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WE'LL START WITH OUR AGENDA. CALLING ME TO ORDER WILL DO.
ROLL CALL. JESSE COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. I AM HERE.
COMMISSIONER BAJAJ IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI.
HERE. COMMISSIONER BEELI. HERE. COMMISSIONER TSAO ABSENT.
CHAIR ARRATA ABSENT. AND VICE CHAIR ANDERSON? PRESENT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. SALUTE TO THE FLAG.
COMMISSIONER NAFISSI WANT TO LEAD US? ABSOLUTELY.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU MUCH. WE'LL DO THE APPROVED THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
IS THAT JUST A GROUP VOTE? WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.THEN JUST A VOICE VOTE. I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDER, THE AGENDA.
I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NEXT UP, BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. JESSIE, DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? THERE ARE NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UP NEXT, THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ASSUMING WE NEED MOTIONS FOR THIS AS WELL.YES. ONE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSENT CALENDAR.
ANY ONLINE? THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THERE ARE NO ECOMMENTS. OKAY. MOTION. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
I SECOND THAT MOTION. APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. THERE ARE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS TONIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OFF TO ITEM H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.
[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
I DO HAVE ONE CARD FOR THAT ITEM. AND JIM MUELLER.THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION.
ALL THIS ANTICIPATES A LIVELY BUSINESS DISTRICT WITH MORE PEOPLE ON FOOT EN ARTESIA.
RECENT SURVEYS HAVE SHOWN THAT PEOPLE WANT A MORE WALKABLE ARTESIA BOULEVARD, BUT PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT NOW TO BE ON FOOT IN THE ARTESIA BUSINESS DISTRICT. THERE'S A NEW COMMUNITY BENEFIT NONPROFIT CALLED OUR NRB.
OUR NRB IS SPONSORING A WEEKLY PUBLIC MARKET.
WE ARE HOPING FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CROWD AROUND THAT ARTESIA INTERSECTION.
HOW SAFE WILL PEOPLE FEEL? IN RECENT SURVEYS, PEOPLE POINTED TO SPEEDING TRAFFIC, A DISTURBING NOISE LEVEL, NARROW SIDEWALKS AND LIMITED CROSSINGS AS MAJOR DISINCENTIVES TO BE ON FOOT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD.
HOW DOES ARTESIA MEASURE UP? THE SPEED LIMIT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD IS 35MPH, SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN OTHER STREETS IN BUSINESS DISTRICTS, WHERE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC IS GOING IN AND OUT OF THRIVING BUSINESSES.
WHAT ABOUT BUSINESS DEPENDED ON PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE SIDEWALK? CAN SUCCEED IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING THERE.
I HOPE YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS, CAN ELEVATE THIS ISSUE TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND WHATEVER ELSE IT TAKES TO START WORK ON ALTERING THE TRAFFIC ENVIRONMENT ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD TO MAKE IT MORE FRIENDLY TO PEDESTRIANS, BECAUSE THIS IS A KEY ISSUE IN REVITALIZING ARTESIA BOULEVARD BUSINESS DISTRICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO OTHER CARDS, THERE'S NO COMMENTS
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FROM ZOOM. MARK NELSON DID LEAVE A COMMENT AND HE WILL SPEAK.HI. MARK NELSON PROSPECT AVENUE RESIDENT. I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR GETTING THIS MOVE, THIS MEETING RUNNING. I DID NOT EXPECT TO WALK IN AT 7:05 AND ALREADY BE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THERE YOU GO. GOOD JOB. SO WHAT I DID WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE'D STILL LIKE TO GET THE CURB PAINTED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR CUTE LITTLE BUS STOP AT THE BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT CORNER ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
IT'S A, IT'S A ONE OF A KIND BUS STOP. IT'S GOT A ROAD ON EITHER SIDE OF IT.
I MEAN, IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT STRIP OF CONCRETE WITH A BENCH IN IT, AND THEN IT'S GOT BIG PROSPECTS ON ONE SIDE AND IT'S GOT THE ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE AREN'T ANY MORE LIKE THIS.
SOME OF THE ONES ON ARTESIA HAVE PARKING LOTS BEHIND THEM, BUT THAT'S NOT CITY JURISDICTION.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S PROBABLY DANGEROUS TOO.
BUT I SENT A COMMENT LAST NIGHT OR THIS MORNING BECAUSE WE HAD WE HAD AN UNHOUSED PERSON SLEEPING AT THE, AT THE, THE BUS STOP LAST NIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, WASN'T REALLY A PROBLEM.
IT'S NOT LIKE SOME OTHER NIGHTS WHERE THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, A 22 FOOT VAN PARKED THERE AND YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE THERE AND DRINKING AND WHATEVER. AND, YOU KNOW.
PROSPECTS ARE PRETTY BUSY ON FOOT STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
YOU'D BE SURPRISED. SO JUST WANTED TO GET THAT PAINTED.
YOU APPROVED IT LAST YEAR. IT JUST HASN'T GOTTEN DONE.
I ALSO TODAY WENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH A LETTER AND THE CITY MANAGER AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU JUST PLEASE LET THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PAINT THIS? IT JUST EXTRACTED FROM THE REST OF THE MASSIVE PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH WAS MORE PAINT AND JUST JUST PAINT THIS ONE FOR SAFETY.
SO SO I WANTED TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP THERE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED TO DO.
YOU'VE APPROVED THAT. THERE MAY NOT BE WITH REGARD TO TRUCK TRAFFIC ON PROSPECT, I DID WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PAPA JOHN'S TRUCK THAT HIT THE BUCKET TRUCK. HAVING SPENT 40 YEARS WITH BERKSHIRE ENERGY AND EDISON AND SEMPRA, YOU DON'T EVER PUT BUCKET TRUCKS ON FRONTAGE ROADS AND HANG OVER ROADS.
THOSE BUCKETS GET HIT ALL THE TIME. WHETHER THEY'RE DOING WHAT HE WAS DOING ON A CABLE LINE OR WHETHER YOU'RE THE CITY AND YOU'RE HANGING OVER SO THAT YOU CAN CHANGE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE IT, I THINK SO THAT CONTRACTORS SIMPLY DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE UNLESS THEIR COMPANY STOPS IT, IT'S HARD TO GET THERE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. STEVE HAGUE, 30 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT. JIM, I APPLAUD ALL YOUR MARKET WORKS.
I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT FOLKS, AS FAR AS ARTESIA.
I LIVE ONE BLOCK SOUTH. YOU KNOW THE SPEED LIMITS, YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES.
AND IF WE SLOW THEM DOWN TO MAKE IT WALKABLE.
JIM. VERY CLOSE TO WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE STARBUCKS PARKING LOT.
THE SIDEWALKS ARE SO TIGHT. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT WALKING? NOT TO MENTION PEOPLE WITH CELL PHONES. I HAVE I HAVE TWO CONCERNS.
ONE, PUBLIC SAFETY. I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT BY I CAN'T TELL YOU THE AMOUNT OF AMAZON DRIVERS OR OTHERS THAT THEY DON'T CARE WHERE THEY PARK, DOUBLE PARK, STOP.
