT. ANYWAY, I WOULD DEFER TO JOY. I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, IT WOULD BE RIGHT WITH ANY VIOLATION, THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO AN INFRACTION OR MISDEMEANOR.
SO THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, ANY VIOLATION IS A MISDEMEANOR.
SO THE REASON IF YOU LOOK AT PARAGRAPH THREE ON PAGE SIX OF THE RESOLUTION AT THE TOP, THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE IS UNLAWFUL FOR A SMOKE SHOP TO KNOWINGLY ALLOW OR PERMIT MINOR SHOULD BE A MINOR NOT ACCOMPANIED BY HIS OR HER PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN TO ENTER OR REMAIN WITHIN A SMOKE SHOP.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE KNOWINGLY RIGHT. SHOULDN'T IT JUST BE TO ALLOW OR PERMIT A STRICT LIABILITY TYPE SITUATION? YEAH. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE HARD TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'D BE HARD TO PROVE WILLINGLY.
RIGHT. OR KNOWINGLY. YEAH. SO WE COULD REMOVE THAT WORD AND THEN IF WE IF WE DO CREATE THE DUAL STANDARD, THEN WE OBVIOUSLY COULD USE SOME DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REASONABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DUPED BY THE MINOR SNEAKING IN. OKAY.
SO THAT, THAT THOSE PENALTIES WILL APPLY TO ALL THESE PROVISIONS THEN.
RIGHT. CORRECT. AND I THINK IF YOU DELETE THE WORD KNOWINGLY, THEN I THINK SMOKE SHOP OWNERS WOULD BE MORE DILIGENT ABOUT CHECKING YOUNG PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND ASKING FOR THEIR ID.
CAN WE JUST MANDATE CHECKING ID? WHAT DID WE DO IN THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE? DO YOU HAVE TO CHECK ID TO BUY A BAG OF CHIPS? YEAH, WELL, IT'S A SMOKE SHOP, BUT THAT SELLS.
OUR PRIMARY THING IS TO SELL SMOKING MATERIALS.
THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES TO BUY CHIPS. RIGHT.
BUT IT'S. IT'D BE PRETTY RIGOROUS.
STANDARD. WHAT WE'RE SAYING THEY COULDN'T BRING THEM IN ANY.
BECAUSE IT'S A SMOKE SHOP. WE'RE ALREADY SAYING THAT.
DO WE SAY THAT FOR LIQUOR STORES? I'M NOT SAYING NO, I'M JUST SAYING IT.
RESTRICTING ACCESS IS. WHAT IS THE POINT. I DON'T WANT.
WELL, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET US SUED BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE PREVENTING THE CONVENIENCE STORE FROM SELLING CONVENIENCE STORE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY ALSO SELL CIGARETTES. I SEE IT AS A CHOICE. DO YOU WANT TO SELL CIGARETTES? IF YOU DO. THESE ARE THE RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO DO ABIDE BY IN THE CITY.
OTHERWISE. MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, THOUGH, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS THEY START SELLING CANDY OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD ATTRACT KIDS, AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO GET SOME ALCOHOL OR FIND A WAY TO GET ALCOHOL OR TOBACCO.
TOBACCO? I MEAN, YEAH, TOBACCO. SORRY. WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? THIS UNLAWFUL FOR A MINOR TO ENTER A SMOKE SHOP PROVISION? GO AHEAD. PARAGRAPH THREE. YEAH, I SEE WHERE IT IS.
I LIKE THE CONCEPT. RIGHT. YOU DON'T WANT KIDS IN A SMOKE SHOP.
BUT NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
IT LEADS ME TO ASK, WHERE IS THIS TAKEN FROM? WHERE DID WE COME UP WITH THIS? I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE FRESNO ORDINANCE FOR THAT PROVISION.
IN THIS, WHAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS A COMBINATION OF STUFF THAT WAS DRAFTED BY STAFF, BUT ALSO PULLING FROM SOME OTHER ORDINANCES FROM OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE SIMILAR AND WORKING WITH WHAT THEY HAD DONE.
ONE SUGGESTION MIGHT BE IF THE CONCERN IS WITH ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE THAT HAVE ANCILLARY USE, YOU CAN WRITE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IF IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE OR GROCERY STORE THAT SELLING TOBACCO PRODUCTS AS AN ANCILLARY SALE, THEN YOU MIGHT NOT BE SUBJECT TO THAT REQUIREMENT TO BASICALLY CHECK ID AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW. YOU COULD DEFINDED AS A SMOKE SHOP.
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SO YOU CAN KIND OF PARSE IT OUT THAT WAY. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW.CAN WE BROADEN THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A SMOKE SHOP WAS THAT INCORPORATED INCLUDED LIKE CONVENIENCE STORES AND THINGS? AND THEN WHAT CONVENIENCE STORES AND GROCERY STORES? NO, WE DIDN'T. NO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, LIKE THE 2% RULE LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD INCORPORATE GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT THAT'S NOT SMOKE SHOP. WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER.
SO WE'RE NOT I THINK WITH THE PARADE OF HORRIBLES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.
I THINK IF WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF SMOKE SHOPS AND TO CHERYL'S POINT THAT THE THAT THE APPLICATION OF OR THE MINOR PREVENTION OF ENTRY, ETC. IS APPLIED EXCLUSIVELY TO THOSE BUSINESSES TO SMOKE SHOPS AND AND RECOGNIZING THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE FIVE IN TOWN, THEN MAYBE THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY FOR US TO REQUIRE THAT TYPE OF A AN ID CHECK.
YES. BUT WE MAY NEED TO WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER PHASING THAT IN.
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. WE'RE SAYING SMOKE SHOPS CAN'T ADVERTISE A CERTAIN WAY.
THEY CAN'T DO THIS. THEY CAN'T DO THAT. BUT IF THEY ATTRACT THE KIDS INSIDE AND THEN THEY JUST SEE THE SAME THING, IT'S DEFEATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK IT'S ONE WAY TO SAY, LIKE, WE NEED TO DEFINE SMOKE SHOPS IN MY MIND.
WE NEED TO DEFINE ANCILLARY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS UNDER THOSE.
DO BOTH. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
IF I STARTED BEFORE I REALIZE I HAVE TWO SECONDS AND THEN EVERYBODY JUMPS IN.
SORRY [LAUGHTER]. THE DEFINITION OF ANCILLARY SALE IS PROBLEMATIC.
I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT WE'RE WRAPPING IN TOO MANY THINGS I GOT REACHED OUT TO FROM OR A GAS STATION IN MY DISTRICT REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS, ALONG WITH THEIR ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE COMFORTED BY WHAT DIRECTOR WIENER RESPONDED TO ABOUT THEIR CONCERN.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION, THIS IS A VERY NARROW DEFINITION OF WHAT THE 2% IS DOING OR WHAT THE 200FT² IS DESIGNATED FOR. IT'S CONVENTIONAL CIGARS, CIGARETTES OR TOBACCO.
SO YOU COULD HAVE A BONG SHOP, A HUGE BONG SHOP SELLING $300 BONGS THAT ARE WATER PIPES, QUOTE UNQUOTE, FOR TOBACCO, BUT USE FOR CANNABIS AND OR THERE THEY ARE FOR CANNABIS, SINCE CANNABIS IS LEGAL IN THE STATE.
AND THEN THEY SELL CIGARETTES, CIGARS, CIGARETTES AND TOBACCO FOR LESS THAN 2% OF THEIR REVENUE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THOUGHT THE SMOKE SHOP DEFINITION INCLUDED ANCILLARY PARAPHERNALIA.
DESCRIBE BONGS. IT DOES IT SAYS PERMITS DEDICATED TO THE DISPLAY, SALE, DISTRIBUTION, DELIVERY, OFFERING, FURNISHING OR MARKETING OF TOBACCO, TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR TOBACCO PARAPHERNALIA.
PROVIDED THAT, HOWEVER, THAT ANY GROCERY STORE, SUPERMARKET, CONVENIENCE STORE, OR SIMILAR RETAIL USE THAT ONLY SELLS CONVENTIONAL CIGARS, CIGARETTES OR TOBACCO IS AN ANCILLARY SELL SHALL NOT BE DEFINED AS A SMOKE SHOP OR TOBACCO STORE.
THANK YOU, I THOUGHT. OKAY, SORRY. YEAH, I WAS JUST READING THE ANCILLARY SALE PROVISION UNDER B WHICH I GUESS IS QUALIFIED BY GROCERY STORE, SUPERMARKET, CONVENIENCE STORE, ETC.
BUT MAYBE WE COULD EXPRESS THE STATE GAS STATION IN THERE.
LIKE, YOU DON'T WANT TO WALK INTO A GAS STATION, LITTLE MINI MART, AND HAVE JOE CAMEL YOU KNOW, A BIG CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF JOE CAMEL ADVERTISING TO ANY KID WHO WALKS IN THERE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S ALL ILLEGAL. WELL, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ACTION TO COME BACK WITH A TIGHTENED UP, OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
YEAH. NO. OKAY. AND OUR THOUGHT. I THOUGHT THAT WE BELIEVED THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT 600FT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND 600FT FROM THE YOUTH CENTERS.
AND THE YOUTH CENTER DEFINITION NEEDED TO INCLUDE WELLNESS IN IT.
BUT CURRENTLY, THE YOUTH CENTER DEFINITION DOES NOT INCLUDE WELLNESS.
IT'S RECREATIONAL AND SOCIAL. I BELIEVE. SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD INCLUDE ALLCOVE.
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YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO SHARE 1A YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND I MET FOR A WHILE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES. AND SO FOR, FOR YOUTH CENTER, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALLCOVE AND ITS TYPE OF SERVICE WAS SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED. SO THIS IS A RED LINE TO YOUTH CENTER THAT BECAUSE ALLCOVE SERVES RESIDENTS UP TO THE AGE OF 25. WE ALSO WANTED TO SORT TO COVER THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUTH AND WE DON'T WANT YOUTH CENTER TO BE THEN SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, ALLCOVE SERVES ADULTS AND THEREFORE IT'S NOT A YOUTH CENTER.SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DEFINITION SAYING FOR RECREATIONAL, SOCIAL, EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL OR WELLNESS ACTIVITIES FOR PERSONS UNDER 18, BUT THEN SAY YOUTH CENTER SHALL ALSO INCLUDE FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE SUCH SERVICES TO BOTH MINORS AND YOUNG ADULTS UP TO AGE 25 YEARS OF AGE, SUCH AS ALLCOVE CENTERS OR SIMILAR PROGRAMS. WHAT WOULD THAT INCLUDE, A GYM? I DON'T THINK A GYM WOULD BE IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S.
WELLNESS ACTIVITIES. OR WHY I GUESS, DEPENDING ON YOUR DEFINITION OF WELLNESS IS THAT.
FOR HEALTH, THAT'S RECREATIONAL TOO. I AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A DEFINITION THAT INCLUDED THINGS LIKE GYMS AND PARKS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, HEY, YOUTH HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS, IS AND IT'S LIKE, SO THAT GOT PULLED OUT OF IT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE EXAMPLES WAS EXAMPLES OF YOUTH CENTERS INCLUDE BUT AND IT COULD HAVE INCLUDED GYMS, PARKS, ETC.. PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. WHAT IF YOU HAVE A DANCE STUDIO OR A CERAMIC SHOP? THAT'S FOR KIDS. PARTICULARLY FOR KIDS. TO RULE OUT? YEAH. IT WOULD. HAVE YOU DONE THAT NOW? WELL, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT NOW.
