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[00:00:04]

COMMISSION, IT IS WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19TH, 2025.

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE MEETING GO TO ORDER. JACK, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER TANER HAS ALREADY NOTIFIED US HE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE.

COMMISSIONER PITZELE. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN-HERRERA.

HERE. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY. HERE. AND COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE.

HERE. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ IS NOT YET HERE. AND COMMISSIONER GOLD ALSO INFORMED THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IF WE CAN ALL STAND AND SALUTE TO THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. OKAY.

OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA AS IS? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA AS IS.

A SECOND. A SECOND. A SECOND. OKAY. SO O'BRIEN AND LAWRENCE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. ARE THERE? NO? I'M GOING TO READ IT.

BLUE FOLDER ITEMS ARE ADDITIONAL BACKUP. THERE ARE NO.

THERE ARE NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. OKAY, PERFECT. WE CAN JUST MOVE ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR.

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

BUSINESS ITEMS, EXCEPT THOSE FORMALLY NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED, AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW.

THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

COMMISSIONERS. WE DO HAVE AN E COMMENT FOR ONE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY SO IS THERE ANY ALSO ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO PULL ANYTHING BECAUSE DON'T WE DEAL WITH DO THE COMMISSION AND THEN WE GO TO PUBLIC OR DOES IT MATTER FOR CONSENT CALENDAR? I JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IS IT ITEM F.3? YES. AM I CORRECT? OKAY. SO ITEM F.3 IS THE ONE WITH THE ECOMMENTS.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU GUYS WANT TO PULL AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

OTHERWISE YOU CAN VOTE ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I'M SO SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. SO ITEM F.3 IS THE ONE THAT HAS AN ECOMMENT ATTACHED TO IT.

OKAY. IT'S UP TO YOU IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

OTHERWISE WE CAN APPROVE ALL OF THEM IN ONE MOTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL F.3 AS WELL FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY. SO IS THERE SO THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL F.3 AND THEN WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT, RIGHT? OR YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION TO PULL IT. BUT WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND THEN BECAUSE WE DO THAT IN G.

YES. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO SHALL WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS AND DO THE F.3 THEN. SO THAT WAY THE, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO.

WELL, YEAH, THAT'S THE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. NO, THAT'LL THAT'LL GO THE COMMENT WILL NOW GO INTO FOR DISCUSSION UNDER THE THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. BUT YOU HAVE TO FINISH UP.

YEAH. SO BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER.

APPROVE THE REMAINDER. SO IS THERE APPROVAL FOR THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS F.1, F.2, AND F.4? I MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. OKAY, A SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY. TANER AND LAWRENCE. SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, NOW WE CAN GO TO THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.

[G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE F.3, WHICH IS JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND REPORT AND STATUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AND FUNDING FUNDED PROJECTS.

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WOULD YOU LIKE THE ECOMMENT TO BE READ ON THAT ITEM? IS THAT OR WOULD YOU? I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT ACTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU, DO WE? BECAUSE NORMALLY WE DO THE COMMISSION FIRST AND THEN GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING THE ORDER OF YES, SINCE THIS IS A NOW WE HAVE BOTH RIGHT.

THIS IS SINCE THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PULLED. IT'S A MATTER OF WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OR WHETHER WE CAN READ THE COMMENT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT.

AND THEN WE WOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON THAT ITEM ON ITEM F.3.

OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO, SHOULD WE START OFF READING THE COMMENT? LET'S START OFF WITH READING THE COMMENT AND THEN. SURE.

THIS IS FROM MARICELA GUILLERMO. SHE SAYS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION OR CITY STAFF INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT ONE OF ANY PROPOSED PROPOSED ARTWORK FOR OUR DISTRICT.

THIS COMMUNICATION WILL ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE INFORMED AND ABLE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY FAMILY AND I FEEL THE CITY NEEDS TO EXPLORE OTHER ART AVENUES BEYOND MURALS.

I ALSO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THE ACTIVE GROUPS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING TO KEEP OUR ESPLANADE CLEAN AND AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE.

RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WANT JOYFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND INSPIRING ART AS WELL AS SAFE STREETS.

MOSAIC ART, IN PARTICULAR CAN BE OFTEN VIBRANT, DURABLE AND COMMUNITY CENTERED.

BEAUTIFUL AND PLANTS CAN SERVE AS MAGNIFICENT COMPLEMENTARY ART PIECES WHEN THOUGHTFULLY PAIRED WITH MOSAIC ELEMENTS.

THERE SHOULD ALSO BE A STRONG FOCUS ON PRACTICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY CLEAN STREETS, SAFER PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCES, AND TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES SUCH AS ARTISTS DESIGNED THREE DIMENSIONAL CROSSWALKS CAN BEAUTIFY THE CITY WHILE IMPROVING SAFETY AT THE SAME TIME. I SUPPORT PUBLIC ART, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE, COMMUNITY DRIVEN, AND BALANCED WITH PRACTICAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.

END OF COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS, JACK.

WE HAVE AN ADJUSTABLE BALANCE OF $75,000 AVAILABLE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT HAVING ALLOCATED? IS THAT MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS YOU? COULD YOU COULD BRING THAT UP IN IN YOUR SECTION IF YOU WANTED TO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT'S NOT PART OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU WOULD NEED TO AGENDIZE THE ITEM. OKAY. BUT IF IT'S PART OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW LAST MEETING WE ASKED YOU FOR BREAKDOWN OF THE DEPOSITS THAT WE RECEIVE AND THE MONEY THAT GOES OUT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU SHOWED US ALL THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S COMING IN AND WHAT'S GOING OUT. IT'S NICE TO ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE DEPOSITS TO OUR JOHN PARSONS. IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN GET MORE DETAIL INTO IT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CAN WE DISCUSS THE ECOMMENT THAT WE JUST HEARD TOO? YES. YEAH. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.

WE COULD CONSIDER RIGHT. IS INSTEAD OF JUST MURALS IN THE AREA LOOKING INTO MOSAIC ART.

RIGHT. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MOSAIC ART AROUND.

RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE AND THERE'S SOME THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

SO IT'S A GREAT STARTING POINT THAT HAS SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE ESPLANADE, TOO. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS VIBRANT AND SOMETHING THAT'S LONGEVITY WISE IS GOOD, I THINK TOO. SO YES, LUCKILY WE ALREADY HAVE THE KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL, RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT REALLY UNDER US, BUT OUR CITY ALREADY HAS THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS CLEAN.

AND THAT'S GREAT. OH, AND HERE SHE IS. I'M WONDERING WHAT PART OF THE ESPLANADE THIS PARTICULAR PERSON THAT WROTE IN IS ASKING ABOUT.

THEY DON'T SPECIFY. THEY DON'T SAY. BECAUSE THE PART FROM SAY WHAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE]? IT'S, IT'LL GO FROM THERE ALL THE WAY UP TO PASEO DE LA PLAYA ON THE ESPLANADE. I MEAN, IT GOES ALL THE WAY. SO THERE'S A, IT'S ESPLANADE IS QUITE SUBSTANTIAL HEADING SOUTH FROM, SAY KNOB HILL DOWN. KNOB HILL THERE. THERE AREN'T REALLY ANY INSTALLATIONS.

I MEAN, IF WE HAD BENCHES THAT WE COULD. THERE ARE ACTUALLY.

YEAH, IN THAT AREA THERE'S BENCHES. RIGHT. AND ARE THEY CEMENT BACKS? THEY ARE, AREN'T THEY? THEY ARE. AND RIGHT NOW TOO.

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THERE WAS, DID YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT THE CAR THAT DROVE DOWN THAT AREA? THERE WAS A CAR THAT DROVE DOWN THE. THIS HAPPENED A WHILE AGO, BUT THEY'VE HAD, LIKE, FENCES UP, AND THEY'VE IT'S, LIKE, SAFE NOW, BUT IT'S NOT REPAIRED.

REALLY. AND THERE'S A BENCH AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT, AND SOMETIMES THAT BECOMES LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF, LIKE A LINGERING SPOT AND LOOKS A LITTLE ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES.

IT MIGHT BE NICE, MAYBE THAT PARTICULAR BENCH, TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THAT SPOT.

I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING AS SOON AS YOU SAID THAT.

AND THEN FROM KNOB HILL GOING NORTH MOST OF THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO THERE IS ONE PARK IN BETWEEN, WHAT'S, DIAMOND? DIAMOND. AND IT BEGINS AT DIAMOND AND GOES NORTH.

OH, VETERANS PARK? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OVER ON ESPLANADE.

OH, BY THE ESPLANADE. OH, JUST THAT TURNS INTO CATALINA, THOUGH.

THERE. THERE'S CATALINA THERE TOO. YEAH, SO I GUESS THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

WELL, ANYWAY, I THINK IF I GO THROUGH THIS, I WANT TO GIVE A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE TO EXTEND THIS OUT AS WELL, AND MAYBE TO ADDRESS MAYBE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE FOR THAT AS WELL WHEN WE GET INTO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.

MY LAST QUESTION ON OUR FUND REPORT, WE STILL HAVE THE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THE TRANSIT CENTER, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT APPROVED TO HAPPEN. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THAT MONEY OUT OF THAT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD REQUESTED THAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH OUR LAST BUDGET. ACTUALLY, IN JULY, YOU GUYS VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT MONEY BE TRANSFERRED, REALLOCATE THAT THAT PROJECT BE SUSPENDED AND REALLOCATED TO THE TO LILIENTHAL. YES. AND THAT LETTER WAS RECEIVED.

I GOT AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM THE MAYOR THANKING YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES BUDGET REALLOCATIONS OR NEW ALLOCATIONS WOULD REQUIRE A 4/5 VOTE OF THE COUNCIL ONCE THE BUDGET YEAR IS PASSED. AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BRING UP AT MID-YEAR, AT THE MID-YEAR BUDGET.

AND HE ASSURED US THAT HE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION.

OKAY. SO WE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE ON THAT FROM THEM SO EARLY.

WELL, IT'S UP TO THEM. 2026. UP TO THE COUNCIL.

OKAY. YEAH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE PLEASE. WHAT'S THE DATE FOR MID-YEAR BUDGET? IT'S TYPICALLY GOES TO COUNCIL. I WANT TO SAY FEBRUARY.

MARCH. BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE YEAR.

THE DATES HAVE NOT BEEN SOLIDIFIED YET, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE SCHEDULING.

OKAY. OKAY. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? RIGHT.

CAN WE DO THAT? WE WILL NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE. IS THERE ANY MORE? OH YES.

OR IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THE FOR ITEM F.4. YES.

F.3. F.3. EXCUSE ME F.3. OKAY. NO I WAS LIKE I THINK IT'S F.3.

F.3. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR F.3. IS IT F3? DO YOU KNOW WHAT? HI. JOAN IRVINE. DISTRICT ONE. CHAIRPERSON COMMISSIONER STAFF.

JUST WANTED TO SAY I WALKED IN. I HATE TO SAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, BUT I LOVE THE FACT THAT I WALKED IN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL. AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT UNDER M.

AND BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THIS.

AND WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AND THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME ART ON THE BOLLARDS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MOSAIC ART ON THE BOLLARDS ON THE ESPLANADE.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME ACTUALLY ON THE PAVEMENT.

I THINK THERE'S ONE AT THE NORTH SIDE AND ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE COMING THERE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE OKAY. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F.3. A SECOND. I SECOND.

OKAY. O'BRIEN AND LAWRENCE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA.

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THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.

DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.

GEORGETTE GANTNER, DISTRICT TWO. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT A WHILE AGO, JIM MUELLER AND I WALKED AROUND ALL AROUND ARTESIA FOR LIKE TWO HOURS, AND WE WERE JUST FASCINATED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WALLS THAT THERE ARE FOR POTENTIAL MURALS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, ARE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

SO THAT CAN'T BE NECESSARILY INCORPORATED INTO THE LEBASSE SITUATION.

BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE MAYBE AT SOME POINT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT WE SPOKE TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE MURALS THAT ARE IN HERMOSA BEACH, THAT THEY DID A PROJECT, TEN MURALS IN TEN YEARS, AND THAT WAS FUNDED PRIVATELY, BASICALLY.

AND THEY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB. THE ARTISTS, I MEAN, IT'S BEYOND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

AND IT WAS VETTED. SO IT WASN'T JUST ANYBODY PUTTING STUFF UP.

SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, GOING FORWARD. IT CONCERNS ME THAT AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO SEE MURALS DONE WHAT KIND OF CONTROL CAN BE EXERTED BY THIS BODY, OR BY LABASSE OR BY THE CITY.

SO AT LEAST THERE'S A PLAN. WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT A MURAL UP, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S THE THEME? OR WHAT'S THE ARTIST? AND AS OPPOSED TO LET'S JUST SLAP SOMETHING UP FOR MY KID TO THIS OR WHATEVER, WHICH THAT'S FINE, KIDS ARE GOOD. THEY CAN HAVE GOOD ART TOO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF A A PLAN DONE.

AND THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN. BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION WE COUNTED I THINK THERE WERE LIKE 80 WALLS, BUT THERE WERE LIKE 40 THAT WERE DEFINITELY PROMINENT WHERE PEOPLE COULD SEE FROM ALL ANGLES.

AND IT'S KIND OF EXCITING THAT THAT'S AN AVAILABILITY.

