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          2026 AT 7:01 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET,
REDONDO BEACH. 
          [A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? YES. COMMISSIONER GOLD? COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE,
SHE'S ALREADY CALLED AND SAID SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ SAID HE WILL BE ARRIVING A LITTLE BIT LATE,
BUT HE WILL BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER PITZELE? HERE. COMMISSIONER TANER? HERE. VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY? HERE. AND CHAIR O'BRIEN-HERRERA? HERE. THANK YOU, WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. 
          NOW, I WOULD LIKE US TO SALUTE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA. 
          [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA AS IS? MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PITZELE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? THERE IS ONE BLUE FOLDER ITEM SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER
TANER. 
          [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
IT'S THERE FOR INFORMATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT UNLESS WE WOULD LIKE TO
AGENDIZE IT FOR A FUTURE MEETING. 
          BUT THERE IS INFORMATION HE THOUGHT INTERESTING AND VALID TO THE COMMISSION. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? I MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY,
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          DO YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHY I FILED THIS THING? I DON'T THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO PULL IT FOR AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT
MEETING. 
          DO YOU THINK YOU COULD JUST BASICALLY DESCRIBE IT WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL? WE COULD NOT DISCUSS IT OR ASK QUESTIONS. GREAT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO DESCRIBE IT? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IT BASICALLY CONSISTS OF AN
ORDINANCE JUST PASSED BY THE CITY OF MANHATTAN BEACH, OUR NEIGHBORS EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF THEIR PUBLIC ARTS FUND,
WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE, I BELIEVE, SINCE 2002, TO ART FORMS OTHER THAN PAINTINGS AND SCULPTURE. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AS OUR NEW SCOPE OF OUR CULTURAL ARTS
COMMISSION. 
          SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A PROPOSE, A MOTION UNDER K THAT WE DISCUSS YOU KNOW,
THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF OUR OWN JOHN PARSONS FUNDS INTO ART FORMS OTHER THAN JUST PUBLIC
PAINTINGS AND SCULPTURES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NEXT WE MOVE ON TO CONSENT 
          [F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
CALENDAR. BUSINESS ITEMS EXCEPT THOSE FORMALLY NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION ARE
ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED,
DISCUSSED AND ACT UPON SEPARATELY. 
          ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE EXCLUDED CONSENT
CALENDAR SECTION BELOW. 
          THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. 
          ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER PUBLIC THAT WISH TO PULL ITEMS FOR FURTHER
DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE WILL APPROVE ALL CONSENT ITEMS IN ONE MOTION. 
          WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANYTHING? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS IS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING,
CORRECT? IT DOES INCLUDE THE MINUTES. YES. SO IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE A SECOND? COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY. 
          SO FOLKS AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU. CAN I PULL OUT ONE ITEM,
PLEASE? SURE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL OUT? THE ONE,
I JUST LOST MY SCREEN, THE ONE I THINK IT'S THE LAST ONE ABOUT THE ARTESIA BOULEVARD. 
          YES. YOU'D LIKE TO PULL OUT F.3? YES, PLEASE. 
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OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS IS PULLING OUT F.3 FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS IT IS PULLING OUT F.3. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          SO UNDER EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS WE HAVE PULLED ITEM F.3 WHICH IS REGARDING THE
ARTESIA BOULEVARD STRATEGIC ART PLAN. 
          [G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]
COMMISSIONER TANER, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YES,
PLEASE. SO I RECEIVED A CALL FROM OUR CONSULTANTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GUYS DID TO. AGAIN,
EXPLAIN, I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THIS PROJECT ABOUT THE LGBTQ STRUCTURE IS GOING INCREDIBLY SLOW FOR MY TASTE. 
          I EXPLAINED TO THEM THE BACKGROUND THAT I INTERVIEWED FOR THIS COMMISSION FOR THREE YEARS
IN A ROW. 
          AND EVERY TIME THIS PROJECT CAME UP AND I ASKED THEM IF POSSIBLE,
TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS, EITHER IN PERSON OR PHYSICALLY OR VIA TELEPHONE. 
          SO I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S THE CASE. IF SOMEBODY REPRESENTING OUR CONSULTANTS HERE TO
EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ARTESIA PROJECT IN GENERAL. NO, THERE WILL NOT BE ANYBODY HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          OKAY. IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM, THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC IDEA AND THEN THEY
WILL BE JOINING IN OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO I AGAIN, HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN THE PAST,
AND I REALLY WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR CONSULTANTS WHOM WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY TO BE PRESENT AT EACH MEETING FOR A 5 TO 10 MINUTE UPDATE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING,
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL HAVE A POTENTIAL OF SPEEDING THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          THIS THING IS GOING INCREDIBLY SLOW AND I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST READING THIS, YOUR UPDATE. 
          IS THIS WRITTEN BY JACK, YOU? NO. NO, THAT WAS WRITTEN BY MY SUPERIOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR
ORTA. 
          RIGHT. CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS? YES. 
          IT WAS BROUGHT UP, POSSIBLY WHEN YOU WERE MISSING,
ONE MEETING THAT YOU MISSED, IS THAT THERE WAS SOME. 
          SO THE PUBLIC WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING ABOUT THEIR OWN OPINIONS ON ABOUT THE LGBTQ SCULPTURE TO BEGIN WITH. AND THERE WAS SOME FUNNY BUSINESS THAT HAPPENED WITH THIS. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER HEARING THAT? YES IT WAS. THE COUNCIL REQUIRED THAT WE GO OUT TO
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL OUTREACH FOR THE REST OF THE ARTESIA PROJECT. 
          SO WHEN ADDED, IT BECAME A REQUIREMENT AND THEY HAD TO DO A SURVEY AND SOMEBODY TAMPERED
WITH THE SURVEY AND BASICALLY REPLICATED THEIR NEGATIVE RESPONSES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL IT WAS CONSIDERED
COMPROMISED AND NOT USABLE. 
          SO THE NET RESULT OF THAT IS TO CREATE A NEW AND BETTER PROTECTED PROCEDURE,
AND THE COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY LIKELY WANT TO SEE THE QUESTIONS, THE FORMAT,
THEY WILL NOW BE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT HAS SLOWED IT DOWN AT THIS POINT. 
          DID YOU HEAR THAT? NO, BUT I THINK HIS QUESTION WAS,
WAS YOUR WAS YOUR QUESTION ALSO TO GET FEEDBACK FROM LEBASSE LIKE, AND THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, YOU KNOW,
DURING THIS COURSE THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER VARIOUS THINGS THAT THEY ARE,
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW GETTING TO GET. 
          I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY. REALLY DON'T HEAR ANYTHING,
SO. 
          I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT FOR THEM TO REPORT ON A REGULAR BASIS IS NOT IN THEIR CONTRACT AND
COULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL COST. 
          AND SO THEREFORE, WHEN THERE ARE SPECIFIC ITEMS WHERE THE COMMISSION IS SPECIFICALLY
REQUIRED TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH THEN THEY WILL BE HERE. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PRESENT IN A MEETING BY
MEETING BASIS IN WRITING. 
          BUT EVEN WITH THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN. 
          YEAH. THAT'S. THIS INFORMATION ORIGINATES WITH THEM. 
          JACK, WHEN IS OUR, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT A CALL FOR ARTISTS WITH THEM. 
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IS THAT WHERE THEY ARE AS FAR AS OUR PROJECT GOES? WELL, THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED THE CALL FOR ARTISTS AND IT HAD A VERY GOOD RESPONSE 181
SUBMISSIONS. 
          RIGHT. AND SO THAT WILL NOW RESULT IN A MEETING OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PANEL
WHO WILL BE EVALUATING THEM WHILE THEY WILL ALL DISCUSS TOGETHER HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE. SO THEY'LL BE SETTING UP A DATE FOR AN APPOINTMENT
CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          THEY CAN GO THROUGH THEM. ALSO SOME OF COURSE,
WILL HAVE BEEN PRE SELECTED OUT AS JUST BEING NOT QUALIFIED. 
          AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYBODY HAVING TO SPEND AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME ON ONES
THAT CAN'T QUALIFY. 
          SO BUT THEY SAID THAT TYPICALLY AMOUNTS TO MAYBE 80 OF THEM. 
          SO THERE WILL STILL BE A LOT OF SUBMISSIONS TO GO THROUGH. 
          DO WE KNOW? I DON'T EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THEM UNTIL AFTER THAT PROCESS HAS FINISHED. 
          SO DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING? IS IT SOMETIME IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO? I THINK WE'RE ON HOLD PENDING THIS. 
          LGBTQ. THIS LGBTQ SURVEY. OKAY. ISSUE WITH THE COUNCIL,
WHICH I EXPECT THAT WOULD COME UP MUCH SOONER. 
          THAT'S IN MAY. OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING,
RIGHT? I THINK IT'LL BE SOONER THAN THAT. I'M NOT SURE. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I READ. OKAY. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPECT A SUBSTANTIAL
UPDATE FROM. 
          I WOULD THINK IN MAY OR JUNE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE,
BECAUSE I THINK JUNE WAS ONE OF THEIR TARGET DATES. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKELY TO ME. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. I WILL TRY AND GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. 
          OKAY. BEAU TOLD ME DURING MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND HIS ASSISTANT THAT IS A FANTASTIC
IDEA FOR THEM TO BE REPRESENTED AT THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR A BRIEF PERIOD TO GIVE AN UPDATE. THIS IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. SO WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS THEY ARE ASKING
FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY? THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONTRADICTING STATEMENTS. SO I'M LOSING MY FAITH IN THIS IN THIS
CONSULTANTS. 
          ALLOW ME TO CORRECT THAT, THEY DID NOT ASK FOR MORE MONEY. 
          IT WAS A CONCERN OF OUR PEOPLE READING AND INTERPRETING THE CONTRACT. 
          THEY DID NOT ASK FOR ANYTHING. OKAY, SO I MISUNDERSTOOD,
I APOLOGIZE. 
          NO, OKAY. SO I STILL BELIEVE AND I'M ASKING MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS,
IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE. 
          JUST BASED ON THE CONVERSATION OF THE LAST TWO MINUTES THAT JACK DOESN'T KNOW,
WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THEM TO SHOW UP HERE VIA TELEPHONE OR ZOOM FOR FIVE MINUTES, ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A MONTH,
TO BASICALLY TELL US WHERE WE ARE ON THESE TWO ISSUES, THAT WE ARE PAYING THEM A SUBSTANTIAL MONEY. I WILL RELAY THAT TO MY BOSS AND I WILL
REPORT BACK ON THE RESPONSE. SIR, WHAT DOES YOUR BOSS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS? I THOUGHT THEY WERE. WE MANAGE THE CONTRACT. OUR BOSS,
WE MANAGE THE CONTRACT. 
          IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND LEBASSE PROJECTS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD, IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE A WAY TO JUST RELAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FOR THEM TO REMAIN IN A POSITIVE LIGHT
AND THAT PERHAPS, MAYBE THEY COULD JUST BE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATIVE? I CAN CERTAINLY RELAY THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK IN THE ESSENCE OF EVERYONE'S TIME THOUGH,
TOO, THAT WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT THEM TO COME AND TALK TO US IF THERE ARE NO UPDATES. 
          SO I THINK IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD UPDATES COMING
THROUGH. 
          AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD HEAR FROM THEM THEN. 
          SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE THAT NOT MUCH IS GOING ON. BUT
I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT HURTS. ON THE SERVICE A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES. JUST, YOU KNOW, INQUIRY ABOUT IT JUST SO THAT WAY. THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE DOING OUR PART ALSO AS A PUBLIC
ART CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO FIND OUT SINCE, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED THIS, THIS WAS A WHOLE THING THAT WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR,
A YEAR AGO. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO. AND I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY,
LIKE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAD HAPPENED, THEN GO BACK AGAIN TO THE MINUTES AND READ ABOUT IT AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT
TOO, FROM WHEN THIS ALL BEGAN. SO MAYBE TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WELL,
I DEFINITELY GET THE, THE POSITION THAT THERE IS A DISCONNECT HERE BETWEEN COMMISSION EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT'S OCCURRING. 
          AND I WILL RELAY THAT UP THE CHAIN AND SEE IF I CAN GET ANY KIND OF A SUBSTANTIAL ANSWER
FOR YOU. 
          THANKS, JEFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENT? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO DO WE RECEIVE AND FILE NOW? IS THAT RIGHT? IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT,
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? GEORGETTE GANTNER, DISTRICT TWO. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREAL UNREALISTIC TO ASK THEM TO ZOOM. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE FAR AND THE TRAFFIC IS A PAIN. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. BUT IF THEY JUST ZOOM AND THERE SHOULD IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE
UPDATES. 
