TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT. OKAY. LET HIM GO. OKAY.
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ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO A CALL TO ORDER FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MARCH 19TH.[A. CALL TO ORDER]
PART DEUX. WE'RE GOING TO REDO THIS AGAIN. SO FIRST, IT'S A LITTLE LATER.IT'S AN HOUR LATER, ACTUALLY. LET'S START WITH A ROLL CALL TO ORDER.
COMMISSIONER LIGHT. STILL HERE. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL.
HERE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG. HERE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS.
STILL HERE. COMMISSIONER CONROY. HERE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.
HERE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. HERE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA.
[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION TO RECEIVE BLUE FOLDER ITEM.[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS.[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON AGENDA ITEMS. ANYTHING. NOT SEEING ANYTHING. WE WILL NOW CONTINUE WITH EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.RIGHT. YEP. RECEIVE AND FILE NON AGENDA ITEMS WHICH WE HAVE.
RIGHT? WE HAVE NONE. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. NOTHING.
SPOKE TO ROB GADDIS ABOUT J1 AND J2. SURE. YEAH.
I SPOKE WITH CHAIRMAN CRAIG ON J1 AND J2 AND WITH STAFF ON J1 AND J2 AND WITH COMMISSIONER BOSWELL ON J1 AND J2.
NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE. YES, I SPOKE WITH CHAIR CRAIG AND THE PUBLIC.
AS STATED I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE AND COMMISSIONER GADDIS.
ACTUALLY, I WANT TO AMEND MY STATEMENT. I DID SPEAK WITH MAYOR LIGHT, ON J1 AND J2.
[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
OKAY, SO NOW SHOULD WE BEGIN OUR PUBLIC HEARING? J1. J1. MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. LET'S BEGIN. SHOULD I READ IT OR NOT? NO STAFF WILL PRESENT IT. OKAY, WE'RE ON J1, MR. SCULLY. OKAY. THANK YOU CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STEVEN GIANG TO PRESENT THE ITEM TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU, STEVEN. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF AN MND AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS RAMP AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ADA ACCESSIBLE CONCRETE ACCESS PATH AT 811 AND 1109 ESPLANADE.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 811 AND 1109 ESPLANADE.
THE ZONING FOR IT IS PRO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
THE PROPOSED AVENUE ACCESS RAMP IS A PUBLIC ACCESS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING ENCLOSED BEACH ACCESS RAMP AT THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF AVENUE A, WITH THE NEW ADA ACCESSIBLE ACCESS PATH AND RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE AVENUE A ACCESS PROJECT.
APPROXIMATELY 812 FOOT LONG ADA ACCESS PATH WITH A SWITCHBACK CONFIGURATION.
THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES RETAINING WALLS, GRADING, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING, SEATING, BICYCLE PARKING, IRRIGATION AND LANDSCAPING. CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN WINTER OF 2026 AND TAKE ABOUT 12 MONTHS.
HERE IS A SLIDE SHOWCASING THE PROJECT LANDSCAPING.
THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE REPLACING THE EXISTING DISTURBED VEGETATION TO BE REMOVED, AND THE NEWLY GRADED BLUFF WOULD BE REPLANTED WITH NATIVE COASTAL BLUFF AND DUNE SPECIES INTENDED TO STABILIZE THE SLOPE AND ASSIST WITH EROSION CONTROL, IMPROVE THE SITE'S APPEARANCE, AND ENHANCE HABITAT VALUE.
THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE PROJECT CEQA REVIEW.
THE CITY PREPARED AN ISMND AND CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND CONCLUDED THAT WITH MITIGATION IN PLACE, THE PROJECT'S IMPACTS CAN BE REDUCED TO A LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVEL. THE PROJECT INCLUDES THREE BIOLOGICAL MITIGATION MEASURES FOCUS ON NESTING BIRDS, WESTERN SNOWY PLOVER AND POST-CONSTRUCTION BLUFF RESTORATION.
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HERE, ONE OF THE THREE CEP FINDINGS. THE FINDING IS WHY THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. THE PROJECT IS NOT INTRODUCING A NEW USE.IT IS REPLACING AND IMPROVING EXISTING PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS FACILITY, RESTORING SAFE ACCESS AND REMAINING CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COASTAL ACCESS AND RECREATION POLICIES. THE MAIN POINT OF THIS FINDING IS THAT THE PROJECT SUPPORTS PUBLIC COASTAL ACCESS.
IT IS NOT CREATING A NEW PRIVATE USE OR TAKING ACCESS AWAY, BUT INSTEAD REPLACING A CLOSED ACCESS RAMP WITH A SAFER, MORE ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC FACILITY. THIS FINDING ADDRESSES CEQA COMPLIANCE.
THE CITY PREPARED AN ISMMD FOR THIS PROJECT AND CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, AND CONCLUDED THAT WITH MITIGATED OR MITIGATION INCORPORATED, THE PROJECT'S ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WOULD BE REDUCED TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVEL. SO AN EIR IS NOT REQUIRED BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE STAFF REPORT AND DOCUMENTS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM AND APPROVE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT 2025-0072 SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS, CONDITIONS AND RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I GET A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-03PCR04 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
SO WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE. SECOND. OH I'M SORRY A SECOND.
SORRY. SECOND FOR THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THEN PROBABLY A ROLL CALL VOTE. ROLL CALL. VOTE NOW.
NOW ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER LIGHT? AYE. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG? AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? AYE. COMMISSIONER CONROY? AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.
YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG. YES. MOTION CARRIES. YEAH.
