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          07:00 PM. I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER AT 415 DIAMOND STREET REDONDO BEACH IN THE
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          [A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER GOLD. 
          HERE. COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE. HERE. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ. 
          HERE. COMMISSIONER. PITZELE. HERE. COMMISSIONER TANER. 
          HERE. VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY. HERE. AND CHAIR O'BRIEN-HERRERA. 
          HERE. YOU NOT ONLY HAVE A QUORUM, YOU HAVE A FULL HOUSE. 
          OKAY, WE NOW SALUTE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. NEXT, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA. 
          [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA AS IS? COMMISSIONER PITZELE WILL MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER GOLD SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL MOVE ON TO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING? 
          [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
THERE ACTUALLY ARE. THEY DON'T, DON'T SHOW. THERE WAS A MINOR PUBLISHING GLITCH,
SO THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS WHICH OCCUR FOR ITEMS J.1 AND J.2 ARE ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL FIND THEM. 
          THEY'RE IN J.1 AND J.2. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE
FOLDER ITEMS? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. 
          DO I RECEIVE AND FILE? WE NEED TO RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          YES. AND IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER GOLD SECONDS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          AND SO, FOR THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. JACK, DO WE TALK ABOUT THOSE NOW? NO. 
          THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS WILL BE TALKED ABOUT WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE ITEMS IN J.1 AND J.2. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT FOLDER. 
          [F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
BUSINESS ITEMS EXCEPT FOR THOSE FORMALLY NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION ARE
ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED,
DISCUSSED, AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER
THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW. 
          THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING
ORAL COMMUNICATION. 
          ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR PUBLIC THAT WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS FOR FURTHER
DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE WILL APPROVE ALL CONSENT ITEMS IN ONE MOTION. 
          DOES ANYONE WANT ANYTHING? OKAY. IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? ONLINE COMMENT. THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS OR ZOOM ATTENDEES. 
          OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS IS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU,
COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY FOR SECONDING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, SO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. 
          [H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC MEMBERS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY
SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. 
          THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO
ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. 
          COMMISSIONERS, JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS NO DISCUSSION DURING THIS PORTION OF THE
MEETING. YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, BUT TO NOT ENGAGE IN DIALOG. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ACTUALLY WRITTEN ONES GO FIRST. OH, DO WE HAVE ANY WRITTEN? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A LETTER THAT HAS BEEN SENT FROM OUR REDONDO BALLET
COMPANY, AND THERE IS A ATTACHMENTS THAT SHOW WHAT THEY ARE ASKING. 
          AND ALSO THE THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY HOPE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE. 
          AND THEY ARE ASKING IF THE COMMISSION WILL AGENDIZE THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR A FULL
DISCUSSION. 
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AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT IN YOUR ITEM K,
WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A REQUEST TO AGENDIZE THINGS. 
          OKAY. SO YOU JUST NEED TO RECEIVE AND FILE AT THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE EMAIL FROM ANNE JACOBY? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TANER. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          AND NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? GENERAL? YES. YES. COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT QUICKLY ON OUR TEACHING. 
          I HAVE. THAT'S NOT ON. I HAVE TWO BRIEF CONCERNS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN WHICH CHAMBER MEETING,
BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT ARTESIA WHERE SOMEBODY SAID PERHAPS A COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN IN THEIR LITTLE MEETINGS UPDATE PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          AND I'LL EXPRESS THE UPDATE ON THIS SUBJECT WAS THREE SECONDS LONG. 
          MEETING CLOSED. GOODBYE. AND I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND WITH QUESTIONS. 
          TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE THERE DID. MEETING WAS CLOSED. 
          GOODBYE. IT WAS RATHER SAD, BUT ARTESIA, THE ART AND SO ON. 
          I'M COMPETITIVE AS WELL. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS,
FROM PLANNING TO DINING. 
          ETCETERA. ET CETERA. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY. 
          NUMBER ONE, I'VE BEEN IN VERY BAD ACCIDENTS WHERE A VEHICLE DISTRACTED HAS IMPACTED ME. 
          T-BONED ME SIX INCHES FROM MY HEAD. I HAVE NO DAMAGES,
ETC.. 
          BUT I'M LUCKY TO BE HERE BECAUSE A CAR FLEW OVER THREE LANES AND A LEFT TURN MEDIAN,
THANK GOODNESS NOBODY WAS TURNING LEFT. 
          I WANT TO EXPRESS ANOTHER THING SAFETY AND THIS CAN BE PASSED AROUND. 
          WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY AND OTHER THINGS. IN THE LAST YEAR I'VE HAD MULTIPLE CARS DAMAGED ON
THE STREET OVER ON VANDERBILT. 
          I'M RIGHT OVER BY THE DANCE STUDIO WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS COMING AND GOING. 
          IT'S, I PARK 4 OR 5 BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD. YOU CAN SEE THIS IF YOU WANT. 
          TAKES A LOT OF INK TO PRINT. THIS IS GETTING HIT BY AN E-BIKE. 
          Y'ALL KNOW WHERE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THIS OR NOT. 
          PASS IT AROUND. YOU KNOW WHERE STARBUCKS IS? AS THEY COME FLYING OUT OF THERE,
COME AROUND THE CORNER. 
          DON'T LOOK, ETC.. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MY SAFETY. 
          IF IT GETS TOO CRAZY, I GOT TO MOVE OUT OF THE CITY I'VE BEEN IN FOR 30 SOME YEARS. 
          MY PRIMARY COMMENT, THOUGH IS I'M AGAINST LGPT,
WHATEVER IT IS, THE CITY STANDING BEHIND THAT AND PUTTING THAT IN OUR FACES. IT'S NEVER HAPPENED IN THIS CITY BEFORE. 
          I HOPE IT GOES AWAY. I'M NOT AGAINST STATUES AND ARTWORK,
I SUPPORT IT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A SECOND WE NEED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 
          ANY CLARIFYING? WHAT WAS HIS NAME? YEAH. EXCUSE ME,
SIR. 
          I'M ALLOWED TO ASK SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AND YOUR NAME AGAIN? STEVE. HEY. HEY,
STEVE. 
          HEY HEY HEY HEY. I'M SORRY I GOT YOU. AS FAR AS YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE LGBTQ. ABSOLUTELY. 
          WOULD IS, IF PRESENTED PROPERLY, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AN ART PIECE THAT IS OBSCURE OR A LITTLE MORE. 
          I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND MY POSITION,
AND I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE, AND I CAN GIVE YOU DATA NUMBERS ON HOW PEOPLE FEEL, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A SECOND YOU HAVE THEM. I VOLUNTEER FOR MANY THINGS AS YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD BE BEHIND A 
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LIFESTYLE AND I DON'T CARE. I DON'T CARE WHAT RACE PEOPLE ARE. 
          I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO. I'M SO FLEXIBLE AND I'VE RUN COMPANIES FOR 35 YEARS,
TRAVELED THE COUNTRY MANY TIMES OVER. 
          ALL THE SAMPLES THAT I SEE ON PICTURES DO NOT HAVE A THOROUGHFARE. 
          ARTESIA, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES. AND I'LL WALK WITH SOMEBODY. 
          I'LL BIKE WITH THEM. I HAVE A SHOW CAR. I'LL DRIVE YOU. 
          I'LL PICK YOU UP. I'LL BUY YOU LUNCH, BREAKFAST,
COFFEE. 
          I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN. 
          IT'S GETTING MORE DANGEROUS. YOU COMPOUND IT WITH THE DRIVERS,
THE AMAZONS AND ALL THAT. 
          I'VE ALMOST BEEN KILLED WALKING MY DOG ACROSS THE STREET MANY TIMES OVER. 
          MY POSITION THOUGH. BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. 
          I DO NOT BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH SHOULD BE TAKING POSITIONS AND
PUTTING IT IN OUR FACES. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A WRONG THING TO DO. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION. AS FAR AS THE SAFETY. YEAH,
I'M WITHIN ROUNDS. 
          I GOT THIS AS FAR AS YOUR SAFETY CONCERNS IS,
I'M WONDERING AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY CONCERNS, AS FAR AS DISTRACTIONS ON THE ART PORTION OF THINGS. 
          WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING OR. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS THAT. 
          THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE. BUT I WANT THE ART AS WELL. 
          SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED FOR LABASSE AND THEY THEY DO HAVE THAT. 
          WHO'S OUR CONSULTANT? THEY DO HAVE SAFETY IN MIND. 
          AND EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA AS WELL. I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND LISTEN TO THEM. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO. I'M NOT EVEN FINISHED. MY QUESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE I LIVE IN DISTRICT
FOUR. 
          I'M WONDERING IF THE SAFETY ASPECT IS A COUNCIL MEETING AS FAR AS SPEED LIMIT,
BECAUSE I DRIVE DOWN ARTESIA AND I FEEL LIKE THE SPEED LIMITS, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD JUST WONDER IF THAT'S MORE OF AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION TO AS
FAR AS SPEED. 
          SPEED. I DON'T THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MOTORCYCLE COPS THAT FREQUENT CHEVRON
AND AROUND THERE. 
          I KNOW OF THEM SOME I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A CRAZY SPEED THING,
BUT I THINK ANYWHERE IN THE SOUTH BAY, ACTUALLY ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, WHEN YOU GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND WITHIN 15 MINUTES
TYPICALLY AND SOMEBODY WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S CALIFORNIA. I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN EVERY CITY,
INCLUDING SOUTHERN. 
          NORTHERN WITHIN 15 MINUTES. LOOK FOR THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO RUIN YOUR DAY. 
          AND I FEEL THAT'S COMMON SO MANY PLACES, WHETHER IT'S BY GOING IN FRONT OF YOU,
YOUR LIGHTS CHANGED. 
          IT HAPPENS IN FIRE DEPARTMENTS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A SPEED RELATED. 
          MY ACCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY A DISTRACTION. OKAY. 
          AND YOU CAN TELL. JUST LOOK OVER. YOU SEE HIM ON THE CELL PHONE,
AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME ARTWORK. 