          I MEAN, SOMETIMES THERE AREN'T. BUT EVEN IF HE SAYS THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THEY'RE
DOING, 
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AND THE FACT THAT, YES, THERE WAS AN UPDATE BECAUSE AS JACK JUST INFORMED EVERYBODY,
THAT NOW THEY'RE VETTING ARTISTS AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. I MEAN, THAT'S IMPORTANT. LIKE YOU SAID,
IT'S LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S FALLING BETWEEN THE CRACKS AND, YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK. 
          SO JUST I THINK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE F.3. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. 
          [H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT
ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. 
          THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO
ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. 
          IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? GEORGETTE GANTNER,
DISTRICT TWO. 
          I JUST WANT TO REPORT THAT TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST NIGHT FOR THE FARMERS MARKET THAT IS ON
ARTESIA AND GREEN, AND THEY CLOSED OFF THE STREET EFFECTIVELY AND SUCCESSFULLY. 
          AND THERE WAS A RIDICULOUS TURNOUT. I TURNOUT. I THINK THEY HAD AT SOME POINT EARLY THEY
HAD 400 THEY COUNTED, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE AND THEY WERE INTERVIEWING,
AND I THINK IT WENT OVER 600. 
          AND ALMOST EVERYBODY SOLD OUT OF FOOD, WHICH WAS LIKE,
DARN IT, I COULDN'T EAT BECAUSE I GOT THERE LATE. 
          BUT IT'S SO EXCITING BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS LIKE THE FIRST STEP IN ENHANCING THIS
COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE KNOW NOW THAT PEOPLE I MEAN, JIM MUELLER GOT SO MANY PEOPLE TO SIGN THE PETITION
AND PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN UP. 
          AND IT'S A WONDERFUL ARRAY OF DIFFERENT VENDORS. 
          AND IT'S VERY EXCITING. AND ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE TOO INFORMATION,
TOO MUCH INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT SURE, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO ACQUIRE ONE OF THOSE
PROPERTIES FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. AND IT'S MOVING ALONG. 
          AND I SENT THE PROPOSAL TODAY, SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHATEVER,
BUT THAT WOULD BE COMMUNITY ARTS CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER. ANYWAY, I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO GO. 
          I HOPE I DIDN'T OVERSTATE, I HOPE IT HAPPENS AND OTHERWISE I'LL LOOK RIDICULOUS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MOSTLY TELL YOU ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKET. AND PLEASE GO. IT'S
GOING TO BE EVERY WEDNESDAY, 2 TO 7 ON GREEN LANE. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE COMMENT? THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS. 
          [I. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS]
OUR FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A PROPOSAL OF SUPPORT AND
PARTNERSHIP CONSIDERATIONS FROM REDONDO BALLET COMPANY. 
          IF I MAY, WHERE WE LAST LEFT OFF, THERE WAS A DIRECTION,
A REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION FOR ME TO PROVIDE SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION, SINCE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THEIR REQUEST AND PROPOSAL HAD FINANCIAL IMPACT,
AND I WAS ASKED HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE. 
          SO I DID A ROUND UP SOME FIGURES SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK FROM. 
          I STARTED WITH THE, THERE ARE BIG PRODUCTIONS AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          THEY'VE REQUESTED A REDUCTION IN RENT AND AN ELIMINATION OF THE MAINTENANCE SURCHARGE. 
          AND I DID A BASIC VERSION OF THEIR CLOSING ACCOUNTING FOR PRODUCTION OF SNOW QUEEN. 
          THERE ARE TWO SHOWS HAVE REMARKABLY SIMILAR TIME PATTERNS AND COST FACTORS,
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THROUGH THE PAGES. 
          THEY DO TWO PERFORMANCES, TWO PRODUCTIONS A YEAR. 
          AND THIS ONE CAME TO A LITTLE OVER 28,000 BASED ON OUR MASTER FEE SCHEDULE AT THE
NONPROFIT RATE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY NORMALLY PAY. I DID A SECOND ONE THAT WOULD IF IT WERE TO REMOVE THE
SURCHARGE AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF REDUCTION, I JUST ARBITRARILY SELECTED HALF,
HALF OF THE RENT. 
          SO, THEY'D COME UP IN CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST SO I FIGURED IT WAS A FAIR
PLACE TO START. 
          AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO CAME OUT TO $5,073 IN REDUCED FEES PAID TO THE CITY IF THEY HAD THAT PARTICULAR SET OF THEIR PROPOSAL APPROVED,
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE OTHER ITEM. THERE WERE TWO OTHER ITEMS THAT HAD COST. 
          ONE WAS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS IN PARKS WITHOUT PAYING THE
FILMING PERMIT. 
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AND THAT'S A, I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE,
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE SMALL PARKS, THAT PRICE RANGES FROM $600 TO $10,000. AND IN THE LARGER PARKS FROM 1,500 TO 10,000. 
          CONSIDERING SUCH A RANGE, I SPOKE TO THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY SETS THE FEES. 
          I SAID, THOSE ARE REALLY SET UP AT THE LARGE END FOR LARGE SCALE PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTIONS
THAT TAKE THE USE OF THE PARK AWAY FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTS. 
          SO THAT'S RARELY CHARGED. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AN AVERAGE OF $2,500. 
          AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE LESS IF IT'S A VERY SMALL IMPACT TO THE PARK. 
          AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IF IT'S VERY LARGE. 
          SO I WOULD CONSIDER $2,500 TO BE A GOOD ESTIMATE OF WHAT A FILM PERMIT WOULD COST. 
          SO IF THERE WERE TO BE WAIVING OF THAT, IT WOULD BE $2,500 PER INCIDENT PER USAGE. 
          THE LAST ONE THEY ASKED FOR WAS TO WAIVE BUILDING PERMIT FEES FOR PUTTING UP BANNERS ON
STREET POLES ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD TO ADVERTISE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS WAIST DEEP
IN BUDGET PROCESS AND WAS NOT ABLE TO GET BACK TO ME ON WHAT THOSE COST. I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS SET BY THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT,
AND HE'S EXTREMELY BUSY PUTTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET. 
          I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU SOON. 
          CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? DO WE KNOW WHAT THEIR REVENUES ARE FROM THOSE PERFORMANCES? NO, WE DO NOT ATTRACT ANYBODY'S MONEY. THE CITY DOES NOT TAKE A PERCENTAGE AND THEREFORE
WE DO NOT TRACK. 
          WE BASICALLY DEPEND ON A FLAT RATE AS PROVIDED BY THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE. 
          THAT MEANS IF THEY DON'T SELL, WE DON'T LOSE MONEY. 
          RIGHT, BUT. SO THEY DON'T REPORT TO US. NO, NO,
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT IS IT INAPPROPRIATE TO ASK THEM WHAT THEIR REVENUES ARE FROM THOSE PERFORMANCES? ONLY BECAUSE IF THEY GENERATE AND I'M MAKING THIS UP. 
          BUT IF THEY GENERATE $50,000 AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE ASKING FOR REDUCED COSTS,
BUT THEIR REVENUES ARE STILL QUITE HIGH. 
          I MEAN, WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THEM FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION COMING AND REQUESTING THE SAME
TYPE OF LENIENCIES. 
          WELL, THERE IS WHY YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD
SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. THEY'RE ASKING TO BE DECLARED THE OFFICIAL BALLET COMPANY OF REDONDO BEACH,
AND THEREFORE THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD GET THIS PARTICULAR SPECIAL TREATMENT. UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL. 
          AND WHILE WE CAN'T SPEAK TO THEIR REVENUE OR PROFITS,
WE CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THEY MENTIONED WHEN THEY WERE HERE THAT THEY ARE A NONPROFIT. SO THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A HELP IN THE REDUCTION OF FEES IN A PARTNERSHIP. 
          JACK, THAT FIRST NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE 5,073 THAT HAPPENS TWICE A YEAR. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 10,000 FOR THE YEAR. 
          YEAH. OKAY. YES. SO AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION TO US LAST MEETING,
WE JUST HAD ASKED JACK FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH TO PARTNER WITH THEM,
AND WHAT WE THOUGHT IF IT WAS WORTHWHILE SENDING IT TO COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHTS NOW THAT YOU KNOW? AND SHOULD I POINT OUT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR PROPOSALS. 
          YOU COULD, IT COULD BE A SUBSET OF THEM IF YOU SO DESIRED. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT OR NOT. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU. 
          I DON'T THINK THEY ARE ASKING FOR, TO BE AN OFFICIAL BALLET COMPANY OF REDONDO BEACH. 
          I THINK THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN ENDORSEMENT FROM THE MAYOR AS RBC. 
          I DON'T THINK THEY ARE ASKING FOR EXCLUSIVITY IN ANY MANNER. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. 
          THE PHRASE THEY USED WAS THEY WOULD LIKE THE MAYOR TO DECLARE THEM AS THE OFFICIAL REDONDO
BEACH BALLET COMPANY. 
          WELL, IN THE PRESENTATION THEY GAVE US, IT SAYS OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT OF RBC FROM THE CITY
OF REDONDO BEACH MAYOR. 
          I THINK THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I HOPE THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE BALLET COMPANY
AND ONE OF THEM IS OFFICIAL AND THE OTHER ONES ARE NOT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BASICALLY ASKING FOR EXCLUSIVITY. 
          SO WHEN WE DO OUR CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS,
WE SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE HOPEFULLY OTHER THEATER AND DANCE COMPANIES WILL POP UP WITHIN REDONDO BEACH AND THEY WILL COME IN FRONT OF US AND ASK FOR. 
          WE WILL HAVE TO ASK THEM TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS HOW THEY
MEAN IT. 
          WELL, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION YOU JUST SHARED WITH US. 
          IT'S NUMBER ONE OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT OF RBC FROM THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH MAYOR. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK TO ME THAT IS BASICALLY A PROCLAMATION OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT, 
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SAYING THAT, OKAY, WE RECOGNIZE YOU. MY SON IS ONE OF THEM,
I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO WHAT THAT WOULD, THAT INTERPRETATION WOULD IMPLY THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE COULD BE ASKING
FOR THE SAME DEAL. 
          YES, EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION,
SO WE KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          THANK YOU. CAN WE GO BACKWARDS JUST FOR A SECOND? ABOUT THE BANNERS. THE CITY PUTS UP BANNERS IN SOUTH REDONDO RIVIERA VILLAGE. 
          I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THEY CHARGED FOR THOSE BANNERS THAT THEY
PUT UP. 
          THOSE ARE BY THE BID. THOSE ARE BY THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. 
          THAT'S. REALLY? YEAH. THEY WORK HARD. THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION WORKS REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY HARD. 
          AND THEY DESERVE EVERY BIT OF THAT COMMUNITY,
WHAT THEY DO. 
          IT'S I HOPE I GIVE GIVE STRENGTH TO HOPEFULLY NORTH REDONDO TO,
TO DO THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT THAT'S ALL FOR THE UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO ON FURTHER WITH THAT TO. 
          NO, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO I'M LEARNING HERE. 
          YEAH. I, IS THERE ANY FURTHER, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS,
ABOUT THESE FEES, THE AMOUNTS. I THINK, BASED FOR ME BASED ON THEIR PRESENTATION WITH US AT OUR LAST
MEETING. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY NICE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE REDONDO BEACH BALLET COMPANY AND THE
CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. 
          I'M JUST ESTIMATING HERE THAT THEY MIGHT DO TWO SHOOTS,
MAYBE THREE SHOOTS A YEAR. 
          I'M THINKING MAYBE ONE FOR EACH OF THEIR PRODUCTIONS IS WHERE I'M COMING UP WITH THE TWO. 
          MAYBE A THIRD. I DON'T KNOW WHY, JUST IN CASE. 
          SO THAT'S ABOUT $7,000. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 FOR THE SURCHARGE. 
          AND THE BANNERS WE JUST DON'T KNOW. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SOMEWHERE AROUND $20,000 IN
PARTNERSHIP IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN FEES. 
          I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY FAIR THING TO SEND TO COUNCIL. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS ANY FURTHER. IF WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO. I
JUT WANT TO ADD ONE THING, I MEAN, JUST I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY SET UP AN EXAMPLE HERE TO ENCOURAGE FUTURE NON-FOR PROFITS ART ORGANIZATIONS FROM REDONDO BEACH TO PERFORM IN
REDONDO BEACH AND YOU KNOW, TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A NOT FOR PROFIT RATE AND A PROFIT
RATE FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, BUT THAT NOT FOR PROFIT RATE IS FOR EVERYBODY,
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, COMPANIES FROM LOS ANGELES, YOU KNOW,
NEW YORK OR SO. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. WE SHOULD REALLY GIVE AS MUCH INCENTIVE AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE COMPANIES
FROM REDONDO BEACH. 
          AND I THINK THE REDONDO BEACH, REDONDO BEACH DANCE COMPANY IS AN ESTABLISHED BUSINESS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE FOR US TO SHOW IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I'M ALL FOR IT. I'M EVEN FOR LIKE COMPLETELY ELIMINATING THE PARKS FEE,
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF THEY WANT TO FILM IN THE PARKS, IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR OUR PARKS. 