SO WHATEVER CAN HAPPEN THERE, I WHO KNOWS SOMETHING GOOD, I HOPE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY. WE DO HAVE TO ZOOM COMMENTS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE REQUESTING TO SPEAK. OKAY. FIRST UP, WE'LL START WITH MARCIE GUILLERMO.

HELLO. YES, HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARCIE GUILLERMO.

I AM A 20 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE.

I HAD TO ESCAPE OTHER COMMITMENTS TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE NEW MURAL AT THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD ON CATALINA AVENUE.

I DO SUPPORT PUBLIC ART. THIS LOCATION. HOWEVER, THIS LOCATION IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOMES AND A VERY, VERY NARROW SIDEWALK. BECAUSE OF THIS PEDESTRIAN SETTING, THE MURAL FEELS VISUALLY OVERWHELMING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE INVESTED. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED A SIMPLER, MORE CIVIC APPROPRIATE DESIGN, SUCH AS CITY LOGO, NEUTRAL TONES, OR A PLANT WALL WITH A SMALL, UNDERSTATED MURAL.

THESE OPTIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN BLENDED MORE NATURALLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.

FURTHERMORE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ADVANCED NOTIFICATION TO THE APPROPRIATE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR ANY PROPOSED PUBLIC ART NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AND YOU CAN GET OUR INPUT SO WE CAN PARTICIPATE MORE AS A COMMUNITY. AND A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THAT DOCUMENT WHERE WE LIST ALL THE PROJECTS, RIGHT.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO ADD A COUPLE OF COLUMNS. ONE OF THEM IS WHERE IS THE PROPOSED ART BEING PROPOSED.

THE DISTRICT ONE, TWO, THREE, 4 OR 5. AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT GOES WITH THAT DISTRICT.

THAT WAY, WHEN THE PUBLIC GOES AND TAKES A LOOK AT IT.

SO, OH, I NEED TO DO THIS SO I CAN CHECK WITH MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO, BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT AND JUST LET'S GO BEYOND MURALS. THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF ARTS THAT IT MAY NOT COST AS MUCH, AND WE CAN ASK THE RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE.

AT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH THEY DO THIS MOSAIC ART WITH ARTISTS AND THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATES.

SO THE COST IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. SO PLEASE LET'S EXPLORE OTHER TYPE OF ARTS AND YEAH.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE MORE AND MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM ZOOM.

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THIS IS FROM ZEIN. ZEIN. SORRY. HOWDY. CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK WORKING WITH ERNESTO MARANJE TO DEVELOP SEA CHATTER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO GO DOWN CATALINA AND SEE THE PROGRESS OF THE PIECE OF ART.

BUT IT IS PHENOMENALLY POWERFUL AND THERE IS SO MUCH EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT.

IT'S BEEN VIEWED ON MY IN A REEL THAT I MADE JUST FOR THE FIRST KIND OF DAYS OF THE PAINTING, OVER 5000 TIMES, LIKED OVER 100 TIMES, AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY, CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MURAL TO COME TO NORTH REDONDO.

SO REALLY WELL DONE ON THAT. IT'S POWERFUL. AS YOU DRIVE DOWN CATALINA BECAUSE OF THE DOWNGRADE TO SEE THAT WHALE SHARK THERE.

AND IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AND IT PAIRS REALLY WELL WITH THE MURAL THAT THE VFW HAS PUT ON ITS WALLS.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO JACK MEYER, BECAUSE HE'S TAKEN PHOTOS PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY AND SENT THEM TO CITY COUNCIL JUST SO WE COULD TRACK THE PROGRESS OF IT.

SO WELL DONE. KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL ON THAT PROJECT.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. ANYBODY? THAT IS ALL OUR ECOMMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO? AND WE HAVE NO WRITTEN REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S. FINE. OKAY. SO NOW WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION. AND SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH.

[J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

OKAY. RIGHT. JACK. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ONE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION ELECTION OF OFFICERS CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON. SO HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD? AND I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU OPEN NOMINATIONS. OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP NOMINATIONS FOR THE NEW CHAIR, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF I CAN FOR MICHELLE O'BRIEN AS CHAIR.

DOES ANYBODY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. SO ALL IN.

SO CLOSED NOMINATIONS, AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE CLOSED NOMINATIONS, AND WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE SO WE CAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT? YOU NEED A SECOND? WELL, WE JUST DID.

I SECOND THE MOTION. AND THEN. YES, YES. IT'S OKAY.

AND THEN LAWRENCE. SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.

CAN WE USE THE GAVEL BECAUSE IT'S OFFICIAL? [LAUGHS] OKAY.

AND NOW WE'LL DO FOR VICE CHAIR. RIGHT? ARE THERE ANY TAKERS FOR VICE CHAIR? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO NOMINATE? NOMINEE? WELL I DON'T. DO YOU WANT TO BE VICE CHAIR? BECAUSE YOU YOU KNOW, I WILL GLADLY BE VICE CHAIR, BUT I BUT I ALSO LOVE TO GIVE ANYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO. BUT I WOULD GLADLY TAKE VICE CHAIR.

BUT I WANT IT TO BE OPEN TO YOU ALL AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO TRY NEW THINGS.

BUT THERE'S NO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER CHRRISTIAN KELLY FOR VICE CHAIR.

I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY, NOW IT'S O'BRIEN. IT'S YOUR TURN.

YOU HAD TO. I JUST DO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OKAY, NOW YOU CAN GO ON TO.

OKAY. RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO GO ON TO J.2. OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE J.2. RECEIVE AND FILE THE PROPOSED ARTESIA BOULEVARD STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO JUST DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION BEFORE WE PASS IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT TEAM.

AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION WE'LL GET ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU IN JUST A MOMENT.

OH, SORRY. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME. THANK YOU.

SO JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

SO THE BASICS OF THE PROJECT IS THAT THE CITY ENTERED INTO A CONSULTATION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LEBASSEPROJECTS OTHERWISE KNOWN

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AS LBP. YOU MAY SEE THAT THROUGHOUT OUR REPORT, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE PLAN AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY WERE TASKED TO DO IS TO DEVELOP A STRATEGIC ART PLAN FOR ARTESIA BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WHICH SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT IS BETWEEN AVIATION BOULEVARD AND INGLEWOOD AVENUE.

AND JUST SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES OF THE AACAP.

AND SO THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING STEP FORWARD INTO REALLY RE-ENVISIONING ARTESIA BOULEVARD.

JUST AGAIN, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. SPECIFIC FOR WHAT THE WHAT THE LEBASSE TEAM IS WAS TASKED WITH DOING, AS WELL AS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IS PHASE ONE.

SO THIS ENTIRE PROJECT AND THE PLAN, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IN JUST A MOMENT, INCLUDES TWO PHASES SPECIFIC TO WHAT HAS BEEN FUNDED IS JUST PHASE ONE. AND SO WHILE THE PLAN DOES MENTION PHASE TWO OPTIONS, JUST KNOW THAT PHASE ONE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S FUNDED.

AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE CAN REALLY START TAKING ACTIONABLE STEPS TOWARDS.

AND SO TASK ONE WITHIN THAT INCLUDES THE SWOT ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THAT PROPOSED AND DRAFT PLAN THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY GUIDE STAFF, AS WELL AS THE TEAM AND COMMUNITY, SELECT COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTO SELECTING ARTISTS AND INSTALLATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WILL COMPLETE BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. AND THIS IS JUST A VERY, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S A LITTLE PIXELATED, BUT THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW BECAUSE WITHIN PHASE ONE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TASKS. AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY, LIKE I SAID ON FOR TASK ONE, WE'RE IN OUR SWOT ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH INCLUDES SEVERAL STEPS. WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR COMMUNITY MEETING.

AND ACTUALLY THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPDATED I APOLOGIZE, BUT THE STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH AND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETED.

SO REALLY THOSE TOP THREE ITEMS ARE COMPLETE.

WE ARE ON THE SECOND TO LAST ITEM, WHICH IS THE DRAFT PLAN PRESENTED TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

AND TO COMPLETE THIS TASK, WE WILL PRESENT THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN DECEMBER.

AND THAT PRESENTATION WILL INCLUDE ANY INPUT WE RECEIVE FROM YOU THIS EVENING.

AND SO BEFORE I GO INTO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION, ACTUALLY, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY TELL YOU THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE LABASSE TEAM. SO FOR TONIGHT, WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PROPOSED STRATEGIC ART PLAN, WHICH YOU ALL RECEIVED IN THE AGENDA PACKET, PROVIDE INPUT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

I DO ASK THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION, THAT ANY INPUT THAT YOU WANT TO FORMALLY SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL IS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION, AND WE CAN KIND OF HELP GUIDE YOU DURING THAT.

AND THEN AS AN ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN THE ADMIN REPORT, BUT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT PLAN THAT WE WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT ON IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER TO RECOMMEND THE INCLUSION OF THE PROPOSED LGBTQ STATUE THAT HAS TENTATIVELY BEEN SLATED TO GO IN FRONT OF THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY. WHETHER WE SHOULD INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF ONE OF THE PHASES OR IN THIS PLAN, OR IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, THE BENEFITS TO THAT IS THAT IF IT'S PART OF THIS PLAN, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE FUNDED BECAUSE WE WOULD WE WOULD ADD IT AS PART OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO, IF IT'S A STANDALONE PLAN OR, EXCUSE ME, STANDALONE PROJECT.

THERE'S NO ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR IT JUST YET.

DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ALLOCATE FUNDING. WE DO HAVE SOME AVAILABLE FUNDS IN JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL STEP IN THAT PROCESS IF WE WERE TO DO IT AS A STANDALONE.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO BEAU LEBASSE.

HE IS OUR CONSULTANT THAT WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS PROJECT, AND I'M GOING TO PULL UP HIS PRESENTATION AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BEAU.

HI, EVERYBODY. COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PRESENTATION.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TOP LINE IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MEAT IN THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF STRATEGY IN THERE. PLEASE STOP ME.

I'M, IF I SPOKE BEFORE, WE'VE DONE. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO ANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, I TEND TO BE REALLY CASUAL.

IF YOU WANT TO STOP, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. LET'S JUST GET THROUGH IT AS WE GO VERSUS WAITING TO THE END. WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

I WISH KIM [INAUDIBLE] FROM MY TEAM WAS ABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT.

SHE'S REALLY SICK, BUT SHE'S THE ONE AND I HAVE TO GIVE HER CREDIT.

SHE'S KIND OF BEEN THE AUTHOR OF A LOT OF THIS.

SHE'S SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE GROUND IN ARTESIA [INAUDIBLE] MY TEAM.

I KNOW SHE'S SPOKEN TO A BUNCH OF YOU AS WELL AND BEEN PART OF ALL ALL OF THE MEETINGS AND PROCESS.

SO NORMALLY I THINK SHE WOULD BE HERE PRESENTING OR AT LEAST HERE WITH ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE'S GIVEN THE CREDIT SHE DESERVES.

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SO SORT OF TOP LINE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THIS PUBLIC ART PLAN, THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS AGAIN, AS PART OF THE AACAP.

WE'RE SORT OF LIKE THE EARLY STAGE. SO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE FUTURE AND PLANNING OF THIS ARTESIA CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE. WE SORT OF, AS WE PUT IT TOGETHER, WE LOOKED AT SORT OF FOUR PILLARS.

RIGHT. SO WE WANTED TO REALLY CONNECT. AND THE FIRST STAGE FOR US IS ALWAYS CONNECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, HAVING AS MUCH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS POSSIBLE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ENHANCE THE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, WITH WE ALWAYS SAY LIKE DESIGN WITH INTENTION.

AND THAT IS NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL DESIGN, BUT HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THE TYPOLOGIES OF ARTWORK.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE STRATEGICALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THEM.

WE REALLY WANT TO INNOVATE AND INSPIRE THROUGH CREATIVITY. AND AGAIN, WORKING IN COMMUNITIES AND WE'VE WORKED ON A LOT OF COMMUNITIES.

IT'S IT'S LIKE THE CALLER TALKED ABOUT HAVING JOYFUL ART AND HAVING ART THAT SORT OF CONNECTS AND INSPIRES THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, LIKE EVERYTHING WE DO, TRIES TO LOOK THROUGH THAT LENS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WANT TO CELEBRATE. WE WANT TO CELEBRATE THE SORT OF IDENTITY AND CULTURE OF REDONDO BEACH ITSELF, AND PARTICULARLY THE SORT OF NORTH REDONDO. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALL BASED IN LOS ANGELES, BUT WE DON'T LIVE IN REDONDO. AND WE KEPT HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW IT'S THIS IS A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE BEACH. NORTH REDONDO AND THE ARTESIA CORRIDOR IS DIFFERENT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS SORT OF CELEBRATING THAT INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY AS WELL. SO AGAIN, OUR SORT OF GOAL AND OVERALL VISION WAS REALLY TO SORT OF HELP SUPPORT THIS CORRIDOR AS A VIBRANT CULTURAL GATEWAY. WE WANT TO HELP SUPPORT THE TRANSFORMATION, THIS CORRIDOR.

WE WANT TO ENHANCE THE EVERYDAY EXPERIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY, BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

I THINK WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH CITY STAFF.

I KNOW KIM HAS SPOKEN TO MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE NRBBA. WE HAD AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING, WE HAD A Q&A MEETING.

WE HAD AN OPEN COMMUNITY FORUM. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER.

WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TURN OUT TO OUR OPEN COMMUNITY FORUM, WHICH WAS GREAT.