YOU HAVE TO VEER AROUND THEM AND WHEN YOU VEER AROUND THEM.
I'VE BEEN ALMOST HIT AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES, PEOPLE SLAMMING ON THEIR BRAKES AND SO ON.
SO WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, IF YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH ARTESIA, IF YOU SLOW IT DOWN, THOSE CARS ARE GOING TO GO MULTIPLE BLOCKS TO THE SIDE. AND ALL THE STUDIES DONE HAVE BEEN ABOUT ARTESIA, NOT ABOUT THE BLOCKS NORTH OR SOUTH.
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SO THINK ABOUT THAT. IF YOU SLOW IT DOWN TEN MILES AN HOUR, THAT SHIFTS ALL THAT TRAFFIC TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH CHILDREN, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS NOT FAR, A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY.THE OTHER COMMENT IS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ARTESIA.
WE ALL HAVE A CELL PHONE. DO YOU GUYS ALL HAVE CELL PHONES? WAIT, ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE A CELL PHONE? PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TO THE COMMISSION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. THAT'S IT.
OKAY, I AM, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE UNDERSTOOD DUE TO THE CELL PHONES.
YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT IF YOU'RE OUT AT RESTAURANTS ANYWHERE ELSE.
I UNDERSTAND THE WANT, THE DESIRE AND SO ON TO MAKE IT WALKER WALKABLE, FRIENDLY.
THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF FOLKS. WHEN I MOVED IN, EVERY NEIGHBOR KNEW EACH OTHER.
NOW WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS A PLACE, THEY HAVE NO IDEA.
THE GARAGE DOOR OPENS, THEY ROLL IN, HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE.
SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL OF SAFETY. THANKS. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? JESSE. ANYONE ELSE? ONLINE POP UP? THERE IS NO. HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. OKAY. CLOSE H.1.
ITEM I ITEMS CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS AGENDAS.
THERE'S NO ITEMS TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM J ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION.
[J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
J.1. DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AT OPAL AND IRENA INTERSECTION.GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER. VICE CHAIR ANDERSON.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND HERE. WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM A RESIDENT IN EARLY MARCH 2026.
THEY HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ON OPAL STREET DRIVERS WHO WERE ON TORRANCE BOULEVARD, TURNING ONTO OPAL STREET TO GET TO PROSPECT WITHOUT HAVING TO REACH GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TO THE LIGHT AT PROSPECT.
CONCERNS ABOUT HIGH SPEED SAFETY CONCERNS, CROSSWALK CONCERNS, AND SPECIFICALLY AS SHOWN ON THIS MAP, DRIVERS MAKING FAST AND SHALLOW TURNS FROM TORRANCE ONTO OPAL DUE TO THE EXISTING GEOMETRY OF THE INTERSECTION.
WE WENT AND VISITED THE AREA AND WE ALSO NOTICED THAT YET DUE TO THE CLOSELY SPACED INTERSECTIONS WITH OPAL GOING EAST WEST HERE, IRENA GOING NORTH SOUTH AND TORRANCE UP AT THE TOP, THERE IS A POTENTIAL, AS SHOWN IN THE RED AND GREEN LINES, THAT DRIVERS, IF THEY IGNORE THE THE PAINT ON THE STREET AND START DRIVING THE WRONG WAY DOWN OPAL STREET, THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL TO, TO MAKE THOSE MANEUVERS AT HIGHER THAN DESIRED SPEED.
SO WE ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN ON IRENA HERE AT OPAL STREET.
WE FOUND THIS TO BE HIGHLY UNUSUAL BECAUSE THE SOUTHBOUND APPROACH DOES NOT HAVE A STOP.
WHAT YOU TYPICALLY EXPERIENCE AT A T INTERSECTION IS THE THROUGH RUNNING STREET USUALLY GETS THE RIGHT OF WAY, DOESN'T HAVE A STOP SIGN, AND THE STREET THAT'S TERMINATING DOES HAVE A STOP SIGN.
SO TO HAVE NORTHBOUND AND WESTBOUND STOP FOR SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL AND COULD BE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE HIGHER SPEEDS OF VEHICLES EXITING TORRANCE BOULEVARD.
SO WE DISCUSSED SOME POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS WITH THAT RESIDENT.
WE PROVIDED OUR SPEED CUSHION POLICY AND THE MATERIALS TO THAT RESIDENT.
THAT'S NOT THE TOPIC OF TONIGHT. THEY STILL NEED TO COLLECT THOSE SIGNATURES.
THE MAIN SOLUTION WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TONIGHT, SOMETHING WE CAN DO RELATIVELY QUICKLY IS CALLED CENTRAL LINE HARDENING AT OPAL AND IRENA, TO REDUCE THOSE TURNING SPEEDS, I'LL SHOW A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE.
WHAT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING IS TO REMOVE THE UNUSUAL NORTHBOUND STOP ON IRENA AT OPAL.
THIS STOP SIGN IS LESS THAN 100FT TO THE NEXT STOP SIGN.
WE SUSPECT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH CLOSELY SPACED STOP SIGNS, DRIVERS TEND TO NOT STOP AT EITHER OR ONE OF THEM AS AS LEGALLY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO, TO HAVE A THREE WAY STOP AT A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION IS PRETTY UNUSUAL.
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AND IF WE REMOVE THIS NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN, JUST, JUST THE NORTHBOUND STOP ON IRENA, THEN THE DRIVERS WHO ARE COMING FROM TORRANCE BOULEVARD, COMING SOUTH ON IRENA AND TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO OPAL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO YIELD TO THAT NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC LIKE A CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION.ONE THING WE DON'T RECOMMEND IS AN ALWAYS STOP AT OPAL IRENA.
THAT SOUTHBOUND APPROACH OF IRENA, YOU'RE JUST COMING OFF TORRANCE BOULEVARD, AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO PUT A STOP SIGN THERE TO FORCE AN IMMEDIATE STOP AT OPAL STREET. THIS IS A MAP OF THE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO CENTER LINE HARDENING IS A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE THAT'S QUITE COMMON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE SEE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THAT IN THE CITY OF LA, WHERE PHYSICAL VERTICAL MEASURES ARE PLACED ON TOP OF THE YELLOW CENTER LINE TO REINFORCE COMPLIANCE WITH THAT CENTER LINE. SO BY PUTTING THIS LINE OF DELINEATORS, AN EXAMPLE SHOWN ON THE LEFT HERE, YOU ARE FORCING THOSE RIGHT TURNS AND LEFT TURNS COMING FROM TORRANCE BOULEVARD.
TO CONDUCT THOSE MORE SLOWLY AND TO ENTER THE APPROPRIATE LANE.
SO AS YOU FOLLOW MY CURSOR HERE, YOU'RE MAKING THIS TURN AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT AT A SLOWER SPEED COMPARED TO BEFORE, WHEN YOU WERE KIND OF CROSSING OVER AND POTENTIALLY GOING THE WRONG WAY IN OPAL STREET TO MAKE THIS LEFT TURN.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING LESS VISUALLY IMPACTFUL, BUT STILL VERTICAL PHYSICAL MEASURES THAT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND TO HARDEN THE CENTER LINE ON OPAL STREET SO THAT THIS TURN, THIS LEFT TURN ONTO OPAL STREET IS CONDUCTED MORE LIKE A SHARPER S THAN A STRAIGHTER LINE.