          UNLESS THEY DAMAGE SOMETHING, THEY CAN PAY, YOU KNOW,
BUT IF THEY ARE NOT DAMAGING SOMETHING. 
          WHY CHARGE THEM MONEY? YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, THOUGH, YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENCE THEN. 
          LIKE IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY, THEN OTHER NOT FOR PROFITS DON'T HAVE TO PAY. 
          AND THEN PERHAPS IT EVEN FALLS DOWN TO MAYBE EVEN FOR PROFITS THAT SAY,
OH, WE HAVE A DIVISION THAT'S NOT FOR PROFIT. 
          SO, WELL, I THINK IT IS A LOVELY PARTNERSHIP. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IN GIVING THEM EVERYTHING BECAUSE THAT SETS A PRECEDENCE. 
          AND THEN REGARDLESS IF THEY'RE FOR PROFIT OR NOT FOR PROFIT,
IT'S STILL A BUSINESS AND THEY STILL HAVE REVENUES AND THEY STILL THEY THEY STILL NEED TO RUN. IT'S STILL A BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S A NOT FOR PROFIT OR A FOR PROFIT COMPANY. 
          SO I WOULDN'T I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT THEY STILL NEED TO PAY A FEE TO HAVE TO FILM IN THE PARK. 
          OKAY. YOU MIGHT ALSO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER PROPOSAL ITEMS THEY HAVE THAT ARE
NOT COST BASED, AND MAKE SURE YOU AGREE WITH THOSE AS WELL. THEY WERE LOOKING AT A VARIETY OF THINGS WE
ALREADY DO PROVIDE AS FAR AS ADVERTISING GOES, BUT ONE OF THEM WE DO NOT, WHICH IS ADVERTISING ON THE CABLE TV CHANNEL. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ALLOWED OR NOT, BUT WE DON'T DO THAT AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT WE DO PROVIDE THE WEBSITE ADVERTISEMENT. WE DO PROVIDE A LISTING EASY READER ALONG
WITH OTHER THEATER EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING. BUT SEE IF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU THINK YOU WANT TO
ENDORSE AS WELL. 
          THEY'RE ASKING FOR TO BE INVITED TO RIBBON CUTTINGS AND CITY FUNCTIONS TO PERFORM. 
          THAT'S NOT A COST FACTOR TO THAT. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU SHOULD DECIDE WHICH,
IF ANY, OR ALL YOU WISH TO ENDORSE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO IF WE PULL UP. 
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JACK, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          IF WE PULL UP THE LETTER AND PROPOSAL TO THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH,
IS THAT WHERE WE SHOULD START? YES. OKAY. SO IF WE ALL PULL THAT UP, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE SIX ITEMS HERE. 
          DO WE JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH 1 THROUGH 6 AND WE CAN ALL VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD
LIKE EACH OF THESE TO GO FORWARD. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. SO FOR NUMBER ONE,
THE OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT OF RBC FROM THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH MAYOR, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF IT'S OUR PLACE TO VOTE ON THAT SHOULD NOT DIRECTLY GO TO THE
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO WE, CORRECT US IF WE'RE WRONG JACK, PLEASE. 
          I THINK THAT WE ARE JUST VOTING WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SEND THESE IDEAS AND THIS
PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL. 
          NO, THEY WOULD SEND THAT. THEY WOULD DO THAT THEMSELVES. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET ON THE
AGENDA AND MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEY ARE BACKED WITH THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE CULTURAL
ARTS COMMISSION. 
          AND SO YOU MAY WANT TO DO THAT AS THE MAYOR ADDRESSED TO YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          NO, JULY. HE SUGGESTED THAT YOU THAT YOU VOTE UNDER K FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU
WANT TO GET TO THE COUNCIL AND THAT THOSE WOULD BE WATCHED FOR AND THAT, THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD OBTAIN DIRECTION OR
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          SO MAYBE UNDER ITEM K, YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT VOTE IF YOU WANT TO. 
          SO WE SHOULD HOLD THIS UNTIL. WE COULD DO IT NOW. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SEEN. I SEE. 
          OKAY. SO I AM JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST THESE SIX YOU GUYS. 
          WE WILL GO THROUGH AT THE END AT K AND WE WILL VOTE FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS
SEEN BY COUNCIL. 
          ALTERNATELY YOU COULD WRITE A LETTER THAT THEY TO THEM ENDORSING IT AND THEY CAN TAKE IT. 
          OKAY. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT OF RBC FROM THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH
MAYOR. 
          THE ACTION FOR A REDUCTION OF THE THEATER FACILITIES FEES,
WHICH WE SAID WAS ABOUT $10,000 A YEAR. 
          THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SHARED INVESTMENT IN RESTORING THE PUBLIC ART MURAL WALL FACING
SLAUSON ON THE BUILDING, LOCATED AT 2228 ARTESIA BOULEVARD. THEY'RE ASKING FOR CITY SUPPORT AND COMPLIMENTARY
MARKETING AND ADVERTISING EVENTS SUCH AS DIGITAL PROMOTION ON THEIR WEBSITE, EASY READERS SHOW ADVERTISEMENTS,
COMMERCIALS ON LOCAL CABLE STATIONS, ETC. 
          AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR STRATEGIC INVITATIONS FOR THEIR DANCERS TO PERFORM AT LOCAL CITY
EVENTS, MUSIC IN THE PARK, TREE LIGHTING, PUMPKINS BY THE SEA,
ETC.. 
          SO THOSE ARE THEIR SIX ITEMS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR US TO ENDORSE THEM OR COUNCIL TO
ENDORSE THEM. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT, IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION,
OTHERWISE WE CAN COME BACK WHEN WE GET TO ITEM K AND VOTE ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT. TODAY? TODAY. OKAY. SURE. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE,
WE CAN MOVE ON TO. 
          COMMENTS. PUBLIC COMMENTS. PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE. YEAH. GO FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. 
          OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MANY NONPROFITS ALREADY HAVE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED
EXTREMELY GENEROUS AMOUNTS OF YOU KNOW, MONEY FROM THE CITY AND WAIVERS FROM THE CITY AND THEY'VE RECEIVED
THEM. 
          SO JUST, JUST BE AWARE. IT'S NOT SETTING, REALLY SETTING A PRECEDENT IN GENERAL,
YOU GUYS WILL VOTE THE WAY YOU VOTE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING ONE IN PARTICULAR, I CAN'T SAY WHO IT IS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I'M CALLING
HIM OUT, BUT ABOUT 25,000 FOR SOMETHING. SO I DON'T THINK THE PRECEDENT IS ALWAYS THERE,
IS ALREADY THERE. 
          AND POSSIBLY FOR THE BANNERS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK NORTH REDONDO BEACH BUSINESS
ASSOCIATION, I THINK THEY DID REALLY WELL WITH THE SPRING FEST. SO MAYBE THEY MIGHT. 
          I THINK THEY WOULD BE WILLING. I MEAN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM,
BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED. 
          THERE'S ONE OTHER THING TOO, THAT ONE OF OUR LAST THE GENTLEMAN THAT LEFT THAT WAS SERVING
BEFORE YOU, HE WAS WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND HE WAS THERE PUBLIC ART OR,
YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMISSIONER FOR CULTURAL ARTS. 
          AND HE SAID TO ME THAT THE WAY THEY DID IT IS ALL THEIR PEOPLE IN THE CITY WERE
NON-PROFITS. 
          AND THE ONLY IT WAS REAL SIMPLE. AND THEN THEY WOULD GET MONEY. 
          THE MONEY THAT THEY WOULD BUDGET WAS DOLED OUT IN WHATEVER WAY TO THEIR NONPROFITS. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THEY HELPED THEM. AND THEN THE NON-PROFITS JUST WENT ON THEIR WAY AND DID
THEIR THING. JUST THE LAST POINT TOO, IS AS A CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, I THINK BECOMING PARTNERS WITH THE DANCERS OR WITH THE
BALLET COMPANY IS WONDERFUL BECAUSE IT IS CULTURAL ARTS AND IT WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER ARTS. LIKE, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE SOMEDAY THIS WILL OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR A CHILDREN'S CHOIR, 
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A CHILDREN'S THEATER OR ADULT CHOIR, AND THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ALREADY WANT
TO LEAD THAT. 
          SO THIS IS EXCITING. I READ THIS ON THE AGENDA AND I'M SO THERE. 
          WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? THANK YOU. SO THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY A PROPOSAL AND A PRESENTATION
BY THEM. 
          I DID WE RECEIVE AND FILE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE DID. 
          I THINK WE JUST EXTENDED OR POSTPONED OR CONTINUED THE ITEM. 
          YES. SO AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD PROBABLY RECEIVE AND FILE THEIR PROPOSAL. 
          I AGREE. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I MAKE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. I'M SORRY IF THERE ARE OTHER NOT FOR PROFITS WHO ARE GETTING FUNDS ON LARGER SCALES. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE A MORE LIKE SPECIFIC LIKE,
IS THERE A WAY ONE TO FIND OUT WHO'S GETTING WHAT AND TO TRY AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY THOUGHTFUL STRATEGIC SYSTEM AS TO LIKE HOW
THESE ORGANIZATIONS GET WHAT I MEAN? ARE YOU ASKING IF OTHERS ARE GETTING ANY SPECIAL DEALS AT THIS TIME? WELL, YEAH. AND LIKE, IF WE CAN HAVE LIKE A SPECIFIC WAY TO LIKE SET IT UP SO THAT WHEN
ORGANIZATIONS COME AND MAKE REQUESTS, WE CAN SAY, OKAY, I'M MAKING THIS UP. BUT LIKE,
IF THIS ORGANIZATION IS WITHIN THESE GUIDELINES, THEY GET A, IF THEY'RE WITHIN THESE GUIDELINES,
THEY CAN GET. 
          B IF THEY'RE WITHIN THESE GUIDELINES, THEY CAN GET. C LIKE,
IS THERE ANY TYPE OF FORMAT OR GUIDELINES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE? NO, THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE. SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST. 
          AND SO THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO IT. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THE COST FACTORS OF IT,
AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY REDIRECT STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THE STRUCTURE OF IT. 
          ONLY BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHILE THERE'S REDONDO BEACH DOES HAVE IT CAN BE AN
AFFLUENT COMMUNITY. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR CITY HAS A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND. 
          SO AS WE GIVE AWAY MONEY, LIKE MONEY, LIKE IT'S A,
IT'S A CYCLE, WHAT COMES IN MUST GO OUT AND IT'S A CONTINUOUS CYCLE. 
          BUT IF WE'RE JUST CONTINUOUSLY GIVING MONEY,
WHERE'S THE MONEY? HOW'S IT COMING BACK? IF I CAN INTERJECT? SO AT OUR LAST MEETING,
THERE WERE SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS THROWN AROUND WHERE IT'S NOT JUST GIVING, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. AND THERE WAS TALK WITH,
YOU KNOW, NORTH REDONDO BEACH BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND THE REDONDO BEACH BALLET COMPANY AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKING A WEEKEND OUT OF IT. 
          AND WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF THERE WAS A DINE AROUND ARTESIA AND PULLING IN NORTH REDONDO
BEACH RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES AND HAVING THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN TO SEE THE BALLET TO ALSO THEN GO AND SPEND MONEY WITHIN OUR
CITY. 
          SO IT WAS A GREAT WAY. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REALLY GOOD BEGINNING OF A PARTNERSHIP THAT,
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY MORE PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND SEE THIS AND WILL BE EXCITED TO SPEND TIME IN
REDONDO BEACH AND WILL SPEND MONEY HERE. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A LET'S JUST GIVE THIS AWAY. WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT IT'S A LONG TERM
PARTNERSHIP. 
          RIGHT, I DON'T DISCOUNT THE PARTNERSHIP AND I THINK PARTNERSHIPS ARE GREAT,
BUT A PARTNERSHIP THERE'S RECIPROCITY IN A PARTNERSHIP. 
          LIKE IT'S NOT JUST LIKE I GIVE AND YOU TAKE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT,
WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD DO, WE SHOULD CREATE SOMETHING WITH THEM. THEY'RE NOT,
THEY'RE NOT THE FIRST AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF GUIDELINES IN PLACE,
THEN WE WON'T BE SITTING HERE FUMBLING EACH TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GIVING THEM TOO MUCH OR IF WE'RE NOT AGREEING ON THE RIGHT TERMS,
OR THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM. 
          THERE IT'S NOT. RIGHT, THERE'S NOT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD CONSIDER
CREATING ONE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS THE REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          SO SHOWS THAT THEY PUT ON YEARLY THREE TIMES A YEAR,
MAYBE THE SAME SHOWS. 
          I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THEM, SO HAVE I. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. 
          THEY'RE ALL VERY WELL DONE. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST SORRY NOT TO SAY THE REDONDO
DANCE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE MERIT BECAUSE I'VE WATCHED THEM ON MANY OCCASIONS. 
