Oct 08, 2025 Public Amenities Commission

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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OCTOBER 8TH, 2025. PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER MAROKO.

HERE. COMMISSIONER LANG. HERE. COMMISSIONER GALASSI.

HERE. COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY. HERE. COMMISSIONER ROWE.

HERE. OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN DO BUSINESS.

COMMISSIONER LANG WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING TO ITEM D ON OUR AGENDA.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

OH, SORRY. I'M AHEAD OF MYSELF. YEAH. F.2, I WANTED TO.

OKAY. OKAY. SO ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA GOING THROUGH? YEAH. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? MOTION. OKAY, WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY [INAUDIBLE].

SECOND. AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THE. WE'VE APPROVED THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.

MOVING TO ITEM E, BLUE FOLDER ITEM, ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIALS.

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME HARD COPY ITEMS THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? MAKE A MOTION TO. THANK YOU. A SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM F, THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

ANY, COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY. DO YOU WANT TO PULL ANYTHING? NO. COMMISSIONER ROWE. NO. COMMISSIONER LANG.

NO. OKAY. I LIKE TO ALSO PULL F.4 FROM IT. SO.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS F,1 OR F.3? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS F.1 AND F.3? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE F.1 AND F.3. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ARE YOU CATCHING ALL THESE SECONDS AND STUFF? BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY QUIET. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE APPROVED.

NOW WE MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AND COMMISSIONER GALASSI.

[G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]

THE TOP OF PAGE TWO. IT WAS ACTUALLY I WHO ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROGRAM RATHER THAN THAN, YOU KNOW, WHICH QUESTION? IT WAS ON THE TOP OF PAGE TWO. WHICH ITEM REGARDING? I BEG YOUR PARDON? WHICH? WHICH ITEM IS THAT? H.1 L.1. SECOND. SO? THAT'S PAGE TWO. LOOKS LIKE IT'S F'S. ON L.1.

THE SECOND PART OF L.1. COMMISSIONER MAROKO ASKED HOW THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM WAS ABLE TO EXCEED THE STATISTICS OF PRIOR YEARS.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY ME WHO ASKED THE QUESTION. OKAY.

THAT'S ACTUALLY ON PAGE. IT WAS MINOR. IT'S ON OUR MINUTES.

IT'S PAGE FOUR OF NINE RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE 409.

YES. IT'S FOUR. YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY.

SO THAT SHOULD BE YOU. SO CAN WE APPROVE THE MINUTES? WITH THAT CHANGE. I DO HAVE SOME THINGS ON THAT THAT I WANT TO ADD INTO HERE.

SO UNDER L.3 I BELIEVE. ON SUMMER READING

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SORRY. IT'S ON F.4. SO UNDER THAT SECTION, IT SAID THAT I ASKED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MARC WIENER, WHICH HE DID NOT, WHICH I DID NOT FEEL WERE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.

AND SINCE I BELIEVE THAT OUR THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE ARE OUR MINUTES.

AND I DID JUST SO IT SAYS THAT I WAS GOING TO DO AMENDMENTS.

I DID AMENDMENTS, SENT THEM OFF TO THE CITY OVER A WEEK AGO, I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS SO THAT WHEN IT COMES UP AGAIN ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THE AUGUST MINUTES, THAT YOU AT LEAST HAVE THE ABILITY TO READ THEM.

SO I'M GOING TO PASS THEM DOWN. AND IN THE SAKE OF DISCLOSURE, COMMISSIONER LANG ACTUALLY REVIEWED THEM.

AND I DID SEND A COPY OVER TO COMMISSIONER GALASSI AS WELL.

SO IF YOU CAN GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, SO THIS IS NOT US ADOPTING IT.

THAT'S BASICALLY PUTTING IT ON TO WHEN IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE BE PART OF THAT. OKAY. SO NOW CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED FOR SEPTEMBER? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THOSE ARE APPROVED. NOW WE GO TO ITEM H.4 I MEAN F.4 THAT I PULLED AND MISS ORTA, DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR REPORT? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANTED AN OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT ITSELF.

YES. I DO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. SO GIVE ME A SECOND TO GET PAST THE LIBRARY REPORT.

SO WE'VE HAD ON OUR AGENDA PREVIOUSLY THE PARK RANGER PROGRAM, AND I BELIEVE IN MAY, IT WAS BROUGHT BACK UP TO THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND IT STILL HASN'T.

WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE PARK RANGER PROGRAM? WE, AS STAFF HAVE DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THAT LARGER CONVERSATION ON SUBCOMMITTEES, BECAUSE THE SPECIFICALLY THAT WAS A DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO DEVELOP A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR PARK RANGER PROGRAM.

AND SO THE COMMISSION, THROUGH OTHER DISCUSSIONS, HAS DECIDED THAT IT WANTED TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION ON SUBCOMMITTEES AS A WHOLE, LOOK AT WHAT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED VERSUS WHAT MAYBE SOME OTHER NEEDS ARE.

AND SO WE HAVE THAT TABLED ON OUR SITE, AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK FOR THAT LARGER DISCUSSION.

OKAY. AND ALSO THERE WAS A PARK DEDICATION ON SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR THE PARK.

I DON'T RECALL US HEARING ABOUT IT UNTIL ACTUALLY A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THAT HAPPENED.

WHEN DOES WHEN DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT GET PLANNED AND WHEN DOES IT GET COMMUNICATED TO US? AND WE ARE TAKING OVER THE PARTS OF THE REC AND PARKS COMMISSION.

SO FOR THAT EVENT SPECIFICALLY OUR, OUR TEAM ACTUALLY WASN'T TOO INVOLVED IN THAT EVENT ITSELF.

SO I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK WITH CERTAINTY ON WHEN THE EVENT DETAILS WERE FINALIZED.

SO IF YOU IF YOU WERE NOT INFORMED OF THAT, I DO APOLOGIZE.

WE DO TRY TO INFORM YOU OF ANYTHING THAT IS PARKS AND REC RELATED, ESPECIALLY OPENINGS.

CERTAINLY THOSE ARE CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU GUYS.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT EVENT WAS PUT TOGETHER RATHER QUICKLY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS LESS THAN 2 TO 3 WEEKS.

SO THERE CERTAINLY WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE NOTICE.

ARE THERE ANY PROGRAMS OR ANYTHING THAT WAS PRODUCED FOR THAT EVENT LIKE A DEDICATION PROGRAM.

DO YOU MEAN LIKE THE ACTUAL, LIKE, HANDOUT FOR THE EVENT, A PROGRAM? I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO I UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE EVENT THAT AFTERNOON, SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT I CAN CHECK AND SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SEE A COPY OF ONE.

YEAH. IF IT WAS, CAN YOU DISTRIBUTE IT TO US AS WELL? SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I GOT COMMUNICATED BY THE PERSON WHO'S BEEN TRYING TO GET THE RIVIERA PARK

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THAT SAID, WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS? YEAH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING THE CONTENT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION HAS GONE THROUGH SOME HISTORICAL ACCURACY TESTING.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS THERE. THERE'S ALSO SOME ROOM IN THERE THAT LET'S SAY IT MENTIONED A DATE.

THAT'S A HISTORICAL EVENT HAPPENED. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT TO THAT AND ACTUALLY ADD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE YEAR. JUST I THINK THAT'S MUCH MORE MEMORIALIZING ON A, ON A MEMORIAL SIGN IN A PARK.

AND SO THAT WAS MY INTENT AND MY EMAIL TO THE APPLICANT THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

WE JUST WANT TO DO A FULL RUN THROUGH OF THE INFORMATION AND ADD ANY EXTRA CONTEXTUAL INFORMATION IF WE CAN.

I'M NOT CLEAR AS TO WHY, WHEN COMMISSIONER LANG WAS DOING ALL THE CLEANUP ON THE LANGUAGE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE PROPOSED THAT AT THAT TIME.

WELL, AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST AN EFFORT BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER LANG AND THE FAMILY.

SO WE CERTAINLY WERE THE ONES THAT SHEPHERDED IT BACK THROUGH THE COMMISSION, BUT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT DIRECT PROCESS OF REVIEWING THAT LANGUAGE AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. SO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE WRAPPED UP WHEN APPROXIMATELY UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T SAY WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON, BUT IT'S ON OUR LIST. I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY DEFINITIVE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT WRAPPED UP SOON.

I KNOW THAT THE FAMILY HAS BEEN ANXIOUSLY WAITING THIS PROJECT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO GET IT WRAPPED UP SOON BECAUSE I'M GETTING THE EMAILS FROM THEM AND I'M KEEPING THEM FROM EMAILING YOU ALL THE TIME.

SO THE SOONER IT WOULD BE BETTER. SURE. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON F.4. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON F.4? CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, SO YOU GUYS SAID OR YOU SAID THAT PARKS AND REC WAS NOT INVOLVED IN PLANNING THAT.

WHO WOULD PLAN THAT? IS IT THE THAT EVENT WAS PLANNED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THEY WERE TAKING THE LEAD ON IT. AND THEN I OBVIOUSLY WITH SUPPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO MOVING FORWARD, IF THERE IS AN EVENT AT A PARK SINCE PUBLIC WORKS DOES THE MAINTENANCE, ARE THEY THE ONES THAT WOULD MOSTLY PLAN IT, OR IS IT NOT NECESSARILY.

EVERY EVENT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE WILDERNESS POND, EXCUSE ME, WILDERNESS PARK, LOWER POND PROJECT, THE GROUNDBREAKING WE DID, OUR TEAM DID THAT EVENT.

SO IT REALLY JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE EVENT IS THERE TO DO AND THE PURPOSE OF IT.

AND FOR THAT ONE, IT JUST WAS ASSIGNED TO A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. IF I COULD MAKE A REQUEST THAT MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU GUYS DO HAVE AN EVENT, IF YOU COULD EMAIL THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE I THINK I MISSED THE LOWER POND DEDICATION.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING. SO THE NEWSPAPER AFTER THE FACT.

SO. BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD BE GREAT TO ATTEND.

SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DID ATTEND THE GROUNDBREAKING. I HAD ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO COUNCILMAN OBAGI BEFOREHAND BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT THE MAYOR HAD POSTED IT ON FACEBOOK AND INVITED THE PUBLIC ON FACEBOOK.

AND THEN I REALIZED, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO I DID SPEAK TO HIM AND HE DID SPEAK TO STAFF, AND THAT'S WHY WE WOUND UP GETTING AN EMAIL, ALBEIT A LITTLE BIT LATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IT WENT OUT.

SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, HE JUMPED ON THAT AND REALIZED THAT, YES.

YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. AND IT WAS NICE.

IT WAS VERY NICE AND EXCITED FOR THE PROJECT.

I DID YOU WANT TO UPDATE NOW OR AT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMITTEES REGARDING ALTAVISTA AND FRANKLIN PARK? I CAN, I SUPPOSE, SINCE IT'S A PARKS AND REC ITEM ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE CONSENT ITEM, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT NOW. BUT SO FOR FRANKLIN PARK AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATED ABOUT $500,000 TO REDO THE PLAYGROUND AT THAT LOCATION. KEEPING THE SAME FOOTPRINT BUT JUST REPLACING THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE MET WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEE. ACTUALLY, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE HERE, I SHOULD SAY, HAS MET WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS GALASSI, LANG, AND I BELIEVE MR. COMMISSIONER CALDWELL IS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL. AND WE ARE AT THE STAGE NOW WHERE WE'VE REFINED THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ITSELF, AND WE'RE KIND OF FINALIZING AND FINE TUNING BOTH THE COLORS AND THE FULL LAYOUT.

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IT IS A FULLY ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND. AND SO WE SINCE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE OF ITS KIND IN REDONDO BEACH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP FEELS CONFIDENT IN THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE SELECTING. SO OUR COMPANY, ACTUALLY WE CONNECTED WITH THEM LATE LAST WEEK.

AND SO THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. SO WE WILL GET THAT TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP VERY SOON.

SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED FOR THAT PROGRESS. AND THEN FOR ALTA VISTA, WE ARE WE'VE GATHERED THE QUOTES THAT WE NEED FOR THE RESURFACING.

SO JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT WILL INCLUDE FULL COURT RESURFACING OF ALL EIGHT OF THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS AT ALTA VISTA.

ONE OF THOSE TENNIS COURTS WILL BECOME FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SO FOR THAT PROJECT, WE DID RECEIVE THREE QUOTES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE COMING IN A BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD RECEIVED LAST YEAR WHEN WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR IT.

SO WE'RE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT THE QUOTES TO SEE IF WE CAN PULL ANYTHING FROM THEM, SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF GET THOSE QUOTES A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN THE HOPES THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR TEAM TOMORROW AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS THOSE QUOTES, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON A SEPARATE VEIN.

WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE THE SOUND MITIGATION BLANKETS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING FOR THE WESTERN FENCE LINE OF THAT TENNIS COURT THAT WILL BECOME THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

OUR TEAM, THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PURCHASE, A SEPARATE FUNDING POT OF MONEY, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO OUR TEAM HAS ALREADY FINALIZED THAT ORDER, AND I BELIEVE IS EITHER READY TO ORDER OR ALREADY HAS ORDERED THAT EQUIPMENT.

OUR STAFF CAN INSTALL THAT. SO AS SOON AS IT'S ARRIVED, WE'LL TRY AND TIME THAT INSTALLATION WITH WHEN THE COURTS ARE READY OR IF THAT SHOULD BE INSTALLED BEFORE. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE HEAVY MACHINERY ON THE BRAND NEW SURFACE EQUIPMENT OR EXCUSE ME, I'M SURFACING SO WE'LL TIME THAT APPROPRIATELY.

BUT BOTH PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COURTS ARE JUST TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE THE PRICES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE ANTICIPATED, BUT WE'RE HOPING FOR SOME GOOD NEWS THERE.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT? SORRY. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR PERHAPS DECEMBER? I WOULD HOPE SO. I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHY NOT UNLESS WEATHER DELAYS, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN SOMEWHAT GOOD SHAPE.

SO HOPEFULLY TOMORROW WE'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH WITH YOU ALL, AT LEAST BY THE NEXT MEETING, AND KEEP YOU ON TRACK WITH THAT PROJECT.

THANK YOU. OF COURSE. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT? SO DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE RESURFACING SIX QUARTS ALTOGETHER AND JUST ONE PICKLEBALL COURT? NO, THERE'S EIGHT TENNIS COURTS THAT CURRENTLY WE'RE RESURFACING ALL EIGHT COURTS.

AND ONE OF THOSE EIGHT IS BEING TRANSITIONED INTO A FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SO WE'RE REALLY STILL RESURFACING EIGHT COURTS.

IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE COURTS. INSTEAD OF REAPPLYING, THE TENNIS COURT LINES WILL BECOME FOUR PICKLEBALL LINES.

OKAY. SO SO THEN THAT THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL APPROVED IS BECAUSE I THINK WE ASKED FOR PICKLEBALL COURT, BUT INSTEAD THEY APPROVED ALL ALL THE COURTS.

IT WAS A SEPARATE ASK OF STAFF AT A BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THIS YEAR OR THE YEAR PRIOR.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY DELAYED THE RESURFACING OF THE COURTS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE COUNCIL GIVING US DIRECTION ON THE PICKLE BOX.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO RESURFACE AT ALL AND THEN HAVE TO REPAINT IF WE NEEDED TO.

SO THE FULL RESURFACING OF THE COURTS WAS A SEPARATE REQUEST OF STAFF BECAUSE OF JUST ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP NEEDS.

SO WE'RE JUST ALIGNING THOSE TWO PROJECTS. OKAY, SO THERE'S PROBABLY ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS TO BE RESURFACED, BUT YOU'RE LIKE THE OTHER. YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY ENOUGH FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS, BUT FOR THE RESURFACING, WHICH SOME COURTS ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF OF RESURFACING AND REFRESH.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROWE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE THE TWO MORE QUESTIONS. SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALTAVISTA AND THE OTHER PART, DOMINGUEZ PARK, I KNOW YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF OPENING IT UP.

WHERE IS IT WITH THE COUNTY NOW? ARE YOU INVOLVED IN IT STILL? I AM PERSONALLY NOT TOO INVOLVED IN IT AT THIS POINT.

I THE LAST UPDATE I HEARD WAS THAT THEY OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WAS MEETING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THE PARK OPENED.

I HAVE NOT HEARD AN UPDATE ON HOW THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING, BUT I KNOW THAT IT IS PART OF AN ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

AND AS THE LEAD MR. WINJE I BELIEVE SO, YES. OKAY.

AND THEN MY LAST POINT IS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON PAGE 31 OF THE MATERIALS, YOUR DOCENT IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE GRAPHICS OF PROMOTING THE MUSEUM.