I, I THINK IT WENT A LOT LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED.

BUT I HAD A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET INPUT AND DIRECT INPUT POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FROM, FROM QUITE A FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE.

WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER AN ONLINE SURVEY. WE HAD OVER 170 RESPONDENTS.

AND WHILE THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG NUMBER, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU COMPARED TO WE'VE DONE SIMILAR PROJECTS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAS BLOWN AWAY THE RESPONSE. BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE GETTING MORE SPAM EMAIL, RIGHT? IT'S SORT OF LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OPEN THIS DOCUMENT, TAKE THE TIME TO FILL OUT 25 PLUS QUESTIONS, RIGHT? WITH REALLY THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS. SO FOR US TO GET 170 RESPONSES WAS ACTUALLY, I THINK REALLY, REALLY GOOD. SPEAKS REALLY HIGHLY TO HOW ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY IS HERE.

SO THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE WE SPENT THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS SORT OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, FIGURING OUT THE SORT OF KEY STAKEHOLDERS WHO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE SPOKE WITH. I THINK WE CAN KEEP GOING.

I'M GOING TO ZIP THROUGH THESE. YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEND.

WE BASICALLY OUTLINED EVERY QUESTION AND SORT OF LIKE PIE CHARTED THE RESULTS AND ANSWERS.

WE GOT. AGAIN 90 ALMOST 95% LIVED IN REDONDO.

THE REMAINING EITHER WORKED OR SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

KELLY, YOU CAN PROBABLY SCROLL THROUGH THESE. I THINK FOR US, THE BIG TAKEAWAY A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT THERE WERE A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO ARTESIA CORRIDOR.

WE HEARD A LOT OF ISSUES ABOUT TRAFFIC SPEEDS, SAFETY CONCERNS.

POOR ESTHETICS CAME UP QUITE OFTEN. LACK OF SHADE, GREENERY.

THE THE PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEY WERE NOT SAFE CROSSINGS.

SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE AGAIN, NOT ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ART.

IT WAS A LOT OF IT WAS SOMETIMES WE'RE LIKE, HOW HOW IS THIS CORRIDOR BEING USED? HOW DOES, WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THE COMMUNITY HAVE WITH THE CORRIDOR? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEARD IN TERMS OF CHALLENGES.

PEOPLE WANTED GATHERING SPACES. THEY WANTED TO ELEVATE THE CITY'S IMAGE.

THEY WANTED TO FIND ART THAT WOULD HELP ELEVATE THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY WANTED ARTWORK THAT WOULD EXPRESS COMMUNITY PRIDE. AND AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO JUST SORT OF GIVE YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSES A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT CREATING VISUAL CHARACTER FOR THE CORRIDOR MORE WALKABLE.

WE HEARD THAT A LOT PEOPLE WANTED THE ABILITY TO WALK THE CORRIDOR IN TERMS OF, LIKE, THE TYPOLOGIES OF ARTWORK.

WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT MURALS, A LOT OF FUNCTIONAL SCULPTURAL LANDMARKS CAME UP QUITE A BIT AGAIN.

THAT TIES IN WITH SORT OF PEOPLE'S WANTS AND CONCERNS, RIGHT? LIKE IF THEY WANT ARTWORK THAT EXPRESSES CIVIC PRIDE.

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PEOPLE I THINK ARE ENVISIONING LANDMARK WORKS.

I MADE A NOTE FROM THE CALLER. THE JOYFUL CLEAN STREETS, SAFER MEASURES, CONTEXT DRIVEN.

SO THAT LITERALLY ECHOES EVERYTHING IN ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED.

AND DISTRIBUTING ARTWORK ACROSS THE CORRIDOR, I THINK, CAME UP QUITE OFTEN AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE EVERYTHING CLUSTERED IN ONE SPOT OR THE OTHER. I THINK PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE IT TOUCH ALL THE WAY ACROSS. THAT, THAT SORT OF LIKE TOP LINE. BUT AGAIN, LIKE, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSES WE CAN ACTUALLY SHARE.

IF ANYBODY REALLY WANTS TO DIG IN, WE CAN SHARE ALL OF THE DATA WITH ANYBODY.

BUT WE TRY TO REALLY TOP LINE IT IN THE STRATEGIC ART PLAN.

AND THE REASON WE REALLY LIKE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO OUR STRATEGY AND WHAT WE THINK MAKES THE MOST SENSE IN TERMS OF LIKE ALLOCATING NOT JUST THE LOCATIONS OF THE ARTWORK, BUT ALLOCATING THE BUDGET AND HOW TO SORT OF MAXIMIZE ITS USE.

I MEAN, WE COULD SAY LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE BIG THING, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT BUDGET, ALLOCATE AS MANY LOCATIONS AS POSSIBLE AND TOUCH AS MANY POINTS AND TOUCH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

HAVING THAT INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY IS IS REALLY KEY FOR US TO EVEN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. LET'S SEE LOCATIONS. I THINK THERE ARE FOUR KEY POINTS HERE, REALLY THREE KEY SORT OF LOCATION STRATEGIES.

AND THEN SORT OF A FOURTH POINT THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO POINT OUT WE REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE CITY GATEWAYS.

ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME CAN WE GO BACKWARDS? CAN WE GO TO NUMBER FOUR FIRST? ACTUALLY I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HEARD WE'VE HEARD IT TONIGHT. EVEN PEOPLE WANT MURALS.

PEOPLE WANT DIFFERENT ACTIVATIONS. PEOPLE. EVERYONE HAS GREAT IDEAS.

WE HAD SOMEBODY COME TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND WAS REALLY BIG ON LIKE PUSHING.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MUSIC, WE NEED MUSIC, WE DON'T NEED VISUAL ART.

AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, SIR, BUT BUT WHAT WE'RE TASKED WITH AND THE BUDGET WE HAVE IS FOR VISUAL ART.

THE CHALLENGE FOR US ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, AND WE HAD TO BRING IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY QUITE OFTEN, IS THAT LIKE, WE WOULD LOVE TO IMPLEMENT A MURAL PROGRAM.

THE EXPERIENCES WE'VE HAD WITH OTHER CITIES DOING SIMILAR PROJECTS.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY HAS CONTROL OVER EVERY LOCATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ART IN.

IT ENDS UP BEING A LOT OF WORK AND AGAIN, MULTIPLE CHALLENGES.

IF A PRIVATE BUILDING OWNER SAYS, AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT I'M JUST SORT OF REITERATING IS THAT SOMEBODY CAN SAY, YOU CAN PAINT A WALL, PAINT THIS WALL. BUT IN SIX MONTHS, WHEN THAT BUILDING OWNER SELLS THAT BUILDING AND THE NEW OWNER DOESN'T WANT THAT MURAL ANYMORE, THE CITY IS NOW SPENT $30,000 ON A MURAL THAT'S GETTING WHITEWASHED, RIGHT? SO UNLESS THE CITY HAS CONTROL. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO GET ACROSS TO THE COMMUNITY AND SORT OF LIKE BOTH IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AT THE NRBBA MEETINGS AND INDIVIDUAL CALLS, IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE WOULD LOVE TO DO AND LOVE TO PUT OUR HANDS ON AND LOVE TO USE MONEY FOR.

BUT UNLESS THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY, WE CAN'T DO IT.

ALONG THE BIKE PATH THERE WERE SOME GREAT LOCATIONS, BUT THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THOSE.

DOESN'T OWN THOSE LOCATIONS. SO WE ORIGINALLY HAD A LOT OF THOSE THINGS IN OUR LOCATION STRATEGY.

WE HAD TO TAKE THEM OUT AGAIN, SOME SORT OF GOING BACKWARDS.

BUT IN TERMS OF OUR STRATEGY, THAT WAS THAT'S LIKE A NEGATIVE LOGISTIC WHERE LIKE WE WOULD LOVE TO USE THAT LOCATION, BUT WE CAN'T WE DON'T OWN IT. IN TERMS OF THE LOCATIONS WE DID SELECT WE COULD GO BACK PAGE.

SORRY, KELLY. WE REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE CITY GATEWAYS TO AGAIN, WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT ENHANCING CIVIC PRIDE, HAVING SOME SOME LANDMARKS AND HAVING SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT REALLY STOOD OUT.

WE LOVE SMALL HIDDEN DISCOVERY THINGS, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A COUPLE OF LANDMARKS.

WE REALLY WANTED TO OPTIMIZE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. WE TALK ABOUT FUNCTIONAL ART.

AND AGAIN, THAT REALLY TOUCHES TO THE WALKABILITY THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.

THERE ARE. AND WE CAN SHOW YOU THE MAP LATER. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW BENCHES BUS STOPS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SORT OF FUNCTIONAL ELEMENTS, BUT THEY ARE I MEAN, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR THEY WERE INSTALLED, BUT THEY'RE TIRED. THEY DON'T STAND OUT. THEY'RE SORT OF LIKE ANONYMOUS.

AND SO WE LOOK AT THOSE AS OPPORTUNITIES TO I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S A A SORT OF COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND WE KEPT HEARING THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO WALK FROM THERE DOWN TO THE STORES, BUT HAD NOWHERE TO STOP AND SIT.

RIGHT. AND I GET IT. MY FATHER'S 81 LIVES IN MANHATTAN BEACH.

YOU CAN ONLY WALK A BLOCK OR TWO AT A TIME BEFORE HE'S GOT TO TAKE A BREAK. SO HAVING SOME FUNCTIONAL ART OPPORTUNITIES IS SORT OF LIKE THE SECOND KEY FOR US.

AND THEN THE THIRD WE CAN KEEP GOING IS MORE DISCOVERY MOMENTS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AS SOMETHING THAT, LIKE, PEOPLE KIND OF STUMBLE UPON, WE REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF, LIKE, CROSSWALK MURALS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT TRAFFIC, LIKE, WE NEED TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN.

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AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT A GIANT PUBLIC ART STOP SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, BUT WE CAN DO THINGS THAT WILL SORT OF LIKE, SORT OF SUBTLY SLOW PEOPLE DOWN WHEN THEY SEE, LIKE A BRIGHTLY COLORED CROSSWALK VERSUS JUST A WHAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FLYING THROUGH REGULAR STOPS.

BUT SO THOSE ARE SORT OF OUR LIKE OUR GENERAL STRATEGIES IN TERMS OF TYPOLOGY IN TERMS OF LOCATIONS, WE CAN SORT OF KEEP GOING. AND THIS SORT OF MAP LOOKS AT EACH OF THE MEDIANS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER WHAT IS THIS, LIKE EIGHT, NINE MEDIAN SCULPTURES? WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF BUDGET, BUT WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE POTENTIAL MEDIANS, AND THERE'S A WELCOME SIGN.

THERE'S A WELCOME SIGN ON THE WEST SIDE ENTRY THROUGH ARTESIA.

IT'S A VERY SMALL, VERY SUBTLE. AND WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE COULD USE THAT WELCOME SIGN AND USE A PIECE OF ART TO CREATE THAT WELCOME.

MAYBE EVEN INCLUDE THAT WELCOME. HAVE AN ARTIST DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIAL, A LITTLE BRIGHTER, A LITTLE MORE COLORFUL, THAT SORT OF LIKE ANCHORS ONE END AND THEN POTENTIAL MEDIAN SCULPTURES UP AND DOWN THE OTHER END.

THOSE MEDIAN SCULPTURES CAN BE EITHER PHYSICAL LIGHTING INSTALLATIONS.

WE HAVE A PIECE THAT'S IN FABRICATION FOR THE CITY OF GLENDALE RIGHT NOW.

THAT IS A REALLY COOL SCULPTURE THAT ALSO HAS A WHOLE LIGHTING ELEMENT.

SO AT NIGHT IT LIGHTS UP. AND AGAIN, HOW CAN WE USE ART TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, AS BOTH A PHYSICAL LANDMARK, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S LIT AT NIGHT THAT CREATES A MORE WELCOMING, WARMER ENVIRONMENT.

AND AGAIN, WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS, WALKING AND HAVING IT BE MORE WELCOMING.

SO HOW CAN WE USE ART TO SORT OF ELEVATE THEM, TO CONNECT WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS? CAN I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE LIGHTING AS ART.

I THINK WE SAW THAT A LOT IN HERE, THAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME THINGS. SOMEBODY EVEN MENTIONED CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, RIGHT? BUT I LOVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S THE ART WILL BE SAFE IF WE PUT IT IN A MEDIAN? OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAPPEN WHERE ACCIDENTS MIGHT HAPPEN WITH CARS AND THINGS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ART DOESN'T CAUSE AN ISSUE OR ISN'T IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN A CASE OF BEING HARMED EITHER. NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHEN WE GET INTO THE ART SELECTION PROCESS AND WE CAN, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER DEEP DIVE.

CONSERVATION AND MAINTENANCE IS BORING. BUT WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

IT CAME UP QUITE A BIT ABOUT DAMAGE TO THE ARTWORK. RIGHT.

OUR WORK THAT'S GOING TO SURVIVE AND LAST A LONG TIME.

THOSE BORING LOGISTICS ARE SOME OF THE FIRST THINGS WE THINK ABOUT. SO AS WE'RE VETTING ARTISTS, ASK FOR VETTING CONCEPTS. ASK FOR SORT OF LIKE WORKING WITH THE SORT OF SELECTION PANEL TO SELECT OUR WORK.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TEND TO BE THE TOP OF OUR SORT OF LIKE MENTAL CHECKLIST THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.