NOW DEJA VU WE'RE GOING TO NOW I GUESS DO WE GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEM J.2 AS WRITTEN? IS THAT WHAT WE DID LAST TIME OR NOT? NO WE DON'T.
HAVE WE HAD TO? ACTUALLY, NO. WE JUST STARTED ON J.2 LAST TIME.
YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION. SO, STAFF, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR SHOULD I READ IT OR NOT? YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THIS IS ON ITEM J.2. I'LL READ IT AGAIN.
FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC, WE HAD TO RESTART OUR MEETING.
A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE, PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND ADDENDUM TO THE CERTIFIED REDONDO BEACH FOCUSED GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, ZONING ORDINANCE. UPDATE, AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT YEAH PROGRAM AMENDMENT PROGRAM EIR CONCERNING THE UPDATE OF THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT.
EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT B AND ASSOCIATED AMENDMENTS TO THE DRAFT LAND USE ELEMENT EXHIBIT C AND SUBDIVISION EXHIBIT D AND ZONING ORDINANCE EXHIBIT E REQUIRED FOR CONSISTENCY THAT REPLACE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY DISTRICTS ON THE CITY'S IDENTIFIED HOUSING SITES WITH HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 65 DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS 65 TO 80 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE. YES.
IT'S A LONG TITLE ON THAT RESOLUTION. IT'S A HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE.
WE'RE RETHINKING THE STRATEGY OF HOW WE ZONE OUR HOUSING SITES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND WE'RE REPLACING THAT OVERLAY HOUSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY DESIGNATION WITH HIGH DENSITY, JUST STRAIGHT ZONING CATEGORIES OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
AND OUR HOUSING SITES, I'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF SLIDES WITH REALLY NICE AERIAL PHOTOS AND EXISTING AND PROPOSED DESIGNATIONS THAT COME FROM OUR GIS MANAGER, RYAN TUCKER, WHO'S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL IN PULLING THESE EXHIBITS TOGETHER.
AND I'LL MOVE ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND SIX CYCLE, OUR CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT 2021 TO 2029.
IT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN BY CITY COUNCIL JULY 5, 2022.
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SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THAT SAME YEAR, 2022. AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING ELEMENT, IT'S ALL THINGS HOUSING IDENTIFIES ALL OUR HOUSING POLICIES, PROGRAMS AND IDENTIFIES THE SITES THAT ARE TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION OR RHNA THAT'S ASSIGNED BY SCAG DURING EVERY CYCLE.OUR HOUSING SITES THERE'S SIX OF THEM, THE NORTH TECH KINGSDALE SOUTH OF TRANSIT CENTER, THE SOUTH BAY MARCETPLACE. THERE'S 190TH STREET, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF 190TH STREET.
AND THEN THE FEDEX SITE, WHICH IS DOWN ON PCH.
AND I'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD EXHIBITS THAT WILL WALK US THROUGH THAT.
SO WHEN THE HOUSING ELEMENT GETS IMPLEMENTED, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OR WHEN IT GETS ADOPTED, THEN THERE'S A LOT OF FOLLOW UP IMPLEMENTATION.
AND THE CITY DID BASICALLY THE MAJORITY, UP TO 90% OF IT BACK IN 2024 NOT TOO LONG AGO IN NOVEMBER. AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF HOUSING DEFINITIONS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE, MUNICIPAL CODE INCREASED DENSITY AT A FEW PLACES. THE RH ONE AND RH TWO ALONG PCH WENT FROM 28 TO 30.
NOT A MAJOR JUMP. THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME DECREASES IN DENSITY AT SOME OF OUR MIXED USE ZONING DESIGNATIONS FROM 35 TO 30 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. AND THEN THERE'S A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT STREAMLINE HOUSING REVIEW AND PROCESSING.
NAMELY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A OR WE DID HAVE A REQUIREMENT, ANYTHING ABOVE A THREE UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO FOUR UNITS AND UP THAT USED TO HAVE TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOW.
THE, THE LIMIT WAS RAISED TO 15, UP TO 15 UNITS CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AND THEN A LARGER DEVELOPMENT OVER 15 UNITS WOULD COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS AN ADDED PROVISION THAT SAID, IF YOUR PROJECT INCLUDES 20% AFFORDABLE, YOU GO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. SO AND THOSE ARE ALL THOSE STREAMLINING OPTIONS ARE LAID OUT IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY ZONE ON THOSE EXISTING SIX SITES.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? SO THIS IS, AGAIN, IT'S RETHINKING THE STRATEGY FOR HOW WE PROVIDE OUR HOUSING ON OUR DESIGNATED HOUSING SITES. IT GIVES IT MORE CERTAINTY TO HAVE JUST A SPECIFIC ZONE RATHER THAN THE OVERLAY ZONE WHICH ALLOWS THE UNDERLYING DESIGNATION TO CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
AND THEN IF A NEW PROJECT COMES IN, THEN IT HAS TO DO HOUSING.
SO THE OTHER REASON IS IT'S IN RESPONSE TO A RECENT COURT DECISION.
SO HERE WE ARE. THIS IS JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY.
THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, IT'S AGAIN REPLACING THAT RESIDENTIAL OVERLAY PROGRAM WITH SPECIFIC ZONING DESIGNATIONS FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE RECENT COURT DECISION WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE NORTH TECH SITE.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT SITE BEING REMOVED, THE DENSITIES ON THE REMAINING SITES HAD TO BE INCREASED.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE, THE REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE TO THESE HOUSING SITES IS THE OVERLAY GOES AWAY, THE DENSITY GOES UP FROM 55 TO 65 ON FOUR OF THE FIVE SITES, AND IT GOES UP TO 80 ON THE SOUTH BAY MARCETPLACE SITE.