THIS ONE, THIS ONE IN HERE, WHICH IS REALLY NICE.

AND THERE'S ONE OUT IN THE HALLWAY, WHICH IS ALSO REALLY NICE.

SO PLEASE SEND MY GRATITUDE FOR THEM DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT? MOTION TO RECEIVE. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU GUYS HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP TOO.

SO I'M LOOKING AT HER BECAUSE IT USUALLY COMES IN VIA EMAIL.

AND WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE A BIG AUDIENCE LIKE THIS.

SO OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT PASSES AS WELL. WE'RE RECEIVING AND FILING IT.

AND THAT SHOULD TAKE US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM H WHICH IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

WELL YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP. WE TAKE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE FIRST.

THE PODIUM GOES UP AND DOWN AS YOU NEED IT. AND I THINK WE HAVE A CLOCK HERE FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR YOUR PART. I DON'T THINK I'LL NEED THREE MINUTES.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ANN AND BAKER HISTORIC HOME.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF TOURING IT DURING CHRISTMAS TIMES WHEN SHE WOULD OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY A DELIGHT. SHE JUST PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR.

A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I WAS WALKING MY DOG THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAW A SIGN OUT FRONT, A PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WHOEVER NOW OWNS THAT PROPERTY WANTS TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD A DUPLEX.

TOOK A PHOTO OF IT, AND I WANTED TO SHARE IT IN MY COMMUNITY GROUP ON FACEBOOK, AND THEN I FORGOT ABOUT IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DEADLINE OF AUGUST 20TH PASSED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS RESOLVED IN THAT PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU TODAY BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GALASSI HAD SAID THAT IT ACTUALLY IS ON THE WHAT DID YOU SAY, THE HISTORICAL REGISTER? IT'S IT'S ON THE LIST OF RESOURCES, HISTORICAL RESOURCES.

IT'S NOT IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNATED AS A LANDMARK PROPERTY.

RIGHT? WHEN YOU WOULD GO TO HER HOME, SHE HAD SOME PHOTO ALBUMS OUT IN THE BACK THAT YOU COULD READ, AND I TOOK SOME PICTURES OF THEM, AND ONE OF THEM INCLUDED AN ARTICLE THAT WAS WRITTEN CONTEMPORANEOUSLY.

AND I WANTED TO READ YOU HOW IT CONCLUDED. MY KIDS ARE INTERESTED IN THE ANTIQUES.

THEY BRING THEIR FRIENDS HERE TO GIVE THEM A TOUR ONCE AGAIN.

AND SHE WAS GOING BY MRS. HANSON. AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE BAKER CAME IN.

SHE'S QUOTED AS MRS. HANSON HERE ONCE WHEN MRS. HANSON SUGGESTED DIVIDING THE ANTIQUES BETWEEN THE CHILDREN.

THEY DIDN'T WANT HER TO BREAK UP THE COLLECTION.

QUOTE. ONE OF MY SONS WANTS THE HOUSE TO BE KEPT INTACT AND BE DECLARED AN HISTORICAL LANDMARK.

END QUOTE, MRS. HANSON SAYS. I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT THAT SOMEONE LEFT IN MY FACEBOOK GROUP.

I WANTED TO READ INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD ON HER BEHALF.

HER NAME IS JENNIFER KORBAN. K O R B A N, AND SHE WRITES HISTORIC PROPERTIES HAVE LOCAL AND STATE PRESERVATION LAWS THAT PROTECT THE PROPERTY'S HISTORIC INTEGRITY. PLEASE SAVE THIS HOME FROM DEVELOPERS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER OVERPRICED TOWNHOUSE.

AND ALSO, THAT MADE ME REALIZE I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T THINK I INTRODUCED MYSELF PROPERLY.

JILL CLAUSSEN, REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT SINCE 1994.

AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN DO TO PREVENT THAT HOME FROM BEING DEMOLISHED, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST SUCH A LANDMARK HERE.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YES, SIR. YOU SAID THAT IT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU SAID THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE ON A STAKE ON THE FRONT LAWN.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 20TH.

OKAY. I HAD TAKEN THAT PICTURE BEFORE THAT DEADLINE.

OF COURSE. OTHERWISE THE SIGN WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE.

BUT I FORGOT ABOUT IT. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS CLEANING MY PHONE OUT TO MAKE SOME SPACE ON IT TO DOWNLOAD AN APP.

DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND? I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

SO SHE'S ALREADY SHE'S JUST RESPONDING TO THE QUESTION.

YEAH, I SAW THE PHOTOS THERE. I THOUGHT, OH SHOOT, I FORGOT TO SAVE THIS AT THE TIME.

WELL, I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE IT A RANT, IF YOU WILL.

HOW? I'M TIRED OF US LOSING THESE HISTORIC HOMES.

AND THAT IS WHEN COMMISSIONER GALASSI REMINDED ME THAT THERE IS A A REGISTER, THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF A LISTING FOR THIS HOME ON, AND PERHAPS THERE IS STILL SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IF WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO DO WAS APPROVED ON THAT AUGUST 20TH PUBLIC

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WAS THAT PART OF PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED IT? NO. AUGUST 20TH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROJECT THAT CAME TO THIS BODY.

THAT WAS A WEDNESDAY. SO DIDN'T VOTE TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THE REGISTRY.

SO I DIDN'T CATCH THE ADDRESS. WHAT IS WHAT'S THE ADDRESS? OH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I WILL 218 ALBERTA, 218 SOUTH ALBERTA AVENUE.

AUGUST 20TH 25 WAS THE COMMENT DEADLINE. APPLICATION REQUEST CONSIDERATION OF AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AT ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL R-3 ZONE.

IS THERE A HEARING DATE WITH THAT? NO THERE'S NOT.

THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR FOR DEVELOPMENTS.

TWO TO 2 TO 15 CONDOMINIUM UNITS. SO IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US TO TAKE IT OFF THE REGISTRY.

IF THAT'S IT'S NOT ON THE REGISTRY, IT'S OR LET ME SAY THIS, IT'S EITHER IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE BASED ON ITS SURVEY. BASED ON THE SURVEY DESIGNATION, IT MUST BE A C OR D OR SOMETHING.

AND THAT'S THEN AS A RESULT OF THAT, IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

IT HAS TO BE AN A OR A B. IT HAS TO BE RATED CORRECT.

AND THAT'S JUST THE VISUAL SURVEY RATE OR THE STREET, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT THE STREET.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED NOW.

SO THERE'S I KNOW SHE DIDN'T WANT WHILE SHE WAS ALIVE, DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A HISTORIC LANDMARK FOR WHATEVER REASON.

BUT I GUESS WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AND TALK WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT.

YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON IT, BUT IT'S OR SOME BACKGROUND.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASSUMING IS THE SITUATION.

AND THAT'S HOW THAT, THAT I KNOW MY TIME IS UP, BUT MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES. BASED ON ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOW, THIS THIS PART OF THE PROCESS WAS WILL THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US IN THE FUTURE? WILL IT COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WILL IT COME BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION, WHERE WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND SAY, NO, NO, OUR COMMENT IS NO. YEAH. SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND YOU CAN LOOK UP WHAT THE HISTORICAL LIKE THE SURVEY WAS, AND YOU CAN SEE IF THE PROPERTY WAS IN A RATED AN, A, B, C, D. I DON'T THINK THAT GOES BEYOND THAT, BUT OR MAYBE EVEN D, BUT IF IT'S AN A OR A B, THEN IT WILL COME THROUGH THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION, WHICH WE WILL HEAR IT HERE AND WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THERE'LL BE A REPORT.

AND THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN.

SO BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING AND YOU'RE CONCERNED, I WOULD RECOMMEND STARTING TO ASK QUESTIONS.

CALL THE CITY, LOOK UP THAT SURVEY AND YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL YOUR COUNCIL PERSON.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PROBABLY EMAIL US TOO, I'M NOT SURE, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD.

CAN I, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? SURE IT IS. IT IS A C RATING BECAUSE I DID I DID LOOK IT UP.

I DID STOP OFF. IT'S A C RATED. IT'S A C RATED PROPERTY.

BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT CAN'T BE EXAMINED BY THIS COMMISSION.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THE CITY WEBSITE, ON OUR CITY WEBSITE THERE'S A HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT.

AND ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS, RIGHT UNDER THE HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, WHICH SERVES AS A FRAMEWORK INTO WHICH THE CITY'S CULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL RESOURCES MAY BE PLACED AND INTERPRETED FOR THE FUTURE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

THIS CONTEXT STATEMENT ALSO SERVES AS THE FOUNDATION FOR AND ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS SAYS THE REEVALUATION OF BUILDING RANKING, INCLUDING THE LARGER PERCENTAGE OF BUILDINGS CURRENTLY HOLDING A C RANKING.

SO TO ME THAT SAYS THAT JUST BECAUSE IT HAS A C RANKING, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY. YOU KNOW, I WAS TOLD THAT IT IT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THIS HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE I THINK IT MERITS SOME MORE DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT AND JUST SAY THAT SINCE THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

STAFF WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. AND CERTAINLY WHAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO ELECTED OR APPOINTED OFFICIALS.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU OFFLINE, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN COMING DOWN AND EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERN.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, IS THAT WE SHOULD AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR.

WE BRING IT UP WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU.

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OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD LOOKING HOUSE. YEAH, IT'S BEAUTIFUL INSIDE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL THE OOD APPOINTMENTS AND EVERYTHING.

IT'S ALL INTERIOR'S HISTORIC TOO. IT'S NOT JUST THE OUTSIDE.

THEY NEVER DID ANY OF THOSE MODERN. I THINK WE GOT THE MESSAGE FROM OUR LIAISON.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? OKAY. ANYBODY ONLINE? YES. THERE IS ONE PERSON ONLINE.

OKAY. BUT THEY HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T LEFT ANY COMMENTS.

THEY RAISED THEIR HAND. NO. OKAY. THEY HAVE NOT RAISED THEIR HAND.

SO IT INDICATES THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MAYBE RAISE THEIR HAND FOR COMMENT AT ANOTHER ITEM.

OKAY. SO THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE COMMENT WE GOT WAS FROM HER, THE WOMAN WHO JUST SPOKE.

OKAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT.

OKAY. ITEM I IS THE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. THE SECTION IS INTENDED TO ALLOW ALL OFFICIALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVEAL ANY DISCLOSURE OR EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS SET FORTH IN ITEM J.

STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER. MCCAULEY. DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? NO. COMMISSIONER GALASSI. I DO NOT. COMMISSIONER ROWE.

NO. COMMISSIONER LANG. NO. OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? I MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT WE'RE NOW IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

WHEN YOU DO THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, DO THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE WITNESSES UNDER OATH? WE HAVE, YES. WE HAVE. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION TO DO THAT HERE? YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING IT JUST TO BE SAFE.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHICH OF YOU TWO ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT.

WOULD ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY TODAY, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND TESTIMONY OR PRESENTATION? WHAT IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH ON THE MATTER? THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY, SO WE START OFF WITH THE STAFF REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SEAN SCULLY, PLANNING MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO TURN THE ITEM OVER TO SEAN O'ROURKE.

OR EXCUSE ME, ASSOCIATE PLANNER, WHO HAS PROCESSED THIS PROJECT AND HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT.

ALSO, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ARCHITECT, AND HER CONTRACTOR HERE, AVAILABLE TONIGHT AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE MICROPHONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE REPAIR AND REHABILITATION OF A LANDMARK PROPERTY AT 519 SOUTH CATALINA AVENUE.

A BRIEF OVERVIEW THE PROPERTY AT 519 SOUTH CATALINA WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1913.

IT WAS LISTED AS A POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE IN THE 1986 SURVEY, AND LATER DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL LANDMARK BY THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON MAY 4TH, 1994. THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING NOTE THAT THE HOME WAS BUILT IN THE CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WITH FEATURES THAT INCLUDE A PROMINENT CENTERED GABLED DORMER, EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, TRIANGULAR KNEE BRACES, AND A FULL WIDTH PORCH SUPPORTED BY ELEPHANTINE POSTS ON BRICK PIERS.

THE MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE ALTERATION, RESTORATION, DEMOLITION, REMOVAL, OR RELOCATION OF ANY EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT OR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT IS EITHER A CONTRIBUTING CHARACTERISTIC OF THE RESOURCE OR IS VISIBLE FROM ANY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A LIKE FOR LIKE REPLACEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE'S SIDING,

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EXCUSE ME. ON THE SIDES OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THE APPLICANT'S PLANS SHOW CASEMENT WINDOWS.

HOWEVER, AS NOTED ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, CONDITION NUMBER 13 WITHIN THE RESOLUTION STATES THAT, QUOTE, ALL NEW WINDOWS ARE TO BE LIKE FOR LIKE SLASH TO MATCH EXISTING IN TERMS OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN.

WOOD DOUBLE HUNG END QUOTE. THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES TO REPAIR AND RESTORE THE EXISTING BRICK CHIMNEY, BRICK FOUNDATION, FRONT PORCH, BRICK CLADDING, ROOF RAFTERS, RAFTER TAILS, EAVES, WOOD POSTS, COLUMN CAPS, BRACE, ROOF RAFTERS, CEMENT STAIRS, AND FRONT PORCH RAILINGS.

THE APPLICANT PLANS TO ADD NEW WINDOWS ON THE SIDES OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED PLANS, AND DISCUSSED ON A LATER SLIDE. ADDITIONALLY, AS NOTED WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS AN UNPERMITTED SHED AND AN UNPERMITTED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS CONDITIONED TO OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED PERMITS FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF THE EXISTING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, OR ADU, AND THE REMOVAL OF THE UNPERMITTED SHED STRUCTURE.

THE EXISTENCE OF THE ADU IS REGULATED BY STATE HOUSING LAW AND AS PROPOSED, IS NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

NOW, THESE PHOTOS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY SHOW THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

THESE PHOTOS, ALSO PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, SHOW THE REAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE GARAGE AND THE PREVIOUSLY UNPERMITTED LIVING SPACE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PLANS ON THE NEXT THREE SLIDES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND DEMONSTRATE THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

THESE UPDATED PLANS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT ARE INCLUDED AS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM.

THIS. EXCUSE ME. THIS SIDE SLIDE EXCUSE ME SHOWS THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT IS VISIBLE FROM SOUTH CATALINA AVENUE.

IT DETAILS THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WOULD BE REPLACED LIKE FOR LIKE INCLUDING WOOD SIDING, WINDOWS, WINDOW AND DOOR TRIMS, AND A NEW FRONT DOOR THAT WOULD BE CUSTOM MADE TO MATCH THE EXISTING FRONT DOOR.

THIS SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NORTH ELEVATION, AS NOTED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT AND SHOWN ON THIS AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDE.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES WINDOWS ALONG THE TWO SIDE ELEVATIONS OF THE MAIN HOUSE THAT WOULD BE MOVED SLIGHTLY, OR IN SOME CASES, REMOVED TO ALIGN WITH THE REMODELED INTERIOR SPACE.

THE ALTERED WINDOW LOCATIONS ON THE SIDE ELEVATIONS ARE ONLY PARTIALLY VISIBLE ON THE NORTH ELEVATION OF CATALINA AVENUE OR THE FRONT OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, AND ARE NOT CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT ALTERATION TO THE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS AS VIEWED FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AS NOTED ON THE SLIDE, THE APPLICANT THE APPLICANT'S PLANS EXCUSE ME, PROPOSE CASEMENT WINDOWS.

HOWEVER, CONDITION NUMBER 13 SPECIFIES THAT, QUOTE, ALL NEW WINDOWS ARE TO BE LIKE FOR LIKE SLASH TO MATCH EXISTING IN TERMS OF MATERIALS AND DESIGN. WOOD DOUBLE HUNG. END QUOTE.

THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE WEST ELEVATION AND THE REAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SAME CONDITIONS FOR REHABILITATION AND RESTORATION WOULD APPLY TO THE EXTERIOR OF THIS STRUCTURE.

THE MUNICIPAL CODE DETAILS THE CRITERIA FOR THE APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A LANDMARK.

THIS INCLUDES CONFORMANCE WITH PRESCRIPTIVE STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION, A REQUIREMENT THAT A PROPOSED PROJECT, NOT DETRIMENT, PARDON ME, DETRIMENTALLY ALTER, DESTROY OR ADVERSELY AFFECT ANY EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT OR EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE AND A PROPOSED PROJECT RETAIN THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS THAT MAKE THE RESOURCE SIGNIFICANT.

THE PRESCRIPTIVE STANDARDS REFER TO THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION OF A HISTORIC RESOURCE, AND THE DEFINITION IS INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE.

FOR EACH OF THE IDENTIFIED SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR FOR REHABILITATION, EXCUSE ME.