          BUT THE SHOWS THAT THEY PUT ON BASED VERSUS THE REDONDO BEACH,
THE REDONDO DANCE COMPANY ARE THEY'RE APPLES AND ORANGES. NO, BUT TO ME, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S ABOUT CREATING A SYSTEM IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COME AND ASK US TO
BE PARTNERS OR, THEY WOULD LIKE US TO REDUCE THEIR COSTS. WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE
WE'RE NOT PLAYING FAVORITES. 
          IT'S LIKE, HERE ARE OUR GUIDELINES AND WHERE DO YOU FALL INTO THEM? 
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AND THEN THEREFORE, WE'RE BEING FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD AS OPPOSED TO LIKE,
YOU GET MORE THAN THIS ONE. 
          COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO UPDATE. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REDONDO
BALLET COMPANY AND ABOUT THE 6, JUST SO THAT WAY, SINCE OUR, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER ENTERED,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE ANOTHER HEAD TO TALK TO DISCUSS ABOUT IT. 
          SO MY THINKING IS, SO THEY DON'T GET EXCLUSIVITY? MAYBE WE ADD NUMBER SEVEN. IF NUMBER ONE IS THEY WANT TO BE THE OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT. NO, OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT DOESN'T MEAN EXCLUSIVITY. 
          YEAH, IT DOESN'T SAY EXCLUSIVITY. IT BASICALLY SAYS THE MAYOR RECOGNIZES THAT SUCH A
COMPANY EXISTS IN REDONDO BEACH. 
          THAT'S IT. AND THEY PROBABLY WILL TAKE THAT PROCLAMATION AND HANG IT ON THEIR WALL OR PUT
IT ON YOUR WEBSITE. 
          THAT'S IT. WHICH I THINK IS IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. 
          OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. YOU COULD MAKE YOUR PROPOSAL WITH THAT PROVISO IS
THAT YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS NOT AN EXCLUSIVE THING, THAT OTHER WORTHY COMPANIES MAY RECEIVE A SIMILAR
ENDORSEMENT. 
          YES. YOU CAN MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR ENDORSEMENT IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT. 
          OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IS WHEN YOU GET AROUND TO TALKING TO COMMISSIONER ORHAN'S
INFORMATION ON MANHATTAN BEACH THAT HAS MADE SOME CHANGES. MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT THAT MAYBE THESE BECOME SPECIFIC
SCHOLARSHIPS OR GIFTS AS OPPOSED TO AFFECTING REVENUES DIRECTLY. SO THE MONEY SIMPLY COMES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          OKAY. SO THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS HERE. 
          EVEN BEFORE THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER 4, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS RESTORATION OF A MURAL IN
A PUBLIC ART MURAL THAT WE CAN ALREADY PAY FROM OUR PUBLIC ARTS FUND IF WE WANT TO. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT PUBLIC SPACE, IT'S A PRIVATE BUILDING AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. IT'S JUST FACING SLAUSON LANE? YES, BUT IT'S I BELIEVE IT'S ON THEIR BUILDING. 
          IT IS. YES. SO PAID FOR BY THEM ON THEIR BUILDING. 
          IT IS NOT THEIR PRIVATE BUILDING. SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM ABOUT
UPKEEP ON THE MURAL, WOULD THAT BE RIGHT? YEAH, THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ON PROPERTIES THAT IF THEY
CHANGED HANDS, IT WOULD JUST GET TORN DOWN PERHAPS THEY WANT TO HAVE CONTROL OVER IT. 
          OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE CANNOT BE A VARIANCE. 
          AND SO IF THE COUNCIL WISHED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF SUCH A THING,
THEY PERFECTLY WELL CAN. 
          OKAY. AND IT COULD BE A ONE TIME REFRESH THE MURAL. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          YEAH.. OI JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW,
WE ACT AS AN ADVISORY BODY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TOO. 
          SO WE'RE NOT INDEPENDENTLY IN CONTROL OF THE SPENDING APPROVALS. 
          SO. THEY CAN ASK YOU CAN AGREE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNCIL WILL OR WILL NOT. 
          THEY MAY VERY WELL AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU'RE FREE TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS
INFORMATION? I MOVE. I SECOND. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY AND PROMOTE PUBLIC ART OPTIONS ON THE
ESPLANADE. 
          SO AT THE LAST MEETING WE EXTENDED THIS. I WAS ASKED TO TALK TO THE WELL,
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF WHAT TYPES OF ART WOULD GO WELL ON THE ESPLANADE. AND ONE FEATURED STRONGLY WAS COMPLETION OF THE BOLLARDS,
THE MOSAIC BOLLARDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY CREATED BY DP MOSAICS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THE ARTISTS ARE HERE TONIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD BE MISS PATRICE LINETT, AND DEBORAH COLETTE. 
          SO THAT'S YOUR D AND B, AND THEY THE FIRST THING WE NEEDED TO DO WAS TO FIND OUT IF WE
WERE PERMITTED TO WORK IN A, YOU KNOW, A NONCOMPETITIVE OR A NON-REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SYSTEM. 
          I MADE THAT REQUEST OF THE CITY'S CHIEF PURCHASING ANALYST,
AND HE TOLD ME THAT IN THIS SITUATION, HE WOULD CONSIDER THAT VALID BECAUSE IT IS A PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY STARTED. 
          THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS PERFORMING ARTS COMMISSION. 
          HE WOULD CONSIDER IT SIMPLY COMPLETION OF AN OF AN ALREADY ACCEPTED DESIGN AND ELEMENT. 
          IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE TO GO OUT UNLESS THE GOAL WAS TO CREATE A COMPLETE
DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE SIDES AND DIFFERENT ARTISTS. 
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BUT SINCE THIS WAS A DESIGN THAT INTENDED TO DO ALL FOUR SIDES. 
          HE SAID THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM WITH OFFERING A PROPOSAL. 
          SO THIS YOU HAVE FUNDING FROM THE PROJECT AND YOU HAVE ARTISTS WHO ARE WILLING TO DO
SOMETHING. 
          THEY HAVE SENT US A THREE PROPOSALS, ONE OF WHICH IS THEIR STRONG PREFERENCE. 
          AND I HAVE A LITTLE QUICK POWERPOINT TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. 
          WONDERFUL, JACK. THANKS. SO THE ORIGINAL GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2010,
WHICH IS HOW LONG THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GESTATING, WAS AN ORIGINAL OUTDOOR REQUEST,
AN RFP. 
          AND IT WAS THESE PARTICULAR BOLLARDS HERE, WHICH CAME CONSTRUCTED WITH FOUR INDENTATIONS,
ONE ON EACH SIDE TO INSTALL SPECIFICALLY ART. THE PROJECT WAS AWARDED TO D&P. 
          AND THESE ARE THE SOME OF THEIR EARLY DESIGN ITEMS EXPLAINS WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO ON JUST
A FEW OF THEM WAS THE IDEAS SMALL SEA CREATURES ON ONE SIDE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE,
CLOSE UPS, EXPANSIONS OF THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE BECAME. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY THEY USED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
MEDIA. 
          THERE'S A GLASS CABOCHONS ON THERE AND AND TILE THAT'S ON AVENUE C ON AVENUE A. 
          THEY EXPANDED THAT INTO SEASHELLS AND OTHER MATERIALS,
AND THEN IT'S KEPT ON GROWING AVENUE F. 
          I DON'T HAVE BOTH SIDES OF THOSE PHOTOS. I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. AND THEN AVENUE I HAS THIS ONE SOLO SUN MOON PIECE,
WHICH IS JUST DELIGHTFUL. 
          AND THEN AT VISTA DEL MAR. SO ALTOGETHER THERE ARE 22 BOLLARDS,
EACH WITH TWO SIDES, COMPLETED AND TWO SIDES UNTOUCHED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE BLANK,
LIKE BARE CONCRETE. 
          THE PROPOSALS THAT DEBORAH AND PATRICE HAVE PROPOSED ARE TO REUSE THE CURRENT DESIGNS, WHICH I ACTUALLY GOT THE PRICE WRONG. 
          I SWAPPED THAT. SORRY. THAT'S MY MISTAKE. THAT'S THE $700 PER BOLLARD. 
          22 BOLLARDS. TOTAL OF $15,400. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 700,
NOT A 1000. 
          AND BASICALLY REPLICATE THE DESIGNS SO THEY CAN BE SEEN FROM ALL SIDES. 
          THE OTHER OPTIONS THEY OFFERED WERE TO JUST USE AN ABSTRACT COLOR MIX SO THAT YOU'RE NOT
LOOKING AT BARE CONCRETE. 
          YOU HAVE, YOU STILL HAVE A MOSAIC, BUT IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC DESIGN. 
          AND THEN THE LAST OPTION WAS TO DO ALL NEW DESIGNS ON THE TWO NEW SIDES. 
          AND THAT WAS $1,000 A PIECE, WHICH IS WHY THE TOTAL IS $22,000. 
          HOWEVER, YOU HAVE KEEP IN MIND YOU'VE ALLOCATED AND NOT TO EXCEED FIGURE AT THIS POINT OF
20,000, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THAT. OKAY. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. 
          DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO ALL OF MY BABBLE? SURE. CAN. YEAH. CAN THEY. PLEASE. YES, PLEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING US. I'M DEBBIE COLETTE. 
          I'M PATTY LINETT. AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE REVISITING THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO
CONTINUALLY ASKED, WHY ARE THERE BLANK SQUARES? AND SPECIFICALLY,
THIS PHOTO SHOWS EXACTLY WHY. 
          BECAUSE HONESTLY, IF YOU'RE WALKING THE ESPLANADE,
THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE. 
          YOU JUST SEE THE BLANK. SO UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT AND YOU'RE
FACING ALL FIVE, THEN YOU SEE IT. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY GO TO THE STREET SIDE
AND FACE THE OCEAN TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE. 
          SO OUR INTENT IS SENSORS, FOUR SIDES. EACH SIDE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT DESIGN. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY. 
          SO IT'LL JUST BE A WONDERFUL CONTINUATION. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE ALL OF THE BOLLARDS
EACH WAY COMING AND GOING ON THE ESPLANADE. 
          SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE SUPPORTING USING THE DESIGNS
THAT ARE THERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM EITHER WAY THAT THEY'RE WALKING AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT USING EXISTING DESIGNS THAT WE
HAVE, JACK, CAN WE GO BACK A SLIDE OR TWO AND SEE THE DESIGNS ON 1 STREET? PERFECT. RIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT AVENUE CU1,
TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE, THERE'S FIVE BOLLARDS THAT I SEE HERE. SO WOULD YOU JUST HAVE SAY FOR THE SEAHORSE,
WOULD YOU PUT THE SEAHORSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OR WOULD YOU TAKE THESE FIVE DESIGNS AND JUST 
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PLACE THEM DIFFERENTLY? RIGHT, SO EACH, EACH BOLLARD WOULD HAVE ON THE FOUR SIDES WOULD
HAVE A DIFFERENT DESIGN. 
          OKAY. AND SO IT WOULD FOLLOW THE SEQUENCE AS YOU SEE IT HERE AND THEN OPPOSITE IN
DIRECTION. 
          SO IT'S ACTUALLY. IT'S DESIGNED FOR THAT. IT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT,
SO. 
          I CAN EXPLAIN IT, BUT IT'S EASIER TO VISUALIZE IT. 
          YEAH. BUT IT IS DESIGNED FOR IT THAT WAY. THE FRONT AND BACK AND THEN BEING ABLE TO WALK
AND SEE IT. 
          BUT OF COURSE IT NEVER GOT TO THAT. SO YOU HAD A MASTER PLAN AND IT WAS TO USE THESE
EXISTING DESIGNS AND TO HAVE THEM. 
          RIGHT. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND THEN SO EACH SET ENDED UP BEING THEIR OWN COLLECTIVE
STYLE, RIGHT? LIKE THIS SET ON SEE, SO WE WOULD CONTINUE THIS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE OTHER ONE,
LIKE THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER SLIDES. YES, YES. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? THESE WOULD BE FINISHED ALL THE WAY AROUND. THEN THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN THESE ALL THE WAY AROUND. RIGHT. NOT FOR ME. 
          JUST SO EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS THE. YES. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH ALL,
SO. 
          YEAH, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU'RE WALKING OR LOOKING,
YOU WILL SEE ALL FOUR OF THOSE DESIGNS NO MATTER WHAT. 
          SO IT MAKES SENSE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM IN THAT ORDER. 
          THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. AS THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE ESPLANADE,
TOGETHER WITH MY VICE CHAIR. 
          WHEN WE FIRST WENT TO THE ESPLANADE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON,
WE WERE ACCOMPANIED BY MY WIFE JUST AS AN ORDINARY CITIZEN. 
          AND THERE WAS THE FIRST THING SHE SAID. SHE SAID,
THESE TWO THINGS ARE MISSING. 
          SO, I MEAN, EVEN, YOU KNOW, REGULAR CITIZENS CAN SEE THAT. 
