[00:00:02] FOR THE CLOSED SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? [3:00 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING] YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. ABSENT. MAYOR LIGHT. PRESENT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. IS ANYONE ONLINE? THERE IS ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM, BUT WITH NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY. CAN YOU READ OFF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING? YES. AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE, AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. ITEM F.1 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND LABOR NEGOTIATOR. THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS ARE REDONDO BEACH POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND REDONDO BEACH POLICE MANAGEMENT UNIT. ITEMS F.2 AND F.3 ARE UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL. EXISTING LITIGATION. FOR F.2 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS NEEL KARIA VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ET AL. CASE NUMBER 25LB0V02925. FOR ITEM F.3 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ET AL. VERSUS CALIFORNIA STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD CASE NUMBER 20STCP03193. FOR ITEMS F.4 THROUGH F.7 ARE UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR. FOR F.4, THE PROPERTIES ARE 3007 VAIL AVENUE. A PORTION OF APN: 415-001-7931 PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF FELTON LANE AND 182ND STREET.. APN: 415-803-3900 715 JULIA AVENUE. PORTION OF PARCELS APN: 750-702-0900 AND APN: 750-702-1900 1935 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. APN: 404-900-8903 807 INGLEWOOD AVENUE. A PORTION OF APN: 408-302-4900 AND 200 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, A PORTION OF APN: 750-500-9902. FOR F.5 THE PROPERTIES ARE 239 AND 245 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE. PORTIONS OF APN: 7503-029-903 FOR F.6 THE PROPERTIES ARE PORTIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MARINA, PARKING LOT AND SEASIDE LAGOON PORTIONS OF APN #S: 7503-029-900 AND 7503-029-903. FOR F.7 THE PROPERTIES ARE 100 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK AND 130 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK. A PORTION OF APN: 7505-002-932, AND FOR ITEM EIGHT OR F.8, IT IS CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERSONNEL MATTERS/EVALUATION, AND THE TITLE IS CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL DONE FOR YOUR FIRST TIME. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY. WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE ITEMS? YES, MAYOR. FOR ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.7, WE WILL HAVE MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK. FOR ITEM F.1 WE WILL BE JOINED BY OUR OUTSIDE LABOR NEGOTIATOR, LAURA KALTY, AS WELL AS OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, DIANE STRICKFADEN, AND ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, JANE CHUNG. FOR ITEM F.4, WE WILL HAVE LUKE SMUDE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR ITEM F.5 AND FOR F.6 WE WILL BE JOINED BY GREG KAPOVICH AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES ITEM F.7. SO F.5 THROUGH F.7. WE WILL HAVE GREG KAPOVICH IN THE ROOM. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR ATTENDEES. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION? [F. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION] SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR IT. OKAY. IT'S THREE YESES AND ZERO NO'S. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. WE'LL BE BACK. WE'LL ACTUALLY COME OUT. TREE LIGHTING TODAY STARTS AT 4:30, AND THEN AT 6:00, WE WILL START THE OPEN SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND REPORT OUT ON ANYTHING FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. PRESENT. OKAY. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ANNOUNCE FROM CLOSED SESSION? NO ITEMS THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR OPEN SESSION? [00:05:03] SO MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MIKE. I'M SORRY. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY. DO WE NEED A REPORT? THE DEFENSE. MOTION TO DEFEND. YOU KNOW WHAT? UNDER ITEM. I GUESS THAT IS TRUE UNDER THE CASE LISTED IN ITEM F.2. THE KARIA CASE VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. THE COUNCIL DID UNANIMOUSLY AUTHORIZE THE ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT THE CITY IN THAT MATTER. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN TO THE REGULAR MEETING. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE THE VOTE. ALL FOR IT. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE OPEN SESSION. REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. [A. CALL TO ORDER] COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. I WAS ALSO PRESENT FOR CLOSED SESSION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NOT HERE FIRST ITEM. HERE. OKAY. COULD WE ALL RISE NOW FOR THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A SILENT MOMENT OF INVOCATION. AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A STUDENT TONIGHT, WOULD YOU MIND LEADING US TONIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. SURE. PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION. OKAY. PLEASE BE SEATED. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO ITEM D IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG. [D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS] PRESENTATIONS PROCLAMATIONS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. I DO NOT HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT OR PROCLAMATIONS, SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU. I WAS OFF. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE LAST WEEK WAS A BUSY WEEK. AMONG THE THINGS I DID WAS THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT VOLUNTEER LUNCH. I WENT TO THE CLEAN POWER ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING. WE HAVE TWO NEW CITIES AND WHICH BRINGS US TO 100% OF VENTURA COUNTY. WE APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO CONTINUE. AND SOME MORE THINGS THAT I CAN SUMMARIZE LATER, SINCE I DON'T HAVE ALL THAT THERE IN FRONT OF ME AT THE MOMENT. LAST WEEK, ALSO THE RIVIERA VILLAGE HOLIDAY STROLL. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE FINAL COUNT WAS 5,000 OR 6,000, BUT THERE WAS NO PARKING FOR BLOCKS. I RAN INTO MORE PEOPLE AFTER IT WAS LITERALLY CLOSED THAN I DID DURING IT, BECAUSE I COULD ACTUALLY SEE PEOPLE THERE. AND THEN THE SATURDAY I HAD FOUR DIFFERENT EVENTS THE ESPLANADE CLEANUP, RIBBON CUTTING AT NOW MASSAGE, WHICH IS A BLOCK FROM HERE. I GOT TO BE SANTA AT THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT'S LET IT SNOW EVENT THAT WAS VERY EXCITING FOR ME AT FIRST. BUT ON THE SANTA NOTE, THE SANTA'S SLEIGH IS HEADING THROUGH DISTRICT ONE WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY THIS WEEK. SO, DISTRICT ONE PEOPLE BE ON THE ALERT FOR THE SIRENS AND THE LIGHTS. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE WILL TELL US ABOUT THE KING HARBOR BOAT PARADE. AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE CONGRATULATIONS TO THE REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL. I BELIEVE IT'S THE BOYS CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, WHICH NOT ONLY DID REALLY WELL AT STATE, BUT WENT ON TO NATIONALS WHERE I BELIEVE THEY PLACED, I THINK IT WAS EIGHTH OVERALL OR EIGHTH OR 14TH OVERALL, FIRST IN CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I ALSO ATTENDED THE REDONDO BEACH PD LUNCHEON VOLUNTEER LUNCHEON LAST WEEK AND ALSO THE HOLIDAY STROLL. AND AGAIN I THINK LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, I RAN INTO MORE PEOPLE AFTER IT WAS OVER WHEN IT STARTED TO CLEAR OUT AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE PEOPLE. SO THAT WAS A GOOD SIGN FOR THAT. UPCOMING THIS SATURDAY, WE IN DISTRICT TWO, WE HAVE THE KING HARBOR HOLIDAY BOAT PARADE. THIS YEAR WE'VE EXPANDED IT IN ADDITION TO THE BOATS THAT START AT 5:30. DURING THE AFTERNOON, STARTING AT THE PIER, THERE'S A PIER CONCERT THAT STARTS AT 2:00. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PERFORMANCES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL BAND. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A HOLIDAY MARKET IN THE PARKING LOT BETWEEN R10 AND THE RIVIERA MEXICAN CANTINA. AND THEN TO WATCH THE PARADE, THERE'S A VIEWING AREA JUST OUTSIDE THE SURF CLUB, IN THE PARKING LOT BETWEEN THE SURF CLUB AND THE MEXICAN CANTINA, WHERE YOU CAN WATCH THE BOATS FROM THERE. SO IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. [00:10:02] WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SANTA AND BOUNCY HOUSE AS WELL. ALSO ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH, I'M GOING TO HAVE MY DECEMBER COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE LIBRARY ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM. AGAIN, 5:30 ON DECEMBER 18TH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. LIKE ALWAYS, THEY COVER IT ALL. SO I WANT TO THANK THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE ASSOCIATION. SANTA VISITED DISTRICT THREE EARLIER LAST WEEK AND IT WAS LOVELY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. THANK YOU TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING TOGETHER LET IT SNOW. THAT WAS AN AMAZING EVENT. THANK YOU TO THE MSOS WHO PARTICIPATED. KYLE LOFSTROM DID A GREAT JOB EMCEEING THAT. AND ALSO THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT HAD PERSONNEL DRESSED WITH THEIR BEAUTIFUL REDONDO BEACH LOGOS AND THEIR UNIFORMS HOSTING TABLES THERE. KIDS HAD A GREAT TIME. THE SNOW WAS FABULOUS. IN ADDITION, ON MONDAY I PHONED THE CITY ATTORNEY EARLY TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE METRO C LINE EXTENSION. SHE GOT IN CONTACT WITH OUR COUNCIL, GAVE ME A RESPONSE. I WENT TO THE MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AT THE SOUTH BAY CITIES OF GOVERNMENT COUNCIL AND ULTIMATELY, THE STEERING COMMITTEE ACTING AS THE BOARD DECIDED TO ENDORSE THE C LINE EXTENSION WITHOUT SELECTING A ROUTE, BUT NOTING THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHICH WAY TO ALIGN THE C LINE EXTENSION. SO THAT WAS MY MOTION, AND I'M HAPPY AT LEAST WE GOT THAT. GOT THAT ACROSS. AND THAT'S IT. THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DID WANT TO REPORT THAT I HAD THE HONOR AND PLEASURE OF REFEREEING THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH REGION 17 AYSO U14 GIRLS CHAMPIONSHIP GAME THIS WEEKEND. ULTIMATELY WON BY THE NEON BREAKERS. THIS INCREDIBLE EFFORT CLOSE GAME TIED, WENT TO OVERTIME, ULTIMATELY TO PENALTY KICKS. AND YEAH, WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE. YEAH, I GOT TO SAY, ONE PLAYER REALLY STOOD UP WAS THE STAR OF THE SHOW WHEN IT WAS TIME TO SCORE A GOAL. I GOT TO HAND IT TO NUMBER SEVEN, MARY KALUDEROVIC. [APPLAUSE] SO I'M GOING TO MAKE HER WATCH THIS. SHE'S GOING TO BE WILDLY EMBARRASSED. [LAUGHTER] SO. YEAH. AND THAT'S ALL MAYOR. OKAY THANK YOU. THAT REALLY DID MAKE MY WEEKEND. THANK YOU. SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAD A LOT GOING ON. I'LL TRY NOT TO REPEAT IF YOU MISSED IT. WE JUST HAD OUR OFFICIAL TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY FOR THE HOLIDAYS. I THINK PERSONALLY, THAT'S THE BEST ONE I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN WATCHING THEM, SO THAT WAS WELL DONE. IT WAS INTERESTING HOW TV AND LIVE TV CHANGED UP THE SCHEDULE LIVE, BUT WE ROLLED WITH THE PUNCHES. SO WELL DONE BY EVERYBODY. I HAD A ACTUALLY ON REQUEST, A SPECIAL MEETING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS AT THE SOUTH BAY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REGARDING THE JOINT HOUSING TRUST THAT'S COMING UP. I THINK THAT MAY BE A GOOD TOOL FOR US TO CONTINUE OUR PROGRAM AWARD WINNING PROGRAM ON HOMELESSNESS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR STATE SENATOR, BEN ALLEN AND OUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER, AL MURATSUCHI, ON SOME LEGISLATION TO GO THROUGH. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. I GOT TO WITNESS THE FIRST WATER RUNNING IN THE NEW PARK, I MEAN POND AND STREAM AT WILDERNESS PARK. CAN'T WAIT TO OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC. BUT WE WERE JUST IN TESTING MODE, SO THERE'S STILL PLANTS WE HAVE TO INSTALL, TESTS WE HAVE TO RUN AND ALL THAT. SO I ANTICIPATE HOPEFULLY BEFORE SPRING STARTS, THAT WE'LL HAVE A GRAND OPENING AND RIBBON CUTTING ON THAT. BUT IT LOOKS FANTASTIC. I THINK EVERYBODY WILL BE PLEASED. I HAD THE HONOR OF WATCHING WOMEN OF LOCKERBIE AT REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL THIS PAST WEEKEND. YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO THESE THINGS MY WIFE AND I GO TO THE AHMANSON FOR A SERIES OF PLAYS AND MUSICALS EVERY YEAR. BUT RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD, WE HAVE VERY TALENTED SCHOOL KIDS THAT JUST KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK, AND IT'S UNDER 15 BUCKS. SO IT'S A BARGAIN TO GO. AND IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO WATCH. THEY PLAYED WAY ABOVE THEIR LEAGUE. SO I REALLY ENJOYED THAT. I HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH A RESIDENT NAMED THERESA MITCHELL ON THE FARMER'S MARKET, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH A SOLUTION ON THAT. I HAVE MET WITH OUR WATER POLO FOLKS, THE GUYS WHO STAGED THE WATER POLO TOURNAMENT THIS YEAR. THEY FOUND A PROFESSIONAL OPERATOR WHOM I'M GOING TO MEET LATER IN THIS WEEK. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A FULL PROGRAM OF OPEN WATER WATER POLO IN OUR HARBOR NEXT SUMMER. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I'LL COVER TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GO INTO APPROVING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. [E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] [00:15:05] DOES ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL LIKE TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE, IF I MIGHT. MAYOR, THAT I DID RECEIVE SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT MOVING THE ORDER. BUT I THINK WE HAVE PEOPLE ON N1 AND N3. SO I'M GOING TO JUST KEEP IT AS IS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF COMMENT ON BOTH. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, AS IS. SECOND. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, SO WE WILL GO IN THE ORDER THAT IT'S PRINTED. WE HAVE NO AGENCY RECESSES TONIGHT. SO JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM G BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. [G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING? YES. MAYOR THREE TONIGHT FOR J.1 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. FOR ITEM N.1. THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN. PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND FOR N.3. THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PRACTICES AND POLICIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY. WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WITH THAT, WE'LL JUMP DOWN TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM H FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FOLLOWING ALONG. [H. CONSENT CALENDAR] WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.6. NOPE. NOPE. NO. COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR H.1 THROUGH H.6? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE WOULD ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.6 ON THE AGENDA? OKAY, SEEING NO ONE. IS ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THESE. WE DO HAVE TWO HANDS RAISED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. YOU CAN CHECK, OH ONE WENT DOWN. MARCI GUILLERMO, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ARE YOU THERE, MARCI? YES. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON H.1? ONE OF THE ONES FROM H.1 TO H.6? YES, H.6. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS ABOUT H.6. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE FUNDS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO RECEIVE BE ALLOCATED FOR DISTRICT ONE. THAT'S MY REQUEST. AND THAT'S THE REQUEST THAT MANY RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT ONE WE NEED TO INVEST IN OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I NO OTHER HANDS RAISED AND NO ECOMMENTS FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY, I'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. H.1 THROUGH H.6 PASSES. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO READ OUT OF THAT? TWO RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT, MAYOR. H.4 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY. RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2512-099 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING A LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM AND H.6 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2512-098 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, SUMMARILY VACATING AN EASEMENT FOR STREET AND HIGHWAY PURPOSES. LOCATED AT 422 SOUTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI YOU WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK ONE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WINJE FOR H.5. THEY ARE. WE'RE GOING TO BE REPAVING GRANT AVENUE, AND THEY'RE USING A CONTRACTOR. WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS FOR ARTESIA BOULEVARD. USE THEIR SERVICES ON GRANT TO GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND GOOD PRICING. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM I, WE HAVE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SO WE'LL BE JUMPING DOWN TO J THAT'S PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. [J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION. AND BASED ON A LITTLE TRANSGRESSION WE HAD LAST WEEK, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE STRICTLY ENFORCE THE THREE MINUTE RULE, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE WHEN WE CUT YOU OFF AT THREE MINUTES AND WE EXPECT YOU TO COMPLY. AND ALSO, AS FAR AS CHEERING OR BOOING, WE DON'T WANT THOSE KIND OF OUTBURSTS. YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU SUPPORT SOMETHING AND THUMBS DOWN IF YOU DON'T. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN DOING THAT. WITH THAT I DO HAVE WRITTEN CARDS. FIRST IS BRIAN DAY AND THEN LAUREN. LAUREN AVALLONE. OH. I'M SORRY. ONE OTHER THING. I DON'T THINK I READ IT. [00:20:01] THERE IS A 30 MINUTE CAP TOTAL ON ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. SIR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. COUNCIL, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY AND THE CITIZENS OF REDONDO BEACH. MY NAME IS BRIAN DAY. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THEM NOT JUST AS EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, BUT AS RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS, PARENTS, COACHES, VOLUNTEERS AND PEOPLE WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. TONIGHT, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU QUICKLY ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT REDONDO BEACH POLICE OFFICERS DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT. SO HERE'S A COUPLE OF QUICK FACTS. BETWEEN 2022 AND 2024, YOUR OFFICERS RESPONDED TO AN AVERAGE OF AROUND 62,000 CALLS PER YEAR OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE CITY OF TORRANCE, COMPARATIVELY, THAT'S FOUR TIMES OUR SIZE IN LANDMASS, DOUBLE OUR POPULATION AND DOUBLE OUR POLICE STAFFING. RESPONDED TO AN AVERAGE OF ONLY AROUND 47,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE PER YEAR OVER THAT SAME PERIOD, A DIFFERENCE OF NEARLY 15,000 CALLS. LET THAT SINK IN. THIS YEAR, OUR OFFICERS HAVE SEIZED OVER 120 GUNS IN THE CITY. IN A CITY THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO DESCRIBE AS QUIET OR SLEEPY WE'RE OUT THERE FACING DANGER EVERY DAY, AND WE'RE TAKING ARMED CRIMINALS OFF THE STREETS. THOSE GUNS THAT WE TOOK OFF, THOSE CRIMINALS THERE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE IN THE CARS DRIVING NEXT TO YOU ON PCH, ON ARTESIA. THEY'RE IN THE POCKETS OF PEOPLE WALKING PAST YOU ON THE PIER WHILE YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE ON THE BIKE PATH. THE SAFETY THAT'S PROVIDED TO THIS CITY DOESN'T COME MAGICALLY. IT COMES BECAUSE OUR OFFICERS DO THE WORK. THEY SHOW UP DAYS, NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, RAIN OR SHINE, READY TO PROTECT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. DESPITE CONSISTENTLY SHOWING UP, WORKING HARD AND OUTPERFORMING OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES. HERE'S WHY OUR OFFICERS STAND 10TH OUT OF TEN IN TOTAL COMPENSATION, NOT SLIGHTLY BELOW THE AVERAGE, NOT HOVERING AROUND THE MIDDLE. SIMPLY PUT, LAST PLACE. THIS ISN'T A SALARY SURVEY OF TEN CITIES THAT YOU, THE CITY, CHOSE FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES, THE CITY'S BENCHMARK, THE CITY'S DATA. YOU GUYS WERE SHOCKED BY THE NUMBERS WHEN YOU SAW THEM AND HAVE NOW SINCE CHOSEN TO IGNORE THEM. MEANWHILE, OUR OFFICERS, THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PUT ON THE UNIFORM, WHO ANSWER THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHO RUN TOWARDS DANGER TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. THEY'RE BEING TOLD, WE UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE PAID UNDER THE MARKET, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY YOU TO GET TO MEDIAN. THIS ISN'T A NEW PROBLEM. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP OVERNIGHT OR IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN LAST PLACE AND THAT WE'VE FALLEN BEHIND OUR COMPARISON CITIES, IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN THE RESULT OF YEARS OF THE CITY CHOOSING OTHER PRIORITIES INSTEAD OF TAKING CARE OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROTECT THIS CITY. OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE BRING OUR REDONDO BEACH POLICE OFFICERS PAY TO THE MEDIAN OF THE TEN CITIES THAT YOU YOURSELF CHOSE. NOT THE TOP, NOT ABOVE AVERAGE, JUST THE MEDIAN. OUR OFFICERS HAVE SHOWN UP FOR YEARS AND DELIVERED FOR THE CITY. AND NOW IS THE TIME. WE'RE ASKING THIS COUNCIL, THIS MAYOR, THIS CITY MANAGER TO SHOW UP AND DELIVER FOR THEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. OKAY. LAUREN AVALLONE. AND THEN JENNA EAST. HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO READ OFF MY PHONE, I APOLOGIZE. MY NAME IS LAUREN AVALLONE. I'M A DETECTIVE WITH THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO A MEDAL OF VALOR RECIPIENT. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE ACTIVE SHOOTER ON THE PIER IN AUGUST OF 2021. I WAS ONE OF THE FOUR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT NIGHT TO RUN TOWARDS THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE, WHILE OTHERS WERE FLEEING FOR SAFETY. SEPTEMBER OF 2025 MARKED MY 10TH YEAR SERVING WITH THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IN TOTAL, I HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH FOR 13 YEARS. I BEGAN MY PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER WITH THIS COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS JUST 18 YEARS OLD. I'M 31 NOW. PRIOR TO JOINING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WORKED AS AN EMT RESPONDING TO CALLS WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE, I KNEW I WANTED MY LIFE'S WORK TO BE HERE SERVING THE PEOPLE OF REDONDO BEACH. BECOMING AN OFFICER FOR THE CITY HAS BEEN ONE OF MY PROUDEST AND MOST MEANINGFUL ACCOMPLISHMENTS. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE MY NEXT WORDS AS A THREAT. THEY ARE A PLEA. I NOW HAVE A FAMILY AND DESPITE MY DEDICATION TO THIS CITY, I CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE VERY COMMUNITY I SERVE OR PAY FOR CHILD CARE LOCAL TO MY WORKPLACE. IN ADDITION TO MY TEN HOUR SHIFTS, I COMMUTE THREE HOURS ROUND TRIP EVERY DAY. THAT IS PRECIOUS TIME. TIME I COULD BE SPENDING WITH MY CHILDREN AND MY HUSBAND THAT I SACRIFICED BECAUSE OF WHAT THE CITY MEANS TO ME. OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE MISSED HOLIDAYS, BIRTHDAYS AND MOMENTS I CAN NEVER GET BACK ALL SO I COULD BE HERE WHEN THIS COMMUNITY NEEDED ME, AND I DO IT BECAUSE I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. ALL I ASK IS THAT THE SAME VALUE AND COMMITMENT WE PLACE ON THIS CITY BE REFLECTED BACK TO US, THE LOYAL PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO GIVE SO MUCH OF OUR LIVES TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE AND SUPPORTED. [00:25:02] PLEASE DO NOT FORCE US TO LOOK ELSEWHERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. LET'S SEE JENNA EAST AND THEN HOLLY OSBORN. HELLO, MY NAME IS JENNA EAST. I'M A RESIDENT OF SOUTH REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS. I'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE PLIGHT OF OUR OFFICERS IN RECENT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND AM ABREAST OF THE REASONABLE ASKS PROPOSED TO THE CITY TO HAVE COMMENSURATE PAY WITH OUR NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS. I FOUND IT DISCONCERTING THAT CITY RESPONSES HAVE PALED IN COMPARISON TO THE BENEFITS AND PAY THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE RECEIVING AT THIS TIME. AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND YOUNG MOTHER, THIS IS EXTREMELY DISHEARTENING BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING I PRIORITIZE MORE THAN SAFETY, NAMELY WITH OUR CITY POLICE FACILITATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ENSURES THAT SAFETY. DUE TO ACTIVE POLICING AND LEGACY OF RPD, I CAN WALK FREELY IN MY COMMUNITY, AND I CAN TAKE MY CHILDREN TO THE PARK WITHOUT BEING AFRAID, AND KNOW THAT IF I WERE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY, THEY WOULD RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER. THESE LUXURIES ARE SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARDED, AND AN ISSUE THAT I EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I USED TO LIVE IN. FOR INSTANCE, IN MY PREVIOUS CITY, I WAS STRUCK BY A DRUNK DRIVER AND NO OFFICERS ARRIVED BECAUSE NO ONE WAS HURT AND IT WASN'T A PRIORITY. OR WHEN MY HOUSE WAS ROBBED AND NO OFFICERS SHOWED FOR THREE HOURS BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PRIORITY. OR WHEN MY LANDLORD'S HOUSE WAS BURGLARIZED WHILE SHE WAS INSIDE IT. AND NO OFFICERS ARRIVED FOR 20 MINUTES AND SHE WAS LOCKED IN HER BATHROOM BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PRIORITY RIGHT AWAY. YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE THAT THESE OCCURRENCES ARE SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THIS CITY, BUT LET ME TELL YOU, WHEN YOU DON'T PRIORITIZE YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, THEY DON'T PRIORITIZE YOU. IT SCARES ME TO THINK THAT REDONDO BEACH MAY NOT ATTRACT QUALITY OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE COMPETITIVE PAY. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT, A TOP PRIORITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS. WE WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE HIGH QUALITY POLICING, ACTIVE POLICING AND SHORT RESPONSE TIMES. ALL THESE PILLARS OF RPD WILL DWINDLE AWAY IF OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT COMPENSATED APPROPRIATELY. AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS COMMUNITY, I URGE YOU TO STRONGLY RECONSIDER HOW THE CITY BUDGET PRIORITIZES ITS OFFICERS AND HOW YOU PORTRAY THAT IN YOUR FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS. AND NO, IF YOU DON'T PRIORITIZE THEM, WE IN THE COMMUNITY WILL, AND WE WILL STAND BESIDE THEM AND PICKET WITH THEM IF NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD AND THEIR EFFORTS ARE VALUED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOLLY OSBORNE AND THEN JASMINE ALLEN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, HOLLY OSBORNE. AND MY SPEECH CAME ARRIVED A LITTLE LATE. CITY CLERK SAYS YOU'LL GET IT TOMORROW. SO TONIGHT YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME. OKAY, SO I'M FROM DISTRICT FIVE AND HOLLY OSBORNE, AND YESTERDAY I GAVE THE FIRST PART OF THE SPEECH AT THE COG MEETING. IT'S ABOUT THE ROW. IT'S THE FREIGHT TRAIN RIGHT OF WAY. AND THE PROBLEMS THAT CITIES WOULD FACE IF TWO LRT TRACKS WERE ADDED TO THE FREIGHT TRACK. YESTERDAY, THE SPEECH CONCENTRATED ON LAWNDALE. TODAY I'M GOING TO REPEAT THE LAWNDALE PORTION, WHICH SOME OF YOU, IF YOU'RE ON THE COG YOU'VE SEEN, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF REDONDO ON THE ARTESIA TO GRANT SECTION. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO RAIL OPTIONS FOR THE GREEN LINE. THE ROW AND THEN TWO IS ELEVATED ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD. THE GREEN LINE OPTION WAS SELECTED BY THE METRO BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN MAY 2024, DESPITE IT NOT BEING THE PREFERRED OPTION BY THE CITY'S MOST AFFECTED, INCLUDING REDONDO. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD EXCEPT BY DIRECTOR BUTTS, SUPERVISOR HOLLY MITCHELL, AND SOME EARLIER REMARKS BY DIRECTOR DUPONT- WALKER. I DO NOT BELIEVE I EVER HEARD ONE OTHER WORD FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER IN JUNE AND JULY 2024, WHEN THE DIRECTORS WERE TALKING ABOUT OTHER METRO PROJECTS AT OTHER PMP MEETINGS, THERE WAS SUDDENLY MUCH TALK ABOUT COMMUNITIES THAT HAD BEEN REDLINED IN THE PAST AND HAD LOST ECONOMIC GROUND TO THIS DAY BECAUSE OF IT. THE METRO BOARD STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT MAKE FUTURE DECISIONS ON SUCH AFFECTED AREAS THAT WOULD FURTHER NEGATIVELY AFFECT THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND COLOR CODING WAS USED. RED MEANT YOU WERE YOU DIDN'T WANT, THE BANKS DIDN'T WANT TO LOAN TO YOU. [00:30:07] I TOOK NOTE AND IMMEDIATELY SEARCHED FOR A MAP TOOL THAT DENOTED WHICH COMMUNITIES WERE REDLINED WHEN THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE IN 1939, LAWNDALE WAS SOLID RED. I PRESENTED. OKAY, SO THERE'S TWO. BOTH OPTIONS DO GO THROUGH THESE RED SPACE. BUT THE CITY OF LAWNDALE SAYS THE ONE THAT GOES ON HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD WOULD DO LESS DAMAGE TO IT. AND NOW OTHER CITIES IN THE SOUTH BAY WERE RED AS WELL, SUCH AS HERMOSA AND MUCH OF REDONDO. HOWEVER, THOSE CITIES HAVE SINCE RECOVERED ECONOMICALLY. TO BE CONSIDERED DISADVANTAGED, THE CITY HAS TO BE RANKED WORSE THAN OTHER CITIES IN SOME COMBINATIONS OF INCOME LACK OF GREEN SPACE, LACK OF ENGLISH, AND SO FORTH. MORE SEARCHING ON MY PART REDUCED A TOOL CALLED THE CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE SCREENING TOOL. AND SO HERE BLUE MEANS YOU'RE DISADVANTAGED. LAWNDALE IS CIRCLED THERE. THE FIRST DISADVANTAGED CITY AS YOU COME EAST FROM THE COAST. NATURALLY, THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT IT. DOES THAT SOUND HISTORICAL OR WHAT? OKAY, NOW THE BLUES DISADVANTAGED. WE'RE NOT BLUE. THAT'S WHY THOSE RED LINE ARGUMENTS DON'T APPLY TO US. SHE'LL GET THEM TOMORROW. YOUR TIME'S UP. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. JASMINE ALLEN AND THEN JIM MUELLER. GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JASMINE ALLEN. THIS EVENING, THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION HAD INTENDED FOR ME TO READ THIS LETTER ON THEIR BEHALF. HOWEVER, DUE TO POLITICAL TECHNICALITIES, I WILL BE READING THE LETTER SOLELY ON MY OWN BEHALF. THE GOAL IS TO PROMOTE FISCAL TRANSPARENCY, STRENGTHEN ACCOUNTABILITY, AND ENSURE THAT BOTH THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC HAVE TIMELY AND ACCURATE INSIGHT INTO THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION. WHILE THE COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY AS VOLUNTEERS, THEIR AUTHORITY IS LIMITED. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT MAINTAIN DIRECT AND REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH SUCH INTERACTIONS ALSO BEING VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. THAT'S WHY CITY'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT SHOULD PROVIDE QUARTERLY BUDGET UPDATES DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL. AND SECONDLY, THE CITY IS ADVISED TO ADOPT A FORMAL RESERVES POLICY. DURING 2025-26 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET CYCLE THE CITY FACED A SIGNIFICANT SHORTFALL. THIS UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR EARLIER IDENTIFICATION OF FISCAL CHALLENGES AND PROACTIVE MONITORING, WHICH IS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE INDUSTRY, AS A REMINDER THAT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PROFIT MARGINS OR SOURCING THE NEXT REVENUE STREAM. TAXPAYER MONEY OR FUNDS SIMPLY CONTINUE TO FLOW IN. THE DEPARTMENT'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO TRACK THESE FUNDS ACCURATELY AND REPORT ON THEM. THE QUARTERLY UPDATES TO COUNCIL SHOULD INCLUDE COMPARISON OF BUDGETED VERSUS ACTUAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FUNDS, GENERAL FUND, ENTERPRISE FUND, EXPENDITURES FOR EACH DEPARTMENT, COMPARED TO BUDGETED PROGRAM MODIFICATIONS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING SAVINGS, TREND ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY EMERGING CONCERNS OR OPPORTUNITIES. UPDATED YEAR END PROJECTIONS REFLECTING CURRENT TRENDS AND ADJUSTMENTS. PRELIMINARY FORECASTS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO SUPPORT LONG TERM PLANNING. USE OF STANDARDIZED, CITY APPROVED PRESENTATION TEMPLATES WITH CONSISTENT FORMATTING, INCLUDING UNIFORM UNITS. DELIVERY OF OBJECTIVE, DATA DRIVEN INFORMATION WITH CLEAR EXPLANATIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE INDUSTRY. THESE UPDATES WILL ENSURE THIS COUNCIL REMAINS FULLY INFORMED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND MAKE TIMELY, WELL INFORMED POLICY DECISIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. JIM MUELLER AND THEN MIKE SHIELDS THE SECOND. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL JIM MUELLER, DISTRICT FIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HIS SUPPORT OF OUR EFFORT TO ESTABLISH A FARMER'S MARKET ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND AS A STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT DISTRICT THERE. AND HE'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE WITH OUR PERSON, THERESA MITCHELL, WHO'S DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB OF ANALYZING THE DATA AND COMING [00:35:10] UP WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING, EVERY VARIABLE YOU COULD IMAGINE COMING UP WITH DATA TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE POSITIVE COMMUNITY RESPONSE CONTINUES TO FLOW IN. WE HAVE A CHANGE.ORG PETITION UP THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. IT NOW HAS 750 SIGNATURES ON IT, AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT THEIR NAMES ON IT. ALSO THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND THE NEXT DOOR PAGES ALL HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT. THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE THING SAID AGAINST HAVING A FARMER'S MARKET THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR EFFORTS. AND THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND FROM THERESA THAT YOU'RE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE AND SHE, LIKE YOU SAID, SHE'S DONE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK PUTTING THOSE SPREADSHEETS TOGETHER. SO THANKS FOR HELPING MOVE THAT FORWARD. SHE'S A VERY VALUABLE CITIZEN. YES. OKAY. MIKE SHIELDS A SECOND AND THEN NICKY NEGRETE MITCHELL. OH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. LAST TIME JIM FOLLOWED ME. THIS TIME I GET TO FOLLOW HIM. I'M HERE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR A FILM COMMISSIONER FOR THIS CITY THAT I HAVE LIVED IN FOR OVER 31 YEARS NOW. FORMALLY THERE IS FILM LA, BUT THEY ONLY REALLY DO THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES. THAT'S HOW YOU GET A PERMIT THAT WAY. I SPOKE TO MR. CASTLE BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT, AND HE STATED THAT IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET FROM POINT A, THE REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL SITE TO FINDING THE FILM PERMIT THAT YOU FILL OUT TO SHOOT IN THIS CITY. NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL SOUTH BAY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO FILM AND TV. I'M A MEMBER OF ONE OF THEM. THERE'S A FACEBOOK GROUP, SOUTH BAY FILMMAKERS. AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY FORMAL METHOD TO DECIDE TO SHOOT IN OUR CITY. WE NEED A FILM COMMISSIONER. THE CITY MANAGER HAS OTHER DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE CARE OF WITH THE DEDICATED OFFICE. WE COULD SPEND 100% OF THAT TIME AND THE RESULTING MONEY COMING IN TO HYPE THE CITY. NOW, RECENTLY, THERE WAS A $750 MILLION SUBSIDY PASSED FOR FILMING IN CALIFORNIA. I SAY WE GET ALL OF THAT FOR THIS CITY. OKAY. I GOT TO CHUCKLE. I'M GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY, THE POINT BEING THAT THERE IS MONEY OUT THERE THAT WE CAN BRING HERE. WE CAN BUILD THE CITY UP INTERNALLY BY SIMPLY SAYING WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS TO HOLLYWOOD. A SHORT ONE HOUR TRIP UP. LET'S SEE. HAWTHORNE BECOMES LA BREA. YOU GET TO FRANKLIN, YOU TURN RIGHT, YOU DRIVE BY THE MAGIC CASTLE ON THE LEFT, WHICH I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR OVER 30 YEARS. ACTUALLY, MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS. ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY, THAT'S ABOUT IT. I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOURS. THANK YOU SIR. WOULD YOU MIND EMAILING ME YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AT JAMES.LIGHT@REDONDO. ORG. THANK YOU. SEASONS GREETINGS. HEY. NIKKI MITCHELL, AND FOSTER. DISTRICT THREE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER CASTLE FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR THE COME TOGETHER MARKET TO BE A PART OF THE BOAT PARADE FESTIVITIES. THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE SO FUN. I'M A PARTICIPANT. I'M A VENDOR. AND THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI FOR REPRESENTING US SO WELL AT THE COG. APPRECIATE IT. AND I'VE SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT THE COMMON SENSE ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY DUE TO THE SEVEN GAS LINES BEHIND OUR HOMES, THE FUEL, FREIGHT AND THE REFINERY. AND THE FIRST RED FLAG ON THE DRAFT, EIR WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY OUR RESIDENT BNSF ENGINEER, AND IT WAS THE HAZARDOUS ROUTE SOUTH OF 190TH STREET TAKING PASSENGERS THROUGH THAT RAIL YARD AND UNDER THE BRIDGE. WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THAT FROM GAS PERSONNEL AND REFINERY EMPLOYEES AND CONTRACTORS. THEY ALL SAY THE SAME THING THAT THE FUEL CORRIDOR CAN'T RUN HUMAN RIDERS. OUR STAKEHOLDER CONCERNS HAVE BEEN VALIDATED BY LETTERS FROM THE TORRANCE REFINERY AND PIPELINE OWNERS. [00:40:03] AND THOSE WERE FOUND BURIED IN THE DRAFT EIR. AMONG ALL THAT YOU KNOW THE FORM LETTERS GENERATED BY TORRANCE THOSE ARE THE MOST CRITICAL DOCUMENTS. AND THEN METRO'S FDIR RESPONSES TO THOSE WHERE OUR REPETITIVE WORD SALAD, SPRINKLED WITH MENTIONS OF MINIMAL TWEAKS THAT DO NOT LESSEN SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. THE REFINERY HAS MAJOR OBJECTIONS AND AS DO THE PIPELINE COMPANIES. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CRENSHAW LINE. IT'S THE NORTHERN EXTENSION OF THE C LINE. SO THEY HAD AN ABNORMALLY LOW RATE OF SYSTEMS TESTING SUCCESSFULLY. THE TWO YEAR DELAY WAS DUE TO CONSTRUCTION ERRORS, AND THERE WAS SETTLING ON SUPPORTING WALLS OF A RAIL BRIDGE AND IN A FEW HUNDRED LOCATIONS ALONG THE LINE THEY HAD TO REINSTALL INCORRECTLY INSTALLED REBARS, AND SO THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND DO ALL OF THAT. AND OTHER DELAYS WERE DUE TO CHALLENGES WITH ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, SIDEWALKS AND GAS LINES. ELECTRICAL WORK TOOK LONGER THAN EXPECTED AND THERE WERE CHALLENGES ON CHANGING THE DESIGN SCHEDULE. SO THE PROCESS OF RELOCATING UTILITIES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE GAS LINES, IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS PRESENTED BY METRO AND TYPICALLY FACE CHALLENGES. THERE ARE NO OTHER METRO PROJECTS WITH THE SHEER VOLUME OF HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINES AND FUEL FREIGHT TANKERS. JUST ONE MISTAKE BY AN AGENCY WITH A ROBUST HISTORY OF MISTAKES CAN BE CATASTROPHIC. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THOSE POINTS. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. ERIKA FOSTER AND THEN JOAN IRVINE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR LIGHT AND PAIGE KALUDEROVIC FOR ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES TO MY EMAILS ALL THE TIME. MY CONCERN TODAY IS WITH THE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEIR ACTION FOR THE SHORTFALL FOR THE SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM. DURING MY RESEARCH THIS WEEK, I FOUND ON THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY DIRECTOR'S ASSOCIATION, THERE ARE THREE BLOCK GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE DEADLINES OF DECEMBER 29TH, DECEMBER 31ST AND JANUARY 12TH THAT THEY WILL NEED THAT AGENCY PLAN TO BE COMPLETED BEFOREHAND TO APPLY FOR THAT FUNDING THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE SHORTFALL. IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR INCREASING EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC STABILITY FOR THE PARTICIPANTS, BUILDING EARNINGS AND PROGRESS TOWARDS LONG TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY AND INCLUDING SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAMS TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF SECTION EIGHT AND PUT TIME LIMITS IN PLACE FOR HOW LONG YOU CAN BE ON THAT PROGRAM. THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS OF THESE PROGRAMS TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT FUNDING, POTENTIALLY ALLOTTING FUNDS TO AVOID SHORTFALL, GET PARTICIPANTS ON THE ROAD TO FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE, AND FREE UP VOUCHERS FOR PEOPLE ON THE EXISTING LIST TO ACHIEVE THE COUNCIL'S GOAL OF CLEARING THE LIST AS IS. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHORTFALL FUNDING IS ALSO COMPETITIVE AND DEPENDENT ON COMPLIANCE OF IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND AGENCY PLANS. AND THE LONGER THE DELAY IS, THE LONGER THE DELAY IS, THE LESS LIKELY THEY ARE TO RECEIVE THE SHORTFALL FUNDING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO. THERE WAS NO DEADLINE GIVEN WHEN THEY WERE HERE. THEY SAID OUR NEXT MEETING IS IN MARCH. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR FUNDING IN APRIL. THERE ARE ALSO TIME LIMITS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE BILLS CURRENTLY BEFORE CONGRESS. AND ADDING THOSE TO THE CURRENT PLAN PREEMPTIVELY WOULD PUT THE PHA IN A POSITION OF COMPLIANCE AHEAD OF THE CHANGE, RATHER THAN BEING BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. THIS TIME. IMELDA DELGADO HAS NOT CONTACTED ME, EVEN THOUGH SHE REQUESTED THAT SHE CONTACT ME LAST WEEK WHILE WE WERE HERE. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A PHONE CALL OR ANY CONTACT FROM ANYONE AT THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY. ANDREW, WHO I WAS TOLD IS IN CHARGE OF THE EHV'S, HAS BEEN CC'D ON ALL OF MY EMAILS AND HAS NOT CONTACTED ME AT ALL. ROBIN WAS HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE, BUT THIS IS NOT HER DEPARTMENT. I SIGNED THE RELEASE THAT SHE ASKED ME TO SIGN TO HAVE A HOUSING NAVIGATOR HAVE ACCESS TO MY INFORMATION AND AUTHORITY TO ACT ON MY BEHALF, AND I STILL DO NOT KNOW THEIR NAME, WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY DO AND HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED BY THIS PERSON. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT GOES THROUGH THE HARBOR INTERFAITH OR IF THAT GOES THROUGH THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING ON THEIR BEHALF. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN TRY TO GET THEM TO REACH OUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. JOAN IRVINE. AND THEN THE LAST CARD I HAVE IS WAYNE CRAIG. JOAN IRVINE. DISTRICT ONE. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF AND PEOPLE WERE HERE. [00:45:05] LAST WEEK WE DISCUSSED THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT CANNABIS DISPENSARIES IN REDONDO BEACH. AND THERE WAS I FOUND OUT INFORMATION AFTERWARDS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE RESULTS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WELL, I'M REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CANNABIS AND THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A CURRENT STORE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO BE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING PUBLIC WITH THE QUESTIONS. IF WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING IN AN ELECTION, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW WHAT'S BEING DONE. AND WHAT WAS MOST UPSETTING TO ME WAS I FOUND OUT THAT ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO REVIEWED THE SURVEY WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER I TALKED TO IN MARCH, WHO DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THC AND CBD. ALSO, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANYBODY FROM THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY WAS ASKED ABOUT THIS SURVEY AND HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE ANY INPUT. ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ALL SET IN MARCH, WE HAD REGULATIONS THAT WE HAD WORKED ON FOR YEARS IN THE CITY AND SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT, AND IT GOT STOPPED BY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THEY GOT THE PARENTS RALLYING AGAINST IT. BUT I MUST TELL YOU THAT THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE DURING THE MAYORAL ELECTION EARLIER THIS YEAR TOLD ME THAT THEY COULD GUARANTEE ME THE PTA VOTE IF I CHANGED MY CANNABIS POSITION. THE PTA IS A 501(C), IT CANNOT TAKE POLITICAL POSITIONS AND THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS. AND THE GROUP WASN'T EVEN OFFICIALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PTA. AND SO IT'S REALLY CONCERNING THAT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT. AND SO I CAN GO ON AND ON. BUT BASICALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SURVEYED, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GO TO A DISPENSARY. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU LEARN ABOUT IT ON YOUR OWN. AND I'M HERE TO OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. I CAN DO SMALL SALONS OR WORKSHOPS. SOME OF THE DISPENSARIES AROUND THE AREA THAT I THINK ARE NICE DISPENSARIES ARE WILLING TO BE DOING OPEN HOUSES. SO PLEASE CONTACT ME AT JOANDRHAOANI@AOL.COM OR GO TO MY FACEBOOK PAGE JOAN IRVINE AND TAKE A LOOK AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO BE WORKING WITH YOU SO THAT WE HAVE AN EDUCATED DECISION THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR CITY FOR THE NEXT DECADE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WAYNE CRAIG. AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE, AND WE WILL LIKELY RUN OUT OF TIME BY THEN. THAT WILL LIKELY TRIGGER THE 30 MINUTE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TIME WAYNE'S TAKING TO GET UP HERE [LAUGHTER]. NICE SWEATER. HOW MANY BAD KNEES IN TIGHT SEATING OVER THERE? [LAUGHTER] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M WAYNE CRAIG I'M REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT, NATIVE AND RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. TONIGHT'S HOLIDAY PRESENTATION WAS GREAT. I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE. ONCE THE SEASON ENDS, WE NEED TO LOOK HONESTLY ABOUT HOW GOOD OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE DOING. MANY ACTUALLY ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM COVID, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ESPECIALLY IN RIVIERA VILLAGE WHERE OUTDOOR DINING HAS HELPED. BUT CHALLENGES STILL REMAIN. FOR YEARS, THE CITY SUPPORTED THESE BUSINESSES IN RIVIERA VILLAGE BY OFFERING FREE HOLIDAY PARKING. THAT TRADITION HELPED DRIVE VISITORS AND REVENUE. RECENTLY, THE CITY CHOSE TO ALMOST END THAT PRACTICE. EVEN THOUGH BUSINESSES IN THE VILLAGE ARE STILL CONTRIBUTING HEAVILY TO CITY REVENUE, AND HAVE EVEN AGREED TO PAY HIGHER FEES TO THE RIVIERA BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO WELL IN THE CITY OF REDONDO. NOW, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING. IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT ON THE BACK PAGE OF THE EASY READER, PRINTED ON NOVEMBER 27TH. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CITIES, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, MANHATTAN BEACH AND THE Z CONTINUE TO OFFER FREE HOLIDAY PARKING BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND IT HAS VALUE. IN THIS CASE, IT'S FROM NOVEMBER 28TH TO DECEMBER 26TH. THAT'S ALMOST 28 DAYS. NOW, REDONDO BEACH, ON THE OTHER HAND, DOESN'T DO NEARLY THAT MUCH. WHAT IS IT LIKE EIGHT, TEN DAYS? I THINK OF THE MOST IF WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OUR NEIGHBORS LIKE WE DO WHEN WE ARE RAISING OUR PARKING FEES AND OTHER FEES, WE SHOULD ALSO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD WHEN THEY SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER REINSTATING FREE HOLIDAY PARKING IN THE VILLAGE BEFORE THE SEASON GETS TOO FAR ALONG. A SIMPLE ACTION BY THE CITY NOW CAN MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. PLEASE ACT NOW BEFORE WE MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE. [LAUGHTER]. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT FAST. SOME RAISE THEIR HAND SOME RAN UP [LAUGHTER]. JUST GOT TO DO IT. GEORGETTE GANTNER DISTRICT TWO. HELLO TO EVERYONE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING WHATEVER YOU KNOW, [00:50:05] YOU HAD TO DO WITH THE SIGN ON CATALINA OR THE BUILDING, THE MURAL ON CATALINA AVENUE. I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, SO MANY YEARS. AND WE TRIED TO GET THAT THROUGH, AND THERE WERE MANY ISSUES, AND I AND I JUST HAPPENED TO DRIVE BY YESTERDAY. AND THE AMOUNT OF PROTECTION AND THE CORDONING OFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DECIDED ARE PUBLIC WORKS IS EXCELLENT. AND I HONKED AT THE GUYS AND I DID THIS AND THEY WERE EXCITED. THE ARTISTS. ANYWAY. IT FELL OFF AND. [LAUGHTER] YEAH, AND THEN THEY FELL OFF AND THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT NOW I HAVE TO BE SUED. BUT IT'S WONDERFUL. IT'S SHAPING UP AND IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT BLANK WALL FINALLY GETTING ENHANCED BY SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL. AND THE OTHER THING, WHAT ELSE WAS I GOING TO SAY? OH, THE RIVIERA VILLAGE FESTIVAL. I DON'T KNOW WHO RAMP THAT UP. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALLEN SANFORD AS MR. FESTIVAL. I DON'T KNOW IF HE DID IT OR WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE, BUT IT WAS WONDERFUL. I MEAN, IT WAS FANTASTIC. SO GOOD JOB. WAS IT BUSY? WAS IT BUSY? OH MY GOSH. YEAH. WAS THERE WAS THERE FREE PARKING? NO [LAUGHTER]. I WALK I MEAN I HAD TO GO TO AVENUE F. NO PARKING IS ROUGH. THE PARKING IS ALWAYS ROUGH. BUT AND ANYWAY, JUST ONE MORE SUGGESTION. THIS IS GOING TO SOUND REALLY, YOU KNOW WHATEVER. NEXT FESTIVAL, NEXT TREE LIGHTING, NEXT YEAR. CAN WE HAVE FOOD AND DRINKS? [LAUGHTER] COOKIES? AND WE USED TO HAVE PUNCH AND COOKIES AND COFFEE, SO. THERE WAS HOT CHOCOLATE. I DIDN'T FIND IT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS ANYWAY. WELL, THANKS. THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. AND THERE WILL BE A RIBBON CUTTING FOR THAT MURAL, SO WATCH OUT FOR IT. OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE. WE'RE PAST THE 30 MINUTES. SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. [K. EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS] WE DO HAVE HEARING ON L.1. THAT'S THE TERMINATION OF THE MORATORIUM ON SMOKE SHOPS. SO I'LL START. I HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT AND WITH CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY ON THAT ITEM. I SPOKE WITH CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY. I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. CITY MANAGER. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. NOBODY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL JUMP TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER, L.1, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THAT'S PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER TERMINATION OF OUR URGENCY [L. PUBLIC HEARINGS] ORDINANCE IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON SMOKE SHOPS. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. OKAY MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I JUST HAVE A REALLY QUICK VERBAL PRESENTATION. SO IF APPROVED, THE URGENCY ORDINANCE WOULD BE TERMINATED ON JANUARY 1ST FOR THE INLAND PORTIONS OF THE CITY. THAT'S THE DATE THAT THE PERMANENT ORDINANCE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. AND THEN FOR THE COASTAL ZONE PORTIONS, IT WOULD BE TERMINATED UPON CERTIFICATION BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE URGENCY ORDINANCE TERMINATES APRIL 25TH, 2026. REGARDLESS, ON ITS OWN, BECAUSE IT WILL BE AT THE ONE YEAR PERIOD. IF FOR SOME REASON, IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION DOES NOT CERTIFY THIS LCP AMENDMENT BY THAT DATE, WE WILL BRING ANOTHER ONE YEAR URGENCY ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO EXTEND THIS WHILE WE WAIT FOR CERTIFICATION FOR THE COASTAL ZONE AREAS. CAN WE EXTEND IT AFTER WE TERMINATE IT? NO. SO WE'D HAVE TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE? IT WOULD BE A NEW EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. YEAH. I'M SORRY? A NEW EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. WE'D HAVE TO LET A NEW ONE? BASED ON, BUT BASED ON NEW PRESSING FACTS AND ALIGN IN ALIGNMENT WITH COASTAL COMMISSION REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF OUR AMENDMENT. OKAY, SO IT WOULD WE CAN'T AVOID A FOLLOW UP MEETING AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL UNDER EITHER ACTION. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? YEAH. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. NO. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. OKAY. SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TERMINATION? MOVE TO APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 3294-25. AND 3310-25. CUT OFF. YEAH. YES. SECOND. YEAH. WHAT YOU SAID. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THE MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL BE TERMINATING THE SMOKE SHOP MORATORIUM ON THE DATES DESCRIBED BY DIRECTOR WIENER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST READ THE TERMINATION? PLEASE. TEXT. TERMINATION OF URGENCY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3294-25 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, [00:55:04] CALIFORNIA, IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT OF SMOKE SHOPS IN THE CITY AND FINDING THE TERMINATION IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL BE JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM AND ITEMS UNDER N. [N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] THE FIRST ONE IS N.1. THAT'S THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FINAL DESIGN OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN REPLACEMENT. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR JANE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS JANE CHUNG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL INCLUDE A BRIEF RECAP AND OVERVIEW DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN AND AWARDING FOR THE LOWER SIGNAGE, HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE SIGN ITSELF, AND THEN CONCLUDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. AS A REMINDER, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025, STAFF PRESENTED DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN TO THE CITY COUNCIL. FOLLOWING THAT PRESENTATION, THE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO WORK WITH STELLEN DESIGN LLC TO FINALIZE THE PREFERRED DESIGN, AND COUNCIL ALSO ASKED THAT STAFF INCORPORATE THE FEEDBACK PROVIDED DURING THE MEETING AND RETURN FOR FINAL APPROVAL BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH SIGNED PROCUREMENT. IN RESPONSE TO THIS DIRECTION, STAFF COLLABORATED WITH STELLEN DESIGN LLC TO DEVELOP UPDATED CONCEPTS FOR BOTH THE MAIN GATEWAY SIGN AND THE LOWER SIGNAGE, WHICH WILL BE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. SO AGAIN ON THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED DESIGN OPTION NUMBER 7 OR NUMBER 1 AS PRESENTED ON THIS SLIDE HERE AS THEIR PREFERRED CHOICE. THIS OPTION AGAIN INCORPORATES THE CITY'S BRANDING FONT STYLE IN BLUE AND FEATURES THE UPDATED CITY LOGO WITHOUT THE SURROUNDING LIFE RING. AT THE SAME MEETING, THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT THE FONT BE MADE HEAVIER OR BOLDER TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY, AND THAT ADJUSTMENT IS REFLECTED IN DESIGN OPTION NUMBER 2. BEFORE. YES. BEFORE YOU GO ON, IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF STELLEN DESIGN? WE ACTUALLY HAVE JORDIS ON THE CALL TONIGHT TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL WAIT THEN. YES, AT THE END. AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION HERE, IDENTIFIED ON THIS PRESENTATION SLIDE, RETAINS THE CURRENT FONT STYLE FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT IN ADDITION TO THE FINAL DESIGN, STAFF IS PRESENTING SEVERAL LOWER SIGNAGE WORD CHOICES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. THESE OPTIONS WERE DEVELOPED IN RESPONSE TO CITY COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK RECEIVED DURING THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING FOR THE LOWER SIGNAGE. STELLEN DESIGN LLC HAS RECOMMENDED A CHARACTER COUNT BETWEEN 53 AND 57 TO HELP ENSURE CLARITY, READABILITY, AND CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE SIGNAGE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS HERE. THE SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS, WITH THE FIRST BEING THE VERSION PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 4TH. AND THEN FOUR ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION ON THIS SLIDE HERE. OKAY. TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT ABOUT OUR GATEWAY SIGN, THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN HAS EVOLVED THROUGH SEVERAL VERSIONS SINCE THE LATE 1920S, WITH NOTABLE UPDATES IN 1941, 1969, AND 2010 OR 2010. ORIGINALLY FUNDED BY THE KING HARBOR LESSEES ASSOCIATION RESPONSIBILITIES SHIFTED TO THE CITY IN 2003 AFTER 2003 AFTER STORM DAMAGE. THE CURRENT VERSION WAS UPDATED WITH STRUCTURAL REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT COMPONENTS IN THE IN 2010. REGARDLESS OF DESIGN OR WORDING TO NOTE, THE SIGN MUST NOW BE REPLACED TO ENSURE SAFETY, DURABILITY, AND CONTINUED VISIBILITY. THE EARLIEST VERSION OF THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE DATES BACK TO THE LATE 1920S THROUGH THE EARLY 1940S, DURING THE TIME WHEN THE PLUNGE WAS OPEN IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. THE ORIGINAL SIGN WAS A NEON DESIGN REFLECTING THE STYLE OF THAT ERA, WHICH CAN'T REALLY SEE HERE, BUT IT WAS A NEON SIGN AT THAT TIME. THE SECOND VERSION IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FROM THE 1940S UNTIL 1969. IN 1969, THE GATEWAY SIGN FEATURED SEVERAL DISTINCTIVE ELEMENTS, INCLUDING SIX FLAGPOLES WITH PENNANTS AND THREE ARCHITECTURAL DECORATIONS AT THE ENDS AND AT THE CENTER. THE LOWER SIGNAGE WAS PAINTED IN LIGHT BLUE AND RED. SPORT, FISHING, RESTAURANTS PORTOFINO INN AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF. THE SIGN WAS NOT ILLUMINATED DURING THIS TIME. IN 1995, THE ARCHED GATEWAY SIGN WAS FUNDED BY THE KING HARBOR LESSEES ASSOCIATION THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO INSTALL IT ON PUBLIC LAND. [01:00:09] AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IN 2003, THE CITY ASSUMED FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SIGN AFTER REQUIRED MAJOR REPAIRS FOLLOWING STORM DAMAGE. AT THE TIME, THE STRUCTURAL POLES WERE REPAIRED AND REPAINTED, AND THE BOTTOM SIGN WAS UPDATED TO THE DARK BLUE BACKGROUND THAT WE SEE TODAY. IN 2010, THE PLASTIC COMPONENTS WERE REPLACED, RESULTING IN THE VERSION THAT REMAINS AGAIN IN TODAY THAT YOU SEE THERE. AS MENTIONED ON THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING, ONCE A DESIGN IS APPROVED, STAFF WILL BEGIN THE BIDDING PROCESS TO SECURE A QUALIFIED MANUFACTURER FOR THE ILLUMINATED SIGN PANELS, AS WELL AS THE PAINTING CONTRACTOR FOR THE POLES AND SUPPORTING STRUCTURE. THE PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN EARLY 2026, WITH COMPLETION TARGETED FOR MID 2026, WEATHER PERMITTING. FOR WEATHER CONDITIONS TO ENSURE PROPER PAINT. PROPER DRYING TIME FOR PAINT. THE CITY HAS ALREADY PREPARED TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS, WHICH INCLUDE INTERMITTENT CLOSURES OF THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE AT ANITA STREET AND PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, AND AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. STELLEN DESIGN LLC WILL REMAIN ACTIVELY INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING TONIGHT FROM CITY COUNCIL 1. THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDE DIRECTION ON THE FINAL DESIGN SELECTION FOR THE KING HARBOR GATEWAY SIGN. 2. SELECTION OF THE WORDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE LOWER SIGNAGE, AND 3. AUTHORIZE STAFF TO INITIATE THE BIDDING PROCESS. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. AS MENTIONED, JORDIS IS WITH US VIA ZOOM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SURE I MEAN, I'LL ASK THE FIRST QUESTION. IS THERE A RECOMMENDED SIGN SOLUTION? AS A PANELIST, YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. IS SHE ON? SHE'S ON. JORDIS YOU ON? I DON'T THINK SHE KNOWS SHE'S ON. MAYBE DELAY. DO WE KNOW? HAVE YOU TALKED WITH HER, JANE? I HAVE BUT I WOULD WANT TO DEFER TO HER TO GIVE YOU HER OPTIONS. BUT SHE CAN'T GET ON I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE FOR HOURS. JORDIS ARE YOU AVAILABLE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL DO OUR BEST. WE'LL DO OUR BEST. COUNCIL ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF RIGHT NOW? OR WE CAN LET JANE TRY TO SUMMARIZE HER CONVERSATION AS BEST SHE CAN. WITHOUT PUTTING WORDS IN JORDIS' MOUTH. SO THE FINAL THREE DESIGN OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TONIGHT IS KIND OF A CULMINATION OF THE SEVEN DESIGN OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 7TH OR ON THE 4TH, WITH OPTION NUMBER 7 BEING THE PREFERRED CHOICE. JORDIS DID AGREE THAT THE HEAVIER FONT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR VISIBILITY PURPOSES. HEAVIER FONT? HEAVIER FONT? YES CORRECT. THAT'S NUMBER 2. OPTION 2. THAT'S ON THE. TWO? CORRECT, YES. BUT SHE DID ALSO PROVIDE A DESIGN OPTION OF NUMBER 3. KNOWING THAT THERE MAY BE INTEREST IN KEEPING THE CURRENT FONT AS WELL. I THINK FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW, SHE HAS EXPRESSED TO ME THAT VISIBILITY IS IMPORTANT AS WELL AS SPACING IT OUT SO THAT IT IS VISIBLE AND THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE WORDS AND THAT IT'S NOT TOO BUSY ON THE SIGN ITSELF. SO ULTIMATELY CLEAN, CLEAR AND VISIBLE FROM ALL SORTS OF ANGLES ON PCH, ANITA, 190TH AND SO ON. OPTION TO MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. AND SHE DID AS WAS NOTED, SHE HAD A STRONG RECOMMENDATION ON THE CHARACTER COUNTS, BUT SHE DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE AN OPINION ON THE WORDS THEMSELVES. THAT'S ULTIMATELY, I THINK, A COUNCIL AND CITY CHOICE. OF THE RANGE? OF THE RANGE OF OPTIONS BELOW FOR THE WORDING THAT WE CHOOSE. CAN YOU PUT THOSE UP? SURE. AND BEFORE YOU DO, IF I COULD JUST GO QUICKLY BACK TO THAT SLIDE. SURE. SO LOOKING AT OPTION 2 SAID THE NUMBER OF CHARACTERS 54 TO 57? 53 TO 57. DO THE CHARACTERS ON THE SMALLER SIGN ON OPTION 2 FALL WITHIN THAT 53 TO 57 RANGE? I CAN GIVE YOU THE ANSWER IN JUST A MOMENT. IT'S 54 CHARACTERS. IT'S OPTION 2 HERE AS WELL. THAT WORKS? THAT'S ALSO OPTION 2. CORRECT. TWO AND TWO. TWO AND TWO. OKAY. IF I MAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. GO AHEAD. BACK TO THAT SIGN, PLEASE. I DID REACH OUT TO JORDIS AND ASK HER WHETHER SHE INTENTIONALLY MADE AN OPTION TWO AND THREE FOR THAT MATTER. [01:05:07] THE SUBTEXT NOT CENTER ALIGNED, BUT DOWN FURTHER. THAT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT. SO IT IS INTENDED TO BE CENTER ALIGNED. CORRECT. SHE INDICATED, WHICH WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. OKAY. CAN WE GO TO THE WORDS? I MEAN, I'LL START OUT WITH MY PREFERENCE. IF YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE, I THINK YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE WHICH VERSION. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT WATERCRAFT VESSEL RENTALS VERSUS BOAT RENTALS BECAUSE WATERCRAFT IMPLIES SUPS, KAYAKS, NOT JUST BOATS. AND IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY. IT'S NOT THAT EASY TO RENT JUST A BOAT IN THE HARBOR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CAPTAIN JAKE'S DUFFY IS NOW THE REST OF THEM ARE CHARTERS. SO I BELIEVE WATERCRAFT RENTALS IS MORE APPROPRIATE THAN BOAT RENTALS. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M. I'M PRETTY AMBIVALENT TO THE CHOICE SO. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE WORDS UNDERNEATH? I COULD MY PREFERENCE IS NUMBER SIX ACTUALLY I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN BOATING IN GENERAL AND ENTERTAINMENT GET ADDED IN. BUT I'M NOT. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE RECOMMENDING. IT IS TWO CHARACTERS MORE THAN RECOMMENDED OR THREE RECOMMENDED THAT'S CORRECT BUT. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE? IT IS OUTSIDE THE RANGE. WHAT CHARACTER? BY ONE. OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? MY PREFERENCE IS FOR OPTION SIX AS WELL. I THINK WATERCRAFT RENTALS IS MOST PEOPLE THINK OF THAT AS A SUBSET OF BOATING OVERALL, AND WE DO MORE THAN JUST RENTALS OF WATERCRAFT DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE HOTELS AND DINING AND FISHING, BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TOO, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE WATERFRONT. AND THAT BRINGS IN ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE IN THE OTHER. WELL, RIGHT. AND ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL. YEP. ANYONE ELSE? I WAS I WAS HAPPY WITH WHAT WAS ON OPTION 2. [LAUGHTER]. LIKE WHAT WAS SHE INITIALLY PUT UP THERE. PIER, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, SEASIDE LAGOON AND FISHING. I THINK THE SPACING IS REALLY GOOD THERE. I THINK WHAT'S MISSING OR WHAT YOU ADD IN NUMBER SIX IS ENTERTAINMENT, BUT YOU SHORTEN RESTAURANTS INTO DINING AND BOATING. WE TAKE OUT. KIND OF LIKE MARINAS. IT'S LIKE, DO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT THERE'RE MARINAS, A BOAT RAMP DOWN THERE AND BOATING? IT'S A HARBOR. IT SAYS KING HARBOR. THERE ARE BOATS IN KING HARBOR. SO THAT WAS. THAT'S MY THOUGHT. OKAY. I DID HAVE A. UNLESS YOU'RE STILL GOING ON NUMBER 2. WHICH 2? OPTION 2. THE WORDING TWO OR? YEAH OPTION 2. SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS SEASIDE LAGOON. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR KIND OF MARQUEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. SO IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND SHOWCASE IT A LITTLE BIT. IT'S GOT PIER, WHICH WE LOVE, HOTELS, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. TLT. RESTAURANTS IMPORTANT. I LIKE KEEPING FISHING ON. I MEAN, I'M NOT HARD OVER ON IT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SPORT FISHING. THIS IS FISHING. I WE'VE ALL BEEN DOWN THERE AND SEEN THE FISHING. NONE OF THESE, I WOULD SAY, ARE PERFECT, PARTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WORD LIMITATIONS SO. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET ALL THE WORDS FOR EVERYTHING DOWN THERE. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPROMISE. IF I HAD A SECOND CHOICE WOULD ALSO BE NUMBER 2. IT WOULD BE 2? I'M IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION. I THINK 2 CHECKS ALL THE BOXES. BUT THAT'S JUST ME AND YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? FOR JORDIS? IT'S JORDIS ON NOW? JORDIS IS ON NOW OKAY. JORDIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? THANK YOU. WE ASKED WHAT YOUR PREFERRED OPTION WAS. AND SHOULD YOU ALSO MAKE A MOTION? DO YOU THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO. WELL, LET'S HEAR JORDIS'S FIRST. IS SHE ON? YEAH, SHE'S ON. JORDIS AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, CLARIFY THE PREFERRED OPTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE LETTERING ON THE SIGN. LETTERING ON THE SIGN. FOR BOTH. WELL, SHE'S GIVEN US DIRECTION ON THE CHARACTER COUNT. LET'S HEAR IT FROM HER. OKAY. CHARACTER COUNT. ARE YOU THERE JORDIS? YEAH I'M HERE. I JUST DO WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT I'M SPEAKING ON. RIGHT. SO FIRST, WHAT'S YOUR ON THE OVERALL GATEWAY SIGN OPTION BEFORE WE GO TO THE WORDING ON THE ON THE BLUE SIGN? OKAY. MY FIRST. WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? CALL OUT. I DO WANT TO MAKE A DISCLAIMER THAT THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU GUYS ALL HAVE WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT I PUT TOGETHER. [01:10:03] AND SO THE FONT IN THE SUBHEADING IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAD PROPOSED. IT'S NOT A MAKE OR BREAK, BUT I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT OUT. AND THEN DESIGN STANDPOINT, I WOULD GO BETWEEN 2 AND 3. AND ACTUALLY NUMBER 3, THE REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR IS ALSO NOT IN THE FONT THAT I HAD PRESENTED. BUT HONESTLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE A TOSS UP BETWEEN THOSE TWO. AND YEAH, I DON'T HONESTLY. AND THEN ON THE WORDING, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, THE WORDING ON THE BLUE PART, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THERE? I, LIKE 2. OPTION 2 UNDER THE. WORDING. UNDER THE WORDING. YEAH. FOR THE LOWER SIGNAGE I WOULD GO WITH OPTION 2. PIER, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, SEASIDE LAGOON, FISHING. AND CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHY YOU SELECTED 2? BECAUSE THOSE WORDS ARE ALL QUICK WORDS THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE IF THEY ARE DRIVING ALONG PCH. YOU GLANCE UP, IT'S ALMOST LIKE SIGHT WORDS WHERE YOU LOOK AT THEM AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. WHEREAS A LONGER WORD LIKE WATERCRAFT RENTALS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT AND READ AND DIGEST A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO JUST FROM A STANDPOINT, AND I ALSO WAS THINKING A LOT ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND GOING BACK YOU KNOW, WITH THE DISCUSSIONS ON WHICH DESIGN TO GO WITH. AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TAKE A STANDPOINT AS TO ASKING LIKE, WHO IS THE SIGN FOR AND WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SIGN? AND WHO'S GOING TO BE SEEING THE SIGN? WHAT DO WE WANT THE SIGN TO DO ESSENTIALLY, AND THEN BASING THESE DESIGN DECISIONS BASED OFF OF THAT. AND I THINK THE FACT THAT TRAFFIC FLOWS PRETTY HEAVILY ON PCH, SIMPLE AND QUICK AND EASY TO READ, IS GOING TO BE THE BEST ROUTE TO GO. OKAY. WE'VE GOTTEN WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK VIA EMAIL AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT KEEPING THE ARTWORK IN THE CENTER INTACT AND KEEPING THE LETTERING EXACTLY AS IS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT TO THAT? YES, I DO, AND THIS I ACTUALLY CAN I WANT TO ANSWER IT TWO WAYS. PERSONAL OPINION AND PROFESSIONAL OPINION. BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST FROM THE GET GO, THE CENTER ARTWORK, IT MAKES SENSE TO REPLACE WITH THE LOGO. I DID SOME CONCEPTS THAT HAD THE LIFE SAVING RING STILL INTACT. AND THEN WHEN I SHOWED SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED, BORN AND RAISED HERE IN THEIR 60S, THEY'VE SAID, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT WAS A LIFE SAVING RING. SO THEN I KIND OF STARTED TO QUESTION THE NEED FOR THAT THERE. REGARDLESS THE FACT THAT THE LOGO IS A SAILBOAT ON THE WATER AND THAT GRAPHIC IS A SAILBOAT ON THE WATER, AND THE LOGO IS MUCH MORE EYE CATCHING AND CLEARLY VISIBLE AS TO WHAT IT IS. THAT OLD GRAPHIC IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE MOST PEOPLE SAY WHEN I'VE SHOWN THEM, THEY'RE LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS IN THERE. SO IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER TO PUT THE LOGO IN THE CENTER IF THERE'S A LOT OF PUSHBACK FOR KEEPING THE SAME. I THINK THE FONT COULD STAY THE SAME. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT FONT. SO IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT TYPE OF THING. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO JUST THE STANDPOINT OF LIKE COMING AT IT FROM SOMEONE, FROM MY PERSONAL OPINION, WHO'S BORN AND RAISED HERE AND LIKES THE NOSTALGIC OPTION VERSUS, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO IT. SO I HONESTLY DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THAT CALL, BUT THAT'S MY POINT ON THOSE. OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SIGN. OPTION 2 AND OPTION 2 AS LAID OUT IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 2 AND 2. WITH BEING INFORMED WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THE PUBLIC. WE DO HAVE ONE SUBMITTED CARD. SO, GEORGETTE GANTNER, YOU'RE THE ONLY CARD. AND THEN AFTER THAT, ANYONE CAN COME UP AND SPEAK. OKAY. GEORGETTE GANTNER DISTRICT TWO. WHATEVER THIS IS COSTING, IT'S TOO MUCH IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FACT, ESPECIALLY IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FACT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOW REQUESTING MORE MONEY. THEY'VE HAD MANY REPRESENTATIVES COMING UP TO REQUEST THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR OR WHAT'S WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE. THE FACT THAT THE SIGN IS UP HERE AND WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT. I'M NOT SAYING NO ONE SEES IT, BUT FEWER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IT. I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S UNLESS THERE'S A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM OR IS A SAFETY ISSUE. I SEE NO REASON TO CHANGE THIS WHATSOEVER. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SENTIMENTAL IN OUR CITY, AND THEY LIKE TO KEEP THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED TOO. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE MONEY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT TO SPEND IS WORTH IT FOR THE MAIN SIGN. NOW, THE SECOND SIGN. IF AS LONG AS IT'S AFFORDABLE, MAYBE THERE'S ENOUGH OF A JUSTIFICATION TO SIMPLIFY THAT BECAUSE IT'S THAT MUCH FURTHER DOWN. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, OH YEAH, REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR, BUT OH, WHAT'S THE SECOND LINE? [01:15:04] IT REPRESENTS WHAT THE HARBOR OFFERS. SO MAYBE THERE'S RESPECTABILITY FOR THAT TO CHANGE. BUT I WOULD SAY TRY TO SPEND AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE IF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE CIP FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE I WAS UP HERE AND HAVING GONE OUT THERE WITH A TELEPHOTO LENS AND TAKING SOME SHOTS OF THE CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE, IT'S TIME. IT'S TIME TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE STRUCTURE BEFORE WE GET TO A 2003 SCENARIO WHERE WE HAD TO BECAUSE THE PLASTIC BROKE AND THE STRUCTURE WAS COMPROMISED IN A WINDSTORM. SO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IS GOING TO BE WHETHER WE KEEP IT THE SAME OR WE CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT'S TIME. IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON IT. YEAH. IF I COULD ADD TO THAT. MAYOR, THIS IS THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT AS A REFURBISHMENT EFFORT OF THE EXISTING SIGN. IT WAS FUNDED AS SUCH. THE SIGN POLES NEED TO BE REPAINTED. THEY NEED TO BE STRIPPED, TREATED, REPAINTED. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO THAT. WE'RE PROBABLY 2 TO 3 YEARS OVERDUE FOR THAT. AND WE NEED TO REPLACE THE PLASTIC ON THE SIGN, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT'S ULTIMATELY BEHIND THE PLASTIC. AND WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE THAT TIME IS THE ADOPTION OF THE CITY'S LOGO AND THE EXPLORATION OF AN UPDATED REPLACEMENT TO THE SIGN. SO THIS AND ONE OTHER CAVEAT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE TIME CAPITAL RESOURCES, NOT ONGOING STRUCTURAL REVENUES TO SUPPORT ONGOING OPERATING EXPENSES, I.E. SALARIES. SO THOSE TWO THINGS ALWAYS NEED TO BE DISTINGUISHED FROM ONE ANOTHER. ONE DOES NOT OBFUSCATE THE OTHER IN THIS INSTANCE. YEAH, I WOULD SAY FROM MY TELEPHOTO LENSES. AND I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE PICTURES IN HERE TO SHOW, BUT I DIDN'T. THE STRUCTURE, THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS STARTING TO SHOW THE RUST IS RUNNING, WHICH THAT'S A BAD SITUATION. IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO THE CANCER STAGE IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT NOW. AND THE ACTUAL METAL BOXES AND, AND FRAMES THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE PLASTIC ARE IN THERE, THINNER METAL AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME CONDITION. SO I'M WORRIED WHETHER THOSE ARE EVEN REUSABLE AS IS. AND THEN I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED WHEN I ZOOMED IN WITH THE TELEPHOTO LENS. THE PAINT IS PEELING AND CRACKING ON THE PLASTIC SIGN, AND SOME COLORS ARE SO FADED YOU CAN ONLY SEE THEM IN A LITTLE, LIKE MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY. IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY, YOU CAN TELL THERE'S ACTUALLY TAN ABOVE THE MOUNTAINS IN THAT PICTURE, AND IT'S TOTALLY FADED. BUT EVEN ON LIKE THE OCEAN WATER AND THE HILLS THAT ARE GREEN. AND THE OCEAN WATER THAT'S BLUE. THE PAINT IS CRACKED AND IT'S STARTING TO PEEL BACK AND OFF OF ITSELF, WHICH IS A SIGN THE PLASTIC ITSELF IS AGING. AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS A BIG WINDSTORM THAT WOULD CRACK IT. AND THEN IT'S EMERGENCY REPAIR VERSUS A MAINTENANCE ITEM. SO I DID GET ANOTHER CARD. DAVID ROSENFELD, YOU'RE UP. HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DAVID ROSENFELD, DISTRICT TWO. I JUST WANTED I WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO SUPPORT THE REFURBISHMENT OF THE SIGN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO PRESERVE THE SIGN. I'M. I DON'T KNOW WHY I FEEL SO ANXIOUS ABOUT YOU GUYS CHANGING OUR SIGN. I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS, LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY HOT BUTTON ISSUE. YOU'VE ALREADY HAD OVER 2000 PEOPLE SIGN A PETITION NOT TO DO THIS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER ISSUES YOU HAVE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT MANY PEOPLE SIGNING PETITIONS. I DIDN'T GENERATE THAT MANY FROM MY CANNABIS PETITION. I THINK IF YOU DO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FLOOD OF PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN NEWSPAPERS FOR 20 YEARS. I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION. AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE. PEOPLE. YOU SAW THE RESPONSE ON FACEBOOK. I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE IT. I THINK MAKE THE SIGN LOOK NICE, MAYBE CHANGE THE PHOTO, MAKE IT LOOK ACCURATE, CHANGE THE HILLSIDE OR SOMETHING, BUT KEEP IT LOOKING LIKE IT LOOKS. THIS IS OUR ICONIC IMAGE OF THE CITY THAT IS IN EVERYTHING. WHEN THE CITY COMES UP IN DOCUMENTARIES, ON THE INTERNET, ON WIKIPEDIA, IT'S THE NUMBER ONE IMAGE OF THE CITY. SO I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH THOUGH I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO A MODERN FONT, FOR INSTANCE, THAT SANS SERIF FONT THAT LOOKS MODERN. THE CURRENT SIGN LOOKS OLDER AND NOSTALGIC WITH CHARACTER. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT GENERATES. SO I'M JUST SO OPPOSED TO THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S JUST MAKING ME VERY ANXIOUS [LAUGHTER]. AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GREW UP HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHEN YOU GROW UP SOMEWHERE, YOU HAVE AN AFFINITY TOWARDS THE ICONS OF THE CITY, AND YOU GUYS CAN THINK ABOUT THE TOWNS THAT YOU GREW UP IN, AND THERE'S PROBABLY THINGS THERE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE CHANGED EITHER. AND I JUST, I JUST THINK YOU'RE UNDERESTIMATING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET BY THIS. [01:20:07] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID YOU REALIZE IT'S CHANGED SINCE? SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE 1969? I MEAN, IT HASN'T I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT HAS. WELL, CAN YOU PUT THE. OH, YOU SAID 95 THERE WAS SOMETHING. CAN YOU PUT THE PICTURE BACK UP JANE OF THE HISTORY? MELISSA WE WOULD NEED. THAT'S IT DAVID. NO ONE HERE REMEMBERS THAT. AND OKAY DAVID THANK YOU. OKAY THANKS. SO THAT PICTURE AT THE TOP, THERE'S NO LONGER ANY PENNANTS UP THERE. THERE'S THREE ARCHITECTURAL DECORATIONS ON THERE THAT AREN'T THERE ANYMORE. THE BOTTOM IS GREEN. THE SAME SPIRIT. DON'T NOBODY SHOUT OUT. THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND SPEAK WHEN CALLED. I'M JUST TELLING YOU FACTS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND. YOU CAN JUST WALK UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF MARK HANSEN KING HARBOR BOATER. I'VE BEEN BOATING AND DRIVING UNDER THOSE SIGNS FOR 65 YEARS NOW [LAUGHTER]. THE I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME, ACTUALLY ANALYZING OUR OPTIONS ON THIS. AND I SENT YOU ALL SOME BRIEF RECOMMENDATIONS EARLIER TODAY THERE IN YOUR EMAILS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A PEEK. THE FIRST COUPLE, I THINK, ARE SLAM DUNKS. PIER AND FISHING. THOSE SEEM PRETTY POPULAR WITH EVERYBODY ON THE LAGOON. I AGREE. FROM OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST CALL IT THE LAGOON. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REASONABLE. ADDING SEASIDE LIKE SOME OTHER STUFF IS KIND OF SUPERFLUOUS. WE KNOW IT'S SEASIDE. I SUPPORT THE WORD DINING INSTEAD OF FOOD OR RESTAURANTS. VARIOUS PEOPLE I TALKED TO CAME THAT SAME CONCLUSION. THEY FELT THAT THE WORD DINING IS OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH FINE DINING. SO IT WAS KIND OF THE CLASS OF THE THREE CHOICES. THOSE ARE THE EASY ONES. THE SECOND TWO I REALLY SUPPORT THE TERM WATERCRAFT, WATERCRAFT RENTALS AS OPPOSED TO BOAT RENTALS FOR THE REASONS THAT THE MAYOR SAID. IT'S MORE INCLUSIVE AND WAY MORE PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN THERE AND USE WATERCRAFT COMPARED TO BOTH. SO I THINK THAT'S WORTH THE EXTRA FEW LETTERS ON THAT THAT ONE. AND ALSO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER. THEY COME DOWN HERE AND TAKE OUT ONE OF THE WATERCRAFT. 15 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO REMEMBER THAT TRIP TO REDONDO BEACH. I THINK THAT ONE'S IMPORTANT. THE FINAL ONE IS THE TOUGHEST ONE. WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME ABOUT SHOULD WE HAVE THE TERM BOAT LAUNCH IN THERE? AND AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, WELL, THE BOAT RAMP WON'T BE BUILT FOR ANOTHER FEW YEARS, AND SOMEBODY ELSE MADE A GREAT POINT THAT WE'LL KNOW THE HOIST IS A LAUNCH AND THE RAMP IS. SO THERE'S REALLY NO PROBLEM THERE. AND AFTER 65 YEARS OF NOT HAVING A BOAT RAMP, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR OUR HARBOR. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK ABOUT. THEY GO INTO THAT SIGN AND THEY KNOW, OH, LOOK, THE NEW LETTERS UP THERE. OKAY. I THINK FOREVER AND ALWAYS IT'S GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK, OH, WE CAN FINALLY GET INTO THE WATER MORE EASILY HERE IN THE HARBOR. SO I REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY WOULD ADVOCATE GET RID OF THE WORD HOTELS THAT TO ME, THAT ONE HAS ALMOST NOTHING UNIQUELY TO DO WITH THE HARBOR. THERE'S HOTELS ALL OVER TOWN. THERE'S SOME HOTELS IN THE HARBOR. IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE AN ICONIC CORONADO HOTEL OR REDONDO HOTEL. SO THAT'S MY STRONGEST RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU. ERASE HOTELS. PUT IN SOMETHING WAY MORE HARBOR SPECIFIC BOAT LAUNCH THAT WILL SERVE US FINE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND SERVICE INTO THE FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR. MY NAME IS JAKE TEDESCO. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT. I'VE BEEN IN REDONDO FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS WHERE I'M RAISING MY SON, AND I THINK REDONDO IS THE BEST OF THE BEACH CITIES. I'VE LIVED IN ALL OF THEM. AND I'M DOING MY BEST TO TRY AND KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REDESIGN OF THE REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR SIGN. ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT PUBLIC INPUT WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OR EVEN ASKED FOR PRIOR TO STARTING THIS REDESIGN. I ACTUALLY DIDN'T COME HERE TO COMPLAIN OR CRITICIZE THE NEW DESIGN. I ACTUALLY HERE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. AND I ALSO HAVE A SOLUTION THAT I BELIEVE MIGHT BE WELL RECEIVED. FIRST, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS SIGN NEVER HAD A CITY SEAL OR CITY LOGO ON IT OF ANY TYPE. THE ARTWORK ON THIS SIGN WAS COMMISSIONED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS SIGN IS A PUBLIC ARTWORK FROM 1969, CREATED TO WELCOME VISITORS AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE CITY AND HARBOR. IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS A WORK OF PUBLIC ART, NOT JUST A PLACE TO HOLD THE CITY LOGO. [01:25:04] IT IS UNIQUE AND HAS WITHSTOOD THE TEST OF TIME FOR 56 YEARS. THE SIGN IS CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S AN ICON, AND IT'S A LANDMARK. I'M ASKING THAT THE REDESIGN CONCEPT BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL FURTHER PUBLIC INPUT CAN BE RECEIVED AND EVALUATED. THIS BRINGS ME TO MY SOLUTION. IT SEEMS THAT COUNCIL IS PRETTY SET ON DOING SOMETHING TO THE SIGN, AND IT APPARENTLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO RATHER THAN REDESIGNING AND CORPORATE BRANDING, I'M SUGGESTING WE DO A RESTORATION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS. WE'LL GET IT CLEANED UP, PAINTED, AND PUT AS CLOSE TO ORIGINAL CONDITION AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN WE TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. WE CAN REGISTER IT WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. IT QUALIFIES. IT'S 50 YEARS OLD. IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE AND EMBODIES CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE. THE CITY CAN TAKE PRIDE IN PRESERVING A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF HISTORY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THE SAME SIGN THAT WELCOMED GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW WILL BE HERE TO WELCOME THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. FINALLY, WE INSTALL A LITTLE BRASS PLAQUE TO COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION AND CALL IT A DAY. THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION IS A MUCH EASIER PROCESS IF THE CITY COOPERATES, SO I HOPE YOU WILL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER RESTORATION AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS AN OPTION. IT WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO CLAPPING. YOU CAN SHOW YOUR HAND YOUR SUPPORT BY WAVING. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING GUYS, CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THOSE GUYS PRETTY MUCH SAID IT ALL MY DISAPPOINTMENT WITH YOU GUYS IS YOU DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER ASKING THE PUBLIC. HAD THE PUBLIC KNOWN AND WE HAD PROPER INPUT AND THERE WAS LIKE A CONSENSUS, I DON'T CARE. CHANGE IT, DON'T CHANGE IT. I WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY COOL WITH THAT. I GOT INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS. YOU GUYS POST ANYTHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ANNOUNCING THE IDEA OF CHANGING IT. YOU'RE GOING TO REFURBISH IT, AS I HEAR CORRECTLY, BUT IN THAT SAME CONVERSATION, IT WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S CHANGE THE LOOK OF IT. THE SIGN ISN'T THE STRUCTURE. THE SIGN IS THE GRAPHIC. THAT GRAPHIC HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 69. JIM, YOU ARGUE THAT IT'S CHANGED, BUT WHAT'S CHANGED IS THE BACKGROUND. AND IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED AT THIS. I'M A GRAPHIC DESIGNER. I'VE LIVED MY ENTIRE LIFE. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MY ENTIRE LIFE. SO IT'S AS IF YOU'RE PEERING THROUGH THE LIFE SAVER, RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUND? THE VERY FIRST RENDERINGS WAS A BOAT IN THE OCEAN, ALRIGHT WHEN THEY REDID IT. IT WAS PROBABLY TORN UP. THEY COULDN'T. THERE WAS A THERE WASN'T A DIGITAL FILE TO ACTUALLY REPLICATE IT EXACTLY. SO SOME GUY PAINTED IT AGAIN FROM MAYBE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE, BUT NOW THERE'S BUILDINGS IN THE BACK BECAUSE AT THE TIME THERE WAS MORE BUILT. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AS IF YOU'RE PEERING THROUGH THE LIFE, THE LIFE SAVER. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. THERE'S NO GUESSING ABOUT THAT. IF YOU'RE A GIANT AND YOU'RE PEERING THROUGH THERE, THAT'S WHAT THE GUY WAS. THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND IT, WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE INTERESTING. AND PEOPLE WHEN I TELL PEOPLE THIS, THEY ARE STOKED. IT'S LIKE, WOW, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MY LIFE AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND I HIGHLY SUGGEST, BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED WITH THIS, WE'VE YET TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN ONLINE CAMPAIGN OR DO ANY FOOTWORK. WE ARE. WE ARE POISED TO MAKE THIS AN HISTORICAL LANDMARK REGARDLESS OF ANY DECISION THAT'S MADE. WE HOPE YOU GUYS WILL JOIN US. YOU GUYS COULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT SAVE THIS THING. YOU'RE GOING TO BE REMEMBERED MORE FOR THAT THAN PUTTING CLIP ART. AND IT IS CLIP ART. IF YOU DO A GOOGLE SEARCH. I HATE I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT A GOOGLE SEARCH YOU WILL FIND THIS ONLINE A SIMPLE ROUND LOGO. SO THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL FIND ONLINE. OKAY, IT'S FINE FOR BRANDING. WHATEVER. KEEP IT CONSISTENT. DON'T MESS WITH THE SIGN THOUGH. THAT'S IT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHY I GOT INVOLVED. ONCE YOU MESS WITH THAT. OKAY? I DON'T MIND BRANDING. OKAY. KEEP PUT ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT THAT AND YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE PUSHING TO MAKE IT A CALIFORNIA LANDMARK BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE. AND YOU GUYS CAN BE A PART OF IT. WE'D LOVE YOU TO JOIN US. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SORRY FOR YELLING EARLIER, BUT IT HAS CHANGED. YES, BUT THE CHANGE WAS SLIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS HAD THE SAME SPIRIT OF IT. YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. THERE. OH ONE MORE. I COULD READ THIS. HI. MY NAME IS JOSH MCLEOD, A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH SINCE 78. CAREER PROFESSIONAL CREATIVE DIRECTOR. IN THE FIELD OF GRAPHIC DESIGN. BEEN A CREATIVE DIRECTOR FOR WORLD RECOGNIZED BRANDS SUCH AS PARAMOUNT PICTURES, VANS SHOES. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OF THEM. TACO BELL, MYSPACE, THE LIST GOES ON WITH MY CAREER. I LEAD WITH THAT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF MODERNIZING A LOGO AND SIGN THAT HAS NO NEED FOR MODERNIZATION TO BEGIN WITH. [01:30:05] IT HAS EQUITY SIMPLY AS IT IS. IT'S ACTUALLY LAUGHABLE TO ME THAT IN A PRESENTATION DISCUSSING SIGNAGE NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE IN TYPOGRAPHY AND GRAPHIC DESIGN AMONGST PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE FIELD. THERE'S NO NAMES OF THE FONTS YOU SAY. FONT ONE. FONT TWO. FONT. THAT YOU'D GET KICKED OUT OF A BOARDROOM LIKE THAT IN THE REAL WORLD. FONT ONE. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE FONT? WHAT IS IT? PIPPIN. IS THAT A FREE GOOGLE FONT? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, WELL, WE SHOULDN'T DO ANY BRANDING. SHOULD NOT INVOLVE A FREE GOOGLE FONT. RULE ONE. ANYWAYS, BEYOND THAT RANT, MODERNIZING OPENS UP THE IMMEDIATE RISK OF BECOMING A TREND CYCLE. WHEN YOU REDESIGN SOMETHING TO FEEL CURRENT, YOU ALSO GUARANTEE IT WILL FEEL OUTDATED THE MOMENT THAT TREND AND TASTE SHIFT, WHICH HAPPENS AT THE BLINK OF AN EYE. GRAPHIC DESIGN MOVES FAST. ANYTHING STYLIZED TO MATCH THESE TRENDS IS GUARANTEED TO HAVE A SHORT LIFE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE NATURE OF THIS SIGN ONCE YOU GUYS DO THIS CHANGE. EVEN THE DESIGNER ON THE PHONE YOU JUST HEARD FROM SAID, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, WHY FIX IT? YOU KNOW, HISTORIC OR CHARACTER RICH ARTWORK AVOIDS THE TRAP OF MODERNIZATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT TREND DEPENDENT. IT'S AUTHENTIC. IT'S HANDCRAFTED. IT GIVES IT A TIMELESS QUALITY THAT MODERNIZE AND TREND CHASING REDESIGNS RARELY ACHIEVE. WHEN THE POWERS THAT BE, YOU KNOW, SEEK NOT TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY ICONIC, THERE'S NO NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING AT ALL. THAT WILL CAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHANGING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO CAUSE CONFUSION AND UPSET. SO WE SAW WE ALL SAW THE PHOTOS FROM THE 60S AND WE IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE IT. THE MAJORITY OF THAT SIGN IS EXACTLY WHAT STANDING CURRENTLY TODAY. YOU SEE IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S BARELY DIFFERENT. MIGHT BE SOME COLOR DIFFERENTIATORS, WHATEVER. THERE'S A LOT OF EQUITY THERE. SO YOU GUYS HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT. MY QUESTION TO YOU, WHY WIPE IT CLEAN? I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO END THIS. I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO THINK OF, LIKE, A MEMORABLE CITY OR TOWN YOU VISITED AND EVEN JUST ONCE. NOW PICTURE THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU LATER SEE AN OLD PHOTO OF THAT SAME PLACE, WHEN THE WORLD AROUND IT CHANGED AND THE SIGNAGE STAYED THE SAME. IT HITS YOU WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT. AND THAT FEELING IS CONTINUITY. IT'S COMMUNITY AND IT TELLS YOU THE PLACE HAS A SOUL, A MEMORY AND AN IDENTITY THAT SURVIVED TIME. YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO VAPORIZE IT. DON'T DO THAT. IT'S RIDICULOUS. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MOMENT A CITY DECIDES TO REVAMP ITS SIGNAGE BASED ON RUSHED OPINIONS AND SURFACE LEVEL INSIGHTS, THAT CONNECTION IS SEVERED. IT'S JARRING. YOU LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OH, SOMEONE NEW CAME IN AND ERASED THE CULTURE. OKAY THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. ALL RIGHT DEPRESSING THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. GOOD. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ANYONE ONLINE? YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE A FEW HANDS RAISED. LAURA DUKE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. GO AHEAD LAURA. HI THERE. GOOD EVENING, LAURA DUKE DISTRICT THREE. FIRST OFF, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI I LIKE YOUR HOLIDAY SPIRIT. [LAUGHTER]. THANKS TO THE MAYOR. I HAD TO TAKE MINE OFF. I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED BY THE RECENT COMMENTS. BECAUSE OF THE PASSION, I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT MAYBE TOTALLY FOLLOWING THEM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE THERE'S THAT EXTREME OF A CHANGE BEING PROPOSED AND, LIKE, LIKE MR. WITZANSKY SAID IT'S A SITUATION WHERE IT HAS TO BE REFURBISHED. SO WHILE WE'RE AT IT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE NICE TO KIND OF MAKE SOME CHANGES TO IT. MODERNIZE IT A LITTLE BIT. AND AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE PRESENTATION, IT HAS CHANGED, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES. I MEAN, NOT VERY RECENTLY, BUT OVER THE LAST CENTURY, I GUESS YOU'D SAY. AND I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN THIS KIND OF YOU KNOW, PASSION. AND YOU KNOW I SHOULDN'T DISMISS PEOPLE'S PASSION. YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL HOW YOU WANT TO FEEL. SO FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, JUST A COUPLE LITTLE NOTES I WROTE THE FOOD THERE WAS ONE THAT SAID FOOD. THAT SEEMS A LITTLE CRASS, SO I THINK DINING WOULD SOUND NICER. I'M WITH MARK NELSON ON THE HOTELS. SCRATCHING THE HOTELS, REALLY. BECAUSE TRUE HOTELS ARE ALL OVER AND THERE'S NOT SOME SIGNIFICANT HOTEL REALLY ON THE HARBOR. IT'S FUNNY, THE EXISTING ONE SAYS PORTOFINO INN WHICH I ALWAYS WONDERED HOW THEY GOT AWAY WITH THAT. SO YEAH, NO HOTELS WOULD BE FINE. I THINK A HEAVIER FONT COULD BE NICE. I LIKE THE SHORTER WORDING IF IT SEEMS COMICALLY LONG TO ME THAT SECOND SIGN. SO EVEN JUST TO CUT OUT 1 OR 2 OF THEM, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW. THE OTHER THING, MAYOR LIGHT YOU SAID WATERCRAFT RENTALS VERSUS BOATING. [01:35:02] I AGREE WITH THAT. IF WE IF WATERCRAFT RENTALS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SELECTED OR ANY KIND OF BOATING THING. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI MADE THE POINT ABOUT IT IS A HARBOR. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, SAYS KING HARBOR SO TRUE BOATING TAKES PLACE AND WATERCRAFT EVENTS TAKE PLACE DOWN THERE. IT'S KIND OF IMPLIED AND GEORGETTE GANTNER MENTIONED ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF IT, AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY TOO STRUCTURALLY COMPROMISING MAYBE. BUT IF POSSIBLE, IF WE'RE REFURBISHING IT, CAN WE MAKE IT SHORTER? AND MAYBE THAT WOULD SUSTAIN WEATHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS WELL. I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU. LAURA. ANYONE ELSE? YES, MAYOR. CHARLENE CONNOR, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. HI. YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES. HEY THANKS SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE CALL. I WASN'T SURE HOW I WAS GOING TO SHARE IT HERE. ANYWAYS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE REDONDO BEACH SIGN. YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN. I'M NOT A LIFE TIME, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT OF REDONDO. MY KIDS HAVE GONE TO REDONDO SCHOOLS. THEY GRADUATED FROM REDONDO UNION. AND I DO HAVE AN AFFINITY TOWARDS THE CURRENT REDONDO BEACH SIGN. I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT, I APPRECIATE AND, YOU KNOW, I ALSO KNOW JORDIS SHE'S AN AWESOME PERSON AND I RESPECT HER AS A DESIGNER. HOWEVER, IN ONE OF THE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO NAME NAMES, BUT THERE IS. SORRY, I'M GETTING FLUSTERED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRACKER BARREL LOGO AND HOW IT WAS SORT OF MODERNIZED AND ALL THE CHARACTER WAS TAKEN OUT OF IT, AND THERE WAS A HUGE BACKLASH. NO ONE LIKED IT. AND IT WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LOGO BECAUSE OF THE FAMILIARITY WITH THE LOGO. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THE LOGO SHOULD. YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE EXISTING LOGO. THE REDONDO BEACH LOGO. BUT AS FAR AS THE SIGN GOES, I STAND BEHIND THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE PROPOSED IT BE A HISTORIC LANDMARK. SO I'M WITH THEM ON THAT. AND AGAIN, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? COUPLE MORE MAYOR. JENNIFER OKAMURA, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. OKAY JENNIFER. I'M SO SORRY. ARE YOU THERE JENNIFER? OKAY. YEAH I'M SORRY JENNIFER, YOU'RE BREAKING UP. WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. JENNIFER, I APOLOGIZE. YOU'RE COMING THROUGH GARBLED AND WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. LET'S GO TO SOMEONE ELSE AND TRY TO COME BACK TO HER TO SEE IF WE CAN. OKAY, NICHOLAS BERGE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. OKAY YOU THERE NICHOLAS? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE. AWESOME. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. MUCH APPRECIATED. I, TOO AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH. WENT TO SCHOOLS HERE, WIFE WORKS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. DAUGHTER GOES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I THINK, YEAH, THE SIGN NEEDS REPAIR AND I GET IT. IT'S IN THE BUDGET, SO WE DON'T NEED TO WASTE TIME TALKING ABOUT. IS THIS A WASTE OF MONEY OR NOT? I THINK THE BIGGER THING IS WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THIS SIGN. I GET THAT THERE'S THIS WANT TO MODERNIZE THINGS. AND AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, IF WE NEED TO REBRAND CITY LOGOS, LET'S DO THAT. THIS ISN'T A CITY LOGO. THIS IS A LANDMARK. IT'S AN ICON. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THE ONLINE PRESENCE, BUT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. I'VE EMAILED SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING MY OPINION ON THIS. DIDN'T HEAR BACK. THANKS FOR THE REPLY, BY THE WAY. BUT PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE THIS TATTOOED ON THEM. I HAVE A CHRISTMAS ORNAMENT ON MY TREE THAT I AM LOOKING AT OF THE SIGN AS IT IS TODAY AS WE TALK YOU KNOW, THE TALKING POINT OF THE SIGNS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. THINGS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, MODEST UPDATES HAVE BEEN MADE. IT HAS NOT CHANGED. IT'S KIND OF A I THINK IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD POINT. I CAN GO ON GOOGLE RIGHT NOW AND SEARCH THE REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR SIGN. AND THERE'S A PICTURE FROM 1969 THAT ABSOLUTELY LOOKS THE SAME AS IT IS, MINUS THE FLAGPOLES. THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL AS THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE YOU GUYS, [01:40:03] REPRESENT US. THIS ISN'T YOUR DECISION TO MAKE. I THINK YOU NEED TO BE LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THERE'S ONLINE PETITIONS, GOT WELL OVER 2000 SIGNATURES NOW. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF BLOWBACK THAT I SEE ON INSTAGRAM. ON FACEBOOK, EVEN THE EASY READERS RUN ARTICLES IN THE COMMENTS SECTION IS RIDDLED WITH PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS IS NOT NECESSARY. SO IF WE NEED TO FIX IT UP, LET'S FIX IT UP. I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY BRIGHT DECISION FOR FIVE OF YOU BECAUSE YOU GUYS LIKE A NEW GOOGLE GENERATED FONT, AND THAT LOOKS GREAT. AND IT MATCHES MANHATTAN BEACH AND HERMOSA BEACH'S GENERIC LOGOS. LIKE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE THEM. WE'RE OUR OWN CITY. THAT SIGN HAS A LOT OF CHARACTER. IT HAS A LOT OF MEANING, AND I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY BAD MOVE ON YOUR PART TO GO AGAINST YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WHO ARE CLEARLY VOCALIZING THAT THEY WANT YOU TO REPRESENT THEM AND NOT CHANGE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO OTHER ZOOM ATTENDEES ARE THERE FOUR ECOMMENTS, THREE OPPOSE AND ONE NEUTRAL. DID YOU WANT TO TRY TO GO BACK TO THE. I CAN TRY JENNIFER. JENNIFER, IF YOU WANT TO TRY ONE MORE TIME. JENNIFER. OKAY. I THINK SHE WAS WILLING TO GIVE UP ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED. THANK YOU MAYOR. I SAW YOUR PHOTOS, BY THE WAY, AND I WOULD LOVE IF THE MAYOR WOULD SEND THIS PHOTOS OF THE STRUCTURE TO THE CLERK SO IT CAN BE DOCUMENTED IN HISTORY. WHAT DAMAGE, RUST THERE IS. AND DEGRADATION OF THE SIGN EXISTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY TELLING PHOTOS. I WILL SAY THE FACT THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN, DEDICATING YOUR EVENING TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT AND YOUR STRONG FEELINGS WHICH ARE WELL RECEIVED. I'LL SAY THIS THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH. FIRST WITH THE LOGO, I EMAILED THIS LOGO OUT TO MY TO MY NEIGHBORS, THOUSANDS OF THEM, WHEN IT WAS IN FORMATION. WHEN WE WERE GOING WITH THE ONE SALE. EVENTUALLY WE MOVED AWAY FROM THE SHARK FIN, MOVED INTO THE DOUBLE SALE. SINCE WE'VE STARTED TO PUT THAT LOGO AROUND THE CITY, I'VE BEEN, IT'S BEEN AFFIRMED TO ME, CONFIRMED THAT THIS LOGO WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE. RESIDENTS ARE COMPLIMENTING THE SIGNS. THEY LOVE THE STREET SIGNS THAT ARE COMING UP. THE PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES LOVE WHEN THEY'RE REPLACING THE SIGNS AND PUTTING UP THESE NEW SIGNS AND RECEIVING COMPLIMENTS ABOUT THEM. I WAS AT LET IT SNOW ON SATURDAY, AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT RECREATIONAL SPECIALISTS, WERE WEARING THE LOGO ON THEIR BLUE SHIRTS. THEY LOOKED GREAT. I WAS WITH ANOTHER FATHER WHO IS ON THE LA 28 OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, AND HE SAID, OH, THAT'S THE CITY LOGO. THAT LOOKS AWESOME. AND HE ALWAYS ASKED ME, WHAT'S COOKING IN THE CITY? I SAID, OH, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THE KING HARBOR SIGN DISCUSSION. OH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? OH, PUT IT PUT THAT LOGO IN THERE. OH YEAH. THAT'S A GREAT TIMELESS LOGO. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT BRANDING. OKAY. ONE COMMENT BRO. I EMAIL THOUSANDS ABOUT 9,000. THAT'S ENOUGH. 