Sep 08, 2025 Harbor Commission

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 TO ORDER. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER ABELMAN. HERE. COMMISSIONER FALK. HERE. COMMISSIONER COLLER.

HERE. COMMISSIONER CHRZAN. HERE. COMMISSIONER BAUER.

HERE. COMMISSIONER CARLSON. HERE. AND CHAIR CALLAHAN.

HERE. COULD I HAVE COMMISSIONER CHRZAN LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE? SURE. EVERYONE PLEASE STAND. PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT. FIRST OFF IS APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

I WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. YES. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR YOU TODAY, BOTH OF WHICH ARE BACKUP AND POWERPOINT MATERIALS

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

WE DIDN'T EMAIL THOSE TO YOU GUYS YET, BUT WE WILL DO SO AFTER THE FACT.

OKAY. YEAH, I KEPT LOOKING, THINKING THEY WERE COMING.

SORRY. OKAY. CONSENT CALENDAR. WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING FOR THE MEETING AND THE

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NO EXCLUDED. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION.

THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.

I SEE NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE PUBLIC.

ARE THERE ANY ECOMMENTS? NO ECOMMENTS. ANYBODY IN ZOOM? NO PARTICIPANTS IN ZOOM. ALL RIGHT. NO EX PARTE, NO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS AND ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION.

[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

AS YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO BRING BACK OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AT THE WATERFRONT. TONIGHT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE SERGEANT BRIAN WEISS.

YOU DO KNOW HIM. HE HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE DOING REPORTS, BUT WE HAVE HAD A CHANGEOVER RECENTLY.

AND THERE'S A NEW SERGEANT, SERGEANT BANACH, THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE DOING THIS FOR US, HE'S OUR NEW SERGEANT AT THE PIER.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS INJURED ON THE JOB A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

HE STILL ISN'T BACK. WE DID NOT WANT TO DELAY THIS ANY MORE, SO WE INVITED BRIAN BACK.

SO HE'S GOING TO LEAD OFF TODAY AND AND KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME TRENDS THAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT THERE. GOOD EVENING.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M SERGEANT BRIAN WEISS. MY PLAN TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE STAT REPORT UP, AND THEN THEY'LL EMAIL IT TO YOU LATER SO YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF GET DOWN INTO IT GRADUALLY.

I WENT THROUGH AT LEAST THE TOP FIVE NUMBERS FOR YOU GUYS.

SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER JUST THIS IS JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST, THE STAT REPORT THAT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE.

SO IT'S A IT'S THREE MONTHS. 415. SO A DISTURBANCE CALL IS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE.

415 DISTURBANCE WITH A TRANSIENT IS ANOTHER ONE.

ANIMAL IS ONE OF OUR TOP CALLS AT THE PIER, AND THAT'S.

SO THIS IS PD ALTOGETHER. IT'S, SO PD ANIMAL CONTROL.

WITH ALL THE RED TIDE WE HAD THE OVER THE SUMMER, OVER THE SPRING, ANIMAL CALLS ARE PRETTY BIG.

ANY INJURED BIRDS OR ANIMALS ARE GOING TO GENERATE AN ANIMAL CALL.

CHECK THE WELFARE CALLS. GENERALLY, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO TRANSIENTS WHERE SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, THEY'RE DOWN. THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DOING WELL. AND THEN PARKING AND I BELIEVE PARKING IS ACTUALLY THE NUMBER ONE FOR THE PD.

SERGEANT BANACH WAS HERE UP TILL LAST WEEK AND, AND ALL THE WORKING ON LIGHT DUTY.

SO HE PROVIDED ME A LITTLE BIT OF INFO ON CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE PIER AREA.

2024, WE HAD 2157 CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND HE JUST HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE THINGS.

SO CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS IN THE AREA WERE 45.

DISTURBANCES WITH TRANSIENTS. AND THAT TURNED INTO A MENTAL HEALTH HOLD WHERE ABOUT 16.

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AND THEY MADE 50 ARRESTS. SO THAT'S 2024. 2025, YEAR TO DATE CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE AT 734.

CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS ARE AT 25. THAT DISTURBANCE, TRANSIENTS OR MENTAL HEALTH HOLDS IS AT 10.

THEY PULLED 190 REPORTS AND THEY'VE MADE 43 ARRESTS.

SOME OF THE BIGGEST TRENDS WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GRAFFITI GOING ON UP HERE.

PUBLIC WORKS IS REALLY TRYING TO WORK HARD AND GET AFTER IT.

THE STAFFING AND THE PIER HASN'T CHANGED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SERGEANT BANACH BEING OUT. BUT THE LIEUTENANT WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE PIER HAS ASKED ALL THE OTHER LIEUTENANTS IN THE DEPARTMENT TO ASK THEIR GUYS TO GO DOWN AND SPEND SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AT THE PIER.

SO IF THEY GO TAKE A WALK, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

A LOT OF THE GRAFFITI IN THE BATHROOMS, AND THAT'S A PLACE THAT WE CAN PATROL, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY EFFECTIVE.

EVENTUALLY, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MORE CAMERAS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS ON THE PIER THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

FOR SURE WE'VE CAUGHT A COUPLE CRIMES ON THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ON THE SUBSTATION.

THOSE CAMERAS ARE REALLY GREAT. AND DISPATCH HAS 24 HOUR ACCESS TO THEM.

THE OTHER TREND WE'RE SEEING A LOT IS TRANSIENTS.

WE, AT LEAST THE PIER OFFICERS HAVE IDENTIFIED.

THEY KNOW WHO'S WHO IN THE ZOO. IT'S NOT OUR REGULAR OUR PEOPLE.

AND I SPEAKING TO LEILA AMARA. SHE'S SEEING THE SAME TREND WHERE WE'RE SEEING A BIG INFLUX OF TRANSIENTS FROM OTHER AREAS.

PART OF IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF ATTRACTION HERE AT GOOD WEATHER, WE HAVE GENEROUS RESIDENTS, WE HAVE HOT MEALS ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE HAVE THAT ONE CHURCH THAT'S FEEDING DIRECTLY IN THE PIER STRUCTURE WHICH BRINGS A LOT OF THEM DOWN FOR THE FEEDING, AND GENERALLY THEY DISPERSE, BUT MANY OF THEM HAVE NOT BECOME PERMANENT FIXTURES.

THEY'RE JUST COMING THROUGH, STAYING FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN THEY'RE MOVING ON.

AND LILA'S DOING HER BEST WORK TO GET THEM HOUSED OR PROVIDE THEM SERVICES.

SO SHE'S WORKING HARD. THE PIER GUYS WILL ALWAYS CALL HER AND OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'VE EVER MET HER OR SEEN HER WORK, SHE DOES JUST AN AWESOME JOB. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER THEM.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT ABOUT THE E-BIKE HOODLUMS THAT ARE DOWN TERRORIZING EVERYBODY.

IMAGINE THAT. IT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF TO SAY.

YEAH, IT'S A BIG ITEM ON NEXT DOOR. I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT SCHOOL'S BACK IN SESSION.

IT'S THE WEIRDEST THING. BEING A COP IS LEARNING THAT WHEN SCHOOL GOES BACK INTO SESSION, YOU HAVE LESS PROBLEMS WITH THE YOUTH.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT AROUND THAT'S DONE MORE WORK WITH E-BIKES.

WITH NOT ONLY ENFORCEMENT, WITH EDUCATION, WITH OUTREACH.

WE RECENTLY DID EIGHT BIKE RODEOS OVER AT THE ANNEX.

AND WITH THOSE BIKE RODEOS, WE WERE CERTIFYING THE KIDS SO THEY CAN BRING THEIR E-BIKES TO SCHOOL.

SO THEY GET NOT ONLY SAFETY, THEY GET A FULL HOUR E-BIKE PRESENTATION, NOMENCLATURE, SAFETY, RESPONSIBILITIES, RULES OF THE ROAD, AND THEN THEY HAVE MULTIPLE ROAD COURSE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET CERTIFIED.

THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDED A FREE HELMET. THEY'RE NOT WEARING THEM, BUT.

IT'S ALWAYS GREAT WHEN YOU SEE THE HELMET HANGING ON THE HANDLEBAR. IT'S LIKE, OH, YOU BROUGHT IT, BUT YOU DIDN'T. SCRAPE THE BRAINS WITH IT.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO CONTINUE WITH OUR OUTREACH.

THOSE BIKE RODEOS. WE PARTNERED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE HAD SCHEDULED IT WAS 50 KIDS PER DAY FOR EIGHT RODEOS.

AND IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. AND IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME FACE TIME WITH THE KIDS.

AND JUST IF ANYTHING, YOU'VE GOT ENGAGED PARENTS WHO SIGN THE KIDS UP.

