[4:30 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING] [00:00:04] SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS? NO ONE ON ZOOM, AND THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY, SO THEN WE WILL JUMP TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. [F. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION] CAN YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, PLEASE? YES, MAYOR. AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. ITEM F.1 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND LABOR NEGOTIATOR. THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE FIRES ASSOCIATION, REDONDO BEACH POLICE MANAGEMENT UNIT. REDONDO BEACH FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION AND MANAGEMENT AND CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEE GROUP. ITEM F.2 CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR. THE PROPERTIES ARE 3007 VAIL AVENUE. A PORTION OF APN 415-001-7931. PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF FELTON LANE AND 182NT STREET. APN 415-803-3900 715 JULIA AVENUE. PORTION OF PARCELS APN 750-702-0900 AND APN 750-702-1900. 1935 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. APN 404-900-8903. 807 INGLEWOOD AVENUE A PORTION OF APN 408-302-4900 HUNDRED AND 200 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, A PORTION OF APN 750-500-9902 AND FOR ITEM F.3. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL. ANTICIPATED POTENTIAL LITIGATION. THERE'S ONE POTENTIAL CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE THREE ITEMS? YES, MAYOR. FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK. I THINK FOR ITEM F.1 WE WILL HAVE DIANE STRICKFADEN OUR HR DIRECTOR WITH US. NOBODY FOR F.2, AND THEN OR NO ADDITIONAL PARTIES FOR F.2 AND THEN FOR F.3 WE WILL BE JOINED BY LISA BOND, I BELIEVE OUR OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE MATTER. AND ANDY WINJE, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION? MOVE TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY, UNANIMOUS VOTE. WE'RE RECESSING THE CLOSED SESSION. WE'LL BE BACK ON OR ABOUT 6 P.M.. TO DISCUSS ANY TO REVEAL ANY ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AND THEN GO INTO THE OPEN COUNCIL MEETING. SO THANK YOU. TO ORDER RECONVENING TO OPEN SESSION. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM CLOSED SESSION. NO REPORTABLE ACTION THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY. COULD I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR MEETING? SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, ALL FOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE OPEN SESSION. [A. CALL TO ORDER] REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY IN OUR AUDIENCE, PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE [APPLAUSE] MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NOW LET US ALL STAND FOR THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTERWARDS. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP GIANNA, WHO WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. GIANNA, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GIANNA. I'M A SEVENTH GRADER AT ADAMS MIDDLE SCHOOL. MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL IS SOCIAL STUDIES. I LOVE TAKING EVENING WALKS WITH MY FAMILY IN REDONDO BEACH. PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION. [00:05:12] OKAY. THANK YOU. MAY BE SEATED. GIANNA. GREAT JOB. COME ON UP AND GET A PICTURE WITH THE COUNCIL. OKAY. ONE MORE. COME ON UP. ARE THESE BROTHERS? ARE OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL DONE. MY CLASS [INAUDIBLE] I WANTED TO DO THE PLEDGE, AND I RAISED MY HAND. WAY TO GO. WE ALSO HAVE A YOUTH COMMISSION, AND WE NEED SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS, SO PAY ATTENTION. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, TOO. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. OKAY. PRESENTATIONS. PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB [D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS] 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S AN HONOR TO OFFICIALLY PROCLAIM HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH OBSERVED FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH. MAY I CALL UP SOUTH BAY RESIDENT AND AUTHOR ALEX MORENO AREYAN TO COME UP HERE WITH ME. THIS MONTH WE CELEBRATE THE RICH HISTORY, CULTURE AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF HISPANIC AND LATINO COMMUNITIES BOTH ACROSS OUR NATION AND RIGHT HERE IN REDONDO BEACH. HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH BEGINS SEPTEMBER 15TH, A DATE THAT COINCIDES WITH THE INDEPENDENCE ANNIVERSARIES OF SEVERAL LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES, INCLUDING COSTA RICA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, AND NICARAGUA. MEXICO CELEBRATES ITS INDEPENDENCE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH AND CHILE ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, MAKING THIS A DEEPLY MEANINGFUL TIME FOR MANY FAMILIES ACROSS THE HEMISPHERE. HERE IN REDONDO BEACH, WE ARE PROUD OF OUR VIBRANT HISPANIC AND LATINO COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE WHOSE HISTORIES, TRADITIONS, AND HARD WORK HAVE HELPED US SHAPE THE IDENTITY AND VITALITY OF OUR CITY. FROM EDUCATION AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP TO THE ARTS, PUBLIC SERVICE AND BEYOND, LATINO VOICES ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. TODAY, WE ARE ESPECIALLY HONORED TO HAVE MR. AREYAN, WHOSE BOOK BEACH MEXICAN ASSIMILATION AND IDENTITY IN REDONDO BEACH, EXPLORES MEXICAN AMERICAN EXPERIENCE IN A UNIQUE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL CONTEXT. HE WROTE TWO OTHER BOOKS AS WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THROUGH THIS WRITING, MR. AREYAN OFFERS NOT ONLY PERSONAL AND CULTURAL INSIGHT, BUT ALSO HELPS DOCUMENT AND ELEVATE VOICES THAT TOO OFTEN HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED IN MAINSTREAM LIVES. HIS PRESENCE HERE REMINDS US THAT IDENTITY IS LAYERED, EVOLVING, AND ROOTED IN PLACE AND THAT CITIES LIKE OURS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO COEXIST WITHIN THEM. HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS A TIME TO CELEBRATE, BUT ALSO A TIME TO REFLECT. IT INVITES US TO THINK ABOUT HERITAGE AND RESILIENCE, ABOUT THE POWER OF STORYTELLING, AND ABOUT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE'S CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SEEN AND VALUED. I ENCOURAGE ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO ATTEND EVENTS, READ BOOKS, SUPPORT LATINO OWNED BUSINESSES, AND ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS DURING THIS MONTH. LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER, SHARE YOUR STORIES AND CELEBRATE THAT DIVERSITY THAT STRENGTHENS US. AND SO, WITH GREAT PRIDE, I HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2025 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN REDONDO BEACH. AND THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO MR. AREYAN FOR JOINING US TODAY. AREYAN, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS IMPORTANT CELEBRATION. SO WITH THAT, I WILL PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IF YOU GET A CHANCE, THIS IS ONE OF HIS THREE BOOKS. [00:10:02] SO BUY IT AND READ IT AND UNDERSTAND THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH. DO YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING BACK OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN REDONDO BEACH, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS CITY. IT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I LIVE IN TORRANCE NOW, BUT MY HEART AND MY SENTIMENTS STILL ARE WITH THE CITY. SO I'M HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO BE RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THOSE NORTH REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INVITING ME. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE HONORED WITH YOUR PRESENCE. [APPLAUSE] WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY. YOU WANT TO GET THE FAMILY UP HERE? YEAH. COME ON UP. REAL QUICK. THANKS. NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HE SIGNED MY COPY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE. OH, NICE. THANK YOU. ASSIMILATION IDENTITY IN REDONDO BEACH. OKAY. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE CITY. I HAVE A ZILLION ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT I'M GOING TO LET THE COUNCIL GO FIRST, SO MAYBE THEY CAN CHECK SOME OFF MY LIST. SO I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE TODAY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY TRAVEL EXPENSES, BUT I DID WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS COMING SATURDAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST WATER POLO MATCH IN THE HARBOR. THAT WILL BE NEXT TO THE CANTINA AND SEASIDE LAGOON IN THE SURF CLUB. THAT STARTS AT 8 A.M., AND THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE DAY WILL BE AT NOON, WHEN WE HAVE THE BATTLE OF THE SOUTH BAY BETWEEN WOMEN'S TEAMS FROM EL SEGUNDO AND MIRACOSTA. THEN PENINSULA VERSUS PALOS VERDES HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN ALSO ON SATURDAY, BERYL ELEMENTARY WILL BE CELEBRATING THEIR 100TH ANNIVERSARY. SO IT WILL BE THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AT BERYL, AND THAT WILL BE FROM 10 A.M. UNTIL 2 P.M. ON THE BLACKTOP AT BERYL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AN UNUSUAL ORDER, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT UP. SO MY NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING, FIRST ONE SINCE THE SUMMER WILL BE OCTOBER 1ST AT 6 P.M. AT THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY. AND OUR SPECIAL GUEST WILL BE LIBRARY DIRECTOR DAYNA VINKE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'RE YOU MAY NOT BE USING YET THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LIBRARY. I ATTENDED A MEETING AT THE IN LAWNDALE THIS WEEKEND REGARDING THE METRO RIGHT OF WAY AND THE FINAL EIR. IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE WITH A BUNCH OF LAWNDALE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, AND GET TO CHAT WITH THEM ABOUT OUR JOINT STRATEGIES TO TRY TO INFLUENCE METRO TOWARDS THE BEST DECISION FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE C LINE. AND I HAD ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT I CAN'T RECALL IT RIGHT NOW. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WAS PRIVILEGED TO PARTICIPATE IN A TOUR OF NORTHROP GRUMMAN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE AND WALLER HERE LAST WEEK. AND IT WAS IT WAS INCREDIBLE. SPACE PARK, AS YOU KNOW, IS PRETTY FASCINATING. THEY HAVE. I MEAN, IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT YOU CAN PUT RAW METAL IN ONE SIDE OF THE CAMPUS. AND OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OF THE CAMPUS COMES A SATELLITE. MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR SATELLITE. SO WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THEM IN REDONDO BEACH. AND THEY'RE A PRIMARY EMPLOYER. IT WAS IT WAS GREAT TO SEE JUST MIND BLOWING. DINE AROUND ARTESIA WAS GREAT. PART TWO. THE WEST SIDE OF IT LEFT VERY FULL. AND THAT'S KIND OF MORPHED INTO A REALLY AMAZING EVENT THAT NOW INCORPORATES NOT JUST THE FOOD ON ARTESIA, BUT WE HAVE ART. AND THEY HAD THE MOST ADORABLE PUPPIES THAT WERE LOOKING FOR NEW HOMES. SO THAT WAS A BIG ATTRACTION. AND OUR I ALSO GOT TO TOUR THE REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL. WE ARE ONE OF, I THINK, MAYBE THE ONLY HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS A DEDICATED, DEDICATED ALUMNI HOUSE. [00:15:10] AND IT WAS A HOUSE THAT USED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE IT KIND OF MARCHED UP THE TWO SIDES OF THE CAMPUS TO BE THE HUGE CAMPUS THAT IT IS NOW. I MEAN, THE HISTORY 1905 IS WHEN THE SCHOOL STARTED, AND WE ARE JUST SO LUCKY ALSO TO HAVE THAT CAMPUS THAT OFFERS ROBOTICS, THEATER, CERAMICS, THE ARTS. THE OPPORTUNITY THAT KIDS HAVE AT REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL IS AMAZING. I KIND OF WISH I COULD GO BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN LASTLY, DISTRICT THREE COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE AT THE BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT THIS FRIDAY AT 6 P.M IN THE BEACH CITIES MEETING ROOM. AND OBVIOUSLY IN PERSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU. ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS KALUDEROVIC AND CASTLE. THE NORTHROP GRUMMAN SITE TOUR, AS WELL AS THAT WAS, ALONG WITH A FEW MEMBERS FROM THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. GREAT TOUR. DINE AROUND ARTESIA WAS WONDERFUL. REMEMBER LAST WEEK WE ALSO HAD THE 9/11 TRIBUTE MEMORIAL OUT FRONT WHICH WAS A VERY NICE CEREMONY THAT WE HAD. I ALSO GOT TO RECOGNIZE A 100 YEAR OLD RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH IN SILVERADO NAMED JULIA CLARK LAST WEEK. GOT TO GIVE HER A LITTLE CERTIFICATE. ATTENDED THE SYSTEM DELTA 88 ACTIVATION AND ASSUMPTION OF COMMAND CEREMONY FOR GENERAL A.J. ASHBY AT THE LA AIR FORCE BASE. A DELTA IS SIMILAR TO A WING, IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. SO A WING, A WING. AND JIM WOULD PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT AIR WINGS. SO A DELTA IS THE SPACE FORCE NAME FOR THAT TYPE OF AN ORGANIZATION, AND THEY CREATED A BRAND NEW ONE AND THEN INSTALLED THE NEW COMMANDER. WAS THERE ALONG WITH MIKE JIN. MY COMMUNITY MEETING WAS LAST WEEKEND, AND I DON'T HAVE MY SCHEDULE YET FOR THE NEXT ONE, BUT IT WILL BE SOON YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN OCTOBER, MY ATTENDED THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION MEETING THIS MORNING. HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED YET. MAYBE THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI WAS GOING TO SAY. THE PERRY PARK TEEN CENTER OPENING WILL BE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25TH AT 5 P.M AND SAVING THE MAYOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, THE GROUND BREAKING FOR THE HERONDO NATURE PARK WILL BE SEPTEMBER 30TH AT 3:30 P.M., BOTH OF THOSE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. THAT'S IT FOR ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NONE TONIGHT MAYOR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, DID YOU REMEMBER THE ONE? YES. SO TWO THINGS. DINE AROUND ARTESIA, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE NRBBA FOR PUTTING THAT ON. IT WAS FANTASTIC. I THINK THE SURPRISE VENDOR THERE WAS COOKIE ZOMBIE. THEY'RE UP IN DISTRICT FIVE. THEY'RE OPEN THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND OPEN LATE NIGHT TILL MIDNIGHT, ACTUALLY SO THEY WERE FANTASTIC GIVING OUT FREE SAMPLES AND ALSO SAY THAT I HAD LUNCH TODAY WITH MO SHARIFI, WHO IS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER ALONG ARTESIA AND NORTH REDONDO, AND HE'S HIGHLY, HE PRAISES THE COUNCIL'S STEPS TO MOVE TOWARDS A 1.5 FAR ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, AND STATES THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS READY TO INVEST IN ARTESIA ONCE THAT OCCURS. MILLIONS. MILLIONS. I LIKE IT. I JUST HAVE ONE FINAL COMMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI REMINDED ME THAT I FORGOT SOMETHING. MY NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING IS ON THE 24TH AT 5:30 P.M. HERE IN THE LIBRARY ON THE SECOND FLOOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU GOT SOME OF WHAT I HAD HERE, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. OKAY. TODAY I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A NURSERY THAT'S MOVING INTO THE 190TH STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND I'M HOPEFUL AFTER THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I'M HAVING A MEETING WITH THEM FRIDAY THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO START OUR FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THE GREENBELT TO THE SEA ON PART OF THEIR PROPERTY. WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT. SO HOPEFULLY FURTHER NEWS ON THAT AFTER THE MEETING. I DID ATTEND, AS THE REST OF THE COUNCIL DID THE 9/11 TRIBUTE LAST WEEK. THAT WAS VERY NICE. APPRECIATE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER. IT WAS A IT WAS A SMALL BUT MEANINGFUL CEREMONY AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THERE IS AN ART SURVEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND GIVE SOME INPUT ON WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ART AND WHAT KIND OF ART ALONG ARTESIA. THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL OCTOBER 10TH TO GET YOUR INPUTS. THERE'S A BOAT LAUNCH WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 23RD FROM 5:30 TO 7 OVER IN THE LIBRARY. [00:20:05] I GOT TO TALK TO THE ALL THE RUNNERS AND WALKERS AND JOGGERS THAT RAN AND WALKED THE KINGS FIVE K FOR HYDROCEPHALUS THIS PAST SATURDAY, OVER 2000 PEOPLE AND AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY'VE RAISED. I'M MEETING WITH THEM THIS FRIDAY, I THINK, COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC YOU'RE GOING TO JOIN ME IN THAT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE KINGS TOGETHER. WE WILL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION TOMORROW WITH LA GALAXY ABOUT HOLDING A WORLD CUP WATCH PARTY DOWN IN SEASIDE LAGOON. SO HOPEFULLY MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO COME TO FRUITION. MIKE WITZANSKY, THE CITY MANAGER, AND I HAD A MEETING WITH THE SEVERAL OF THE STAFF FROM THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO TO BAT FOR US TO GET US THAT PLAYGROUND IN DOMINGUEZ PARK OPEN. SO FINGERS CROSSED, BUT NO PROMISES. AND THEN AS AS CHAD TALKED ABOUT, COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE TALKED ABOUT WE DO HAVE THE GEORGE FREETH OPEN WATER WATER POLO THIS SATURDAY. SO EXCITING EVENT. AND THAT'S IT FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. CAN I GET DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? [E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS THE SHORTEST OF THE TOPICS THAT WE COULD MOVE UP. YES OR NO. SO I'M GOING TO SAY NO. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. WE WILL BE GOING ON THE ORDER THAT'S PRINTED. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? YES WE DO. WE HAVE H.4 APPROVE THE ANNUAL AUDITED FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, [G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] 2024. AND MAY TRUST FUND REPORT, INTERNAL CONTROLS LETTER GOVERNANCE LETTER. J.1 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS, M.1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CHANGES TO THE RULES OF CONDUCT AND DECORUM FOR CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSION MEETINGS AND VARIOUS REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE SECTIONS PERTAINING TO THE CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. REVISED DRAFT RULES OF CONDUCT AND DECORUM FOR CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSION MEETINGS. REVISED DRAFT SEPTEMBER 8TH 15, 2025. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. [H. CONSENT CALENDAR] DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL SOMETHING FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NOTHING. NOTHING? NO. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT? I'M SORRY. H.14. YOU WANT TO PULL H.14? YES. OKAY. OTHER THAN H.14, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO PULL ANYTHING? OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF H.14. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS H.1 THROUGH H.17 EXCEPT H.14? ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. AND THERE'S AN ECOMMENT FOR H.9 UNOPPOSED, AND ALSO I NEED TO READ. AND WHAT? I NEED TO READ H.6 AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. H.6 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2509-0. WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE YET. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. JUMPING AHEAD, I DO THAT TOO. SO OKAY, SO WITH THAT CAN I GET A MOTION? WE HAVE THE MOTION. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE. AND THIS IS APPROVING ALL THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS EXCEPT H.14. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW, WILL YOU READ OFF THE. YOU HAVE TO READ. H.6 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY, RESOLUTION NUMBER CC 2509-068 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE FILING OF A CLAIM WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR FISCAL YEAR 25-26. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW TO ITEM I, EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT PULLED ITEM H.14, [I. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS] WHICH IS THE ANNUAL AUDITED FINANCE REPORTS FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2024. THE FLOOR IS YOURS COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I PULLED THIS ITEM. WE RECEIVED AS THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE MENTIONED A BLUE FOLDER [00:25:05] ON IT. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS IN GREAT DETAIL. I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER'S HERE WITH STAFF. WHAT? WHAT IS THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT WE RECEIVED HERE IN THE BLUE FOLDER? WHY DID WE RECEIVE IT? AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DOES IT ADD? I MIGHT HAVE STEPHANIE AND OUR AUDITOR, BOB, CONFIRM THIS, BUT BASICALLY IT'S AN UPDATE FROM THE MATERIAL THAT WAS CIRCULATED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY. MINOR CHANGES, I THINK, TO SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE FINAL DOCUMENT, SOME INCLUSION OF THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER, SOME OTHER THINGS. BUT IN ALL FINANCIAL RESPECTS, IT'S THE SAME. SO I'LL LET STEPHANIE AND BOB SPEAK TO IT. YEAH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THAT WE SENT TO YOU WERE THREE DOCUMENTS. WE HAD THE GOVERNANCE LETTER, INTERNAL CONTROLS LETTER, AND THE INMATE TRUST FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENT. THESE DRAFTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE WHEN WE SENT THE DOCUMENTS TO YOU LAST WEEK. SO THE GOVERNANCE, I CAN LET MR. CALLANAN SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT'S IN EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE GOVERNANCE LETTER AND INTERNAL CONTROLS LETTER EXPLAINED SOME OF THE FINDINGS ON FROM OUR AUDIT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TALK IN MORE DETAIL. SURE. GOOD EVENING. BOB CALLANAN WITH CLA. YEAH. CALLANAN. YES. CLA. AUDIT PARTNER. JUST AGAIN, THE INTERNAL CONTROL LETTER IS LISTING OF SOME FINDINGS THAT WE CAME ACROSS DURING THE COURSE OF OUR AUDIT THAT WE CONSIDERED, THAT WERE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE TO THE COUNCIL IF IT'S A MATERIAL WEAKNESS, SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCY. AND WE COME ACROSS THAT DURING THE AUDIT OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. WE BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF NOT ONLY MANAGEMENT WHEN WE CAME ACROSS IT. SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO CORRECT THINGS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO CORRECT THINGS BEFORE I COULD GIVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WHICH WERE BEFORE YOU. UNMODIFIED IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF OPINION THAT CAN BE PROVIDED ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. THE GOVERNANCE LETTER IS JUST A SYNOPSIS OF A REPORT CARD OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE AUDIT, ITS REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS THAT I HAVE WITH THE COUNCIL, AND THAT DISCUSSES THE INTERACTION BETWEEN MY STAFF AND THEIR STAFF. WHAT FINDINGS WE HAD, WHAT IF WE HAD ANY DIFFICULTIES IN THE AUDIT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CALLANAN. I'M SORRY. THEN THE INMATE TRUST FUND WAS AN ANCILLARY SEPARATE REPORT ON THE CASH BALANCE. THAT'S WITH THE INMATE TRUST FUND THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE. AND SO THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE. IT WASN'T AT THE TIME WHEN YOU GOT THE ORIGINAL INFORMATION. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. DID YOU. AND I ALSO, I'LL JUST ADD ONE ITEM THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE GOVERNANCE LETTER AND IN THE INTERNAL CONTROLS LETTER, WE, MR. CALLANAN PRESENTED TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION LAST WEEK SEPTEMBER 11TH IN THEIR PRESENTATION. WE ALSO COMMUNICATED THE SUBSTANCE OF THOSE ITEMS TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE EARLIER TODAY. SO THE SUBSTANCE OF THESE WAS AVAILABLE AND COMMUNICATED. WE ALSO ADDRESSED AT A HIGH LEVEL THE FINDINGS IN THE TRANSMITTAL MEMO. SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO GET THE FINAL VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT FROM THE AUDITORS TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL. OKAY. AND THANK YOU. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE THE FINAL LETTER FROM THE AUDITORS THAT WILL COME BACK ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. NO, NO. TYPICALLY AT THIS POINT, THERE ISN'T MUCH TO THE DATA, AND THE MATERIAL RESPECTS OF THE AUDIT ARE COMPLETE. THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THEM. THE BUDGET FINANCE COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THEM. SO GENERALLY THIS IS A RECEIVE AND FILE ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THE AUDIT IS REALLY IS COMPLETED BY OUR AUDITOR IN THIS CASE CLA. SO IT'S A RECEIVE AND FILE. WE CAN CERTAINLY RECIRCULATE AND HAVE FOR YOU THE FINAL VERSION WITHOUT THE DRAFT STAMP ON IT WHEN IT'S COMPLETE, WHICH I THINK IS IMMINENT. BUT IT'S THERE ISN'T AN ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ON THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. OKAY. AND WILL WE RECEIVE A REPORT? IF, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S REVIEWED AND INTERACTED WITH THE AUDITOR? NOT FORMALLY THE COMMITTEE. SO I'LL REPORT OUT IF YOU WANT. YOU KNOW, WE SAT THROUGH, I THINK, AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES WORTH OF DISCUSSION. WE WENT THROUGH THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS IN DETAIL FOR EACH OF THEM. SOME OF THOSE AREN'T COMPLETE YET. SO WE'VE ASKED THAT THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE COME BACK ON THE NEXT ROUND AND SHOW US ALL THE PROCESS CHANGES THAT FIX THOSE ANOMALIES IN OUR PROCESS THAT WERE FOUND IN OUR PROCESSES. AND OVERALL, WE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THIS ITEM TONIGHT. OKAY. AND APPROVE IS REALLY A STRONG WORD IN THIS DOCUMENT. IT'S TECHNICALLY A RECEIVE AND FILE OF THE OF THE AUDIT OPINION WHICH IS. SAY APPROVE HERE. YEAH I KNOW IT DOES. WE PUT THAT NOMENCLATURE IN THERE. BUT IT'S THE AUDITORS. IF YOU WE COULD IN A SENSE OBJECT OR THE AUDIT STATEMENT FROM THE AUDITOR, [00:30:06] BUT IT WOULD STILL BE THE AUDITOR STATEMENT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU PASS ON WHAT YOU PASSED ON TO US ON OUR CREDIT RATING BASED ON THIS. YEAH. I MEAN, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WE WENT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT WITH THE COMMITTEE EARLIER. MOODY'S HAS RECEIVED THE DRAFT AUDIT AND IT HAS RETAINED OUR AA1 RATING AS A RESULT. SO THAT'S POSITIVE. WE WENT THROUGH, IN SUBSTANCE THE ITEMS THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE DISCUSSED WITH THE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE MATERIAL WEAKNESSES THE FINDINGS WEREN'T UNEXPECTED. SEVERAL OF THE FINDINGS, I THINK, WERE IDENTIFIED BY OUR STAFF IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR AUDITOR. PRACTICES HAVE HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO MEET OUR NEW AUDITORS REQUIREMENTS GOING FORWARD. AND THERE'S SOME FINALIZATION THAT WILL OCCUR AS PART OF OUR NEXT MEETING WITH THE WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AS WE WORK ON THE 24-25 FISCAL YEAR AUDIT, WE'RE IMMEDIATELY TURNING OUR ATTENTION TO CLOSING OUT THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THIS ONE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LATE BECAUSE OF CHANGEOVER OF PERSONNEL. SO THAT DELAYED IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT JUMP RIGHT INTO THE NEXT ONE COMING UP AND HAVING A NEW AUDITOR WHO IS LOOKING AT THIS WITH A WITH A NEW LENS, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO MENTION THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR WITH THIS AUDITOR. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT ABNORMAL TO FIND THINGS LIKE THIS IN YOUR FIRST AUDIT. AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DECISION BY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL TO SWITCH AUDITORS TO GET FRESH EYES ON THIS KIND OF STUFF, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT WAS PRACTICE THAT HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND NONE OF IT'S EGREGIOUS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE SHOULD FIX THE FIVE ITEMS. WELL, ESCAPES AND WAYS OF OF ACCOUNTING FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN TIGHTEN UP. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF FIX IS THE RIGHT WORD, I THINK. ADJUST, RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. FORGIVE MY LAYMAN'S TERM. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. OKAY. SECOND, IF I COULD JUST ASK REAL QUICK. SO WHEN IT'S FINALIZED, WILL IT COME BACK AS A RECEIVE AND FILE ON THE CONSENT SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT? YOU CERTAINLY CAN. YES. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AS A FINAL RECEIVING FILE WITH THE FINAL DRAFT. I MEAN, WE POST IT ONLINE, IT BECOMES PART OF OUR FISCAL DEPARTMENT PAGE. WE HAVE IT THERE EVERY YEAR. IT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE PUBLICLY AS WELL AS WE CAN CIRCULATE IT THROUGH THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M HAPPY TO OFFER MY SPOT ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT IF YOU WANT TO REALLY JUMP IN DEEP ON THIS. BUT WE HEARD THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE THE DREDGING OF THE HARBOR, THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IS THAT CIP, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY IMPROVING YOU'RE MAINTAINING. SO BOOKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, ACCORDING TO THIS AUDITOR, HE WOULDN'T DO IT THAT WAY. HE'D DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO THINGS LIKE THAT, DIFFERENT COLUMNS. AND A LOT OF ACCOUNTING, ACCOUNTING INFORMATION. IT WAS ALMOST AS FUN AS THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION, BUT IT ONLY MEETS ONCE A YEAR. SO THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY HERE IS WE HAD AN UNMODIFIED OPINION. AS I SAID TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, IT DOESN'T SOUND VERY EXCITING, IT SOUNDS LIKE KIND OF A BLASÉ OPINION THAT IS THE HIGHEST OPINION YOU CAN RECEIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CALL IT THAT. IT SHOULD BE LIKE THE CLASS ONE OR GOLD STAR OPINION OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, CLEARLY SOMEBODY NOT IN MARKETING CREATED THAT TITLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT. AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF OUR NEW AUDITOR, WHO DID A DEEP DIVE IN SEVERAL AREAS THAT UPON IN SOME INSTANCES, REQUEST OF OUR FINANCE STAFF. AND WE WERE PLEASED WITH THE IDENTIFICATION AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES TO OUR JOURNAL ACCOUNTING AND RECONCILIATION PROCESS. AND WE HAVE STARTED TO IMPLEMENT THOSE. AND AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THE 24-25 AUDIT. SO ONE LAST THING BEFORE I ASK FOR THE MOTION I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU HAD INDICATED TO US THAT STAFF HAD COME FORWARD TO YOU WITH SOME OF THESE FINDINGS EVEN BEFORE YOU STARTED THE AUDIT. CORRECT. SO THEY SELF-IDENTIFIED, BROUGHT SOME QUESTIONS, AND WE LOOKED INTO IT KIND OF JOINTLY, I MEAN SEPARATELY, BUT JOINTLY BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAINTAIN MY INDEPENDENCE AND DO THAT. BUT YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MOTION? MOTION. SECONDED. I MISSED THAT. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO ATTENDEES AND NO ECOMMENTS. OKAY. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO SAY THANKS TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE DESPITE ALL THIS TURNOVER, THEY WERE ABLE TO GENERATE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS NO EASY FEAT, AND GOT TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. OKAY. SO I WILL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THAT IS A RECEIVING AND FILING THE ANNUAL AUDITED FINANCIAL REPORTS. NOW WE'LL JUMP INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. [J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. [00:35:10] THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE, AND WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST, AND I DO HAVE SOME WRITTEN REQUESTS. THE FIRST IS JIM MUELLER AND THEN HOLLY OSBORNE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK TO YOU AND A PRIVILEGE. I'M FROM DISTRICT FIVE. I SPOKE LAST WEEK ABOUT ESTABLISHING A REGULAR PUBLIC MARKET ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, A QUICK, INEXPENSIVE WAY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE ARTESIA BUSINESS DISTRICT AND STIMULATE COMMERCE THERE. FROM COUNCIL PERSON CASTLE'S QUESTION TO ME, I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT A CITY, THE CITY GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T INITIATE OR SPONSOR A PUBLIC MARKET, BUT WOULD WAIT FOR A CIVIC GROUP TO DO THAT. WELL, THAT'S A VERY PASSIVE APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT OF A BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THAT. A NUMBER OF GROUPS DO CIVIC PROJECTS IN REDONDO, SUCH AS THE ROTARY, KIWANIS, NRBBA AND OTHERS. COULD THE CITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE APPROACH THEM, MAYBE OFFER ASSISTANCE WITH PERMITTING AND SAFETY? A SIMPLE FARMERS AND ARTISANS MARKET REQUIRES LITTLE TO NO INFRASTRUCTURE OR INITIAL INVESTMENT. MANAGERS CAN BE HIRED TO ORGANIZE AND MANAGE IT, AND A MARKET WITH 15 TO 20 VENDORS WOULD BE A MODEST MONEYMAKER. I'VE MENTIONED THIS IDEA TO COUNCILPERSON OBAGI IN THE PAST BECAUSE IT'S HIS DISTRICT, BUT HE HAS BEEN KIND OF COOL TO IT, AND I'M GUESSING HIS LACK OF ENTHUSIASM IS BECAUSE HE THINKS A PUBLIC MARKET WOULD BE COMPETITION FOR HIS CROWNING ARTESIA DEVELOPMENT ACHIEVEMENT, GRUB HAUS. BUT A SIMPLE ONE DAY A WEEK MARKET WHERE PEOPLE BUY FRESH FRUIT AND VEGETABLES AND MAYBE A FEW ARTISAN ITEMS AND LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC, IS NO COMPETITION FOR GRUB HAUS. IT WOULD, IN FACT BE A COMPLIMENT. PEOPLE BUYING SOME APPLES AND TOMATOES AT THE FARMER'S MARKET MIGHT EASILY CARRY THEM TWO BLOCKS DOWN THE STREET TO HAVE LUNCH OR TAKEOUT AT GRUB HAUS. BUT THE MARKET AND GRUB HAUS GET PEOPLE ON THE STREET, AND PEOPLE ON THE STREET ARE THE KEY TO REVITALIZING ARTESIA BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE CITY MAY BE COMING TO THE REALIZATION THAT FIVE YEAR OLD AACAP IS EVEN FARTHER ON THE HORIZON BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. A REGULAR FARMER'S MARKET IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE UP AND RUNNING NOW. THERE'S ONE SHADE, OTHER SHADE THAT GETS THROWN OVER THE IDEA OF A PUBLIC MARKET ON ARTESIA. THERE ARE ALREADY A NUMBER OF THEM IN THE SOUTH BAY, BUT THE VERY NATURE OF A PUBLIC MARKET IS THAT IT'S LOCAL. THE GREENWAY LOCATION IS CENTRAL ON ARTESIA, AND FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS HIGHLY WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO ASK THE CITY DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE TO CONTACT CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY. A PUBLIC MARKET ON GREENWAY TO ARTESIA CROSSING CAN BE DONE IN REDONDO. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOLLY OSBORNE AND THEN WAYNE CRAIG. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, HOLLY OSBORNE, DISTRICT FIVE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE METRO. AND YES, I WAS AT THE MEETING ON SUNDAY. AND THANK COUNCILMAN OBAGI FOR COMING. OKAY. THE REASON I'M TALKING IS BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO GET YOU CAUGHT UP A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ YOUR EMAIL, IF YOU HAVE THE PICTURE UP, I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PICTURES. THE FIRST ONE. LET'S SEE THESE. THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE ROSE SEGMENT. THIS IS IN REDONDO BETWEEN ARTESIA AND GRANT. OKAY. SO THE FIRST DIAGRAM THAT YOU HAVE IS FROM THE FEIR. THAT MEANS IT'S HOT OFF THE PRESS. IT'S IN THE NORTH REDONDO LIBRARY AND YOU CAN SEE IT NOW, I DIDN'T MAKE A BIG CHART OF THAT, BUT IT'S ONE THAT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE THIS. OKAY. THE ON THE ON THIS DISTANCE, IT'S SEVEN FEET BETWEEN. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER. SEVEN FEET BETWEEN THE WHAT I CALL THE TRAIN STRUCTURE AND A RESIDENCE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER, BECAUSE JAMES BUTT SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE ANYTHING LESS THAN 13FT OR EVEN LESS THAN 30FT. OKAY, THAT WAS TOO CLOSE. YEAH. OKAY, SO LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. I WANT THIS, THEN SHOW YOU THIS IS MY. BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS TO SCALE, BUT I DIDN'T WRITE IT. I DID THIS CARTOON MAP OF THE FREIGHT TRAIN GOING ACROSS, AND THEN THE LRT ARE THESE TWO PINK LINES, [00:40:01] AND NOTICE IT GOES STRAIGHT ACROSS. THIS IS FOR WHAT WE CALL THE HYBRID ROAD CONDITION. AND IT'S ALSO CALLED THE TRENCH. BUT THIS IS NOT A TRENCH. IT'S JUST CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A TRENCH BEFORE IN LAWNDALE. THIS IS THAT. IT COMES STRAIGHT. THERE WAS AN EARLIER VERSION WHICH I CALL PLAIN VANILLA ROW, WHERE THE TRAIN, THE FREIGHT TRAIN WAS MOVED DOWN REALLY CLOSE TO THESE CONDOS, AND THAT'S NOT PART OF IT ANYMORE. THIS IS IT. SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS, I HAD A WONDERFUL ENGINEER FROM RETIRED ENGINEER BILL HALL. HE ACTUALLY COMPUTED THE DISTANCES FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE TRACK, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. THAT WILL BE FURTHER THAN THE EDGE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE GOING TO BE 2 TO 300 TRAINS A DAY COMING ON THE LRT, AND THE FREIGHT TRAIN IS JUST UP AND BACK. NOW I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. THIS ONE, HE DID IT FROM THE OLD DEIR AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID THE ROW WAS 101FT. IT'S NOT. IT'S LESS THAN THAT. THEY'VE MEASURED 100FT IN THEIR SURVEY RECENTLY, AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. OKAY, SO I GUESS THAT'S IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE THINGS TO TELL YOU SO THAT YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT SMARTER THAN YOU WERE BEFORE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. WAYNE CRAIG. AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. ACTUALLY, LOOKS LIKE WAYNE CRABB IN YOUR SIGNATURE. YOU KNOW, I'M SURPRISED YOU COULD READ IT. MY SIGNATURE IS SO BAD NOW [LAUGHS] I DO EVERYTHING ELECTRONICALLY NOW. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WAYNE CRAIG, A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. WE GAVE IT A TRY. WE DID OUR BEST EFFORT. WE ALLOCATED 1.3 MILLION FOR A GUN RANGE. DIDN'T GET IT. WE SPENT $200,000 OF THAT. WE HAVE ABOUT ABOUT 1.1 MILLION LEFT OVER. WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS FINANCIALLY. WE'RE $3.5 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT OR STRUCTURAL DEFICIT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE CIP PROJECTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED WITH THIS. SO I JUST ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME EFFORT. I KNOW WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT A MONTH, I UNDERSTAND. TAKE THAT MONEY, PUT IT BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND. EITHER ALLOCATE IT TOWARD CIP PROJECT OR MAYBE A CALPERS, AS WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAY HIT US MID-YEAR. SO PLEASE I ASK YOU TO DO THAT. AND ONE OTHER FINAL THOUGHT ON THAT IS THAT, WELL, I'VE COME HERE AND TALKED ABOUT THE GUN RANGE SOME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. AND I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE SOME OF YOU ON THE DAIS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, THAT I'M NOT FOR EITHER PUBLIC SAFETY OR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AT THE PODIUM, TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, ABOUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS BACK WHEN THE COUNCIL WASN'T EVEN GOING TO DO A REVIEW OR A FIRE SERVICE TO SEE WHAT THE PROBLEMS WERE. YOU KNOW, I CAME UP HERE A LOT, GOT A LOT OF FLACK OVER IT. AND IN APRIL LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, MAYOR LIGHT AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. I SAID, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A GRANT. AND WE DID IT. AND LOOK WHAT WE HAVE NOW. WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO ALL ALONG. SO, YOU KNOW, PLAYING POLITICS IS ONE THING, BUT LOOK AT THE RECORD. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE NEED TO MOVE ON. AND FRANKLY, I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST A GUN RANGE. THE ONLY, AND I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I RAN A BUSINESS WHERE 500 OF MY EMPLOYEES HAD TO GET GUN CERTIFIED EVERY QUARTER. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I HAD WAS, DO WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND AN ON A $19 MILLION RANGE THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN GET? MAYBE THE IDEA IS TO LOOK AT IT INCORPORATING IN THE NEW POLICE FACILITY WHEN WE BUILD IT PROBABLY BE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE, BE A LOT EASIER TO USE. MAYBE THAT'S THE ROUTE WE SHOULD BE GOING. IT MAKES MORE SENSE FINANCIALLY. ANYWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE LAST CARD. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO ATTENDEES AND NO ECOMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. OKAY. JUMPING DOWN TO, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING, SO NO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. WE DO HAVE AN ITEM M.1 CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS. [M. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS] LUKE, DID YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE US A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT? AND THEN I THINK I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, WHO'S PICKED UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THE WORK ON MOVING THE BALL FORWARD. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR LIGHT, LUKE SMUDE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE ITEM, AS YOU SAID, AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA AND THEN IN THE SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENT BLUE FOLDER ITEM, REPRESENT BOTH THE EXISTING TO THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR DOCUMENTS AND THEN ALSO THE NINE NINE EDITS THAT WERE PROVIDED ALONG. COMPARED WITH THE EDITS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TEM BEHRENDT THIS WEEK. AND SO THIS ITEM IS JUST TO FURTHER THE DISCUSSION ON THE STATE OF THOSE EDITS. IF ANY ADDITIONAL EDITS ARE FORTHCOMING FROM THE COUNCIL, AND THEN JUST TO DISCUSS THE GENERAL PATH FORWARD FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT DO YOU WANT TO RECAP WHERE WE'RE AT? SURE. YEAH. AND I THINK LUKE'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF DOING THAT. [00:45:04] YEAH. SO WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE ORDINANCE? EVERYBODY HAS SEEN WHAT THE CURRENT STATE OF THE ORDINANCES ARE, THEY'RE IN THE AGENDA PACKET. THEY'RE SUBSTANTIALLY DONE. SUBJECT TO ANY FURTHER INPUT FROM COUNCIL WHICH WE COULD DISCUSS TONIGHT. WHEN IT IS FINISHED I'LL MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GO THROUGH IT AND ENSURE THAT IT'S CONFORM TO LAW AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE AND OUR UPDATED CHARTER, WHICH WILL BE IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO PUBLISHING. SO THE LONG STORY SHORT ON THE ORDINANCE IS, IS IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THEY WANT TO ADD. I HAD ONE ITEM THAT WAS SUGGESTED TO ME BY OUR CITY TREASURER WHICH I'LL DISCUSS IN A MOMENT. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS, ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS, WE CAN DISCUSS THEM AND GO FROM THERE. WITH RESPECT TO THE RULES SEPARATE BUT RELATED ITEM, THE PROPOSED RULES OF CONDUCT AND DECORUM. THERE WAS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM ON THAT ON. YES. ON FRIDAY WHICH WAS A COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT WE LOOKED AT AT THE LAST MEETING AND INCORPORATING SOME ADDITIONAL EDITS THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, THE STATE OF THOSE RULES, SIMILARLY SUBSTANTIALLY DONE. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REWARDING REORGANIZING, REFORMATTING MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON A FEW OF THE ISSUES, IN PARTICULAR THOSE THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE STATE OF AFFAIRS ON THE THE RULES OF CONDUCT AND DECORUM, THE PROPOSED RULES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WE'RE BACK TONIGHT TO TO FIELD MORE FROM COUNCIL. AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. ONE ITEM I DID WANT TO MENTION. IT'S ON THE VACANCIES, WHEN TO DECLARE THOSE FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ADD SPECIFICALLY UPON THE DEATH OF A COMMISSIONER. IT'S NOT IN THERE. IT MAY ALREADY BE CAPTURED BY LAW. BUT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS ISSUE CAME UP WHEN PASSING OF OUR LAST. OKAY, THAT WAS ALL I HAD. AND SO, YEAH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO IT. THIS WEEK WAS LESS THAN LAST WEEK, SO IT SEEMS TO BE CONVERGING. CONVERGING. AND I LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF PRECISION IN THE WORDS. SO APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. YEAH. THE THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO CLARIFY, I GUESS WHEN WE TALK THIS IS PART OF ON THE RULES OF DECORUM. YES. WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT DISRUPTIVE GROUPS, I GET THAT THERE CAN BE GROUPS THAT ARE DISRUPTIVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T EJECT EVERY MEMBER OF A GROUP. IT ONLY EJECTS THE DISRUPTIVE MEMBERS OF A GROUP BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE A 20 PERSON UNION REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION HERE. HAVE FIVE OF THEM BE DISRUPTIVE, AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO KICK OUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST SITTING THERE QUIETLY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T SAY THE GROUP. IT WOULD SAY THE DISRUPTIVE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP. GOOD. GOOD POINT. AND WE WILL DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE ALSO ONE PART WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW SOCIAL MEDIA, THE USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I GET IT. I THINK PERHAPS, MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT THE CITY CREATES THAT, THAT DEFINES THIS A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID. BUT IT PRETTY MUCH SAYS, YOU KNOW, BEHAVE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY BEHAVE OR SOMETHING, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF IT'S ALL THERE YET. I'M, I DON'T HAVE EDITS FOR IT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WITHOUT GETTING INTO LOTS OF EXTENSIVE STUFF THAT I DON'T THINK WOULD BELONG IN THIS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS HAD ANY FEEDBACK OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE. I'VE HAD A LITTLE. IT'S A TRICKY ISSUE, RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS. AND SO IT'S KIND OF WRITTEN AT THIS POINT. HEY, KEEP IN MIND YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY. KEEP IN MIND THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS A UNILATERAL RIGHT TO DISMISS YOU FROM THIS COMMISSION. AND IT SORT OF LEFT THERE ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN HERE. I'M GOING TO RECONNECT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN, SHOULD WE GO FURTHER? CAN WE GO FURTHER, AND IF SO. WELL, I JUST WANT TO ADD, BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT UP IS YOU COULD BE IN A POSITION OR A COMMISSIONER COULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM VOTING IF THEY'VE ALREADY MADE A DECISION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION. [00:50:07] SO YOUR STATEMENTS OFF THE DAIS COULD IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO TO REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMISSION ON THE DAIS. SO THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, AND WE'LL TIE THAT TOGETHER, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IS WHEN THAT MAYOR, THE MAYOR HAS BEEN PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT AND CLEAR. AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. SO YOU KNOW ALONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF, YOU KNOW, DISPARAGING THE CITY EMPLOYEES, OTHER CITY PEOPLE, THINGS LIKE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WHETHER OR IS IT JUST BE AWARE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S A TRICKY ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE GOOD EDITS FOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS. BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT JUST SUBJECT TO BEHAVIOR ON SOCIAL MEDIA, RIGHT? ANY PUBLIC INTERACTION TO YOUR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T WANT THEM DISPARAGING STAFF IN ANY PUBLIC INTERACTION AS THEY'RE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES IF THEY'RE SPEAKING ON CITY MATTERS THERE YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER OR COMMISSIONER, THEY REPRESENT THE CITY IN SOME FORM. SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT, SCOTT, I THINK IT IS WELL STATED OF THESE ARE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE ARE HOLDING ANYONE IN ANY POSITION ON COUNCIL OR COMMISSION. THESE ARE EXPECTATIONS AND WE DO, AS THE COUNCIL HAVE, THAT UNILATERAL RIGHT TO DISMISS SOMEONE SHOULD THAT NOT BE THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR? YEAH, I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC SET. I THINK IT'S JUST GENERALLY THESE ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS. ABSOLUTELY. AND WHERE LANGUAGE CAN BE ADDED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE WILL THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL SOMEBODY THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG IF WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. I THINK THAT'S. WHEN IT'S. YOU KNOW, AS I WOULD SAY, US AS ELECTED'S, WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY OUR, BY THE VOTERS FOR WHAT WE SAY AND WHAT WE DO. FOR COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE THAT BODY THAT HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO REPRESENT THE CITY IN THE WAY THAT WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT. SO I THINK BEING VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT DON'T DO THIS, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T DO THIS. IT'S JUST, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL HAVE JUST A GENERAL CONSENSUS OF WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT IS NOT. AND I SPECIFICALLY STAYED AWAY FROM LISTING, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD LIST FOR DAYS THE NUMBER OF OBJECTIVE CRITERIA BY WHICH WE MIGHT JUDGE SOMEBODY. BUT I STAYED AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT THERE'S NEVER AN ABSOLUTE. RIGHT. RIGHT. IT'S IT'S BY EVERYBODY'S. EVERYTHING'S COLORED BY PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS. AND THEN SECOND, YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE AN ARBITRARY. YOU DO THIS, YOU'RE OUT. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT SAYS WE EXPECT YOU TO ACT, YOU KNOW, AS GOOD REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO. IT WASN'T MEANT TO GO DOWN INTO DETAIL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOU SHALT NOT, YOU KNOW, CALL THE MAYOR BAD NAMES. THOU SHALT NOT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS INTENTIONALLY AVOIDED, AND I DID. I DID PERUSE A LOT, LOT, LOT ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT CITIES, RULES ON HOW THEY STATE THESE KIND OF THINGS FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AND SOME WERE VERY MUCH MORE PRESCRIPTIVE AND OTHERS WERE EVEN EVEN MORE VAGUE. SO I KIND OF CHOSE THE MIDDLE GROUND. ALL RIGHT. I'M FINE. I'M I ACCEPT THAT. IT'S JUST EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. I HAVE TROUBLE HEARING YOU COMING OUT. AND I BELIEVE ME, THAT'S MY WHERE I GO. AND I GUESS THE ONLY THING I HAVE WAS THE BATTLE THAT I LOST LAST TIME ABOUT GETTING PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER IN THE MEETING, BUT. I'M SORRY? PUBLIC COMMENT. I STILL THINK PUBLIC COMMENT DESERVES TO BE BEFORE CONSENT ITEMS, BUT WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION LAST WEEK, I LOST IT. I'M FINE. OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE, I JUST HAD A FEW I GUESS, EDITS TO REALLY THE HARBOR COMMISSION. SO ONE ABOUT THE THE MEMBER WHO'S A RESIDENT LIVING NEAR IN DISTRICT 1 OR 2. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO WE HAVE A 500 ON THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE A 500 FOOT LIMIT. AND HERE WE'RE SAYING 1000 FOOT LIMIT, BUT I THINK A 500 LIMIT WOULD ACTUALLY BE BETTER BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE WATERFRONT AND MORE IMPACTED BY DECISIONS DOWN THERE MORE AWARE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE WITHIN 500FT, YOU'RE EAST OR WEST OF PCH AND HAVING THINGS LIKE BOATS AND TRAILERS GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF PCH, YOU'D BE MUCH MORE IMPACTED BY THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE DECISIONS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT AS WE LOOK AT BUILDING LIKE A BOAT RAMP. [00:55:07] SO THAT WAS ONE. AND THEN ALSO THAT SAME 1000 FOOT OR DISTANCE LANGUAGE WAS ALSO ADDED TO THE RECREATIONAL USER CATEGORY AS WELL. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT ON ANY OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES. SO ONE, I THINK IT SHOULD COME OUT OF RECREATIONAL. THE RECREATIONAL USER POSITION ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION. AND THEN I WOULD MAKE 1000FT, 500FT. AND THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT I HAD. AND THEN I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR SECOND ONE ON THE RECREATIONAL USER? SO UNDER THE RECREATIONAL USER IN THERE IT HAS THAT YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHIN 1000FT OF THE WATERFRONT AS WELL. RIGHT. BUT NONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES HAVE THE 1000 FOOT RULE OTHER THAN THE DISTRICT TWO PERSON. SO FOR SOME REASON, IT WAS ADDED TO THAT OTHER CATEGORY. AND THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM WE HAVE A STATEMENT. IT'S ITEM H WHERE WE ASK THAT THE, YOU KNOW WHOEVER'S LOOKING FOR CANDIDATES, LOOK TO ALL DISTRICTS AND TRY TO INCLUDE ALL DISTRICTS IN ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION. AND I THINK THAT A WE SHOULD PULL THAT OUT OF HARBOR, BUT MAYBE MAKE THAT A GLOBAL STATEMENT FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO TRY TO GET COMMISSIONERS FROM ACROSS THE CITY TO REPRESENT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ACROSS THE CITY. SO NOT JUST ON HARBOR OR BUDGET AND FINANCE, BUT ALL THE COMMISSIONS, REALLY. I LIKE THAT, SO PULL IT UP TO THE UNIFORM CODE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL LET'S START WITH THE LAST ONE. THOSE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS. SO ON THE LAST ONE THE IDEA WOULD BE ON THE ON THE OVERARCHING UNIFORM RULES APPLYING TO ALL COMMISSIONS THAT THERE BE AN ATTEMPT WHERE PRACTICAL TO PLACE SOMEONE FROM EACH DISTRICT. RIGHT. PUTTING QUALIFICATIONS OVER RESIDENCY. WE DO HAVE SOME COMMISSIONS THAT REQUIRE RIGHT ONE FROM EACH DISTRICT UNLESS APPROVED OTHERWISE BY COUNCIL. YEAH, THAT THAT SOUNDS FINE TO ME. YEAH. AND THEN ON THE THE OTHER ITEM, WHICH APPLIES TO TWO AREAS 1000FT OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST WEEK OF THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND IF I WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE. IF THEY HAVE IF SOMEBODY CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN A HARBOR COMMISSION, IF COMMISSION DECISION, IF THEY LIVE WITHIN 1000FT OF THAT AREA, THEN THE CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED LAST TIME AND I TRY TO CAPTURE IT. WELL, WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A 3-3 AND NOTHING HAPPENS, RIGHT? BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAD TO RECUSE THEMSELVES. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS. ONE, IS THERE A NEED FOR IS THE CONFLICT ZONE 1000FT. VERSUS 500. VERSUS 500. AND IF IT IS, THEN SHOULD THAT REQUIREMENT BE INCLUDED? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT. SINCE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THAT. SO THE FPPC RULES STATE THAT IF IT'S WITHIN 500FT, THEN IT'S CLEARER THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT. IF IT'S BETWEEN 500FT AND 1000FT, IT COULD BE A CONFLICT. IF YOU LOOK INTO OTHER FACTORS, SUCH AS WOULD THERE BE AN IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENT, POTENTIAL INCOME PRODUCING, POTENTIAL HIGHEST AND BEST USE. SO THERE'S MORE OF AN EVALUATION. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, DE FACTO A CONFLICT. IT'S NOT AS CLEAR AS JUST 500FT. IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT. AND EVEN WITHIN 500FT, YOU CAN PROVE THAT IF THERE'S A CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT THE DECISION WILL NOT HAVE ANY MEASURABLE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY, IT WOULDN'T BE A CONFLICT. SO IT'S JUST QUESTIONABLE WHEN IT'S BETWEEN 500 AND 1000FT. OKAY. AND THANKS. AND I'LL LET YOU SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. MAYBE THE ISSUE IS, WELL, IF IT'S 1000FT NOW, YOU'VE PUSHED THE PERSON TOO FAR OUTSIDE OF THE WATERFRONT I MAKE, SO GO AHEAD. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD SO WE'RE WE'RE GIVEN A 500 ON THE COUNCIL 500 SQUARE FOOT RULE AROUND OUR RESIDENTS. BUT ALSO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION, IF THEY ARE, IF THEY HAVE THAT SAME THING, IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN INTEREST IN THE HARBOR THAT IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING THEIR PERSONAL FINANCIAL SITUATION, THEY WOULD NATURALLY HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES ANYWAY. SO I JUST THINK 500 WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE MORE IMPACT ON HARBOR DECISIONS. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE BUT STILL OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW. SO THERE COULD STILL BE A CONFLICT. THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK, EVEN IF IT'S BETWEEN 500 TO 1000. THERE'S JUST MORE OF AN EVALUATION. RIGHT, RIGHT. [01:00:02] OKAY. I YEAH, I MEAN THAT SOUNDS FINE. WE HEARD THE RISK OF THAT. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, I. I'M HERE TO CAPTURE THAT. SUBJECT TO INPUT FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE 500 JUST BECAUSE I THINK BEING WEST OF PCH IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THINGS THAT IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE WATERFRONT. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS FINE TO ME. AS I SAID, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAD DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. NO. AND THEN ON THE SECOND ITEM WITH THE RECREATIONAL USER, YOUR POINT WAS WHY HAVE THEM OUTSIDE THE CONFLICT ZONE? WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RECREATIONAL USERS LIVES RIGHT THERE. SO YOU DIDN'T SEE THE THE UTILITY OF THAT, I PRESUME? EXACTLY. SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK IT'S BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS, THE PIER HARBOR ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE THE VARIOUS YACHT CLUBS WHO ARE ON THE COMMISSION AS WELL, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE HARBOR. SO I THINK WE HAVE A RECREATIONAL USER WHO'S A REGULAR. THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. SOUNDS FINE TO ME. AND IF. YEAH, FINE WITH EVERYONE ELSE. I'VE STRICKEN IT AND IT'S OUT. DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE A 500 FOOT EXCLUSION ZONE FOR ANY MEMBER OF IT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT GETS ANY. IS IT ALL MEMBERS OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION? BUT THEN WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE INSIDE THE HARBOR? BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE SAY THAT IT HAS TO HAVE MEMBERS INSIDE WITH BUSINESSES THERE, THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING THEORETICALLY. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THERE'S A FINANCIAL INTEREST THERE. ONLY THINGS THAT THAT MIGHT IMPACT THEIR REVENUES OR THEIR BUSINESS DIRECTLY. MOST OF WHAT THE HARBOR COMMISSION DOES ISN'T ISN'T APPROVING, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT OR AND THEY DON'T APPROVE LEASES. SO THAT'S OUT. SO DO WE NEED A RESIDENT EXCLUSION ZONE FOR ANYBODY THEN? WHAT? SHOULD WE DO IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, NO, I'M SAYING YOU HAVE TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF REDONDO TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT. I KNOW WHY THE 500 FOOT WAS PUT IN THERE. WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BEING FACETIOUS? WE. YEAH. NOT WANTED AT ALL. THEN IT'S LIKE. AND JUST HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP TO DISCRETION. AND SOMEBODY KNOWS THEY HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES IF IT REALLY DOES AFFECT THEM. IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. BY THINKING ON IT FROM COMMISSIONER CASTLE, WAS THIS POSITION THIS PERSON MOST LIKELY WOULD BE OPINING ON DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. THAT'S PART OF ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS HOW THEY'RE IMPACTING. HENCE THE 500 FOOT ZONE SPECIFIC TO THEM AND THEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT IN HIS SECOND MENTIONED BY THE MAYOR. IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF. AND THAT'S A KIND OF A SO I'M JUST SAYING WE COULD HAVE THREE OTHER MEMBERS WHO LIVE WITHIN 500FT. THAT ARE THERE FOR SOME OTHER REASON, RIGHT? BUT THE RESIDENT CAN'T BE, BUT THE OTHER MEMBERS CAN BE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, I GUESS. IT'S I THINK IT GOES TO THE INTENT OF THIS PARTICULAR QUALIFICATION IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT. YEAH. WHICH I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO. SO YEAH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR THAT, THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE ONE, THE RESIDENT ADJACENT, THE RESIDENT ADJACENT. WHO'S GOING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THOSE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU FEEL? YES OR NO ON THAT? I'M OKAY FOR THE RESIDENT ONLY AND NOT NOT EXCLUDING ANYBODY ELSE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. YEAH. I MEAN, THE RESIDENT ONLY 500FT. AND I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO EACH COMMISSIONER RECUSING HIMSELF WHEN HE KNOWS THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT. OR SHE. OR SHE COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC, I AGREE. YOU AGREE WITH THE RESIDENT. THE JUST THE RESIDENT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. FINE WITH THAT. YEAH. I'M FINE. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE WE. OKAY. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC INPUT. I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS FOR TONIGHT ON NUMBER SIX? THE RECREATIONAL USER. NOPE. YOUR HAND WASN'T UP, SO. GO AHEAD. ANY MEMBER OF ANY COMMERCIAL HARBOR/PIER ASSOCIATION, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE PADDLE HOUSE, DOES THAT COUNT? IS THAT WHERE YOU CAN RENT PADDLES, PADDLE BOATS AND STUFF ON THE WATERFRONT? I THINK I MEAN, I THINK YOU WOULD BE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE LIKE THE WHAT'S THE OUTRIGGER CLUB? LANAKILA. THAT WOULD BE LIKE LANAKILA. AND YOU'RE A WATER USER. YOU'RE DOWN THERE ON THE WATER. WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BE A RECREATIONAL USER. THAT'S A QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU CANNOT BE. OH YEAH. SAILBOAT OR POWERBOAT OWNER OR MEMBER OF ANY COMMERCIAL HARBOR ASSOCIATION? [01:05:01] NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M READING TO KNOW. BUT A PERSON WHO JUST RENTS A SPACE AT PADDLE HOUSE. SO IF YOU'RE A MEMBER THE PADDLE HOUSE OR YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE LANAKILA CLUB, IS THAT A COMMERCIAL? I GUESS THAT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL HARBOR ASSOCIATION. NO, IT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU'RE RAISING IT GOES BACK TO QUALIFICATION A, WHICH REQUIRES SOMEBODY. IT'S BOTH A AND B, SO TWO EXISTING REQUIREMENTS B IS ONE MEMBER WILL BE SELECTED FROM A LIST OF NAMES BY ANY COMMERCIAL HARBOR OR PIER ASSOCIATION. SO THE IDEA WAS WELL FOR THIS PERSON, THE RECREATIONAL USER, LET'S MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT OVERLAPPING IN KIND OF ONE. WOULD YOU WANT TO JUST SAY JUST DOESN'T QUALIFY UNDER A OR B? LIVES OUTSIDE THAT 1000FT OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION AND DOES NOT QUALIFY UNDER SUBSECTION A OR B. YEAH. WE'LL DELETE THE FOR THE 500FT. SORRY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DELETE THAT ONE ENTIRELY FROM SIX. WE COULD, IT'S THE SAME THING. IT WOULD BE A OR B OR HERE IT IS JUST SPELLED OUT. SO AND I COULD WORK ON THAT TO ENSURE THE INTENT IS FULFILLED EITHER WAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE NO OTHER HANDS UP. ON THE RULES, ARE THE RULES INCORPORATED THE RULES OF DECORUM? ARE THEY INCORPORATED SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDINANCES? NO. RIGHT. ARE THEY REFERENCING THE ORDINANCES AT ALL? THERE'S A, THE CHARTER ALLOWS THE COUNCIL TO DEFINE THE RULES OF CONDUCT. OKAY. AND ARE THERE TEETH TO THEM? I DIDN'T GET TO READ THEM ALL YET, BUT IS THERE IS THERE SOME SORT OF REPERCUSSION FOR. I GUESS THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER WAS ASKING ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH IS WHAT'S THE REPERCUSSION FOR? I MEAN, SO LET'S SAY A COMMISSIONER GOES ONLINE AND SAYS A BUNCH OF TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT THE ASSASSINATION THAT JUST OCCURRED. THAT'S NOT CITY BUSINESS. BUT SURE, IT'S NOT CITY BUSINESS, BUT IS IT REFLECTING POSITIVELY ON THE CITY AND WHO WE'RE APPOINTING AND THE LIKE? RIGHT. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. OKAY, SO THEY HAVE TOTAL, TOTAL FREEDOM. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO. WELL, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WHEN YOU CROSS THIS LINE COMMENTING ONLINE, YOU'RE OUT NO MATTER WHAT. THERE'S NO HARD CRITERIA TODAY. AND IN THE PROPOSED IN THE PROPOSED RULE, IT SAYS WE EXPECT. IT DOESN'T SAY, BUT IT DOES CAUTION THAT WE CAN REMOVE YOU FOR ANY REASON. HOW ABOUT. OKAY. GOT IT. SO PUBLIC SPEAKER COMES OVER HERE. I'M A COMMISSIONER. I TAKE A PICTURE OF THE SPEAKER, AND I GO ONLINE AND AND TALK SMACK ABOUT WHAT THE SPEAKER SAID OR THEIR DEMEANOR AND THE LIKE. YOU AS A COMMISSIONER DO THAT? YEAH, I DO THAT. SO I GUESS YOU'RE SUBJECT TO REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IF WE TRY TO CREATE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND ONE PERSON VIOLATES IT TEN TIMES, WE REALLY WANT THEM OUT, AND ONE, ONE PERSON IS BORDERLINE, THEN THE PERSON WHO REALLY VIOLATED IT CAN SAY, WELL, YOU DIDN'T KICK THIS GUY OUT FOR DOING THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY PREFER IT THIS WAY. TELLS EVERYBODY TO BE AN ADULT AND REALIZE THEY'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY WHEN THEY TALK. SO BE CAREFUL. AND IF YOU AND IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE YOU. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL PARAPHRASING, BUT THAT'S. YEAH. OKAY, SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO I GUESS SCOTT, YOU'LL TAKE THESE AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT YOU'LL TAKE THESE AND INCORPORATE THEM. YOU'RE GOING TO BOUNCE OFF THE QUESTIONABLE ITEMS FROM, AND THEN TRY TO GET A ONCE OVER REWRITE TO MAKE SURE LEGAL IS OKAY WITH EVERYTHING AND CITY STAFF. INDEED. AND THEN WHAT? COME BACK HERE AT SOME LATER DATE? WELL, ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL WE'LL PUT IT INTO OUR NORMAL FORMATTING. WE'LL PREPARE THE ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION AND THEN GET THEM READY FOR PRESUMABLY ADOPTION AFTER THAT. AND THEN THE RULES WE WOULD CODIFY THROUGH RESOLUTION. SO WE WOULD PREPARE A RESOLUTION AS A COVER TO THE RULES. AND WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AS WELL. SO ANY ORDINANCE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST READING, SECOND READING AND ALL OF THAT. SO AS SOON AS THE DRAFTING IS DONE, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT VERSION WILL BE DISSEMINATED TO OUR TEAM HERE, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THEM IN THE FINAL FORMAT AND PREPARE THEM FOR A FUTURE AGENDA CONSIDERATION. SO WE'LL DO THAT THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. I'M KIDDING. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A FEW. I MEAN, I THINK WE MAY DO SOME OF THESE. ORDINANCES MAYBE. YEAH, WE MAY DO SOME OF THESE IN SUCCESSION. I DON'T DON'T ASSUME IT'LL BE A SINGULAR PACKAGE. WE MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF THEM. SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WERE ALREADY DRAFTED ARE KIND OF LIGHTWEIGHT ITEMS. WE MIGHT GET THOSE MOVING FIRST AND THEN BRING THE BALANCE BACK AS THEY GET READY. [01:10:02] OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED ANY MOTION TONIGHT. NO, JUST I THINK YOU'VE GIVEN THE INPUT. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE FINAL DRAFTING AND THEN WE'LL PREPARE FOR FOR CONSIDERATION AS THEY ARE READY. WE STILL HAVEN'T TAKEN PUBLIC INPUT, SO I'LL DO THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS ONE? NO. OKAY. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE RULES OF CONDUCT AND THE RELATED ORDINANCES? GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF. MARK HANSEN, KING HARBOR VOTER TWO ITEMS I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE WAS THE DISCUSSION OF THE ORDER OF AGENDA RELATIVE TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I WAS ABSOLUTELY EMPATHETIC TO THE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING, THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE STAFF HERE SPECIFICALLY WAITING BECAUSE THEY THINK MAYBE A CONSENT ITEM IS GOING TO BE BE PULLED. SO I WENT HOME AND KIND OF TRIED TO TAKE THAT ON BALANCE. AND I STILL CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 30 MINUTES FROM MAXIMUM FROM THE TIME THEY SEE PUBLIC. PARDON ME PUBLIC PARTICIPATION START. THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR WATCH, THEY CAN LEAVE, GO BACK TO THEIR OFFICE KNOWING, HEY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 30 MINUTES WERE COMING UP. THE POOR PUBLIC HAS NO IDEA. AND I'VE SAT HERE NUMEROUS NIGHTS WITH PEOPLE TEXTING ME SAYING, MARK, WHEN'S THAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THING COMING? AND I'M LOOKING AT 18 MAYBE ITEMS. IT COULD BE ZERO MINUTES. IT COULD BE TWO HOURS. OKAY. SO THE THE INCONVENIENCE LEVEL IS WAY MORE FOR PUBLIC THAN FOR OUR STAFF FOLKS IN HERE. SO I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT THE WAY I DID OVER THE LAST WEEK AND SEE IF YOU MAYBE WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT. SECOND ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS AND ACTUALLY TYPED UP SOMETHING TO SEND TO YOU SO YOU'D HAVE IT IN YOUR FILES FOR DECADES. AND INEFFICIENCY AND FRUSTRATION OF THE ACQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS FOR HARBOR COMMISSION'S, COMMISSIONERS WERE THAT THEY WERE UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTIVE. THOSE RESTRICTIONS WERE LIKELY MORE APPROPRIATE DECADES AGO, WHEN THE COMMISSION'S MORE POWERFUL PREDECESSOR BOARD EXISTED. IN RECENT DECADES, IT'S BEEN VERY INEFFICIENT AND FRUSTRATING WHEN THERE WERE CANDIDATES AVAILABLE THAT WERE HIGHLY QUALIFIED BUT DID NOT HAPPEN TO FIT THE PUBLISHED REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS. THE MAYOR'S FIRST DRAFT OF SEPTEMBER 2ND WENT A LONG WAY TOWARDS ADDRESSING THAT PROBLEM. IT STATED, TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE, LET'S UNDERLINE THAT TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE, EACH OF THE REMAINING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SHALL HAVE TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE IN ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DISCIPLINES THAN IT LISTED THE DISCIPLINES. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE DRAFT OF SEPTEMBER 7TH, THAT PHRASE, TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL, WAS DELETED AND THE DRAFT OF SEPTEMBER 11TH ALSO HAD THAT SHORT PHRASE DELETED. SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE LARGELY BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED, WITH OVERLY RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE THAT WILL LIKELY AGAIN PREVENT US FROM UTILIZING HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES WHO DON'T HAPPEN TO FIT THAT PRESET LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS. CASE IN POINT, THIS ROUND I WAS HELPING THE MAYOR GO LOOK FOR QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT HIGHLY QUALIFIED, VERY ACTIVE IN THIS CITY, A PAST COMMODORE OF A RECENT YACHT CLUB, CURRENT REAR COMMODORE OF THE ASSOCIATION OF SANTA MONICA BAY YACHT CLUBS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I COULDN'T RECOMMEND HER BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T FIT ONE OF THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. SO PLEASE TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF MAYBE YOU COULD REINSERT THAT LINE TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE MARCY GUILLERMO, BUT THERE'S NO HANDS RAISED. THERE'S NO ECOMMENTS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN AND WE HAD ONE OF THE PUBLIC, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON. DO WE WANT TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS EARLIER? SO, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. I THINK IT'S A SERVICE TO YES OR NO. YES. I MEAN, NO, I THINK IT'S FINE WHERE IT IS. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC I WOULD SAY NO FOR THE REASONS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. LET ME ASK CITY MANAGER, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IS IT A DRAG ON STAFF TO HAVE THEM SIT THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT FOR HALF AN HOUR? HALF AN HOUR? WOULD YOU WOULD YOU FROM A FROM A MORAL STANDPOINT, WOULD YOU RATHER GET THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE? I'M FINE WITH WHERE IT'S AT TODAY. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. OUR STAFF OR YOU'RE. YOU'VE BEEN SWIFT WITH CONSENT CALENDAR. IT'S NOT PROBLEMATIC IN ITS CURRENT FORM. I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL STAFF WHO ARE HERE FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. CONSIDERING CHANGING IT? NO, I UNDERSTAND, AND I UNDERSTAND AND IT'S, IF YOU WERE TO MOVE IT FORWARD IN FRONT OF CONSENT CALENDAR POTENTIALLY. YES. YOU I MEAN WE WE ARE WAITING A LITTLE BIT LONGER BUT AGAIN IT'S WE ARE WE ARE HERE TO SERVE. [01:15:02] I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US DOING THAT. SO WHAT'S THE VOTE SO FAR? WE HAVE A YES AND NO. NO. REMEMBER WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE AGENDA ANY DAY, RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. IF THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU COULD. THAT WAS WHAT YOU SETTLED ON LAST TIME WITH THE RECOGNITION THAT YOU IF YOU HAD A SUBSTANTIVE EVENING AND YOU KNEW IT WAS GOING TO TAKE LONG, YOU COULD MOVE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM FORWARD OR BACKWARD, RIGHT? BUT I GUESS THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW WHEN TO COME TO THE MEETING. RIGHT? UNTIL. SO THEY MIGHT THINK YOU'RE STARTING THE MEETING AT 6:00. WE SHOULD COME AROUND 6:30 TO BE HEARD ON PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, ON ON AGENDA. SO AFTER ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS. I HAVEN'T SEEN AN ISSUE WITH THIS OR I HAVEN'T BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE PUBLIC LIKE HAVING AN ISSUE. AND IF THEY DID, THEY CAN ALSO EMAIL A COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, HEY, I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE COULD AMEND THE AGENDA. THIS IS TRUE. AND TO BORROW THE CITY MANAGER'S PHRASE, THIS IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. SO I'LL SAY NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NO. OKAY. SO WE PUT THAT ONE TO BED. OKAY. WITH THAT CLOSING THIS ITEM. LET'S MOVE ON. OH, I GUESS I DO THAT. ITEM ANYONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ESTABLISHING A LEGISLATIVE ACTION [N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] PLATFORM FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. JANE, I THINK. JANE WILL BE INTRODUCING THIS ITEM WHILE SHE PREPARES JUST A JUST AN OVERALL BLANKET STATEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS NO SENSE OF URGENCY TONIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION. THIS IS A FIRST DRAFT. IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PLATFORM ISSUES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US INCLUDE OR CONSIDER INCLUDING, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE TONIGHT. THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR US. IT'S MEANT TO BE A FRAMEWORK, AS YOU WILL HEAR FROM JANE. IT'S ONLY EFFECTIVE IF THERE IS STRONG MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR THE POSITION STATEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT. IF THERE'S IF THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT FEEL CONTROVERSIAL TO THE COUNCIL OR ARE SUPPORTED BY A THIN MAJORITY, THEY'RE NOT WORTH INCLUDING. THIS SHOULD READ A LITTLE BIT FOR US FOR OUR VERSION OF KIND OF OF APPLE PIE AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE CONTROVERSIAL. IT'S NOT MEANT TO ADDRESS NUANCED LEGISLATION OR FRINGE LEGISLATION THAT COULD HAVE A VARIETY OF OUTCOMES. SO IT'S MEANT TO IT'S MEANT TO COVER THE BASIC KIND OF PRIMARY TOPICS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM. SO WITH THAT, MAYBE I'LL LET JANE TAKE IT AWAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. JANE CHUNG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU AS CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY MENTIONED, IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ENACTING A LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. SO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL BEGIN WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, OUTLINING ITS PURPOSE AND ROLE IN GUIDING OUR ADVOCACY EFFORTS. THEN, A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF EACH LEGISLATIVE POLICY AREA HIGHLIGHTING LEGISLATIVE POLICY PRIORITY AREAS. FOLLOWING THAT, I WILL GO OVER THE PROCESS FOR IMPLEMENTING SAID PLATFORM, INCLUDING HOW POSITION STATEMENTS ARE ISSUED AND HOW ADVOCACY IS COORDINATED WITHIN THE CITY. AND FINALLY, WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND REQUEST DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL ON NEXT STEPS. SO, TO PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND, THE LAST TIME THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ADOPTED A LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM WAS IN 2013, WHICH OUTLINED THE CITY'S GENERAL STANCE ON KEY PRIORITIES AT THE TIME. SO TONIGHT WE ARE PRESENTING A REFRESHED PLATFORM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS PLATFORM IS DESIGNED TO BE STREAMLINED AND RESPONSIVE. IT EMPOWERS THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, STAFF AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATES TO ACT QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY ON STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION. AND THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE OUR ADVOCACY EFFORTS ARE COORDINATED, TIMELY AND RESPONSIVE, AND ALIGNED WITH CITY'S VALUES. THE PLATFORM HELPS IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THAT AFFECT NOT ONLY REDONDO BEACH, BUT AS WELL AS THE BROADER SOUTH BAY REGION. WITH THIS FRAMEWORK IN PLACE, STAFF CAN RESPOND TO PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE MORE QUICKLY, WHICH REDUCES THE NEED TO BRING INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS LETTERS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. OVERALL, IT ENHANCES OUR ABILITY TO ACT IN REAL TIME WHEN LEGISLATIVE OPPORTUNITIES ARISE. I ALSO WANT TO ADD THE PLATFORM COULD COMPLEMENT THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND OTHER GUIDING POLICY DOCUMENTS, AND REFLECTS A MORE FORWARD ADVOCACY APPROACH, ENSURING A LEGISLATIVE EFFORT TO SUPPORT LONG TERM CITY GOALS. THE PROPOSED PLATFORM INCLUDES 11 PRIORITY AREAS, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND WILL PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL SUMMARIES. SO THE FIRST PRIORITY, AGAIN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, IS COASTAL ACCESS AND PRESERVATION. OUR LEGISLATIVE POSITION FOCUSES ON KEY FOUR AREAS. THE FIRST ONE IS PARTNERING WITH STATE AGENCIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION AND STATE LANDS COMMISSION TO ENHANCE AND [01:20:02] SAFEGUARD COASTAL ZONES, SUPPORT FUNDING INITIATIVES AND WATERFRONT RESTORATION, RECREATION, RECREATIONAL ACCESS AND BOATING INFRASTRUCTURE TO BENEFIT BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. THREE, SUPPORT EFFORTS TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE OUR COASTAL RESOURCES AND BEACHFRONT AMENITIES, AND FOUR OPPOSE LEGISLATION THAT UNDERMINES LOCAL CONTROL OVER COASTAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE. OUR NEXT PRIORITY AREA IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS FOUR KEY AREAS AS WELL. ONE SUPPORT RESTORATION OF REDEVELOPMENT TOOLS SUCH AS FUNDING TOOLS OR PROGRAMS, AND POWER CITIES TO DRIVE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. TWO, SUPPORT LOCAL INVESTMENT IN FILM PRODUCTION, TOURISM AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. THREE, PROMOTE POLICIES THAT GROW LOCAL TRADE AND STRENGTHEN INNOVATION IN INDUSTRIES SUCH AS AEROSPACE, MANUFACTURING AND TECHNOLOGY. FOUR, PROTECT REGIONAL ASSETS SUCH AS THE LA OR LOS ANGELES AIR FORCE BASE, WHICH PROVIDES BOTH A STRATEGIC AND ECONOMIC VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SOUTH BAY REGION. OUR THIRD PRIORITY LIST, IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, IS EMPLOYEE RELATIONS. FOUR KEY AREAS HERE. THE FIRST, SUPPORTING EFFORTS THAT PRESERVE LOCAL AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO LABOR RELATIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. TWO, SUPPORT TARGETED CHANGES TO CALPERS THAT PROMOTE GREATER TRANSPARENCY, FAIR REPRESENTATION AND COST CONTAINMENT THAT ENSURE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN PENSION MANAGEMENT. AND THREE, SUPPORT EFFORTS THAT MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF LOCALLY NEGOTIATED PENSION AGREEMENTS AND OPPOSE UNILATERAL STATE LEVEL CHANGES THAT WOULD UNDERMINE THESE AGREEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT AREA IS ENVIRONMENT, OUR FOUR KEY AREAS INCLUDE SECURING ENVIRONMENTAL FUNDING AIMED AT RESTORING ECOSYSTEMS, IMPROVING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND PREVENTING POLLUTION IN COASTAL AREAS. TWO, SUPPORT EFFORTS TO INCREASE REGIONAL WATER RELIABILITY AND PROMOTE CONSERVATION EFFORTS. THREE SUPPORT POLICIES THAT EMPOWER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO MANAGE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING PROGRAMS WITH FLEXIBILITY AND CONTROL THAT REFLECT COMMUNITY NEEDS, AND FOUR OPPOSE REGULATIONS THAT LACK FINANCIAL SUPPORT OR ARE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT THOROUGH IMPACT ANALYSIS. FOR FINANCE, WE HAVE KEY FOUR AREAS. ONE, SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT PROMOTES FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, AND LOCAL AUTHORITY THAT ENSURE LONG TERM FINANCIAL HEALTH FOR CITIES. TWO, SUPPORT CRITICAL FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS LIKE CDBG AND SECTION 8. THREE, SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT FUND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES AIMED AT MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THEN FOUR, OPPOSE LEGISLATION THAT THREATENS THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS OF MUNICIPAL BONDS, WHICH ARE CRITICAL TOOLS FOR FINANCING PUBLIC PROJECTS AFFORDABLY AND EFFICIENTLY. OUR NEXT PRIORITY AREA IS HOMELESS AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. OUR TWO KEY AREAS HERE ARE SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE ENHANCED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS AND HOMELESS COURT THAT PROVIDE COORDINATED CARE BY COMBINING HOUSING, LEGAL SUPPORT AND SOCIAL SERVICES. AND TWO, SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT ADDRESS MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THROUGH SPECIALIZED, COMMUNITY BASED APPROACHES SUCH AS INTEGRATING MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, OUTREACH TEAM AND LOCAL AGENCIES. FOR HOUSING, OUR TWO KEY AREAS WOULD BE SECURE AND SUPPORT INCREASED INVESTMENT IN LOCAL HOUSING INITIATIVES SUCH AS ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAMS LIKE PROJECT HOME KEY, WHICH OFFER A COST EFFECTIVE AND TIMELY WAY TO EXPAND HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND TWO, IMPOSE LEGISLATION THAT IMPACTS LOCAL DECISION MAKING ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE DECISIONS. FOR LIBRARY AND RECREATION SERVICES, OUR THREE KEY AREAS HERE, TO SUPPORT CONTINUED FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS THE LIBRARY AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS. TWO, OPPOSE CUTS THAT LIMIT PUBLIC ACCESS TO EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, BOOKS AND DIGITAL TOOLS, AND THREE, SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT ENHANCE CONNECTIVITY AND E-GOVERNMENT SERVICES IN OUR SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS. FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, FOUR KEY AREAS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. SUPPORT INVESTMENT IN ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE SERVICES, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, AND PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE. TWO, SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT MODERNIZE PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEMS. THREE MONITOR LEGISLATION AROUND E-BIKES AND OTHER MICROMOBILITY TRENDS. AND FOUR OPPOSE ACTIONS THAT REDUCE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, ESPECIALLY TIED TO PARKING OR TRAFFIC RELATED RESOURCES AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PRESERVE [01:25:01] REVENUE STREAMS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING SERVICE LEVELS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS ARE TWO KEY AREAS. IT INCLUDES SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT SAFEGUARDS LOCAL DECISION MAKING RELATED TO INTERNET TAXATION, INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN AND THE USE OF PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, AND TWO, OPPOSE EFFORTS TO LIMIT MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY TO REGULATE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INSTALLATION OR COLLECT FEES TIED TO INFRASTRUCTURE USE. AND THEN LASTLY, TRANSPORTATION OUR TWO KEY AREAS WOULD BE TO SUPPORT GREATER INVESTMENT IN STREET MAINTENANCE, PUBLIC TRANSIT AND CORE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO MOBILITY, SAFETY AND LONG TERM SAFETY AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND OPPOSE MANDATES THAT LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF LOCAL TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT AGENCIES, INCLUDING REJECTING PROPOSALS TO IMPOSE UNFUNDED UNFUNDED COST SHARING FOR REGIONAL SYSTEMS. SO IN ADDITION TO THESE PRIORITY AREAS, THE LEGISLATIVE OR THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM INCLUDES A PROCESS FOR IMPLEMENTING SAID PLATFORM. SO THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE MAY PROPOSE A CORRESPONDENCE REFLECTING THE CITY'S POSITION AS ALIGNED WITH THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM, AND ALL ADVOCACY EFFORTS WILL BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT OUR MESSAGING IS CONSISTENT, ACCURATE AND ALIGNED WITH THE PRIORITIES SET BY CITY COUNCIL. THE LETTERS MAY BE ISSUED IN THE FORM OF ACTUAL FORMAL LETTERS OR ELECTRONIC CORRESPONDENCE, AND WOULD BE DIRECTED TO LEGISLATORS, THEIR RESPECTIVE STAFFS, EXECUTIVE OFFICIALS OR REGULATORY BOARDS, AND ALL LETTERS DEVELOPED UNDER THIS PLATFORM WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IF LEGISLATIVE ISSUE ARISES THAT IS NOT COVERED IN THE CURRENT PLATFORM, THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S REVIEW FOR YOUR DIRECTION, AND THEN THE PLATFORM ITSELF WILL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO INCORPORATE NEW LEGISLATIVE DEVELOPMENTS, SHIFTING PRIORITIES AND ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS. SO TO CONCLUDE, THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM. SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE TO ESTABLISH SAID PLATFORM, STAFF WOULD NOT ONLY DISTRIBUTE THE APPROVED PLATFORM TO CITIES CITIES, LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATES, BUT AGAIN CREATE THAT DEDICATED WEB PAGE THAT WE WOULD POST THOSE LETTERS ON, AS WELL AS SHARE INFORMATION ON OUR PRIORITIES AND HIGHLIGHT ANY SUCCESSES RELATED TO THIS PLATFORM. SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JANE. IF I COULD, MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE MORE POINTS TO MAKE WHERE I SEE THIS BEING HELPFUL TO US AND, AND I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE. WHEN WE HAVE TIME TO ADDRESS A BILL THAT'S PENDING BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE, AND WE CAN BRING YOU A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM OR A DRAFT LETTER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, I THINK WE WOULD STILL STRIVE TO DO THAT EVEN IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THIS PLATFORM. WHAT THIS PLATFORM ALLOWS US TO DO IS PREPARE THAT LETTER BASED ON YOUR PARAMETERS AND HAVE THAT BEFORE YOU, WITHOUT A REFERRAL OR WITHOUT A DISCUSSION ITEM AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO TAKE A POSITION ON IT. RIGHT? IT EFFECTIVELY JUMP STARTS THAT PROCESS. SECONDARILY, WHAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS POTENTIALLY ACT BETWEEN COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH EXPEDITION. RIGHT. IF WE HAVE A BILL THAT IS CHANGING FORM, IT'S IN THE FINAL THROES OF A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE OR IT'S BEING STRONGLY INFLUENCED BY A PARTICULAR GROUP, AND WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO INFLUENCE THAT PROCESS IN BETWEEN COUNCIL MEETINGS. THIS ALLOWS US TO DO THAT WITH SOME CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE ACTING WITHIN YOUR YOUR GENERAL GUIDELINES AND PARAMETERS AND POLICY POSITION. ABSENT THAT RIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. WE'D HAVE TO PEN A LETTER, PERHAPS IN JUST THE MAYOR'S NAME, WITHOUT THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND SUPPORT, ETC.. SO WE'D HAVE TO GET CREATIVE, AND WE'RE NOT AS EFFECTIVE IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. THERE'S NOTHING, IN MY VIEW, THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM COMING BACK WITH A RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT LETS YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE THAT CORRESPONDENCE OR THROUGH A COMMUNIQUE TO ALL OF YOU, YOU KNOW, VIA EMAIL, ETC., TO MAKE YOU INFORMED OF THAT. SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE VIEWED AS, AS SOME TYPE OF A TOOL THAT WOULD BYPASS THE COUNCIL'S PARTICIPATION IN FUTURE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE LEGISLATURE. IT GIVES US A SPRINGBOARD, I THINK, TO OPERATE FROM AND TO ULTIMATELY MAKE MORE, MORE DECISIVE AND URGENT DECISIONS AS THEY ARISE. I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY WITH US TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FULL RECEIVE AND FILE FOR THE COUNCIL'S SAKE AND THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE ON POSITION LETTERS THAT WE MIGHT WRITE UNDER THE GUISE OF THIS, OF THIS PLATFORM. SO WITH THAT, I TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. YES. THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. THAT WAS A GREAT BRIEFING. JANE AND I LIKE THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS, AND I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MISSING. I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW. I'M SURE YOU MAY ALREADY REALIZE THIS, BUT WE'VE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON SEVERAL [01:30:07] IMPORTANT BILLS BECAUSE AS AS CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY SAID, THE LEGISLATION CHANGED IN PROCESS AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON IT, AND YOU ONLY GET 24 OR 48 HOURS TO RESPOND. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT THAT I JUST PENNED SOMETHING IN MY NAME, SAID, I'M NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THIS IS MY POSITION ON THIS. AND IT TIES, IT TIES OUR HANDS TO HAVE TO ALWAYS DRAFT THE MEMO FIRST, THEN COME TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN TRANSMIT IT BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU ONLY FIND THERE'S SO MANY BILLS GOING THROUGH THESE DAYS. YOU THERE'S NO WAY YOU KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THEM UNTIL FINALLY SOMEBODY EMAILS YOU AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT OUR POSITION ON THIS. SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THIS. I AGREE, AND I'VE TALKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT ON THIS ABOUT WHEN THERE IS TIME, BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL AND THEN TO LET MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER USED DISCRETION ON THOSE OTHER TIMES. AND I WILL REMIND YOU, ALL OF YOU ARE DELEGATES TO ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE THE CITY WHERE YOU REPRESENT US, AND YOU'RE NOT COMING BACK FOR AUTHORITY TO THE COUNCIL FOR EVERYTHING YOU SAY IN THOSE MEETINGS. SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE ENTRUST YOU GUYS TO REPRESENT US ADEQUATELY AND NOT TO GO TOO FAR AFIELD OF WHAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT, MIGHT DO OR NOT DO AND THE RESERVE. AND TO SAY THAT YOU'RE RESERVING JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU GET TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR THOSE KIND OF CONTENTIOUS ITEMS, AND I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD TRUST US THE SAME HERE. WITH THAT, I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THE DOCUMENT ON THE COASTAL ACCESS AND PRESERVATION. YOU KNOW, I THINK SEA LEVEL RISE AND RESILIENCE RELATED TO THAT NEEDS TO BE A BIG PART OF THAT. SUSTAINABILITY. I DON'T REMEMBER SOME OF YOUR WORDS IN YOUR BRIEFING ARE DIFFERENT THAN IN HERE. AND I LIKE SOME OF THE WORDS IN YOUR BRIEFING SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AND YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING HERE ABOUT I LIKE THE WAY YOU WORDED IT IN THE BRIEFING BETTER, YOU KNOW, OPPOSING OVERLY RESTRICTIVE MANDATES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT CURRENT HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES BY DRIVING FINANCIAL IMPACTS. YOU SAID YOU SAID THAT, I THINK IT WAS MORE CLEAR IN THE BRIEFING THAN IT WAS IN THE IN THIS DOCUMENT. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THIS OR NOT. ONE IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TORT REFORM AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE CITY BUDGET AND ADVOCATING FOR THAT. AND THE SECOND IS THE ALLOCATION OF INTERNET SALES TAXES. YOU KNOW, THAT IMPACTS US BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING BRICK AND MORTAR, AND IT'S ALLOCATED BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BRICK AND MORTAR YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOWN, WHICH IS COUNTERINTUITIVE. YOU THINK THOSE TOWNS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH BRICK AND MORTAR WOULD BE GETTING MORE INTERNET SALES TAXES? SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT I'D ASK TO EXPAND ON OR ADD WITH THAT, I. THE WHOLE THING IS LIT UP. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, YOU FIRST. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I THINK YOU MADE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS, INCLUDING COMPLIMENTING ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, JANE CHUNG ON PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND TAKING THE INITIATIVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU, JANE, AND THANKS TO OUR CITY MANAGER, MIKE WITZANSKY. AND I DO AGREE WITH THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE AND THE CITY MANAGER REFERENCED AS WELL. IT HAS BEEN A BENEFIT TO BRING PROPOSED LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL ON CONSENT. THOSE LETTERS, AFTER WE'VE READ THEM AND SOMETIMES MADE REVISIONS TO THEM. I THINK WE'VE ENDED UP WITH A BETTER WORK PRODUCT IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, AND IN FACT, IN SOME INSTANCES WE WENT FROM OPPOSED TO SUPPORTIVE AMENDED. SO I DO THINK WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME AND WE OFTEN DO CONTINUE TO BRING THE LETTERS TO US SO WE CAN REVIEW THEM IF EVERYTHING'S FINE, IT'S CONSENT CALENDAR AND WE'RE DONE. WITH RESPECT TO EXIGENCIES, YES. IF A BILL IS MOVING QUICKLY THROUGH A COMMITTEE AND AMENDMENTS BEEN ADDED, IT'S IMPORTANT TO US. THERE SHOULD BE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO AT LEAST SAY, HEY, WE SUPPORT THIS OR WE DON'T. IF COUNCIL IS NOT IN SESSION AND THAT HAPPENS, I MEAN, THIS MONTH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LAST TWO TUESDAYS SCHEDULED TO BE OFF. SO THE EXIGENCY I'M YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. I CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. AS LONG AS WHATEVER GOES OUT IS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER. AND I THINK THAT'S. YES, I SEE HEAD SHAKING. YES, IF THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BEING PROPOSED. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT FORM. I THINK CLEARLY THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND HAS THAT OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE IT REFLECTS [01:35:05] WHAT'S BEEN DONE. THAT COULD GO OUT CERTAINLY UNDER THE PEN OF THE MAYOR WITH THAT APPROVAL. AND SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. I THINK THE COUNCIL WOULD ASK, AND I KNOW YOU WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO IF SOMETHING DOES COME UP ON AN EXIGENCY YOU KNOW, TAKE A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT REGARDLESS OF THE NAME OF THE BILL OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO OUT WITHOUT THE REVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN ADVANCE, THAT WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BILLS AND AMENDMENTS ARE PAGE AFTER PAGE, THAT IT IN FACT REFLECTS WHATEVER IS AGREED UPON AS A LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM. OKAY. BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT REALLY DOES NEED A CLOSE LOOK. AND SO THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE. I LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT KICKOFF. MAYOR'S ALREADY MADE A FEW SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD COME IN HERE. PERHAPS. ONCE WE COALESCE AROUND SOME ISSUES AND I HOPE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN WE THEN HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DESCRIBE WHAT IT IS WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF? FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PRESENTATION THERE WAS USE OF THE WORDS LOCAL CONTROL, LOCAL AUTHORITY. IN MY EXPERIENCE AND PERHAPS THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS UP HERE, THOSE ARE KIND OF BUZZWORDS THAT ELICIT A NEGATIVE REACTION, UNFORTUNATELY, FROM SACRAMENTO LAWMAKERS, WHERE THEY JUST SHUT THE DOOR ON YOU. SO WHERE WE CAN MAYBE USE DIFFERENT DIALECT LOCAL PARTICIPATION, WE'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE. LOCAL INPUT. YOU KNOW, LET'S ENSURE THAT WE USE THAT LANGUAGE AND YOU KNOW, JUST DON'T COME OUT AS AN AFFRONT OUT OF THE GATES. THAT'S THAT'S IT. IT'S A SMALL ISSUE. AND SO. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. SURE. THANKS, JANE, FOR FOR PREPARING THIS. AND ALSO FOR GOING TO DINE AROUND ARTESIA AS WELL AS CATHERINE BUCK, THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING AND SUPPORTING THE LOCAL LOCAL BUSINESSES. I WOULD GENERALLY AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT SAID. AND SO AND I JUST REMIND THE MAYOR THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEND ANY LETTER IN YOUR OWN NAME, AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO SAY IT'S NOT FROM THE COUNCIL TO SAY I'M THE MAYOR AND I'M, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. I'M, I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY VIEWPOINT X, Y, Z. I WOULD ASK THAT THAT LETTERS THAT GET SENT, SENT OUT BASED ON EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES, JUST GET FILED AS RECEIVE AND FILE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THEM ON THE CONSENT. AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO I ALSO HAD ON MY LIST TO DEVELOP CLIMATE CHANGE RESISTANCE. YEAH. CLIMATE CHANGE RESISTANCE AND PROTECT AGAINST SEA LEVEL RISE. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE MICRO MOBILITY IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO TRANSPORTATION SUPPORT, MICRO MOBILITY SOLUTIONS AND INTEGRATION OF A COMPLETE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN, MAYBE, OR DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORDSMITH THAT. BUT SUPPORT THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION FRONT INCREASE RIDERSHIP FROM OUR TRANSIT CENTER THROUGH, YOU KNOW, NONSTOP RIDES TO TO DESTINATIONS LIKE SOFI, DODGER STADIUM, HOLLYWOOD BOWL, YOU NAME IT. TO EXTEND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THROUGH THE HAWTHORNE ROUTE. SURE. AND SURE. YEAH. MAYBE INCLUDE OUR PREFERENCE FOR TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS THAT CAUSE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO REDONDO RESIDENTS. AND. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S IT. THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I JUST HAD TWO THINGS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW THIS EVERY YEAR AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE KEY LEGISLATIVE IDEAS THAT WE WANT REPRESENTED OR CURRENT TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHATEVER YEAR THAT IS. AND THEN SECONDLY IN THERE. I FORGET WHICH CATEGORY IT WAS, BUT IT WAS THE CALPERS COMMENT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. AND I THINK IT WAS COST CONTROL. COST CONTROL. ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES AND THIS GOES BACK TO BUDGET AND FINANCE DAYS, AND WE SAW THE IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. [01:40:05] CALPERS HAS CONSISTENTLY UNDERPERFORMED THE RETURN THAT THEY'RE GUARANTEEING TO PENSIONERS. AND THE CITIES HAVE TO PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE. AND THAT'S THE CAUSE OF OUR DEFICIT THIS YEAR. I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THAT. WE EVEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION, WE WENT AS FAR AS TO LOOK AT WHAT'S OUR ABILITY TO GO TO A DIFFERENT PROVIDER IN TERMS OF GETTING OUT OF CALPERS BECAUSE THEY CONSISTENTLY UNDERPERFORM. AND BASICALLY WE ARE LOCKED IN WITH HANDCUFFS INTO CALPERS. SO WE CAN'T LEAVE. BUT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVED FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST CONSISTENTLY UNDERPERFORMED. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT COMES BACK TO THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE. BUT IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT, YOU KNOW, ON CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ON US FROM YEAR TO YEAR IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING. YEAH. AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THEIR ADJUSTMENT TO THEIR INVESTMENT STRATEGY. THEY'RE INVESTING MORE IN PRIVATE EQUITY. THEY'RE DOING THINGS THAT ARE TAKING ON MORE RISK IN ORDER TO EARN AT A HIGHER RATE. SO. RIGHT. WELL, THEY SET THEIR PATH, BUT THEN THEY UNDERPERFORM. AND WHEN THEY UNDERPERFORM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET ANY REAL BENEFIT, BUT WHEN THEY UNDERPERFORM, WE GET. YEAH. THE PROBLEM IS THE OVERPERFORMING GETS SMOOTHED OUT OVER FIVE YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, SO THE THE LOSSES GET HIT ANNUALLY. SO YEAH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD WAS YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT IS COMING TO US AS TAKING A POSITION ON SOMETHING LOCAL. THIS SEEMS TO SUGGEST MOSTLY STATE. WHAT COMES TO MIND IS METRO'S POSITION OF OF VARIOUS CITIES ON METRO AND YOU KNOW, THAT BEING I THINK ABOUT HERMOSA, THEY HAVE TAKEN A POSITION AND I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT ABRUPT MAYBE. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN THAT SITUATION. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN QUICKLY. IF IT'S AFFECTING SURROUNDING CITIES THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A POSITION ON, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS AS A COUNCIL BEFORE HAVING SOME SOMETHING AUTOMATICALLY SENT. BUT IF IT'S HELPING THEM AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO DO IT. WELL, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN HERMOSA. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I THINK THAT WOULD WARRANT MAYBE A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE IT IS SO TANGIBLE TO US. YEAH. I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE FRINGE HERE, I DON'T WANT US TO STEP OUT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND OR NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. I MEAN, PART OF THE REASON WE ALSO DO LIKE TO BRING THESE BEFORE YOU, EVEN ON A CONSENT CALENDAR BASIS, IS BECAUSE IT'S RAISING AWARENESS NOT JUST AMONG OURSELVES, BUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW TO THE LOCAL LEGISLATORS AS WELL. SO I THINK THE MORE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE FOR DISCOURSE ON THESE ISSUES, THE BETTER. YEAH. SO I SEE THIS MORE IN THE. STATE LEGISLATOR HAVING. PERFUNCTORY, THE PERFUNCTORY WORLD WHEN WE'RE REACTING TO NOT NECESSARILY A REGIONAL DECISION MADE BY METRO OR SOMEBODY, BUT WHEN WE'VE GOT A SENATE BILL THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S IN ITS CURRENT FORM, IS GOING TO MANDATE, YOU KNOW, UNFUNDED COSTS AND SERVICE DELIVERY AND IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. IF I KNOW, WITH SOME PRETTY GOOD CONFIDENCE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND IT'S CLEAR ON OUR PLATFORM. I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACT RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO DO. ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED TO USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF OF SOMETHING THAT IS IT MAY KIND OF ALIGN WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION. WE WANT IT SMARTLY. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME TWEENERS. RIGHT? YEAH. BUT ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AFFECTING IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING NEIGHBORING CITIES. I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS HERE. YEAH. AND SOMETIMES YOU MAY CHOOSE TO TAKE NO POSITION BECAUSE ON THE BALANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANT TO DO A DO NO HARM KIND OF A THING. YEAH. MORE LAYERS. SO THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. I JUST QUESTION, YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE LOCAL STUFF THAN THAN THIS WOULD BE WHEN YOU'RE A DELEGATE ON THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS YOU'RE WITH. I'M SURE YOU OPINE AS THE ITEMS COME UP THAT COULD AFFECT OTHER OTHER CITIES OR, YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS AFFECTS EVERYONE. NO, ABSOLUTELY. AND YEAH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO COME BACK TO US FOR EVERY DISCUSSION YOU HAVE WITH COUNTY ON FUNDS ALLOCATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I SEE YOUR POINT. I WAS JUST HIGHLIGHTING AN ISSUE THAT DID HAPPEN RECENTLY THAT I THINK COULD HAVE HAPPENED. [01:45:05] IT IN MY OPINION, IT SEEMED AS IF THE HERMOSA COUNCIL DIDN'T FEEL UNILATERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE POSITION THAT WAS TAKEN. YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK WE TAKE IF WE FELT IT WAS A SPLIT COUNCIL, WE'D BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL. YEAH. AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WARRANTS A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLY A SPECIAL MEETING. I DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING OF THIS IN THE, IN THE FORM OF LEGISLATION. BUT I DO THINK THE GUIDEPOST HERE AND THE POLICY STATEMENTS WOULD CARRY THROUGH TO COG CONVERSATIONS OR REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS DISCUSSIONS. I MEAN, THE PRINCIPLES IN HERE, IF THEY'RE ULTIMATELY ENDORSED BY THE FULL COUNCIL AND AGAIN, NOT BY A SLIM MAJORITY, BUT A SUPERMAJORITY, I THINK SHOULD BE GUIDEPOSTS FOR HOW WE, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT CITY INTERESTS IN LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS, WHETHER THEY'RE REGIONAL OR STATE. I AGREE, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE'RE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF THIS POLICY AND MAYBE JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME CAUTIONARY SPACES. YEAH. YES. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE DID YOU NOT TAKE YOUR HAND DOWN? OH, I DIDN'T TAKE IT DOWN. SORRY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. GREAT. GREAT JOB ON THIS REPORT. I THINK IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE, AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HERE, WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, MEANS THAT THESE ARE PRETTY UNIVERSAL. ON THE ENVIRONMENT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE WORDING NECESSARILY, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT DEALING WITH DROUGHT, LOW WATER HELPING US WITH NATIVE PLANTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THINGS IN OUR YARDS. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MANDATES THAT COME THROUGH AND SAY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS TO PUT IN ARTIFICIAL TURF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY, NO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE DROUGHT TOLERANT YARDS INSTEAD OF GRASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORDING FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WAS IN MY HEAD WHEN WE'VE GOT IN IN HERE NOW. SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT INCREASE REGIONAL WATER RELIABILITY AND CONSERVATION EFFORTS. IT'S PRETTY GENERIC, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO IS KIND OF A MICRO AND AGAIN, I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE WE RECOMMENDED SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH KIND OF TOUCHES ALL OF THAT. AND IF IT'S GENERIC ENOUGH THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S FINE TOO. BUT, AND I WOULD AND I THINK WHEN YOU GET TO THE MORE MICRO LEVEL THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE SOME CAUTION FOR US TO ACT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I'LL USE THE TREE ORDINANCE AS AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ALL LOVE TREES. HOW WE WANT TO SEE THE TREE, HOW AGGRESSIVE WE WANT OUR LOCAL TREE ORDINANCE IS, IS A MATTER OF DIFFERENCE AMONG EVEN THIS COUNCIL, RIGHT? SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT US TO BE SO PRESCRIPTIVE WITH THIS THAT WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT COMES OUR WAY. I MEAN, TO, YOU KNOW, THE POINT JUST MADE IT'S WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ON THIS, BECAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE MATTERS CAN BE NUANCED. YOU KNOW, HOW PRESCRIPTIVE WE GET FOR, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS STATEMENT TO SAY WE SUPPORT 100% REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THINGS CONSERVATION. YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A BRIDGE TOO FAR, ALTHOUGH I DID SIGN ONE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL SAYING, OBLITERATE ARTIFICIAL TURF. ARTIFICIAL TURF. YES. AND THEN A MICROBE ON BEHALF OF JAMES LIGHT, NOT THE MAYOR OF THE CITY. I HAD ALMOST THE EXACT SAME NOTES HERE ABOUT BICYCLE MASTER PLAN BICYCLE LANES AS COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI YOU BROUGHT UP. AND IN FACT, I'VE GOT AN ASTERISK UP IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY SAYING MOVE IT DOWN TO TRANSPORTATION. SO I DO THINK UNDER TRANSPORTATION, WE SHOULD SPECIFICALLY SAY SOMETHING, HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT MICROMOBILITY. MICROMOBILITY? I THINK EVEN THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE, LIKE, ROAD DIETS HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. I MEAN, ONE WAY TO PHRASE IT MIGHT BE SUPPORT MICROMOBILITY INITIATIVES WHERE IT WHEREBY IT DOES NOT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICLE ACCESS OR THROUGHPUT OR SOMETHING BECAUSE, I MEAN, CONGESTION. YEAH, EXACTLY. BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE DRAWN THE LINE AT THAT AT THAT POINT. AND THEN MY LAST NOTE IS ON THE TELECOM WHERE YOU'VE GOT INTERNET TAXATION THAT CAN BE READ MULTIPLE WAYS. SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD SAY WE ARE TAXING PEOPLE'S USE OF THE INTERNET VERSUS WE ARE GETTING TAX REVENUE FROM SALES. SO INTERNET SALES AND, BUT FROM MY INDUSTRY BACKGROUND, INTERNET TAXATION ISN'T EXACTLY THE RIGHT WORD FOR, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SAY HERE. GOOD POINT. YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I THINK THE INTENTION HERE IS THERE WAS A MOVEMENT AFOOT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, RIGHT, TO SUPERSEDE UTILITY USER TAX ORDINANCES IN CITIES FOR RIGHT OF WAY IMPLEMENTATION AND, [01:50:08] YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CABLE NETWORKING, FIBER NETWORKING. IT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR A CITY TO SAY, NO, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU KNOW, UUT SHOULD STILL APPLY. AND THAT THAT'S BEEN A RUB, YOU KNOW, AT THE STATE LEVEL, ESPECIALLY WITH BIG BUSINESS. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON THAT WORDING. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE IT FOR ME. THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP AGAIN? YES, THERE IS SOMETHING, BUT NOW IT'S TOTALLY PUT IT UP. I'LL PAY. WELL, LET ME TAKE PUBLIC INPUT, AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN THINK OF IT. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS FIRST? OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WAYNE CRAIG, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THESE BILLS THAT CHANGE QUITE A BIT. I'M ON THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE FOR THE LOCAL BOARD OF REALTORS, AND I GET URGENT ACTION REPORTS ALL THE TIME ON CRAZY BILLS THAT HAPPEN. AND I OFTEN CALL MANY OF YOU HERE AND LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM. MOST RECENTLY WAS THE ONE ABOUT CHANGING LANDLORDS HAVING TO CHANGE ALL THEIR GAS APPLIANCES TO ELECTRIC IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COST PROHIBITIVE FOR MOM AND POP LANDLORDS WHO OWN A HOUSE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE EVERYTHING AND PAY THOUSANDS OF BUCKS. BUT I DID WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING. AND YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. BUT THE SITUATION IN HERMOSA BEACH WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I MADE SOME PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAPPENING. FROM WHAT I FOUND OUT, TALKING TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, WERE THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL MET AND THEY TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEY DECIDED ON THEIR OWN TO WRITE A LETTER. THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT AWARE OF IT. SO THEY SENT THE LETTER OUT AND I GUESS IT GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK. THEY CHANGED IT AGAIN, SENT IT BACK OUT AGAIN. NOW, ACCORDING TO SOME OTHER FOLKS IN THE CITY, IS THAT THE THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY SERVED ON A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ON A TRANSPORTATION COMPANY. SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST FINANCIALLY. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY DID THIS WITHOUT LETTING THE REST OF THE COUNCIL KNOW. NOW, MIKE WOULDN'T DO THAT. I DON'T THINK HE HAS A CONFLICT OF THAT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DON'T SEE THAT CITY MANAGER IN HERMOSA BEACH ANYMORE. SO THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A NOT TOO PUBLIC, THERE WASN'T MUCH PUBLIC DEBATE, AND SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WEREN'T EVEN AWARE THE LETTER WENT OUT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS ONCE THEY WROTE THE LETTER, IT GOT SLIPPED INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND FOR SOME REASON, NO ONE PULLED IT. IT GOT APPROVED, SIGNED, SENT OUT. AND THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED. SO YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, WHICH IS FULLY TRANSPARENT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEMS THAT YOU DEFINITELY ARE FEELING THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH. AND MR. WITZANSKY IS NOT GOING TO UNILATERALLY TAKE AN OPINION ON SOMETHING YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY APPROVED. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WENT DOWN IN HERMOSA BEACH. IT WAS A DIFFERENT THING. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE. AND I THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH PRECAUTIONS SET IN PLACE TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL. MARK HANSEN, THIS TIME WITH MY HAT ON AS A MEMBER OF THE REDONDO BEACH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I ALSO SERVE ON THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE FOR LOCAL ISSUES. WE HAVE A SISTER COMMITTEE, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL ISSUES. SO WHAT I SIMPLY WANT TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT A HAND OF FRIENDSHIP TO YOU, THAT WHEN INDIVIDUAL ISSUES COME OUT THAT YOU MIGHT WANT SOME SUPPORT FOR. BRING IT TO US. WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON IT AND SEE IF WE CAN SUPPORT YOUR POSITIONS ON ITEMS. ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE ALLIES. YOU'VE ALL GOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS. GIVE ME A CALL IF WE CAN BE OF HELP. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. AND THERE'S AN ECOMMENT IN OPPOSITION. OKAY. DID YOU THINK OF WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY? AND [INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S TWICE TONIGHT. OH, WHEN YOU GET SLEEP. ONE OF THE FIRST SYMPTOMS OF SLEEP DEPRIVATION IS LOSS OF MEMORY. ACTUALLY. WHAT IS IT LIKE HAVING KIDS? COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. SO. [LAUGHS] WORLD'S SMALLEST VIOLIN. SO I SEE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REGARDING WHAT THE ECONOMIC SUBCOMMITTEE IS TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN REDONDO BEACH. SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE ADD ON TO HERE? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GENERIC STATEMENTS IN THERE THAT ARE, I THINK, FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE, ANYTHING THAT INCENTIVIZES LOCAL INVESTMENT. YOU'VE GOT TOOLS THAT WERE FORMERLY PROVIDED THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY EVERY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT'S THAT'S BEEN CREATED ENCOURAGE POLICIES THAT FOSTER LOCAL TRADE INNOVATION, PARTICULARLY IN AEROSPACE, MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY. ANYTHING BEYOND THIS KIND OF LEVEL OF STATEMENT, [01:55:01] I THINK, PROBABLY GETS TO A MORE OF A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. AND MUCH LIKE THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD ABOUT REDUCING PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR INCREASING FAR, THOSE ARE THOSE, I THINK START TO GET BEYOND PLATFORM. AND HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT LIKE IN LOCAL INVESTMENT IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING BUSINESSES. OR WE COULD MAKE IT. WE COULD MAKE A COMMENT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. CAN'T THEY JUST EMAIL SOME COMMENTS TO. SURE. YEAH. NO, I'M WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'LL WANT TO BRING IT BACK FOR FINAL REVIEW. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR EITHER COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC OR CITY ATTORNEY FORD ON THE HOUSING. WE SEEK FUNDING FOR LOCAL HOUSING SOLUTIONS, INCLUDING ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAMS SUCH AS PROJECT HOME KEY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? AND I THINK I KNOW WHY, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR US, WE'RE NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH PROJECT HOME KEY. WHY? THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO SUPPORT. MAYBE I'LL TAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT IT OR NOT. THE. AND TO BE CLEAR HERE, THIS IS MEANT TO BE LINKED TO FUNDING TO SUPPORT THESE THINGS, NOT NECESSARILY TO BUILD. THERE'S A LOT OF WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT ARE PART AND PARCEL TO THESE PROGRAMS, THOSE TEND TO BE THE FUNDING GAP LOCAL, STATE. SO I DON'T WANT THIS. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THIS UP. SO IT'S NOT CONFUSING. THIS ISN'T MEANT TO SAY UNILATERALLY BUILD SUCH THINGS IN THE CITY. IT'S MEANT TO PROVIDE US RESOURCES TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'VE CREATED, RIGHT. THE PROGRAMS WE'VE DEVELOPED. SO WE MAY WANT TO FINESSE THAT A LITTLE BIT IS IMPORTANT. YEAH. FUNDING THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROGRAMS FOR LOCAL HOUSING SOLUTIONS. IN FACT, WE MIGHT NOT SEEK FUNDING FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAMS SUCH AS PROJECT HOME KEY. BUT YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. I THINK FOR EXAMPLE, ASSEMBLY MEMBER [INAUDIBLE] FOR MULTIPLE YEARS TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION TO CREATE A PILOT ENHANCED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS IN OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES SIMILAR TO OURS, OR HOMELESS COURT SIMILAR TO OURS. BUT IF THAT IS COMING ACROSS AS BUILDING OR CONSTRUCTING THESE THINGS AND NOT AS A FUNDING TO SUPPORT OUR LOCALLY DEVELOPED SOLUTIONS, THEN WE WILL WANT TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. COOL. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'D ARGUE WE MIGHT WANT TO SAY WE WANT MORE SAY ON WHERE PROJECT HOME KEY GOES AND IN OUR JURISDICTION RATHER THAN BEING TOLD, WELL. THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHY THE PHRASE LOCAL AUTHORITY TENDS TO BE PEPPERED THROUGH HERE. WE, AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT'S POINT, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T USE THAT AS THE BUZZWORD IN OUR LETTER OF OPPOSITION NECESSARILY. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM FLOWS THROUGH THAT LENS OF DO WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE ABLE TO CONTROL OUTCOME? IF WE THINK OUR OUTCOME CONTROL IS BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM US ON ANY OF THESE ISSUES, WE TEND TO BE IN OPPOSITION. SO MAYBE IT'S JUST INCLUDING OUR EXISTING PALLET SHELTERS AND ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAMS SUCH AS PROJECT HOME. YEAH, MAYBE SUCH AS OUR OUR EXISTING PROJECT HOME KEY OR SHELTER PALLET SHELTER PROGRAM. OR THE CITY MIGHT EXPAND SOMETHING AND WANT FUNDING, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF OUR PROGRAM. BUT AS YOU SAID, EXISTING. WELL, THESE WOULD BE EXAMPLES OF SUCH AS OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO OVER WORD THIS. OKAY. SO WHAT I SENSE IS THERE'S A CONSENSUS IF AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT GENERAL SUPPORT FOR A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA PLATFORM LIKE THIS. SECOND, THAT WE ALTER THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT TO STATE THAT WHEN THERE'S TIME, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND WE'LL WE'LL MAKE THAT CLEAR. YEAH. AND IF IT'S CONTROVERSIAL. RIGHT. YEAH. IF IT'S IN THE GRAY OR IT'S POTENTIALLY CONTROVERSIAL, IS DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, BY US TO BE DEBATABLE. YEAH. AND THEN YOU GOT SOME WORDING INPUTS FROM ALL OF US. SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? YOU COME BACK. YEAH. AS A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR APPROVAL OR. NO, WE'LL PROBABLY BRING IT BACK ONE LAST TIME FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH, PROBABLY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AT THAT POINT. YEAH. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS ISSUE? LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THINKING COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION. THERE'S NEEDS TO MARINATE ON IT. WE'VE RAISED SOME ISSUES TONIGHT. TALK TO CONSTITUENTS. COME BACK. AND AS YOU SAID AT THE TOP, NOT RUSH THIS. LET'S GET IT RIGHT. AND YEAH, I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE WORDING RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU GET THEM TO NOT NOT WAIT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM. YEAH. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TIME. WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUSH THIS BACK. YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND GOOD IDEAS. TORT REFORM. WE'LL HAVE TO THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONE. THAT I LOVE IT. I LIKE THE IDEA I FINESSING THAT LANGUAGE. WE'LL HAVE TO MARINATE ON A LITTLE BIT. [02:00:02] BUT OKAY. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ONE THING INSTEAD OF THE LOCAL CONTROL BUZZWORD, A SECOND AGO YOU WERE MENTIONING BEING AN INDEPENDENT CITY, AND I THINK MAINTAINING OUR INDEPENDENCE AND OUR ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS LOCALLY IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND THAT WILL GET US AWAY FROM THAT LOCAL CONTROL BUZZWORD. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE LANGUAGE WE LOOK TO USE IN THE LETTERS. RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS MEANT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD FILTER THESE DECISIONS, RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S GO TO ITEM N.2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY'S PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT ORDINANCE. YES. PUBLIC WORKS GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE. I'M GOING TO LET ANDY AND RYAN PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION HERE AND INTRODUCE THIS CONCEPT. THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS MORE ACUTELY THAN THE REST OF US. AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION HAD KIND OF A GO AT THIS AND MIGHT HAVE EVEN PROVIDED A REFERRAL FOR SOME OF IT, BUT THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE'RE TACKLING HERE WITH THIS CONVERSATION. AGAIN, AN INTRODUCTORY CONVERSATION. THERE'S ONE ELEMENT THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME TIME SENSITIVITY. AND I THINK ANDY WILL COVER THAT. SO. YEAH. THANK YOU MIKE, AND GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MAYOR. WE ARE ANDY WINJE, FOR THE RECORD PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WITH RYAN LU, OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WE'RE BRINGING THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. KIND OF INSPIRED BY OUR HOLIDAY EVENT LAST YEAR DOWN IN THE SOUTH PART OF DISTRICT ONE. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER REASONS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS WELL. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE CITY USES SEVERAL TOOLS TO MANAGE PARKING DEMAND AROUND THE CITY. METERS, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THESE THINGS. METERS, PARKING MACHINES, THE VARIOUS TYPES OF PERMITS CREATED FOR ALL RESIDENTS, THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PARKING METER PERMIT THERE, WHICH IS A BIG HIT IN OUR CITY. STICKERS FOR EMPLOYEES IN THOSE AREAS, OVERSIZE VEHICLE PERMITS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE ALSO HAVE AN INTEREST IN PROVIDING PARKING. PREFERENTIAL PARKING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS WELL, NOT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT LIMITED TO RESIDENTS. WE CALL THESE PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMITS OR THE PPP PROGRAM. IT'S A LOT OF P'S. SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT WE DESIGNED, THESE ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THE INTERFACES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND COMMERCIAL AREAS OR OTHER INSTITUTIONAL AREAS LIKE SCHOOLS OR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS OR LARGE INDUSTRIAL AREAS. THE EXAMPLES WE SHOW HERE ON THE SCREEN ARE THE CORRIDOR AROUND PCH AND THE AVENUE F AND AVENUE G NEIGHBORHOODS THERE. TYPICALLY THESE PARKING PERMITS ARE ENFORCED BY PROVIDING PROHIBITIONS, PARKING RESTRICTIONS TO ALL BUT PERMIT HOLDERS. SO THE PERMIT EXEMPTS YOU FROM OTHERWISE POSTED PARKING RESTRICTIONS. AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE MEANT TO PROTECT PARKING AVAILABILITY FOR RESIDENTS OF THE STATE. DOCTRINE ON THE USE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS THAT THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ALL, NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT STREET. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH RESTRICTING PARKING ON STREETS TO JUST RESIDENTS. BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO DO IT THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR IN THE STATE CODE. THE CITY ADOPTED A PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM IN 1993. IT'S BEEN USED SOME. IT'S NOT REALLY BROADLY UNDERSTOOD OR EASILY ACCESSED. STAFF AND THE COMMISSION HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT HERE. A SIGNIFICANT DRIVER FOR THIS DISCUSSION AND THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION HAD TO DO WITH EVENT BASED PERMITS RISING OVER THE CHALLENGES THAT I MENTIONED ADJACENT TO THE TORRANCE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PUTS ON THE FANTASTIC HOLIDAY LIGHT SHOW EVERY YEAR. THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS HERE. FOR INSTANCE, ADDING OUR BASE LIKE ONE HOUR, TWO HOUR PARKING WITHIN PARKING DISTRICTS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO MIGHT WANT TO SERVICE YOUR HOUSE. IF YOU CALL THE PLUMBER OUT TO YOUR HOUSE AND HE HAS TO PARK ON THE STREET, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. IF WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHORT TERM PARKING IN THESE AREAS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. NOW IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE OUR ENFORCEMENT IS CHALLENGING BECAUSE EVERY DIFFERENT BLOCK THAT'S ADDED NOW TO OUR OVERALL PROGRAM HAS A DIFFERENT PERMIT NUMBER, A DIFFERENT PARKING ZONE, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THAT MAKES IT MORE CHALLENGING FOR THE FROM THE ENFORCEMENT ANGLE. WE'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE ENFORCEMENT BY REDUCING ZONES THERE. THE PERMIT OR THE CODE LANGUAGE. I'M SORRY. IS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT HOW WE JUSTIFY SETTING UP A PREFERENTIAL [02:05:05] PARKING ZONE. AND WE FIND THAT WORKS AGAINST THE COUNCIL'S INTEREST IN BEING ABLE TO APPLY THIS THIS PROGRAM TO THE VARIOUS KINDS OF PARKING CONFLICTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE. AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THERE TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THINGS AND SEE THE NUANCES IN THE VARIOUS CHALLENGES WITH PARKING. AND THEN OUR LANGUAGE DOESN'T ANTICIPATE THE ADOPTION OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES LIKE OUR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE AND OTHER ONLINE SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. SO THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN OUR CURRENT PROGRAM AND ALSO STAFF. BUT I REALLY MEAN, RYAN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AT COMPARING OUR CITY WITH OTHER CITIES WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF US ON THIS WITH SOME PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES AND WE GAVE YOU A LIST IN THE STAFF REPORT. THEY'RE A LITTLE. BIT MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. THE OBVIOUS ONE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT SEASONAL OR TEMPORARY PERMITS, NOT MAKING THESE ANNUAL PERMITS IN EVERY CASE. ONE THING THAT BEVERLY HILLS AND CULVER CITY ARE THE TWO MAPS THAT YOU SEE UP THERE. THEY'VE. INGLEWOOD. I'M SORRY. YEAH. INGLEWOOD AND CULVER CITY. I'M SORRY. INGLEWOOD AND CULVER CITY HAVE SET UP OUR CITYWIDE PARKING DISTRICTS SO THAT EVERY EVERY PART OF THE CITY IS IDENTIFIED IN A DISTRICT, BUT BLOCKS OR STREETS ARE ADDED KIND OF BLOCK BY BLOCK BY THEIR VARIOUS COUNCILS TO THE DISTRICT. SO WE ONLY HAVE A DEFINED NUMBER OF PERMITS, ZONE STICKERS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. FROM A PARKING ENFORCEMENT POINT OF VIEW. OUR CURRENT TERMINOLOGY ONLY ALLOWS THE CHANGE OR MODIFICATION OF A PARKING ZONE BY THE RESIDENTS ON THAT BLOCK. A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS ON THAT BLOCK. AND THERE MAY BE CASES WHERE THE NEED TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL PARKING HAS CHANGED OVER TIME. IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE A PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE ON A PARTICULAR BLOCK, AND IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED TO MEET ANOTHER NEED THAT THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN. BUT TECHNICALLY, WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT GETTING TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT BLOCK. SO THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PROBABLY UNINTENTIONAL, BUT WE SHOULD ADDRESS THOSE. OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE ALLOWS UNLIMITED VISITOR PERMITS FOR RESIDENTS, AND THAT CAN BE ABUSED THROUGH CIRCULATING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT REALLY YOUR VISITORS BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE PAYING YOU FOR YOUR VISITOR PERMIT PASS TO ATTEND A CERTAIN EVENT OR LOCATION THAT IS NEAR YOUR HOME. THE PERMIT ADMINISTRATION COULD LANGUAGE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATING, MODERNIZING. I MENTIONED THE ENGINEERING METHODOLOGY IS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE. WE WOULD RELEGATE THAT TO A POLICY THAT'S APPROVED EITHER BY RESOLUTION OR JUST COUNCIL ACTION, SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE DO THE ALWAYS STOP OR THE SPEED CUSHION METHODOLOGY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNCIL AND THEN JUST OTHER GENERAL MODERNIZATION OF THE LANGUAGE. SO THOSE ARE SPELLED OUT, AS I MENTIONED IN YOUR IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS YOUR THOUGHTS AND DIRECTION ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND WHICH OF THESE ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT. YOU SEE, FOR US TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT'S DRIVING THE CONVERSATION. AND I ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER AND THE WHY NOW QUESTION IS EVERY YEAR IN THAT AVENUE H NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY THE NEIGHBORS ARE INUNDATED WITH PARKING AND TRAFFIC FOR THE HOLIDAY. LIGHT EVENT RIGHT OVER THE BORDER, USUALLY BETWEEN THANKSGIVING AND NEW YEAR'S. AND THE RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE ASKED US THROUGH THE COMMISSION TO TRY AND DO NEW THINGS TO HELP THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME UP WAS A PARKING PERMIT, PREFERENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM THAT WAS SEASONALLY BASED NOT ALL YEAR LONG, BUT JUST DURING THIS HOLIDAY LIGHTING PERIOD. AND SO WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND WITH SOME URGENCY TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING BY THIS COMING HOLIDAY SEASON. WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER COMPLAINTS, TOO, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SMALL PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONES THAT REALLY SERVE NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT JUST A PARTICULAR STREET. AND SO THERE'S BEEN SOME MOTIVATION FROM THOSE KIND OF COMPLAINTS TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE AS WELL. SO THAT'S THE WHY NOW QUESTION. AS I MENTIONED TONIGHT, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON ANY CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. WE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS HERE, I THINK. GOOD IDEAS. THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS IN MIND. THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WITH YOU AS A COUNCIL. [02:10:02] SO IT MAY FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE A HARD COLD START HERE TO THE TOPIC. TOPIC. BUT I THINK WE, OUR INTENT IS THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH DISCUSSION ITEMS WITH A FIRST READING KIND OF THING, WITH SOME MORE SPECIFIC THINGS TO GET INTO YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPTS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN THIS REPORT TONIGHT. BUT TONIGHT, WE'RE HOPING TO FLAG YOUR ATTENTION AND GET ANY INPUT THAT YOU HAVE ON ON THINGS MAYBE THAT YOU'VE NOTICED OR PROBLEMS THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO BRING INTO A NEW ORDINANCE HERE. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM KIND OF THE URGENCY PART OF THIS, THAT WE SHOULD TRY AND ADDRESS IT BY THIS YEAR TO ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS AND AVENUE H. PERHAPS IT'S TOO LONG A DISCUSSION AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT TO TILL LATER HERE. BUT WE WANT TO BRING THAT BEFORE YOU AS WELL. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT FOR TONIGHT. RYAN IS HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I'M HERE TO HELP RYAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I JUST WANT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT WE SYSTEMATIZE AND UPDATE THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE OF THIS PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THE,JUST THE AVENUE H CONCERN. SO IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AS A ONE OFF ITEM AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT FOR THE TIME BEING AND TALK ABOUT IT. AND WE CAN DO THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN THAT. THE SECOND THING I WANT TO MAKE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT SOMEHOW AUTHORITY OVER THESE PROGRAMS OR THE PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY RESTS WITH STAFF. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO. THE PARKING AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ARE POTENTIALLY VERY EXPLOSIVE ISSUES, BOTH LOCALLY AND CERTAINLY POLITICALLY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THESE ZONES AFFECT ARE WEIGHING IN VERY HEAVILY WITH, WITH IMPACTS. SO WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BYPASS THAT. I THINK WHEN WE SPEAK TO THE ORDINANCE IS TOO RESTRICTIVE. WE MEAN IT AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. WE DON'T. YOU ALL DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ACT QUICKLY, RIGHT? IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT OUTLINES THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE PROGRAM, AND THEN THE POLICIES WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK WOULD BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH RESOLUTION. OR AS ANDY MENTIONED, SOME TYPE OF MINUTE ACTION. AND WE WOULD DO THEM IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY THAN WE DO TODAY. SO THAT'S, I THINK, THE SPIRIT OF THIS HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. SO REALLY, WE'VE GOT THE PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME UPDATES TO IT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT, I THINK, MORE ACUTELY THE ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH KIND OF AVENUE H AND AND MASSENA PARKETTE KIND OF CUL DE SAC NEIGHBORHOOD ITEMS, WHICH I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER IS FAMILIAR WITH AND CAN SPEAK TO. OKAY. THANK YOU AND GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, ANDY AND AND RYAN. APPRECIATE IT. I ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT. I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD THAT MANY AREAS WITH PERMIT PARKING, SO PREFERENTIAL PARKING. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE REASONS WHY, BUT I WAS SHOCKED THAT I THOUGHT, IS THIS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING? AND THEN I READ IT. NO, THESE ARE EXISTING, WHICH IS PRETTY, PRETTY AMAZING. I DO. THE PWSC. ALL THEY SAID WAS TO TAKE THIS TO THE COUNCIL. THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY SPECIFICS. WE DID PROVIDE A SIMILAR LIST TO THAT. WHAT YOU HAVE. THEY DIDN'T COME BACK AND SAY YES ON THIS. NO, ON THIS. NO, THEY THEY DID. THEY HAD AFFIRMED THAT WE SHOULD MODIFY OUR ORDINANCE TO MODERNIZE. THEY SAID YES TO EVERYTHING. GENERALLY. YES. GENERALLY. YES. WE WE GAVE THEM A WHOLE LIST, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT WE'VE DESCRIBED THEN IS IN THE IN THE STAFF PACK IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND THEY, THEY YEAH. THEIR CONTEXT WAS DEALING WITH THE AVENUE H RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT COULD BE DONE. AND SO I THINK THEIR FOCUS REALLY WAS ON LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ALLOW SOME KIND OF A TEMPORARY PARKING PERMIT FOR THAT SITUATION. SO THEY WEREN'T IN THE WEEDS NECESSARILY ON, ON THESE OTHER TOPICS, BUT GENERALLY FELT LIKE IT COULD USE A REDO, AN OVERVIEW. YEAH, YEAH. I AGREE WITH BIFURCATING THIS EFFORT. I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE THE HOLIDAY THING. I THINK TORRANCE HAS ASKED US, YOU KNOW, TO DO SOMETHING AND WE GOT TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS IF WE TAKE THAT ACTION TO OPEN UP THE STREET. SO I SUPPORT THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE IN ONE FELL SWOOP, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THIS. I DO SUPPORT REDUCING OR REWRITING. HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TAKE AWAY A ZONE THAT MAYBE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE? BUT I AM COGNIZANT, I THINK SOME THE COUNCIL, AT LEAST THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THAT DISTRICT NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT DECISION, IF NOT THE WHOLE COUNCIL. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE THERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THAT, THAT DISTRICT AND ANYTHING TO ELIMINATE ABUSE OUT THERE OR ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS, [02:15:06] I THINK, INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE NOT TO USE THEIR GARAGE, YOU KNOW, TO REPURPOSE THEIR GARAGE FOR OTHER THINGS WHEN THEY MOVED INTO THAT PLACE, KNOWING, YOU KNOW, THE CONDITIONS WERE THERE AND THEY KNEW THEY HAD A TWO CAR GARAGE. THEY CHOSE TO FILL IT UP WITH SOMETHING AND PARK ON THE STREET. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS TURN INTO SANTA MONICA OR LIKE THAT STREET SIGN YOU SIGN WHERE YOU HAVE TO DECIPHER BETWEEN 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT SIGNS. IS THIS THE SLOT OF TIME WHERE I'M ALLOWED TO PARK HERE WITHOUT A PERMIT OR NOT? IT JUST GETS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A DETERRENT TO PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY COMING IN. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE A WELCOMING COMMUNITY, NOT A GET OUT OF MY TOWN TYPE OF COMMUNITY. AND CERTAINLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A ZONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEACH DURING THE SUMMER. YOU MOVE YOUR CAR, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT SPOT BACK. AND I WOULD I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE RIGHT. EVEN IF THE COASTAL COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW IT TO, TO LET US SAY, OH, PREFERENTIAL PARKING FOR ALL OUR STREETS IN THE RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEACH, BECAUSE WE MOVED THERE KNOWING WHAT IT WAS LIKE. SO YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR DECISIONS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE BUYING AND THINK THAT THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE BUYING. SO WITH THAT AGAIN, I SUPPORT BIFURCATING. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK VERY QUICKLY TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO. I GUESS THAT'S AN ORDINANCE. FOR THE TIME BEING, IT WOULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE ORDINANCE. YOU NEED TO READ IT. AND FIRST READING OR SECOND READING A HEARING. SO SO WE NEED TO GET THAT GOING. AND THEN I THINK YOU KNOW, THINK LONG TERM ON THE ON THE BROADER ISSUES. LET'S SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI I DON'T HAVE MY HAND UP STILL. SORRY. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THIS IS DEFINITELY A BIG ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS. I'VE GOT FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, FRIENDS THAT LIVE ADJACENT TO THAT AREA. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PRIORITY REALLY NEEDS TO BE FOR THAT AVENUE H MASSENA NEIGHBORHOOD. NEAR TERM. BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE CODE AND LOOKING AT HOW IT'S WRITTEN, I SEE ALSO WHY WE NEED TO DO THE REST OF IT. IT'S BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET RID OF OBSOLETE PARKING PERMITS, PARKING PERMIT ZONES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE LONG TERM ALSO, YOU KNOW, GET DONE. BUT I DON'T THINK A WEEK GOES BY THAT I DON'T HEAR A COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMEBODY SAYING, WELL, THE AVENUE F PERSON IS PARKING ON AVENUE G, AND THE PERMIT IS THE SAME COLOR AND THE POLICE AREN'T CITING THEM? OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PLACE FOR ME TO PARK? I'M USING MY GARAGE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THE NUMBER ONE REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THANKSGIVING THROUGH NEW YEAR'S RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC. THEY'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH EXCESS PARKING, PEOPLE PARKING THERE AND THEN WALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS TRAFFIC CONTROL ISSUES THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED PARTIALLY WITH TORRANCE. I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOME OF THE LIGHTING IN THAT AREA AT THE TRAFFIC AT THE SLEEPY HOLLOW TIME, JUST BECAUSE OF CARS AND PEDESTRIANS. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START TO IT. AND YEAH, I REALLY STRONGLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE AS FAST AS PRACTICABLE FOR US FOR THE AVENUE H MASSENA NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. AND THANKSGIVING IS GOING TO COME UP QUICK. YES. AND THIS IS THE LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING THROUGH THE SEQUENCE, IF WE GET GENERAL DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TO PREPARE THAT ORDINANCE AND KIND OF IDENTIFY THAT ZONE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK THE SPECIFICS OUT. I THINK WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE INTENTION HERE. WE WOULD THEN COME BACK WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE HOLIDAY PERMIT AND HAVE IT READY FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING IN OCTOBER AND IDEALLY, ADOPTION BY THAT THIRD MEETING. AND THEN WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO BE FULLY EFFECTIVE, WE COULD BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ADMINISTERING THE PERMIT AND WE COULD SOLICIT YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THAT AND HAVE IT READY TO GO FOR JUST AFTER THANKSGIVING. I THINK THE I THINK THE LIGHTS AS WE LOOKED AT START THE SUNDAY FOLLOWING THANKSGIVING. CORRECT. SO, YEAH I THINK WE STILL HAVE TIME TO GET IT DONE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR CONSENSUS THAT THE COUNCIL IS OPEN TO IT. SO WE PREPARE THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT ORDINANCE. AND I GUESS IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRICE OF THE OF THE TEMPORARY PERMITS, THE TEMPORARY SEASONAL PERMITS, NOT NECESSARILY BEING ON THE SAME ORDER AS A YEAR LONG PERMIT. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME NUANCES AND LOTS OF SMALL THINGS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS, BUT I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GET IT PERFECT AND THEN BE READY IN JANUARY. [02:20:02] I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT OUT THERE. WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST IT AFTERWARDS. YOU KNOW? AND I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ASTOUNDED ME IN CONTEMPLATING THIS AND REVIEWING, YOU KNOW, THE MATERIALS THAT ANDY AND RYAN PREPARED IS WE'VE CREATED EFFECTIVELY A COMMODITY WITH THE VISITOR PERMIT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE TRADED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. THAT'S OUR VALUE, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT'S VALUE. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ISN'T RELATIVE TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING ON A CITYWIDE PERMIT PROGRAM BASIS WE NEED TO ADDRESS. I'M SURE YOU'D ACCEPT COUNCILMEMBER WALLER WORKING WITH YOU ON CRAFTING THAT SPECIFIC ORDINANCE. IT'S ON HIS DISTRICT. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN. I THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH RIGHT FROM THE START. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH US PURSUING THAT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF THESE RESTRICTED PERMITTED PARKING AREAS AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND WHAT HAPPENS? I THINK IT WAS A PROBLEM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE CHANGED THE PARKING TIMES AND REGULATIONS ON THAT SIDE OF THE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT PUSHED ALL OF THE TRAFFIC TO THE NORTH SIDE. SO IN AVENUE H IT'S A POPULAR SEASONAL ATTRACTION THAT EVERYONE IN REDONDO, TORRANCE AND THE SURROUNDING CITY LOVES TO COME TO. IF WE BLOCK THEM OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT CAN WE DO? BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO PUSH PEOPLE INTO NEW AREAS. IT'LL PUSH THEM WHAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN AS A USER OF OF THAT PARKING OVER THE YEARS. IT'LL LIKELY PUSH THEM WEST OF PROSPECT INTO THE AVENUES. I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE MORE PARKING ON THAT SIDE DEPENDING ON HOW NARROW THE ZONE IS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT NATURAL KIND OF DISPERSION LOCATION IS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK AT TULITA AND WALK IN. THAT'S FINE. IT'S PUBLIC PARKING. THEY SHOULD DO THAT. IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE. WHERE WE'RE HAVING THE PROBLEM IS REALLY RIGHT THERE AT THAT BOLLARD ENTRANCE. YEAH, YEAH, IT HAS TO DO AS MUCH WITH TRAFFIC THROUGH TRAFFIC AS AS MUCH AS PARKING TRAFFIC. SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE AVENUE FG ALBERTA IN THAT AREA, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THROUGH STREETS AND RELATIVELY WIDER STREETS. THE PROBLEM WITH AVENUE H IN MASSENA AND CIRCLE DRIVE IS IT IS A CUL DE SAC NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE A LOT OF THESE VISITORS COME IN AND THEY GET STUCK, AND THEN THEY'RE CIRCULATING AROUND. AND THAT'S REALLY THE WHERE WE SPENT A LOT OF RESOURCES IN THE PAST YEAR TRYING TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE IT'S A WHOLE CUL DE SAC NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE PERSON GOES IN CIRCLES AROUND LOOKING FOR PARKING, CANNOT FIND ANYTHING, BLOCKS THE STREET, AND THEN YOU SEE SOME GRIDLOCK OCCURRING THERE DOWN IN THAT CIRCLE. OKAY. THE OTHER THING AND I'VE SORT OF RUN INTO THIS ON FRANCISCA AND PCH WHERE THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING WELL AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES. THEY DON'T VOTE, THEY DON'T COUNT AS RESIDENCES WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LICENSE PLATE READERS WHERE THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES. AND NOW IF WE INSTITUTE A PARKING PERMIT, IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY, THEIR EMPLOYEES MAY HAVE PARKED ON THE STREET. NOW THEY HAVE TO NOW FIND OTHER PARKING. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH ARTESIA AS WE JUST ELIMINATED THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE STREET I FORGET THE FIRST STREET JUST SOUTH OR NORTH OF ARTESIA SUDDENLY WANTS TO GO. MATTHEWS AND VANDERBILT. RIGHT. IF THOSE STREETS WANT TO GO RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT ONLY, AND THERE'S NO PARKING FOR THE BUSINESSES ON ARTESIA. SO, YOU KNOW JUST PERSONALLY, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF OVERLY PERMITTED PARKING AREAS LIKE SANTA MONICA, WHERE NO MATTER WHAT STREET YOU'RE PARKING ON, NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY, YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING IT WRONG AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET. YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT FOR THE CITY'S REVENUE, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE US MOVE TO THAT TYPE OF PARKING WHERE THE ENTIRE CITY IS IN SOME SORT OF PERMITTED ZONE, AND IT JUST BECOMES OVERLY DIFFICULT TO NOT GET A TICKET IN REDONDO. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD THIS DISCUSSION AND THE VARIOUS IDEAS, IS THAT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT IS CODIFIED IN MUNICIPAL CODE, IT'S GREATLY RESTRICTED ALL OF OUR ABILITIES, NOT JUST TO ADD, BUT ALSO MODIFY AND REMOVE THESE ZONES. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE COMES A DAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE NEED TO CONSIDER PARKING PERMITS OR WHATEVER OPTIONS ON ARTESIA, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CODE CHANGES COULD HELP ADDRESS THAT. SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE MOVE TO A CITYWIDE PARKING DISTRICT, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE ZONES IS PLUS OR MINUS 2 OR 3 BLOCKS FROM ARTESIA, AND THAT CONSTITUTES THAT PERMIT ZONE. ALTHOUGH NOT EVERY STREET MAY HAVE A RESTRICTION. BUT SEE, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. LIKE THAT'S WHERE YOU LIKE, YOU PUT UP. I THINK IT WAS THE INGLEWOOD MAP OR CULVER CITY WHERE NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, YOU'RE IN SOME ZONE. AND IS THIS THE RIGHT ZONE? [02:25:02] AND ARE YOU ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET IF YOU GO IF I GO VISIT, I'M ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET WITHIN HIS. IT GETS KIND OF CRAZY, EVEN IF YOU LIVE THERE. I THINK IT'S MORE SO FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSE OF THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, EVERY TIME WE ADD A STREET TO THE TO THE PERMIT PROGRAM, THAT'S A WHOLE NEW ZONE. RIGHT? AND WHAT THIS IS DOING IS JUST IT JUST CLEANS IT UP A BIT WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE CITY JUST HAS TEN ZONES, TEN GEOGRAPHIC ZONES. AND IF YOU'RE AROUND THAT GENERAL AREA, IF YOUR STREET HAS A RESTRICTION THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PERMIT, PERMIT, TYPE Z OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THE KEY NOTE THERE IS THAT THE ZONES DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THERE IS A PERMIT PROGRAM OR ANY KIND OF RESTRICTION. I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT WE FACE NOW IN THE IN THE PROGRAM IS WE HAVE TO CREATE THESE ZONES BY ORDINANCE. AND IT'S THERE ISN'T THERE ISN'T ANY FLEXIBILITY AFTER THAT. AND IT BECOMES BLOCK BY BLOCK. AND IT'S AND SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST AN INFINITE AMOUNT. SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION, WHETHER IT'S GEOGRAPHY OR IF IT'S, IF WE, IF YOU ALL COALESCE AROUND WANTING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS, THAT'S THAT THAT SIMPLIFIES THIS TOO. BUT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEM, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO THIS IF WE DECIDE HEY BY RESOLUTION OR BY ADOPTED EXHIBIT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE CHANGES, THEN WE WE CAN COMPLETELY CHANGE HOW WE CLASSIFY THESE THINGS. AND WE CAN DO IT BY MAP OR STREET, AND WE CAN MAKE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENTS WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL. THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT IS REALLY CUMBERSOME. I THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, MODIFICATION. OKAY. AND THEN JUST GENERALLY ONE SORT OF GLOBAL COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW BUSINESSES ARE INCORPORATED IN THIS. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS IS RESIDENT DRIVEN. WE'RE LOOKING AT RESIDENT COUNTS RESIDENT APPROVAL 60% TO CHANGE IT. IF YOU'RE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES PCH, ARTESIA, OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THEY'RE IMPACTED OR THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD MOVE INTO A PLACE THAT'S VERY COMMERCIAL. AND IT WAS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU MOVED IN, AND NOW YOU JUST WANT TO GET RID OF ALL THE PARKING. AND THEN WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT WITHIN THE CODE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR MORE RECENT PERMIT REQUESTS. YOU KNOW, I HAND DELIVERED THOSE NOTICES TO THOSE BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE EFFECTS OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE CODE CHANGE, IS THAT IF WE MOVE THIS TO A MORE COUNCIL ADOPTED POLICY, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER EFFECTS SPECIFIC TO THAT GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. OKAY. YEAH. AND CERTAIN CHANGES LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S VERY BINARY. EITHER YOU'RE IN A PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE OR YOU'RE NOT AROUND ARTESIA, FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD HAVE THE FIRST FEW STREETS BE TWO HOUR PARKING FOR EVERYBODY UNLESS YOU HAVE A PERMIT. AND THEN IT'S KIND OF UNLIMITED, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THAT WHERE IT HELPS A BUSINESS WITH THE TURNOVER THAT BUSINESSES HAVE. BUT IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT THERE, THEN THAT DOESN'T APPLY. THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THE, IS ALL OF THESE ADDITIVE ZONES HAVE BEEN BASED ON THAT INITIAL CONSTRUCT OF YOU SHALL, THE COUNCIL SHALL CREATE A LIKE IF WE JUST STRIP THAT BARE AND COME UP WITH, MUCH LIKE WE DO WHEN WE SET REGULATIONS IN A PARK, PARKING LOT OR AT THE LIBRARY WHERE WE DECIDED TO CREATE THE TWO HOUR RESTRICTION, WE HAVE TO CLEAR WE CAN DO THAT BY RESOLUTION, THAT IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PROGRAM. WE'VE CREATED THIS OVERARCHING CONSTRUCT THAT THAT BINDS US, I THINK, AS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. RIGHT, OKAY. YEAH. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CASE WHERE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES HIT, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO UNDO THE WHOLE THING, TO REDO IT OR EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT, OR, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY WHEN YOU SEE THE, THE ACTUAL RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TOTALLY PREDICT. CORRECT? YEAH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH, JUST QUICKLY, I SUPPORT BIFURCATING THIS. LET'S MOVE. THE SEASONAL PERMIT THAT'S NEEDED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABUSE OF THE VISITOR PERMIT PARKING. AND, AND THE OTHER EFFICIENCIES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. SO HOWEVER WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT LET'S DO IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU RYAN. THANK YOU ANDY. I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, SO I WON'T REPEAT IT. WITH RESPECT TO THE SEASIDE HOLIDAY LIGHTS ISSUE. WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU PROPOSING? AND DO YOU HAVE A MAP THAT COULD HELP US VISUALIZE IT? NOT READY, BUT LET ME SEE IF WE CAN PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS UP AND GOOGLE MAPS. [02:30:01] YEAH. IF I COULD SHOW THIS SCREEN. THE MOST HEAVILY IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD IS THIS THIS ONE WHICH MAYBE SHOW THE . YEAH. THIS MAP. YEAH. SO SO AVENUE H, YOU KNOW, IT'S FROM THE REDONDO SIDE ONLY ENTERS IN THROUGH PROSPECT DURING THE HOLIDAY TIMES. WE PUT, PARDON ME, IF YOU COULD DELINEATE REDONDO VERSUS TORRANCE. SO YES. LET ME LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT. THE CITY BOUNDARY UP. THERE IT IS. THERE WE GO THERE. SO WE PUT IN BOLLARDS RIGHT ON THE CITY BOUNDARY THERE, SO THAT AVENUE H IN OUR CITY EFFECTIVELY BECOMES A CUL DE SAC. AND THE PERMANENT BOLLARDS, WHICH ARE THE THEY GO 5:00 THEY COME OUT AT 10:00 EVERY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM THANKSGIVING UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, DURING THE PENDENCY OF THIS SEASIDE HOLIDAY. EXACTLY. OKAY. AND SO WE THAT CREATES UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF A, YOU KNOW, A ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT SITUATION. PEOPLE COME IN LOOKING FOR PARKING. THEY CAN'T. WE DON'T REALLY. UNTIL LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD WAY TO TURN CARS AROUND WITHOUT DOING A THREE POINT TURN. PEOPLE THINK THERE'S A SECRET WAY OUT THROUGH CERTAIN DRIVEWAYS. THERE IS NOT. SO THERE'S A BARRIER THAT GOES UP. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ON THOSE STREETS AND SOMETHING WE COULD ADVERTISE AT THE PROSPECT ENTRANCE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS, YOU KNOW, PARKING BY PERMIT ONLY DURING THIS SEASONAL PERIOD. AND FROM 5 TO 10 OR WHENEVER, WHENEVER THE BOLLARDS WOULD STAY UP, KEEP THE BOLLARDS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR. I THINK THE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT ACTION. YOU'LL GET AN ACTION ITEM FROM ANDY AND HIS TEAM TYPICALLY IN NOVEMBER, WHERE YOU BLESS THE CLOSURE. TEMPORARY CLOSURE, STREET CLOSURE OF AVENUE H SLASH DORIS WAY. DURING THE PERIOD THAT ANDY DESCRIBED WHERE WE, AND WE PLACED THE BOLLARDS AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO LIMIT EGRESS INGRESS INTO THE SLEEPY HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, THAT IN ITSELF HAS ALSO HAS CREATED PROBLEMS, OF COURSE, FOR TORRANCE CIRCULATION. AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED, REQUESTED AND COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON NOT JUST THIS, BUT THE TRUCK ROUTE ISSUE. SO THIS HAS ALL COME UP IN KIND OF COMBINATION WITH THIS AS YOU CAN IMAGINE ONE ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT TORRANCE HAS HAD IS TO NOT ALLOW NECESSARILY INGRESS INTO THE SLEEPY HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG AVENUE H, BUT TO ALLOW EGRESS FROM SLEEPY HOLLOW OUT AVENUE H WITH PERSONNEL, WHICH THEY HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO PROVIDING TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THAT LOCATION. SO IN LIEU OF THE BOLLARD, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD STAFF A TRAFFIC CONTROL OFFICER TO MANAGE EGRESS ONLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO TAKE UP. ONE POTENTIAL WAY TO MITIGATE THE ISSUE THAT EXISTS TODAY WITH JUST THE TWO BOLLARDS, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY WHAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THE EGRESS SCENARIO, IS TO PROVIDE CONTROLLED PARKING PERMIT PARKING IN THIS REGION. NOW, WHETHER OR NOT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE WOULD PROPOSE IT TO BE JUST WEST OF OR EAST OF PROSPECT AND ALONG MASSENA AND THE KIND OF ADJACENT CUL DE SAC. THE PERMIT PARKING? PERMIT PARKING WE MAY EVEN WANT TO CONTEMPLATE. I THINK THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE WE WOULD START THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS, PER SE. I THINK A LOT OF PARKING OCCURS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF PROSPECT AVENUE AS WELL, ON THE AVENUE, SO WE'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE. BETWEEN THE TORRANCE BOUNDARY AND PROSPECT. THEY GET INUNDATED THIS TIME OF YEAR WITH PARKING FROM VISITORS SEASONAL PERMIT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM. IT'S BEYOND PARKING. IT IS THE CONGESTION AS WELL. CONGESTION, THE TRASH THAT ENSUES AND THE TRASH WE PUT OUR TRASH CANS, TAILGATING, ETC. THAT CAN SOMETIMES OCCUR. AND I THINK RECENTLY TORRANCE HAS ALSO DONE ALTERNATE SIDE NO PARKING FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. SO THAT HAS GREATLY DECREASED THE AVAILABILITY OF VISITOR PARKING ON THE TORRANCE SIDE, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE BEEN HEARING MORE ISSUES ON OUR END. AND IS THERE A SCENARIO, PERHAPS, UNDER WHICH THE BOLLARDS WOULD COME OUT COMPLETELY IN CONNECTION WITH SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH TORRANCE ON OTHER ISSUES? THERE IS, BUT I THINK WE'RE MAYBE TRYING TO AND I'M GIVING GREAT DEFERENCE HERE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL LIKE IS TRULY A DISTRICT ISSUE. IT'S A VERY EXCLUSIVE DISTRICT ISSUE. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER MOUTH IS MAYBE A BABY STEP WOULD BE A PILOT TO ALLOW EGRESS ONLY AS AN OPTION TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS MIGHT BE BEFORE COMMITTING TO FULL, [02:35:03] FULL BOLLARD REMOVAL BECAUSE INGRESS AT THIS LOCATION WOULD THEN CREATE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ALONG PROSPECT AVENUE. RIGHT. BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO'S COME DOWN HERE, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE QUEUING ON PCH TO GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. OR IF YOU COME IN UP THROUGH THE SEASIDE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NORTH, IT'S QUITE IT'S QUITE THE QUEUE. SO Q AND DO WE MANAGE AND WOULD WE BE PROPOSING IF NOT TO MANAGE WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL ON THE PROSPECT AVENUE H AREA? DO NOT ENTER. WE DO THAT. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE SIGNBOARDS TO THAT. WE. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR. I THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE WE SPENT THE MOST RESOURCES WITH A MESSAGE, SIGN ENFORCEMENT SIGNS. WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL THERE. YES. YEAH, WE DO THAT. YEAH. WELL AND WE WE WROTE SOME TICKETS TOO. SO YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IT IS, IT REQUIRES CONCERTED ENERGY AND ATTENTION ON OUR PART. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN IT THOUGHT WILL BE GIVEN, PRESUMABLY WITH THE INPUT OF THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AS TO WHETHER THERE'S A BROADER AGREEMENT THAT COULD BE REACHED WITH TORRANCE, WHEREBY THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DURING THIS PERIOD MAYBE COULD BE REMOVED, IF THAT'S AN AGREEMENT COULD BE REACHED ON OTHER THINGS OR NOT, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. IF THE, IF PROPOSED, THE PERMIT PARKING GOES IN ON AVENUE H AND MAYBE MASSENA, IT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER THAT MAY PUSH PARKING TO WEST OF PROSPECT. DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH. IT COULD. OKAY. I PARKED WEST OF PROSPECT AND WALKED DOWN. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT ALREADY. THEY ALREADY DO THAT. BUT I THINK I THINK OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS JUST THE TRAFFIC FLOW. THESE STREETS WEST OF PROSPECT. THEY THEY END UP AT A DIFFERENT STREET. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT WILL BE PART OF WHATEVER DISCUSSION HAPPENS ON A PROPOSAL ON THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS SQUARELY IN DISTRICT ONE. I'M NOT SEEING THIS IMPACTING SOMETHING CITYWIDE OR COMMERCIALLY NEARBY. AND SO, YEAH, I'M GIVING GREAT DEFERENCE TO WHAT THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL PERSON WANTS TO DO HERE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER OBAGI. QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU DO SEASONAL PERMIT PARKING, HOW DO YOU NOTIFY FOLKS THAT THAT PARKING IS PROHIBITED? IS IT THOSE MANUAL WRITTEN SIGNS THAT GO UP? TICKET ON THEIR WINDOW? YEAH. SO THEY'LL CALL IT [LAUGHS] $110 LATER. THEY KNOW IT. WE CAN POST PARKING SIGNS. WE CAN USE CHANGEABLE MESSAGE SIGNS TO ALERT PEOPLE NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHO ARE USED TO BEING ABLE TO PARK THERE, THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THIS YEAR, CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FINITE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THERE THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO DIRECTLY WITH THESE CHANGES. I THINK, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THE WORD OUT. WELL, GET NOTIFYING THE LOCALS. EASY. HAVING PROPER SIGNAGE SO THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THE NO PARKING. I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS WELL. PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED TO COME FROM OUT OF THE AREA THAT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED THIS YEAR, POTENTIALLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NOTIFY THAT WE CAN PUT THAT ON CHANGEABLE MESSAGE BOARD SIGNS AND THAT KIND OF THING RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. I'M SURE YOU'RE I'M SURE YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOUR TRAFFIC EXPERTS BUT WHEN SOMEBODY TURNS DOWN A DEBT, A CUL DE SAC STREET OFTEN OTHER PEOPLE FOLLOW BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT PERSON KNOWS WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND THEN THEN YOU GET THE WHOLE JAM PLUS THE THREE POINT TURN. NOW EVERYBODY'S DOING THE THREE POINT TURN. SO DO YOU GUYS TRY TO NIP THAT IN THE BUD? I TAKE IT YEAH WE HAVE THAT. THAT'S THE SIGNAGE. WE HAVE NO THROUGH TRAFFIC ETCETERA AT PROSPECT. WE HAD DEAD END. WELL WE HAD A WE PUT OUT A LOT OF SIGNS LAST YEAR. WE ACTUALLY HAD CHRISTMAS LIGHT THEMED DIRECTIONAL WAYFINDING SIGNS AT PV BOULEVARD AND AT PCH TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO GET TO THE TO THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS. AND THEN WE HAD NO OUTLET SIGNS AT EVERY ANGLE AT THAT INTERSECTION. TORRANCE YOU KNOW,. CHANGEABLE MESSAGE SIGNS. WE EVEN CREATED, YOU KNOW, NO THROUGH TRAFFIC. WE EVEN CREATED A LAST RESORT TEMPORARY ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH ACTUALLY DID WORK OUT WELL. I MIGHT HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE THIS SEASON JUST TO SEE YOUR SIGNS [LAUGHS] AND EXPERIENCE A TEMPORARY ROUNDABOUT. WE COULD PUT LIGHTS ON THEM THIS YEAR. AND MAYBE JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION THEN. SO FOR IF THIS WERE TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITH THE SEASONAL PERMIT, THE SIGNAGE, WOULD IT BE SEASONAL AS WELL. RIGHT. WE WOULD WE WOULD YEAH. WE WOULD REMOVE IT AT THE END OF THE PERIOD. YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE'D PRINT THEM ON METAL, MAYBE SOME PLASTIC BOARD AND STAPLE THEM ON CONES. THAT'S WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO FOR TEMPORARY INSTALLATIONS. WE CAN MAKE THOSE THEMED. YEAH, WE COULD DO A HOLIDAY WITHIN FEDERAL AND STATE STANDARDS. YEAH. I MEAN, OKAY, LET'S GO. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. [02:40:03] MARY CLAIRE, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING QUITE A WHILE. APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU'RE THE ONLY CARD I HAVE. YEAH. I'M MARY CLAIRE SCANLON. THANKS FOR CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE. AND I KNOW I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK LAST YEAR BECAUSE I LIVE ON MASSENA AVENUE. I WANT TO REALLY SAY THAT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT A PARKING PERMIT IS THE ANSWER. WHAT WE ARE REALLY DEALING WITH IS TERRIBLE TRAFFIC ISSUES, BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW AND THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO TURN. AND I DON'T THINK THAT HAVING A PERMIT IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT. I DO THINK THAT WHAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR WAS SUPER HELPFUL, BUT IT ALSO REALLY MADE ME REALIZE, AS A PERSON WHO DRIVES IN THAT AREA, THAT AVENUE H IS VERY DARK AND VERY NARROW. AND AS SOMEBODY POINTED OUT, YES, YOU CAN POINT AT TULITA, YOU CAN PARK AT TULITA. IT'S PUBLIC. IT ALWAYS FILLS UP. BUT EVERYBODY WHO PARKS THERE ONTO AT TULITA OR ANYWHERE AROUND THERE AND AVENUE H IS ITS OWN LIKE IT IS VERY DARK AND VERY NARROW. AND IF YOU MAKE IT AN EGRESS, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HAVE ANY PARKING ON THAT STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST WALK OUT ON THE STREET. ONCE THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, LET'S WALK AROUND. AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THAT STREET INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PULLING THEIR STROLLER OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. IT HAS IT MAYBE IS PARKING ON H. BUT IF YOU'RE IN MASSENA AND CIRCLE, THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY A PARKING PERMIT, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST PEOPLE THINKING THAT THERE'S A SECRET WAY AND THEY'RE TURNING AROUND AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING. IT'S NOT PARKING PERMITS, NOT REALLY WORK. THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH PARKING THERE. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG ISSUE. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE MOVED INTO THIS AREA, WE KNEW ABOUT THIS. SO THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE. BUT WHAT HAS GOTTEN WORSE OVER THE YEARS IS THAT IT'S BLOWN UP ON TIKTOK. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IT IS A TRAFFIC ISSUE. IT'S NOT A PARKING ISSUE. IT'S A TRAFFIC ISSUE. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. HAVE YOU CONSIDERING, BASED ON HER COMMENTS ABOUT TIKTOK, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED IT? HAVING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA COORDINATOR MAKE A VIDEO ON TIKTOK ABOUT HOW THESE ARE ALL DEAD END STREETS LEADING TO SLEEPY HOLLOW AND DON'T COME DOWN AVENUE H, MASSENA OR CIRCLE? THAT COULD BE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS YEAR. HOPEFULLY WE GO VIRAL. AND WE'LL PUT KYLE IN A SANTA COSTUME [LAUGHS]. YEAH. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CLOSE OFF AVENUE H? IF WE OPEN THAT TO EXIT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, FROM TORRANCE COMING TO PROSPECT. COULD WE BLOCK OFF MASSENA THERE AT AVENUE H JUST TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GOING DOWN THE STREET? THAT'S UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PERMIT. THAT'S THE TRICKY PART, IS THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS, WE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY TOUGH TIME PUTTING A BLOCKADE AND DETERMINING WHO IS WORTHY OF ENTRY. I MEAN, WITH THE PERMIT, THE POLICE CHIEF HAS TOLD US THAT HE CAN'T SELECTIVELY ALLOW SOME VEHICLES AND NOT OTHER VEHICLES UNLESS THERE'S A DECLARED EMERGENCY. THAT'S A NORMAL PROTOCOL. THE ONLY FIRE OR SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THE HOPE IS AS AS WORD GROWS THAT THERE ISN'T. SO THERE'S TWO ISSUES, RIGHT. THE FIRST ISSUE IS IT'S A DEAD END STREET. DON'T COME HERE. IF YOU'RE TAKING WAZE AND YOU THINK YOU CAN GET INTO SLEEPY HOLLOW FROM THE BACK ROUTE. IT'S WRONG. RIGHT? WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT A WAY TO NEUTRALIZE THAT THINKING. SECONDARILY, THOUGH, YOU HAVE MORE SOPHISTICATED RESIDENTS WHO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CAN'T GET IN THAT WAY, BUT YOU CAN WALK IN THAT WAY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE NEAREST PARKING AVAILABLE TO WALK IN. THAT WAY, THE MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT TULITA FIRST. IF THAT'S FULL, THEY FIND WHAT'S NEXT. AND IN SOME INSTANCES, THAT'S GENERATING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO HEAD IN DOWN AVENUE H, LOOKING AND BEING HOPEFUL THAT THEY'LL FIND SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE ENTRY. SO IF WE CAN DISSUADE BOTH SCENARIOS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION. AND AND IT'S A GOOD POINT ABOUT MAYBE SOME ZONES NEED TO BE NO PARKING. I MEAN, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE CAN TEMPORARILY STRIKE NO PARKING IF WE'VE GOT OTHER CONGESTION ISSUES OR TURNAROUND ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WE CAN ALSO DO THAT. SO WHERE'S THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLER H HITS PROSPECT? IT'S IT'S AN ALL WAY STOP THERE. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A THREE WAY STOP. THREE WAY. IT'S A WEIRD THREE WAY. STOP, STOP. WHERE'S THE. AND IT'S ELEVATED. WHERE'S THE THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE STOP. AVENUE E DOESN'T HAVE. YEAH. IT'S THE IT'S THE NEXT ONE HALFWAY DOWN. [02:45:02] YEAH. AND THE NEXT ONE SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, SKEWED UP. BUT H IS A THREE WAY STOP BECAUSE H. YEAH. IF WE COULD PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN WAY H GOES INTO PROSPECT AND GERTRUDA THEN GOES OUT. IT'S IT'S LIKE IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IN ALIGNMENT. SO, SO AT THIS PARTICULAR T ONLY NORTHBOUND AND WESTBOUND HAVE THE STOP. TECHNICALLY THE OTHER PARTS OF THE STOP ARE AT THIS NEXT INTERSECTION. IT'S A WEIRD. SO BY CONVENTION, I THINK SOMEONE MAKING A LEFT HERE YIELDS TO THAT SOMEONE WHO ARRIVED AT THAT STOP FIRST. IF IT'S IF IT'S JUST AN EXIT, COULD WE TEMPORARILY MAKE IT A FREE FLOW OUT AND MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE STOP? SIX WEEK BLOCK PARTY. YEAH. WELL, I DON'T THINK. I MEAN, WELL, THAT WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT WOULD KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING. THAT WOULD. THAT'S ANOTHER CIRCULATION QUESTION WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS DEPENDING ON THAT SCENARIO. I DON'T THINK THE CONGESTION IS NECESSARILY RIGHT AT THAT STOP SIGN. IT'S IT'S JUST A LARGE NUMBER OF CARS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE COME IN, THEY CIRCULATE AROUND. THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PARKING. THEY'RE THINKING THEY CAN GET IN. THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, SOME OF WHO ARE WALKING IN THE STREET. CROSSING THE STREET. IT'S A BIT OF A PARTY LIGHTING. I THINK THE LIGHTING POINT'S WELL TAKEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE FROM STREET LIGHTING STANDPOINT DOWN THERE. I'M NOT SURE HOW EASILY THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED, BUT WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AS WELL. TEMPORARY TOLL ROAD. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER. TO THE SPEAKER'S POINT. AND MAYBE SHE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION IF RESIDENTS DON'T NEED THE PARKING ON THE STREET, IF THERE WERE NO PARKING DURING THIS SEASONAL TIME, THAT MIGHT INDICATE TO OTHERS THAT THERE ISN'T PARKING ALLOWED THERE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT. THAT'S A THAT'S ANOTHER THAT'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS. BUT I DON'T, I MAYBE YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS BUT I, I CAN RESPOND TO THAT. NO. YEAH. GO AHEAD. SO THAT WAS A PROPOSAL BY SOME PEOPLE. CIRCLE HAS VERY LITTLE PARKING ON IT ALREADY. AND SO THE PEOPLE IN CIRCLE SUGGESTED NO PARKING. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE ON MASSENA, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE END, WE DO RELY ON OUR STREET PARKING, AND MOST OF US HAVE VERY SHORT DRIVEWAYS AND VERY LIMITED SPACE FOR PARKING. AND SOME OF US HAVE LARGE HOUSEHOLDS WITH SEVERAL DRIVERS. SO WE NEED THE STREET PARKING. AND IT WOULD BE AN INCONVENIENCE. AND FOR SOME OF OUR ELDERLY PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BECAUSE THERE IS AN INCLINE FOR THEM TO IF THEY IF THEY CAN'T PARK AT TULITA AND THEY CAN'T, WHERE WOULD THEY PARK? THEY WOULD HAVE TO PARK INTO THE AVENUES BE VERY DIFFICULT. SO THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID LOOK AT. BUT I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET VISITORS HOLIDAY PARTIES AND STUFF. SO I THINK A TOTAL PARKING PROHIBITION WAS PROBABLY PRETTY DRACONIAN. BUT IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS WHERE IT MIGHT CREATE VISIBILITY FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENTS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, ETC., IT MAY MAKE SOME SENSE. SO AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE OPEN PARKING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON THOSE STREETS, THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE A FEW LESS STROLLERS AND PEOPLE COMING OUT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WALKING ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE LOCALLY. SO MAYBE THAT HELPS SOME. I THINK I THINK THERE'LL BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS. YEAH. YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. NO, NO, NO. SORRY. I WAS POINTING TO SOMETHING ON HIS HAND. IS A DIGITAL. IT'S DIGITAL. IT'S STILL. I'M SORRY. DID I CUT YOU OFF? NOPE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THE DIRECTION YOU NEED COME BACK WITH? IT SOUNDS LIKE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH A PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE BIFURCATING. COME BACK WITH, AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN DO A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE MASSENA NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. MAYBE THAT'S THE THING. TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SO I CAN GET BETTER, MAKE SURE THAT I'M DOING BETTER INPUT. IT'D BE GOOD. I MEAN, AND WE'LL TRY TO WORK QUICKLY HERE TO HAVE THIS BE HOPEFULLY EFFECTIVE WITH THIS SEASON. SO I DID HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, MAYOR, IF I COULD, BEFORE WE WRAP IT UP, THERE WAS A REFERENCE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT TO FORGERIES, I BELIEVE, AND I WANTED TO ASK, HAVE THERE IN FACT BEEN ANY DOCUMENTED INSTANCES OF FORGERIES WITH RESPECT TO THESE PREFERENTIAL PARKING PASSES? I'VE HEARD MORE ABOUT THAT THAN THAT. THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THAT THE POLICE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER FOR. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT DIRECTLY FROM FROM PD. SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MANAGE THE THE DAY TO DAY PERMITS. THE PAPER FORGER. I THINK THE THE REFERENCE MAY I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WAS WRITTEN, BUT THE PAPER PERMITS THAT HANG ON THE WINDOW, FOR INSTANCE, ARE EASIER TO FORGE. AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LICENSE PLATE BASED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [02:50:02] SO WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT VISITOR PERMITS HAVE SHOWN UP ON I DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUT TOO MANY IDEAS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FRAUD OF YOU KNOW, HANDING THOSE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO MORE THAN JUST A VISITOR TO A PARTICULAR PREFERENTIAL PARKING ZONE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE REFERENCE TO FORGERY THAT'S IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT CAME FROM PD. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. I, DON'T RECALL WHERE WE GOT THAT INFORMATION WOULD HAVE COME FROM. PARKING ENFORCEMENT, MAYBE PARKING ENFORCEMENT? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE. OKAY. OTHER DIRECTION. NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GENERAL CONSENSUS ON COMING BACK WITH OVERALL PERMIT CHANGES OR PROGRAM CHANGES AT THE RIGHT TIME AT A LATER TIME. BUT. BUT SOMETHING MORE HASTY ON THE HOLIDAY. GOT IT TOO. YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST ADD, IF I MAY, MAYOR, TO THE EXTENT COME BACK WITH PIECES OF THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH IN HERE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT COULD BE HELPFUL ALONG THE WAY. YEAH. IT'S PRETTY HEAVY DROP WITH WHAT WAS. IT IS. IT IS. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A STARTING POINT. SUBCOMMITTEE? NO. [LAUGHS] I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO WE'LL NEED TO EVALUATE THE OVERARCHING CONSTRUCT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO START. IT MAY BE THE EASIEST WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS TO KIND OF DO A FULL REPEAL AND REPLACE. GIVE US, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FRESH START. SO WE'LL WE'LL KICK THAT AROUND WORKING WITH JOY AND HER TEAM INTERNALLY. BUT THIS WAS AN INTRODUCTION. SO I WAS KIND OF SERIOUS ABOUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLORE A WORKSHOP AND MAYBE GET PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS THERE. OH, I MEAN. THEY CAN DO A COMMUNITY MEETING. IF YOU CAN DO A COMMUNITY MEETING SLASH WORKSHOP, YOU CAN HOST IT AT MASSENA PARKETTE. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE, LET'S SEE. JUMP INTO ITEM O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS. NOTHING. [O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS] JUST YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT MENTIONED IT AS WELL. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A BIT OF A BREAK NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE OCCUPYING THAT TIME. SO PLEASE NOTE THE THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU WHETHER IT BE THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION DINNER NEXT TUESDAY, WE'VE GOT I THINK GROUNDBREAKING AT THE PERRY PARK TEEN CENTER COMING UP. WORKSHOP. WE'VE GOT WORKSHOP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, I THINK, A GROUNDBREAKING ON THE NEW PARKETTES PARK OPEN SPACE ON HERONDO STREET HERE AT THE END OF THE MONTH AS WELL. SO A LOT OF ACTIVITIES COMING UP. BUT WE ARE DARK FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE UNTIL OCTOBER 7TH. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. LET'S SEE. MAYOR ON COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF. [Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF] COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. NONE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. REFERRAL TO STAFF. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S COME UP IN SOME OF THE FINANCIAL REPORTS IS THAT WE'RE DRAWING DOWN BASICALLY OUR INVESTMENTS TO FUND CASH NEEDS OF THE CITY, AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT AND I THINK IT'S KEPT AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL, ANY MONEY THAT'S OWED FOR SERVICES THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED FOR EVENTS OR PROJECT WORKS HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, WORK FOR SOME GROUP OR, YOU KNOW, SOME EVENT. AND IF WE'VE BEEN PAID, SO DO WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE OUT THERE THAT WE COULD COLLECT AND HELP OUR CASH FLOW. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG. YEAH, I'D HAVE TO. I'D HAVE TO WORK WITH STEPHANIE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD PROVIDE. IT MAY NOT HAVE TO BE AN ITEM. IT MIGHT BE JUST SOMETHING I CAN CIRCULATE TO YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, AS A AS AN ITEM OFFLINE AND EMAIL. YOU KNOW, ONE COMES TO MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S NOT A BIG DOLLAR ITEM, BUT WE CERTAINLY. YEAH. AND I WAS THINKING OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE ONE IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, TWO IS IF THERE ARE ANY OLD ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE THAT JUST HAVE NEVER BEEN PAID. YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OF THAT OUTSTANDING. BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS THE NOTION OF IF THERE'S UNTIMELY REIMBURSEMENT, HAVE WE LOST INVESTMENT CAPACITY AS A RESULT OF THAT? AND IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE SOURCE OF THAT EXPENDITURE INITIALLY IS ELIGIBLE FOR INVESTMENT. RIGHT. WE HOLD A LOT OF CASH OFF THE INVESTMENT POOL BECAUSE OF THE CYCLICAL NATURE OF OUR UTILIZATION. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT I THINK EUGENE AND STEPHANIE AND HER TEAM, THEY NEED TO WORK THROUGH. HOW AGGRESSIVE ARE WE IN INVESTING WHAT WE CAN VERSUS JUST HOLDING IT AS CASH IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR EXPENDITURE. SO. RIGHT. BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS IF WE IF A CITY DEPARTMENT PERFORMS SOME SERVICE AND NEVER COLLECTED THE MONEY THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PAID FOR THAT, AND WE'VE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, PAY EMPLOYEES AND THINGS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING TO, YOU KNOW. YEAH, MAKE CASH ON THAT. THAT'S IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING WHAT'S OWED TO US. WE'RE HAVING TO PULL THE CASH. THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY RARE THAT'S A VERY RARE OCCURRENCE. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE A SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE A, AN INSURANCE, AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT FROM INSURANCE BECAUSE SOMEBODY, [02:55:07] SOME A VEHICLE HAS CRASHED INTO A SIGN AND WE AND THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO COLLECT. BUT THEN THAT FOLLOWS A PROCESS TOO MUCH. IT'S EITHER. YEAH I THINK WHAT I CAN DO IS GET YOU A LIST. YOU'RE GOING TO MAIL US SOMETHING OR. OKAY. YEAH. SO DO YOU NEED A. NO, I THINK WHAT I THINK WELL, OKAY, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF HIS QUESTION. AND I'LL HAVE STEPHANIE PREPARE WHAT SHE CAN ALONG THOSE LINES AND CIRCULATE TO ALL OF YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. NONE FOR ME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. BARRON. NO. AND NOTHING FROM ME. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WE'RE NOT ADJOURNING TO ANYONE TONIGHT, RIGHT? MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE OCTOBER 7TH. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL FOR? AYE. SO WE WILL BE ADJOURNING TO CLOSED SESSION MEETING AT 4:30, OPEN SESSION MEETING AT 6 P.M. ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH. SO NO MORE. AS CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY STATED, NO MORE MEETINGS THIS MONTH. OCTOBER 7TH WILL BE OUR FIRST ONE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.