NO. NOT YET. I TAKE OUT A LOT OF STRIP MALLS.
AND THEN WHAT IF IT MOVES IN AFTERWARDS? YEAH.
WHAT IF IT MOVES IN AFTERWARDS? PREEXISTING CONDITION.
OR JUST ADD WELLNESS. I MEAN, THE DEFINITION WE HAVE NOW, IF WE DO, IF WE JUST SAY SOCIAL OR WELLNESS SERVICE, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE FINE. YEAH. OR MENTAL HEALTH.
OR MENTAL? YEAH. I THINK WELLNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH.
I MEAN, EITHER OF THOSE WORDS WERE I THINK I MEAN, CANDIDLY, I THINK, IF MARC WERE TO READ THIS, I DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO MANY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. WE PROBABLY WOULD APPLY ALLCOVE TO IT EVEN WITH THE PHRASING SOCIAL SERVICE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION.
BASICALLY, WE WERE JUST THINKING HIGH SCHOOLS, YOUTH CENTERS AND SMOKE SHOP SEPARATION AT 600FT.
SO EVERYTHING'S 600FT. NOT MIDDLE SCHOOLS. NOT MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
THERE ARE NO MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE. THERE'S NO RETAIL WITHIN 1000FT OF ANY OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
AND IF WE WANTED TO INCLUDE PARKS, THEN 150FT FROM PARKS IS PROBABLY REASONABLE.
IF YOU MAKE IT ANY BIGGER THAN THAT, THEN YOU RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKETTES AND SIMILAR PARK AREAS WHERE I CAN'T. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PARK? ZEIN THAT IS BEHIND TOMMY AND ATTICUS? WELL. ANDREWS PARK. YEAH. THAT PARK IS PRETTY CLOSE TO COMMERCIAL.
YEAH. SO. AND I SUPPOSE THE OTHER POINT WE ARE THINKING IS IF WE MAKE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THESE ORDINANCES STRONG ENOUGH, THEY REGULATE THE SMOKE SHOP STRINGENTLY ENOUGH, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T MATTER WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE NO KIDS SHOULD BE ENTERING IT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THAT'S THE MAIN POINT. YES. OKAY.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY AS COMPREHENSIVE IN FUTURE PROOF.
IT USED SOME JARGON. SO WE WENT THROUGH I THINK THIS WAS THE THIRD EDIT.
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WHETHER BE REUSABLE OR DISPOSABLE, DESIGNED TO DELIVER.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO READ IT OR NOT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEFINITION THERE.
SO IF YOU GUYS DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT ALOUD? DOES IT? NO IT'S FINE. I DON'T THINK IT HELPS. ALL RIGHT.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS.
WHAT ABOUT AN INHALER. I THOUGHT OF THAT, TOO.
BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE SMOKE SHOPS ARE SELLING INHALERS.
THE SECOND ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANCES WHERE I JUST REDLINED THE HIGH SCHOOL SMOKE SHOPS AND YOUTH CENTERS AS DEFINED, WHATEVER. AND IF WE WANT TO FIX THAT YOUTH CENTER DEFINITION, WE COULD DO THAT IN CODE 10-2.1626, AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT IN THE SMOKE SHOP THING SO THAT IT COVERS, BECAUSE THAT'S REFERRED TO IN THE MULTIPLE ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO IT'S BETTER TO FIX THAT ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF WORDING THIS ONE.
AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT MAY NOT BE AS COMPREHENSIVE.
IS THAT AGREEABLE TO CITY ATORNEY YEAH. OKAY.
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. QUICK QUESTION IF I COULD ON THAT.
SURE. E-CIGARETTE, THANKS TO YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI FOR DOING THAT DEEP DIVE.
SO IS THE POINT SMOKE SHOP IS DEFINED AS A BUSINESS THAT HAS AS ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE TOBACCO, TOBACCO PARAPHERNALIA, AND THE TOBACCO PARAPHERNALIA INCLUDES E-CIGARETTES.
THESE ARE, YOU KNOW. AND INHALERS. AND YOU'VE INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION ARE PROPOSED TO INCLUDE E-CIGARETTES TOBACCO AND CANNABIS. SO IF WE HAVE THAT IN HERE AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY, WE HAVEN'T ISSUED AN RFA ON CANNABIS. BUT IF WE DEFINE E-CIGARETTES AS INCLUDING CANNABIS E-CIGARETTES, WOULD THAT THEN DRAW INTO THIS ORDINANCE ANY POTENTIAL CANNABIS SHOP IN THE FUTURE? AND THERE MAY NOT BE AN ANSWER.
SO IF THAT IS AN ISSUE, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE DID.
NO BECAUSE THEY'D BE AT THE CANNABIS SMOKE SHOP.
YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS A REFERENCE FROM THE SMOKE SHOP AT THAT POINT.
BUT YOU COULD BUY A VAPE PEN THAT DISPENSES CANNABIS.
SHOPS AS SOON AS YOU SELL ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES.
SO, AS COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER SAID OF A VAPE PEN.
BOTTOM LINE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO CAPTURE IN THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE CANNABIS SHOPS WHERE THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF STATUTORY FRAMEWORK. LONG STORY SHORT, SHOULD WE CROSS OUT THE CANNABIS FROM THE DEFINITION OF E-CIGARETTES SO WE KEEP IT AT TOBACCO AND NICOTINE? SURE, THAT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST SOLUTION.
IF THAT'S EASIER. BUT OTHERWISE IF YOU SAY THAT, DOES THAT MEAN YOU COULD THEN SELL PENS SPECIFICALLY FOR CANNABIS, BUT NOT THE CANNABIS, AND IT'S NOT COVERED BY ORDINANCE.
SURE. IF YOU COULD BUY A PIPE AND THEN GO TO THE CIGARETTE STORE.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO JUST REMOVE THE WORD CANNABIS HERE.
WELL OR PERHAPS THE WAY IT'S DEFINED RIGHT NOW IN THE ORDINANCE, E-CIGARETTE SHALL INCLUDE AN INHALER OR ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO VAPORIZE A LIQUID SOLUTION THAT CAUSES THE INHALATION OF SMOKE VAPOR, ETC..
SHOULD WE SAY E-CIGARETTES SHALL MEAN AN ELECTRONIC DEVICE INHALER MEANT TO SIMULATE SMOKING THAT USES A HEATING ELEMENT, ETC. FOR NICOTINE. NO, NO, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT BROAD ENOUGH SO THAT IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, I'M JUST BUYING THIS, YOU KNOW, VAPE JUICE THAT THEY'RE USUALLY GETTING AT, LIKE AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THAT'S ILLEGAL STUFF THAT WHO KNOWS WHAT IN IT.
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VAPE JUICE. THAT IS SOMETHING OTHER THAN NICOTINE? CORRECT? OR IS THAT SYNTHETIC TOBACCO. IT'S. OH, YEAH, I GUESS.OKAY. DO YOU THINK. NICOTINE, SYNTHETIC TOBACCO.
ANYTHING ELSE? AND THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH TWO YEARS FROM NOW, AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OH, WELL, WE'RE SELLING THESE THINGS.
WHEN I WAS DOING STUFF FOR THE LEGISLATIVE GROUP FOR CALIFORNIA STATE PTA.
WE WERE DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO COVER THE ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THAT? IT'S A IT'S A FAIR POINT. CANNABIS IS ALREADY BARRED FROM BEING SOLD IN SMOKE SHOPS.
AND TO KEEP ANY TO KEEP OUR CANNABIS ORDINANCE FROM BLEEDING INTO THE TOBACCO ORDINANCE CAN AND SHOULD WE SAY E-CIGARETTE SHALL MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EXCLUDING CANNABIS? SURE. RIGHT. SO IF YOU'LL RED LINE CANNABIS OUT, WHICH I DID THERE, AND IF THE REST OF IT WORKS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL HERE. WHEN THIS COMES BACK, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS OF THE EXISTING DRAFT PROVISION THAT THAT ACTUALLY ARE EXPANSIVE THAT WE MAY WANT TO KEEP, BUT WE MAY WANT TO BUILD ON THE MORE ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLES THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR PROPOSAL.
SO I THINK YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM THERE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THIS PROVISION. UPDATE IT EXCLUDE CANNABIS SINCE IT'S ALREADY REGULATED.
RIGHT. YEAH. AND I'LL ALSO SAY I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE MAP THAT THAT HAD ALL THE CIRCLES.
THAT DEFINITELY WAS FAR MORE USEFUL THAN THE OKAY, THE TABLE, THE TABLE, THE SPREADSHEET, THE TABLE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES AS WELL. SO THE MAP, YOU CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT AND YOU CAN SEE DISTANCES FROM PARKS AND SCHOOLS, THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT.
AND THAT WAS IT FOR ME FOR WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT.
GREAT. SO YOU CAN UNSHARE IF YOU'D LIKE. TO USE IT.
I DID. THE SAME SLIDE. I DIDN'T GET OUT OF IT.
WELL, WE WELL, WE WERE ON OTHER VISUAL DISPLAYS.
SO WE'RE BACK TO SLIDE. YEAH. SO I THINK WE COVERED THIS A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, YEAH. THIS SLIDE REALLY JUST COVERS THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE FOR ANY BUSINESS SELLING TOBACCO PRODUCTS, WHETHER IT BE A GAS STATION SMOKE SHOP, SUPERMARKET.
THE CITY REQUIRES A TOBACCO RETAIL PERMIT OR LICENSE.
I'M REFERRED TO AS A TPR IN THE STAFF REPORT.
WHAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REGULATE SMOKE SHOPS.
THIS PROCESS IS WITHIN A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
IT'S UNDER SANITATION AND HEALTH, AND IT'S A LOCAL PROCESS.
NOT EVERY CITY ISSUES A PERMIT. SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SALE TOBACCO.
BUT WE DO TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE IT. THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE ANY CUP.
OR THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF STATE LICENSING TO SELL TOBACCO THAT WOULD BE FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND FEE ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT'S THE AGENCY THAT WOULD ISSUE THAT LICENSE.
THERE'S ALSO AN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS LAID OUT IN THIS SECTION OF THE CODE, WHICH IS IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER ENFORCEMENT SECTIONS WE HAVE IN THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE OR ELSEWHERE, AND THAT IN THE PROCESS IT IDENTIFIES FOR VIOLATIONS, THERE'S A SUSPENSION PROCESS WILL LEAD TO REVOCATION.
I THINK IT'S ON THE THIRD VIOLATION. SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE BETWEEN THIS AND THE ORDINANCE, SEVERAL ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO ENFORCE AGAINST THESE BUSINESSES.
AND THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE LICENSE BE RENEWED ANNUALLY, AND IT'S STATED IN THE CODE THAT THIS WOULD BE USED AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE BUSINESS OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CAPTAIN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE HISTORY ON ENFORCEMENT OF THESE BUSINESSES, AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION AFTER THAT. HOPEFULLY YOU DO HAVE SOME JOKES IN THIS. SORRY.
I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS STRAIGHTFORWARD. I'LL BE QUICK TOO.
SO IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WE STARTED RECEIVING SOME COMPLAINTS REGARDING SOME OF THE SMOKE SHOPS SELLING FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND TO TOBACCO PRODUCTS THAT CONTAIN THC. SO WE CONTACTED THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND FEE ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO COME OUT AND DO A COUPLE OF INSPECTIONS FOR
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US. TWO LOCATIONS, THE 2400 BLOCK OF 190TH STREET AND THE 2200 BLOCK OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD.DURING THEIR INSPECTIONS, THEY SEIZED FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
ILLEGAL CANNABIS PRODUCTS AND ITEMS THAT ARE ALL PROHIBITED UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW.