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THE PROPERTY WOULD CONTINUE TO REFLECT ALL OF THE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS THAT HAVE EXISTED, AND THE PROPOSED REHABILITATION AND REPAIRS WOULD RETAIN CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THE SECOND CRITERIA REQUIRES THAT A PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT, QUOTE EXCUSE ME.

PROPOSED PROJECT QUOTES WILL NOT DETRIMENTALLY ALTER, DESTROY, OR ADVERSELY AFFECT ANY EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT OR EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE.

END QUOTE. THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK AND THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITHIN SECTION THREE OF THE RESOLUTION THAT REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT USE LIKE FOR LIKE SIDING, WINDOWS AND OTHER MATERIALS WOULD ENSURE THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ANY EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT OR EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. THE THIRD CRITERIA REQUIRES THAT A PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD RETAIN THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS THAT MAKE THE RESOURCE SIGNIFICANT.

END QUOTE. THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS OF THE RESOURCE WOULD BE RETAINED AS THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE LANDMARK WOULD BE REFURBISHED OR REPLACED IN KIND.

THE GRANTING OF THE PROPOSED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WOULD PERMIT DETERIORATED EXTERIOR MATERIALS TO BE EITHER REPAIRED OR REPLACED WITH LIKE FOR LIKE MATERIALS AND DESIGN TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, OR CEQA, AS PROJECTS INVOLVING THE MAINTENANCE, REHABILITATION, RESTORATION, PRESERVATION OR RECONSTRUCTION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES ARE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, PROVIDED THAT THE ACTIVITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE HISTORIC TREATMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE CEQA EXEMPTION AND THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AS ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. SO WHICH WHICH OF THE WINDOWS IS BEING REMOVED ON THE NORTH ELEVATION? LET ME GO TO THAT SLIDE AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT.

THANK YOU. OF COURSE. NOW, DOMINGO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AT ANY POINT. SEE IF YOU COULD SEE MY MOUSE HERE.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE MOUSE THERE? COMMISSIONER.

OKAY, SO I'M REALLY TESTING MY EYESIGHT HERE, BUT SAME THESE TWO REAR WINDOWS.

IS THAT CORRECT? DOMINGO? THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS WINDOW HERE, THAT IS I WOULD SAY IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OR TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE. THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE IS TO THE LEFT OF THIS SLIDE.

SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MOVED FROM OR JUST ADDED.

I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER. NEW AS IN, THEY WEREN'T THERE BEFORE OR THEY WERE REMOVING SOMETHING. YEAH, WE DO HAVE A IT'S SHOWN ACTUALLY ON THE I WANT TO SAY THE FLOOR PLANS.

IT'LL SHOW EXISTING WINDOWS. SO MAYBE WE CAN GO GIVE US A SECOND.

WE CAN PULL UP THE PLAN SET AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT.

SURE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

AND GO TO THE EXISTING. OKAY. SO HERE'S THE EXISTING FIRST STORY FLOOR PLAN HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE BEDROOM ONE IS WHERE THOSE WINDOWS WOULD BE.

AM I RIGHT? I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY. YES.

LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HARD FOR ME TO SEE.

YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE. HOW MANY WINDOWS DO WE HAVE? ONE, TWO. GOING FROM THE EAST. THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO THE REAR.

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AND WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THAT ELEVATION NOW? IF YOU IF YOU GO TO THE PROPOSED YOU'LL SEE THE INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN.

THANK YOU. AND SEE IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP TO THE FRONT A LITTLE.

YEAH. ONE, TWO. THE ONE IN THE STAIRWELL GOES AWAY ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

ONE. TWO. THREE. FOUR. FIVE. LOOKS LIKE THE SAME NUMBER IS RETAINED.

SO SEVEN AND SEVEN. SO THEY'RE JUST MOVING THE WINDOWS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLAN.

THIS PICTURE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE WINDOWS THAT ARE EXISTING.

YEAH. WHICH IS THAT THE SIDE. YEAH. IT'S THE WHERE THE METERS ARE.

YEAH I CAN BRING THAT UP. YEAH. BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE WINDOWS WAS SMALLER AND IS NOW GOING TO BE BIGGER. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE AT ABOUT THE SAME SPOT. IS THAT CORRECT? SORRY. WAS THIS THE CORRECT SLIDE THAT YOU WERE.

YOU WERE JUST HOLDING UP THE PHOTOS? NO. THE NEXT ONE.

YEAH. THAT ONE. THIS ONE HERE. THE ONE ON THE LEFT.

YEAH. WHERE THE METERS ARE. THOSE ARE THE WINDOWS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

OKAY. AND SO IN REGARDS TO THE SIDING.

SO THE MAIN HOUSE WILL RETAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THE ORIGINAL SIDING AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE SOME SIDING WITH NEW WOOD SIDING, IS THAT CORRECT? AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? CORRECT. THAT'S THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF HAS APPLIED TO THE PROJECT.

AND THEN THE HARDIE SIDING IS JUST FOR THAT ADU IN THE BACK GARAGE.

IT'S NOT. WELL IS THAT HARDIE SIDING THAT'S ON THERE NOW.

BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE WHATEVER HAS TO BE REPLACED.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. YEAH.

IT'S WOOD AS WELL. SO IT'LL BE WOOD ON THE REAR STRUCTURE AS WELL.

OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK SOMEWHERE I SAW THAT IT SAID HARDY.

HARDY BOARD.

YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE UPDATED PLAN SUBMISSION, AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE WINDOW SCHEDULE. SO I THINK IN THE REPORT IT MEANT IT MENTIONED LIKE FOR, LIKE AND THE WINDOWS ARE DOUBLE HUNG.

AND SO I SEE THAT ON THE UPDATED SUBMISSION THEY CHANGED THE TWO FRONT WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO DOUBLE HUNG. BUT THEN IT APPEARS THAT ALL THE OTHER WINDOWS ARE CASEMENT WINDOWS.

THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. IT'S CONDITIONED THAT THEY'RE ALL DOUBLE HUNG AND ALL WOULD THE REPLACEMENT WINDOWS.

SO OKAY. BUT THAT'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE PLAN THAT THE ARCHITECT PROVIDED AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. OKAY. THEY JUST HAVEN'T UPDATED THE PLANS TO REFLECT THAT.

WELL, THEY UPDATED THE PLANS, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING, SO THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL TO DO THE CASEMENT WINDOWS ON THE SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS. SO WE'RE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THEY'RE WOOD AND DOUBLE HUNG ALL AROUND US.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOUR BODY TO DECIDE UPON, TO DECIDE IF WE'RE OKAY WITH THEIR PROPOSAL OR IS THAT TO WE'RE HEARING THEIR PROPOSAL OR YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE RESOLUTION WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE PLANS ARE CONSISTENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE FRONT ELEVATION.

BUT THE WINDOW TYPES ON THE SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS ARE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.

SO THERE'S A DISCREPANCY. SO OKAY, WE WE DO HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL MATERIALS AND THE DETAIL OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. SO IT'S UP FOR THE COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROWE. YEAH. QUESTION. GREAT PRESENTATION.

GOOD TO MEET YOU. HEY, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THAT SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE THAT HAD THE LIST OF THE REPLACEMENTS AND REFURBS?

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I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TEXT THERE. NOT THAT FAST.

I JUST WANT TO DRINK THIS IN HERE. LET'S SEE.

SURE. SO HOW MUCH OF THE BRICK FOUNDATION ARE YOU GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO LIKE? ARE WE LOSING? JUST CURIOUS. JUST THE BRICKS LOOK WONDERFUL.

I HOPE THEY'RE NOT ALL DESTROYED BRICKS. ARE A LOT OF THOSE GOING TO BE REPLACED? LIKE THE COLUMNS YOU SEE ON THE FRONT. YOU KNOW, THE FOUR COLUMNS GOING UP, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE LIKE RETAINED? I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT SAYS, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO RESTORE SOME OF THE BRICK FOUNDATIONS.

THEY WOULD BE SO THAT THOSE ARE TO BE REPAIRED.

YEAH. AND CURIOUS. YES. YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL IF THESE THESE BRICKS ARE CHIPPED UP OR BEAT UP.

THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL FROM HERE. BUT I THINK BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I LIKE IT SO FAR.

SO APPRECIATE THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. SECOND QUESTION.

SECOND QUESTION. OKAY. LET ME. CAN I JUST REMIND ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE ACTUAL APPLICATION IN FRONT OF US? BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE AN APPLICATION FROM THE APPLICANT IN THE PACKET.

YEAH. WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT WE BRING THAT TO THE BODY.

IT'S THE APPLICATION IS THE PLANS AND VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION.

WE'VE GONE TO A NEW APPLICATION THROUGH OUR PORTAL.

SO IT JUST HAS A DESCRIPTION OF, OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, BUT ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE PLAN SET.

OKAY. AND IF I MAY JUST ADD ONE THING, IT'S THAT WE'VE HAD IT'S BEEN AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WORKING BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT TEAM TO TRY TO GET TO A PROPOSAL THAT WE THOUGHT WAS COMPLIANT WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

OKAY. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO THIS WAS APPROVED AS A LANDMARK IN 1994, AND I'M ASSUMING BASED ON OUR PRIOR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THAT IT PROBABLY WAS NOT ANY POST LANDMARK INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY. PROBABLY NOT. NO. AND IS THIS COMING THROUGH US WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT BE OPPOSED? CONCLUSION AND INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE PERMIT ISSUED. THERE'LL BE MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS. OKAY.

YES. MORE QUESTIONS. OH I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE WINDOWS.

SO HOW MUCH OF THAT SIDE VIEW IS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET? YOU KNOW, I WENT OUT THERE TODAY JUST TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND YOU CAN FROM FROM THE SIDEWALK, YOU CAN SEE THE, AS FAR BACK AS THE TWO STORY PORTION OF THE OF THE MAIN RESIDENCE. AND BEYOND THAT, YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

YOU CAN'T SEE AT ALL. YOU CAN SEE THE TRIMS AND THE MOLDING SURROUNDING THE WINDOWS, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE WINDOWS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HOUSE. YEAH. RIGHT THERE.

YEAH, IT'S REALLY CLOSE. CURIOUS WHAT THE VIEW FROM THE ROAD WAS.

AND CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THIS HOUSE IS NOT DOES NOT HAVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS POSTED. IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IS UP TO DATE.

YEAH. IT DOES NOT HAVE A MILLS ACT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO YOU KNOW WHY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY ANY LANDMARK PROPERTY WOULDN'T HAVE ONE.

BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT, RIGHT? BUT THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE PROBABLY REALLY LOW TO BEGIN WITH.

THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON.

NOW, CURRENTLY THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THE PROPERTY OWNER MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.

CERTAINLY. WELL, JUST LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE VIEW THAT AT LEAST THIS FIRST WINDOW IS DEFINITELY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. AND LET'S SEE, I THINK THAT'S PROPOSED CASE PROPOSED CASEMENT.

AND THOSE CASEMENT WINDOWS LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THAN A DOUBLE HUNG WOOD WINDOW.

I THINK THE TREES IN THE WAY. YEAH. RIGHT HERE.

OH. HOLD ON. SO DO YOU HAVE THAT SLIDE WITH THE MATERIAL? THE PICTURE OF THE MATERIALS? YES. IF IT'S HANDY, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

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AND SO, I MEAN, IS THAT, LIKE, THE NEIGHBOR CAN CUT THAT DOWN AT ANY POINT.

SO YOU WILL HAVE A SIDE VIEW. YEAH. YOU COULD IN THE FUTURE IF SOMEBODY WERE TO REMOVE THAT BUSH.

I THINK IT'S ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. THE BUSH.

RIGHT. CAN I MOVE TO TAKING TESTIMONY FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? ANYBODY STILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT AGENT.

GOOD EVENING. HI. MY NAME IS DOMINGO. I'M THE ARCHITECT WHO'S WORKING WITH THE NEW HOMEOWNER, PAMELA SADLER. ON REMODELING AND REPAIRING THIS HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. FIRST OF ALL. CAN YOU SPEAK UP LOUDER OR STANDING NEXT TO THE MIC? I APOLOGIZE HERE, I DIDN'T SEE IT. OKAY ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS DOMINGO TOGLIA.

I'M THE ARCHITECT WHO'S WORKING WITH THE NEW HOMEOWNER, PAMELA SADLER, IN REMODELING AND REPAIRING HER HOME.

SHE PURCHASED A HOME BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND ABOUT TEN MONTHS AGO.

IT'S A GEM OF A HOME. SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.

THAT'S WHY SHE BOUGHT IT. HOWEVER, ONCE SHE GOT INTO IT, SHE FOUND OUT THAT IT'S IN COMPLETE DISREPAIR.

SO OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO REPAIR IT AND BRING IT AND KEEP ITS CHARACTER AND BRING IT BACK TO A MORE CONTEMPORARY INTERIOR SO HER FAMILY CAN LIVE IN THERE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WELL, SHAWN'S PRESENTATION COVERED EVERYTHING, RIGHT? BUT. SO NOW I WANT TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE WINDOWS, THE DOUBLE HUNG VERSUS THE CASEMENT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH MAKING THEM ALL DOUBLE HUNG, WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE TWO FRONT BEDROOMS, THE EGRESS SIZE FOR THE WINDOWS DO NOT WORK.

IF WE MAKE THEM DOUBLE HUNG, WE CAN MAKE NEW DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS FOR EGRESS UP ON THE SIDE OF EACH BEDROOM.

HOWEVER, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY WIDER WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE TRY TO KEEP SIMILAR PROPORTIONS TO WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE.

AND IN LIEU OF PROVIDING A DOUBLE HUNG WINDOW, WE PROVIDE A CASEMENT WINDOW FOR EGRESS PURPOSES.

WHAT ELSE? COMMISSIONER GALASSI YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SIDE WINDOWS, CORRECT? THAT'S AN ADDITION THAT WAS DONE, I BELIEVE, BACK IN THE 60S, A ONE STORY ADDITION.

THOSE WINDOWS WERE ALUMINUM WINDOWS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO LOCATE THE WINDOWS IN A LOGICAL WAY SO THAT ROOM COULD BE USED AS A BEDROOM.

AND THEN THE NEWER WINDOW, THE BIGGER WINDOW THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF THOSE WINDOWS IS A WINDOW THAT IS GOING TO BE BELOW A NEW TUB.

THEREFORE IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE ONE WINDOW UP ON TOP.

SO THAT'S EXPLANATION ABOUT THE WINDOWS. NOW, ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, AND IT'S A REQUEST AND I KNOW THAT THAT YOU HAVE THE YOU CAN UPDATE HIS RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU SEE IT, THAT IT MAKES SENSE.

SO HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO HELP US IF YOU CAN.

AND IF NOT IT'S OKAY. RIGHT. BUT OUR, OUR REQUEST IS THAT WE WILL MAKE THE FRONT WINDOWS WOOD TO MATCH THE EXISTING LIKE FOR LIKE. WE'RE TRYING TO EITHER REPAIR THEM OR REPLACE THEM WITH A NEW WINDOW.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE THE SIDE WINDOWS, WE CAN KEEP THEM DOUBLE HUNG WHEREVER THE EGRESS ISN'T REQUIRED.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE HIM TO BE A WINDOW LIKE THAT WITH AN ALUMINUM POWDER COATED CLAD IN THE EXTERIOR.

AND WHY WE THINK THAT IT WILL HOLD UP BETTER DURING THE YEARS WOOD WINDOW WOULD FALL INTO DISREPAIR, AND IT WOULD BE A MEANS MAINTENANCE ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE LIFETIME OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT'S OUR REQUEST. FURTHERMORE, I BELIEVE THAT THE.

INTERIOR STANDARDS OF OF THE SECRETARIES OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION ALLOWS FOR THAT.

IN SECTION NUMBER SIX, IT SAYS THAT NEW FEATURES SHALL MATCH THE OLD IN DESIGN, COLOR, TEXTURE, WHEREVER, WHEREVER POSSIBLE. SO I THINK THAT YOU COULD PERHAPS REASONABLY SAY THAT WE COULD FIND A WINDOW THAT MATCHES THE WHAT'S EXISTING. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THIS PROXIMITY TO THE BEACH AND MAINTENANCE AND FUTURE UPKEEP, IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HAVE THOSE CLAD WITH ALUMINUM.

AND WE COULD MAKE A CONDITION THAT MR. SCULLY WOULD REVIEW THE WINDOW, THE WINDOW TYPE FOR SIZE AND FITNESS,

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SO THE WOOD IS IN THE INSIDE, ISN'T IT? YES. CORRECT, CORRECT.

