Oct 16, 2025 Planning Commission

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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OUR NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE HERE, SO CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER LIGHT. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.

HERE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. HERE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

HERE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. PRESENT. SO WE HAVE SOMEONE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? COMMISSIONER YOUNG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO SO? WOULD LOVE TO. PLEASE RISE.

PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SO CAN I GET AN APPROVAL FOR THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA?

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS.

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

BUT IF ANY EXIST, I MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THEM.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO RECEIVE. THERE AREN'T ANY.

VERY GOOD. SO NEXT ON OUR AGENDA WE HAVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED, AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW.

THOSE ITEMS REMAINING IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

THE CHAIR WILL CALL ON ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PULLED BY THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE, AND COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES.

WE APPROVE THE AFFIDAVIT OF. I GUESS THAT'S. ANYONE WANTS TO PULL? ANYTHING ANYONE WANTS TO PULL. MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SECOND. I WOULD LIKE. OH, YEAH, WE'LL APPROVE THE ITEMS. WE HAVEN'T GOT THE ITEMS YET. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

YEAH. THE. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS. I MAY HAVE DONE THIS OUT OF ORDER, BUT ON THE APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR THE ITEM F.2 I NEED TO, I CAN'T I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF ON THE APRIL 17TH MINUTES.

I WAS NOT HERE ON THAT MEETING. OKAY, SO DO WE WANT TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE F.1 AND 2? OH, I SEE YOU JUST CAN'T VOTE. THAT'S ALL. RIGHT.

GOTCHA. I COULD VOTE FOR EVERYTHING BUT THE APRIL 17TH ONE.

OR JUST VOTE FOR NONE OF IT AND MAKE LIFE SIMPLE. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER. OKAY, SO WE'VE ALREADY VOTED.

WE VOTED. GREAT. LET'S MOVE ON. NEXT, WE HAVE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD APPLY. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE WRITTEN. REQUEST, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THE SECTION.

AND I HAVE A CARD FROM MR. JIM MUELLER. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. YEARS OF STAFF HOURS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SPENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER CANNABIS RETAIL SHOULD BE IN REDONDO BEACH.

CANNABIS IS UNDER MULTIPLE SHADOWS, LEGAL SHADOWS.

FINANCIAL SHADOWS. HEALTH AND WELLNESS SHADOWS.

PRODUCT QUALITY SHADOWS. NOT TO MENTION LAW ENFORCEMENT SHADOWS.

STILL UNSURE OF ITS DECISION, THE COUNCIL IS SPENDING $45,000 TO SURVEY THE CITIZENS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO RFP FOR A CANNABIS SELLER.

YET WHEN A SURVEY ABSOLUTELY FREE TO THE CITY ASKING IF PEOPLE WANT A FARMERS MARKET ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD SHOWS AN OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE YES RESPONSE, THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF APPEAR UNMOVED AND UNMOTIVATED TO DO ANYTHING.

SO WHY HAS THE CITY SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON CANNABIS RETAIL, A SHADY ENTERPRISE CATERING TO SNEAKY PETES, TRYING TO COP A HIGH AND SO LITTLE TO A WEEKLY SATURDAY MORNING EVENT ATTRACTING FAMILY STYLE COMMUNITY GATHERING? IT'S A MYSTERY TO ME. ALTHOUGH MANY HAVE THEIR SUSPICIONS, YES, THERE ARE FARMERS MARKETS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK SOMEWHERE IN THE SOUTH BAY.

WELL, THE ONLY ONE ON SATURDAY MORNING IS FIVE MILES AWAY IN TORRANCE.

THE RIVIERA AND HERMOSA BEACH MARKETS ARE ON WEEKDAYS.

PEOPLE LIVING IN NORTH REDONDO WANT ONE ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, AND IT ISN'T ALL FOR THE BANANAS AND BLUEBERRIES.

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NOW, I'VE HEARD THAT ONCE THE FA IS INCREASED, MAJOR BAR OWNERS LIKE PROJECT BARLEY, CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB AND QUALITY SEAFOOD ARE CONSIDERING OPENING ON ARTESIA. WELL, THAT'S GREAT FOR EVENING BAR STYLE ENTERTAINMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY GREAT FOR FAMILIES.

IT'S ALSO NOT GREAT FOR THE RESTAURANTS ON ARTESIA.

I URGE THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY TO LOOK MORE SERIOUSLY INTO ESTABLISHING A SATURDAY MORNING FARMER'S MARKET ON ARTESIA.

THANK YOU. A CLARIFYING QUESTION TO OUR QUESTION TO ASK ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE CITY HAS OVER $1.1 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT TOWARD A GUN RANGE THAT WOULD BE PERFECT TO HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET AND PROBABLY HAVE A LOT LEFT OVER TO PAVE OR PAVE GRANT AVENUE TOO.

I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.

AND I HEARD YOU SPEAK ON THAT, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MONEY WAS FLOATING AROUND FOR AVAILABILITY.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE REALLOCATED. YEAH, IT IT NEEDS TO BE REALLOCATED BACK ON THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT SINCE WE DIDN'T GET THE GRANT AND WE HAVE ABOUT 1.1 MILLION LEFT OVER, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A PERFECT USE OF THAT.

I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WELL, THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER AND AND EASIER TO SET UP THAN ANY OTHER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON ARTESIA AT THE MOMENT. SO IT'D BE A GOOD START.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE A QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE RUMORS OF WHY WE DON'T HAVE WE'RE NOT HAVING ONE IN ARTESIA ON ARTESIA.

YOU SAID PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS ON WHY. I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PERSPECTIVE THAT IS A SERIOUS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. PEOPLE THINK THAT THE BIG DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO COME IN AND SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

COUNCIL PERSON OBAGI SAID THAT BUT WHAT I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR DEVELOPMENT IS TO GET THE COMMUNITY OUT ON THE STREET AND INTO THE AREA THAT WILL ATTRACT BUSINESS PEOPLE AND REVENUE TO THE CITY FROM ARTESIA BOULEVARD.

BIG COMPANIES THAT MIGHT DEVELOP ARTESIA. IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO SEE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA OUT BUYING STUFF, SPENDING MONEY. EXACTLY. IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT.

AND FRANKLY, DOES IT HAVE TO BE ON ARTESIA? IT COULD BE IN ANY OF THE PARKS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S A GOOD EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE IT SOMEWHERE IN NORTH REDONDO, FRANKLY. YEAH. WELL, GOOD. THE REASON I MENTION ARTESIA IS BECAUSE ARTESIA IS THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE YOU I WOULD THINK THE BUSINESS PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SEE PEOPLE.

AND PEOPLE ARE IMPORTANT TO BUSINESS, AS WE ALL KNOW.

WELL, I THINK I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE NODDING HEADS HERE BEHIND THE DAIS, I THINK WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN AGREEMENT.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT USE OF FUNDS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.

GOT IT. A HELL OF A FARMER'S MARKET WITH $1 MILLION.