          THAT'S COOL. AND THE KID SAYS SOMETHING. IT'S THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THESE,
BUT ARE THEY? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
SIR? YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ALWAYS AVAILABLE ANYTIME. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION,
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PARTICULAR SECTION DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'S NOT AGENDIZED. THESE ARE FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS A PLACE WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN COME UP AND DELIVER THEIR COMMENTS SO THAT
YOU HEAR THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS THEM. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEN WE COULD DISCUSS ALL NIGHT LONG. 
          YEAH, I TRIED TO MAKE SURE I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS. 
          I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TO DO A CLARIFICATION,
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF IT BECOMES A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, WE'RE KIND OF VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT FOR YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IN ADVANCE WHAT YOU'RE
GOING TO DISCUSS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. JACK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? YEAH. PAUL MOSES, DISTRICT TWO. I'D JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE WHAT HE JUST SAID. 
          YOU GUYS ALL WATCH THE VIDEO ON THE BROWN ACT. YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT. YOU CAN'T
GET INTO THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          IT'S FINE. THEY'RE NOT EXPERTS. THEY HAVE OPINIONS. 
          BUT IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO NOT GET INTO THIS BACK AND FORTH. 
          IT'S THERE. ENOUGH. THANK YOU. I GOTTA CLARIFY QUESTION. 
          CAN I ASK? YEAH. IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. 
          SURE. WHY NOT? DID YOU FEEL THAT I WAS DOING THAT? YEAH. OKAY. I FOLLOW THE STUFF ALL THE TIME. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? 
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DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE OR ZOOM COMMENTS? THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS OR NO ATTENDEES ON ZOOM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM A PREVIOUS AGENDA? NO. 
          CAN WE RECEIVE AND FILE THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION LIAISONS REPORT? 
          [J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
AND I GUESS I'M UP FOR THE THE LIAISON REPORT,
BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO PULL OUT PERMANENTLY OUT OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER AND DISCUSS THE THE JOHN PARSONS ART FUND
IN PARTICULAR. 
          SO THERE IS AN UPDATE HERE. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO YOU'LL SEE ONE THAT'S LABELED ON THE
AGENDA AS FINAL. 
          THE REASON FOR THAT IS TODAY I WAS GIVEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM FINANCIAL SERVICES
THAT THERE WAS MORE DEPOSITS FROM DEVELOPERS THAN WERE SHOWING UP IN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM YET. THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME UPDATES TO IT. 
          SO THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL $40,000 THAT HAD NOT SHOWN UP. 
          THAT IS, ON MY FINAL ONE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S ABOUT $69,042.76
AVAILABLE, UNENCUMBERED. WHAT I HAD TO REMOVE WAS QUITE A BIT MORE MONEY FROM THAT BECAUSE I WAS IT
WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SPEND IT ON A PROJECT, YOU CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. 
          IT DOES NOT GO BACK IMMEDIATELY TO JOHN PARSONS ART FUND BECAUSE IT IS IT IS A BUDGET ITEM
AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          THAT IS WHEN IT CAN BE RETURNED TO THE TO THE FUND AND IT IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. 
          THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE A UNUSUAL BUDGET RESOLUTION ACT. 
          YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A SPECIAL REQUEST TO PUT THE MONEY BACK EARLY SO IT BECOMES AN
ALTERATION OF THE BUDGET. 
          SO THE MONEY FOR SEA CHATTER AND THE MONEY FOR THE MURAL SKATE WAVES,
BOTH OF WHICH CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. 
          THAT MONEY WON'T BE RETURNED UNTIL THE END OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO JULY 1ST. THAT MONEY WILL SHOW BACK UP AS AVAILABLE TO YOU,
AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING IF WE DID ANY OTHER CHANGES. 
          IF WE TRIED TO RETURN MONEY FROM TRANSIT CENTER OR ANYWHERE ELSE. 
          AGAIN, THEY PREFER TO DO THAT AT BUDGET TIME. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN WE MAKE THE REQUEST TO MOVE MONEY. 
          IF WE DO IT EARLIER IN THE YEAR, THERE'S SIMPLY GOING TO PASS IT UNLESS THEY FIND THAT
THERE'S AN EMERGENCY NEED FOR THE MONEY. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT I HAVE DOWN HERE IN THE REPORT ON THIS THIS
PARTICULAR MEETING? THANK YOU FOR THAT, JACK. OKAY. AND THE OTHER PART OF MY LIAISON REPORT WOULD BE THE LIST
OF POSSIBLE ITEMS OF INTEREST AROUND TOWN. I DECIDED TO CARRY IT A LITTLE FURTHER AND TOOK IT INTO THE
AREA, VARIOUS ART SHOWS, VARIOUS EXHIBITS. THE CURRENT PRODUCTION OF REDONDO BALLETS,
SNOW QUEEN, WHICH IS HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND AT REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A ITEM THERE UNDER REDONDO BEACH,
WHICH IS COMING UP AND IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S THE CITY'S ANNUAL STRATEGIC, ACTUALLY. IT'S TWICE THEY DO IT IN THE FALL AND THEY DO
IT IN THE SPRING. 
          THEY SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS THAT IS GOING TO
OCCUR ON MARCH 31ST. 
          AND WE WERE ASKED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND I WILL PUT OUT AN EMAIL REMINDER THAT ON THE MARCH 25TH MEETING,
IF YOU HAVE INPUT, IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO SPEAK UP. 
          AND THEN I WOULD TAKE YOUR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT AT
THEIR MEETING ON THE 31ST, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS AT THE LIBRARY AT 2 P.M. 
          ON MARCH 31ST. IT WILL. AND THAT'S ON THE THE LIST I GAVE YOU. 
          IT WILL, FOR ANY OVERFLOW IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM,
THEY WILL OPEN UP THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND STREAM IT AS WELL. 
          SO YOU CAN WATCH, IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW THE SAUSAGES ARE MADE. 
          THIS IS THE TIME. BUT PLEASE BE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT. 
          THESE ARE OBJECTIVE ITEMS. THESE ARE NOT PROJECT ITEMS. I WILL SEND YOU A COPY OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN MATRIX. 
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YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE OTHER ONES LOOK LIKE. THE OTHER ITEMS ON IT GIVE YOU A SORT OF AN
IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND THESE ARE THREE YEAR PLANS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT,
I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THEM ANY TIME. 
          THANK YOU. AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN DISCUSSION. 
          WILL THAT BE ON OUR AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING? I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. I DIDN'T GO TO THE ACTUAL EVENT. I'M SORRY. 
          I'M NOT QUITE HEARING YOU. HOLD IT. JUST PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT. 
          HOLD IT FOR A BIT. THERE WE GO. THANKS. I REMEMBER THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE
SOME SOME MONTHS AGO. 
          THEY DIDN'T FALL. AND THEY DO IT IN THESE IN THE SPRING. 
          OKAY, SO THERE WAS ONE, I THINK, IN SEPTEMBER. 
          I RECALL THAT WE ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,
TO THE COUNCIL. 
          DID ANYTHING COME OUT OF THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE DID THAT FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          I THINK WE ENDED UP DOING THAT FOR THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          OKAY. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT WE ALSO DID IT FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          COULD VERY WELL BE RIGHT. OKAY. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN FORMALIZE,
LIKE THE THE OUTCOME OF OUR INPUT, WHETHER THAT GOES INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR NOT. 
          I MEAN, AT LEAST FOR THE FOR OUR NEXT DISCUSSION,
CAN WE YOU KNOW, CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD SUGGESTED TO THEM AND WHETHER THAT WAS ACCEPTED OR NOT? SO I WILL FIND OUT THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO YOUR RESULTS OF YOUR OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I'LL ASK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S DONE,
BUT I WILL FIND OUT AND I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          IN THE MEANTIME, I GUESS WE JUST GO FORWARD TILL I HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. OKAY,
GREAT. 
          UNLESS YOU HAVE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WITH REGARDING THAT,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE THE, WE WERE QUESTIONING THAT ONE PART ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS FOR LILIENTHAL PARK FROM, AND WE NEVER REALLY GOT ANY. 
          THEY HAVE NOT THEY DID NOT ADDRESS IT. YEAH. YEAH. 
          OKAY. AT THE LAST, THE LAST TIME THAT THEY DISCUSSED BUDGET ON THE SUBJECT,
THEY STUCK ONLY TO THE LGBTQ ITEM. 
          AND THEY DID NOT THEY DID NOT DISCUSS THE LILIENTHAL MOVEMENT. 
          AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING $75,000 FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. 
          AND AS I'VE JUST EXPLAINED, WE CAN ONLY DO THAT REALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          END OF THE YEAR? YEAH. SO THAT 75,000 WASN'T ACTUALLY AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. 
          THAT'S GOOD. MAYBE IT GIVES EVERYBODY SOME CLARIFICATION TO THAT. DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, YEAH. BUT ONE MONTH LATER WHEN WE HIT APRIL WE'LL BE ASKED FOR OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER AND RIGHT TIME TO MAKE THOSE REQUESTS. 
          OKAY. AND IF I MAY CONTINUE, I FIND THIS VERY USEFUL. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS GREAT. I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE DOING THIS EITHER THROUGH
YOUR OFFICE OR MAYBE EVEN AMONG OURSELVES. 
          WE ESTABLISH A PROCEDURE. SINCE THIS IS THE TIME,
LET ME JUST ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          THE CITY OF MANHATTAN BEACH. EXHIBITION AT THE ART CENTER. 
          ARE YOU SEEING WHAT I'M SEEING? I WAS THERE AT THE OPENING. 
          IT'S A FANTASTIC EXHIBITION. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT PLEASE,
JUST. 
          I THINK IT'S STILL OPEN. IT'S INCREDIBLY PROFESSIONALLY DONE. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DURING THE OPENING,
I SPOKE WITH ERIC BRINKMANN. 
          DO YOU KNOW HIM? NO. HE'S THE CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER FOR MANHATTAN BEACH. 
          HE'S ON MY LIST. HE'S, EXACTLY, HE'S AN ARTIST. 
          AND HE'S BEEN THERE ON VARIOUS LEVELS OF THE CULTURAL ARTS JOURNEY. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO BE TOO LONG, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          FOR THE PAST, LIKE 6 OR 7 YEARS. SO I'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE THEN. 
          HE HAS EXPRESSED A SINCERE INTEREST IN MEETING YOU AND ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO WAYS OF
COOPERATING, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TWO VERY COMPLEMENTING THINGS. 