          SO I'M VERY HAPPY THAT DISCUSSION HAS REACHED THIS PARTICULAR STAGE. 
          WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU WAS IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH A NEW DESIGN,
WHAT KIND OF A THEMATIC, WHAT KIND OF A THEMES WOULD YOU BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ALL, YOU KNOW, SEA NATURE, THAT KIND OF STUFF. DEFINITELY. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED,
FOR EXAMPLE, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE, THE DIVERSITY OR IS THIS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE? I THINK THOSE ARE LOVELY IDEAS, AND FOR SURE THAT'D BE SOMETHING FUN TO EXPLORE,
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE INCONGRUENT WITH WHAT'S ALREADY UP THERE. 
          OKAY. IT'S LIKE, WHY DOES THIS WHY ARE THESE TOGETHER? THEY DON'T GO TOGETHER. SO GOTCHA. YEAH, I DON'T THINK. 
          SO, EVEN NEW DESIGN WOULD THEN BE ALSO THE SEA AND THE SUN AND THE BEACH THEME. 
          WOULD THAT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION? RIGHT, YES. OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE NOT PROMOTING THAT TOO IS,
IS IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS AGAIN. 
          SURE. WE'D HAVE TO SHOW THE DESIGNS. THEY'D HAVE TO BE APPROVED AGAIN AND THEN PROBABLY
VOTED ON AGAIN. 
          AND, AND I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE OR NOT DIFFERENCE,
BUT JUST THE FACT THAT THE FLOW OF IT WOULD CHANGE, I THINK COMPLETELY. OKAY. OKAY. 
          AND IS, I THINK JACK MENTIONED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU PERSONALLY PREFER AS ARTISTS. 
          DID I UNDERSTAND, AND. THAT'S TO JUST STICK WITH THE DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT THEY'D BE JUST OKAY, ROTATED AROUND THE BOTTOM. 
          OKAY. I'M ALL FINE. I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION. 
          SORRY. JUST THAT WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE THE BOLLARDS CLEANED? WOULD THAT BE A COST? DO YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM CLEANED? YES. WELL, THE CURRENT MOSAICS THAT WE HAVE THERE,
ARE THEY IN GOOD CONDITION? IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. THEY ARE IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION. YEAH. 
          YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO SURPRISES. WE GENERALLY TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND HOW ARE THE DOGS INTERACTING WITH. 
          ADHESION FOR THE MOSAIC, ANYWAY? ARE THE DOGS INTERACTING WITH THOSE BALLOTS? YES. NOT, NOT AS. NOT AS BAD AS. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. 
          YEAH. BUT OCCASIONALLY. OCCASIONALLY. OKAY. YES. 
          AND THEY DO THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE. ONE OF THEM GOT CRASHED INTO ONE TIME. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR IS AND PREVENT PEDESTRIANS FROM BEING HIT BY CARS OUT OF
CONTROL, SO. ONE LAST COMMENT, IF I MAY. THE WORK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE BUILDING,
THAT'S ALSO BY YOU, CORRECT? YEAH. IT'S IN THE NOTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. 
          YOU WEREN'T HERE, BUT I MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW,
I LOVE THAT ARTWORK. 
          IT'S FANTASTIC. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF A PARKING LOT AND CARS PARKED RIGHT
IN FRONT OF IT. 
          SO 99% OF THE TIME HALF OF THE ARTWORK IS NOT VISIBLE. 
          SO MY DREAM IS ACTUALLY TO TAKE THAT OUT FROM THERE AND MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ON THE ESPLANADE
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. 
          IT'S IN THE MINUTES. THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE YOU'LL FIND A PUBLIC OR A PRIVATE WALL AND WE JUST MOVE IT OVER THERE. 
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BECAUSE I THINK THEMATICALLY. MAYBE WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT SO THAT WE. 
          FIND A NEW WALL, WE DO NEW ART. YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? WELL, THEY ARE ON REMOVABLE PANELS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE REDONDO BEACH POLICE STATION
ISN'T CONSIDERING STAYING THERE. 
          YES, I KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF LOTS OF TALK AND THINGS BEING MOVED AROUND,
AND SPECIFICALLY SO THAT THEY COULD TAKE THOSE PANELS WITH THEM TO THE NEW STATION, AND PERHAPS IT WON'T BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PARKING AREA. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE GOING, BUT IT WOULD BE RELOCATED. 
          AND, AND MAYBE EVERY NOW AND THEN WHEN THE CARS GET CLEARED OUT. 
          IT IS NICE TO SEE IT ALL CLEAR. I HAVE TO CONFESS,
I PARKED MY CAR RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. 
          YOU HAD A BIRD'S EYE VIEW TONIGHT? YEAH. BIRD'S EYE VIEW. 
          THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE ARE SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. 
          I KNOW THE CITY IS. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT FROM US RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS? JUST THAT IF WE PROBABLY SHOULD, ARE WE ABLE THEN TO DISCUSS POSSIBLY RAISING,
YOU KNOW, THE COST? WELL, I THINK THAT THE FIRST KEEPING THE DESIGNS,
WHICH IS WHICH THE ARTISTS RECOMMENDED, COMES IN UNDER WHAT WE HAVE AS OUR BUDGET. IT COMES IN AT 15,000. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. 400. 15,400. 
          THANK YOU. SO THAT DOES COME IN WITH WITHIN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED FOR THAT. 
          SO I THINK WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE COULD EITHER HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT OR WE CAN
JUST GO AHEAD AND GO INTO A VOTE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE
FORWARD? COME ON. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ONLINE COMMENT? OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON WHICH WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO GO? WOULD WE LIKE TO VOTE ON KEEPING CURRENT ARTWORK? WHY DON'T WE LIKE TO VOTE ON ALL THREE? YEAH. 
          I LIKE THE CURRENT. OKAY. AND I LIKE THAT IT REMAINS CONSISTENT. 
          SO WE ALL AGREE THAT WE LIKE THE CONSISTENCY. 
          SO THAT WE JUST SO THAT WE JUST VOTE TO. YEAH. 
          SO IS THERE A MOTION TO, HELP ME WITH MY WORDING JACK IF I NEED IT PLEASE,
IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPOSAL ONE? WOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL. TO. THE PROPOSAL AT THE AMOUNT FOR THE,
YOU KNOW, AS DESCRIBED. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION TO SEND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL
NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,400 FOR 22, FOR THE 22 EXISTING BOLLARDS TO GET 44 NEW PANELS USING CURRENT DESIGNS TO
COUNCIL? I MOVE THAT WE, WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLD. IS THERE A SECOND? YES, I SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TANER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF SENDING THIS TO COUNCIL? AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. WE'RE OFF TO COUNCIL. WE'RE OFF TO COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. GO BACK TO SCREEN. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE NOW ON J, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE AND FILE OUR LIAISON REPORT. 
          [J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
JACK. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 
          OKAY. SO WE ARE ON THE JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THE JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND REPORT HAS WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS LOW
CONFIDENCE IN THE ACCURACY OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME
DIFFICULTIES WITH SOME NEW SOFTWARE THAT IS BEING USED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHO COLLECTS THE FEES. AND SO NOT EVERYTHING HAS MADE IT INTO THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM FOR ME TO
REVIEW. 
          I ASKED FOR UPDATES AND THEY SAID THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEM FOR ME,
BUT THEY'RE BURIED ON BUDGET ITEMS AND IT DID NOT MAKE IT IN TIME. 
          SO THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE THE PREVIOUS NUMBER OF DEPOSITS THAT WERE MADE IN
THE LAST TWO MONTHS. 
          THAT HASN'T CHANGED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW NUMBERS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE NEW DEPOSITS. THE ONLY THING I'VE ADDED HERE IS THE AMOUNT
THAT IS ACCURATE IS THE AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THE JOHN PARSONS ART 
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FUND FROM THE COMPLETION OF BOTH THE SKATE WAVES AND SEA CHATTER MURALS COMING IN UNDER
BUDGET, THAT MONEY SHOULD BE RETURNED. NOW, THIS IS MY BEST GUESS AT THIS POINT,
BASED ON THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO ME AS TO WHAT IS AVAILABLE. 
          SO I CAN'T GET YOU ANY MORE ACCURATE THAN THIS AT THIS TIME. 
          NOT UNTIL FINANCE GETS BACK TO ME WITH THE WITH WITH THE FINAL CORRECT NUMBERS. 
          THANK YOU JACK. AND SO THAT 83,000 DOES THAT INCLUDE SEA CHATTER AND SKATE WAVES BACK INTO
IT? CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S BASED ON WHAT I HAVE SO FAR. 
          YOUR BEST GUESS. YEAH. AND THAT'S ALSO WITH 5% MAINTENANCE FEE AS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC
ART ORDINANCE ALREADY REMOVED. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE 5% OFF OF THAT. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT, THAT'S AS CLOSE AS WE'VE GOT AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE
HAVE TO SPEND THAT IS NOT ALREADY ALLOCATED, IT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE, THE ESPLANADE,
BUT THERE COULD BE MORE. 
          WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW. I AM I RAN THIS ONE FIRST BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO HAVE SOME IDEA FOR WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO HAVE OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL REGARDING THE
BUDGET. 
          AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY POSTPONE MAKING THE BUDGET DECISIONS TILL MAY IF YOU WISH. I AM TOLD WE DON'T HAVE TO TURN THAT IN UNTIL JUST BEFORE
JUNE 1ST, WHICH MEANS MAYBE HAVE MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION FOR YOU OR HAVE YOU THINK OR DISCUSS IT
TODAY, BUT DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY DECIDE. AND THEN AS LONG AS WE GET IT TOGETHER REALLY
QUICKLY, AFTERWARDS, WE CAN GET IT TO THE COUNCIL IN TIME FOR THE BUDGET SESSION. 
          OKAY, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE,
THE OTHER ITEM IN J, WHICH IS TO MAKE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, WHETHER YOU WANT TO FINALIZE THOSE ON THE NEXT MEETING,
MAYBE WITH BETTER AMOUNTS OF MONEY. 
          MAY I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE. SO THE PUBLIC ART ALLOCATION OF PROP C FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION FUND. 
          I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GETTING THE MONEY FROM. 
          THAT WAS THE $25,000 ORIGINALLY GOING TOWARD THE LGBTQ STUFF. 
          NO. THAT MONEY WE HAD ASKED TO BE DIVERTED TO LILIENTHAL. 
          AND THEN WE DISCOVERED THAT THAT'S NOT JOHN PARSONS ART FUND MONEY. 
          AND IT'S DEDICATED TO TRANSIT PROJECTS. SO. OH,
IT'S DEDICATED. 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT? IT CAME FROM PROPOSITION C TRANSIT FUNDS. 
          IT WAS NEVER PART OF THE JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S NEW. THAT MONEY IS STUCK THERE. 
          THAT'S NEW. YEAH. I SAID THAT LAST. CAN WE YOU. 
          OH, ABSENT. SORRY. SO THAT MONEY IS STUCK IN THAT LOCATION. 
          THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN'T TRY AND GET CREATIVE AND FIND ANOTHER PIECE OF ART WE CAN DO
AT THE TRANSIT CENTER. 
          AND WE ASKED FOR THAT TO BE AGENDIZED. SO WE CAN ASK FOR THAT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER AGENDA
AGAIN, WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS IDEAS FOR THE TRANSIT CENTER. 
          I WAS JUST WONDERING. SO IT CANNOT BE USED FOR LIKE THE STREET ART FOR THE CROSS SECTION? BECAUSE. THAT I'M AFRAID NOT. IT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY TIED TO TRANSIT PROJECTS. 
          IT WAS TRANSPORTATION. PROPOSITION C, TRANSPORTATION FUNDS. 
          THAT WAS GIVEN TOWARDS THE TRANSIT CENTER BUILDING IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          THEY WERE ENCOURAGING THAT TRANSIT CENTERS BE BUILT WITH AN ART COMPONENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT FUNDING CAME FROM. AND I HAD IT CONFIRMED TO ME THAT WE CANNOT
TAKE THAT MONEY AND USE IT ELSEWHERE. 
          AND IT WAS $75,000. $1,000 WAS USED FOR A PROPOSAL THAT WAS FOR A MURAL THAT COULD NOT BE
DONE BECAUSE THE WALLS WON'T SUSTAIN IT. 
          SO THE NET RESULT IS WE HAVE $74,000 STUCK ON A SITE WAITING FOR US TO GET CREATIVE AND DO
SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT. SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE. 
          YEAH, I HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS. SO SHOULD WE FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE ABOUT THIS,
OR SHOULD WE JUST GET IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS IDEAS? I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO PUT TO PUT A SUBCOMMITTEE TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN COME
UP WITH A BETTER ART SOLUTION. 
          OKAY. THAN THE MURALS ON THE WALLS THAT WE INTENDED TO DO THAT TURN OUT TO LEAK WATER. 
