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SESSION MEETING TO ORDER. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
[4:30 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING]
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT.
HERE. LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. LET'S SEE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. WE DO NOT HAVE ZOOM ATTENDEES, AND THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION. AND THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. SO WE'LL GO ON TO E.
[F. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION]
COULD YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IN CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA.THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.
ITEM F.1 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND LABOR NEGOTIATOR.
ITEMS F.2 THROUGH F.12 UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.
EXISTING LITIGATION. FOR F.2 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS GREGORY LANGADINOS VERSUS LOS ANGELES COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, ET AL. CASE NUMBER 225CV04746-MEMF-DTB. FOR F.3 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS MARK RHOADS VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CHIEF JOE HOFFMAN, CITY MANAGER MIKE WITZANSKY, OFFICER BRYAN AND DOES 1 THROUGH 20 INCLUSIVE.
CASE NUMBER 2:25-CV-09421-MCS-SSC. FOR F.5 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ET AL. VERSUS CALIFORNIA STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD CASE NUMBER 20STCP03193.
FOR F.6 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS IN REGARDS TO 9300 WILSHIRE LLC BANKRUPTCY C.D.
CAL CASE NUMBER 2:23-BK-10918-ER. FOR F.7 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS 9300 WILSHIRE LLC VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100 INCLUSIVE. CASE NUMBER 23STCP02189. THE NAME OF THE CASE IS IN REGARDS TO 9300 WILSHIRE LLC, 9300 WILSHIRE LLC, ET AL. VERSUS AES REDONDO BEACH LLC BANKRUPTCY C.D.
SONJA TRAUSS AN INDIVIDUAL VERSUS CITY. REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 25 INCLUSIVE. CASE NUMBER 23TRCP00325. FOR F.10 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA LLC CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100 INCLUSIVE.
CASE NUMBER 23STCV10146. THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA LLC, LLC AND LEONID PUSTILNIKOV CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.
CASE NUMBER B336042. FOR F.12 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEW COMMUNE DTLA LLC VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. CITY REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ET AL.
FOR F.13 THE PROPERTIES ARE 239 AND 245 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE.
PORTIONS OF APN 7503-029-903. FOR F.14 THE PROPERTIES OF PORTIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MARINA PARKING LOT AND SEASIDE LAGOON PORTIONS OF APN #S: 7503-029-900 AND 7503-029-903.
AND FOR ITEM F.15 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERSONNEL MATTER EVALUATION.
THE TITLE IS CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.
AND CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE? THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK.
WITH PERHAPS THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM F.15, I BELIEVE IT IS, OR F YES, THAT'S 15.
FOR ITEM F.1, WE WILL BE JOINED BY LAURA KALTY AND JANE CHUNG.
LAURA KALTY FROM OUR LIEBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE, OUTSIDE LABOR NEGOTIATOR.
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LET'S SEE HERE, FIVE THROUGH F.13, WE WILL BE JOINED BY DIANA VARAT, PETER PIERCE, ABIGAIL O'BRIENT AND JON WELNER ALL OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL ON THOSE MATTERS.OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION.
MOVE TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. OKAY.
MOTION TO SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE WILL RETURN ON OR ABOUT 6:00 TO REPORT OUT ON ANY CLOSED SESSION ITEMS THAT ARE REPORTABLE AND TO START THE REGULAR OPEN MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
ABSENT. AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, SO WE'RE RETURNING FROM CLOSED SESSION.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM CLOSED SESSION? YEAH, A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. WE WERE JOINED FOR ITEMS F.5 THROUGH F.12 BY OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MARK WIENER. WE DID NOT HAVE, AS PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED, JON WELNER OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL AS PART OF THAT CALL.
AND THEN FOR THE LEGAL MATTERS LISTED PURSUANT TO ITEMS F.2, F.3, AND F.4, THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY AUTHORIZED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DEFEND THE CITY IN THOSE MATTERS. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO TO ADJOURN TO OPEN SESSION? MOVE. MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OPEN SESSION SECOND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED.
OKAY. THAT'S A UNANIMOUS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI WHO'S STILL OUT.
HERE. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR OPEN SESSION MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB. I WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND YOU HAVE THE RECORD ON THE SHORTEST MEETING. SO ONE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE TONIGHT.
AND SO WE ARE STARTING OPEN SESSION A LITTLE BIT LATE.
AFTERWARDS, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP LOGAN, WHO'S GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LOGAN, THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LOGAN.
I AM A SECOND GRADER AT JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL IS MATH. I LOVE PLAYING VOLLEYBALL IN REDONDO BEACH.
PLEASE PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND READ THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, IF YOU COULD REMAIN STANDING NOW FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. LOGAN, GREAT JOB.
[APPLAUSE] COME ON UP AND GET A PICTURE WITH THE COUNCIL HERE. YOU CAN.
CONGRATULATIONS. I THINK YOU WIN THE AWARD FOR THE CUTEST.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS, LOGAN. WELL DONE.
[APPLAUSE] OKAY. NOW PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB 1, 02, 3, 4 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS.
[D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS]
ITEM D ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I'VE DONE A BUNCH OF THINGS.
I ATTENDED THE SOUTH BAY CITIES COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS MEETING ON OCTOBER 23RD.
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DEPLOYMENTS, AND ONE REGARDING EVALUATING THE CREATION OF A SOUTH BAY REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST.I SPENT SATURDAY AT THE WEST BASIN WATER HARVEST.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRACTICAL WAYS TO SAVE WATER AT HOME AND ACROSS THE REGION.
YOU CAN GET A FREE LANDSCAPE DESIGN AS PART OF THAT.
YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE AT WEST BASIN CA.GOV. LAST THURSDAY WE AS A GROUP MUST MANY OF US HELPED RBUSD THANK OUR CROSSING GUARDS FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
LAST FRIDAY, I JOINED LOCAL LEADERS AND PARTNERS TO SHARPEN THE NEAR TERM PRIORITIES FOR BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT AT THEIR STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT HALF DAY RETREAT. AND FINALLY, THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION HALLOWEEN TRICK OR TREAT WAS A HOWLING SUCCESS WITH HUGE CROWDS THIS YEAR AND GREAT CLEANUP CREWS. THE VILLAGE WAS CLEANER ON SATURDAY MORNING THAN IT WAS BEFORE THE EVENT ON FRIDAY.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
I ATTENDED THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARIES RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR THE EXTENDED HOURS.
ALSO, THE REDONDO BEACH ED FOUNDATIONS WENT FOR THE KICKOFF OF THE GOLF OUTING THAT THEY HAD.
AND THEN I ALSO ATTENDED THE SOUTH BAY FRIENDS FOUNDATION FUNDRAISER ON THE 31ST AS WELL.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
THIS WAS PLANNED FOR OCTOBER 27TH. AND ALSO ATTEND THE INSTALLATION INNOVATION FORUM TO HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF LOCAL DEFENSE COMMUNITY COOPERATION AND SPEAKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE DCIP GRANT, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WE APPLIED FOR FOR A SHOOTING RANGE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, MANY OF THOSE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OR DEPARTMENT OF WAR PARTNERS WERE NOT ATTENDING THAT CONFERENCE. SO WE DID CHOOSE TO CANCEL THAT TRIP.
SO WE DID NOT HAVE THE THE EXPENSE OF THE HOTEL.
THE AIRFARE HAS BEEN CREDITED. BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE REGISTRATION FOR THE CONFERENCE REFUNDED THAT WAS $1,275. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THE GOOD PART OF IT IS WE DID HAVE AN OPEN.
WE FOUND AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE GOVERNOR'S MILITARY COUNCIL.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO PURSUE SOME OPPORTUNITIES ON THAT.
I ALSO ATTENDED THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNTY LAST FRIDAY, HALLOWEEN DISCUSSING MEASURE A TAX SPENDING PLAN AND PROGRESS MADE TOWARDS THE ESTABLISHED GOALS FOR HOMELESSNESS IN THE COUNTY.
AND THIS MORNING I WAS AT SOUTH BAY AEROSPACE ALLIANCE MEETING DISCUSSING SEVERAL TOPICS, BUT TOP THE LIST TODAY WAS A POTENTIAL RELOCATION OF SPACE SYSTEMS COMMAND AWAY FROM LA AIR FORCE BASE. WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
THAT WOULD BE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON REDONDO, THE ENTIRE REGION THE COUNTY.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON.
AND I'LL BE AT VETERANS DAY NEXT TUESDAY, 1 P.M., NOVEMBER 11TH AT VETERANS MEMORIAL.
THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, FOR GOING TO THE COG WHILE HE WAS AT THE COG I GOT TO GO TO THE CHARGERS GAME AND I DID SO TAKING THE BEACH CITIES TRANSIT 102 LINE. YOU CAN SEE THE MAP ONLINE, BUT IT RUNS THROUGHOUT REDONDO UP TO THE REDONDO BEACH METRO TRANSIT STATION ON MARINE AVENUE, THEN TOOK THE K LINE UP TO LAX THE LAX METRO STATION.
AND THERE'S A SHUTTLE THAT GOES DIRECTLY FROM HUB A.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE HUB, BUT IT GETS LENT OUT TO THE SOFI SHUTTLE FOR METRO.
IT'S VERY QUICK AND EFFICIENT WAY TO SAFELY TRAVEL TO AND FROM SOFI STADIUM FOR NFL GAMES ONLY.
THERE ARE SHUTTLES FOR THE CLIPPERS GAME, BUT THEY'RE NOT FROM THAT STATION.
YOU CAN GO TO THE METRO WEBSITE AND SEE THAT.
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IN ADDITION, WE DID THE RIBBON CUTTING. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR ATTENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY SELF-SERVICE KIOSK.SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN DURING CERTAIN HOURS, I THINK, STARTING AT 9 A.M.
TO LATE IN THE EVENING, 11 P.M. CHECK OUT BOOKS AND WHAT.
IT'S 9 TO 11 A.M.? NINE SORRY, 9 TO 11 A.M.. CHECK OUT BOOKS AND CHECK BACK IN BOOKS.
WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THEIR GREAT. AND BY THE WAY, THANK YOU TO OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR, DAYNA VINKE FOR GETTING THE GRANT FOR THAT AND INITIATING IT, GETTING IT GOING.
YOU MIGHT SEE THEM PUTTING UP BANNERS, BUT THEY'RE JUST TESTING THE SIZE.
THEY BORROWED SOME BANNERS FROM HERMOSA THAT ARE THE SAME SIZE AS OURS.
SORRY. LASTLY, THANK YOU TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS ON HALLOWEEN WHILE WE WERE ALL ENJOYING THE RIVIERA VILLAGE, THEY'RE DOWN THERE BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE ON THE HOLIDAYS.
OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NONE TONIGHT, MAYOR.
OKAY, I'VE GOT SOME. FIRST OFF I WAS SCHEDULED TO GO TO THAT SAME CONFERENCE IN MONTEREY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC WAS, SO I WON'T REPEAT. IT'S THE SAME STORY. I'VE NOT BEEN.
SO I LEARNED A LOT THERE. SAT IN ON ESPECIALLY THE HELPFUL WITH SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES PANELS, PLUS JUST MEETING UP WITH DIFFERENT MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY ATTORNEYS THROUGHOUT THE DAYS WAS A GOOD TURNOUT.
I WANT TO REPEAT WHAT VETERANS DAY. CELEBRATE VETERANS DAY AT VETERANS PARK AT 1 P.M..
WE HAVE STARTED WORK ON THE MURAL ON THE PUBLIC WORKS WALL DOWN ON CATALINA.
SO WE'RE EXTENDING OUR PUBLIC ART. EXCUSE ME.
AND I DO WANT TO. I'M VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE AND PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THE OFFICIAL LAUNCH OF OUR DEDICATED WEBSITE TO WELCOME THE WORLD FOR THE UPCOMING FIFA WORLD CUP AND LA 28 OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC GAMES.
THE PLATFORM SHOWCASES REDONDO BEACH'S VIBRANT SPIRIT, OUR SCENIC COASTLINE, OUR COMMUNITY ASSETS AND PROVIDES VISITORS, ATHLETES, SPONSORS AND RESIDENTS WITH AN INTERACTIVE GATEWAY TO EXPLORE THE CITY.
SO AS WE PREPARE TO HOST THESE GLOBAL AUDIENCES, THIS SITE WILL SERVE AS A CENTRAL HUB FOR ENGAGEMENT, CELEBRATION AND CONNECTION. YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO EXPLORE THE SITE AT BEING THE POINT PERSON FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
WELL DONE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU.
[E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
MAYOR, I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ALLOW US TO PUSH ITEM H.6 TO THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING.WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO DO AS IT PERTAINS TO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
OKAY. MAYOR, MIGHT WE MAKE CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE N.3 AHEAD OF N.1 JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC INTEREST IN THAT? I'M NOT SURE IF WE GET SPEAKERS, BUT PROBABLY HAVE MORE SPEAKERS THAN ONE.
SECOND. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, SO AND TO ACCEPT THE DELAY OF H.6.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CHANGE THE ORDER, N.3 WILL GO AHEAD OF N.1, AND WE'RE PULLING H.6 TO THE MEETING ON THE 18TH. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.
SO ORDERED. THANK YOU. AWESOME. OKAY, SO NOW WE GO TO AGENCY RECESS TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF
[F. AGENCY RECESS]
THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY? SECOND MOTION A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY, SO NOW I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.HERE. MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. MEMBER BEHRENDT. CHAIRMAN LIGHT.
HERE. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA?
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SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU.ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? NO ITEMS? NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THIS AGENCY.
OKAY. WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NOW, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR. SECOND. OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ITEMS C.1 TO C.4 ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY? OKAY. NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE ONLINE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ZOOM FOR THE RECORD? OKAY, I'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR ANYONE OPPOSED.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE AT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS THIS ITEM IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT RELATED TO THE FINANCING AUTHORITY THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION, WILL LIMIT THIS TO 30 MINUTES, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES, AND EACH SPEAKER CAN SPEAK ONLY ONCE. SO DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE FINANCING AUTHORITY.
ANYONE ONLINE. NO ECOMMENTS OR ZOOM FOR THE RECORD.
OKAY, SO WITH THAT WE JUMP DOWN TO ITEM J. ANY REFERRALS TO STAFF RELATED TO THE FINANCING AUTHORITY? IT LOOKS LIKE NO. SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN BACK TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL? MOVE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SECOND.
OKAY, MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT.
HERE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL?
[G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
YES I DO MAYOR, FOR J.1 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS WE GOT PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.WE HAVE OPTION E, AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY.
THANK YOU. OKAY. CONSENT CALENDAR. WE KNOW WE PULLED ITEM H.6.
[H. CONSENT CALENDAR]
DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO PULL ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION LATER? OKAY. SEEING NONE. I'M SORRY. DID I MISS SOMETHING? YEAH. DID I GET A VOTE FOR THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? I MISSED IT. OH. I'M SORRY. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BLUE FOLDER ITEM.SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE.
OKAY. NOW CONSENT CALENDAR. IT LOOKED LIKE NOBODY WANTED TO PULL ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT PULLED?
[I. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]
I HAVE ONE CARD FOR H.13, RON MAROKO. NOT AS TALL AS LOGAN [LAUGHS].ESTEEMED MAYOR, COUNCIL. I'M RON MAROKO FROM DISTRICT THREE.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE MILLS ACT IS A STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENTER INTO A TEN YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE OWNER OF HISTORIC PROPERTY TO FURTHER THE GOAL OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. IN EXCHANGE, THE OWNERS GET A SIZABLE PROPERTY TAX BENEFIT OVER THE TEN YEAR OR HOWEVER LONG IT'S EXTENDED.
IT'S THE PRIMARY INCENTIVE FOR OWNERS TO BECOME HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
AND AS IS DONE WITH THESE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION, I AM HERE TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL ADD A CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT ONLY, PROVIDING THAT THE PROPERTY IS DEEMED TO HAVE DEEMED CONSENTING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE LANDMARK PROPERTY IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, SHOULD SUCH A DISTRICT INCLUDE THAT PROPERTY BE PROPOSED.
I HAVE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED A COPY OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, WHO WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ONE TIME, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I HAVE COPIES IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE IT, BUT IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS DURING THE TIME OF THE CONTRACT YOU'RE CONSENTING TO BE A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND AS WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY WE'RE GETTING ALL THESE PEOPLE FROM THE WORLD THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO OUR CITY, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE. AS YOU KNOW, OUR PRESERVATION ORDINANCE IS PREMISED ON BEING VOLUNTARY.
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EVERYTHING IS VOLUNTARY. THE OWNERS APPLY FOR PROPERTY TO BE VOLUNTARILY BECOME HISTORIC LANDMARKS.THEY VOLUNTARILY COME TO YOU AND SAY, WE WANT TO HAVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO VOLUNTARILY CANCEL THE CONTRACT.
ORDINANCE 10-4.102 STATES NINE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL, ARTISTIC, CULTURAL, HISTORICAL, POLITICAL AND SOCIAL HERITAGE.
THE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN SETS FORTH NINE POLICIES IN SUPPORT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, INCLUDING THE VOLUNTARY DESIGNATION OF POTENTIALLY HISTORIC RESOURCES SUCH AS LANDMARK AND HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT IS BEFORE YOU APPROVE THESE, PLEASE CONSIDER MODIFYING THESE CONTRACTS SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GETTING IN THIS GENEROUS CITY BENEFIT CAN BE INCLUDED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT IF IT EVER COMES DOWN THAT THEY ONE IS BEING PROPOSED.
THANK YOU. COULD WE GET YOU TO SUBMIT THAT LANGUAGE SO WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE RECORD? SURE. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. BASED ON THAT, DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL H.13? I MEAN, I WILL PULL H.13. OKAY. SO THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
YEAH. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE.
YEAH. ALL FOR? VOTING. TO PULL IT. YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
OH, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. NEVER MIND. SO WE'RE PULLING H.13.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT FOR H.15, THEY SUPPORT THAT THAT ITEM.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO MODIFY OUR MOTION TO APPROVE.
THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF H.6, WHICH IS CONTINUED, AND H.15, WHICH WE.
H.13. H.13 WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, AS YOU STATED. AND A SECOND.
SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. SO WITH THAT I'LL CALL THE VOTE OFF.
I JUST DID THAT. OKAY. SO NOW TO PULLED ITEMS H.15.
I NEED TO READ FIRST H.13. YEAH. GO AHEAD H.10.
ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY. RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2511-082 A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CALIFORNIA APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026 SURRENDERED AND ABANDONED VESSEL EXCHANGE (SAVE-25) GRANT AGREEMENT.
GRANT NUMBER C25S0607 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION, DIVISION OF BOATING AND WATERWAYS, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS.