EXACTLY. THERE COULD EVEN BE A WEED SHOP IN [LAUGHS].

[LAUGHS] SO, AND SHADY ONES APPARENTLY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JIM. YOU KNOW, FARMERS HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT. OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CARDS.

SO IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WANTS TO JOIN IN? THERE ARE NO ATTENDEES AT THIS MOMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAMAAL.

SO NEXT WE HAVE EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO ALLOW ALL OFFICIALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVEAL ANY DISCUSSIONS OR EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS

[I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]

MR. YOUNG. COMMISSIONER. GADDIS. YEAH. I HAD A CONVERSATION ON J2 WITH WITH COUNCIL PERSON BEHRENDT.

THAT'S IT. COMMISSIONER CONROY. NOTHING TO REPORT.

AND COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. I HAD CONVERSATION WITH CHAIR CRAIG.

I AS. I HAD CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE, MAYOR LIGHT INDIRECTLY ON J2 AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT BEHRENDT WITH J2 AS WELL. SO WE SHALL NOW START ON J1.

[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

PACIFICA CEMETERY, LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL R-1 ZONE.

CASE NUMBER 2025095. MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND BEFORE WE START, DO WE.

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VERY GOOD. SO WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO BASED ON THEIR RESIDENTS BEING WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THE ZONE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EXCLUDED FROM WOULD BE RECUSING THEMSELVES ON ITEM J.1 TONIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER BOSWELL AND COMMISSIONER YOUNG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, I COULD TURN IT OVER TO OUR SENIOR PLANNER, STEVEN GIANG.

HE'S THE PROJECT PLANNER ON THIS PROJECT, AND WILL PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVEN.

I'M PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT AT 2701 182ND STREET.

IN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING MAUSOLEUM ON THE PROPERTY, ALSO KNOWN AS PACIFIC COAST CEMETERY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 17 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R-1, WHICH IS LEGAL NON-CONFORMING AS THE EXISTING USE IS A CEMETERY.

THE PROPERTY HAS A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS ON IT DEDICATED TO STORAGE OFFICES, A CREMATORY, MAUSOLEUM, AND A CHAPEL, AND ABOUT 90% OF THE LAND MASS IS DEDICATED TO GRAVESITES AND EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.

THERE ARE THREE REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. FIRST WILL BE THE VARIANCE, A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.

FOR THIS ADDITION, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES A CUP WHENEVER AN EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING CEMETERY IS PROPOSED, AND THEN A PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW IS ALSO REQUIRED.

THE CITY OF REDONDO REQUIRES A PCDR WHENEVER ANY ADDITION GREATER THAN 1000FT² IS PROPOSED TO A NONRESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON A SITE THAT IS LARGER THAN 10,000FT².

THE SITE OR THE SURROUNDING SITE CONTEXTS CONSIST OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO THE EAST, LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, A PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITY TO THE WEST, AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS ON THESE PROPERTIES ARE AS FOLLOWS.

TO THE TO THE EAST, RAILWAY TRACKS EXIST. MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH, SCHOOL FACILITIES TO THE WEST, AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.

ON THE EAST SIDE, PARTICULARLY FURTHER EAST IS ALSO THE TRANSIT CENTER.

I HAVE SOME PHOTOS FROM THAT AS WELL, SO WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE LATER.

THE PROPOSAL ITSELF IS TO CONSTRUCT A 892FT² MAUSOLEUM ADDITION ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH END OF AN EXISTING MAUSOLEUM.

HERE YOU'LL SEE THE ADDITION IN GREEN AND THEN THE EXISTING BUILDING SURROUNDING IT IN BLACK.

THE PROPOSED ADDITION IS RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE AND APPROXIMATELY 19FT WIDE BY 112FT LONG, AND IS APPROXIMATELY 16FT IN HEIGHT.

THE FINISHED MATERIALS WILL INCLUDE GRANITE AND STUCCO.

THE NEW STRUCTURE WILL ADD ABOUT 312 CASKET SPACES, AND 648 NICHE SPACES TO THE CEMETERY.

FOR THE VARIANCE REQUEST, A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW A REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, WHERE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY EXIST.

THE PROPOSED MAUSOLEUM ADDITION IS LOCATED ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

IT'S TECHNICALLY THE. THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT IS FIVE FEET BECAUSE IT IS IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, IF THE PROPERTY WERE SET BACK FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, IT WOULD REDUCE THE WIDTH OF THE OVERALL STRUCTURE AND RESULT OF AN ELIMINATION OF PLANNED NICHE SPACES FOR THIS MAUSOLEUM. ADDITIONALLY, IT WOULD ALSO NOT ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING EASTERN WALL OF THE ADJACENT MAUSOLEUM, HERE SHOWN IN RED, THUS CREATING AN UNATTRACTIVE NUISANCE TO THE VACANT WITH THE VACANT SPACE THAT WOULD EXIST BETWEEN THE STRUCTURE AND THE PROPERTY LINE FENCE.

IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE STRUCTURE CANNOT BE PHYSICALLY MOVED CLOSER TO THE WEST, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF EXISTING GRAVES AND THE DRIVEWAY THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

AND OVERALL, THE PROPOSAL IS REALLY TO TRY TO MATCH THE EXISTING FACADE OF THE LARGER BUILDING TO THE EAST THAT CURRENTLY IS THERE.

THE PROJECT ELEVATIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS. THIS IS FROM THE FRONT AND THE BACK.

I SAID EARLIER, THE HEIGHT IS ABOUT 16FT IN THREE INCHES.

THE STRUCTURE IS A 112FT LONG AND 19FT WIDE. THE ONLY THE ONLY BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE FACING THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE IS THE EXISTING STORAGE BUILDING THAT IS THERE NOW. HERE IS THE SIDE ELEVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE.

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AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS WOULD SEE. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY OF THE CEMETERY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE. SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING EASTERN BUILDING FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER.

THE RED THE RED BOX ESSENTIALLY IS WHERE THE ADDITION WILL BE.

THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT WIDER BUT NOT TOO MUCH WIDER.

THE MAUSOLEUM ITSELF CONTAINS A 383 SQUARE FOOT INTERIOR ROOM FOR THE, I THINK IT'S A DISPLAY OF URNS. THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING, THE ROWS YOU SEE WILL BE USED FOR CASKETS AND URNS.

THE NICHE SPACE IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE TO THIS PROJECT.

IT'S OPEN TO THE SKY, SO IT'S NOT ROOFED. IT'S SURROUNDED BY FOUR WALLS THAT ARE 15FT IN HEIGHT.

THE LAYOUT IS ALMOST LIKE A COURTYARD, SO I TRY TO ILLUSTRATE IT HERE.

SO ON THE LEFT SIDE THE RED ARROW. THE RED BOX IS ON THE EASTERN END OF THE ADDITION, AND WHEN YOU ZOOM INTO IT, IT'S AN OPEN AREA THAT YOU WALK INTO TO VIEW THE THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

OR IT'S NOT A BUILDING, BUT IT'S FOUR WALLS, REALLY, THAT DISPLAYS THE URNS.