WE ALSO SHOWED A THIRD MEASURE HERE, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS MORE OPTIONAL.
IT'S A, IT'S A NICE TO HAVE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO THE COMMISSION ON THEIR FEEDBACK FOR THIS SPECIFIC ITEM IS AN ADDITIONAL LOW PROFILE SPEED BUMP TO ALSO FORCE THAT SHARPER, SLOWER TURN ONTO OPAL STREET.
BUT IT'S MORE OF A NICE TO HAVE AND WE'RE STILL PROPOSING IT AS AN OPTION HERE.
AND I WOULD LIKE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE LAST MEASURE, AS I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, REMOVING THE STOP SIGN, THE NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN AND PAINT ON THE STREET.
WE'RE NOT OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL SPEED INCREASES, BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER STOP SIGN JUST LESS THAN 100FT AWAY, AND THERE'S ALSO A DRAINAGE DIP CROSS GUTTER ON ON IRENA AVENUE, JUST SOUTH OF THIS INTERSECTION THAT ACTS LIKE A DE FACTO SPEED BUMP FOR THE AREA. SO IT SHOULD SLOW DOWN DRIVERS BEFORE THEY REACH THIS INTERSECTION.
SO THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION.
WE RECOMMEND THAT STAFF INSTALL THE CENTERLINE HARDENING AT OPAL AND IRENA.
THE NEXT IS TO REMOVE THAT NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN AT OPAL STREET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RYAN. WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. HI, I'M TONY ACOSTA'S 700 OPAL, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
OPAL AND IRENA. SORRY I GOT HERE LATE. I THOUGHT I COULD COMMENT FROM ONLINE, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO.
SO I KIND OF REPRESENT THE PERSON ACROSS FROM US, THE PERSON NEXT DOOR TO US.
AND WE ALL LIKE ALL THE IDEAS, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT REMOVING THAT STOP SIGN GOING I GUESS IT'S NORTH ON OPAL BECAUSE PEOPLE DO RUN THAT QUITE A BIT. PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THERE, I SEE IT EVERY DAY.
AT LEAST 2 OR 3 PEOPLE JUST KIND OF JUST NOT EVEN STOP AND JUST KEEP GOING THROUGH THAT.
WE LOVE ALL THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS, BUT THAT WE ARE NOT REAL HAPPY ABOUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I WALK MY MOM SOMETIMES OR WE WALK ACROSS THAT AREA AND I WALK AROUND IN A WHEELCHAIR TO GO TO THE DOCTORS OVER AT OPTUM AND SOMETIMES I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO THAT. I'LL WALK ACROSS THAT AREA AND SOMETIMES I'LL KIND OF GO DIAGONAL AND PEOPLE ARE RIPPING AROUND TORRANCE ON TO IRENA OR EVEN COMING LEFT FROM TORRANCE BOULEVARD DOWN IRENA.
SO I LIKE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT REMOVING THAT STOP SIGN. PEOPLE ARE, WHAT ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING LIKE A SPEED BUMP RIGHT THERE SO THEY DON'T STOP? I MEAN, SO THEY DO STOP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. AND I THINK I REPRESENT 2 OR 3 OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
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THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC? HI, I'M BROOKE ABCARIAN. I LIVE AT 715 OPAL AND IT WAS MY HUSBAND WHO INITIALLY SUGGESTED MAKING IT LIKE A CUL DE SAC.JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING VERY QUICKLY AROUND THAT AREA.
AND SO I WOULD THINK THE MORE STOP LINES, THE BETTER.
BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND YOUR SUGGESTION AS WELL THAT MAYBE IF THERE'S TOO MANY THAT PEOPLE TEND NOT TO STOP, BUT YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN AN ISSUE. JUST HAVING LITTLE KIDS IN THAT AREA, PEOPLE DEFINITELY LIKE WHIP AROUND FROM TORRANCE ONTO IRENA SO ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED TO SLOW EVERYONE DOWN.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM J.1? I DO HAVE A ZOOM COMMENTS. CHRIS BOTHWELL YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. HI. I'M NEIGHBORS WITH BOTH TONY AND BROOKE THERE.
AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THAT. THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY IS THAT THAT STOP SIGN ON THE NORTHBOUND OF IRENA THERE. MY THOUGHTS ARE IF YOU REMOVE THAT AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO GO NORTH ON IRENA, PEOPLE COMING OFF OF TORRANCE ARE ARE EXPECTING THOSE PEOPLE TO STOP.
THAT'D BE MY MAIN CONCERN. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID IS ONE OF THE IDEAS I THOUGHT WAS PUTTING A SPEED BUMP IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF OPAL STREET, SO THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THAT TURN FROM TORRANCE ONTO IRENA AND THEN ONTO TO OPAL WOULD HAVE AN OBSTACLE THAT'S SLOWING THEM DOWN AS AFTER THEY MAKE THEIR S TURN ONTO OPAL, SO THAT WOULD REDUCE SPEED. I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT RATHER THAN A BUNCH OF YELLOW STICKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERKILL FOR THE SITUATION.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE OTHER HAND RAISED. ZACH DRUMMER. HI.
YEAH, THIS IS ZACH DRUMMER. AND MY WIFE, TRACY.
WE COULDN'T MAKE IT IN PERSON, BUT WE JUST WANT TO ADD OUR VOICES TO NOT TAKING OUT THAT STOP SIGN, EVEN THOUGH WE DO, LIKE THE OTHER PROPOSALS OFFERED.
PERSONALLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE IT TO CUT OFF THE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ENTER THE STREET FROM IRENA.
AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A WEIRD INTERSECTION AS IT IS, WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE STOP SIGN ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT YOU NEED TO KEEP THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BECAUSE THAT DOES HELP REDUCE SOME TYPE OF COLLISIONS THAT COULD OCCUR.
BUT YEAH, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO MY WIFE, SEE IF SHE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO ME.
YEAH. THE NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN REMOVAL FROM IRENA, I THINK IS JUST A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
AGAIN, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE WHIP OFF OF TORRANCE THINKING, OH, I'M JUST GOING TO WHIP ON THE SIDE STREET OF OPAL, AND THEY JUST COME AROUND THAT CORNER BLAZING.
AND IT'S, AND FOR THE RECORD, NO ONE, NO ONE ABIDES BY STOP SIGNS IN THIS AREA.
PERIOD. SORRY. SO I THINK THAT REMOVING A STOP SIGN WOULD REALLY NOT BE GREAT.
SO AGAIN, I THINK AT LEAST SOME SORT OF THOSE BARRIERS.
AGAIN, ULTIMATELY, I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO SHUT OPAL DOWN AS BEING A TWO WAY STREET.
