Nov 20, 2025 Planning Commission

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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

COMMISSIONER YOUNG. COMMISSIONER GADDIS. PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CONROY. HERE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

HERE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. HERE. WE NOW WILL STAND FOR A SALUTE TO THE FLAG.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SO NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, AS WELL. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS.

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. THESE ARE BUSINESS ITEMS, EXCEPT FOR THOSE FORMERLY NOTICED FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR THOSE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ARE

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

THE CHAIR WILL CALL ON ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PULLED BY THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE, AND COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES.

AND WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. WE HAVE APPROVAL FOR OUR POSTING AND THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING ON MAY 20TH.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. CONSENT CALENDAR. CALENDAR ITEMS. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. SIR. LET'S SEE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXCLUDED ITEMS NOW.

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.

AND I HAVE SOME CARDS, I HAVE A I BELIEVE HER NAME IS THERESA MITCHELL.

OH, JIM. OKAY, JIM MUELLER, PLEASE COME ON DOWN.

YOU LOOK FAMILIAR. I THINK I'VE SEEN YOU BEFORE.

GOOD EVENING ALL. I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU ALL, FOR MANY OF YOU, FOR A MONTH, SO.

GOOD EVENING. A WEEKLY FARMER'S MARKET IN NORTH REDONDO ON OR NEAR ARTESIA BOULEVARD IS A VERY POPULAR IDEA.

JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, I CREATED AN ONLINE PETITION WITH THE PURPOSE TO INCENTIVIZE THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO INVEST IN THE FARMER'S MARKET FOR NORTH REDONDO. I POSTED THE PETITION ON NEXTDOOR AND NORTH REDONDO FACEBOOK PAGE TWO WEEKS AGO.

NOT ONLY ARE THERE NEARLY 600 SIGNATURES, BUT 99% COMMENTS POSITIVE COMMENTS ACCOMPANYING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES.

I PROPOSED THE IDEA TO THE REDONDO BEACH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

MARA SANTOS, THE CEO, REPLIED, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I WOULD BE MORE THAN HONORED TO HELP BRING A FARMER'S MARKET INTO OUR AREA.

ROBIN GARFIELD, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NRBBA, WROTE I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN IN OUR AREA AND BE SUSTAINABLE. AS PROVEN IN OTHER CALIFORNIA CITIES LIKE REDONDO BEACH, REVITALIZATION BEGINS WITH GIVING THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THEY WANT. BUSINESS WILL FOLLOW. I SEE A FARMER'S MARKET NOT ONLY HELPING THE EXISTING BUSINESSES ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, BUT ENCOURAGING NEW BUSINESSES TO MOVE IN, RESULTING IN A MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY AND MORE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

I URGE THE COMMISSION TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL AND CITY GOVERNMENT TO FACILITATE THIS WORTHWHILE ASSET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU JIM. AND NEXT WE HAVE THERESA MITCHELL.

HI. AND I THINK WAYNE DISTRIBUTED THE DOCUMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE FARMER'S MARKET.

SO THE BACKSTORY ON THAT IS JIM HAS BEEN GOING TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL CAME BACK TO HIM AND SAID OR COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND ASKED WHEN AND WHERE SHOULD WE HAVE IT? BECAUSE WITHOUT BURDENING STAFF TO DO THAT.

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SO ONE OF THE TABLES THAT WE PROVIDED IS THEY TOOK THE LIKE STARTING WITH THE WHEN CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURE PROVIDES A LIST OF ALL THE CERTIFIED FARMERS MARKETS IN CALIFORNIA, IN LA COUNTY, THERE'S 175 OF THEM.

AND THEN NARROWED DOWN TO LOCAL. AND I WAS VERY BROAD WITH LOCAL, INCLUDING LIKE SANTA MONICA.

AND THERE'S ABOUT 21 OF THEM. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE TABLE, WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THERE'S A LOT OF MORNING MARKETS, THERE'S A LOT OF WEEKEND MARKETS. AND THEY'RE ALL SURROUNDING REDONDO BUT, NONE IN NORTH REDONDO.

AND WHAT WE FOUND IS LIKE WEDNESDAY, THERE SEEMS TO BE A VOID.

THE ONLY MARKETS THERE ARE ARE SANTA MONICA AND HARBOR CITY.

AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE VERY FEW EVENING MARKETS.

AND SINCE THAT, THAT AREA IS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE LARGEST DENSITY IN, THE HIGHEST DENSITY IN REDONDO BEACH THAT WE'RE THINKING A WEDNESDAY EVENING MARKET FROM 2 TO 5 DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE OTHER MARKETS.

AND THEN IT ALSO PROVIDES A ANOTHER TIME. YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, FOR WORKING PROFESSIONALS AND FAMILIES AND KIDS AFTER SCHOOL. THE SECOND THING THAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT SITES.

SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT JIM HAD GOTTEN FROM THE FACEBOOK POST, WE LOOKED AT 13 POTENTIAL SITES THAT ARE PUBLIC, PRIVATE AND PARKS AND NARROWED THEM DOWN. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE JUST OUTRIGHT EXCLUDED BECAUSE, LIKE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE ANDERSON PARK, FOR INSTANCE, HAS LINCOLN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO AN EVENING MARKET WOULD JUST CONFLICT WITH, YOU KNOW, PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIME.