SO LIKE THE BORING THINGS LIKE THAT, WE THINK ABOUT PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, LEANING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN IN TERMS OF LIKE SCULPTURES, ANYTHING THAT GETS INSTALLED IS GOING TO HAVE AN ENGINEERING REPORT THAT WILL HAVE TO GET APPROVED BY THE CITY'S ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'VE AGAIN, I KNOW THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T THINK THAT, BUT WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE LIKE, OH, IS THAT GOING TO FALL OVER? LIKE, NO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WILL BE ENGINEERED FOR SAFETY, APPROVED BY THE CITY'S ENGINEERING, BY CITY STAFF, PUBLIC WORKS. SO THERE ARE ALWAYS MULTIPLE CHECKPOINTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S GETTING INSTALLED. THANK YOU.

IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT'S COMING, BUT. BUT WE DEFINITELY ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE. OKAY. SO THIS IS SORT OF THE WELCOME SIGN LOCATION.

AND DID I TAKE THE PICTURE OF THE WELCOME SIGN OUT.

IT'S A REALLY IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE WELCOME SIGN IT'S A VERY YOU WOULD ALMOST MISS IT.

IT'S SORT OF A SAD LITTLE WELCOME SIGN. AND AGAIN SORT OF MEDIANS THE SECOND TYPE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SORT OF THESE FUNCTIONAL ART OPPORTUNITIES. AND AGAIN, WE HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT MOSAICS.

I'M NOT SAYING ALL THE BENCHES WILL BE MOSAICS, BUT THERE ARE 15 CONCRETE BENCHES.

SO THEY'RE EITHER ONE, 2 OR 3 SETS. SO WE'VE DONE AN INVENTORY OF ALL THE BENCHES.

THERE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN DEPENDING ON THE ARTISTS WE SELECT AND DEPENDING ON THE DESIGNS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO US, THEY COULD BE PAINTED, THEY COULD BE TILED. WE SORT OF MOSAIC TILE LIKE THIS.

WE DO HAVE THE BUDGET ALLOCATION, I THINK COMFORTABLY TO DO I THINK EIGHT IN THE FIRST PHASE.

BUT AGAIN, SORT OF LIKE REPURPOSING THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, BUT JUST ADDING ENHANCEMENTS TO THEM.

WE'RE DOING THIS ACTUALLY IN GLENDALE. THESE CIRCULAR BENCHES THAT ARE REALLY OLD AND TIRED, AND WE COMMISSIONED AN ARTIST TO ACTUALLY DO A WHOLE TILE INSTALLATION, ALL OF THEM THAT ARE GOING TO BE BRIGHT AND VIBRANT.

THE MANTRA SHOPPING CENTER, WHERE THESE ARE LOCATED ARE LIKE THE THEIR NRBBA IS LIKE ELATED BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING THINGS THAT ARE BECOMING AN EYESORE AND TURNING THEM INTO SORT

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OF LIKE MOMENTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GATHER.

AND THAT'S THE INTENT WITH SORT OF LIKE THE BENCHES. THESE ARE ALL THE SORT OF THE FUNCTIONAL.

YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY THAT ARE ON THE MAP HERE.

THERE ARE 11 BUS STOPS. THERE ARE FOUR BIKE RACKS.

THERE ARE 15 CONCRETE SETS OF CONCRETE BENCHES.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ALL OF THEM IN PHASE ONE.

BUT IT'S SORT OF SELECTING THE KEY MOMENTS. I THINK I THINK I'LL SHOW YOU THE INITIAL PLAN.

I THINK IT'S EIGHT CONCRETE BENCHES. AND THEN A COUPLE OF BUS STOPS.

SO THESE ARE THE CONCRETE BENCHES, RIGHT? THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL AS IS RIGHT NOW, BUT ARE VERY SORT OF LIKE ANONYMOUS.

SO THE IDEA IS WE COULD USE THE EXISTING BENCHES, ENHANCE THEM WITH EITHER TILE OR PAINTING.

THEY'RE DEFINITELY DIFFERENT MATERIAL POSSIBILITIES.

AND AGAIN, SAME THING WITH THESE SORT OF LIKE BUS BENCHES.

THESE ARE LIKE NECESSITIES. BUT HOW DO WE USE THESE? SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY IT'S NOT JUST AN ANONYMOUS PIECE OF METAL ON THE SIDE.

HOW DO WE CREATE SET THESE UP SO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND USE THEM.

AGAIN, USING PUBLIC ART DOLLARS TO SORT OF COMMISSION ARTISTS TO ENHANCE THESE ELEMENTS.

AND THE SAME, THESE SORT OF SAD LITTLE BIKE RACKS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THESE AND MAYBE THESE ARE PLACED WE JUST DID A SERIES OF THESE REALLY AMAZING ARTIST DESIGN BENCHES FOR L.A.

COUNTY. WE DELIVERED 39 BENCHES TO 11 COUNTY PARKS.

BUT AGAIN, SEEING WHAT ARTISTS CAN DESIGN. BY AN ARTIST. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WAS BY A PARTICULAR ARTIST? YES. WE COMMISSIONED AN ARTIST DUO TO ACTUALLY DESIGN AND FABRICATE 39 BENCHES.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY COOL. THEY'RE THESE SCULPTURAL. I THINK THERE'S A PICTURE IN THE DECK. THEY LOOK LIKE THE LA.

LIKE THE CURSE OF LA. AND THERE ARE TWO SETS, SO IT'S LIKE THEY STAND NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY FUNCTIONAL. THE MOMENT WE WERE INSTALLING THESE IN THE FIRST PARK, THERE WERE STILL GUYS, CONTRACTORS LIKE DRILLING THESE THINGS IN THE GROUND, AND KIDS WERE ALREADY TRYING TO JUMP ON THEM AND CLIMB ON THEM. BUT AGAIN, FUNCTIONAL BUT REALLY FUN. REALLY MEMORABLE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA NECESSARILY GET AN LA BENCH, BUT COMMISSIONING ARTISTS TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH EITHER FOR BENCHES OR THESE BIKE RACKS, WHERE WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE ENGAGING FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN THIS TINY LITTLE BIKE RACK.

THEN THE DISCOVERY ART EXAMPLES OF LIKE CROSSWALKS WE WERE LOOKING AT, ACTUALLY THE LIGHT POSTS WHERE WE'VE HAD ARTISTS DO SORT OF LIKE MOUNTED SCULPTURES TO THE SMALLER PIECES, TO THE LIGHT POSTS. THE ELECTRIC BOXES, WRAPS.

WE WERE SORT OF LOOKING AT BUT WHERE I THINK WE LANDED IN TERMS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, I THINK WE CAN KEEP GOING.

IS SOME CROSSWALKS. AND AGAIN, THAT STRATEGY GOES BACK TO WHAT WE KEPT HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS LIKE WE NEED TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN, LIKE IT'S WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE CARS ARE GOING BY SO FAST.

AND THESE AREN'T THE 100% ANSWER. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE COLORFUL CROSSWALKS, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD.

AND WE USE IT'S BEEN STUDIED AND SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT IT DOES SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN.

AND AGAIN, A COUPLE OF THE CROSSWALK LOCATIONS, WE REALLY LIKE THE SORT OF GREEN BELT BIKE PATH.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR SORT OF NUMBER ONE LOCATION.

AGAIN, SUPER FAST TRAFFIC THERE. AND IT'S, IT'S MOST, IT'S SORT OF THE MOST AMOUNT OF LIKE THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. SO IT ENHANCES AN AREA THAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ACTIVELY USING.

AGAIN, SORT OF CROSSWALK MAP. AND SO THIS IS HOW THE BUDGET WOULD SORT OF BREAK DOWN IN THIS FIRST PHASE.

WE WOULD LOOK AT TWO SORT OF LANDMARK MEDIAN INSTALLATIONS, ONE MOST LIKELY ON SORT OF THE EAST END OF ARTESIA, ONE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE WELCOME SIGN ALMOST ACTING AS THE WEST LANDMARK.

SO YOU END UP WITH GATEWAYS ON EITHER END OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE FIVE CONCRETE BENCHES AND TWO CROSSWALKS.

AND THAT'S SORT OF THE PHASE ONE BUDGET. AND WE FELT LIKE AS A OVERALL STRATEGY, WE'RE GETTING SOME LANDMARKS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN FEEL SORT OF A LOT OF CIVIC PRIDE ABOUT AGAIN, CREATING GATEWAYS INTO THIS QUARTER.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A FREEWAY FOR PEOPLE. SEVERAL CONCRETE BENCHES.

I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF PARTICULAR LOCATIONS, BUT AGAIN, THAT CAN BE DETERMINED WITH CITY STAFF AND SORT OF THE SELECTION PANEL.

AND THEN TWO MAJOR CROSSWALKS. SO THAT AGAIN, IT'S WE'RE RESPONDING DIRECTLY WITH THE COMMUNITIES ASKING FOR, THE CITY OWNS ALL OF THESE LOCATIONS. SO WE, WE KNOW WE CAN ACTUALLY ACTIVATE ALL OF THESE.

WE WOULD REMAIN KEEP ABOUT A 10% CONTINGENCY TO COVER ANY ADDITIONAL OVERAGES.

BUT THAT WOULD SORT OF WRAP UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEARLY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WE HAVE FOR THIS FIRST PHASE.

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AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOUR MAP WOULD SORT OF LOOK LIKE. WELCOME SIGN.

TWO MEDIANS SORT OF TWO SORT OF SIGNIFICANT CROSSWALKS AND THEN A SERIES OF BENCHES.

YEAH. LOOKING QUICKLY INTO PHASE TWO. CAN I PAUSE YOU? YEAH, PLEASE. AND JUST GO BACK TO PHASE ONE FOR A SECOND.

SO I LOVE WHERE THE PLAN IS GOING. I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT THAT I KEEP THINKING OF AS I LOOK AT THIS IS I THINK WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE REALLY WANTING THE INTERACTIVE ART TO REALLY GET OUT THERE AND ENGAGE.

I THINK THE BENCHES ARE GREAT, THE BUS SHELTERS ARE GREAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T FEEL QUITE AS INTERACTIVE TO ME AS WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING AND HOPING FOR WHEN IT INVITES THEM TO GO WALK. RIGHT. IS THERE A CHANCE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ADDING MORE OF THAT INTERACTIVE ART? THE CROSSWALKS, I THINK, ARE GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE LOOKING AND TALKING AND WANTING TO GO SEE IT. YOU HAD A FEW PICTURES IN THERE WITH THE INTERACTIVE ART WHERE IT JUST EVEN THAT ONE LOOKED LIKE A POLE AND IT HAD SOME THINGS ON IT. EVEN THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAYBE AREN'T GRAND PIECES OF ART, BUT SMALLER AT SOME OF THOSE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND WALK AROUND TO MORE DISCOVERY MOMENTS, LIKE, CAN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ADDING THAT IN THERE? I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE SORT OF MAYBE PULLED THAT OUT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE IMAGES IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE THINKING ABOUT. I THINK WE HAD THE IN THE PLAN.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIGHT POSTS. I THINK THE REASON WE MAYBE PULLED THAT OUT, BECAUSE MAYBE WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO ALLOCATE MORE TO SORT OF LIKE GRANDER THINGS.

BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. MAYBE WE PULL OUT ONE OF THE MEDIANS AND ALLOCATE THAT TOWARDS SOME SORT OF MORE DISCOVERY EXPERIENTIAL PIECES.

AND MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY'RE ATTACHED TO THE LIGHT POSTS SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION IS MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING, I KNOW THIS IS A LONG TERM PLAN, AND I FEEL LIKE IN PHASE ONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AS INTERACTIVE AS POSSIBLE, THAT WHEN WE GO TO PHASE TWO, IT JUST REALLY ELABORATES ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED. BUT I JUST IMAGINE IN PHASE ONE THAT WE GET THOSE FAMILIES AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AS THAT ONE PERSON SAID, WITHIN THREE BLOCKS OF ARTESIA, BUT WE GET THEM OUT AND EXCITED TO SEE THINGS AND WALK AROUND SOME OF THESE BIG THINGS MIGHT NOT BE NOTICED RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE JUST DRIVING DOWN.

BUT IF YOU TALK ABOUT, HEY, DID YOU SEE THAT REALLY COOL THING ON THE CORNER OF ORANGE AND ARTESIA? YOU HAVE TO GO CHECK IT OUT. PEOPLE WILL GET THE SMALL LITTLE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE LIKE KIDS CAN PLAY WITH AND TOUCH AND SEE.

AND YEAH, MAYBE THEY ARE SORT OF LIKE LIGHTPOST ACTIVATED BECAUSE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THERE AREN'T A LOT OF GROUND PLANE.

WE REALLY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT BIKE PATH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO.

HOW FAR IN CAN WE GO IN THE BIKE PATH? NOT AT ALL.

JUST THE SIDEWALK. IS THAT HOW THAT ONE GOES, I GUESS.

JACK, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE CITY'S IT BELONGS TO.

IT'S JUST UP TO THE CURB. SO JUST THE STREET.

OKAY, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THERE WITH, LIKE, THE BENCH AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT THAT COULD BE LIKE A DRAW, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BIKE PATH THERE AND ALSO THERE'S A STREET THERE THAT'S A JUNCTION OF LIKE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELING THROUGH THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU TAKE YOUR FAMILY ALONG THE BIKE PATH AND YOU CAN STOP THERE.