IT'S NOT NECESSARY. I THINK A CUL DE SAC WOULD BE A WARM WELCOME TO EVERYONE ON THIS LITTLE SECTION.
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THERE'S LITERALLY SIX HOUSES AND LIKE ALL OF US HAVE KIDS.AND SO IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM PLAY IN THE STREET AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE JUST WHIPPING AROUND WITHOUT STOPPING. AND, OR IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A CROSSWALK ACROSS.
OH YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS TERRIFYING TO CROSS AT IRENA AND TORRANCE LIKE THERE'S NO CROSSWALK THERE WHATSOEVER. AND SO THAT'S ALSO REALLY SCARY. JUST TRYING AGAIN, WALKING TO OPTUM, WALKING TO THE BEACH, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S IT'S A SUPER SCARY INTERSECTION.
SO YEAH, LIMITING PEOPLE JUST KIND OF GOING AROUND THAT AREA WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE LIKE HE SAID, WE HAVE OLDER PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS. WE HAVE KIDS.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO JUST SHUT IT DOWN.
BUT THE, THE STOP SIGN REMOVAL I DEFINITELY AM AGAINST.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER HANDS RAISED.
THANK YOU. TO THE COMMISSIONERS. NAFISSI. DID YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO SEND A SURVEY TO THE RESIDENTS? SO WITH THIS THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES WE DIDN'T SEND A SURVEY TO RESIDENTS, WE WERE JUST RESPONDING TO THAT REQUEST.
WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL SURVEY PROCESS FOR THE TRAFFIC CALMING PIECES ITSELF.
I THINK THAT CAN GET A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, HEARING THE COMMENTS AND LOOKING AT THE, AT THE STOP SIGN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR SURVEYS TO, FOR PUTTING IN A STOP SIGN.
WE DIDN'T TAKE THIS LIGHTLY. YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T JUST SAY, LET'S JUST TAKE IT AWAY. ONE OF THE REASONS WE BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE COMING AROUND THAT CORNER SO QUICKLY IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO STOP FOR THEM.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM TORRANCE BOULEVARD, COMING ONTO IRENA AND THEN GOING INTO OPAL STREET, YOU KNOW THAT THOSE NORTHBOUND IRENA DRIVERS HAVE A STOP SIGN.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT REMOVAL SO THAT IF YOU'RE TURNING ONTO OPAL STREET, COMBINED WITH THESE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO SLOW DOWN THAT TURN THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TRAFFIC COMING UP FROM IRENA AND YIELDING TO THEM AS YOU WOULD AT ANY OTHER T INTERSECTION IN, IN, IN THE STATE. NOW WE LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF WHY THIS STOP SIGN IS HERE BECAUSE AS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT'S OUT THERE CURRENTLY IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL.
WE DON'T HAVE A T INTERSECTION WHERE ONLY ONE OF THE THROUGH STREETS HAS A STOP, BUT THE OTHER DIRECTION DOESN'T, AND IT'S UNCLEAR THE REASON WHY THIS STOP SIGN WAS HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT OPAL STREET DID EXTEND WEST FROM THIS INTERSECTION.
AND PERHAPS THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THERE WAS A STOP SIGN PUT ON IRENA, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE PROBABLY GOING 35MPH ONTO OPAL STREET, AND THERE WERE NO STOP SIGNS IN THE EAST WEST DIRECTION A LONG TIME AGO EITHER.
THAT WESTBOUND STOP SIGN WAS PUT IN IN ABOUT THE 1980S, SO PERHAPS WHEN OPAL STREET WAS CUT OFF AND MADE A, AND TERMINATED HERE, WE DIDN'T TAKE AWAY THE NORTHBOUND STOP SIGN, WE JUST LEFT IT THERE.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHIPPING THROUGH THE, AROUND THE CORNER.
AND, AND WE'RE PROPOSING MEASURES TO ADDRESS THAT TURN.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT CAN THAT CAN JUSTIFY THE STOP SIGN REMOVAL PLUS 150FT TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS THAT CROSS GUTTER. SO DRIVERS GOING NORTHBOUND ALREADY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN JUST 150FT SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT DIP.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO STOP AGAIN AT TORRANCE BOULEVARD.
THIS, THE PRESENCE OF THIS STOP SIGN WE DON'T BELIEVE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE SPEEDS VERY MUCH.
OKAY, SO THERE'S ONLY SIX HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED IN THAT AREA.
I WON'T GIVE YOU A HARD TIME. I JUST WANT TO ASK. YEAH, THERE ARE CERTAIN TREATMENTS THAT WE FEEL LIKE BECAUSE IT'S SO UNUSUAL AND DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEVER SEE THIS ANYWHERE ELSE, THAT BY PUTTING IT TO A VOTE, WE GET PUT IN A VERY TOUGH POSITION.
OKAY. AND THEN DID YOU GUYS EXPLORE CUL DE SAC? OR IS THAT A WHOLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS OUT OF THE SCOPE OF US AND A BIGGER CONVERSATION WILL TAKE LIKE EIGHT YEARS?
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YES, THAT WOULD BE A BIGGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EFFECTS WILL BE FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THAT AND THEY HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT ROUTE. OKAY.LAST QUESTION. IS THERE A PREFERRED OPTION THAT YOU GUYS PREFER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS HERE THAT YOU LAID OUT? ANALYSIS, IS THERE A PREFERRED OPTION THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING? I THINK FOR SURE TO ADDRESS THE SPEEDING COMPLAINT THE THE THE THE CARS COMING SWEEPING IN.
WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT FIRST LINE OF CONES, THE ONES THAT ARE MORE VISIBLE SO THAT SOMEONE FROM TORRANCE BOULEVARD CAN ACTUALLY SEE THEM AND, AND MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS AS THEY'RE TURNING IN.
THE SPEED BUMP HERE, THAT'S LOW ON TO, TO FURTHER SLOW THEM DOWN.
THAT'S A NICE TO HAVE. I THINK IT'S, IT'S OPTIONAL.
WE THINK IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT DRIVERS WOULD ACTUALLY HIT THIS, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S THE INTENT OF, OF THE RECOMMENDATION. AND BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE SPEEDS OF TURNING HERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER COMMENTS. THANK YOU RYAN.
MY FIRST LOOKING THROUGH THIS, I AGREE WITH YOU TO REMOVE THE STOP, STOP, STOP SIGN OVER THERE ON IRENA AND NORTHBOUND. TYPICALLY ON OTHER DESIGNS I'VE SEEN IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE THIS THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE A FREE FLOWING TWO WAY IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND THEN THEY STOP ON THE MINOR STREETS CONNECTING TO IT.
I DO THINK IT'S, I ACTUALLY DO THINK IT'S SAFER.
FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I DO LIKE THE MEASURES HERE.
KIND OF HELP WITH THE TURNING MOTION. I DO THINK THAT YOU COULD CREATE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE HERE THAT COULD HELP WITH RESPECT TO REDUCING THE AVAILABLE WIDTH TO THESE CARS DOWN TO 11FT POTENTIALLY IN SOME CASES, KIND OF RESTRICT THE MOTION AND ALSO KEEP IT FREE FLOWING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND ALTHOUGH RESIDENTS WERE, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WERE IN FAVOR OF OF THE CONCEPT, BUT NOT OF THE TEMPORARINESS OF THE MATERIALS.