          AND SO THAT DOESN'T WORK. AND THE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GATEWAY THERE BECAUSE IT ENDED UP
THEY MOVED THE DESIGN CLOSER TO THE STREET, AND THEREFORE IT HAD TO BE BEHIND THE BUILDING AND OUT OF VIEW. 
          THE COUNCIL DIDN'T LIKE THAT, SO THEY MOVED IT TO A GATEWAY PARKETTE. 
          OKAY. SO CAN WE DO THAT NOW, JACK, TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THAT,
OR SHOULD WE SAVE THAT UNTIL LATER? YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR IDEAS FOR THE TRANSIT
CENTER? 
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I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME IN IT. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT TO. OKAY. CAN THERE BE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF ONE? I CAN JOIN. I DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA. I IMAGINE IT COULD BE ANYTHING. 
          ANYTHING BELOW QUORUM IS MY UNDERSTANDING. ANYTHING BELOW QUORUM. 
          OKAY. SO I IMAGINE IT COULD BE ONE. OKAY. I'LL JOIN YOU. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN ME. I'LL JOIN YOU. OKAY. WE WILL FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TO DISCUSS
TRANSIT CENTER OPTIONS, AND. YOU NEED A MOTION IN A. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT? OKAY. THERE CAN BE THREE. THERE CAN BE. THERE CAN. 
          THERE CAN BE THREE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE? I MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE. FOR? I'LL SECOND. FOR? SPECIFICALLY FOR ONE. YEAH. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO EXPLORE OUR OPTIONS AT THE TRANSIT CENTER? IS IT DEDICATED TO TRANSIT SECTOR OR JUST THE TRANSIT IN GENERAL? SO I'LL VERIFY THAT. I THINK IT'S THE TRANSIT CENTER,
BUT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THE BUSSES THEMSELVES,
I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE WIGGLE ROOM THAN THAT, BUT I WAS TOLD THE TRANSIT CENTER. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE LEAVE IT TO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE OPEN TO
THE IDEA OF THE TRANSIT CENTER. 
          AND OTHER PERMISSIBLE OPTIONS. HOW'S THAT EXACTLY? PERMISSIBLE OPTIONS IS GOOD. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH,
I LIKE IT. BECAUSE WE CAN DECORATE THE BUSSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. 
          OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TO EXPLORE OUR OPTIONS FOR THE TRANSIT
CENTER? AND HOW DID YOU SAY IT? OTHER PERMISSIBLE OPTIONS. 
          OTHER PERMISSIBLE. PERMISSIBLE OPTIONS. YES. I MAKE A MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SO AS FAR AS THE JOHN PARSONS ART FUND GOES, I HAVE UPDATED PROJECT STATUS ON GATEWAY THAT'S NOW MOVED PAST THE FINAL DESIGN
ANALYSIS. 
          AND THAT'S NEXT IS ENGINEERING. AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT IN A WEEK OR SO. 
          THE FULL ENGINEERED DRAWINGS. THEN IT GOES TO ENGINEERING TO VERIFY IT'S GOING TO STAND
UP, IT'S GOING TO MEET STANDARDS, IT'S GOING TO BE SAFE. 
          ONCE THAT IS APPROVED, WE MAKE HIS FIRST PAYMENT AND IT FOR MATERIALS AND IT WILL GO INTO
CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE WILL BE AS I SAID THE LAST MEETING, WE WILL BE EXTENDING THE THE TERMS OF HIS AGREEMENT
TO SEPTEMBER. 
          BECAUSE THERE IS A, THERE HAVE BEEN SLOWDOWNS IN THE MATERIAL ACQUISITION AND AND
FABRICATION. 
          THE WORLD'S A LITTLE SHAKEN UP AT THE MOMENT,
BUT HE IS CONFIDENT HE CAN MAKE THOSE DATES. 
          THANK YOU. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT ONE. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TWISTING ON PROJECTS. 
          ARTESIA. YOU GOT WHAT I GOT. AND THE OTHER THING I SUBMITTED WAS THE WHEN I CAN GET IT
DONE, THE, THE OTHER EVENTS OF INTEREST. ART THINGS THAT ARE OCCURRING. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER EXHIBIT OVER IN MANHATTAN BEACH. 
          THERE WERE SOME OTHER SMALL THINGS GOING ON. AND THE CITY I SHOULD ANNOUNCE IS THE CITY
WILL BE CELEBRATING ITS 134TH BIRTHDAY THIS SATURDAY, THE 25TH. IT'LL BE HAPPENING FROM 11:00 A.M. TO 3:00 P.M. 
          AT HERITAGE COURT, LOCATED AT 320 FLAGLER STREET. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE MORRELL HOUSE AND THE AND THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM ARE LOCATED. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION FROM THE LIBRARY. 
          THEY WILL BE OUT. THEY USUALLY DO SOME KIND OF HISTORICAL TRIVIA THING. 
          OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS COMING OUT TO PARTICIPATE. HISTORICAL SOCIETY WILL BE
PROVIDING BIRTHDAY CAKE. 
          THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE THEIR POPCORN SET UP,
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE PUTTING THEIR NORMAL, THEIR USUAL GINORMOUS FLAG HANGING FROM ONE OF THEIR LADDER TRUCKS THERE AS WELL. 
          THERE WILL BE SOME ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE FOR THE CHILDREN. WE WILL HAVE BALLOON ARTISTS
FACE PAINTING AND A VERY TALL ABRAHAM LINCOLN. 
          HOW OLD IS IT GOING TO BE, DID YOU SAY? I'M SORRY. 
          HOW OLD? HOW OLD? WHAT? IT'S THE BIRTHDAY. HOW MANY YEARS? 134. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THE CITY'S OFFICIAL BIRTH DATE WAS AUGUST 20TH. 
          I'M SORRY. APRIL 29TH, 1892. SO WE ALWAYS DO THIS ON THE SATURDAY JUST PRECEDING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. ARE WE STILL UNDER J.1 CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION LIAISON REPORT? CAN I YEAH, THAT MEETING AND INFORMATION WAS PART OF THAT. 
          YES. OKAY. GREAT. CAN I JUST MAKE A COUPLE THINGS? THANK YOU, BY THE WAY. I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A PROBABLY INFORMAL DISCUSSION WITH YOUR
COUNTERPART AT MANHATTAN BEACH. 
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW DID? MOSTLY WAS GETTING TO KNOW YOU OR HOW THEIR SYSTEM FUNCTIONS. 
          ESPECIALLY THEY HAVE THE ART CENTER THAT WE DO NOT. 
          THAT, THAT IS ALMOST A FULL-TIME JOB ALL BY ITSELF. 
          YEAH. KEEPING THAT OPERATING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PARTS TO IT BETWEEN KILNS AND
CERAMICS CLASSES. 
          AND THERE'S TEACHING GOING ON THAT, YOU KNOW,
WE DON'T HAVE ANY TEACHING PROGRAMS FOR ART AT THIS TIME. 
          SO THESE ARE YOU KNOW, EXCEPT OCCASIONAL ODD RECREATION DEPARTMENT INDEPENDENCE. 
          BUT AS A CITY, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY OPERATING ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO DEVELOP AN ART CENTER, THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR TEACHERS,
ETC. 
          WHICH I UNDERSTAND FROM ERIC OVER THERE. THEY HAVE TROUBLE FINDING ENOUGH,
ENOUGH INSTRUCTORS BECAUSE IT'S APPARENTLY VERY POPULAR PROGRAM. 
          IT IS. AND, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED THE, THE CHANGES TO THE TO THE,
THEIR ART IN A PUBLIC PLACE ORDINANCE AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THAT DOES CHANGE,
CHANGE THE GAME AS TO HOW THEIR MONEY IS ALLOWED TO BE SPENT. 
          THANK YOU. I MEAN, IS THE INITIATOR OF THAT MEETING. 
          I, I THINK THERE ARE AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,
TREMENDOUS SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE NOT ONLY THESE TWO TOWNS, BUT REGIONAL TOWNS. IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO MENTION THAT I ATTENDED THIS THING
CALLED THE SOUTH BAY CITIES COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS GENERAL ASSEMBLY ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO, WHERE OUR MAYOR,
AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, WERE BOTH SPEAKERS. THERE WERE MAYORS FROM OTHER CITIES OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTORS
AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS OUR ALLEN SANFORD OF BEACHLIFE. 
          THE THEME WAS AROUND MOST LIKELY OLYMPICS AND THE,
THE WORLD CUP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THE OVERRIDING THEME WAS OUR LITTLE CITIES. 
          WE NEED TO COOPERATE ON EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO DO THINGS ON OUR OWN. 
          IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER ON ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT,
SPORTS, CULTURE, CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, THEN IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE BASICALLY MAKE SOMETHING REALISTIC AND VISIBLE. 
          AND THIS WAS THE SAME IDEA WAS TOLD BY ALMOST EVERYBODY. 
          SO ANYWAY, ALL I'M SAYING IS I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD START. 
          AND I HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE YOUR DIALOG NOT ONLY WITH ERIC,
BUT ALSO WITH SOME OTHER ONES THAT YOU CAN INITIATE AROUND US. 
          BUT PLEASE TALK TO ELIZABETH BECAUSE SHE WAS THERE. 
          SHE WAS THE SPEAKER. OUR MAYOR WAS THERE. HE TALKED MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS,
BUT HE, HE LISTENED TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE FUTURE OF THIS THING. 
          ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU IS YOU ALSO WENT TO THE THIS GRANT WORKSHOP. 
          HOW DID, HOW DID THAT GO? IT WAS A VERY USEFUL WORKSHOP. 
          NOT FOR WHAT WE DO. MOSTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS FOR PERFORMANCE COMPANIES PEOPLE WHO
ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE ART THEMSELVES. 
          THIS PARTICULAR ROUND DID NOT COVER A LOT OF VENUES EXCEPT IN CASES OF RENT. 
          THEY WERE THERE TO PROVIDE GRANTS FOR RENT FOR FACILITIES AND SO FORTH. 
          SO THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT INITIALLY TIED TO US. 
          BUT THEY OFFER NEW GRANTS EVERY YEAR AND THEY'RE STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY EACH AND EVERY
TIME, SO IT'S WORTH PURSUING. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE CALIFORNIA. 
          THIS IS THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS REMARKABLY EASY AND STREAMLINED. 
          YEAH. THIS IS THE CALIFORNIA ARTS COUNCIL, A STATE AGENCY. 
          MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO LET OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS BE AWARE OF THESE
OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY COULD BE ONE OF OUR GOALS BECAUSE AS JACK SAID,
I MEAN, THERE IS MONEY AND SOME, SOME PEOPLE ARE GRABBING IT. WE ARE AS A MUNICIPALITY,
WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR IT AS WELL, BUT PROBABLY NOT FOR PROFITS HAVE A BETTER CHANCE. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DISSEMINATE INFORMATION ANY WAY WE CAN. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OUR CULTURAL ARTS LIAISON
REPORT? I MAKE A MOTION. I SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM J.2. 
          [01:15:02]
DISCUSS AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THE CITY'S 2026-27 BUDGET. 
          AS JACK HAD MENTIONED, THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAYBE HAVE A BRIEF
DISCUSSION ABOUT TODAY, GET OUR IDEAS IN ORDER, AND THEN WAIT UNTIL OUR MAY MEETING TO ACTUALLY PUT FORTH OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BUDGET. 
          YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND SPECIFIC DOLLAR EXPENDITURES FROM THE JOHN PARSONS ART FUNDS. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT, AND IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR MORE
ACCURATE DOLLAR FIGURES OR SHOOT LOW AND FIGURE YOU'VE GOT IT COVERED. 
          OKAY. AND ALSO ANYTHING THAT'S NOT COMING FROM THE JOHN PARSONS ART FUND,
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EXPENDITURES, WHETHER IT BE AN ART CENTER OR A HUB OR ANYTHING ELSE,
MANY OF THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU PROPOSED AT YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          YOU CAN MAKE MORE SPECIFIC ONES IF YOU WISH TO. 
          DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THIS? COMMISSIONER TANER,
YOU HAD WORKED ON SENDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO COUNCIL. 
          WAS THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY. WHAT PLAN? THE STRATEGIC PLAN? YES. DO WE HAVE A COPY OF WHAT WAS SENT? YES. 
          NOT. HOLD ON. I MAY EVEN HAVE IT HERE WITH ME. 
          THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE NOT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. WHEN WE PREPARE THE
STRATEGIC PLAN, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO JUST GO THROUGH THOSE QUICK BULLET POINTS. 
          NOT TO DISCUSS, BUT JUST TO TELL, TO REMIND WHAT THOSE BULLET POINTS WERE. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT IDEAS WE'VE SENT TO THEM THAT OUR MONEY MIGHT BE TIED TO. 
          NO, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. I MAY HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY,
BUT THAT WILL TAKE A SECOND FOR ME. 
          THAT'S OKAY. I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED A NEED FOR A CULTURAL ARTS CENTER. 