THE SQUARES THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE GREEN LINE ITSELF ARE ACTUALLY THE SPACES IN WHICH THE URNS WILL BE KEPT IN.

AND THEN THE LINES YOU SEE ARE ARE ESSENTIALLY SLOPE LINES THAT WILL INDICATE THE DRAINAGE AT THE CENTER OF THE COURTYARD, QUOTE UNQUOTE, FOR DRAINAGE. THE ELEVATIONS ITSELF SHOW WHAT THE WALL WILL LOOK LIKE FROM THE EXTERIOR SIDE.

WHICH WILL BE FINISHED WITH GRANITE OR STUCCO TO MATCH AS MUCH AS IT CAN TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THAT EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF MY SITE VISIT. SO ON THE TOP LEFT PHOTO, IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE ADDITION IS GOING TO BE FACING THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH. ON THE TOP RIGHT PHOTO, I'M STANDING WHERE IN FRONT OF THE ADDITION WHERE IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE RAIL LINE BEHIND IT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOPOGRAPHY IS UP A LITTLE BIT, AND SO IT HELPS PROTECT VIEWS OF THE STRUCTURE FROM REALLY THE ONLY PUBLIC SITE THAT ANYONE CAN SEE WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.

FOR THIS SPECIFIC SPOT IN THE PROPERTY, THE TOP OR THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER IS LOOKING SOUTH FACING WHAT THE FRONT OF THE MAUSOLEUM WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORAGE BUILDING BACK HERE BEHIND THE PROPOSAL.

AND THEN HERE'S THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY HERE THAT IS NOT BEING CHANGED.

AND THEN HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK OF THE TRANSIT CENTER AND THE RAILROAD.

THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY'S CONFIGURATION AND SURROUNDING CREATE A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT JUSTIFY THE VARIANCE.

THE MAUSOLEUM SITE ITSELF IS NARROW, IS A NARROW AREA ALONG THE CEMETERY'S EASTERN BOUNDARY, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A RIGHT OF RAILWAY RIGHT OF WAY, RATHER THAN ANOTHER PRIVATE PARCEL OR RESIDENCE.

ENFORCING THE REQUIRED FIVE FOOT SETBACK WOULD REDUCE THE MAUSOLEUMS WIDTH AND ELIMINATE PLANNED CRYPT NICHE SPACES.

BECAUSE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS A RAILWAY CORRIDOR WITH NO HABITABLE USE, MAINTAINING THE SETBACK WOULD SERVE NO FUNCTIONAL OR ESTHETIC PURPOSE.

THEREFORE, THE STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ZONING CODE WOULD DEPRIVE THE CEMETERY OF A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT PRIVILEGE CONSISTENT WITH ITS LONG ESTABLISHED INSTITUTIONAL USE.

THE VARIANCE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, AS THE SECOND FINDING SHOWS, AS IT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED CEMETERY USE AND MAINTAINS COMPLIANCE WITH THE INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.

THE ADJUSTMENT ONLY ACCOMMODATES THE SITE SPECIFIC CONSTRAINTS CREATED BY THE ADJACENT RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY, AND ENSURES THAT THE ADDITIONAL LINES WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE, WITHOUT GRANTING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS UNAVAILABLE TO OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED PROPERTIES.

AND LASTLY, THE VARIANCE SUPPORTS THE OBJECTIVES OF THE REDONDO BEACH GENERAL PLAN BY ALLOWING THE CONTINUATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF EXISTING INSTITUTIONAL USE THAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT STAFF BELIEVES THE PROJECT MEETS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FINDINGS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT SUPPORTS BALANCED LAND USE AND IS SUPPORTED IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

THE PROJECT IS NOT EXPECTED TO GENERALLY GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ARE EXPECTED WITH THE PROPOSAL, SINCE THE PROJECT IS MOSTLY INTERNAL TO THE CEMETERY GROUNDS AND FACES AN ADJACENT RAIL LINE. THE CONDITIONS AND DESIGN WERE INTEGRATED IN A WAY TO ENSURE PROTECTION OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW PORTION.

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AND LASTLY, THE VARIED FACADES ADD DEPTH AND DO NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT NEARBY PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND APPEARANCE.

THEREFORE, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE THE FINDINGS AS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT.

ADOPTING EXEMPTION, DECLARATION AND GRANT THE REQUEST AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN, REVIEW AND VARIANCE SUBJECT TO THE PLANS AND APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE TONIGHT FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

GREAT. I WILL OPEN UP. THERE MIGHT BE AN OBVIOUS QUESTION TO MR. SCULLY, BUT DO ANY OF THESE UNITS COUNT TOWARD OUR HOUSING RHNA NUMBERS? I'M SORRY, I HAD TO ASK. BETWEEN 312, WHAT, IT'S LIKE 960 UNITS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE COUNT AS PERMANENT OR IT WOULD BE NICE.

WE. WE COULD USE. COULD WE ARGUE THAT SINCE THESE ARE OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE WHO USED TO LIVE IN HOMES, THOSE HOMES THEY LIVED IN ARE NOW OPEN. SO PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL INVENTORY THAT WE COULD COUNT TOWARD THAT.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE THIS LOCATION OBVIOUSLY IS RIGHT NEXT TO NOT ONE, BUT SEVEN UNDERGROUND PIPELINES THAT ARE TO THE SIDE.

HAVE THE SURVEY BEEN DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A VERY CLOSE, I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED FURTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF INGLEWOOD AVENUE HAVE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THEY FOLKS ARE WORKING ON THE PIPELINES THERE, THEY THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A SINKHOLE THAT HAPPENED THERE, ONE HOME FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO ARE WE ANYWHERE NEAR SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A PROBLEM IF THEY START DIGGING OR EXCAVATING OVER THERE? NOT THE STAFF IS AWARE OF THE SURVEYS. DID NOT SHOW ANY PIPELINES UNDERNEATH THE SPECIFIC SITE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THIS PROJECT.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S EVERY TIME WE LOOK IN THAT AREA, WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN THERE, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY AWFUL. SO YEAH. AND I MIGHT ADD, THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, THEY'LL BE ALERT REQUIREMENTS AND CONTACTING AND NOTIFICATIONS TO THE AGENCIES THAT OUR BUILDING DIVISION REQUIRES WHEN YOU'RE DOING EXCAVATION.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? NO, I DON'T SEE ANYONE. I GUESS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? HOLD ON. I'M SORRY. YOU DIDN'T. I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.

I WASN'T QUICK ENOUGH. OKAY, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

NOW WE CAN MOVE ON. LET'S SEE. HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY TO SHOW HOW THIS EXPANSION WILL INCREASE FUNERAL RELATED TRAFFIC OR VISITATION FREQUENCY? A STUDY WASN'T REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT IT WILL NOT INCREASE ANY SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE ADDING OF THE THE SERVICES ARE STILL GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.

ALL THEY'RE DOING IS ADDING SPACES. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF TRAFFIC ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT IT WILL INCREASE VISITORS.