AND SO MAYBE AS WE KEEP GOING WITH THAT ENFORCEMENT OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION HAS DONE MULTIPLE ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS WHERE THEY'RE WE'RE SHARING THE WEALTH ACROSS THE SOUTH BAY, SO EL SEGUNDO AND MANHATTAN AND THE OTHER BEACH CITIES WILL COME TOGETHER, AND THEN ALL OF THOSE MOTOR OFFICERS WILL COME TO ONE CITY AND WORK A PROBLEM.

AND THEY WENT OUT AND DID A BUNCH OF ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WE CAN SOLVE THROUGH ENFORCEMENT.

WE'RE STILL, WE STILL HAVE SOME GRANT SOME A LITTLE BIT OF GRANT MONEY LEFT OVER FROM A PREVIOUS THING WHERE WE DID $5 GIFT CARDS FOR STARBUCKS.

YOU WEAR YOUR HELMET, YOU STOP AT A STOP SIGN.

WE WANT TO APPRECIATE THE GOOD BEHAVIOR, AND I THINK THAT HELPS.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH. IT'S NOT JUST A HAMMER. IT'S A HANDSHAKE, TOO.

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IT'S BACK TO THE FISHING KIDS, RIGHT? IT'S THE E-BIKE KIDS HOPPING FENCES BEING DISRESPECTFUL.

WE'VE GOT TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND A SOLUTION TO GET THEM TO HAVE SOME EQUITY IN THE HARBOR.

AND MAYBE INSTEAD OF THE MIDDLE FINGER, THEY WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO SAY HI AND BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

BUT THEIR BEHAVIOR AND AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, IF THEIR BEHAVIOR IS HORRIBLE, THEN WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THEM.

HOPPING FENCES AND AND GETTING INTO FIGHTS AND THEY WERE MOONING RESIDENTS DOWN IN THE HARBOR.

YOU EVER ARREST ANY OF THEM? SOME DO. SOME FOR SURE GO TO JAIL.

IT'S JUST REALLY TOUGH WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WITH JUVENILES. LIKE, WE CAN'T REALLY HOLD THEM.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO JUVENILE HALL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET A CITATION. MOM AND DAD WILL HAVE TO COME PICK THEM UP, AND THEN. THAT'S AN INCONVENIENCE. OH FOR SURE. I MEAN, AND MY POLICY WAS ALWAYS IF I HAD KIDS THAT WERE RESPECTFUL, THEN THEY WOULD GO AWAY WITH A WARNING.

IF THEY WEREN'T RESPECTFUL WITH ME, THEN THEIR PARENTS WERE GOING TO HAVE TO COME PICK THEM UP AND THEN PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF EQUITY INTO THE PARENTS THINKING. OKAY. AND YOU'RE NOTIFYING THEM. I THINK THAT'S THE THING IS, A LOT OF PARENTS JUST PUT A KID ON A BIKE AND HE'S, OH, HE'S GOING FISHING. AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT HE'S HOPPING FENCES AND CUSSING OUT ADULTS AND DAMAGING PEOPLE'S STUFF OR STEALING PEOPLE'S THINGS.

SO WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THAT, AND I DON'T, IT'S GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A STOP BUTTON FOR IT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. RYAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO LAST YEAR? IT'S TRENDING A LOT LOWER.

AT LEAST. YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE THE CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, IT'S TRENDING LOWER.

AND I'M GETTING THAT DATA FROM THE COPS THAT ARE WORKING.

I LEFT THE PIER IN JANUARY, SO I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD MY FINGER ON.

I HEAR THE RADIO AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT THEY SEEM TO FEEL THAT THE ASSAULTS, THE BIG CRIMES, LIKE PART ONE CRIMES WE CALL THEM, HAVE REDUCED.

PART OF IT'S THEIR WORK WITH ABC AND REDUCING THE.

THERE'S A TON OF ALCOHOL LICENSES IN THE HARBOR WORKING WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES NOT TO OVER SERVE.THAT WAS ALWAYS MY NUMBER ONE THING FOR ALL MY SERVICE ON THE PIER AS A POLICE OFFICER AND AS A SUPERVISOR WAS WHEN ALCOHOL WAS OUT OF CONTROL ON THE PIER.

CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL ON THE PIER. AND ALMOST EVERY MAJOR INCIDENT THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT HAPPENED IN THE PIER.

THE MURDER, THE SHOOTING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THERE WAS ALCOHOL AS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. ANYTHING ELSE? LISA. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. LEE. YEAH. JUST ONE QUESTION ON THE PRETTY MUCH ON THE FISHING KIDS.

I'M NOT HEARING MUCH LATELY ABOUT THEFTS OFF OF BOATS.

AND I DO KNOW WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH KIDS GETTING ON THE DOCKS AND FISHING OFF THE DOCKS.

HAS THAT DECREASED AS WELL? THE THEFTS OR. THEFTS, BOTH.

YEAH. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THEFTS, BUT THE PROBLEM, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN I SPEAK TO MIKE BAKER, HE SAYS, OH, YEAH. DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LOST A FISH AND PULL OFF A BOAT? I'M LIKE, NO, THEY DIDN'T CALL.

AND WE NEED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE WERE NOTIFIED.

FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN TRACK IT AND IF IT BECOMES A SPIKE, THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH IT.

WE CAN FLY A DRONE OVER THE HARBOR AT NIGHT. WE CAN DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T REPORT, AND THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS. I THINK THE FISHING, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE ON THE PIER RECENTLY FOR KIDS FISHING IN THE NO FISHING ZONES, KIND OF LIKE DOWN ON THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK OR RIGHT NEXT TO THE SKATE PARK.

AND THEY'RE ALL YOUNG KIDS. EVERY GROUP THAT I'VE DEALT WITH HAS BEEN RESPECTFUL.

AND EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STANDING NEXT TO THE SIGN THAT SAYS NO FISHING YOU KNOW, THE TOUGH THING IS, IS ALL THOSE KIDS LIKE A CERTAIN KIND OF FISHING AND THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO CATCH BASS, AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY PLACES THAT ARE GOOD FOR THAT.

AND JUST STANDING OFF THE PIER WHERE EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS, THEY DON'T CATCH ANYTHING.

AND SO THERE'S NO MOTIVATION, SO THEY START TRYING TO FIND OTHER AREAS.

AND I'M TRYING TO POINT THEM INTO OTHER AREAS WHERE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THAT IT'S LEGAL.

BUT I HAVE TO HAVE THOSE ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THOSE CONTEXTS.

SO. YES. OKAY. LESLIE. YOU JUST GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THE BIKE.

RODEOS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD. I WONDER IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NEXT SPRING, LIKE GETTING AHEAD OF SUMMER FOR SOME SORT OF, LIKE YOU SAID, NOT JUST THE HAMMER, BUT THE REWARD.

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OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THINGS THEY SHOULD KNOW NOT TO JUMP FENCES, BUT JUST THEY'RE NOT GOING TO READ SIGNS, BUT MAYBE SOME EDUCATION ON WHERE YOU CAN FISH AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SEEING TO TRY TO HELP PREVENT AND KIND OF GIVE A REWARD THAT.

YEAH, I AGREE, AND IT'S A MATTER OF I WANTED TO CREATE A FORUM.

I WANTED TO CREATE A WAY TO GET FACE TIME WITH THE FISHING KIDS.

YEAH. AND IF IT'S A CLUB AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRACTION.

YEAH. WITH THAT I, I TRY AND ENCOURAGE THE KIDS TO FISH THE BEACH BECAUSE THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO CAUSE ANY DRAMA IN THERE.

BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL. THEY DON'T THEIR AGE.

THEY DON'T NEED A LICENSE. THE BAIT IS FREE. THE FISHING IS GREAT.

IT'S. BUT ACCESS WITH THEIR BIKE AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECOMES A PROBLEM.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. IF WE COULD HAVE THAT KIND OF FORUM WHERE WE COULD GET THAT FACE TIME AND AND JUST SET THE STANDARD, LIKE, DON'T BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ADULTS, DON'T BREAK THE RULES BECAUSE YOU START OFF WRONG AND THEN IT JUST CIRCLES AND THEN I GET INVOLVED AND THEN I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, START THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE. I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT.

I KNOW FISHING GAME WOULD BE WILLING TO JUMP IN.

MAYBE BETWEEN. CURRENTLY I'M ASSIGNED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES UNIT.

SO ALL THE FORWARD FACING EVENTS FROM THE PD COMES THROUGH ME.

I WOULD LOVE TO PUT TOGETHER AN EVENT. WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE YACHT CLUB AND FISH AND WILDLIFE AND THE PD AND DO AN EVENT AND COME UP WITH, JUST COME UP WITH SOMETHING, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN START THE EVENT WITH SOME LIKE HERE'S THE EXPECTATIONS AND THEN HAVE A FISHING DAY. YEAH, THAT'D BE COOL. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD.