9,000. YOU'RE BEING WARNED. HOLD ON. YOU'RE BEING WARNED, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. AND IF YOU CONTINUE THIS, WE WILL ASK YOU TO LEAVE. I'LL LEAVE ON MY OWN BRO. THANK YOU. MY EMAIL. IF WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS RESPECTFULLY. THIS DRAFT SIGN WENT OUT TO 9,000 RESIDENTS. ZERO RESPONDED TO ME IN THE LAST MONTH SAYING, DO NOT CHANGE THE SIGN. LASTLY, WE ALSO PUT IT ON SOCIAL. I PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 114,000 VIEWS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WERE ATTAINED FOR THIS REFRESHING OF THE SIGN THAT WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN RESPONSES HERE. SOME OPPOSED IS TELLING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACEBOOK COMMENTS, FACEBOOK SUMMARIZES THE COMMENTS FOR YOU. THERE ARE OVER 200 FACEBOOK COMMENTS. SOME PEOPLE SUGGEST KEEPING THE SIGN AS IS. MANY PEOPLE SUPPORT OPTIONS 3 AND 7 AT THE TIME YOU LOOK AT INSTAGRAM, THE COMMENTS ARE MUCH MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REFRESHING OF THE SIGN. SO I THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN, DEDICATING YOUR TIME AND BEING INTERESTED IN THIS. I WOULD ALSO ASK, BY THE WAY, SAID MR. CITY MANAGER, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WHEN THE MIDDLE LIFESAVER RING AND BOAT ARE TAKEN DOWN, THAT IT'S PRESERVED AND POTENTIALLY PUT IN OUR HISTORIC MUSEUM? SURE. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD ASK THAT THAT OCCUR ALSO, WOULD YOU INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR MOTION DIRECTING STAFF? OH, SURE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. [01:45:01] 02,000 SIGNATURES. THAT'S ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. THAT'S IT THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. YEAH, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YES, THERE IS THAT CHANGE.ORG WITH 2,000 SIGNATURES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI JUST SAID. THE CITY SPENT OVER A YEAR, I BELIEVE, ON THE LOGO DESIGN. THE CITY HAS NEVER HAD A TRADEMARKED LOGO BEFORE. AND WHEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN ICONIC, MEMORABLE, COHESIVE DESIGN, I DO THINK THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START TO ASSOCIATE OUR NEW LOGO WITH REDONDO BEACH WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BY AT 35 MILES AN HOUR, HOPEFULLY. PASS THAT SIGN THEY NEED AT A GLANCE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AS REDONDO BEACH. YOU KNOW, I'M AMBIVALENT ABOUT THE FONT, WHETHER WE GO WITH THE SANS SERIF OR SERIF FONT. BUT PEOPLE I DID TALK TO TALKED ABOUT DRIVING PAST THE SIGN THEY LITERALLY WERE SAYING, WHEN I DRIVE PAST IT, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT I CAN SEE AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE SIGHT WORDS. I CAN SEE IT, KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND THEY THOUGHT THE SANS SERIF FONT WAS EASIER TO READ AND MORE COMPREHENSIBLE. THAT SAID, I'M NOT LOCKED INTO THAT FONT, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS HERE ABOUT IT. OBVIOUSLY THE CHANGE.ORG NOBODY WANTS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CHANGED. BUT THERE ARE, I GUESS, MAYBE LESS VOCAL PEOPLE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO IN PERSON. SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI HAS SPOKEN TO IN PERSON THAT FEEL THAT THE SIGN IS OKAY. CHANGE IS OKAY. I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GREW UP HERE IN REDONDO, AND VERY FEW OF THEM COULD IDENTIFY WHAT WAS IN THAT RING, THAT THERE WAS A LIFE RING. THE ONES THAT COULD SAID, IT'S A SAILBOAT. AND I SAID, WHAT ELSE? WHAT ELSE, WHAT OTHER DETAILS? AND THEY COULDN'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT WAS THE SAILBOAT IN THE OCEAN WITH CLOUDS OR WHETHER IT WAS HILLS BEHIND IT, BUILDINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ARE BEHIND IT, WHICH IS WHAT IT REALLY IS. SO I DO FEEL THAT HAVING A COHESIVE DESIGN THAT USES OUR LOGO AS THAT CENTERPIECE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I LIKE HAVING HOTELS AND DINING IN THE LOWER PART, BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR BIGGEST REVENUE GENERATORS IN FOR THE HARBOR AREA AND HONESTLY, FOR A LOT OF THE CITY. SO HAVING HOTELS AND DINING I THINK IS IMPORTANT. AND A QUESTION POSSIBLY FOR CITY MANAGER OR POSSIBLY FOR STAFF TO LOOK INTO LATER, EVEN IF WE DO CHANGE THAT CENTER THING. IS IT STILL POSSIBLE TO DESIGNATE THIS AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK? OR DOES IT DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT IDENTICAL GRAPHIC FOR IT TO BE A 50 YEAR OLD LANDMARK? BECAUSE THE GRAPHIC HAS CHANGED. IT'S CHANGED MINORLY. SO I DO SUPPORT HAVING THAT AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE THAT OUR SMALL CHANGES MADE TO THAT SIGN. SO IF WE COULD HAVE THAT, NOT TONIGHT, BUT IF WE COULD HAVE THAT ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. HOWEVER, IT ENDS UP LOOKING WHEN WE'RE DONE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT ANSWER. YEAH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LANDMARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT YOU PERHAPS YOU COULD LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE SIGN, THE SILHOUETTE, THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN DRIVING UNDER IT FOR YEARS. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER APPROACHES TO THE LANDMARKING PROCESS ASIDE FROM JUST THE MEDALLION GRAPHIC IN THE MIDDLE. BUT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT RESPONSE TO YOU AT A LATER DATE. YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED IN CITIES THAT ARE OLDER THAN REDONDO, BOSTON, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEIR LOOKS OF SIGNS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIMES TOO YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE SIGN TO THE CITY OF BOSTON DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME TODAY AS IT DID IN 16, WHATEVER. 17, WHATEVER. 18 WHATEVER. BOSTON COMMON A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED NOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CITGO SIGN IN BOSTON THAT HASN'T CHANGED, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF CITGO EXISTS ANYMORE [LAUGHTER] SO THAT'S MORE OF A JUST HISTORIC PRESERVATION THING THAT THEY'VE GOT THERE. IT'S NOT BRANDING BOSTON AT THAT POINT. THAT'S BRANDING CITGO AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE IT. SO FROM A BRANDING STANDPOINT I DO LIKE KEEPING OUR LOGO THERE. IF PEOPLE WANTED TO CHANGE THE FONT EITHER WAY, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. I SENSE WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE, BUT. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER? NO. OKAY COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. NO I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SENTIMENT, WE DO REPRESENT NEARLY 70,000 RESIDENTS. AND HAVING A PULSE ON WHAT THAT IS CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES. [01:50:03] BUT WE DO HAVE OUTREACH. WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE HAVE NEWSLETTERS THAT GO OUT TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THOSE COMING DOWN TO SPEAK TO US, TO EMAIL US ARE IN THE CONTRARY OF SOMETHING. AND YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE GENERALLY SILENT IN THAT WAY. NOT THAT THEY HAVEN'T EXPRESSED THEIR OPINION IN IT TO US DIRECTLY, BUT ARE NOT HERE AT THE PODIUM. SO THAT IS OUR CHARGE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMUNITY'S SENTIMENT IS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE ARE THOSE THAT FEEL STRONGLY ON BOTH SIDES. I DO THINK THAT THIS THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE MODERATE CHANGES. I THINK THE SIGN STRUCTURE IS, IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THE FONT GIVE HOMAGE TO THE OLD SIGN, BUT I'M NOT. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY COMPROMISE ON THAT. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH THE WORDING. I THINK I PREFER THAT IN OPTION 2 FOR THE LOWER SIGN. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. JUST TO REITERATE WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, WE'VE ALL RECEIVED VARIOUS EMAILS. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE PETITION ONLINE, AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THE PETITION ACTUALLY DID CONTACT US DIRECTLY VIA EMAIL WITH COMMENTS THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THE SIGN WAS BEING TORN DOWN, WHICH IS NOT. THAT THE SIGN SHOULDN'T BE EVEN REPAINTED, IT SHOULD BE JUST LEFT ALONE AS IT IS, WHICH IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD IN 2003. AND I THINK JUST ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THE CITY LOGO TAKING INPUT FROM OUR GRAPHIC DESIGNER WHO'S WORKED FOR THE CITY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ON VARIOUS PROJECTS. I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION 2 AND 2, WHICH WAS THE PROPOSAL THAT'S ON THE TABLE. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE. I THINK WE'VE BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR OPTION 2 AND OPTION 2. AND PRESERVE. AND TO PRESERVE THE IF WE CAN PRESERVE THE PLASTIC AND TAKE IT UP TO THE MUSEUM AFTERWARDS. AND THERE'S TWO OF THOSE, RIGHT? ONE ON EACH SIDE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING WITH OPTION 2 AND OPTION 2. AND THANKS TO JORDIS. YES. THANK YOU JANE. OKAY. GOING TO N.2 THIS IS ABOUT TRAFFIC STRIPING MODS TO DIAMOND STREET BETWEEN PCH AND PROSPECT TO IMPROVE ACCESS AND TRACK TRAFFIC FLOW NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE'VE GOT ANDY AND RYAN COVERING THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER POWERPOINT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT AFTER ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF YEARS OF STUDY AND CONSULTATION WITH VARIOUS GROUPS. RYAN IS GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION ADDRESSING TRAFFIC PATTERNS AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL AND IMPROVEMENT POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR ALL THE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THE KIDS ARE USING. PARENTS ARE USING TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND LEAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL AREA. SO, RYAN, GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RYAN LIU, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THIS IS ABOUT RESTRIPING ON DIAMOND BETWEEN PCH AND PROSPECT AND WAYS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL. ALSO LOOKING AT THE SOUTH FRONTAGE CURB SPACE CLOSER TO VINCENT STREET. SO JUST AS SOME BACKGROUND WE'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS, SPEEDING AND SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT SCHOOL TIME CONGESTION. SO THIS IS A DROP OFF THE PICKUP PERIODS ON CITY STREETS AROUND REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL. IN THE 2024-2025 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET MOTION, THERE WAS A DIRECTION TO STUDY THIS ISSUE AND TO COME UP WITH ANY CHANGES AND POTENTIAL SLURRY SEAL PROJECT TO IMPROVE THE CIRCULATION AND TRAFFIC AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THE CITY STAFF ENGINEERING HIRED A CONSULTANT TO PERFORM DATA COLLECTION, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, OBSERVATIONS, ANALYSIS AND DESIGN UP TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. WE ARE CURRENTLY PREPARED THE CONCEPT DESIGN LOOKING FOR THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO PROCEED MOVING FORWARD. IF APPROVED, THESE CHANGES CAN BE INCORPORATED IN A FUTURE SLURRY SEAL PROJECT FOR DIAMOND. OH, AND THE YELLOW RECTANGLE. HERE IS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT DIAMOND BETWEEN PCH AND PROSPECT. AND WE ALSO ANALYZE THE SORT OF SCHOOL ENTRY ACCESS POINTS EL REDONDO EAST AND WEST AND VINCENT PARK IN THE MIDDLE. [01:55:11] ALL THIS STUDY. COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE IF I COULD QUICKLY INTERRUPT. IF NOT MAYOR I COULD WAIT. GO AHEAD. SURE. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THE RECTANGLE ABOVE VINCENT STREET. THIS THE LONG ONE. NO DOWN BELOW ON VINCENT STREET. RIGHT. YEAH, ON THE THIS ONE HERE. YOU STUDIED THIS AREA? YES. WE ALSO DID OBSERVATIONS IN THAT AREA. DOES THIS STREET CONTINUE THROUGH TO THE DIAMOND? NO, IT DOES NOT. WELL, THERE'S. A BARRIER. BARRIER? THERE'S A BARRIER BETWEEN IN THE MIDDLE. SO YES, IT'S PERMANENTLY CLOSED BY. NORTH OF THE BARRIER IS ACTUALLY NOT RIGHT OF WAY NORTH OF THE BARRIER IS SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY. DID YOU LOOK AT ALL AT THE POTENTIAL FOR A FLOW THROUGH THERE? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE ONLY. I JUST SAW WHAT YOU. YEAH. ONLY ONLY HALF OF THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CITY'S PROPERTY. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT. CIRCULATION THROUGH AND WHAT HAVE YOU. WE'LL GET INTO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO ALL THIS ANALYSIS IS CULMINATES IN THIS REDONDO UNION HIGH ACCESS STUDY AND DESIGN REPORT. THIS WAS THE REPORT THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE PROJECT CONSULTANT, REVIEWED BY CITY AND RBUSD STAFF. IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE SINCE MID-OCTOBER FOR ANYONE TO VIEW. A LINK WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET. WHEN WE DID THE PUBLIC NOTICING FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, A LINK WAS SENT VIA QR CODE DIRECTLY TO THOSE RESIDENTS, SO EVERYONE WHO WAS LIVING AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL GOT ACCESS TO THE REPORT. SO THIS REPORT WAS NOT HIDDEN IN ANY WAY. IT'S ALSO CIRCULATED WITH THE DISTRICT TWO COUNCIL MEMBER. THE GENERAL FLOW OF THIS REPORT TALKS ABOUT WHY WE DID THIS STUDY. THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED, PARKING, TRAFFIC VOLUMES, TRAVEL SPEEDS, CRASHES, THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS PERFORMED, SUMMARY OF THE KEY SAFETY ISSUES THAT WERE OBSERVED IN OUR SITE OBSERVATIONS AND THE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AND THE TRAFFIC DATA. AND IT CAME DOWN TO A SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS AND A FULL COMPENDIUM APPENDICES. SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT WE FOUND BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED NOT SURPRISING, HIGH PARKING UTILIZATION ALONG DIAMOND STREET WEST OF DEL AMO STREET, JUANITA DURING THE PEAK SCHOOL PERIOD, SO THEY COLLECTED THIS DATA ON A PEAK WEEKDAY WHEN SCHOOL WAS FULLY IN SESSION. THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT FOUR PARKING SPACES OPEN ON DIAMOND WEST OF DEL AMO STREET. THERE WAS MUCH LOWER UTILIZATION EAST OF DEL AMO. ABOUT 68 SPACES THAT WERE AVAILABLE AS YOU GET FURTHER AWAY FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE ALSO NOTICED SIGNIFICANT CYCLISTS AND DRIVER CONFLICTS AT SEA HAWK WAY, ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE COMING FROM PROSPECT. DRIVERS TURNING LEFT INTO THE SCHOOL TO TO DO DROP OFFS WITH A LOT OF CYCLISTS COMING FROM NORTH REDONDO TRYING TO TURN INTO THE SCHOOL. THE MAJORITY OF THE BIKE PARKING IS ALSO ON SEA HAWK WAY, AND THEY'RE MIXING IN THAT SAME LEFT TURN LANE. SO WE WILL SHOW A SOLUTION FOR THAT. WE ALSO WE PERFORM TRAFFIC COUNTS AND WE ACTUALLY SAW MORE CYCLISTS THAN DRIVERS MAKING THAT LEFT TURN, WHICH IT WAS QUITE AMAZING TO SEE. WE ALSO SAW LOTS OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT DIAMOND AND DEL AMO. THAT'S A CRITICAL CROSSWALK AND GATEWAY TO THE SCHOOL AREA. DURING THOSE PEAK BIKE FLOWS, BECAUSE OF THE SIGNALS AT PROSPECT AND DIAMOND, YOU SEE LARGE GROUPS OF CYCLISTS KIND OF TRYING TO SQUEEZE INTO THAT NARROW BIKE LANE, MAYBE SOMEWHERE PASSING CARS OR PASSING OTHER CYCLISTS SO THAT THE CURRENT BIKE LANES ARE NOT ABSORBING THE CURRENT DEMAND OF ALL THE STUDENTS. WE ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE, THE AVERAGE SPEEDS OF DRIVERS ALONG THE STREET WERE GENERALLY WITHIN THE SPEED LIMITS. SO 30MPH OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS AND 25MPH DURING THE WHEN YOUTH ARE PRESENT DURING THE PICKUP DROP OFF PERIODS, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHEN TRAFFIC IS SLOWER. SO WE DID SEE THAT DIP IN THE AVERAGE TRAVEL SPEEDS. LOOKING AT THE COLLISIONS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THERE WERE 17 CRASHES ALONG THE SCHOOLS FRONTAGES. SO DIAMOND ALONG VINCENT EL REDONDO, ETC. NOT SURPRISINGLY, MOST OF THOSE MORE OF THOSE CRASHES OCCURRED DURING THE SCHOOL PICKUP DROP OFF PERIODS WHEN TRAFFIC IS HEAVIEST. ONE PARTICULAR TAKEAWAY WAS THAT IF A CRASH INVOLVED INJURIES, THEY WERE MORE LIKELY TO INVOLVE CYCLISTS. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF A CYCLIST BEING MORE EXPOSED COMPARED TO A DRIVER IN A VEHICLE. WE PERFORMED EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF FOR THIS PROJECT THROUGH STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. SO THESE STAKEHOLDERS CONSIST OF CITY STAFF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE PTA AND TWO STUDENTS THAT WE CHOSE FROM THE REDONDO BEACH YOUTH COMMISSION, ONE WHO WAS DRIVING OR BEING DRIVEN TO SCHOOL, AND ONE STUDENT WHO EITHER WALKS OR BIKES TO SCHOOL. [02:00:04] SO WE GET THE PERSPECTIVES OF THE TWO MAIN TYPES OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ATTENDING THE HIGH SCHOOL AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE YOUTH COMMISSION. WE ALSO HAD AN ONLINE COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE DISTRICT TWO. DISTRICT TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR ABOUT 20 ATTENDEES, MOSTLY NEIGHBORS AROUND THE SCHOOL. THE FIGURE TO THE RIGHT SHOWS THAT THE GENERAL NOTICING AREA THAT WE DID FOR THIS PROJECT. SO IT'S ALL OF DIAMOND BETWEEN PCH AND PROSPECT, UP TO CARNELIAN GOING DOWN INTO DEL AMO, AND A LIMITED AREA ALONG VINCENT. SINCE WE WERE, WE NEVER INTENDED TO PROPOSE THAT MANY CHANGES ON THE VINCENT SIDE. IT'S NOT QUITE AS MUCH ACTIVITY OR SPACE TO WORK WITH. HERE'S A GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PHASE. A TYPICAL CONCERNS ABOUT CYCLISTS AND DRIVER BEHAVIOR AT STOP SIGNS, CROSSWALK SAFETY. WE SEE A LOT OF BUS RIDERS CROSSING OUTSIDE CROSSWALKS WHEN YOU KNOW CLOSEST TO THE BUS STOP, THEY JUST WANT TO GET INTO SCHOOL QUICKLY. WE NEED MORE BIKE PARKING. THERE'S A LOT OF BIKES THAT ARE PARKED ON THE SIDEWALKS. IT'S JUST THAT'S SOMETHING. WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCHOOLS AS WELL. AND PARENTS PARKING WHEREVER THEY CAN FIND SPACE. SOMETIMES NOT IN PARKING SPACES. HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE TWO FIGURES TO THE LEFT WILL ZOOM IN ON ON THE NEXT SLIDES, BUT THEY GENERALLY INCLUDE YOU KNOW, WEST OF DEL AMO. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO LIMIT THE PARKING LOTS. THE PARKING UTILIZATION IS VERY HIGH. SO WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING ONE PARKING SPOT TO BE REMOVED WEST OF DEL AMO. AND IN PLACE OF THAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS LIMITED SECTIONS OF PROTECTED BIKE LANE TO PROTECT THAT BIKE LANE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE WEAVING OF PARKED CARS TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY WHERE WE CAN'T FIT THE PROTECTED BIKE LANE WE'LL PROPOSE BUFFERED BIKE LANES. SO JUST TO INCREASE THE SPACE BETWEEN THE DRIVING LANES AND THE BIKE LANES, WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO DO THIS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION ON DIAMOND, BUT THE LANES ARE FAIRLY WIDE. THEY DO ENCOURAGE HIGHER SPEEDS. WE CAN NARROW THEM TO MORE APPROPRIATE WIDTHS CONDUCIVE TO A SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT AND INCREASE THAT BUFFER SPACE FOR CYCLISTS. ONCE WE GO EAST OF DEL AMO, WE CAN AFFORD A BIT MORE PARKING LOTS AND STILL BE WITHIN THE AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL PEAK PARKING DEMAND. AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN ALSO PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, A MIX OF BUFFERED AND PROTECTED BIKE LANES. THESE PICTURES ON THE SIDE ALSO SHOW MODULAR CURB EXTENSIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AT DEL AMO JUANITA INTERSECTION. THE STUDENT WHO WALKED TO SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR FELT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CHAOTIC TRYING TO CROSS ALL THE LANES OF TRAFFIC AT THE STOP SIGN, MULTIPLE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION. WE PERFORMED AN ANALYSIS AND FOUND THAT JUST HAVING SINGLE LANE APPROACHES AT THAT STOP SIGN IS ADEQUATE FOR EVEN FOR SCHOOL TRAFFIC. AND OF COURSE, WHEN THERE'S NO SCHOOL TRAFFIC, IT'S A LOT QUIETER. AND SO THESE CURB EXTENSIONS WILL HELP WITH VISIBILITY, HELP BREAK UP THE LANES SO THAT STUDENTS CROSSING CAN JUST FOCUS ON ONE DIRECTION AT A TIME, AND IT REMOVES SOME UNNECESSARY ROADWAY SPACE. WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONAL BIKE PARKING NEAR THE STARBUCKS, TO HELP ENCOURAGE THE STUDENTS TO STAY ON THE STREET AND NOT BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK. HOPEFULLY THAT ABSORBS SOME OF THE DEMAND OF STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING FOR MORNING OR AFTERNOON COFFEE. ORIGINALLY FOR THIS PROJECT, WE WERE PROPOSING AN EXPANSION OF THE PICKUP DROP OFF ZONE IN VINCENT PARK. DURING THE MEETINGS, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THE COMMISSION MEETINGS ALL THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ON VINCENT PARK EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO EXPANDING PICKUP DROP OFF OPERATIONS ON VINCENT PARK. SO WE'VE KIND OF PULLED THAT BACK A BIT. AND WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE ZONE AT THIS TIME. SO GENERALLY ON THE VINCENT SIDE, NOT PROPOSING MUCH OF ANY CHANGES WHERE WE CAN FIT SOME ADDITIONAL BIKE RACKS. I THINK THAT'S THAT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO ADD. AND JUST AS A SIDE, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT'S QUESTION THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PROPOSING A NEW PICKUP DROP OFF ZONE ON FRANCISCA JUST SOUTH OF DIAMOND. SO THE CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY LINE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT UP ON DIAMOND STREET. ONCE YOU ENTER FRANCISCA AS YOU KIND OF VEER TOWARDS THE AUDITORIUM BAND ROOM AREA THAT'S TOTALLY ON THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY, THAT PARKING AREA. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A PICK UP DROP OFF IN THAT AREA. THE DESIGN IS NOT YET FINALIZED, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THE CITY PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND THE SCHOOL PROJECT WILL HARMONIZE WITH EACH OTHER. HARMONIZE? YES. SO THAT THEY DON'T CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, I THINK WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE SAFETY, MAKE THAT PICK UP DROP OFF ZONE AS USABLE AS POSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSEST TO PCH. AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE EL REDONDO SIDE. SO ONCE IT PASSES THROUGH THAT BARRICADE AND THE FIRST SCHOOL PARKING LOT. ONCE SHE STARTS SEEING THAT FIRST HOME ON EL REDONDO WEST, THAT'S WHEN IT RETURNS BACK TO CITY PROPERTY. AND WE'RE HOPING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE SCHOOL ON HOW THAT FLOWS TOGETHER. [02:05:03] WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ON YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE SINCE ULTIMATELY THAT SPACE IS WITHIN THE SCHOOL'S CONTROL, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM AND JUST COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR BOTH PARTIES. SOLUTION THAT WORKS. YES. JUST FROM A PURELY TRAFFIC AND. GO AHEAD. TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC FLOW PERSPECTIVE, WOULD IT HELP TO. TO HAVE THIS AREA OPEN TO ALLOW INSTEAD OF CARS COMING IN AND YOU TURNING OUT TO LET THEM DROP OFF AND THEN EXIT ON VINCENT DOWN TO PCH? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? JUST FROM A PURELY PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT? YEAH, THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT THAT TO KIND OF CREATE THAT LARGE ONE WAY FLOW IN ONE STREET, OUT ON THE OTHER STREET. YES. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION. SOMETHING YOU'D BE IN FAVOR OF IF THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. WE DON'T CONTROL THE PROPERTY. YEAH, I THINK WE'D BE FAVORABLE TO THAT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. YES OF COURSE. AND OF COURSE YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO WE'VE BEEN EXPRESSING THOSE SENTIMENTS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'VE ALSO I'VE ALSO PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME LEVEL OF GRAPHICS AND ASSISTANCE TO THEM TO THAT REGARD. GOOD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT POINT, SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION. ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT THERE ARE NO PICKUP ZONES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, I'M SORRY, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO CREATING THAT ONE WAY TRAFFIC FROM DIAMOND ONTO FRANCISCA BACK TO VINCENT WOULD CREATE A DROP OFF ZONE. AND WHAT HAPPENS THAT GIVES PARENTS ENOUGH SPACE TO PARK AND WAIT FOR THEIR KIDS TO COME OUT OF SCHOOL, WHERE RIGHT NOW THE PARENTS HAVE TO WAIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT CREATES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT PEOPLE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS OR PARKING ON THEIR STREETS ON GERTRUDA, GUADALUPE AND FRANCISCA AND HELBERTA. SO I THINK IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WOULD APPRECIATE THAT? SO I THINK IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS OPEN TO THAT, THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO ALLEVIATING A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AT PICKUP TIME. AND EVEN IF THEY JUST OPENED IT UP, SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR IN THE MORNING AND AN HOUR IN THE AFTERNOON DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFF, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVING IT CLOSED AND PUSHING ALL OF THE PICKUP OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT THAT CAUSES. SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WERE OPEN TO THAT IDEA. YEAH. ON THAT NOTE, IF REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A SCHEMATIC OR SMALL PRESENTATION ON THE BENEFITS OF THAT TRAFFIC FLOW COMING FROM DIAMOND THROUGH FRANCISCA TO EL REDONDO AND OUT ON VINCENT? I ALREADY DID. OKAY. [LAUGHTER] DO YOU HAVE THAT HERE TONIGHT? NO, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. BECAUSE WHAT THIS PROJECT IS LOOKING AT THINGS IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. AND WHILE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN DESIGN, IF THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE TONIGHT, THAT'S WE WILL INCORPORATE WHAT THE SCHOOL WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE INTO OUR DESIGN. BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY OUR PROPERTY, THAT'S WHY THAT SPECIFIC FLOW OF THAT PICKUP DROP OFF WAS NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THIS WORK. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING, REGARDLESS OF WHICH, WHETHER THEY RUN IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR THEY DO THE TURNAROUND LIKE THEY'RE PLANNING WOULD NOT IMPACT THE DESIGN YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TONIGHT? WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE SOME TWEAKS BASED ON THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AS COLLABORATIVELY AS WE CAN, GIVEN THAT THERE'S TWO PROPERTY OWNERS. THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST THAT INTERSECTION, PRIMARILY THAT FRANCISCA AND DIAMOND INTERSECTION. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANYTHING FURTHER TO THE EAST. OKAY. THAT'S IT. JUST IF APPROPRIATE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN DRAFT. WELL, IF YOU SHARED IT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF YOU COULD SHARE IT WITH US, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR AT LEAST THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT IN MIND. SPEAKING TO THE PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT RYAN PREPARED. YEAH, WE COULD GET IT. YES WE CAN. I BELIEVE WE SHARED IT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL. SO WE CAN CIRCULATE THAT TO THE FULL COUNCIL COMMITTEE. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. EITHER AS A BLUE FOLDER OR OTHERWISE. OKAY. YEAH. SO SO THESE ARE THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING MOSTLY ON DIAMOND STREET. THIS NEXT SLIDE ZOOMS INTO ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE WITH THE LEFT TURNS. SO WE FORTUNATELY DO HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ON DIAMOND STREET TO PROVIDE BOTH THE LEFT TURN LANE FOR BIKES AND FOR CARS. SO IN THIS FIGURE, YOU CAN SEE AS DRIVERS ARE COMING IN MAKING THAT LEFT TURN, WE'RE ACTUALLY EXTENDING THAT LEFT TURN LANE TO TO QUEUE UP INTO SEA HAWK WAY. THE SCHOOL IS AMENABLE TO REMOVING THAT METAL FENCE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR DRIVEWAY HERE TO PROVIDE SOME MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT ALLOWS US TO ADD A SPECIFIC BIKE LEFT TURN LANE IN THIS GREEN THAT GOES FLOWS HERE, AND THEN IT OFFERS MORE DIRECT ACCESS INTO THE BIKE CAGE. [02:10:04] THIS ACTUALLY MIMICS SOME OBSERVATIONS I PERFORMED THIS MORNING WITH THE PRINCIPAL WHERE A LOT OF CYCLISTS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. EVEN THOUGH THE BIKE TURN LANE ISN'T THERE, THEY'RE KIND OF RIDING TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF DRIVERS AND MAKING THAT TURN ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE VEHICLES AND TRYING TO HUG THE CURB ON THE RIGHT. SO. SO THIS DESIGN HERE PROPOSES TO FORMALIZE THAT BEHAVIOR IN A WAY THAT HELPS ORGANIZE THE TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO WHEN THEY EXIT SEA HAWK WAY TO THE GOING UP IN THIS DRAWING THEY HAVE TO TURN RIGHT. CORRECT. OR THEY MAY TURN LEFT IF THEY WISH. SO THIS IS SORT OF A TWO WAY, YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO SCHOOL. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BICYCLISTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CARS. YES. IT'S ACTUALLY CURRENTLY SUPPOSED TO BE A RIGHT TURN ONLY. I THINK THERE WAS A SIGN THAT'S BEEN UP THERE ON AND OFF IN RECENT YEARS. BUT YES, A RIGHT TURN ONLY EXITING FROM SEA HAWK FOR DRIVERS. OKAY. THAT LOOKS VERY COMPLEX. YES, IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLEX. YES, IT DOES LOOK COMPLEX ON THE IF I COULD JUST ASK QUICKLY. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DIAMOND, HEADING WEST, IT NARROWS TO ONE LANE OF CAR TRAFFIC HEADING WEST. IF YOU GO WEST OF. YES. IS THAT CURRENTLY TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC? JUST ONE. IT'S CURRENTLY ONE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. TALKING ABOUT THE BIKE LANE BUFFERS IN THE IMAGE THAT YOU HAD OF THE FULL DIAMOND STREET. IT WAS A BIKE LANE WITH SORT OF A PAINTED MEDIUM BETWEEN THE BIKE LANE AND THE CAR LANE. AND THEN EARLIER YOU MENTIONED THAT AT PEAK HOURS WHEN THE STUDENTS ARE LEAVING THERE'S SO MANY BIKES AT ONE TIME THAT THEY'RE SPILLING OUT OF THE BIKE LANES. DOES THAT BUFFER CREATE EXTRA WIDTH FOR MULTIPLE BIKES TO GO THROUGH ONE TIME OR. YES, IT DOES, IT DOES. IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STAYING WITHIN MOST OF THE BIKE LANE, BUT THAT BUFFER IS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SEPARATION FROM DRIVERS. BUT ALSO IF NEED BE, YOU KNOW, CAN CAN SQUEEZE ANOTHER CYCLIST IN, JUST PROVIDE SOME MORE BREATHING ROOM FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. WHAT DO WE NEED SHARROWS FOR THAT LANE FOR IF WE REALLY GET EXCESS BICYCLES? I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT SHARROWS THERE. YEAH, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO IF YOU GO TO THE TOP OF THAT AND YOU FOLLOW THE BIKE PATH, YOU CAN, WHERE DO YOU JUMP ONTO THAT MIDDLE BIKE PATH? YEAH. SO SO THAT'S AN UNAVOIDABLE PART OF IT IS THAT IF YOU'RE A CYCLIST AND YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, YOU DO NEED TO MERGE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE AND GET INTO THE VEHICLE LANE, TRANSITION OVER TO THIS AREA WHERE YOU FOLLOW THIS GREEN LINE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE LEFT TURN FROM THE MIDDLE. ALTERNATIVELY, IF YOU'RE A CYCLIST, YOU COULD STAY IN THE BIKE LANE, COME UP THIS WAY AND YOU CAN WAIT IN THIS LITTLE AREA HERE AND CROSS AS IF IT WAS A CROSSWALK. SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO IT. OKAY. AND THERE'S WHITE ON THE SAME SIDE. THE WHITE OUTLINED AREAS WITH THE HASH MARKS. THOSE ARE THE ONES OF PARKING YOU REMOVE. AND THOSE ARE THAT'S JUST STRIPING ON THE. YEAH. THIS IS JUST STRIPING. YEAH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE SPACES HERE THAT ARE GETTING REMOVED, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING RELOCATED TO THIS SIDE OVER HERE. BUT ISN'T THAT THE BUS? YEAH. WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO SWITCH THE BUS STOP TO THE OTHER SIDE OF I THINK IT'S HELBERTA. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE CROSSWALK IS SO THAT WHEN THE STUDENTS GET OFF THE BUS, THEY'RE CROSSING BEHIND THE BUS WHERE THE CROSSWALK ACTUALLY IS. CURRENTLY WITH THE BUS STOP OVER HERE, THEY'RE CROSSING IN FRONT OF THE BUS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF VISIBILITY ISSUE, AND THERE'S NO CROSSWALK THERE. WHY DO YOU JUST HAVE STRIPING IN THOSE THREE AREAS INSTEAD OF ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT LANE? WHICH SECTION? THAT YOU'RE POINTING TO WHEN YOU WERE JUST POINTING. IN THIS BUFFER. THERE'S THREE OF THOSE, RIGHT? IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, WHY. AND I ASSUME YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE USING THAT LANE, RIGHT. WHERE'S THAT PARKING. THAT'S PARKING. AND THOSE ARE MULTIFAMILY ALL MULTIFAMILY UNITS. SO PARKING IS GOING TO BE AT A PREMIUM FOR THEM. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT. PARKING SPACES, THERE'S A LONG STRETCH OF DRIVEWAYS AS WELL. YEAH. OH THEIR DRIVEWAYS. YES. THERE'S A VERY WIDE DRIVEWAY HERE. THE GREEN SLASH. YEP. YES. BUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE WHITE DIAMOND THAT. YEAH. THAT'S TO TRANSITION THE BIKE LANE TO THE CURB. YEAH. BUT THEN YOU HAVE ONE IN THE MIDDLE AND ONE ON TO THE LEFT. YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST THE BUFFER. THE GREEN DASHED AREA IS WHERE THERE IS DRIVEWAYS. YES. AND THE NON GREEN AREAS THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES. SOME CURB EXTENSIONS AT THE JUANITA DEL AMO DIAMOND INTERSECTION. AS WE MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT LEFT TURN LANE HERE. [02:15:01] SO REDUCING THIS TO SINGLE LANE APPROACHES SIMPLIFIES THE OPERATIONS FOR THIS INTERSECTION. PROVIDES A LITTLE WAITING AREA IN THE MIDDLE FOR STUDENTS TO CROSS SO THAT THEY'RE JUST CROSSING ONE LANE AT A TIME. AND THEY CAN MAKE THAT EYE CONTACT WITH JUST FOUR DRIVERS RATHER THAN 6 OR 7 OF THEM. AND THIS IS SHOWING WHERE THE BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW, BUFFERED ON THIS SIDE TRANSITIONS TO A SECTION OF PROTECTED BIKE LANE INSTEAD OF A FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE, WE'RE PROPOSING SEVEN FEET. SO THAT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR STUDENTS TO RIDE SIDE BY SIDE, WHICH THEY GENERALLY NATURALLY DO WITH A FRIEND AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, A BUFFERED BIKE LANE, JUST TO PRESERVE MORE OF THE PARKING ON THIS SIDE. AND THESE ARE THE MODULAR CURB EXTENSIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR VISIBILITY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE FRANCESCA? NO, WE DIDN'T DRAW ONE UP FOR FRANCESCA, BUT IT WOULD LOOK. IT SHOULD LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR. YOU KNOW. IT'S A RIGHT TURN ONLY COMING OUT OF FRANCESCA. YES. OR AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE SCHOOL DECIDES THAT PICK UP DROP OFF WILL BE. WE CAN. ASSUMING IT'S THE TURNAROUND. IT WOULD BE A RIGHT TURN ONLY WHEN THEY'RE EXITING. POSSIBLY. WE HAVEN'T. WE HAVEN'T. POSSIBLY. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT. YEAH. THERE'S STILL TIME TO REACT TO AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON THAT. JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A NIGHTMARE IF THERE'S A TON OF TRAFFIC THERE. YEAH. PICK UP AND DROP OFF AND SOME PEOPLE ARE TURNING LEFT. YES. YEAH, YEAH. EVERYBODY BEHIND THEM. WE WERE PROPOSING TO THE SCHOOL TO NOT ALLOW LEFT TURNS IN OR OUT. CAR LEFT TURNS IN OR OUT FROM FRANCESCA THERE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. AND JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE BIKE PARKING. I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE ON THE STREET NEAR THE STARBUCKS, BUT AND WE THIS CAME UP AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING WE HAD ABOUT TALKING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT HAVING BIKE MORE CORRALS ON CAMPUS INSIDE THE GATES, AND SO THAT WAY STUDENTS WON'T BE PARKING ON THE STREET. I'M STILL, I DON'T KNOW, JUST AS YOU KNOW, I USED TO RIDE MORE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE BIKE RACKS ON THE STREET LIKE THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT SEEMS VERY EXPOSED. I'LL SAY TO TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. WHERE IF THE DISTRICT WOULD BUILD A BIKE CORRAL, LITERALLY ON CAMPUS PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SAFER FOR THE BIKES AND THE BIKERS SO. YEAH, WE'VE EXPRESSED THAT TO THE SCHOOL TO ADD MORE BIKE PARKING WITHIN, THEIR GATES. AND I'M SURE THE STUDENTS WOULD PREFER THAT AS WELL. WHATEVER COMES OF THIS FRANCISCA PICKUP DROP OFF AREA, I THINK WE WERE ALSO SUGGESTING TO THE SCHOOL TO PUT ADDITIONAL BIKE PARKING ON THE LOWER PART OF THE CAMPUS AS WELL. THERE IS A SET OF BIKE RACKS AT DIAMOND AND FRANCISCA. THOSE ARE ALSO HEAVILY USED. SO IF THERE'S EXTRA SPACE TO PUT BIKE RACKS THERE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE SCHOOL TO DO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PRIOR PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WERE DONE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO DISTRICT TWO COMMUNITY MEETING AND THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BACK IN OCTOBER HERE WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS RECEIVED AT THOSE MEETINGS. POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE UPGRADED BIKE LANES. YOU KNOW, WE'VE MODIFIED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR VINCENT PARK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED. AND AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED MORE BIKE PARKING FOR FOR SCHOOLS NEAR THE SCHOOL ENTRANCES. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE PROPOSING TOO MANY ON STREET RACKS. WE ONLY PROPOSE THEM IN AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT A BIKE RACK WHERE THERE'S SPACE, AND IT'S NOT CONFLICTING WITH OTHER USES IN THE AREA, BUT CERTAINLY, OF COURSE, ENCOURAGING THE SCHOOL TO, TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL BIKE RACKS, I THINK IS A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES, EXCEPT FOR EXPANDED SCHOOL LOADING AT THE ZONE ON VINCENT PARK THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY MODIFICATION WE MADE DURING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PHASE. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO THE PACKAGE INCLUDED A NUMBER OF INPUTS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. RIGHT? WE HAD FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON THIS. WE DID HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THEM. IT WAS MOSTLY TO ELIMINATE THE VINCENT PARK LOADING ZONE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO WE'VE CARRIED FORWARD ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT LESS THE VINCENT PARK LOADING ZONE IMPROVEMENTS. SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS ACCOMMODATED. YES. FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THANKS. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU, RYAN, FOR THE REPORT. IT WAS GREAT. I WISH THAT THE CITY HAD YOU BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, BECAUSE TRAFFIC'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW? AND IT'S A DIFFERENT BOARD NOW. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT I REMEMBER BACK WE, I WAS IN SUPPORT OF OPENING UP BOTH SEA HAWK WAY AND OR FRANCISCA, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE NORTH AND SOUTH OR EAST AND WEST PARTS. SUPPORT OF IT. ALL THE YEAH, A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, [02:20:01] HOWEVER, IN THE VINCENT PARK AREA. SO AT THIS POINT THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE'S AREA, [LAUGHTER] AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW ANY OF THOSE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD LET HIM TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT. SO I'M DEFINITELY HAPPY TO LET HIM. AND WE DID AT OUR COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE RYAN SPOKE. WE DID HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS FROM THE VINCENT SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL IN ATTENDANCE, AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF OPENING THAT UP TO ALLEVIATE THE PRESSURE THAT IT CREATES BY HAVING IT CLOSED. SO IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THEM MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL KNOWS THAT FEEDBACK, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE THINKING OTHERWISE. FROM WHAT I REMEMBER OF ALL THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. AND MY ONLY QUESTION YOU ANSWERED ABOUT SOME OF THE BULB OUTS, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING NORTH SOUTH, NOT EAST WEST. AND SO I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT IMPACTED THE BIKE LANES. BUT I SAW ON YOUR MAP. THAT WAS GOOD. BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK THIS IS GREAT PROGRESS. AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THE SAFETY GET THOSE PROTECTED BIKE LANES. WE'VE GOT MORE STUDENTS MORE AND MORE, AND WE'RE GOING TO ONLY HAVE MORE STUDENTS USING THEIR BIKES. WITH PARKING BEING AT A PREMIUM, STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE RIDING THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL HOPEFULLY SAFELY, HOPEFULLY WITH SAFE E-BIKES AND HOPEFULLY WITH PERMITS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE. BUT I THINK PEOPLE WILL GET USED TO THE WHAT LOOKS TO US COMPLICATED ENTRANCE. BUT I THINK ONCE YOU START USING IT, ONCE YOU SEE IT I THINK IT'LL WORK. YOU KNOW, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT LEFT TURN LANE, BUT IT'S, I THINK, GREAT TO HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE FOR BIKES THERE BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THERE'S MORE BIKES THAN CARS. AND SO AT THAT POINT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT OUR, SOME OF THESE STREETS AS BEING BIKE CENTRIC AS OPPOSED TO CAR CENTRIC. AND SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB THERE MITIGATING SOME OF THE PARKING LOSS AND GOING FORWARD. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY AS WELL. BUT I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, AND I'LL WAIT FOR ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. I JUST WANT TO SAY GREAT JOB RYAN. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR BIKE WITH BIKE LANES ACROSS THE CITY. THIS IS WHY REDONDO BEACH IS LEADING THE WAY ON MICROMOBILITY AND WHY WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH CREDIT FOR IT. SO GREAT. GREAT WORK. THIS IS THAT LOOKED AWESOME. I'LL OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO WHATEVER COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT WANT TO DO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE BECAUSE IT'S HIS DISTRICT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT BECAUSE HE DRIVES DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME. I THINK IT'S PART OF HIS RITUAL TO DROP HIS SONS OFF AT SCHOOL. [LAUGHTER] AND I WONDER, TO THE EXTENT THERE'S MORE DECISIONS TO BE HAD HERE AFTER THIS, WHETHER IT WOULD BE WORTH. ARE THERE GOING TO BE MORE DECISIONS AFTER THIS RELATIVE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL CIRCULATION? I THINK THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNING AND STRIPING FOR THIS, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, AS WE TYPICALLY DO. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE NEXT TOUCH POINT. WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. KIND OF SO I JUST WONDER IF, TO THE EXTENT YOU NEEDED FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, WHETHER IT BE WISE TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE AND BEHRENDT OPINING ON THIS, BECAUSE CIRCULATION AROUND THE SCHOOL, AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL IS KIND OF UNIQUE TO THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT RELATIONS. AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE SPECIFIC INSIGHTS ON IT. BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT ALSO HEARS THIS STUFF, SO WE COULD BE GETTING TO THREE OF THE COUNCIL OUT OF. SURE. I WAS THINKING LESS NEGOTIATING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS MUCH AS JUST GIVING FEEDBACK TO PUBLIC WORKS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE FEEDBACK WANTS, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT IS TO HAVE THE THROUGH ACCESS YOU KNOW, ON THE FRANCISCA. OKAY. WE ARE TRYING TO TREAD LIGHTLY IN RESPECT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THEM FULL DISCERNMENT ON OR AT LEAST DISCRETION ON WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO. WE ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE THEM. WE ALL KIND OF RECOGNIZE THE VALUE INTUITIVELY OF HAVING THROUGH TRAFFIC, AT LEAST FOR PORTIONS OF THE DAY THERE. FOR OUR REQUEST OR OUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT, THOUGH, WOULD BE FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND AUTHORIZE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FINAL DESIGN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH WE WOULD BRING BACK, AS RYAN MENTIONED, IN OUR USUAL FASHION. SO. OKAY. BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, RIGHT. THAT'S TYPICALLY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM AUTHORIZING US TO PROCEED WITH BIDDING. WE DON'T USUALLY PROVIDE A UPDATED CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE JUNCTURE FOR THAT. THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO NOTE IS WE HAVE RYAN AND YOU ARE BEING VERY DIPLOMATIC ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAVE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED THE DISTRICT TO CONSIDER THE THROUGH LINE THERE. WE INTRODUCED THIS CONCEPT VERY EARLY. WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THE DISTRICT IS PLANNING TO SPEND RESOURCES ON IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA. [02:25:01] THAT'S A VERY POSITIVE THING. THEY'RE USING SOME OF THEIR THEIR PROCEEDS TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE THERE. I THINK ANYTHING THAT THEY DO WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT. AND AS I SAID, WE LENDED RYAN TO THEM VERY EARLY IN THAT CONCEPTUAL DESIGN EFFORT. WE'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO CONSIDER THE DRAWINGS THAT RYAN HAS PREPARED, AND I THINK THEY'VE TAKEN THEM SERIOUSLY. I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME HEADWAY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MANAGE EXPECTATIONS HERE. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY INTEND TO CREATE THROUGH TRAFFIC LANES THERE. I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY FAIRLY STEADFAST IN A TURNAROUND SOLUTION. SO WE'LL KEEP TRYING. WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THEM. AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED IF THEY ULTIMATELY MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT. BUT THEY'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE THE DECISION MAKER AS IT PERTAINS TO THOSE ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS. WITH RESPECT TO TURN LANES OR TURNING MOVEMENTS COMING OFF CITY PROPERTY ONTO THE PUBLIC STREET. DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY THERE? YEAH, I THINK ON A RIGHT TURN? ON OUR STREETS. YEAH. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR EGRESSING FROM THE SCHOOL. YES. OFF THEIR PROPERTY AND ONTO OURS. YEAH. WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT. OKAY. WE CAN MANDATE YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT. YES, YES. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE CAN STUDY IT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST GOING BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT. RYAN AND ANDY, DID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GIVE ANY REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ALLOW RYAN'S SOUNDS LIKE RECOMMENDATION FOR TRAFFIC FLOW. I THINK THEIR PRIMARY. YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR THINKING ABOUT THE MOST IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN FROM DIAMOND AND YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF YOUR CAR AS A STUDENT, YOU'RE GETTING OFF THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR CAR ON THE AUDITORIUM SIDE, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CROSS INTO THE SCHOOL GATE GOING UP THE HILL. THEIR FIRST AND FOREMOST PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY OF THAT WALKWAY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THEIR FIRST PASS AT THIS TURNAROUND WAS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NO CAR ACCESS GOING THROUGH THAT AREA SO THEY COULD PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, A TRUE SIDEWALK WITH NO CROSSINGS. SO THE DRAWINGS THAT I, THE DRAWING THAT I PROVIDED TO THEM IS A COMPROMISE ON THAT TO, SHOW A VERY NARROW, BOLLARD CONTROLLED, RAISED CROSSWALK OPENING TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS. BUT ALSO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER LIMITED THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA. AND THAT'S BEEN THE DISCUSSION POINTS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO YOU ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME REVISED DRAWINGS. YES. THAT'S THE DRAWING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU IS THE ONE THAT I PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOL. AND THERE ARE PRESUMABLY THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT. WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. BUT THAT'S OUR CURRENT POSITION ON, THAT OPERATION. STRANGE. MEETING I WAS IN IT SEEMED LIKE WHAT CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY WAS SAYING. THEY WERE PRETTY SET ON THAT TURNAROUND. THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARED TO ME. MAYBE I'M. WE'RE WE'LL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. AND RYAN'S DONE A GREAT JOB. I THINK EXPLAINING THE MERITS OF THE CONCEPT WORK THAT HE'S PREPARED. THEY HAVE THEIR ON SITE NEEDS AS WELL. I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD TO THEIR PARKING COUNT DOWN IN THIS REGION, AS WELL AS ANOTHER UPSIDE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND NEARBY RESIDENTS AS IT PERTAINS TO ON SITE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND ASSOCIATED PARKING. BUT THE OTHER RATIONALE THEY STATED, AND I COULD BE MISTAKEN, THIS WAS IN A MEETING I DIDN'T TAKE NOTES ON EVERYTHING STATED, BUT I THOUGHT THEY ALSO STATED THAT THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY PROPOSED THAT. AND THAT SEEMS TO CONTRADICT WHAT YOU'VE HEARD. I MEAN, IT WAS I HEARD THAT THERE WERE STRONG OPINION THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE VINCENT SIDE, I'D HEARD THE SAME THING WHEN I HAD THEM IN. THEY WERE OPEN TO IT BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING NOW. WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR PERMITTED PARKING AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH REALLY ONLY PUSHES THE PROBLEM FURTHER OUT. NOW DOWN VINCENT, CLOSER TO WHERE THE STADIUM AND BASEBALL FIELDS ARE. A LOT OF THAT PARKING IS NOW PERMITTED, WHICH, AGAIN, JUST PUSHES TRAFFIC AND PARKING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL START TO GET PHONE CALLS FROM THOSE PEOPLE NOW SAYING THAT THERE'S PARKING, YOU KNOW, NO PARKING ON MY STREET WHENEVER THERE'S AN EVENT. SO AGAIN, IF WE COULD GET PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON CAMPUS, CREATE, YOU KNOW, DROP OFF ZONES THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE IN, DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN, GET THEM OUT OF THE AREA AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL FASTER. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE ONE WAY THROUGH FRANCISCA FROM DIAMOND TO VINCENT. BUT IF WE DID IT THE OPPOSITE WAY, FROM VINCENT TO DIAMOND, THAT WOULD PUT THE STUDENTS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CURB GOING INTO CAMPUS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THERE. [02:30:01] WE EXPLORED THAT A LITTLE BIT INTERNALLY. JUST BRIAN AND I BACK AND FORTH. THE CHALLENGE, THE ADVANTAGE WE HAVE WITH PEOPLE HEADING EASTBOUND ON DIAMOND AND TURNING INTO FRANCISCA FROM PCH IS THAT THEY HAVE A LEFT TURN ARROW AT DIAMOND, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE AT VINCENT. VINCENT. RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE ASKING SOUTHBOUND ON PCH TO TURN LEFT AT VINCENT TO MAKE THAT LOOP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF A DEDICATED LEFT TURN ARROW THERE. OKAY. SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU WALKED ALL OVER. NOT AT ALL. THIS HAS BEEN A CREATIVE TO THE DISCUSSION. DOES THIS ON THAT NOTE, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD POINT. DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER? SOMEBODY AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS YOU KNOW. I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING MY TIME FOR THEM. OKAY. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, WHO'S LOOKED AT YOUR DRAWINGS AND YOUR REVISED DRAWINGS AND KIND OF TALKED TO YOU ON A PROFESSIONAL, PEER TO PEER LEVEL. IS THAT RIGHT? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. I THINK THIS THIS STUDY IS SORT OF HELPING THE SCHOOL OUT INTO THAT REGARD. OKAY. AND I THINK ON THEIR END THEY HAVE AN ARCHITECT. AN ARCHITECT. OKAY. BUT NOT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER CREDENTIALS NECESSARILY. NOT THAT I KNOW OF. OKAY. WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON THEIR TEAM. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T MET. THEY MAY HAVE CONSULTANTS. WE HAVEN'T MET YET. I JUST I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. GO AHEAD ANDY. WE JUST HAVEN'T MET THAT PERSON. IF THERE IS A DEDICATED TRAFFIC PERSON. YEAH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE WHY THEY WOULDN'T GO ALONG WITH WHAT SOUNDS LIKE RYAN'S PROPOSED IN CHADWICK CASTLE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER SOUNDS LIKE HE'S BEEN ASKING FOR AT SOME POINT GOING WAY BACK. ALTHOUGH IT COULD BE THAT THE SCHOOL IS REMEMBERING MY TIME AND HASN'T HEARD THE NEW DATA FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. THAT'S ONE OF MY SUSPICIONS TOO. I WOULD, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO LET THEM KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THROUGH THE MEETINGS THAT DISTRICT TWO CITY COUNCIL IS SAYING THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE, BECAUSE THAT YOU KNOW THAT 180 DEGREES FROM WHAT THEY MAY BE THINKING. YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY TO GET THIS DONE. WE'LL KEEP PUSHING. WE'LL CARRY THAT INPUT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE HAS RECEIVED AS PART OF HIS CONVERSATIONS TO THEM. AND WE'LL SEE IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. THAT'S OUR HOPE. I MEAN, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THIS ISSUE. AND I WILL SAY THEY'VE BEEN RECEPTIVE TO RYAN'S CHARMS SO [LAUGHTER] WE'LL SEE IF THAT CONTINUES. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN JUST THE LAST POINT BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, IS THERE OTHER THAN WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, RYAN OR ANDY THAT YOU THINK MAY BE PROBLEMATIC, MAYBE A DRAWBACK, SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN HERE BEFORE WE GIVE THE GO AHEAD. ANYTHING YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT YOUR PLANS AND RECOMMENDATIONS? I WOULD SAY STREET SWEEPING COULD BE ONE OF THEM. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER. I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER PROTECTED BIKE LANE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE COOKER IN THE CITY. SO EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND A WAY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S IT'S THERE'S SMALLER STREET SWEEPERS OUT IN OTHER CITIES. BUT WE DO NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO SERVICE SMALLER BIKE LANE ENVIRONMENTS AT SOME POINT. AND IT MAY SEEM LIKE A SMALL ISSUE. I WAS WHEN HE SHOWED THE PICTURE. I SAID, WE HAVE PLENTY OF WIDTH, BUT DO WE HAVE ALL THE PAINT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH PAINT BEING APPLIED TO THE ROADWAY THERE THAT THAT'S AT SOME POINT GOING TO BE A MAINTENANCE COST THAT WILL INCUR AS A CITY TO RESTRIPE AND REPAINT THOSE PARTICULAR ZONES. SO DOES IT SEEM TO CARRY WATER WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THE SAFETY OF CYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS? I DON'T KNOW, BUT AT SOME POINT THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL CONSIDER AS WE GO THROUGH. YOU KNOW, IF WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE DESIGN TRYING TO FIND MATERIALS THAT ARE COST EFFECTIVE AND AS LOW MAINTENANCE AS POSSIBLE AND HAS SOME LEVEL OF ESTHETIC, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT LOOKING TOO UGLY. YEAH. OKAY. IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. THIS IS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. DO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ANY GRANT MONIES FOR THIS OR IS THIS BUDGETED IN A DIFFERENT WAY? IT'S BEEN FUNDED THROUGH DESIGN, AND I THINK ONCE WE GET A FULLER COST ESTIMATE, WE SHOULD HAVE, I THINK, SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE. I THINK WE STILL HAVE ABOUT $100,000 OR SO LEFT THAT MIGHT PAY FOR SOME SLURRY SEAL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COST ESTIMATE YET. LET ME JUST REPHRASE THAT A LITTLE BIT. THE ENTIRE DESIGN HAS BEEN FUNDED WITH FUNDS ALMOST $100,000 BEYOND THAT FOR IMPLEMENTATION. OKAY. POTENTIALLY IF THERE'S GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR MOBILITY TYPE GRANTS, WHICH THERE ARE MANY, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET IT FAST ENOUGH TO USE IT WHEN WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THIS. OKAY. IS ANOTHER MATTER, BUT WE'LL KEEP OUR EYES OPEN. [02:35:01] THERE MAY NEED TO BE AN ALLOCATION MADE TO GET THIS DONE AT SOME POINT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH ALLOCATIONS CURRENTLY. WE DO AS ANDY MENTIONED, WE HAVE ABOUT $100,000 FOR IMPLEMENTATION. TYPICALLY HOW WE WILL EXECUTE THESE. THIS WORK IS AS A CHANGE ORDER AS A RIDER TO OUR UPCOMING RESIDENTIAL STREET REHAB EFFORTS OR ALLEY EFFORTS OR SLURRY SEAL PROJECT, ETC. SO WE WILL APPEND THIS SCOPE ONTO THAT PROJECT. AND DEPENDING ON UNIT PRICING, THE $100,000 WILL BE SUFFICIENT OR WILL NEED A BIT MORE IN REGIONAL MEASURE OR LOCAL RETURN MEASURE M LOCAL RETURN MEASURE R TO COVER THAT GAP. SO THAT WILL BE CONFRONTED WITH THAT AS WE APPEND IT TO THE PROJECT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND THEN TIMELINE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING FOR THIS? SO IF WE GET THE GO AHEAD TONIGHT I THINK PROBABLY ANOTHER SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE, FOUR MONTHS OF DESIGN. AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TIME THE BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL PERIOD. SO WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARD PRESSED TO GET THIS DONE IN THIS UPCOMING SUMMER. BUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE SUMMER AFTER THAT, IF WE IF WE CAN COBBLE TOGETHER THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. I'LL BE MORE OPTIMISTIC. I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE THIS SUMMER. [LAUGHTER]. IT'S NOT. IT'S IT'S A SLURRY. PROJECTS GO FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE STRIPING TAKES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR SLURRY TO CURE AND ALL THAT, BUT IT'S POTENTIALLY DOABLE. I DON'T OFTEN GO OUT ON A LIMB, BUT I WILL ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S DOABLE. AND I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD COST ESTIMATE FOR IMPLEMENTATION BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE BUDGET CONVERSATION. SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN A CIP PROGRAMING IF WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDS. YEAH. AND THE SCOPE OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS DOES NOT INCLUDE RAMPS AND CIVIL DESIGN. THESE ARE ALL INTENDED TO BE IMPLEMENTED ON A FAIRLY QUICKLY STRIPING BASIS. OKAY THANK YOU. WE'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT. [LAUGHTER]. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING QUICK. VERY QUICK. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU PAINT THE GREEN FOR THE BICYCLE LANES. I KNOW THE FILM COMMISSION TALKS ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU DON'T USE THE WRONG COLOR GREEN, SO THAT WHEN THEY IF SOMEBODY FILMS THERE BECOMES GREEN CHROMA KEY TYPE THING. SO JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. YES. I THINK MORE CHARTREUSE THAN. [LAUGHTER] WE COULD BRING OPTIONS BACK FOR A FILM. MAY HAVE TO GET US TO HELP US WITH OUR GREEN. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE. PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, NO, WE HAVE NOT DONE PUBLIC COMMENT YET. OH. GO AHEAD. I MOVE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. I DON'T HAVE THE LAST SLIDE UP, BUT AS PROPOSED. AND TO WITH DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES, EXCEPT FOR THE EXPANDED SCHOOL LOADING ZONE ON VINCENT PARK. AND I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, WHICH IS COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. AND UNLESS THE CITY MANAGER FEELS NOT TO HAVE STAFF PROVIDE THE DRAWINGS AND SCHEMATICS THAT RYAN PREPARED FOR THE PROPOSED SAFE AND TRAFFIC FLOW PASS THROUGH ON FRANCESCA REDONDO EXITING VINCENT AND THEN AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT APPROPRIATE, REENGAGE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IF WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT. SO THERE'S NO MISCONCEPTION YOU KNOW, TO LET THEM KNOW. AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS OUT HERE TONIGHT AT OUR, AT OUR EVENT. SO THEY I PRESUME THEY'D BE OPEN TO IT. DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YES. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WHEN YOU SAY PROVIDE, PROVIDE TO US OR PROVIDE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? PROVIDE. WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT, BUT WE'LL CIRCULATE IT TO YOU ALL AS WELL. SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THE CURRENT DESIGN EFFORT. YEAH. AND THEN. YOU SECOND IT? I SECOND IT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR TACKLING THIS ISSUE. THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. MY NAME IS LAURA MACMORRAN. I'M A REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT AND MAY I ASK, COULD WE GET THIS AERIAL SLIDE AT SEA HAWK WAY UP? SO I GOT A CAUTION IT'S NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, BUT. I UNDERSTAND I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IN PART ANDY, YOU SAID GO OUT ON A LIMB WHEN THESE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND CONCEPTUAL PHASE, COULD THEY ALSO INCLUDE OPTIONS OR MAYBE THE FINAL DRAFT FOR WHERE GREEN SPACES CAN BE INSTALLED OR TREES CAN BE PLANTED? I SEE DIAMOND LOOKS PRETTY HARD HERE AT THIS INTERSECTION AND I SEE DEAD SPACE. SO WHAT I ASK OF COUNCIL IS MAYBE IN THEIR MOTION IF THEY COULD ASK FOR THE FINAL DRAFT TO INCLUDE [02:40:08] OPTIONS FOR TREE LOCATIONS IN GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAUREEN DISCIPULO DISTRICT THREE AT PAULINA, I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN. I WAS HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC WORKS. IT MAKES SENSE. I WALK MY DOG OFTEN DURING THAT TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING. AND AS FAR AS THE CYCLISTS GETTING INTO THE INTO THAT LEFT TURN LANE, ONCE THEY PASS, IT'S JUANITA, RIGHT? ONCE THEY PASS THAT INTERSECTION, THEY'RE ALREADY GOING OVER. SO ANYWAY, I SUPPORT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, I DON'T I DON'T CROSS JUANITA FROM DIAMOND TO THE OTHER SIDE AT ALL. RIGHT NOW IN THE MORNING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPING IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS? PROBABLY NOT. I THINK TO DIG A MEDIAN IN AND PUT SOME TREE WELLS. THAT'S FAR BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY INHIBITED. IF THAT'S THE CASE. THAT'S MORE OF A VERY LONG TERM TYPE OF ASK I THINK. WE COULD IDENTIFY POTENTIAL FUTURE LOCATIONS FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION IF FUNDING AND COUNCIL WILL WERE THERE. I'M NOT I WAS TRYING TO PARSE HER WORDS A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT EXACTLY SHE WAS ASKING. BUT YEAH, WE COULD PUT AN X ON THE PAGE AND SAY POSSIBLE TREE HERE IN THE FUTURE. BUT TO RYAN'S POINT, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR TO INCLUDE IT IN IMPLEMENTATION IN THIS PART OF THE PROJECT. WELL, AND IN PART BECAUSE I THINK OUR INTENTION HERE WITH FUNDING IS MORE OF A SLURRY SEAL TREATMENT. CORRECT. USING EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER WITH A SLURRY SEAL APPLICATION. IF WE WERE DOING MORE INTENSE CIVIL WORK FLATWORK CONCRETE CURBING WORK, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD LANDSCAPING, WHICH WE WOULD DO THROUGH NORMAL DESIGN. THIS IS MORE OF A TOPICAL TREATMENT. WOULD YOU NEED A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ASK THE CITY TO PUT X'S ON THE MAP FOR WHERE TREES COULD GO? WOULD YOU? I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I'M FOR THIS FOR THIS PROJECT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, I THINK I WOULD NOT LIKE TO CHANGE MY MOTION JUST GIVEN THAT AREA. AND I'D WANT TO GO OUT AND WALK IT AGAIN, BECAUSE IN TERMS OF THE STREET, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE STREET AND TRYING TO CREATE A MEDIAN EVEN IN THE FUTURE, WITH ALL OF THE BIKE LANES AT THAT INTERSECTION BETWEEN SEA HAWK WAY AND ALAMO SEEMS TO BE A LOT. IN GENERAL I THINK LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SAID, IF WE WERE DOING A LOT MORE, ALMOST LIKE A NEW STREET WHERE WE WERE DOING STREET DESIGN, THERE MIGHT BE ROOM FOR INCLUDING MEDIANS WITH TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT RIGHT NOW, I THINK JUST THE SLURRY SEAL. WHAT IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT SIDEWALKS TOO? THAT'S THE SCHOOL PROPERTY. SO I THINK LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THIS PROJECT THAT'S IN THE STREET. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI IS YOUR HAND UP? YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE WAS SAYING, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT MS. MACMORRAN IS SAYING. WHICH IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO PLANT MORE TREES AND INCREASE OUR TREE CANOPY, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED SO. WHICH IS OUR NEXT TOPIC. YEP. NOTED. THAT'S IT THANKS. SO THE MOTION STANDS AS, AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. SO THE STAFF UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION? YES WE DO. OKAY. ALL FOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. MAY I MAKE A MOTION FOR A TEN MINUTE RECESS? OKAY. SECOND. OKAY MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A TEN MINUTE RECESS. ALL FOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. WE'LL BE BACK IN TEN MINUTES. I THINK WE'VE GOT. WE'RE COMING BACK FROM BREAK. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. FOR YOU THOSE OF YOU HANGING AROUND FOR N.3. WE'LL NOW GO TO N.3. THIS IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY POLICIES. WHO'S GOT THE BALL? I GUESS I'LL TAKE IT HERE THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR ANDY WINJE, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. WITH ME, I HAVE MIKE KLEIN, WHOM YOU ALL KNOW, AND MARK GARLOCK, WHO'S OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGER AND CITY ARBORIST. I'LL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY ALL HERE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE DURING OR AFTER THE PRESENTATION. [02:45:05] NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS A STRATEGIC PLAN RESPONSE TO A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM THAT'S BEEN ON THE COUNCIL'S PLANNING DOCUMENT SINCE THIS LAST REORGANIZATION IN THE SPRING. TREE CANOPY IS BECOMING A IMPORTANT CONVERSATION IN THE PUBLIC WORKS FIELD. AND JUST, JUST IN RECENT YEARS LA COUNTY JUST CREATED THEIR FIRST URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN, IF YOU WILL. IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, THE STATE HAS PENDING LEGISLATION OR CURRENT LEGISLATION THAT IS PUSHING CITIES AND AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE IN THIS DIRECTION AS WELL. SO IT IS BECOMING A RECOGNIZED AND IMPORTANT TOPIC. THE CITY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY LOOKING AT TREE PROTECTION. AS YOU RECALL, AN ORDINANCE WAS PASSED IN 2023. THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE. PROTECTING AND DIRECTING USES ACCEPTABLE REASONS TO REMOVE A TREE. RESTRICTIONS ON HOW TREES SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. FOR THE CITY'S TREE INVENTORY CITY TREES WE DID SPEND A LITTLE TIME LOOKING AT PRIVATE PROPERTY TREES DURING THAT CONVERSATION, BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE. YOU'LL SEE FROM THESE BORROWED GRAPHICS I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR BECAUSE I THINK THEY TELL A GREAT STORY OF WHY TREE CANOPY IS IMPORTANT. ECONOMIC BENEFITS, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, HEALTH BENEFITS, SOCIAL BENEFITS. COMMUNITIES VALUE THESE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND PART OF OUR DISCUSSION WILL BE UNDERSTANDING OUR COMMUNITY'S VALUES AND PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTAINING TREE CANOPY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE REDONDO BEACH URBAN FOREST. WE AND BY THE WAY, WE KEEP RECORDS THROUGH WCA, OUR VENDOR WHO PROVIDES GIS LEVEL INFORMATION FOR ALL THE TREES IN OUR CITY THAT ARE MAPPED OUT. THE TIMES WHEN THEY'RE PRUNED OR TOUCHED OR PLANTED ARE RECORDED IN OUR GIS DOCUMENTATION. SO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION OF ALL THE TREES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. MARK MANAGES THAT CONTRACT AND IS VERY MUCH IN TOUCH WITH THAT DATA. OVER 11,300 TREES. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO 11,350 CITY OWNED TREES IN THE NEARLY 1100 ACRES OF PUBLICLY CONTROLLED LAND IN THE CITY. WE HAVE GREAT DIVERSITY, WITH TEN PRIMARY SPECIES HERE LISTED INDIVIDUALLY THERE ON THAT TABLE. AND THEN OUR OTHER CATEGORY IS OVER 216 DIFFERENT SPECIES REPRESENTED IN THE OTHER CATEGORY THERE. BROAD, BROAD DIVERSITY HELPS WITH OUR OVERALL CANOPY HEALTH AND TREE HEALTH, FOREST HEALTH. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO SHOWING HERE ON THIS CHART ON THE LEFT, KIND OF THE AGE PROFILE OF OUR TREES, USING TRUNK DIAMETER AS A PROXY METRIC FOR AGE. YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE KIND OF A ALMOST A BELL SHAPED CURVE THERE IN OUR GREEN BARS. AN IDEAL DISTRIBUTION MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THAT ORANGE LINE WHERE WE HAVE HIGHER QUANTITY OF YOUNGER TREES VERSUS THE OLDER TREES. SO WE'RE NOT QUITE BALANCED THERE IN TERMS OF OUR FOREST HEALTH. BUT THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY AN AREA WE CAN WORK ON WITH THE PLANTING OF NEW TREES IN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEARS HERE. DID YOU IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU SAID NEW TREES? GET MORE NEW TREES? NEW, MORE YOUNGER TREES. OKAY. PLANTING TREES. YOUNGER TREES WILL HELP US. WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A BALANCE WHERE WE HAVE MORE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL TREES THAT ARE YOUNGER. JUST MOST NATURAL SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU LOTS OF YOUNG BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T ALL MAKE IT TO ADULTHOOD. AND TREES ARE THE SAME WAY. WE LOSE A LOT OF TREES FOR HEALTH REASONS, FOR OTHER REASONS IN THE CITY. SO KIND OF OVER PLANTING THE YOUNG TREES IN HOPES THAT WE GET THAT GOOD CANOPY IN THE FUTURE IS A STRATEGY THAT WE CAN AND IT'S PRACTICAL TO DO. CERTAINLY A LOT EASIER TO PLANT A YOUNG TREE, THAN AN OLD TREE. WE CAN GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK IN TERMS OF FILLING VACANCIES AND PARKWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH YOUNGER TREES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK WE WANT THE YOUNG TREES TO GET OLD SO THEY HAVE MORE CANOPY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE LOSE CANOPY WHEN WE LOSE OLD TREES. IT'S HARD TO PLANT OLD TREES. MUCH EASIER TO PLANT YOUNG TREES. WHEN A TREE IS PLANTED. IS THAT CONSIDERED WHEN IT'S NEW OR IS IT A THREE OR LIKE A 24 INCH BOX TREE? IS THAT A TWO YEAR OLD TREE? A THREE YEAR OLD TREE? A FIVE YEAR OLD TREE? THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE SPECIES. TYPICALLY, A 24 INCH BOX TREE WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 5 YEARS OLD FROM THE NURSERY SETTING, DEPENDING ON HOW IT WAS CULTIVATED. SO ON THAT BAR CHART, WHEN WE PLANT A TREE, IT WOULD STILL BE IN THAT 1 TO 6. [02:50:09] THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS. WE'VE PULLED SOME RECORDS FOR THAT TIME PERIOD. THE DEPARTMENT HAS PLANTED OVER A THOUSAND TREES. NEARLY A THOUSAND TREES I SHOULD SAY 942, TO BE PRECISE. IN THAT LAST SIX YEAR PERIOD, WE HAVE REMOVED 197 TREES IN THAT PERIOD, BY OUR COUNT, IN THE LAST SIX YEARS. THE GOOD NEWS THERE IS THAT AFTER 20 FISCAL YEAR 2021, THE REMOVAL COUNT DROPPED CONSIDERABLY, REPRESENTED BY THE SHORTER ORANGE BARS YOU'LL SEE THERE IN THE NEGATIVE CATEGORY UNDER THAT ZERO LINE. THAT'S JUST ON CITY PROPERTY OR IS THIS? THESE ARE CITY TREES, CITY TREES. SO PARKS AS WELL AS CITY PROPERTY AS WELL AS CITY PARCELS. RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. WHAT IF I COULD. JUST 1000 TREES? 942, TO BE PRECISE YEAH. WOW. HOW DID KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID THAT, BUT. WELL, COUNCIL'S FUNDED IT, CERTAINLY. AND WE'VE HAD DIRECTION FROM PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL TO, TO CONTINUE THAT THAT HIGH PACE OF. DOES THIS INCLUDE DONATIONS AND GRANTS? I GUESS BPC JUST GOT A GRANT FOR THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY GRANT FOR WILDERNESS PARK, WHICH INCLUDES TREES AT THEIR PLANTING AND. THIS KEEPS TRACK OF TREES THAT CITY STAFF HAS PLANTED. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY. YEAH, IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN THIS. COULD BE HIGHER. THIS WOULD BE ANY ACTIVITY CONDUCTED BY OUR STAFF OR OUR CONTRACTORS USING ANY VARIETY OF FUNDS. AND THE COUNCIL HAS HAD SPECIFIC APPROPRIATIONS, SEVERAL APPROPRIATIONS IN THIS REGARD IN THE LAST FEW BUDGET CYCLES. SO THE TREND LINE THERE SHOWS OUR NET CUMULATIVE INCREASE OVER THAT TIME. GETS YOU UP TO ABOUT 750 NET TREE COUNT INCREASE IN THE LAST SIX YEARS FOR OUR TREE INVENTORY. THAT AVERAGES KIND OF AN ANNUAL AVERAGE ADDITIONAL RATE OF ABOUT 125 TREES PER YEAR, ON AVERAGE, OVER THAT SIX YEAR PERIOD. SOME ADVANCES THAT OTHER ADVANCES BESIDES JUST PLANTING THAT THE CITY HAS MADE TOWARDS ENHANCING TREE CANOPY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE, I MENTIONED, SOME OF THE TITLES THERE ARE SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT SCREEN. AGAIN, ALL HIGHLIGHTING JUST THE TREE PARTS OF IT. THE PRIVATE TREES WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT FINAL ADOPTION. WE ARE A TREE CITY. TREE CITY USA. PART OF THE ARBOR DAY NETWORK. ARBOR DAY HAS GREAT RESOURCES, BY THE WAY, THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO FOR INFORMATION. OTHER PLANTING IDEAS. AND OUR ANNUAL ARBOR DAY RECOGNITION EVERY YEAR IN THE SPRING. WE HAVE AN APPROVED SPECIES LIST. IT PROBABLY NEEDS SOME WORK, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO START ON THAT. WE'VE DEVELOPED SOME INTERNAL DEPARTMENT LEVEL STANDARDS OF CARE, PARKWAY PLANTING DESIGN GUIDES FOR INTERNAL USE AND FOR OUR POLICY, FOR OUR PLAN REVIEW. AND WHEN WE'RE CALLED UPON TO DO PLAN REVIEW AND THEN A FEW PLANTING PROGRAMS YOU MENTIONED ONE WITH SBEC AND OTHER HELP THERE. SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD. WHAT ABOUT, LIKE, A DEVELOPMENT, LIKE LEGADO. YOU KNOW, THEY TORE OUT THE TREES THAT WERE THERE. THEY HAD A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY. DOES IT DOES THAT COUNT IN THIS? COUNT AS FAR AS TREE COUNT. WE WOULD WE ADD THE WE ADD THOSE TO OUR INVENTORY. WE DON'T PLANT THE TREES, BUT IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT'S ADDED TO OUR INVENTORY. WE GO BACK AND ENFORCE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO INSTALL? WE DID DO ONE ITERATION OF THAT, AS I RECALL, WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND OUR MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS INVOLVED TOO TO GET THAT DONE. I KNOW IN LEGADO IN PARTICULAR ON THE PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY FRONTAGE THERE, WE DO HAVE A PROJECT COMING TO EXPAND THE RIGHT TURN LANE THERE, WHICH IS WHY THEY DIDN'T PLANT TREES ON THAT FRONTAGE, BECAUSE THEY'D JUST BE TAKEN OUT HERE SHORTLY BY CALTRANS. WE JUST LOSE THOSE TREES OR ARE THEY IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION THEN? YEAH I DON'T THINK THERE WERE EVER ANY TREES PLANNED TO BE. I DON'T, I DON'T I WASN'T PART OF THE LEGADO APPROVALS. BUT WE. THEY SHOWED THEM ON SOME OF THEIR ELEVATIONS WHEN THEY WERE SELLING THE PROJECT. YES. SOME OF THE ITERATIONS, I THINK SOME OF THE THEY HAD A I THINK MARK AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. THEY HAD A PRETTY ILLUSTRATIVE LANDSCAPE FACADE ON THEIR PROJECT RENDERINGS IN THEIR EARLY ELEVATIONS. IN REALITY, THE SUBMITTED PLANS SHOWED SOME TREES. [02:55:05] WE DID INSIST ON TREES IN THE PARKWAY. IN FACT, THERE WAS A CORRECTION MADE ON INSPECTION THAT THEY HADN'T PLANTED THE TREES IN THE PARKWAY THAT WE REQUIRED. THOSE WERE THEN LATER ADDED BUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THEIR RENDERINGS DIDN'T MATCH THEIR FINAL PERMIT OR PLAN SET QUITE THE SAME AT QUITE THE SAME LEVEL. IT SEEMS LIKE ANOTHER BAIT AND SWITCH. OKAY. CERTAINLY THINGS GOING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT WE'RE CLOSER EYE ON THAT AS THIS BECOMES A MORE IMPORTANT TOPIC FROM US. I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG AGO LEGADO WENT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, BUT MAYBE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE AS KEEN TO BACK THEN. DO YOU PLAN ON UPDATING THE TREE LIST? THE FAVORED TREE LIST? YEAH, THAT'S PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO TO DO SOME MORE WORK ON OUR TREES THAT WE ARE APPROVING OR RECOMMENDING. AND CERTAINLY PART OF THAT WILL BE SOME TREES, TREES THAT WE WOULD NOT ALLOW IN THE PARKWAY, LIKE PEPPER TREES WHICH ARE INVASIVE, ARE OFF THE LIST. THEY'RE ON THE FORBIDDEN LIST? RIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON THAT. WE HAVE A LIST. I THINK IT INCLUDES ABOUT 24 SPECIES RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE. AND WE NEED TO INCLUDE THE NAUGHTY LIST AS WELL, IF YOU WILL. TO KEEP THOSE OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO, YEAH, BY THE WAY, JUST TO FINISH THE THOUGHT ON LEGADO, WE DID TALK TO CALTRANS ABOUT CREATING TREE WELLS IN THEIR DESIGN FOR US. THEY WERE RESISTANT BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES UNDER THE SIDEWALK THERE. SO THEY WERE RESISTANT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THEIR PROJECT TO DO THAT. LET ME SEE IF I'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING. OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THERE'S BEEN SOME DATA CIRCULATED ABOUT FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND US FOREST SERVICE ABOUT TREE CANOPY COVERAGE. I PRESENTED THESE WEBSITES TO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND FOUND THE, THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THERE IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW, A LITTLE BIT POOR RESOLUTION THERE, BUT THE DARKER GREEN ARE THE HEAVIER FORESTED AREAS, THE LIGHTER GREEN LESS CANOPY PER SQUARE FOOT OR ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS REDONDO KIND OF SITS IN THE MID RANGE TO THE LIGHT RANGE OF THAT SPREAD. I THINK THE NUMBER ON THE ON THE DATA THERE IS 8.3% COVERAGE IN 2022. AND COMPARING IT TO OLDER DATA, IT LOOKS LIKE A DRAMATIC DROP. THE NUMBERS CERTAINLY INDICATE THAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW. I'M NOT READY TO SAY THAT DATA IS GREAT DATA. IT'S PRETTY. IT'S STATEWIDE. IT'S ACTUALLY NATIONAL DATABASE OVERALL. AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY DIALED IN TO OUR PARTICULAR CITY. WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK TAKE A MUCH MORE REFINED APPROACH IF WE WANTED TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT DATA OVERALL OR DO KIND OF FIVE YEAR COMPARISONS YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO IT'S I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THE DATA IS BAD. I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE PURPOSES THAT WE WANT TO USE IT FOR, WE PROBABLY WANT TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER DEFINED DATA IF WE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW OUR NUMBER PERCENT COVERAGE, OR START SETTING GOALS ON HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO INCREASE THAT COVERAGE OVER TIME. YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE A GIS SYSTEM THAT'S TIED TO OUR ACTUAL TREES PER PROPERTY. RIGHT. AND IS THAT ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THE WEBSITE? OR IS THAT JUST IN SOMETHING INTERNAL? THAT DATA I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PUBLIC FACING OR NOT. OKAY. STAFF CAN SEE IT. STAFF THAT USE IT EVERY DAY CAN SEE IT. AND THE CITY, IT'S THE CITY'S DATA, ALTHOUGH IT'S MANAGED OR ADDED TO BY THE, BY THE CONTRACTOR AND THAT AND THAT ONLY TRACKS THE NUMBER OF TREES, NOT? SPECIES LOCATION MAYBE SIZE WHEN IT WAS LAST PRUNED, SIZE, CONDITION, WORK HISTORY. OKAY. SPECIE LOCATION. OKAY. JUST SORRY. NO GO AHEAD THAT'S ALL. IF I READ THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT WE'RE LOW AND VERY LOW. RIGHT? RIGHT FOR WE SEEM TO BE SOMEWHAT TYPICAL. BESIDES MANHATTAN BEACH, WE SEEM TO BE SOMEWHAT TYPICAL FOR THE BEACH CITIES. KIND OF THE LOWER BASIN HERE CERTAINLY PALE IN COMPARED TO PALOS VERDES AREA. MANHATTAN BEACH HAS AN INTERESTING TREE CARE POLICY THAT ISN'T WHAT WE DO. AND SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT MAYBE OVERGROWN CANOPY THERE THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT THE, THE DIRECTION WE'VE TAKEN IN TERMS OF MANAGING OUR, OUR TREE CANOPY WITH REGULAR MAINTENANCE. AND IF I MAY, MAYOR. YES. SO 2022 YOU PUT UP THE GRAPHIC ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE IN 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025. I MEAN, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF TREES, PRESUMABLY, THAT AREN'T REPRESENTED IN THIS OLD DATA. YEAH, THEY'RE SMALLER TREES. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE A LOT JUST YET. [03:00:04] I THINK ON THAT. AND WE'VE HAD OUR GIS MANAGER WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT SPECIFIC PARCELS IN 20. OKAY. 2018 DATA AND THE 2022 DATA AND THOUGHT, OH, WAIT, THEY'RE CALLING THIS LAWN A TREE CANOPY. SO I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN QUALITY CONTROLLED ENOUGH FOR US TO REALLY MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS ON IT, OR SAY WE'RE ABSOLUTELY AT 8.3%. COULD WE HAVE DROPPED IN 20 SINCE 2018? YEAH. VERY POSSIBLE. COULD WE HAVE DROPPED BY 15% OR 20%? THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF DECREASE. THAT SURPRISES ME IF THAT'S A TRUE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. SO I'M JUST SAYING WE SHOULD APPROACH THAT WITH CAUTION. AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE NUMBER, WE SHOULD PAY FOR THE WORK TO GET THAT DONE. OKAY. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, ANDY AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING YOUR OWN INTERNAL TRACKING AND DATA AND MEASUREMENTS AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO ACHIEVE. YEAH WE'RE NOT AT THE LEVEL OF CANOPY MEASUREMENTS YET, BUT IN TERMS OF QUANTITY OF TREES AND SPECIES AND HEALTH OF OUR TREES. AGE OF OUR TREES. YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY GOOD THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. IF WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. OF COURSE, THE CITY IS FULL OF PRIVATE PARCELS AS WELL. FULL OF TREES. THE DATA HERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THOSE TWO TABLES. PERCENTAGE OF CITY CONTROLLED ACREAGE IS ONLY ABOUT 27% OF ALL THE ACREAGE IN THE CITY. SO IT JUST STANDS TO REASON. IF WE REALLY WANT TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON CANOPY COVERAGE, WE WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE SOME CONSIDERATION OF WHAT HAPPENS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. OF COURSE, THAT'S A BIGGER LIFT. AND THERE'S SOME CONTROVERSY AROUND THINGS THAT WE, WE AS A CITY MIGHT NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE CONSIDERED AND USED. OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MARC WIENER IS HERE AND HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, AND HE'S INDICATED HE'S READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFICS THERE. BUT TREE CANOPY COVERAGE IN LIEU FEES. THERE ARE OPTIONS IN DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES ENTITLEMENT PROCESSES THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT 73% OF REMAINING ACREAGE. THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THROUGH PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS INCENTIVES OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IN TERMS OF STRATEGIES, SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER, BUT CERTAINLY A HEAVIER LIFT FROM A, FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW AND ADMINISTRATIVE POINT OF VIEW. GO AHEAD. THANKS. THIS IS A LIST OF STRATEGIES, POTENTIAL TOOLS WE WANTED TO PUT FORWARD AS THINGS THAT WE THINK WE CAN MANAGE AS A STAFF, GIVEN OUR CURRENT FUNDING AND AVAILABILITY LEVELS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE. AND I'LL USE IT. I TOLD MYSELF I SHOULDN'T, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THE LOW HANGING BRANCHES HERE OF WHAT WE CAN GET DONE. BUT YEAH, BUT THANK YOU. YEAH SORRY. ANYWAY, CONTINUE GOING THROUGH THE LIST HERE, CONTINUING TO ASSESS AND QUANTIFY AND MODIFY OUR CITY TREES. CERTAINLY WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO DO THAT. IF THERE'S OTHER DATA WE WANT THAT WE CAN GET FROM OUR TREE MAINTENANCE VENDOR THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MEASURE. WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK ABOUT THAT ADDING TO THAT LIST. WE THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR US TO INCREASE OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION THROUGH THE WEBSITE OR OTHER PRINTED MATERIALS INFORMATION THAT WE CAN HELP WITH. PEOPLE COME TO THE COUNTER WHO WANT HELP WITH LANDSCAPE PLANS ARE REQUIRED TO GET APPROVAL OF LANDSCAPE PLANS. THERE'S SOME BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE. DESIGN GUIDELINES. WE'VE HAD ALL THESE IN DRAFT FORM AND INTERNAL POLICY FOR A WHILE, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DEVELOP INTO PUBLIC FACING DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE'S USE AND DIRECTION. AND THE NEXT ONE FOLLOWS AS WELL. IMPROVE THE USER FRIENDLINESS OF SOME OF THIS STUFF BY MAKING IT EASY TO FIND ON THE WEBSITE, LINKING TO OBVIOUS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. OF COURSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PLANT TREES IN OUR APPROPRIATE VACANT LOCATIONS. WE HAVE ABOUT 2500 LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED NOW. NOT EVERY LOCATION IS GOING TO BE SUITABLE. WE CERTAINLY HAVE PLENTY OF EASY ONES TO DO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE HARD ONES. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE GO IS DOES THE, YOU KNOW, IF THE RESIDENT WANTS IT, IF THE RESIDENTS WILLING TO IRRIGATE IT OR IF IRRIGATION EXISTS ALREADY. THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH UTILITIES. WE TARGET THOSE AREAS FIRST. CONTINUING TO WORK OR MAYBE INCREASING OUR WORK WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE TONIGHT, REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT TO PROMOTE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TREE CANOPY AND ENHANCING VOLUNTEER EFFORTS AND THINGS THAT THE [03:05:04] PUBLIC MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH IN TERMS OF CREATING A CULTURE WHERE TREE CANOPY IS APPRECIATED MORE AND VALUED MORE THROUGH BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO BE DOING IN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. CREATION OF A DONATION PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE DONATIONS, EITHER MEMORIAL TREES OR JUST QUANTITIES OF TREES. MONEY FOR TO HELP US WITH OUR CANOPY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FAIRLY EASILY. WE DO HAVE AN ACCOUNT SET UP. WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF ACCOUNTING WORK ON THAT TO MAKE IT PROBABLY WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN IT DOES AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE VISIBLE THAN IT IS. BUT WE THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO. AND THEN THIS LAST ONE IS A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER LIFT AND PROBABLY LEANS AGAIN. MORE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND MY DEPARTMENT. BUT TO ESTABLISH DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR TREE PLANTING AND PRESERVATION. SO THOSE ARE THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE THINK WE CAN DO TO KIND OF RAISE AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR TREE CANOPY, THE VALUE OF PRESERVING IT EVERYWHERE THAT WE CAN THINGS THAT RESIDENTS CAN DO IN THEIR YARDS AND IN THEIR PARKWAYS TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE CANOPY. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, TOO, THAT ARE LONGER CONVERSATIONS, MAYBE MORE DIFFICULT, CHALLENGING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REGULATING TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. MAYBE PERMITTING REQUIRED TO REMOVE A TREE, FOR INSTANCE, COMES WITH SOME ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND SOME CHALLENGE THERE, AND SOME CONSTERNATION, PERHAPS ON THE PART OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR TREES AND SETBACKS, FOR INSTANCE, AND NOT JUST IN THE PARKWAY. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT THEY REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK. AND PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE BEYOND OUR CURRENT CAPACITY IN TERMS OF STAFF AVAILABILITY RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE CHANGING UP THE TREES THAT WE ADVOCATE AND AND ASK PEOPLE TO AVOID. YEAH. BECAUSE IF WE PICK MORE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE SEEING SOME DIE OFF IS THEY EXTENDED DROUGHTS. RIGHT. RIGHT? AND THEN THE INCREASE IN URBAN HEATING DUE TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE, THE PLANT, SOME OF THE TREES JUST CAN'T TAKE THE INCREASE IN TEMPERATURE AND OTHERS. YEAH I KIND OF MASH THAT INTO OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES. BUT I TAKE YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT THAT TREE LIST IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE. YEAH. AS SOMETHING PEOPLE. MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT. YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST ONE. YEAH. FINALLY, JUST TO OUR RECOMMENDATION RECEIVE AND FILE THIS INFORMATION PER THE STRATEGIC PLAN REQUEST REGARDING OUR TREE CANOPY PRACTICES AND POLICIES AND THEN PROVIDE ANY DIRECTION TO STAFF ON ADDITIONAL TOOLS YOU'D LIKE US TO IMPLEMENT TO OR EXPLORE TO ENHANCE THE CITY'S TREE INVENTORY. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I HAVE MIKE AND MARK HERE AND THE OTHER MARC HERE ALSO ALREADY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. DID YOU SEE THE INPUT WE GOT FROM YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR TREES? I DID YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY HAD IN THERE? YEAH, I, WE ACTUALLY INCLUDED THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT. THAT WAS. SORRY, LAURA, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO BUTCHER THE NAME OF YOUR GROUP AND CITIZENS FOR REDONDO BEACH TREES. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? I GOT IT. OKAY, SO THEY HAD ABOUT TEN ITEMS ON THERE. SOME OF THOSE WERE IDEAS THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED. OTHER THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE SCOPE OF MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. IF YOU COULD WOULD YOU PULL THAT UP? I THINK IT'S IN THE FOLDER. I CAN IT'S IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS. YOU CAN TELL US WHAT'S IN LINE AND WHAT'S OUT? YEAH, I'M LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER HERE, PLANTING TREES ON CITY PROPERTIES. CERTAINLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. PROJECT IT SO WE ALL CAN SEE IT. YEAH. LET ME LET ME GET IT UP HERE, MIKE. I'VE GOT IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT. TO CLOSE THIS OUT. FIRE UP MY SCREEN YOU PROBABLY CAN. OPEN UP. ATTACH UNLESS IT'S ALREADY THERE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. SO PLANTING TREES ON CITY PROPERTIES. OF COURSE STREET TREES IS WHAT WE'VE TARGETED. MIKE. BACK TO YOU. BACK TO YOU. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. WHO'S DRIVING? THANK YOU. BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK AT OUR CITY FACILITIES AROUND CITY HALL, FOR INSTANCE, AROUND THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY. YOU KNOW, OTHER PARKS THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE CAN EXPLORE. THIS IS REALLY JUST BUDGET LIMITED. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THERE'S NO ACCESS ISSUE. TYPICALLY, USUALLY PLENTY OF ROOM TO AVOID BURIED INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT AND PROMOTE A TREE CENTRIC INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS. WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TONIGHT WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE STREET PROJECT THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST ITEM. [03:10:01] IS THERE MORE WE CAN DO THERE? I'M SURE THERE IS. TO WHAT DEGREE SHOULD IT SHOULD IT BE TREE CENTRIC OR JUST TREE AWARE, FOR INSTANCE, ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS. I THINK WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. BUT YEAH, WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THERE. ACCOUNTABILITY, I THINK, AND I MET WITH THE CITIZENS FOR REDONDO TREES ADVOCATES A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BY PHONE, AND THEY SHARED THIS LIST WITH ME. BUT ACCOUNTABILITY WERE THINGS LIKE THEY NOTICED DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD LIKE LEGADO THAT HAD NOT PUT IN THE TREES THAT THEY WERE MEANT TO DO. SO CERTAINLY NEED TO RELY ON THE PUBLIC'S HELP THERE. WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO CONTINUALLY MONITOR DEVELOPMENTS AND WHETHER OR NOT THE TREES HAVE MADE IT PAST THE EARLY STAGES, WHEN THE INSPECTORS ARE DONE DOING THE WORK THERE SO WE WOULD. CERTAINLY THE INSPECTORS CAN. INSPECTORS HAVE A ROLE ABSOLUTELY. FOR THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND THEY DIDN'T. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK IN THE CASE OF LEGADO, I MEAN, THAT MAY NOT BE A GREAT EXAMPLE. I MEAN, THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME, DID NOT MIRROR IN TERMS OF ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION AND LANDSCAPE PLANS WHAT THE RENDERINGS DID, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS. AND REMEMBER, LEGADO WAS APPROVED, 2000 ORIGINAL DESIGN DOCS WERE APPROVED IN LIKE 2018 OR 2016. SO QUITE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO NOW. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SEEING IT EXECUTED ON THE PLAN SET DURING THE PERMITTING PHASE, NOT JUST THE PLANNING PHASE. SO WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEIR RENDERINGS AREN'T A BAIT AND SWITCH. EXACTLY. THAT THEIR REPRESENTATION. THAT THEY'RE REFLECTIVE. YEAH. YEAH. LEARNING FROM OTHER CITIES STANDARDS AND PRACTICES. CERTAINLY WE DON'T HOLD ALL THE CARDS ON THIS. THERE'S LOTS TO LEARN FOR US, SO WE'RE VERY OPEN TO THAT. PARKWAY SIDEWALK DESIGNS THAT FIT A STREETS DESIGN TYPE USE. IT'S HARD TO THINK ABOUT RETROFITTING ALL OF THE CITY SIDEWALKS, BUT CERTAINLY AS WE REPAIR SIDEWALK, AS WE DO PROJECTS, STREET PROJECTS WE CAN WE CAN FIT THAT IN. AND AGAIN, WHEN RESIDENTS COME TO US OR DEVELOPERS COME TO ENGINEER, GET AN ENGINEERING PERMIT, FOR INSTANCE, AS THEY'RE COMPELLED TO DO FOR CERTAIN LEVELS OF WORK IN ON THEIR PARCELS. WE CAN WE COULD INCLUDE OR ENCOURAGE YOU KNOW, INSTALLATION OF A TREE IN THE PARKWAY IF ONE DOESN'T EXIST FOR EXAMPLE. CREATE AND ACCEPT DONATIONS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. CERTAINLY EDUCATE AND DISSEMINATE INFORMATION. I THINK THAT'S BOTH A CITY ROLE AND A AND AN NGO TYPE ROLE. NONPROFIT ROLE. BECAUSE WE DON'T ALL SWIM IN THE SAME CIRCLES, IF YOU WILL. THE MORE EDUCATION WE CAN DO AND DISSEMINATE INFORMATION FROM, FROM BOTH OF OUR SPHERES OF INFLUENCES. I THINK THAT THAT GOES A LONG WAY. URBAN FORESTRY MASTER PLAN. WE TOUCHED ON IT IN THE IN THIS STAFF REPORT. TALKED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT IN THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION. THAT'S A PRETTY WEIGHTY ITEM COST WISE, JUST TO DO THE BASIC EVALUATION OF OUR TREE CANOPY IS IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS. THAT LOW BID WE GOT OR LOW ESTIMATE WE GOT WAS $35,000. USING THE AVAILABLE DATA, LIDAR DATA THAT'S OUT THERE OR DOING OUR COLLECTING OUR OWN DATA, IT'S ABOUT $65,000. THAT'S JUST TO GET THE DATA THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE PUBLIC OUTREACH ABOUT VALUES, ABOUT PRIORITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO AS PART OF THAT PLAN. SO THAT'S A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT ECONOMICALLY. MAYBE $100,000, YOU KNOW, IS A BALLPARK FIGURE. I HAVEN'T PRICED IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING. IF THE DATA COLLECTION IS 60, THEN THEN MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER $40,000 TO GET THAT WHOLE REPORT DONE. EMBRACING VOLUNTEER HELP. WE CERTAINLY LOVE THE HELP OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE NEED EYES AND EARS. WE NEED INPUT. WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT IS BEING ASKED OF US, BECAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN THE PUBLIC IS NOT AWARE OF SOME OF THE OTHER CONFLICTS WE HAVE WITH THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, OTHER USES, UTILITY NEEDS INTRUSION ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH GROUPS WHO ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND ABLE TO TO POINT OUT AND HELP US SEE THINGS THAT CAN BE CORRECTED. A DESIGNATION FOR UNIQUE TREES. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A HERITAGE TREE CONCEPT CAME UP IN THE LAST GO AROUND WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE. IT WAS PART OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY SIDE OF IT THAT ENDED UP FALLING OFF THE COUNCIL'S PREFERRED LIST OF WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A BIGGER LIFT, MAYBE. AND COMES WITH SOME CONTROVERSY. MARK I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CAREFULLY. PROBABLY NOT THE MOST COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO AS A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AT THE MOMENT, [03:15:05] GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE DOING. SO I THINK WE LINE UP WITH A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, MAYBE NOT EVERYONE QUITE AS MUCH, OR IN THE SAME WAY THAT WOULD BE EXPRESSED BY THE NGO. BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. OKAY. AND RELATED TO THIS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WHEN THEY TOOK OUT THE CHURCH OF SCIENCE ON BROADWAY AND, AND SAPPHIRE THEY PUT UP TREES IN THE, IN THE PARKWAY, BUT THEN THEY PUT ARTIFICIAL TURF RIGHT UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, A LIMITED RING AROUND. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO NOT PUT ARTIFICIAL TURF WITHIN THE DRIP LINE OF WHAT THE MATURE TREE SHOULD BE. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY PUT TREES IN, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY DOOMING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, FAIL IN THE FUTURE, OR AT LEAST NOT GROW WELL OR FAST. SO IS THERE THINGS WE CAN DO LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE? WELL OUR PARKWAY INTERNAL PARKWAY PLANTING GUIDELINES PROHIBIT USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THE. WELL HOW DID THAT GET IN THERE? BECAUSE IT WENT IN WHEN THEY BUILT THE WHEN THEY BUILT THE THING, WHOEVER INSPECTED IT DIDN'T CATCH IT. BUT THAT WAS PROBABLY LIKE 2015. YEAH BUT IF BUT THAT RULE HASN'T CHANGED. WELL, IT ACTUALLY HAS. WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED WRITING THAT POLICY, LIMITED USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF WAS ACTUALLY BEING ENCOURAGED FOR DROUGHT PURPOSES. BUT THEN WE GOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT IT DOES FOR HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND NOW THERE IS NO BAN ON BANNING ARTIFICIAL. YEAH, THERE WAS A THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE STATES AND WELO ORDINANCE I THINK. RIGHT. AND EXPRESSLY ALLOWED YEAH. IT CAN BE WITHIN THE YOU DON'T PUT IT WITHIN THE DRIP LINE. SO WHEN WE REVIEWED LANDSCAPE PLANS IN THE PARKWAY, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T ALLOW IT. ARTIFICIAL TURF. WE DON'T ALLOW IT AT ALL. OKAY. NOT EVERYBODY. ESPLANADE YOU'LL SEE ARTIFICIAL TURF. YEAH NOT EVERYBODY COMES TO US FOR A PERMIT. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WORK ON THEIR PARKWAYS WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A PERMIT JUST TO MAINTAIN THEM. SO, YEAH, WE HAVE TO. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT WRITTEN UP IN A WAY THAT'S DIGESTIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND DEFENSIBLE BY COUNCIL APPROVAL. IF RESIDENTS SUBMIT A COMPLAINT, CAN IS THERE CODE ENFORCEMENT ON IT? IS IT? I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE CODE. I THINK THIS IS MORE OF A DEPARTMENT LEVEL POLICY AT THIS POINT. SO IT WOULD. I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF ISN'T ALLOWED ON THE RIGHT A WAY. IN OUR INTERNAL POLICIES. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T THESE HAVEN'T BEEN BLESSED BY THE COUNCIL. WE'VE TAKEN THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION NOW SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHO COULDN'T REALLY DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO YEAH, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO PUBLISH SOME OF THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES. OKAY. PARKWAY PLANTING MANUALS SO THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. OKAY THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT FIRST, THANKS FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK. CONTINUING TO PLANT TREES IN THE CITY AND INCREASE OUR CANOPY AND HEATING THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF GUIDANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. OVER, OVER SEVERAL CITY COUNCILS. NOW I COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC AND I MET WITH A PERSON WHO HAD ACQUIRED LAND AND WAS DEVELOPING A HOUSING PROJECT, AND I NOTICED THAT THEIR WHAT THEY HAD PUT IN THEIR SKETCH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT WAS PALM TREES. AND SO I TOLD THEM, HEY, LOOK, THIS LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT THAT'S DOING NOTHING TO CAST SHADE OR COOL THINGS DOWN. CAN YOU CHOOSE A TREE WITH A GREATER CANOPY? AND BY THE WAY, THE CITY HAS A WHOLE TREE LIST. I CAN SEND IT TO YOU. AND I DROPPED IT IN THE CHAT. THE ZOOM CHAT TO THEM. FIRST, THE LIST WAS VERY EASY TO FIND ON THE WEBSITE. CITY TREE LIST. BOOM. POPS UP. ACTUALLY, CAN WE SHOW 2.B, PLEASE? YES. I THINK FROM A PR STANDPOINT, WE COULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB PUTTING A LOVELY REDONDO BEACH COVER ON THIS TO START WITH. I REALIZE IT'S A SMALL THING, BUT IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE MARKETABLE AND CONSUMER FRIENDLY AND THE LIKE, RIGHT? THEN ONCE YOU GET INTO IT, I MEAN, A PERSON. SO SO THEN ACTUALLY THEY ASKED US, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TREE OR WHAT TREE DO YOU THINK SHOULD WE SHOULD HAVE IN THERE? AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW FROM THIS LIST WHAT TREE'S WHAT? RIGHT. AND SO IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF WE COULD PUT IN, FOR EXAMPLE, IMAGES OF THE TREES SO PEOPLE COULD HAVE AN INITIAL IDEA OF, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE WHAT THE TREE LOOKS LIKE. ONE OTHER ONE OTHER THING IN HERE, BY THE WAY, N AND NDA. I IMAGINE N MEANS NO FOR SOLAR FRIENDLY. NDA I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS BUT A BUT A FEW MORE DEFINITIONS FOR THESE TERMS. I THINK WOULD BE WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THEM IN THE LEGEND KEY HERE I SEE A THROUGH M. BUT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY AND MAYBE PARE IT DOWN TO, LIKE, REALLY THE BEST TREES THAT WE'D WANT HERE IN THE CITY. [03:20:01] AND MAYBE IT'S CLEARED THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. MAYBE MIKE GARCIA, THE MAYOR, YOU GET THE AN ARBORIST IN THE CITY, GET THEIR INPUT TO NARROW IT DOWN TO THOSE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE GOOD CANOPY, NOT UPROOT OUR CURBS AND ALSO NOT DIE IN DROUGHT. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT ON THE, ON THE REGULATING PRIVATE TREE REMOVAL. WE'VE ALREADY TRIED THAT ON THE COUNCIL. IT WAS A LOT OF WORK. NOT HUGELY POPULAR. DIDN'T PASS. I'M NOT INCLINED TO, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN THAT PATH UNLESS THERE'S A CLEAR WILL BY THE COUNCIL AND OVERWHELMING WILL TO, TO DO THAT. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD OUR STAFF WITH THAT RIGHT NOW AND TAKE THEIR ATTENTION AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, THE LOW BRANCHES, WHICH IS JUST KEEP PLANTING MORE TREES AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE TREES THAT WE HAVE PLANTED. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, THE LIST THAT YOU WERE SHOWING THERE I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT I THINK OUR TREE LIST IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IF YOU COULD LET OURS BACK UP. SURE. SO THIS IS IT. THEY HAVE THE LOGO AND EVERYTHING THAT IS. [LAUGHTER]. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. I REMEMBER SEEING. YOUR WISHES ARE A COMMAND, I GUESS. SO. DONE. YEAH. NEXT, LET ME YOU CAN GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT I'LL GO TO REDONDO.ORG AND TYPE IN TREE LIST AND SEE WHAT COMES DOWN. YEAH. SO THIS LIST AT ONE TIME WAS, WAS BASICALLY IN A, IN A PAPER FORMAT THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED GOING ON APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING ASKED BY RESIDENTS, WHAT KIND OF TREE CAN I PLANT? WHAT KIND OF TREE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING MAGNOLIAS AND FICUS, FICUS THAT WERE INVASIVE, PEPPER TREES. AS THE MAYOR HAD ONCE SAID BEFORE WE WENT TO THIS FORMAT, WE DID GET IT ON THE ON THE WEBSITE. THIS HAS BEEN OUT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. OKAY, I DO SEE IT IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THING NOW LIST OF APPROVED TREES. BUT THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN. THIS CAN BE REFRESHED. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS INTERNALLY. WE'VE GOT NEW GRAPHICS. WE'VE GOT NEW I WOULD CALL IT MORE USER FRIENDLY FOCAL POINTS. YOU'VE SEEN OUR LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLATFORM, OUR COYOTE MANAGEMENT RESPONSE PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT KIND OF START TO TAKE ON A FORMAT THAT WILL SEEK TO APPLY. BUT THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS PHOTOGRAPHS SPECIES TYPE BOTH INFORMAL AND FORMAL AND WILL, I THINK, ADD GUIDELINES AND OTHER SUGGESTIONS YEAH. MORE PREPARE TO CATEGORIZE WHAT KINDS OF TREES MIGHT WORK BEST IN NARROW PARKWAYS VERSUS WIDER PARKWAYS. HOW? YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY. GROWTH HEIGHT IS A CONCERN THERE. SO YEAH, WE WANT TO IMPROVE UPON THIS AND PROVIDE NOT JUST A LIST OF TREES AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, BUT ALSO SOME GUIDANCE ABOUT WHERE YOU MIGHT BEST APPLY. THESE, THESE CHOICES. AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE PUSHING FOR DROUGHT TOLERANT BECAUSE WILLOWS TYPICALLY I DON'T KNOW THIS WILLOW BUT TYPICALLY WILLOWS LIKE A LOT OF WATER. I THINK WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW THIS ONE BUT. WE HAVE WHAT DOES IT SAY THERE? MODERATE TO. OH THAT'S GROWTH RATE OKAY. YEAH. WE WOULD WE WOULD PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. LET ME SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT. MAYBE ONE LAST THOUGHT IS ADDING IN DOLLAR SIGNS LIKE 5 DOLLARS SIGNS 4 DOLLAR SIGNS, 3 OR 2 DEPENDING ON THE COST. IT SAYS WATERING LOW. ASSOCIATED WITH IT. LIFETIME MAINTENANCE NUMBER. OR DO YOU WANT? ACQUISITION. ACQUISITION. [LAUGHTER] OR MAYBE YOU KNOW, IF THE LIST ISN'T SO LONG, PEOPLE COULD DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH BUT. COST ONE DOLLAR SIGN. OKAY EXACTLY. OKAY. JUST BEFORE I GO TO. ARE YOU DONE? YEAH I'M DONE THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER YOU'RE NEXT. BUT A QUICK ONE. THERE IS. THERE IS ON THE BOOKS. AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS EFFECTIVE. MARCH 2023. INSTALLING ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THE TREE PROTECTION ZONE OF PUBLIC TREES IS UNLAWFUL. RIGHT. SO WE COULD ENFORCE THIS. WE CAN ENFORCE IT WITHIN THE PROTECTION AREA. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER, AND WE'RE BASICALLY WHEN WE'RE RECEIVING APPLICATIONS, PERMIT REQUESTS, WE'RE DENYING IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. AND WE CAN GO AFTER PEOPLE. BUT WE COULD GO AFTER. YEAH, WE COULD GO AFTER WITHIN THAT CANOPY TREES OR THE PUBLIC CAN OR WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO GO AROUND IT. YEAH. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU MAYOR. WHEN I WAS IN LEADERSHIP REDONDO, OUR PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY TO GET TREES IN REDONDO BEACH. WE RAISED OVER $10,000 TO PLANT TREES AND PLANTED TREES ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTIES. AND DID I BELIEVE THERE WERE 36 INCH BOX TREES INSTEAD OF THE 24. SO THEIR TREES WERE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. BUT WHEN I DID SPEAK TO THE CITY THE COSTS WERE ON THE ORDER OF LIKE $250 TO [03:25:01] $350 PER TREE FOR A 24 INCH BOX TREE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY REASONABLE THERE. AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY VARY THAT MUCH BETWEEN. IT WASN'T LIKE THERE'S A $250 TREE AND $1,000 TREE. IT'S LIKE THEY WERE ALL PRETTY REASONABLE. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE DID GET FROM PEOPLE IS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR MORE CALIFORNIA NATIVE IN THE APPROVED TREE LIST. AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE DROUGHT TOLERANT, WHICH WAS GOOD. YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE ALSO TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CALIFORNIA NATIVE SPECIES IN THAT LIST. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF ANY OF THE ONES ON THE LIST ARE ACTUAL CALIFORNIA NATIVE TREES, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING THE LIST, I'D LIKE TO INVESTIGATE THAT AT LEAST. I LIKE THE IDEA OF INVESTIGATING THE DEVELOPMENT OF DEVELOPER INCENTIVES. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFECT OUR OWN PARKWAYS, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO INCENTIVIZE EITHER THE PLANTING OR THE MONEY FOR PLANTING OF TREES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DEVELOP ALL THE TIME AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EITHER TREES SHOW UP ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND REMAIN OR THEY FUND OUR TREE TREE FUND. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE DOING. AND I THINK WE SHOULD ACTUALLY ESTABLISH AN ACTUAL TREE FUND, NOT JUST AN ACCOUNT THAT GETS TRACKED AND MAKE IT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND CLICK A BUTTON AND DONATE. FIND OUT HOW TO PUT IT INTO THEIR ESTATE PLANNING. I DON'T SEE WHY SOME PEOPLE WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS REDONDO BEACH THAT HAVE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME WOULD SAY, HEY, LOOK, I'LL PUT IT INTO MY ESTATE. I'LL GIVE $1000 OR $2000 INTO THIS TREE FUND. IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EASY TO DO. I KNOW MY ESTATE'S GOT MONEY GOING TO THE REDONDO K9S, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING TO THE TREE FUND BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED AS A LINE ITEM. BUT IF WE HAD AN ACTUAL FUND THAT WAS SEGREGATED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DESIGNATE AND DONATE TO. AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT $10,000 A YEAR INTO THAT FUND, THAT'S A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE COMING FROM DONATIONS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY INVESTIGATE OTHERWISE FROM THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT. IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING AND WHAT CITIZENS FOR REDONDO BEACH TREES ARE RECOMMENDING IS ABOUT 80% MATCH, WHICH IS GREAT. SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'VE GOT AND YIELD FOR THE NEXT MEMBER TO SPEAK. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER JUST MENTIONED AND I ACTUALLY HAD A DISTRICT TWO RESIDENT WHO WAS IN EARLIER WHO HAD CONTACTED ME A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT SOME TREES THAT WERE PLANTED IN MEMORIAM FOR HER FAMILY MEMBERS IN VETERANS PARK. IS THERE A WAY ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE WE CAN HAVE EITHER GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS DONATE MONEY TO OUR FUND OR DONATE TREES SPECIFICALLY FOR AND MORE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SET UP NOW, OR WOULD THEY JUST HAVE TO CONTACT YOU DIRECTLY AND? YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE IT'S CALLED THE COMMEMORATIVE DONATION PROGRAM. WE ESTABLISHED IT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. AND THEN ONCE THERE'S REQUESTED INTEREST, WE EVALUATE THE LOCATION. USUALLY IT'S A WALK THROUGH FOR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PARKS. I WILL TELL YOU THERE THERE CAN BE SOME SENSITIVITY WITH THAT PARTICULAR FAMILIES MIGHT LOOK FOR A LOCATION THAT THAT COULD HAVE OTHER COMPETING INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, AT FRANKLIN PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING TO THAT POINT OF SATURATION. WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE FOR OPEN PLAY AND GATHERING AND THE LIKE. AND SO THERE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN AWKWARD DETENTE WITH, WITH, WITH THE PROSPECTIVE DONOR. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. WE'RE ALSO VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT KIND OF CREATING TOO MANY MEMORIAL PLAQUES, IF YOU WILL. THERE'S THAT CAN BE A DISTRACTION AND PARKS AND OTHER OPEN SPACE AREAS. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A BIT OF A DESIGN DANCE AS WELL. SO BUT THAT'S FOR INDIVIDUAL TREE DONATIONS. NOT NECESSARILY TO JUST GIVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER'S POINT INTO A CITY FUND. CITY TREE FUND. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS PERHAPS CREATING A, IN EFFECT, A DONOR WALL THAT WOULD BE TRACKED ELECTRONICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN HARDSCAPE, SO TO SPEAK. SO THERE COULD BE OTHER WAYS TO RECOGNIZE FOLKS WHO DO DONATE. [03:30:02] AND OTHER THAN JUST PHYSICAL HARDWARE. SO, SO THE LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO SUPPORT TREES IN REDONDO WOULD BE TO GIVE DIRECTLY TO THIS FUND AND THEN LET THE CITY ALLOCATE WHERE THE TREES ARE, WHAT TYPES OF TREES, AND DO INSTALLATION. YEAH. AND I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO EXPAND ON OUR SORT OF KNOWN INVENTORY. RIGHT? WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED ROUGHLY 2500 TREE WELL LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR PLANTING IN, YOU KNOW, CITY CONTROLLED AREAS, WHETHER IT BE RIGHTS OF WAY OR OR PARKS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY ELABORATE ON THAT, PRIORITIZE THAT, EVEN PUT THAT INTO KIND OF BUCKETS OF HIGH PRIORITY PRIORITY. AND THEN THEN MAYBE IN THE LOWER AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE CONFLICT WITH ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS OR LIKE, THAT'S MAYBE NOT FRESH OUT OF THE GATE, BUT I THINK WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INVENTORY THAT FURTHER AND THEN ALIGN, YOU KNOW, MATCH DONATIONS WITH THOSE LOCATIONS PROSPECTIVELY. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THE HANGING FRUIT TO, AGAIN, LET THE COMMUNITY START TO GET INVOLVED WITH RAISING MONEY TO PUT MORE TREES IN REDONDO. AND WE CAN PRIORITIZE WHERE THOSE TREES ARE. YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSELL THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S REFERENCE IN THE STAFF REPORT TO THE TREE REPLENISHMENT ACCOUNT THAT WAS LARGELY FUNDED THROUGH IN EFFECT, RESTITUTION. RIGHT? BEFORE OUR TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED. THERE'D BE A DEVELOPMENT FEE EFFECTIVELY PAID IN LIEU WHEN THERE'S A REMOVAL OF A PARKWAY TREE TO MAKE WAY FOR A NEW DRIVEWAY, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER NEW CONSTRUCTION MIGHT OCCUR, OUR INVENTORY WOULD PLACE A VALUE ON THAT TREE. WE WOULD COLLECT THAT FEE, PUT IT IN THE FUND. WE WOULD DRAW AGAINST THAT FUND TO THEN ADD NEW TREES ELSEWHERE IN THE PARKWAY. WE'VE BEEN SO AGGRESSIVE IN PLANTING, WE'VE DEPLETED THAT ACCOUNT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT IN THAT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE IN DENYING REQUESTS TO REMOVE TREES FOR DRIVEWAY CUTS AND OTHER SORT OF INSTALLATIONS. SO WHICH IS A GOOD THING. THAT MEANS WE'RE PROTECTING AND PRESERVING MORE MATURE PARKWAY TREES. IN ORDER TO SORT OF REPLACE THAT ACCOUNT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THIS KIND OF DONOR CAPACITY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE SINGLE, THE OFF THE ANNUALIZED BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS THE COUNCIL HAS HAD TO STIMULATE SUPPLEMENTAL TREE PLANTING HAVE ALSO BEEN A RESOURCE FOR US TO DRAW AGAINST AND INSTALL AND CREATE NET. A NET INCREASE TO OUR TREE INVENTORY. SO IT'S WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR ANNUAL TREE PLANTING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE INFINITE FUNDS TO DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THIS ONE, DO YOU? NO, I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, GENERAL RECEIVING FILE HERE, DIRECTION ON SOME OF THE EFFORTS. I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING SOME INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS A DONOR PROGRAM. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER. EXPAND ON THAT. AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF UPDATING OUR GUIDELINES. THE USER FRIENDLINESS AND THE PRESENTATION OF MOST MATERIALS THAT THAT'S IN OUR NORMAL WORK PLAN. AND UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFICALLY YOU'D LIKE US TO DO, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE. CATCHING OF WHAT WE'VE GOT. YEAH. IDENTIFICATION. REALLY SCRUB THE TREE LIST AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A BETTER LIST OF MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES. ESTABLISH LOOKING INTO A FUND OR A WAY TO DONATE. RIGHT. AND WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC ON RAISING MONEY TO DONATE SPECIFICALLY FOR TREES IN REDONDO. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EDUCATION ON THERE. THAT'S NOT THAT HARD TO DO. RIGHT. I MEAN, I'LL HELP WITH WEBSITE CONTENT ALONG THOSE LINES IF WE CAN WORK ON THAT. YEAH. I THINK ONCE WE GET THE DOCUMENTS UPDATED AND OUR BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES LAID OUT VERY PLAINLY IN A PRESENTABLE WAY, I THINK THE EDUCATION BECOMES REALLY EASY. SOME OF THE DATA ON TO HEAR WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE TREES, BUT PRESENTED IN A WEB TYPE FORMAT THAT'S NOT. YEAH AND BRINGING IT FORWARD SO IT'S EASIER TO FIND. IT'S KIND OF BURIED WITH TREE MAINTENANCE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS NOT WHERE YOU THINK TO GO LOOK FOR IT MAYBE. AND WE SHOULDN'T BE FINDING THINGS YOU DON'T WANT, LIKE [LAUGHTER]. WHATEVER THAT MATRIX WAS. I'M GOING TO GIVE THAT TO MY 8 YEAR OLD. OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE PUBLIC INPUT. CAN YOU GRAB THAT? OH. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. OKAY. FIRST IS LAURA MACMORRAN AND THEN HOLLY OSBORNE. HOLLY STILL HERE? OH, THERE SHE IS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF AND FELLOW CITIZENS. MY NAME IS LAURA MACMORRAN AND I'M A REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT. AND MY COMMENTS PROBABLY NOT EVEN GOING TO READ THEM BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS. AND I'M REALLY GLAD WE WENT LAST, BECAUSE LOOKING AT WHAT WAS DONE FOR THE CIRCULATION AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL REINFORCED, A THOUGHT I'VE HAD IS WE'RE TAKING THIS ISSUE, THIS VERY IMPORTANT CITY WIDE ISSUE AND TRYING TO RESOLVE SOMETHING IN A HEARING. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH. THERE'S NO SURVEYS OF RESIDENTS. [03:35:02] THERE'S NO WORKSHOPS OR STUDY SESSIONS OR EVEN EVEN AT BEST, A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REMOVE. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT STAFF ON THIS FINE PRESENTATION. THEY'RE FINE STAFF REPORT AND COOPERATION. BUT TO REMOVE PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM THIS CONVERSATION WITHOUT FURTHER EXPLORATION IS SHORTCHANGING THE CITY. AND HERE'S WHY. IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND I ADVOCATE THAT LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES NUMBER FOUR AND THAT LET ME PAUSE THAT THOUGHT. THAT LIST WAS CREATED AT OUR ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTEE BREAKOUT BRAINSTORMING, AND IT WAS CREATED BY THE ADVOCACY AND POLICY GROUP WITH SOME AUGMENTATION, BUT THAT LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES WHERE OUR CODE IS LACKING, SORELY LACKING. IT HAS FIVE AT BEST PROVISIONS, AND NONE OF THEM ARE TOUCHING ON MULTIFAMILY WITHOUT PARKWAYS IN DISTRICT THREE. DISTRICT FOUR. DISTRICT FIVE. YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE PARKWAYS IN FRONT OF THEM. SO IF YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THEIR FRONT YARDS AND REQUIRING A TREE, THEY CAN BE TREELESS JUST LIKE IT IS ON NELSON. BETWEEN FELTON AND THE POWER LINE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET. NOT A SINGLE STREET TREE. THIS IS THE RISK. IT'S A BIG RISK. SO I DO THINK THERE IS A LOT MORE OPENNESS. I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE OPEN MINDED. I THINK WE HAVE TO COLLABORATE TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS A ISSUE. IT'S TOO IMPORTANT TO WRAP UP WITH A NEAT BOW AT ONE MEETING AND SAY, WE HAVE A DONOR FUND, WE HAVE A NEW STREET. WE HAVE A NEW TREE LIST, OR WE'RE GOING TO AUGMENT IT. IT'S MORE THAN THAT. IT'S SO MUCH MORE. WE NEED TRANSPARENT POLICIES. WE NEED CONCURRENT IMPROVEMENTS. WE NEED IDEAS FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BECAUSE THOSE TREES THAT HAVE FELLED WERE ON. AND THAT TREE LOSS WAS NOT JUST PUBLIC PROPERTY, IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR WHICH WE HAVE NO DATA FOR. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR TREE CANOPY LOSS IS ALSO COMING FROM. SO I ASK YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOLLY OSBORNE AND SOMEONE WHO FORGOT TO PUT THEIR NAME, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE YOU, JIM MUELLER. DID YOU PUT IN A CARD? [LAUGHTER] IT HAS A SIGNATURE, BUT NO NAME. BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM. [LAUGHTER]. OKAY. CAN YOU READ THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE JIM MUELLER TO ME. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, HOLLY OSBORNE. DISTRICT FIVE. THERE IS A BILL AB 2251 THAT WAS PASSED IN 2022. THE BILL REQUIRES URBAN AREAS TO PLAN TO INCREASE THEIR TREE CANOPY. THE GOAL IS AN INCREASE BY 10% BY THE YEAR 2035. I READ YOUR ATTACHMENTS AND I. I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU'VE EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH YOU PLAN TO INCREASE IT. I HAVE A SCREENSHOT AT THE BILL AT THE BOTTOM OF MY SUBMISSION. A TREE CANOPY IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS AREA OF CLIMATE CHANGE. FOR EXAMPLE, JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM ME AT MY LATITUDE IN NORTH REDONDO, A TEMPERATURE OF 74°F WAS RECORDED IN THE SHADE AND 87°F NOT IN THE SHADE. THE 17 DEGREE DIFFERENCE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SMALL KID BEING ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE VERSUS NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY, AND IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ELDERLY PERSON BEING ABLE TO WALK OUTSIDE VERSUS NOT WALK OUTSIDE. AND IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PERSON WHO DOESN'T SWEAT AND WHOSE BUTT TO BODY TEMPERATURE GOES UP WHEN IT'S HOT. IT'S THE DIFFERENCE. I HAVE TO PLOT WHERE THE TREES ARE WHEN I GO OUT WALKING WHEN IT'S HOT. OKAY? THE CANOPY BILL. I WAS TALKING ABOUT MYSELF. THE CANOPY BILL SEEMS IN CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THE RECENT STATE LAWS NARROWING SETBACKS AND SETBACKS ARE WHERE TREES CAN BE PLANTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS FOR OUR CITY AND CITIZENS TO TAKE, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY PROPOSED. NEXT YEAR IS AN ELECTION YEAR. ALL CANDIDATES FOR SENATOR ALLEN'S OFFICE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER MURATSUCHI OFFICE SHOULD BE ASKED OR DRILLED ON WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO TO RESOLVE THIS CONFLICT. THE CITY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RESTORE THEIR SETBACKS TO WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SET LOT COVERAGE LIMITS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE BEFORE BECAUSE GREEN GRASS IS ALSO ESSENTIAL FOR COOLING. ASK THE CANDIDATES IF THEY ARE GOING TO WORK FOR THOSE GOALS AND GET NEIGHBORING CITIES, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE SAME CANDIDATES DISTRICTS, [03:40:04] TO JOIN US. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DONATION FORM, MAYBE PUT IT TO THEIR CANDIDATE FUND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RECORD THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY, THANKS. JIM, DID YOU TURN IN A CARD ON THIS ONE? YEAH I DID YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S YOU. [LAUGHTER] I DIDN'T NEED TO PUT MY NAME NOW. [LAUGHTER]. JIM MUELLER, DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU. I COME FROM NEW MEXICO, SO I KNOW WHAT A LANDSCAPE WITH NO TREES IS LIKE. SAND AND ROCKS BROILING IN THE SUN. A FRIEND ONCE REFERRED TO THIS TERRAIN AS KITTY LITTER, BUT THE ROUTE HE DROVE DIDN'T GO THROUGH ANY OF NEW MEXICO'S MATURE FORESTS. I ROAMED THOSE FORESTS UNDER THE COOL SHADE OF TALL TREES. WE WANT LOTS OF TREES IN REDONDO BEACH AND WE DO NOT WANT KITTY LITTER. PUBLIC LAND IS LESS THAN 27% OF TOTAL AREA OF OUR CITY, AND MUCH OF THAT IS PAVED OVER TO ENSURE THAT TREES ARE PLENTIFUL AND WE GET THE OUR PERCENT UP OF CANOPY, THE CITY MUST ENCOURAGE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS TO PLANT AND CARE FOR TREES. OUR DECLINE IN TOTAL CANOPY COULD EASILY BE DUE TO THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS CLEAR CUT TREES BEFORE THEY START TO BUILD. IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED CODE WOULD WIDEN THE DEFINITION OF A HERITAGE TREE OR SHOULD WIDEN THE DEFINITION OF A HERITAGE TREE TO INCLUDE SPECIES THAT ARE SMALLER AT FULL MATURITY THAN THE CODIFIED DEFINITION, AND SPECIFY NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, PRESERVE EXISTING TREES AND LEAVE ROOM INCLUDE THE PLANTING OF NEW TREES. YOU, THE STEWARDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, MUST HELP THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY HAS AN INTEREST IN HOW PRIVATE PROPERTY IS MANAGED. THOSE RESIDENTS WHO INSIST THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THE TREES IN THEIR ON THEIR PROPERTY, NEED TO MOVE TO A WILDERNESS AREA WHERE THEY CAN LUMBERJACK ALL THEY WANT. BUT LIVING IN REDONDO BEACH CLOSE TO NEIGHBORS, THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO AMEND THE PROPOSED CODE TO NOT ONLY PROTECTING A WIDER VARIETY OF TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO INCENTIVIZE PLANTING MORE AND DO THIS FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL LIVE IN REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, PAMELA SUND OR SUND? AND THEN WENDY PRATT. MAY I SPEAK? DID I CALL YOUR NAME? NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CARDS. WELL, YOU CAN SPEAK AFTER THE CARDS. WE DO CARDS FIRST. OKAY. WE DO CARDS FIRST, SIR. OKAY I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A CARD. PAMELA SUND OR SUND? IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT. AND THEN WENDY PRATT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PAMELA SUND. I'M A 36-YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR WHAT YOU DO. I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. THE PRACTICE OF. AND POLICIES REGARDING THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY. CITY STAFF HAS SUBMITTED AN ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT IN RESPONSE TO THE STRATEGIC GOAL 5.1 ADVANCING ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT, STAFF. IT WAS VERY GOOD. THE TREES OF REDONDO BEACH ARE IMPORTANT TO EVERY CITIZEN, AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. ITS POLICIES, PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES. TREES PROVIDE SHADE. THEY REDUCE CARBON IN THE AIR, THEY CAPTURE POLLUTION IN THEIR ROOTS AND THEY IMPROVE ESTHETICS. PROBABLY THE THING THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PASS THROUGH OUR CITY EVERY DAY. BY ADDING TREES, WE CAN IMPROVE THE LOOK OF OUR CITY AND THE QUALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IMPROVED ESTHETICS IN OUR COMMERCIAL AND CITY OWNED PROPERTIES INCREASE THE CHANCE OF PEOPLE STOPPING TO USE THE SERVICES BY THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR CITY, THEREBY INCREASING OUR TAX REVENUE. IMPROVING OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MORE TREES, IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADDS TO THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. CURRENTLY, THE CITY HAS A TREE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT ADDRESS PRIVATE PROPERTY AT ALL. AS WE'VE MENTIONED, 73% OF REDONDO BEACH PROPERTY IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT 73%, NOT JUST THE 27%. TREES PROVIDE THE SHADE, THE COOLING. LOTS OF GREAT THINGS. I'VE SEEN A 50 PLUS YEAR OLD TREE TAKEN DOWN IN MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD, AND THREE HOUSES PUT UP WHERE THERE WAS ONCE A BIG BEAUTIFUL TREE AND ONE HOUSE. NOW THAT TREE IS GONE FOREVER. [03:45:01] SO THERE ARE NO EASY ANSWERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK CREATIVELY, AND THE CITY NEEDS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT INDISCRIMINATELY CUTTING DOWN TREES AND THAT WE ARE PLANNING TREES ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. TREES TAKE YEARS TO MATURE AND PROVIDE BENEFITS. WE MUST START NOW TO ENSURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD TO RETIRE IN THAT HAS TREES. I BELIEVE THE MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING TREES SHOULD BE REWRITTEN AND ADOPTED TO INCLUDE POLICIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK OUR FINANCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE CONCERNS SHOULD GET IN THE WAY OF THAT. WE NEED TO IMPROVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WENDY PRATT AND THEN MAYOR LANG. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WENDY PRATT. I'M FROM DISTRICT TWO. I GREW UP ON THE EAST COAST IN CONNECTICUT, SURROUNDED BY LOTS OF TREES AND ROCKY BEACHES ON LONG ISLAND SOUND. IT WAS THE LUSH CANOPY OF THE MATURE TREE, SHADE TREES, AND THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, YARDS AND PROXIMITY TO THE OCEAN THAT CONVINCED ME TO MOVE TO REDONDO BEACH 25 YEARS AGO, WHEN THE CITY IMPLEMENTED ITS TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE A FEW YEARS AGO. I WAS PROUD TO RESIDE IN A TREE CITY, USA, COMMITTED TO THE ENHANCEMENT OF CITY TREES AS A VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'VE FOLLOWED LOCAL POLITICS OVER THE YEARS AND OBSERVED JUST HOW IMPORTANT TREES AND OPEN GREEN SPACES ARE TO ALL OF US WHO ARE FORTUNATE TO LIVE AND WORK IN REDONDO BEACH. MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE NOTICED THE NUMBER OF NEW TREES IN THE CITY. THE CITY HAS PLANTED ON MY BLOCK, THE 500 NORTH LUCIA BLOCK, IN THIS CASE THE YOUNG MAGNOLIA TREES WERE PLANTED ON TWO ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND A THIRD TREE DOWN THE STREET ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL PARKWAYS. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THESE HOMEOWNERS WERE NOT CONSULTED OR GIVEN ANY INSTRUCTIONS AS TO HOW TO PROPERLY CARE FOR THESE TREES. I'M NOT SURE IF THESE RESIDENTS EVEN HAVE ADEQUATE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ON THEIR PARKWAY. SADLY, ALL THREE TREES DIED IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY THE CITY NEEDS TO ADOPT A MORE TREE CENTRIC REVIEW, REVIEWS AND PROCESSES TO CLARIFY, EXPAND, AND MANAGE THE TREE CANOPY IN REDONDO BEACH. WHILE I APPLAUD THE PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS FOR DIRECTING THEIR STAFF TO INVENTORY THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY AND IDENTIFYING THOSE ALMOST 2500 VACANT TREE LOCATIONS ALONG THE CITY PARKWAYS, AND FOR ALSO PLANTING NEARLY A THOUSAND TREES IN THE PAST SIX YEARS. MY HOPE IS THAT TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR COMMUNITY DRIVEN GROUPS, SUCH AS CITIZENS FOR REDONDO TREES TO SHARE INFORMATION AND HELP CITY OFFICIALS COME UP WITH VIABLE PROGRAMS AND PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS TO PRESERVE AND RESTORE THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY. ADDITIONALLY, WE CAN LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES AND ADD TRANSPARENT AND OBJECTIVE TREE PLANTING STANDARDS TO OUR CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE AND ORDINANCE. IN CONCLUSION, OUR GROUP IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST AND SUPPORT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO HELP DEVELOP AND PROMOTE A TRUE CULTURE OF TREE CANOPY AWARENESS AMONG CITY RESIDENTS. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MARA LANG AND THEN DAVID GRITTEN. AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. HI, MARA. HI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS MARA LANG, AND I AM GLAD TO BE HERE AGAIN TODAY TALKING ABOUT TREES. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE NEW GROUP CITIZENS FOR REDONDO BEACH AND TREES. AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE NOW AN INITIATIVE OF SOUTH BAY PARKLAND CONSERVANCY. THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR DIRECTING STAFF TO EXPLORE THE TREE CANOPY EXPANSION. THE REPORT, PREPARED BY PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND DIRECTOR ANDY, WAS VERY THOROUGH. I'M ENCOURAGED TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IN THIS REPORT IS NOW PART OF THEIR WORKING KNOWLEDGE, WHETHER IT'S NEW INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT OR SOMETHING THEY WERE ALREADY AWARE OF. WE NOW KNOW THAT THEY KNOW. AND I'M ALSO ENCOURAGED THAT OUR NEW FORESTRY MANAGER BRINGS COMPREHENSIVE EXPERIENCE TO THIS WORK AS WELL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING COUNCIL DISCUSS THE REPORT AND TAKE THE IMPORTANT AND ESSENTIAL STEP IN INVESTING IN OUR CITY'S CLIMATE RESILIENCE BY PRIORITIZING AND FUNDING A LONG TERM URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN A PRIORITY PLAN AND SHORT TERM QUICK ACTION PLAN REFERRED TO IN THE STAFF REPORT. [03:50:03] THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS FROM THE REPORT THAT I WANT TO SPEAK ON. WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY PROTECTIONS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SAID A LOT TO COUNCIL. I WAS PRESENT FOR THAT DISCUSSION, AND IT WAS UPSETTING TO SAY THE LEAST. WHAT I THINK WAS NOT DISCUSSED FURTHER IS THAT THERE'S VARYING DEGREES OF PROTECTION ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PROTECTED IN THE REAR. PROTECT ON THE SIDE, PROTECT IN THE FRONT. IT CAN BE WE, YOU KNOW, APPROVED THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY REQUIRED A TREE IN THE FRONT YARD AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND THAT TREE IS NOW PROTECTED MOVING FORWARD. SO TOMORROW IT WOULD BE ONE TREE THAT'S PROTECTED. THE NEXT DAY A DEVELOPMENT IS IS FINISHED AND THAT TREE IS PROTECTED. SO IT'S A VERY GRADUAL PROTECTION OF TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND WE CAN START IN THE FRONT YARD. SO THAT'S JUST A SMALL NOTE. SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE COUNCIL TO EXPLORE IS A CANOPY COMMITTEE. SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THAT INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL. HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO. AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD SO MANY COMMISSIONS AND THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THAT WOULD OVERWHELM STAFF TO BRING ON ANOTHER COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER. NOW WE'VE PARED DOWN OUR COMMISSIONS, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WITH STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN WORK ON CREATIVE FUNDING SOLUTIONS, JUST LIKE THAT ART FUND THAT WE HAD THAT HAD LIKE $1 MILLION IN IT. I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO WITH $1 MILLION FOR TREES? SO ANYWAY, MY TIME IS UP, BUT THAT'S MY NOTE. THANK YOU. DAVID GRITTEN AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE THAT DOESN'T. YOU CAN STILL COME UP AND SPEAK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CARD AND GO AHEAD. AND MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. I WASN'T TRYING TO JUMP THE LINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S OKAY. SO MY NAME IS DAVID GRITTEN. I LIVE IN HERMOSA BEACH, A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM THE REDONDO BORDER, NEAR, I GUESS, HAYNES AND HARPER. AND I'M ALSO ON THE HERMOSA BEACH PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, AND WE HEAR A LOT OF REQUESTS TO REMOVE TREES FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO I'LL FOCUS ON, ON THAT ASPECT. OH, AND ADMITTEDLY, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO LEARN AND SEE WHAT I CAN GLEAN AND TAKE BACK TO THE NEXT DOOR. AND BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF I CAN ADD ANYTHING OF VALUE, I CAN. IF THERE'S NOT AN APPETITE TO DO A LOT IN THE PRIVATE AREA, THEN THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE PUBLIC AREA. YOU'VE GOT YOUR PARKS, AND THEN THAT WOULD BRING US TO A FOCUS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF EXHAUSTED OR NOT, OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO PLANT WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND ALSO IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH PLANTING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH COULD INCLUDE PERHAPS A RESISTANCE BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO WANT TO ACCOMMODATE A TREE THERE. AND AND SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY IT'S NOT PURE PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT NONETHELESS IT'S KIND OF GETS INTO A GRAY AREA THERE. SO, SO MAYBE UNDERSTANDING THAT BETTER WOULD WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES THERE ARE IN THAT AREA, IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO FOCUS ON, TO TRY TO TRY TO MAKE PROGRESS THERE. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT I'VE COME TO LOOK AT IT AS KIND OF A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COSTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES INVOLVED. THERE'S THE COST OF THE TREE ITSELF, AND THEN THERE'S THE MAINTENANCE. I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE, IF NOT ALL, IS DONE BY THE CITY. BUT THEN I'M HEARING TALK ABOUT DO THEY HAVE SPRINKLERS THERE? SO MAYBE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AS TO HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP OR STRENGTHEN A COLLABORATION, HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO WANT TO ACCEPT A TREE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE SO-CALLED CARROT AND STICK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CARROT VERSUS STICK IN DOING THAT. SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT POLICIES ARE AND AREN'T WORKING. MY GENERAL IMPRESSION IS I THINK YOU ARE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HERE. I THINK YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY STRONG TREE ORDINANCE. I LOOKED AT IT THOROUGHLY. YOU'VE GOT A GOOD TREE LIST. YOUR STAFF SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD AWARENESS AS TO HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. [03:55:03] AND SO THERE ARE SOME REASONS TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE PROGRESS THAT YOU CAN MAKE HERE. BUT KEEP MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? GEORGETTE GANTNER DISTRICT TWO. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR HAVING PROVIDED THREE TREES ON A PARKWAY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AFTER WE ASKED, YOU GUYS WERE TOTALLY COOPERATIVE AND IT WAS AT YOUR EXPENSE. BUT IT WAS ALSO WITH A CAVEAT THAT I MADE THE COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THOSE TREES WERE WATERED. AND THEY STAND TO THIS DAY, AND I THINK THERE ARE AT LEAST ONE IS SEVEN AND THE OTHER, I THINK THE OTHERS ARE FIVE YEARS OLD. THAT IS A BIG DEAL. IF PEOPLE HAVE TREES ON THE PARKWAY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. SOME COMMUNICATION, POSSIBLY IF IT'S A NEW PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE MADE WITH THAT RESIDENT TO SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO OR THIS TREE WILL DIE. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDED. AS FAR AS TREES YEAH. FICUS. FORGET IT. PALM TREES. FORGET IT. AND ALSO MAGNOLIAS JUST SHED LIKE CRAZY AND THEY PROVIDE NOTHING. SO I HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS SHYING AWAY FROM THOSE. THERE'S A PARKWAY THAT IS BETWEEN PCH AND GERTRUDA ON CARNELIAN. THAT'S REALLY A LONG PARKWAY WITH NO. THERE'S BEEN NOTHING THERE AT ALL. AND IT'S NEAR MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. I KNOW SHE WOULDN'T WATER THE TREES, BUT I WOULD. I'D CARRY BUCKETS OF WATER HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT IT'S NOT JUST ME. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL HERE. THAT ACROSS FROM JOE'S DINER. AT SOME POINT, MAYBE THE CITY CAN FIND A WAY TO POSSIBLY AFFORD TO PUT SOME TREES IN, AND I WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEM. THAT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SIT OUTSIDE OF JOE'S AND THERE'S THE COFFEE PLACE. IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL ENHANCEMENT IN THAT AREA. ALSO, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THE WALKWAY THAT'S JUST OUT HERE BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND CITY HALL REALLY NEEDS [LAUGHTER] SOME LOVE. THERE'S A LOT OF PLANTS THAT ARE FINE THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT MAYBE JUST A FEW SMALLISH TREES OR SHRUBS COULD BE ADDED EVERY TIME I WALK THROUGH. I WALK THROUGH THERE. EVERY TIME WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS, I GO, OH, JUST LET ME DO IT. GIVE ME A RAKE. LET ME, LET ME GO OUT AND I'LL DO IT. [LAUGHTER]. I'LL PUT SUCCULENTS. I MEAN, THERE'S SO WONDERFUL. ANYWAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT STEP FORWARD. EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. AS USUAL, EVERYBODY SOUNDS SOUNDS ORGANIZED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? AND THANKS FOR USING THE WAVE TO ENDS. APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE TWO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. LAURA DUKE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. ARE YOU THERE, LAURA? THANK YOU. YEP. I'M HERE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, LAURA DUKE, DISTRICT THREE. I'M EXCITED THAT REDONDO BEACH IS TAKING THIS MUCH NEEDED INTEREST IN THE LACK OF TREES AND ROBUST TREE CANOPIES IN OUR CITY. I HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WORK OUT A SOLID PLAN THAT INCLUDES EDUCATING PEOPLE. TREES PROVIDE COOLNESS, MAKE THE LIGHT LESS HARSH, AND WHAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN SEEING IT IS MAKING THE AIR YOU'RE BREATHING CLEANER. THE PRESENCE OF TREES MAKE PEOPLE CALM, AND IN TODAY'S WORLD, WE COULD USE MORE OF THAT. SOMETIMES TREE REMOVAL IS JUSTIFIED, LIKE IF IT'S DISEASED, BUT OTHER TIMES IT'S BECAUSE A HOMEOWNER DOESN'T LIKE THE LOOKS OF A TREE, OR THE COST OF MAINTAINING IT WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT WHAT TREES CAN GIVE US. LAURA MACMORRAN OF CITIZENS FOR REDONDO TREES, SPOKE AT A MEETING WITH THE FRIENDS OF REDONDO BEACH ARTS GROUP IN OCTOBER, AND SOMETHING SHE SAID THAT NIGHT REALLY STRUCK STUCK WITH ME AND GAVE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AN "AHA" MOMENT. I'M PARAPHRASING, BUT SHE POINTED OUT THAT MANY PEOPLE DISMISS TREES BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE TIME AND EFFORT, A LITTLE MONEY AND MAINTENANCE. SHE SAID, WELL, DOESN'T ANYTHING NICE WORTH HAVING AROUND REQUIRE THOSE THINGS? AND SHOULDN'T WE BE MAKING THE PROPER INVESTMENT TO REAP ALL THE BENEFITS WE GET FROM THRIVING TREES? THINK ABOUT KIDS. THINK ABOUT YOUR PETS. ANY LIVING THING THAT WE NEED PROPER TO CARE FOR PROPERLY AND TO HELP HELP IT TO SUCCEED. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS A RESULT. IF PEOPLE STOP TO THINK IN THESE TERMS, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SO QUICK TO CHOP DOWN TREES OR TO BE SO RELUCTANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THEM. THAT'S TRUE OF CITIZENS AND THE CITY DECISION MAKERS. I SUGGEST LEARNING YOURSELVES HOW OTHER CITIES WITH HEALTHY TREE CANOPIES DO IT. EDUCATION PROGRAMS, EVEN IN THE SCHOOLS. ALSO EDUCATING EVERYONE WHO IS IMPROVING THEIR PROPERTIES. THAT GOES FOR HOMEOWNERS AND BIG DEVELOPERS. YOU COULD START BY INCLUDING THE BENEFIT OF TREES ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND ALSO IN BUILDING AND PLANNING INFORMATION. MAKE IT EASY TO SEE THE RECOMMENDED TREES THAT DO WELL HERE, WITH SHALLOW ROOT SYSTEMS THAT DON'T INTERFERE WITH SIDEWALKS AND PLUMBING. AND PICTURES OF THEM ALL. THINK OF INCENTIVIZING FOR PLANTING TREES OR APPLYING FINES IF TREES ARE NOT PLANTED. LEGADO IS AN EXAMPLE. REQUIRE A TREE PLAN THAT DEVELOPERS MUST ADHERE TO OR BE FINED. [04:00:07] IF THERE WERE A SHADE TREE REQUIREMENT FOR ALL MALL OPERATORS, IT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER. A GOOD EXAMPLE IS RIGHT NOW AT THE REDONDO SHORES MALL, RIGHT THERE BETWEEN RIGHT AT PCH AND BERYL. IT'S ALMOST DONE. WILL THE EXTENT OF THEIR FOLIAGE ARE SMALL SHRUBS AND A FEW PALM TREES? IT GIVES A PARKING WASTELAND FEEL AND SHADE TREES ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED THERE. ALSO, YES TO MORE TREE MEDIANS. REGARDING THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, DIAMOND IS A MASSIVELY WIDE LANE AND COULD EASILY HAVE A MEDIAN SWATH OF TREES. EVEN WITH THAT NEW BIKE LANE IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS DON'T MAKE LANDSCAPING A SAD AFTERTHOUGHT. OTHER CITIES DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT. OKAY THANKS, LAURA, I APOLOGIZE YOUR TIME IS UP. THAT'S OKAY THANKS FOR THE TIME. AND YOU SAID ONE MORE? YES, MARCY GUILLERMO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND BEGIN. YES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MARCY GUILLERMO FROM DISTRICT ONE. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMENTERS AND COMMENTS. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT THE CITY ADOPT A CLEAR POLICY TO PREVENT UTILITY BOXES FROM BEING PLACED IN OUR PARKWAYS, AND TO CORRECT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST THAT HAVE PREVENTED US FROM PLANTING TREES BECAUSE THESE UTILITY BOXES AND THEIR CABLES RUNNING BENEATH THEM NOW SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PUBLIC PARKWAYS. PARKWAYS ARE NOT EMPTY STRIPS OF LAND. THEY ARE ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR CITY'S GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS WHERE WE PLANT TREES, CAPTURE STORM WATER, AND CREATED THE SHADED, WALKABLE STREETS THAT YOU AND I AND VISITORS WANT, WANT, AND DESERVE. NOT JUST TODAY, BUT FOR DECADES TO COME. UNFORTUNATELY, PAST APPROVALS HAVE ALLOWED OVERSIZE UTILITY BOXES TO BE PLACED WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE LONG TERM IMPACTS ON OUR STREETSCAPE. THE CITY NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SYSTEM, AND THAT'S NOT WORKING AND WE NEED TO FIX IT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY TO TAKE FOUR SIMPLE ACTIONS. FIRST, ADOPT A POLICY OR ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS NEW UTILITY BOXES IN PARKWAYS, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE THEY WOULD ELIMINATE TREE PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES. SECOND, DIRECT UTILITY COMPANIES TO USE ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS SUCH AS ALLEYS, COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL SETBACKS, UNDERGROUND BOXES WHERE FEASIBLE, OR EASEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF COMMUNITY GREEN SPACES. THIRD, DEVELOP A PLAN TO ADDRESS EXISTING PROBLEM LOCATIONS. EVEN IF WE CAN'T MOVE EVERY UTILITY BOX, WE CAN PRIORITIZE HIGH VALUE CORRIDORS WHERE TREE CANOPY HAS BEEN LOST AND NEGOTIATE WITH UTILITIES TO RELOCATE EQUIPMENT OR REDUCE THEIR IMPACTS OVER TIME. FOUR LET'S BE MINDFUL AND COMMIT TO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. THE CITY SHOULD NOTIFY RESIDENTS BEFORE APPROVING ANY NEW NEW UTILITY EQUIPMENT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES OR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKWAYS. LET'S BE MINDFUL. THIS IS A SOLVABLE PROBLEM. OUR CITIES HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ESTABLISHED THESE RULES. OTHER CITIES HAVE ESTABLISHED THESE RULES, AND UTILITIES HAVE ADAPTED. WE SIMPLY NEED TO PROTECT OUR LIMITED PUBLIC SPACE AND MAKE TREE CANOPY A PRIORITY. AGAIN, OUR PARKWAYS SHOULD BE FOR PEOPLE AND FOR TREES. OKAY MARCY YOUR TIME. YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M SORRY. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO ONE ELSE. BUT THERE ARE THREE ECOMMENTS. ONE IN SUPPORT, ONE NEUTRAL, ONE OPPOSED. OKAY THANK YOU. MARC, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP FOR A SECOND? WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES. WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITY? DO YOU HAVE ANY TEETH IN ANY ANYTHING WE'VE GOT OUT THERE TO GET PEOPLE, GET DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN TREES. SO IT'S PRETTY LIMITED THAT OUR ZONING CODE REQUIRES A LANDSCAPE PLAN BASED ON THE EXTENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR TREES ON SITE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY PER SE. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS TO POTENTIALLY PLACE THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BASED ON CERTAIN TRIGGERS. BUT THE CITY'S. OVERALL LIKE FRONT SETBACKS AND REAR SETBACKS. NO. SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN ENFORCE TO? THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A LANDSCAPE PLAN AND IT HAS TO MEET THE WELO STANDARDS. [04:05:06] BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR TREES OR A CERTAIN TYPE OF TREE OR NUMBER. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN THE HOUSING GUIDELINES WERE BEING CONSIDERED, MAYBE THIS IS BEFORE YOUR TIME BECAUSE IT WAS BEFORE I WAS MAYOR. BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A SCORING SYSTEM FOR APPROVING LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT INCLUDE INCLUDED ASSESSMENT OF THE TYPES OF PLANTS AND TREES. BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOT THAT DOWN AT THAT TIME. IS THAT ACCURATE OR DO YOU RECALL? AND THAT DOES PREDATE MY TIME WITH THE CITY. I KNOW THERE WERE MODIFICATIONS TO THE WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE OBJECTIVE RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS. YEAH, I THINK THERE WAS A SCORING SYSTEM. YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT IN THE DOCUMENT. SO IT PROBABLY WAS REMOVED IS MY ASSUMPTION. MIKE, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? THANKS, MARC THAT'S ALL I HAD. YEAH, VAGUELY. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE PRACTICE, AT LEAST IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PERTAINING TO THAT APPROVAL, HAS BEEN WHERE THERE'S ROOM IN THE FRONT SETBACK TO REQUIRE THE PLANTING OF A PRIVATE TREE. THAT'S BEEN HOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS EVALUATED THOSE LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUESTS. AND THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS. BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ADDITIONAL TEETH, IF THERE IF IT WERE TO BE REMOVED WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME OR KIND OF THE MAINTENANCE STANDARD AND THE LIKE, THAT WAS THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD WHEN WE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED THE LAST DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WAS ULTIMATELY ADOPTED IN 2023. WE HAD WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ALONG THESE LINES. IT WAS A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION. AND AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS. IT WASN'T AS IF WE DIDN'T RECENTLY EVALUATE THESE VARIOUS OPTIONS. SO I WOULD ADD THAT, BUT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME DID AND HAS IN PRACTICE, I THINK, TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THE PLANTING OF TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY IN THAT FRONT SETBACK WHERE WHERE POSSIBLE. OKAY THANKS. I THINK THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT I'M PRETTY PRO-ENVIRONMENT AND SO. SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD, BUT I DON'T SENSE FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU FOLKS THAT YOU WANT TO START DELVING INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, IS THAT. DOES ANYBODY? CORRECT. YES. AT LEAST AT THIS TIME. GO AHEAD ZEAN. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. SO I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS. NOT SO MUCH ON REGULATING, BUT MORE SO INCENTIVIZING PRIVATE PROPERTY. JUST REAL QUICK. I'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND. I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR TO YOU. ALRIGHT THANK YOU. YOUR HAND'S UP SO. IF WE GO TO 2.B, PLEASE. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I GOT THIS LIST FROM THE OTHER ONE. IF YOU SEARCH FOR RECOMMENDED OR TREES. IN THE CITY, THIS IS THE LIST THAT YOU SHOWED ME. BUT THIS IS THE LIST THAT I SHOWED YOU. WATER CONSERVING TREES AND LISTS. WE MIGHT TAKE THAT OFF IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT ANYMORE. WE DON'T WANT TO GUIDE PEOPLE TO IT. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 36 INCH BOX TREES VERSUS 24 INCH BOX TREES. I RECALL MIKE GARCIA TELLING ME THAT 24 INCH BOX TREES GROW TALLER AND LIVE LONGER BECAUSE OF. AND I JUST VERIFIED I THINK IT'S TRUE, BUT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR GUIDELINES FOR TREE PLANTING. IF A 24 INCH BOX PLANTING, 24 INCH BOX TREES ARE BETTER, IS BETTER THAN 36 INCH BECAUSE THEY SURVIVE DUE TO, I GUESS, UPROOTING THEM, IT CAUSES SHOCK. AND THEN WHEN YOU REPLANT THEM, THEY DON'T THEY DON'T DO AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE POINTS ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD AFTER I THINK GEORGETTE GANTNER SPOKE AND MS. MACMORRAN IS SO, SO SHE MS. MACMORRAN CITED THREE TREES THAT SHE SAW THAT WERE DEAD AFTER THEY'D BEEN PLANTED BY THE CITY. IS THAT IS THAT, LIKE, NORMAL ATTRITION? WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME TREES DIE OFF BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T SURVIVE THROUGH PLANTING? AND DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF. I THINK OUR PRACTICE IS THAT WE REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PLANT TREES WITH DOOR HANGER, INVITE THE CONVERSATION. WE PROBABLY YOU GUYS TELL ME. WE GO BACK ONCE, MAKE SURE WE MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT PERSON AND THAT THEY WANT A TREE. [LAUGHTER]. AND HAVE WE DONE ANY SORT OF KIND OF CHECKING BACK ON THE TREES THAT WE HAVE PLANTED SO THAT WE KNOW I REALIZE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT IF WE'RE IF WE DO START PLANNING A BUNCH OF TREES AND THEN THEY'RE NOT SURVIVING OR HAVING A LOW SURVIVAL RATE, EITHER IT'S A SPECIES OR IT'S NOT GETTING WATER OR WHATEVER, WE'RE COMMUNICATING, WHATEVER CONTRACT WE'RE REACHING WITH THE HOMEOWNER ISN'T EXACTLY WORKING OUT IF WE'RE EVEN REACHING ONE. SO WE SHOULD PUT IN PLACE SOME SORT OF CONTROL ANY SYSTEM YOU GOT TO REPORT BACK. [04:10:08] HOW IS IT? HOW IS IT PERFORMING? SO DO WE THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? YEAH. CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE MONITOR NEWLY PLANTED TREES. WE TRY AND PUT EYES ON THEM ROUGHLY EVERY 2 TO 3 MONTHS. OKAY. ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN BIG ON IS UTILIZING THE COOLER WEATHER DURING THE FALL AND SPRING TO PLANT TREES, WHICH DOES HELP WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT AND AGAIN, WITH THE COOLER TEMPERATURES, LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR DROUGHT STRESS. AND SORRY, I COME FROM A DISTRICT OR AT LEAST A STREET WITH NO PARKWAY. SO THIS IS THIS IS FOREIGN TO ME. BUT AS THE MAN FROM HERMOSA CITED WHEN WHEN WE DO PARK IN THE PARKWAYS, ARE THERE SPRINKLERS IN THE PARKWAYS OR SOME HAVE THEM? AND IF SO, HOW THE SPRINKLERS GET THERE? IS IT, LIKE UNDER THE CONCRETE OR? SOME DO AND SOME DON'T. OKAY. AND DEPENDS UPON THE OWNER. AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING TO THEIR PROPERTY LIKE LANDSCAPING. TURN THE MIC ON. THEM WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING OUT IRRIGATION TO THEIR PROPERTY IF THEY'RE DOING ANY KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT TO THEIR PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. IF THEY DO THAT, WE LOOK FOR IRRIGATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE REQUIRE? FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW TWO ON A LOT, YOU'VE GOT TO GET IRRIGATION TO THE PARKWAY> MARK. MARK? IF YOU KNOW. MARK, MARK. IF THEY'RE DEVELOPING. I THINK IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE AND THE PLANS COME THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS. YES WE DO. WE ASK THEM TO PUT IN AN IRRIGATION. THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND SOLUTIONS TO WHATEVER THEY'RE PLANTING. I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IN PRACTICE AND THIS JUST TO ELABORATE ON WHAT WHAT ANDY MENTIONED, WHEN WE WE'VE WE'VE IDENTIFIED ROUGHLY 2500 LOCATIONS IN THE PARKWAY OR PARKS WHERE WE CAN PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES. SO WE WOULD WE CAN CLASSIFY THOSE IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. I CALL IT KIND OF GREEN LIGHT, YELLOW LIGHT, RED LIGHT. AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT ARE THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE WILLING ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS TO GEORGETTE'S POINT WHERE THEY THEY WELCOME A TREE. THEY WANT TO HELP WATER THE TREE. THEY WANT TO HELP THE TREE SUCCEED. TO PERHAPS HOMEOWNERS WHERE WHEN WE KNOCK ON THE DOOR, THE ANSWER IS PLEASE DON'T EVER PLANT A TREE IN OUR PARKWAY, RIGHT? NOW WE DON'T WE DON'T LIKE THAT RESPONSE. WE CERTAINLY LIKE THE FORMER RESPONSE, NOT THE LATTER, BUT WE RESPECT THAT RESPONSE WHEN WE GET IT AND WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DOOR BECAUSE WE'RE STILL AT A POINT WITH THAT 2500 IDENTIFIED TREE WELLS WHERE WE'VE GOT LOW HANGING BRANCHES TO, TO PURSUE. SO WE WANT TO START THERE. WE WANT TO WORK WITH WILLING PARTNERS FIRST. AND AND WHEN WE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE PERHAPS WE'VE EXHAUSTED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE MORE AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS. BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THERE YET. SO FOR THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO PLANT TREES AND PARTNER WITH ADJACENT HOMEOWNER, WE'RE SEEKING PLACES WHERE THEY'VE INSTALLED IRRIGATION UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK AND OR LIKE GEORGETTE. AND IF GEORGETTE WANTS TO HAND WATER THAT PARKWAY SPACE RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF JOE'S. I LOVE THAT. I THINK THAT THAT PARKWAY LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. YEAH. SO. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. ALL RIGHT. AND AND WE TRY TO PARTNER WITH OUR RESIDENTS. SO ON AVERAGE, HOW MANY TREES A YEAR DO YOU THINK YOU PLANT IS AROUND 200? IF I DO THE MATH OR SO? IT'S LIKE 125. 125 OKAY. AND HOW MUCH DO WE THINK THAT COST TO ACQUIRE THOSE AND PLANT THOSE TREES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? I REALIZE I'M ASKING FOR BRR ON THE FLY, BUT WHAT'S THE BUDGET YOU NEED FOR A TREE TRUST FUND? IT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON. TENS OF THOUSANDS. DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE PLANTING. IT'S 134K, BUT THAT INCLUDED SOME TREE TRIMMING. THAT TREE TRIMMING. THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES INVOLVED YEAH. AND SOMETIMES WE MIGHT ASK THE CONTRACTOR INSTALL ON OUR BEHALF. BUT IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE HAD STAND ALONE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS FOR TREE PLANTING IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE'VE DRAWN ON THOSE RESOURCES. RIGHT. BUT WE'VE EXHAUSTED THOSE RESOURCES. RIGHT SO WHAT MY THOUGHT IS, WHAT IF WE WE ESTABLISH A TREE TRUST FUND? WE ESTABLISH A RECURRING CONTRIBUTION TO THE TREE TRUST FUND FROM THE CITY. LET'S SAY IT STARTS OUT AT 5000 A YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE COMING UP ON SLIM, VERY SLIM TIMES, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO THROW AT THIS RIGHT NOW. AND WE INVITE DONATIONS TO IT. WE HAVE. HEY, DONATE TO OUR TREE TRUST FUND. AND THEN WE EVEN DO A CAMPAIGN. HEY, CITY IS GIVING AWAY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET, GIVING AWAY 100 TREES OR 50 TREES TO THE FIRST 50 PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP. AND WHEN THEY SIGN UP, THEY'RE SIGNING A CONTRACT THAT SAYS, HEY, IT'S GOING TO BE PLANTED IN THE PARKWAY OR IN THEIR FRONT SETBACK, RIGHT? WE TARGET PLACES ON THE STREET OR ON THE SIDEWALK. AND FOR THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SIGN THIS CONTRACT AND YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS TREE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND THE CITY WILL COME DROP IT OFF. I MEAN, NOW THAT'S THAT'S A WAY TO IDENTIFY THE GREEN LIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN LIGHT, FOLKS, AND TO MAKE RAISE A LITTLE MORE AWARENESS OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, [04:15:07] RIGHT? WE COULD DO A PROGRAM. I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD. PROBABLY HAVE TO START OFF VERY SMALL. WITH THAT, AND WE WOULD GENERALLY WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLATION. RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. WE DO IT, WE INSTALL IT. SO WHEN YOU SAID DROP OFF MEANING INSTALL. RIGHT INSTALL SORRY INSTALL. YEAH TOTALLY INSTALL. I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. WE COULD DO THAT TO RAISE AWARENESS. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'VE GONE WE'VE KNOCKED ON DOORS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE WILLING PARTNERS. WE JUST NEED THE RESOURCE TO PURCHASE THE TREE AND THEN INSTALL THE TREE. AND TYPICALLY WE'RE WAITING FOR ANNUAL BUDGET CYCLES TO PROVIDE US THAT OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE BLOWN THROUGH THE MATERIALS AND SUPPLY ACCOUNT YET THIS YEAR. I'M SURE WE STILL HAVE RESOURCE TO PLANT LOCATIONS, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO EDUCATE, RAISE AWARENESS AND HOPEFULLY GROW A FUND AND MAYBE GET SPONSORS OR ADDITIONAL DONATIONS TO SUPPLEMENT THE EFFORT. SO SOME OF THE IDEAS WE'VE KICKED AROUND ALONG THIS LINE IS IF WE CAN GET TREE STOCK, WE COULD PART OF OUR COMPOST GIVEAWAY. FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD MAYBE GIVE GIVEAWAY TREES FOR PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SIDE JUST TO GET TREES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NO FEE PERMITS TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS HIRE SOMEBODY WHO'S LICENSED, WHO HAS AN INDEMNITY AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR WORKING THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PLANT A TREE THAT MAYBE WE WOULD PROVIDE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME EASY. EASY WAYS. YOU KNOW, LOW BARRIERS TO ENTRY ON THIS. AND AND THOSE ARE THINGS WE JUST HAVEN'T FULLY FLESHED OUT YET. BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD LOOK INTO THOSE. ONE LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ARE ANY OF THE NURSERIES ON 190TH ARE THEY GROWING TREES THAT ARE DESIRABLE TO PLANT IN THE? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT FROM FROM MY STANDPOINT. THANKS. THERE'S ONE ON MARINE THAT THAT WILL SELL GOOD TREES, BUT THEY DON'T RAISE THEM THERE. OKAY. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, SCE WON'T LET US PLANT TREES UNDER ON THE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. [LAUGHTER]. YEAH. UTILITIES, UTILITIES ARE A FACTOR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IDENTIFIED PARKWAY LOCATIONS. IF THERE'S LOW HANGING WIRES ABOVE THOSE PARKWAYS, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN PLANT. WE'VE ALSO EXPLORED TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE 24 24 INCH BOX EVEN A 15 GALLON TREE COSTS A LOT LESS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A THIRD OF THE PRICE OF A BOX TREE. IF WE CAN BE PATIENT, THOSE TREES TEND TO DO PRETTY WELL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE PAST, COUNCILS HAVE ENCOURAGED US TO PLANT BIG TREES IN THE PARKWAY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE IMMEDIATE RESULTS IN BULK. BUT MAYBE SMALLER TREES GIVE US THE ABILITY TO TACKLE MORE OF THOSE 2500. IF WE ALL CAN WAIT A COUPLE EXTRA YEARS FOR THEM TO TO GET TO THE SIZE. SIZE OF THE TREE WELL, OR THE OR THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH, RIGHT. SO YOU PHYSICALLY COULDN'T PUT A BIGGER ONE IN. EXACTLY RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WITH RESPECT TO FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION, MAYBE AT THIS POINT WE RECEIVE AND FILE GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO EXPLORE THE TREE TRUST FUND, COME BACK WITH A BRR'S TO INITIAL SEEDING, NO PUN INTENDED FOR THAT. AND THEN ALSO INCLUDE AS PART OF THAT TRUST FUND A DONATION MECHANISM THAT WAS RAISED WHERE FOLKS CAN DO THAT ON THE WEBSITE. TIGHTEN THAT UP SO IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE TREE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE POINTED OUT TO A REFRESH ON THOSE TREE DOCUMENTS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO, INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR RESIDENTS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WATER WISE OR NOT, THAT'S GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW FOR VARIOUS REASONS ENVIRONMENT AND EXPENSE. CAN IT BE COVER? YOU KNOW, JUST BUILD ON WHAT YOU HAVE THERE MORE CONSUMER FRIENDLY. AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, CONTINUE WITH ENFORCEMENT THROUGH EVERY LEVEL WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS. SO. SECOND. ALL RIGHT THERE YOU GO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE STILL HAVE HANDS UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. QUICK QUESTION. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THE NEIGHBOR SAID THERE WAS THREE TREES THAT PLANTED AND THEY WERE DEAD WITHIN A YEAR. I KNOW RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE TREES, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PERHAPS WITHIN A YEAR, IS THERE ANY KIND OF WARRANTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHERE THE CITY DOES THAT? AND IF TREES DO DIE BECAUSE THE RESIDENT THEORETICALLY HAS BEEN INFORMED ABOUT THE TREE BEING PLANTED, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING WHERE WE GO TO THE RESIDENT AND SAY, HEY, YOUR TREE DIED, IT'S $250 TO REPLACE THE TREE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IS THERE ANY HISTORY OF THAT OR PLANS TO DO? ONLY IF THERE'S BEEN ACTIVE VANDALISM TO DESTROY OR HARM THE TREE. WE HAVE SOUGHT RESTITUTION WHEN WE'VE IDENTIFIED BAD ACTORS IN THAT RESPECT. [04:20:03] BUT IF THE TREE DIES OF NATURAL CAUSES, WE HAVEN'T PURSUED THAT FROM THE HOMEOWNERS. AND AND I THINK THERE'S SOME WHEN WE SAY THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATING THE RESIDENT TO MAINTAIN THE HEALTH OF THE TREE IN PERPETUITY. IT'S A IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. IT'S A WILLINGNESS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A IT'S A BIT OF A GOOD FAITH AGREEMENT. IT'S NOT A CONTRACTUALLY BINDING TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT. OKAY. SO WITH 2500 VACANT WELLS, EVEN WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, RED, GREEN, YELLOW I'M ASSUMING THERE'S GOT TO BE HUNDREDS, IF NOT A THOUSAND PLOTS OUT THERE THAT ARE HAVE WATER AND ARE READY FOR TREES. SO I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM IDENTIFYING WHERE WE NEED TO PUT THE TREES. WE HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING THE TREES AND FUNDING THEM. AT $250 EACH, $10,000 A YEAR INSTEAD OF THE FIVE IS ONLY 40 TREES SO IT'S NOT. BUT THAT EXCLUDES. THAT'S THE ACQUISITION OF TREE, NOT THE INSTALLATION. RIGHT I'M JUST SAYING THAT. BUT THAT'S IT'S NOT LIKE THE $5,000 A YEAR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI SUGGESTED WOULD BE A LOT OF TREES. THAT'D BE 20 TREES. RIGHT. JUST TO BUY. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS EVERY BIT HELPS. OH, YEAH, I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING. HAVING A FUND HELPS. YEAH, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MORE THAN $5,000 A YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF MAKE IT TEN. BUT THAT'S A BUT I'M JUST SAYING. WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE BRR. SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT IF WE'VE GOT THAT MANY TREES, YOU KNOW, IT'S 100 TREES A YEAR IS WAY MORE MONEY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GENERATE, WHETHER IT'S US SEEDING IT AND THEN GETTING DONATIONS. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING A BIT OF AN INFLUX OF QUIMBY FUNDS IN SOME LOCATIONS. TREE PLANTING IS QUIMBY ELIGIBLE SO. THAT WOULD BE. THAT IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL SOURCE AND THAT COULD BE FLUSHED OUT IN THE BRR. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. AND THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK ON THE PACKAGE FOR THE THREE PEOPLE. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT WORK. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S SEE, CITY MANAGER ITEMS. [O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS] YEAH, JUST A COUPLE THIS EVENING, MAYOR. JUST A REMINDER FROM A LITTLE BIT OF HOLIDAY SCHEDULING. WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. ITEMS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR DISCUSSION INCLUDE GATEWAY PUBLIC ART PROJECT. THAT CONTRACT APPEARS TO BE READY TO GO. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU. UPDATE YOU ON THE PROJECT STATUS. WE'RE ALSO READY WITH THE FIRST REVIEW COUNCIL'S FIRST REVIEW OF THE ARTESIA PLANNING EFFORTS. [LAUGHTER]. SO THAT'LL BE HERE NEXT TUESDAY. ONE OTHER NOTE FOR THAT, AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE ADJOURNMENT. WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADJOURN TO A 4:00 CLOSED SESSION NEXT WEEK. WE DO HAVE THE MENORAH LIGHTING SCHEDULED FOR 5:30 NEXT TUESDAY, SO THAT WOULD GIVE US ROUGHLY 90 MINUTES TO TO CONSIDER CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. IF YOU WANTED MORE THAN THAT, YOU COULD OBVIOUSLY ADVANCE THAT ADJOURNMENT TO 3:30. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT IT ON. DO YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME FOR CLOSED SESSION? I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT, I THINK 4:00 IS PROBABLY SUFFICIENT, GIVEN WHAT WE COVERED TONIGHT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I DON'T SEE MUCH NEED BEYOND THAT. BUT ULTIMATELY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TIME WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO EXPAND THAT OPPORTUNITY. WHEN WE DO ADJOURN HERE AND THEN AGAIN, REMINDER WE'RE DARK. AT THAT POINT UNTIL JANUARY 6TH, AS THE CITY COUNCIL JUST AN EARLY HEADS UP FOR RESIDENTS, THE LAST DAY CITY HALL IS OPEN IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 22ND. CITY HALL THEN GOES DARK UNTIL FRIDAY, JANUARY 2ND. SO IT'S THERE'S A BIT OF AN EXTENDED PERIOD THERE, GIVEN THE WAY THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE FOLLOWING SO IF. YOUR INTENT IS TO GET THE AGENDA OUT BEFORE THE BREAK? OUR INTENTION IS TO GET THE AGENDA TO YOU ON DECEMBER 22ND. THAT'LL BE SO. YOU'LL HAVE A VERY LENGTHY HOLIDAY REVIEW. WITH WITH READING, IF YOU'D LIKE. THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THAT AGENDA INCLUDE GENERAL PLAN PHASE TWO ITEMS WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT, AS WELL AS DISCUSSION AROUND THE PROPOSED ATHENS CONTRACT AMENDMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO HIGHLIGHTS. WE WON'T HAVE A REAL VOLUMINOUS CONSENT CALENDAR. IT'LL BE A KIND OF A DISCUSSION HEAVY NIGHT JUST GIVEN THE TIMING OF THINGS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US HERE. AGAIN, CITY HALL CLOSES, END OF DAY, DECEMBER 22ND FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR. OKAY THANK YOU. REFERRALS TO STAFF. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BRR TO FIND OUT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DEVELOP THAT URBAN FORESTRY MASTER PLAN IN [04:25:01] THE THERE WERE TWO THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN THE REPORT, THE CHEAPER VERSION. JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WOULD BE. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUDGET, THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S PRIORITY OR NOT. YEAH. YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. NOTHING FOR TONIGHT. [Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF] NOTHING THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. I'D LIKE A BRR, PLEASE. FOR THE COST FOR A LIVE STREAMING SYSTEM FOR THE RV PACK. AND THE BRR SHOULD PLEASE COVER THE COST AND LIKELY RECOVERY OF THE COST THROUGH THROUGH PROPOSED PRICING SCHEDULE. AND BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE SO FAR, THE FREQUENCY OF USE, HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE REQUESTED IT? I THINK JACK MEYER WILL BE PREPARED FOR THAT BRR. PLEASE. THAT'S IT? YEP THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT AND I HAVE NONE. OKAY. TONIGHT WE ARE ADJOURNING IN MEMORY OF RICK HANKUS, WHO IS THE OWNER OF OCEAN DINER AND JAVA MAN WHICH WERE FREQUENTED BY RESIDENTS FROM REDONDO AS WELL AS STAFF. SO I'D ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN IN HIS MEMORY. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR. AYE. OKAY. WE'RE ADJOURNED. TWO 4:00 P.M. AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID TO CLOSED SESSION ON DECEMBER 16TH AND REGULAR 6:00 P.M. TIME FOR OPEN SESSION ON THE 16TH. AND THAT'LL BE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.