AND I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE BASIC SLIDES ON THAT.
LET'S SEE. AND THEN SO THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE, STICKING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ESTABLISHES THESE NEW DESIGNATIONS, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE ZONES REPLACES THE OVERLAY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN AGAIN, ONCE WE DO THIS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WE'VE GOT TO GO TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT.
WE'VE GOT TO GO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
AND ALL THIS STUFF HAS TO BE CONSISTENT. SO FOR REALLY NOT A HUGE CHANGE IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, KIND OF A RETHINKING OF THE STRATEGY IT IS A LOT OF DOMINOES FALL AFTER THAT.
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AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN A LOT OF WAYS.FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU'LL SEE IT, I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH IT FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WERE FOR THE AHO THE OVERLAY ZONE, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE ON THESE NEW ZONING DESIGNATIONS, WITH THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE BEING THE DENSITY GETTING BUMPED UP.
AND THEN SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE.
WE'LL, SINCE 2022, WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS COME THROUGH AND WE WANTED TO GET UPDATE THE PIPELINE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM THERE, YOU KNOW, 401 SOUTH PCH 122 NORTH PCH.
AND THEN WE HAD TO TWEAK THE TABLES TABLE H 42 AND TABLE H 43.
SO THOSE WERE UPDATED. AND THEN A BIG PART OF THIS, OF COURSE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS IS WAS WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH HCD AND VERONICA TAM, WHO'S WHO WAS ON ZOOM BUT UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE RIGHT NOW.
SHE'S COORDINATED MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH HCD.
WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM A HANDFUL OF TIMES.
AND THEY HAVE ULTIMATELY AS OF FRIDAY, THE DAY THE PACKET WENT OUT, THEY ISSUED A LETTER SAYING THIS DRAFT AMENDMENT DOES NOT IMPACT THE SEPTEMBER 1, 2022 FINDING OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE.
AND THEN AS SOON AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE ELEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO COMPLY WITH STATE HOUSING ELEMENT LAW ONCE THE REZONING, WHICH IS PART OF THIS PACKET GETS COMPLETED AND IMPLEMENTED.
AND WE'RE QUEUING THIS UP FOR APRIL 14TH WITH COUNCIL.
AND THESE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO GET TOO DEEP ON THE DETAILS.
IF EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED ON THE PACKET THESE ARE THE NEW CATEGORIES IN THE DRAFT LAND USE ELEMENT, THE VERY HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE TWO MIXED USE CATEGORIES, MIXED USE HOUSING REQUIRED AND MIXED USE TRANSIT CENTER HOUSING REQUIRED.
OKAY. I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE HAVE TO PAUSE THE MEETING AND WE MAY HAVE TO CONTINUE IT.
THIS IS OKAY. STILL HAVING PROBLEMS? LET ME SEE.
OKAY. I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE, I'VE GOT TO MAKE A QUICK PHONE CALL AND.
A MOTION TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NO. VERY GOOD. BUT ALL THAT WAS. SO I GUESS WE HAVE TO RETURN FROM BREAK.
SO TO CONFIRM WE'RE CONTINUING THE ITEM WHERE WE LEFT OFF.
WE DON'T HAVE TO RESET THE MEETING TO AN EARLIER POINT.
OKAY. THAT'S A MOTION TO RE. REOPEN THE MEETING.
START. RESTART NOT RESTART, BUT CAN CONTINUE.
CONTINUE THE MEETING. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. RECONVENE IS WHAT I MEANT.
YEAH. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. WE'RE RECONVENING. THANK YOU CHAIR.
WE'RE BACK ON THE SLIDES FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE.
AND THESE ARE THE CHANGES TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT AND LAND USE CATEGORIES IN THE DRAFT LAND USE ELEMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
THE VERY HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THE RVH.
AGAIN, THE DENSITY IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGING IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY FROM THE OLD AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY DESIGNATION. IT GOES UP TO 65 THAT AND I'LL WAIT FOR THE ILLUSTRATIONS BECAUSE THEY REALLY SHOW WHERE THESE ALL APPLY.
THE MIXED USE HOUSING REQUIRED THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE NEW LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
AND THEN THE MIXED USE TRANSIT CENTER HOUSING REQUIRED IS THE OTHER NEW LAND USE DESIGNATION.
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AND THEN HERE'S THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REVISIONS.SO WITH EVERY LAND USE DESIGNATION, YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT ZONING DESIGNATION.
AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT MATCH UP WITH THAT PRIOR SLIDE.
SO INSTEAD OF WHEN IT GOES FROM GENERAL PLAN TO ZONING, THE RVH GOES TO RH4 THE MUH GOES TO MUH ZONE. SO IT'S THE SAME. AND THEN THE MUTCH THAT THE CONSISTENT ZONING WITH THAT IS OUR CRH ZONING CATEGORY.
AND THIS IS THE OLD AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY ZONE.
THOSE ALL MATCH. FOR EXAMPLE, HERE'S THE AHO ZONING FOR THE SOUTH BAY MARCETPLACE, 90FT HIGH AND SEVEN STORIES.
AND THEN HERE IT IS, THE SAME 90FT AND SEVEN STORIES.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE VISUALS THAT'LL REALLY, YOU KNOW, HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION.
SO THIS IS THE NORTH TECH HOUSING SITE. AND THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING.