ADOPT BY 4/5THS VOTE BY TITLE ONLY. RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2511-083 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AUTHORIZING A 2025-2026 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET MODIFICATION, APPROPRIATING 50,000 IN GRANT FUNDS FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION, DIVISION OF BOATING AND WATERWAYS, GRANT NUMBER C25S0607, TO THE CITY'S WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR THE DISPOSAL OF ABANDONED OR SURRENDERED VEHICLE VESSELS IN KING HARBOR.
H.11 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2511-084 A RESOLUTION, CITY COUNCIL CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPOINTING AN ADVISORY BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH THE RIVIERA VILLAGE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND DIRECTING THE PREPARATION OF A REPORT FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2026. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY, RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2511-085.
A RESOLUTION CITY COUNCIL OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE REPORT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025, IN CONNECTION WITH THE RIVIERA VILLAGE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2511-086 A RESOLUTION, CITY COUNCIL, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DECLARING ITS INTENTION TO LEVY AN ASSESSMENT AGAINST BUSINESSES WITHIN THE RIVIERA VILLAGE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2026 AND SETTING A TIME AND PLACE FOR HEARING OBJECTIONS THERETO.
AND THAT'S TO SET THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M.
FOR H.12. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3307-25.
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CALIFORNIA RESIDENTIAL CODE, CALIFORNIA ELECTRICAL CODE, CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE, CALIFORNIA MECHANICAL CODE, CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE, CALIFORNIA EXISTING BUILDING CODE, CALIFORNIA GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS CODE, CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE, CALIFORNIA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, CALIFORNIA HISTORICAL BUILDING CODE, CALIFORNIA REFERENCE STANDARDS CODE, 2024 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, 2006 UNIFORM SWIMMING POOL, SPA AND HOT TUB CODE, 1997 UNIFORM HOUSING CODE AND 1997 UNIFORM CODE FOR ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS BUILDINGS, TOGETHER WITH CERTAIN DELETIONS, ADDITIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE TITLES THREE, FIVE AND NINE OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL NOW GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, WHICH IS H.13.
JOY, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THIS LANGUAGE? YES. AND IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ADD TO THE CONTRACT IN YOUR? IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE COUNCIL. CURRENTLY, SECTION 10-4.303 STATES THAT FOR A HISTORIC DISTRICT, ONLY THOSE PROPERTIES FOR WHICH THE PROPERTY OWNERS SUBMIT A NOMINATION CAN BE INCLUDED, AND SO A DISTRICT WILL NOT INCLUDE ANY PROPERTY WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO GET THAT WRITTEN CONSENT.
WHAT THIS IS DOING IS THAT SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED A LANDMARK IS IMPLYING THE CONSENT TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE DISTRICT IF THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR DISTRICT DURING THE TERM OF THEIR CONTRACT.
SO IT'S KIND OF EXPEDITING THIS STEP THAT IS NECESSARY IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
AND AT ANY TIME THAT OWNER CAN WITHDRAW THEIR CONSENT.
BUT IF WE ADOPT THIS, WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY.
NO. OKAY, THANKS. COUNCIL. I THOUGHT YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. YOU WITHDREW IT. YOU HAD IT UP FIRST, SO GO AHEAD.
OKAY. YEAH. I DID SPEAK TO MR. MAROKO ABOUT THIS.
I HAVEN'T DONE A FULL REVIEW. HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY MANAGER ON IT.
SO THERE COULD BE A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE OR NOT.
CITY ATTORNEY. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO WITHDRAW AFTER.
SO IT'S AUTOMATICALLY CONSENTING TO WHEN THE DISTRICT IS FORMED.
FOR THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACT. FOR THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACT. YES.
SO IN THIS CASE, TEN YEARS. AND ONCE THE TEN YEARS EXPIRE, THEY CAN WITHDRAW.
YES. THEY AUTOMATICALLY WITHDRAW? YES. WHICH IS IT? IT'S. IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM. DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH THIS ANOTHER TIME? WELL, IF WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO AMEND IT AND GET THE AGREEMENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
OKAY. SO IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.
MARC SEEMS TO THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THESE TWO PARTICULAR CASES, BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE ON THAT TODAY.
YEAH. SO I WOULD SUGGEST, IF THE COUNCIL IS INCLINED FOR US TO PURSUE THIS, WE PULL IT FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA, TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, ASSESS THE FACTS, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH A REVISED ADMIN REPORT IF WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
OKAY. IS THIS TIME IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. YEAH.
BEFORE. BEFORE YOU DO, THOUGH, IF I MAY, JUST. QUICK. IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE? YES IT IS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS.
SO WE ARE RUNNING CLOSE TO THAT DEADLINE. I DO WANT TO NOTE IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS.
SO THE OWNERS VOLUNTEERED TO MAKE THESE PROPERTIES HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
THAT'S REALLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STEP VOLUNTARILY.
WHAT MR. MOROKO IS SUGGESTING IS THERE ALSO BE A CLAUSE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT IF A HISTORIC DISTRICT IS FORMED THAT THEY WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO OPT INTO THAT. WHEREAS NOW THE CODE ALSO GIVES THAT DISCRETION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
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REALLY, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER ALREADY CONSENTED TO THESE PROPERTIES BEING DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC LANDMARKS.SO THEY HAVE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROTECTIONS ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
THE DISTRICT IS JUST ANOTHER LAYER ON TOP OF THAT.
IT WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY THAT A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD NOT WANT TO BE IN THE DISTRICT AFTER VOLUNTEERING TO BE A LANDMARK, BUT THEY COULD. THERE COULD BE REASONS. I DO THINK IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THE AGREEMENT, IT'S ONE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CONSULT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON AND ENSURE THEY ARE AGREEABLE TO IT.
BUT THAT SAID, THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE AS WELL.
AND THE HISTORIC. BUT GO AHEAD. SORRY, I WAS GOING TO ASK.
DON'T LOSE YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT. HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A CLUSTER OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
ESSENTIALLY IT IS, AND THE BOUNDARIES OF IT ARE DETERMINED BY THE PROPERTIES THAT OPT INTO IT.
THERE IS A GAP BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT OPTED IN TO THIS POINT.
CORRECT. FOR THIS OTHER AND THIS IS A, I REFERENCED A SEPARATE APPLICATION THAT'S IN.
RIGHT NOW AND IT'S JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE MAIN QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT, YES, WE WOULD IN ORDER TO GRANT THIS MILLS ACT, THE OWNER ALSO HAS TO AGREE TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION INTO A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW THE IF IT HAPPENED, THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
YES. WHAT WOULD BE THE DOWNSIDE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER BEING FORCED TO DO THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT PROCESS WHERE IT'S VOLUNTARY? I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH DOWNSIDE TO BEING IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SO IF WE KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, WHICH IS A HOMEOWNER CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEN THAT WOULD KEEP THE PROCESS AS IT CURRENTLY IS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD TAKE A LOOK AT AS TO MAYBE EMBEDDING THIS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE BE WILLING TO OPT IN TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, BUT I DON'T SEE IT AS AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M A LITTLE TORN ON IT BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, I KNOW MR. MAROKO IS A HUGE ASSET TO THE CITY AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST HISTORICAL ADVOCATES WE HAVE.
AND ON THE OTHER HAND, I KNOW THIS IS A TIME SENSITIVE MATTER IN SOME WAYS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ANY CHANGE TO THIS COULD BE HAVE IMPACTS BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
SO, LONG STORY SHORT YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
MAY I ADD, FOR THE NEXT TIME THROUGH AND TABLE.
I THINK SO. SO MARK, IF YOU COULD. IF WE DEFER THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING, CONTINUE THIS TO THE 18TH, NOT NEXT WEEK, THE 18TH. SO DO YOU THINK THAT DOES THAT IS THAT TIMELY OR DOES THAT PUT THEM AT RISK.
SO I THINK IT'S PUTTING IT AT RISK OF NOT GETTING FILED THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
OKAY, OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IF WE SEPARATE THESE, I MEAN, THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM THESE TWO PROPERTIES COULD COME BACK AT ANY TIME AND SIGN THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THEIR TAX, REAL ESTATE TAXES, SO THEY WOULD BE COVERED IF WE APPROVED IT TONIGHT.
AND THEY CAME BACK AND SIGNED AN ADDENDUM TO THE MILLS CONTRACT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY.
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WITHDRAW FROM CONSENT FROM THE INCLUSION IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT.SO THE MILLS ACT IS VOLUNTARY, AND IT'S FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS, CORRECT? YES. SO AT THE END OF TEN YEARS, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, NO LONGER HAVE THE TAX BREAKS FROM THE MILLS ACT, BUT NOW THEY CAN'T WITHDRAW FROM A HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SORT OF CAUGHT IN LIMBO.
THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'D WANT TO UNDERSTAND BETTER.
SO THERE IS THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE LOSING SOME RIGHTS.
THEY'RE GOING INTO IT VOLUNTARY, BUT THEN THEY'RE LOCKED INTO IT WHERE WITH JUST A STRAIGHT MILLS ACT, THEY COULD WITHDRAW AT ANY TIME AS WELL. THAT'S CORRECT.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE HISTORIC LANDMARKING IS SEPARATE FROM THE MILLS ACT.
IN ORDER TO HAVE A MILLS ACT AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE TO BE LANDMARKED.
SO ONCE THE MILLS ACT EXPIRES, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A HISTORIC LANDMARK PROPERTY.
IF THE OWNER, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WANTS TO DELIST IT.
THE MUNICIPAL CODE PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR THAT, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL SEPARATE FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS A ANOTHER LAYER WHICH WOULD TAKE A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS OR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN A CLUSTER AND THEN VOLUNTARILY CREATE A DISTRICT PROPOSED TO CREATE A DISTRICT.
OKAY. SO THANKS, MARK. SO IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING THIS FORWARD, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE H.13 AS IT IS TONIGHT AND REFER TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE WHEN APPROPRIATE.
SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR JUST QUICK.
OH. I'M SORRY. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? I HAVE NO ONE ONLINE AND NO COMMENT.
ALL FOUR. BEFORE WE DO THAT, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER, IF I MAY, ON TIMING.
DO YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME WHERE THIS COULD DOVETAIL BACK INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING OR NOT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE AND THIS IS CITY ATTORNEY I KNOW REVIEWING A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEGAL THINGS, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF ORDER. SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH MARK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH THE GENERAL PLAN PHASE TWO ITEMS. SOME OF THAT'S OUR HISTORIC RESOURCE CODE. THIS WOULD BE, I THINK, A LOGICAL DISCUSSION. AS PART OF THAT. I THINK WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY. SO WE CAN WE CAN ADD THIS CONVERSATION TO THAT BROADER POLICY DISCUSSION PRETTY SEAMLESSLY, I THINK. AND IS THAT OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MADE THE MOTION AND SECONDED? OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT I'M FINE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLANNING ITEM RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT TIES TO THIS AS WELL.
RIGHT, WHICH WE PLAN TO TALK ABOUT ALSO DURING THAT GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.
SO YEAH OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.
THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE'RE NOW AT ITEM J. PUBLIC
[J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SESSION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION AND HAS TO BE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.
WRITTEN REQUESTS WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST. AND WE DO HAVE WRITTEN REQUESTS.
SO FIRST IS LISA HAPPEE-CATES AND THEN HOLLY OSBORNE.
MAYOR LIGHT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS A LIGHT NOTE.
I'M LISA, PRESIDENT OF KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL.
WE'RE HERE TO MENTION TO YOU. HOPEFULLY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS REVIEWED THE PRESS RELEASE OF OUR EVENT, WHICH INCLUDED OUR AMAZING VIDEO PREMIERE WRITTEN AND PRODUCED BY STEVE MORRIS, WHICH PEOPLE LOVE.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SAY KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL IS REALLY BRANCHING OUT AND DOING SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF REDONDO BEACH FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF OUR ANNUAL MIXER.
KEB REALLY IS WORKING TO GET OUT THERE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL BEACH.
KEEP THE ESPLANADE WAS PLEASED TO HONOR TWO PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES AT OUR MIXER.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING REDONDO BEACH PREPARE FOR THE MANY VISITORS COMING TO REDONDO BEACH DUE TO THE WORLD CUP, SUPER BOWL AND LA 28. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. OKAY. HOLLY OSBORNE AND THEN NIKKI NEGRETI MITCHELL.
GOOD EVENING, DOCTOR OSBORNE, RETIRED ENGINEER.
REDONDO BEACH DISTRICT FIVE. THESE REMARKS HAVE TO DO WITH THE NARROW WIDTH OF THE ROAD IN LAWNDALE.
IT'S AN AMPLIFICATION OF SOMETHING I SAID BEFORE.
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RECALL THE WIDTH, AND THE NARROW PART IS ONLY 75FT.ALTHOUGH METRO CLAIMED 81FT INITIALLY BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT MAKE EVERYTHING FIT, ALL THEIR INITIAL SKETCHES PRESENTED AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN AUGUST 2022 HAD THIS ERRONEOUS WIDTH. METRO WAS CALLED OUT ON THIS, AND SO THEY CHANGED THEIR SKETCHES TO 75FT FOR THE DEIR, RELEASED IN JANUARY 2023. BUT THEY DID NOT CHANGE THE DETAILED DRAWINGS IN THE DEIR APPENDIX.
THEY EXPANDED IT. THIS TALK IS ON HOW THEY CORRECTED THE DRAWINGS IN THE FEIR APPENDIX A, RELEASED SEPTEMBER 2025, THE METRO AGAIN METRO HAD THE WIDTH OF THE ROW INEXPLICABLY INCREASE FROM 75FT TO 81FT JUST SOUTH OF 171ST STREET. AND YOU HAVE THE DRAWING BECAUSE YOU I KNOW YOU ALL READ YOUR STUFF. OKAY. FOR THE FEIR METRO SHOWED THAT THE ROW WAS 71FT ALL THE WAY, BUT THEY ADDED BACK ON THEIR EIGHT SIX FEET BY PUTTING IN A CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT.
OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE HASH TAG AREA. AND I SHOWED ONE PICTURE AND THEN AN EXTENSION FURTHER DOWN ON ONE GOING TO 172ND AND 173RD. NOW, WHAT I DIDN'T MENTION BEFORE ON THIS ONE WAS YOU CAN'T TELL FROM LOOKING AT THIS, BUT THIS IS ON THE TOP OF AN EMBANKMENT. AND SO IF THEY STARTED CUTTING AWAY THE PERSON'S YARD, THEY'D BE CUTTING AWAY AT THE FOUNDATION OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO THE FIX OUT OF THAT WOULD BE EMINENT DOMAIN.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS SUCH A SERIOUS ISSUE. SO ALL THIS STUFF IS MENTIONED IN THE FAR PACKAGE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL READ. NOW I'VE GOT A SECOND ITEM THAT I JUST TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT I READ IN THE NEWS, NEW YORK TIMES THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW FIRING GUNS INDOORS AT TEST RANGES CAN CAUSE BRAIN INJURIES.
HERE'S A QUOTE. THE DATA SHOWED THAT SMALLER CALIBER GUNS CAN POSE A DANGER PRETTY QUICKLY, AND THAT LARGE CALIBER CIVILIAN RIFLES DELIVERED A BLAST WAVE THAT EXISTS.
WHAT THE MILITARY SAYS IS SAFE FOR THE BRAIN.
INDOOR RANGES DESIGNED TO MAKE SHOOTING SAFE CAN WORSEN BLAST EXPOSURE, THEY DISCOVERED.
SO I HOPE YOU LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE AIR FORCE AND YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NIKKI NEGRETTI MITCHELL AND THEN JIM MUELLER.
AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. GOOD EVENING.
NIKKI NEGRETTI MITCHELL, DISTRICT THREE. RIGHT OF WAY STAKEHOLDER.
SO I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT THAT TORRANCE QR CODE GENERATED FORM LETTERS, THOUSANDS OF THEM THAT BURIED THE CRITICAL COMMS FROM THE REFINERY AND THE PIPELINE OWNERS RESPONDING TO THE DRAFT EIR FOR THE C LINE AND TO REVIEW A REFINERY RAISED SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRECARIOUS CONDITIONS METRO ENCROACHMENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY WOULD BRING AT THE VERY ONSET OF CONSTRUCTION, EMPLOYEE AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND RISK OF INCIDENTS.
AND WITH THE SEVEN PIPELINES, THERE'S THAT CRITICAL CONCERN OF LAX OPERATIONS BEING DISRUPTED.
AND GUESS WHAT THAT WOULD BE DURING THE TIME OF THE OLYMPICS.
SO AND THEN AFTER COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION, WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THE DANGERS THAT A DERAILMENT ON TOP OF THOSE PIPES CAN BRING, WHICH IS HIGHLY DISTURBING TO PEOPLE FROM THAT INDUSTRY.
THEY SHOW LIKE A VERY VISCERAL REACTION WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT.
TURN RED, THEY'RE SHAKING. THEY'RE CONCERNED.
SO AND I PERSONALLY KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN TORRANCE CITY GOVERNMENT.
I WON'T NAME ANY NAMES, BUT AND THEY HAD THEY HAD NO CLUE.
THEY HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE REFINERY. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A NUM HEARING ABOUT THE PIPELINE ISSUES OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, LIKE NIMBY, [INAUDIBLE] RHETORIC, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STUFF.
AND IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT THIS CRITICAL STUFF GETS SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW AS A COMMUNITY THAT OUR CITY LEADERSHIP IS TAKING THIS SO SERIOUSLY.
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AND I WISH FOR YOU GUYS TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS TO TORRANCE LEADERSHIP.THEY DON'T EVEN COMMUNICATE WITH THESE IMMENSE ENTITIES, AND THE REVENUE THAT THEY GENERATE FOR THEIR CITY IS FAR GREATER THAN THE VOLVO DEALERSHIP. AND ON ANOTHER NOTE, I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THIS BOY THAT I SAW.
IT WAS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC ON INGLEWOOD AVENUE.
HE WAS IN THE FAST LANE ON HIS ELECTRIC SCOOTER, AND HE WAS NO OLDER THAN, SAY, 11 YEARS OLD.
PROBABLY TO GO HOME OR WHATEVER. BUT I DID SHARE THIS WITH CHIEF BUTLER, AND HE'S EQUALLY CONCERNED.
AND. CHIEF, [INAUDIBLE] I I'M SORRY. I ALWAYS GET THEM MIXED UP.
I'M SO SORRY. BUT THEN ALSO DRIVING HERE IN THE DARK.
LOTS AND LOTS OF E-BIKES. CHILDREN ON E-BIKES.
SOME OF THEM HAVE LIGHTS, SOME DON'T. IT'S CONCERNING.
IT'S SCARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JIM MUELLER.
AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.