SO KIND OF A NIGHTMARE FOR LOGISTICS, BUT WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO FIVE SITES.

THAT WOULD BE POTENTIAL. SO THE SCE RIGHT AWAY, PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THE LIBRARY A STREET CLOSURE AND THEN PERRY PARK.

AND THEN OF THE STREET CLOSURES WE ALSO LOOKED AT ALL THE TEN.

THERE'S, I THINK TEN BLOCKS BETWEEN AVIATION AND INGLEWOOD AND OF THOSE WE WE ELIMINATED FOR BUS ROUTES, FIRE ROUTES AND BUS ROUTES, FIRE ROUTES, AS WELL AS THROUGH STREETS AND SO OR STREETS THAT WERE ALMOST ALL RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT GAVE US THE SOUTHERN BLOCK OF GREEN.

AND THEN I THINK IT'S I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THING, BUT I THINK IT'S FEELING THE NORTH AND SOUTH IS POTENTIAL FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS FROM COUNCIL.

MOTION TO EXTEND. SECOND. YOU CAN CONTINUE. SO I THINK THAT AND SO WHAT WE'RE, LOOKING FOR IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING COMMISSION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THESE VIABLE.

AND THEN ALSO IF WE ARE GOING LIKE RECOMMENDATION ON SITES AND LOCATION, BECAUSE THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE FINDING A PROFESSIONAL MARKET MANAGER TO MANAGE THE MARKET AND SELECT THE VENDORS. BUT AGAIN, THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING AND THEN FEEDBACK FROM THE BUSINESSES IS WHEN AND WHERE FIRST.

AND THEN WE CAN TELL YOU IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE ASKING. I HAVE A QUESTION TO CLARIFY QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED SOME DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND ONE OF THE ONES I MENTIONED WAS THE NORTH LIBRARY, WHICH I THINK FITS A LOT OF IDEAS.

CAN YOU SAY SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WHY THAT WAS A LOCATION THAT SEEMED TO WORK WELL WITHIN THE WHOLE SCOPE OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD AS COMPARED TO, SAY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE LIKED THE LIBRARY WAS ONE. IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE. SO BUT THEN IT ALSO HAD IT HAD A NUMBER OF THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

SO WE PREFERRED SOMEWHERE ON AVIATION RATHER THAN THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT'S IN THAT'S ON MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO IT. SO LET ME PULL UP THE SHEET AND I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF THE CRITERIA.

SO THE MAIN CRITERIA WE WANTED IS ENGAGEMENT WITH BUSINESSES, WALKABILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

SO THIS HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST DENSITY AREAS AGAIN.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY MULTIFAMILY.

IT ALSO HAS THE LIGHTING, THERE'S PARKING AT THE PARKS AND REC AND STREET PARKING ONCE PARKS AND REC OR I GUESS IT'S CALLED COMMUNITY SERVICE NOW ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S BATHROOMS, THERE'S LIGHTING, THERE'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY ACTIVITY.

IT'S ALREADY A CIVIC AREA IT'S CLOSE TO MARIPOSA HIGH SCHOOL, SO IT GIVES AN ACTIVITY FOR IN THE AFTERNOONS, THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS COMING AND YOU KNOW, SPENDING THEIR TIME AND ENERGY THERE, AS WELL AS BIRNEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS JUST A FEW BLOCKS UP SO THAT AGAIN, IT BECOMES A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND THEN I THINK THAT HAD ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES OF BUSINESSES OF 35 BUSINESSES WITHIN A QUARTER MILE.

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SO THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTIVELY ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO STIMULATE BUSINESS.

AND ALSO THE MARKETS, PEOPLE TEND 70 TO 80% OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO A FARMER'S MARKET ALSO ENGAGE IN ANOTHER BUSINESS ACTIVITY THERE.

SO THEY STOP AND GO TO THE DRY CLEANERS OR THEY GO AND GET DINNER AFTERWARDS.

IT BECOMES IT'S IT HAS A CHAIN EFFECT AND A MULTIPLIER EFFECT INTO THE ECONOMY.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WERE THERE. VERY GOOD.

AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE MATERIAL, YOU'VE DONE SOME AMAZING RESEARCH AND CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT IT MORE.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF BACKGROUND OF THE HEAVY LIFTING THAT'LL MAKE THIS A MUCH MORE EASIER PROJECT TO PUSH FORWARD AT SOME POINT.

THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION? HAVE A QUESTION. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTS TO WHICH SHE REFERS SO THAT THEY CAN ENTER THE PUBLIC RECORD? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE. DOCUMENTS ARE THESE. DOESN'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT.

IT'S IN THE BLUR FOLDER. WELL, NO I SUBMIT THEY WERE PRINTED OUT NOT AS BLUE FOLDER ITEMS, BUT TO BE RECEIVING FILE ITEMS UNDER NON AGENDIZED ITEMS. AND JAMAAL YOU HAD PRINTED THOSE. PROVIDED THOSE OKAY.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THOSE. IT'S ONE OF THESE IN HERE.

DID YOU. IT'S NOT THESE. YOU DIDN'T? NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WERE ABOUT TO HAND THEM OUT, AND I SAID, WE GOT THEM IN AN EMAIL.

YEAH, YEAH. OH, OKAY. YOU GOT AN EMAIL ATTACHMENT? YEAH, HE SENT US AN EMAIL. OKAY. JUST A RECEIVE AND FILE THING.