I JUST WENT TO THE ZONING CATEGORY. THE EXISTING ZONING IS THE C4 WITH THE AHO OVERLAY AND THEN THE SLIDE ON THE RIGHT SINCE THAT'S BEING REMOVED FROM THE HOUSING ELEMENT AS A HOUSING SITE, THE AHO GOES AWAY AND IT JUST GOES REVERTS TO THE C4. GOT IT. THIS IS THE KINGSDALE HOUSING SITE.
THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING ZONING.
IT'S C4 AND RH3 WITH THE HOUSING OVERLAY. AND NOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO IS MUH ON WHAT WAS THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND RH4. AND THAT'S THE NEW PROPOSED ZONING.
NO MORE OVERLAY AND THE DENSITY INCREASES FROM 55 TO 65 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
HERE'S THE SOUTH OF TRANSIT CENTER AGAIN THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING ZONING.
IT'S GOT THE AHO, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT IT'S THE NEW ZONING.
AND THAT'S RH4. AND IT'S 55 TO 65 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THEN HERE'S THE THE 190TH STREET, AHO ZONE.
AND IT'S, I'VE GOT IT IN TWO SEPARATE SLIDES BECAUSE IT'S, IT COVERS A BIG AREA AND IT GOT TOO SMALL, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE I2 WITH THE YELLOW BOUNDARY ON THE LEFT.
AND THE I2, YOU KNOW, OVER BY MARY ANN DRIVE THAT'S GOT THE AHO AND THEN OVER ON THE CORNER OF HAWTHORNE AND 190TH IS C2 WITH THE AHO AND THAT'S EXISTING ZONING.
AND THEN HERE IT IS WITH THE REPLACING OF THE AHO WITH THE R4 ZONE AND RH4.
EXCUSE ME. AND IT'S THIS AREA HERE. AND THIS SAME AREA.
AND THEN OVER ON THE CORNER OF HAWTHORNE AND 190TH.
AND THEN HERE'S THE CR EXISTING CR ZONE WITH THE AHO IN BOTH THESE AREAS.
AND THEN IC. AND THEN IT'S GOING TO THIS IS SOUTH BAY MARCETPLACE.
IT'S GOING TO THE CR H AND CRH AND THIS ONE GOES FROM THE 55 DWELLING UNITS.
THIS IS WHERE THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN DENSITY.
IT GOES UP TO 80 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN THIS LOCATION.
AND THEN THIS IS THE FEDEX SITE, THE SOUTH REDONDO SITE ON PCH.
IT'S THE MU3A CURRENTLY WITH THE AHO. AND THEN WHAT'S IT'S CHANGING TO IS WE LOSE THE AHO AND IT GOES TO MUH AND AGAIN 55 TO 65. BUT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME FOUR STORIES AND 45FT FOR RESIDENTIAL. AND WE DID YOU KNOW, WE WERE CONCERNED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUR EIR THAT WE WERE THAT CERTIFIED WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. WE HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT PLACE WORKS, LOOK AT IT REALLY CLOSELY AND IT ALL BALANCED OUT BECAUSE WE
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LOST THE NORTH TECH SITE. SO THEY WERE CONFIDENT THAT THE SCOPE OF THESE CHANGES WAS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS ANALYZED ORIGINALLY AND CERTIFIED. AND THE ADDENDUM IS ATTACHED TO THE PACKET TONIGHT FOR THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION. AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE CHANGES WOULD NOT RESULT IN PHYSICAL IMPACTS THAT DIFFER FROM THE APPROVED PROJECT THAT WAS EVALUATED PRIOR. AND WHEN THAT CERTIFIED EIR WAS DONE, AND IT WOULDN'T TRIGGER THE NEED FOR THE PREPARATION OF A SUBSEQUENT SUPPLEMENTAL EIR, AND THE MODIFIED PROJECT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE ASSUMPTIONS MADE UNDER THE ORIGINAL EIR.SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVE ALL TESTIMONY AND WRITTEN MATERIALS ACCEPT TESTIMONY FROM STAFF AND THE PUBLIC. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DELIBERATE AND THEN ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED HOUSING ELEMENT AND THE AMENDMENTS TO THE DRAFT LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE AMENDMENTS TO THE SUBDIVISION AND ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, MR. BOSWELL.
SO YOU ASKED FOR QUESTIONS? YES. OH I'M SORRY IS IT NOW.
DOUG, I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE THE MOUSE IS NOW THE INDICATOR.
SHE HAD HER MOUSE UP FIRST. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE, WOULD YOU ASK YOUR FIRST QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION. WE NEED A BETTER METHOD. WE DO, WE DO.
THIS IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD. NOT MUCH. SO THE 20% AFFORDABLE DOESN'T COME IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANYMORE IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? AND CAN I GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION? YEAH, THAT CAME FROM AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PART OF A PROGRAM IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT TO STREAMLINE FUTURE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. AND THEN IT'S CONTAINED WITHIN THE CURRENT AHO ZONING REGULATIONS.
IT'S A TIER TWO. THERE'S A TIER ONE AND TIER TWO.
AND ANYTHING THAT TIER TWO, YOU QUALIFY FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
IF YOU INCORPORATE 20% OF THE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE LAW. SO THAT'S STATE LAW.
YEAH. OKAY. YES. AND THEN YEAH, BECAUSE ACTUALLY MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN AT ABOUT 10% ANYHOW, AREN'T THEY? IT SEEMS LIKE WE USUALLY. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE LIKE, YEAH, YEAH.
GET ABOUT TEN. 7 TO 10. YEAH. THEY VARY, BUT THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
OKAY. SO OKAY, OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
MR. BOSWELL. SO IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RIGHT.