AND I THINK WE COULD GET SOME BUY IN. AND MAYBE IF WE DO IT IN THE SUMMERTIME OR EARLY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF SCHOOL, WE CAN START THE SUMMER OFF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YEAH, EXACTLY.

INSTEAD OF JUST THE CHAOS. AND WE'RE ALL BEGGING THEM TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. TOM. YES, I KNOW, AND THIS IS AN ODD QUESTION.

I SUPPOSE THERE'S I'M SURE THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HARD, BUT DOES ANYBODY EVER GET CAUGHT AFTER TAGGING A WALL OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE IN THE. YES AND NO. I MEAN, IN MY 18 YEARS, I'VE DEFINITELY CAUGHT A HANDFUL, MAYBE A DOZEN.

IT'S, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS LIKE. THERE WAS ONE NIGHT I WAS WALKING THE PIER AND WE WERE COMING, COMING AROUND THAT HORSESHOE AROUND THE SKATE PARK, AND I COULD SMELL SPRAY PAINT.

IT WAS JUST THIS HEAVY SPRAY PAINT AND I'M LIKE, OH, THAT'S A CLUE. YEAH. AND SO WE WENT OVER THE RAILING AND THEY WERE UNDER KINCAID'S DOING A HUGE PIECE, AND WE ARRESTED TWO GUYS FOR THAT.

OKAY. IT IS KIND OF RARE, AT LEAST. YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE CITY, WE'VE HAD A DECENT AMOUNT OF THE GANG GRAFFITI THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE NORTH END AND PERRY PARK, AND SURVEILLANCE VIDEO HELPS.

AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WITH ONCE WE GET MORE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS DOWN ON THE PIER IT'S HELPFUL IF THERE ARE LOCALS, IF IT'S SOME RANDOM KID FROM WHITTIER OR SOMETHING, AND THERE'S NO WAY IT'S REALLY JUST COPS BEING ON THEIR BEAT AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF. AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE SYSTEM IS STILL IN PLACE, BUT L.A.

COUNTY USED TO HAVE A GRAFFITI SYSTEM, AND IT WAS LIKE A CLEARINGHOUSE.

AND SO IF WE COULD ARREST YOU WITH YOUR MONIKER, THEN WE'D PUT THAT IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEN YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MONIKER COUNTYWIDE. AND IT GOT VERY EXPENSIVE FOR SOME PEOPLE.

THE GRAFFITI. USUALLY THE GRAFFITI PRICE, WE TRY AND PRICE IT AT ABOUT $7 PER SQUARE FOOT.

DAMAGED. OKAY. SO IF YOU DO A BIG PIECE, A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU CAN YOU CAN END UP.

AND WITH THAT ONE. PUBLIC WORKS CAN'T JUST CLEAN THE PAINT INTO THE OCEAN.

SO THEY'VE GOT TO RECAPTURE. SO PRICES GO UP AND UP AND UP AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A BILL.

AND THEN THOSE TWO GUYS ENDED UP NOT ONLY BEING CONVICTED OF GRAFFITI TRESPASSING, AND THEN ALSO HAD TO REPAY THE CITY FOR THE LOSS. WOW. SO WHEN WE CATCH THEM, THE SYSTEM WORKS.

BUT IT'S HARD, IT'S. IF THEY'RE WRITING A LITTLE TAG THAT'S THIS BIG WITH A MARKER.

I MEAN, IT'S 2 OR 3 SECONDS AND THEY'RE MOVING ON.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ROGER. THANKS. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO THE FISHING KIDS. YEAH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I DO KNOW, I THINK AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A CLUB AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ACTIVE. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO THERE ISN'T ONE NOW.

YEAH. I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTER THIS. THE YACHT CLUB HAS A FISHING CLUB SOMEWHAT ACTIVE. THE ONE IN MARINA DEL REY IS MUCH MORE ACTIVE.

AND THEY TAKE KIDS OUT, TYPICALLY ON COMMERCIAL BOATS WHERE YOU GOT MORE SPACE AND INSURANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

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THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE $5 STARBUCKS CARD FOR THE FISHING KIDS.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I'VE SEEN FEWER OF THEM IN THE DOCK, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

ONE ANECDOTE, AND I THINK IT'S GENERALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR GUARD UP AND DOESN'T LET THEM OUT.

THERE'S ALSO TWO GUARDS ON PATROL AND SWING SHIFT NOW IN IN KING HARBOR.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL THE DOCK DOORS ARE FIXED RIGHT NOW.

EVERY DOCK DOOR LOCKS. AND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THERE WERE 3 OR 4 THAT WERE ALWAYS OPEN.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HELPS. WHAT I HAVE UNFORTUNATELY SEEN ANECDOTALLY IS IN THE HARBOR AREA IN THE WINTER MONTHS, IN THE WINTER AND SPRING WHEN THINGS WERE QUIETER, FEWER PEOPLE OUT THERE.

BUT I'D HEARD OF A COUPLE OF ASSAULTS. DO YOU SEE STATISTICS LIKE THAT OR DO YOU SEPARATE THE STATISTICS FOR HARBOR AREA AND PIER AREA OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THE HARBOR AREA? WELL, THERE WILL BE IN THIS REPORT.

IT'S ALL IN ONE LUMP HERE. YEAH. WELL, THIS IS JUST THREE MONTHS.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME ANYWHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ASSAULTS. NOT BARS ON THE DOCKS.

OH, ON THE DOCKS. I MEAN, THERE'S SOME. THERE WAS ONE, YOU KNOW, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT I HEARD ABOUT WHERE A GUN WAS INVOLVED AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND IT WAS KIDS AND BAD BEHAVIOR AND ADULTS.

YOU DON'T SEE IT A LOT JUST BECAUSE THAT COMMUNITY IS SO SMALL, LIKE, EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS EVERYBODY.

I DON'T SEE IT AS MUCH. I SEE IT IN, I SEE IT AROUND THE BARS MORE THAN I WOULD SEE AROUND THE DOCKS.

OKAY. DO YOU SEE ANY TREND AROUND THE DOCKS? NO.

NO. HOW IS THE TREND AROUND THE BARS THIS YEAR WITH SURF CLUB OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, CANTINA BEING SO BUSY AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE IN THE SUMMER? I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY ISSUES THERE, BUT ALSO THOSE PLACES ARE RUN REALLY WELL.

YEAH. I THINK THE OWNERS ARE PRETTY BIG STAKEHOLDERS.

THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A WHILE. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY ISSUES THERE.

I'M KIND OF HOPING THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY HELPS.

YEAH, WELL, YEAH, JUST MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE IS GOOD, BUT SOMETIMES MORE PEOPLE BRINGS MORE PROBLEMS. BUT THOSE PLACES AREN'T. WHEN SAMBA WAS THERE AND THEY WERE DOING THEIR DJ NIGHTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, IT THEY WERE DOING CLUB RUNS AND THEY WERE BRINGING IN JUST A CROWD FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA, AND NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE CITY, ABOUT THE PARKING LOT, ABOUT ANYTHING.

AND I THINK WITH THOSE TWO NEW BUSINESSES OR THREE NEW BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, THEY'RE ALL LOCALS.

THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STAKE IN THE CITY, SO I THINK IT'S BETTER.

THE CAR SHOW LAST YEAR, WHEN I WAS STILL DOWN IN THE PIER, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES.

IT WAS LIKE ONE FIGHT A LITTLE BIT OF DRINKING.

BUT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO MANY LOCALS AND STAKEHOLDERS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM.

SO FAR IT'S BEEN GOOD. IT'S NICE TO SEE THE NEW BUSINESSES DOWN THERE.

THEY REALLY PUT A THEY DID GREAT CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S IT LOOKS A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER.

YEAH. AND FINALLY GOING BACK TO TRANSIENTS LIKE THE CITY SAYS, THE TRANSIENT SITUATION IS IMPROVING, TRENDING DOWNWARDS, YOU KNOW, EVEN FUNCTIONALLY ZERO.

ARE YOU SEEING THAT TREND, TOO? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE OF AN ISSUE OR TREND IN THE WRONG WAY FROM THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT? I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MOVING ISSUE FOR SURE.

AND NONE OF THESE ARE BECOMING LIKE PERMANENT REDONDO TRANSIENTS.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD OUR REGULAR CREW IN. LILA'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB GETTING US TO FUNCTIONAL ZERO BY, YOU KNOW, HOUSING MORE THAN WE HAD. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO PUSH THEM OUT OR DUMP.

YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO THEY WOULD GIVE BUS TOKENS LIKE, HERE'S A FREE BUS RIDE, GET OUT OF THE CITY.

AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE KIND OF ATTRACTIVE IN SOME WAYS.

WE ARE WORKING I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR OF IT AT REDONDO, BUT WE HAVE A HOST GRANT, SO IT'S A HOMELESS OUTREACH GRANT.