YEAH. IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM YET. SHOULD WE NOT BE READING IT ALSO.

WHEN IT'S AGENDIZED WE STILL HAVE THEM. AT THAT POINT.

YEAH. LISTEN WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LOOK AT IT. WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEM OUT. LOOK AT IT YET ANYWAY. DOUG. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT. I HAVE A COPY. ONE AT A TIME. WE'LL GIVE YOU A COPY. AGAIN. JUST MAKE SURE.

THERE YOU GO. THEY'RE RIGHT HERE. YEAH, YEAH.

SO WE HAVE A HARD COPY, BUT AGAIN THE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL.

BUT THIS IS THE PACKET THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO WHILE THEY'RE, WHILE THEY'RE WHINING AWAY ABOUT THAT, WHAT IS YOUR EVALUATION. VILLAGE. OF THE PARKING SITUATION AT THE LIBRARY.

SORRY OOPS. FOR A FARMER'S MARKET IN THE AFTERNOON? IS THAT DISPLACED LIBRARY PARKING? HAVE ELECTRIC.

SO WE CAN'T REALLY ENGAGE. I'M SORRY. AT THIS TIME.

WHEN IT COMES BACK WE CAN HAVE. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO THE COMMISSION CAN'T DISCUSS THE MATTER TONIGHT.

BUT WHEN WE GET TO ITEM N. I DON'T THINK THIS PRESENTATION I WOULDN'T STOP YOU.

I JUST SAW THAT. YEAH. SO THE WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THERE ARE MAPS ATTACHED OF EVERYWHERE WE ARE LEAVING SOME OF THE PARKING OPEN.

AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR TO GET HIS COMMENT.

AND ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY GET IF WE USE ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPACES, THEN IT WOULD LIKELY GO TO THE AMENITIES COMMISSION FOR THEIR APPROVAL FOR ONE OF THE SITES THAT THEY HAVE THE PURVIEW OVER. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR NOW, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY EXPLORE THIS IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE GO THROUGH. THE COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN IT'S AGENDIZED.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE, JAMAAL? OR IS THAT IT? THERE ARE NO E-ATTENDEES ONLINE RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

NEXT, WE HAVE. IS IT SOMETHING WE SAID. OKAY.

RECEIVE AND FILE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.

[I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]

I NEVER TALKED TO ANYBODY. I'M ANTISOCIAL. COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. COMMISSIONER CONROY. I SPOKE WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND WITH CHAIR CRAIG ON J.1.

AND COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND BRIEFLY WITH CHAIR CRAIG.

AND I WILL CONCUR. I SPOKE BRIEFLY WITH BOTH COMMISSIONERS CONROY AND HAZELTINE AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FREQUENTS THE RESTAURANT QUITE OFTEN.

THOSE WHO WENT TO HERMOSA

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[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

YES. OUR SENIOR PLANNER, STEVEN GIANG, IS THE ASSIGNED PLANNER TO THIS PROJECT.

AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

SHOULD THE CHAIRMAN READ THE. I SHOULD READ J.1, ACTUALLY.

YEAH. THE ITEM THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. VERY GOOD.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF A NEW RESTAURANT BUSINESS CHIPOTLE WITH AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE OF AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 413 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY AND A COMMERCIAL CA ZONE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVEN. I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM HERE TONIGHT BEFORE YOU FOR A PROPOSAL TO HAVE A NEW RESTAURANT BUSINESS, CHIPOTLE, WITHIN A PLAZA AT 413 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, JUST SOUTH OF BERYL STREET.

THE SITE IS ZONED C-2A COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST ARE ZONED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL, AND PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL.

THE LOT SIZE ITSELF IS 257,349FT², AND THE LOT ITSELF CONTAINS A 107,396FT², TWO STORY BUILDING WITH MULTIPLE TENANTS THROUGHOUT.

THERE ARE TWO. THERE ARE TWO WAY DRIVEWAYS COMING FROM NORTH PCH, BERYL STREET AND CARNELIAN STREET, AND THE SUBJECT TENANT SPACE ITSELF IS 2,533FT².

AS NOTED IN THE BLUE FOLDER THAT YOU RECEIVED, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE TENANT SPACE AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT IS ALSO GOING TO BE ADDING A WALL, RESULTING IN A DIMINISHED SIZE OF THE CENTINELA PET PET FEED SUPPLY STORE.

ABOUT 2877FT² WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE PET STORE IN ORDER TO CREATE THE SPACE AND ADDITIONALLY, THE EXISTING TANNING SALON THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF THE THAT'S THERE NOW WILL BE EXPANDED.

HOWEVER, WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS ON THE CHIPOTLE, THE TENANT WILL VACATE AND THAT WILL BE AN EMPTY SPACE FOR A FUTURE TENANT, UNDETERMINED AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THE AERIAL AND WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE CHIPOTLE WILL BE LOCATED.

HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE AS IT STANDS TODAY.

SO THIS PORTION WILL BE A PART OF THE NEW CHIPOTLE.

SO THIS IS PART OF WHAT THE CENTINELA PET FEED STORE IS GIVING.