TO BE COMPLIANT AND WITH STATE HOUSING LAW? ESSENTIALLY, YES.
SO DO WE. IS THERE SOME REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE.
BUILDERS REMEDY. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, RIGHT? YES. YEAH. OKAY. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
THE PHRASE THAT STICKS IN MY MIND IS LOST THE NORTH TECH SITE.
WELL, IT'S STILL THERE. WHAT CHANGED? I MEAN, IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE HOUSING THERE FROM THE LOOKS OF THE MAP AND THE LETTERS THAT ARE BEING THROWN AROUND. BUT WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN BY LOST THE NORTH TECH SITE.
AND IS THERE OR IS THERE NOT GOING TO BE HOUSING OR HOW HAS THAT CHANGED EXACTLY? YEAH, IT THAT WAS PART OF THE RECENT COURT DECISION AND THAT WAS ISSUED MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO NOW. AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THAT SITE WASN'T QUALIFIED AND CONSISTENT WITH STATE HOUSING ELEMENT LAW TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A HOUSING SITE.
SO THERE CAN BE NO HOUSING THERE. WELL, IT CAN'T THE SPECIFICS OF THE OF THE RULING.
I CAN'T REALLY GET INTO THE INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE OPINION OF THE COURT, THERE WAS LEASE ISSUES THAT THEY CONSIDERED WOULDN'T MAKE THAT SITE AVAILABLE DURING THIS CYCLE.
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FLOOR. THAT WAS THE COURT'S DETERMINATION. SO, AND THE LANDOWNER DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? THE LANDOWNER WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGNATION.PROVIDED LETTERS. THE PROPER USE OF HIS OWN LAND.
THERE'S AN EXISTING LEASE, YOU KNOW. YEAH. IN FACT, THE LANDLORD PROVIDED LETTERS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE IT AT OTHER LOCATIONS. THE COURT ISN'T PREVENTING IT FROM HAPPENING.
THEY'RE PREVENTING IT FROM US USING IT TOWARD OUR RHNA COUNT.
SO IT'S IN THIS CYCLE. IT'S YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY IT COULD BE AVAILABLE AT A SUBSEQUENT CYCLE WITH.
RIGHT THE HOUSING ACCOUNTING ISSUE MORE THAN A PRACTICAL BARRING OF HOUSING, IT WAS A RHNA ISSUE.
OH CORRECT? YES. SO YEAH. OUR NEXT GOVERNOR HOPEFULLY FIXES THIS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I GUESS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK WE HAVE. OH, YEAH. COMMISSIONER CONROY HAD A MOUSE UP.
OH, PRIOR MOUSE. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THE COURT FOUND TWO SPECIFIC PROBLEMS WITH OUR LAST APPROACH THAT BEING THE REQUIREMENT THAT HOUSING SITES GUARANTEE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF HOUSING. AND THE RULE ABOUT HOW LOWER INCOME SITES ARE DESIGNATED.
HOW DOES THIS NEW APPROACH FIX BOTH OF THOSE? IT DOES PROVIDE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR FUTURE HOUSING, AND ALSO A 50% MINIMUM FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE 50% OF ITS FLOOR AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
WHAT WAS THE OTHER RELATES TO HOW THE LOWER INCOME SITES ARE DESIGNATED.
IT'S NOW STRAIGHT. LIMITED. NEW DESIGNATIONS THAT REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, HALF THE NEW ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPMENT.
WOULD HAVE TO BE HOUSING. OKAY. AND THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S IN THERE. AND THEN ON THE SITE ZONE, PURELY RESIDENTIAL DOES IT STATE THAT COMMERCIAL USES ARE PROHIBITED? IT DOES NOT. BUT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
IT'S A PERMISSIVE ORDINANCE. BECAUSE I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO TESTS FROM THE RULING.
YEAH. IF IT'S NOT SO, YES, IT DOES, BUT IT DOESN'T EXPLICITLY SAY THERE'S NO OTHER.
SO BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE TO WRITE A ZONING CODE THAT SAID IN THIS DESIGNATION, HERE'S ALL THE THINGS YOU CAN DO AND HERE'S ALL THE THINGS YOU CAN'T DO. AND THOSE LISTS WOULD BECOME.
SO YOU'RE CONFIDENT WE'D MEET BOTH THOSE TESTS FROM THE RULING? YES. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, IN ADDITION TO WE HAVE AT LEAST, AGAIN, CONFIRMATION FROM ACD THAT OUR PROGRAM DOES MATCH THAT AS WELL.
AND IT'S SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT NOTHING'S CHANGED WITH THOSE TYPE THINGS.
THAT'S CORRECT. YES. YEAH. WE WERE REALLY CONSCIOUS TO, YOU KNOW, AND WE DID A LOT OF MODELING TO SEE, WELL, CAN WE GET THE NEW DENSITIES INTO THESE SAME BUILDING ENVELOPES? AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN. WITH THOSE HEIGHTS. WITH THOSE SAME LIMITS.
I HAD A FOLLOW UP, COMMISSIONER CONROY. YEAH. YOU MENTIONED THE OVERLAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FROM THE OLD OVERLAY APPROACH STILL COVERS WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO NOW. WHICH IS TO PERMANENTLY CHANGE THESE SITES TO RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE AT A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY.
WELL, IT WAS STILL THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT ANALYZED THE PROJECTS AS IF THEY HAD FULLY BUILT OUT WITH RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WAS COMMON. YOU'RE LOOKING AT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, KIND OF A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE EVENT, ESPECIALLY ON PROPERTIES WHERE YOU'RE PROMOTING A PARTICULAR USE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH KIND OF THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT OF THAT PROPERTY.