          WE HAVE A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, AND THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL,
VISUAL ARTS CENTER, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL GET OUR ART CENTER IN THE, YOU KNOW. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THERE ARE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SYNERGY. 
          SO IF YOU WANT, I CAN DO THE INTRODUCTION BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. 
          I WOULD LOVE THAT. THIS IS SOMEBODY I WOULD LIKE TO MEET. 
          EVEN INTEREST EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN YOU KNOW,
COMING HERE AND TELLING US ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING AT MANHATTAN BEACH, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR ART STUDIO, CERAMICS STUDIO,
THE ART CENTER, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVENTUALLY WE CAN JUST DO IT WITH HERMOSA BEACH,
TOO. 
          BUT I THINK DOING IT WITH MANHATTAN BEACH WOULD BE A VERY,
VERY GOOD START. 
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SO I AGREE ONE THING AND ON THIS ITEM ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TOWN THERE ARE FOR THE
HIGHER LEVEL OF ART, THERE ARE TWO VERY IMPORTANT THINGS HAPPENING IN LOS ANGELES RIGHT NOW. 
          ONE OF THEM IS I JUST CAME FROM THERE. IT'S THE FELIX ART FAIR. 
          IT'S HAPPENING AT THE ROOSEVELT HOTEL AND AT THE,
IN HOLLYWOOD. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, PROBABLY IS. TOMORROW IS THE OPENING OF THE FRIEZE ART FAIR,
WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ART FAIR THAT IN L.A.. 
          I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR SEVENTH EDITION. 
          BOTH FAIRS CONTINUE UNTIL SUNDAY. IF YOU HAVE SOME TIME. 
          I MEAN, THEY ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT CHEAP,
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          I THINK IT'S THIS THING COSTS $75, BUT BUT THEY ARE ESPECIALLY THE FRIEZE ART FAIR IS THE THE TOP LEVEL OF ART EVENT OR VISUAL ARTS EVENT IN LOS ANGELES. 
          IT'S A GLOBAL ART FAIR. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT,
AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA OR SO, ABOUT 200 GALLERIES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. THEY COME AND THEY DISPLAY THEIR ART. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ADD THOSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. WOULD LOVE THAT. 
          YOU WOULD CONTINUE DISCOVERING THESE THINGS AND BRINGING THEM TO THE COMMISSION,
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THE ENTIRE COUNTY AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO. 
          SO I'M GOING TO BE LIMITING MINE TO PROBABLY THE NEIGHBORING CITIES. OKAY. WELL,
I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL, SO I'LL SEND YOU NOTES AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE WILL JUST ADD THEM. 
          YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. JACK, YOU WANT TO RECEIVE AND FILE? IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OUR CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION LIAISON REPORT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU,
COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY FOR MOTIONING. 
          AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TANER, FOR SECONDING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE REPORT BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY
AND PROMOTE PUBLIC ART OPTIONS ON THE ESPLANADE. 
          JACK. JACK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE US FOR US? YEAH. HANG ON A SECOND HERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          THERE WE GO. ONE MOMENT. THAT ONE IS NOT READING WELL,
I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ADOBE, WHICH I THINK READS BETTER. 
          HERE WE GO. THAT'S CLEAN. SO THIS WOULD BE THE THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REPORT BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ESPLANADE ART. 
          AND I BELIEVE THE THAT VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY HAS SOME THINGS TO SAY,
AND I HAVE THE VIDEO WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SAY SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SLIDE. OKAY. SO IT'S THE THE SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH IS ORHAN TANER AND MYSELF. 
          AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT WORK THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR
POSSIBLE PUBLIC ART AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE FOR THE ESPLANADE. SO, YES, ART ALONG THE ESPLANADE. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO THE BENEFITS OF PUBLIC ART MOSAICS AND SCULPTURES,
ENHANCES PUBLIC SPACE AND IDENTITY. 
          MOSAICS AND SCULPTURES CREATE VISUAL INTEREST,
TRANSFORM, TRANSFORM OPEN WALKWAYS INTO CULTURAL LANDMARKS, AND GIVE THE ESPLANADE A UNIQUE CHARACTER THAT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY'S IDENTITY. 
          IT ENCOURAGES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. PUBLIC ART INVITES INTERACTION,
CONVERSATION AND SHARED EXPERIENCES, MAKING THE ESPLANADE A GATHERING PLACE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. 
          IT ALSO BOOSTS TOURISM AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. 
          EYE CATCHING MOSAICS AND SCULPTURES ATTRACT VISITORS,
INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC AND CAN REALLY SUPPORT NEARBY BUSINESSES SUCH AS CAFES, SHOPS AND LOCAL VENDORS THAT WE ALL KNOW IS FULL IN THE VILLAGE. 
          WAYFINDING AND SPACE DEFINITION. SCULPTURES CAN ACT AS LANDMARKS ALONG A LONG WALKWAY
HELPING PEOPLE ORIENT THEMSELVES. 
          MOSAICS ON THE GROUND OR WALL CAN SUBTLY GUIDE MOVEMENT OR DEFINE ZONES ALONG THE
ESPLANADE. 
          SO ALONG OUR AMAZING ESPLANADE, THERE ARE, I THINK LIKE TEN PLUS,
DON'T QUOTE ME, LOVELY 
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STAIRWAYS, WHATEVER YOU'RE UP FOR, FOR THE DAY,
BEING AT WALKING DOWN OR TAKING THE STAIRS. 
          BUT THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DIRECTION IN THE BEGINNING OF THESE STAIRWAYS. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. AND IT SHOWS THAT NEXT. 
          SCULPTURE IN A ROUNDABOUT, PLACING A SCULPTURE IN A SMALL ROUNDABOUT BY THE BEACH WORKS
WELL, BECAUSE THE ROUNDABOUT NATURALLY DRAWS ATTENTION,
MAKING THE SCULPTURE A STRIKING FOCAL POINT THAT ENHANCES THE AREA'S ESTHETICS WHILE ALSO HELPING GUIDE TRAFFIC SAFELY. SO IT'S A GREAT AREA WHEN YOU LEAVE,
COMING THROUGH AS WE ENTER UPON THE ESPLANADE. NEXT. MOSAIC BOLLARDS. MOSAIC ARTIST DEBBIE COLETTE AND PATTY LINETT. 
          THESE ARE LOCATED ON AVENUE A, C, F I AND VISTA DEL MAR. 
          THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND DEFINITELY EYE CATCHING. 
          THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE ARTISTS THAT HAD ALREADY,
DONE THEIR AMAZING MOSAICS IN 2014. 
          THERE'S EMPTY SIDES ON THE ON THE SIDES OF THEM,
SO LEFT AND RIGHT, THE FRONT FACING AND BACK FACING ARE FINISHED. 
          SO THESE ARE DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN ALSO AS YOU WALK WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU'RE
GOING TO MAKE THESE COMPLETE AS FOR THE BOLLARDS ALONG THE ESPLANADE. NEXT. 
          CURRENT ASK ABOUT THIS AS WE GO ALONG. IS IT OKAY TO ASK QUESTIONS OR WOULD YOU WAIT TILL
THE END? LET'S WAIT TILL THE END JUST SO I CAN. 
          AND THEN THAT WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK. IS THAT. IS THAT OKAY? CURRENT MOSAIC PUT POTENTIAL
TO ADD MORE MOSAICS AND SCULPTURES IN FRONT OF DESIGNATED RAMPS AND STAIRWAYS LEADING TO THE BEACH. THIS IS DOWN BEFORE YOU GO TO MIRAMAR PARK. 
          SO THIS IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD APPLY MOSAICS ON THE,
ON THE GROUND TO NEXT. 
          OKAY. THESE ARE GOING TO BE EXAMPLES OF PUBLIC ARTWORK. SO THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF
OTHER ARTWORKS THAT ARE IN VARIOUS AREAS THROUGHOUT THE STATES, ACTUALLY, AND ARGENTINA. THIS IS IN ARGENTINA. 
          SO BEAUTIFUL BRONZE SCULPTURE. SO THESE ARE JUST IDEAS FOR ALL OF US,
THE PUBLIC TO, TO GAIN FOR HOPEFULLY INVITING IDEAS FOR WHEN ARTISTS ARE GOING TO BE CALLED FOR AN RFQ. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO COMMENT ON THESE OR SHOULD I JUST SCROLL THROUGH THEM? I SAY JUST GO
THROUGH THEM. JUST THIS IS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO GET IDEAS OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL CAN BE FOR THE ESPLANADE. YEAH, THESE ARE ACTUALLY LITTLE STINGRAYS. 
          SO THESE ARE MOSAICS. METAL. THAT'S A TREE. OH I GOT ONE. 
          THIS THIS, A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE OPEN SPACE. 
          RIGHT. BUT ALSO SOME OF THESE CAN COLLABORATE WITH THE WILDLIFE TOO. 
          SO BIRDS, DIFFERENT SPECIES OF PLANTS THAT ARE THERE TOO,
AND SO FORTH. 
          OH THAT'S COOL. MICHAEL, OUR DOLPHINS. AND THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. 
          IN CONCLUSION AND FORWARD VISION FOR REDONDO BEACH ESPLANADE AND PUBLIC ART,
CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AND COLLABORATION THROUGH THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO ADVANCE CLEAR, UNIFIED PUBLIC ART STRATEGY FOR THE REDONDO BEACH ESPLANADE,
SEEK FORMAL APPROVAL FROM THE REDONDO BEACH MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO INVITE ORIGINAL ARTISTS TO RETURN AND COMPLETE THE ORIGINAL MOSAIC BOLLARDS AS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED WITH
DEBBIE COLETTE AND PATTY LINETT, WHO ORIGINALLY DID THOSE IN 2014, HONOR ARTISTIC INTEGRITY WHILE ENSURING STRUCTURE
DURABILITY APPROPRIATE FOR A COASTAL MARINE ENVIRONMENT. 
          IMPLEMENT A STRUCTURAL ARTIST SELECTION PROCESS. 
          ISSUE AN RFQ TO IDENTIFY QUALIFIED ARTISTS WITH EXPERTISE IN MOSAIC AND OR SCULPTURE. 