AND THEN A NEW WALL WILL BE ADDED WHERE THIS TANNING SALON IS HERE TO ESSENTIALLY CUT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE, BUT EXTEND THE TENANT SPACE LONGER. THE RESTAURANT CATERS TO A WIDE DEMOGRAPHIC AND OPERATES DAILY FROM 10:45 A.M. TO 11 P.M. THE RESTAURANT WILL EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 40 STAFF MEMBERS, HOWEVER, NO MORE THAN A PEAK OF 12 EMPLOYEES AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

THE FACILITY ENCOMPASSES 1,025FT² OF DINING SPACE, WHICH INCLUDES 297FT² OF SEATING AND INCLUDES 975FT² KITCHEN AND PREP AREA, 283FT² OF STORAGE, AND 250FT² OF RESTROOMS AND OFFICE SPACE.

THE OUTDOOR DINING PORTION COVERS AN ADDITIONAL 417FT², WHEN AND WILL INCLUDED A TOTAL OF 16 OUT OF THE 56 SEATS FOR THE ENTIRE RESTAURANT. NOISE WILL BE LIMITED COMPLETELY TO INDOORS, WITH NO LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PLANNED, AND DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT AN ALCOHOL LICENSE CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE APPLICANT, BEER MAY BE SOLD ON SITE DURING ALL OPERATING HOURS, AND THE LOCATION WILL ALSO PROVIDE NOT ONLY DINE IN, BUT CATERING AND DELIVERY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE DESIGNATED STORE PICKUP AREAS.

FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING PORTION, A SMALL FENCE IS PROPOSED TO PARTITION THE OUTDOOR DINING FROM THE SIDEWALK, AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ALL BUILDING AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO INGRESS AND EGRESS, AND MAINTAINING THE CORRECT WIDTH FOR THE SPACE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE FENCE.

HERE IS A SITE OVERVIEW OF THE PARKING. THERE IS A SUBTERRANEAN PARKING UNDERNEATH THIS SITE.

A STUDY FROM 2016 CONCLUDED THAT THE SITE HAS AMPLE PARKING FOR THE SUBJECT USE.

THAT SURVEY SHOWED A SURPLUS OF 53 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE DURING PEAK TIMES ON WEEKDAYS, AND A TOTAL OF 76 ON WEEKENDS. THE PROPOSED USE OF CHIPOTLE ITSELF REQUIRES 11 SPACES AND SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE RESTAURANT.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH THE CENTINELA PET FEED REMOVING ITS SPACE, THE 2,877FT² ALSO EQUALS 11 SPACES THAT WAS REQUIRED FOR THE PET FEED STORE.

SO NOW ESSENTIALLY THE CHIPOTLE IS GETTING ALMOST A NET ZERO PARKING RATIO.

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THE SITE FOR THE PROPOSED USE HAS ADEQUATE ACCESS ALONG THREE DIFFERENT STREETS.

THE PROPOSED USE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE ANY INTENDED ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES DUE TO ESSENTIALLY THE NOISE, SINCE ALL THE NOISE WILL BE INDOORS. AND THEN ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED.

SO WE'RE REQUIRING THAT THE BUSINESS OBTAINS ALL NECESSARY ALCOHOL LICENSES FROM CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL.

IF THEY DO DECIDE TO SERVE ALCOHOL ON THE PREMISES CONDITIONS ALSO INCLUDE THAT THE BUSINESS OPERATES BETWEEN THE HOUR OF 10:45 A.M.

TO 11 P.M., SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND THAT THE USE SHALL NOT HAVE ANY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT OR AMPLIFIED MUSIC FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUSINESS.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE THE FINDINGS AS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT.

ADOPT THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND GRANT THE REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SUBJECT TO THE PLANS AND APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. THANK YOU. SO THE PET STORE WILL BE MOVING NORTH.

I NOTICED THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION NOW, BUT FROM THE PICTURE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE MOVING NORTH.

AND THEN THE CHIPOTLE WILL BE SOUTH OF THE. SO SO THAT'S.

THIS AND TO THE, TO THE RIGHT IS THE PET FEED STORE.

AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO PUT A WALL BEHIND THIS PILLAR ALL THE WAY DOWN OKAY.

SO THE WALL HERE IS THIS IS WHERE THE PET FEED STORE USED TO BE.

IS THIS WHOLE OH SORRY. YEAH. THIS WHOLE AREA.

SO NOW THEY'RE PUTTING A WALL HERE AND THEN SO THE PET FEED STORE WILL NOW END HERE INSTEAD OF USED TO GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE LEFT.

BECAUSE THIS WHOLE SPACE USED TO BE THE PET FEED STORE AS WELL. AND THE TANNING SALON USED TO BE HERE AND OVER ON THIS SIDE NOW THEY'RE PUTTING A WALL HERE. PET STORE IS GOING TO END UP GOING TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, THE CHIPOTLE? TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PHOTO. SO IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE.

OKAY. BUT IT'S GOING TO GET SMALLER AND IT'S GOING TO REMAIN TO THE RIGHT. OKAY. THEN CHIPOTLE GOES IN BASICALLY.

HERE AND HERE. TO THE LEFT. YES, YES. OKAY. AND SO THE OUTDOOR DINING SPACE WILL BE WHERE THESE PILLARS ARE HERE.

I SEE. GOTCHA. JUST FOLLOWING. SO AND SO THE TANNING PLACE GOES AWAY COMPLETELY. AND THE CHIPOTLE TAKES OVER ROUGHLY HALF OF THE SPACE.