SO THAT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT THAN A DOUBLE HUNG WINDOW. AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S PROBABLY WINDOWS ON THIS HOUSE THAT ARE PROBABLY ORIGINAL TO THE 1912 STRUCTURE THAT HAVE HELD UP FAIRLY WELL OVER THE YEARS. SO MUCH SO THAT SOME MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING BACK TO OLD WINDOW DESIGN, BUT, SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE ALL WINDOWS SUPPOSED TO BE EGRESS OR JUST CERTAIN WINDOWS ARE.

I. OKAY, OKAY. SO ONLY THE WINDOWS THAT ARE IN A BEDROOM THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DOOR TO THE EXTERIOR.

OKAY. OKAY, AND THEN BACK TO THE WINDOWS. SO THEY LOOK OKAY FROM MAYBE 20FT AWAY.

BUT A LOT OF THOSE A LOT OF THEM ARE, IN DISREPAIR WITH RATS AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED, I BELIEVE. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY HELD OVER TIME.

YES. WINDOWS ARE OKAY. CORRECT. AND ALSO JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OLDER WINDOWS WERE MADE WITH OLD GROWTH FORESTS.

SO THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A LOT DENSER AND THEY HOLD A LOT BETTER.

NEWER WINDOWS, IF WE MAKE THEM OUT OF WOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT AS DENSE AS THEY USED TO BE, THEREFORE THEY'RE MORE POROUS. THEREFORE, IN MY OPINION, IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THE LONGEVITY OF THE BUILDING TO HAVE A WINDOW CLAD.

I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S FROM A DISTANCE FROM THE STREET OR FROM FIVE FEET AWAY.

THE LOOK OF THE WINDOW THE SASH AND THE BUTTONS WILL LOOK THE SAME AS A WOOD WINDOW.

NOT FOR THE FRONT WINDOWS WITH THE CRISS CROSS.

HOWEVER, FOR THE OTHER WINDOWS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TRUE.

AND A CASEMENT WINDOW IS ALSO MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE THAN A DOUBLE HUNG.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY ARE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? STAFF, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION OR.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A, IT WAS NOT EASY. WE FELT WE WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE AND STAY WITH THE EXISTING MATERIALS AND DESIGN THROUGHOUT. AS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT ALTERATION IF WE CAN'T VIEW IT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY IN STAFF'S OPINION.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME WINDOWS THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN OR THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN AND MATERIALS, BUT THEN YOU KNOW THAT LEADS TO A CONSISTENCY ISSUE IN STAFF'S OPINION, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALTERING WINDOW TYPES AND THE INTEGRITY JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT VISIBLE IS DIMINISHED THIS THAT STAFF'S OPINION.

SO IT WAS STAFF'S OPINION THAT ALL THE WINDOWS BE, YOU KNOW, BE EITHER RESTORED, REPAIRED OR IF REPLACED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED. THEY WOULD BE WITH OF THE SAME TYPE THAT ARE ON THE FRONT ELEVATION.

UP ON THAT GABLE AND OUR EXISTING NOW. SO THE WOOD DOUBLE HUNG.

SO THAT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WHAT WAS THAT LAST PART YOU SAID ABOUT THE WOOD DOUBLE HUNG.

THE, SO WE, SO STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT TO MAINTAIN THE CONSISTENCY OF THE REPLACEMENT WINDOWS WITH THE EXISTING WINDOWS THAT ARE REPAIRED AND RESTORED.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ALTERNATIVE WINDOW TYPES AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW THE PROJECT IS CONDITIONED.

OKAY. AND THEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR PLANS AGAIN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ONLY HAVE TWO DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS ON YOUR NEW SET THAT ARE YOU REPLACING? SO YOU'RE KEEPING THE OLD ONES AND IS THAT, OR DID I READ THAT WRONG? NO, NO. THE OPE IS TO KEEP OR TO REBUILD THE FRONT WINDOWS OR REPAIR THEM AND THEN.

HAVE ALL NEW WINDOWS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. NOW MY, WHAT WE, BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS I THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE EVERY WINDOW A DOUBLE HUNG WINDOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BEDROOM WINDOW.

AND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE HUNG AS WELL, WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIZE FOR EGRESS.

AND THEN ALSO BACK TO. SO IN MY PERFECT WORLD I WILL HAVE ALL THE WINDOWS BE ALUMINUM CLAD.

WHY? BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL LAST LONGER. SO AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A HOUSE THAT WILL LAST 20 YEARS OR WILL FALL, OR WILL BEGIN TO SHOW SIGNS OF DETERIORATION WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF WINDOWS, THIS WOULD LAST 20 YEARS.

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BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ALUMINUM ON THE EXTERIOR AS WELL.

CORRECT. AND WHAT, IF YOU DECIDE THAT, IF THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD BRING A SAMPLE OF THE WINDOW AND MAYBE I CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH IT AND SHOW YOU, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, HERE'S WHAT THE SIDE IS. AND I CAN COMPARE IT TO THE EXISTING WINDOW.

SO YOU SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. YEAH.

I PERSONALLY AM FAMILIAR WITH ALUMINUM WINDOWS, AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SEE.

WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT AN OLD HOME, I ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE WINDOWS AS PART OF THE TOTAL, YOU KNOW, APPEAL OF THE OLDER HOME. AND I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS ON THIS HOME. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE A PROJECT COME TO US WHERE SOMEONE'S NOT ASKING TO TEAR IT DOWN, INSTEAD, THEY WANT TO REHABILITATE IT. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WOULD REALLY TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL IS THOSE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS. AT LEAST WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM THE SIDE VIEW.

I ALSO FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, REVISITING WOOD WINDOWS IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN PRESSED ON US AS CONSUMERS.

AND I THINK THAT THEY DO DEGRADE THE ESTHETIC OF THE STRUCTURE UNLESS YOU GO FOR REALLY EXPENSIVE WINDOWS.

AND SO THERE IS A ELEMENT OF YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WE'RE TOLD THAT IT'S MORE DURABLE, BUT I'M, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE JUST AS I ACTUALLY PUT DOUBLE HUNG WOOD WINDOWS ON MY HOME THAT WAS BUILT THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE ESTHETIC.

AND YOU KNOW, THEY WERE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DO LAST AND AGAIN, LIKE, THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1912 AND THE WINDOWS ARE STILL THERE.

AND I KNOW THEY NEED TO BE REPAIRED, BUT THEY DO LAST.

TRUE. SO THAT'S TRUE. POINT WELL MADE AND POINT WELL TAKEN.

I THINK FROM MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF ALUMINUM WINDOWS, ALUMINUM WOOD WINDOWS.

THIS CERTAIN MANUFACTURER IS SIERRA PACIFIC WINDOWS.

THEY ARE WHAT, THEY'RE ONE OF THE BETTER ONES.

AND AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE, ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT.

AND IF WE TALK ABOUT PRICE FOR THE SIERRA PACIFIC WINDOWS, THE WOOD WINDOWS WITHOUT ALUMINUM ARE ACTUALLY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN ALUMINUM CLAD WINDOWS. SO WE'RE NOT MAKING A PITCH FOR SAVING MONEY.

I'M JUST MAKING A PITCH FOR PRESERVING SOMETHING, THAT'S ALL.

BUT I PUT IT TO YOU, AND IT'S FOR YOU TO DECIDE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU I WANT THIS, BUT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS MISS SATTLER GOING TO BE ADDRESSING US? PARDON? IS MISS SATTLER GOING TO BE ADDRESSING US? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, I'M PAMELA SATTLER, THE NEW OWNER OF THIS BEAUTY.

SO MY QUESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY MORE TOWARDS WHAT'S GOING TO END UP HAPPENING WITH THIS PROPERTY.

SO WE'VE HEARD THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO SEEK ONE? YEAH, AND I HAVE READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WHAT I READ, IT WAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING OR WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT DONE.

OKAY. DO WE NEED THAT IN OUR RESOLUTION TO PUT THAT IN THERE, THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW WHETHER THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE NILS OUT? IT COULD BE ADDED. OKAY. CERTAINLY. AND THE SECOND THING HOW HOW WELL ARE YOU WITH THE NEIGHBORS? THE NEIGHBORS? YEAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO HISTORIC LANDMARK PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES OF YOU.

AND SO YOU HAVE A CLUSTER OF A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, PLUS YOU HAVE ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN EXPAND IT, SO IF YOU.

THE NEIGHBOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE I'VE TALKED WITH THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES AND HE'S JUST SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT PLEASE GET THIS PROJECT GOING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, THE NEGLIGENCE AND HAS BEEN REALLY WEIGHING ON HIM.

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YEAH, YEAH. AND THEY ALSO ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE MAKE THIS A LANDMARK PROPERTY. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO BEING PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH THE OTHER LANDMARK PROPERTIES? OH, I THOUGHT IT ALREADY WAS. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE HAVE SOMETHING ON CATALINA, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LOCATION.

HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OWN HOME BEING A LANDMARK PROPERTY.

OH, I SEE, SO IT'S A GROUPING OF PROPERTIES TOGETHER THAT FORM A DISTRICT WHICH ON THAT STREET WOULD BE LOVELY.

YEAH. IT REALLY WOULD DEFINITELY. BUT IT DOES REQUIRE YOUR WRITTEN CONSENT.

SO ULTIMATELY, IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH GOING THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT, I THINK YOU WOULD.

I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER SIGNING A WRITTEN CONSENT, SO THAT CAN BE PART OF THE RECORD, AND WE CAN GO TO THE OTHER TWO OWNERS AS WELL.

YEAH. WHERE DO I FIND THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THAT IS? IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. I BELIEVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS MATERIALS ON IT.

YEAH. WE CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION. DISTRICT.

THAT'S THE. YEAH. YES. WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. YEAH.

YOU WOULD GET MORE TIME WITH US, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU VERY MUCH WANT IS MORE TIME WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

BUT IT DOESN'T, AS FAR AS WE WERE TOLD, DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING.

THE ANSWER IS NO. I'M NOT JOKING. I'M NOT JOKING.

OKAY. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT. BUT IT HAS BEEN SEVEN MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS OF JUST WAITING.

SO. YEAH, WELL, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ADD ANY RESTRICTIONS, MORE RESTRICTIONS TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN GOING THROUGH FOR THIS LANDMARK.

I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LOVELY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT IDEA.

OKAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP YOUR, IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP THROUGH YOUR RENOVATION. IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROCESS. IF YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH BUILDS AND RENOVATIONS ALSO GO THROUGH A LONG PROCESS, SO. AND HAVE THEY TOLD YOU IF WE APPROVE IT TODAY, HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION? NO, INFORM ME. WHAT? NO. DO YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH IN YOUR ARCHITECTURE, PROBABLY. YOU DON'T KNOW EITHER.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.

OKAY. THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE WHO STOOD UP WHEN WE TOOK THE OATH.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING NOW OR. IF YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

BUT IF YOU DO, YOU NEED TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THAT'S STAFF APPLICANT.

ARE THERE ANYBODY, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION WITH REGARD TO THIS PROJECT? OKAY. NOBODY IN PERSON, ANYBODY ONLINE. THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE.

AND THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS. OKAY. SO IT SAYS CONSIDER THE ACTION.

SO I GUESS THIS IS OUR DELIBERATION POINT OF VIEW.

COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT.

THE DETAIL THAT THE HOMEOWNER HAS GONE INTO THAT'S MADE THIS MUCH MORE INFORMATIVE COMING INTO THIS BY GETTING THESE MATERIALS BEFOREHAND, AND I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOME AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

I'M OKAY WITH THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE WOOD DEBATE ON THAT, BUT I THINK FOR CONSISTENCY AND TIME LINE OF, YOU KNOW, OWNING THE HOUSE, I WOULD WANT THE ALUMINUM.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, THE WINDOWS IN THE BACK PROBABLY ARE MINIMALLY VISIBLE TO FROM THE STREET, IT SEEMS. AND I DO AGREE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN A PRETTY NEGLIGENT PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SO I WOULD. LIKE TO SEE THEM PROGRESS. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GALASSI. YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? THIS IS A FABULOUS HOUSE. IT'S FABULOUS. AND SHE'S ALREADY.

THANK YOU FOR UNDERGOING THIS PROCESS. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT WORKS SLOWLY SOMETIMES.

IT DRIVES ME CRAZY, TOO. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING THE TIME, THE MONTHS, THE YEAR, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO TO GET THIS DONE.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY, YOU KNOW PURSUING THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH THE UPKEEP OF YOUR HOME.

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AND THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE MILLS ACT WAS CREATED FOR, TO ASSIST THE HOMEOWNERS IN BEING ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CONTINUAL REPAIRS THAT A HOME OF THIS AGE NEEDS AND DESERVES.

AND BECAUSE OF THIS, I, AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SERVED ON THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION BEFORE I WAS WITH PUBLIC AMENITIES.

I SERVED FOR THREE YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE CONSISTENCY WITH, WITH OUR ORDINANCES AND WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BEGIN TO SET PRECEDENTS.

BECAUSE THAT KIND OF OPENS A, YOU KNOW, A BIG PANDORA'S BOX.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR NEEDS. HOWEVER, I THINK IF WE WANT TO BE TRUE TO WHAT THIS COMMISSION'S WORK IS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT PRESERVATION OF HOMES LIKE THIS IS ALL ABOUT THEN I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THAT OUR STAFF HAS PRESENTED THE RESOLUTION.

COMMISSIONER ROWE. YEAH. BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. I APPRECIATE THAT BEING A REAL ESTATE DABBLER.

I THINK THAT THE ARCHITECTS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALUMINUM WINDOWS ARE SUFFICIENT.

I LIKE THEM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO LOVE TO SEE THAT DONE.

BUT THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LANG.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER GALASSI'S COMMENTS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS HOME REPAIRED.

AND I DRIVE BY THIS STRETCH OF CATALINA ALL THE TIME AND ADMIRE THESE HOMES.

I GREW UP IN A 1920S HOME IN A HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING SPECIAL TO SEE A CLUSTER OF HISTORICALLY ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOMES TOGETHER. IT REALLY MAKES, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN JUST 1 OR 2.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU PURSUE THAT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THIS PROJECT. I WILL ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, THOUGH, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT DOES MENTION THAT WE MAKE IN THE RESOLUTION MENTIONS, WE MAKE FINDINGS.

I WAS READING THROUGH IT AND I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE FINDINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE WERE.

SO AM I MISSING SOMETHING? WE CAN PULL UP THE RESOLUTION.

I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF FINDINGS THAT THOSE ARE CONDITIONS, BUT THERE'S THERE'S FINDINGS.

LET'S SEE. PULL THAT UP. ONE MOMENT STARTED. SECTION 2 WAS WHERE.

THAT MAKES A REFERENCE. TO SHARE WITH ME. MIGHT SAY RESOLVES THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION HEREBY RESOLVES.

BUT LET'S SEE. HEREBY. FIND. OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT THERE.

SO GO. GO UP TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE.

SECTION 1. YEAH. NOW, THEREFORE, THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DOES HEREBY FIND AS FOLLOWS. AND THOSE ARE YOUR FINDINGS.

SECTION 1. SECTION 2. OKAY. OKAY. SO ACCORDING TO THE, WHAT THE PROCEDURES THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW, THE NEXT STEP IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR. THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE.

OKAY. SO CAN WE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE ON STEP FIVE, WHICH IS, AS I'M HEARING IT TODAY, WE HAVE TWO PROPOSALS IN FRONT OF US.

ONE IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS PROPOSED BY STAFF.

AND THE SECOND IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, BUT ADD IN LANGUAGE WITH REGARDS TO THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS.

AND I THINK WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE WANT ALUMINUM WINDOWS FIRST AND THEN ADOPT THE WHOLE THING.

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I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROWE HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED HIS PREFERENCE ON IT, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS A PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? OKAY. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING. I THINK I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THAT.

OKAY. SO WHY DON'T WE VOTE ALUMINUM VERSUS I THINK YOU CALL THEM DOUBLE HUNG WOODEN.

YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED TOO.

OKAY, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ALUMINUM SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. NO. NO. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WITH REGARDS TO THE WINDOWS.

AND WE NEED SOMEBODY TO PROPOSE IT. AND YOU'RE THE NORMAL PERSON TO PROPOSE IT.

SO DO YOUR MAGIC. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE CEQA EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR REHABILITATION, REPAIR, REMOVAL OF UNPERMITTED SHED AND TENANT IMPROVEMENTS OF A LANDMARK PROPERTY AT 519 SOUTH CATALINA AVENUE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 4, TITLE 10 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY.

ALTHOUGH, WE SHOULD DO A ROLL CALL ON THESE, I GUESS.

COMMISSIONER MAROKO. AYE. COMMISSIONER LANG. AYE.

COMMISSIONER ROWE. AYE. COMMISSIONER GALASSI.

AYE. COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY. AYE. OKAY, SO THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE HOUSE.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM K ON THE CALENDAR.