RIGHT. MORE VISITATION SITES WOULD. YEAH IT WILL INCREASE THE VISITORS.

BUT IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO TRIGGER A TRAFFIC REPORT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE MORE THAN 110 VISITORS A DAY DIFFERENT THAN THAT'S THERE NOW TO TRIGGER ONE. AND YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK, WILL THE, WILL THIS BUILDING BE CONSISTENT IN ELEVATION TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, USING THE SAME MATERIALS AND FACADE AND COLORS? THEY WILL TRY TO MATCH AS CLOSELY AS THEY CAN, SO THEY'LL USE STUCCO, BUT THE GRANITE WON'T BE 100% EXACT.

CHARISSA CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THAT IF IF IF SHE HAS A BETTER ANSWER.

BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE GRANITE. BUT THEY I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GUARANTEE THE EXACT SAME GRANITE IS BEING USED FOR ALL THE FACADES.

THAT'S THAT'S THERE NOW. BUT THEY WOULD ATTEMPT TO.

YES, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO MATCH IT AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN. OKAY.

HAVE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS BEEN NOTIFIED AND AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK? YES. SO WE DID THIS WAS PUBLICLY NOTICED, AND WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GREAT. AND JUST THE SETBACK ISSUE IS JUST THAT IT WOULD MAKE IT TOO SMALL BECAUSE OF THE IRREGULAR SHAPE.

DID I SEE THAT IN THERE? BECAUSE USUALLY SETBACKS ARE TO KEEP THINGS FROM GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, CAUSING ISSUES WITH NEIGHBORS, ETC.. AND BECAUSE IT'S RAILROAD TRACKS, YOU'RE NOT SO CONCERNED.

YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS FOR WHY STAFF WAS ABLE TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCE FOR THIS PROJECT.

YEAH. AND ADDITIONALLY TOO, IF WE SET IT BACK TO MEET THE SETBACK, WE'D CREATE THIS SPACE THAT YOU COULDN'T REALLY SEE ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD

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SO WE ALL FACTORS CONSIDERED IT WAS IT WAS MUCH BETTER TO LINE IT UP AND HAVE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, ZERO SETBACK. IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT'S. YES. FOR THAT REASON.

THAT MAKES SENSE. ONE MORE QUESTION. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

BEFORE BUILDING PERMITS ARE ISSUED HAS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN BEEN REVIEWED OR PLANNED TO BE REVIEWED BY PUBLIC WORKS SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF YOU KNOW, THE TRUCK ROUTES, DELIVERY HOURS, WORKER PARKING AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE SURROUNDING AREA? IT THAT'S TYPICALLY REVIEWED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESSING, SO AFTER, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DO APPROVE IT TONIGHT WHEN THEY SUBMIT TO BUILDING AND SAFETY FOR PERMITTING THERE THAT'S ROUTED TO PUBLIC WORKS SEPARATELY FOR THEIR OWN REVIEW.

AND THEN BOTH DIVISIONS GIVE THEIR OWN CORRECTIONS TO THE APPLICANT.

AND SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SATISFIED AND SATISFIED WITH BOTH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING AND BUILDING AND SAFETY BEFORE IT CAN BE ISSUED.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. SO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVEN'T OPENED THAT UP ON IT.

NO PUBLIC. PLEASE COME ON DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME.

HI. MY NAME IS JULIE YOUNG. I AM RECUSED FROM THE MEETING BEHIND THE DAIS FOR BECAUSE I LIVE TOO CLOSE.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN WHILE I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING GOING IN.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS NOT ONLY THE PIPELINES, BUT THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHAT COULD COME OF THE ROE IN THE COMING YEARS IF THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE THE TRAIN OR THE PIPELINES OR ANY OF THAT.

SO IT FEELS VERY UNCERTAIN TO ME BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AND HOW THOSE TWO PROJECTS COULD IMPACT EACH OTHER.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IN THAT CASE.

COME ON DOWN, DOUG. LET'S MAKE THIS THING LAST AS LONG AS WE CAN.

DOUG BOSWELL, DISTRICT THREE. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE CONCERN ABOUT VISITORS IS, IS IT'S INSIGNIFICANT. I SEE A FUNERAL, I EVER HAD A HOME OFFICE THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND I'LL SEE A FUNERAL MAYBE ONCE A MONTH AND POLICE BLOCK OFF THE INTERSECTION.

EVERYBODY GETS FUNNELED THROUGH. EVERYBODY PARKS INSIDE THE CEMETERY, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM.

AND THEN THEY ALL LEAVE. VISITORS TEND TO BE SHOWING UP ON DAYS LIKE VETERANS DAY AND HOLIDAYS, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS. AND I DOUBT I'VE EVER SEEN A DAY WHERE THERE WERE MORE THAN 15 OR 20 PEOPLE VISITING GRAVES AT THE SAME TIME. THE ONLY NOISE ISSUE THAT I'VE EVER COME ACROSS IS TWO ISSUES FUNERAL THAT HAD A MARIACHI BAND THAT WENT BIG TIME, DECIBEL AND ON AND ON AND ON ONE TIME AND ANOTHER TIME WHEN THERE WAS A BAGPIPE PLAYER. IT'S A VERY QUIET PLACE, AND IT'S VERY CALM, AND IT'S LIKE LIVING ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ABANDONED PARK, FRANKLY. I GET THEIR MAIL. SO I ALSO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ONLINE? ECOMMENTS OR? WE HAVE NO EATTENDEES. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

OKAY. SO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO CLOSE.

PUBLIC HEARING. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

VERY GOOD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION, OR HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION? NUMBER 2025-10PC11 AS WRITTEN. SECOND. OKAY.

AND ALL IN FAVOR? ROLL CALL VOTE. ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER LIGHT. AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.

AYE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

AYE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. AYE. APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS.

GOT YOURSELF A MAUSOLEUM. THERE YOU GO. I STILL WISH I COULD PLAY THE RHNA NUMBERS TO IT.

I LIKE THAT. DON'T [LAUGHS] YOU KNOW THE OTHER FUNNY THING? IT'S SO QUIET. IT'S LIKE LIVING ACROSS THE STREET FROM [LAUGHS].

SURVEYING THE RESIDENTS. YEAH. A BIT OF TRIVIA.

DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GRAVEYARD AND A CEMETERY? I LOOKED IT UP.

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NOT THAT I. [INAUDIBLE] SOMETHING EVERY DAY. WELCOME BACK.

I WAS BORED WHILE I WAS WATCHING MY GRANDKIDS SLEEP THE OTHER DAY.

I WAS READING THIS. HELLO FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

AND NOW WE HAVE A NEW MEANING TO AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION.

NOW THEY'RE BACK IN THE SEATS. I LIKE THIS. OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION HERE AGAIN. NO ONE'S RECUSED.

SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM J.2. THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCES AMENDING THE TITLE, AMENDING TITLE TEN, CHAPTER TWO ZONING AND LAND USE.