THE TANNING SPOT IS IN NOW. YES. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE REMAINING HALF BECOMES VACANT SPACE.

YES. SO AS SOON AS CONSTRUCTION STARTS. SO THE WAY THIS TANNING SALON IS SET UP, IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD BECAUSE IT CUTS ACROSS THIS WHOLE AREA, BUT THEN THE PET FEED STORE ACTUALLY CUTS BEHIND IT.

AND SO NOW THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROPOSING A LONG WALL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAKE THE SPACES EVEN.

AND THIS TANNING SALON WILL BE MOVING. AND THIS WILL BE VACATED WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE REPLACING IT. WHATEVER IS REPLACING IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT USE IT IS, COULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNDER CUP OR BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. PUBLIC. PUBLIC.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ECOMMENTS AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE APPLICANTS AT ALL? OR MAYBE.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. IS THE OWNER OF THE STRIP MALL HERE OR JUST THE.

SWORN IN? IF ARE YOU THE PROPONENT OR THE OWNER OF THE MALL? NO, I'M ACTUALLY THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ARCHITECT.

WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE FACADE. SO WE ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR THE CUP APPLICATION.

OKAY I GUESS I SHOULD SWEAR. AND STILL. WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK, WE ASK THEM TO PLEASE, TO SPEAK THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO SAY YES.

YES. AND THEN GO AHEAD AND PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE.

MY NAME IS GAYLARAI ARBAB. I'M FROM THE MMA ARCHITECTURE.

I'M A SENIOR DESIGNER, VERY GOOD. AND DESIGNER FOR CHIPOTLE, NOT THE MALL.

NO, WE'RE PART OF THE MALL. OKAY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, THEN.

LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. IT LOOKS WONDERFUL.

IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD. BUT WHEN I DRIVE BY OR WHEN I SHOP THERE ALL THE TIME, THERE'S NO TREES.

YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF PALM TREES, BUT THEY'RE UP HIGH WHERE THE AIRPLANES FLY, AND THERE'S NOTHING REALLY ON GROUND LEVEL.

DID YOU GUYS INTEND ON DOING ANY LANDSCAPING IN THE MALL? ACTUALLY THE LANDSCAPING IS UNDER PROCESS AT THE MOMENT.

SO WE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING PLANT BUILT IN PLANTERS IN THE MALL AROUND THE MALL.

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SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING A PLAN FOR HAVING PLANTERS ALL AROUND.

BUT THEY'RE LIKE THEY'RE NOT BUILT IN PLANTERS, SO THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL PLANTERS. SO THAT'S STILL UNDER THE WAY.

HOW ABOUT ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE THERE'S A BUNCH OF PLANTERS THAT AREN'T OVER THE GARAGE? I DON'T THINK THEY'RE OVER THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

SO ON PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. WELL, JUST RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PLANTERS THERE.

AND I NOTICED YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPING OR AT LEAST YOU STARTED IT.

IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR TREES? I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT.

COULD YOU. YEAH I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. COULD YOU TALK TO THEM AND JUST SAY THAT? I MEAN, IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE SOME A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE, LIKE IF I WHAT HAPPENS IS, LET'S SAY THAT I'M DRIVING FROM SOMEWHERE AND MY DOGS IN THE BACK.

THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK WHERE THERE'S ANY SHADE BEING CREATED AT ALL, UNLESS I PARK WHERE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK IN FRONT OF THE DRY CLEANERS, BECAUSE THAT'S FIVE MINUTES KIND OF THING. SO THERE'S NO SHADE.

RIGHT? ABOVE THE GROUND. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. DEFINITELY MAKE A NOTE AND THEN. THANK YOU.

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A STRETCH TONIGHT TO PUT THAT IN THERE, BUT ANYWHERE THAT WE COULD FIT IN SOME SHADE TREES WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

THAT WOULD REALLY BE. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. ANYBODY KNOW HOW MANY SPACES ARE IN THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING OUT OF THE SUN. OR THE PARKING AREA? YEAH, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING. THAT'S. A LOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF SPACES. AND THEY HAVE CHARGERS DOWN THERE TOO.

YEAH THEY DO. AND YEAH CHARGERS. DOGS ALLOWED THAT.

ALLOWED TO BE IN A CAR DOWN THERE. YEAH TOTALLY.

DOUG. PUT TREES IN ANYWAY. DOUG WHAT IF I HAVE A PROBLEM? THIS IS GALE SPEAKING. HAZELTINE. YEAH. WITH PARKING UNDERGROUND.

WELL, THEN I GUESS. I NEED A TREE. THERE'S 800 OTHER DRY CLEANERS TO GO TO.

OKAY. BUT ANYWAY, THE POINT IS, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE TREES.

WE WANT TREES EVERYWHERE. BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK IN THE SHADE IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE THERE.

AND YOU MAY NOT WANT TO PARK UNDERGROUND. THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL DECISION.

OKAY, WELL, WE'RE COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. YEAH, ACTUALLY, TREES COOL DOWN AREAS.

SO AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN GET TO TO DECREASE THE HEAT.

WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT. OF ALL OF THE CEMENT. WE AGREE ON THAT.