AND THEN WE WANT TO PULL THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY FROM THE BIKE PATH INTO THE LET'S GO GET SOMETHING TO EAT.

LET'S GO SHOPPING A LITTLE BIT. LET'S DO THAT IN THIS AREA.

RIGHT. SO IT COULD THAT COULD BE A GOOD PLANTING POINT FOR THE REST OF EVERYTHING ELSE TO BECOME MORE ELABORATE.

YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIKE PATH WE DO HAVE, THERE IS WE HAVE A MEDIAN THERE AND CONCRETE BENCHES THERE AND A CROSSWALK.

SO THAT IS DEFINITELY LIKE A FOCAL POINT FOR US.

YEAH. BUT YEAH, WE CAN I THINK WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO EXPLORE THE IDEA OF MAYBE PULLING SOMETHING OUT.

I MEAN, IF WE PULLED OUT THE MEDIAN, WHICH IS A LARGE NUMBER, WE COULD PROBABLY ACTIVATE MORE BENCHES AND THEN HAVE A SERIES OF SMALLER DISCOVERY INSTALLATIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO MODIFY IT JUST IS.

THAT'S THE IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE IN A SAFE AREA WHERE THERE'S ROOM AND NOT IN A SMALL SPACE.

SO WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE SMALL SPACES AND ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC.

YEAH. IF WE CAN GO, KELLY, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DISCOVERY MOMENTS PAGE.

THIS ONE. THE BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LITTLE SCULPTURAL PIECES OFF THE LIGHT POSTS. THE ONE ABOVE THAT IS SORT OF LIKE VIEWFINDERS.

AND THE ARTIST THAT ACTUALLY DID THOSE VIEWFINDERS, DID THESE REALLY COOL SORT OF CUTOUTS THAT ATTACH TO POSTS, TO THAT SORT OF PERSPECTIVE WHERE IT LOOKS WHEN YOU STAND BACK, IT SORT OF MAKES THE SHAPE OF WHATEVER BUILDING OR IS BEHIND IT.

WE DID THOSE IN SANTA MONICA ON THE THIRD STREET PROMENADE.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE FUN THINGS WE CAN DO.

SO, YEAH, MAYBE WE PULL A MEETING OUT, ADD SOME BENCHES, AND THEN ADD SOME ELEMENTS LIKE THAT AND COMMISSION ARTISTS TO DO A SERIES OF THOSE.

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OR LIKE VIEWFINDERS, MAYBE IT'S JUST A SINGLE VIEWFINDER ON DIFFERENT POSTS. BECAUSE THEN AGAIN, WE'RE NOT INTERFERING WITH GROUND PLANE, BUT THEN WE ARE CREATING THESE SORT OF FUN LITTLE MOMENTS FOR ADULTS, FAMILIES, KIDS IS SORT OF LIKE, COULD YOU IMAGINE IF WE HAD THAT ALL DOWN, ARTESIA, AND HOW THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS WOULD LOVE TO JUST HOP FROM ONE TO THE NEXT, AND THEN EVERY BUSINESS COULD CAPITALIZE ON THAT, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT OTHER KIDS CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN FIND IN THE VIEWFINDER TODAY. THERE'S OUR DISCOVERY MOMENT.

SO YEAH, WELL, IF THE COMMISSION IS MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN OUR SORT OF LONG TERM PLAN. SO I WONDER, LIKE IN THE SAME SORT OF WAY IF THERE'S COHESION ACROSS THESE IN SOME SORT OF WAY, LIKE IS THERE SOMETHING HOW DO YOU LIKE, HOW DO YOU I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE MAYBE THIS GOES INTO PHASE TWO A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW ARE YOU DECIDING THAT THEY'RE LINKED OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT LIKE THIS DISCOVERY AND THIS MEDIAN AND THIS AND IT'S JUST KIND OF ALL FUN, OR IS IT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THERE'S A COHESION BETWEEN ALL OF THEM IN SOME SORT OF LINKED WAY.

INTERESTING. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IN THE COMMUNITY SORT OF QUESTIONS WE ASKED SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING CONNECTED? DO YOU WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING THEMED TO LIKE THE NAUTICAL SORT OF THEME? AND OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPLE WERE LIKE, NO, WE JUST WANT TO SEE COOL STUFF.

THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE LIKE, OH, WE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING CONNECTED. BUT LIKE THE LARGER RESPONSE WAS LIKE, NO, WE JUST WANT TO BASICALLY IT WAS JUST I'M PARAPHRASING. WE WANT TO SEE COOL THINGS. WHEN WE GET INTO OUR SELECTION, THE FIRST THING WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE PUT OUT AN RFQ REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO BUILD A POOL, AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THESE LOCATIONS. ONCE WE NARROW THAT LIST DOWN, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER AN RFP FOR ARTISTS TO DESIGN SITE SPECIFIC.

RIGHT. SO IT'S IN THE PLAN, ALL THE CRITERIA.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING AGAIN FROM CONSERVATION AND MAINTENANCE AND MATERIALITY TO, YOU KNOW, OUR ARTISTS CAPABILITIES, PAST WORK EXPERIENCE, SO WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED CRITERIA WE'RE GOING TO USE TO NARROW THAT LIST DOWN.

AND AGAIN, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE WOULD HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS ON THE SELECTION PANEL, TWO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THEN A FIFTH PERSON. CITY STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AND THEN OUR TEAM, WE'RE NOT ON THAT PANEL, BUT WE'RE THERE SORT OF GUIDING, YOU KNOW, GIVING ADVICE, GIVING FEEDBACK.

BUT THAT RFP FOR THOSE ARTISTS THAT WERE SHORTLISTED, WE'LL GIVE THEM AS MUCH CRITERIA AS POSSIBLE.

BACKGROUND ON THE COMMUNITY, BACKGROUND ON REDONDO BEACH, BACKGROUND ON NORTH REDONDO.

ALL THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AS PART OF THIS PLAN I DON'T THINK WE WOULD EVER SUGGEST AN ARTIST LIKE EACH ARTIST, LIKE, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE BLUE, LIKE YOU NEED A BLUE, BUT IT'S SORT OF UP TO THEM TO SORT OF TAKE THAT DATA, TAKE THOSE THINGS TAKE ALL OF THE GOALS WE'RE GIVING THEM, SEE WHAT THEY CAN CREATIVELY COME UP WITH.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, TWO PEOPLE FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT SELECTION PANEL WILL REVIEW THOSE CONCEPTS AND DO OUR BEST TO SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, LET'S MAKE SURE WE REALLY LOVE THIS ART, BUT DOES IT WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, WILL, IF WE'RE HAVING A MEDIAN SCULPTURE, IS IT GOING TO WORK WITH THE CROSSWALK THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT DOES BECAUSE IT ALSO MATTERS KIND OF WHAT THE ARTISTS BRING TO THE TABLE.

RIGHT, IS THE OTHER PART OF IT TOO. IT'S LIKE WE CAN TALK CONCEPTUALLY AS MUCH AS WE WANT, BUT WHATEVER THE ARTIST BRINGS, LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH.

SO EXACTLY. SO AND WE'LL BE WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE CONCEPTS FOR EACH LOCATION THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, OKAY, WE REALLY LIKE THIS ONE. THIS ONE'S GREAT, BUT THAT MAYBE DOESN'T FIT HERE.

SO THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE ARTISTS. ACTUALLY THAT'S KIND OF PART OF MY QUESTION. A LITTLE BIT LIKE IS LIKE IN THE COHESION OF IT IS WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER, PUT OUT AN RFQ, WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED RESPONSES FOR EACH LOCATION.

WE WILL HELP NARROW THAT DOWN. BUT, YEAH, WE WE PUT OUT A CALL MULTIPLE.

I THINK, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT LOCAL ARTISTS, NATIONAL ARTISTS. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE CALL UP. WE DON'T RELY JUST ON THE RFQ.

WE WILL ALSO MAKE CALLS AND EMAILS TO ARTISTS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE APPLYING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING A LARGE VOLUME OF QUALITY ARTISTS APPLYING.

SO WE SEED THE RFQ WITH PEOPLE THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE APPLYING TO THESE BASED ON THEIR WORK OR THEIR PAST EXPERIENCES WITH THEM, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE OPENING IT UP AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE.

SO YEAH. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED ARTISTS.

SO WHOEVER'S ON THIS PANEL JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF LEGWORK INVOLVED.

A LOT TO REVIEW. AND THEN YES, WE'LL WE'LL IDEALLY FOR EACH LOCATION, WE'LL HAVE 3 OR 4 THAT WE SHORTLIST AND GET CONCEPTS FROM.

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OKAY. GREAT. SORRY. MOUTHFUL. THAT'S GREAT. NO IT'S GOOD.

YEAH, THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION. JUST AS WE HEAR ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS.

THANK YOU. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE LOCATIONS METHODOLOGY.

WE IT WAS OUR TEAM THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP. IF YOU WANT TO PULL UP THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH LIBRARY SCULPTURE AND THE ELECTRICAL BOXES, WE ACTUALLY WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT THIS, THIS, THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT.

AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. IF WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE WHOLE PLAN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO INCLUDE THIS.

FUNDING IS OBVIOUSLY ONE ISSUE, BUT ALSO FOR THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS AND COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S CONNECTED, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING ON ANY OF THE ART LOCATIONS ACROSS OUR PROJECT IN SILOS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE MEDIAN, THE CROSSWALK IS RIGHT THERE TOO.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONSIDERATION OF LIKE MAKING SURE THOSE WORK TOGETHER.

AND I THINK FOR US, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE LGBTQ NORTH REDONDO BEACH LIBRARY.

IS THAT LIKE WE SHOULD FOR US, WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD ROLL THAT INTO THE PURVIEW SO THAT WHATEVER'S HAPPENING HERE IS ALSO BEING PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEN EVEN LIKE THE ELECTRICAL BOXES ARE LIKE, OKAY, IF WE'RE DOING DISCOVERY MOMENTS AND CROSSWALKS, THE LAST THING WE WOULD WANT. AND IT'S FUNNY, MY TEAM KNOWS THIS, LIKE THE ELECTRICAL BOXES ARE LIKE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME REALLY GOOD ONES. AND I USED TO LIVE MY OLD HOUSE.

THERE WAS ONE ON MY CORNER THAT WAS LIKE ONE OF THE WORST THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN.

AND I WAS JUST LIKE, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M A LITTLE JADED, BUT I WAS LIKE, I LITERALLY CAME SO CLOSE TO MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT GOING INTO PAINTING THIS THING OVER BECAUSE I HAD TO SEE IT EVERY DAY, AND I JUST HATED IT.

SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S LIKE AS MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THIS CORRIDOR, LIKE TO US, LIKE LET US BE PART OF THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE ARTISTS.

WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING AN ARTIST POOL FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO LIKE TO US INCLUDE THESE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN BE HAVE THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS.

EVERYTHING ELSE. SO CAN I JUST INTERRUPT REAL QUICK? I JUST WANT TO MENTION TO YOU A REMINDER FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

THERE WAS A SUGGESTION FOR MONIES IN ADDITION TO GO FOR THAT SCULPTURE WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE DID SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE SEPARATE.

IT SHOULD BE ENGAGED ALONG WITH WITH YOU, WITH THE WITH WITH THAT.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE MONIES THAT ARE NECESSARY, EVEN FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE ESTIMATES WITH THINGS ALONG WITH IT. SO I THINK IT'S I WANT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC TO KNOW ABOUT THAT AND THAT IT'S NOT SEPARATED. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT STILL HAS TO BE IN THE HANDS OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS, HOPEFULLY. MONIES, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED FOR THAT.

AND IT'S ONLY AN ADDITION TO. SO, SO SO SO THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL ALONG WITH YOU DOING IT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKING THAT ON AS WELL. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT AT DOLLAR SIGNS THAT TOTALLY DIMINISH AS YOU KNOW, WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH THE SCULPTURE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ARE GOING TO GO ON AS FAR AS ARTWORK.

SO IT'S ONLY SOMETHING I WANT TO, TO DEFINITELY ADDRESS THAT.

IT'S. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR FROM.

HOPEFULLY FROM, FROM OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH A LETTER THAT GOT ADDRESSED WITH THAT.

CORRECT? IF THE COUNCIL IF THE COUNCIL AGENDIZES IT AND BRINGS UP THE THE THE ISSUE AND CHOOSES TO FUND IT.

YES. YES. OKAY. MORE FUNDING BETTER. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I SAY.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING. OUR PERSPECTIVE IS. YES. YEAH. IF IT WAS FUNDED IN ADDITION TO THE $450,000 WE'RE SPENDING, THAT'S GREAT. YEAH, I THINK FOR US, EITHER WAY, WE WOULD HATE TO PUT ALL THIS ENERGY INTO PLANNING OUT THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR.

AND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY LOGICAL THAT EVEN IF WITH THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, WITH SUCH AN INVESTMENT THAT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, HAS IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH SUGGESTIONS AND YOU KNOW, WITH OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COMMISSION AND, AND THE CONSULTANT, THAT'S IT'S ONLY OBVIOUS THAT IT WOULD BE INTERACTED TOGETHER TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, COME TO FULL FRUITION, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLARIFIED THAT AND OTHER THINGS.

WE'RE LIKE, OKAY. YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE LEGWORK.

WE SPOKE TO THE COMMUNITY, LOOKED TO US, JUST KIND OF LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO FOLD THOSE IN,

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WHETHER THEY'RE ADDITIONAL BUDGET OR WHATEVER THAT HAPPENS THERE DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S LIKE IT'S OUT THERE SO EVERYBODY KNOWS BECAUSE WE ALL AGREED ON IT THE LAST MEETING.