ARTICLE ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS, SECTION 10-2.402 DEFINITIONS IN TITLE TEN, CHAPTER FIVE COASTAL LAND USE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION ORDINANCE, ARTICLE ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS. SECTION 10-5.402 DEFINITIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO THE DEFINITIONS OF P, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT SLASH USE BY RIGHT IN THE CITY'S VARIOUS SPECIFIED ZONES AND PROCEDURES.

MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND BEFORE WE START, I WANT TO MAKE THIS COMMENT EARLIER, BUT WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT'S WHILE WE CAN ALL KEEP TRACK OF WHO'S SAYING WHAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, TRYING TO MAKE A PUBLIC RECORD OF THIS LATER WITH A TRANSCRIPT IS DIFFICULT IF WE TALK OVER EACH OTHER.

SO WHILE IT'S FRUSTRATING AND I KNOW IT TAKES MORE TIME FOR THE MEETING, LET'S TALK.

AND THEN I'LL DO MY BEST TO CALL ON NEXT. I HAVE TO DO A LOT OF RUBBER NECKING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN AUTOMATED WAY OF KNOWING WHO RAISES THEIR HAND.

SO JUST BE PATIENT. IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO KEEP A PERMANENT RECORD OF THIS LATER ON.

OFTENTIMES IF THERE'S A VIDEO, IT'S DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE STAFF'S LIVES EASIER. THANK YOU.

SO WE SHOULD OPEN UP PUBLIC. YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SEAN SCULLY PLANNING MANAGER.

SO BEFORE I DIVE INTO THIS, THIS ITEM, YOU KNOW, AS MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE, THIS IS INDIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

AND THERE WAS A RECENT COURT RULING ON OUR HOUSING ELEMENT OR RELATED TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT. THE COURT DID NOT MAKE A RULING ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND THE CITY'S POSITION IS THAT OUR HOUSING ELEMENT IS STILL CERTIFIED AND THIS IS NOT THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

AND I ADVISE THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT TO RAISE THAT ISSUE OR DISCUSS THAT RECENT COURT RULING.

THE CITY IS STILL EVALUATING NEXT STEPS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT BEFORE WE GET TO THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT IS TANGENT TO IT.

SO I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES. THIS IS A REALLY BASIC AMENDMENT TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S AS A RESULT OF THE COORDINATION WE'VE HAD WITH HCD AFTER THEY REVIEWED OUR CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. JULY 5TH, 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT.

JULY 11TH, WE SUBMITTED THAT ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT TO HCD.

ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, HCD CERTIFIED THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT AND SPECIFICALLY DETERMINED THE HOUSING ELEMENT TO BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH STATE HOUSING ELEMENT LAW. ADDITIONALLY, IN THAT CERTIFICATION LETTER, THEY NOTED THAT ALL THE REZONING AND HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION OF ALL THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN IMPLEMENTATION OF ALL THE PROGRAMS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT HAD TO BE COMPLETED BY FEBRUARY 12TH, 2025. SO SKIPPING AHEAD TO 2024 MANY OF OUR CURRENT COMMISSIONERS WERE ON THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME. WE HAD MULTIPLE HEARINGS JUNE 20TH, AUGUST 1ST, AUGUST 15TH AND SEPTEMBER 19TH, WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CERTIFY THE FINAL PROGRAM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND ALL THE LAND USE ELEMENT AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENTS AND ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE COASTAL ZONE UPDATES TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING ELEMENT, SPECIFICALLY THE ZONING CHANGES FOR THE HOUSING SITES AND THE HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND THEN COUNCIL PICKED IT UP IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER 5TH AND 12TH.

THEY CERTIFIED THE EIR. THEY ADOPTED THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT AND LCP, AND ALL THE ZONING CHANGES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT, HOUSING SITES AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE TRANSMITTED ALL THOSE ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS ON JANUARY 7TH UP TO THE,

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EXCUSE ME, JUST RECENTLY, AUGUST 27TH. THEY ISSUED A LETTER OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

AND THIS LETTER WAS ATTACHED TO YOUR REPORT. AND THE ONLY THING IN THE LETTER, AFTER REVIEWING EVERYTHING, WAS A REQUEST THAT THE CITY ADOPT AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING A DEFINITION OF PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR USED BY RIGHT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT. WE YOU KNOW, WE, WHAT WE HAVE IS FOR ALL OUR HOUSING SITES FOR AS A PROCEDURE, IF A HOUSING SITE OR A HOUSING PROJECT IS TO BE PROCESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY, IT SHOWS UP AS A P IN OUR LAND USE TABLE, AND AND THAT MEANS IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

AND WE PROCESS IT EFFECTIVELY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THIS NEW DEFINITION SAYS.

SO THE THE DEFINITION SAYS IF IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT THE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED MINISTERIALLY, WHICH WE DO IF IT MEETS PRE-DEFINED OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DOES NOT REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR ANY OTHER DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

AND THAT'S THE WAY WE PRACTICE ANYTHING THAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS NOT A PROJECT PER CEQA, AND IT'S EXEMPT FROM CEQA, AND WE MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS ROUTINELY WITHIN ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT.

SO THIS JUST FORMALIZES WHAT WE ALREADY DO AND WHAT THE STATE HAS REQUESTED US TO DO.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE.

WE SENT THIS UP TO HCD WHEN WE ROUTED IT TO THE COMMISSION.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET. WE ANTICIPATE THEY'LL PROBABLY GET BACK WITH US BEFORE IT GOES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT AND I CAN GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION BY TITLE ONLY AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE DEFINITION FOR PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. SCULLY. NOW, THIS DESIGNATION P THIS CLEARLY ONLY APPLIES TO HOUSING, CORRECT? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY ANY PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

SO IT'S HOUSING, YOU KNOW, UNDER, YOU KNOW, UNDER CERTAIN 2 TO 15 UNITS.

IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

BUT IT'S ALSO COMMERCIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE OUR INTERNAL TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ADDITIONS LESS THAN 1000FT².

ANYTHING THAT FALLS UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS.

SO YOU KNOW IT ALSO THIS DEFINITION WILL ALSO APPLY TO OTHER LAND USE CATEGORIES.

AND WHY IS THIS NEEDED. IS THAT WAS THERE SOME OVERSIGHT IN PERMITTED BY USE.

I THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS HAD THESE MINISTERIAL RULES ALREADY IN PLACE THAT DIDN'T COME TO US WITH CUP.

YEAH. YOU KNOW IT WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY I'VE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAYBE THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD TO SAY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE EXPLAINED TO THEM WE HAD A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND WE SAID, WELL, THIS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY BROUGHT THIS UP AND WE WERE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ASKING US, WHAT IF IT HAS A P, HOW DO YOU PROCESS THAT? AND WE SAID, WELL, IT'S MINISTERIAL.

YOU KNOW, WE EXEMPT IT FROM CEQA, WE TOLD THEM EVERYTHING THAT THAT THIS DEFINITION STATES THAT WE WOULD DO.