SO. SO EVEN IN THIS RECOMMENDATION HERE, WE WERE CAUTIOUS TO NOT PUT THOSE TALLER DELINEATORS NEXT TO THE HOMES, AND WE FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T QUITE AS NECESSARY. WE CAN GO WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE LOW PROFILE, BUT THAT STILL DOES A PENALTY IF YOU IF YOU DRIVE OVER IT, BUT RESERVING THOSE TALLER FEATURES SORT OF OUTSIDE THE DIRECT VIEW OF THE HOMES.
SO IS THIS MORE OF A TEMPORARY TRYING TO LOOK FOR PERMANENT.
IS THIS MORE OF A QUICK BUILD THEN? THIS THIS IS A QUICK BUILD MEASURE.
AND THAT WOULD BE A CIP PROJECT. OKAY. IS THERE A POTENTIAL TO LOOK INTO A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND SEE WHAT THAT MOTION WOULD LOOK LIKE? I THINK WE COULD. ANDY MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE APPETITE FOR FOR TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
YOU KNOW, RESTARTING THAT CONVERSATION HERE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
ANDY WINJE, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
YEAH. RYAN'S RIGHT. WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO MANY TRAFFIC CIRCLES AT INTERSECTIONS LIKE THIS IN SEVERAL PLACES IN THE CITY, AND WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING SPEEDS AND CREATING TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT ARE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS.
WHAT WE KIND OF REALIZED IS IT'S HARD TO DO A TEMPORARY ONE, WHICH IS HOW WE STARTED.
WE, WE SET UP TEMPORARY ONES IN CASE PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE IT.
WE COULD PULL IT OUT EASILY AND THERE WAS JUST NO APPETITE FOR THEM.
SO THE COUNCIL KIND OF ABANDONED THAT PROGRAM.
IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A MORE PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, BETTER LOOKING TYPE OF CIRCLE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT REAL ESTATE THERE.
IF WE'VE GOT ENOUGH FRONT IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT.
YEAH. AND I THINK ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT I RECALL WHEN I WAS TRYING TO PLACE THIS, THIS ACTUALLY THE SPEED BUMP IS THAT THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE AUTO SHOP IS NOT TOTALLY ALIGNED WITH OPAL STREET, THE OUTBOUND LANE OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
ACTUALLY, IN MANY CASES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DIRECTLY GO OVER THAT SPEED BUMP.
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AND I JUST DON'T THINK THE CITY'S GOT RESOURCES FOR THAT KIND OF NICE TO HAVE.AS RYAN PUTS IT, VERSUS SOME OF THESE MEASURES.
OKAY. IS THERE A POTENTIAL BASED ON ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS LAID OUT BY ONE OF THE RESIDENTS? IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAYBE PUT A YIELD SIGN? DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD MAYBE HELP? AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A KIND OF TYPE OF SIGN THAT WOULD WORK FOR THAT.
FOR WHICH DIRECTION? FOR SOUTHBOUND GOING EAST.
WESTBOUND GOING SOUTHBOUND. GOING ON IRENA OVER TO OPAL.
WE'RE LOOKING NORTH HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. UP NORTH.
YEAH. WE'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND ON IRENA TO GO EAST ON OPAL.
YEAH. WELL, WELL, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IF IF THAT STOP SIGN GETS REMOVED, THEN THAT LEFT TURN AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A YIELD, RIGHT? LIKE, LIKE HOW ANY INTERSECTION WOULD YOU'RE TURNING LEFT YOU YIELD TO THROUGH TRAFFIC.
BUT TO ACTUALLY MARK IT, I THINK I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT REAL ESTATE TO, TO SHOW WHERE YOU WOULD, WHERE YOU WOULD WAIT. AND THOSE MARKINGS COULD, COULD BE A LITTLE CONFUSING WITH THE, WITH THE YIELD.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A STOP AND IT'S ASSIGNING THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE DIFFICULT THERE.
OKAY. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. I, I GOTTA, I GOTTA SAY, I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE A TERRIFIC JOB ON THIS. HATS OFF TO YOU, RYAN, FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A SUCCINCT DISPLAY HERE. AND THIS IS, I REALLY LIKE THE CITY'S OPTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
COULD YOU SAY WHICH ONES? THE ORIGINAL HARDENED CENTER LINES FROM.
JUST TO CLARIFY COMMISSIONER THAT SAYS THE. THESE TWO BULLET POINTS RIGHT HERE ON THE PRESENTATION.
IS THAT, ARE THOSE THE TWO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. LET ME SEE IF I CAN BRING IT UP ON THE.
HERE WE GO. THE HARDENED CENTER LINE ON IRENA.
AND THEN ALSO THE EIGHT INCH DIAMETER RAISED PAVEMENT MARKERS ON OPAL AND THE THE REMOVAL OF THE STOP SIGN ON IRENA AS WELL. DO YOU DO YOU RECOMMEND THE SPEED BUMP IN THE MIDDLE TWO? FOR THE LEFT TURN? THAT IS UP TO, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF, FOR CARS WHIPPING AROUND THERE.
YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT? IN ORDER TO SLOW THOSE DOWN COMING OFF OF TORRANCE.
YES. THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MEASURES THAT WOULD HELP. YEAH.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT AS WELL. OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE STOP SIGN REMOVAL THAT THAT WILL GET FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL. THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE.
RIGHT? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BEELI. LOOKING FOR A SECOND? YEAH. I'LL SECOND. SECOND. VOTE. COMMISSIONER SIMPSON.
AYE. COMMISSIONER NAFISSI. AYE. COMMISSIONER BEELI.
AYE. VICE CHAIR ANDERSON. AYE. MOTION PASSES.
ITEM J.2. DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS AT PCH.
IS IT AGATE OR AGATE. AGATE. TWO. I STRUGGLE WITH IT TOO.
SO THIS IS FOR THE INTERSECTION OF PCH AND AGATE CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS.
JOINT PRESENTATION BETWEEN US AT PUBLIC WORKS AND CALTRANS DISTRICT SEVEN.
BUT FIRST I'LL SHOW THIS IS THE NOTICING AREA FOR THIS ITEM.
SO WE MAILED POSTCARDS NOTIFYING RESIDENTS OF THIS MEETING ALL THE WAY UP TO LUCIA AND INCLUDING THE BUSINESSES WEST OF PCH WHERE THE PIZZA PLACE IS AND THE SANDWICH SHOP. JUST SOME BACKGROUND THAT CALTRANS RECEIVED TWO CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS TO INSTALL A TYPE OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON. WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT AT PCH AND AGATE STREET.
THERE'S AN EXISTING CROSSWALK THERE. AND THE REASON WHY CALTRANS IS HERE IS PCH IS STATE ROUTE ONE, A CALTRANS OWNED STREET. AND SO WE CAN TAKE IT TO CALTRANS PRESENTATION BY WILFRED.
HI. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.