SO THOSE CASES WERE ALL HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY THE CDTFA, AND I DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS.
WE COULD TRY TO FIND OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF ANY FINES THAT THE BUSINESSES RECEIVED.
IN APRIL OF 2025, USING GUIDELINES UNDER OUR OWN RBMC SECTIONS 5.9-205 AND 5.9-0.208. OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CONDUCTED INSPECTIONS AT 15 SMOKE SHOPS IN THE CITY.
WE ISSUED SEVEN CORRECTION NOTICES FOR BUSINESSES THAT HAD FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS FOR SALE.
ONE BUSINESS, LOCATED IN THE 2700 BLOCK OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD, DID NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND THAT BUSINESS WAS ORDERED TO CLOSE IMMEDIATELY, WHICH IT DID, AND IT STILL REMAINS CLOSED TODAY.
THEN LAST MONTH, IN JULY, JULY 16TH, AFTER A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS A RESIDENT WHO CAME AND MENTIONED THAT HE HAD PURCHASED SOME ITEMS AT SOME STORES IN THE CITY. CODE ENFORCEMENT WENT OUT TO THREE LOCATIONS.
THAT SAME WEEK, TWO LOCATIONS WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ILLEGAL PRODUCTS FOR SALE.
ONE DID, AND THEY WERE ISSUED A CORRECTION NOTICE.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CONDUCT OUR INSPECTIONS AND ANY BUSINESS THAT'S ALREADY RECEIVED A CORRECTION NOTICE WILL START TO RECEIVE EITHER A CITATION OR A COMPLAINT.
CAN WE PULL THEIR LICENSES EVENTUALLY? NOT UNTIL WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE.
NO. THIS IS. SO IF THERE WERE BASED ON THE CORRECTION NOTICES, YOU CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS TO SUSPEND THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE AN ACTUAL CONVICTION BEFORE WE DO THAT.
BUT TECHNICALLY WE COULD TRY AND IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HEARING.
OKAY. AND HOW IS IT THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BUY THIS STUFF, AND YOU DON'T FIND IT ON AN INSPECTION THERE? ARE WE NOT INSPECTING THOROUGHLY? HOW DO YOU DO AN INSPECTION? SO THE MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION THAT AUTHORIZES US TO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS.
IT'S LET'S SEE, 5-9.208, SUBSECTION TWO. IT SAYS DURING BUSINESS HOURS, ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENTER ANY PLACE OF BUSINESS FOR WHICH A PERMIT IS REQUIRED BY THIS CHAPTER FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING REASONABLE INSPECTIONS TO OBSERVE AND ENFORCE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER AN ANY OTHER APPLICABLE REGULATION, LAW OR STATUTES.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THE BACKROOMS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT STOCK MERCHANDISE AT THIS POINT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEFINED REASONABLE AS WHAT'S ON DISPLAY FOR SALE.
SO WE CAN TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SEE IF WE WANT TO GO FURTHER.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, IS JUST CHECKING THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE OUT.
THE CANINES THAT WOULD LOVE TO GO IN THE BACK.
AND WHY IS IT JUST TO REFRESH? WHY IS THAT THE APPROACH THAT'S BEING TAKEN? JUST SHELF VISIBLE ONLY FOR INSPECTIONS, JUST BASED ON THE WORD REASONABLE.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHETHER WE CAN YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO CLEAR DEFINITION AS TO WHAT IS.
WE CAN INSPECT. IT SAYS WE CAN GO IN AND DO A REASONABLE INSPECTION.
AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR REASONABLE INSPECTION IS WHAT'S BASED ON WHAT WE SEE ON THE SHELVES OUT IN PUBLIC VIEW THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE THAT CAN WALK IN TO MAKE A PURCHASE BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE ON THE SHELVES. OKAY. THAT'S NO WONDER WE'RE NOT CATCHING THEM. IF YOU GET A COMPLAINT OR A NOTICE FROM A RESIDENT THAT SAYS, HEY, I BOUGHT THIS AT THIS STORE, DOES THAT GIVE POLICE MORE LATITUDE? TO SAY A REASONABLE INSPECTION IS TO LOOK INTO YOUR STORE ROOM IS TO SEND SOMEBODY IN AND ON A STING AND SAY, HEY, CAN I SEE YOUR SPECIAL MENU OR WHATEVER THE THING IS THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE US, THAT ARE NARCS.
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BECAUSE IF THEY SELL ANY KIND OF FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS, IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.SO WE NEED ANYONE WE CAN SEND ADULTS IN THERE.
WE CAN SEND OUR UNDERCOVER DETECTIVES IN THERE IF THEY'RE PURCHASING FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
YES, SIR. AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT? YES, SIR.
AND IT'S IN DISCUSSION TO HAVE THAT DONE WITH OUR DETECTIVE UNIT.
ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, IN THE CITY COUNCIL DO TO HELP ENCOURAGE THAT? WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST NOW THAT IT'S BEEN RAISED, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD.
WELL, I MEAN, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD WAY FOR YOU TO POLICE IN GENERAL TO DISCOVER WHETHER OR NOT A SHOP IS SELLING PROHIBITED ITEMS TO DO A DETAILED UNDERCOVER BUY? IT WOULD HELP IF I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION THESE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT BUSINESS OWNER IS CALLING THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS.
IT'S POSSIBLE. QUITE LIKELY. BUT IF WE WERE TO DO AN UNDERCOVER STING WHERE WE SEND IN A PLAINCLOTHES OFFICER DETECTIVE AND MAKE A PURCHASE OF PRODUCTS THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SELLING, THEN WE HAVE A PRETTY STRONG CASE.
AND I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY. WE'LL CONFER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CHARGES COULD BE FILED, AND ALSO WHAT ADDITIONAL SEARCHING WE CAN DO.
WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TRAMPLE ON ANYBODY'S RIGHTS.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT IS ADVISABLE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY START TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER, IT'S SENDING A SIGNAL THAT WE ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY AND NOT ALLOW ANY ILLEGAL PRODUCTS IN REDONDO BEACH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CITY ATTORNEY WHAT DO YOU NEED FOR CONVICTION MATERIAL OR OTHERWISE THAT IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RESULT IN THESE SUSPENSIONS AND EVENTUAL LICENSE REVOKED.
WELL, A REPORT THAT A VIOLATION WAS COMMITTED.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? EXACTLY. AN UNDERCOVER BUY WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE SUFFICIENT FOR THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CODE IN TERMS OF IF THE PRODUCT IS JUST THERE BEING AVAILABLE FOR SALE, IF THAT IS A VIOLATION. AND THERE IS A FINE LINE BETWEEN WHAT NEEDS TO BE COVERED BY AN INSPECTION WARRANT AND WHAT IS A REASONABLE INSPECTION. SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME RESEARCH.
RIGHT. I STOPPED IN. YEAH. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN TERMS OF INSPECTION, I THINK FOR A RETAIL STORE, IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SEARCH THEIR INVENTORY AND STORAGE AREA OF MATERIAL THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT ON THE SHELVES, NOT JUST THE RETAIL FRONT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO AND FROM A POLICING ENFORCEMENT, IT'S PROBABLY, IN TERMS OF MANPOWER, EASIER TO DO AN INSPECTION VERSUS INDIVIDUAL UNDERCOVER STING OPERATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD OUR INSPECTORS GO IN, MAYBE EVEN WITH A DOG, JUST TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH THEIR STORAGE AREA IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE SHELF, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE EFFECTIVE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE RETAIL FRONT.
THE RIGHT. RIGHTS. YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL.
I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'LL WE'LL LOOK TO SEE WHAT DEFINITIONS WE INCLUDE IN THE NEW SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE AS IT PERTAINS TO ENFORCEMENT, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MORE CLEAR AND EXPANSIVE INSPECTION.
RIGHT. THERE MIGHT EVEN BE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE CUPS THAT WE'RE ISSUING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO IT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE. ARE THERE DOGS THAT SNIFF OUT THIS KIND OF STUFF? OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, NONE OF OUR CANINES ARE CROSS-TRAINED FOR NARCOTICS.
THEY'RE ALL TRAINED FOR BOMB DETECTION, AND IT'S EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY NARCOTICS TRAINED DOGS. WE'VE MOVED.
I MEAN, WE'VE LARGELY MOVED AWAY FROM NARCOTICS SERVICE DOGS.
WE DON'T. WE'VE BEEN MORE. WE'VE BEEN MORE IN THE VAPOR WAY BOMB DETECTION.
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AGAIN, WE HAVE TO KEEP SOME OF THIS IN PERSPECTIVE THERE.THIS I KNOW THIS FEELS LIKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.
AND ENFORCEMENT IS IMPORTANT HERE. THERE ARE OTHER FOCUSES OF THE DEPARTMENT AS IT PERTAINS TO OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU KNOW, MIGHT OCCUPY SOME OF THEIR TIME. SO WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY MOVED AWAY FROM NARCOTICS DOGS AS PART OF OUR SERVICE INVENTORY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING DINGED BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CANNABIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK WE CAN ENFORCE WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS TODAY FOR THE SHOPS THAT THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING CANNABIS PRODUCTS AND ILLEGAL PRODUCTS.
AND I SPOKE WITH CHIEF KAUFFMAN BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT HAVING WHAT THE DOGS COULD DO, AND CAN THEY DETECT VAPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND HE SAID IT WAS IT'S VERY SPECIALIZED. SO YOU COULD HAVE A DOG THAT CAN FIND MARIJUANA, BUT IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND A CBD. I UNDERSTAND.
CBD VAPE SO. I'M NOT ADVOCATING GETTING DOGS.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR WAYS. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING I HEARD WHEN I WAS WALKING.
THIS ISN'T JUST BECAUSE WE BROUGHT UP CANNABIS.
PEOPLE ARE LIKE, HEY, MY FRIEND CAME INTO TOWN, WENT RIGHT DOWN TO A FIRST CIGARETTE SHOP, SMOKE SHOP, BOUGHT CANNABIS LIKE EVERYBODY. AND YET, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE'RE DOING THESE INSPECTIONS WHEN WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON THE SHELF, WHEN WE KNOW THIS IS ALL UNDER THE SHELF STUFF NOBODY'S GOING TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THAT STUPID THAT THEY HAVE IT ON THE SHELF THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS ANYWAY, RIGHT? THE MAYOR'S POINT'S WELL TAKEN. WE'VE I'VE HEARD THE SAME THING, AND I'VE HEARD IT IN CONNECTION WITH CANNABIS.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. TAKE CARE OF THE SMOKE SHOPS.
AND SO WE COULD PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S A BALANCE FOR ENFORCEMENT.
MAKES IT EASIER. THEN WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT, DETAILS, UNDERCOVER BUYS AGGRESSIVE LEGAL AND TAKE CARE OF THE JOB. THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR ASKING ABOUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS, SO TO SPEAK. SO I MEAN, I'M CONFIDENT IT COULD BE DONE.
I'M CONFIDENT IN EVERYBODY WHO'S UP HERE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE LET'S GET THAT DONE.
21 JUMP STREET, WHATEVER THAT WAS, AND BE 23 BY NOW.
AND IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S DISCOVERED THROUGH INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS, THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE AND TAKE ACTION AND WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR CAN GET THE RESULTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MORE POWER THAN EVER IF WE'RE ESTABLISHING A SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE, IF YOU HAVE ONE VIOLATION NOW, YOU AIN'T GETTING YOUR CUP, SO YOU'RE OUT. MAYOR.