BUT THEY SAID, WELL, WE REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD.

WE WANT YOU TO EXPLICITLY INCLUDE THAT DEFINITION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOTTING THE I'S AND CROSSING THE T'S FOR HCD ON THIS.

I'M SORRY. WELL, ONE OTHER QUICK. I JUST WANT A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE NOW.

SO THIS APPLIES TO ALL THOSE CATEGORIES YOU SAID, INCLUDING ANY HOUSING. IT MIGHT BE LIKE A 20% AFFORDABLE BECAUSE I READ THE LETTER THEY WERE FOCUSING A LOT ON THAT. YES. SO SO SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THIS IS KIND OF A BLANKET.

IT'S BLANKET, BUT IT ALSO SPECIFICALLY THERE'S A, IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW PROVISIONS FOR THE 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

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WE ADDED THAT AS PART OF OUR UPDATE IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND THEN BY THAT, BY HAVING THAT IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS, IT'S SUBJECT TO THIS PERMITTED BY RIGHT PROCESS.

OKAY. SO IT'S STILL IN THAT CATEGORY. AND THEN THE I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS, I HAD I JUST HAD A NOTE ON THIS WAS REGARDING WITH CEQA.

IT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE CEQA, IS IT'S PRIMARILY THAT THESE HOUSING BILLS THAT ARE COMING FROM SACRAMENTO ARE EXEMPTED FROM CEQA.

CORRECT, YES. CEQA'S STILL APPLIED BECAUSE IT IS A PROJECT. HOWEVER, IT'S EXEMPT BASED ON STATUTORY PROVISIONS THAT MINISTERIAL PERMITS ARE EXEMPT. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO IS THERE I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WORDING AGAIN, BUT I WAS CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COASTAL SECTION COASTAL AREA IN OUR CITY TOO.

SO SHOULD IT ONLY APPLY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE COASTAL ACT? OR DO WE GO THERE WITH THAT? IT WOULD HAVE TO APPLY TO THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AS WELL.

ANY OTHER YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHERE ITEM ONE COMES IN.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED IF IT MEETS PREDEFINED OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

SO THOSE ARE OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE COASTAL ZONE.

SO THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD TRIGGER THAT ASPECT IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

THAT WAS A CONCERN I HAD BECAUSE SINCE WE HAVE A COASTAL AREA, WE DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LCP.

CORRECT. AND THIS SAME DEFINITION IS ALSO GOING TO BE IN OUR COASTAL ZONING, COASTAL ZONE FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE COASTAL ZONE.

RIGHT. SO VERY GOOD. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.

DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION ANYMORE. OH. I'M SORRY.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER CONROY. BASED ON YOUR QUESTION, FIRST ONE SO DOES THIS EXPAND, REDUCE OR JUST CLARIFY EXISTING BY.

RIGHT. JUST CLARIFIES IT. CLARIFICATION. AND REGARDING COASTAL ZONE, AS THE COASTAL COMMISSION REVIEWED THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE NOT. THEY WILL GET A COPY OF THIS AMENDED.

ONCE WE AMEND THE ORDINANCE, IT'S ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

IT WILL GO TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND IT WON'T ACTUALLY BECOME ACTIVE UNTIL THAT OCCURS.

DO WE KNOW IF HERMOSA AND MANHATTAN BEACH USE THE SAME DEFINITIONS FOR P, AND IF THAT COULD CAUSE INTERPRETATION ISSUES DOWN THE LINE FOR SHARED LAND USE APPLICATIONS, OR WOULD THAT NOT APPLY? I, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A RARE CIRCUMSTANCE.

AND I DON'T THINK, I WOULD BE SURPRISED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINITION.

WE DIDN'T CHECK ON THE OTHER CITIES WE WERE FOCUSING IN ON THE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION THAT HCD DIRECTED US TO MAKE THIS CONSISTENT WITH. SO YOU KNOW, I AM ASSUMING IF THEY HAVE A PERMITTED BY RIGHT, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE IT COULD GET A LITTLE WONKY, AS IF WE HAD A USE THAT WAS ON THE BORDER THAT THAT THEY REQUIRED A CUP AND WE DIDN'T, OR VICE VERSA. THAT WOULD GET A LITTLE WEIRD.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A SUPER RARE. THERE'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY I'M AWARE OF THAT ACTUALLY IS BISECTED JURISDICTIONALLY.

AND THAT'S THE THE DEALERSHIP RIGHT ON PCH AND REDONDO.

THAT'S A WEIRD. YEAH. THAT RANGE ROVER LOT. YEAH.

WE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GOT THAT, HOW THAT GOT DIVVIED UP, BUT I KNOW THE OFFICE, THE OFFICE, THE OFFICE THAT PAYS TAXES IS IN HERMOSA BUT THE OTHER THE LOT THAT IS REDONDO.

BUT WHERE THE WHERE THE TAXES GO ARE TO HERMOSA.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SALES OFFICE IS. OH, NO.

YEAH, THAT'S A BAD DEAL. YEAH. NOW WE GOT A QUESTION.

YEAH. PLEASE GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

YEAH, IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S JUST A SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED UP.

IT'S JUST A DEFINITION AND YEAH, SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

YEAH, THAT WAS STAFF'S WE, WE THOUGHT YOU REALLY NEED THIS.

AND THEY SAID YES WE'D REALLY LIKE YOU GUYS TO DO IT AND.

MAKES SENSE. SAID, HEY WE CAN DO IT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

THIS. THAT'S NOT A LOT, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS AMENDMENT.

AND YEAH, IT'S ABOUT AS SIMPLE A CORRECTION AS YOU CAN GET FROM HCD.

RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A TECHNICAL CLARIFICATION.

YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE.

AND AND WHATEVER WE APPROVE, HOWEVER WE APPROVE IT, WHATEVER THE WORDING IS, IT STILL NEEDS TO SAY THE SAME THING.

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WE TOOK LANGUAGE RIGHT OUT OF THAT GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION, YOU KNOW, SO THEY WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORDSMITH IT OR SOMETHING. SO I MEAN THEY STILL MIGHT.

BUT SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY NO, WE DON'T.

YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T NOTE ANY CONSEQUENCES, BUT WE WOULD RATHER NOT GO THERE.

YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS, IS FOR THIS TO COUNCIL.

RIGHT. SO COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION, REALLY JUST A PROCEDURAL THING.

JUST A CLARIFICATION. IT'S ONLY LANDING HERE FOR I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO KICK IT UP TO COUNCIL.

COMMISSIONER CONROY, I THINK SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CLARIFICATION.

THAT'S REALLY ALL IT IS, RIGHT? DOES THIS IS CAN I GO AGAIN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

ARE THERE ANY NEGATIVE ASPECTS TO THIS? IS THIS CHANGING ANYTHING AS TO HOW THE CITY DOES THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. NO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IN PRACTICE, WE THIS IS WE MAKE THEM APPLY TO THESE STANDARDS.