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AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M NOT HERE JUST BECAUSE RYAN INVITED ME.WE'RE HERE WITHOUT YOUR NOTICE, AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT OFFICES.
I'M FROM THE OFFICE OF TRANSPORTATION SAFETY, AND WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF MOBILITY.
SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR CONGESTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO OUR OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WHO TAKES CARE OF YOUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO THIS IS, BY COMING HERE TODAY IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND SO I HOPE THAT MY PRESENCE WILL BE GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT AGAIN, I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE RECEIVED, AS RYAN MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF PCH AND AGATE STREET. WE RECEIVED ONE BEFORE, BUT WHEN WE DID OUR STUDY, IT DID NOT MEET OUR WARRANTS FOR ANY OF A FLASHING BEACON, WHICH WE CALL NORMALLY CALL IT A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND THEN RECEIVE ANOTHER CONCERN FROM ONE OF YOUR CONCERNED CITIZENS.
AND AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, FIRST OF ALL WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS KIND OF CONCERN, WE GO THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A, IT USED TO BE CALLED ICE, WHICH IS INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION.
THIS PROCESS BASED ON THE SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH.
SO IT MEANS THAT IT'S BASED ON THE SIX PRINCIPLES.
IT'S TO ELIMINATE DEATH AND SERIOUS INJURY. HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES.
HUMANS ARE VULNERABLE. RESPONSIBILITY SHARED.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY US AS ENGINEERS. THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DRIVERS.
SO MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, YOU HAVE A SIGN, YOU HAVE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, THESE ARE ALL REDUNDANT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T SEE THE SIGN, MAYBE YOU SEE THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, MAYBE YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS SAFETY IS PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE PROACTIVE ONES. SO WE NORMALLY DO OUR, INSTEAD OF REACTING TO COLLISIONS OR COMPLAINTS, WE GO TO, WE GO AROUND, WE DO OUR FIELD INVESTIGATION.
SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WHEN WE DO OUR ISOAP, WE HAVE THIS DIFFERENT KIND OF STRATEGIES.
SO FOR THIS AT GRADE INTERSECTION, WE ARE AT THIS PCH AND AGATE INTERSECTION.
WE COULD DO THE FOLLOWING. WE COULD DO A JUST A STOP ON THE MINOR ROAD.
WE COULD DO A MINOR STOP WITH JUST RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT.
WE COULD DO AN ALL WAY STOP FOR ALL THE FOR THE LEGS.
WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A RESTRICTED CROSSING U-TURN.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE LEFT TURNS AT THE INTERSECTION.
WE WANT THEM TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
WE ALSO HAVE SIMILARLY THE MEDIAN U-TURN. AND THEN WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, OR SOMETIMES WE CALL IT THE HAWK BECAUSE IT'S THE WAY HOW IT'S LIKE, LIKE, LIKE THE HAWK. AND THEN WE HAVE A ROUNDABOUT, WHICH YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE STRATEGIES THAT WE FOUND OUT TO BE VIABLE AT PCH AND AGATE ARE THE SIGNALIZED AND THE PHB. SO FOR SIGNALIZED THIS IS, I THINK THIS THE NORMAL ONE THAT YOU CAN SEE.
SO FOR THE PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATION, PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS ARE PLACED AT THE DESIGNATED CROSSWALK.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S ALL LEGS, SOMETIMES IT'S ONLY ONE LEG.
SO IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING.
NOW WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL NOW THE LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL OR LPI, WHICH MEANS THAT WE LET THE PEDESTRIANS WALK FIRST BEFORE THE GREEN LIGHT OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL. WE FOUND IT TO BE VERY HELPFUL NOW IN PREVENTING COLLISIONS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE BICYCLISTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THEY FOLLOW THE SIGNAL. SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, OR WE CALL IT THE HAWK. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE PHB IS THAT THE PHB ONLY TURNS ON WHEN IT GETS
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ACTIVATED BY A PEDESTRIAN. SO MOST OF THEM IT'S DARK.SO FOR NOW IT DOESN'T HAVE IT. SO IT'S JUST WORKING AS NORMAL AS IT IS.
BUT WHEN THERE'S A NEED FOR A PEDESTRIAN TO CROSS, THEY NEED TO PRESS THAT BUTTON.
AND THEN THERE'S A MISCOMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT WHEN YOU PRESS THE BUTTON, IT TURNS ON RIGHT AWAY. NO, THAT'S THE MISUNDERSTANDING.
IT WAITS UNTIL IT TURNS RED, SO THAT YOU DON'T DISRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS, THE COUNTDOWN, SO THAT THE PEDESTRIAN WILL KNOW HOW LONG WILL THEY BE CROSSING THE PEDESTRIAN. SO IT'S THE SAME THING TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS AND THEN THE BICYCLIST.
CAN WE GET SOUND ON THIS ONE? LET'S SEE.
JESSE, WOULD YOU KNOW WHICH SPEAKERS? I AM TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP.
TEENAGERS. MAKE CROSSING BUSY STREETS EASY. CITY OF IRVINE IS INSTALLING A NEW TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE TO HELP MAKE CROSSING BUSY STREETS EASIER FOR PEDESTRIANS. THIS NEW DEVICE IS CALLED A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON OR PHB, AND PROVIDES PEDESTRIANS A SAFER CROSSING ALTERNATIVE THAN TRADITIONAL CROSSWALKS, ESPECIALLY IN MID-BLOCK LOCATIONS THAT ARE HEAVILY TRAVELED BY PEDESTRIANS.
THIS IS HOW THEY WORK. ONCE A PEDESTRIAN PUSHES THE BUTTON, THE BEACON FLASHES YELLOW AND THEN A STEADY YELLOW, INDICATING THAT DRIVERS NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND WARNING DRIVERS OF AN UPCOMING RED LIGHT.
THE STEADY RED LIGHT REQUIRES DRIVERS TO STOP.
AT THIS TIME, PEDESTRIANS WILL BE GIVEN THE WALK SIGNAL TO CROSS THE STREET.
ONCE THE BEACON IS DARK, TRAFFIC MAY PROCEED NORMALLY UNTIL THE PHB IS ACTIVATED AGAIN.
THE CITY OF IRVINE PLANS TO ACTIVATE ITS FIRST PHB IN.
THANK YOU BRIAN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO AGAIN, I'M HERE TO, FOR OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE. I THINK, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO HASN'T BEEN GOING THROUGH A PHD, KNOWS AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
AND THEN WE'RE HERE TO EDUCATE THEM IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I GUESS JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE IS AN EXISTING PHB ON PCH AT THIRD STREET IN HERMOSA BEACH, AND CALTRANS IS ALSO CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING ONE AT PCH AND AVENUE D.
RYAN AT THIS. I'M SORRY. YEAH. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER AT THIS INTERSECTION IS THE LIGHT COULD IT BE AN ANOTHER STOP LINE ON PCH? YES. SO IF A PHB IS INSTALLED, THAT WOULD COME WITH ANOTHER STOP BAR IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SIMPSON. DO YOU HAVE ANY TIMS OR POLICE DATA ON ANY ACCIDENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION? I THINK THERE'S A FEW. NOT MUCH. NOT MUCH. THIS IS COMPLETELY BASED UPON THE TWO REQUESTS FROM THE RESIDENTS.