WE WANT THEM TO CATCH THE ROBBERS ON SATURDAY NIGHT, AND WE WANT THEM TO ENFORCE MONDAY MORNING.
SORRY. AND WE WANT THAT. AND WE WANT THEM TO ENFORCE, YOU KNOW, EVERY VIOLATION OF EVERY SMOKE SHOP.
WE ARE GOING TO COME UP TO A NEGOTIATION WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION LATER THIS YEAR.
THAT IS CRITICAL TO BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT AT A TIME WHEN RECRUITMENT TO POLICE IS CHALLENGING.
THE MORE POLICE OFFICERS WE HAVE THAT STANDS TO REASON.
THE MORE WORK THEY CAN GET DONE. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO HALT A REVENUE GENERATOR THAT'S BEEN EIGHT YEARS IN THE MAKING TO SAY, HEY, SPEND MORE MONEY ON ENFORCING AGAINST SMOKE SHOPS BEFORE WE PASS THIS CANNABIS ORDINANCE.
WITH THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE RELUCTANCE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE ELECTED THREE MONTHS AGO, FOUR MONTHS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO AND WHO HAVEN'T BEEN ALONG FOR THE EIGHT YEAR RIDE.
AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT GOING OUT FOR A SURVEY AND GETTING A TRUE, ACCURATE PULSE ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS THINK ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT TOTALLY STOPPING TO SAY, HEY, PUSH HARDER ON SMOKE SHOPS AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHETHER WE GET THIS REVENUE GENERATOR.
JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL.
THANKS. THANK YOU. WELL, MOVING FORWARD ON THAT, THAT WAS JUST PASSED EARLIER.
SO I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP.
CAN WE INCLUDE SYNTHETIC TOBACCO? SYNTHETIC FLAVORED TOBACCO IN HERE?
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I THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT I ONLY SAW FLAVORED TOBACCO.BUT SYNTHETIC FLAVORED TOBACCO IS NOT INCLUDED.
OH, I THOUGHT OUR DEFINITION. I THINK I THOUGHT OUR DEFINITION HAD THAT.
WELL, I'M TRYING TO THINK DID MINE. I THINK THAT'S ALREADY PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW.
SO I BELIEVE AND I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY.
WE COULD JUST CHECK ON IT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BOTH.
YEAH. WE CAN. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THAT.
YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN CHECK ON IT. AND IF AND IF IT'S NOT CLEARLY INCLUDED IN OUR DEFINITIONS.
YEAH. FLAVORED TOBACCO. SYNTHETIC FLAVORED. I FEEL LIKE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT, AND WE DETERMINED THAT THE STATE RULE INCLUDED BOTH.
AS LONG AS IT'S INCLUDED, I'M FINE. I JUST I DON'T WANT TO FORGET THAT.
YEAH. WELL, I WILL KIND OF TAKE A SWIPE AT SOME DIRECTION GOING FORWARD. AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE, DID YOU WANT TO.
I DID HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM. IF WE COULD IN THE ADMIN REPORT, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING OR REQUESTING THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR SMOKE SHOPS BE REDUCED FROM OPENING AT 8 A.M.
TO 10 A.M.. AND THE REASON STATED WAS SO THE SMOKE SHOPS WON'T BE OPEN BEFORE SCHOOL HOURS.
AND I HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT ONLY BECAUSE SCHOOLS START AT 8:30 A.M.. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE INTENTION OF OPENING REQUIRING OPENING NO EARLIER THAN 10 A.M. WAS SO THAT SCHOOL KIDS WOULDN'T BE THERE.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE STARTING AT 8:30 A.M.
AND YOU KNOW, CAN WE EVEN DO THAT? LIKE, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WOULD A BUSINESS OWNER SAY, WHY AM I BEING SINGLED OUT EVERY OTHER BUSINESS ON THE STREET GETS OPEN AT 8:30 A.M..
THERE'S NO REASONABLE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I'M GETTING HURT. ANYWAY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S HERE.
SO OUR CANNABIS ORDINANCE HAS HOURS STARTING AT 9 A.M..
AND THE RESOLUTION FOR THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE DOES SAY THAT THE STATE ALLOWS LOCAL CITIES TO REGULATE BUSINESSES. SO IT WOULD IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO DEFEND THIS 10 A.M.
FOR SMOKE SHOPS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE.
AND EVEN IN OUR MASSAGE PARLOR ORDINANCE, WE DON'T RESTRICT THE HOURS.
AND WE ADD A WHEREAS IN THE RESOLUTION AS TO WHY WE'RE DOING THAT.
SO 8 A.M. 8:30 WHICH WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO WEEKDAYS. RIGHT. SCHOOL. YEAH. I THINK IF IT'S IF THAT IS THE REASON FOR SCHOOL, THEN AS LONG AS YOU STATE THE REASON FOR IT, AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN MAKE IT TO SCHOOL HOURS, THE BETTER.
BUT I DON'T SEE WHY 9 A.M. WOULD BE UNREASONABLE.
SHOULD WE KEEP IT AT 8 A.M.? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING DOCUMENTED OR.
I MEAN, MOST KIDS ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TO SCHOOL ON TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.
YEAH, RIGHT. SO I THINK WE I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS COUNCILMAN IF I'M RIGHT, IS SHOULD WE EVEN REALLY BE WORRIED ABOUT LINKING IT TO SCHOOL HOURS? YEAH, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO SETTLE ON AN HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO MOST BUSINESSES UNDER MOST CUPS.
YES. ET CETERA. YEAH GOOD IDEA. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I AGREE I THINK 10:00 A.M.
OKAY. WHICH WE CLEARLY CAN'T DO. SO I MEAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING IT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AND JUST HAVING IT, WHATEVER THE HOURS ARE IN THE CUP. CUP I THINK THAT'S THE BETTER PLACE FOR IT, PROBABLY.
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I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED. THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING THAT I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE PAGE FOR TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.
IT TALKS ABOUT SMOKE SHOPS ARE PROHIBITED IN ANY INDUSTRIAL, PUBLIC, ETC., ETC.
OR WITHIN ANY COASTAL COMMERCIAL ZONES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE COASTAL COMMERCIAL ZONES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WEST SIDE OF PCH AN MY ENTIRE DISTRICT AND.
COASTAL COMMERCIAL ZONES JUST DOWN IN THE HARBOR.
IT'S JUST THE CC, IT'S JUST THE CC THREE ZONE, WHICH.
OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN THE CANNABIS ORDINANCE. IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL TO SMOKE.
YEAH, RIGHT. OKAY, THEN NO WORRIES. ALL DONE.
OKAY. BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC WHO WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION, I THINK.
WELL. DIRECTION. OR DIRECTION? YEAH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.
AND I THINK WHAT I'M, THERE WAS ENOUGH DISCUSSION TONIGHT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK WITH PROBABLY AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING INTRODUCTION. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A CLEAN DRAFT WITH THE CHANGES AND PROVISIONS.
GIVE YOU ALL A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN INTRODUCE IT FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.
I'LL JUST READ THROUGH SOME OF THESE AND IF I MISSED SOMETHING OR I'M OFF LET ME KNOW.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT CLEAR ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.
I KNOW WE CAN REVISIT THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, BECAUSE I ASSUME THAT THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION, AND THAT'S JUST A NUMBER THAT WILL BE CHANGING WHEN WE HEAR IT BACK.
BUFFER ZONES. THE 600FT FROM HIGH SCHOOLS, YOUTH CENTERS AND FROM OTHER SMOKE SHOPS.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER AND OBAGI MENTIONED, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SPECIFICALLY STATED WITH ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW, NOT JUST WITH SIGNAGE, BUT DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE CUP.
AND THEN. PREVENT THE GLARING LIGHTS AND. LIGHTING IS A PROBLEM.
AND THEN BEING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITION OF ANCILLARY IS, I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. I THINK THAT'S THOSE ARE THE BIG THINGS AND SYNTHETIC CLARIFICATION OF THE DEFINITION OF AN E-CIGARETTE.
YEAH. GOT THAT, ETC.. AND THEN THE YOUTH CENTER CLARIFICATION ON THAT MISSION INCLUDING INFRACTION, NOT JUST MISDEMEANOR. WELL, YEAH. THE WOBBLETT.
YOU MENTIONED INSPECTIONS FOR ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, CLARITY ON WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.
YES. WE'LL MOVE HOURS OF OPERATION TO CUP. ANYTHING ELSE MARC? NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY HOURS OF OPERATION. HOURS OF OPERATION.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU DID GREAT. YEAH. [LAUGHTER] YOU ALL DID AMAZING.
THAT'S WHY WE GOT ADVANCE THESE. LET'S HOLD OFF.
WE STILL MAY HAVE DIRECTION. WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. TOM BAKALY AND THEN KAREN FORD CULK.
THANK YOU. GOT TO PUT MY GLASSES ON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WEAVE WOBBLETT INTO MY COMMENTS.
NO. I WANTED TO COME TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE HEALTH DISTRICT AND REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR TACKLING THIS ISSUE, HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, AND THEN ALSO OFFER THE HEALTH DISTRICT AS A RESOURCE.
AND SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
WE KNOW THAT SMOKING IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF PREVENTATIVE DEATH IN THE US.
AND SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT'S THE SINGLE HEALTHIEST THING THEY CAN DO, I SAY STOP SMOKING.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT CAUSES DISEASE AND DISABILITY AND HARMS NEARLY EVERY ORGAN IN THE BODY.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S NO SAFE LEVEL OF SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.
REDONDO BEACH HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SUCCESSFUL TOBACCO CONTROL POLICIES.
IN 2019, THE CITY ESTABLISHED A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSING PROGRAM TO CURB ILLEGAL SALES TO YOUTH AND BAN THE SALE OF FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS HAVE USED. AS YOU HAVE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE THAT ALSO PROHIBITED SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES. AND BECAUSE OF THESE PROGRESSIVE STEPS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN, GALLUP HAS COME IN AND MEASURED THAT THE RESIDENTS OF REDONDO BEACH, ROUGHLY 5% SMOKE, WHICH IS HALF OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
AND SO WE THINK THAT THESE POLICIES THAT YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED HAS IMPACTED THAT.
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WE SUPPORT EFFORTS TO UTILIZE LICENSING EFFORTS TO LIMIT TOBACCO RETAIL.AND APPLAUD THE EFFORT THAT YOU'RE TAKING. WE KNOW THAT AREAS WITH HIGH TOBACCO, TOBACCO, RETAIL DENSITY DOES SHOW AN INCREASED FREQUENCY OF SMOKING.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE THE MORE SHOPS, USUALLY, THE MORE SMOKING.
WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN LOCAL, STATEWIDE AND NATIONAL EFFORTS TO ASSIST WITH SMOKING POLICY.
AND WE WOULD OFFER THAT TO YOU. ALL THE OTHER BEACH CITIES HAVE ALSO LED THE WAY.
IN 2020, HERMOSA BEACH BANNED THE SALE OF ELECTRONIC SMOKING DEVICES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'VE DONE, HAVE NOT HAD LEGAL CHALLENGES THERE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANHATTAN BEACH HAS DONE.
THEY HAVE THEY DID THAT FIVE YEARS AGO AND HAVE NOT HAD CHALLENGES.
SO AS YOU CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT AREAS OF THOUSAND FEET IS ACTUALLY BEST PRACTICES AS DETERMINED BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW CENTER FROM YOUTH LOCATIONS.
AND SO THAT IS A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER.
THEY GAVE RETAILERS. I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR TIME'S UP.