AND SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE OFFERS EVERY WEEK OUT WORKING LITERALLY NOTHING BUT OUTREACH.

AND IT'S CAN WE PROVIDE YOU SERVICES? CAN I CALL LILA? CAN WE GET YOU HOUSED? AND WE'VE HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS STORIES.

WE HAD A GUY THAT LITERALLY MOVED TO WASHINGTON, RAN OUT OF MONEY AND GOT ON A TRAIN DOWN HERE.

IN HIS FIRST DAY IN TOWN, HE GOT MET BY A HOMELESS OUTREACH OFFICER.

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SO THE OUTREACH IS WORKING. AND WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES AND OUTREACH DOESN'T WORK, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE ENFORCEMENT.

THE CAMPING ORDINANCE IS HELPING, THE BEACH ORDINANCE IS HELPING.

SO I THINK IT'S ALL GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

LEILA LITERALLY, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT HER.

SHE IS JUST A ONE WOMAN JUGGERNAUT WITH WHAT SHE GETS DONE.

THANKS, THAT'S IT. THANKS A LOT FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS, DO YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU.

MISS YOU ON THE PIER. YEAH. SORRY. WE'LL SEE YOU.

TAKE CARE. NICE MEETING YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO INVITE UP OUR HARBOR MASTER KURT MAHONEY.

HE'S GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME TRENDS FROM THE HARBOR PATROL STANDPOINT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

I'M NOT SURE THE PROCESS. ARE YOU ABLE TO VIEW MY REPORT THROUGH YOUR COMPUTER? IT SHOULD BE ON BECAUSE I DO HAVE I PRINTED UP SOME AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE.

SO, YOU GUYS GOOD? YEAH. WE GOT A PACKET HERE.

LET ME SEE WHAT'S ON THERE NOW. YOU DO SEE WHAT'S ON THERE? OKAY. PERFECT. SOMEONE DOESN'T LET ME KNOW. I'VE GOT COPIES.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CARLSON, FROM MY PART, I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHEN BANACH IS SLATED TO COME BACK TO THE PIER AREA, BUT I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTNER WITH HIM AND DO SOME COLLABORATION AND TALK BEHIND THE SCENES AS FAR AS HAVING WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE THERE, SOME SORT OF FIELD TRIP, IF YOU WILL, WHATEVER SORT OF IDEA OR COMBINATION AND HELP WORK WITH THAT AS WELL, SO JUST FYI. SO LET'S SEE. SO I BROKE IT DOWN FOR JUST THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR.

I'VE GOT TOTALS FOR JANUARY THROUGH JUNE, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS THAT THE HARBOR PATROL WENT ON.

I'VE GOT QUARTER ONE AND QUARTER TWO. SO STARTING WITH QUARTER ONE AND A LOT OF WAYS WHEN WE TRANSITION TO QUARTER TWO, IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY SIMILAR. FROM A CALL VOLUME STANDPOINT, IT SHOWS IT'S SELF-EVIDENT.

THE BIG THREE ARE MEDICAL AIDS, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, AND MAYDAY CALLS FOR THE HARBOR PATROL.

THIS IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT. THIS IS THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF WHAT THE HARBOR PATROL DOES.

SO THAT'S NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE HIGH.

I REALLY DON'T HAVE A REFERENCE OR AN IDEA OF PAST SEA LIFE TYPE CALLS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THOSE WERE QUITE HIGH AS WELL.

AND THAT'LL REFLECT IN QUARTER TWO AS WELL. I THINK OBVIOUSLY FROM THE DOMOIC ACID ISSUE WE GOT CALLED QUITE A BIT OR THE HARBOR PATROL GOT CALLED QUITE A BIT TO DISPOSE OF SEA LION OR SEAL CARCASSES WITHIN THE HARBOR, SO.

BUT THERE'S OTHER, YOU KNOW, SMALLER CALLS THAT WENT ON DURING THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR, FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR. BUT THOSE WERE OUR THREE MAJOR ONES.

AGAIN, MEDICAL AIDS, PUBLIC ASSIST, AND THE MAYDAY CALLS.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

I'VE SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE. IT'S AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC DOWN THERE FROM, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, COMING FROM WORKING ON A FIRE ENGINE OR FIRE TRUCK FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.

I MEAN, THAT MAY SOUND SELF-EVIDENT, BUT THE PREVENTION PIECE OF IT, WE'VE GOT A SEPARATE PREVENTION BUREAU WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT WAS THE CAPACITY THAT I WAS WORKING IN PRIOR TO COMING DOWN TO THE HARBOR FOR TWO YEARS.

PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS ON THE FLOOR WORKING, RUNNING 911 CALLS.

AND THAT BUREAU IS DEDICATED TO THE PREVENTION OF FIRES, RIGHT? THE PREVENTION PIECE WITH THE HARBOR PATROL, SO I'LL GO ON PATROLS WITH THEM INTERMITTENTLY DURING THE WEEK.

AND I THE ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME THE MOST WAS THE INTERACTION WITH THE BOATING COMMUNITY DOWN THERE AND HOW THEY KIND OF KNEW EVERYONE FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES.

SO THEIR PREVENTION PIECE, IT'S NOT QUANTIFIED OR QUALIFIED WITHIN THESE STATISTICS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE HARBOR PATROL DOES ON THE DAILY THAT ISN'T REFLECTED AT ALL IN THIS.

WE CAN CERTAINLY BUILD OUT A PROGRAM TO ATTEMPT TO CAPTURE THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THEY'RE JUST OUT PATROLLING, RIGHT. AND THEY ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION WITH A BOATER, A STAND UP PADDLE BOAT, SOMEONE THAT'S ON A STAND UP PADDLE BOARD AND HAVING A CONVERSATION. AND THEY'RE SEEING THINGS THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING OR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS CATTYWAMPUS ABOUT THEIR, HEY, DID YOU RECOGNIZE OR DID YOU KNOW DOT DOT DOT FILL IN THE BLANK. RIGHT. SO THAT'S A BIG PIECE TOO, OF WHAT THEY, THEY DO DOWN THERE AND A PIECE THAT I WAS IGNORANT TO AND HAD NO IDEA ABOUT.

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I PUT TOGETHER AGAIN, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, QUITE A FEW ANIMAL RESCUES.

AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE REFERENCE FOR THE PRIOR YEARS, BUT MAN, THAT SEEMED HIGH TO ME. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE DOMOIC ACID ISSUE, THAT'S NOT THAT SURPRISING.

OUR HARBOR PATROL DOES WORK CLOSELY WITH MARINE MAMMAL RESCUE.

WE HAVE ACCESS, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR BOAT.

WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM WHENEVER WE CAN. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, I DON'T KNOW THIS TO BE FACT, BUT THAT CAN BE A STRUGGLE WITH OTHER HARBORS.

I DON'T THINK WHETHER IT'S THE HARBOR PATROL OR POLICE, WHOEVER HAS PURVIEW OVER THE HARBORS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE GETTING ACCESS TO A BOAT TO FACILITATE WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED TO DO IS, HAPPENS AS OFTEN AS IT DOES IN REDONDO BEACH.

SO WE VALUE THE THE RELATIONSHIP. WE ENJOY THE RELATIONSHIP.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND TRY AND HELP THEM MANAGE THEIR MISSION.

SO THAT WAS JUST INTERESTING TO ME, THE TOTAL OF A SEA CALLS.

THERE WERE SOME EVENTS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IN THE HARBOR.

IF WE HAVE ANY OF THE PICTURES THAT ARE IN THERE.

IN THAT SITE? YEAH. SO IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, I WAS OUT THAT DAY WHEN THEY LAUNCHED THE SHARK BUOY OFF THE COAST HERE WITH CAL STATE LONG BEACH, SHARK LAB. SO THAT WAS IN JULY. THESE ARE TWO OF THE THE YOUNG GENTLEMEN THAT ARE WORKING ON THEIR PHDS CURRENTLY WITH DOCTOR LOWE.

AND SO WE HAD THEM OUT THERE. THEY WERE GIVING US THE RUNDOWN ON THAT BOY.

AND SO WE ASSISTED WITH THAT. AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE MARINE MAMMAL CARE FOLKS WE'RE ENGAGED WITH CAL STATE LONG BEACH.

WE WANT TO ASSIST THEM. HELP THEM WHERE WE CAN.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BUOY AS WELL. SO WE'RE IN COORDINATION WITH DOCTOR LOWE.

IF THERE'S A BIG STORM EVENT THAT'S DUE. HEY, MAYBE WE NEED TO PULL THE BUOY.

GET IT OUT OF THE WATER SO IT'S NOT DAMAGED ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO AGAIN. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED.

ACCESS TO THE GREATER OCEAN PIER HARBOR AREA.