IN RECENT STATEMENTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN REDONDO BEACH, THE MAYOR, JIM LIGHT RHAPSODIZES ABOUT THE $700,000 BOAT RAMP SEASIDE LAGOON RENOVATION, A NEW MARINE MAMMAL CENTER, THE NEW LIGHTING AND PAVING OF THE BOARDWALK, AND THE LUXURY RESTAURANTS ALL IN SOUTH REDONDO.
WHEN ASKED IN A FACEBOOK POST WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR NORTH REDONDO, THE MAYOR COULD ONLY CITE A COUPLE OF NEW ORDINANCES, AN ART PROJECT PAID FOR BY PRIVATE MONEY, AND REITERATED PROMISES FROM THE FIVE YEAR OLD AACAP.
WHEN ASKED TO SUPPORT ESTABLISHING A FARMER'S MARKET ON OR NEAR ARTESIA BOULEVARD IN NORTH REDONDO, HE IGNORED THE POPULAR SUPPORT IT HAS, INSTEAD POINTING OUT ALL THE POSSIBLE NEGATIVES.
HARD TO ORGANIZE. WILL VENDORS MAKE MONEY? CAN WE LICENSE THE LOCATION IN SHORT.
NEGATIVE. NEGATIVE. NEGATIVE. THE MAJORITY OF REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS AND VOTERS LIVE IN NORTH REDONDO COUNCIL DISTRICTS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE. YET WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTS TO IMPROVE NORTH REDONDO, FOR THESE PEOPLE, EVERYTHING SEEMS TOO HARD OR COST TOO MUCH. THE SO-CALLED ACCOMPLISHMENTS THE MAYOR TOUTS FOR DISTRICT THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE ARE NOT A LEVEL OF CITY INVESTMENT CLOSE TO THE DOLLARS PUT INTO THE HARBOR PIER AND DEEP SOUTH REDONDO, AND THE HARBOR IS, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, DOMINATED AND EXCLUSIVE TO PRIVATE YACHT CLUBS AND HIGH END RESTAURANTS.
FOR THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR, BY CONTRAST, THE ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED AND TOUTED AS GAME CHANGERS HAVE BEEN PROMISED FOR FIVE YEARS, EVEN ASSUMING THEY ARE EVENTUALLY IMPLEMENTED.
THEIR SUCCESS IN REVITALIZING THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR IS UNCERTAIN.
THE EMPTY LOT AT THE CORNER OF MCKAY AND ARTESIA HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS.
AN EXAMPLE OF DEVELOPMENT NOT PROMISED BUT NOT REALIZED.
MAYBE WE IN NORTH REDONDO SHOULDN'T EXPECT TOO MUCH.
THE, IN THE ELECTION LAST MARCH FOR MAYOR, FOUR OF THE FIVE CANDIDATES WERE FROM DISTRICT ONE.
NONE FROM DISTRICTS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE. THE DISTRICT FOUR COUNCIL PERSON RAN UNOPPOSED FOR THE SECOND ELECTION IN A ROW, EVEN THOUGH HE IS RELATIVELY NEW REDONDO RESIDENT, AND IN THE PRIOR ELECTION FOR DISTRICT FIVE COUNCIL MEMBER THE UNOPPOSED CANDIDATE WAS ALSO A NEW FACE TO REDONDO BEACH POLITICS. THE PEOPLE IN COUNCIL DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE NEED TO MAKE SURE IN THE NEXT ELECTION, THERE ARE CANDIDATES WHO WILL FIGHT FOR THE FAMILY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ITS RESIDENTS NEED.
THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK POINT OF INQUIRY, MR. CITY MANAGER. HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS FOR PERMITS OR PROPOSALS FROM ANY GROUPS TO OPEN A FARMER'S MARKET IN NORTH REDONDO? NOT. NOT OF LATE. IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS. WE DID EXPLORE A NORTHERN FARMER'S MARKET AT THE PERFORMING ARTS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED. BUT TO ME, THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT WOULD BE BEST DISCUSSED AS PART OF A TRADITIONAL BUDGET RESPONSE REPORT AND AN INITIATIVE THAT ULTIMATELY COULD BE PART OF A STRAT PLAN.
OKAY. AND JUST TO THAT POINT, IF A VENDOR OR GROUP CAME TO THE CITY AND REQUESTED A PERMIT OR A PLACE FOR A FARMER'S MARKET, PRESUMABLY THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE THAT COULD BE EXPLORED.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY COULD BE. IT'S FAIRLY DELIBERATIVE PROCESS.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS THERE, WHETHER IT BE TRAFFIC CONTROL, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF ITEMS. IT'S NOT LIKE CITIES BLOCKING SOMEONE FROM HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FOR YEARS.
OUR CHALLENGE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN FINDING A VIABLE LOCATION. AND IT IS.
AND IN A SPOT THAT'S DESIRED BY THE VENDORS THEMSELVES IN ADDITION TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
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AND AT THIS POINT, NO VENDORS COME FORWARD WITH A VIABLE OPTION.NOT NOT RECENTLY. THAT'S WORKED IN ANY OF THE SPACES THE CITY WAS WILLING TO CONSIDER.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE HAVE ONE ON ZOOM. MARK NELSON.
AND NOT YIELDING TO TRAFFIC. IN FACT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN STOP AT THE RED LIGHT.
FAILING TO YIELD TO TRAFFIC IS PRETTY COMMON FROM BEACH CITIES DRIVERS.
ALTHOUGH NOT TYPICALLY THIS EGREGIOUS. THE BRONCO CAUSED A CHAIN REACTION.
THE BRONCO ENDED UP SOUTH, BOUND IN THE NORTHBOUND LANES.
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A REAL TRAGEDY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE GOT ROOS AND PARIS STUDENTS WALKING AND E-BIKING DOWN THE 500 BLOCK OF PROSPECT. IF ANYBODY WOULD HAVE JUMPED THE CURB WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BIGGER MESS THAN IT WAS.
THAT WAS FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC SAFETY BARRIERS AND NOISE FOR 500 600 PROSPECT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED THAT.
THE PD HAD THREE UNITS AT BEACH CITIES TODAY.
WHEN THE OFFICERS LEFT, THEY DEMONSTRATED THE DYSFUNCTION OF THE BEACH CITIES EXIT ONTO PROSPECT.
ALL THREE OFFICERS BYPASSED THE MAIN BEACH CITIES EXIT.
THEY ALL CURVED CLOCKWISE, PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THE PARKING RAMP, EXITED THE FIVE EXIT BEHIND.
I ALSO ATTENDED THE BEACH CITIES PUBLIC MEETING LAST FRIDAY.
PER USUAL, 90% OF THE ROOM WAS EITHER AFFILIATED OR PAID BY BEACH CITIES.
THE OTHER 10% WERE THE ELECTEDS AND THE THREE OF US THAT WERE UNAFFILIATED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
WE REPRESENTED THE OTHER 119,900 DISTRICT RESIDENTS AS BEST WE COULD.
SO FOR MENTAL HEALTH REASONS, THEY NEED THEIR OWN BUILDING.
TRAFFIC IS MORE CONGESTED. ANY SIZABLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BY BEACH CITIES WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY THE ARTERIAL FOR SIX YEARS OR MORE, SO WE REALLY NEED THE CITY'S HELP IN GETTING THE INTERSECTION REDESIGNED AND ALSO PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE NO MORE ZOOM AND NO COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
OKAY, SO THAT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE NO ITEM K, L, OR M, SO WE'LL JUMP DOWN TO N, AND WE MOVED ITEM N.3 TO THE FRONT OF THE N.
[N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
SO WITH THAT WE'LL GO INTO N.3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN REPLACEMENT AND UPDATES ON THE FLAGS AND PENNANTS.JANE, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR. YES. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. JANE CHUNG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY, SIGN REPLACEMENT AND UPDATES TO CITY MAINTAINED FLAGS AND PENNANTS.
TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY.
I'LL PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THE GATEWAY SIGN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
PRESENT FINALIZED CONCEPTS FOR THE CITY FLAG AND PENNANTS.
AND THEN CONCLUDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SO ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT WITH STELLEN DESIGN, LLC AND THE CONTRACT SCOPE INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT OF UPDATED CONCEPTS FOR THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN, WHICH INCORPORATES THE NEW CITY LOGO. ON OCTOBER 7TH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE NEW CITY FLAG DESIGN,
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WHICH ALSO INCORPORATES THE NEW CITY LOGO. AND IT'S AT THAT MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO CONSULT STELLEN DESIGN, LLC ON THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS CONSIDERED MULTICOLOR PENNANTS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.SO TONIGHT, STAFF IS PRESENTING SEVEN DESIGN OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION FOR THE GATEWAY SIGN, AS WELL AS TO SHARE WITH YOU THE FINALIZED CITY FLAG AND PENNANT DESIGN CONCEPTS FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF THE ARCHED ILLUMINATED SIGN PANELS AND REPAINTING OF THE POLES AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE, WHICH ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET.
OPTION ONE. THIS CONCEPT RETAINS THE EXISTING TEXT AND THE FAMILIAR BLUE LOGO, SORRY BLUE COLOR FOR BOTH A SIGN FRAME AND LOWER PANEL OR LOWER SIGNAGE PANEL. HOWEVER, IT INTRODUCES A NEW FULL COLOR LOGO IN THE CENTER WITHIN THE RING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY.
THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS THE INCLUSION OF THE UPDATED CITY LOGO THAT HAS THE STATE AND THE CITY.
DESIGN OPTION THREE INCORPORATES THE OFFICIAL CITY BRANDING FONT STYLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, MAINTAINING THE EXISTING BLUE COLOR FOR BOTH THE SIGN FRAME AND THE LOWER SIGNAGE, AND THEN THE UPDATED CITY LOGO IS PRESENTED IN FULL COLOR WITHOUT A RING DESIGN.
OPTION FOUR IS SIMILAR TO OPTION THREE. THE DESIGN FEATURES THE CITY BRANDING FONT STYLE, BUT IN BLACK WITH THE BLUE SIGN FRAME AND LOWER SIGNAGE PANEL, AND THE FULL COLOR CITY LOGO IS ENCIRCLED BY THE RING.
DESIGN. OPTION FIVE FEATURES THE OFFICIAL CITY BRANDING FONT STYLE IN BLUE, WHILE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING BLUE COLOR FOR BOTH THE SIGN FRAME AND LOWER SIGNAGE, AND THE CITY LOGOS RENDERED ENTIRELY IN THE EXISTING COLOR BLUE AS WELL.
AND THEN DESIGN OPTION SIX APPLIES TO CITY BRANDING FONT STYLE IN THE DESIGNATED CITY BLUE, SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOR BOTH THE SIGN FRAME AND THE LOWER PANEL, AND THE CITY LOGO IS ALSO PRESENTED IN THAT NEW BRANDING, BLUE CITY BRANDING BLUE. DESIGN OPTION SEVEN FEATURES THE OFFICIAL CITY BRANDING, FONT STYLE, AND THE DESIGNATED CITY BRANDING BLUE FOR BOTH A SIGN FRAME AND THE LOWER SIGNAGE PANEL, AND THE UPDATED CITY LOGO IS DISPLAYED IN FULL COLOR.
OPTION EIGHT KEEPS THE CURRENT DESIGN AS IS, WITH THE LOWER SIGNAGE UPDATED AS PROPOSED IN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN OPTIONS, AND WE'LL GO OVER THE LANGUAGE IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE CURRENT PROPOSED WORDING INCLUDES PIER, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, SEASIDE, LAGOON AND MARINAS.
ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION MAY INCLUDE FISHERMAN'S WHARF, SPORTS FISHING, BOAT OR WATERCRAFT RENTALS. INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK TO NOTE TO MAINTAIN LEGIBILITY AND VISUAL BALANCE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED FORMAT FOLLOWS A LETTER FOR LETTER REPLACEMENT APPROACH TO ENSURE CONSISTENT SPACING, AS WELL AS WELL AS READABILITY WITHIN THE EXISTING SIGN DIMENSIONS.
ONCE A DESIGN IS APPROVED, STAFF WILL INITIATE THE BIDDING PROCESS TO SECURE QUALIFIED MANUFACTURER, FACTURE AND OR INSTALLER FOR THE ARCH ILLUMINATED SIGN PANELS, AS WELL AS A PAINTING CONTRACTOR FOR THE POLLS AND SUPPORTING STRUCTURE.
THE PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN EARLY 2026, WITH COMPLETION TARGETED FOR MID 2026.
THE CITY ALSO HAS PREPARED TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS FOR CONTRACTOR IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH MAY WHICH NOT MAY, WHICH WILL INCLUDE INTERMITTENT CLOSURES OF THE LEFT HAND TURN AT ANITA STREET AND PCH.
STELLAR DESIGN. ANITA. ANITA OR 190TH. [INAUDIBLE] STELLEN DESIGN LLC WILL REMAIN ACTIVELY INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, PROVIDING DESIGN OVERSIGHT AND REVIEWING PRODUCTION PROOFS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE SELECTED SIGN MANUFACTURER.
SO BEFORE WE LEAVE, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TRAFFIC.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'RE TALKING TRAFFIC.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO UNDER THE SIGN ON CATALINA.
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YES. BUT. BUT WITH SOME PERIODIC INTERRUPTION.DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE LEFT TURN OFF OF ANITA, IT'S ALSO THE TURN OFF OF PCH AND THE.
FOR THE MOST PART. YOU COULD STILL GO TO ANITA, TO PCH, DO THE THE HARD LEFT.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THE HARD LEFT AT CATALINA. YEAH. NOT THE.
YES YOU COULD. SO WE'RE TALKING THE ROAD UNDER THE.
MAYOR. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? INTO THE MICROPHONE.
OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. STAFF IS ALSO PLEASED TO PRESENT THE UPDATED CITY FLAG DESIGN, WHICH OPTIMIZES THE SIZE AND VISIBILITY OF THE CENTRAL LOGO. DESIGN ALSO INCLUDES MULTICOLORED PENNANTS INTENDED FOR INSTALLATION ALONG THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.
HOWEVER, THE ANTICIPATED COST FOR PURCHASING NEW CITY FLAGS, STATE FLAGS, MULTICOLORED PENNANTS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN WITHIN THE ORIGINAL $10,000 APPROPRIATED BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. TO CONCLUDE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON THE DESIGN SELECTION FOR THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN AND THE LOWER SIGN LANGUAGE.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED LIFE OF THIS SIGN ONCE WE PAINT IT? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE REPLACED THIS SIGN IN THE LAST, I THINK, DECADE.
OKAY. THANKS, MIKE. MY ONE CONCERN IS WHEN WE'RE PICKING THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE.
WE'LL BE STARTING THE BOAT RAMP BEFORE THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD IS UP.
AND THAT'S A KEY FUNCTION. SO, I MEAN, DOES STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO THE FUTURE BOAT RAMP? YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY ADD THE PHRASE BOAT LAUNCH IN THERE NOW.
AND IT WOULD BE EVEN GERMANE TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
ONE'S A HOIST. ONE WOULD BE A RAMP. BUT REPLACING THAT, THAT LITTLE BLUE THING AT THE BOTTOM ISN'T AS EXPENSIVE, IS IT, AS REPLACING THE WHOLE ARCHWAY? PRESUMABLY NOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT TO BE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE.
I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE, BUT. AND REPLACE THAT LINE OR YOU KNOW, MODIFY IT EVEN ON SITE.
I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT I THINK. IF WE USE BOAT LAUNCH, THEN WE COULD RECOVER TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE? YEAH. OKAY, THANKS. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.
ALL RIGHT. SO I POSTED THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA JUST TO GET FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS, AND IT GOT A LOT MORE VIEWS THAN I EVER ANTICIPATED, ESPECIALLY FOR A STILL IMAGE. IT GOT ABOUT AT LAST COUNT.
I FORGET WHAT I TOLD YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, BUT GOT ABOUT 97,000 VIEWS BECAUSE IT WAS.
YES, ON FACEBOOK. IT WAS SHARED 19 TIMES AND POTENTIALLY SHARED FROM THERE.
WITH THAT SAID, THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT RESPONSE IS SUPPORTIVE.
WHERE THERE WAS VITRIOLIC NEGATIVITY WAS TOWARDS THE REMOVAL OF SPORT FISHING.
I DECIDED BECAUSE A GUY NAMED JOHN MARKEY, WHO IS A PART OWNER OF THE REDONDO SPECIAL, WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH HIM AT USC, AND HE WROTE IN ACTUALLY A COMMENT HERE THAT WE SEE IN THE ECOMMENTS A VERY ENLIGHTENED ONE.
COUNTY. AS A RESULT, A LOT OF NUTRIENTS COME UP FROM THE VALLEY AND FEED THE FISH.
IN ADDITION, THE HOT WATER COMING OUT FROM THE POWER PLANT ALSO ATTRACTED DIFFERENT FISH.
SO WE ENDED UP WITH A LOT OF IN OUR HARBOR, BIG FISH AND SMALL FISH.
THAT WAS WAS A CAUSE FOR A LOT OF FISHING TO OCCUR HERE.
BUT I ALSO BECAUSE I WALK AROUND THE PIER A LOT.
MY DAUGHTER'S DOWN AT THE DAYCARE DOWN THERE.
JUST SAW LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE, ON A RANDOM WEEKDAY, THE WHOLE PLACE IS EMPTY, EXCEPT FOR THE FISHERMAN'S WHARF IS FILLED WITH PEOPLE FISHING THERE. SO I WOULD BE INCLINED, AND I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP SPORT FISHING ON THERE, AND I'M HAPPY TO TINKER WITH THE REST OF THE WITH THE
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REST OF THE WORDS. MAYBE YOU'VE DROPPED SOMETHING. MAYBE IT'S MARINAS.I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO DROP SOMETHING, BUT I AGREE WITH CONVERTING.
BUT WAS THERE WAS THERE A REASON YOU ALL CHOSE THE WORDS THAT YOU DID HERE? DO YOU WANT TO? I THINK THAT THE GENERAL PREMISE WAS TO CAPTURE, IN THE BROADEST SENSE, WHAT ONE WOULD EXPERIENCE IN THE WATERFRONT.
AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT WITH PIERS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, LAGOON BEING A UNIQUE FEATURE THAT CITY CONTROLLED AND THEN OF COURSE, MARINA. SO CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO ADD MORE. SPORT FISHING IS NOT A BAD ONE.
CERTAINLY BOAT LAUNCH IS NOT A BAD ONE. THE QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD WE LOSE IN EXCHANGE FOR THOSE ADDITIONS? I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME EXACT THING [LAUGHS]. AND JUST AS FAR AS DESIGN GOES, I THINK I'D PREFER AND THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS AROUND NUMBERS USING OUR LOGO BIG WITHOUT THE REDONDO BEACH AROUND IT.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK JANE, PLEASE, TO THE THREE OPTIONS.
YEAH. SO THREE, THREE AND SEVEN WERE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THE MOST.