WOULD BE WONDERFUL. WE AGREE ON THAT. GOOD. BUT SHE'S JUST TOLD US THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE ON MOST OF THE PROPERTY.

WELL WE'RE KIND OF VEERING OFF THE TOPIC OF THE APPROVAL HERE TONIGHT.

GRANTED, THE TREE CANOPY IS A BIG ISSUE, I KNOW, FOR ALL OF US.

AND WE ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

SO THAT'LL PROBABLY BE A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TOPIC PERHAPS.

THANK YOU CHAIR. SHOULD I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS PROJECT? I THINK IT'S GREAT. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. YOU HAD YOUR HAND? YES, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT'S I REALLY LIKE THE OUTSIDE PATIO.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE SITTING OUTSIDE.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. SHOULD WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER. MAKE A MOTION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF A NEW RESTAURANT, CHIPOTLE, WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE AT 413 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY IN THE C-2A ZONE, AS DETAILED IN CASE NUMBER 20250247, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER LIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.

YES. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. YES. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.

YES. COMMISSIONER CONROY. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. YES. MOTION CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS QUICK. YEAH. I POUND THE GAVEL.

SOMEONE'S COMPUTER IS HIDING IT. THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ROB'S TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE GAVEL. IT'S RIGHT HERE. I KNOW, THERE WE GO.

MAKE IT OFFICIAL. INSTEAD OF A GONG. RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON ITEM K. I BELIEVE ITEMS CONTINUE FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS.

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ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF? NO NO ITEMS. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT ITEM AS A RESULT OF

[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]

IT REALLY, THOUGH, WE COULDN'T PUT IT ON. AND I'M KIND OF BLURRING M AND N TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF PROCEDURAL THINGS ARE HAPPENING NOW.

YOU RECEIVED THE ORDINANCES FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, RULES OF CONDUCT AND POWERS AND DUTIES, ETCETERA.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO GET, YOU KNOW, THIS FARMER'S MARKET ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IT WOULD BE UNDER ITEM N, AND IT WOULD NEED A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION AND A SECOND AND THEN A VOTE.

AND WITH THIS ITEM AND WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE EACH ONE AS IT COMES.

STAFF, WE DO KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME ITEMS RECEIVE AND FILE ON NON AGENDIZED ITEMS. FOR THE FARMERS MARKET STAFF IS WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ISSUE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OR THAT, THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE DOCUMENTATION.

STAFF WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, PULL TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT AND HELP THE DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING.

WITH RESPECT TO THE RESOURCES IT TAKES FROM THE CITY TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE FARMER'S MARKETS, DEPENDING ON IF THEY'RE CITY PROPERTY OR NOT, ETC..

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK. STAFF IS THAT IS AT THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED.

SO WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE REPORT TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO HAVE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO IDENTIFY THAT.

SO WE COULD PULL IT TOGETHER IN PREPARATION FOR THE AGENDA OF THIS MATTER AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

OKAY. I HAVE ONE THING I'D PROBABLY I WOULD SAY THIS, I GUESS ONE THING THAT I WOULD PROBABLY ASK ON THAT IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FARMER'S MARKET OF WHAT EXACTLY IS REQUIRED FROM THE CITY AS FAR AS A PERMIT.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION FEE. WHAT FORM WOULD THAT BE? IS THERE INSURANCE, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE FOR THAT TYPE OF ITEM ONCE WE STARTED IT? SO THAT WHEN IN ANY EVENT, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO WANTS TO DO IT, THEY KIND OF KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE UP AGAINST.

IF IT'S A THEY NEED TO GET INSURANCE OR NOT, THEY NEED TO HAVE A WHAT THE FEE IS FOR IT.

HOW LONG IS THE PERMIT FOR? IS IT A SPECIAL BUSINESS LICENSE OR APPLICATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WELL, OR PERMIT JUST WHATEVER THE CITY REQUIRES? THAT WAY THEY'LL MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE EASIER, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE EXCITED, AND THEN THEY FIND THEY HAVE A WHOLE LARGE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, IN ADDITION TO JUST GETTING VENDORS TO SHOW UP TO IT.

YEAH. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TOO JUST I JUST HEARD, YOU KNOW, SAW THE EMAIL TODAY AND QUICKLY GLANCED AT THE INFORMATION.

AND THERE'S OPTIONS FOR LOCATIONS. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MATERIAL AND ALL THIS INFORMATION AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU RECOMMEND A PARTICULAR LOCATION OR PRIORITIZE THEM OR IF IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE YOU CAN GET IT, WE'RE GOOD.

YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THAT DISCUSSION GOES? AND IN PREPARING YOUR REPORT IF YOU, I GUESS I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT IF THE STAFF NEEDS TO OBVIOUSLY SPEAK TO ONE OF THE CREATORS OF IT MISS [INAUDIBLE], WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE NOW? AND ANY OTHER PEOPLE? CERTAINLY WE'D BE AVAILABLE TO, YOU KNOW, AID IN THAT, BECAUSE.

YEAH ABSOLUTELY. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO. I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY BUSY, AND I WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PROCESS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR STAFF AND THE CITY TOO. SO BASICALLY ESSENTIALLY DOING ALL THE BACKGROUND LEGWORK FOR YOU TO HELP YOU OUT, FOR SURE. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT CERTAINLY REACH OUT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO BE REACHED OUT ON THAT. OKAY.