AND IF THE SCHEDULE ALLOWS SANDS CALLS, RIGHT.

THEN WE'RE OUT THERE HELPING AND ASSISTING WHERE WE CAN. SO I JUST SNAPPED SOME QUICK PICS OF THE GENTLEMAN IN THE WATER AND GETTING THAT THING ALL SET UP.

SO WE ALSO RECENTLY WE HAD, WE. ANNUALLY WE DO SIMULATED BOAT FIRES, IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, DOWN IN THE HARBOR. SO WE CURRENTLY ARE TRAINING CAPTAIN BEN BELLANTE WHO'S BEEN IN THAT POSITION.

THAT POSITION WAS CREATED A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.

THAT WAS A FOCUS OF HIS IN THE SPRING ON HIS SCHEDULE.

SO I COORDINATED THAT WITH HIM. THIS WAS ACTUALLY AT THE END OF THE EVOLUTION.

BUT IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY MORE THAN THAT AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR WE'RE DOWN THERE WITH THE LAND BASED CREWS PULLING HOES WITH ALL THREE SHIFTS.

THE OTHER TWO STATIONS. SOMETIMES WILL GET MANHATTAN BEACH OR SURROUNDING AGENCY INVOLVED AS WELL.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PIER HARBOR AREA CREATES SOME SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR US.

IT'S NOT A STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FIRE.

SO A BIG PIECE OF THAT IS JUST IT'S LABOR INTENSIVE GETTING HOSED WHERE WE NEED TO AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND THE APPROPRIATE WAY.

SO THIS WAS DOWN IN BASIN ONE. WE ACTUALLY DID A SIMULATION EXTENSION INTO THE KING HARBOR MARINA APARTMENTS.

SO WE ADDED SOME COMPLEXITY TO IT. BUT WHEN THERE'S CAPTAIN'S TRAINING COMING UP, ENGINEER TRAINING COMING UP, AND WE HAVE NEW FIREFIGHTERS ON, THAT'S PART OF THEIR PROBATIONARY TASKS AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, WHAT'S IT LIKE TO PUMP THE FIRE DOWN IN THE HARBOR AREA? WHERE ARE THE HYDRANTS? WHAT'S THE PRESSURE LIKE DOWN THERE? WHAT SORT OF ISSUES, COMPLICATIONS? THINGS MAYBE YOU HADN'T THOUGHT OF. THAT HAPPENED ON THE DAILY ON THE LAND SIDE CAN CHANGE DOWN IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

SO. AND THEN THE BIG PIECE IS COORDINATING WITH THE HARBOR PATROL.

SO WE ALSO HAVE L.A. COUNTY LIFEGUARDS WITH THEIR DECK GUN AND FIRE SUPPRESSION CAPABILITY.

BUT REALLY IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. BUT IN MOST INSTANCES, THE HARBOR PATROL IS ACTUALLY A BIG PIECE OF THE COORDINATION OF THE LAND BASED EFFORTS TO GET THEM IN THE PROPER PLACE AND WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE AREA SO INTIMATELY.

WELL. SO IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, THAT GOES ON FROM TIME TO TIME DOWN THERE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE VARIOUS YACHT CLUBS AND WHAT'S COME UP SEVERAL TIMES IS CONCERN, WORRY, WONDERING WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THOSE YACHT CLUBS AND HOW DO WE SUSTAIN, GROW,

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LOCAL SAILING CLUB. AND SO THE INSTRUCTOR CAME DOWN WITH SOME YOUNG KIDDOS, SOME FUTURE SAILORS, BOATERS, AND WE JUST WE DID A WHOLE AFTERNOON WITH THEM, AND WE SHOWED THEM THESE ARE OUR OPERATIONS.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THESE ARE SOME THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON THE WATER. SO THERE IS A SAFETY ELEMENT RIGHT.

THE EDUCATION PIECE OF IT AS WELL. SO WE LOVE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT, HAVING THE YOUNGERS COME DOWN.

I TRAIN A LOT OF GIRL SCOUT, BOY SCOUT TROOPS DOWN AT STATION 3 AND CPR FIRST AID, IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT.

SO AND SOMETIMES IT SPARKS INTEREST. OH, HEY, WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A STATION DOWN HERE.

AND TELL US ABOUT THE HARBOR. SO THAT'S OUR, AT LEAST FOR OUR PART, TRYING TO CREATE SOME INTEREST WITH THE YOUNGERS AND THE SAILING DOWN IN THE HARBOR AREA. AND THEN WE DID HAVE ONE MINOR HAZMAT CLEANUP.

THERE WAS A BOAT OVER IN BASIN ONE. IT WAS CALLED IN FROM THE MARINE MANAGER THAT WAS LISTING.

THE GUYS GOT DOWN IN THE BOAT. THIS WAS IN FEBRUARY.

THE HULL WAS FILLED WITH FUEL AND OIL, SO THEY HAD TO DO THEIR THING.

THEY WERE ABLE TO CONTAIN THE SPILL AND HOLD IT THERE.

PUT OUT BOOMS. CHAD AND BRAD WERE ON DUTY THAT DAY, SO I SNAPPED A COUPLE QUICK PICS, AND THEY WERE JUST OUT THERE DOING THEIR THING.

THIS ULTIMATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SCALE IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, FISH AND GAME AND COAST GUARD.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONTAIN IT LOCALLY HERE WITH BOOMS AND HANDLE THAT AND EVENTUALLY GOT THE BOAT TOWED TO THE BOATYARD, AND HAD IT LIFTED AND DISASSEMBLED. SO THESE ARE SOME THINGS MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT, THAT THE GUYS DO DOWN FROM DOWN IN THE HARBOR FROM TIME TO TIME AS WELL.

SO JUST SOME SPECIAL INTEREST STORIES, IF YOU WILL.

SO, BUT I'M, I WANT TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME, AND I'LL TRY AND ANSWER THEM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

START WITH ROGER THIS TIME. THANKS FOR COMING.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FEES FOR RESPONSES IN SOME CASES? I MEAN, IT MAKES ME NERVOUS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUTREACH YOU DO ALSO POTENTIALLY HAVING FEES INVOLVED.

YEAH. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT SEEING. OKAY.

SO THE FEES ARE INSTITUTED AUGUST 1ST. AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LARGE CHANGES IN LIKE CALL VOLUME.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL NUMBER SUBSET.

BUT WHEN I'M LISTENING TO THE RADIO, LIKE I'M STILL HEARING CALLS COMING IN.

THERE'S STILL MAY DAYS FOR ASSISTANCE. I HAVEN'T NOTICED OR AWARE OF PEOPLE NOT UTILIZING OUR SERVICE AS A RESULT OF THE FEE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THE BIG PIECES OF IT ARE FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES.

SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAZMAT SPILL, RIGHT? THE OWNERS GONE. LIKE WE'RE GOING TO START CHARGING YOU FOR THAT, RIGHT? AND THE MATERIALS THAT WE USE. YES, PLEASE. RIGHT.

YEAH. I THINK PROBABLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING IS PROBABLY LIKE THE MAYDAY CALL, AND I'M IN TROUBLE AND LIKE.

YEAH, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW IT WORKS AND WHERE IT COMES IN.

YEAH. I THINK FOR US, THOSE CALLS ARE STILL HAPPENING.

IF YOU'RE IN TROUBLE, SOMEONE WITNESSES IT FROM THE SHORE.

YOU CALL IN CHANNEL 16, YOU CALL 911, LIKE WE'RE STILL GOING AND WE'RE MANAGING THAT.

I THINK WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE SOME CHANGES AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHEN WE DO, LET'S ROLL THE TAPE FORWARD THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC ASSIST PIECE BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHERE THAT LANDS AS FAR AS THE BOAT TOW.

SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR. PERSONNEL SERVICES SEEMS SELF-EVIDENT.

THE MAYDAY IS LIKE WE'RE STILL GOING TO RUN THOSE CALLS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S HAPPENING, I THINK WHERE WE MIGHT GET SOME PUSHBACK IS ESPECIALLY WITH THE BOAT TOWS. HISTORICALLY, IT SEEMS IN A LOT OF CASES, THE HARBOR PATROL, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, EFFECTIVE THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND THEY WILL STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

BUT NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR IT. SO WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE GUYS IS THEY GET ON SCENE SOMEONE'S, YOU KNOW, MOTORS PUTTERED OUT THERE LOOKING FOR A HAND AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, HEY, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR THIS, RIGHT? AND THE PUSHBACK OR THE ARGUMENT IS, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THAT.

I'M EITHER GOING TO FIND ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT.

TOWBOAT USA I'M GOING TO HAVE A FRIEND HELP ME OUT, SO.

WHEN THE GUYS GO OUT THERE THOUGH, THEY DON'T JUST ARBITRARILY LEAVE.