WE HAVE NOTHING CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS AGENDA.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM L. AND WE HAVE THREE ITEMS OVER THERE.

[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

THERE USUALLY IS A PROCEDURE THAT'S THROWN INTO THESE MEETINGS, SO I WILL.

I DON'T SEE IT HERE, BUT I'LL JUST DO IT BY MEMORY.

AND HOPEFULLY I'LL DO IT RIGHT. IS THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR.

CAN WE CAN WE GO THROUGH WHAT? WHO HOLDS THE CURRENT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR? SO IT'S SURE IT'S YOU FOR VICE CHAIR. RIGHT. I'M THE VICE CHAIR AND.

YOUSUFZAI IS THE CHAIR. OKAY. AND YOU HOLD THESE SEATS FOR A YEAR, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW. OH, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR. THANK YOU. FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. SO I DON'T I BELIEVE THEY PASSED YESTERDAY THE RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THE STATUTES AND YEAH, THE ORDINANCES. SO IT'S GOT TO HAVE A SECOND READING.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL COME BACK NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND THEN IT'S 30 DAYS AFTER THE SECOND READING WHERE IT BECOMES OFFICIAL.

RIGHT. SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE'RE STILL UNDER THE OLD RULES, BUT IT WILL BE LIKELY CHANGED TO IT DOESN'T CHANGE MUCH OTHER THAN WHAT WE DO INTERNALLY AS FAR AS OUR COMMITTEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? HEARING NONE, I WILL VOLUNTEER.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THE PLAN A YEAR AGO WAS I WOULD NOMINATE RON AS THE CHAIR.

BEING PROMOTED. I THINK YOU'VE JUST, YOU'VE. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.

DID YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUSUFZAI SAY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO? I KNOW HE KIND OF SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO BE HERE.

THERE WAS NO FEEDBACK EITHER WAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ARE WE TALKING FOR CHAIR? CHAIR. CHAIR. OKAY.

SO WE'LL CLOSE. WELL, I'LL NOMINATE COMMISSIONER GALASSI.

OKAY. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? THANK YOU. PRESIDENT IN A YEAR.

THEN I WILL ACTUALLY WITHDRAW MINE, BECAUSE YOU WERE LIKE THE PERSON THAT I THINK.

IT WAS FOR VICE CHAIR. OH, FOR VICE CHAIR. OKAY.

OKAY. YEAH. DID I SAY VICE CHAIR? I'M SORRY. DID I JUST SAY CHAIR? I'M SORRY. NO, I. WE WOULD LOVE RON TO BE CHAIR.

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GALASSI TO BE VICE CHAIR. I'M SORRY IF I MISSPOKE.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? I THINK THEY'RE LOCKED IN.

OKAY, LET'S CALL IT A DAY. SO, I CAN DO IT BY ACCLAMATION.

OR I CAN DO IT BY ROLL CALL. WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MAROKO.

AYE. COMMISSIONER LANG. YES. COMMISSIONER ROWE.

YES. COMMISSIONER GALASSI. YES. COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY.

AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU BECAUSE I TOLD YOU WHEN YOU FIRST INTERVIEWED FOR PRESERVATION, I WANTED TO TAKE YOU ON TO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, BUT THEY FOUND A REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR YOU.

SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE STILL HERE WORKING ON THIS.

OKAY, NOW WE MOVE UP TO DIRECTOR ORDER. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A PROPOSED WALK OF HISTORY TIMELINE SIGNS PROJECT AT DOMINGUEZ PARK. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.

SO I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

IS THERE A SLIDE SHOW OR SOMETHING? YEAH. OKAY.

JUST ONE MOMENT. LOADING. OH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT THE LONG AWAITED DOMINGUEZ PARK WALK OF HISTORY TIMELINE SIGNS.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A REALLY BRIEF HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT AND KIND OF HOW IT WAS STARTED, WHERE IT ENDED UP. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL FOR DELIBERATING.

SO STARTING OR ACTUALLY ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022, THE FORMER HISTORICAL COMMISSION CONSIDERED A RECOMMENDATION BY ITS PATH OF HISTORY SUBCOMMITTEE. SO THERE WAS AN ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE AT THE TIME, AND THAT SUBCOMMITTEE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE INSTALLATION OF FACTUAL TIMELINE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE WALKING PATHS AT DOMINGUEZ PARK.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, IT'S AN AERIAL PHOTO OF DOMINGUEZ PARK.

IT IS AN OLDER PHOTO, SO BEAR WITH ME. THE PLAYGROUND.

THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE UPDATED PLAYGROUND AREA, SO.

BUT YOU CAN AT LEAST SEE THE MAIN WALKING PATHWAYS THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

AND SO THE INTENT OF THE PROPOSAL WAS TO INSTALL HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT TIMELINE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE WALKING PATH.

SO AS PEOPLE ARE WALKING THROUGH THE PARK, THEY CAN SEE SIGNS THAT HAVE SOME SORT OF INFORMATION THAT SHARE A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT ITEM IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY. SO AT THE TIME, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION DID APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND REFERRED IT TO THE FORMER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.

AND SO JUST TO KIND OF GET A BASIS FOR WHAT WAS CONSIDERED AND RECOMMENDED.

THIS IS A MOCK UP OF THE SIGN THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE PRESENTED TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AND THEN ON THE LEFT WERE EXAMPLES OF HISTORICAL ITEMS THAT COULD BE LISTED ON THE SIGNS.

AND SO THESE WERE PURELY JUST PROVIDED AS KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THIS.

THIS WAS NOT FORMALIZED IN ANY WAY, BUT REALLY JUST TO ALLOW BOTH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE AND WHAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.

SO MOVING FORWARD, ON MAY 10TH, 2023, THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, OR FORMER, EXCUSE ME, PARKS AND REC COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE REFERRAL AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL.

AND SO THIS WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

SO TO THE RIGHT WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL SIGN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE PATH OF HISTORY SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AND REALLY THE MAIN DIFFERENCE HERE IS IT'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER IN SIZE.

AND THEN IT ADDED A POTENTIAL OR THE CONCEPT OF, OF ADDING A QR CODE, WHICH COULD BE LINKED TO A WEB PAGE THAT HAD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF SOMEONE WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHATEVER THE SIGN DISCUSSED.

AND SO THIS WAS SHARED WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WHEN THEY DELIBERATED ON THIS IDEA.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE COMMISSION, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED IN FAVOR OF REFERRING THIS BACK TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AFTER THEIR DISCUSSION, THEY FELT THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY WANTED TO GET FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION IN ORDER TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE FULL CONCEPT ITSELF. AND SO THEY REFERRED IT BACK TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION WITH SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS,

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SO JUST JUST KIND OF HIGH LEVEL THINKING HOW MANY SIGNS WOULD THIS PROGRAM INCLUDE? WHERE WOULD THE SIGNS BE INSTALLED? WOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TEN FEET ON THE WALKING PATH? WOULD IT BE EVERY FIVE FEET? JUST KIND OF A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THEY WOULD BE INSTALLED.

IN FREQUENCY, BUT THEN ALSO WHICH WALKING PATHS? THERE ARE SEVERAL WALKING PATHS THROUGH THE PARK. WOULD IT BE THE MAIN ONE? WOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGHOUT WHAT WOULD THE SIGNS LOOK LIKE? OBVIOUSLY THEY DID RECEIVE THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS, BUT I THINK THEY WERE HOPING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE. THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE ON THEM.

WOULD IT SIMPLY JUST BE THE TITLES OF THE HISTORICAL ITEM, OR WOULD IT HAVE SOME HISTORICAL INFORMATION ON IT? WHAT WILL THE PROJECT COST BE, AND WHAT WILL THE CITY NEED TO UTILIZE ITS OWN FUNDS FOR IT.

I THINK THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FROM THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME WAS DOES THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FUND RAISE TO FUND THE PROJECT? AND SO THESE WERE JUST THE QUESTIONS THAT AROSE FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION THAT WERE REFERRED BACK TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AS PART OF THAT VOTE, WE DID HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHO VOTED IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT ALTOGETHER.

THEY JUST BELIEVED THERE WAS OTHER TIMES OR HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION, THE CITY, EXCUSE ME, SHOULD BE CONSIDERING INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THIS PROJECT.

AND SO THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, THEY JUST FELT THERE WAS OTHER ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION ON.

SO FAST FORWARD TO FEBRUARY 14TH, 2024. AT THAT TIME, THE FORMER HISTORICAL COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THE REFERRAL BACK FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, AND AT THAT TIME THE COMMISSION DECIDED NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE ITEM.

THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY DENY MOVING FORWARD WITH IT, BUT THEY, AT THAT TIME, JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME.

AND SO FOR TONIGHT, WE ARE HERE AT A REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER MAROKO, AND A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION, TO RE-AGENDIZE THIS ITEM FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHETHER WE SHOULD RESUME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS, AND IF SO, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN SUPPLEMENT THE BACKGROUND IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS LIKE FOR.

CAN YOU ANSWER THEM NOW? I DON'T KNOW. SO QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS, WAS THERE EVER LIKE A BUDGET PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS, OR? SO I PROBABLY SHOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON IT THEN, BECAUSE THIS CAME OUT OF A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS IN THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY WAS ACTUALLY THE CHAIR OF THE RECS AND PARKS.

SO DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD THE MUSEUMS AND HERITAGE SQUARE CLOSED.

AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO BRING OUTSIDE A LOT OF THE MUSEUM STUFF SO THAT THE KIDS THAT COME BY TO GO DO THEIR THIRD GRADE PROJECTS, OR PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE MUSEUM AND IT'S CLOSED, WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AT LEAST GET SOME HISTORICAL INFORMATION.

AND SO THAT WAS THE INITIAL THING BEHIND IT. IF YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES, YEAH. THAT ONE. MY WRITING IS NOT THE BEST. THIS IS MY WRITING ON THE SLIDE.

AND WE WERE ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER A MOCK UP SO THAT.

AND THIS WAS DESIGNED IN A WAY TO KEEP THE COSTS DOWN BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE SIGN SHOP DESIGN THE SIGNS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER.

AND I WAS TOLD IT HAS TO BE TWO FEET BY THREE FEET IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE COST DOWN.

THEY COULDN'T DO THE CUSTOM DESIGN WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WE HAVE, LIKE WALKING AROUND WITH THE DOLPHINS AND STUFF.

WE CHOSE THE POST THAT ARE. IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE STOP SIGN, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY'RE UP THERE.

THE ORIGINAL COST ESTIMATE THAT WE RECEIVED WAS 2 TO $300.

BY THE TIME IT MADE IT TO THE PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION, RECS AND PARKS COMMISSION, IT HAD GONE UP TO $500, WHICH I ASSUME INCLUDED LABOR COSTS. YOU DO HAVE.

IS THAT PER POST, PER SIGN? PER SIGN. YEAH. THAT'S ALL DONE INTERNALLY.

SO IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE BIT HIGH. AT THE TIME IT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022,

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AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T INVITED TO THE RECS AND PARKS MEETING WHERE THEY DISCUSSED IT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER MOST OF THE QUESTIONS. BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 114 OF THE MATERIALS, WHICH IS ITEM J.4, IT WAS BEING REFERRED FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO THE RECS AND PARKS COMMISSION BECAUSE IT IS A PARK, AND THE PARKS PEOPLE NEEDED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION AND IT WAS REFERRED WITH SPECIFICALLY.

WE WILL LET THE RECS AND PARKS PEOPLE DECIDE WHAT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS THEY WANT.

WE COULD DO HUNDREDS IF WE WANTED TO, BUT WE FIGURED THAT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES ULTIMATELY DECIDING IT.

AND WE DO HAVE, BRINGING HISTORY TO COMMIT TO THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE HERE.

AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY, WHO WAS WITH THE RECS AND PARKS WAS ON THAT, AND WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE DECIDED 8 TO 10 WOULD PROBABLY BE AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER JUST TO GET THE WORK OUT THERE.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY SIGNS? I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION.

WE SENT IT TO RECS AND PARKS SO THEY COULD TELL US, AND THEY SENT IT BACK SAYING, HOW MANY DO YOU WANT? WHERE SHOULD THE SIGNS BE INSTALLED? THAT'S REALLY A STAFF DECISION ALONG THE PATHWAY.

HOW FAR APART, WHERE IT IS? SHOULD IT BE ALL CONGREGATED AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD? SHOULD IT BE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT? SHOULD BE EQUIDISTANT? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE TABLE. WE NEEDED TO DO IT.

THE SIGNS LOOK LIKE. THIS WAS 2022. WE'RE NOW IN 2025.

THREE YEARS LATER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED STAFF TO DO WAS COME UP WITH WHAT A SIGN LOOKED LIKE BASED ON THE MOCKUP.

SO WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH MY CRUDE PRINTING ON THESE SIGNS WITH REGARDS TO THAT, BUT THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

ULTIMATELY, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THE COST, IF IT'S THE ORIGINAL COST 2 TO $300 AND WE DO 8 TO 10 SIGNS. AT ONE POINT, I WAS WILLING TO FRONT ALL THE MONEY TO GET THOSE SIGNS IN.

BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME COSTS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY.

THEY´RE FIXED COSTS FROM THE CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE GROUND ON A POST THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

IT SHOULDN'T COST THAT MUCH. THERE ARE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT AGAIN, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY NEGLIGIBLE ON IT. AND SO THE MONEY PART IS NOT THE BIG HANG UP ON THIS ONE.

IT'S REALLY, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT OR NOT.

SO THE QUESTION FOR TONIGHT IS WHETHER WE WANT TO AGENDIZE A FULL DISCUSSION WITH THIS COMMISSION.

WE ACTUALLY VOTED IN OUR APRIL MEETING TO AGENDIZE THIS TOPIC.

SO THIS IS.

OKAY. YEAH. SO, IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION, YOU DETERMINED THAT DOMINGUEZ PARK WAS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE MUSEUM AND ALSO TO BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT, BECAUSE THERE ARE KIDS THERE. WHERE THERE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED AS WELL, OR? WELL, WE CHOSE THAT. WE'RE THINKING THAT DOMINGUEZ PARK, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOUSES THAT THERE.

AND THEN ALSO TO START WITH SIGNS THERE, AND THEN EVENTUALLY COULD POSSIBLY EXPAND TO OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS.

YEAH, IF YOU COME TO THE MUSEUM AND IT'S CLOSED, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN WASTING ALL YOUR DAY THERE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME HISTORY OF THE CITY.

AND TEN SEEMED EASY TO DO IN THAT LOCATION WITHOUT OVERSATURATING THE WALKWAY.

AND THEN IF THERE WERE TO BE, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY THAT ALREADY HAVE MONUMENTS AND PLAQUES THERE.

BUT IT WOULD BE.THE INTERESTING THING ON THIS WAS THE QR CODE, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE THEN IT KIND OF LINKS EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

RIGHT. SO YOU CAN DO THE ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS LIKE A WALKING TOUR OF THE CITY, CONNECTING ALL THE QR CODES. WE DO HAVE A ROBUST HISTORY.

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AND I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES KIND OF SHOWS JUST GETTING THROUGH THE 1920S IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT HISTORICAL EVENTS.

AND WITH THE QR CODES, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO A LOT MORE WITH REGARDS TO TELLING THE STORY TO PEOPLE.

INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL THE DESIGN PRINTED UP AS MUCH.

RIGHT. OF COURSE. SO TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS JUST BASICALLY, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? AND THEN, WILL WE WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A BETTER LOOKING DESIGN.

AND. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FABULOUS NEW LOGO. YEAH.

[INAUDIBLE]. VERY COLORFUL, FABULOUS NEW LOGO FOR THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

I LOVE THIS IDEA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OLYMPICS COMING AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN TO REDONDO. AND WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORY.

WE'RE NOT JUST A BEACH TOWN. WE HAVE HISTORY BEHIND US.

SO THAT'S EXCITING FOR ME, FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO KNOW WHO WE ARE.

I'M OKAY WITH THIS PROGRAM. MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE SET ON IT BEING AT DOMINGUEZ PARK? IF THE. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PLACES YOU CAN PUT THIS, IF DOMINGUEZ PARK WAS NOT AVAILABLE AND WASN'T NEAR THE MUSEUMS. THERE'S SOME STREETS. YOU CAN PUT IT ALONG THE ESPLANADE, WHICH I THINK WILL TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OVER THERE.

THIS ONE DID NOT SEEM. DOMINGUEZ PARK DID NOT SEEM TO BE DISTRACTING TO IT.

I MEAN, I COULD SEE YOU EVEN PUTTING A TIMELINE IN EVERY DIFFERENT PARK AND MAKE IT KIND OF LIKE A SCAVENGER HUNT AS YOU PUT YOUR TIMELINE TOGETHER.