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AND YOU SAID IT WAS NOT MEETING WARRANT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. FOR THE PHB.YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S THE, WE DID OUR TRAFFIC COUNT.
YEP. AND IT DID NOT WARRANT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
YEAH. SO THE, THE NEXT VIABLE OPTION WOULD BE THE PHB.
IS THAT CORRECT? IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME KIND OF WATER JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
WELL, I THINK IT DOES NEED A PHB WARRANT, CORRECT? NO. THE WARRANTS FOR THE NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS AND THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.
RIGHT, AND IT'S ALSO SPEED AND DISTANCE ON THE CROSSWALK AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TOO, RIGHT? FOR THE ONE, BECAUSE WE WILL BE THINKING IT TO THE NEXT, WHICH IS THE ARENA.
YEAH. SO WE'LL SYNC IT TOGETHER SO THAT WE WILL NOT WE'LL MINIMIZE THE DISRUPTION OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S DARK ALL THE TIME UNLESS IT'S ACTIVATED BY PEDESTRIAN. RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO THEY ARE INTERCONNECTED. I GUESS. SHOULD WE WAIT FOR.
SHOULD I WAIT FOR EDITORIALIZATION UNTIL AFTER THE COMMUNITY SPOKE OR.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A SIGNAL 300FT DOWN, AND I THINK THAT I KNOW THAT'S A TOUGH MASON-DIXON LINE WITH RESPECT TO PEDESTRIANS CROSSING OVER, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT SAFETY WITH RESPECT TO RESIDENTS OR WHOEVER PEDESTRIANS GOING 300FT OVER TO IRENA AND CROSSING IF NECESSARY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, THOUGH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THAT. CAN I GET A QUESTION? YEAH.
IS, IF IT DOES GO IN, WOULD THE CITY BE PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL CROSSWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION? I BELIEVE SO, THAT'S UP TO CALTRANS TO, TO DECIDE.
BUT GENERALLY WITH A PHB, THERE'S JUST ONE CROSSWALK.
SO, I EXPECT THAT THE CROSSWALK WOULD REMAIN AT THE CURRENT LOCATION IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE IS CURRENTLY A MARKED CROSSWALK THERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM THE? IS. NO, THERE'S NO HAND RAISED ON ZOOM.
FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO ECOMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
HI, MY NAME IS RUSS. I OFFICE AT 604 NORTH PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. MY DESK SITS OUT LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW AT THIS CROSSWALK.
AND I LIVE ON AGATE STREET, SO I PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST PERSPECTIVE OF THIS INTERSECTION.
I CAN TELL YOU, JUST THIS MORNING, I WATCHED A MAN PICK HIS SON UP AND GRABBED HIS SCOOTER AND RUN ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION, DODGING CARS. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE WAY THE INTERSECTION IS NOW, IS VERY DANGEROUS.
I DON'T CROSS THERE EVER. I GET A NEW JERSEY MIKE'S SUB THERE.
I WILL GO UP TO IRENA AND WALK AROUND BECAUSE I DON'T FIND MYSELF SAFE.
PEOPLE DO IT THOUGH, ALL THE TIME. NOW SPEAKING OF ACCIDENTS, I'VE SEEN TWO LIGHT POLES GO DOWN.
I'VE SEEN A JEEP FLIP. OUR BUILDING WAS HIT WITH THE FRONT WHEEL OF A TIRE AFTER A POLICE CHASE ON PCH, AND THE AVERAGE SPEED IS ABOUT 50, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF DAY.
IF THE LIGHTS ARE GREEN. SO THAT IS A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.
I WOULD STRONGLY URGE EITHER UPGRADING THAT CROSSWALK OR REMOVING IT ENTIRELY.
IT'S NOT SAFE JUST TO WALK ACROSS. I'VE HEARD TIRES SQUEAL AS PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED.
ONE PERSON STOPS AND THEN ONE LANES OPEN AND SOMEBODY GOES WALKING ACROSS.
I'VE SEEN CLOSE CALLS THERE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND IT'S VERY SCARY.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND JUST LIKE THEY HAVE IN HERMOSA BEACH, EITHER DOING THAT OR TAKE THE CROSSWALK OUT ENTIRELY, BUT DON'T LET PEOPLE WALK ACROSS THAT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF CONTROL.
IT'S NOT SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ARE WE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSION OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING FOR RECEIVE AND FILE AT THIS POINT? I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THIS IS UP TO CALTRANS TO DECIDE.
YEAH, I THINK OUR THIS IS A CALTRANS PROJECT.
THEY MAY DO WHAT THEY WILL DO. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IF THERE'S A STRONG OBJECTION TO THIS,
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THAT YOU MAKE THAT KNOWN. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL HELP IN SOME FUTURE CONVERSATION THAT WE MAY NEED TO HAVE.AND SO THE CROSSING HAS ITS ADVANTAGES AND IT HAS ITS DRAWBACKS.
BUT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSION. SO WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHICH WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS KNOWING HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CALTRANS AND OUR STAFF TO STAFF DISCUSSIONS. COULD YOU OR THE DISTRICT SEVEN SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE NEXT STEPS? SO AGAIN WE HAVE THIS ISOAP PROCESS AGAIN, INTERSECTION SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALL THE VIABLE ALTERNATIVES.
SO FOR NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE PHB.
SO IF YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ROUNDABOUT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH VOLUME, WE WILL NEED A TWO LANE AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ROUNDABOUT.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE DOWN TO THIS. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE COLLISIONS WILL MORE LOOK INTO THAT.
IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION, WE COULD SHARE IT TO YOU. IN TERMS OF CONGESTION WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT ISSUE AT THIS INTERSECTION. IN TERMS OF FOR THEM GOING TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION.
I BELIEVE THE CLOSEST ONE WILL BE IRENA, IF. IRENA TO THE TO THE NORTH.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE DOWN IS BERYL, PROBABLY MORE THAN 300FT, FOR SURE.
RIGHT. I WOULD ONLY SAY THAT IF THEY DO GO FORWARD WITH THE HAWK TO REALLY TRY TO HELP WITH EDUCATION, WITH THE PEOPLE COMING OFF THE MINOR STREET, I THINK IT'S CONFUSING SOMETIMES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NOTICED AT OUR FIRM. SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION, I ALMOST DO SECOND, THE BUSINESS OWNERS COMMENT THAT THAT WE SHOULD EITHER COMPLETELY REMOVE IT TO KIND OF SAY, HEY, GO UP TO THE NEXT STREET OR MAYBE UPGRADE IT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALSO EXPRESSED TO CALTRANS, WHICH IS THE EDUCATION COMPONENT, AS WE NOTED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, ARE RELATIVELY NEW. THEY HAVE A LEARNING CURVE TO THEM.
SO THAT COULD BE PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE WANT TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION? ARE WE GOING TO.