          FOLLOW WITH AN RFP FOR SHORTLISTED ARTISTS TO SUBMIT DETAILED DESIGN PROPOSALS,
MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS, FABRICATION PLANS AND CORROSION PREVENTION STRATEGIES. 
          PROVIDE PRIOR, PRIORITIZE ARTISTS WITH ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF TESSERAET,
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MATERIALS THAT ARE USED IN MOSAICS, BE IT GLASS, CERAMIC AND SO FORTH AND LARGE SCALE MOSAIC INSTALLATION,
PROVEN EXPERIENCE WITH MARINE GRADE ALLOY FABRICATION, DEMONSTRATED UNDERSTANDING OF GALVANIC CORROSION PREVENTION IN COASTAL SETTINGS. 
          ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, QUALITY, AND LONGEVITY IN ALL FUTURE PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS. 
          A CLEAR PATH FORWARD ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE, COASTAL DURABILITY AND THOUGHTFUL STEWARDSHIP. 
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STEWARDSHIP OF THE ESPLANADE PUBLIC ART LEGACY. 
          AND SO WE HOPE TO CONTINUE WITH THIS. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU AND HOPE TO HAVE EVERYBODY MAYBE TO. 
          OKAY. YEAH. MOVING FORWARD FOR AN RFQ. YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. SO CAN WE DISCUSS? YES, YES. THE MOSAIC PIECES THAT THAT. 
          HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT GETTING THOSE LADIES BACK? DO WE HAVE TO PUT OUT ANOTHER. HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO WE CONTINUE? CAN WE CONTINUE? I'M NOT SURE,
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN US INVITE BACK A PREVIOUS ARTISTS, BUT I IMAGINE IT COULD BE DONE AS AN EXTENSION OF WHAT THEY ALREADY DID,
PERHAPS EVEN AS AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR CONTRACT. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES TO FIND OUT
WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR THAT. 
          COOL. I'M IN FOR, I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING THEM BACK. 
          CAN I ASK TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOLLARDS? OF COURSE. 
          DO THEY NEED TO HAVE THE OTHER SIDES? WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THESE,
WAS IT WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING ALL FOUR SIDES MOSAIC? I BELIEVE SO IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THEM,
THEY'RE IT'S THEY'RE NOT THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL BUT THEY'RE NOT COMPLETE. 
          THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. I MEAN, THERE IS POTENTIAL ON THE TOPS OF THEM,
POSSIBLY TO HAVE LIKE, DIFFERENT ARTISTS TO COLLABORATE, YOU KNOW TO BE IN COHESIVE WITH THEM. 
          BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME STRUCTURE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE BOLLARDS WITH THE SELF. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE CAN MAYBE JUMPSTART WITH IT,
WITH FINISHING THE OUTSIDE AND THEN HOPEFULLY GO INTO THAT, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. MAY I ASK, WHY WEREN'T THEY COMPLETED THEN? I'M ASSUMING IT WAS PROBABLY WHAT A LOT OF CITIES GO THROUGH IS,
IS FUNDING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF COST? NOT YET UNTIL WE SPEAK WITH. WE KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS TEN YEARS AGO,
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY. 
          BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT VIOLENTLY HIGHER BECAUSE THE THE INSTALLATION WAS FAIRLY
INEXPENSIVE. 
          THEY ARE, THEY WERE BUILT ON PANELS IN THEIR STUDIOS AND ALL INSTALLED,
ALL OF THEM INSTALLED IN A DAY. 
          AND JACK, DO WE KNOW THE COST OF WHAT IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO? YEAH. THE ENTIRE, WELL, I KNOW WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS. 
          THE CONTRACT WAS FOR TEN BOLLARDS WITH TWO PANELS PER WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE A TOTAL OF 20. 
          THAT WAS $6,000 TOTAL. OKAY. HOWEVER, THAT WAS A UNIQUE ARRANGEMENT,
A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          SO THEY MAY HAVE SEEN MAY HAVE OBTAINED DONATIONS ELSEWHERE. 
          WHAT'S MORE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONTRACT THAT TELLS YOU HOW THE REMAINDER CAME TO BE. 
          THERE ARE NOT TEN, THERE ARE 22, AND I HAVE NO RECORD OF THE REMAINDER OF THOSE ACTUALLY
SHOWING UP. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT MUST HAVE HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THAT CONTRACT PHASE. 
          IT WAS 6000 FOR TEN. IT WAS 6000 FOR TEN. TWO PANELS A PIECE. 
          YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT WAS IN 2014. 14. OKAY. 
          CAN I JUST ADD A FEW THOUGHTS ON THE THING? SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ESPLANADE,
I MEAN, THE FIRST THING WHICH STRIKES US WAS THE IT IT'S A UNIFORM STRUCTURE, VERY, VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND VERY WELL DONE WITH ITS BENCHES AND EVERYTHING. 
          IT IS A CONTINUITY. IT WAS FINISHED RELATIVELY RECENTLY,
IN 2011, SO NOTHING IS REALLY FALLING APART OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THERE IS AN ART ELEMENT WHICH ALREADY WAS BUILT INTO,
AS WE DISCUSSED. 
          SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT BASICALLY ENHANCE THAT EXISTING ART ELEMENTS,
WHICH IS BASICALLY THE MOSAICS. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, THE BOLLARDS CAN BE ALSO USED FOR A CONTEMPORARY ARTIST WHO WORKS WITH
MEDIUM OTHER THAN MOSAICS, AND MAYBE THEY CAN DO A LITTLE COLOR THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING WITH THE EXISTING MEDIUM WAS OUR FIRST PRIORITY. 
          IN TERMS OF THE THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH IS SITS AT THE PRETTY MUCH THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE
ESPLANADE THAT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH ARTESIA, LIKE AN ENTRY POINT. 
          AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ROUNDABOUT. AND THE NICE THING ABOUT ROUNDABOUT,
BECAUSE IN THE PARK, 
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LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THAT PARK,
BUT THERE ARE TWO EXISTING STATUES, BUT THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF. 
          MIRAMAR PARK. MIRAMAR PARK. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO THE KIDS CLIMB ON IT AND YOU KNOW,
THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS NICE. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S A THEY BECAME LIKE PRETTY MUCH LIKE A PLAYGROUND TYPE OF
ARTWORKS. 
          BUT THIS ONE BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROUNDABOUT IS NOT REACHABLE,
BUT IT'S VISUALLY IN A VERY STRIKING PLACE. AND ALSO YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF DOING THE,
THE ENTRY POINT OVER THERE. IN TERMS OF OTHER LOCATIONS. WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS,
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE LIKE THE COASTAL COMMISSION ISSUES AND OTHER TYPE OF COUNTY ISSUES. AS LONG AS YOU GET OUT OF THE THE BORDERS OF THE
ESPLANADE, YOU MAY RUN INTO OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF INSTALLING ARTWORK OVER THERE. 
          SO WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH THE BOLLARDS AND ESPECIALLY MAYBE LITTLE SMALL
STATUES, URBAN STATUES ON TOP OF SELECTED BOLLARDS. THE BOLLARDS ARE INTERESTING ENOUGH. 
          THEY ARE NOT REACHABLE AS WELL. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T REALLY GO AND SIT ONE OF THEM. 
          THEY ARE HIDDEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A LANDSCAPE AREA,
WHICH ARE IT'S A FANTASTIC ENVIRONMENT FOR ART, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO OUR THESE WERE OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE ARE PRESENTING IT TO THE FULL COMMISSION RIGHT NOW,
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY. SORRY. NOT TOO LONG. 
          IN THE PAST, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE ALSO TAKE THIS PROJECT AND PUT IT INTO THE SAME
ARTIST POOL AS THE ARTESIA, AND WE BASICALLY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO WANTED TO YOU KNOW,
FIND ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF EITHER ACCESSING DIFFERENT TALENT POOLS, SUCH AS EXISTING ARTISTS OR THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVEN'T FINISHED THE THING, OR EVEN MAYBE GO OUT AND DO OUTRIGHT PURCHASES OF ART. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT SO SURE WHETHER WE ARE OBLIGED TO DO AN REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS
PROCESS EACH TIME THAT THIS COMMISSION SEEKS TO PURCHASE FINE ART. NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT MANDATORY AT ALL. 
          IT'S JUST A WAY TO GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ART AND AND ARTISTS INTO A POOL THAT
YOU CAN REVIEW IN ONE SESSION. 
          SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED IN TERMS OF THE, THE ROUNDABOUT IDEA THAT WE DEVELOPED. 
          AT THE BEGINNING OF AVENUE A. SO THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO LIKE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN I MEAN THERE ARE FANTASTIC SCULPTURE ARTISTS OUT THERE AND THEY
HAVE WORKS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CALDERESCO OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. 
          AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. SO THERE MUST BE ANOTHER WAY OF ACTUALLY FOR US
OR FOR YOU EITHER OR MAYBE A PROCESS WHICH INVOLVES THE COMMUNITY TO SHOP FOR EXISTING ART WHICH IS FOR SALE,
PURCHASE IT AND HAVE IT INSTALLED THERE. 
          SO THAT WAS THE IDEA. I'D HAVE TO REVIEW THE THE ORDINANCE TO SEE IF IT ALLOWS THAT TO BE
DONE OR IF IT RESTRICTS IT STRICTLY TO NEW WORKS. 
          BUT I WILL DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST LIKE A THOUGHT WE HAD THE GALLERY COME IN
LIKE A FEW MONTHS BACK, AND THEY HAD THE ARTIST ANDY SCOTT, WHO DOES LARGE SCALE SCULPTURES AND THAT WAS
SOMEONE WHO MAYBE WE WANT TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO IN SOME SORT OF WAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          ESPECIALLY, I COULD SEE IT MAYBE IN THE ROUNDABOUT AREA. 
          THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SPOT FOR HIM TO SHOWCASE,
LIKE A LARGE SCALE SCULPTURE. 
          AND THAT'S LIKE SOMEONE THAT WE COULD PULL FROM,
I THINK. 
          I THINK ONCE WE BUDGET THE, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A BUDGET FOR THIS THING AFTER YOU TALK
TO THE, THE, THE, THE MOSAIC ARTISTS AND SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD SPEND ON,
LET'S SAY, THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN WE CAN ASK THE COMMUNITY IF THEY KNOW OF ANY ARTISTS OR ARTWORKS
THAT CAN BE PURCHASED OUTRIGHT RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW,
A CUSTOM MADE THING. 
          BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, AT MANHATTAN BEACH, THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE IF ANYBODY IS
FAMILIAR WITH THE PARK, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE MANHATTAN BEACH ART CENTER. 
          THERE IS A THERE IS AN O, A RED O, WHICH I'M PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND WE JUST PURCHASED IT OUTRIGHT, AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE,
YOU KNOW, $25,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
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IT BECAME A BIG HIT BECAUSE IT'S VERY INSTAGRAMMABLE. 
          I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT ANYWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE DONE. 
          WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED? SO CAN WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? YEAH, WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT,
THEN GO BACK AND MAKE A VOTE. 
          OR WOULD YOU WANT US TO VOTE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO VOTE ON? YES. YOU WOULD NEED PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST. YEAH. 
          LET'S TAKE IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT THEN. IS THERE ANY ONLINE OR ZOOM COMMENTS? THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS AND NO ATTENDEES ON ZOOM. 
          IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? JOAN IRVINE DISTRICT ONE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. AND WE CAME UP,
KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL. 
          WE CAME UP WITH THIS PROBABLY 12 YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS NO MONEY. 
          BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE BOLLARDS,
WHATEVER YOU PUT ON TOP OF THE BOLLARDS, REALIZE PEOPLE LET THEIR DOGS GO ON TOP OF THE BOLLARDS. 
          AS FAR AS A JUMPING THING, WHY THEY USE ART THAT WAY WITH THEIR DOGS? BUT JUST JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALSO WITH AVENUE A,
THAT THERE IS WE ARE LOOKING AT WEST BASIN WATER DISTRICT HAS GIVING US A, A WATER BOTTLE REFILLER. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT AT AVENUE A,
AND THAT WOULD BE WITH THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THE COUNTY CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING AT AVENUE A. 
          SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS IN THE WORKS ON THAT,
NOTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          ALSO TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING AT AVENUE I THAT BECAUSE YOU DO
HAVE THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN ENTRY FROM RIVIERA VILLAGE TO THE BEACH. SO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS AT THAT ENTRY POINT,
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THROWING IT, YOU KNOW, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. AND ALSO AS LONG AS THERE'S CONSISTENCY,
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE THIS IS LIKE, AS YOU WANT, WE TALK ABOUT THE MOSAICS. THERE'S SOME MOSAICS ON SOME HOUSES ACROSS THE
STREET. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE BUILDING UPON, YOU KNOW,
IN THE FUTURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST RANDOM STUFF, IT REALLY WORKS TOGETHER. AND ALSO IF YOU'RE I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS,
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS, WHEN WILL IT BE PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IM KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL,
IS WE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS READY FOR AT THE LATEST FOR LA 28. 
          YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'D LOVE TO HAVE IT SOONER,
MAYBE FOR THE SUPER BOWL, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUPER BOWL AND THE RACE IS GOING TO BE ALONG THE ESPLANADE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE BY THEN. 
          BUT IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT IF WE HAD THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE TOURISTS
IN TOWN. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY DOING THINGS, DOING ADDITIONAL CLEANUPS,
MAYBE SOME EDUCATIONAL THINGS DOWN THERE. 
          SO IT'D BE WONDERFUL IF WE HAD THAT AS PART OF WHAT,
YOU KNOW, THE KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL CAN BE DOING. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING HAVE TALKED TO THE TOURISM COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE,
YOU KNOW, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND OFFERING OUR SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME EDUCATION FOR
THE TOURISTS COMING IN. 
          BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 
          A CLARIFYING QUESTION. OH, BOY. OKAY. AVENUE A WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE I MEAN,
IT WAS FALLING APART. 
          SO THEY HAVE CLOSED IT DOWN THE RAMP AT AVENUE A,
AND IT WAS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS. 
          AN EXTRA 30S FOR THIS PLEASE. YES. OH YEAH. DOES EVERYBODY AGREE? YOU HAVE TO ASK. OKAY. I'M SORRY. OH, AM I FINISHED THEN OR. 
          NO. GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. SO. SO WHAT WE DID IS WITH THE WATER BOTTLE REFILL,
WE LOOKED AT IT BEING ON REDONDO PROPERTY. 
          WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO THEN PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION WHILE THE COUNTY HAS IS LOOKING AT IT
AS PART OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING AT AVENUE A AND THEN THEY WOULD COVER THE COST OF INSTALLATION. 
          OKAY. IS THAT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          WATER BOTTLE, A WATER BOTTLE. REFILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE. BECAUSE THERE'S ONE AT MIRAMAR PARK,
AND THIS WOULD GIVE ONE AT THE OTHER END. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, PAUL MOSES. DISTRICT TWO. I WAS THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC ART
COMMISSION WHO COMMISSIONED PATTY AND DEBBIE TO DO THE BOLLARDS. 
          THE THE REASON WE DIDN'T DO THE SIDES WAS BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AT THE TIME. 
          AND ALSO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR FUTURE OTHER ARTISTS TO
TO FILL THOSE SPACES. 
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AND ALSO DISTRICT ONE AT THE TIME WAS VERY HEAVY WITH THE PUBLIC ART MONEY,
SO WE WANTED TO SPREAD IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE ESPLANADE AND DISCOVERED THAT EVERYONE THAT LIVES ON THE
ESPLANADE SAID, WE PAY FOR THIS VIEW. WE DON'T WANT THIS VIEW BLOCKED. 
          WE DON'T WANT THIS VIEW AFFECTED BY WHAT WHATEVER WE WERE DOING. 
          WE WANTED TO FACE THE LOW, THE LOW WALL ALONG THE ALONG THE SIDEWALK,
JUST FACE THE BOTTOM PART WITH MOSAICS AND THAT GOT RESISTANCE. 
          BUT DON'T LET THAT DAUNT YOU. PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PLANS. 
          AND JUST. THINGS HAVE PROBABLY CHANGED OVER TEN YEARS. 
          WE THOUGHT, THERE'S SO MANY HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THIS CITY. 
          PEOPLE WILL DONATE YOU TIME. YOU JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO INSTALL IT. 
          AND THAT WOULD DRESS UP THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE THING. 
          THE WE DISCUSSED THE ROUNDABOUT QUITE A BIT AND OUR IDEA WAS A SMALLER THAN LIFE SIZE
FIGURATIVE ARTWORK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. AGAIN, PEOPLE WERE RELUCTANT BECAUSE IT WOULD BLOCK THEIR VIEW,
BUT WHO CARES AT THIS POINT? IF THERE'S ANY MONEY FOR IT, ATTEMPT IT. SEE HOW IT GOES. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEAL LOCATION FOR A FIGURATIVE ARTWORK. 
          ONE THING ABOUT THE SIDEWALK MOSAICS, IF THEY GET SO BIG,
THEY BECOME SLIP HAZARDS. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ABOUT THAT. AND THE WHAT I SEE IS ON THE,
ON THE WHERE THE AVENUES MEET, THE ESPLANADE, THOSE INTERSECTIONS. THERE'S NOBODY THAT'S RIGHT THERE LIVING BEHIND THAT
SPOT. 
          SO IDEALLY AVENUE Y, YOU COULD PAINT THAT INTERSECTION LIKE THEY'VE DONE IN HERMOSA BEACH
ON PIER AVENUE. 
          IF YOU COULD WORK WITH THE BOLLARDS IN INCORPORATING A NEW IDEA FOR ART,
THERE COULD BE CAST CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, SEA LIFE COVERED IN MOSAIC. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT KEEPING IT ALMOST THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BOLLARDS. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU WON'T GET PEOPLE IRRITATED BECAUSE THEIR VIEW IS BLOCKED. 
          YOU SAY THE BOLLARDS ARE ALREADY THERE. WE PUT AN OCTOPUS IN THERE AND IT'S GRABBING THE
BOLLARDS OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          SO THERE'S THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE. JUST JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO,
10% OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT GOING TO LIKE IT. 
          BUT DON'T BE DAUNTED BY THAT. PLEASE, PLEASE GO FORWARD WITH YOUR PLANS. THEY SOUND LIKE
GOOD PLANS, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? DOES ANYONE WANT TO COME? OKAY. ANY. SO NOW IS THERE? THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS, ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM, BUT NO COMMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? OH, WE DID JUST GET A REQUEST TO SPEAK FROM ZEIN OBAGI. 
          OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, ZAIN. THANK YOU. 
          HI, COMMISSIONERS. I REALLY LIKED THAT PRESENTATION. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS SUPER COOL. AND IT KIND OF. 
          I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE ART THAT COULD POSSIBLY GO NEAR OR AROUND THE ESPLANADE,
CONSIDERING, THOUGH, ALSO WHAT PAUL MOSES JUST SAID ABOUT SOME OF THE PUSHBACK THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED
FOR PUTTING STUFF IN THE WAY OF THE VIEW. 
          BUT I THINK YOU ONLY HAVE $100,000 FOR THE ESPLANADE. 
          SO I IMAGINE THAT WHAT YOU CONTEMPLATE WOULD COST MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST YOU KIND OF SET FORTH YOUR VISION FOR ART ON THE ESPLANADE. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IS MORE MOSAICS,
BUT MAYBE YOU CAN COME UP WITH A DRAFT MASTER PLAN FOR WHAT YOU ENVISION GOING THERE. 
          MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS COME UP WITH A QUOTE FOR HOW MUCH THE ART THAT YOU
WANT TO GET WOULD COST, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOAL OF WHAT WE APPROPRIATE TO FOR THE ESPLANADE ABOVE AND BEYOND
THE $100,000, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR YEARS DOWN THE LINE AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR AROUND REDONDO BEACH. 
          THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST. THANKS. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ONLINE? THAT WAS THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING FORWARD DO WE NOW RECEIVE AND FILE A MOTION TO RECEIVE
AND FILE? OR DO WE NOW PUT FORTH? YOU WOULD RECEIVE AD FILE UNLESS YOU WANTED TO DO MORE. 
          OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO TO JACK, IF WE CAN GET SOME INPUT ABOUT THE ARTISTS AS SOON AS WE CAN TO CONTINUE FINISHING THE GET THE COSTS AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY FROM THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL,
AND THEN AS WELL, PUT AN RFQ OUT FOR ARTISTS SO IT'S OUT THERE SO WE CAN START, 
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YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME INTEREST FOR. I'M SURE WE COULD DO AN RFQ AS FAR AS THE AS FAR AS
THE WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE AND PERMISSIBILITY OF SIMPLY GOING TO ONE SPECIFIC ARTIST AND SAYING,
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS. 
          I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OKAY. IT IT MAY VERY WELL BE. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ONE, ONE PARTICULAR IF YOU WENT BACK TO THE THE SAME MOSAIC ARTISTS
WITHOUT WITHOUT ASKING ANYBODY ELSE. 
          THAT'LL BE DEBBIE. DEBBIE. PATTY LINETT. AND SO GOING. 
          GOING NON NONCOMPETITIVE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S BEEN DONE. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY A PROBLEM BUT I NEED TO VERIFY. 
          YEAH. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION. IF WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET DO WE WANT TO ADD TO
THOSE BOLLARDS OR DO WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT HAVING THE ART IN THE OTHER PLACES SINCE THERE'S ALREADY ART ON THEM? I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT COULD BE,
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          YEAH, VERSUS CUTTING IT OFF BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW WHAT THE COST COULD BE FOR THE ORIGINAL
ARTIST TO, TO TO MAKE THAT THOSE BE COMPLETE. AND THEN WE'LL KNOW TO HAVE WHERE THAT'S AT WITH US IN
ADDITION TO. 
          THAT'S FAIR. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT AN RFQ OUT FOR LIKE A FEW MONTHS,
AN OPEN RFQ FOR A FEW MONTHS AND MAKE THESE ARTISTS AWARE OF THE RFQ THAT IS OUT AND SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED AND WANT TO MAYBE
REPEAT THE PROJECT AGAIN AND ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL FOR US. 
          I THINK THAT THE RFQ IS FOR ADDITION TO THE ARTISTS THAT THAT WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED
WITH THE BOLLARDS THAT ARE THERE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO START MAKING THIS MOVE FORWARD WITH
ADDITIONAL MOSAICS TO TO FINISH THE BOLLARDS. 
          SO I THINK THAT IF WE ASK, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS WITH THAT,
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL ARTISTS WHEN WE PUT OUT ALSO THE RFQ ALONG WITH IT FOR ADDITIONAL MOSAICS, FOR ADDITIONAL SCULPTURES. 
          AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO SAY IF WE PUT OUT THAT RFQ,
IT SHOULD BE ARTISTS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE MATERIALS FOR THE SALT AIR. THEY NEED TO KNOW THEIR METALS. 
          THEY NEED TO KNOW THEIR TESSERAE. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GET REALLY WEATHERED,
AS WE ALL KNOW. 
          I DOUBLE UP ON THE ON THE COATS WHEN GOING DOWN THERE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH SKIN. SO ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, SO. 
          THOSE CAN ALL BE PARAMETERS IN THE RFQ. SOMETIMES THAT GETS MISSED IN THE MIX WHEN WE'RE
PUTTING IT OUT. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE ADDRESSED. 
          THERE HAS TO BE GREAT KNOWLEDGE WITH THAT IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE DURABILITY AND
LONGEVITY WITH THESE PUBLIC ART PIECES. 
          THAT WILL BE LOVELY ON THE ESPLANADE FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY. 
          AND YOU'LL NEED TO CONSIDER THAT FOR COMMISSIONER TANER'S PROPOSAL OF POSSIBLY FINDING ART
AND PURCHASING IT SOMEBODY WOULD NEED TO BE QUALIFIED TO JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A MARINE ENVIRONMENT SAFE. 
          BUT ALSO THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S REALLY LIKE THE THREE,
THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW. 
          SO I WANT TO JUST ADD THAT PATTY AND DEBBIE,
MOSAIC ARTIST, ALSO DID THE MOSAIC THAT'S ON OUR BEAUTIFUL POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL. SO IF YOU WANT MORE OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY DO, HOW THAT WORK IS DONE, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD CONTINUE
FOCUSING ON THE BOLLARDS RATHER THAN SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE LIMITED BUDGET,
IT'S A VERY VALID ONE. 
          BUT ONE ANSWER TO THAT IS, IS THE FOLLOWING. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S BEAUTIFUL MOSAIC WORK ON
THOSE EXISTING BOLLARDS, THAT ART IS NOT REALLY THAT VISIBLE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE ON THE SIDE,
WHICH DOESN'T REALLY COMES INTO YOUR EYE WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH, OR SO YOU KNOW, THE EMPTY SITES ARE ACTUALLY WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES. 
          SO USING THE THE TWO SIDES TO ADDITIONAL SITES WILL MAKE THE ENTIRE BOLLARDS. 
          AND THAT THAT SERIES OF ART ALL ALONG THE ESPLANADE I THINK MUCH MORE VISIBLE FLUIDITY AND
MOSAIC IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT IT'S NOT THE MOST EXPENSIVE FORM OF ART,
EVEN THOUGH THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GREAT VALUE IN IT. SO THAT'S ONE REASON THAT WE WANTED TO DO THAT. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED AT, WHICH IS NOT IN THE REPORT,
BUT VERY SIMILAR TO THE UTILITY BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT, 
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WE LOOKED AT THE THE TRASH CANS. THE TRASH CANS ARE ARE THERE THEY ARE ALMOST ON EVERY
AVENUE RIGHT ON THE WATER SIDE. THERE ARE TRASH CANS WHICH CAN BE BEAUTIFIED TO BUT WE JUST LEFT IT OUT OF THE
REPORT FOR THE TIME BEING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CONCENTRATE ON THE THE BOLLARDS AND THE THE ROUND ABOUT YOU KNOW,
SIGNATURE STATUE. 
          SO I'M HEARING A FEW THINGS. WOULD WE LIKE TO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THIS? DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTACT THE ARTIST TO FIND OUT? NO, YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. THAT'S JUST. 
          YOU REQUESTED TO STAFF AND STAFF SAID YES. OKAY,
SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT REQUEST. 
          JUST SO WE AT LEAST KNOW WHERE WE STAND, RIGHT? JUST RECEIVE AND FILE. YOU CAN VOTE TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING AND I
WOULD AGENDIZE IT. 
          IF YOU THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD BY THEN SO YOU CAN KEEP IT
GOING. 
          YEAH, I WOULD LIKE. YEAH, DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY. 
          AND CAN WE AT LEAST GET CLARIFIED. IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAIN THREE THINGS WERE DEBBIE
COLLETTE, PATTY LINETT. FOR CONTINUATION OF THE, MOSAICS AND THEN AN RFQ,
AND THEN ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE EXISTING EXISTING ARTWORK. 
          YEAH. I HAVE A NOTE ON PURCHASING EXISTING ARTWORK FINDING OUT IF WE CAN SIMPLY GO TO A
PREVIOUS ARTIST WITHOUT A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. 
          WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU WERE ASKING? ON THE,
THAT THING ABOUT THE. 
          BECAUSE I'VE ASKED STUFF LIKE THAT BEFORE. THAT'S WHY WE GOT WE'VE GOT A LIST OF ARTISTS
NOW TO LIKE PREVENT BEFORE WE DO THAT. 
          I GUESS THE, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A QUESTION LIKE A CONTINUATION OF THOSE ART PIECES VERSUS
WELL, THEN THE ANSWER WOULD BE THE QUESTION WOULD BE,
CAN WE CONSIDER IT THAT? YEAH. AND THEN CONTINUE. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE EXISTING CONTRACT IS,
WHAT ARE WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE GOT TO GET A LITTLE CREATIVE ABOUT IT. ANY OTHER THING. OH,
ONE LAST THING. 
          IF I MAY ADD, I THINK ONE OF OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS MADE AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT. 
          SO THE CURRENT THEME OF THOSE MOSAICS ARE BASICALLY,
YOU KNOW, SEA SURF, FISH SHELLS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ANOTHER DIFFERENT THEME TO USE ON THOSE BOLLARDS. 
          YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE SAME VISUAL ESTHETICS,
BUT MAYBE MORE HUMAN RELATED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE UPCOMING OLYMPICS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF. MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY. 
          I THINK THAT GENTLEMAN HAS LEFT US, YOU KNOW,
THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH THE ARTISTS AS WELL. 
          MAYBE THEY WILL HAVE AN INTERESTING IDEA. SO A FOURTH THING. 
          SO ON THE TOP OF THE BOLLARDS, MAYBE WE SHOULD WE CAN GET SOME INPUT ON THE STRUCTURAL
CAPABILITY OF ANOTHER ARTIST DOING SMALLER FORMS OF SCULPTURE ON THOSE. 
          WELL, I GUESS WE'D NEED TO KNOW HOW THEY'RE BUILT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO WE HAVE TO
ASSUME THAT SOMETHING WAS SUBMITTED TO ENGINEERING. 
          YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT WE'LL CHECK ON THAT AND SEE IF. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING, ANY POISON PILL THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT. 
          FOR THE INSERTS, BUT NOT THE TOP. I DON'T KNOW,
BUT THAT'S WHAT. 
          CAN WE FIND THAT OUT TOO? SO THERE'S FOUR THINGS JUST TO CLARIFY. 
          SO I HAVE STRUCTURE. NON COMPETITIVE OFFER A CONTINUATION AND AMENDMENT. 
          ARE THOSE. THOSE WERE THE THE THE THE WAYS WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOLLARDS AND THE RFQ AND
THE THEMATIC. 
          AND THEN WHAT WAS THE QUESTION WITH THE RFQ. JUST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT AN RFQ
FOR, FOR ARTISTS, FOR SCULPTURES AND MOSAICS ALONG THE ESPLANADE. 
          AND THEN IN THAT RFQ, WE WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE
MATERIALS IN WHICH THEY NEED TO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN USING. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YEP. WELL,
THIS WOULD BE WE'D HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND BASICALLY PUT DOWN ALL OF OUR PARAMETERS IN THE RFQ. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT EXPERIENCE DO YOU NEED TO HAVE? WHAT KNOWLEDGE DO YOU NEED TO HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT QUALIFIES YOU? WHAT DOES THIS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. WHAT QUALIFICATIONS ARE WE ASKING FOR. 