THIS INITIALLY CAME OUT OF A CONCEPT OF WE CAN HAVE A MURAL WITH THE TIMELINE ON IT.

BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DIRECTION ON IT. SO THIS WAS JUST A WAY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION. AND ALSO, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET TO THIS POINT AS WELL TO.

I WOULD RECOMMEND WE KIND OF STICK WITH THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, WITH THE OPEN ENDED TO WE CAN REVISIT IT AND ADD OTHER LOCATIONS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE START TALKING NOW ABOUT ADDING LIKE A SECOND LOCATION OR OTHER LOCATIONS, I THINK THEN THAT MIGHT JUST BE MORE INVOLVED, BECAUSE YOU REALLY KIND OF.

WELL, WHERE WOULD WE DO IT? AND THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF INVOLVE MANY MORE DISCUSSIONS.

WHEREAS THIS IS KIND OF A COMPLETED PACKAGE AS IT IS, WITH THESE TEN AT DOMINGUEZ.

YEAH. AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE REALLY SMART OF US, IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, IS TO CREATE A TEMPLATE SO THAT WHEN WE'RE GONE OR WHEN THE STAFF TURNS OVER WHATEVER, AND SOMEONE SAYS, OH, WE REALLY WANT TO DO ANOTHER HISTORY MARKER, THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INPUT THE TEXT. WE KNOW WHERE IT'S BEING, YOU KNOW MANUFACTURED FROM.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DESIGN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS EXAMPLE IN THE PACKET. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT KIDS, YOU KNOW.

OH, THE MUSEUM WAS CLOSED. THE KIDS HAVE A REPORT.

WHEN WE PUT A QR CODE ON SOMETHING AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL TEXT, IT REALLY ELIMINATES SORT OF SCREEN FREE LEARNING, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET A SORT OF AWAY FROM IT.

I'M NOT SAYING DON'T PUT A QR CODE ON IT, BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER READ ABOUT HOTEL REDONDO OPENING ON A PLAQUE THAN TAKING OUT MY PHONE WHEN I'M AT THE PARK, SCANNING IT AND READING IT ON MY PHONE, OR MAYBE TRYING TO SHOW MY KID MY PHONE OR WHATEVER, JUST THINK IT REALLY KIND OF EXTENDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO THE PARK, YOU'RE GOING ON A WALK, TRYING TO BE OUTSIDE, NOT ON A SCREEN. WRITE IT UP.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONE NOTE ABOUT THE SIGN. AND YEAH, I BELIEVE IN IT.

I THINK I SAID I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT, YOU KNOW, SO.

YEAH, AND MAYBE AUDIO EVEN WITH THE QR CODES.

YEAH. GET THE STORIES OUT THERE. MAYBE YOUR VOICE? NOT MINE. NO, NO. YOU SEE HOW BAD I DRIVE? I TALK EVEN WORSE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT I WORK WITH THE. THE RESEARCH LIBRARIANS ARE WONDERFUL WITH THE REDONDO HISTORY.

AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO. AND WE'D HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD WORK ON THE SCRIPT,

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I JUST NEED A RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECTION ON WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.

AND THEN IF THAT IS A YES, HOW YOU WOULD PREFER US TO DO IT? ASSIGN IT TO AN ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, CREATE A NEW SUBCOMMITTEE, HAVE STAFF TRY TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH IT.

I'M HAPPY WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE WE HAVE WORKING ON IT.

AS A STARTING, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO JOIN FOR THAT PROJECT, WE HAVE ROOM FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE.

REMIND ME WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS CALLED_ WHAT IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE CALLED? THEY'RE NOT. BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY. YEAH. BUT YOU CAN BE ON THAT DISCRETE PROJECT IF YOU WANTED TO, FOR EXAMPLE.

THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE THE LANGUAGE FOR EACH OF THE SIGNS BEFORE THE QR CODE OR FOR THE ACTUAL SIGN.

I THINK THE NEXT STEP FROM US WOULD BE FIGURE OUT A, IF.

WHICH ONES. WHAT DESIGN WE WANT TO PUT ON IT.

OBVIOUSLY THE MOCKUP AND IF THE SIGN SHOP'S GOING TO DO IT, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR PARAMETERS ARE AS WELL.

SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS TO GET STAFF'S INPUT ON HOW TO DO IT SO THAT IT'S COST EFFECTIVE.

SO THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATES AND PICK TEN SIGNIFICANT ONES OR EIGHT SIGNIFICANT ONES OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.

AND SO IF WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO AT LEAST COME OUT WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND PROPOSE. AND THESE ARE THE DATES.

THIS IS THE SCRIPT WE WANT TO USE, KIND OF THING.

I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN ALL THESE SUBCOMMITTEES TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP AT THE END WHEN WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ITEMS. BECAUSE WE HAVE ACTUALLY A LOT OF WORK THAT ALSO NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

AND SOME THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH. BANDWIDTH? ENOUGH BANDWIDTH. YEAH. YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY.

WE'RE MISSING TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW.

BUT YEAH. WHO IS ON THE OTHER? WHO IS ON THAT COMMISSION WITH YOU? FOR THE OKAY. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I WAS READING THE SEPTEMBER MINUTES FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY GOT DONE WHEN THINGS GOT BROUGHT TO US ON THE AGENDA. SO I HAVE MY OWN PROPOSAL FOR GOING FORWARD, BUT I DON'T.

THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE'VE. WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHECKING OFF THINGS.

THE WILDERNESS PARK THINGS WITH THE COUNCIL. THE PATH OF HISTORY IS GOING FORWARD WITH STAFF.

WE'RE FINALLY GETTING MUSEUM REPORTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO GETTING INTO THE PARK, SO THINGS ARE GETTING DONE, AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO AT LEAST BRING THEM TO YOU GUYS, AND YOU CAN PRIORITIZE FROM THAT. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH YOURSELF AND COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY HERE? YEAH. IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO JOIN, THAT'S GREAT. I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER COMMITTEES I'M GOING TO BE PROPOSING, SO. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO KIND OF ADVISE ON THE DESIGN.

YEAH. OR FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK FOR, LIKE.

I GOT ONE QUESTION. IN FACT, I AGREE WITH MORE TEXT ON THE SIGNS FOR THE PHONELESS ENJOYMENT.

I AGREE WITH THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR DESIGN INPUT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO SAFETY CONCERNS WITH HAVING TEN SIGNS IN A PARK, PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND, ANY CHANCE OF ANY INTERFERENCE OF PEOPLE IN THOSE METAL POLES? I THINK OUR BIGGER PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE DOGS PEEING ON THE SIGN.

WHAT'S ON THE SIGN? THE DOG'S GOING UP TO THE SIGN.

IT'S 4 TO 5FT FROM THE GROUND, SO IT CAN BE HIGHER OR LOWER.

IT'D BE BASICALLY THE SAME SIGN AS WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME THERE. I'M JUST ENVISIONING WHAT PERRY PARK HAD THE SKATEBOARDERS RUNNING INTO THE PLAYGROUND.

WHOOPS. I'M MAKING SURE THERE'S NO WHOOPSIES HERE WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH IN THIS PARK.

BUT JUST FYI, JUST MY CONCERNS, IF THERE ARE ANY.

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ANYWAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEP.

OKAY. SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WALKING TIMELINE AND WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH DESIGNS AND OR COST ESTIMATES FOR IT TOO. I SECOND THAT MOTION. GOOD MOTION. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE FOR THIS AT THIS POINT? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU. YOU´RE WELCOME. OKAY. SO NOW WE ARE UP TO COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW AND PROJECT UPDATE.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE COMMITTEES.

SHOULD BE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. OF THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.

WELL, THAT LINK DOESN'T GO TO ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK I SAW ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES IT. OH, HERE WE GO. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S ON PAGE 119.

AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD COMMISSIONER LANG ON THAT BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT WAS. OH, WE ALREADY MADE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE THERE ALREADY? OKAY. THERE WE GO. THIS WAS JUST FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS OBVIOUSLY UPDATES. WE WERE WAITING TO SEE IF THE ORDINANCES WOULD GO THROUGH AND PASSED.

WE WERE. I KNOW THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BRING BACK THE COMMITTEES AS A WHOLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS JUST FOR UPDATES FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEES.

ONE OTHER ITEM THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ADDRESS WHEN WE BRING IT BACK IS, WE WERE ASKED FOR SOME CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE MAYBE A LITTLE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT EACH SUBCOMMITTEE DOES SO THAT IT MAKES IT MORE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE DOING AND UPDATING.

AND THAT, AGAIN, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT.

WE PLAN ON BRINGING A SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT. WE ARE WAITING ON THE ORDINANCES TO BE UPDATED.

SO TONIGHT THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TO ANY UPDATES THAT ANYONE HAS.

IT'S CURRENTLY REPRESENTING THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO UPDATE US ON PROGRESS.

SO ARE WE REFORMULATING? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST LIKE, WE SAID PARK RANGER FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT IS. WELL, WE WERE GOING TO BRING BACK THE SUBCOMMITTEES AS A DISCUSSION ITEM IN THE FUTURE AFTER THE ORDINANCES GOT PASSED.

BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF. COUNCIL WAS IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE BYLAWS AND RULES FOR THE COMMISSION.

SO WE HAVE NOT BROUGHT BACK THE DISCUSSION OF THE WHOLE SUBCOMMITTEE AS A TOPIC.

SO THIS IS JUST IN REGARDS TO UPDATES TO THE CURRENT SUBCOMMITTEES.

SO IF THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE UPDATES ON THEIR PROGRESS THIS WOULD BE THE TIME FOR THAT.

OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE ACTUALLY HAD THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE FIRST GO ROUND ON IT, SO. RIGHT. AND THERE'S A SECOND READING. AND THEN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT IT BECOMES OFFICIAL.

RIGHT. AND SO THEY DID PUBLISH THE PURPOSE OF THE INTENT, WHICH IS KIND OF, IF OUR COMMITTEES OR SUBCOMMITTEES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT, CAN WE ADOPT THE WORD SUB AND JUST CALL THEM COMMITTEES? BECAUSE. SURE. YOU JUST NEED THAT. IMPLIES THAT THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT IS OVERALL ON TOP OF IT, SO. DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF ALTERATIONS I THINK IS A REQUIREMENT. AND THAT'S COMMISSIONER GALASSI AND LANG.

DO YOU GUYS STILL WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH THAT? YES, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO THERE'S ROOM FOR ONE MORE.

ONE OF THE OTHER TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE NOT HERE TODAY, IT CAN GO ON.

FACILITIES USER SUBCOMMITTEE. OH, YEAH. ME AND COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY ARE ON THAT.

YES. AND SO IT´S COMMISSIONER GALASSI. I THINK IT'S USEFUL WHEN WE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS THERE. SO CAN I SPEAK FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT? SURE. SO, ANNUALLY, WE USUALLY, ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR, TRY TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE MEET WITH SOME OF THE YOUTH GROUPS TO DISCUSS THEIR CONCERNS. AND I JUST WANTED TO LET OUR COMMISSION KNOW THAT I'LL BE BEGINNING THE ORGANIZATION OF THAT MEETING,

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I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOO SOON. SO HOPEFULLY BEFORE THANKSGIVING WOULD BE THE GOAL.

AND THEN I'LL KEEP YOU GUYS ON THE COMMITTEE.

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN AND WHERE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A GOOD MEETING.

HOW DO YOU USUALLY PICK THAT DATE? DO YOU REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR THEM, OR DO YOU.

WORKS BEST FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S USUALLY A PRETTY INFORMAL MEETING. WE HAVE HAD BIGGER MEETINGS IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF DWINDLED DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, THE BASEBALL AND SOCCER FOR THE MOST PART.

AND OCCASIONALLY THERE WAS RUGBY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS RUGBY IN REDONDO ANYMORE OR IN OUR PARKS.

BUT THERE'S, WE REACH OUT TO ALL OF THE YOUTH GROUPS, AND SO WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN, AND THEN WE'LL HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND GET ANY UPDATES FROM THEM AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THEM.

DO YOU HAVE A LIAISON OR DOES THE YOUTH COMMISSION HAVE A LIAISON TO THIS COMMITTEE? THE YOUTH COMMISSION? NO, THIS IS. WE TALKED TO THE, LIKE, THE PRESIDENTS OF THE LEAGUE.

PUBLIC WORKS IS A BIG PART BECAUSE MIKE COMES TO THE MEETING AS WELL, AND SO THAT'S PRETTY HELPFUL.

USUALLY THE ROTATION OF THE VOLUNTEERS IS SO YOU GET NEW LEADERS OF THE LEAGUE, AND THEN THEY KIND OF DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK TO THE CITY OR WHATNOT.

AND WE JUST KIND OF BRIDGE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, THEN THEY RELAY THAT TO US AND THEN WE CAN TRY TO HELP.

OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE. AND I'LL SAY THIS GOING FORWARD, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES GOING FORWARD IS THE CONCERNS OF THE POWER LINES COMING DOWN ON 1/90TH, AND SEEING THAT THAT PROPERTY CAN BE TURNED INTO YOUTH FIELDS, BALL FIELDS OF SOME SORT. ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THE NEW REDONDO PARK, AS FAR AS WHAT KIND I KNOW FOR SURE THE YOUTH GROUPS IN THE PAST THAT LOCATION, BUT NOT.

THAT'S A HILL, I BELIEVE, WHERE THE MAYOR WAS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE TOP OF THAT HILL GOING DOWN BY THE SIDE.

THAT'S NOT A USEFUL PROPERTY FOR YOUTH SPORTS BECAUSE OF THE INCLINE.

THE BOTTOM WHERE THE POWER PLANT IS. I KNOW THAT'S STILL UP YEARS AWAY AND UP FOR GRABS OR WHATEVER.

WHAT THAT IS GOING TO TURN OUT TO BE. BUT THAT'S FLAT.

AND THERE WAS. SOME OF THE HOPE IS THAT SOME OF THAT LAND WOULD INCLUDE SOME PORTION OF IT FOR YOUTH BALL FIELDS.

OR NORTH REDONDO. THERE'S A LOT OF FLAT. YEAH.

LAND UNDER THE POWER LINES. YEAH, THE POWER LINES FOR SURE, BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING DOWN AT SOME POINT AND THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY COME DOWN FIRST BEFORE THE POWER PLANT. AND THEN THERE'S THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES, AS THE CITY MANAGER ALLUDED TO THE LAST TIME HE SPOKE.

THIS IS STILL YEARS AWAY. BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE THAT IT'D BE BEST TO TRY TO IRON OUT WHAT CAN BE DONE UP THERE AND SEE WHERE THE LEAGUES ARE. BUT, YEAH, FOR SURE, THE LAND, THE FLATTER LAND AT THE TOP OF 1/90TH HAS ALREADY BEEN KIND OF SURVEYED LOOSELY BY VOLUNTEERS. AND THERE IS SPACE WHERE THE NURSERIES ARE THAT ARE LEAVING. THAT SPACE CAN BE. IT CAN FIT FIELDS, ANOTHER BIKE PATH THROUGH THERE, BUT IT CAN ALSO FIT SMALLER SOCCER FIELDS OR BASEBALL FIELDS. I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT ONCE THOSE POWER LINES COME DOWN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN PUTTING HOUSING THERE.

AND I THINK MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF THE DATA.

LIKE HOW MANY CHILDREN, THOSE YOUTH GROUPS.

THE PRIMARY ANSWER OR PRIMARY THING THAT I WOULD TELL ANYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WE ALL KNOW THAT REDONDO IS A PARK SHORTAGE OR PARK SHORT.

I FORGET WHAT THE TERM. PARK POOR. PARK POOR.

AND WE'VE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT FEE THAT WE CHARGE DEVELOPERS RIGHT WHEN THEY.

THE NIMBY ACT, I THINK IT IS, WHERE IF YOU'RE BUILDING A PROPERTY IN REDONDO, YOU HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT FOR.

QUIMBY FEES. QUIMBY, QUIMBY. AND THE.

WHAT ARE YOU PAYING FOR? YEAH, RIGHT. IT'S GETTING LATE.

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THAT SHOULD NOT PROBABLY PUT CONDOS ON IT. IT SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. AND SO THE HOPE IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STILL SUPPORT THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. AND ALSO JUST TO NOTE, I THINK THAT IT MUST BE A TYPO BECAUSE I WAS ON THE FACILITY'S USER SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT IT SAYS GALASSI.

OKAY. I DON'T REMEMBER.

I THINK COMMISSIONER LANG IS BRILLIANT AT THAT POSITION.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO SUBSTITUTE COMMISSIONER LANG ON TO THAT.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE? WE'LL FIND OUT AFTER THE MEETING.

WE'LL REPORT BACK. OKAY. VOLUNTEER ACKNOWLEDGMENT PROGRAM.

COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S GOING. IT'S REALLY A ONE PERSON COMMITTEE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A FEW HOURS A WEEK. I'M GOING TO WORK ON IT THIS MONTH, BUT I'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES NEXT MONTH.

I'M GOING TO GET SOME APPLICATIONS IN TO US IN 30 DAYS.

SO YOU WANT THAT CONTINUED? AND PLEASE LET'S CONTINUE. WE HAVE MONEY SPENT AND WE HAVE HARDWARE TO BE HANDED OUT.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE LAST THING.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT HAVE MOVED OFF, WE CAN KEEP ON GOING WITH THAT.

FRANKLIN PARK PLAYGROUND SUBCOMMITTEE. COMMISSIONERS LANG, CALDWELL AND GALASSI.

SO YOU BASICALLY HEARD FROM DIRECTOR ORTA ON THE UPDATE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR FRANKLIN PARK EARLIER SO, THAT I HAVE NOTHING ADDITIONAL. DO YOU WANT THAT COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE ON IN THE NEXT? YEAH. THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO CONTINUE ON UNTIL THE PARK IS FINISHED, SO.

THE PUBLIC AMENITIES BYLAW SUBCOMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED AT THIS POINT, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ORDINANCE IS CLEARLY TAKING UP WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE, AND THE CODE OF CONDUCT IS TAKING UP THE SAME STUFF.

SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT? YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND A DISSOLUTION OF THAT COMMITTEE AND WITH THE OPTION TO BRING IT BACK IN THE FUTURE IF THERE ARE CONCERNS.

BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THINGS AND THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE COMING FORWARD OR WILL BE FINALLY APPROVED THAT WE'LL NEED IT. OKAY. ALTA VISTA PARK PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE.

YES. DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT ON? WE NEED TO CONTINUE IT ON.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING SET FOR OCTOBER 15TH WITH THE PICKLEBALL AMBASSADORS FROM SURROUNDING TOWNS. IT'S A LITTLE ROUND TABLE FOR THEM TO COME AND TELL US ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS, WHAT THEIR SUCCESSES ARE, WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE.

DIRECTOR ORTA AND I CAME UP WITH QUESTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, PICKLEBALL PLAYERS, THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE ASKING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

AND SHE CAME UP WITH QUESTIONS THAT SHE'S GOING TO ASK STAFF FROM THE NEIGHBORING TOWN.

SO WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH THE PICKLEBALL AMBASSADORS, WITH A MEETING ON OCTOBER 15TH, ROUND TABLE WITH THEM.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM THERE AND SEE WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

THE OBJECTIVE IS REALLY TO HAVE A ROLLOUT THAT IS SUCCESSFUL FOR US, RIGHT? WE WANT TO TRY AND AVOID ANY PITFALLS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A STRONG PROGRAM THAT RESPECTS THE PLAYERS, BOTH THE TENNIS PLAYERS AND THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS, AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND OTHER SPORTS THAT ARE PLAYED THERE.

SO YES, WE'RE CONTINUING IT ON. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE FOR THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY? SO THERE'S A. WAY BACK WHEN I OPENED UP A REDONDO BEACH PICKLEBALL PAGE ON FACEBOOK, WHICH I HAVE BEEN AT. WE DO NOT HAVE A.

WHAT'S THAT OTHER ONE? THE INSTAGRAM. WE DON'T HAVE AN INSTAGRAM YET, BUT THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT TOO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BE PART OF PARKS AND REC.

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OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT YOU ALL THINK WE SHOULD BE ADOPTING? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MADE SOME NOTES.

HERE, LET ME PUT ON THE GLASSES SO I CAN READ THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE SURVEY, RIGHT? THAT'S 30 YEARS OUTDATED. I THINK THAT WE, AS A COMMISSION NEED TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WILL PUT FORWARD TO COUNCIL, AS TO THE RATIONALE BEHIND WHY THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

MOVE IT UP THE LIST. THE MONEY IS THERE, IT'S ALLOCATED.

BUT THEY DO WANT TO HEAR FROM US. WE, YOU KNOW, NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR CHALLENGES ARE.

AND SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES WE HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED, WHICH IS PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR HOMES ARE ON THE LIST.

AND THAT CREATES A LOT OF PROBLEMS, BOTH FOR THEM AND FOR US.

PEOPLE ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESIGNATE THEIR.

THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAN DESIGNATE THEIR HOUSE.

AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE THAT WE. NOT WE, BUT THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION, STAFF, WE HAVE FALLEN BEHIND IN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I HAVE SOME IDEAS HERE THAT I PUT DOWN. SOME CAN HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, I WENT TO OUR CITY WEBSITE AND NOTICED THAT THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM IS KIND OF BURIED, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK FOR IT, YOU'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO GO TO.

SO I WANTED TO RECOMMEND THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE, BUT I WANTED TO RECOMMEND THAT IT GO DIRECTLY ON OUR LANDING PAGE.

I HAVE IT HERE SOMEWHERE. SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FIND THAT THAT INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO THE FOLLOWING.

ASSIST IN CREATING INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL AND A LETTER THAT WOULD BE SENT OUT TO PEOPLE REGARDING THE SURVEY, THE HISTORICAL RESOURCES SURVEY. APPROVE IT BY THE COMMISSION.

WORK ON LETTERS TO. THAT'S PART OF THAT ONE. AND ALSO ASSIST WITH MAILING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS. CREATING A COMMUNITY WIDE INFORMATIONAL VIDEO UTILIZING VOLUNTEERS IN AV, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, REDONDO STUDENTS MAKING IT AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE WITHIN EACH DISTRICT AT THEIR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THEY CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND OUR PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO AIM FOR.

IN JUNE, WE HAVE THAT RIVIERA FESTIVAL. WHAT'S IT CALLED? SOUTH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. I THINK IT IS RIVIERA.

SO THEY HAVE ALL THESE BOOTHS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, AIM TO HAVE A BOOTH THERE FOR PRESERVATION AND HISTORICAL INFORMATION. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO WORK ON.

AND REGARDING THE SURVEY, I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL BY THE COMMISSION TO MOVE THAT SURVEY UP THE LIST. SO, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE WE LOOKED AT

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WELL, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER HOUSE ON THAT STREET, AND THAT WAS ON THE LIST AS WELL.

AND I DROVE DOWN THE STREET TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND LO AND BEHOLD, IT'S NOT THERE. BECAUSE IT WAS DEMOLISHED A LONG TIME AGO AND A TALL AND SKINNY WAS PUT UP THERE.

HOWEVER, OUR LIST STILL REFLECTS THAT THAT HOUSE IS ON THERE.

SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CREATE A PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE TO BE WORKING ON THESE THINGS. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT MY FIRST NOTE OVER HERE IS.

WE NEED A RESEARCH AND PROMOTION OF HISTORICAL DISTRICTS AND LANDMARK COMMITTEE, BECAUSE SOMETIME,S AS WE SEE, SEAN O'ROURKE IS NOT GOING TO BE WITH THE CITY WITH US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN THE SITUATION WITH OUR FOURTH PERSON COVERING IT, OR FIFTH PERSON. SO WHEN IT COMES UP THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE RESEARCHED, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOLUNTEER AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK WE JUST NEED SOMETHING THAT CAN FOCUS ON RESEARCHING THE PROPERTIES AND THEN PROMOTING IT.

I'M GOING AROUND NOW TO ALL THE DEMOLITION PERMITS OVER THERE, AND I'M COMPARING IT TO ZILLOW. AND THIS IS SOMETHING COMMISSIONER ROWE SEEMS TO.

BECAUSE HE'S A REAL ESTATE PERSON. SEEING WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT THAT'S BEING DEMOLISHED AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES BEING DEMOLISHED, AT LEAST IN NORTH REDONDO THAT ARE IN THAT GAP PERIOD.

SO YEAH, JUST DOCUMENTING. SO I JUS THINK IT'D BE BETTER JUST AS A RESEARCH AND PROMOTION KIND OF COMMITTEE THAT WE CAN DO THIS STUFF, LEND OUR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND A FORMAL STRUCTURE.

ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR LIST OF. WELL, THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE WOULD HAVE SEVERAL ARMS, LET'S SAY. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT WOULD BE TO HELP OUR STAFF, RIGHT? TAKE SOME WORK OFF OF THEM. BECAUSE SOME OF THE REASON WHY THE COMMUNICATION HASN'T GONE OUT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY.

RIGHT? AND SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE LIST OF ALL THE HOMES, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN BEGIN TO PUT SOME WORDING TOGETHER AND ASSIST THEM IN THE MAILING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT THE LARGER THING IS THAT WE HAVE TO APPROACH THE COUNCIL.

SO WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, COMMITTEE, COME UP WITH WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, THEN PRESENT IT TO THE FULL COMMISSION FOR OUR AGREEMENT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU, AS THE CHAIR WOULD GO TO THE.

WELL, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN HERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AS THE LIAISON, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE ARE REALLY GOOD INTENTIONS.

I THINK IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HERE TO SPEAK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S PRIORITIZED AND THAT THEY CAN ALLOCATE WHATEVER THE STAFF NEEDS ARE FOR IT.

SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, RELUCTANT TO MOVE TOO FAR FORWARD WITHOUT SOME INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW IF ANOTHER LIAISON WAS HERE AND THE DISCUSSION WENT ON ABOUT THE LIBRARY, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THIS. BUT I DO THINK THAT MUCH OF YOUR CONCERNS ARE THAT OF THE DEPARTMENT.

BUT I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT WERE HERE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND COULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE BEFORE FORMING A SUBCOMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS, I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE COULD BRING IT BACK AS AN ITEM, AS A DISCUSSION TOPIC SEPARATELY, SO THAT WE CAN FLESH OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS.

AS IT IS NOW, WE'RE KIND OF ADDRESSING THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CURRENT SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITHOUT HAVING THE DEPARTMENT HERE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALL VERY VALID.

DOES THE STAFF PERSON NEED TO BE PRESENT FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET?

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AND ACTUALLY, WHAT I'M NOTICING IS, BECAUSE WE FOLDED IN SO MANY COMMISSIONS, IT'S ACTUALLY US INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STARTING TO TAKE ON A LOT OF THE EXTRA KIND OF WORK, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS TO PUT ALL OF OUR IDEAS DOWN IN TERMS OF PRESERVATION AND THE HOLES THAT WE'RE MISSING WHEN WE'RE UP HERE MAKING DECISIONS, AND THEN APPROACH STAFF AND SAYING, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED HELP WITH, AND THESE ARE IDEAS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AFTER SITTING IN, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 OF THESE PRESERVATION ITEMS. I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE IF WE BROUGHT IN A STAFF PERSON HERE TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE MORE WORK THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO DO AND THEN COME BACK TO US.

AND I THINK I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE CREATING THIS SUBCOMMITTEE AND MEETING A COUPLE TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, REFINING THE IDEAS, HONING IN ON WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS AND MAYBE WHAT THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BECAUSE ONE THING I DID WRITE DOWN, ESPECIALLY AFTER THAT FIRST WOMAN CAME UP AND WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT HOUSE AND YOU LOOKED IT UP AND IT WAS A C RATING, WAS THAT THE ARGUMENT CAN GO BOTH WAYS, LIKE IN THE OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT REALLY OLD HARPER HOME.

THEY SAID, OH, WELL, IT WAS JUST A STREET VIEW OBSERVATION.

AND SO THE STREET VIEW OBSERVATION IS WHAT CATEGORIZED THAT HOUSE AS A C.

AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN, YOU KNOW. IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS.

LIKE THERE'S NOTHING TO POINT TO, I THINK. SO ANYWAY, YEAH THAT'S MY $0.02.

I THINK WE CAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK WE CAN STILL FORM THE COMMITTEE.

WE'RE UNDER THE OLD RULES. THE NEW STUFF HASN'T KICKED IN YET.

AND WE CAN. IF YOU PLAN ON HAVING ANY PROGRESS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING WE FORM THE COMMITTEE, I WOULD FORM THE COMMITTEE NOW AND THEN DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE MEANTIME.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAN ADVISE US ON HOW DO WE NEED TO TWEAK IT.

BUT I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO ELIMINATE A COMMITTEE, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO VOTE TO ELIMINATE A COMMITTEE, IF WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE.

OR WE'RE GETTING RID OF ONE OF THE COMMITTEES TONIGHT? WELL, THE IDEA WAS TO.

RIGHT. YEAH, SO IF WE'RE GETTING RID OF A COMMITTEE, WE CAN ALSO, JUST AT THE SAME TIME, IN THE SAME MOTION, REALLY, JUST ADD THE NEW COMMITTEE.

BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS GOING TO FRAME THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS LIMITED BANDWIDTH ON IT.

I LOOK AT OLD MINUTES AND SO I CAN SEE THERE USED TO BE AN EDUCATION COMMITTEE THAT DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS I WANT THOSE MINUTES IN THERE IS BECAUSE HE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS LIKE, ARE WE PROACTIVE OR REACTIVE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THESE LANDMARKS.

IT'S LIKE, WELL, LET'S BE PROACTIVE IN THAT PROCESS.

SO I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST YOU ALL TO THROW OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR THE POSSIBLE COMMITTEES.

AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION EVEN TONIGHT ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THOSE OR WANT IT, AS OUR LIAISON SUGGESTS, TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP WITH THAT SPECIFIC STUFF.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR COMMITTEES.

AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, BY THE WAY, FITS INTO WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS, OR THIS COMMISSION IS OF THE NEW STUFF, TOO, SO. YEAH, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE HAD THE PRESERVATION PLAN BEFORE US, RIGHT? IT WAS PART OF OUR AGENDA PACKET, AND I STUDIED THAT QUITE WELL AND REALIZED THAT WE'RE NOT DOING A LOT OF WHAT THAT PRESERVATION PLAN DETAILS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE PREDICAMENT THAT WE'RE IN, AND NO FAULT OF OURS. AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LEARNING PROCESS NOW, LIKE YEAR FOUR DOING IT.

SO I'M REALIZING THINGS NOW THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE OBJECTIVE OBVIOUSLY IS TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING

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OKAY. YEAH. COMMISSIONER MCCAULEY DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR THINGS YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE TO FOCUS ON? FOR ANY AREAS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN? YEAH. AND THAT FALL INTO PARKS AND RECS, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OR LIBRARY.

WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THE COMMITTEES ARE GOOD IN THE SENSE THAT THEY SERVE THE PURPOSE OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH BANDWIDTH WITH THIS PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

AND THE PRESERVATION ISSUES ARE EXTENSIVE. WHEN THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES TO THE MEETINGS, THEY GOBBLE UP A LOT OF THE TIME.

AND SO I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN GET DONE IN COMMITTEE AND THEN BRING ISSUES TO THE COMMISSION TO EXPEDITE ISSUES IS A GOOD IDEA.

AND I THINK FOR THE YOUTH SPORTS OR FOR THE PARKS AND REC STUFF, I DO THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY ISSUES THAT WE ARE MISSING, THAT FALLING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF. BUT I THINK THROUGH THE.

AS FAR AS ADDING ANYTHING ELSE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD ANY MORE FOR THE RECREATION AND PARKS.

I THINK WE'RE COVERED ON THAT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, JUST COMPETING FOR THE BANDWIDTH.

AND SO WE ARE KIND OF STRETCHED, WHICH IS FINE.

THIS IS, WE KNEW GOING INTO THIS COMMISSION THAT IT WAS GOING TO KIND OF BE LIKE THIS. SO I THINK THE PRESERVATION PORTION COMMITTEE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD ADD THAT AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO ELIMINATE THE OTHER COMMITTEE TONIGHT.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROWE. JUST SOME COMMENTARY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M LEARNING THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS AND MILLS ACT.

AND I MEAN, ROUGHLY HOW MANY HOUSES DO WE HAVE THAT ARE LANDMARK? 115. THEY'RE THEY'RE HISTORIC LANDMARKS. THEY´RE HISTORIC LANDMARKS.

THEY'RE INDICATED ON BOTH THE. I SHOULD KNOW THIS.

I SHOULD KNOW THIS. HOW MANY ARE UP FOR POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SUCH DESIGNATIONS? I THINK THERE WAS 1400 IN THE 1996 SURVEY, AND THAT WAS NORTH REDONDO, ABOUT 1400.

AND IF YOU TAKE THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN 1950 AND 1975, WHICH ARE NOW ELIGIBLE.

75. THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO SKYROCKET. THAT'S WHY IT COST SO MUCH.

I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, 1400, BUT, I AGREE WITH YOUR PASSION TO OUTREACH TO THESE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ELIGIBILITY AHEAD OF THEM, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST MY TOP OF THE TOP OF MIND THINKING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD FOR ANY COMMITTEES AT THIS POINT.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK THESE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LANG. I DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL SUBCOMMITTEES, I THINK. I MEAN, THE FRANKLIN PARK ONE CAME UP AND THAT'S LIKE A PROJECT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE PLAY STRUCTURES AND THE PARKS FOR THE KIDS.