SO. SO CAN I JUST CLARIFY. SO IF WE ARE TO GET THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET FOR AN LGBTQ SCULPTURE TO GO IN FRONT OF THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY, ARE WE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT'S ALLOCATED TOWARDS THIS, CAN WE WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH THOSE DOLLARS AND TO MAKE IT A COHESIVE NO PLAN RECOMMENDING TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR NOT OUT OF THE ALLOCATED FUNDS WE CURRENTLY CAN.

OKAY. SORRY. NO THAT'S OKAY. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH BEAU AND HIS TEAM IF IT'S NOT PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO HELP FACILITATE IT.

WE WOULD. WE WOULD DO AN AMENDMENT AND HAVE HIS TEAM SUPPORT IT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS BEYOND WHAT'S ALLOCATED IN THE PLAN.

DOES THAT THAT DOES THAT MAKES ME. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THAT AN EASIER WAY TO MAYBE GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GO THROUGH? IF WE CAN RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE RELEASE, SAY, $75,000 THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FUND NOW TO BE AN ADDITION OR AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM TO DEVELOP THE LGBTQ. I THINK THAT, I THINK THE EASIEST ROUTE IS TO INCLUDE IT IN THE PLAN.

OKAY. DOING THE WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS STILL NOT DIFFICULT.

IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL STEPS IN THE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

OKAY. I'M SORRY, CAN I ASK JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INCLUDE IT IN THE PLAN? WHAT PLAN? SO IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY THE TWO OPTIONS.

THERE'S MANY, BUT THE TWO THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS WHETHER THE LGBTQ STATUE IS INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN, WHICH WOULD REPLACE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDED. IT COULD REPLACE A MEDIAN.

IT COULD REPLACE, YOU KNOW, A FEW BENCHES, WHATEVER THAT IS, BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.

WHEREAS YOU CAN KEEP THE PLAN AS PROPOSED OR WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS, AS YOU DISCUSSED.

AND THE LGBTQ STATUE WOULD BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECT, NOT TIED OR FUNDED BY.

COULD WE.

BUT COULD WE INCLUDE THE LGBTQ SCULPTURE AS PART OF THE OVERALL STRATEGY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PUT IT INTO PHASE ONE BUDGET TO BE FUNDED? TBD. AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WHATEVER CONSIDERATION HAPPENS WITH THAT, IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN, WHETHER IT'S FUNDED AS PART OF THE PLAN OR TBD.

WELL, THAT LENGTHEN IT FOR PHASE TWO. I DON'T WANT IT TO LIKE EXTENDED.

OUR WHOLE WORK AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TO GET THIS GOING.

AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN AN EXTENSIVE LONG SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH AS EVEN OUR THE THE MOST RECENT VERBIAGE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS TO WE DON'T WANT TO SLIM THAT OUT. AND SO TO WORK HOW FAR WE'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, TO FINALLY GET THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LETTER HOPEFULLY GETS HEARD AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO FROM THERE. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS AN OPTION.

THERE'S JUST NO GUARANTEES WITH THE LETTER, OF COURSE.

SO AND THERE STILL WOULDN'T BE GUARANTEES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST INPUT FOR TONIGHT, BUT AT LEAST THIS IS AN EASIER AVENUE.

BUT TO BEAU'S POINT, YES, WE COULD INCLUDE IT AS AN ADDITIONAL INSTALLATION PIECE.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO, THOUGH, IS STILL FIND THE FUNDING AND THEN DO AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TEAM CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. SO AGAIN, NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

IT'S JUST SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS IN THE PROCESS.

OKAY, I HAVE AN IDEA. SO WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY TALKING IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF DOING A CROSSWALK.

UNIMAGINATIVE RAINBOW IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT HOW HARD CROSSWALKS COULD BE TO HAVE DONE AS FAR AS SHUTTING DOWN ARTESIA LANE, IF THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN YOUR PLAN, COULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT HAPPENING THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR LGBTQ REPRESENTATION AT THE LIBRARY? WE WERE HOPING FOR WITHIN PHASE ONE, SINCE THAT THAT CROSSWALK IS PART OF PHASE ONE PLAN ANYWAY.

AND THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE AT PHASE TWO AN LGBTQ STATUE GO THERE AS WELL? YEAH. I MEAN. ARE THOSE THINGS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A PLAN IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT WE'RE OKAY PUTTING ALL THIS IN THERE, THAT WAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING WE NEED. YOUR PLEASURE. SO. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T ALREADY AN IDEA OF. BUT THAT'S A FEASIBLE PLAN SO THAT WE WERE NOT WAITING FOR FUNDING.

WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR IT TO HOPEFULLY GET ON.

YEAH. SO AGENDA TO GET VOTED ON OKAY. TO THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT ONE OF THE CROSSWALKS BE DESIGNATED AS AN LGBTQ SORT OF MONUMENT OR IT'S ALSO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S LIKE MORE TO BE HEARD FROM YOU GUYS IN THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'VE MADE.

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AND I DID MISS LAST MEETING, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I MISSED.

LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT SECTION. YEAH.

AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT. BUT THEN ALSO LIKE WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF HE'S ABLE TO, LIKE, ABSORB THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND IF HE'S ABLE TO TAKE THAT AND ACTUALLY, LIKE, IMPLEMENT IT IN A WAY THAT COULD BE LIKE THAT'S LIKE ORGANIZED AND NOT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT EXACTLY, BUT LIKE, IF HE CAN ABSORB THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND JUST CONTINUE ALONG WITH IT AND HAVE IT BE DONE IN A MORE COHESIVE WAY, CONSIDERING HE'S DOING THAT, AND IF WE COULD GIVE LIKE INSTEAD OF LIKE TAKING FROM WHAT HE HAS.

RIGHT. JUST WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE THE BUBBLE. IT'S LIKE, DO WE DO A HAND OFF TO HIM AND SAY LIKE, TAKE THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE CREATED SO FAR.

COULD YOU NOW, LIKE, NURTURE THIS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LIKE, I THINK LIKE I FEEL LIKE HE'S SORT OF SAYING THAT, BUT ALSO LIKE, WE CAN LEAVE HIS IDEA. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR.

RIGHT. BECAUSE AND YET THE END RESULT WILL STILL BE THAT PIECE, BUT ALSO LIKE, IS IT SOMETHING BETTER THAT WE KEEP IT AS IT IS AND WORK ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S A LIKE A MORE FULFILLING WAY OF, YOU KNOW, ACCOMPLISHING IT. AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT, IT'S GOING TO BE MONEY IS GOING TO BE A BIG PLAYER IN THIS WITH WHAT THEY GOT ALLOCATED.

AND WHAT THE PRESENTATION, WHAT THE MEETING WE HAD LAST TIME OF WHAT THE MONEY WE WERE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD SET ASIDE FROM THE JOHN PARSONS PROJECT FOR THAT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE MONEY FOR A CROSSWALK, YOU KNOW, WITH THERE'S GOING TO BE CROSSWALKS THAT WERE PRESENTED TOO.

AND IT HAS TO BE STRETCHED OUT ALL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU DO THE CROSSWALKS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHAOS A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BLOCKED OFF. THERE'S EXPENDITURES THAT ARE IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE MURALS THAT I THINK THIS IS WHAT SOMETIMES EVEN FOR MYSELF GETS KIND OF SHOVED UNDERNEATH THE CARPET AND WE DON'T REALIZE. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS TO ALL OF THIS.

IT LOOKS GRANDIOSE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM MAYBE THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANTED INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, ARTWORK THAT ARE ALONG THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE SAID, YOU KNOW, AS WE HOPEFULLY PATIENTLY WAIT FOR THIS LETTER THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WILL BE HEARD AND THEN WE, WE HAVE IT'S NOT LIKE I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE SHOULD BE INTERACTION.

IF THAT GETS ADDRESSED AND WE HAVE IT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT GOES OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR YOU KNOW, THAT TO BE SAID TOO. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL EAGERLY WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM.

SO, YEAH, WE'RE NOT READY TO GIVE UP THAT PROJECT OR ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT. I JUST THINK THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S MONEY AND AND LIKE, AGAIN IF WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DESIGNATE FOR THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY SO MUCH WITH THAT IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THAT BE IN ADDITION TO, BUT YOU'RE ALREADY MAXING OUT SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT IT'S IT'S. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AGAIN, MAYBE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN TERMS OF MY ASSUMPTIONS, BUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL PROBABLY LIVE UNDERNEATH THE AACAP PLAN.

THE PHASE TWO, WE'RE NOT CONTRACTED FOR PHASE TWO.

WE'RE CONTRACTED TO FINISH THIS FIRST ONE. THERE'S NO PROMISES IN THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES DOING EVERYTHING.

I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND MAYBE INCLUDING THESE ELEMENTS INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT OUR CONTRACT. IT'S JUST THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THAT AS FOR BUILDING AN ARTIST POOL, AS ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING, THIS CAN BE INCLUDED WHETHER IT'S FUNDED LATER, AND MAYBE THIS IS DELIVERED 18 MONTHS FROM NOW.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S FUNDED SEPARATELY. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST JUST PUTTING IT IN THERE.

SO WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AND WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT IT, THIS IS A PIECE THAT'S A CONSIDERATION OF THE OVERALL PLAN VERSUS

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AND AGAIN, SORT OF THE HAND OFFS, AN INTERESTING WAY TO LOOK AT IT. LIKE WE CAN CERTAINLY YOU CAN KEEP IT OUT AND THEN HAND IT OFF TO US AT SOME POINT WHEN IT GETS FUNDED.

BUT TO ME, I THINK AS MANY THINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC ART RELATED THAT CAN GO INTO WHAT'S REALLY THE MASTER PLAN.

I FEEL A LITTLE BIT I MEAN, I GUESS I'M INDIFFERENT, BUT I'M ALSO FEELING LIKE IF WE HAD THOSE MONIES, WE COULD PUT OUT A CALL TO ARTISTS AND WE COULD GET IT MOVING EVEN MORE FORWARD THAN WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG IT'S STILL A LONG PROCESS FOR FOR WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE ALREADY HAD SO MUCH OF A JUMPSTART THAT WE REALLY DID.

AND I GET THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED WITH THE FUNDS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN WE DID IT.

SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE CRUSHED UP AND PUT INTO A PLAN THAT WE MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS, OR IF IT DOES GO EVEN IN THE FIRST PHASE, THEN WE'RE MISSING OUT ON MONEY THAT WE COULD BE ACTING UPON RIGHT NOW WITH THAT PARTICULAR SCULPTURE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE REST OF IT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON ARTESIA.

SO, SO, SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, IT'S STRETCHING VERY, VERY THIN IN MY OPINION.

AND SO I THINK WE CAN ONLY LOOK AT IT AS A, AS IT BENEFICIAL IF WE CAN GET THAT IN ADDITION TO.

AND THAT'S JUST. NO, NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ADDITION TO.

I'M JUST SAYING IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL STRATEGY.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S COST SAVINGS BECAUSE IF THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN AND WE'RE ALREADY PUTTING OUT AN RFQ FOR THE LOCATIONS, THIS IS ADD TO THAT LOCATION LIST. SO WE'RE NOW BUILDING AN ARTIST POOL FOR THIS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, RATHER THAN YOU HAVING TO DO IT A WHOLE CALL OUT SEPARATELY WHERE IT'S WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.

ONCE WE PICK ARTISTS, I CAN PROMISE YOU WE'RE WE'RE MORE EFFICIENT AT, LIKE, NARROWING THAT LIST DOWN, PICKING ARTISTS, GETTING CONCEPTS DELIVERED BECAUSE AS WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND THEN EVEN SELECTING ARTISTS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT MATERIALS WILL WORK WELL, WHAT CAN BE DELIVERED, WHAT REAL BUDGETS ARE BECAUSE WE SEE ARTISTS DELIVER.

HEY, THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO FOR $5,000. AND WE'RE LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY.

MAYBE I COULD GET SOME CLARIFICATION THEN WITH THIS.

IS THAT POSSIBLE, KELLY? WITH WITH IN ADDITION TO OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE ASKING IF IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. WELL, I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, SLOWING THAT DOWN, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE OF ANYTHING.

THIS. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THIS SLOWING THAT DOWN.

WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, IS MONIES THAT WERE HOPEFULLY SUGGESTED FROM OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DELEGATED FOR THE, THAT PROJECT.

AND WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK. AND BECAUSE THAT WAS SENT OUT TWO MONTHS AGO.

SO I THOUGHT THAT FEBRUARY AND MARCH, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, THE MID THE MID-YEAR BUDGET IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE FOR CITY COUNCIL. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO THAT MEETING AND ASKING FOR THIS MONEY THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR PARSONS BUDGET TO BE REALLOCATED TO THE LGBTQ SCULPTURE.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE LEBASSE TEAM.

SO WOULD THAT HELP FACILITATE COUNCIL? YOUR REQUEST ALREADY WENT IN.

IT WAS DESIGNATED THAT THE CHAIR WOULD WRITE A LETTER WITH THOSE CONTENTS AND TRANSMIT THAT REQUEST.

AND SO THEY'VE RECEIVED THE REQUEST ALREADY. IF THEY BRING IT UP ON AN AGENDA, OF COURSE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN THERE AND SUPPORT IT. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IF WE GO TO THE MID-YEAR BUDGET MEETING.