BUT THE ORIGINAL, DIDN'T THE ORIGINAL VIEW ASSUME THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONES IN PLACE AND JUST ADDING A HOUSING OPTION ON TOP, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW, WHICH IS HOUSING IS A PRIMARY USE WITH UP TO 80 UNITS PER ACRE.
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I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE SAME. NO, IT'S THE SAME.FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, IT'S THE SAME BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT INTENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. WE ASSUMED THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE BUILD OUT METHODOLOGY IN THE FOR THE EIR WAS THAT IT WOULD CONVERT TO HOUSING.
FULLY HOUSING. TO PURELY HOUSING OR HOUSING DENSITY.
MIXED USE, BECAUSE WE STILL ALLOW MIXED USE ON THOSE ON SOME OF THOSE SITES.
OKAY. I ONLY ASK BECAUSE THE DENSITY GETS PRETTY HIGH AT SOME POINT, AND I'M JUST SO PART OF THE EIR THAT'S IN PLACE YOU'RE SAYING IT ACCOUNTS FOR THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE DID WE KIND OF TOOK AWAY FROM ONE AREA AND ADDED IN OTHERS.
SO IT NETTED OUT THE OVERALL BUILD OUT OF THE HOUSING UNITS IS ROUGHLY THE SAME.
ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SHOULD WE OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAVE ONE MORE.
ONE MORE. YOU SAID YOU HAD TO. THEY'RE ALL DONE.
I WAS SHARING THE. YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR MOUSE UP AND NOW YOU'RE.
YOU'RE FIBBING. ALL RIGHT. OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE EARLIER, TOO. SO HAVE WE GONE BACK AND CHECKED EVERY HOUSING SITE THAT CURRENTLY HAS A BUSINESS ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE CAN ACTUALLY BE REDEVELOPED DURING THE PLANNING PERIOD? YEAH. WE HAVE DONE SOME OUTREACH. WE DID WHAT WE DID TOO WAS AND I DIDN'T PRESENT IT AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BUT WE BUILT IN SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LEGAL NON-CONFORMING PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, WHICH BASICALLY GUARANTEE IN THE EVENT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY ARE BURNED DOWN, THEY CAN BUILD EXACTLY THE BACK, EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.
SO THERE'S, THEY'RE PROTECTED TO CONTINUE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THAT RESPECT.
SO ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY OF THESE SITES? BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTIES? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OPEN MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? START WITH A SPEAKER CARD. SPEAKER CARD. YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD NEXT TO YOU NEXT TO. OKAY.
SORRY. AND JESS MONEY, PLEASE COME DOWN AND WE'RE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT.
HIS MIC ISN'T ON. YES, HIS MIC ON. JESS MONEY DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS ALL A DELUSIONAL THEATER EXERCISE. NONE OF THE DESIGNATIONS HERE EVEN HAVE ANY LEGAL BINDING EFFECT IN THE END. BACK IN 2010, WE PASSED MEASURE DD.
I COLLECTED 563 SIGNATURES TO GET IT ON THE BALLOT.
FLASH FORWARD A COUPLE YEARS AGO, OUR SCUMBAG MAYOR, JIM LIGHT, OUR SCUMBAG WEASEL, CITY ATTORNEY GENE AND CITY TREASURER GENE SOLOMAN, AND OUR CLASSIC BETRAYER, NILS NEHRENHEIM PUSHED THROUGH MEASURE RB, AND IT WAS BILLED AS ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER. IT'S GOING TO REFLECT HOW MONEY IS ACTUALLY HANDLED.
IN IT, IT HAD A VERY SMALL STEALTH REPEAL OF DD THAT WAS CITED BY THE JUDGE IN THE DTLA LAWSUIT, AND I'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT LAWSUIT LAYING ON MY KITCHEN TABLE RIGHT NOW, SO I'M NOT TALKING OUT OF MY HAT.
THE IMPORTANT THING IS THE CONSTITUTION FORBIDS EX POST FACTO LAWS, DD PRECEDED THE STATE MANDATES.
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NOW THE DD HAS BEEN VOIDED. WE CANNOT EVER, EVER, EVER PASS ANOTHER INITIATIVE LIKE THAT TO EXERCISE LOCAL ZONING CONTROL AND ALL THESE DESIGNATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD UP THERE, AND HEIGHT LIMITS AND UNIT LIMITS ARE MEANINGLESS BECAUSE A DEVELOPER CAN GO TO COURT AND GET WHATEVER HE WANTS.YOU DON'T THINK SO? LOOK AT MANHATTAN BEACH. THERE'S AN 18 STORY PROJECT THAT'S IN THE WORKS THAT'S GOING TO GO UP NEXT TO POLLIWOG PARK. THERE'S A SEVEN STORY, 62 UNIT BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON ON THE CORNER OF SECOND AND SEPULVEDA.
ANY DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO CAN GO TO COURT. THE AES SITE THAT WE ALL WORK SO HARD FOR, MEASURE C IS WORTHLESS NORTH OF THE AES SITE. FARTHER SOUTH, THE VIEW CORRIDORS AND SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT WAS IN MEASURE C.
YEAH THAT'S APPLICABLE. IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT 50 STORY BUILDINGS, A DOZEN OF THEM ON THE AES SITE, WE CANNOT STOP THEM. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD STAND IN THE WAY IS IF GEOLOGICAL ANALYSIS INDICATED THAT THE SOIL THERE WOULD NOT SUPPORT THOSE BUILDINGS STRUCTURALLY.