          PUBLIC ART. WAS THERE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICE STATION? YES. OH. TAKING OVER. PERHAPS TURNING OR TURNING THE,
THE DETECTIVE BUREAU INTO ART CENTER. 
          I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT. YEAH. OF COURSE. 
          I'M JUST ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. HOLD ON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT,
YOU KNOW, I'M PRESENT. I THINK THERE WAS ALSO A SUGGESTION ABOUT AN INVENTORY OF AVAILABLE
BUILDINGS. 
          DID THAT MAKE IT IN THERE? I DID READ THIS. I FOUND THAT I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK
SUMMARY. 
          THANK YOU. WELL, WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
MAKING THE RANKING REDONDO BEACH REPUTATION AS A PREMIER ARTS AND CULTURAL DESTINATION FOR YOU KNOW, SOUTH BAY WITH THE OLYMPICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT COMING UP. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NECESSITY FOR A DEDICATED ARTS CENTER,
IDEALLY IN A CITY OWNED PROPERTY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT EITHER THE THE DETECTIVES' ANNEX ON
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY OR THE HISTORIC LIBRARY. THIRD, WE RECOMMENDED THERE WOULD BE A MOBILE APPLICATION. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON. 
          I'M SORRY. AN APP, A MOBILE APP, A PHONE APP WHICH INCLUDES THE ART MAP. 
          OKAY. AND HIGHLIGHTING PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS,
CULTURAL EVENTS, FACILITIES, ORGANIZATIONS AND ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY ACCESSIBLE TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. THE APPLICATION WOULD ENHANCE ENGAGEMENT AND PROMOTE
CULTURAL DISCOVERY. 
          AND FINALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GRANDIOSE PLAN OF TURNING THE AES POWER PLANT
OR THE SOUTH PARTS OF SOUTH BAY GALLERIA INTO A WORLD RENOWNED ART MUSEUM. AND WE CONCLUDED BY SAYING THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE INITIATIVES REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING, BLAH, BLAH. BUT REDONDO BEACH ALREADY BENEFITS FROM A STRONG CULTURAL
FOUNDATION, INCLUDING THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, LOCAL CLASSES,
GALLERIES, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          AND FINALLY THAT'S IT. I MEAN, OUT OF THE FOUR POINTS THAT WE MADE,
I THINK WHICH IS MOST RELEVANT TO THE BUDGET ITSELF IS PROBABLY THE APP. OKAY. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. YEAH, I AGREE. 
          WHAT WAS. I'M SORRY I MISSED WHAT WAS THE FIRST POINT? THE FIRST POINT WAS. 
          HOLD ON. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. 
          TOGETHER WITH THE FIFA WORLD CUP AND THE SUPER BOWL,
WHICH SHOULD SHOWCASE THE CITY'S CULTURAL IDENTITY ON A GLOBAL STAGE. 
          WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT ARTS AND CULTURE BE PRIORITIZED AS A FOREFRONT IN RELATED
PLANNING, EVENTS AND PROMOTIONS. AGAIN, THAT ACTUALLY GOES DIRECTLY TO THE HEART OF WHAT I JUST
MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT THIS SOUTH BAY CITIES COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. 
          AND EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT. THEY SAID,
YOU KNOW, LET'S SHOWCASE OUR CITIES. 
          [01:20:03]
YOU KNOW, SOME CITIES, FOR EXAMPLE. CARSON, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT TOO LONG,
BUT THIS IS INTERESTING. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE GREAT SPORTS FACILITIES THE WHATEVER IT'S CALLED,
THE STADIUM AND OTHER THINGS. 
          SO THEY WERE PUSHING FOR THAT, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS,
YOU KNOW, ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, CULTURE, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. OKAY. 
          SO BUDGET WISE, I THINK MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO PUSH FOR THE,
THE ART MAP AND THE ART APP. 
          SECONDLY EVERYTHING ELSE IS A MORE STRATEGIC SUGGESTIONS RATHER THAN A BUDGET ITEMS. YEAH, THERE'S CERTAINLY GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION,
HOW MUCH WOULD AN ART APP MAP COST? THAT NEEDS IT NEEDS AT LEAST A BALLPARK FIGURE ATTACHED TO IT. 
          YES. MY HUSBAND'S COMPANY DOES MAPPING AND IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF FOR $20 GRAND. 
          I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT. YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE WE'RE
DESCRIBING COULD BE PUT TOGETHER FOR THAT? I THINK IT'S. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE THE COMPANY TO DO IT. NO. BUT I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE FIGURE FOR SUCH A
PRODUCT? THAT'S REASONABLE. OKAY. THEY SELL THEM. IF WE NEED A NUMBER IT COULD BE ANYTHING. 
          BUT. YEAH. WELL IT'S FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. 
          YEAH. INITIAL ESTIMATE IS. AND THEN FIGURE IF IT CHANGES THEN. 
          YEAH. YEAH, WE PUT A NUMBER DOWN AT LEAST. I'LL GO WITH A HIGHER FIGURE. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, $50,000. 
          YEAH, I WOULD DO THAT, TOO. THAT SOUNDS HIGH. 
          NO, IT'S NOT A MAP. IT'S AN APP. I SAID APP. IT'S AN APP WHICH WILL ANNOUNCE ALL THE
ARTISTIC ACTIVITIES. 
          IT WILL SHOW IT ON THE MAP. IT WILL. IS IT REALLY GOING TO COST THAT MUCH? IN MY, IN MY. WELL, IT WOULD WOULDN'T TELL A MAP THOUGH ALSO WOULDN'T IT? WOULD LIKE SHOW WHERE ALL THE ART IS IN THE AREA. 
          SO THERE WOULD. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID SAY ABOUT THAT. 
          ALSO WITHIN THAT APP IS IT'S JUST A NUMBER. IT'S JUST AN IDEA FOR A NUMBER. 
          IF WE GO HIGH. MAYBE WE COULD SPLIT IT AT 35 OR WE COULD ALSO,
THE NICE THING ABOUT TODAY IS WE CAN SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PUT IN THE BUDGET. AND THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT ONE OF US COULD GO AND RESEARCH AND MAYBE A
BALLPARK IDEA OF TO SEE IF WE'RE EVEN CLOSE. 
          THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A WEBSITE THEY SPECIFICALLY DID FOR THE OLYMPICS. 
          IT'S AS YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY WOULD ALSO ADMIT IT'S,
IT'S NOT THAT GOOD. 
          IT HAS BEEN PAID BY MR. SANFORD AS A GESTURE TO THE CITY. 
          SO INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING HALF RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING HERE SHOULD
REALLY SHINE. 
          SO THAT'S WE NEED TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, A VERY GOOD WEB DEVELOPER OR COMPANY OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT. 
          AND THE MAP. YEAH, THE MAP SHOULD LOOK LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A MOVIE. 
          RIGHT. IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING COOL. RIGHT. LIKE WE'RE NOT. 
          YEAH. WE'RE NOT BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO GET ON THAT MAP. 
          WE WANT THOSE GUYS TO GET ON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          NOT ARGUING. THOSE GUYS JUST DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR VALUE. 
          SO SPEND MONEY 50 THOU. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ OR COMMISSIONER TANER. 
          WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE TO JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH TO LET US KNOW? YEAH, LOOK IT UP. A BALLPARK IDEA? YEAH, SURE. 
          OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN PUT THAT. WOULD YOU AGREE TO THAT? THERE MIGHT BE EXISTING STUFF OUT THERE TOO,
THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST BUY A PROGRAM AND THEN JUST HAVE IT YOU KNOW, MASSAGED INTO SOMETHING. YEAH. FOR, FOR YOUR DATA. 
          YEAH, SOMETHING GET IT CUSTOMIZED FOR THE CITY OR SOMETHING. IT'S EASIER. MAYBE SOMETHING
YOU CAN PURCHASE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ELSE WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE? AND YOU CAN WRITE CONTENT. OR FIND SOMEBODY ELSE'S COOLNESS AND FIND OUT WHO DID IT. 
          WE JUST DID. YOU JUST DID IT WITH THE BOLLARDS. 
          THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF LIKE YOU JUST PUT IT IN THERE,
PUT A LITTLE PIZZAZZ ON IT. 
          SO THESE GUYS WILL PICK IT UP. THEY'LL HAVE THE APP AND THEY'LL BE LIKE,
HEY, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT FREE HOT DOGS DOWN AT. 
          LET'S GO CHECK OUT SOME. NO DOUBT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO STAND OUT IN PEOPLE'S MEMORY. 
          I KEEP ASKING THIS EVERY TIME, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS,
JACK, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF? DO YOU THINK I WHAT? DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? YES, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT CUTS, NOT ADDING. 
          THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF THE CITY IS NOT GREAT. 
          OKAY, SO WE SHOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING INTO THE BUDGET WITH REGARDS TO. 
          FOR PEOPLE? YES. I THINK IT WILL GET TURNED DOWN. 
          HOW ABOUT YOU INTERN? YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO RECOMMEND ANYTHING YOU THINK IS
DESIRABLE. 
          INTERNS? PART TIME? BUT IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? HIGHLY UNLIKELY. INTERNS? I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD USE INTERNS IN THIS SITUATION. 
          SOMEBODY HAS TO MANAGE THEM. SURE. AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO INTERNS,
YOU ALSO NEED AN INTERN PERSON. 
          A HERDER, AN INTERN HERDER. YEAH. YEAH. WHAT ELSE? WOULD WE LIKE TO GO DOWN? THE ANSWER IS, OF COURSE WE WOULD LIKE MORE PEOPLE. 
          [01:25:02]
YEAH. WE'RE NOT PSYCHOTIC. OF COURSE WE WOULD LIKE MORE PEOPLE. 
          ARE THERE IDEAS FOR BUDGET? GETTING AT A HISTORICAL BUILDING WAS ON THERE TOO,
RIGHT? SO WE'D LIKE TO ADD THE REDONDO BEACH ART CENTER. 
          WHETHER THAT. YEAH. WHATEVER BUILDING. IS THERE A BUDGET ITEM? I HAVE. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HOW WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK. 
          ALL THE COST. STRATEGICALLY IT NEEDS TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE COUNCIL FIRST THAT THE CITY
NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S AN INVESTMENT. 
          THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. YEAH. THEY'VE GOT TO BITE FOR THAT FIRST. 
          RIGHT. EXACTLY. OKAY. BUT THE APP WE CAN ASK FOR. 
          YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC ITEM. YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. 
          HOW ABOUT WE TALKED ABOUT ART IN OPEN SPACES,
INTERACTIVE ART APPROACHABLE ART, THINGS THAT WE COULD STRATEGICALLY PLACE THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO MAKE OUR OPEN SPACES MORE INVITING FOR WHEN WE HAVE VISITORS,
PARTICULARLY THE OLYMPICS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT INTO A BUDGET? WOULD THAT WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE WE THINKING? LIKE PLATFORMS? LIKE, DO WE NEED MORE CONCRETE SLABS TO PUT BANDS AND THINGS ON? I'M LIKE. NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I WAS THINKING EVEN THINGS LIKE OUTDOOR ART THAT'S
INTERACTIVE. 
          SO MAYBE REALLY NEAT, LIKE CHESSBOARD KIND OF TABLES OR PEOPLE WILL COME AND HANG OUT AND
PLAY. 
          YES. MAYBE SOME PERMANENT INSTALLATIONS THAT ARE INSTAGRAM WORTHY THAT PEOPLE WOULD FLOCK
TO THE PIER TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH. 
          DO WE HAVE CHESS PLACES? WE DON'T HAVE THAT. I THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT
VETERANS PARK WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD GUESS THAT IT WOULD BE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. CHESS THOSE ARE EASY. 
          WE CAN MAKE SOME CHESS TABLES. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE MOSAICS DONE,
YOU KNOW? I WOULD PLAY CHESS OUT IN PUBLIC. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN,
WHEN WE WERE LISTENING TO THE TEENAGERS THAT CAME TO OUR LAST MEETING, IT WAS JUST WE TALKED ABOUT HOW NICE IT WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT THIRD SPACE,
WHICH IS THAT SPACE THAT'S NOT HOME, THAT'S NOT WORK OR SCHOOL, THAT PLACE THAT YOU GO OUTSIDE WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU
CAN HANG OUT, THAT'S INVITING TO BE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. SO I WAS THINKING,
IF WE COULD USE OUR ART IN OUR CITY AS A WAY TO INVITE THAT PUBLIC ART. 
          YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. I MEAN, I LOVE SCULPTURES. 
          BUT I MEAN, IF YOU DO IT, IT COULD IT BE A SCULPTURE? NO, IT'S YEAH, YOU COULD MAKE IT FANCY SOMEHOW. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE WHERE LIKE,
SOMEBODY CAN JUST PLAY GUITAR IN AN AMPHITHEATER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE WHERE YOU CAN JUST SIT AND HEAR IT. 