OKAY. THEY GAVE THEM 18 MONTHS TO PREPARE FOR THE TOBACCO BAN.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT CHALLENGED. SO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP YOU AND BE A RESOURCE AS YOU CONSIDER THIS IN THE FUTURE.
YEAH. I APPRECIATE THE OFFER TO HELP. I MEAN, WOULD YOU GUYS MIND TAKING A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND RED LINE IT WITH YOUR COMMENTS. HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND SUBMIT IT TO ALL OF US. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN HERMOSA IS THAT WE COORDINATED PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS REGARDING THIS ISSUE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID FOR HERMOSA BEACH YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING THIS.
SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH THAT AS WELL.
OKAY, THANKS. GREAT. OKAY. KAREN FORD, I CAN'T.
MCCALL. AND THAT'S MY LAST CARD. SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.
I NEED TO PUT THEM ON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LIGHT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M HERE ACTUALLY, ON BEHALF OF THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL OF PTAS.
THE COUNCIL COVERS MEMBERSHIP FROM EVERY UNIT PTA IN REDONDO BEACH.
AND WE VOTED THAT WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR A SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE IN THE CITY.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THE SMOKE SHOPS WERE FOUND SELLING FLAVORED TOBACCO, NICOTINE PRODUCTS AND ILLEGAL CANNABIS PROHIBITED UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW.
SO REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL OF PTAS SEEKS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY YOUTH AGAINST HEALTH RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH TOBACCO USE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS BY PROHIBITING THE SALE, MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION OF FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND E-CIGARETTES, INCLUDING COMPONENTS, ACCESSORIES, AND TOBACCO FLAVORED PRODUCTS FLAVOR ENHANCERS AND ALSO SYNTHETIC AND TOBACCO FREE NICOTINE PRODUCTS. INCLUDING THE COMPONENTS, ACCESSORIES FLAVOR ENHANCERS AND ALL NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS, WHETHER FLAVORED OR UNFLAVORED. THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS LOCAL MEASURES TO RESTRICT THE SALE AND MARKETING OF HEMP DERIVED PRODUCTS CONTAINING PSYCHOACTIVE CANNABINOIDS.
I THINK I'VE SAID THAT RIGHT. OUTSIDE OF THE LEGAL CANNABIS MARKET.
SYNTHETIC CANNABIS AND HEMP DERIVED PRODUCTS WITH PSYCHOACTIVE CANNABINOIDS DESIGNED TO APPEAL TO YOUTH. SO REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL OF PTAS WANTS TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS ORDINANCE.
WE SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE, AND WE URGE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO EFFECTIVELY MONITOR THE BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE IF THE SALE OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO MINORS IS IT IF THE LAW AGAINST THAT IS BEING UPHELD.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE LEFT THAT WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM WITH THE COUNCIL? OKAY. ANYBODY ONLINE? WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE. AND ALSO NO ECOMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.OKAY. BASED ON THAT, IS THERE ANY CHANGE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE THE MIC ON OUR DIRECTION.
STAFF OR? ONE. ONE MORE REQUEST. CAN WE GET A NUMBER OF HOW MANY RETAIL TOBACCO LICENSES WE HAVE? YEAH. NEXT TIME WE TALK. YEAH, WE'LL NEED TO PUT THAT TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.
THIS HAS BEEN QUICK AND GREAT. [APPLAUSE] YOU GUYS DID COME BACK VERY QUICK.
THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
LET'S TALK ABOUT IT MORE. [LAUGHTER] NO, OTHER THAN TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
AND WE'RE COMING UP ON FOUR HOURS. I THINK IT'S OKAY.
OKAY. FOUR. FIVE. ONE FIVE. ZEIN SAYS AYE FOR THE BREAK, TOO.
AYE. I SAID NO. NO. BUT MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.
YEAH, I THOUGHT. COULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT.
HERE. OKAY, SO WE COMPLETED N.2. WE'RE GOING INTO N.3, OUR LAST UNDER THE N'S.
SO THIS IS ABOUT THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM. THE RECOMMENDATION TO ELIMINATE ALL 27 CROSSING GUARDS.
END OF OUR PRESENTATION. JANE'S GOING TO COVER THIS.
YES. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PRESENT THE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
JANE CHUNG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I AM JOINED BY RYAN LIU, THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
AND IN THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE CAPTAIN MARTINEZ AND LIEUTENANT LONG FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDES APPROVAL AND OF AGREEMENT WITH ALL CITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR AS NEEDED CROSSING GUARD SERVICES.
RECEIVE AND FILE INFORMATION REGARDING THE CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS AND CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE NUMBER AND TYPES OF SERVICES TO BE PROGRAMMED IN THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR AND BEYOND. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL GO OVER THE FOLLOWING.
A DISCUSSION ON THE CROSSING GUARD SUBCOMMITTEE, ASSESSMENT OF CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS, AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS CONSIDERED THE AAA SCHOOL SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM.
SO TO BEGIN THE CITY CURRENTLY MAINTAINS 27 CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS, OF WHICH 22 LOCATIONS ARE STAFFED BY CITY EMPLOYEES AND FIVE LOCATIONS ARE STAFFED THROUGH CONTRACTED SERVICES. IN AUGUST 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PILOT PROGRAM AND THAT PURPOSE OF THE TRY AGAIN THE PURPOSE OF THAT PILOT PROGRAM WAS TO SUPPLEMENT CITY STAFFING WITH, AS NEEDED CONTRACT SUPPORT.
THIS APPROACH HELPS MAINTAIN COVERAGE AT ALL 27 LOCATIONS.
SINCE 2021 THE CITY HAS CONTRACTED WITH ALL CITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, OR ACMS, FOR AS NEEDED CROSSING GUARD SERVICES, AND TONIGHT'S AGENDA INCLUDES A PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH ACMS FOR THE 2025 2026 SCHOOL YEAR.
THE CONTRACT HAS A NOT TO EXCEED ESTIMATE OF $138,158, WHICH IS AN HOURLY RATE AS PROPOSED AT $37.81, WITH CHARGES BASED ON ACTUAL HOURS WORKED.
AT THE SAME MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO PREPARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POTENTIAL CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS TO VACATE IF ACMS REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE INDEMNITY TERMS. ON AUGUST 13TH, THE DAY AFTER THE CROSSING GUARD SUBCOMMITTEE MET, THE CROSSING GUARD SUBCOMMITTEE OR SUBCOMMITTEE INCLUDES TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AT THIS MEETING, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE, DATA DRIVEN REVIEW OF ALL 27 LOCATIONS.
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WITH THAT SAID, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO RYAN LIU, OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WHO WILL PRESENT THE FINDINGS AND THE DISCUSSIONS BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE.WE ALSO CONSIDERED THE OTHER FOLLOWING INFORMATION, SUCH AS THE NUMBER OF LANES THAT ENTER THE INTERSECTION THAT SPEAKS TO THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY OR WIDTH OF THE STREET. IF ANY STREET THAT'S APPROACHING THIS CROSSING GUARD, LOCATION HAS A SPEED LIMIT ABOVE 25 MILES PER HOUR, WHICH COULD SIGNIFY THAT CARS ARE TRAVELING FASTER THAN THE SCHOOL ZONE, 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, AND WHETHER ANY APPROACHING STREET HAS MORE THAN ONE THROUGH LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AGAIN, LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY AT AN INTERSECTION THAT A CHILD HAS TO UNDERSTAND TO CROSS, WHETHER AN INTERSECTION HAS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR IS UNCONTROLLED, WHERE CHILD HAS TO LOOK FOR GAPS IN TRAFFIC WHERE DRIVERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY COMPELLED TO STOP.
THERE'S ALSO IN THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS, ON WHETHER AN ADULT CROSSING GUARD COULD BE RECOMMENDED.
EVERY INTERSECTION IN THE CITY HAS A BIT OF A DIFFERENT STORY.
DIFFERENT LAND USES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONTROL.
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST CRITERIA THAT ARE THAT IS CODIFIED IN LAWS, BUT ALSO JUST OUR ON THE GROUND KNOWLEDGE, THE DAY TO DAY WORK THAT WE DO. THIS CHART HERE LISTS ALL OF THE CITY'S EXISTING CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS.
THE COLUMNS THAT ARE IN GREEN ARE THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN VOLUMES DARKER GREEN SIGNIFIES A RELATIVELY HIGHER BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN VOLUME THAN OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. THE NEXT COLUMN IN RED, DARKER RED, MEANS THAT THERE ARE MORE VEHICLES ARRIVING AT THAT INTERSECTION DURING THAT STUDY PERIOD, AS WELL AS FOR A NUMBER OF LANES APPROACHING HEAVIER RED INDICATES THAT THIS INTERSECTION JUST HAS MORE COMPLEXITY, MORE LANES THAT COULD COME IN CONFLICT WITH A CROSSWALK.
AND AS STATED, THE OTHER CRITERIA ARE TO THE RIGHT, SUCH AS A MULTILINGUAL STREET APPROACH, SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION SPEED LIMITS ABOVE 25 AND DOESN'T MEET SUGGESTED CRITERIA FOR IN THE CALIFORNIA MUTCD CITY FOR AN ADULT CROSSING GUARD. SO WE LOOKED AT ALL THESE LOCATIONS AND CAME UP WITH ABOUT 12 LOCATIONS THAT WE THOUGHT ARE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THE AAA SCHOOL SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM.
ALL OF THESE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE PUT AS YES ARE ALL-WAYS STOPS AND ARE RELATIVELY LOWER CAR VOLUME AND LOWER NUMBER OF LANES APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION.
THESE ARE INTERSECTIONS THAT, COMPARED TO OTHERS ON THE LIST, ARE EASIER TO DECIPHER, UNDERSTAND, AND CROSS FOR OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN. HERE ARE THE 12 LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. IS THIS A DIFFERENT DATA COLLECTION FOR THE BRR? YES. IT'S BEYOND. IT'S AN EXPANSION OF THE BRR COLLECTION.
AND WE ALSO RAN IT THROUGH JUST THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE INTERSECTION NUMBER OF LANES.
YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MUTCD, WHICH GIVES US SORT OF THAT LEGAL COMFORT OF WHETHER ADULT GUARD IS WARRANTED OR SUGGESTED. AND SO THESE 12 LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE THAT COULD BE CANDIDATES FOR THE SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAM.
AND DID THAT COUNT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ACCOMPANIED STUDENTS? OR IT WAS JUST PEDESTRIANS. THERE WAS A MARKER FOR A COMPANY, BUT I DID.
I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS AND I THINK. THAT WAS IN THE BRR.
IT IS. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCOMPANIED YOU KNOW, ME, FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS WALKING MY KIDS TO SCHOOL TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN THEY WERE SMALL IN PREPARATION FOR THEM TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.
SO YOU FIGURED THAT'S A TRANSIENT? IT'S A PROGRESSION, RIGHT? OKAY. THANKS. SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING. ALL RIGHT.
SO THANK YOU, RYAN. SO AS RYAN MENTIONED, THE 12 LOCATIONS ARE IDENTIFIED WHERE THOSE CONSIDERED WITH THE LOWEST NEED AND ALSO POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR THE AAA SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAM, OR I'LL REFER TO AS A AAA PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.
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TYPICALLY OUR FIFTH TO EIGHTH GRADERS ARE CONSIDERED PATROLLERS, AND THEY HELP CLASSMATES SAFELY NAVIGATE SCHOOL AREAS.PATROLLERS ARE ALWAYS ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT DURING THEIR SHIFTS TO ENSURE SAFETY, AND THE PROGRAM HAS A STRONG TRACK RECORD OF IMPROVING SAFETY AND AS WELL AS FOSTERING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP AMONG STUDENTS.