WE, WE WE DON'T REQUIRE ANY DISCRETIONARY ENTITLEMENT AND WE TYPICALLY EXEMPT THEM FROM SEQUA.

OKAY. RARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE DON'T, BUT VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. MR. SCULLY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE HERE? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. MOTION, THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A CEQA EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND AMEND TITLE TEN, CHAPTER TWO, ZONING AND LAND USE. ARTICLE ONE.

GENERAL PROVISIONS, SECTION 10-2.402 DEFINITIONS AND TITLE TEN, CHAPTER FIVE COASTAL LAND USE PLAN IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE ARTICLE ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS. SECTION TEN DASH 5.402.

DEFINITIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO THE DEFINITION OF P PERMITTED BY RIGHT/ USE BY RIGHT IN THE CITY'S VARIOUS SPECIFIED ZONES AND PROCEDURES.

I SECOND. CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? OH, SORRY. YEAH.

MR. HAZELTINE. SORRY. YEAH. I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I BELIEVE WE DO. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NEXT IS. ALL RIGHT, SO MOTION AND A ROLL CALL VOTE, I BELIEVE.

COMMISSIONER LIGHT. AYE, COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.

AYE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.

AYE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG I. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. SCULLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR DIRECTOR SCULLY.

YOU HAVE BEEN APPROVED. ALL RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.

NEXT IS ITEM K, ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION.

I BELIEVE THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT. AND NEXT IS ITEM L.1 ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

SO DO WE HAVE ANY MOTION MOTIONS OR OR WHO. AND WHERE ARE WE? WE'RE ON ITEM L.1. L1. ALL RIGHT. ELECTION OFFERS A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

YEAH, I NOMINATE WAYNE CRAIG FOR A FIRST REAL TERM BECAUSE HE'S HE'S SERVED IN THE PLACE OF SHEILA LAMB.

SO I NOMINATE HIM AS FOR A TERM. I'LL SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU. I. SHOULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER LIGHT. AYE. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.

AYE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.

AYE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM VERY HONORED ONCE AGAIN TO BE CONSIDERED BY ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU. WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A VICE CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CONROY TO BE VICE CHAIR.

I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY.

DO WE GET A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT? COMMISSIONER LIGHT.

AYE. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. AYE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

YES. COMMISSIONER, I MEAN CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. AYE.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. WE GOT OFFICERS.

YEAH. YOU'RE ON THE COMMISSIONER OF VICE. [LAUGHS] COMMISSIONER OF VICE?

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[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]

THIS COMING NOVEMBER WITH LAND USE ELEMENT UPDATES, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A LOT OF THE POLICIES IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT THE SAFETY ELEMENT, NOISE ELEMENT. AND OPEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE, PARKS AND RECREATION OR OPEN SPACE AND CONSERVATION ELEMENT. SO ALL THAT'S GOING TO GET GOING AGAIN AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO SPIN OUT OF THAT, THAT WILL BE COMING TO THIS BODY. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ACTED ON THE LAND USE ELEMENT.

YOU HAD MULTIPLE HEARINGS ON ALL THE THE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATES THAT WE'VE DONE.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT WENT ON TO COUNCIL, AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WE HAD TO IMPLEMENT, THEY BROKE THAT OFF AND JUST TOOK CARE OF THAT.

AFTER YOUR MEETINGS TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE FEBRUARY THAT DEADLINE.

AND SO NOW THEY'RE PICKING IT BACK UP AND THAT WILL BE PRETTY BUSY DOING THAT.

SO THAT'S REALLY JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER QUESTION ON THAT. DIRECTOR SCULLY, WITH REGARD TO THE YOU KNOW, THIS NEXT COMPONENT OF APPROVING THE PLAN, WE GO TO A GENERAL VOTE. SO ARE WE STILL TRYING TO GET THIS ON THE BALLOT IN MARCH FOR APPROVAL, OR IS THAT NOT LIKELY AT THIS POINT? IT PROBABLY ISN'T LIKELY.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SCHEDULE HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WE'LL HAVE A FIRST MEETING WITH THEM, AND I'M SURE THE TIMING AND THE SCHEDULE AND WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AT HOW QUICKLY THAT MOVES.

WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM THE COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER ON THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IS TO PUT ON THE BALLOT. IT'S GOT TO BE LIKE 120.

YEAH. IT'S GOT TO BE A PRETTY WEIRD TIME. I KNOW, I KNOW, NOVEMBER WAS KIND OF LIKE THE DATE WE WERE LOOKING AT.

SO IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE END UP BEING A SPECIAL ELECTION AFTER MARCH, IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. YES.

IT MOST LIKELY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY COMMISSION MEMBER.

COMMISSION MEMBER. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MENTION, ONCE AGAIN THE PRESENTATIONS YOU DO ARE FANTASTIC.

I ACTUALLY FIND THEM VERY USEFUL. AND I KNOW, I'M SURE OFTENTIMES YOU'RE WORKING ON THEM UP UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE, BUT I WOULD JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WHENEVER POSSIBLE, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THOSE AS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL DO THAT.

I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? SHAUN. YEAH. WHAT CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DO TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVISIT THE NORTH REDONDO FARMER'S MARKET ISSUE AND PERHAPS WIDEN IT TO NOT JUST.

YEAH, I MEAN, OR, SAY, A TEMPORARY ARTESIA LOCATION.

CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON, THAT YOU COULD PUT A LETTER TOGETHER YOU KNOW, DRAFT IT, AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO COUNCIL, AND WE COULD BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY, ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.

WHAT'S THAT? WOULD WE NEED TO DO THAT ON THE AGENDA HERE? YEAH, I THINK WE YEAH, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED THAT ON ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION AND AGENDIZE THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION IS AND THEN YOU WOULD DISCUSS THAT AND, AND BASICALLY COME UP WITH HOW YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D NEED A SUBCOMMITTEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO ACTUALLY DRAFT IT.

OR IT COULD GO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ARTICULATE IT AND THEN ADD IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIST THAT GOES TO THE COUNCIL AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. BUT IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO AGENDIZE AND DISCUSS.

DEFINITELY AGENDIZE IT. THEN YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO AGENDIZE THAT.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE A WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS A GROUP OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, IN ORDER TO WRITE A LETTER AS A GROUP, IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO AGREE AS A COMMISSION TO AGREE TO WRITE THE LETTER, I BELIEVE. SO I THINK WE, I HEARD EVERYONE AGREEING THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO AT LEAST TALK ABOUT IT.

SO I NEED A, SO, SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THAT UP AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT TO HAVE AN AGENDA FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS FARMER MARKETS EITHER ON ARTESIA OR OTHER AREAS, NORTH REDONDO, NORTH REDONDO TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND I SECOND THE PLANNING

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RIGHT IS TIME OF THE ESSENCE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT A MONTH TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN PREPARE A LETTER TO COUNCIL THAT'S 60 DAYS OUT BEFORE THEY GET ANYTHING, COULD WE SHOULD WE MAKE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO PREPARE A LETTER TO DO IT NOW? AREN'T WE RECOMMENDING STAFF PREPARE THE LETTER? I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. NO, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. THIS BODY. WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LETTER.