THERE IS NOTHING LEGALLY OR ADMINISTRATIVELY WE CAN DO.
AND MOST OF YOU WELL-MEANING PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOU, YOU DIRTBAG.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DEVIOUS PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.
I'M SORRY. HE'S HAVING A GOOD LAUGH. I'M SORRY BUT PLEASE STAY TO THE ISSUES THANK YOU. SO, ANYWAY, I'VE HAD MY SAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS ALL AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY, AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE ONE. TIME. PERMISSION TO EXTEND.
PARDON ME. MOTION TO EXTEND. I CAN'T HEAR. I'M HARD OF HEARING.
HE SAID, MOTION TO EXTEND AND I'LL SECOND IT IF YOU WANT MORE TIME.
JUST A COUPLE POINTS. IT'S NEVER BEEN THIS. IT'S NOT HERE.
IT'S NOT BEEN EXTENDED. OH, THERE'S NO EXTENSION.
HE SAYS IT'S NOT A BIG CHANGE. OKAY. NOT A BIG THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TO VOTE.
BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS HAVE WON. CORRUPTION IS.
ALWAYS VOTED FOR EXTENSION. CORRUPTION. NEVER VOTED.
WE HAVE DONE IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. YES WE HAVE.
THAT'S TRUE. WE ALSO HAVE TWO ECOMMENTS, ONE OPPOSING AND ONE NEUTRAL.
OKAY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES. JAAMAL, WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE'D YOU GET THOSE? ARE THOSE ECOMMENTS YOU SAID? OKAY. YEAH, THOSE ARE ECOMMENTS. WE JUST GOT ANOTHER CALL FROM MARC AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON GRANICUS, THERE IS THE BROADCAST ISSUE. SO FOR TECHNICAL REASONS, WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS AS A, YOU KNOW, TO A DATE CERTAIN FOR A SPECIAL MEETING, JUST THIS ITEM.
OKAY. BUT EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IS THROWN OUT, RIGHT? NO IT'S NOT. OKAY, SO THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR ITEM J.2? THIS WOULD BE JUST FOR ITEM J.2 BECAUSE OF THE TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH THE AND LACK OF ZOOM FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. WE ARE.
BUT WE HAVE THE SAME THING IN EFFECT WITH J.1 THOUGH TOO.
WE DID, BUT I THINK WORTH. BUT NO ONE CARES. WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT PROJECT.
PEOPLE EMAIL IN IF THEY WERE WATCHING THIS OTHER THING, BUT THEY CAN'T ZOOM IN.
THEY CAN'T NO. SO BECAUSE WE'RE BACK TO THE 24TH OR.
SO, WE'RE BACK TO SETTING A DATE. YEAH. AND WE COULD EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TUESDAY IF POSSIBLE, WE'RE FINE TO DO THAT. I'M GONE NEXT TUESDAY.
OKAY. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU CAN BE HERE NEXT TUESDAY.
THAT'S THREE. THAT'S FOUR. WE HAVE QUORUM. CHECK WITH.
WHAT OTHER DAYS ARE THERE? THAT'D BE PROBABLY THE TUESDAY FOLLOWING.
THE 31ST, I COULD BE HERE FOR THAT. YEAH. BUT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT SUPER QUICK.
WELL THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY WORKING TODAY. YEAH.
SO NEXT TUESDAY NOT GOOD FOR ME. I'VE BEEN UP TO MY NECK IN TAX SEASON.
A WEEK LATER WOULD DEFINITELY BE BETTER FOR ME.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. I CAN'T MAKE NEXT WEEK, SO I'M WITH.
HE CAN'T EVEN GO NEXT WEEK. SO ANY OF YOU FOR ABLE TO DO THE 31ST.
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YEAH. BUT I THINK THE CITY IS TRYING TO GET IT DONE QUICK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF CITY.WELL TOO BAD. SO IF WE CAN HAVE FOUR NEXT TUESDAY, THEN WE CAN HOLD A MEETING.
YEAH. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT.
WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF ROOM IN CASE ONE OF YOU FOUR COULDN'T MAKE IT, SO.
WELL, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE QUORUM AND IT DOESN'T OCCUR. THEN IT GETS. NO, IT DOESN'T OCCUR.
NEXT TUESDAY. YEAH. WHY DON'T WE GO WITH THE SURE BET ON THE 31ST? BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WHEN? ON THE 14TH OF APRIL. THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
BUT IT WOULD GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO PUT IT ON THE 14TH.
IF WE DID IT ON THE AGENDA. IF IT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S UP TO THE. YEAH WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OTHER CONSTRAINTS ARE THAT WE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERWISE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN WORK WITHIN YOUR TIMELINE. IS IT OKAY TO DO IT THE 31ST? I YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'S OKAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M ACTUALLY PUTTING THE NOTICE FOR THE 14TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU KNOW, NOW. OKAY. SO I THINK IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE EITHER TUESDAY.
SO 6:30 ON THE 31ST. WELL, IT'S DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO ONE TO DO THE 31ST VERSUS THE 27TH OR 24TH OR WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I THINK I'M FEELING LIKE SOMETHING.
I CAN DO EITHER ONE. MY PREFERENCE IS TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S MY PREFERENCE TO BE HERE. IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO PANDER TO SEAN.
IT'S OUR JOB TO TRY TO GET AS MANY COMMISSIONERS IN HERE.
AS SEAN. SHE JUST MADE IT ABOUT SEAN. OH, SEAN WANTS IT RIGHT AWAY.