WHAT'S THE FEELING OF THE COMMISSION? TO ENGAGE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
HAVE YOU ENGAGED THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE DISTRICT? YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DO SOME MONTHLY MEETINGS AND THEY HAVE A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT IMPACT THEM OR WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. AND WE'RE HONORED THAT YOU CAME TO US.
YEAH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK. HIS NAME IS CHADWICK CASTLE.
OKAY. AND THAT IT'S A HUGE RESIDENTIAL ZONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
YEAH, WE DID SEND POSTCARD NOTICES TO THE BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES.
OKAY. AND THIS WAS YOUR RESPONSE? WHAT WE SEE HERE TONIGHT.
OKAY. WE DID, WE, THE POSTCARDS GOT DELIVERED.
OKAY. HE'S GOT ONE. SEEMS LEGIT. THERE WERE ABOUT 200 DELIVERED, 200 POSTCARDS.
OKAY. YEAH. IS THERE LIKE, A RESPONSE TO THIS NOW? NO, IT WAS THAT. IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, PLEASE CONTACT US.
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CONTINUE OUR STUDY. YEAH. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN SUFFICIENT COMMENTARY TO IT.I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING YOUR MONDAY NIGHT TO COME OUT HERE AND PRESENT TO US.
APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO MOTION FOR A RECEIVE AND FILE.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. YES. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ROLL CALL, PLEASE? ROLL CALL ON IT. YEAH. COMMISSIONER SIMPSON? AYE.
COMMISSIONER NAFISSI? AYE. COMMISSIONER BEELI? AYE. VICE CHAIR ANDERSON? AYE. ITEM J.3 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEMS TO BE ADDED OR MODIFIED ON THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
SO THIS, THIS ITEM IS AN OPPORTUNITY. SO THE CITY COUNCIL IS HOLDING THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION NEXT TUESDAY, MARCH 31ST AT 2 P.M. IN THE MAIN LIBRARY, UPSTAIRS IN THE IN THE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM.
IT'S USUALLY A 6 TO 12 MONTH STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED FOR THE COMMISSIONS IS TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK, ANY ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE BE ADDED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
ANYTHING THAT WAS ON THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
SO THIS IS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS THAT WE WOULD SHARE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER FOR THEIR PLANNING SESSION NEXT TUESDAY. SO THERE'S NO FORMAL PRESENTATION.
THIS IS JUST CHANCE FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS IF THEY HAVE ANY.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO FORMALIZE THOSE AND WE WOULD PUT THEM IN A MEMO THAT'D BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? FOR THE RECORD ON ZOOM. OKAY. OR ANY COMMENTS? TO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? NO. NO, NOTHING TO SUGGEST.
YOU'RE NOT OBLIGED TO PROVIDE ANY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT MANDATORY THAT YOU PROVIDE A MEMO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY ASK US TO BRING TO YOU TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
YEAH. I LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND IT SEEMS GOOD TO ME AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PARTICULAR TO ADD TO IT. IT SEEMS TO BE FUNCTIONING, SO I, I.
DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO OFFER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
I PROVIDED ALL MY RECOMMENDATIONS LAST YEAR. I THINK THOSE HOLD.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. I'M JUST SURPRISED NOT TO SEE MORE ITEMS ON OPEN SPACE AND PARKS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. LIKE A WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS ON IT GIVEN SO MUCH CONVERSATION.
BUT I DO HAVE MORE OF JUST A GENERAL COMMENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS LANDS, SO I DON'T KNOW.
JUST PUT IT IN YOUR BACK POCKET. THE STATE GAVE SOME GUIDELINES TO LOCAL HEALTH PLANS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WHERE THEY ARE ENCOURAGING PUBLIC HEALTH PLANS TO REINVEST IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT THEY DO REINVESTMENTS IN.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FALLS, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING FOR BEACH CITIES TO LOOK INTO.
IF YOU GUYS HAD AN UPGRADE OF A PARK, GET SOME INVESTMENT FUNDS ON THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYBE NOT RELATED TO STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT RELATED TO PAYING FOR IT.
SO NO INPUT, THANK YOU. NO INPUT. NO INPUT. WITH THAT.
THERE'S REALLY NO VOTE TO TAKE ON THIS ONE. SO HEARD YOUR COMMENTS.
AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. MOVE FORWARD, SOUNDS GOOD.
ITEM K. COMMISSIONER MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS.
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NOTHING. I HAVE ONE. COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE RED CURVE ON PROSPECT TO SEE.SO WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG OR KIND OF WHAT THE STATUS IS? AND YEAH, SO AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO EXTEND THAT RED CURB ON THE BACKSIDE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
BUT WE RECEIVED WORD FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HR TO, TO HOLD ON THAT DUE TO SOME LEGAL REASONS.
LEGAL REASONS. PAINTING A CURB? I NEED MORE DETAILS, PLEASE.
YES. WE DON'T KNOW. EXCUSE ME. ANDREW WINJE, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AGAIN.
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BECAUSE IT'S A BUS STOP. WORKING YOUR WAY THROUGH. AND WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THE PAINTING ON THE STREET CURBS OR LANE MARKINGS OR ANYTHING THAT WE PRESENTED AND THAT YOU APPROVED WHENEVER THAT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.AND ADA ACCOMMODATION, BECAUSE IT'S A BUS STOP AND WE CAN'T PAINT IT RED? I DON'T KNOW THE NATURE OF IT. I JUST HEARD IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BRING BACK NEXT TIME TO PROVIDE ME SOME INSIGHT ON WHY IT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED.
MAYBE I CAN ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER SHE CAN PROVIDE.
AND I CAN GET THAT TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER TOPICS? WITH THAT, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE 6 P.M. APRIL 27TH, THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
SO FOR FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE ADJOURNING NEXT MONDAY.
NEXT MEETING IS OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION, WITH THE CIP AND BUDGET ARE PRESENTED AS WE KICK OFF OUR NEXT BUDGET YEAR FOR 26-27. SO THAT'S WHY IF YOU NOTICE, IT SAYS 6 P.M., NOT 7 P.M..
SO JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE OF THAT.
THANK YOU. IT WAS A JOINT. A JOINT MEETING AT SIX, AND THEN WE GO INTO OUR.
WE'LL SEE WHAT ITEMS WE HAVE FOR FOR THAT. BUT THERE WILL STILL BE THE SUBSEQUENT REGULAR PUBLIC WORKS, SAFETY AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AFTER THE JOINT MEETING. RIGHT. TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT IT'LL BE 6 P.M. JOINT MEETING. WHAT'S THE DATE AGAIN? THE 20TH OR 27TH? THE 27TH. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S ON YOU.
WHOEVER DID PUT LAUREN PUT IT ON OUR CALENDAR FOR SEVEN.
I'M NOT BLAMING LAUREN, BUT I REALLY RELY ON YOUR CALENDAR INVITES.
OKAY, WE'LL UPDATE IT. I READ THEM. AS I'VE BEEN REMINDED, IT'S NOT THE LAST MONDAY OF THE MONTH.
IT'S THE FOURTH MONDAY. CORRECT. YES. WITH THAT, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.