YEAH. YOU GUYS, WOULD. YOU GUYS. YOUR BODY WOULD WOULD COME UP WITH THAT.

THE THE BEST WAY TO EXPEDITE THAT. HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THEN DO THAT NOW.

GOD, I WISH I HAD THE BYLAWS IN FRONT OF ME. I THINK THERE'S A.

YEAH. IN THE PAST, I THINK. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. YEAH. I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED.

WE MIGHT JUST WANT TO TALK TO AS INDIVIDUALS TO COUNCIL THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

THAT MIGHT BE THE FASTEST WAY TO SEND THEM OFF LETTERS AS INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

I MEAN, YOU COULD DO IT INFORMALLY. YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I MEAN, I HAVE A FORMAL REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, MR. CONROY. SORRY. AS IN MY CAPACITY AS A PAST CHAIR FOR BUDGET AND FINANCE, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN I WOULD PREPARE A LETTER OR COUNCIL.

AND IT WOULD IT WOULD EITHER THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WOULD, WOULD TRUST ME TO REPRESENT THE COMMISSION, OR I WOULD FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH ONE OR MORE, 1 OR 2 OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND PREPARE THE LETTER AND, AND SUBMIT IT TO COUNCIL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.

CERTAINLY WE CAN DO IT AS INDIVIDUALS, BUT IF WE WANT TO DO IT AS A BODY, IT SHOULD COME FROM YOU.

CORRECT? YEAH, I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER. I MEAN, THE MAIN THING I'M LOOKING AT, I WOULD CONSIDER IT OBVIOUSLY TO EXPEDITE IT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE THIS DRAGON ON FOR 2 OR 3 MONTHS. IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO. AND AS I MENTIONED, MR. MUELLER, THERE'S $1.1 MILLION SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT THAT WE COULD APPLY TOWARD THAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU AND OR COMMISSIONER.

BOSWELL SPEAKING ON THIS SUBJECT OR PREPARING A LETTER DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL ON THE SUBJECT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP OUT. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN DO THAT, OR DO WE JUST HOW DO WE REALLY HAVE TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE? CAN IT JUST BE A LETTER FROM A LETTER THAT YOU WRITE THAT MAYBE IT'S ON BEHALF YOU ASKED ME FOR INPUT ON, OR I'LL PROOF IT AND WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN YOU COULD DECIDE ON THE LETTER AT THE NEXT MEETING.

NOW WE'RE AT 60 DAYS AGAIN. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO.

YOU COULD DECIDE NOW, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON.

ARE WE ON ITEMS FROM COMMISSION RIGHT NOW? YES.

[N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU CAN MAKE ANY SECOND.

ANY SECONDS TO THE MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I THINK WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ONE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. NEXT. THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO. YEAH. AND CERTAINLY MAKE IT QUICKER.

THAT'S GOOD. WE HAVE TO ADJOURN. I THINK WE NEED.

OKAY. CORRECT ME. WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON J2 AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK.

HAVE HIM SPEAK AND THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC. SO I'D LIKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON J2.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MR. MUELLER SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT. AND I DON'T WANT TO OBJECT TO THE TOPIC ITSELF, YOU KNOW, OR TO YOUR ACTION ON IT, BUT THIS HOUSING THING HAS BECOME A LEGAL ISSUE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

AND I'VE HAD ENCOUNTERS WITH ALL OF THE HOUSING LAWS HAVING TO DO WITH ISSUES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I KNOW IT'S A MURKY AREA THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.

SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN TO TRY TO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON

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BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO VOTE ON IT, AT SOME POINT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE, AND NOBODY LIKES TO GO INTO THE VOTING BOOTH IGNORANT.

YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING? SO I SUGGEST THAT THE CITY HAVE AN EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR THE PEOPLE ON WHAT ARE THE ISSUES IN HOUSING AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE THE CITIZEN OF REDONDO BEACH? I KNOW I'VE HAD ENCOUNTERS WITH HOUSING LAW HAVING TO DO WITH THINGS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THING WAS, ANOTHER THING USED TO BE THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE THE PLANS REVIEWED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, DOES IT MEET NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARDS? I WAS TOLD NO, IT NOW YOU NOW HAVE TO HAVE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THE THE SORT OF FUZZY, EMOTIONAL IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF THING.

SO. ALSO, I HAD A PROBLEM WITH TREES, YOU KNOW THE TREES THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CHANGE THE LAWS AND SO ON SO THAT THEY CAN CLEARCUT AND DON'T HAVE TO PRESERVE THE TREES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING, THINGS THAT I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

AND IF YOU COULD MOTIVATE THE CITY TO HELP EDUCATE THEM, ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

YEAH. AND TO ADD TO THAT CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT COMES OUT TO READ THE LETTER TO THE EDITOR SECTION.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH THE ACTUAL PROCESS WAS AND, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MORE EXPERT ON IT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHEN I TALK TO THEM, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE STUFF TOO. SO CERTAINLY THAT WOULD HELP OUT A LOT. I THINK, THOUGH, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET THE CITY TO RESPOND VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT LAWSUIT GOING ON NOW OR POTENTIAL.

SO THAT PROBABLY WILL, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE THAT SOME KIND OF GAME PLAN COMES UP AFTER THAT RULING, WE'LL PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION COMING. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO ENCOURAGE THAT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN I SPEAK.

THEY SHOULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB. GREAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I MIGHT I MIGHT ADD WE'RE SECOND SECOND.

SORRY I, I MOTION TO ADJOURN. I WOULD SECOND THAT JUST THERE WILL BE SOME EDUCATION I'M SORRY I'M SORRY HOUSING WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE HAVEN'T ASKED THEM YET, BUT WE THERE'S SO MANY HOUSING LAWS THAT ARE COMING.

THEY'RE JUST. IT'S JUST BLOWING UP. AND THERE'S SOME REAL EXPERTISE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST TO HAVE SOME TRAINING AT STAFF LEVEL, AND THEN THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO.

AND THERE'S A PROJECT THAT'S COMING UP, COMING THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO SOME EDUCATION OF THIS COMMISSION ON AT LEAST ONE SPECIFIC HOUSING BILL. AND THEN THERE'S SO MANY. SO YEAH, THERE'S WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME EDUCATION COMING.

YEAH. THERE'S LIKE IN MY LINE OF BUSINESS, I KNOW SIX LAWS JUST GOT PASSED RECENTLY THAT FOUR OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO IN EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST, AND NO ONE KNOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE APPLIED. YET ANOTHER CHANGE TO ADU LAWS IS COMING, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM YET, BUT THEY JUST GOT SIGNED.

YEAH, EXACTLY. SO YEAH, CERTAINLY A VERY FLUID ENVIRONMENT.

SO YEAH. VERY GOOD. SO A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

ARE WE READY TO DO THAT? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU AGAIN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.