NOTABLY, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE 12 LOCATIONS ARE IDENTIFIED AS THOSE WITH THE LOWEST NEED CAN SERVE AS POTENTIAL SITES, AND THE PROGRAM DOES REQUIRE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE.
THEREFORE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE PLANS TO FORMALLY ENGAGE WITH THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROPOSE A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP AND OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPLEMENT THE AAA PROGRAM HERE IN REDONDO BEACH. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING I COULD ADD FOR THE AAA SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM, IS THAT I ACTUALLY FOUND OUT THAT IN THE CALIFORNIA MUTCD, WHICH GOVERNS OUR PUBLIC ROADWAYS.
IT DOES HAVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND STANDARDS FOR THE SCHOOL SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM, WHICH FROM MY PERSPECTIVE GIVES ME COMFORT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS PRESCRIBED IN A STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL DOCUMENT, THAT IT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS WORTH PURSUING.
ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF PRESENTS FOUR OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TONIGHT, THE FIRST THREE OF WHICH WILL REQUIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT COLLABORATION.
BY THE VERY NATURE THAT THE AAA PROGRAM DOES REQUIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO WORK WITH THEM.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE A MODERATE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AAA PROGRAM, OR FIVE FROM THE 12 SITES WOULD SERVE AS PILOT SITES AT THE START OF THE 2026, 2027 SCHOOL YEAR. IF SUCCESSFUL, THE SCHOOL ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE SITES AND COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CITY FUNDING CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS FROM 27 TO 22, WHICH WOULD ALSO MATCH THE NUMBER OF CITY EMPLOYED CROSSING GUARDS.
OPTION THREE WOULD BE A PHASED AND EXPANDED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM, WHERE THE PROGRAM WOULD BE PILOTED AT HALF OF THE 12 LOCATIONS IN THE 2026, 2027 SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN EXPANDED TO THE REMAINING 12 IN THE FOLLOWING 2027 2028 SCHOOL YEAR.
AND LASTLY, OPTION FOUR IF CITY FUNDING REMAINS CONSTRAINED ENTERING THE 2026 2027 FISCAL YEAR, CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER REDUCING STAFF CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS, FOCUSING ON THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING THE LOWEST NEED.
SO THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY. THE FIRST THREE, AT LEAST AREN'T MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
THEY COULD BE BUILDING ON EACH OTHER PHASES. CORRECT.
AND YOU COULD DO THE THE LAST ONE IN CONCERT WITH IMPLEMENTING THE SCHOOL.
YOU COULD STILL ELIMINATE SOME. YES. YES. REALLY, THESE OPTIONS CAN BUILD ON EACH OTHER OR BE IMPLEMENTED AS DISTINCT ITEMS. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, TO CONCLUDE STAFF, THE PRESENTATION STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL CITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, INC. FOR CROSSING GUARD SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $138,158 AND THE TERM AUGUST 19TH, 2025 TO JUNE 30TH, 2026. TO RECEIVE AND FILE INFORMATION ON THE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY THAT RECEIVE CROSSING GUARD SERVICES AND THREE PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON THE NUMBER AND TYPE OF SERVICES TO BE PROGRAMED IN THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR AND BEYOND.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS GOOD WORK.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE LAST ONE PROVIDE DIRECTION.
YOU'VE KIND OF ALREADY SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL. AND THE EARLIEST OPTION ONE OUT OF THAT WAS TO DO THAT EARLY IN 2026, I ASSUME DURING THIS SCHOOL YEAR, SINCE YOU DIDN'T SAY 26, 27.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. WELL, WITH THE IDEA, THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD TARGET, YOU KNOW, EARLY 2026, RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT. BUT PRESUMABLY IF THE DISTRICT WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE AND WE COULD IDENTIFY VOLUNTEERS TO SUSTAIN LOCATIONS MORE QUICKLY THAN THAT, IT COULD HAPPEN MORE SWIFTLY.
I THINK THIS WAS A MORE PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE TIMING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO ENGAGE THE DISTRICT AND THEN I'M NOT SURE, PROVIDING TOTAL DIRECTION. TO ME, IT'S MORE A FACT WE HAVE TO GET MORE FACTS FROM THE SCHOOL, MAYBE PURSUE. RIGHT. OPTION ONE I ASSUME WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADVOCATE SHUTTING ANY DOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE TWO SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS FIRST.
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I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR BRINGING ALL OF THAT VERY OBJECTIVE DATA.
IT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND IN GOING THROUGH THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT THE SUBJECTIVE PART OF IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THERE. I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT CROSSING GUARDS BEING, YOU KNOW, RENEE'S MY CROSSING GUARD.
MY KIDS KNOW RENEE. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL SEE THEM.
ONE WILL PASS BY AND SHE'LL TELL ME THE OTHER ONE HAD LEFT LIKE FIVE MINUTES AGO.
SO THAT CONNECTION, THAT TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MEASURE.
AND SO WE DO NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE MENTIONED WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME SCHOOLS INDICATED ON THAT THAT DATA SET THAT WAS PRESENTED MAY WITH THOSE 12 NOTED SPACES, MAYBE ELIMINATING AN ENTIRE SCHOOL'S CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM.
I MEAN, 100 YEARS OF THAT BEING IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
AND WE DID HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOKED AT IT.
THAT WE COULD FIND. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING.
THAT WE HADN'T MENTIONED THE ESTEEMED ALUMNI OF THE PROGRAM TO SITTING TO MY RIGHT AND TO MY LEFT.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE HERE TODAY WITH.
I MEAN, I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT IN DIVING INTO THIS WITH ME.
OUR POLICE RYAN TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, WE'VE DONE A LOT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO MORE.
THERE'S TWO THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO EVALUATE AND CREATE A POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF IMPLEMENTING CROSSING GUARDS GOING FORWARD AND THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT ON THE DAIS AND OUTSIDE THE DAIS IN ADDING ANY CROSSING GUARDS.
IT SEEMS THAT MAYBE WE COULD SAY CROSSING GUARD CREEP HAS HAPPENED OVER DECADES.
I MEAN, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS PROGRAM FOR OVER 50 YEARS THAT I CAN TRACK BACK.
SO IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT ADDS SIGNIFICANT VALUE.
SO I'M HAPPY WE HAVE IT. I WANT TO USE IT IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WAY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STRUCTURE FROM WHAT WE. WHAT RYAN, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, HAD FOUND.
ALSO, YOU YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD. WE NEED TO.
THE NEXT STEPS REALLY DICTATE HOW WE ENGAGE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SUPPORT THEM IN A AAA PROGRAM. I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF PROMISE.
IT SEEMS LIKE A WIN WIN WIN LIKE FOR THE CITY, FOR STUDENTS, FOR THE DISTRICT TO HAVE STUDENTS BE IN THOSE LEADERSHIP ROLES AND YOU KNOW, BEING HONORED BY THE CITY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS A GREAT WAY TO EMPOWER STUDENTS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP WITH THEIR PEERS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISE THERE.
SO I DO THINK THE NEXT STEP IS NOT NECESSARILY PICKING ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS, BUT ENGAGING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FOSTERING THAT AND SEE WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE. WHAT ABOUT THE CONTRACT? IN APPROVING THE CONTRACT TONIGHT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE BUDGETED ALREADY AND I THINK WE TAKE THIS TIME THIS FISCAL YEAR TO PREPARE OURSELVES AND THE DISTRICT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR WHATEVER CHANGES ARE COMING.
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OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. ANYTHING TO ADD OR A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE? WELL, MAYOR, I WOULD JUST SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC JUST SAID, INCLUDING HER RECOGNITION OF LIEUTENANT LONG AND CAPTAIN MARTINEZ WHO ARE HERE, AS WELL AS OUR TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER, RYAN LIU. I THOUGHT JANE CHUNG DID A WONDERFUL JOB THROUGHOUT.AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS SAID. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME ADDITIONAL TOPICS, IF I MAY, WE COULD HAVE COME OUT HERE TONIGHT, I THINK DUE TO THE GOOD WORK OF IN THE PROFESSIONAL INPUT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PD AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT FIVE LOCATIONS THAT WE THINK WE CAN AND SHOULD ELIMINATE NOW.
RIGHT. IT'S A NEW SCHOOL YEAR. THERE'S NOT AS MUCH POTENTIALLY OF AN EXPECTATION OF, HEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CROSSING GUARD HERE WHEN YOU HAVE NEW PEOPLE COMING TO SCHOOL.
RIGHT. THIS KIND OF PRESENTED ITSELF AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REASONABLE DECISION.
HOWEVER, THAT IS WEIGHED AGAINST, I THINK, WHAT WAS SAID BY COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC AND OTHERS BY FORTUITY WE IN THANKS TO THE TOUGH WORK FROM CITY STAFF AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ALL CITIES CAME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WE'LL AGREE TO THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE THAT.
AND SO THE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT IS DID IT MANIFEST ITSELF THAT ALL CITY'S CONTRACT MAY BE DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR? WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE'LL INDEMNIFY YOU AGAIN.
CARTE BLANCHE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A POSITION WE'RE NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE KICKING OFF THE NEXT STEP OF ADDRESSING THIS CROSSING GUARD SITUATION, AND I THINK A FAIR ARGUMENT HAS BEEN MADE. HEY, WE HAVE THE ALL CITIES CONTRACT.
LET'S START THE EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY NOW WITH RESIDENTS.
AND I THINK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THEY SO WISH, HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REACH OUT TO THEIR RESIDENTS AND LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE A HALF MILLION PLUS BUDGET ITEM.
IT'S GOING TO GROW. IT MAY NOT BE SUSTAINABLE.
AND YOU KNOW, KICKING OFF WITH RESIDENTS, HEY, THIS IS A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY.
CROSSING GUARDS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. WE NEED SOME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
FORTUNATELY, IT WAS FOUND THROUGH STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC AND BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE, THE AAA SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM, WHERE IT'S KIND OF A WIN WIN WIN.
THERE'S RECOGNITION OF STUDENTS WHO GET INVOLVED.
THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I THINK, IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, WE CAN HOPEFULLY START TO IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF RECEPTION THAT RECEIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY AND IN OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, POLICE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
AND YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS IS GOING TO BE KEY.
AND SO THAT IS A REASONABLE FIRST STEP. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO START STAFFING THESE IN THE NEAR TERM WITH VOLUNTEERS, THAT ALL CITIES CONTRACT IS KIND OF A TIME AND MATERIALS CONTRACT AND THAT, HEY, GREAT NEWS. WE'VE STAFFED A LOCATION WITH A VOLUNTEER.
ALL CITIES THANK YOU. WE ONLY NEED FOUR. OR WE ONLY NEED THREE.
SO WE HAVE THAT FLEX. IT'S GOING TO BE INCUMBENT ON US, THOUGH, TO ENGAGE AND GET RESIDENTS ON BOARD WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ROLE FOR EVERYONE TO PLAY HERE.
YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE DATA DRIVEN METRICS THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE PROVIDED YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED 12 LOCATIONS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, CALL THEM LOWER RISK LESS UTILIZED, PERHAPS.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CROSSING GUARDS AT A MINIMUM SEEK TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS GET INVOLVED. THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE BACK, NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT MAYBE AT MID-YEAR BEFORE THE COMING SEMESTER WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT, HEY, TWO, THREE, FOUR OF THESE, WE NEED TO DROP OFF.