SURE. YES. COMMISSIONER CONROY. ON THE SAME SUBJECT.

SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT, WELL, AS A COMMISSION, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DIRECT CITY STAFF TO DO WORK, BUT SO IN THIS CASE STAFF'S CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST TO AGENDIZE THIS FOR OUR BODY, AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY AND THEN ULTIMATELY MAKE A MOTION TO

[00:35:07]

YEAH, I THINK THE AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS SINCE THIS WASN'T ORIGINATED BY THE CITY WE'RE KIND OF LIKE DOING IT THE OTHER DIRECTION, SO TO SPEAK. YEAH. IF THIS WAS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD PROBABLY EVEN BE INVOLVED, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A SOMEONE JUST DECIDING TO SET IT UP, GOING TO THE STAFF AND THEN GETTING A PERMIT.

GETTING A PERMIT. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT.

IT'S KIND OF WORKED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. AND SINCE IT INVOLVES CITY PROPERTY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO IF IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR IT'S SOMETHING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN APPROVE. YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER ANGLE TOO PERHAPS PROBABLY THE LIBRARY COMMISSION.

IF IT WAS THAT SITE, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A PERMISSION, NOT LIBRARY COMMISSION, BUT THE LIBRARY COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE TO GIVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND ANY REQUIREMENTS THEY MAY HAVE ON THAT TOO.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S STILL KIND OF LIKE WORKING INDEPENDENT OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE MOST PART IT SEEMS. BUT BUT I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE TO PUBLIC REACHED OUT.

THIS IS AN IDEA. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME BUY IN FROM THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT AND THEN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IN OUR ADVISORY ROLE. EXACTLY. YEAH. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

WOULD IT BE FASTER TO GET ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE TO PUT IT, ASK FOR IT TO BE AGENDIZED ON THERE? SO FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL PERSON OBAGI SEEMS TO BE SUPPORTING IT.

COULDN'T HE ASK FOR IT TO BE? WOULD THAT JUST KIND OF, LIKE, CUT TO THE CHASE A LITTLE BIT FASTER? IT COULD. YES. I MEAN, AS A BODY, IF YOU WANTED TO RECOMMEND SOMEBODY APPROACH COUNCILMAN OBAGI AND WITH A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE ON THE AGENDA THIS NEXT AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

YEAH. SO IF YOU DID IT AS A BODY, I MEAN, YOU COULD DO IT ON YOUR OWN.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. I THINK THE CHAIR CRAIG HAS ALREADY SPOKEN WITH HIM. I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE REACHED OUT AND CALLED ME. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER AND BEHRENDT.

AND NOT OBAGI. YEAH, I BRIEFLY TALKED WITH HIM, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE OTHER TWO.

THE CONCERN THEY HAD WERE ESSENTIALLY JUST THE BAD THERE, I HATE TO USE THE TERM THEIR POTENTIAL BANDWIDTH WITH ALL THE STUFF THEY HAVE ON THEIR AGENDA, THEY WERE IN ESSENCE, THEY WERE ALMOST SAYING, CAN YOU DO MORE OF THIS FOR US WITHOUT OFFICIALLY DOING IT.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A BODY HERE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S WAYS, PERHAPS THROUGH A PILOT PROGRAM THAT'S TEMPORARY IN NATURE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SIX MONTH OR SPECIAL EVENT OR TEMPORARY USE PROCESS THAT IT CAN BE DONE PURELY ADMINISTRATIVELY AND NOT INVOLVE CITY COUNCIL.

RIGHT. AND THEN THE FEELING I GOT FROM THAT, THEY WERE JUST, AGAIN, KIND OF OVERWHELMED WITH YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BIG ISSUES GOING ON WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW WITH OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

THAT'S A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, STAFF WITH OUR WITH CONDITIONAL PROJECTS, YOU I THINK YOU HAVE 130 OF THEM, I THINK, IN PROCESS OF TRYING TO BE COMPLETED IN THE CITY FOR PLANS.

AND WE MIGHT GET 20 OR 30 DONE, PERHAPS IF WE'RE, IF WE REALLY ORGANIZED THIS YEAR.

SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE'VE GOT A SKILL SET AND AND PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP OUT, WHICH WOULD SPEED THE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN MUCH MORE QUICKLY.

AND I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR ALL OF US.

COMMISSIONER. I THINK IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT'S SORT OF A CHOICE BETWEEN PRESENTING A FULLY BAKED IDEA AND A CONCEPT, OR A HALF BAKED IDEA INSTEAD. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, JUST PRESENT IT AS, OKAY, THIS SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK.

AND THESE VARIOUS PARTIES HAVE BEEN CONSULTED ON IT, LIBRARY, COMMISSION, STAFF, ETC..

COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. OKAY, SO WE HASH IT OUT AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.

WE YOU GUYS ARE DOING SO MUCH WORK, IT'S INSANE.

THE EMAIL THAT WE GOT TODAY, ALL THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, YOUR GROUP.

SO AFTER THAT'S ALL TOGETHER, WE HASH IT OUT AND THEN WE HOP TO CITY COUNCIL.

THAT SOUNDS TO BE THE PROCESS. OKAY. WE SHOULD GO ABOUT.

THAT'LL BE THE PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS, YES.

OKAY. AND THEN IT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

BUT I YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION ALL PUT TOGETHER AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT.