NOT REALIZING NECESSARILY THAT THE BLUE IS DIFFERENT IN THREE AND SEVEN.
I WOULD THINK THAT WE'D WANT TO GO WITH THE ONE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR BRAND COLOR.
ON THE IMAGES IN OUR AGENDA PACKET, THIS SEEMED A LITTLE THE FONT SEEMED A LITTLE THIN.
SO THERE WAS A RECOMMEND. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY REQUESTED MAYBE ADD SOME WEIGHT TO THE FONT.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT OR IF WE WANT TO DO THAT BY KEEPING THE FONT STYLE THE SAME, NOT REVERTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL FONT. BUT THIS LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS I CAN WORK. SO NO. NO LIFE RING AROUND IT.
JUST THE LOGO. JUST THE LOGO I THINK IS A LOT MORE POWERFUL AND STANDS OUT.
YEAH. AND THE REDONDO BEACH, IF WE PUT IT ON THE OUTSIDE, THAT'S REDUNDANT. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S A REDONDO BEACH. REDONDO BEACH. IT'S SO SMALL. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S LOGICAL. SO, SO NUMBER SEVEN AND THAT'S THE BRAND.
THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR NEW BRAND. BLUE. CORRECT.
IT'S HARD TO TELL. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME. SO YOU'RE SAYING SEVEN, BUT WITH A THICKENED FONT, PERHAPS. I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. IF WE COULD DO THAT AND I AGREE, IT DOES LOOK A LITTLE.
AND IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY IS HARD ON ON KEEPING THE OLD FONT, I'M PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT TOO.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, LET'S FRESHEN UP THE WHOLE THING.
YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE OLD FONT UNLESS THERE'S STRONG REACTION TO IT.
KEEPING THE OLD FONT WOULD AT LEAST ANCHOR SOME SEMBLANCE OF THE PIER IN WHAT'S THERE NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, SO THAT AND IT IS A LITTLE THICKER.
SO THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT OF STICKING WITH THE CURRENT FONT.
I'M NOT FEELING STRONG ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THAT.
[INAUDIBLE]. OKAY. LET'S SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
ON THE OPTIONS FOR THE SIGN. STRONG CHOICE NUMBER SEVEN.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO TWEAK FONTS ALL THAT, AS LONG AS OUR DESIGNER, WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL AT THIS IS GOOD WITH THAT, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WHICHEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY ARE GOOD WITH.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A, I'M NOT A GRAPHIC DESIGNER, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT PART OF IT.
SO IF THE FONT HAS TO GET TWEAKED, THE FONT GETS TWEAKED. WHATEVER IS FINE ON THE FONT I'M GOOD WITH, BUT KEEPING OUR BRAND COLORS, OUR BRAND FONT I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
OUR LOGO AS BIG AS POSSIBLE IS IMPORTANT. I ALSO AGREE THAT SPORT FISHING AND MAYBE BOAT LAUNCH ARE IMPORTANT AND COULD POTENTIALLY REPLACE SEASIDE LAGOON AND MARINAS.
EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT SEASIDE LAGOON THAT IS GOING TO SEASIDE LAGOON.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NECESSARILY PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING DOWN THE GO, OH, REDONDO BEACH HAS SEASIDE LAGOON LET'S GO THERE, AS OPPOSED TO THERE'S A PIER, THERE'S HOTELS, THERE'S RESTAURANTS, THERE'S SPORT FISHING, THERE'S A BOAT LAUNCH. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ATTRACT MORE THAN.
I DIDN'T DO THE EXACT COUNT ON LETTERS, BUT IT'S NOT TOO FAR OFF.
SEASIDE LAGOON AND MARINAS WITH SPORT FISHING AND BOAT LAUNCH ARE KIND OF CLOSE.
BUT DEFINITELY KEEPING IT KEEPING IT BRAND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING OUR BRAND AS DESIGNED.
WE SPENT TIME AND MONEY ON THAT. WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
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AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS.YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE MONEY FOR THE CITY AND THINGS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GENERAL MAINTENANCE.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, THE LIFETIME IS ABOUT TEN YEARS.
WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS WHETHER WE KEPT THE SAME LOOK AS OR NOT.
SO WE WERE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO PAINT THE STRUCTURE.
SO COUNCIL DECIDED TO ADD THE LOGO AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE TAKING SOMETHING THAT IS PERFECTLY GOOD.
WE'RE DOING MAINTENANCE HERE. JUST WANTED TO LET TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR MY COMMENTS ON THIS.
YES. OKAY, THANKS. DO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE WORDS BELOW THE SIGN TONIGHT TO TO KEEP PROGRESS GOING? OR CAN WE KEEP PROGRESS GOING? PICK A BASIC DESIGN AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN KIND OF FINALIZE THOSE BOTTOM WORDS.
WELL, WE CAN GET THE SIGN ORDERING GOING WITH THE WITH THE DIRECTION YOU'VE GIVEN US.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S. WHAT IF YOU COULD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OPINIONS YOU WANT TO SHARE? WELL, WE GOT MORE PEOPLE. I'M JUST ASKING. YEAH.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. DONE. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF NUMBER SEVEN BECAUSE THAT FITS WITH OUR NEW LOGO THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF THE COLOR SCHEME AND THE LOGO. THE FONT AS WELL, I THINK IS PART OF OUR NEW LOOK IN TERMS OF OUR CITY LOGO THAT'S ON THE FLAG.
SO I THINK HAVING THAT FONT CONSISTENT TO WHAT'S IN USE AROUND THE CITY IS IMPORTANT.
DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THE, I LIKE THE WORDS THAT ARE THERE.
NOW. MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW THERE'S A HISTORY OF SPORT FISHING.
AND I THINK THE BOAT LAUNCH WOULD SORT OF FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF MARINA BECAUSE PEOPLE COMING TO THE BOAT LAUNCH WOULD KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THE BOAT LAUNCH WAS, WOULD BE IS IN THE MARINA. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE INSTEAD OF RESTAURANTS, SPORT FISHING, IF THAT STILL FITS. BUT YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF USING IT AS AN UPDATED MARQUEE FOR THE WATERFRONT TO GET MORE ATTRACTIONS DOWN THERE, I THINK LETTING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT IS EXACTLY THERE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO GO TO RESTAURANTS AND SPORT FISHING. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M FLEXIBLE ON THAT, ON THAT LANGUAGE.
THAT NUMBER SEVEN HAS LESS CHARACTERS. SO WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE WORDS. I MEAN, WOULD YOU SAY REPLACE SPORT FISH? I MEAN RESTAURANTS WITH SPORTS FISHING? YOU DON'T NEED TO, YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TO REPLACE ANYTHING. WE COULD PUT FOOD INSTEAD OF RESTAURANTS.
LOOK HOW COMPACTED NUMBER EIGHT THE FONT IS DOWN THERE VERSUS NUMBER SEVEN.
SO THERE'S IF I SHARE MY SCREEN. GREAT.
YEAH. GO FOR IT. MAYOR. WHILE HE'S DOING THAT.
GO AHEAD COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. DID STELLA AND THIS IS FOR JANE.
DID STELLEN PREPARE THESE DESIGNS? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IS SHE AVAILABLE NOW? IS SHE ON THE PHONE? NOT AVAILABLE. NO. NOT AVAILABLE. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? NOT TONIGHT. SHE'S NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT. OKAY.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO CAME UP. SHE'S BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL.
I MEAN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LOGO. SHE WAS VERY CAREFUL, VERY THOUGHTFUL.
HAD PRETTY MUCH THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING AND HAD A REASON FOR IT.
AND I ASKED THAT BECAUSE. OR MAYBE A REASON WHY, EVEN THOUGH MORE WORDS COULD FIT HERE.
SHE'S PROPOSING. THIS IS IT. AND SO THERE IS SORT OF A LEVEL OF DEFERENCE TO OUR PROFESSIONAL WHO TOOK OUR INPUT AND UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE GOING, AND HAS UNDOUBTEDLY DONE RESEARCH FOR THOSE WHO KNOW HER WORK.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORDS WE HAVE NOW.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE, I'LL JUST SAY, REVENUE GENERATORS FOR THE CITY.
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IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY ALL THE TIME. BUT CHOOSING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS IS IMPORTANT.WE HAVE RESTAURANTS. PEOPLE DRIVE BY ON WHAT IS AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY, AS WE KNOW, ESSENTIALLY.
WE HAVE A NEW SEASIDE LAGOON, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING POTENTIALLY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HOTELS, THE PIER, THE HORSESHOE PIER, AND I, I THINK IT WAS SUGGESTED EARLIER.
MARINAS IS GENERIC. I MEAN, MARINAS MEANS A LOT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOAT RAMP. YOU CAN'T DO FISHING OFF THE PIER.
SO, LONG STORY SHORT, I. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORDS WE HAVE IN NUMBER SEVEN.
IN THE LOWER SIGN. I'M GOOD WITH THE FONT. IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT OPTION THAT JORDIS HAS RECOMMENDED, STELLEN DESIGN HAS RECOMMENDED.
I'M OPEN TO IT. I DO THINK I THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN SUGGESTING WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I COULD ADD ONE THING TO THAT, MAYOR, I. I'LL HAVE JANE CONFIRM THIS. I DO THINK TO COUNCILMEMBER BEHRENDT'S POINT THAT JORDIS DID THINK THROUGH THE VISUAL EFFECT OF THE SPACING AND SIZE OF THE NUMBER OF CHARACTERS AND WORDS THAT WE HAVE AT THAT LOWER PORTAL NOW, I IMAGINE THAT WAS DONE WITH SOME INTENTION. ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, JANE? IS THAT WHY SHE IS SO? WHY SHE SUGGESTED THAT THERE BE A LIKE FOR LIKE, REPLACEMENT? BECAUSE SHE THINKS THIS IS THE OPTIMAL SPACING? YEAH. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IN SPEAKING WITH BOTH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IT'S CAPTURING KIND OF MORE OF THE AMENITIES AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THERE IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS MAKING THE VISIBILITY OF THOSE AMENITIES MORE SO CLEARER TO THE KIND OF THE AVERAGE DRIVER WHO'S GOING DOWN PCH OR ALONG 190TH ANITA AREA.
SO I HAVE A BIT OF A DIFFERENT OPINION THERE.
I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, MARINAS AT, MARINAS AND BOAT LAUNCHES ARE TYPICALLY SEPARATE ENTERPRISES.
IN FACT, IT'S BOAT LAUNCHES USUALLY AREN'T TIED TO A MARINA.
THEY'RE TIED TO A HARBOR. AND I DO THINK SPORT FISHING IS A KEY THING, NOT JUST FROM THE PIER, BUT WE HAVE SPORT FISHING, COMMERCIAL VESSELS THAT ARE GOING OUT ALL THE TIME AND DO GENERATE REVENUE AND DO DRAW PEOPLE HERE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO JUST DRIVE INTO REDONDO AND GO, OH, HEY, LET'S GO LOOK AT MARINA.
SO YOU KNOW, I LIKE DROPPING PORTOFINO AND PUTTING THE GENERIC HOTELS.
I THINK IF WE WANTED TO SHORTEN IT, RESTAURANTS COULD BE FOOD.
I THINK SPORT FISHING IS IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THE ABILITY TO LAUNCH BOATS IS AN IMPORTANT THING.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
YOU WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING. SO. SO APPRECIATING WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. NUMBER SEVEN. THE SPACING IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, SO I DO THINK THAT FEWER WORDS IS PROBABLY A GOOD A GOOD THING HERE.
SOMETIMES WE CALL IT THE LAGOON. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH. I MEAN, SO WHAT I'M THINKING IS EITHER OF THESE TWO ARE POTENTIALLY OPTIONAL.
COULD BE TRUNCATED OFF. RIGHT. JUST TO SAVE SPACE.
THE MARINA I AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. EVERYBODY KNOWS MARINA THERE.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW YEAH, WE DON'T NEED THE SIGN TO ADVERTISE IT PER SE.
LAGOON BOAT LAUNCH. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DRIVE DOWN HERE WITH A BOAT NOT KNOWING.
YEAH NOT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A BOAT LAUNCH TOO.
PIER, I THINK IS PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN MARINA BECAUSE PEOPLE DO GO, YOU KNOW, CHASING PIERS.
SO IF WE IF WE GO DOWN TO THIS WORD COUNT 60 SPACES I FORGET HOW MANY ARE ON THIS. JUST COUNT HOW MANY ARE ON THE CURRENT.
THERE'S FOOD ON THE WHARF. THERE ARE RESTAURANTS OUTSIDE.
DINING? SURE. DINING IF WE NEED TO SAVE A CHARACTER, DINING.
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BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T NEED TO SAVE CHARACTERS. WELL, YEAH, YOU COULD SAVE CHARACTERS FROM HERE.NO, BUT DO WE NEED TO. THIS IS THE QUESTION. YES.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WITH THE SPACE, THE SPACES COUNT THE SPACES.
RIGHT. SO INCLUDING SPACES, ABOUT 50 CHARACTERS, EMPTY SPACES AT THE FRONT OR ENDS OF EACH OF THE RIGHT BETWEEN THOSE DINING WOULD REDUCE A LITTLE BIT.
HOTELS SEASIDE LAGOON PIER. I MEAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE PRETTY GOOD.
I MEAN, I WOULD PUT PIER FIRST, JUST THAT'S THE BIGGEST.
YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
WHAT THEY'RE GOING DOWN THERE. PIER SPORT FISHING.
DINING. YEAH. IF I MAY MAKE A QUICK COMMENT WHILE YOU DO THAT.
SO MAYBE WE CAN PROVIDE THIS TO JORDAN. HAVE HER.
JORDIS. THANK YOU. HAVE HER HERE TO REVIEW AND MAYBE EXPLAIN AND GIVE INPUT.
SO CAN WE DO THAT ON THE 18TH OF THIS MONTH? TAKE WHAT WE PROVIDE TONIGHT.
MAYBE DO AN OPTION EIGHT OR AN OPTION NINE. BECAUSE WE'RE FOR THE REASON I JUST SAID.
WE'RE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS. AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR BEFORE WE SAY ROLL IT OUT.
SURE. I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AND SO FAR AS LET'S CHOOSE THE DESIGN, IF THAT'S SEVEN THAT WE'RE ALL GRAVITATING TOWARDS, SUBMIT A PROPOSED PHRASE. THIS ONE GETS IT DOWN TO AND THEN BLUE FOLDER OR SORRY, PUT ON CONSENT THE FINAL SUB DESIGN FOR US.
WE CAN PULL IT. IF WE DISAGREE WITH IT, WE CAN DO THAT.
AND WE CAN CONFIRM WITH JORDIS THAT SHE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THE SPACING AND SELECTION.
I MEAN, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE IF WE COULD PUT THAT BACK UP THE REGULAR POWERPOINT.
YEAH. NUMBER SEVEN WITH. SO WE'RE WE'RE ARE WE GOOD WITH THE RECOMMENDED FONT HERE. THAT'S I THINK THE FIRST THING REDONDO BEACH KING CARVER FONT.
YES. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT COUNCIL FONT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WEIGHT TO IT, BUT I WOULD NOT. SO. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING IS WE WE WOULD POINT THIS TO HER, WE WOULD DO THE UPDATED WORDING YOU ALL JUST COALESCED AROUND, AND THEN WE WOULD CONFIRM WITH HER THAT SHE FEELS THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH HER EXPERT OPINION ON PRESENTATION, ARTICULATION, READABILITY, ETC.
IF THE ANSWER FROM HER IS YES, BINGO LOOKS GOOD, I WILL PUT IT ON HIS CONSENT.
IF THE ANSWER FROM HER IS NO, WE THINK YOU KNOW.
THIS LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. DOES SHE ADD WEIGHT TO THIS RELATIVE TO WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET OR.
THIS IS STRAIGHT. NO, I THINK SHE'S JUST USING THE FONT. THE SAME EXACT SAME ONE.
YEAH. IT'S HER PREFERRED I THINK IT'S HER PREFERRED FONT. CORRECT. OKAY. UNDER THAT PROPOSAL, IF JORDIS HAS SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIVE TO SAY, IF IT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS REQUIRES AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY WE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE SPORT FISHING OR PIER. OH, ABSOLUTELY. HOW DO WE DO THAT IF IT'S ON CONSENT? WELL WE WOULD. WE'LL TAKE HER THOUGHTS. IT WILL EMBED IT IN THE ADMIN REPORT IF IT'S A CONCERN.
AND IF IT'S A SUBSTANTIVE CONCERN, IT REQUIRES DISCUSSION. WE WON'T PUT IT ON CONSENT. WE'LL PUT IT ON A DISCUSSION CALENDAR. I DON'T, JORDIS DIDN'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ABOUT THE WORDS IN THE WORDS THEMSELVES.
SHE'S LEAVING THAT MORE TO US. SHE WAS, I THINK, MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE HOW THE READABILITY OF THE WORDS FROM PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY AND HOW THEY'RE FORMATTED IN COMPARISON TO THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE SIGN.
I DON'T THINK SHE CARED ABOUT THE TERMS THEMSELVES TO BE.
AGAIN, PLEASE. SO THIS IS DOWN TO 56 CHARACTERS, WHICH IS JUST OVER 50 CHARACTERS.
PIER. HOTELS. DINING SEASIDE LAGOON SPORT FISHING.
SPORT FISHING IS ONE WORD AND THEN YOU SAVE A CHARACTER.
I LOOKED AT THAT. I THINK IT'S TWO WORDS. SO I HOPE THAT MADE SENSE.
JORDAN REALLY LEFT THE TERMS UP TO STAFF. SHE DIDN'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON TERMS. YEAH. IS COUNCIL OKAY WITH THAT PHRASEOLOGY? I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT GOT A GRIEVANCE WITH ONE, BUT NO GRIEVANCE. I LIKE RESTAURANTS, IT'S MORE FORMAL.
IT'S MORE DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, DINING COULD BE A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS I LIKE.
I PERSONALLY LIKE RESTAURANTS, TOO. I THINK IT'S A MORE ENCOMPASSING TERM WITH THAT NUMBER THAT TAKES US UP TO DINING WAS WHAT SIX? VERSUS RESTAURANTS? THAT'S 61. YEAH I THINK I MEAN I PREFER RESTAURANTS AS WELL.
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AND IT FITS. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE OUR PREFERRED AND THEN WE DEFER TO JORDIS TO GIVE HER PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON IT.I DO HAVE. BARS. BEER. [LAUGHS] I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE GROUP.
AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SO. OH CAN YOU PUT UP THE OPTIONS, PLEASE? THE PRESENTATION. JUST AS LIKE WE'RE GOING WITH OUR BRANDING, OUR NEW LOGO.
I, I'M IN FOR ALL OF THAT. I WONDER IF BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THESE CHANGES HERE.
READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS, DO WE DO A NOD TO THE THE OLD SIGN THAT HAS THE RING AROUND IT OR.
NO, I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH EITHER. I'M JUST SAYING, AS A NOD TO THE OLD SIGN, I MY OPINION ON THAT PART WOULD BE THAT THE NOD TO THE SORT OF TRADITION OF REDONDO BEACH IS THE SIGN ITSELF.
SO THE ARCHWAY SIGN WE'RE UPDATING, REFRESHING IT WITH OUR LOGO THAT WE'VE SELECTED AND THE FONT THAT WE'RE WRITING, REDONDO BEACH. KING HARBOR IS PART OF OUR OVERALL LOGO THAT WE HAVE ON THE FLAG, SO THAT'S CONSISTENT.
BUT THE ACTUAL ARCH ITSELF IS PART OF OUR HISTORY.
OKAY. SO JUST JUST AN ANECDOTE. I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LIFE RING.
AND SECOND, WHEN I JUST TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM KNEW.
I DON'T THINK ONE PERSON GOT IT RIGHT WHAT WAS IN THE CENTER OF THAT, THAT THING.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM THOUGHT IT WAS OUR OLD, YOU KNOW.
AND IT'S NOT ANY OF THAT. SO I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE EVEN REALIZE WHAT'S ON THAT CENTER THING.
I THINK THAT'S THE LEVEL. NOW, THERE WERE PEOPLE ONLINE THAT SAID, KEEP IT EXACTLY THE SAME.
IT'S TRADITION. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST, UP AGAINST IN THE DECISION HERE.
THIS ISN'T JUST TO MAKE IT PRETTIER. YES, IT NEEDS MAINTENANCE. BUT WHAT WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM AS WE BROUGHT PEOPLE IN, YOU KNOW, TO REFRESH OUR WATERFRONT AND INVEST IN OUR WATERFRONT AND THE LIKE WAS REDONDO BEACH DOESN'T HAVE CONSISTENT BRANDING.
AND SO THAT WAS COUNCIL'S MANDATE WAS HEY, BRAND REDONDO, REDONDO.
AND WHETHER YOU WHETHER YOU LIKE THE NEW LOGO OR NOT, WHICH THE VAST MAJORITY DO, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE IT EVERYWHERE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING POSITIVE REACTIONS TO IT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS AN EFFORT TOWARDS, IS TO CONTINUE TO GET INVESTMENT IN REDONDO BEACH BY BRANDING REDONDO BEACH IN THE MOST VISIBLE PLACES, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE AS WELL. THAT'S ALL.
OKAY, SO YOU HAVE SOME DIRECTION. WE DON'T NEED A RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW.
NO NO NO NO WE DON'T. SO WHAT I'VE GOT IS WE'VE GOT THOSE WORDS.
THOSE 63 CHARACTERS, I THINK WAS THE COUNT. YEAH.
61. 61 CHARACTERS WILL CONFIRM WITH JORDIS THAT SHE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT LEVEL OF SPACING, SLASH CROWDING, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
AND AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE THINNER FONT OR DO YOU WANT US TO ASK JORDAN IF THERE'S A THICKER VERSION OF THAT THAT ALSO WORKS? JUST ASK HER OPINION IS I THINK IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
YES. LOOKS GOOD. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S HER OPINION, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE LOOK TO THE FLAGS WHEN YOU SEE REDONDO BEACH AROUND THE LOGO, THAT'S OUR FONT.
SO BASICALLY MAKE THE REDONDO INSTEAD OF A CIRCLE, MAKE IT THE ARCH.
I WOULD ASK HER THAT QUESTION. SO AND THEN ARE WE SET ON THE ORDER OF THE WORDS OR IF JORDIS WANTS TO LIKE SAY THAT VISUALLY THIS IS EASIER TO READ. SHE CAN MOVE AROUND. GO FOR IT.
OKAY, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. YEAH? YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
LET'S LET'S TAKE PUBLIC INPUT IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
OKAY. I HAVE ONE CARD CALLER, AND THEN THAT'S IT FROM CARD PERSPECTIVE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, LEE CALLER, DISTRICT THREE.
AND ALSO HARBOR COMMISSIONER. FIRST THING I FIND INTERESTING IS THAT WHILE THIS SIGN IS NOT IN THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S AREA, EVERYTHING IS ADVERTISED ON. THE SIGN IS IN THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S AREA.
AND SO THE HARBOR COMMISSION HASN'T ADDRESSED THIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION ON THIS LOOKING AT THIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR YOU COME UP AND SAY YES WHEN YOU PUT SPORT FISHING ON THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ACTIVITIES THAT PEOPLE SEE IN THE HARBOR THAT THEY MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT DRIVING DOWN PCH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DECIDE REALLY SHOULD DO IS PEOPLE ARE DRIVING DOWN PCH,
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GO, OH, WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THERE. I CAN DO THAT HERE.RESTAURANTS? YES. MARINAS. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.
MARINA IS BASICALLY AN APARTMENT BUILDING FOR BOATS. IT'S REALLY THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
IF SOMEBODY SOMEBODY'S GOT A BOAT, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MARINA.
THEY KNOW WHERE REDONDO BEACH IS, MARINA DEL REY IS.
THEY KNOW ALL UP AND DOWN THE COAST BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING A MARINA. WE DON'T NEED TO PUT MARINA ON THE SIGN, AND IT'S LIKELY TO CONFUSE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T BOATERS. THAT MIGHT THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE, OH, I CAN GO THERE AND OH, THERE'S A BOAT RAMP THERE WHICH, LATER AGENDA ITEM OR YOU KNOW, I CAN GO DOWN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS HUGE, YOU KNOW, VAST ARRAY OF BOATS THAT I CAN JUST GO OUT AND PLAY WITH.
I THINK WE'RE WITH WHAT'S BEEN DECIDED HERE. WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING RIGHT THERE.
THE PADDLE BOATS, KAYAKS, STAND UP PADDLE BOARDS, A COUPLE DUFFY'S.
IF THERE WAS A WAY TO INCLUDE THAT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE COST IS TO THE ACTUAL DESIGN.
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY ASKS MY OPINION DESIGN, I PICK SOMETHING.
EVERYBODY TELLS ME I'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG, SO I'M NOT EVEN GIVING MY OPINION ON THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE WORDING GOES, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON THE RIGHT TRACK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF, MARK HANSEN KING, HARBOR BOATER.
I LIKE THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE GOING WITH A LOT OF THE BASIC STUFF.
THE MOST SIMPLE LOGO IN THE MIDDLE MAKES SENSE TO ME.
THE MODERN FONT VERSUS THE OLD FONT. I REALIZE YOU COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THAT, BUT AS I ANALYZED IT, I THOUGHT, WELL, THE I THINK I THINK MAYBE COUNCILMAN BEHRENDT MENTIONED THE TIE IN TO THE PIER, WHICH IS OBVIOUS, YET THE PIER LOOKS OLD SCHOOL.
BUT THE NEW STUFF WE'RE DOING IN THE HARBOR, NOTABLY CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB, THE NORTH NORTH GRILL, THE CANTINA REMODEL, ALL THAT STUFF IS MORE CONTEMPORARY.
SO IF I HAVE TO FLIP MY COIN ON THAT ONE, I KIND OF GO WITH THE FUTURE OF THE CLEANER FONT.
ALSO OBVIOUSLY EASIER TO READ. THE CLEANER THE FONT IS.
AND OBVIOUSLY I THINK EVERYBODY SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THICKENING UP WOULD HELP THAT.
SO NOW TO THE BANNER DOWN BELOW. STRONGLY RECOMMEND LOOKING AT INCLUDING THE BOAT LAUNCH.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE FOR 65 YEARS WITHOUT A BOAT LAUNCH.
OKAY. SO EVERYBODY WHO DRIVES BY AT THIS POINT IS JUST ASSUMES, WELL, NO, THIS IS A WEIRD HARBOR, DOESN'T HAVE A BOAT LAUNCH. NOW WE'RE SUDDENLY GOING TO FINALLY HAVE ONE. THAT'S A WONDERFUL ADVERTISEMENT.
NOW, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DRIVING BY ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, LOOK AT THE NEW SIGN.
SO I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL ADVERTISEMENT. I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO PUT IN HARBOR SPECIFIC THINGS YOU CAN DO ON THAT, ON THAT SIGN. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK GETTING THAT WITH FISHING BACK IN THERE SOMEHOW, WHETHER IT'S SPORT FISHING, YOU COULD TAKE THE WORD OFF SPORT AND JUST HAVE FISHING.
BUT I THINK THAT WORD FISHING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SHOULD BE IN THERE.
THAT'S REALLY NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO PUT ON THE SIGN, ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE WHEN I GO INTO ALL THE HARBORS I GO TO, YOU KNOW, I DO ENJOY ALL THE RESTAURANTS I'M GOING TO.
SO IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THOSE TWO, I COULD EASILY DUMP HOTELS.
EVERYBODY GOT A HOTEL. IT'S NOTHING PARTICULARLY UNIQUE.
THE PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT ARE GOING TO FIND THEIR HOTEL, BUT I KIND OF LIKE THE RESTAURANT THING.
IF WE CAN FIT IT IN JUST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I USE.
AND THE BOAT RENTALS, THAT'S A GREAT ONE TO THINK ABOUT.
IF WE COULD FIT IT IN AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS UNIQUE TO THE HARBOR.
SO OVERALL, YOU CAN SEE MY THING IS I'M SAYING LET'S PUT STUFF UP THERE UNIQUE TO OUR HARBOR.
NOT SOMETHING YOU COULD JUST HAVE ANYWHERE. THANKS, THANKS.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. I HAVE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM, AND WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE OPPOSED M3.
OPPOSE? YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR ECOMMENTS. OKAY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS. IT'S A TOUGH CALL. WHAT TO PUT BELOW.
THERE'S WHALE WATCHING, THERE'S SUP RENTALS, THERE'S KAYAK LAUNCHERS, THERE'S OUTRIGGER CANOEING.
I MEAN, WE COULD GO ON AND ON AND. YEAH, OPEN WATER, WATER POLO ONCE IN A WHILE.
SO IT'S A TOUGH CALL WHAT TO PUT IN THERE. SO I THINK WE'RE HEADED ON THE RIGHT TRACK I AGREE.
MAYBE WE COULD SHORTEN SPORT FISHING TO FISHING AND MAYBE PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, TOUGH TO DO THIS BY COMMITTEE. SO I DO THINK THOUGH, I THINK FOOD IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE OUR PEER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PEERS UP AND DOWN THE COAST, AND THAT THERE IS DINING ON IT AND RESTAURANTS ON IT.
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THAT'S UNIQUE. YOU KNOW, THE HERMOSA, MANHATTAN, VENICE, THOSE, THOSE PEERS ARE JUST WALK OUT, MAYBE DO SOME FISHING AND WALK BACK, MAYBE SOME BENCHES.SO WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE PIER. AND SO I THINK CALLING OUT DINING ON THAT IS, IS APPROPRIATE.
SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER INPUTS BASED ON YOU GUYS STILL HAVE YOUR HANDS UP OR.
SO MAYBE ON THE NEXT REFRESH WHEN WE REPLACE BECAUSE WE CAN REPLACE THE BOTTOM BANNER, ADDING THE RAMP AT THAT POINT MIGHT BE YEAH, YEAH. NO YOU'RE RIGHT. THE TIMING. I MEAN, AFTER ENTITLEMENT, CONSTRUCTION, BIDDING AND THE LIKE, IT WILL BE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. YEAH. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST UNDER ADVERTISED THINGS PROBABLY A HAND LAUNCH, BUT WE CAN'T PUT HAND LAUNCH BOAT RAMP. I MEAN, THE RENTAL, THE WHOLE BOTTOM OF THE.
BOAT RENTALS IS. YEAH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING. MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE A DROP DOWN MENU.
LET'S JUST DO A QR CODE [LAUGHS]. JUST MAKE THE SIGN IN THE MIDDLE.
LET'S PUT A DIGITAL SIGN AND HAVE IT SCROLL ACROSSWE HOPEFULLY, IF YOU'RE REALLY INTRIGUED, THIS IS ENOUGH TO GET YOU TO A WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SORT IT OUT FROM THERE. I DON'T KNOW, WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER MARQUEES DOWN IN THE WATERFRONT THAT WE CAN WORK ON, AND THAT'S TRUE.
THREE TO ADD MORE INFORMATION TO THOSE DIRECTORIES AND OR KIOSKS.
RIGHT. EVENTUALLY. SOON. OKAY. ANY CHANGES? NO CHANGES.
JUST AN INPUT FOR US TO CONSIDER. RECREATION TO PICK UP.
I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING MORE DIRECT. RECREATION.
WATER. RECREATION. JUST AN IDEA. YEAH. TO CAPTURE SEASIDE LAGOON.
RECREATION OF SOME TYPE. FISHING. RECREATION.
RENTALS. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE.
OKAY. OKAY, WE'VE GOT OUR. WE'VE GOT SEVEN. WE'LL INQUIRE ABOUT THICKER FONT.
WE'LL SEE IF THIS NUMBER OF CHARACTERS IS DESIGNABLE.
YEAH. IS, YOU KNOW, IS ACCEPTABLE TO OUR EXPERT.
AND IF IT IS, IT'LL COME BACK AS A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM WITH THOSE ITERATIONS.
THANK YOU. ONE THING I DID NOTE OF INTEREST, AND I'M NOT ASKING ANY CHANGES, IS, YOU KNOW, IF THE FONT UNDERNEATH THE SIGN AND THE LITTLE BANNER DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE SAME FONT AS THE LOGO.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE SHE INTENTIONALLY CHOSE DIFFERENT FONT THERE, WHICH SURPRISED ME.
BUT SHE'S THE GRAPHIC ARTIST. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH.
WHILE THE TEAM HERE IS QUEUING UP. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU NOTED THIS.
WE DID CIRCULATE VERY CLEARLY IN THE BLUE FOLDER OPTION E, IT WAS BURIED PRETTY DEEP IN THE PACKET.
WE HAD SOME INQUIRIES ABOUT WHERE CAN I FIND OPTION E.
SO LOOKING FOR WHAT CHANGED? YEAH. WITH THAT, WITH THAT OBSERVATION I TALKED TO GREG YESTERDAY.
HE'S LIKE OKAY, LET'S LET'S MAKE IT VERY PLAIN IN THE BLUE FOLDER. WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO WHEN WE SAY OPTION, IT'S CLEARLY GOING TO BE PART OF OUR [INAUDIBLE] BUT IT'S IDENTICAL TO WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE PACKET CORRECT. YES. YES IT IS.
IT IS. IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M COMPARING I'M GOING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO YEAH. WITH THAT, GREG, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT AWAY? THANK YOU. GREG KAPOVICH WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. I'VE GOT DAVID CHAROBEE HERE.
HE'S OUR SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST. HE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION, STARTING WITH, YOU KNOW HOW WE PLAN TO PAY FOR THIS BOAT LAUNCH THE STEPS THAT ARE NECESSARY, THE TIME FRAME ASSOCIATED WITH THESE STEPS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU FROM TONIGHT IN TERMS OF DIRECTION, I ALSO HAVE CATHERINE HERE.
CATHERINE BUCK, SHE'S THE WATERFRONT MANAGER.
ALL OF US ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT WITH MOFFATT AND NICHOL, JERRY HOLCOMB. HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, BUT WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DAVE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
GREAT. THANK YOU, GREG, AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DAVE CHAROBEE, I'M SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST WITH THE WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IF YOU BEAR WITH ME, I'M GOING TO BE GUIDING YOU GUYS THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING ON THE PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH. WE'LL BE GIVING YOU A BRIEF HISTORY, A SUMMARY OF OUR RECENT WORKSHOP THAT WE JUST HELD ON IT, THE HARBOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION, AND WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE MOVING FORWARD. SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FUNDED BY DBA, WHICH IS THE DIVISION OF BOATING AND WATERWAYS.
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NOW DBA WILL PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THIS BOAT LAUNCH 100%.BUT THERE ARE SOME CAVEATS. FIRST, THE CITY NEEDS TO COMPLETE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES ON OUR END, WHICH IS REALLY WHY WE'RE KIND OF HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. SO WHAT WE'RE SEEKING IS CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPLICATION FOR THE DBA GRANT TO BE DUE ON FEBRUARY 2ND OF 2026, AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE 2026-2027 FUNDING ROUND FOR THIS ROLLING GRANT.
NOW, THIS IS AN ANNUAL GRANT THAT'S PUT OUT BY DBA.
AND FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR APPLICATION, WE NEED TWO THINGS.
THE SECOND THING WE NEED IS TO IDENTIFY A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR THE BOAT LAUNCH.
MOLE D IS FAIRLY LARGE AND IN WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR MOFFATT AND NICHOL AS WELL AS PAST EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO A FEW OPTIONS. SO TONIGHT, WE'RE SEEKING CITY COUNCIL'S INPUT ON THOSE OPTIONS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO DRAFT THAT RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. AND IN THAT APPLICATION, WE NEED TO HAVE A PREFERRED LOCATION.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT TIMELINE IN SOME OF THE THE OTHER ITEMS. AND I WANTED TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU BRIEFLY TONIGHT AS WELL. HERE'S A BRIEF GLIMPSE OF OUR EXPECTED TIMELINE.
NOW, THE DATES YOU SEE ARE PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY THE GRANT CALENDAR AS WELL AS THE STATE BUDGET CYCLE.
SO THIS SUMMER OF 2025, WE COMPLETED OUR TECHNICAL STUDIES, WHICH INCLUDED THE DEMAND STUDY, THE COASTAL HAZARDS STUDY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING, PARKING AND CIRCULATION, ETC.
AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025, WE HELD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP OVER AT THE REDONDO BEACH LIBRARY THAT CAPTURED COMMUNITY INPUT AND SHOWED THEM THE PROS AND CONS OF THREE LOCATIONS AND GATHER THEIR FEEDBACK.
BASED ON THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED AT THE WORKSHOP TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
NOW THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY, THE NOVEMBER 2025 CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY ADOPT A RESOLUTION WILL BE AUTHORIZING THAT APPLICATION FOR THE 2026-2027 CYCLE. AND THAT COUNCIL ACTION ALSO SIGNALS TO, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERS AND REGULATORS, THE CITY IS ALIGNED BEHIND A PREFERRED CONCEPT IN FEBRUARY 2026, WHEN THE APPLICATION IS DUE, WILL SUBMIT THAT THAT RESOLUTION ALONG WITH OUR GRANT PACKAGE.