IT DOESN'T. THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO GO TO THE MID-YEAR BUDGET MEETING.

IT'S, IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA IT'S ABSOLUTELY HELPFUL TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT FOR IT.

YES. AND HOW DO WE FIND OUT WHEN IT GETS ON THE AGENDA? WHEN THEY MAKE THE AGENDA AND PUBLISH IT. SO I'M SORRY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS IS, THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS PROJECT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL'S EYES.

YES. AND TO PROVIDE THE INPUT, THE INPUT THAT YOU PROVIDE TONIGHT COULD BE PLEASE INCLUDE THIS AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITH THE

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ALLOCATION OF THE NECESSARY FUNDS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED.

PERFECT. UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A THIS OR THAT FOR FOR TONIGHT.

IF YOU PREFER THIS TO BE A STANDALONE PROJECT, THAT CAN BE YOUR INPUT.

I, I JUST MY QUESTION IS, IS I JUST WANT THE EXTRA MONEY THEN TO GO TO THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT BECAUSE IT NEEDS MORE MONEY.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T JUST. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, NOT THAT THAT IT.

I WANT THE MONEY. I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY TO GO IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

YOU KNOW, FOR FOR SURE, YOU COULD AMEND YOUR EARLIER REQUEST THAT THE $25,000 ALLOCATED TO THAT THAT YOU ASKED TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE SCULPTURE, THAT WAS THE THING ADDED TO THE TO THE YEAH. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, VERY HELPFUL.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M FOLLOWING, SO I APOLOGIZE.

I'M KIND OF GETTING INTO THIS CONVERSATION A LITTLE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO THE JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND HAS ABOUT $75,000 IN ITS BALANCE CURRENTLY.

AND THE LETTER THAT YOU SUBMITTED REQUESTED 25,000 OF THAT TO BE USED TO FUND THIS PROJECT.

YES. OKAY. SO THEN YOUR INPUT COULD VERY WELL BE STILL ALLOCATE THAT FUNDING TO THIS PROJECT.

YOU'RE NOT CHANGING YOUR RECOMMENDATION. YOU'RE JUST SAYING PLEASE ALLOCATE THE FUNDING, BUT INCLUDE IT AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN SO THAT IT'S PART OF PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DRAFT THAT PHASE ONE, SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING.

THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD LIKE BEAU AND HIS TEAM TO HELP FACILITATE THAT INSTALLATION, WE WOULD NEED TO WORK ON AMENDING THE CONTRACT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALL DOABLE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY SHIFT ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE INPUT TONIGHT.

YES. YES WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT OKAY.

SO AND AND NOW TO GET ON TO THE UTILITY BOXES THAT YOU MENTIONED IN HERE.

ALSO, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY UTILITY BOXES WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO WRAP ON ARTESIA? I WISH KIM WAS HERE BECAUSE SHE COUNTED THEM ALL.

YEAH. WE DID NOT PUT IT IN THE PLAN. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A COUNT AT THE OFFICE.

AND, JACK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. YOU HAVE YOUR CRYSTAL BALL OUT TODAY.

HOW MANY UTILITY BOXES DO WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO WRAP IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS? WE'VE BEEN DOING BETWEEN 5 AND 10 A YEAR. FIVE AND TEN YEAR AVERAGE.

BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ARTESIA. WE COULD POSSIBLY SAY THAT MAYBE 1 OR 2 MIGHT COME UP IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR ARTESIA.

AND IF WE DID, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST SAY? IF WE HAPPEN TO PICK THAT LOCATION, THAT WE COULD COME AND ASK THEM THEIR OPINION ON THOSE, IF THAT WOULD BE COHESIVE, HOW WOULD THAT GO ABOUT? I WOULD SAY AS WE BUILD THAT RFQ AND ARTIST POOL, YEAH, WE HAVE ELECTRIC BOXES.

SO WE USE THIS PLATFORM CALLED SUBMITTABLE WHERE WE CAN HAVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES, ALL THE DETAILS.

ARTISTS CAN LITERALLY CHECK WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING TO, AND THEN WE CAN FILTER AND SORT OF SAY, OKAY, ALL THE ARTISTS APPLY THE ELECTRIC BOXES, SAY 75, RIGHT? WE CAN NARROW THAT LIST DOWN TO 25 THAT WE FEEL ARE ACTUALLY QUALIFIED OR CAPABLE OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. NOW WE HAVE A POOL. SO WHEN FIVE ELECTRIC BOXES COME UP, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A POOL.

AND THEN, THEN IT'S ABOUT LIKE, OKAY, LET'S PICK FIVE TO EACH GIVE US CONCEPTS, AND THEN YOU'LL, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SIGN OFF ON THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE PRESENTED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING THEM WRAPPED OR I MEAN, YOU USUALLY JUST VINYL VINYL WRAPPED. THE ONLY CAVEAT ON THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COMPARE THEIR LIST AGAINST OUR LIST OF AVAILABLE BOXES BASED ON WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO WRAP. THINGS THAT BELONG TO EDISON. WE CANNOT WRAP THINGS THAT BELONG TO THE COUNTY.

WE CANNOT. IT CAN JUST BE LIKE WE BUILD A POOL FOR IT.

AND THEN AFTER CITY PICKS THE FIVE TO WRAP, WE JUST PICK IT FROM THE EXISTING POOL.

OKAY, SO THERE MAY BE FEWER BOXES THAN COUNTED, BUT SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE.

LIKE INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT, I FORGET I'M SORRY THE NUMBER.

IT'S LIKE WHAT WE DID TEN. SO LET'S JUST SAY WE DO TEN.

AND WE COULD SAY INSTEAD OF DOING JUST LIKE TWO, WE SAY ALL TEN OF THEM WILL DO THEM ALL ON OUR ARTESIA AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE'RE NOT SPREADING IT OUT ACROSS LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, LIKE, MAKE THAT SUCH AN ART HUB, RIGHT? THAT LIKE IF THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THAT, WE COULD FOCUS ON THE UTILITY BOXES, BUT WE COULD DO IT ALL IN THAT SECTION, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF IT'S NOT SPREADING IT OUT.

BUT IF WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LIKE MAKE A STATEMENT, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER AS WELL.

AND THEN IF YOU COULD HELP US WITH GETTING THE POOL OF ARTISTS RIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO LIKE BACKTRACK TO IS, COULDN'T YOU WORK WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEE IN THE LGBTQ PROJECT AS WELL?

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SO THAT WAY, BECAUSE THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO COULDN'T YOU JUST ALSO WORK WITH THEM? THEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THE GUIDANCE OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE SO FAR.

AND MAYBE YOU CAN PROVIDE, LIKE THE RFQS FOR THE ARTISTS.

AND THEN THERE COULD BE A HAND IN HAND KIND OF THING IN THAT WAY AS WELL.

I MEAN, TYPICALLY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT OF ME AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO CERTAINLY WORKING WITH SUBCOMMITTEES HAND IN HAND WITH THE WHOLE THE WHOLE PLAN.

IT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? YEAH, A GOOD THING. YEAH.

NO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE DONE A BUNCH OF LEGWORK ALREADY. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF ROLLING THOSE THINGS IN.

IF WE COULD JUST HAVE IT. HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND DO THIS, BUT NOTED THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE BUDGET FOR THE LGBTQ SCULPTURE SET ASIDE TO GO TOWARDS THIS, AND THEN ALSO OUR BUDGET FOR WHEN WE DO THE UTILITY WRAP TO MAYBE ONE PLAN FIVE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO THAT TIME GO TOWARDS ARTESIA SPECIFICALLY.

THAT WAY OUR FUNDS GO TOWARDS THOSE AND IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ALLOCATED.

IS THAT HOW WE CAN GET THAT WRITTEN? THE LAST ONE IS GIVING ME A LITTLE PAUSE, ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE THE THE UTILITY BOXES, I DON'T REMEMBER. I SHOULD KNOW THIS.

ARE THEY IDENTIFIED AS ART INSTALLATIONS IN THE PLAN? NOT RECOMMENDED. YEAH, I BELIEVE WE PULLED THOSE OUT.

SO THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. SO THAT COULD JUST BE DIRECTION AND AND INPUT THAT WE GIVE OKAY.

AS WE MOVE THAT FORWARD. MAYBE THAT'S JUST LIKE WE HELP PROVIDE A POOL OKAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE GET INTO TOO MUCH DISCUSSION, CAN WE SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? LOOK AT ME. ABSOLUTELY I CAN'T OH, I KEEP LOOKING AT YOU, TOO.

IT'S BOTH OF US. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY IT. GEORGETTE GANTNER.

FOR EVERYTHING YOU ASK. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT FOR EVERYTHING ADDITIONAL YOU ASK LABASSE TO DO, IS THAT NOT GOING TO INCREASE OR COME OUT OF THE BUDGET? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR OR GUIDE THIS, DO THIS, WHATEVER.

KA CHING. I MEAN, UNDERSTANDABLY, IT'S HIS TIME.

IT'S HIS EFFORT, IT'S HIS EXPERTISE. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO LOWER YOUR BUDGET.

SO I WOULD SAY ELECTRICAL BOXES KEEP IT SEPARATE.

AND EVEN THE LGBTQ, YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED ON THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR BUDGET, KEEP THAT BUDGET SEPARATE SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THIS FUND.

AND THEN MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH LEGWORK, MAYBE THE LABASSE'S ADDITIONAL INPUT WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH MORE.

AND MAYBE IF IT EXPEDITES IT AND GETS IT DONE, HOORAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND ON. SO I FEEL YOUR PAIN ON THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL THAT'S RELEVANT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE NO ECOMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE CAN MAKE IT UP. ARE WE? SHOULD WE GO FORWARD? ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IS THAT IT? ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.

THANK YOU. NO. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A FUN, INTERESTING PROCESS FOR US.

AND I WILL SAY YOUR COMMUNITY IS THE MOST ENGAGED COMMUNITY WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.

SO THAT'S NICE TO HEAR. YEAH, IT'S SO NICE. I LOVE THAT.

OKAY. SO NEXT WE HAVE PROVIDE INPUT. I THINK WE HAVE PROVIDED OUR INPUT, BUT WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO FORMALLY? WELL, I WOULD PREFER IF WE CAN MAKE SURE TO CAPTURE THE INPUT, TO INCLUDE IT IN A MOTION.

I DO HAVE NOTES. THERE WAS THREE MAIN ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN REPEAT THOSE.

AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO JUST SO MOVE THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST WAY UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO AND AGAIN, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE INPUT WOULD BE TO INCLUDE OR CONSIDER THE INCLUSION OF MORE DISCOVERY OR INTERACTIVE PIECES, SUCH AS THE VIEWFINDER CONCEPT THROUGHOUT. AND THIS WOULD BE THROUGH PHASE ONE, INCORPORATE THE LGBTQ SCULPTURE AS PART OF THE PLAN WITH THE ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF 25,000 SO THAT IT DOESN'T PULL FROM THE EXISTING BUDGET AND HAVE LBP HELP FACILITATE THAT.

AND THEN AND ACTUALLY, THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY TWO, BECAUSE THE UTILITY BOXES WE ARE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE TWO PIECES OF INPUT. SO UNLESS I MISSED ANYTHING IF YOU WANT THAT CAN BE YOUR MOTION.

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OKAY. SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO FILE THE.

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? OR CAN I SAY THE TWO POINTS? THE TWO POINTS. I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. WE WILL ADD THOSE INPUTS.

REVISE THE DRAFT AND YEAH WE'LL CONNECT AFTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THEY DID IT. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT I HAD HEARD THAT THE RECEIVING FILE. YES. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. THAT MOVES US TO J.3.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CANCELLATION OF THE DECEMBER 24TH, 2025 CULTURAL ARTS MEETING.

JACK, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT ON THIS ONE.

YEAH. THE THE NEXT MEETING, SINCE WE ARE NOW GOING TO A MONTHLY SCHEDULE AND YOUR CHOICE OF FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE OF THE MONTH WOULD LAND IT SQUARELY ON CHRISTMAS EVE.

SO I MIGHT SUGGEST YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT CANCELING THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.

WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO TRY AND SCHEDULE A A SECOND SPECIAL MEETING AGAIN THERE'S LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT OF, OF AVAILABLE DATES FOR THIS CHAMBER AND QUESTIONS WHETHER YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT AGENDA TO MERIT IT. YOU'RE KIND OF BETWEEN BETWIXT AND BETWEEN CERTAIN PROJECTS AT THE MOMENT.

THIS DRAFT PLAN HAS TO GO TO THE COUNCIL NEXT AND SEE WHAT COMES OF THAT AND SEE IF THEY SEND IT BACK FOR ANY REVIEWS.

WE ALSO HAVE WAITING FOR THE COUNCIL TO ACT ON YOUR YOUR EARLIER RECOMMENDATIONS.

UNLESS YOU JUST WANT SPECIFIC REPORTS FROM YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES.

DO YOU DO YOU SEE ENOUGH WORK? THAT IS THAT'S WORTH A TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN A MEETING IN DECEMBER WHICH YOU'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE? OR DO YOU WANT TO START YOUR MONTHLIES IN JANUARY? WELL, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD GO WITH EVERYBODY IN WHAT THEY FEEL.

DO YOU WANT TO GO RIGHT TO LEFT OR. YEAH. SO I ACTUALLY WILL NOT BE IN TOWN FOR THE 24TH.