BUT COMMISSIONER CONROY'S IDEA OF TEMPORARY USE PERMIT ETC.

AS A MECHANISM, IF IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.

BUT IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THAT IS AN OPTION.

[00:40:04]

SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO THESE THE MATERIALS, THE WRITTEN MATERIALS WILL BE MADE PUBLIC RECORD RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY WERE BLUE FOLDERED.

RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AND THEN THEY'LL BE PART OF THE.

RECEIVE AND FILED. YEAH. YEAH. WE RECEIVE IT.

THEY WILL BE. RECEIVED AND FILED. YEAH. AND IT'LL BE PART OF THE PACKET NEXT.

THAT WILL COME. EXACTLY. NEXT. NEXT MEETING. OKAY.

AND MORE THAN LIKELY JUST ON THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE SO FAR, THERE MAY BE OBVIOUSLY SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO HELP OUT.

AND AGAIN TO STAFF IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT YOU RECEIVED SO FAR.

I KNOW THERESA AND I ARE AVAILABLE JIM MUELLER.

YEAH, I'VE GOT THAT NOTE ON HERE. AND THEN YOU KNOW I MEAN, THE WILL THERE BE AN OFFICIAL SPEAKER ON THE SORT OF THE EFFORT AND SUCH? YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT, I GUESS, MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING AT THE NEXT MEETING. A PROPONENT. I GUESS IT IS AN APPLICANT. YEAH, I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY.

YEAH, AT SOME POINT THERE WOULD. YES. YEAH. SO WOULD THAT BE IN THIS NEXT MEETING? WE COULD DESIGNATE THAT IF IT'S IF WE'RE AT THAT POINT.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S AGENDIZED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SCULLY. ANYTHING ELSE? LET'S SEE. SO WE'RE STILL ON COUNCIL MEMBER ITEM OR COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.

[N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]

I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR PROVIDING THE SLIDE DECK.

OKAY. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, ANYWAY I DID RECEIVE IT ELECTRONICALLY, BUT OR I RECEIVED THE EMAIL WITH IT AS AN ATTACHMENT, BUT IT WOULD NOT DOWNLOAD. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

IT MUST HAVE GOT CORRUPTED. IS THAT WHY IT WAS PRINTED. PROBABLY. WHEN IT WAS CONVERTED. BECAUSE I WOULD JUST SAY I DON'T NEED PRINTED COPIES OF IT IF I'M RECEIVING IT ELECTRONICALLY. YEAH, SAVE THE PAPER. YEAH, I'M THE SAME WAY.

YEAH. WE HAVE A WHOLE. DIDN'T RECEIVE. IN THE FUTURE.

ASSUMING WE RECEIVE IT. YEAH. WE DON'T OFFER.

I KNOW I COULDN'T OPEN IT THROUGH ADOBE. YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE GREAT.

OH THEY SENT IT. YEAH. I CAN'T EVEN OPEN IT. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

PSYCH! SORRY. THROWING YOU UNDER THE BUS? YEAH.

MOTION TO ADJOURN. WELL, I HAD ACTUALLY ONE OTHER QUESTION.

QUESTION? IS I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A PROJECT COMING UP NEXT MONTH.

YOU MENTIONED BEFORE WE HAVE A IN NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA WE HAVE LIKE A LARGER, I GUESS, A MORE OF A MINISTERIAL PROJECT COMING IN A WAYS.

YEAH. IT'S YEAH, IT'S A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A LARGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.

GOTCHA. AND IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT ISN'T MINISTERIAL IS THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

SO WE'RE HAVING MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REALLY CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE OF THE COMMISSION ON THE PROJECT. IT'S INVOKING A NUMBER OF STATE HOUSING LAWS IN ORDER TO DO THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED. SO WE'LL HAVE IT ALL SPELLED OUT.

WE HAVE A BIG MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TOMORROW ABOUT IT.

AND THEN. YEAH, THAT THAT'LL BE A, YOU KNOW, AN INTERESTING MEETING.

I HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. SO BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE, IT'S IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

YES. AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS BEING IN THE COASTAL ZONE PARKING.

THAT'S PART OF THE AMBIGUITY IN THE STATE LAW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SO I CAN'T SAY MUCH MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE ARTICULATED FOR EVERYBODY WHAT ALL THESE STATE PROVISIONS ARE. AND THEY, THEY SUPERSEDE SOME.

WELL, THAT'S TOO STRONG OF A WORD. BUT THEY, ARE AN EQUAL STANDING WITH THE COASTAL ACT IN SOME RESPECTS.

AND, OTHERS ARE EXPLICIT IN DEFERRING TO THE COASTAL ACT AND OTHER AREAS THEY SUPERSEDE.

SO IT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UNTANGLING AND WE'LL HAVE THAT AND YOU'LL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW.

YEAH. THE COASTAL COMMISSION WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN HELPING US ON ANOTHER PROJECT WAS WHICH WAS ON THE WEST SIDE AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENTS THEY ACTUALLY WERE VERY HELPFUL.

[00:45:08]

PEARL. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO VACANT LOT THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE.

THAT'S USUALLY A CHRISTMAS LOT. SO IS CHRISTMAS LOT AND PUMPKIN PATCH.

WONDERFUL. YEAH. WAR ON CHRISTMAS. YEAH. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

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