AND THEN IT'S NOT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2027 WHEN WE WILL BE TRANSMITTING ITS FINAL FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STATE FOR INCLUSION IN THE STATE'S FISCAL YEAR 27-28 BUDGET. WE'RE EXPECTED TO HEAR BACK IN JULY OF 2027, WHEN THE STATE BUDGET IS FORMALLY ADOPTED AND THE BOAT LAUNCH GRANT AWARDS ARE FORMALLY ANNOUNCED, AND THEN BETWEEN FALL OF 2027 AND WINTER OF 2028, WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE THAT GRANT AGREEMENT.
WE COULD CERTAINLY STREAMLINE AND DO JUST THAT, BECAUSE OUR EARNEST MONEY, THE $650,000, IS PAYING FOR THIS PROCESS RIGHT NOW DID INCLUDE ENTITLEMENTS AS WELL. SO, ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'LL BE IN PARALLEL.
YEP. OKAY. SO I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SO FAR.
MOFFATT AND NICHOL, OUR CONTRACTOR HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE SUCCESSFULLY DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING BOAT LAUNCHES, INCLUDING ONES IN COASTAL ZONES SUCH AS OURS.
THEY'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH SWA, WHO HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH THE CITY, AS WELL AS BOTH IN BOAT LAUNCHES AND WITH THE PUBLIC AMENITIES PLAN, WHERE THEY GATHERED EXTENSIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT HAS BEEN VITAL TO THE PATH FORWARD FOR THIS GRANT APPLICATION.
MOFFATT AND NICHOL HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN KING HARBOR.
THEY'VE COMPLETED 12 SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS HERE IN OUR HARBOR RECENTLY.
THEY MAY HAVE COMPLETED SOME FEW OTHERS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, BUT THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK HERE. AND JERRY HOLCOMB AS AS GREG MENTIONED, IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. NOT ONLY IS HE HELPING US MANAGE THIS PROJECT FROM MOFFATT AND NICHOL SIDE, BUT HE'S ALSO A LOCAL BOATER, SO HE UNDERSTANDS THE UNIQUE WATERFRONT AREA THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE HERE.
NOW LOCATION CAN BE DEPENDENT ON WAVE AND STORM SURGE CONDITIONS, TRAFFIC AND PARKING IMPACTS,
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IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, WATERWAY NAVIGATION, AND AND COASTAL COMMISSION REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMITTING AND FOR THE GRANTS. ONE KEY TO BE CONSIDERED IS THAT WE MUST ADHERE TO THESE REQUIREMENTS TO SECURE THE NECESSARY GRANT MONEY AND PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT THE BOAT LAUNCH.NOW, I'M GOING TO GO OVER BRIEFLY THE HISTORY OF THIS BOAT LAUNCH IN REDONDO BEACH.
SINCE 1959, REDONDO HAS CONSIDERED NEARLY 20 LOCATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTING A PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH.
EXTENSIVE RESEARCH IN THE PAST HAS FOCUSED ON MOLE A, B, C, AND D.
MOLE B WAS FOUND TO BE FAR TOO SMALL TO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY TURNAROUND SPACE AND PARKING FOR THE BOAT LAUNCH, AS WELL AS BOAT TRAFFIC CONCERNS. CONFLICTS WITH THE EXISTING LANAKILA CLUB HARBOR PATROL FACILITY AND TRAFFIC EXTENDING INTO THE MAIN CHANNEL.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT BOATS WAITING TO USE THE LAUNCH COULD BACK UP AND BLOCK MARINE AWAY. MOLE C WAS CONSIDERED AND FOUND TO HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES, WITH CONCERNS ABOUT BOAT TRAILERS BACKING UP AND BLOCKING PORTOFINO WAY, AS WELL AS CONCERNS WITH WAVE ATTENUATION, PARKING AND CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES.
THERE IS ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE FUTURE WATERFRONT EDUCATION CENTER.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH MOLE D, WHICH A BOAT LAUNCH WORKING GROUP WAS LAUNCHED AS PART OF THE AMENITIES PLAN THAT ULTIMATELY LANDED ON MOLE D AS IT HAD THE MOST AVAILABLE SPACE, WHICH GIVES US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT KIND OF BOAT LAUNCH WE CAN DESIGN.
SO THAT MADE IT REALLY THE BEST OPTION OUT OF ALL THESE LOCATIONS IN THE HARBOR.
NOW, KEEP IN MIND, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO STANDARDS AND COASTAL COMMISSION'S REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE HERE IN REDONDO BEACH, MEASURE C.
IT MUST RESULT IN NO NET LOSS OF SLIPS. IT MUST BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN NORMAL SURGE CONDITIONS.
IT MUST AVOID WHERE WAVES OVERTOP THE BREAK WALL.
IT MUST BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE STREET LEGAL TRAILERABLE BOATS.
AND IT MUST HAVE 60 TRAILER SPACES OR 30 PER LANE WITHIN 500FT OF THE RAMP.
THEY'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE PICKED THEM FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO HOW CAN WE BUILD A BOAT LAUNCH THAT IS BOTH A PERMITTABLE STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO THAT ADHERES TO THE NEEDS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY? HOW DO WE FOSTER A COHESIVE WATERFRONT EXPERIENCE THAT BENEFITS BOATERS, BUT ALSO VISITORS TO THE WATERFRONT WHO ARE OUT FOR A WALK OR WANT TO PATRONIZE AND ENJOY ONE OF THE MANY LOCAL, GREAT LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, TO KIND OF GET THAT TYPE OF FEEDBACK AND SHOW YOU OUR LOGIC.
NOW, THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES PLAN, SWA SPENT ABOUT A YEAR GATHERING FEEDBACK AND HELD MULTIPLE PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS, HAD ONLINE SURVEY, ONLINE SURVEYS, POP UP EVENTS THAT SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM THE LOCAL RESIDENTS ON WHAT FEATURES FOR A PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE.
AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE RESULTS HERE ON THE SCREEN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE.
FOR THIS PROJECT, SWA IS BUILDING UPON YEARS AND YEARS WORTH OF PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WAS CONDUCTED, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE AMENITIES PLAN, AS I MENTIONED. WE ALSO GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON TOP OF THAT FROM OUR WORKSHOP AND FROM HARBOR COMMISSION. SO AS WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, WE PLAN TO INCORPORATE THESE INTO THE FINAL DESIGN.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TONIGHT. WE'RE REALLY HERE TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION. SO MOLE D GOES ALL THE WAY FROM THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK, ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE SEASIDE LAGOON IS YOU CAN SEE IT INDICATED HERE ON OUR MAP WITH THAT BLUE LINE THAT INDICATES THE EXISTING PATH OF THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS. AND KEEP IN MIND, IN THE FUTURE, THE AMENITIES PLAN CALLS FOR THIS TO BE FURTHER IMPROVED AND EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE.
THIS STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE DECOMMISSIONED IN THE FUTURE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE BOAT LAUNCH, AND THEN THE AREA THAT'S LABELED D IS THE EXISTING MARINA SLIP TENANT'S RESTROOM. NOW KEEP IN MIND DBAW WILL PAY TO REPLACE THIS STRUCTURE WITH NEW RESTROOMS THAT ARE ADA COMPLIANT AND USABLE BY THE LIVEABOARDS IN BASIN THREE.
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NOW THESE STUDIES ARE AVAILABLE IN YOUR PACKET OF INFORMATION, AND THEY IDENTIFY WHICH LOCATIONS IN MOLE D ARE MOST EXPOSED TO STORM SURGES AND ADVERSE WAVE CONDITIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN IN THE MOFFATT AND NICHOL, SET UP A SERIES OF LITTLE BUOYS.YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HERE, AND THEY'RE DESIGNED TO MEASURE THOSE WAVE CONDITIONS, STORM CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER VARIOUS CONDITIONS THAT COULD AFFECT THE WATERS IN THE HARBOR.
AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN BELOW, YOU CAN SEE THE DATA THAT THEY COLLECTED.
ON THE RIGHT THERE YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT. THERE YOU HAVE KIND OF LIKE A HEAT MAP.
AND THE BLUE AREAS SEE LESS WAVE IMPACT AND REPRESENT CALMER WATERS.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE IF YOU LOOK UP NEAR SEASIDE LAGOON AND WHERE THE HAND LAUNCHES THERE, THAT THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THE WAVES WERE THE MOST INTENSE, BUT ALSO ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF MOLE D AS WELL.
NOW, IF THE BOAT LAUNCH IS LOCATED IN ONE OF THE RED OR GREEN AREAS, THEN STORM SURGES WOULD LIKELY HAVE MORE SIGNIFICANT OF AN IMPACT AND THEREFORE MORE WAVE PROTECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED. MORE MITIGATION WOULD BE REQUIRED.
IF THE BOAT LAUNCH IS LOCATED IN ONE OF THE BLUE AREAS WHERE STORM SURGES HAVE LESS OF AN IMPACT, THEN THE RAMP WOULD NOT NEED AS MUCH PROTECTION BECAUSE THE WAVES WOULD BE NOT NOT AS GREAT.
NOW, MOFFATT AND NICHOL ALSO CONDUCTED AS PART OF THEIR STUDIES A BOAT LAUNCH USAGE DEMAND STUDY.
NOW THIS IS A STUDY THAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY DBAW AS PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION.
AND IT LOOKED AT WHAT THE CLOSEST BOAT LAUNCHES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE AREA ARE.
AND IT ALSO CONSIDERED THAT IF WE BUILD A BOAT LAUNCH HERE IN KING HARBOR, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL USE IT? AND THE MAIN RESULTS THAT CAME FROM THIS STUDY ARE THAT, NUMBER ONE, YES, THERE IS DEMAND.
PEOPLE WOULD USE A BOAT LAUNCH LOCATED IN REDONDO BEACH AND THAT TWO, THE LAUNCH LANES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR, THE TWO LAUNCH LANES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LAUNCH, AND IF THOSE TWO LAUNCH LANES WOULD REQUIRE 60 PARKING SPACES.
NOW MOFFATT AND NICHOL ALSO CONDUCTED A PARKING AND TRAFFIC CIRCULATION STUDY, AND IN IT THEY STUDIED SIX OF THE CLOSEST INTERSECTIONS AND CONCLUDED THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS BOAT LAUNCH. NOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT MOLE D IS THE LARGEST MOLE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN KING HARBOR, AND THE PARKING AND PARKING STUDY DETERMINED THAT APPROXIMATELY 60 PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED AND REQUIRED IN COMPLIANCE WITH MEASURE C.
NOW, THE EXISTING SITE HAS 719 PARKING STALLS, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOAT LAUNCH TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE EXISTING USES FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS THE BOAT LAUNCH.
THAT WOULD LEAVE US WITH 525 STALLS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOAT LAUNCH.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE LOSING SOME PARKING TO TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION, BUT OVERALL WE WOULD STILL HAVE AN EXCESS OF PARKING FOR ALL THE LAUNCH REQUIREMENTS AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT ARE DOWN THERE. NOW I WANT TO START FIRST BY GETTING INTO THE OPTIONS THAT WERE SHOWN AT THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 23RD. THE FIRST OPTION THAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU GUYS IS WHAT WE DUBBED OPTION A.
NOW OPTION A POSITIONS THE BOAT LAUNCH THE FURTHEST SOUTH ALONG THE MOLE.
NOW OPTION A HAS THE SHORTEST RAMP LENGTH BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL FROM THAT HEAT WAVE ATTENUATION MAP THAT WE LOOKED AT EARLIER, THIS OPTION IS THE FURTHEST INTO THE BLUE AREA, WHICH MEANS THIS LOCATION IS THE MOST PROTECTED FROM WAVES AND STORM SURGES.
THIS OPTION ALSO PROVIDES THE MOST SIMILAR TRAFFIC CIRCULATION TO THE EXISTING BOAT HOIST THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF SIMILARLY POSITIONED AND LOCATED, SO THERE'D BE LESS IMPACT ON THE PARKING AND CIRCULATION, LESS WAVE ATTENUATION THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATED.
HOWEVER, THIS LOCATION HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGES.
THE BIG ONE, AND THE ONE THAT WE SAW THE MOST FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT THE WORKSHOP AND AT HARBOR COMMISSION, IS THAT THIS LOCATION PROVIDES THE NARROWEST CHANNEL WIDTH FOR THE LAUNCHING OF VESSELS.
NOW, TO MEET STANDARDS FOR THE GRANT, THE BOAT LAUNCH MUST PROVIDE MINIMUM 50FT FROM TOW OF THE RAMP OUT OUT FOR THE LAUNCHING SPACE, PLUS 30FT FOR THE DIRECTION OF BOAT TRAFFIC ENTERING AND EXITING BASIN THREE.
THAT'S FOR EACH DIRECTION. NOW THIS OPTION DOES PROVIDE 130FT OF SPACE.
SO OPTION A DOES MEET THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FROM DBAW.
AND IT DOES WORK IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SPACE FOR THE LAUNCHING OF VESSELS.
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HOWEVER, THIS OPTION PROVIDES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SPACE COMPARED TO THE OTHER OPTIONS.BUT AGAIN, THIS OPTION PROVIDES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF NAVIGABLE SPACE FOR VESSELS.
NOW WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THIS ALSO BRINGS US TO OPTION B.
NOW, WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, AS I MENTIONED AT THE WORKSHOPS WITH NARROW CHANNEL SPACE FOR OPTION A, AND OPTION B PROVIDES MORE NAVIGABLE SPACE, BUT AT THE COST OF THE RAMP HAVING A LITTLE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA, SOMEWHAT MORE WAVE EXPOSURE, AND A LITTLE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT OPTION B WORKS. IT PROVIDES AN EXTRA 40FT OF NAVIGABLE SPACE FOR WATERCRAFT, MORE THAN OPTION A, PROVIDES A TOTAL OF 170FT OF SPACE ACROSS THE CHANNEL.
COSTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OPTION A, BUT AGAIN, THIS LOCATION STILL WORKS. MOFFATT AND NICHOL ALSO CONSIDERED A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF MOLE D, AND EACH OF THEM HAD SOME DRAWBACKS.
BUT THE MAIN ONE THAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT IS THE ONE THAT WAS SHOWN AT THE WORKSHOP AT HARBOR COMMISSION, WHICH IS OPTION C, AS WE'VE DUBBED IT. NOW, ALL THE LOCATIONS CONSIDERED ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF MOLE D WERE FOUND TO HAVE THOSE ISSUES WITH WAVE ATTENUATION, IF YOU RECALL FROM THAT HEAT WAVE MAP. NOW THIS SIDE OF THE MOLE IS THE MOST IMPACTED BY SURGES AND WAVE ATTENUATION.
AND ONE OF THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF OPTION C IS THAT IT POTENTIALLY PROVIDES THE MOST NAVIGABLE SPACE FOR VESSELS THAT ARE LAUNCHING, AND IT HAS THE LEAST IMPACT ON VESSELS THAT ARE ENTERING AND EXITING BASIN THREE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF TUCKED AWAY HERE. HOWEVER, OPTION C STILL DOES HAVE SOME MORE DRAWBACKS AS I MENTIONED.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHEET PILE WALL TO PROTECT AGAINST WAVE ATTENUATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A SHIELD THAT WOULD PROTECT BOTH THE RAMP THAT'S LAUNCHING THE VESSELS, AS WELL AS MOLE D AS A WHOLE FROM STORM SURGES AND UPRUSH THAT ACCOMPANIES THEM.
NOW, THIS OPTION IS THE CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE ON HARBOR DRIVE, SO IT WOULD BE EASY FOR TRAILERABLE BOATS TO LOCATE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR VEHICLE CIRCULATION, TURNAROUND SPACE, AND WOULD ALSO COME DIRECTLY INTO CONFLICT WITH THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT'S A PART OF THE AMENITIES PLAN.
NOW BECAUSE OF THE SHEET PILE WALL, THE LENGTH OF THE RAMP, THE WAVE ATTENUATION.
OPTION C WOULD HAVE MOST LIKELY THE MOST IMPACT ON THE OCEAN FLOOR AS WELL.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, MOFFATT AND NICHOL BELIEVES THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE REASONS, OPTION C WOULD LIKELY HAVE THE MOST REGULATORY AND PERMITTING OBSTACLES, AND THAT COULD ALSO INCREASE THE COST OF IT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW I BROUGHT UP THE TERM A FEW TIMES. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
A SHEET WALL WILL PROTECT THE RAMP AND MOLE D FROM STORM SURGES, BUT IT COULD POSE AN ADDITIONAL AN ADDITIONAL NAVIGATIONAL OBSTACLE FOR VESSELS FOR HANDCRAFTS THAT ARE BEING LAUNCHED. AND IT COULD ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOBBLING UP NAVIGABLE SPACE IN THE IN THE HARBOR TO BUILD THIS, THIS BIG CONCRETE STRUCTURE.
NOW, THE HEIGHT OF THE SHEET PILE WALL COULD BE AS HIGH AS 10 TO 15FT.
IF YOU LOOK HERE AT THE DIAGRAM, WHICH WOULD SHIELD THE RAMP, BUT FURTHER LIMIT THE LAUNCH SPACE THAT VESSELS HAVE TO NAVIGATE WHEN LAUNCHING FROM THE RAMP. SO AGAIN, IT WOULD MEET THE MEDIUM, THE MINIMUM 50FT REQUIRED BY LAW, BUT COULD PROVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.
SO ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, WE HELD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP AT THE REDONDO BEACH LIBRARY TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ORIGINALLY FOR THIS GRANT APPLICATION.
NOW, THE WORKSHOP WAS WELL ATTENDED AND RECEIVED A LOT OF VALUABLE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON THESE LOCATIONS. FOR A, B, AND C, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WAS ALSO RECEIVED THAT REFERRED TO A FOURTH LOCATION NEAR R/10, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO A PAST LOCATION THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND FOUND TO BE UNWORKABLE BECAUSE IT REQUIRED THE REMOVAL OF SLIPS, WHICH YOU WILL RECALL IS PROHIBITED BY MEASURE C.
GENERALLY, THE FEEDBACK ON THE LOCATION OPTIONS WAS SPLIT, SO MOFFATT AND NICHOL CAME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL OPTION THAT WE CALL OPTION OPTION E, WHICH IS A COMPROMISE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE BOAT LAUNCH AMENITIES THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE AMENITIES PLAN. THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE INCORPORATED IN THE FINAL DESIGN.
IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC PREVIOUSLY. NOW AT THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP, WE ASKED ATTENDEES TO DESCRIBE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH KING HARBOR.
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NOW, MOST ATTENDEES INDICATED THAT THEY VISIT THE WATERFRONT OFTEN, EITHER DAILY OR WEEKLY.AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON ATTENDEES GAVE FOR VISITING THE HARBOR WAS FOR RECREATIONAL BOATING.
THE SECOND MOST POPULAR REASON WAS FOR DINING OR PATRONIZING LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE HARBOR, FOLLOWED BY ENJOYING THE PEDESTRIAN BIKE PATHS AND SCENIC LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE COME TO ENJOY.