OKAY. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOOD. LIKE THEY EVALUATE THE WHOLE SITUATION. SO IF IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN DANGER LIKE AN HOUR OR TWO FROM NOW, LIKE THERE'S A CONVERSATION THAT TAKES PLACE.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S VETTED IN THE MOMENT. AND IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THEY'RE SAFE, EVERYTHING'S GOOD.

THEY'VE COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN. THEY'RE GOING TO EXERCISE THAT ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

THEN THEY EXERCISE IT AND IT IS WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW.

BUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE ACTUAL MAYDAY CALL, I'M NOT SEEING ANY.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE NOT ASKING FOR THAT DUE TO THE CHARGE.

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YEAH, I WAS NERVOUS ABOUT IT AND I EXPECTED TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS AND BLOWBACK.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING YET. YEAH, MAYBE IT JUST HASN'T HIT ENOUGH PEOPLE YET. I DON'T KNOW, WE'LL SEE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I ATTENDED THE GENERAL MEETING, MEMBERSHIP MEETING FOR PORT ROYAL, FOR KING HARBOR.

IT'S IN THE NEWSLETTER, WHICH YOU ALL ACTUALLY.

I'LL SEND OUT A COPY TOMORROW MORNING FOR THE SEPTEMBER.

WE DO HAVE THE NEWSLETTER NOW ON OUR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE ON THE MAIN PAGE.

AND THIS MONTH'S THESE STATISTICS ARE IN HERE.

BUT THE PRIOR MONTH WE PUT OUT THE INFORMATION THAT THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE WAS BEING REINSTITUTED, RIGHT. AT THOSE MEETINGS, THERE REALLY WASN'T A LOT OF PUSHBACK.

THERE WERE SOME GRUMBLINGS IN THE BACK AT PORT ROYAL, BUT WE MADE IT CLEAR TO THEM, LIKE, WE'RE NOT NOT GOING TO COME OUT RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE AN IMPETUS TO YOU NOT CALLING 911.

IF THAT'S REALLY A STRONG LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY I'M PAYING THIS BILL.

LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, RIGHT. AND AGAIN, JUST LIKE ON THE LAND SIDE, WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE CALLED, LIKE WE SHOW UP LIKE THAT'S JUST HAPPENING. AND USUALLY IT'S EMERGENT ENOUGH THAT THE PERSON THAT'S CALLED, THEY'RE IN NO POSITION ANYWAYS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT A BILL, LIKE, WE'LL JUST HANDLE IT AND THEN LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE BACKSIDE ABOUT THAT.

SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE. AND IT DOES.

AND I'VE AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT. AND OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU KNOW A HOUSE ON FIRE OR RESCUE AND EMERGENT SITUATION THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

YEAH. BUT LIKE THE LITTLE CONVERSATIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ALL DAY LONG, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO STOP BECAUSE I THINK THEY HELP A LOT.

YES. AND THERE'S OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF SOMEBODY CALLS YOU UP AND SAYS, OH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEONE SWIMMING, YOU KNOW, IS THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE CALL IS THE PERSON SWIMMING PAYING.

IF THERE'S A YOU KNOW, IF I'M CALLING BECAUSE THERE'S A SEA LION CHARGING ME, YOU KNOW, WHO GETS CHARGED? ME OR THE SEA LION. YEAH. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR.

SO IT JUST COVERS PERSONNEL SERVICES, IT COVERS BOAT TOWS.

IT'S GOING TO COVER SUBMERGED VESSELS. AND THE FOURTH CATEGORY, IT'S DRAWING A BLANK.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. IS THE STORAGE AND IMPOUND.

OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS EVERYTHING. I THOUGHT IT WAS PRACTICALLY AN HOURLY RATE.

NO, SO THOSE ARE JUST THE FOUR INCIDENTS. SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THINGS THAT WE ATTEND TO.

LIKE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, IT'S ONLY COVERING LIKE A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS.

EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE STILL DOING BUSINESS AS USUAL WITHOUT A CHARGE.

SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE.

AND THOSE ARE THE FOUR INSTANCES. SOMEHOW IN ALL THIS I HAD MISSED THAT. YEAH.

SO AND REALLY I WOULD IMAGINE AGAIN, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS BEAR OVER TIME.

YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION IN SIX MONTHS. I WOULD GUESS, IF I WERE A BETTING PERSON THAT THE BOAT TOW IS THE IS THE ONE THAT WILL HAVE THE MOST PUSHBACK AND COULD YIELD THE MOST MONEY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE OBJECTIVE, RIGHT? IS IT'S NOT JUST MAKING MONEY MAKING ENTERPRISE.

IT'S TRYING TO RECOUP SOME COSTS, SO. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ODD ONE HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TOW SERVICE HERE. RIGHT.

YEAH. RIGHT. AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE TOO. AND I'M LEARNING A LOT AS WELL.

THIS COULD BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THEIR BOATERS INSURANCE, RIGHT.

AND IT COST COULD BE RECOVERED THAT WAY. NOW HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE PREMIUMS OR WHAT SORT OF DEAL THEY HAVE WITH THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY. THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OR PARTICULARS. DEPENDS ON YOUR INSURANCE. I WOULD IMAGINE INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD AT LEAST PROVIDE ONE TOW A YEAR IF YOU SUBMITTED IT, AS PART OF THEIR WANTING TO SELL THE INSURANCE TO THE BOATER.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OVER UNDERUTILIZED PEOPLE USE THEIR BOAT INSURANCE, BUT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM, YOU KNOW. SIMILARLY, LIKE ON THE LAND SIDE, WE'RE INSTITUTING A MEDICAL AID FEE NOW GOING FORWARD.

BUT THERE'S, EVEN BEFORE WE STARTED ISSUING THE FEE, I'VE BEEN ON PLENTY OF CALLS IN MY CAREER WHERE INDIVIDUALS, NOW IT'S NOT EMERGENT, BUT THEIR MEDICAL ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT HAVING CARDIAC ARREST, BUT THEY'RE HAVING.

DOT DOT DOT. AND THIS NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE LET'S GO RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE OR THEY'RE WITH KAISER.

I NEED TO GO TO THIS HOSPITAL. AND SIMILAR TO WHAT THE HARBOR PATROL DOES ON THE WATER, WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE SITUATION ALLOWED FOR IT, RIGHT? IT WASN'T EMERGENT. HEY, THERE'S OPTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL, RIGHT? SO WE DISCUSS OPTIONS TOWBOAT USA FRIEND OR, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL CONTINUE AND THE EDUCATION WILL CONTINUE.

HEY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS I FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT THIS SOMEHOW.

I MISSED THAT SECTION. I'VE ONLY EVER CALLED FOR A TOW ONCE.

I WAS A COUPLE OF MILES OUTSIDE OF REDONDO. CALLED TOW BOAT AND THEY SAID MARINA DEL REY IS BUSY.

WE'LL SEND SAN PEDRO. THEY'LL BE THERE IN FIVE HOURS.

YEAH. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. IT CAN BE A TIME CONTROL AND CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE CALLED YOU GUYS AT A REASONABLE PRICE.

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YEAH. I JUST GOT CURIOUS ON BOAT FIRES. THOSE ARE PROBABLY VERY, VERY RARE, BUT HOW OFTEN WOULD THERE BE, YOU KNOW, GASOLINE INVOLVED IN THEM? AND WHEN YOU ARE DOING YOUR PRACTICE RUNS, I WOULD TAKE IT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE SOME KIND OF WEIRD FOAM OR SOMETHING ON THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THE ENGINES ARE EQUIPPED WITH THE FOAM. SO THAT'S PART OF WHEN WE PULL, DEPENDING ON WHAT LINE WE'RE PULLING OFF THE ENGINE, THE ENGINEER CAN ESTABLISH A FOAM LINE AND UTILIZE THE FOAM.

YEAH, 100%. SO THAT'S ALWAYS A HIGH LEVEL OF SUSPICION.

AND USUALLY OUR MAIN LINE OR INCH AND THREE QUARTER LINE ON OUR ENGINES, THEY'RE ALREADY PRE PLUMBED WITH FOAM BECAUSE IT JUST HELPS.

WE CAN USE LESS WATER. IT HELPS SUPPRESS THE FIRE A LOT QUICKER.

SO YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY A CONSIDERATION. BUT IT'S TYPICALLY THE FIRST SORT OF LINE THAT WE PULL, IF YOU WILL. NOW GETTING DOWN TO THE HARBOR A LOT OF TIMES AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO IN THE WEEDS OF LIKE OPERATIONS, BUT IT'S LIKE 2.5IN TO INCH AND THREE QUARTER AND WE'RE PUMPING IT WITH FOAM. SO WE MANAGE ALL THAT STUFF IN REAL TIME, RIGHT? BUT IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE'S FUEL, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE A TRIPLE F OR A FOAM UNIT OR FOAM LINE.