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YOU KNOW, WE MAY NEED TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN BUDGETED, IT'S IN THERE.BUT WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF OTHER UNCERTAINTIES THAT COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY MONEY IN THE BANK.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TOUGH DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.
ULTIMATELY, AS I SAID I DO AGREE. COMMUNITY OUTREACH CAN AND SHOULD BE DONE STARTING NOW.
WE'RE DOING IT NOW. AND YOU KNOW, LEAN INTO THIS AS, AS WE HAVE BEEN AND MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE CHANGES. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE DIRECTION TONIGHT? I AGREE IT'S APPROVED THE AGREEMENT. IT'S A AS NEEDED ON CALL AGREEMENT WITH ALL CITIES MANAGEMENT.
RECEIVE AND FILE THE INFORMATION ON THE LOCATIONS AND THERE ARE MORE LOCATIONS.
I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T IN THIS DRAFT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ARTESIA.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER'S SHAKING HIS HEAD YES.
WE HAVE ARTESIA AND THE BIKE PATH. I'M NOT SAYING, HEY, WE GOT TO DO THAT.
BUT THE POINT AND WE ALSO HAD ON HERE THE OTHER LOCATION THAT THE INGLEWOOD AND GRANT WE JUST DON'T HAVE UNFORTUNATELY, THE CONVENIENCE AND THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS STAFF, ALL THESE LOCATIONS.
SO I'M GLAD THAT WASN'T ON THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT PIE IN THE SKY.
IT'S NOT THE DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION WE'RE MOVING IN. AND SO WE'RE ALL MAKING SOME SACRIFICES.
I THINK A POINT WAS RAISED EARLIER THAT I AGREE WITH, AND WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER, SHOULD EACH SCHOOL HAVE AT LEAST ONE CROSSING GUARD AS WE START TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THIS? MAYBE. BUT THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE GIVEN SOME THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION. RIGHT. SO NO ONE'S LIKE, HEY, WHAT HAVE WE HAVE ZERO CROSSING GUARDS AT MY SCHOOL.
AND IF WE COULD AVOID THAT, WE SHOULD. AND YOU KNOW, DIRECTION ON THE NUMBER AND TYPE OF SERVICES TO BE PROGRAMED IN THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR AND BEYOND. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD LOCK OURSELVES INTO AND BEYOND OR EVEN FOR THE FULL SCHOOL YEAR.
I WOULD THINK WE STAFF AS WE'RE CURRENTLY ABLE TO, WHICH IS THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE PUT UP BY RYAN AND, YOU KNOW, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING HERE AND GET TO THE EXTENT WE CAN TO AAA PATROL SAFETY PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS AND CONSIDERING ARE THERE A FEW SPOTS THAT MAYBE WOULD BE OKAY TO REMOVE EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T STAFFED BY AAA? SO THAT'S KIND OF MY FULL DOWNLOAD. LARGELY IT WAS DRAWN FROM THE FOLKS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR WHO GAVE INPUT, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OTHERS.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU TWO PUT INTO IT AS WELL AS STAFF.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS A IT'S AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT.
AND YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO TAKE KIDS SAFETY LIGHTLY.
APPROVE THE CONTRACT AT FULL STRENGTH TO START.
WHICH, BY THE WAY, MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, THAT WAS WHAT HE WAS ADVOCATING AS WELL.
AND THEN ENGAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON STARTING UP A SAFETY PATROL PROGRAM.
STARTING A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AND WITH THIS, ARE YOU PROPOSING THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD TAKE THAT ON? YEAH, WE'D TAKE IT ON WITH IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS.
AND WE'VE GOT SOCIAL MEDIA. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO ALL THAT NOW, BUT YES.
POTENTIALLY TARGETING IN EARLY 26 TEST CASE AND ALSO IN PARALLEL, POSSIBLY DERIVING AND RECOMMENDING A POLICY SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING SET UP FOR THE FUTURE. IF NOT EARLIER.
SO MAYBE SOMETHING IN 2025 POSSIBLY. BUT YES.
OKAY, SO YOU THINK I RECAPPED THAT, CORRECT? YES.
ANYTHING YOU GOT?. OKAY. LET'S SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID.
I THINK IT'S GREAT WORK. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS THAT GOOD.
I LOVE THE CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, THE OBJECTIVE, DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS.
CAN'T JUST BE WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S MY FAVORITE CROSSING GUARD.
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THE ONE THAT WOULD GO AWAY. AND I'M NOT THE SAME CROSSING GUARD IS THERE NOW, AS WAS 20 YEARS AGO.BUT YEAH, I CAN SEE IT'S LIKE, NO, I DON'T WANT TO SEE HER GO.
BUT THAT PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT DATA THAT WE SAW, THAT'S THE FIRST OF THE FIVE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD LOOK AT USING A ONE OF THE AAA PEOPLE.
SO BASED ON THAT, I AM HOPING, YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT WE COULD DO THE CONTRACT THIS YEAR.
I'M HOPING THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WE WILL EVER HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT WITH THEM.
IF WE CAN. YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, DIVING IN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF DOING 1 OR 2 SITES IN 2026, IT'S LIKE, HEY, IF WE CAN DO 1 OR 2 THIS YEAR SO THAT WE'RE IN OPTION THREE WITH SIX SITES NEXT YEAR AND 12 SITES THE YEAR AFTER THAT WE'RE DONE WITH OUTSOURCING OUR PEOPLE OR OUR CROSSING GUARDS.
AND THE REST IS ALL ARE ALL BACKFILLED BY THE AAA PROGRAM.
SO YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ALONG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
DO THE CONTRACT THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY IT'S OUR LAST TIME EVER DOING IT AND WORK.
YEAH, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THE SCHOOLS TO COOPERATE, SO WE GOT TO GET THE SCHOOLS ON BOARD, MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. AND IT'S A HUGE BUDGET SAVINGS FOR THE CITY.
IF WE GO FROM NOT EVEN HAVING THIS CONTRACT, ALSO ELIMINATING THE NEED TO PAY FOR A LOT OF THE CROSSING GUARDS THAT WE DO HAVE NOW THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR OUT OF OUR BUDGET YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET OF 15 INSTEAD OF A BUDGET OF 22.
THAT'S GREAT FOR OUR ONGOING THING. OKAY. THANK YOU.
IT TAKES A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY TO GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, MAN, YOUR POST EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A SIXTH GRADER, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO DO.
AND MY FELLOW CO-CAPTAIN, AMY, FATHER, AND I WOULD GO OUT EVERY DAY AND WE SPLIT UP THE WEEK.
AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IN THE FIRST OPTION, WE WERE ONLY DOING 1 OR 2 POST, AND THAT MIGHT BE TWO FEW POSTS AT ONE SCHOOL, MEANING THAT IF A STUDENT IS SICK OR ABSENT ONE DAY, WE NEED SOME SO WE NEED SOME REDUNDANCY. AND THAT'S SO DEPENDING ON WHAT SCHOOL.
AND THEN THE OTHER IDEA THAT I HAD WAS TO REALLY MAYBE START WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WHERE THE STUDENTS, BOTH THE SAFETY PATROL PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS THE STUDENTS ARE OLDER AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO CROSS THESE MINOR INTERSECTIONS.
WHERE DID YOU SEE THIS? ELEMENTARY STARTS AT 8:20 AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STARTS AT 8:05.
OKAY. AND THE OTHER REASON WE THOUGHT OF FIFTH GRADERS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY HAVE SIX CLASSES OR FIVE CLASSES A DAY. WE'RE MISSING SOME OF THAT.
IS IS MORE IMPACTFUL. THANK YOU. THEN LIKE FIFTH GRADER IS WITH ONE TEACHER AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN BEING TARDY AND LEAVING EARLY AND MISSING SOME CLASS.
I THINK IT WAS OUR GOAL. SO YOU DO MISS A LITTLE BIT OF CLASS.
AND WE ACTUALLY SPLIT UP THE WEEK BECAUSE WE HAD A NUMBER OF STUDENTS PARTICIPATING.
SO YOU WEREN'T DOING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE DISTRICT.
BECAUSE THIS WILL BE UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA. RIGHT. EXACTLY.
FOR THE YOUNG KIDS, THAT MIGHT BE AN INCENTIVE TO PARTICIPATE.
RIGHT. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. WELL, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO BE A VERY RESPONSIBLE STUDENT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TRUST YOU TO, YOU KNOW, BE OUT THERE TO WORK. BACK WHEN I DID IT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. THERE WEREN'T PARENTS WITH YOU. WE HAD A TEACHER WHO WAS AN ADVISOR.
BUT WE WERE ADVISOR. BUT NOT AT THE INTERSECTION.
RIGHT. WE WENT OUTSIDE ON OUR OWN. AND AS CAPTAINS, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF ORGANIZED EVERYBODY WENT OUT, VISIT THEIR POST AND CALLED THEM IN WHEN IT WAS TIME TO COME IN.
SO BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE A LEADERSHIP PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, STARTING YOU KNOW, IN THE SPRING SEMESTER OF THIS CURRENT COMING SCHOOL YEAR WOULD BE GREAT.
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AND MAYBE START WITH FIVE POSTS INSTEAD OF ONE OR 1 OR 2, DEPENDING ON SORT OF LOGISTICALLY HOW IT WORKS OUT IN THE LOCATION.AND THEN OUR FISCAL YEAR AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD.
I'M GOOD WITH THIS. I WILL SAY HOW DO WE. I GUESS ONE THING ROLLING THROUGH MY MIND IS HOW DO WE KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? OR DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION WHETHER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE WILLING TO COOPERATE OR PARTICIPATE WITH THIS SEEING AS I'VE GOTTEN NO INDICATION FROM THEM THAT THEY WANTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CROSSING GUARDS.
SO I WILL SAY THAT I, I HAVE TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT THE AAA PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS AS WE DUG INTO IT, FALLS UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA AND PURVIEW, AND IT REQUIRES THEIR SUPERVISION AND THEY HAVE TO DESIGNATE ONE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON TO THIS AT EACH SCHOOL.
SO WE HAVE MENTIONED IT TO THEM, BUT WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THE PROGRAM FORMALLY.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP. AND WHICH OPTION DO WE HAVE? WE SETTLED ON. I'M OBVIOUSLY I'M GRAVITATING TO OPTION THREE.
I THINK IT'S A HYBRID OF WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED.
I'M HEARING A KIND OF A HYBRID OF ONE AND TWO.
I MEAN, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT AS MANY OF THESE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE, I THINK, PRACTICAL IN OUR EXPECTATION THERE.
WELL, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS PROGRAM, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SCHOOLS PROGRAM. SO WE DON'T GET TO DICTATE HOW MANY POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STAFF AT ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'RE EXCITED BY THE PROGRAM.
BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
AND YOU BOTH ADVOCATED FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WASN'T PART OF WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE OPTION.
BUT DOING SOME THOSE ARE MORE INTERMEDIATE STEPS.
THOSE ARE MORE GOALS. BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT THOSE.
YEAH. I WOULD JUST ADD IN, I. BELIEVING ASSUMING THAT THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AAA PROGRAM THROUGH OUR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED FOR OUR PARTNER. YES, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THIS EXPLORATION TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT OUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE VIS A VIS THE DISTRICT.
I TOO BRIEFLY MENTIONED THIS TO NIKKI TODAY AND ON OUR CALL.
AND BUT YES, WE OUT OF FAIRNESS, WE'VE GOT TO PRESENT IT IN ITS ENTIRETY TO THEM.
SUPPORT IS NEEDED WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN YOUR STRUCTURE.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN.