ATTENDEES SURVEYED, 22 SAID THEY EITHER DON'T LAUNCH BOATS OR WERE UNLIKELY TO USE THE BOAT LAUNCH, WHEREAS 17 INDICATED THAT THEY WERE LIKELY OR VERY LIKELY TO USE IT.
THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THE FIRST SURVEY THAT WAS TAKEN TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AND ATTENDEES INDICATED THAT THEY FAVORED OPTION C, WITH OPTION A COMING IN A CLOSE SECOND PLACE.
NOW, A SECOND SURVEY WAS TAKEN AFTER THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS DISCUSSION, AND IN THAT SURVEY, OPTION C REMAINED IN FIRST PLACE WITH OPTION A AND B TIED FOR SECOND PLACE.
QUICK QUESTION IF I COULD MAYOR, FOR DAVE. IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE FIRST SURVEY TO THE SECOND SURVEY, MAYBE SOME OF THE SURVEYED PEOPLE LEFT. IS IT FEWER FOLKS INVOLVED? OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT SURE. IT'S NOT REALLY APPLES TO APPLES.
ONE WAY. WE DON'T KNOW WHO LEFT. WHO STAYED. RIGHT.
AND EVERY QUESTION IN THE SURVEY WAS OPTIONAL.
AND YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY ATTENDEE CHOSE TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION IN THE SURVEY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. NOW OVERALL, THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH ALL THREE OF THE OPTIONS. AND BASED ON PUBLIC FEEDBACK FROM THE WORKSHOP, AS WELL AS SOME VERY VALUABLE INPUT FROM OUR PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION. WE PARTNERED WITH MOFFATT AND NICHOL TO CREATE WHAT WE DUBBED OPTION E.
OPTION E SERVES AS SORT OF A COMPROMISE BETWEEN OPTION A AND B, SO THE RAMP WAS ORIENTED MORE OF A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS IT COULD BE ROTATED WITHOUT REQUIRING A SHEET PILE WALL BEING NEEDED TO PROTECT AGAINST WAVE ATTENUATION.
NOW THIS WOULD ALSO OPTION, THIS OPTION WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 30FT OF NAVIGATIONAL SPACE COMPARED TO OPTION A, FOR A TOTAL OF 160FT ENTERING AND EXITING BASIN THREE.
IT ALSO ONLY PROVIDES TEN FEET LESS COMPARED TO OPTION B, SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE A SAFER, MORE CONTROLLABLE EXIT RELEVANT TO THE PREVAILING WINDS, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE MORE HARMONIOUS WITH THE BOAT AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT WE SAW WITH SOME OF THE SOME OPTIONS WITH A AND B.
NOW, OPTION E ALSO PRESERVES THE GENERAL TRAFFIC CIRCULATION OF OPTION A, AND IT RECEIVED A FAVORABLE RECEPTION DUE TO INCREASING THE NAVIGABLE SPACE WHILE PROTECTING THE MOLE FROM WAVE UPRUSH, PROTECTING THE EXISTING BUSINESSES AND HARBOR COMMISSION, IN REVIEWING THIS OPTION ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PICKING A LOCATION IS DIFFICULT, AS THERE REALLY IS NO PERFECT LOCATION ANYWHERE IN THE HARBOR OR MOLE OR MOLE D. BUT THAT OPTION E ULTIMATELY PROVIDES THE MOST ADVANTAGES AND THE LEAST DRAWBACKS.
SO AT THE OCTOBER 13TH HARBOR COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND STAFF BRING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT USING OPTION E. NOW, OPTION E ALSO RECEIVED THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE BOAT LAUNCH SUBCOMMITTEE, AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ALSO VOICED THEIR SUPPORT FOR IT AS WELL.
SO THIS OPTION IS SORT OF, AS I MENTIONED, A HAPPY COMPROMISE BETWEEN OPTIONS A AND B.
HARBOR COMMISSION ALSO OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ULTIMATELY, THE FINAL DESIGN MUST ALSO CAREFULLY CONSIDER ONSITE CIRCULATION PROTECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS, LOCATION OF QUEUING DOCKS AND MORE.
SO WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO THERE. BUT ULTIMATELY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE TONIGHT RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN AT A FUTURE DATE WITH A RESOLUTION.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO HAND IT BACK OVER TO GREG AND MIKE.
WE DO HAVE JERRY HOLCOMB WITH US FROM MOFFATT AND NICHOL.
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HE'S ALSO HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.AND IF I COULD MAYOR. THANK YOU DAVE. VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
APPRECIATE APPRECIATE MOFFATT & NICHOLS WORK ON THIS AND THE FULL TEAM.
WE'VE BEEN VERY CLOSE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE. HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WE'RE ABLE TO GET OURSELVES OVER THE FINISH LINE AND GET A GRANT IN THE HOPPER, SO TO SPEAK. WE VERY MUCH EXPECT DBAW TO SUPPORT OUR GRANT APPLICATION AS PART OF THEIR UPCOMING CYCLE.
IT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS. ONE THING I WANT. AND THEY'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETINGS.
THEY HAVE. THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. THEY'RE VERY EAGER FOR THIS APPLICATION TO COME.
IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY. IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROBABLY 40 BOAT LAUNCH RAMP MEETINGS OR MORE.
SO, THIS WOULD BE GREAT. WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT OPTION E.
WE THINK IT IS THE BEST AVAILABLE SIGHTING FOR THE FACILITY.
BUT WHAT I WANT THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY PICKING TONIGHT IS BOAT LAUNCH ORIENTATION WHERE IT'S ENTERING THE NAVIGABLE WATERS, WHAT SORT OF CONFLICTS IT CREATES BY ENTERING THE NAVIGABLE WATERS, HOW IT'S ACCESSED FROM THE LAND SIDE, FROM A VEHICLE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION STANDPOINT, WHAT IT DOES FOR ALLOWANCES, FOR PARKING, EVERYTHING AFTER THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO FINAL DESIGN. AS DAVE SAID, THE LOCATION OF THE RESTROOMS, THE LOCATION OF THE FOSS BUILDING, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A LOOKOUT, A PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT'S THAT TAKES YOU DOWN TOWARDS THE WATER'S EDGE, OR IF WE HAVE OPEN SPACE, WHAT WE DO ULTIMATELY WITH THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE EITHER WEST OR EAST OR BOTH OF THE FINAL OF THE FINAL BOAT RAMP AND PARKING SPACE, WE HAVE ALL OF THAT FLEXIBILITY IN FRONT OF US AS PART OF THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AS WE COMPLETE THEM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
REALLY, TONIGHT IS THE PRIMARY ELEMENTS OF THE LAUNCH SITE FACILITY.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET TOO HUNG UP IN THE ACCOUTERMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAMP, WHERE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT ORIENTATION AND EGRESS INGRESS INTO THE MALL FROM THAT SPACE.
SO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK. YOU KNOW, JASON MACE HERE.
HARBOR PATROL HAS BEEN VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN ANALYZING THESE VARIOUS OPTIONS.
THEY'VE RAISED CONCERNS AS THEY'VE AS THEY'VE COME FORWARD.
THEY TOO VERY MUCH AGREE WITH OPTION E AS THE PREFERRED LOCATION.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE. THIS ISN'T JUST THE SORT OF SITING COMMITTEE.
THIS IS FROM A HARBOR PATROL NAVIGABLE OPERATION STANDPOINT.
YOU MIGHT RECALL WHEN WE DID THE SIGHTING STUDY AS PART OF THE BROADER WATERFRONT PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS AN EXPECTATION THAT BY SELECTING MOLE D, WE WERE LIKELY TO LOSE THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE MALL.
THAT WAS AN ANTICIPATED OUTCOME BASED ON THE PREFERENCE OF MOLE D DURING THAT EFFORT.
THE FACT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AN OPTION THAT PRESERVES THAT IS A VERY POSITIVE THING.
SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO AT LEAST DETERMINE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT SPACE LONG TERM, WHETHER IT'S THE EXISTING BUILDING OR WHATEVER FUTURE COMMERCIAL USE THE COUNCIL SEES FIT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER POSITIVE OUTCOME HERE, NOT ONE THAT WAS ANTICIPATED WHEN WE CAME INTO THIS PROCESS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE TEAM.
WE'VE GOT MOFFATT AND NICHOL HERE. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, WE'VE GOT JASON MAY HERE. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS AND CERTAINLY DAVE AND COMPANY ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR WATERFRONT. OKAY.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS ASSUMING WE GET THROUGH THIS TONIGHT, A MOMENTOUS OCCASION, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO PUT THIS BOAT RAMP SINCE THE HARBOR WAS BUILT AND HAVE NEVER SETTLED ON ANYTHING.
THIS IS THE FURTHEST WE WILL HAVE GOTTEN. I DO WANT TO FOOT STOMP.
I GET, I GET A NUMBER OF EMAILS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY BOATERS, ASKING WHY WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS EFFORT INTO THIS AND WHY WE'RE PRIORITIZING THIS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT MEASURE C AND WE TALKED TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, THEY WERE UPSET THAT THEY HAD MANDATED A BOAT RAMP IN THE HARBOR, AND THE CITY HAD APPROVED SHADE HOTEL WITHOUT PUTTING ONE IN.
AND SO IT'S THE COASTAL COMMISSION THAT IS THAT HAS MANDATED THIS.
AND WE HAD TO EMBODY IT AND MEASURE C TO SAY.
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SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE MOVING OUT SMARTLY ON THIS AND PRIORITIZING IT, AS I THINK THE SECOND REAL PROJECT OUT OF THE AMENITIES PLAN.IF YOU COULD GO TO THE IMAGE OF OPTION A, I'M GLAD WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THIS.
I'M GLAD THE HARBOR COMMISSION DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MOLE B BACK IN THE CENTER COW DAYS, THIS IS ALMOST A DUPLICATION OF WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED FROM [INAUDIBLE] THE SAME LIMITED ACCESS IN THE FAIRWAY WITH A LOT OF BOAT TRAFFIC HAVING TO CROSS RIGHT WHERE THE BOAT RAMP WOULD BE ENTERING.
AND THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY EVEN EXACERBATED THE WIDTH.
IT WAS ALMOST THE SAME. I THINK THAT WAS 125FT INSTEAD OF 130.
BUT HERE, WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN MOLE B, WHICH WAS EVENTUALLY DEFEATED BECAUSE OF ITS SHORTCOMINGS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF BASIN ONE, THERE YOU HAVE PADDLE HOUSE RENTING OUT PADDLE BOARDS THAT COME ACROSS RIGHT AT THAT CORNER ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE LOWER RIGHT, YOU HAVE CAPTAIN JAKES THAT RENTS KAYAKS, SUPS AND THOSE PADDLE BOATS, WHICH ARE VERY UNMANEUVERABLE.
SO YOU HAVE THAT ON TOP OF THAT. THIS IS BUSY COMMERCIAL PART OF THE HARBOR.
THERE'S MULTIPLE SPORT FISHING BOATS THAT ARE PULLING OUT AND COMING BACK MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
SO YOU'VE GOT THIS LARGE BOAT TRAFFIC MIXED WITH THESE INEXPERIENCED RENTALS OF HUMAN POWERED CRAFT CROSSING RIGHT AT THE NARROWEST PART OF THE MOUTH OF THAT BASIN. AND YOU WOULD HAVE INEXPERIENCED BOATERS USING THE BOAT RAMP, CUTTING RIGHT INTO THAT.
AND I LIKE WHAT CHIEF MAHONEY CALLS THEM. WHAT DOES HE CALL THEM? GRINDERS. OR I FORGET WHAT HE CALLS HIM, BUT HE HAD A GREAT TERM FOR IT WHERE BASICALLY HE GOT PROPS COMING INTO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE WATER, WHICH IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION. BLENDER. BLENDER.
THAT'S IT, A BLENDER. YES. SO. SO THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY WORSE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT IN, IN THE CENTER COW DAYS WITH THE MOLE B BOAT RAMP. SO I'M SO GLAD. AND I HOPE THE COUNCIL DOES NOT GO FOR THIS VERSION.
THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO NAVIGATION.
THE YOUTH FLEET USES THAT FOR NAVIGATION TRAINING.
QUITE A BIT. IT WOULD CREATE BLIND SPOTS. BUT ALSO IMPORTANTLY TO REMEMBER, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE SURGE WAS THE HOTTEST IN THERE, THAT WHOLE QUEUING DOCK THAT'S SHOWN THERE WOULD BE EXPOSED.
IT'S NOT COVERED BY ANYTHING THAT WOULD BLOCK THE WAVES.
SO WE WOULD HAVE REGULAR REPAIRS OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
AND THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BIG WINTER STORMS COULD TEAR THAT APART.
SO WHILE I ACTUALLY LIKED I, I LIKE SOME ASPECTS OF THIS THAT THAT COMBINED WITH THE, THE AWKWARD TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THERE KIND OF KIBOSHES IT FOR US.
YOU WAS REMARKABLE. I KNOW, MIKE, YOU EVEN HAD A HAND IN THIS, SO I WANT TO GIVE SOME KUDOS TO YOU.
BUT THIS SEEMS TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING. I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT AS THE WHAT? WHAT CAME OUT OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION? WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR HAND UP? SURE. THANK YOU. MAYOR.
OF ALL THE OPTIONS, WHAT FIRST STARTED A WAS A NONSTARTER FOR ME JUST BECAUSE OF THE CHANNEL WIDTH.
SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH E. A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS.
DO WE SPEND MONEY ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN AND PERMITTING BEFORE OR AFTER DBAW SENDS US FUNDING? SO THERE'S TWO CHOICES. I THINK OUR HOPE IS THAT DBAW WOULD FUND ALL OF THE SUBSTANTIVE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, THE SUBSEQUENT ENTITLEMENT PHASE BIDDING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RAMP FACILITY, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RAMP.
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SO IF WE SPEND MONEY ON SOME OF THE MORE FINAL DESIGN WORK TO TRY TO ACCELERATE PLANS AND SPECS, THAT WE CAN BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT EVEN AFTER THE FUNDING AGREEMENT IS AWARDED.SOMETIMES AGENCIES LIKE DBAW, METRO, ETC. STATE THEY'LL ACCEPT THE LETTER OF NO PREJUDICE WHERE THEY'LL SAY, LOOK, WE RECOGNIZE YOU'VE GOT AN APPLICATION IN AND WE'LL START YOUR ZERO DATE NOW.
IF YOU ARE AWARDED AND WE WILL REIMBURSE YOU FOR THOSE EXPENSES IF YOU'RE AWARDED.
I DON'T KNOW IF DBAW WILL DO THAT IN THIS INSTANCE.
THAT IS WHAT IS BEING COVERED IN THE MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY FUNDED FOR THIS EXERCISE.
SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO KEEP GOING. BUT THE DESIGN WORK, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO ACCELERATE THAT, TO GET CLOSER TO BIDDING, I THINK WE CAN PURSUE A LETTER OF NO PREJUDICE.
SO I THINK THE TWO ARE GOING TO LINE UP WELL.
BUT OUR ANTICIPATION IS THAT CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS WILL BE FUNDED BY THE GRANT.
HOW HOW SURE ARE WE THAT THE GRANT ACTUALLY DOES GET FUNDED? BECAUSE PART OF MY CONCERN IS CALIFORNIA IS GOING TO GO LOOK AT DECLINING REVENUE BUDGET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND GO, WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THIS BY A FEW YEARS.
MEANWHILE, WE JUST SPENT $3.5 MILLION ON SOMETHING AND WE'RE WAITING AND HOPING TO BE PAID.
OH NO, WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT THIS IN A MORE CLEAR ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
THE ENTITLEMENT FUNDING AT THIS POINT THAT WE'LL NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF COASTAL IS NOT THAT MUCH MORE MONEY, CORRECT? I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY FUNDED IN THE 650,000.
WE'LL GET THE GRANT BEFORE SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SUBJECT TO ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSE.
AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL HAVE FUNDING FOR OUR APPLICATION UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE.
NO. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS IN ADVANCE, THEN I'M VERY HAPPY TO YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD AND SEE THIS BACK ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
THAT'S IT FOR ME. CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT POINT? YEAH. I'M DONE. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING ANY MORE MONEY TO THIS PROJECT.
IT IS FULLY FUNDED FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND SIDE.
CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE ELSE HAS THEIR HAND UP.
AS DAVE SAID ON THE 18TH, THAT'LL SITE THE MOTION YOU WANT IS JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE AND TO DIRECT US TO AN OPTION TO DIRECT US TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION THAT IDENTIFIES OPTION E AS THE PREFERRED LOCATION AS PART OF OUR GRANT APPLICATION.
SO MOVED. I'LL MOVE OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
I HAVE ONE CARD. LEE CALLER. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF. WE CALL OUR DISTRICT THREE AND THE HARBOR COMMISSIONER.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD TODAY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ALL ALREADY IN AGREEMENT.
I PERSONALLY LIKE ORIGINALLY LIKED OPTION C, BUT FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, ESPECIALLY THAT SHEET PILE WALL, WHICH I JUST COULDN'T GET MYSELF AROUND THREW THAT OUT AND I'M VERY HAPPY, I THINK WITH THE WITH THE DIRECTION THE RAMP IS GOING NOW THAT MEETS THE PROBLEMS THAT SOME OF THE SAILORS HAVE IDENTIFIED.
IT'S GOT ENOUGH ROOM TO MANEUVER, AND EVEN THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS ALMOST AS GOOD AS OPTION A, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING BACK ON THE 18TH WHEN THIS IS ALL APPROVED, TO ACTUALLY FILE FOR THE GRANT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MARK HANSEN KING HARBOR BOATER AND PROUD MEMBER OF THE KING HARBOR PUBLIC AMENITIES WORKING GROUP.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT, AS YOU SAW, WE RECOMMENDED THIS LOCATION.
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AND THE I HAD PLUSES AND MINUSES ON C AND D, OKAY.AND WE COULD HAVE MADE ONE WORK AT C BUT DURING THAT PROCESS, I KIND OF STARTED FROM SCRATCH, AND I MADE SOME COLUMNS ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND STARTED LISTENING TO EVERYONE AND ANYTHING ANYBODY COULD SAY.
AND IT WAS FUNNY. I DIDN'T THINK I, AN OLD DOG, COULD LEARN NEW TRICKS, BUT LISTENING TO EVERYBODY, I SAID, WOW, THIS IS BECOMING LOPSIDED. MOLE D WAS COMING OUT AS WAY BETTER.
SO I'M GLAD WE STAYED AT MOLE D. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT AND THANK CITY STAFF MOFFATT AND NICHOL THE HARBOR COMMISSION, THE HARBOR COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE. THIS WAS NOT AN EASY TASK, OR WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT DECADES AGO.