          AND THAT CAN PROBABLY BE WORKED OUT WITH JUST THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          AND YOU GUYS KIND OF DID IT AT SOME POINT, UNLESS YOU THINK THAT THAT'S BETTER DONE WITH
THE WHOLE COMMISSION. 
          I THINK YOU ALREADY KIND OF DID WORK IT OUT. I JUST THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT
OUT TO THE PUBLIC, WE SHOULD INCLUDE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY WORKED OUT. I JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS IT WITH THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK WE ALL THINK GRANDIOSE. 
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BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LONGEVITY AND DURABILITY,
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE TELL ALL YOU KNOW, FOR THE ARTWORKS. AND SO THAT JUST NEEDS TO ALWAYS BE ADDRESSED,
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S RIGHT BY THE WATER. 
          YEAH I AGREE. SO I THINK THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE FOUR THINGS IF WE COULD HAVE YOUR
HELP AND THEN CAN WE ALSO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN. 
          YEAH. SO WE NEED TWO MOTIONS, ONE TO RECEIVE AND FILE AND ONE TO AGENDIZE IT FOR
CONTINUATION. 
          OKAY. PERFECT. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO DO WE GO BACK TO ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR ARE WE
DONE WITH. 
          NO. RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. I'LL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE, FOR MOTIONING AND COMMISSIONER PITZELE FOR SECONDING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? I I'M SORRY I MISSED WHO? COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE. 
          YEAH. AND, COMMISSIONER PITZELE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. PITZELE. I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER PITZELE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO, BRING THIS TOPIC BACK FOR DISCUSSION AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND
HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BROUGHT TO THE NEXT MEETING AND IN THE AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE, FOR MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PITZELE. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. SO NOW, ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO PUT ANY
TOPIC 
          [K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]
ON OUR FUTURE AGENDAS? YES. PLEASE. MAY I? YES. 
          SO I WAS LOOKING I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A KITE FESTIVAL NEXT WEEK? SO WHEN I, WHENEVER I READ LIKE THINGS NEWS,
LIKE THE KITE FESTIVAL, I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE ARTISTIC SIDE OF LIKE, KITES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE REASON WHY I MENTIONED THAT WHEN I SAW THE NOTICE ABOUT
THE UPCOMING KITE FESTIVAL, I SAID THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE BEEN A NEW COMMISSION FOR ALMOST MORE THAN A YEAR,
AND WE TALKED ABOUT OUR REDEFINING OUR MISSION AND WRITING A VISION STATEMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, WHICH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, HAVE WE? ARE WE SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR CHALK ART FESTIVAL TO TO. 
          BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THE OTHER GENRES OF OF ART. 
          RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING INVOLVED WITH,
YOU KNOW, MUSIC CONCERTS, FESTIVALS BASICALLY BROADENING OUR SCOPE FROM BEING A PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE OF SOME, YOU KNOW,
SEVERAL YEARS AGO INTO A FULL FLEDGED CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. 
          IF WE HAVE A CLEAR MISSION STATEMENT INCORPORATED INTO OUR MAYBE ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
OR WHATEVER WE HAVE, AND BASICALLY PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND GET THEIR APPROVAL FORMALLY,
WE CAN, FOR EXAMPLE, GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZE THE KITE FESTIVAL AND SAY,
LET'S, LET'S DO SOMETHING TOGETHER. 
          YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SOME, LET'S DO A LITTLE ART EXHIBITION WITH THE KITES. 
          AND SO THAT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL SYNERGY, IN MY OPINION. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A AT LEAST A FORMAL MISSION ON PAPER. 
          SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS AGENDA ITEM IS TO FIND A WAY OF REWRITING AND FORMALIZING THE MISSION AND VISION FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. 
          AND FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A MAJOR FESTIVAL IN OUR TOWN THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT? HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN FUTURE FESTIVALS? BECAUSE THESE ARE THE EXACT THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE WITH THE MAYOR WHEN HE
VISITED US ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO OR MAYBE NINE MONTHS AGO, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          AND THAT MAY BE ALSO A CLEAR VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF THE THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN. I MEAN,
REDONDO BEACH IS GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME MAJOR CHANGES WITH THE OLYMPICS AND EVERYTHING COMING UP, BECAUSE 90% OF THE OLYMPICS ARE ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE IN THE,
OUR PART OF THE, 
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THE LA COUNTY, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN CARSON, LONG BEACH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THIS IS THIS PLACE IS GOING TO BE IS REALLY HOPPING. 
          AND ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT LONG, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HOW TO PUT IT INTO
THE AS AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT MAYBE WE CAN ALL GIVE IT A TRY OR SUBMIT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT OUR MISSION SHOULD BE. 
          AND THEN ONE OF US, WITH THE HELP OF AI SIT DOWN AND WRITE A NEW MISSION STATEMENT. 
          WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I'M NOT CERTAIN IT EVEN NEEDS TO GO TO THE COUNCIL. 
          I THINK YOU CAN ADOPT A MISSION STATEMENT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY REASON YOU COULDN'T UNLESS
IT ACTUALLY TOOK IT BEYOND WHAT, THE WHAT THE WHAT THE REVISED RULES SAY. I MEAN,
IF, FOR EXAMPLE, SAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO ORGANIZE A FESTIVAL IN IN REDONDO BEACH, YOU NEED TO COME TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. 
          AND THEN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAYS, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
SOME, SOME, SOME NEW ORDINANCE. RIGHT, EXACTLY. BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE SORRY. 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT LIKE MAYBE IT'S ON OUR PART TO ALSO HAVE THE OUTREACH TO THEM. 
          RIGHT? BE LIKE WE ARE THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. 
          WE WANT TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE ART THAT'S HAPPENING. 
          AND IF WE'RE BRINGING MAJOR MUSICAL ARTISTS INTO OUR TOWN,
WHY ARE WE NOT THERE AND INVOLVED IN IT IN SOME SORT OF ASPECT? SO LIKE HOW I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE LIKE,
BETTER OUTREACH TO OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THINGS. AND MAYBE THE CONVERSATION COULD BE MORE OF,
LET'S MAKE A LIST OF DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE THE KITE FESTIVAL AND LIKE WHATEVER ELSE WE THINK WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO BE A PART
OF AND MAKE THAT LIST AND THEN START FIGURING OUT KIND OF WHO IS THE CONTACT PERSON TO REACH OUT TO AND SAY,
HEY, WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED LIKE WE'RE PART YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR CITY A BEAUTIFUL,
ARTISTIC CITY, AND WE'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          MAY I POINT OUT THAT THIS DOVETAILS NICELY WITH COMING UP WITH STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVES? THIS COULD VERY WELL BE A STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVE. 
          CAN I ADD ALONG WITH THAT TO TO FIND BUILDINGS THAT WE RENT OR LEASE OUT AND FIND OUT SMALLER ONES TO START US ON SMALL SCALE,
BUT FINALLY GET SOME SORT OF HUB FOR A MINI LITTLE ARTS CENTER. FOR INSTANCE, LIKE JOE'S CRAB SHACK,
THAT THAT BUILDING BY THE LAGOON HAS BEEN EMPTY FOREVER. 
          IT COULDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, KILNS THERE, BUT YOU COULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME 2D ART,
ART INSTRUCTORS OR WHATEVER, BE IT THERE, IT MAY BE HALF GALLERY. CAN WE FIND OUT WHERE THE POSSIBILITIES IN THAT FOR
THE FUTURE? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, AND WE'RE WAY LONG OVERDUE FOR HAVING A CULTURAL ARTS CENTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR ARTISTS THAT. THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE BOTH A STRATEGIC PLAN AND
FOLLOWING. 
          IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE A BUDGET. YEAH. OH, YEAH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS FITS IN THERE,
BUT CAN YOU CAN YOU MAYBE GIVE, GIVE, GET GIVE US AN IDEA FOR THE NEXT OF AVAILABILITY OF,
OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE EMPTY BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN EMPTY FOREVER. 
          I HAVE NO. THAT ONE I CAN FIND OUT. I CAN PROBABLY FIND OUT ABOUT IT. 
          IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN INVENTORY, THAT'S PROBABLY THE OTHER ONES. 
          YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE THAT I'M
SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD APPRECIATE. 
          AND IT'S YEAH, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT CONDITION THE BUILDINGS IN,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS IF IF IT'S A WATERFRONT LEASEHOLD. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I CAN CERTAINLY ASK. I CAN SEE A LOT OF ARTISTS DOING PLEIN AIR. 
          WHAT ABOUT IS THERE ANY LIKE BUILDING THAT THE CITY HAS OWNERSHIP OVER IN SOME SORT OF WAY
THAT MAYBE IT'S VACANT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S JOE'S CRAB SHACK? LIKE, IS THAT IT'S EMPTY AND IS THAT EMPTY? BUT IS THAT BY THE EMPTY? YEAH. BUT IS THAT,
LIKE, OWNED BY THE CITY WHERE, LIKE, MY THOUGHT IS MORE LIKE AT VETERANS PARK, THERE'S THE LIBRARY AND GET US BACK ON TRACK. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER AGENDAS THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT
MEETING IN, IN LINE WITH WHAT THESE GUYS ARE SAYING? THE MAYOR HIMSELF HAD STOOD HERE BEFORE AND
BASICALLY CAME. 
          HE ASKED US FOR FOR US TO KIND OF COME UP WITH THESE THINGS,
WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT OR NOT. 
          IT'S UP TO US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE PLACES,
LIKE YOU SAID, VETERANS PARK. 
          THERE'S LIKE THAT AMPHITHEATER THERE. HE ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT,
THAT CAMPGROUND, THERE'S A LITTLE THING. SO THERE'S PLACES HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT UP OURSELVES WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION OR ANYTHING,
WE'RE ALLOWED TO AGENDIZE THESE THINGS. 
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SO ALONG THOSE LINES WITH WE HAVEN'T EVEN TAPPED INTO MUSIC FOR ANY OF THE STUFF AS FAR AS
THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. 
          AND HE HIMSELF, THE MAYOR, CAME IN HERE AND SAID THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO USE SOME OF
THESE PARKS DOWN BY THE WE JUST HAVE TO ASK, LIKE, IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF US. YOU JUST COME UP WITH SOME JUST LIKE YOU DID
PITCH IT AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? BUT I FIND PLACES YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE SUITABLE FOR A PERFORMANCE
LOCATION, FOR INSTANCE. BRING IT UP. WE'LL WE'LL TAKE IT TO AGENDA UPSTAIRS. 
          HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, IN ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THAT,
DO WE WANT TO BREAK IT UP INTO PIECES OR. 
          WELL, DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS,
AS JACK SAID, ARE GOING TO FALL UNDER THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. SO MAYBE GIVE ALL OF THAT SOME THOUGHT,
RIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER? NOT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE SHOULD PUT ON THE AGENDA TO EXPLORE FURTHER? YES. AND AS I SAID, I THINK THAT THE STARTING POINT SHOULD BE FOR FOR US,
FOR THE SEVEN OF US AND THE STAFF TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR MISSION IS, WHAT OUR VISION IS AND WHAT ARE OUR
LIMITATIONS, WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE. BECAUSE IF WE INTERNALIZE THOSE,
THEN WE ARE GOING TO START ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE ARE THERE YET AS A GROUP,
AS A COMMISSION, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE ARE STILL OPERATING UNDER THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSION MENTALITY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, MUSIC. WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED MUSIC,
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN I READ THIS, YOU KNOW, I GET GOOSEBUMPS. I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE ARE FINALLY TALKING ABOUT BALLET. 
          SO TWO THINGS THEN, COMMISSIONER TANER. SO YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR EACH
OF US TO., IT'D BE NICE FOR EACH OF US TO MAYBE SEND TO JACK A SLIDE OR A PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS WHAT
OUR VISION IS AND WHAT OUR MISSION SHOULD BE FOR THIS. OUR SUGGESTION WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR SUGGESTIONS TO HIM. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD SEND IT TO JACK AND THEN MAYBE THAT WAY EACH OF US CAN JUST TAKE A FEW
MINUTES NEXT MEETING TO PRESENT THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT COLLECTIVELY AND DECIDE WHAT OUR. DO YOU WANT TO PERHAPS PUT TOGETHER A MISSION STATEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE SO YOU CAN MEET
WITHOUT VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT? YEAH, BUT IF IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING UP TO A,
UP TO BELOW A QUORUM CAN MEET, TALK AND DISCUSS AN ITEM LEGALLY, IF YOU'RE A COMMITTEE. IF YOU ARE NOT, THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MEETING. 
          YOU NEED A QUORUM IF PRESENT IDEAS TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY WITHOUT TALKING TO EACH OTHER,
AND THEN YOU BASICALLY PRESENT IT IN A SLIDESHOW AT OUR NEXT COMMISSION. 
          IS THAT IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW,
BUT WE CAN TRY IT AND I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. 
          AND IF I FIND OUT I'M WRONG, I'LL SHOOT YOU BACK A MESSAGE. OKAY. OKAY,
LET'S DO THAT. 
          I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THE BROWN ACT. OKAY, SO LET ME FIND OUT. 
          MY ONLY THING IS, YOU KNOW, SUBCOMMITTEES, THEY TAKE A LONG TIME. 
          AND I THINK THE SOONER WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT TO SAY AND EVENTUALLY HAVE OUR OUR CHAIR
PRESENT THIS. 
          IF YOU AGREE TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, LOOK,
YOU KNOW, WE TOOK OUR TIME. 
          IT'S GOOD THAT WE EXPERIENCE A LOT OF NEW IDEAS. 
          BUT THIS IS I WE BELIEVE THAT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF AND BE
DOING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          AND IF THEY AGREE, MAYBE THEY MAKE A FEW CORRECTIONS HERE AND THERE. 
          THIS IS THE APPROACH YOU WANT TO ATTEMPT. I WILL FIND OUT IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE AND I WILL
SEND YOU A MESSAGE WITH THE ANSWER. 
          THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AND THEN TO COMMISSIONER TANER,
YOU HAD MENTIONED THE REDONDO BEACH BALLET COMPANY. 
          I KNOW WE RECEIVED AND FILED INFORMATION FROM HER AND WOULD WE LIKE TO PUT THAT ON OUR
NEXT AGENDA TO DISCUSS FURTHER? RIGHT. WE DID. YES. OKAY. SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO GO ON OUR AGENDA AS WELL. 
          JACK. YES. YOU DO WISH TO AGENDIZE THAT OKAY? YES. THANK YOU. WE DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD IT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN
ISSUE ON THAT. 
          AND THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF TALKING. YEAH. ONE MORE. 
          A REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT. CAN WE AGENDIZE THAT THE ARTESIA PEOPLE? DO THEY HAVE? DO WE GET CONSTANT REPORTS FROM THEM? I THINK THAT WHEN THEY'RE READY, THEY'LL REPORT TO. THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS WITH THEM. ALL
RIGHT. NOW THE CURRENT STATUS IS, IS THAT THE RFQ IS STILL OPEN. SO WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT IN. 
          AND THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE SURVEY THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THE
LGBTQ FOR THE PUBLIC OUTREACH. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVEN'T MOVED TO ANOTHER REPORTABLE STATION. 
          OKAY. COOL. AND MAYBE ALSO AGAIN A LISTING OF VENUES THAT'S THAT'S OPEN THEN TO LIKE MUSIC
OR I MEAN, MAYBE IF WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY WITH THAT. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TOO. 
          I'M SORRY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO YOU DIRECTLY ABOUT THAT? LIKE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION? I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHAT PUBLIC VENUES THAT
ARE LIKE UNDER CITY MANAGEMENT DO WE 
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HAVE ACCESS TO. EXACTLY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SURVEY OF AVAILABLE PROPERTIES THAT WE
YEAH, THAT WE CAN USE AND HAVE ACCESS TO. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT. 
          I SUSPECT THAT THAT IS A MULTI-DEPARTMENT OVERLAP AT BUDGET TIME AND STRATEGIC PLAN TIME. 
          OH, YEAH. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE,
BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO NOT BE QUICK. 
          THAT'S HALF US THOUGH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU. 
          IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE MORE SURVEY OF PROPERTY. 
          KNOW THE BETTER YOUR FUTURE WILL BE WHEN SOME OF. 
          THE COMMISSIONERS NOW WILL BE HEADING OUT. SO,
AS WE ALL KNOW, IT GOES TO THE NEXT MONTH. 
          IT GOES TO THE NEXT MONTH. SIX MONTHS LATER. THIS IS JUST SO. 
          IT'S IN THE BOOKS FOR THE POSSIBILITIES OF MORE THAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY,
FOR THE ARTS AND THE FUTURE. 
          I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT FOR US TO HAVE, WE GOT TO DO SOME HOMEWORK TO OURSELVES,
JUST LOOK AROUND AND JUST BANG IN THE BUILDINGS AND SEE IF, I MEAN, JUST IF WE DON'T ASK QUESTIONS OURSELVES,
LIKE IF WE'RE COUNTING ON THEM TO GO LOOKING FOR BUILDINGS, LIKE TO GO OUT THERE AND JUST SAY, HEY, CAN WE GET THIS? IS THIS THIS CAN WE. YOU'RE FREE TO TO TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT ON YOUR OWN. 
          COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE. PHRASE THAT. SO CAN WE DO THAT AS WELL? YEAH. SO WE WOULD LIKE A LIST OF CITY PROPERTIES THAT WE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO TO USE FOR CULTURAL ARTS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES,
SUCH AS BUILDING A CERAMICS STUDIO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH. LIKE A YEAH, A COMMUNITY CENTER. I MEAN,
I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I THINK OF THE VETERANS PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT'S EMPTY. 
          LIKE, IS THAT REALLY CITY RUN? IS THERE A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT'S ALSO INVOLVED IN THAT? IS THERE LIKE ARE THERE AMPHITHEATERS OR STAGES OR PARKS OR. 
          WHAT'S PERFORMABLE WHAT'S EXHIBIT WHAT WHAT WHAT EXISTS THAT THE CITY HAS CONTROL? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE QUESTION ASKING MYSELF,
BUT I RECOMMEND STRONGLY THAT THAT COULD BE A VERY GOOD STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVE. 
          YEAH. TO CREATE A SURVEY OF AVAILABLE ART FACILITIES FOR,
YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ART USE. 
          YEAH. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, AGAIN, NOT TO MAKING IT LONG,
FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY HAS PLANS TO REBUILD THE POLICE BUILDING. 
          CORRECT. I'M SORRY. THEY WANT TO REBUILD THE POLICE BUILDING FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          HAVE THEY REACHED A DECISION? DO YOU KNOW? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE
CONSIDERING WAS TO COMBINE THE ANNEX, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S CALLED THE DETECTIVES BUILDING IF YOU HAVEN'T
SEEN IT ON PCH. 
          INTO A NEWLY BUILT BUILDING WHICH WILL MAKE THAT BUILDING ON PCH. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, ARCHITECTURALLY VERY STRIKING BUILDING. 
          IT'S NICE. ABUNDANT, I MEAN, OBSOLETE, I MEAN,
SO WE COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, BID FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. IT'S IDEAL. I MEAN, IF YOU PUT BASICALLY,
YOU KNOW, REDONDO BEACH ART CENTER, RIGHT ON PCH, IT'S VERY VISIBLE. IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY VERY STRIKING BUILDING. 
          I HAVEN'T BEEN INSIDE THANK GOD, BUT CURRENTLY OFFICES AND CUBICLES AT THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY NICE IDEA. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          HAVE THOSE GREAT IDEAS. NEXT MEETING. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE
AGENDA? NO. THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED IT IS BECAUSE I MENTIONED THIS,
FOR EXAMPLE, TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING IDENTIFYING THINGS,
BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT DISTRICT, MAYBE THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF WE DO THIS COMMON,
THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE. 
          WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. SO WE ARE SET WITH THAT. 
          JACK, DO WE HAVE ANY OR DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES TO RECEIVE AND
FILE? NO, I BELIEVE WE DO NOT. OKAY. THAT BRINGS US TO OUR ADJOURNMENT. 
          OKAY. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION WILL BE A REGULAR
MEETING TO BE HELD AT 7 P.M. 
          ON MARCH 25TH, 2026, IN THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET,
REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          I'LL SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KELLY,
FOR A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:24. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.