AND SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO BRING THOSE, YOU KNOW, FORM THOSE WHEN WE NEED THEM, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY. THAT ONE WILL FALL OFF SOON. AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE, THAT'LL BE, YOU KNOW.

SO WE'RE NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THAT. I HAVE SEVERAL THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BRING UP AGAIN, AND THE ONE THAT I LIKE THE MOST THAT WAS FROM THE RECS AND PARKS COMMISSION WAS THAT PARK RANGER COMMITTEE.

AND IT KEEPS ON POPPING UP AND THEN GETTING BURIED AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE GOT TO WAIT FOR THE BUDGET OR WHATEVER, BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CONSISTENCY, BECAUSE I THINK OUR PARKS DO NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S THERE THAT CAN BE A RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE OVER THERE. I WAS ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, AND I THINK WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE AND YOU'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN IT WAS A STAFF LIAISON AND THEN COMMISSIONER YOUSUFZAI, AND IT WAS LIKE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A TIME WHERE EVERYONE COULD MEET.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY SCHEDULING WITH, LIKE, THE POLICE OR THE OTHER.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE VERY DIFFICULT. AND SO I ALMOST FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, IF A COUPLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN GET TOGETHER AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AHEAD OF TIME, IT WOULD MAKE EVERYTHING GO FASTER.

BUT WHEN THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHOSE SCHEDULES YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE, THINGS REALLY SLOW DOWN.

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AND YOU COULD SEE LIKE THE WALKING THROUGH HISTORY TIMELINE 2022 IS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED AND IT'S NOW 2025.

SO IF YOU KEEP ON WAITING FOR THE BUDGET CYCLE TO BE IN SYNC, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS OUT AGAIN ON IT NEXT YEAR.

SURE. I ALSO THINK, AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

I THINK WE NEED A TREE LANDMARK COMMITTEE. WE HAVE SOME AMAZING TREES IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER DEVELOP THE CANOPY ORDINANCES FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO STEP OUT OF OUR LANE, BUT THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT ARE WORTHY OF BEING LANDMARKED THEMSELVES THAT ARE JUST PRETTY AMAZING TREES. AND FIGURING OUT IF WE DO LANDMARK A TREE, WHAT THE PROTOCOLS WE SHOULD BE RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MODIFY OR CHOP DOWN THE TREE.

WHEN I MOVED INTO REDONDO, THERE WAS A LINE OF PALM TREES THAT WAS ON A STRAIGHT LINE FROM 1/90TH DOWN TO LIKE HARRIMAN.

AND THAT WAS NOW, SLOWLY, THEY'RE ALL GETTING REMOVED.

WE HAD THAT TREE. THAT WAS A CHRISTMAS TREE. THAT ONE HAD A CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHT ON, AT THE CORNER OF BLOSSOM AND HARRIMAN.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M WALKING BY AND IT'S LIKE I'M NOT ON THE STREET WITH THE TREE, BUT NO.

TURNS OUT IT WAS CHOPPED DOWN, AND IT'S. SOME OF THESE OLDER HOMES, LIKE THE 1224 HAS A WONDERFUL MATURE TREE IN FRONT OF IT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING BY THE WAYSIDE. SO I THINK WE NEED SOME SORT OF TREE LANDMARK COMMITTEE START SMALL IN OUR LANE, AND THEN AS WE PROGRESS AND GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEN MAYBE EXPANDED INTO SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER.

BUT MOST OF OUR HISTORIC HOMES DO HAVE NICE TREES WITH THEM.

SO I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I HAD SUGGESTED TWO MEETINGS AGO THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF RECOGNITION PROGRAM FOR LANDMARKS.

SOME PLACES HAVE, YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL PLAQUES ON THEIR HOMES, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HOME AND INVADE SOMEBODY'S SPACE.

SO I WAS LOOKING INTO CREATING A BRICK THAT'S KIND OF STANDARD THAT HAS THE CITY LOGO ON IT AND SAYS THE LANDMARK, WHOSEVER HOME IT WAS NAMED AFTER IN THE YEAR THAT IT WAS BECAME A LANDMARK.

AND I GOT AN ESTIMATE FROM THE CITY ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO OPEN UP A PIECE OF CONCRETE AND INSERT THE BRICK IN.

AND BECAUSE BRONZE TENDS TO GET STOLEN NOWADAYS A LOT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE AND GET SPONSORS ON THAT AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE DOING MY RESEARCH, AS I SAID, LIKE TEN MINUTES, ALMOST 8 TO 10 MEETINGS AGO ON THE PROPERTIES AND JUST PUTTING TOGETHER HISTORY.

I'M DOING ONE ON 1224 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THE PROFESSIONAL REPORT MISSED A LOT OF THE HISTORY, AND IT NEEDS TO BE SUPPLEMENTED. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN OFFER TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TAKING ANY OF THEIR BANDWIDTH.

IF THEY TELL US THAT THEY'RE BRINGING ONE OF THESE PROJECTS UP, WE CAN START ON THAT PROCESS OF GETTING THEM HISTORICAL INFORMATION.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY ADD WITHOUT CAUSING TOO MUCH DETRIMENT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

I DO RESPECT YOUR OPINION THAT WE SHOULD GO WITH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, ABANDON THE ONE THAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO ABANDON, AND THEN BRING TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

WHEN WE HAVE OUR TWO OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO MAY HAVE SOME INPUT AS WELL ACTUALLY VOTING FOR THESE ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES AND GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT.

SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT. SO DON'T ADD ANYTHING TONIGHT, JUST ELIMINATE AND THEN WAIT TILL WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION TO VOTE TO ADD? WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE BYLAWS ONE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT, AND THEN COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU COMMISSIONER GALASSI TO FLUSH OUT YOUR PROPOSAL TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S NOT TOO THREATENING TO STAFF, BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISSIONER CALDWELL HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF.

RIGHT. AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY NOT MY INTENT.

[02:30:01]

WE CAN. YEAH, WE CAN ACHIEVE MORE BECAUSE WE'RE HERE.

RIGHT. AND WE CARE. AND YOU KNOW, MY BRAIN'S NOT WORKING AT THIS POINT.

SO I HAD WRITTEN DOWN ALL THESE NOTES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THEM CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH.

AND THE OTHER HALF, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THERE IS A LOT MORE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET TOGETHER AND REALLY COME UP WITH, LIKE, A MUCH MORE SUCCINCT AND WELL WORDED THING THAT WE WOULD PRESENT TO STAFF NEXT TIME.

SO OBVIOUSLY NOT MEANT TO BE THREATENING AT ALL, BUT TO BE HELPFUL AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP US TO DO OUR JOB, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER CALDWELL EVEN EXPRESSED IT IN THE LAST MEETING THAT HE FEELS FRUSTRATED, RIGHT? THAT EVERY TIME WE GET TO THESE SAME PROBLEMS OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS SURVEY, THAT'S 30 YEARS OLD, RIGHT? BUT LET'S. YEAH. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE AGENDIZE THE ACTUAL FORMATION OF NEW COMMITTEES AND MAYBE GET IN OUR MINUTES SOME OF THESE IDEAS, AND THEN AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OKAY. SO ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION BEFORE? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. GREAT.

AND SO THAT MOVES FORWARD. AND THAT BRINGS US TO.

MAKE A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE PUBLIC AMENITIES BYLAWS SUBCOMMITTEE.

I'LL SECOND THAT. I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT'S ELIMINATED AT THIS POINT.

AND IF YOU CAN CONVEY TO COMMISSIONER YOUSUFZAI AND CALDWELL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FORMING NEW COMMITTEES AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND IF THEY HAVE ANY IDEAS TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY, SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US NOW? ITEM M.

[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, AND I'VE HAD THIS FOREVER.

AND THAT IS, SOME INDIVIDUALS SEE THE DISPLAY AND THINK WE'RE BANNING BOOKS.

WE'RE NOT BANNING BOOKS. QUITE THE OPPOSITE. WE INVITE PEOPLE TO READ BANNED BOOKS AND WE'RE ALL FOR INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM.

GOODBYE MOON IS A BANNED BOOK? NOT IN THE DISPLAY CASE.

NO. I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT. THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WHEN I WAS ON LIBRARY COMMISSION, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SOME PUBLIC DETERMINATION ABOUT BANNED BOOKS.

SO I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. DO YOU WANT TO SHARE ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION TO THE DISTRICT 4 PEOPLE? WELL, I WAS AT THE DISTRICT 4 MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI INVITED ME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LIBRARY GOINGS ON, ESPECIALLY NORTH TORRANCE. NORTH REDONDO. I'M SORRY.

IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATE FOR ME AS WELL. BUT I WAS VERY HAPPY TO PRESENT, AND GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIELD QUESTIONS AND INPUT. COMMISSIONER GALASSI WAS THERE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK AT ANY FUTURE DISTRICT MEETINGS AS WELL.

IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL MEMBER INVITING ME.

GREAT. OKAY. ANY COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS OR FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS?

[N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

COMMISSIONER GALASSI. I JUST WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS TO REGARDING THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WAS WONDERFUL. SO WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SENSORY ROOMS. SO I WENT IN, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH.

THEY'RE ADAPTIVE SEMI-SECLUDED ROOMS. AND IF YOU GO ON HARBOR GATEWAY, IF YOU GOOGLE HARBOR GATEWAY SENSORY ROOM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONTINUING TO PURSUE, OR? WE ARE. THERE WAS A STAFF REPORT THAT WAS A PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION IDENTIFYING FUNDING OPTIONS, LOCATIONS AND RESOURCES. I THINK PART OF THAT.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. WE'RE CONTINUING TO PURSUE THAT, AS AN OPTION FOR SPECIFICALLY MAIN LIBRARY NORTH BRANCH IS A LITTLE TIGHT ON SPACE,

[02:35:05]

SO I'VE MET A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH A GROUP THAT I'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH FOR A LONG TIME, THAT'S THE SOUTH BAY LITERACY COUNCIL. AND WITH OUR FIRST INITIAL MEETINGS, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME CROSSOVER AND THAT THEY'VE COME TO OUR LIBRARY TO PRESENT ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR TUTORS.

BUT MY GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY BRING THEM INTO THE REDONDO BEACH LIBRARIES TO PROVIDE.

THEY ALREADY WILL PROVIDE LITERACY INSTRUCTION TO ADULTS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MORE FORMAL ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

BUT I HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT A LOT. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S A REALLY NICE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY ALSO ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE. THEY´RE ARE WONDERFUL GROUP, AND I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM IN THE PAST. THEY'RE COMPLETELY NONPROFIT, AND THEIR GOAL IS ADULT LITERACY. IS THE THOUGHT TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY HERE AND TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE VOLUNTEERS TO?YEAH, THEY ARE ALWAYS RECRUITING AND WE'VE HELD A COUPLE INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS, BUT WE'LL DO THAT.

AGAIN, I'LL TALK TO OUR ADULT PROGRAMING LIBRARIAN, BUT YES.

OKAY. AND THEN. SO I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR PRESERVATION PROGRAM INFORMATION IS KIND OF BURIED A LITTLE BIT ON THE WEBSITE.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF IT COULD BE. THIS QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU WOULD ASK TO, BUT THERE'S A BAR AT THE TOP, HOME GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS COMMUNITY.

SO UNDER COMMUNITY, IF THERE COULD BE A LINK RIGHT UNDER COMMUNITY THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

WE COULD DEFINITELY MAKE THAT TO GET THAT COMMUNICATED.

IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROWE.

NO ADDITIONS, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LANG. I HAVE NO ITEMS. OKAY. I HAVE TWO ITEMS. OKAY. AND I WANT TO BOUNCE THIS OFF YOU.

IT'S NOT A DIRECTIVE. IT'S BASICALLY. HEY, NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO NEEDS A STAFF REPORT TO IT. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WANTED TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT WE AGENDIZED WITH A COMMISSIONER REPORT INSTEAD OF THE STAFF REPORT, IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, SAY, HEY, IF WE'RE GONNA AGENDIZE SOMETHING AND SO WE CAN FIND OUT IF THE STAFF WANTS TO DO IT.

IF THE STAFF DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, WE CAN HAVE THE COMMISSIONER DO IT AND IT GETS PUT ON THE AGENDA.

SO THINGS DON'T LINGER ON FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.

BECAUSE IF WE DO AGENDIZE IT, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT UNTIL IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION, WE DON'T END UP GOING ANYTHING DEDICATION WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. YOU BROUGHT THAT ITEM FORWARD WITH THE RESEARCH YOU PRESENTED, IT WAS DISCUSSED AND MOVED FORWARD. SO ABSOLUTELY, WE DEFINITELY, WHEN POSSIBLE, LIKE TO BRING THE STAFF IN ON THOSE ITEMS. BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT.

BUT I WOULD WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER. SO I MEAN, IDEALLY WHEN THERE'S A PARTICULAR ITEM WHERE IT'S NOT DESIGNATED TO A COMMITTEE AND MAYBE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WITH BUYING FROM THE COMMISSION WANTS TO AGENDIZE SOMETHING WITHOUT A COMMITTEE, THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS WORK. I MYSELF, AS LIAISON, WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON A TIMELINE TO BRING THAT FORWARD AND TRY TO INCLUDE THE DEPARTMENTAL LIAISON, IF POSSIBLE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, A STAFF REPORT IS NOT NEEDED.

BECAUSE WE TALKED I THINK LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS GOOGLE DOCS, OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

RIGHT. AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN TEN MINUTES TO DISCUSS.

BUT IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF WE COULD PUT EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT WE SAY WE WANT AGENDIZED, THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP DISCUSSING IT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT IT DOES KEEP IT THERE IF WE DO WANT TO DISCUSS IT OR IF YOU KNOW, I WANT SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMISSION ON HOW TO MAKE THE NEXT STEP, OR WE PRESENT SOMETHING AND THE STAFF SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO UNDERTAKE THIS, YOU KNOW,

[02:40:07]

SO NOT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE NO WORK HAPPENED BETWEEN LAST COMMISSION ON IT, WE DID REVIEW THE MINUTES, AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A LIST THAT WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS UNDER THE STATUS OF THOSE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND I WILL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT.

BUT IF THERE'S. SO I WILL ALSO SAY THAT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ADDRESSED OR HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY. SO I DO THINK THE COMMISSION IS MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE REVIEWING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO AGAIN, THE COMMISSION IS OBVIOUSLY BEING EFFECTIVE, NOT DIRECTING STAFF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WORKING AT BALANCE WITH THE STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS, ESPECIALLY THINGS THAT BOTH STAFF AND THE COMMISSION HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY.

OKAY. THE OTHER THING THAT. IF YOU CAN BRING UP WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SO THEY PUBLISH. WHEN WE GET THESE LANDMARK STUFF, THEY PUBLISH A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT'S ON PEOPLE'S HOMES. AND AT THAT POINT, THE MATERIALS ARE PUBLIC.

EVEN IF IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA PACKET.

IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE AS COMMISSIONERS, IF IT'S ALREADY SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THIS DATE.

CAN WE GET THE MATERIALS BEFORE THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED SO THAT WE CAN STUDY IT AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT? BECAUSE IT IS OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC ALREADY.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT.

WE'RE JUST GETTING WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY GET AS A PUBLIC MEMBER.

I THINK THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING IDEA AND I DON'T SEE WHY NOT.

I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM. BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ADVERTISED AND LEGALLY HAS TO BE, SO. BUT I'D WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR KEEPING YOU LONGER THAN NORMAL, BUT WE ACTUALLY GOT THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF, SO I'M GOING TO. OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD AT 6:30 P.M.

ON NOVEMBER 12TH IN THE REDONDO BEACH CHAMBER AT 415 DIAMOND STREET.

IT'S THE INTENTION OF THE CITY TO COMPLY WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND ALL RESPECTS.

IF ANYBODY, AN ATTENDEE OR PARTICIPANT, AT THIS MEETING NEEDS SPECIAL ASSISTANCE WHICH IS NORMALLY PROVIDED, THE CITY WILL ATTEMPT TO ACCOMMODATE YOU IN EVERY REASONABLE MANNER.

PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT (310) 318-0656, AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, TO INFORM US OF YOUR PARTICULAR NEEDS AND DETERMINE IF ACCOMMODATION IS REASONABLE.

PLEASE ADVISE US AT THAT TIME IF YOU NEED ACCOMMODATION TO ATTEND OR PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND AN AGENDA PACKET IS AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY AT WWW.REDONDO.ORG UNDER THE CITY CLERK.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, THEN ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.