OKAY. AND AND THE PROCESS WORKED THE WAY YOU WOULD HOPE A PROCESS WOULD WORK.
THEY SHOWED US DRAWINGS. AND AS THEY MENTIONED THEY GOT SOME PRETTY STRONG CRITIQUES FROM THE COMMERCIAL FOLKS IN BASIN THREE, AND THEY GOT SOME SERIOUS CRITIQUES FROM OUR BOATERS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOATERS WERE ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE WAS THE WIND ANGLES.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK, ANYTHING IN THE DEPARTMENT OF BOATING GUIDELINES ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE POINTED OUT THE A AND B DRAWINGS, THE SAILBOATS WITH AUXILIARY POWER WOULD HAVE BEEN COMING IN ON A BEAM, REACH THEIR FASTEST POINT OF SAIL AND CRASHING INTO EVERYTHING.
AND EVERYBODY WAS GREAT ABOUT LISTENING TO THAT.
AND WITH MEASURE E THEY ROTATED AS MUCH AS THEY COULD 45 DEGREES INTO THE WIND, WHICH WOULD BE A SUPER SAFE EGRESS FOR THE SAILBOATS WITHOUT AUXILIARY POWER. THEN, COMING IN, THEY PUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF 45 DEGREE ANGLE UPWIND DOCKAGE, SO THOSE BOATS WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN, SPIN UP INTO THE WIND, STOP, DROP THEIR SAILS AND THEY CAN BRING THEIR BOATS AROUND THE CORNER.
SO IT WILL ALL WORK. THE, I THINK JUST 1 OR 2 THINGS THAT WEREN'T MENTIONED IN THE LATEST ADMIN REPORT. ONE WAS THE OPTION A AND B WHEN THEY JUST TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER ONE WAS THAT MEASURE, OPTION C, THE MAYOR MENTIONED IT. THAT'S WHERE THE YOUTH FOUNDATION DOES TRAINING AND PEOPLE DROP SAILS.
SO THAT KIND OF MAKES EVERYTHING COMPLETE ON THAT.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
OKAY, I THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY TWO IN THE AUDIENCE.
ANYONE ONLINE? I HAVE NO HANDS ONLINE. I HAVE A TWO ECOMMENTS, ONE SUPPORT AND ONE OPPOSES.
THAT'S IT FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND FOR RECEIVE AND FILE AND BRING BACK A RESOLUTION THAT PUTS IT IN OPTION E. SO WITH THAT I'LL CALL THE VOTE.
ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.
EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR, JUST BEFORE WE GO ON, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, EVERYONE LITERALLY IN THE ROOM FROM MOFFATT AND NICHOLS TO, WE CAN CALL YOU HARBOR COMMISSION/BOATERS TO THE HARBOR PATROL, TO CITY STAFF. FOR GENERATIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE I THINK THERE WERE 22 SITES ON THE MAP WHERE POTENTIAL RAMPS HAD BEEN CONTEMPLATED.
BUT WE FINALLY HAVE CROSSED THE MILESTONE OF SELECTING LOCATION.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND HARD WORK.
OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW GOING ON TO N.2. THIS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PROCESS TO CONSIDER AMENDING OUR LCP, OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, TO ADDRESS PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR MARINA SLIPS.
YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN. GREG KAPOVICH WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
HAPPY TO BRING THIS STRAT PLAN ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. GREG. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS MIA IWASAKI WITH THE WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT, ALONG WITH OUR DIRECTOR, GREG KAPOVICH, TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE COSTS AND PROCESS TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MARINA SLIP PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO A QUICK OVERVIEW.
THIS ITEM STEMS FROM CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN DIRECTION TO DETERMINE IF THE EXISTING PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR MARINA SLIPS CONTINUES TO REFLECT ACTUAL PARKING DEMAND IN OUR HARBOR. CURRENTLY, THE CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, OR LCP AND MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRE THREE FOURTHS OF AN OFF STREET PARKING SPACE PER BOAT SLIP. THE GOAL HERE IS TO EVALUATE WHETHER THAT STANDARD ACCURATELY REFLECTS CURRENT PARKING DEMAND AND BEST PRACTICES IN THE HARBOR.
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IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT WHILE ANY CHANGES TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS GOVERNED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE APPROVING BODY FOR AN LCP AMENDMENT IS THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, AND CITY STAFF HAVE CONSULTED WITH COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF AND CONFIRMED THAT IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AN LCP AMENDMENT, WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE A PARKING STUDY TO SUBSTANTIATE ANY CHANGES.FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, STAFF REACHED OUT TO FEHR AND PEERS, A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING CONSULTING FIRM, TO PROVIDE A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT A PARKING DEMAND STUDY WOULD COST IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STUDY.
STAFF WOULD CONDUCT A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS AND REQUEST QUOTES FROM MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS.
THE DATA COLLECTION PHASE, ESTIMATED AT $4,000, WOULD INCLUDE COMPILING A FULL INVENTORY OF MARINA PARKING STALLS SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE ADA STALLS, RESERVED SPACES, AND PUBLIC PARKING.
THE DATA ANALYSIS PORTION, ESTIMATED AT 31,000, WOULD INVOLVE PREPARING SUMMARY TABLES AND GRAPHICS OF THE PARKING DEMAND DATA REVIEWING PEER JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS MARINA DEL REY, SAN PEDRO, LONG BEACH, NEWPORT BEACH, AND DANA POINT, EVALUATING POTENTIAL RATIO ADJUSTMENT OPTIONS AND THEN PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE FINDINGS.
THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST IS $35,000, WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN OUR DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
IF COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION TO PROCEED, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO OPEN THE COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTANT, WHICH WOULD TAKE ABOUT THREE MONTHS. THE STUDY ITSELF WOULD ALSO TAKE APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS TO COMPLETE, AND ONCE FINALIZED, STAFF WOULD RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH THE RESULTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THE STUDY RECOMMENDS ADJUSTING THE PARKING RATIO AND COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO INITIATE ZONING ORDINANCE AND LCP AMENDMENTS. THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING AND HARBOR COMMISSIONS, AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY 3 TO 4 MONTHS, FOLLOWED BY COASTAL COMMISSION REVIEW OF THE LCP AMENDMENT, WHICH GENERALLY TAKES ANOTHER 4 TO 6 MONTHS.
THIS INCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND JUST ANOTHER CONTEXTUAL OBSERVATION FROM MY END.
YOU MAY ASK, HEY, WHAT VALUE DOES THIS BRING? THE OVERALL WATERFRONT? WHY DO THIS? WHY SPEND THE MONEY IF YOU GO DOWN HARBOR DRIVE ANY DAY, WEEKDAY, WEEKEND, WHAT YOU'LL LIKELY OBSERVE IS A LOT OF VACANCY IN THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO MARINA USE.
IF THE PARKING ANALYSIS, IF IT'S CONDUCTED, DETERMINES THAT THAT IS INDEED THE CASE, IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO PETITION AND FILE AN APPLICATION WITH COASTAL TO PURSUE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT. THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW US TO REPURPOSE THOSE SPACES, THOSE SPACES FOR, I THINK, MORE VALUED USES, WHETHER IT'S VISITOR PARKING, COMMERCIAL INTERESTS, ETC.. SO IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR OVERALL UTILIZATION OF PROPERTY IN THE WATERFRONT.
IT WILL HELP OUR MARINA OPERATORS HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THEY ASSIGN SPACES, AND I THINK GENERALLY WILL BE ACCRETIVE TO OUR OVERALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTFOLIO GOING FORWARD IN THE WATERFRONT. SO WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THIS $35,000 WITHOUT A HOPEFUL GOAL IN MIND.
OUR EXPECTATION AND HOPE WITH THE ANALYSIS IS THAT WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THESE REQUIREMENTS AND BETTER UTILIZE OUR AVAILABLE SPACE, WHICH IS OF A PREMIUM DOWN THERE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS WE PURSUE NEW ECONOMIC INITIATIVES IN THE WATERFRONT.
IF I MAY QUICKLY. SO THAT'S THE RECORD. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MAKES SENSE. THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ONE IN THE ADMIN REPORT OR HERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE STUDY. DO THE STUDY.
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ADJUST OUR REQUIREMENTS TO PUT THAT VALUABLE SPACE TO BETTER USE.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I WANT TO JUMP ON WHAT YOU SAID, AND WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS WITH PORT ROYAL, I SPENT FOUR HOURS WITH KEVIN KETCHUM. HE'S ONE YOU DON'T HAVE A SHORT SIT DOWN WITH PORT ROYAL.
AND HE SAID HE HAD DATA STUDIES WHERE HIS OPERATOR DOWN AT THE SITE WALKED THROUGH MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY ON MULTIPLE DAYS AND WOULD DOCUMENT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WERE BEING USED. AND HIS IS UNIQUE IN THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE ALL DEDICATED TO THE BOATERS THAT ARE IN HIS MARINA.
AND HE SAID, YOU GUYS REQUIRE TOO MUCH PARKING.
AND YOU COULD SAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAVE FOR OTHER USES IF YOU ADJUSTED IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY STARTED THIS CONVERSATION.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE WE'RE WE'RE ELIMINATING SOME PARKING DOWN IN THE SOUTHERN PARKING LOT BECAUSE OF THE BOAT RAMP AND YET WE WANT TO EXPAND. POTENTIALLY BUSINESSES DOWN THERE.
AND WE'RE CONSTRAINED BY PARKING. RIGHT. ESPECIALLY BY OUR LCP, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TODAY.
SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
FIRST AS I SAID, PORT ROYAL IS THE ONLY CLEAN USE WHERE IT'S JUST SPACE ALLOCATED TOWARDS BOATERS THAT YOU CAN SIT THERE AND COUNT AND KNOW THAT THOSE, THOSE CARS, VEHICLES IN THERE ARE BOATING.
ALL THE OTHER ONES IN THE SOUTH PARKING LOT, YOU'VE GOT THE SPORT FISHING STUFF, YOU'VE GOT THE RESTAURANTS, YOU'VE GOT THE SURF CLUB, YOU'VE GOT SEASIDE LAGOON, YOU'VE GOT.
SIMILARLY. PORTOFINO. I MEAN, THEY'RE TIGHT ON PARKING TO BEGIN WITH, AND THEY THAT'S MIXED WITH THEIR HOTEL USE AND [INAUDIBLE] AND AT TIMES THEIR EVENT SPACE.
SO THAT'S DIFFICULT TO FERRET OUT HOW MUCH IS ACTUAL BOATERS VERSUS HOW MUCH IS THE OTHER USES.
GO DOWN TO KING HARBOR AND YOU'VE GOT OR UP TO KING HARBOR FROM WORKING OUR WAY NORTH.
YOU KNOW, THEY THEY'VE GOT THE THE BAY FOUNDATION IN THERE.
THEY'VE GOT AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN THERE. THEY'VE GOT LANAKILA OUT AT THE END OF THE MALL.
YOU'VE GOT A PARK THAT'S OUT AT THE END OF THE MALL.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND FISHING OFF THE GALVESTON WALL THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF USES THERE THAT ARE THAT YOU KNOW, OVERLAP.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW MARINAS THAT HAVE OPEN SLIPS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OPEN SLIPS. SO HOW DO YOU EQUIVALENT MAKE EQUIVALENT THE OPEN SLIPS TO THE USES.
SO I'M CONCERNED I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GUIDE THEM AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ON WHAT DAYS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AND HOW TO BE SURE WE'RE CONFIDENT WITH THE ALGORITHM OR THEIR METHODOLOGY FOR FIGURING OUT WHAT BOAT USES AND OTHER THAN THE PORT ROYAL MARINA.
AND I THINK WE'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T TURN OVER PORT ROYAL WITH THEIR PERMISSION, PORT ROYAL'S DATA THAT I THINK WILL, NUMBER ONE, BE GATHERED MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AND MORE OFTEN, MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THE OTHER ONES.
SO, YEAH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT THAT DATA CAN ACTUALLY HELP PROVIDE SOME BASIS FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW, AND THEY'VE ALSO GOT SHARED USES. IF YOU GO DOWN TO WHERE MY BOAT IS IN SAN PEDRO, THERE'S A HOTEL AND RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE. SO.
SO HOW DO THEY HOW IS THAT EQUIVALENT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S A STANDARD BETWEEN THE MARINAS AND THE DIFFERENT HARBORS OF HOW MUCH SPACE IS ALLOCATED IN THEIR LCP TO TO SLIP. SO WE MAY BE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE HARBOR HOLDING THEIR HAND.
I'D ALSO HOPE THAT WE PUT THIS THROUGH THE BEFORE THE RESULTS COME BACK TO US AS IT'S DRAFTED, IT GOES THROUGH HARBOR COMMISSION SO THEY CAN VET THIS BETTER THAN WE CAN, BECAUSE I THINK I'M THE ONLY BOATER AMONGST US IN THIS GROUP.
SO I THINK THEY'VE GOT BOATERS WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAT COULD HELP VET THAT.
SO THAT'S MY HOPE AS WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS STUDY.
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AND THEY'LL UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT TIME OF NEED, ETCETERA.SO WE WANT THIS TO BE A VERY STACKABLE DOCUMENT.
SO YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THE PROPOSALS. WE'LL HAVE A SCOPE OF WORK THAT ULTIMATELY, AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE. AND AND I THINK THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF THAT LOCAL INPUT AS WE GO FORWARD.
AND I HAVE PORT ROYAL'S DATA, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET THEIR FORMAL.
I WILL GET IT FROM KEVIN. I THINK WE HAVE IT.
SO IT'LL BE PART OF IT'LL BE PART OF PORT ROYAL'S LCP AMENDMENT, I BELIEVE, AS WELL.
SO I THINK THE TIMING MIGHT WORK TOGETHER WELL.
WE SHOULD SMARTLY BUNDLE, SMARTLY BUNDLE THEM.
SO WITH THAT, ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.
SECOND, OKAY, WITH A CAP OF 35,000 OR WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT? IT'S GREG'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET AND WATERFRONT.
WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING. NO, NO, THIS IS PART OF HIS GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET.
OKAY. I'VE GOT EXISTING FUNDS IN THE WATERFRONT BUDGET.
OKAY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? MAYOR. WHO IS THE SECOND? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. I'M SORRY.
BRAD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONER.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. NOTHING WRONG WITH LOOKING AT THIS.
THE VERY SIMPLE REASON IS THAT ANY BOATER WHO MOVES INTO A SLIP INITIALLY IS AN ENTHUSIASTIC, ACTIVE VOTER. LET SOME DECADES ROLL BY. AND AS WE PAINFULLY KNOW, THERE'S JUST AN AWFUL LOT OF BOATS THAT AREN'T GOING OUT VERY OFTEN.
OKAY. SO SIMPLE LOGIC. WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
YEAH. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH. AND SO I THINK STUDYING IS A GREAT IDEA.
I JUST WANT TO CAUTION A LITTLE BIT THAT I'M VERY AWARE THAT THE MOLE B, OUTRIGGER AND SUBTENANT AREA IS TOTALLY MAXED OUT, AND PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING FOR SPACE WHENEVER THEY'VE GOT ANYTHING BIG GOING ON THERE.
I'M VERY AWARE THAT OVER AT PORTOFINO, SOMETIMES I HAVE A HECK OF A TIME FINDING A PARKING PLACE, AND I HAVE TO BEG THE PORTOFINO HOTEL GUY CAN, CAN YOU GET ME A FAKE SPACE SOMEPLACE WHERE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE? AND HE LETS ME ME IN. SO JUST BECAUSE OVER IN THE UNIQUE CASE OF PORT ROYAL, OKAY, WHEREAS THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, WELL, WELL LAYS OUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH ONLY MARINA PARKING AND THERE MAY BE ABSOLUTELY LOGICAL TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT, BUT WE I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO REDUCE MARINA PARKING NECESSARILY IN AREAS WHERE IT'S MAXING OUT.
WE DON'T WANT OUR SLIP TENANTS TO COME DRIVING IN FOR THE WEEKEND.
AND BECAUSE PORTOFINO GOT A BIGGER EVENT GOING ON, OR THE OUTRIGGERS HAVE A BIG EVENT GOING ON, THEY CAN'T PARK TO GET TO THEIR BOATS AND USE THEM.
CERTAINLY I KNOW IN OUR UNIQUE SITUATION AT KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB, WHERE WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TRIANGLE OUT THERE WE ARE ROUTINELY MAXED OUT EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT FOR TWILIGHTS. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE PARKING.
PARKING ILLEGALLY, ANY KIND OF BIG EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WIPED OUT OUT THERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY OVERFLOWING.
PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GO OUT AND PAY TO PARK IN THE MARINA PARKING.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH THAT ONE MAXED OUT. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO MIKE OVER AT KING HARBOR MARINA, FIND OUT HOW OFTEN THEY'RE MAXING OUT, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF THAT ONE.
SO I HOPE THOSE CAUTIONS ARE HELPFUL. THANKS.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE NO ECOMMENTS OR ZOOM.
OKAY, I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR? AYE.
ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD REPORT. OKAY. JUMPING DOWN TO O, CITY MANAGER ITEMS.
[O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS]
YEAH. JUST ONE HOUSEKEEPING TONIGHT. WE, AS I MENTIONED AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE DO NOT HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 11TH.NEXT TUESDAY, IT'S VETERAN'S DAY. CITY HALL IS CLOSED.
FEDERAL HOLIDAY. WE WILL HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLE THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASE TO OUR LOCAL TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND THE PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FROM A BALANCE STANDPOINT. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER THAT WILL LIKELY BE A DISCUSSION MATERIAL AS WELL FOR THAT NIGHT.
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SO THE 18TH WILL BE PRETTY HEAVY. AND WE WILL NOT HAVE A MEETING ON THE 25TH, THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING.SO AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT YOUR OWN CALENDARS AT HOME, FEEL FREE TO PLAN FOR SOME TIME WITH FAMILY.
THAT'S IT. OKAY, WE'RE DOWN TO Q, MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF.
[Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF]
COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. NONE TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.I JUST HAVE ONE. I'D LIKE TO REVISIT THE THE BEER AND WINE ABILITY OF GAS STATIONS TO SELL BEER AND WINE IN THE COASTAL ZONE. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO TWO STATIONS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT AGAIN. I'D SECOND THAT.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. REPEALING THE PROHIBITION.
I'M SORRY. DISCUSS REPEALING THE PROHIBITION.
YES. ON WHAT? SELLING BEER AND WINE AT THE GAS STATIONS IN THE COASTAL ZONE.
THE GAS STATION. GAS STATIONS. GAS STATIONS. THEY'RE.
THEY'RE PROHIBITED. CARVED OUT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.
NO THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU. AND I HAVE NONE. SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
[R. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION]
WE WOULD BE ADJOURNING TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.CLOSED SESSION AT 4:30. REGULAR SESSION AT 6 P.M.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.