OKAY, LET'S KEEP DECORUM HERE. OKAY, LET'S KEEP PROPER DECORUM.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY.
WE ARE TYING THE HANDS OF THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
SEVEN IN THE BODY, SO THAT THE CITY IS WELL REPRESENTED ACROSS ITS GEOGRAPHY.
WE ARE AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FACILITATE ACTIONS WITH THE CITY.
SO THAT'S. SEAN'S CHECKING SOMETHING. HE WANTS ME TO CALL HIM.
OKAY. SHOULD WE TAKE A BRIEF? YEAH. CAN I TAKE.
MOTION TO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE, TEN MINUTE BREAK? YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CAN WE CUT CUT OUR MICS, PLEASE? YEAH. ONE MORE TIME. GOT IT. CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME THE MANUAL? YOU GOT IT. I KNOW HOW. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK EVERY TIME.
WE'RE GOOD, YOU GUYS. WE'RE GOOD. IT. HE HAD.
HE. WE'RE GOOD TO WRAP THIS UP AND CONTINUE IT.
YEAH. WITHOUT HAVING TO CONTINUE TO. NO NO NO.
I'M SORRY. YEAH. MARC. ONE MORE TIME. HOLD ON A SECOND.
NO, WE DO. WE CAN RESOLVE THIS TONIGHT. NO, NO, NO.
I'M SORRY. WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE IT. OKAY. YES, YES, I APOLOGIZE.
WE'RE GOOD TO CONTINUE. NOT GOOD TO CONTINUE.
WE'RE BACK FROM BREAK. SO IT'S THE 24TH THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO.
HEY GUYS, GUYS, LET'S ALL TALK TOGETHER. WE ALL TALK TOGETHER HERE.
SO THEY COULD PROCEED WITH THIS AND NOT BE DELAYED.
SO WE HAVE TWO DATES THAT ARE BEING THROWN OUT.
ONE IS BEING THE WHAT, THE 24TH OR THE 31ST. ARE BOTH OF THOSE DATES.
WORKS BEST FOR THE CITY? FOR THE CITY. YOU KNOW I THINK THE 31ST MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO YOU KNOW, DO ADDITIONAL. WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTICE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO YES. YEAH. AND THE EITHER OF THOSE DATES WILL BE OKAY TO GET IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE 14TH OF APRIL. OKAY. SO SO 31ST. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO HOLD THE MEETING ON THE 31ST? SECOND. DO WE HAVE THAT MOTION? NO. I NEED TO GET SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.
AS I'M SAYING, YOU CAN MAKE IT. I THOUGHT YOU MADE IT.
SECOND. 31ST OF MARCH 30TH 1ST OF MARCH. MARCH.
THEY WOULD. MAY WOULD BE BETTER. I GOT THE FIRST LETTER RIGHT.
COME ON. I SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CONTINUE THIS MEETING SHALL BE CONTINUED.
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IT'LL BE 6:30 TO A SPECIAL MEETING. SPECIAL MEETING ON PLANNING COMMISSION, MARCH 31ST.THANK YOU, ROGER. IT'S GOING TO BE MAY. I'M COMING BACK MAY 31ST.
MARCH 31ST AT 6:30. ALRIGHTY. WELL, IT'S BEEN FUN.
RIGHT? WHO KNOWS? YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MARCH 31ST.
MARCH 31ST. NOT MAY. OKAY. LIKE YOU SAID. SO IT'S.
WE'RE JUST CONTINUING IT. SORRY ABOUT THAT, YOU GUYS.
OKAY. YEAH. PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN. THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S QUITE POSSIBLE. YOU CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA, AND WE CAN. IT'S JUST THAT ITEM. WELL, IF NEED BE, WE'LL FIND OUT BY THAT DATE.
RIGHT. SO IF WE HAVE TO RESET. SO. YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE JUST LEAVE IT OPEN. THAT'S IT. RIGHT.
YEAH, YEAH. IT'S STILL IT'S. YEAH. YOU DIDN'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? NO. OKAY. GOOD. WE CONTINUED. SO IT'S CONTINUED.
SO WE REALLY CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING UNTIL WE CLOSE THE MEETING.
YEAH. IT'S CORRECT ACTUALLY IT'S STILL OPEN. WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE. DO WE NO? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE LIKE ITEMS FROM STAFF OR SOMETHING? YEAH. STAFF QUESTION THINGS FOR STAFF OR ANY OF THAT STUFF.
WELL, I MEAN, IF WE'RE CONTINUING THE MEETING. OKAY. ARE WE NOW STOPPING THE MEETING AT THIS POINT? SO OKAY, SO WE HAVEN'T CLOSED SHUT THE MEETING DOWN YET ACTUALLY.
WELL, HE SAID WE'VE CONTINUED NOW BY US CONTINUING.
ABOUT CONTINUING THE MEETING, BUT KEEPING THAT AGENDA.
OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. PROCEEDING WITH THE MEETING.
OKAY. GALE. OKAY. SO WHAT HAPPENED IS WE EFFECTIVELY CONTINUED THAT AGENDA ITEM ONLY J.1.
GOTCHA. CLOSE THE REST OF THE MEETING. NOT THAT ITEM.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON J.2 ON THE 31ST.
AND NOW WE'RE NOW ON ITEM J. OKAY. OKAY, SO CONTINUING ALONG THAT LINE ITEM K WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS CONTINUE FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS FOR ANY DISCUSSION TO STAFF.
L I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE. ITEMS FROM STAFF. NOTHING TO REPORT.
COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.
ANYONE HAVE A. NOT SEEING ANY. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
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