BUT THAT'S 95%. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PULLING ANYWAYS.

OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, THE FUEL IS A CONSIDERATION, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE DETERMINING FACTOR BECAUSE THAT JUST HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING. I WASN'T REALLY TRACKING VERY WELL THIS SUMMER.

IF THERE WERE A LOT OF BIG GATHERINGS LIKE WE HAD PRIOR YEARS ON THE WATER WITH A BOAT AND A CONCERT AND ILLEGAL MOORINGS AND SWIMMERS. ALL AMONGST THE BOATS AND ALL, DID WE? HOW WAS THAT THIS SUMMER? SO AS FAR AS, LIKE THOSE SPECIFIC TYPES OF CALLS, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LIKE HUGE CONCERT THAT WAS ON A BOAT ANYWHERE DOWN IN THE HARBOR. I'VE HEARD THOSE HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

RIGHT. WE'VE, WE HAD DID HAVE SEVERAL SWIMMERS IN THE WATER.

I THINK IT'S REFLECTED HERE. AT LEAST IN THE FIRST HALF.

I DON'T HAVE THE SUMMER STATISTICS. I JUST HAVE UP UNTIL JUNE.

BUT WHEN WHEN I'VE BEEN ON DUTY AND I'M MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, YOU KNOW, 7 TO 5.

BUT I'LL COME DOWN ON A FRIDAY. I'LL COME DOWN ON A SATURDAY.

I'LL JUST CHECK THINGS OUT. WHAT IS IT LIKE ON THE WEEKENDS? RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE LIKE A BIG TREND.

ARE THERE SWIMMERS IN THE HARBOR? YEAH, FROM TIME TO TIME.

EITHER IT'S SOME FIRST TIMER THAT HEARD OR THINKS, OH, I'M GOING TO GO START SWIMMING IN THE HARBOR.

AND THEY'RE JUST UNAWARE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE EDUCATION PIECE COMES IN FOR US.

BUT I'M NOT NOTICING, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, LIKE A BIG PROBLEM OR ISSUE SPECIFICALLY AROUND SWIMMERS AND CONCERTS, ESPECIALLY CONCERTS I'M NOT AWARE OF LIKE A CONCERT ON A BOAT.

I HEARD THERE WAS. YEAH, I WONDER IF OUR PERMITTING SYSTEM, YEAH, HAD AN EFFECT.

OKAY. SO THANKS. YEAH. RYAN, ANYTHING FOR. THAT WAS TO KEEP GOING.

I WAS, I STARTED SWEATING. I KNOW I HAVE NOTHING TO DO.

THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT'S NOT MY FAULT. GOODNESS.

GOTTA KEEP YOU AWAKE. NO. I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.

LISA. GOOD. THANK YOU. LEE, I JUST WANT A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. I THINK IT JUST HAPPENED THIS LAST WEEKEND.

I SAW SOMEONE POSTED ON FACEBOOK THAT SOMEBODY WAS USING, ACTUALLY, LIKE A TEACHING FOILING BOARDS IN THE HARBOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED THAT OR NOT. I HAVEN'T.

JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. AND THAT'S MY FAULT FOR NOT MAKING YOU AWARE OF THIS.

THERE WAS A COMPANY THAT'S PROPOSING ONE MAN HYDROFOIL AS A RESCUE SYSTEM FOR LA COUNTY.

THEY WERE OUT RECENTLY TESTING THAT SYSTEM FROM OUR.

AND THEY WERE OUT IN THE HARBOR DOING THAT. SO IF I HAD TO GUESS, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THIS PERSON WITNESSED AND POSTED TO FACEBOOK.

BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN LIKE, ANY LIKE LARGE NUMBER OF HYDROFOILS OR EVEN FOR THAT MATTER, IT WAS THAT PARTICULAR DAY AND THEY MADE MULTIPLE RUNS WITH IT, RIGHT? LIKE THEY WERE BETA TESTING IT. SO WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? HELP US UNDERSTAND THE SIMILAR LIKE LIKE A DRONE.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE THE APPLICATIONS. HOW CAN WE USE THIS. SO IF I HAD TO GUESS THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BUT IF WE WERE TO SEE A HYDROFOIL, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT I MEAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY MOVE THROUGH THE WATER, PRETTY DECENT CLIP. SO IF THEY HAPPEN TO COME INTO HARBOR, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE GOING WAY TOO FAST.

AND WE NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND PUT A STOP TO THAT NUMBER ONE AND EDUCATE THEM AS TO WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT, TO NOT DO THAT IN THE HARBOR, SO, YEAH. YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME, THOUGH.

ME PERSONALLY, I'M NOT A SOCIAL. I DON'T DO ANY OF THAT.

SO IF I'M BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON THAT, IT'S JUST.

IT'S NOT MY THING. I JUST. IN FACT, I JUST SAW IT JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING.

I GO, REALLY? AND YEAH, IT WASN'T IDENTIFIED AS SUCH.

AND THE PERSON WHO POSTED MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT IT WAS. YEAH, THAT'S.

AND THIS IS RIGHT PERSONAL OPINION AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S SORT OF THE UNFORTUNATE THING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU CAN KIND OF JUST POST WHATEVER,

[00:50:07]

IT'S LIKE, OKAY, BECAUSE I GOT A DAUGHTER AND SHE'S TIKTOK EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHO IS THIS THAT POSTED THIS FROM WHERE? HOW DO YOU KNOW THEM? WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS EVEN A REAL THING? RIGHT. SO THESE ARE THE CHALLENGES WITH THAT.

BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, WE KEEP AN EYE. IF WE WERE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE PUT A STOP TO IT.

I KNOW THEY'RE BECOMING MORE POPULAR. I SEE THEM QUITE A LOT AT CATALINA. THEY ARE.

AND HENCE I'VE SEEN THEM, I THINK, IN LIKE IN ALAMEDA'S BAY, WHERE.

MISSION BAY, LOTS OF THEM. SO POPULAR. THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED AS A RESCUE TYPE APPARATUS FOR THE FUTURE.

BUT YEAH, WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OF THAT. SO. OKAY.

YOU DONE? I'M DONE. YES. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE'VE MISSED YOU. NUMBER ONE NUMBER. YOU'RE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION, AND WE LOVE HAVING YOU HERE.

NEXT IS. I LOVE THE NEWSLETTER. KEEP IT UP. I REALLY LIKE IT.

AND LAST IS, I CHECKED INTO THE DANA POINT FLARE DAY.

IT WAS ONLY FOR RESIDENTS OF ORANGE COUNTY. SO IF WE COULD HAVE A FLARE DAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS OLD, OUTDATED FLARES THEY NEED TO GET RID OF.

I CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THAT. YEAH. I CALLED OH.

SO. YEAH. SO I'VE TALKED TO THE PERSON WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

I FORGET WHAT HER EXACT TITLE IS, ABOUT. SHE TOLD ME ABOUT THE FLORIDA IN DANA POINT AND WANTED ME TO SEND OUT ALL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

I GO, NO, I'M NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR ORANGE COUNTY.

AND, BUT I DID SAY WE NEED TO DO THESE NOT JUST COUNTY BY COUNTY, BUT BASICALLY HARBOR BY HARBOR.

YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY SHE'S WORKING ON ORGANIZING THAT.

AND WHO IS THIS INDIVIDUAL? HER NAME IS VIVIAN MATOUK.

AND WHAT IS HER LIKE? WHAT DOES SHE DO? WHAT IS HER? SHE'S LET'S SAY I FIND AN EMAIL FROM HER. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

I'LL GET IT TO YOU LATER. YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU PUT ME.

GIVE ME HER INFORMATION. I CAN REACH OUT TO HER BECAUSE I THINK PART.

AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I KNOW FROM A FIREWORKS PERSPECTIVE, LIKE, IT'S HARD TO GET ALL THE FIREWORKS IN GARDENA OR WHEREVER.

THEY'RE ILLEGAL. YEAH. MAYBE WE COULD PARTNER WITH LIKE, MARINA DEL REY AND HAVE, LIKE A REGIONAL TYPE THING, YOU KNOW? SO IF IT'S A COST, A COST SHARING THING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, I WOULD IMAGINE, AND I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE, RIGHT. THERE'S THE COLLECTION PIECE YOU GOT TO PAY PEOPLE TO BE THERE TO COLLECT IT ALL. HOW DO YOU DISPOSE OF IT? I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S A COST INVOLVED WITH THAT. SO SHOOT THEM. YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD THE COAST GUARD COME AND SHOW.

COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION WE COULD EXPLORE. THAT WAS FUN. AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE YOUR CADETS OR A TRAINING EVOLUTION WHERE YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT? SO I DON'T KNOW NOW IF. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS, I WOULD IMAGINE, LIKE IF THERE'S A SAFETY OFFICER, LIKE WHERE ARE THESE FLARES COMING FROM? WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO THAT COULD CREATE SOME CHALLENGES. BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY ASK THEM AND SAY, HEY, IS THIS A POSSIBILITY? AND IF SO, WHAT? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO YEAH. WELL THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. YEAH. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY REPORTS? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

I OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANKS AGAIN. YOU'RE WELCOME.

YEAH. COME ON. THANKS, KURT. WHERE ARE WE HERE? I GOT LOST IN THE PRESENTATION. ITEMS FROM STAFF.

[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]

MY TURN. I DON'T HAVE MUCH FOR YOU TONIGHT. JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATES AND DATES.

CIRCLE THE DATE FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH. WE HAVE A WATER POLO EVENT HAPPENING DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT.

THEY JUST GOT THEIR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. IT'S A ONE DAY KIND OF TEMPORARY FLOATING WATER POLO.

I WAS GOING TO SAY TRACK, COURT. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD EIGHT TEAMS THAT ARE INVOLVED, POTENTIALLY A COUPLE HIGH SCHOOLS. HARBOR PATROL WILL, OF COURSE, BE ASSISTING WITH THE SETUP AND KIND OF OVERSIGHT.

WE'VE GOT SOME LIFEGUARDS LINED UP. SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE STILL BEING WORKED OUT, BUT A PRETTY EXCITING, FIRST TIME EVENT FOR THE WATERFRONT. SEPTEMBER 23RD.

ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT DATE. WE'RE IN THE HARBOR? IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF JUST SOUTH OF THE HAND LAUNCH IN FRONT OF THE NEW CANTINA, THAT KIND OF AREA. SO THEY'LL ENTER IN OFF THE HAND, LAUNCH AND SWIM OVER.

THE PARTICIPANTS WILL JUST RIGHT OFF THE AT THE BREAKWALL THERE, BUT THE SEAWALL RIGHT THERE.

[00:55:02]

WE HAVE GONE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TWICE NOW. ONCE ON AUGUST 11TH, ONCE JUST RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

WE WENT THROUGH THE STUDIES. WE WENT THROUGH THE OPTIONS FOR IN TERMS OF LOCATIONS ON [INAUDIBLE].

WE'LL BE DOING THE SAME FOR THE PUBLIC ON SEPTEMBER 23RD.

IT'S AT THE CITY HALL LIBRARY. SECOND FLOOR DOORS OPEN AT 5:30.

PRESENTATION REALLY GETS GOING AROUND 5:50. OKAY.

WE'VE GOT SOME NEW LEASES THAT WERE JUST APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND FROM CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST IS A NEW MEXICAN RESTAURANT CALLED EL CINCO DE MAYO.

IT'S THEIR SECOND LOCATION. THEY HAVE ONE ON THE PIER.

THE SECOND LOCATION WILL LOCATE WHERE EL BAJA CHEF USED TO BE ON INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.

A PART OF THAT LEASE APPROVAL WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW SIGNAGE, NEW FACADE, WOOD FACADE, NEW WINDOWS, AND NEW PAINT. SO THAT WHOLE FACADE WILL GET AN UPDATE.

THEY'LL HAVE THE SAME BEER. YOU THOUGH, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? THEY'LL HAVE THE SAME BEER, THOUGH, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY.

HOPEFULLY. WE ALSO RECENTLY EXTENDED ANOTHER OFFICE TENANT AT PIER PLAZA, GUNGHO ENTERTAINMENT, THEY'RE KIND OF AN ONLINE GAMING COMPANY. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

WE JUST EXTENDED THEM ANOTHER YEAR. OF COURSE, WE'RE BUILDING UPON THE FOUR LEASES THAT WE APPROVED IN AUGUST.

I MADE THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS LAST TIME. ONE WAS THE DEEP END LIVE CONCERT VENUE.

LIVE MUSIC VENUE OVER AT THE LANDING, JUST UNDERNEATH EL TORITO.

AS WELL AS THE SHOW BREWERY AND A COUPLE OTHER OFFICES.

SO MONTH OVER MONTH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE, MAKE, MAKE FRONTAGE ON OUR LEASEHOLDS.

THAT'S IT FOR ME TONIGHT. WE ARE NEXT HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 13TH.

WE'LL BE WELCOMING IN A NEW COMMISSIONER, JAMIE WARWICK, AND WE'LL ALSO ELECT A NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AT THAT MEETING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FINALLY, IT'S A BIT BITTERSWEET.

TONIGHT IT IS VICKI CALLAHAN'S LAST MEETING. IT'S PROBABLY A CHALLENGE TO SUM UP TEN YEARS OF YOUR TENURE HERE, BUT I HAVE TWO PARAGRAPHS, I THINK. SHORT AND SWEET, SHORT AND SWEET.

I THINK TEN YEARS IS PROBABLY A RECORD. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GONE TO COUNTLESS MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, LONG NIGHTS.

YOU'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING GUIDE CHANGE AND REINVIGORATE OUR WATERFRONT. YOU'VE KIND OF SEEN IT ALL.

I THINK YOU WERE TELLING A STORY JUST EARLIER ABOUT YOUR FIRST YEAR OR SO ON THE DAIS, AND YOU GOT 1000 PAGES OF ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.

10,000. 10,000 PAGES OF ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.

I MEAN, TO JUMP IN WITH THAT VOLUME OF WORK IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.

YEAH. THEY CAME THEY CAME TO THE HOUSE WITH A DOLLY AND ALL THESE BOXES AND SAID, THIS IS FOR YOU.

I MEAN, YOU SAW THAT PROJECT, YOU SAW THE LAWSUITS.

I THINK WE'RE, YOU'VE NOW BEEN ON FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS OR SO WHERE IT'S LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

YOU WERE PART OF THE AMENITIES PLAN, WHICH IS A REVERSE OF CENTER COWL AND A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

I THINK YOU'RE LEAVING ON A GOOD FOOT. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGE HERE IN THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS.

A LOT. SO JOB WELL DONE, AND I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING ON THE MANY ISSUES AND PROJECTS THAT ENCOMPASS THE TIDELANDS,

[N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

AND, BILL, WE MISS YOU. I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY, SITTING COMMISSIONERS TO CARRY ON THE RICH TRADITION OF SERVING THE INTERESTS OF ALL OF REDONDO BEACH WHEN MAKING DECISIONS. I WILL MISS YOU ALL.

TERM LIMITS ARE GOOD FOR ALL. IT LEAVES ROOM FOR FRESH IDEAS AND NEW ENERGY.

I'M PROUD OF THE MANY PROJECTS UNDERWAY AND THOSE IN THE PIPELINE.

I AM MOST PROUD OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS I HELPED IMPLEMENT IN MY FIRST YEAR.

I HOPE IT REMAINS A USEFUL TOOL GOING FORWARD.

I'VE ALWAYS SPOKEN THE TRUTH. I HAVE READ ALL THE MATERIALS AND HAVE ONLY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THE WATERFRONT AND THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU ALL. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS. ROGER, SHALL WE START WITH YOU? SURE. YEAH. JUST ONE COMMENT. MAYBE OF INTEREST FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE EARLY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BOAT PARADE, THE HOLIDAY BOAT PARADE IN DECEMBER, AND SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR. WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TRY TO INVOLVE THE SOUTH END OF THE HARBOR. THE TURNING BASIN IS GOING TO MORE CLEARLY BE THE SOUTH END OF THE PARADE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE A BIG VIEWING STATION DOWN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACTIVATE IT, GET SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL BOATS INVOLVED, JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BRING IN TWO ENDS OF THE HARBOR AND HAVE A MUCH BIGGER VIEWING AREA.

IT IT SHOULD REALLY BE A LOT OF FUN. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. TOM. NOTHING FOR ME.

[01:00:03]

BUT I MENTIONED LAST MONTH THE INTERNATIONAL OUTRIGGER DISTANCE CHAMPIONSHIPS WERE IN BRAZIL.

WE HAD A NUMBER OF REDONDO RESIDENTS PARTICIPATE AND COME HOME WITH MEDALS.

WE HAD SEVERAL KIDS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL DO REALLY WELL ON THEIR TEAM.

WE HAD A STAFF MEMBER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY GOT THIRD PLACE UNITED STATES FOR WOMEN'S 50S.

WE HAD MEN, WOMEN, 60, JUST USA CAME AWAY. AND OF COURSE, ESPECIALLY THE KIDS FROM REDONDO, THAT WENT JUST A REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE. SO REALLY MULTI GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THEY HAD.

THANK YOU. LEE. I HAVE NOTHING. LISA. I HAVE NOTHING.

RYAN. I HAVE NOTHING THAT YOU WILL NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE IS NO MORE BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I WILL MOVE, I WILL DO A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I ALREADY HAVE ME NERVOUS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? I'M. I'M OPPOSED. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.