SO I WOULD NOT BE HERE. SO YOU PREFER IN JANUARY TO DO IT? YEAH. I DON'T MIND RESCHEDULING, BUT I PREFER IN JANUARY.

DEFINITELY LIKE REGULAR REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS.

I, I ALSO FEEL THE SAME WAY. I SHOULD POINT OUT, THERE'S ONLY TWO REASONS NOW THAT THEY WILL ACCEPT FOR CANCELING MEETINGS.

ONE IS THE LIKELY LACK OF A QUORUM OR INSUFFICIENT WORK FOR THE AGENDA.

YES. OKAY. I WOULD VOTE TO CANCEL THE MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET A QUORUM ON CHRISTMAS EVE.

MY CONCERN, THOUGH, IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE GOING ON IN DECEMBER, AND WE'RE GOING TO WAIT EIGHT WEEKS TO MEET AGAIN.

WE HAVE TO KEEP THE JANUARY MEETING, THOUGH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH. THAT'S IS THAT RIGHT? OR CAN WE ADD ANOTHER MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH? NOT EVEN NECESSARILY. I MEAN, IT'D BE NICE JUST TO KIND OF PUSH THE JANUARY 1ST UP A LITTLE SOONER, BUT I GUESS THAT'S JUST NOT THE OPTION TO CHANGE YOUR SCHEDULE TO RATHER THAN THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY IN THE MONTH TO.

I ALREADY CHECKED THE FIRST AND THE THIRD ARE AVAILABLE GOING FORWARD IF YOU SO WANTED TO DO THAT.

OKAY. BUT KEEP IN MIND YOU'RE MISSING THREE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS AT THE MOMENT.

YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT LATER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I DO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD CANCEL DECEMBER AS WELL.

CAN'T WE JUST ASK FOR ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING IN JANUARY? YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO IT IN DECEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT.

YOU'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY. DID YOU WANT TO IN JANUARY? NO, WE'RE SAYING JANUARY. YEAH. SO THEN IT WOULD BE A REGULAR MEETING. JANUARY, REGULAR MEETING FROM NOW ON. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

CAN WE JUST ASK FOR A SPECIAL DATE IN GENERAL? NOT YET. YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT FOR THE VERY NEXT MEETING.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO. THAT'S IN THE THE NEW ORDINANCES THAT WE CANNOT GO INTO FUTURE.

MY CALENDAR GOES RIGHT UP JANUARY. I'VE GOT IT.

OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY WANT TO CANCEL DECEMBER'S MEETING.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION. SECOND.

CANCEL DECEMBER'S MEETING. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. MOTION PASSES. DO YOU WISH TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING IN DECEMBER OR JUST WAIT TILL JANUARY? I WELL, I MEAN, DIDN'T WE JUST. WE JUST VOTED ON IT.

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YOU VOTED TO CANCEL. TO CANCEL. I MEAN, SAME AS WE DID FOR NOVEMBER.

BUT WE THEN WE SCHEDULED A SPECIAL MEETING. I FEEL LIKE IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE MISSING THREE OF OUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT I THINK I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD JUST STICK WITH OUR JANUARY, AND THEN FROM THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT GOING ON OUR REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS AS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE GOING MONTHLY, NOT EVERY OTHER MONTH. SO I JUST THINK THIS IS WILL BE THE YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TWO MEETINGS IN JANUARY.

I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ENOUGH WORK FOR US TO DO.

IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S YEAH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT IS. AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THEN. SO. YEAH. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TALK ABOUT CREATING A SPECIAL MEETING IN JANUARY? ARE WE ALL OKAY WITH. I AGREE WITH YOU. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE ISN'T HERE.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO K COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.

[K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT. OKAY.

K.1 RECEIVE AND FILE REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES.

DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES? JUST THAT WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN FROM OUR FROM THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. AND SO THEN THAT WILL HELP US MAYBE WITH ALSO THE NEW LITTLE MOTION THAT WE DID ALONG WITH THIS. BUT WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT ANY FUNDS, SO WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT.

AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I THINK THAT'S REALLY IT WITH THAT ONE.

HOW ABOUT THE ESPLANADE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE ESPLANADE? SO WITH THE ESPLANADE. THERE WAS A LOVELY FUNDRAISER THAT KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL.

HAD GOT A TALK WITH MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT EXPRESSED JUST THEIR LOVE FOR THE ESPLANADE AND AND GOT TO MEET SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE DEDICATED TO THAT.

SO JUST BEEN WORKING WITH GETTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, TALKING GETTING A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AREAS FOR IT.

ONE WAS PASEO DEL LA PLAYA ON THE ESPLANADE, THE CIRCLE, THE LITTLE MEDIAN THAT'S THERE.

IT'S A VISIBLE SPOT FOR SCULPTURAL WORK AND SMALL INSTALLATIONS.

A MODEST SCULPTURE CAN GO THERE. ALSO, WE ALL KNOW THE LOW WALL OF THE ESPLANADE.

EAST FACING. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATE. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE MOSAIC WORK THERE.

TILE WORK, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE VERY COST PRODUCTIVE AND DURABLE FOR OUR COASTAL ENVIRONMENT.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A WALL THAT'S GOOD FOR MOSAICS.

AND IT FACES INLAND RATHER THAN THE BEACH. ALSO THE TRASH AND RECYCLING BINS ALONG THE ESPLANADE.

THOSE HAVE POTENTIAL, MAYBE TO HAVE SOME FACIAL MOSAICS ON, ON THOSE AS WELL.

AND THEY CAN BE YOU KNOW, TURNED INTO LITTLE MINI CANVASES AND LOOK A LITTLE BIT PRETTIER THAN THAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE AS A AS A TRASH CAN. THE BLUFF GARDEN IS JUST SUCH A LOVELY, CHARMING LITTLE SPOT THAT'S THERE, AND THAT ALSO IS BETWEEN AVENUE A AND KNOB HILL.

THAT'S A PUBLIC FACING GREEN SPACE. THAT HAS A NICE VIEW.

THAT DEFINITELY LEADS TO POTENTIAL FOR A SCULPTURE.

THERE'S, IT COULD BE ALSO, AS WE KNOW THAT AS THE ESPLANADE, YOU KNOW, IS PRETTY EXPANSIVE.

THERE'S AN AREA THAT CAN ALSO HAVE WHICH GOES TO WHAT CHELSEA SAID EARLIER, WHERE THE BENCH WAS.

AND SO THAT WAS IN AN AREA IT'S LIKE KIND OF WHERE THE, THE OVERLOOK WHERE THE BALCONIES ARE AND SOME OF THOSE.

YEAH. THE KNOB HILL STAIRS RIGHT YEAH. THE KNOB HILL STAIRS.

BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE PIER, SO I KIND OF WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT ALONG THAT ESPLANADE.

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YOU KNOW, THERE SMALL SCULPTURES, METAL OR CONCRETE? YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE WERE SOME INPUT FROM FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THEY ASKED ABOUT.

AND SO ANYWAY, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF INPUT.

AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET SOME, SOME IDEAS, EVEN MAYBE A BREAKDOWN OF COST, YOU KNOW, SO IT CAN STRETCH OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL AGAIN, WE ALL IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT THEN IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HOPEFULLY RESEARCH MORE AND FIND A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE IT CAN BE STRETCHED OUT TO AND AT LEAST HAVE SOME DESIGNATED AREAS ALONG WITH IT TO, TO HAVE FOR WHATEVER THE ARTWORK IS GOING TO BE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE CONSIDERATIONS ALONG WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WITH PERMITTING APPROVAL, DURABILITY, MAINTENANCE.

AND SO AGAIN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS, YOU KNOW, KEY AND THEN WE JUST, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC VISIBILITY, WE WANT IT TO BE ENGAGING. AND WE KNOW IT CAN BE REALLY IMPACTFUL FOR 28.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP ON RESEARCHING AND MY OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE PERSON'S NOT HERE, BUT WE WILL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND KEEP IT UP. YEAH. I WAS LIKE, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. CAN WE INVOLVE PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THAT? OH, YES. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. YEAH. OKAY.

YES. SO PLEASE COME ON.

JOAN IRVINE DISTRICT ONE. KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND ALSO APPRECIATED YOU COMING TO OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE BENCHES AND THE GARBAGE CANS.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ON OUR OWN BEFORE THIS WAS FUND OVER TEN YEARS AGO, WE WERE SEEING THAT STARTING OFF KIND OF AT AVENUE I, THE RAMP GOING DOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST THE OFFICIAL KIND OF ENTRY TO THE BEACH.

AND ALSO THEN THAT IS KIND OF THE ENTRY INTO RIVIERA VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE IDEALLY WE HAD THOUGHT OF STARTING THERE.

THE FACING OF THE SITTING WALL. ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD THOUGHT OF AND I KNOW I THINK ELIZABETH, I HAD TALKED TO HER, SHE HAD THOUGHT OF IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE HAVING TILES BECAUSE THE THE BENCHES ARE ACTUALLY MEMORIAL BENCHES.

SO YOU COULD HAVE TILES INSTEAD OF THE BENCHES.

PEOPLE COULD DO MEMORIAL TILES, SUCH AS, LIKE KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE MEMORIAL BRICKS AT VETERANS PARK ALSO AS FUNDRAISERS, JUST IN CASE WE DO NEED MORE MONEY THAT WE COULD PROBABLY.

AND AS LONG AS IT'S UNIFORM, WE COULD PROBABLY GET BUSINESSES TO PURCHASE TILES ALSO SO THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FUNDRAISING CAPABILITY, WHICH OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO HELP WITH.

AND WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITING EXCITED BECAUSE AS I SAID, I CAME UP WITH THIS LIKE TEN YEARS AGO AND WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE $35,000 TO DO AVENUE I THERE. AND AND WE HAD 500, YOU KNOW, AND WE WEREN'T AS ORGANIZED AS WE ARE TODAY.

BUT I JUST THINK IT'S GREAT. AND TO HAVE THAT CONTINUITY, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT IT AND ALSO TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT JUST THIS IS THIS IS IT COULD BE A DECADE LONG PROJECT OR A COUPLE OF DECADES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE ENTRY AREAS TO THE BEACH AND THEN FILL IN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES MAY BE INVOLVED IN.

SO THANK YOU FOR MOVING IT FORWARD. AND WE DO HAVE BECAUSE WE WANTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BUT WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE GENERAL YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S DONE BY, YOU KNOW, 27, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'RE SURE THAT IT'S DONE BY, YOU KNOW, THE OLYMPICS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ADVICE AND YOUR HELP AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO OKAY. WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM ZOOM.

ALL RIGHT. YES. HI, THIS IS MARCIE GUILLERMO AGAIN.

[01:45:07]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WOULD SUGGEST TO CONSIDER THE END OF THE ESPLANADE WHERE IT'S GOING TOWARDS DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT.

AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU ARE WALKING DOWN TOWARDS THE WATERFRONT, THERE IS AN ENTRANCE INTO, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN THE ESPLANADE AND THE WATERFRONT. AND THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE ALSO HAVE A BENCH AND IT IT MAY, YOU KNOW, A DISCOVERY MOMENT TOWARDS THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THERE.

SOMETHING SIMPLE, BUT SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO DO WE. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES.

AND NEXT COMES TO ADJOURNMENT. AND I THINK BEFORE WE DO THAT, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WOULD LIKE TO US ALL IF WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION MEETING TO BE DEDICATED TO CHANTAL TOPOROW.

TONIGHT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION HONORS AND REMEMBERS OUR DEAR FRIEND CHANTAL TOPOROW, FORMER PUBLIC ART COMMISSIONER, PLANNING COMMISSIONER, ARTIST, ENGINEER AND DEDICATED COMMUNITY MEMBER.

CHANTAL BROUGHT A RARE BLEND OF CREATIVITY, INTELLIGENCE AND GENEROSITY TO REDONDO BEACH AS BOTH AN ARTIST AND ACCOMPLISHED ENGINEER.

SHE UNDERSTOOD HOW IDEAS TAKE SHAPE FROM CONCEPT TO CREATION, AND SHE USED THAT INSIGHT TO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC ART, CITY PLANNING, AND COMMUNITY PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

THROUGH HER WORK WITH THE REDONDO BEACH ART GROUP, FRIENDS OF REDONDO BEACH ARTS AND COUNTLESS LOCAL INITIATIVES, CHANTAL SHARED HER TALENTS FREELY. SHE WAS AN AVID GARDENER AND PASSIONATE, PASSIONATE SUPPORTER OF THE ARTS AND PERSON WHO LIFTED EVERY SPACE SHE ENTERED.

CHANTAL WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY VOLUNTEER, A BRILLIANT THINKER AND ABOVE ALL, AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING.

HER KINDNESS, HER CREATIVITY AND HER SERVICE WILL BE CONTINUED TO INSPIRED US WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US IN APPRECIATION AND REMEMBRANCE.

WE DEDICATE THIS MEETING OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO CHANTAL TOPOROW, A TRUE FRIEND OF THE ARTS AND A LASTING AND A LASTING GIFT TO REDONDO BEACH.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN. OKAY. WITH THAT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL SECOND. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PIECE AT THE BOTTOM YOU READ.

OKAY. SO THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION WAS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 24TH, 2025, HAS BEEN CANCELED. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 28TH.

JANUARY 28TH, 2026. 26. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING TONIGHT'S MEETING? BY MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:51. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.