OH. I'M SORRY, WERE YOU STILL. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST TO FINISH UP.
SO IF YOU NEED EITHER OF US TO TALK TO ANYBODY, LET US KNOW.
YEAH. THERE'S THE ALUMNI NETWORK IS BIG. YEAH.
AND SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, PRESIDENTS, VICE PRESIDENTS, ALL FORMER AAA SAFETY PATROL.
YEAH. BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE IN THE PARTNERSHIP, IT MEANS THAT WE ARE, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE CAN REALLY ENHANCE THE PROGRAM AND SELL IT TO STUDENTS, TO PARENTS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE, IS THAT WE CELEBRATE THIS, THIS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IN A BIG WAY THROUGH THE DISTRICT, THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHERE THE CARROT IS, AND WE NEED TO BE COMMITTED TO THAT WE GAVE THEM SPECIAL DISPENSATION GETTING INTO THE YOUTH COMMISSION THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S A YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S A RESUME BUILDER. EXACTLY. YEAH.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
WHAT WE'VE GOT TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. AND ELEANOR, IF WE COULD GET THE SIGNATURE TO ME QUICKLY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOT TO BE THE 19TH. YEAH, WE GOT, LIKE, TEN HOURS, SO. RIGHT.
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RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR BOTH, YOU KNOW, FINAL ROLLOUT AND OR A REPORT BACK AND ANY POLICY THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD ESTABLISH. SUBCOMMITTEE AND OR CITY STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WHEN I SAY SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK THAT.THERE'S STAFF ON THIS COMMITTEE. YEAH. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AS STATED.
SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
THERE'S NOBODY HERE ANYMORE. SO ANYBODY ONLINE? WE HAVE NO ON ZOOM AND THERE'S NO COMMENT. WE HAVE COMMENTS.
CAPTAIN MARTINEZ HAS A FINAL JOKE. YOU'RE NOT PUBLIC HERE.
YOUR STAFF. YOU HAVE TO WORK A DAD JOKE INTO THIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. MAYBE I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW.
SO YESTERDAY WE HAD A MEETING WITH OUR 22 CITY EMPLOYEE CROSSING GUARDS.
THEY'RE ALL VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTING TOMORROW. BUT SINCE THIS CONTRACT IS GOING SO LATE TONIGHT, THE OTHER FIVE INTERSECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY THE WON'T BE STAFFED BY CROSSING GUARDS.
SO WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STAFFED WITH CADETS.
BUT JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE FIVE INTERSECTIONS, AND WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STAFFED FOR CROSSING GUARD DUTIES, AT LEAST FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK.
AND WHAT I WOULD SAY, CAPTAIN MARTINEZ, IS THE MAYOR CAN EXECUTE VERY QUICKLY, IF NOT TONIGHT, FIRST THING TOMORROW. SO THEY'RE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS GOING TO BE, BUT THEY, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE AS EARLY AS TOMORROW. SO IF THEY HAVE ANY AVAILABLE RESOURCES, YOU CAN DEPLOY THEM AS NEEDED.
BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY ON PINS AND NEEDLES RIGHT NOW.
SO. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND NOBODY'S ONLINE.
NO ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS. OKAY. OKAY. HOLD THE VOTE.
ONE AT A TIME. AYE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK, PARTICULARLY THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK. THANK YOU GUYS.
GREAT WORK. OKAY. GOING DOWN TO O CITY MANAGER ITEM.
NOTHING. NOTHING THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY. REFERRALS TO STAFF.
[Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF]
SO I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT I GOT FOUR THAT I'VE LISTED FROM EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT.THE FIRST. YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE EMPHATICALLY, I EMPHATICALLY GOT AN EMAIL FROM MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION AND FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE KIND OF RESURRECTING AN OLD RECOMMENDATION ON RESERVES AND THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE THAT UP.
NOW, I THINK WE DID DELIBERATE THAT DURING THE BUDGET, BUT THEY WANTED TO RE-UP IT.
SO IS THAT A GOOD ONE FOR MID TERM, THE MID TERM BUDGET OR I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN HAVE A REAL PRAGMATIC DISCUSSION ABOUT RESERVES IS IN THE CONTEXT OF BUDGET, BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME. SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, WE COULD WE COULD HAVE THAT CONTEXTUAL DISCUSSION AS PART OF MID-YEAR.
SO YOU JUST SEEM PRETTY EMPHATIC ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO IGNORE A COMMISSION. MAYBE WE GET A BRR.
SO CAN WE DO A BRR ON IT? SURE. I MEAN, WE WOULD BE OUR OWN RESERVES.
I MEAN, IT, YOU KNOW, RESERVES ARE ALWAYS PART OF YOUR BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS EACH AND EVERY YEAR.
MAYBE NEIGHBORING CITIES AS A COMPARISON. THEY HAVE SOME.
AND THAT DATA WAS ACTUALLY PREPARED. DID YOU ALL GET THE SAME EMAIL? NO. OKAY. WELL I WILL FORWARD THAT OUT TO THE COUNCIL.
WE WERE HERE. BUT IN OUR BUDGET WE ACTUALLY INCREASED, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INCREASE IN RESERVES.
AND LAST YEAR THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE INCREASE THE RESERVE, THE MINIMUM RESERVE FROM 8.3%, WHICH IS SORT OF ONE MONTH'S BUDGET, UP TO TWO MONTHS.
AND SO I THOUGHT THAT THE EXTRA MONEY THAT WE PUT IN THAT THIS YEAR WAS TO BUILD TOWARD THAT NUMBER.
THE COUNCIL HAS CONSIDERED THIS RESERVE RECOMMENDATION MULTIPLE TIMES OVER BUDGET CYCLES.
PREVIOUSLY, AT ONE POINT, STAFF STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT WHEN WE HAD THE ADDITIONAL PERS PENSION BOND OBLIGATION FUNDS, THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO RESERVES. COUNCIL AT THE TIME OPTED TO DIRECT IT DIFFERENTLY.
SO THE COUNCIL GETS TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EACH AND EVERY BUDGET CYCLE.
YOU EFFECTIVELY DO BY WAY OF UTILIZATION OF THOSE FUNDS.
WE JUST HAD THAT DISCUSSION BY WAY OF SPENDING $3.5 MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET.
THAT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION'S DELIBERATION.
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IN FACT, THAT DATA WAS ALL PREPARED BY STAFF AND PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION PRIOR TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH I THINK WAS PASSED ON VIA MEMO AT THE TIME, SEVERAL DAYS AGO TONIGHT.SO THE TIME WOULD BE MIDYEAR OR NEXT, THE 25, 26, 26, 27 BUDGET CYCLE.
I'D LIKE A BRR ON IT. I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE IT IS EITHER THE MIDYEAR OR THE OR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
I MEAN, LET'S DO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. THIS IS KIND OF COMING BACK TO ME.
WE HAD THAT INFORMATION. WE REVIEWED IT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE PASSED THE BUDGET. WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT FOR CERTAIN REASONS.
SO BUT WE WERE IN A BUDGET DEFICIT TOO. YEAH.
SO I'M FINE WITH WHEN WE COME BACK ON WITH THE BUDGET.
THIS WOULD BE PART OF IT AGAIN. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK.
AND I APPRECIATE FOLKS CAN GET EMPHATIC ABOUT STUFF AND I WANT TO I JUST WANT TO RESPECT THE WORK THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE YOU'RE DOING? ME TOO. OKAY. SECOND, WE JUST HEARD TONIGHT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR WILDERNESS PARK.
I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN APPOINTED AS MAYOR.
SO IF YOU THINK IF THAT REQUIRES DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, THEN I'D LIKE TO.
IT SHOULDN'T BE A LONG DISCUSSION. IT'S YES OR NO.
I DON'T AS WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT TONIGHT.
THE ISSUES RELATED TO IT. SO CAN I GET SUPPORT ON THIS? ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD START WITH? ONE OF THE COMMITTEES.
COMMISSION. YOU HAVE AN ECHO. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
ZEIN. OH, SORRY. ISN'T THAT SOMETHING? I SHOULD START OUT WITH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS.
I JUST EARLIER TONIGHT, IT WAS, WELL, IF YOU MAKE IT THAT DESIGNATION AND WE CAN'T TOUCH THE POND, POTENTIALLY WE'VE ADDED OTHER BARS. I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO HANDLE THIS WOULD BE TO REFER IT FOR INITIAL DISCUSSION.
AND WE WOULD PROVIDE SOME PRIMER ON THE IMPACTS OF PURSUING THAT DESIGNATION, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS THERE, LIKE HISTORIC HOMES, THERE'S LANDMARKS. AND EACH OF THOSE CARRIES DIFFERENT AND BUT THAT IS BUT IT IS IN MY VIEW, A POLICY DECISION BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE LASTING RAMIFICATIONS.
AND THAT WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD DO IT. ALL RIGHT.
REFERRAL FOR A PRIMARY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OPTIONS TO HISTORICALLY DESIGNATE WILDERNESS PARK.
WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO VOTE ON. I JUST SAID IT'S JUST A REFERRAL TO STAFF.
JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON REFERRALS TO STAFF, I THINK.
AYE. AYE. AYE. AND TO ADD TO SCOTT'S POINT HERE, THIS ISN'T I'M ASSUMING THIS ISN'T A RUSH ITEM, RIGHT? THIS IS OKAY. YEAH, I COUNCIL MEMBER SUBJECT TO THAT, I THAT'S OKAY.
GOT A PRETTY FULL AGENDA FOR THESE FOLKS. THE THIRD I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS YET, BUT THE HISTORIC HOMES WILL BE JUST WAITING UNTIL WE CAN READ IS RIGHT UP THERE.
WELL, ONE THING TO NOTE IN THAT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION VOTED.
IT'S AT THIS POINT, THE APPLICANTS HAVE RECEIVED THE PAC'S DETERMINATION.
YEAH. I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT.
HE JUST WANTED TO TAKE THAT BUNDLE THAT HOUSE UP AND MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH TONIGHT. SO. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO READ ABOUT IT. WE'LL DECIDE LATER. AND THEN THE LAST ONE I THINK WAS FROM YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAPTURED IT IN OUR TOBACCO DISCUSSION, BUT THE REFERRAL ON, YOU KNOW, A GLOBAL TOBACCO POLICY THAT FOR THAT NOT FOR THE SMOKE SHOPS BUT FOR THE REST OF THE CRITERIA.
I THINK WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT. SO YOU DON'T NEED THAT? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THAT KIND OF YEAH. PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.
WE'LL DO SOME MORE ASSESSING IF YOU'RE FINE WITH IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MENTIONED.
NO, BECAUSE THEN I REQUESTED THE NUMBER OF RETAIL TOBACCO.
YEAH. RIGHT. SO THAT YEAH, IT'S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. BUT THANK YOU FOR SURE.
GREAT. THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE STARTING IN AUGUST ON.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MID YEAR. IT'S NOT LIKE I RIGHT AWAY BUT A REPORT PREPARED ON PARKING REVENUE FROM THE RIVIERA VILLAGE TRIANGLE AREA ON VARIOUS WEEKENDS TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE THAT TO WHEN THERE ARE EVENTS IN THE VILLAGE SUCH AS
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SUMMER FESTIVAL, THE JULY 4TH, 5K, ETC. SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE PARKING REVENUE IS LIKE IN THAT TRIANGLE.YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON VERSUS JUST WHEN THERE'S THESE BIG EVENTS.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. NOTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
I'M GOOD. NO, THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. NO, THANKS.
OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NO. OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.