[00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL. TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION FOR MONDAY, [A. CALL TO ORDER] FEBRUARY 9TH, 2016. MAY WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL? 26. WHAT IS IT? WHAT YEAR IS IT? 2026. OH, YEAH. YOU GOT ME ALL FLUSTERED WITH THESE. STILL WITH THE WATER. THINKING ABOUT THE GOGGLES. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T SEE ON ZOOM, THERE'S A SERIOUS GOGGLES SITUATION HAPPENING HERE. OKAY, 2026. YEAH. COMMISSIONER WARWICK? YEAH. COMMISSIONER FALK? HERE. COMMISSIONER COLLER? HERE. COMMISSIONER CHRZAN? HERE. COMMISSIONER CARLSON? HERE. AND CHAIR ABELMAN? YES. FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER BAUER IS ABSENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS. EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE COMMISSIONER FALK LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. EXCELLENT. GREAT. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? THERE ARE NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS TONIGHT. CRUISING ALONG. CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF AFFIDAVIT POSTING FOR THE HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING IN FEBRUARY 19TH, [F. CONSENT CALENDAR] FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026. AND FEBRUARY, SORRY, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING MINUTES FROM JANUARY 12TH, 2026. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? EXCELLENT. THERE'S NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. HERE WE GO. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. WRITTEN REQUESTS, IF ANY, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION. ARE THERE ANY ECOMMENTS? THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS OR COMMENTS ON ZOOM. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC? NO? GOGGLE WEARING FRIENDS NOW. OKAY. NO. ALL RIGHT. NO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. YEAH. NO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. NO ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS. SECTION L, ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION. [L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY REPORTS. WE DO? YEAH. QUARTERLY, WE INVITE MEMBERS OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME BY AND JUST PRESENT SOME KEY STATS AND SOME TRENDS THAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT THERE, AND GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY SEE FIT. WE'LL START WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE CURT MAHONEY HERE, AND HE'LL GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT. IS THIS WORKING? YEAH, WE WE CAN HEAR YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE FOR QUARTER THREE AND QUARTER FOUR FOR 2025, AND THEN TOTAL STATS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR 2025. WE'LL GO OVER THE CALLS. SOME KEY POINTS OR SOME KEY STATISTICS THAT STOOD OUT SPECIFICALLY NUMBER WISE REGARDS TO THESE STATS. AND THEN I'VE GOT A FEW PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I SUPPLIED SOME GOING ONS IN THE HARBOR. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THEM, BUT FOR THE GREATER PUBLIC AT LARGE, IF THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF THEM, THEN WE'LL PRESENT THOSE AS WELL, SO. SO FOR Q3, WE HAD 232 CALLS TOTAL IN THE HARBOR WITH THE HARBOR PATROL 86 OF THOSE WERE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, 146 WERE NON-EMERGENCY RESPONSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPH, THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE HAD WERE MEDICAL AIDS. THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL FOR US. WHETHER THAT'S A MEDICAL EMERGENCY ON A BOAT, MEDICAL EMERGENCY ON A KAYAK. AND THE HARBOR PATROL DOES HAVE A PURVIEW OVER HARBOR DRIVE. SO THE HOTELS ON THERE, RIGHT. THEY'LL BE FIRST DUE FOR A MEDICAL PROBLEM AT THE SHADE HOTEL OR DOWN AT THE PIER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL. SO ANYTIME A PARAMEDIC IS NEEDED THEY'RE DISPATCHED FOR THOSE THAT FIRST DUE IN. SO NOT JUST THE HARBOR PROPER, BUT THE BUSINESSES ALONG HARBOR BOULEVARD AS WELL. WE HAD QUITE A FEW MAYDAYS/VESSELS IN DISTRESS CALLS AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAD QUITE A FEW PUBLIC ASSISTS AND SEA LIFE RESCUES. EVEN THOUGH THE DOMOIC ACID ISSUE HAD TECHNICALLY RESOLVED BY MID LATE SUMMER, WE WERE STILL GETTING QUITE A FEW DEAD SEA [00:05:08] LIONS REPORTS OF THOSE AND HAVING TO DISPOSE OF THOSE, AND IN SOME CASES WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS. AS FAR AS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, IT'S REALLY ANY KIND OF CALL THAT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE CATEGORIES THAT YOU SEE. SO FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, I WOULD QUALIFY THOSE OR CALL THEM JUST CAT AND TREES TYPE CALLS. SO WHETHER, HEY, I DROPPED MY KEYS IN THE HARBOR, CAN YOU HELP OR IN THE WATER, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? I'VE GOT SOMETHING WRAPPED AROUND MY PROP, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? I'VE NEVER MOORED A BOAT BEFORE. I'M A NEW MARINER, A NEW SAILOR. HEY, CAN YOU COME OUT TO THE MOORING FIELD AND ASSIST ME WITH THAT? SO BUT THAT MADE UP THE TOP CALLS WERE MEDICAL EMERGENCY AIDS AND MAYDAYS AND VESSELS IN DISTRESS. A LOT OF THOSE CALLS ARE TYPICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE BRICK WALL AS WELL, SO WE'LL BE WORKING IN CONCERT IN SOME, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF VESSEL AND THE SEVERITY OF THE DISTRESS. IN CONCERT WITH THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AND OR THE L.A. COUNTY LIFEGUARDS AS WELL, SO. AS FAR AS Q3, OR, I'M SORRY, Q4, 153 CALLS IN TOTAL. AGAIN, 55 WERE EMERGENCY RESPONSE 98 NON-EMERGENCY. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE MEDICAL AIDS TOPPED THE GRAPH. THAT IS, NOT TO A LARGE EXTENT, BUT A BIG OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF WHAT THEY DO. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEED MEDICS DOWN THERE. RIGHT. WE GET ALL MANNERS OF MEDICAL AIDS, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, FISHHOOKS AND HANDS. SO FROM CARDIAC ARREST TO STROKES TO YOU NAME IT. IN FACT, I WAS ON DUTY TWO SATURDAYS AGO, WORKING AS THE FRONT MEDIC ON SQUAD ONE. WE HAD A FULL ARREST DOWN IN THE PIER AREA THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH. SO BUT YEAH. SO THOSE GOING ALL THE TIME. THE LEGAL MOORINGS. THAT'S A FOCUS FOR US. IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE. WE'RE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MOORING FIELD AND STAY OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL TIME LIMIT THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BEYOND THE SEVEN DAYS, OR THEY COME BACK BEFORE THE 30 DAYS IS UP SINCE THEY WERE LAST THERE. SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST COME IN AND MORE, AND WHETHER THEY'RE NAIVE TO IT OR THEY, KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM OR TRY TO PLAY THE GAME. OH, I WASN'T SURE, I DIDN'T KNOW. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING WITH CRAIG STANTON USING DOCKWA, MAKING SURE THEY'RE PAYING, LIKE, YOU KNOW RECORDING DATES THAT THEY ARRIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT SANS INCLEMENT WEATHER OR SOME, YOU KNOW, MAJOR MECHANICAL FAILURE WITH THEIR BOAT, THAT THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY. THEY'RE WELCOME. THIS MORE HERE. THEY'RE WELCOME TO STAY AND BE IN THE CITY. BUT WE HAVE THOSE RULES AND WE'RE OUT THERE MAKING SURE WE GET BOATS ONCE THEY'VE EXCEEDED THEIR TIME LIMIT THAT THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY, SO. BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT REFLECTS THERE AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THE TITLE 12 CALLS, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE MAKE UP. AND THE REASON WE HAD QUITE A FEW OF THOSE IN THE LATER IN THE SUMMER WAS, AND INTO THE WINTER TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RAINS AND LIKE DECEMBER, GET OIL SHEENS IN THE WATER. WE GET A LOT OF REPORTS FOR OIL SHEENS. THAT'S POTENTIAL POLLUTION. SO THEY'LL GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE. THOSE CAN BE DIFFICULT TO ACTUALLY ISOLATE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM IN SOME CASES, BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES THOSE UP. AND THEN WITH LOBSTER SEASON AS WELL, WE'LL GET A LOT OF DIVERS THAT ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE BREAKWALL IN THE EVENINGS WE'LL SEE THEIR LIGHTS, BUT THERE'S NO IDENTIFYING MARKER THAT THEY'RE THERE. THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN AN AREA THEY SHOULDN'T BE. SO WE'LL BE OUT THERE ENFORCING AND HELPING FISHING GAME WITH ENFORCEMENT OF THAT STUFF, SO. BUT THAT'S QUARTER 4 IN A NUTSHELL. AS FAR AS THE ENTIRE YEAR IS CONCERNED, 108, 855 CALLS TOTAL. 301 EMERGENCY. 554 NON-EMERGENCY. AGAIN, MEDICAL AID TOPS THE LIST. MAYDAYS/VESSELS IN DISTRESS CLOSELY BEHIND THAT WITH PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND TITLE 12 TYPE CALLS. SO THAT IS MY REPORT AS FAR AS STATS. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO STATS OR ANYTHING SURROUNDING THAT? IS THERE ANY CROSSOVER? SAY THAT AGAIN. IS THERE A CROSSOVER BECAUSE ONE PERSON BEING MEDICAL AID ALSO BE LINKED TO PUBLIC ASSIST ALSO BE LINKED TO ROCK RESCUE. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL SEPARATE CATEGORIES. YEAH, THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE. I HAD ONE QUESTION. YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT MOORING WITHIN 30 DAYS. WHAT IS THAT RULE? SO ONCE YOU MOOR, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO STAY FOR SEVEN DAYS, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR TRANSIENT, UNLESS I GIVE A SPECIAL EXTENSION ON THAT. THEN ONCE YOU LEAVE, YOU CAN'T RETURN FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS, AND THEN YOU CAN MOOR FOR ANOTHER WEEK. OKAY. SO LET'S SAY. YOU CAN COME FOR 2 WEEKENDS. LET'S SAY. YEAH. [00:10:03] SO LET'S SAY I'M MOOR TODAY, SO IT'S MONDAY. AND THEN YOU'RE YOU NEED TO LEAVE ON SUNDAY. AND THEN I RETURN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW TO MOORE FOR ANOTHER WEEK. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WAIT IN ANOTHER 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU MOOR FOR ANOTHER WEEK. OKAY, BUT NOTHING PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM COMING LIKE SEVERAL WEEKENDS AND JUST STAYING FOR A WEEKEND? LIKE. NOT AT ALL. AND WE'LL, WELL, THAT'S PART OF THE COMMUNICATION PIECE, RIGHT? LIKE WE GET PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING UP FROM NEWPORT OR DOWN FROM MARINA DEL REY, A LOT OF LOCALS. YEAH, THAT'S HEY, WE'RE HERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. YEAH, 100%. BUT WE'LL, WE'VE IDENTIFIED BOATS OR KNOWN ABUSERS, IF YOU WILL, OR THE SYSTEM AS WELL, SO. THANKS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE STAT ITSELF, THAT'S WHAT THAT REFLECTS. WE'VE HAD AN INTERACTION WITH A BOATER THAT'S TECHNICALLY ILLEGALLY MOORED BECAUSE THEY VIOLATED. USUALLY THE ISSUE OR VIOLATION IS THEY'VE OVERSTAYED THEIR WELCOME, SO TO SPEAK. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH OKAY. YEAH SURE. SO THANKS FOR COMING. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE HARBOR ALL THE TIME, AND I LOOK AT THESE STATS AND IT REALLY DOESN'T TELL THE STORY OF WHAT I SEE YOU GUYS DOING EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HURT IN THE ROCKS AND YOU HAD A SKATEBOARD ON FIRE. AND LAST NIGHT, A BOAT SANK. AND, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A TV SHOW. YEAH. AND YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THAT IN THESE NUMBERS, SO. I APPRECIATE THE I APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND RECOGNITION. AND EVEN MORE SO THE GUYS APPRECIATE IT. I'M JUST THERE SUPPORTING THEM. RIGHT. THEY'RE THE ONES LITERALLY THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, THE FEET IN THE WATER. THOSE RESCUES THIS WEEKEND. THEY'RE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS REPORT. THANKS FOR BRINGING THEM UP. YEAH. THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE ROCK RESCUES. I WAS ACTUALLY IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA THIS WEEKEND. MY DAUGHTER WAS IN A NATIONAL CHEER COMPETITION, SO. YEAH. SO I JUST GOT BACK THIS MORNING, BUT I'M ON THE COMMAND THREAD, AND SO, YEAH, IT WAS, ONE CAME IN AT 12:45 A.M. TO, ON THE BREAK WALL THAT WERE IN THE WATER, BUT 6-3 GUYS GOT OUT. THEY RESCUED BOTH OF THEM. BELIEVE ONE WENT TO HARBOR GENERAL. THE OTHER ONE, WELL, THEY BOTH WENT TO HARBOR GENERAL, BUT I THINK ONE ACTUALLY QUALIFIED AS A TRAUMA CRITERIA PATIENT. AND THEN LATER THAT MORNING THERE WERE SIX THAT WERE KNOCKED OFF THE BREAK WALL AGAIN, BOTH 6-3. AND THAT TIME IT TURNED INTO AN MCI. RIGHT. FIVE OR MORE PATIENTS TECHNICALLY IN OUR WORLD IS CONSIDERED A MULTI-CASUALTY INCIDENT, ALTHOUGH WE CAN ACTIVATE THAT SYSTEM IF THERE'S TWO PATIENTS IF IT'S DEEMED NECESSARY. BUT TYPICALLY THE GUIDELINE IS FIVE OR MORE YOU CALL MAC, AND IF ANY OF THIS IS SOUNDS LIKE GREEK TO YOU, I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS AS WELL FROM MY FORMER FIRESIDE. BUT BASICALLY IT'S A SYSTEM THAT WE CALL AND WE INITIATE THROUGH L.A. COUNTY, AND THEY TELL US WHAT BEDS ARE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY IF WE'VE GOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF PATIENTS, BECAUSE IF WE JUST SHOW UP AT LITTLE COMPANY, LET'S SAY SIX PATIENTS, WE'LL REALLY NOT DESIGNED TO TAKE SIX PATIENTS ALL AT ONCE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, FOR EXAMPLE, HARBOR GENERAL BEING A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA, THEY CAN ACCEPT THOSE. BUT LET'S SAY THEY'RE HAVING A ROUGH DAY. MAC CAN LET US KNOW. OKAY. YOU CAN TAKE THIS PATIENT TO GARDENA MEMORIAL. YOU CAN TAKE THESE PATIENTS TO TORRANCE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO, IT INVOLVED MORE THAN JUST A SIMPLE ROCK RESCUE AND PEOPLE IN THE WATER AS WELL. YEAH, BUT ALL IN BOTH INSTANCES, EVERYONE THAT WAS IN THE WATER WAS RESCUED AND TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL, SO. SERIOUS INJURIES THOUGH? SOME OF THEM. YEAH. SO WHEN ANYTIME I HEAR SOMEONE'S GOING TO HARBOR GENERAL HOSPITAL THAT MEETS TRAUMA CRITERIA. AGAIN, I WASN'T HERE AND I DIDN'T GET THE FULL DETAILS YET, BUT IN MY MIND I'M THINKING IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING THROWN AGAINST ROCKS, PROBABLY BLUNT HEAD, BLUNT CHEST TRAUMA AND EXTREMITY TRAUMA AS WELL. SO YEAH, THOSE PATIENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH BLUNT CHEST AND BLUNT HEAD THE INTERNAL INJURIES. THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REASONS HARBOR GENERAL EXISTS IN THEIR E.R., THEY HAVE SURGEONS THAT ARE THERE READY TO GO. SO WE GET THEM IN AND GET THEM STABILIZED THE BEST OUR ABILITY. WE TRANSFER THEM TO THE NURSING AND PHYSICIAN STAFF THERE, AND THEY CAN GET THEM INTO THE OPERATING ROOM PRETTY QUICK. SO, YEAH. THANKS. YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION. LAST SUMMER, WE KIND OF CLARIFIED THAT THERE WAS A FEE STRUCTURE ON TOP OF SOME OF THIS. YEAH. HAS THAT BEEN APPLIED, HAS IT BEEN WORKING OUT ANY COMMENT ON THE FEE STRUCTURE WITH THESE STATS? SURE., ABSOLUTELY. SO WE HAVE NOTICED I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT IT TO THE BOAT TOW, I DON'T HAVE 24 STATS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IF I HAD TO GUESS, THAT CATEGORY WAS PROBABLY A LOT HIGHER. IT'S A LOT LESS NOW. I THINK A LOT OF FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND IN MY OPINION, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BOATING COMMUNITY NOW UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR CERTAIN SERVICES. ONE OF THOSE BEING BOAT TOURS. THAT WAS A PRETTY COMMON CALL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE HARBOR PATROL. THAT IS LESS SO NOW BECAUSE THOSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES. I'VE SEEN TOWBOAT USA IN OUR HARBOR MORE OFTEN THAN I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. [00:15:07] BUT I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATE WAYS TO GET THEIR BOAT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GET WITHOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THE HARBOR PATROL. WE WILL TOW. WE DON'T MIND TOWING. IF YOU'RE CALLING A MAYDAY ON 16 LIKE WE'RE TOWING YOU IN. RIGHT. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BILL PIECE AFTERWARDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT, THAT ISSUE. YEAH. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY JUST NEED TO GET THEIR BOAT FROM A TO B AND HISTORICALLY THE HARBOR PATROL HAS PROVIDED THAT SERVICE, AND WE'LL GLADLY DO IT. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR FREE ANYMORE, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR THAT. SO USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S AN ISSUE. THERE'S A CALL, WHETHER IT'S VIA CELL PHONE OR IN SOME CASES CHANNEL 16, WHICH WE DON'T ADVISE, BUT IT'S JUST UTILIZED. HAKE AND HARBOR PATROL, CAN YOU COME UP ON 16, GO TO ANOTHER CHANNEL AND THEN THERE'S A CONVERSATION, HEY, CAN YOU TELL MY BOAT OR WHATEVER IT IS? RIGHT. AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND MAKE CONTACT, OR THE GUYS WILL GO OUT AND MAKE CONTACT AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION. THESE ARE VERY BENIGN NON-EMERGENT TYPE TOWS, RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S TIME AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. WELL, HOW DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO HERE? DO YOU WANT US TO DO IT? WE'LL DO IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO COST YOU THREE 356. OR DO YOU WANT TO CALL TOWBOAT USA OR DO YOU WANT TO DIAL A FRIEND? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE BOATING COMMUNITY TO LOOK FOR OTHER AVENUES TO WHICH TO HAVE THAT SERVICE DONE. SO THAT WAS REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE WE'RE STILL PROVIDING. IN FACT, WE JUST DID A DEWATERING A COUPLE DAYS AGO, ACTUALLY YESTERDAY. AND SO WE CHARGED FOR THAT. THE GUYS GOT OFF THE BOAT, PUT DEWATERING PUMPS, THE BOAT WAS SINKING, GOT IT UPRIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS PERSONNEL SERVICES. SO BUT OVERALL I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME FROM RECOVERY USA, WHICH IS THE THIRD PARTY THE DEPARTMENT USED TO BILL OUR CUSTOMERS AND PEOPLE IN THE BOATING COMMUNITY. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN A HUGE NUMBER BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, LIKE, YOU CAN USE US AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S, THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S JUST HAPPENING. THAT'S A GIVEN, RIGHT? BUT THESE NON-EMERGENT, THEY'RE GIVING IT A SECOND THOUGHT. MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE I CAN GO DOWN, OR MAYBE I CAN JUST HANDLE THIS PROBLEM ON MY OWN. SO WE'RE THREADING A DELICATE NEEDLE BETWEEN CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WANTING TO ALWAYS PROVIDE AND DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT AS TIME GOES ON, AND ESPECIALLY ONCE THE BOAT RAMP GOES IN, LIKE THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO BE TAPPED AND SO THEY NEED TO BE THERE, READY, RIGHT. BECAUSE IF I'M PUMPING A BOAT OR I'M TOWING A BOAT, I'M NOT AVAILABLE TO GO ON THE CARDIAC ARREST DOWN AT THE SHADE HOTEL OR ON A BOAT, RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE BALANCE WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE, SO. YEAH, THANKS. NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STATISTICS. THANKS. YEAH. JUST SOME QUICK PICTURES. AGAIN WE'VE GOT A REALLY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH MAMMAL MARINE CARE. THIS POOR FELLOW WAS ACTUALLY FOUND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN MALIBU. HE WAS SHOT IN THE FACE. MARINE MAMMAL RESCUE WAS CALLED OUT. PERFORMED EMERGENCY SURGERY ON THE SEA LION. DID SOME RECONSTRUCTION ON THE FACE. HAD THE SEA LION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. SEA LION FULLY RECOVERED. SO WE, THEY ASKED US TO GET THE SEA LION ON THE BOAT. AND ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR SYSTEM SOMETIMES FOR RELEASING ISN'T JUST FROM THE BEACH, THEY WANT TO GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN OCEAN. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, WE WERE ALL ABOUT IT. SO WE GOT THEM ALL ON THE BOAT THAT DAY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY RELEASED THE SEA LION. AND SHE'S DOING WELL, I HOPE. I THINK SO. BUT WE CONTINUE THAT REALLY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH MARINE MAMMAL CARE, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY ON OUR BOAT EVERY OTHER WEEK ASSISTING THEM WITH WHETHER IT'S SEA LION OUT ON THE BARGE OR GULLS OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS. SO WE VALUE THAT RELATIONSHIP. WE CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP EVERY CHANCE WE CAN. SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO TELL THEM, NO, WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON. THEY'RE NOT OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY, BUT THEY ARE A PRIORITY, SO. BUT YOU WANT TO SEE THAT OUT OF INTEREST, KIND OF A COOL STORY ABOUT SURVIVAL. IT WASN'T A TYPICAL SEA LION INJURY SICKNESS. AND ALSO, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF IT. IF YOU WEREN'T, THE SEA BASS PEN WENT IN. SO I TOOK SOME PHOTOGRAPHS DOWN THERE THAT DAY THAT THEY WERE PUTTING IT IN. SO PRETTY COOL ENGINEERING PROJECT. SO CRAIG STANTON AND ALL THE CREWS DOWN THERE THAT HELPED PREPARE THE MOORING FIELDS, AND THEY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB, SO. THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY WAS, I WANT TO SAY, ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. IT WAS VERY RECENT. SO MAYOR WAS DOWN THERE, AND SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HELPING WITH THE FEEDING OF THOSE FISH AND YEAH. [00:20:06] SO THAT'S IN THERE AND THAT'S UP AND RUNNING AS WELL. SO JUST THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT. SO, YEAH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CURT? THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME ANYTIME. YEP. HANG ON. HEY, DIDN'T WE HAVE A BOAT FIRE, TOO? WE DID INDEED. YEAH. YEAH, WE DID INDEED. SO THIS WAS IN DECEMBER. WE HAD A BOAT THAT CAUGHT FIRE IN DOCK F OVER IN KING HARBOR MARINA. SO INITIAL CALL ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE ON DUTY HARBOR PATROL GUYS. THEY SAW SMOKE AND FIRE. THEY WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS. THEY KNEW IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN KING HARBOR MARINA, BUT THEY CALLED DISPATCH AND SAID, HEY, WE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A FIRE START A FIRST ALARM. SO AS PART OF OUR OPERATION, WHEN L.A. COUNTY GUARDS ARE DOWNSTAIRS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN HOUSE AT THIS TIME THEY WERE. THEY FACE TO FACE. HEY, STARTED HEADING TOWARDS KING HARBOR. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BOAT FIRE SOMEWHERE. WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE IT'S AT. DISPATCH INITIATED THE FIRST ALARM FROM THE LAND BASED UNITS. L.A. COUNTY GUARDS GOT ON SCENE FIRST, ACTUALLY, AND STARTED APPLYING WATER ON THE FIRE. OUR CURRENT SETUP, WE HAVE A PORTABLE PUMP ON OUR CRYSTAL LINER. THAT PUMP DOESN'T REALLY WORK ON THE DAILY. HAVING IT IN THE BACK OF THE BOAT, THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY SECURE IT. AND THERE'S HOSE AND ALL THAT. SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE PUMP FROM THE LANDSIDE, GET IT ON THE BOAT, GET THE HOSES ON THE BOAT. SO THERE IS A BIT OF A DELAY FOR THEM TO GET THERE. BUT THE FIRST TWO ENGINE COMPANY GOT THERE IN SIX MINUTES. THEY REPORTED THAT THE FIRE WAS OVER IN KING HARBOR MARINA. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION. I LISTENED TO THE TAPE. I WASN'T PART OF THE DEBRIEF. I WAS ACTUALLY IN SCOTTSDALE AT THE TIME OF THE SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST SUMMIT. IT'S A BIANNUAL, A WEEK LONG EVENT WHERE YOU GET RESEARCHERS, SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS, FIRST RESPONDERS TALKING EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING ABOUT CARDIAC ARREST. THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SO I WAS THERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED. I JUST GOTTEN BACK FROM SCOTTSDALE, BUT I LISTENED TO THE TAPE. I LOOKED AT THE REPORT THE FIRST TWO ENGINE COMPANY REPORTED, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE THERE. WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE TAPE SOME, THERE WAS A REPORTING PARTY THAT SAID IT WAS A DOCK S, SO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, RIGHT? SO THE GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR MAPS AND THEY'RE WELL DOCKS S OFF MARINA WAY. SO THE FIRST TWO ENGINE COMPANY CAME TO MARINA WAY. AND THAT CAPTAIN I SPOKE WITH HIM. HE'S LIKE NO THE FIRE'S OVER HERE. IT'S NOT OVER THERE. SO THEY CONFIRMED IT. THEY WANTED TO GET SOME SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FIRST AROUND THAT, AND THEN THEY REROUTED THE OTHER UNITS DOWN YACHT CLUB WAY, AND THEN DID TWO AND A HALF HOSE PACK EVOLUTION WITH THAT. SO I LOOKED AT THE ARSON INVESTIGATION REPORT. THIS WAS ACCIDENTAL. THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS WORKING ON HIS BOAT. HE WORKS ON HIS BOAT ALL THE TIME. SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS INSTALLING SOME NEW FUEL LINES. A SEASONED MECHANIC, THE KNOWLEDGEABLE MECHANIC. HAD CLOSED HIS HATCH, THOUGH A FRIEND OR SOMEONE HAD COME BY TO SPEAK WITH HIM MOMENTARILY ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THE BEARS OR THE WEATHER OR WHATEVER, RIGHT. THE FUMES ACCUMULATED IN THAT AREA ENOUGH. AND THERE WAS AN IGNITION SOURCE, AND IT BLEW. SO SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE SOME GREAT EFFORTS BY PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE DOCK ATTEMPTING TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE. THERE ARE TWO A 10-B:C DRY-CHEMICAL EXTINGUISHERS DOWN WHERE ALL THE HOSES ARE. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH THE TWO A 10-B:C, BECAUSE IT PUTS OUT THREE TYPES OF FIRES TYPE A, TYPE B, TYPE C, WHICH ARE ORDINARY COMBUSTIBLES, FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS, AND ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. WE CAN GET IT CAN GET KIND OF CATTYWAMPUS IF THERE'S FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS INVOLVED. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PUTTING WATER ON THAT THAT CAN ACTUALLY SPREAD THINGS AND MAKE THINGS WORSE, POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS. SO BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY MADE SOME EFFORTS ACTUALLY WITH SOME GARDEN HOSES. BUT I WOULD JUST ADVISE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, IN THE MOMENT. I WOULD HOPE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO ACT. BUT JUST BE CAREFUL. BECAUSE FIRE HAS A WAY OF GETTING AWAY FROM YOU REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY. AND QUITE FRANKLY, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T AT THE FIRE, BUT WHEN I HEAR OF A LARGER FIRE GARDEN, HOSES PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO DO MUCH. WE'RE REALLY, IT'S A PHYSICS PROBLEM, RIGHT? LIKE, THERE'S SO MANY BTUS. AND IN MY WORLD THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS, BUT TYPICALLY BIG FIRE, BIG WATER. SO THE BIGGER THE FIRE, THE BIGGER THE HOSE. YOU SEE THESE LARGE COMMERCIAL FIRES, ESPECIALLY LAFD, THEY HAVE THESE HUGE LADDER PIPES AND FIREFIGHTERS SITTING ON 2.5IN, [00:25:01] YOU KNOW, HOSES PUTTING OUT 320 GALLONS A MINUTE ON THOSE, 500 PLUS GALLONS A MINUTE ON THE MASTER STREAMS AND THEY'RE ON THESE THINGS FOR LIKE A COUPLE HOURS, RIGHT. TRYING TO PUT THE FIRE OUT, SO. THE ONE THING ABOUT FIRE USUALLY WILL BE YOUR GUIDE. USUALLY IT GETS HOT ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN'T GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO GET HURT, BUT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. AND AND IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY IN MY WORLD, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I'VE DONE FOR 25 YEARS. BUT WHEN I HEAR OF, LIKE, EXPLOSION, THE FIRST THING IN MY MIND IS LIKE, WELL, WHY IS THAT? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THIS ISN'T A TYPICAL FIRE. IS THERE A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL INVOLVED? IS THERE SOME SORT OF CANISTER? IT'S GOING TO BE A SECONDARY EXPLOSION. SO I WOULD JUST ADVISE YOU ALL THE GENERAL PUBLIC, LIKE JUST BE CAREFUL. LIKE WE WANT PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, ACT, BUT YOU NEED TO BE SAFE AND YOU NEED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT, DO I REALLY WANT TO COMMIT MYSELF TO THIS? BECAUSE I COULD GET HURT REALLY QUICKLY AND I COULD GET HURT REALLY BADLY. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WORD TO THE WISE. SO AGAIN, IN MY WORLD, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO THINK IN THOSE TERMS BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT SO OFTEN. BUT I REMEMBER MY FIRST FIRE, I WAS A NERVOUS WRECK, YOU KNOW, AND I PROBABLY DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS I SHOULD HAVE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. BUT EVEN AS AN EXPERIENCED FIREFIGHTER, YOU CAN GET INTO TROUBLE. SO KIND OF BEAT THAT HORSE UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT JUST A WORD TO THE WISE. SO, YEAH. THANKS. SO WHERE, I'M GOING WITH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRE IS EVERY SUMMER WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD PUT IN THE BUDGET. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY TONIGHT, BUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE US TO PUT IN THE BUDGET THAT HELPS PREVENT THIS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE, LIKE, THE ONLY FIRE PUMP OUT THERE IS ON THE BAYWATCH BOAT, THE ONLY PERMANENTLY STATIONED FIRE PUMP. AND THE BAYWATCH BOAT ISN'T REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE HARBOR. HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT WATCHING THE BAY. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE FIRE PUMPS CAN PUT OUT A LOT OF WATER. GPM, YEAH. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE ON THE BOATS THAT ARE OUT THERE PATROLLING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD POTENTIALLY ASK FOR, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO BUY YOU TOYS YOU DON'T WANT, SO. LISTEN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAUGHT CHIEF BUTLER, HE WAS BEFORE CONGRESS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THEY WERE GOING OVER THE PALISADES FIRE AND FEMA AND ONE OF THE SENATORS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS, OR CONGRESSMAN SAID, WELL, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FUNDS AND THEY'RE BASICALLY LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL TAKE YOU. WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE US. YEAH. BUT AND THERE WAS SOME DEBATE AMONGST THE, THE CONGRESSMEN THEMSELVES AROUND FUNDING FEMA AND ALL THAT, AND SO THERE WAS THAT PIECE OF IT. BUT I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY, I CAN TALK WITH MY BOSS AND DEPUTY CHIEF MAY AS WELL AS CHIEF BUTLER. HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ...? I WILL SAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW WE ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLING A FIRE PUMP ON THE CRYSTAL LINER NOW. IN FACT, IT JUST WENT TO THE BOATYARD TODAY TO HAVE THAT INSTALLED AGAIN, SO. BECAUSE WE REALIZED THAT THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE. BUT WE ARE IN A WEIRD SPACE WHERE THE BOSTON WHALERS, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, BEEN DECOMMISSIONED. WE'VE GOT THE SEAWAY, WE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES THAT WE NOW WORKED OUT, BUT IT WAS STILL GETTING WORKED ON. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CRYSTAL LINER, THE BOAT YOU NORMALLY SEE OUT THERE WITH THIS PORTABLE PUMP. SO, WE'RE WAITING ON THE SEAWAY TO GET FINALIZED. THE CRYSTAL LINER. WE DIDN'T WANT TO. WE COULDN'T HAVE NO BOATS, RIGHT? SO WE HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING. SO THE DECISION WAS MADE. HEY, LET'S AT LEAST GET A PORTABLE PUMP ON THE CRYSTAL LINER, AND THEN WE'LL REVISIT ONCE THE SEAWAY SQUARED AWAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT GETTING A PUMP. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHETHER IT'S FUTURE BOATS OR EVEN SOMETHING WITH THE SEAWAY, RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S IN RESERVE STATUS AND THE LIFEGUARD BOAT HAS A PUMP ON IT. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING UP AND TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING ON THE SEAWAY AS WELL, SO. BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE CRYSTAL LINER WILL HAVE AN ENGINE PROBLEM OR SOME KIND OF ISSUE THAT'S IN FOR REPAIR, AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A BOAT WITH ANOTHER PUMP TO YOUR POINT, SO. YEAH, AND FOR NEW MEMBERS. THE WAY THIS TYPICALLY WORKS IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY BUDGET, SET THE CITY BUDGETS TIGHT AND THE CITY COMES UP WITH, YOU KNOW, 100 GRAND LAST YEAR, WAS IT? YEAH. IT'S NOT A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY. RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S A LONG WISH LIST FROM EVERY PART OF THE CITY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO SPEND THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE TAKING THIS AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, A PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE OR A SCHOOL, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS ARE WORTH ASKING FOR, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN USE THEM IF WE TALK ABOUT THIS. HEY, MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU ASK. YEAH, WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW. WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO ASK FOR THE RIGHT THING. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND IT AND SEE WHERE IT LIES IN PRIORITIES. AND, BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT THAT THERE'S THE MAGIC WAND, SORT OF LIKE IF I WERE KING FOR A DAY THING. BUT THEN THERE ARE THE REAL THE BUDGETARY REALITIES AND THE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY. [00:30:01] AND SO HOW DO WE FIND, HOW DO WE FIND MONEY POTENTIALLY IN THE BUDGET TO ACCOMPLISH AND MITIGATE THESE ISSUES, BUT STILL HONORING THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY AS WELL? SO, YEAH. OKAY, SO NOT TO PLAY GOTCHA. BUT ANY OTHER BOAT FIRES? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO, YEAH. OKAY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE IN THE SOUTH BASIN ELECTRICAL. OKAY. WHEN WAS THAT? A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS IN ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL BOATS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF PILED UP ON AN EXTENSION CORD. YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. SO I'M ON, I'M RUNNING ON FUMES. MY DAY STARTED AT LA TIME, 2:45 IN THE MORNING. YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY FIRST IN OFFICER ON THAT. SO, YEAH, IT WAS A 40 FOOT, 42 FOOT COMMERCIAL FISHING BOAT IN BASIN THREE. AND SO WE HAD REPORTS OF LIGHT SMOKE SHOWING. I WAS ACTUALLY HEADED TO STATION ONE TO TALK TO MY BOSS AT THE TIME. SO I JUMPED THAT CALL AND GIVE THE FIRST TWO REPORTS. SO IT WAS ABOUT FOUR SLIPS SOUTH OF NAJA'S. YEAH. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ELECTRICAL FIRE THAT WAS IN THE MAIN CABIN OF THE BOAT. SO, YEAH. THE BOATMEN THAT WERE WORKING THE BOAT USED A DRY EXTINGUISHER TO PUT THAT OUT, SO BUT YEAH, THERE WAS ANOTHER FIRE. SO WE HAD A FIRST ALARM RESPONSE TO THAT. BUT I REPORTED JUST LIGHT WHITE WISPY SMOKE. I GOT ON SCENE, INTERFACED FACE TO FACE WITH THE GUYS, AND WE ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT. SO THE NEXT TWO ENGINE COMPANY, I SAID, HEY, COME WITH YOUR TOOLS, GIVE ME A TICK, A THERMAL IMAGING CAMERA. LET'S TAKE A LOOK, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT EXTENDED ANYWHERE AND THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER ISSUES. SO BUT YEAH, YOU ARE CORRECT. MY APOLOGIES. THANKS. I FORGOT IT. I WAS ACTUALLY I WAS THE INCIDENT INITIAL INCIDENT COMMANDER. SOUNDS LIKE LESS OF A FIRE. I HAD HEARD VERY SMALL DETAILS ABOUT IT. YEAH, IT ACTUALLY, I MEAN, NOT TO MAKE. NO, I'M NOT MAKING LIGHT OF THE FIRE, BUT IT TURNED IN, ACTUALLY TO BE LIKE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE ONE IN DECEMBER, LET'S SAY. YEAH, THEY HAVE A WAY OF GETTING AWAY FROM YOU POTENTIALLY. YEAH, SO FAR ONE A MONTH, THIS MONTH SO FAR JUST A SKATEBOARD. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. LITHIUM SKATEBOARD. IN THE FIRST FIRE, YOU SAID GARDEN HOSES. WHY NOT THE REAL FIRE HOSES ON THE DOCK? I HEARD THEY LEAKED AND WEREN'T USEFUL. SO IT'S ANOTHER LESSON LEARNED WE NEED TO TELL. YEAH. OUR LEASEHOLDER TO PUT IN FIRE HOSES? YEAH. SO, WELL, THERE'S THAT PIECE OF IT, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE TWO A 10-B:C FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. SO BY CODE THEY CAN HAVE EITHER OR BOTH. SO THE CURRENT LEASEHOLDER HAS DECIDED TO HAVE BOTH. SO WHEN YOU OPEN THOSE CABINETS THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO A 10-B:C. I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME LARGER DRY CHEM EXTINGUISHERS, BUT THERE'S ONE IN EACH CABINET. AND SO THEY'RE ALL UP TO DATE. SO WHY THE INDIVIDUALS DOWN THERE DIDN'T GRAB IT AT THAT TIME? WHO KNOWS, RIGHT. BUT THAT IS A OPTION FOR YOU AS WELL AS FAR AS FIRE EXTINGUISHMENT. BUT AGAIN, SIMILAR LIKE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM. SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AREN'T DESIGNED TO PUT OUT MAJOR FIRES. THEY'RE REALLY DESIGNED TO PUT FIRE IN CHECK, RIGHT? LIKE A HOTEL IS A BUNCH OF LITTLE BOXES AND A BIG BOX. AND THOSE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS EXIST TO HOLD THE FIRE IN CHECK. FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO COME IN AND PUT OUT THE FIRE. SIMILARLY, THE HOSES THAT ARE DOWN THERE, THE DRY CHEM, THEY'RE LIMITED IN THEIR ABILITY AND CAPACITY TO EXTINGUISH FIRE. THEY'RE NOT REALLY MEANT TO PUT OUT LIKE LARGE SCALE FIRES. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS TURNED INTO A LARGE SCALE FIRE. SO NOT FOR NOTHING, AND AGAIN, NOT SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T UTILIZE THEM. AGAIN, IT GETS INTO THE QUESTION LIKE IS THIS IF YOU'RE IN THIS SITUATION, IS THIS REALLY GOING TO FACILITATE A MANAGEMENT AND ULTIMATE EXTINGUISHMENT OF FIRE WITH THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT? YOU NEED PRESSURE. YOU NEED A LOT OF WATER, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE LIMITED IN THEIR SCOPE AND ABILITY TO PUT OUT A FIRE. THEY'RE REALLY THERE FOR INSIPIENT. THOSE WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE ELECTRICAL FIRE, RIGHT. LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE DON'T HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHER ON OUR BOAT. LET'S GO OVER TO THE RED CABINET AND GRAB ONE, RIGHT. NOW IT'S JUST A LITTLE WHITE, WISPY. THIS WAS AN ACTUAL EXPLOSION IN THE ENTIRE BOAT WAS ON FIRE. SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY THAT. IT DOES, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS. IN THE MOMENT, THESE ARE THESE ARE, AS JUST A LAYPERSON, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU MAKE THESE JUDGMENTS AND HOW DO YOU EVEN, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, AS A PROFESSIONAL, I WOULD HOPE THAT I SEE THAT AND WHAT I OBSERVE AND WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED, I KNOW, OKAY, THIS PROBLEM IS GOING TO REQUIRE THIS RESOURCE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH IT, YOU COULD HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, LIKE THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I JUST CAUTION, LIKE WHEN YOU START PULLING FOR STUFF AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUPERMAN FOR THE DAY, THAT'S YOUR DECISION. BUT JUST REALIZE THAT THERE'S RISKS TO THAT AS WELL, RIGHT. WE ALWAYS PREACH SAFETY. SAFETY IS THE VERY FIRST THING. IS IT SAFE TO DO THIS, RIGHT? SHOULD I BE IN THIS SITUATION DOING THIS THING RIGHT? AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I HEAR A BOAT EXPLODE AND THERE'S A LARGE FIRE, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO, [00:35:05] RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE REACT IN ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE MOMENT. AND MY HOPE AND INTENT IS IN A LOT OF CASES, PEOPLE WILL ACT AT THE VERY LEAST, CALL 911. THAT SEEMS SELF-EVIDENT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST ARE LIKE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS AS WELL. IT'S INTERESTING, JUST HUMAN REACTION BECAUSE YOU'RE PUT IN A SITUATION, YOU BEAR WITNESS TO SOMETHING IF YOU'VE NEVER WITNESSED IT BEFORE. IT CAN ELICIT ALL SORTS OF INTERESTING REACTIONS. I'VE BEEN ON PLENTY OF CALLS WHERE YOU'RE JUST LIKE THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS PERSON IS LIKE YELLING AT ME OR I DON'T UNDERSTAND. UNTIL YOU REFLECT OR YOU UNDERSTAND LATER, JUST YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REACT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS. YEAH. THANKS. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE BIG FIRE HOSES IS THEY MAY SAVE THE BOAT NEXT TO IT, WHICH COULD BE MINE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU, THE BOAT ON MY DOCK THAT'S GOING TO BURN. IT'S THE ONE THAT MAKES A GASOLINE SLICK EVERY TIME IT'S BILGE PUMP COMES ON. AND WHEN HE STARTS IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPLOSION. AND, YOU KNOW, LUCKILY, I'M LIKE FOUR BOATS AWAY FROM IT. YEAH. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE FIRE HOSES ARE A WASTE OF TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT TROUBLES ME, THAT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, SOMEONE WOULD RUN TO A FIRE HOSE AND PULL ON IT AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, A THREE STOOGES MOVIE. YEAH. SO, YEAH, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE, YOU CAN HAVE A BACKUP TO A 10-B:C. I MEAN, THAT'S THE CODE, RIGHT? SO YOU EITHER HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH. AND IN THIS CASE THEY'VE GOT BOTH. THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE A REDUNDANT SYSTEM IF YOU WILL. OH, THIS ISN'T WORKING. I'VE GOT THE EXTINGUISHER, RIGHT. SO, YEAH. THANKS. SWITCHING GEARS, ONE LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE. DO YOU GUYS DO OR KNOW OF ANY MANAGEMENT OF SEA LIONS ON THE DOCKS? IS IT YOU GUYS? IS IT THE MARINAS? I MEAN, WE MAY BE ABLE TO KEEP SEA LIONS FROM GETTING SHOT IN THE FACE. YEAH. IF THEY'RE A LITTLE LESS AGGRESSIVE ON THE DOCKS, A LITTLE LESS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOZENS OF THEM ON THE BACK OF A BOAT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LESS SCARY. YEAH. WE DON'T ACTIVELY MANAGE THE SEA LIONS. YEAH. I MEAN, WE'LL GET TO THAT. I MEAN, ALL WE CAN DO IS JUST, LIKE, CLAP AND SCARE THEM, RIGHT? THEY JUMP OFF AND THEY COME BACK LATER. SO I KNOW FOR US USING THE SEAL, THE, LIKE, RUBBER SEAL SPIKES THAT ARE AROUND THE EDGES OF OUR FINGERS, THOSE WORK REALLY WELL. THEY DON'T PENETRATE THE SKIN. THEY'RE JUST SUPER ANNOYING, RIGHT. FOR THEM, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT FEELS. SO, IF BOATERS DON'T HAVE THOSE, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT SIGHTLY, ESTHETICALLY, THEY DON'T LOOK GREAT, BUT THEY WORK REALLY WELL, AND THEY'RE HUMANE, AND THEY KEEP THEM OFF OUR FINGERS. BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE BOAT. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, LIKE, WE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, SEAL REPELLENT OR ANYTHING OR ANY WAY TO MANAGE THAT ISSUE. I KNOW. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU KNEW OF ANYONE IN THE, IN ANY OF THE MARINAS MANAGING IT OR. NOT THAT I'M AWARE. ANYTHING BEING DONE ON IT. YEAH. NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO NOT ACTIVELY MANAGING THE SEA LION ISSUE. YEAH. SO THANKS. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS. NO, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. SO ASK AWAY. SERIOUSLY, LET'S WORK ON A BUDGET PACKAGE. I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP TO ROGER'S QUESTION. YOUR RESPONSE REGARDING, I KNOW IF I WERE TO GO AROUND AND ASK MOST VOTERS, YOU KNOW HOW TO USE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER, HOW TO USE A FIRE HOSE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO, WELL, YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, PUSH THE LEVER. AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A TRAINING OR DEMONSTRATIONS OCCASIONALLY ON HOW TO DO THESE THINGS? 100% AND COMMISSIONER COLLER, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT OUT. AND IN FACT, I SAW ROGER A FEW DAYS AGO AND I MENTIONED IT TO HIM. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A, THE EQUIVALENCY OF A FIRE SERVICE DAY FOR THE BOATING COMMUNITY. SO OUR INTENT IS TO BRING THAT IN APRIL PRIOR TO THE OPENING DAYS. RESCUE BOAT SPECIALIST JAKE STEELMAN IS SPEARHEADING THIS. I'M PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR HIM. WE'RE GOING TO REACH A NUMBER OF TOPICS ON THAT DAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FULL DAY. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT AT. IF IT'S GOING TO BE STATION THREE, MOONSTONE PARK, ONE OF THE YACHT CLUB PARKING LOTS, BUT WE WILL BE COVERING FIRST AID, CPR, FIRE EXTINGUISHER USAGE. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THE FIRE PAN THAT WE USE FOR OUR CERT PROGRAM, AND EVERYONE WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER. WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THAT. PULL, AIM, SQUEEZE, SWEEP. TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF FIRES THAT IT PUTS OUT. THE SUBSTANCE THAT'S IN THERE WILL COVER FIRE EXTINGUISHERS A TO Z FOR SURE ON THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT SHORTLY HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR THE BOATING COMMUNITY. AND THEN MY INTENT IS TO FOLLOW THAT UP WITH THE NEWSLETTER WITH MORE GENERAL INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T ATTEND THAT DAY AS WELL. SO SPECIFICALLY AROUND HANDS-ONLY, CPR, BASIC FIRST AID AND USAGE OF A FIRE EXTINGUISHER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU, CURT. YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. [00:40:05] NOW I'M GOING TO ASK SERGEANT BANACH FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME UP AND GO OVER SOME OF THE STATS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME FINALLY GET IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, I APOLOGIZE. AGAIN, SERGEANT BANACH. IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD HERE IN JUNE OF THIS PAST YEAR, I GOT INTO A FOOT PURSUIT AND TORE MY KNEE UP PRETTY BAD AND HAD SURGERY BEEN OUT SINCE JUNE. HAD SURGERY IN SEPTEMBER. JUST GOT BACK ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. I'M NOT BACK FULL DUTY YET. I'M STILL REHABBING, DOING SOME PRP INJECTIONS TO GET MY KNEE BACK GOING INTO A BETTER PLACE. BUT I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF EVERYONE HERE TODAY AND KIND OF GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND OF WHO I AM. KIND OF WHAT I'VE DONE, WHAT MY EXPERIENCE IS HERE WITH THE PIER. AND THEN AGAIN, OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION HERE, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, RIGHT. SO AGAIN, JOHN BANACH BEEN WITH THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE FOR 12 YEARS, SPENT SEVEN YEARS IN ARIZONA PRIOR TO THAT. I'M A SOUTH BAY KID. MY OLD MAN WORKED HERE FOR 28 YEARS, JIM BANACH. HE SPENT NINE YEARS IN THE PIER, THE LATE 80S AND EARLY 90S. MY STEPMOM, KELLY BANACH, SPENT 24 YEARS AS A HARBOR PATROL. WATCHED HER TRANSITION FROM, YOU KNOW, PIER HARBOR PATROL TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO GO FROM POLICE SERVICE TO FIRE SERVICE. SO I HAVE A REALLY GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE PIER IS, HOW IT'S TRANSITIONED, WHERE IT'S BEEN FROM THE 80S, 90S, THE EARLY 2000, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON IN THE PIER, THE CLUBS THAT WE HAD AT ONE TIME HARBOR DRIVE THAT I'M SURE WE ALL REMEMBER AT ONE TIME PRIOR TO SOME OF MY TIME, BUT I GET TO HEAR LIEUTENANT WHITMAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. THE CRUISING UP AND DOWN THE HARBOR DRIVE. BUT AGAIN, HOW THE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, HOW THE PIER'S CHANGED AND HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CHANGED AND HOW WE'VE OPERATED DIFFERENTLY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND HOW IT'S TRANSITIONED TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. UNIQUELY WE DO HAVE OUR BOAT. WE'VE HAD OUR BOAT IN OPERATION NOW SINCE CHIEF KAUFFMAN WAS AROUND. WE HAVE TWO BOAT OPERATORS. THAT IS A HEAVY, HEAVY TASK. AID TO FIND A OPERATOR SCHOOL. THEY RUN ABOUT TWO IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THEY RUN TWO POST CERTIFIED BOAT OPERATOR SCHOOLS A YEAR. THEY'RE TWO WEEKS LONG. THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE INTEREST, RIGHT? I CAN'T SEND WE CAN'T AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, CAN'T SEND PEOPLE THERE WITHOUT INTEREST. SO WE SOLICIT MEMOS OF INTEREST, WE GET INTEREST. AND NOW I HAVE TWO YOUNG, YOUNG POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE WHO ARE THRIVING, WHO ARE MOTIVATED. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE PIER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF OFFICER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF DRIVE, A CERTAIN TYPE OF WANT. AND WE FIND THAT WITH SOME OF THE NEWER BLOOD, SOME OF THE NEWER YOUNG OFFICERS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOLD AND WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF GUIDE AND GIVE A LOT OF DIRECTION. AGAIN, THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, IT'S A GOOD BEACH COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT A SOUTH CENTRAL LAPD, RIGHT? WE WORK WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT OUR OFFICER'S EXPERIENCE. WHAT WE FIND, AND FOR 40 YEARS, WE FOUND SENDING OUR YOUNG OFFICERS TO THE PIER TO GAIN THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE WILL SET THEM UP FOR THEIR 30 YEAR CAREER. AND THE PIER, WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO FAMILY ISSUES, THE ALCOHOL ISSUES, TRANSIENT POPULATIONS ENTERING OUR PIER. DIFFERENT CITIES. OKAY. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH SOME OF THE GRAFFITI THAT'S OCCURRED HERE IN THE PAST 6 OR 7 MONTHS, DIFFERENT CITIES AND DIFFERENT GANG MEMBERS WHO COME TO OUR PIER. AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T THE EARLY 90S, BUT WE STILL HAVE THESE THINGS GOING ON. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE NOT SEEING, YOU KNOW, RED AND BLUE RAGS AROUND OUR PIER. AND AGAIN, I COME FROM A POINT WHERE I COULDN'T, WHERE EVERYONE REMEMBERS THEM AGING MYSELF. BK NIGHTS, I COME FROM A POINT WHERE YOU COULDN'T WEAR BK NIGHTS TO THE PIER. YOU'RE LAUGHING BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER. REMEMBER THAT WAS THE BLOOD KILLERS. MY DAD, 09, 10, 11 YEARS OLD. YOU CAN'T WEAR BK NIGHTS. SO WE'VE MOVED ON. WE'RE NOT IN THAT REALM WHERE KIDS AREN'T ABLE TO, TO WALK AROUND OUR PIER AND ENJOY OUR PIER AND ENJOY THOSE THINGS. BUT WE DO STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. WITH ALCOHOL COMES PROBLEMS. WE'VE DEVELOPED A GREAT RELATIONSHIP OVER THE LAST 6 OR 7 YEARS WITH ABC. WE FREQUENTLY TALK WITH ABC AND WE RUN OPERATIONS BACK AND FORTH WITH ABC. PRIOR TO BECOMING THE PIER SERGEANT, I WORKED WITH QUALITY-OF-LIFE, THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE DESK. MARRIED UP WITH THE PIER AND GAVE US THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, [00:45:05] THESE THINGS THAT AS A POLICE OFFICER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PRIOR TO HAVING THAT QUALITY-OF-LIFE UNIT, WE HAD A SEPARATION, RIGHT? WE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT WORK FROM THE CITY AND WERE UNDER THEIR OWN GUYS. WE'VE NOW MARRIED UP CODE ENFORCEMENT UNDER THE GUISE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER. SO WE WORK QUALITY-OF-LIFE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS WORKING HOMELESS DETAIL, AND WE HAVE THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE OFFICER DEALING WITH THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF QUALITY-OF-LIFE. WHY I MENTIONED THAT, WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THE PIERS? WE DO HAVE QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES WITH THE PIER. MY PIER, MY TWO PERSONNEL AT THE PIER, THEY WORK FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY. I WORK MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY IN ORDER TO GET SIX DAY OF COVERAGE AT THAT PIER. UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE I SAID, I'M OUT PLAYING THE LIMP, SICK, LAME AND LAZY HERE RECOVERING HERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET SIX DAYS BACK ON THE PIER HERE VERY SOON. AS THE SUMMER MONTHS START TO BEGIN HERE, WE INCREASE OUR PERSONNEL AT THE PIER. THIS WILL BE MY SECOND SUMMER AT THE PIER. HOW I WORK THIS AGAIN, BEING PART OF THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE TEAM IN THE SUMMERTIME, I BRING MY SROS, SO MY SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION, SO DURING THEIR SUMMER MONTHS, THEY'RE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY OR THEIR TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY GIG. WE NOW BRING THEM TO THE PIER ONCE SCHOOL COMES OUT. ON TOP OF THAT, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS BEEN IN OUR PIER OFFICE. WE DID A COMPLETE REMODEL, PROVIDED 5 TO 6 EXTRA DESKS AND WORKING STATIONS. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO MSOS ON THE WEEKENDS WHO NOW COME IN AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE REPORTS, WRITE TICKETS, OPEN UP THAT FRONT DESK AND ALLOW PEOPLE NOW, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DO AGAIN, ALLOW PEOPLE ACCESS TO THAT PIER SUBSTATION SO THEY CAN COME IN, THEY TALK ABOUT LOST PROPERTY, TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER DOING AT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS OLD WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM AND JUST THINGS AND STAFFING ISSUES AND HOW WE'VE, WE'VE WE'VE MAINTAINED AND MANAGED WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PIER, IN THE HARBOR. WE'RE STARTING TO TO BRIDGE SOME OF THOSE GAPS AND GET BACK TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING AND MAYBE SOME RECOGNIZABLE TYPE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE. BUT AGAIN, A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHO I AM AND WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE DIRECTION AS FAR AS STATS AND THINGS ARE CONCERNED, AGAIN, THE PIER IS CHANGED DYNAMICALLY LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST 6 OR 7 MONTHS. THE STATS, IF WE WERE TO RUN UP THE STATS QUARTERLY, THE STATS MARRY UP UNTIL YOU GET TO THE SUMMER MONTHS AS THE TEMPERATURE AS THINGS START TO HEAT UP. AS THE WEEKEND, RIGHT, WE GET 80 DEGREES. WE LOOK AT OUR PIER, WE LOOK AT OUR BEACHES, AND WE SEE PEOPLE UP. SO THAT'S HOW WE WE WE RIDE ON STAFFING. AS THE CROWDS COME, WE START EMPLOYING AND GETTING MORE PEOPLE DOWN TO THE PIER, AND IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO PICK FROM THAT QUALITY-OF-LIFE AND HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT ARE ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS FOR US. TALK HEAVY ABOUT THE GRAFFITI THAT OCCURRED. WE HAD A LARGE GRAFFITI ISSUE AND OUTSIDE SOUTH LOS ANGELES GANG CAME IN AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND THEY TAGGED UP FLORENCIA 13, WHICH IS A VERY WELL-KNOWN PROMINENT GANG IN THE LA AREA. IT'S VERY ISOLATED INCIDENT, BUT IT CAUSED A LOT OF DAMAGE. THEY GOT INTO VETERANS PARK. WE'RE DOING THE REMODEL AND THE WINDOWS AND VETERANS PARK AND CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. FROM THAT TIME BEING FROM 2 TO 3 HOURS THROUGHOUT THE GRAVEYARD SHIFTS. WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS WALKING THE PIER TO ACCOUNT FOR WHEN OUR GUYS AREN'T THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AT THIS TIME. SO WE'RE PUTTING EXTRA PATROL. WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE OUT THERE AND TRYING TO, IT'S JUST TOUGH BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. TALKING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, TALKING WITH PEOPLE IN THE YACHT CLUB. IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE TORRANCE SAYS, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. AND WE NEED HELP FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE NEED PEOPLE TO CALL 911. WE NEED PEOPLE TO CALL NON-EMERGENCY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. IT'S UNIQUE IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, WHEN YOU CALL US, WE COME. IT'S NOT LIKE SOME OTHER CITIES WHERE WE HAVE A PRIORITY LIST. WHEN A POLICEMAN BECOMES AVAILABLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE A PIER OFFICER OR IF THEY'RE WORKING AREA FIVE OFF OF AVIATION AND MARINE. WE HAVE A CALL FOR SERVICE. WE'RE GOING TO COME TO THE PIER. SO THERE'S REALLY NO THERE'S NO HOLDING OF CALLS. WE DON'T HOLD CALLS IN THE CITY OF REDONDO. AGAIN, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, I'VE BEEN OUT FOR 7-8 MONTHS HERE, BUT WE'LL BE KICKING IT UP AND GETTING IN THE SWING OF THINGS. I'M PLEASED. I'D LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING. I'M SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR KNEE. I HOPE YOU'RE ON THE MEND. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, LIKE. I SEE SOME THINGS LIKE DISTURBANCE AND DISTURBANCE REPORT? [00:50:02] YEAH. SO THOSE ARE HOW THEY'RE DISPOSITIONED. SO YOU HAVE A 415 DISTURBANCE. A 415 IS A DISTURBANCE CALL. YOU HAVE MAYBE A LOUD MUSIC CALL. HEY, YOU GUYS MIND TURNING DOWN? TURNING DOWN THAT MUSIC. COMPARED TO, HEY, YOU HAVE AN ONGOING TYPE ISSUE OF A DISTURBANCE TO NOW WHERE IT WARRANTS. HEY, THIS IS AN ONGOING. THIS HAS BECOME SOME TYPE OF A QUALITY OF LIFE OR A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHERE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE ACTION AT THE TIME OF 415 BECAUSE WE MAY NEED A VICTIM, BUT WE NEED TO MEMORIALIZE IT IN A REPORT. I'M HUGE ON THAT. WHEN IN DOUBT, WRITE IT OUT. I SPENT SEVEN YEARS AS AN FTO. I'M HUGE ON DOCUMENTATION. UNFORTUNATELY, IT HELPS A BIT WITH THE INVENTIVE BODY CAMS TO MEMORIALIZE SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT IN MY PROFESSION, IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN, IT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED. 30-40 YEARS AGO, WE GOT ON THE STAND AND OUR WORD WAS SOLID AGAIN. NOW THEY'RE TELLING US IT'S DIFFERENT EVEN WHEN IT'S ON BODY CAM. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MEMORIALIZE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TO RECORD. I REALLY PUSH THAT AS A SUPERVISOR ON THE PIER. SO REPORT IS JUST LIKE A ONE OFF KIND OF INCIDENT. IT COULD BE A REPORT. NO, IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED REPORTED, YOU WANT DOCUMENTED, OR IF YOU HAD TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF ENFORCEABLE ACTION, YOU'RE GOING TO PULL A DOCTOR NUMBER AND YOU'LL GET A REPORT RATHER THAN AN ADVISOR. IT WAS AN ADVISOR OR IT'S A NON REPORT IT. I NEED YOU TO KNOCK OFF THE NOISE OR SHUT IT DOWN OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY TURN IT OFF AND NOTES ARE MADE IN THE CALL AND YOU GO FROM THERE. THERE WAS NO FURTHER ESCALATION, IF THERE WAS A REPORT. NO FURTHER ESCALATION. YOU'RE DOCUMENTING IT AND GOING FROM THERE. IF THERE WAS, IF SO, THEN IF ONE OF THESE DOESN'T HAVE THE REPORT AFTER IT, THERE WAS FURTHER ESCALATION? IF ONE OF THEM DOESN'T HAVE A REPORT, LET ME SEE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S SEXUAL ASSAULT REPORT. RAPE REPORT. THOSE ARE REPORTED INCIDENTS. SO DOCUMENTED INCIDENTS. THERE ARE MANY CALLS, LIKE I SAID, 711 CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, I HAVE A TRANSIENT HERE YELLING AND SCREAMING. THAT'S A DOCUMENTED CALL FOR SERVICE. THERE'S NO REPORT CALL. IT'S JUST THERE'S A DOCUMENTED CALL FOR SERVICE HERE, RIGHT? UNLESS YOU HAD A CRIME OR YOU HAD AN ATTACHMENT OR WE MADE SOME TYPE OF ENFORCEABLE ACTION. SO LIKE A 261 REPORT, SOMEBODY REPORTED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. OFFICERS CAME OUT THERE AND TOOK A REPORT. WHERE THE DISPOSITION GOES FROM THERE, THAT MAY BE MONTHS, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIKE HIT AND RUN. NO, NO, NO INJURY HIT AND RUN, NO INJURY REPORT. SO HIT AND RUN, NO INJURY. WE GET THERE, SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, I SAW TWO CARS COLLIDE WITH EACH OTHER. ONE TOOK OFF AND WE GET THERE AND SAYS, HEY, NO, HE DIDN'T HIT ME. I HAVE NO DAMAGE HERE. WE'RE OUT OF HERE. HEY, DO YOU WANT TO REPORT? AND I DON'T NEED A REPORT. I DON'T HAVE ANY DAMAGE. THAT COULD BE MANY INCIDENTS LIKE THAT. THE REPORT WOULD BE AN ACTUAL DOCUMENTED, OUR OFFICERS ARE CALLING AND ASKING FOR A REPORT NUMBER AND TAKING THAT TIME TO MAKE THOSE REPORTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'LL START DOWN THERE. I GUESS JUST FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE GRAFFITI, IS THERE ANY HAS THERE BEEN ANY ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH THAT? HAVE YOU SEEN THAT PARTICULAR GROUP COME BACK INTO THE AREA, OR ARE YOU GUYS OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT? NO, IT WAS VERY ISOLATED. THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED WAS, WAS IT REDONDO SPECIFIC WRITING? SO AGAIN, GROWING UP HERE AND GROWING UP WITH HOW THINGS WERE. AND TWO YEARS AGO ON THE NORTH END OF THE CITY, WE STARTED, WE STARTED SEEING SOME OF THE OLD REDONDO 13. WE STARTED SEEING SOME OF THAT OLD-ASS ART-TYPE GRAFFITI. SO IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED WAS, HEY, ARE WE GETTING LOCAL GRAFFITI OR IS THIS MORE OF AN ISOLATED INCIDENT? I SPOKE TO BOTH OF MY OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, IT WAS ISOLATED. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAD SEEN THE FLORENCIA SHOW UP THERE. WE DO HAVE MODERATE GRAFFITI THAT COMES IN THERE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS A GROUP OF KIDS. WE GOT SOME STUFF ON VIDEO. THEY LITERALLY WALKED THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK ALL THE WAY THROUGH VETERANS PARK AND JUST CAUSE A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE. ABSOLUTELY UNFORTUNATE, BUT ISOLATED IN THAT IN THAT SENSE. AND DO YOU KNOW IF THEY, MAYBE IT DOESN'T MATTER GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT HAD THEY GONE TO ANY OTHER LOCAL CITIES, LIKE DID HERMOSA HAVE ISSUES WITH THEM OR? I HONESTLY, I'D BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY, WE'VE ONLY HEARD OF THIS ISOLATED INCIDENT, AND I DON'T THINK WE KICKED IT OUT TOO FAR BECAUSE IT WAS VERY A ONE-TIME DEAL ON THAT SPECIFIC. OKAY. YEAH. LOOKING OVER THE LIST HERE, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL. IT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 90, 95% OF THIS STUFF IS ALL AT THE PIER. DO YOU GET MUCH AT ALL OUT OF THE MARINAS OR THE HARBOR ITSELF? THE PIERS ARE BIG. THAT'S OUR BIG DRAW. THAT'S WHERE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE COMING, RIGHT WHEN ALCOHOL COMES. THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTS CALLS FOR SERVICE AS THE CROWDS COME, ATTRACTS CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO BOAT OPERATORS THAT REQUIRES THREE, TWO BOAT OPERATORS AND A DECKHAND TO GET OUT ON THAT BOAT. [00:55:04] SO I CAN TELL YOU, THE MAJORITY OF OUR OFFICER'S TIME IS SPENT ON THAT PIER. ON FOOT OR RUNNING THE HARBOR, OFF OF HARBOR DRIVE AND DOING THOSE THINGS. SO MOST OF THOSE STATS ARE LOCATED ON THAT PIER OR AT HARBOR THERE. ALL RIGHT, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I HEAR OCCASIONALLY ABOUT THEFTS IN THE HARBOR AND USUALLY RESPONSES. DID YOU REPORT IT? YOU KNOW, WELL, WHY BOTHER? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. AND SO I'M JUST DO YOU. HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET REPORTS OF THEFTS IN THE HARBOR? I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY OFF OF BOATS VERSUS, LIKE, THE HOTELS. IT DOES HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GIANT FREQUENT ISSUE. THEY PROBABLY PULL UP SOME STATS AND THEN GET A TRUE NUMBER. BUT AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR ME IF A CRIME IS ALLEGED, MY GUYS ARE GOING TO PUSH FOR A REPORT. UNFORTUNATELY, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF VICTIMS, THEY DON'T LIKE TO BOTHER THE OFFICER. THEY DON'T LIKE TO BOTHER US. THEY THINK THEY'RE WASTING OUR TIME. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, KIND OF LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN IT MAY NOT HAPPEN. IT MAY NOT MAKE IT TO THAT STAT SHEET. IT MAY NOT MAKE IT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SET A PLAN OF WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO GO FORWARD AND HOW TO ATTACK A PROBLEM IF I DON'T KNOW THAT PROBLEM EXISTS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T WRITE IT DOWN, I DON'T KNOW. I MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO DEPLOY MY RESOURCES. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU LEARN THAT FROM DOING SOME DETECTIVE WORK AND READING BAD REPORTS OR NONE AT ALL FOR A WHILE. SO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE. HEY, I ENCOURAGE MY PEOPLE. IF YOU'RE A VICTIM, IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TAKEN, YOU WERE A VICTIM OF ANYTHING. WE NEED TO GET THAT DOWN ON PAPER AND NOT WITH AN INCIDENT, WE NEED TO GET IT WITH A DEPARTMENTAL REPORT NUMBER. I TELL THEM I'LL CALL ANYWAY. IF WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. BUT IF YOU DON'T TELL US, NOBODY KNOWS. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE NEED TO KNOW. AGAIN, IT'S, WE ARE NOT BOTHERED BY THE INTAKE OF REPORTS, BY THE INTAKE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND AGAIN, IT'S A TOUGH THING. I KNOW, SOME FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BOTHERING US. KIDS FISHING? NO, WE NEED YOU TO, WE NEED YOU TO CALL. I SAID I HAVE TWO, AND THEN IT'S ME ON MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY. WHEN THE KIDS HOP THAT FENCE AND WHEN THEY START FISHING ON THOSE ROCKS, PLEASE CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY. CALL THE FRIGGING EMERGENCY. LET'S GO GET AN OFFICER OVER THERE. JUST BECAUSE MY GUYS AREN'T WORKING UP HERE. WE WILL SEND. LIKE I SAID, I'LL GO TO AVIATION AND MARINE AND I'LL SEND SOMEBODY. 15 MINUTES THIS WAY TO GET THERE. IT'S A HELL OF A HELL OF A TIME DEALING WITH JUVENILES, BUT THAT'S AN ISSUE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE ATTACKED. BUT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. I HAVE MY GUYS WALKING THE THING. BUT AGAIN, WHERE THEY'RE WALKING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE FOCUSING ON WHERE THE CRIMES ARE. THEY'RE FOCUSING WHERE THE WHERE THE ALCOHOL IS BEING SERVED. THEY'RE FOCUSING ON WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GETTING HURT, WHERE THE TRANSIENTS ARE COMING AND CAUSING SOME TYPES OF PROBLEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UNLESS THEY'RE GETTING OVER THERE ON THAT CONSISTENT BASIS, UNLESS WE KNOW ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE MAY NOT KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OH, I HAD ONE THING. YOU JOGGED MY MEMORY. I HEARD SOME KIND OF ANECDOTAL THING ABOUT END OF MARINA WAY AND MOONSTONE PARK. JUST, HAS THERE BEEN AN UPTICK IN THE LAST YEAR ON THINGS THERE, I'M GUESSING WOULD KIND OF FALL INTO THE DRUG. YEAH, WELL, WHAT I'VE NOTICED AT THE END OF MOONSHINE PARK IS KIND OF THE SAME THING I JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE KIDS HOPPING OVER IN THE YACHT CLUB. THERE'S A GROUP OF KIDS WHO ARE AVID. TWO THINGS, THE E-BIKES, AND THEY'RE FISHERMEN. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF 14 TO 17, 18 YEAR OLD FISHERMEN. AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, BUDDY, THE FISH ARE ON THE ROCKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM. SMOKING, SMOKING SOME DOPE, DOING DRUGS. AGAIN, PLEASE, YOU SEE A GROUP OF PEOPLE, YOU SEE KIDS, WE HAVE THESE TITLE 12 THINGS IN PLACE, SMOKING IN PUBLIC. BESIDES THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE JUVENILES AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE SMOKING. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE THINGS, IF WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW, CALL. ESPECIALLY YOU SEE THEM DOING FISHING WHERE THERE ARE SIGNS POSTED. HEY, JUST CALL. IT'S NOT A BOTHER. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. I UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T HAVE MY TWO GUYS EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. SO JUST ENCOURAGE OR ENCOURAGE THE REPORTING OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. I WOULD SAY. BUT YEAH, THERE IS AN UPTICK THAT, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THE KIDS HAVE BEEN CONGREGATING ON THE E-BIKES AND DOING THOSE THINGS. OKAY, THOSE KIND OF CRIMES. SO THE MORE SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, ASSAULT AND THOSE THINGS ARE ALL AT THE PIER. I WOULDN'T SAY ALL AT THE PIER, BUT THEY'RE MORE PIER RELATED. YEAH. YOU'RE GETTING THE ASSAULTS. YOU'RE GETTING THE FAMILY DISTURBANCES. YEAH. AS THEY EMPTY OUT OF THE BARS. THAT'S VERY CONSISTENT SINCE, AGAIN, MY EXPERIENCE FROM THE 80S ON TO 2026 IS WHEN YOU DUMP OUT ENERGIES, YOU DUMP OUT OF, YOU KNOW, STARBOARD, YOU DUMP OUT OF THE BAR. THAT'S WHEN THE FIGHT, SO THAT'S WHEN THOSE THINGS START OCCURRING AS YOU'RE WALKING TO YOUR CAR, AS YOU'RE GETTING AS THE NIGHT GETS, GETS GOING. MY GUYS ARE THE BUSIEST BETWEEN [01:00:06] 12 AND 2. THAT'S THEIR BUSY TIME FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT'S THEIR BUSY TIME FOR THE FOR THE TOUGH STUFF. BUT BEFORE THAT, THEY'RE ACTIVE. ACTIVE, ACTIVE. WHAT ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE? PARKING GARAGE. WE GET CRIME IN THE PARKING GARAGE, RIGHT? WE GET. WE GET HIT AND RUNS IN THE PARKING GARAGE. ALCOHOL RELATED CRIMES. SOMEBODY SMACKS A CAR ON THEIR WAY OUT AND CONTINUES GOING. THE FAMILY DISTURBANCES, IT OFTEN TIMES END AT THE CAR. IN THE CAR, AS THE CAR RIDE GOES RIGHT. AS THE BARS DUMP OUT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IF ANY OF US WERE AROUND FOR MOXIE'S AND THINGS THAT USED TO BE A THING. WE USED TO TAKE EIGHT OFFICERS AT 1:45 IN THE MORNING. WE WOULD PUT FOUR OF THEM DOWN IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND FOUR OF THEM AT TOP, BECAUSE IT WAS GAME ON, BECOME 2:00 IN THE MORNING. MOXIE'S DUMPED OUT AND FIGHTS WERE BREAKING OUT. THANK GOD. YOU KNOW, AT 20 YEARS INTO MY CAREER, I'M GLAD THAT'S NOT GOING ON ANYMORE. AND WE'RE NOT HANDLING BUSINESS THAT WAY. BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YEAH, ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, THOSE NIGHTS AT THE AT THE END, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO BE AGAIN, TO TRY TO CATCH THESE THINGS. AND WE DO RECEIVE CALLS FOR SERVICES. A LOT OF THEM ARE FAMILY DISTURBANCES THAT GO ON IN THERE. THANKS. YEP. THANKS. THANKS FOR COMING. YES, SIR. YOU MENTIONED WORKING WITH THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE TEAM. SO THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE GROUP, YOU KNOW, IN THE REST OF THE CITY, THEY WOULD DO STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN ABANDONED HOUSE COLLAPSE AND ROOF, UNMOWED YARD, YOU KNOW, JUST A HOUSE FALLING DOWN, UNREGISTERED CAR ON THE STREET. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THEY DEAL WITH, RIGHT? YEAH. YES, SIR. CAN WE DO THAT IN THE HARBOR? YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE THEIR EMAIL? QUALITYOFLIFE@REDONDO.ORG. THAT'S, THEY WORK ON A CODEX AND AN EMAIL SYSTEM. AS WE START BRINGING IN CFMS, THEY START WORKING. THEY'RE WORKING 600 TO 700 CASES AT A TIME. SO YOU HAVE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE HAVE TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND AN ADDITIONAL THREE PART TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND THEY ALL TAKE A PIECE OF THE PIE. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR QUALITY-OF-LIFE POLICE OFFICER WHO IS THAT MIDDLE MAN WHO STARTS TO DEAL WITHIN THAT? THAT MIDDLE LINE BETWEEN, HEY, THE POLICE NEED TO BE INVOLVED WHEN IT STEPS UP TO THAT CRIMINAL LEVEL. ARE WE SITTING AT THAT TITLE 12? AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SEND A POLICEMAN IN TO GO TELL SOMEBODY TO GO TAKE THEIR TRASH CANS IN, RIGHT. BUT THERE'S CERTAIN TIMES WHERE IT REACHES THAT LEVEL. I IMPLORE YOU TO MAKE CFM REQUEST ON AND QUALITY-OF-LIFE STRAIGHT EMAILS. IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THEM. I'M STILL ATTACHED TO IT. I READ ALL MY QUALITY-OF-LIFE EMAILS. SO WHEN I SEE SOMETHING COME UP IN THE HARBOR IN MY AREA OF CONCERN, I CAN JUMP ON IT RATHER THAN WAITING. BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE DEALING WITH A LIST OF 6 TO 700 CASES ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. EVERY DAY SOMEBODY'S CALLING MY NEIGHBORS DOING THIS. THIS GUY ACROSS THE STREET IS DOING THIS. THIS IS HAPPENING HERE. SO AS WE WORK IT, IT GETS PRIORITY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE MY OFFICER COMES INTO PLAY. HEY, THAT'S SOMETHING MY OFFICER CAN GO OUT. HE'S IN A BLACK AND WHITE POLICE VEHICLE. HE CAN GO TACKLE THIS MESS. IT'S A POLICE MATTER AND IT CAN HAPPEN THAT WAY. SO I IMPLORE YOU TO MAKE THOSE REQUESTS ON THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE EMAIL. WHEN YOU DO THIS IN THE REST OF THE CITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BLIGHT MAY NOT IN ITSELF BE A CRIME, BUT IT STARTS, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE SEEN. IN POLICE WORK, IN MY 20 YEARS OF THE ADVENT OF THE QUALITY-OF-LIFE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD A CAR PARKED ON THE STREET THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD A 20-YEAR-OLD REGISTRATION ON IT. IT'S UP TO SOMEBODY TO TELL US IT HAS 20-YEAR REGISTRATION. WE'RE NOT DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR THE 20-YEAR REGISTRATION. MY POLICE OFFICERS HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO, RATHER THAN DRIVE AROUND, LOOK FOR REGISTRATION. YOU'RE GIVING ME A LOOK OF HORROR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW MY NEXT QUESTION. I CAN SHOW YOU ANY NUMBER OF BOATS THAT ARE 20 YEARS UNREGISTERED, COVERED IN MOLD. THERE MIGHT BE A DEAD GUY IN THERE. YOU WANT TO MAKE A CALL OR WRITE AN EMAIL, AND I'LL GET MY GUYS TO GO OUT THERE AND START MAKING AN INVESTIGATION. IF WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT HAPPENING. NO, SIR. SO AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF THOSE QUALITY-OF-LIFE THINGS, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS TO ADVISE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO IN THERE AND CHECK ON THESE THINGS. AND AGAIN, IF WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO TACKLE IT. SO IF THIS IS A COMPLAINT, THIS IS SOMETHING GOING ON. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND WE CAN TAKE ENFORCEABLE ACTION AND WE'LL TAKE ENFORCEABLE ACTION. BUT IF I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, I CAN'T TAKE ENFORCEABLE ACTION. SO I HATE THE BLIGHT IN THE HARBOR, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT LOOK RUNDOWN, BRINGING IN PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT UNPLEASANT PLACE FOR LIVEABOARDS TO LIVE. SO THANKS I APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. A QUICK FOLLOW UP. YOU MENTIONED THE EMAIL ADDRESS ALSO THAT ACCESS REDONDO APP. YES. GETS YOU RIGHT. THAT'LL GET TO THE CALL. YEAH. THAT QUALITY-OF-LIFE THAT KICKS OUT TO. YEAH THAT'S THE EMAIL YOU WANT. THAT'S THE ONE. YEP. HOW ADEQUATELY DO YOU FEEL YOUR STAFFED? WE MOVE AS THE MONTHS GO, RIGHT. AS WE GET INTO THE WARMER MONTHS, AND I GET TO PULL THE SROS AND I GET TO PULL MY CODE. WE'RE IN A REALLY, REALLY GOOD PLACE. [01:05:06] IT'S TOUGH, I CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT GETS. WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN AT THE END OF JANUARY, IT'S 80 AND I GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THE BEACH. I GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AT THE PIER, AND I GOT TWO BOAT OPERATORS, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND ONE DECKHAND THAT NEEDS TO GO ON THE PIER AND MY PIER IS EMPTY. THAT MAKES IT TOUGH. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN THE SUMMERTIME I DON'T HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS BECAUSE I GET THAT INFLUX OF THE EXTRA OFFICERS. EVERY HOLIDAY, JULY 4TH, MEMORIAL, WE HIRE AN INFLUX OF 8 TO 12 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE ATVS, THE UTVS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE SAND. AND WE GET PEOPLE; OUR PEOPLE LOVE TO COME OUT DURING THOSE TIMES. HEY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME WHETHER WE'RE AT THE BEACH AND, AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES AND POLICE WORK. I HAVE ALSO SEEN RECENTLY THOSE LIKE ELECTRONIC STREET SIGNS THEY USUALLY HAVE, LIKE AT THE ENTRANCE OF LIKE CONSTRUCTION AREAS. YEAH. TELLING YOU LIKE DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE OR WHATEVER. I'VE SEEN ONE RECENTLY THAT SAYS. WALK YOUR BIKE. NO. IT SAYS THAT REDONDO, YOU CAN VOLUNTEER FOR THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S PROBABLY OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, SO WE RUN A VIP PROGRAM. SO IF YOU'RE AWARE OF OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, YOU GO THROUGH OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE ATTACHED TO A LOT OF VOLUNTEERING. SO WHEN WE'RE RUNNING OUR SUPER BOWL 10K, OUR 4TH OF JULY 10K, WE'LL LEAN. AGAIN, WE CAN'T DO THIS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, 80, 79 BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, LAME AND LAZY HERE. 7 AND A HALF. 7 AND A HALF, THAT'S RIGHT. SO, WE REALLY RELY ON OUR VIPS AND OUR VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT. THEY'LL RUN TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR US. THEY REALLY HELP US OUT ON THE 4TH OF JULY. SO A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY SOLICITING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO COME HELP IN POLICING. THOSE OF YOU WATCHING AT HOME AND THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, GOOD OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU. NICE TO MEET EVERYBODY, FINALLY. THANK YOU. CONTINUE DOING WELL. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CARE TO ADD? NO. A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSE. EXCELLENT. RECEIVED. CONSIDERED. FILED. ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS FUN. I, ITEMS FROM STAFF, LIAISONS REPORTS. YEAH. KATHERINE'S GOING TO COVER THIS FOR US. [M. ITEMS FROM STAFF] OKAY, SO KICKING IT OFF, AS THE HARBOR MASTER PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR THE SEA BASS PENS ON JANUARY 26TH. SO THERE'S AN ARTICLE AND SOME PHOTOS ON THE WEBSITE IF YOU ALL WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT. STAFF IS EXTREMELY HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WE SUBMITTED THE BOAT LAUNCH GRANT APPLICATION ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 31ST. DBW DID CONFIRM THEY RECEIVED THE APPLICATION FROM THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE NEXT YEAR IS KIND OF JUST WAITING FOR US. WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR THEIR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF THEY WANT TO COME OUT FOR A SITE VISIT, BUT IT'S REALLY IN THEIR HANDS TO DO ALL OF THE REVIEW OF THE MATERIALS AND STAFF WILL BE AROUND FOR ANY KINDS OF QUESTIONS. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, IT IS WITH THEM TO REVIEW, AND WE DON'T EXPECT AN UPDATE, AN OFFICIAL UPDATE UNTIL NEXT JANUARY 2027. SO THAT IS JUST THEIR TIMELINE FOR THIS GRANT. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT WORKING ON THE TECHNICAL STUDIES FOR CEQA, AND THEY HOPE THAT THE CEQA WOULD WRAP UP MAYBE IN THE FALL I BELIEVE IS THEIR SCHEDULE OR FALL 2027, SO. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BOAT LAUNCH GRANT APPLICATION IN, WE ARE FULL SWING AHEAD ON THE BASIN THREE SLIPS AND DOCK INFRASTRUCTURE RFP, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH THE HUD GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED. SO WE'RE FINALIZING THE SCOPE WITH CRAIG, THE MARINA OPERATOR DOWN THERE AND WORKING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DOCUMENTS TO SUBMIT TO HUD BEFORE WE CAN GET GOING ON THAT PROJECT. WE ALSO, FOR OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, THE LCP AMENDMENT RFP. WE'RE DOING INTERVIEWS THIS WEEK WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE SHORTLISTED FOR THAT PROJECT, AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO HAVE SOMEBODY UNDER CONTRACT BY MARCH TO GET GOING ON THAT WORK. THE COURTESY DOCK, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE SIGNAGE FOR THE COURTESY DOCK AND SOME OF THE OTHER PREPARATIONS TO GET THAT UP AND GOING, BUT IT SHOULD BE OPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. AND THEN FOR THE BREAKWATER REPAIR PROJECT, THE ARMY CORPS, THEIR CONTRACTOR MET WITH THE CITY AND THE KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB BOARD AT THE END OF JANUARY TO DISCUSS THE STAGING AREAS. THE ARMY CORP NEEDED A FEW DETAILS, A FEW PLANS FROM THE YACHT CLUB, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANTED TO HAVE THIS FOCUSED MEETING WITH THEM. AND THEY'RE NOW TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND ARE TRYING TO FINALIZE THEIR STAGING PLANS AND THE TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN ONCE THEY ONCE THEY HAVE THOSE DETAILS SOLIDIFIED, WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A, WE ARE GOING TO HOST A LARGER STAKEHOLDER MEETING SO WE CAN [01:10:03] UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS FROM THE PLAN. AND THEN, WE DID, FOR THE FUND. YEP. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING THIS SPRING OR THIS YEAR THEN, OR. HE TOLD ME TODAY THAT THEY'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR MARCH TO START. WOW. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. SO. YEAH. AND. DO YOU SEE A YEAR? WE HAD THE REQUEST FOR INTEREST FOR THE FUND FACTORY SITE. WE ARE EXCITED TO SAY WE DID RECEIVE TWO PROMISING PROPOSALS FOR THE FUND FACTORY AND STAFF WERE ACTUALLY TAKING IT TO CLOSED SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW, JUST FOR THE INITIAL REVIEW OF THOSE IDEAS. SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED WHEN WE CAN. AND THEN ONE FRESH UPDATE WE HAVE FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE REPORT. IS THAT THEY JUST ORDERED SEVEN WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATIONS FOR THE PIER. SO THEY PUT THAT WORK ORDER. THEY PUT THAT ORDER IN TODAY, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THEM IN THE NEXT MONTH AND THEN THE MONTH, AND THEN CAN THEY CAN INSTALL THEM, BUT THEY'LL BE SEVEN STATIONS KIND OF WHERE THE EXISTING WATER FOUNTAINS ARE JUST SO THAT, BECAUSE THE PLUMBING'S ALREADY THERE AND THEY WILL BE FILTERED WATER AND THEY WILL ALSO BE ADA COMPLIANT. SO THEY'LL HAVE THE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS FOR THOSE WATER BOTTLE STATIONS. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 9TH. AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MARCH MEETING, SO IF THE COMMISSION HAS ANYTHING, LET US KNOW. ANYBODY PLANNING ON VACATION FROM MARCH 9TH WILL BE HERE? THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO CANCEL IT. IT'S TRULY UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE COULD PRESENT, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GET BACK WITH SOME RESEARCH AND EVERYTHING TO DISCUSS, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT OTHERWISE, WE CAN STILL MEET AND JUST DO A LIAISON REPORT. AND THAT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY THE MEETING. BUT IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED WITH A FEW UPDATES. RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS LIST THAT YOU THINK WILL BE UPDATED IN A MONTH? MAYBE. THE BREAKWATER. BREAKWATER? YEAH. THERE. HOPEFULLY. TOO EARLY FOR A BUDGET MEETING? AND THAT'S THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, HOT ITEM I CAN THINK ABOUT IN THE NEXT. NO, IT'S NEVER TOO LATE FOR ANY TOPIC OR TOO EARLY, I MEAN. I JUST, THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH STAFF SUPPORT FOR THAT. IT WOULD JUST BE A DISCUSSION AMONGST YOU GUYS AND THAT WE COULD TAKE NOTES. WE'RE USUALLY DOING THAT LIKE JUNE. USUALLY, YEAH. YEAH. JUNE IS WHEN COUNCIL ADOPTS IT. IT USUALLY APPEARS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION APRIL ISH. SO, IF YOU WANTED TO GET A HEAD START ON THE DISCUSSION TO KICK AROUND SOME IDEAS IN MARCH, YOU COULD DO THAT. AND THEN WHEN THE CITY MANAGER APPEARS IN APRIL, YOU COULD HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION. I WOULD ONLY SUGGEST THAT IF YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, A BIG RAFT OF STUFF COMING IN IN APRIL AND MAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY MANAGE TO FIND TIME FOR THAT AND SPIN IT OFF TO A SUBCOMMITTEE. YEAH. YEAH. WITH THE BUDGET THE WAY IT IS AND MONEY BEING SO TIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT TO DISCUSS IN TERMS OF MONEY GOING AROUND ANYWAY. JUST BEING TRUTHFUL, RIGHT. SO, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE WORK JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CREATING WORK. RIGHT. MOTION TO CANCEL MARCH. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED. DO YOU HAVE A TOPIC? NO. JUST. DO YOU WANT TO SEE OUR FACES. JULIE IS ON HER PORCH. THE MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL CANCEL THE MARCH 9TH MEETING AND RECONVENE IN APRIL. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS IN FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS? NO, THEY'RE NOT. YES. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT. OH, SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. YEAH. THANKS FOR THE REPORT. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE BOAT LAUNCH PROJECT. YOU SAID THE CEQA STUDY WON'T BE DONE UNTIL FALL OF 27. I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW WE'RE ON TRACK. I BELIEVE IT'S FALL OF 26, BUT THERE MIGHT BE. GOT IT. YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD THAT. I'LL JUST ADD THAT OBVIOUSLY THE STATE HAS TO REVIEW OUR APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE QUITE A LONG RUNWAY TO DO THAT, IN HOPES OF TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN LEADING UP TO HOPEFULLY, AN APPROVED GRANT. WE'RE WORKING ON THE CEQA, KIND OF IN PARALLEL WITH THEIR REVIEW. [01:15:04] YEAH, ASSUMING WE GET IT, BUT IT'S WORTHWHILE BECAUSE THE CEQA COMPONENT CAN TAKE UPWARDS OF A YEAR TO GET THROUGH ALL THE STUDIES. OKAY. AND I KNOW EARLIER ON, YOU AND I WERE TALKING, AND I'D ASKED ABOUT LIKE, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, LOBBY TO THE STATE TO EVALUATE SOONER. BUT THEN YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT THE BUDGET CYCLE AND ALL. DO YOU THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE, NO HOPE, NOT WORTH THE EFFORT. NO. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S TOO BAD THAT THEY'RE SO SLOW. ALL RIGHT. THE FUN FACTORY SAYS TWO PROMISING PROPOSALS. JUST TWO TOTAL, OR TWO PROMISING? JUST, IT SEEMS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING IF WE ONLY GOT TWO. NO. TOTAL. WE GOT TWO. BUT THEY'RE BOTH REALLY GOOD. YEAH. CAN'T GO INTO ANY MORE DETAIL THAN THAT, BUT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE BREAKWATER REPAIR PROJECT. YOU MENTIONED THE CORPS HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE YACHT CLUB ABOUT CITING SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT. DID THEY GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, LIKE, HOW MUCH AREA THEY NEED ON THE GROUND? AND THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT SHOULD GO, OR, JUST LEARNING HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO IMPACT EITHER THE YACHT CLUB OR WHEREVER IT'S GOING TO BE SITED. I DON'T KNOW SIZES OF THE STAGING AREAS YET, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU. YEAH, SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU KNEW BECAUSE THE CITY HAD A MEETING WITH THE YACHT CLUB AND THE CORPS. NO, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE DOCKS THAT THE KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB HAS OUT THERE. SO WE DIDN'T GET TO, LIKE, DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THE STAGING AREAS OR PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST YET. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND EVALUATE A FEW THINGS BEFORE THEY CAN KIND OF CONFIRM, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ABOUT LIKE HOW MUCH SPACES THEY WOULD TAKE UP IN SPACE. AND THEN DID THE BRICKS REPLACEMENT, THE BRICK ISSUE THAT WE HAD ON INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK, THAT'S ALL WE HAD, SOME THAT FAILED, AND THEN THEY REPLACED THEM. THAT'S ALL DONE NOW. THAT'S ALL DONE NOW. AND WE HAVE A STOCKPILE OF EXTRAS JUST IN CASE IT HAPPENS AGAIN. BUT YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAD, OR I GUESS, ARE WE ON THIS PART OF THE. WHAT SECTION ARE WE ON? TECHNICALLY, WE'RE STILL IN THE LIAISON. OKAY THEN, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR GREG? ALL RIGHT. ITEM M, COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS. [N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS] SO I HAD ONE ON THAT. SO JUST HAD HEARD FROM VOTERS OF ALL TYPES MOTORBOATS CANOES WHATEVER ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL. OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL OUT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED TO GO ON THEIR BOATS. AND FOR DECADES, I'M SURE WE'VE CLOSED DOWN, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF STREETS DURING THE RACE, BUT I GUESS I WANTED TO RELAY SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT PEOPLE HAD WITH THE REOPENING OF THE STREETS AND MAYBE JUST CHALLENGE, MAYBE WE COULD CHALLENGE PUBLIC WORKS NEXT YEAR AND GOING FORWARD TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW THEY REOPEN THE ROADS. SO, LIKE, I KNOW CATALINA WAS OPEN WAY BEFORE HARBOR DRIVE, EVEN THOUGH HARBOR DRIVE NORTH OF PEARL IS THE FIRST PART OF THE COURSE THAT IS EMPTY. SO IF THEY COULD HAVE A RUNNING OPENING, A GRADUAL OPENING THAT MIMICS THE RACE PATH, RIGHT? THEN WE COULD GAIN ACCESS, EVEN IF THEY'RE JUST OPENING ONE LANE TO LET BOATERS INTO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MARINAS THERE THAT COULD. I THINK THE RACE, THE LAST RACE STARTED AT 8:45. I WANT TO SAY SO YOU COULD PROBABLY GET ACCESS TO THOSE MARINAS MUCH, MUCH SOONER. SURE. IN A, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZED, GATED FASHION WITH THE, BECAUSE THERE WAS PEOPLE STAFFED AT THE END OF. YEAH. AT HARBOR AND 190TH, HARBOR AND HERONDO. SO WE COULD PROBABLY CHALLENGE THEM TO JUST. I THINK IT'S A GOOD CHALLENGE. I MEAN, TRYING TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHICH SECTION THIS BELONGS IN. ANY UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION OR ROAD CLOSURES? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. PUBLIC WORKS USUALLY DOES SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US, BUT NOTHING RECENT. OKAY, THANKS. GOT AN IDEA? THING IS DONE. YEAH. JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ON THE SEVENTH OF NEXT MONTH IS THE KITE FESTIVAL. OH, REMINDER, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO DOWN TO REDONDO BEACH AND CHECK IT OUT. IT'S PRETTY COOL. BRING THE FAMILY. YES. MARK HANSON IS ONLINE AS A PARTICIPANT, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS HAND RAISED. [01:20:08] DOES HE HAVE? OKAY, MARK, DO YOU WANT TO RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. HELLO, MARK. ALL RIGHT. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT, MARK. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANKS, EVERYBODY, FOR SHOWING UP. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE THINGS TO SIGN. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.