          YOU KNOW? MAY I ALSO SUGGEST THAT YOU'RE MOSTLY OTHER THAN WHAT YOU JUST SAID,
MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS TIED STILL TO PUBLIC ART AND YOU'RE MISSING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES PERHAPS THAT ARE UNDER YOUR PURVIEW. 
          MAYBE YOU WANT TO ASK THEM TO FUND A BATTLE OF THE BANDS AT THE THEATER,
OR MAYBE YOU WANT TO ASK THEM TO DO. 
          YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE. A POETRY SLAM IN THE PARK. 
          THINGS THAT YOU CAN PUT A DOLLAR FIGURE ON OF A REASONABLE AMOUNT AND SEE IF MAYBE THEY
WILL DO MAYBE REACTIVATE MOVIES IN THE PARK THAT WE USED TO DO. 
          OH, THAT'S GREAT TOO. YEAH. OKAY, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF CULTURAL ARTS THINGS THAT YOU
COULD ASK FOR AT LEAST, AND AT LEAST GETS THEM THINKING IF THEY CAN'T FUND IT THIS YEAR,
BUT AT LEAST THEY'VE HEARD THIS NOW IT'S IN THEIR HEAD. 
          RIGHT. OUR OWN LITTLE REDONDO LOCAL BEACH LIFE. 
          YEAH. I LIKE THAT BATTLE OF THE BANDS. YEAH,
AND I LIKE MOVIES. 
          POLICE SPONSORED ONE IN THE THEATER THREE YEARS AGO. 
          IT WAS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. IT WAS ALL YOUTH, THOUGH. 
          IT WAS. IT WAS ALL TEENS, AND A COUPLE OF THEM WERE AMAZING. 
          THAT'S GREAT. THE HIGH SCHOOL PUTS MOVIES ON AND IT'S LIKE. SO WE GOTTA PUT WE GOTTA PUT
PRICES ON THIS AND IDEAS TO THE IDEAS. 
          I CAN FIGURE OUT THE COST OF THE USE OF THE THEATER. 
          THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. YEAH. IT'S AS FAR AS OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO PRIZE MONEY,
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN IT'S JUST LIKE A POETRY SLAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT THAT CAN BE DONE. THREE QUARTERS VOLUNTEER AND MAYBE SOME PEOPLE TO OVERSEE IT. 
          THESE THINGS DON'T HAVE TO COST A TON OF MONEY. 
          OKAY. YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOME, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF PERFORMABLE
SPACES. 
          YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT ONCE BEFORE. WE HAVE THE LITTLE AMPHITHEATER DOWN IN WILDERNESS
PARK. 
          THERE'S OTHER PLACES PERHAPS THAT MIGHT WORK AS WELL. 
          IF WE ONLY HAD AN APP THAT WAS A MAP. IF ONLY WE HAD AN APP. 
          IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT. BUT WE COULD LOOK. WE KNOW. WE KNOW WHAT THE MOVIES IN THE
PARK USED TO COST. 
          WE CAN PROBABLY FIND OUT WHAT THEY STILL COST. 
          YEAH, WE'LL PUT IT. SO DO WE WANT TO HAVE ON HERE THE OPTION OF POETRY,
MUSIC AND MOVIES IN THE PARK OR OTHER PUBLIC AREAS, AND WE CAN FIND OUT A COST TO HAVE A SERIES OF THOSE WITHIN THE CITY. 
          [01:30:05]
YES. YEAH. OKAY. THE MOVIE IN THE PARK PROGRAM USED TO RUN OUT OF OUR OFFICE,
SO I WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP TO AT THIS POINT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT
THING. YEAH. 
          MAYBE YOU WANT TO SPECIFY WHAT KIND OF MOVIES THOSE WERE FAMILY MOVIES. 
          THERE COULD BE CLASSICS OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING MORE MODERN. 
          OR MAYBE YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOREIGN FILMS. NOBODY'S EVER TRIED THAT. 
          ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE. I THINK A MIX OF ALL OF THAT WOULD BE REALLY FUN. 
          YEAH, THEY DID THEM IN THE SUMMERTIME. THEY WOULD GENERALLY DO 6:00 TO 8:00,
YOU KNOW, JUST WEEKLY. AND THESE WOULD BE FREE EVENTS. 
          THEY WERE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. KIND OF LIKE THE CONCERT ON THE PIER. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. 
          USUALLY WITH FREE POPCORN, THEY WERE VERY POPULAR. 
          THEY, THEY BROUGHT THE FAMILIES OUT. WELL, WHO PAID FOR THE POPCORN? THE POLICE. THE POLICE, I BELIEVE. THE POLICE DID OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOING TO SAY. THAT IT WAS FUNDED IN THE. 
          I HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FUNDED INTO THE PROGRAM. NORTHROP GRUMMAN. 
          YEAH. THE MOST EXPENSIVE COST OF IT WAS GETTING SOMEBODY WITH A PROJECTOR AND THE SCREEN
BECAUSE THE CITY DIDN'T OWN THOSE FOR OUTDOOR USE. 
          WE PROVIDED THE GENERATOR AND THE POWER. WE HAVE THAT STILL. 
          THESE THINGS CAN BE REPLICATED. YEAH. I KNOW THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY DID ALL OF THE MOVIES IN
THE PARK LAST TIME. 
          HE'S STILL AROUND AND HE'S STILL WILLING TO DO IT,
SO. 
          OH THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. GOES BY THE NAME OF SKEETER. 
          SKEETER. OF COURSE. OKAY, TOM, WE SHOULD KNOW. 
          YEAH. WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD ALL KNOW SKEETER. ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT AND RESEARCH AND TO PUT IT INTO OUR
BUDGET FOR OUR NEXT MEETING? SO FAR, WE HAVE A MOBILE APP AND FINDING OUT THE ESTIMATED COST OF THAT. 
          THE IDEA OF POETRY, MUSIC, MOVIES, ETC. IN THE PARK. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? MUSIC ON THE PIER. WE HAVE THAT,
THOUGH. 
          THEY DO CONCERTS ON THE PIER IN THE SUMMER. YEAH,
WE COULDN'T WE GET IN ON THAT SOMEHOW WITH. 
          WITH OUR BATTLE OF THE BANDS. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE,
LIKE IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, THIS IS LIKE A WISH LIST OUTSIDE OF US SPENDING PARSONS' MONEY. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S THE IDEA. YEAH. WE NEED MORE MUSIC STUFF. 
          MORE MUSIC. WE NEED MONEY FOR FOOD AND. YEAH. 
          WHAT A DANCE OFF? YEAH, YEAH. LIKE, I MEAN, IF WE'RE IF WE CAN GET TO ASK WHATEVER WE
WANT. 
          DANCING. SO FROM MY END, YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR COSTS ON MOVIES. 
          AND YOU WANT A COST ON USE OF THE THEATER FOR A DAY? FOR. THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU JACK. AND I THINK YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE REALIZING THAT. 
          WELL, EVEN IF WE DID BATTLE OF THE BANDS, WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE HAVE LOCAL
REDONDO BEACH ACTS, JUST THE WHOLE CONCERT, JUST WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BATTLE LIKE WE JUST DO. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE CONCERT LIKE BEACH. 
          BEACH LIFE HAS A WHOLE THING. LIKE IT WOULD JUST BE REDONDO BEACH LOCAL MUSIC. 
          THERE'S SO MANY LOCAL ART LIKE MUSICIANS THAT WOULD LOVE. 
          WE COULD PICK A THEME TOO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT. LIKE IT COULD BE WHATEVER. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. HOW ABOUT INLAND FEST INSTEAD OF BEACHLIFE? YEAH. NORTH REDONDO. THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN. SO A COUPLE MONEY FOR A COUPLE CAUSES. 
          WE HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS, I THINK, TO GET US STARTED. 
          AND THEN IF WE COULD ALL JUST MAYBE THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE FURTHER. IF YOU HAVE A GREAT
IDEA THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TRY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, MAYBE JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON ESTIMATED COSTS. 
          THAT WAY WHEN WE SOLIDIFY OUR PLANS FOR OUR BUDGET NEXT MEETING. 
          WE WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO DECLARE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO WRITE THIS UP AND GET IT WITHIN
A DAY. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE. IT'S THE 27TH OF MAY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE TWO DAYS AT THE MOST
TO TRANSMIT THE INFORMATION. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GO QUICKLY. I WON'T BE HERE. 
          YOU WON'T BE HERE? I WON'T BE THERE. I'M 100% POSITIVE THAT I'M NOT. 
          I'M GOING TO MISS THE MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. 
          CAN WE DO A QUICK. JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE HERE AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          THAT WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM FOR THIS. IS THAT OKAY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW? WHAT IS IT YOU'D LIKE TO DO? TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER TANER SAID HE WILL NOT BE HERE
AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE ONE OTHER COMMISSIONER THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND. I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM TO GO THROUGH WITH OUR BUDGET FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. CAN WE JUST ASK CAN I JUST ASK THAT RIGHT NOW? WELL, YOU CAN ASK THIS GROUP. OKAY. YEAH. WELL,
WILL EVERYONE BE HERE NEXT MEETING? OR IS THERE A CONFLICT THAT WE SHOULD RESCHEDULE? I'LL BE HERE. I'LL BE HERE. ONE, TWO. I'LL BE HERE. 
          YEAH. SO WE HAVE FOUR. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. 
          [01:35:02]
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO OF THE FOUR OF US THAT WE KNOW WILL DEFINITELY BE
HERE. 
          IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP TO WRITE OUR BUDGET FOR US. 
          YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. WELL, I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO HELP OUT WITH LOOKING UP THE
APP. 
          THE I'LL COME UP WITH SOME STUFF FOR THAT. DO YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT? SOMETIMES THAT'S LIKE, WELL, SINCE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE BULK OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT, WOULD YOU MIND JUST EXPANDING IT TO THE WHOLE THING? OKAY, YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. AND THEN WITH WHAT? MAYBE YOU JUST RECENTLY SENT ME. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. 
          SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING? YES, PLEASE. SO CAN WE. WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO VOTE. 
          MOTION TO. IS THERE A MOTION TO DISCUSS OUR 26-27 BUDGET AND HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AT OUR
NEXT MEETING. 
          MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS FIRST? PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SORRY. THANK YOU YES. THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON AN APP FOR AROUND
ARTESIA. 
          HIS NAME IS RICK MCQUILLAN. YEAH, HE'S BEEN HERE. 
          RICK I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING. YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING THIS. AND HE'S IN MANHATTAN BEACH.
HE'S BEEN TRYING TO SELL HIS APP. HE'S GOT THIS INCREDIBLE DESIGN TO JUST SO PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE ON ARTESIA, THEY CAN GO, OH, LET'S SEE WHAT'S HERE. 
          WHAT ARE THESE SHOPS? WHAT'S THAT? I KNOW THAT HE WOULD BE INTERESTED. AND WE TALKED ABOUT
ART TOO. I THINK HE EVEN DID AN EXPANSION ON THE APP, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ART IN REDONDO, PUBLIC ART,
WHATEVER PERFORMANCES, WHATEVER. 
          HE COULD DO IT. THIS IS WHAT THE GUY DOES FOR A LIVING. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO ASK HIM TO COME TO THE NEXT MEETING? OR IS THAT INAPPROPRIATE? BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I WANT TO PUT HIS NAME OUT THERE
BECAUSE RICK HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS THING, AND IT'S EVERY TIME YOU GO, OH, LOOK WHAT I DID. 
          NOW LOOK WHAT I DID NOW. AND HE COMES TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND NOW HE'S KIND OF DISCOURAGED
BECAUSE HE GOES, NO ONE'S GOING TO BUY IT. I SAID, KEEP, YOU GOT TO KEEP GOING. YOU CAN'T BE DISCOURAGED. YOU HAVE TO KEEP COMING UP HERE. THAT'S WHY I'M BUGGING YOU ALL THE TIME.
MY SUGGESTION, BASED ON THE TIME, IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU MEET WITH THEM WITH YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE IN ADVANCE. WELL THAT'S RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. WHATEVER. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT AT THAT DATE. 
          NO. NO. NO WHAT? NO? YOU DON'T WANT TO MEET HIM? NO TIMELINE. WE'RE DOING A TIME. THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET FOR. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND TOUCHING BASE. HE'S BEEN HERE A COUPLE TIMES. 
          YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH US. 
          THAT GOES THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. NO OF COURSE. 
          BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IT DOES IT DOESN'T HURT US FOR ME TO GO MEET WITH THIS GUY. 
          IT'S KIND OF. FIGURE IT OUT. LOOK WHAT HE'S GOT. AND THEN I COME BACK AND I TALK TO YOU
GUYS. THAT'S IT. OKAY. 
          AS AN EXAMPLE, MAYBE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO, IN A SENSE,
WARN YOU THAT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS WORKING ABOUT IS A BUSINESS APPLICATION GEARED TOWARD BUSINESSES, AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY BE ARTS AND CULTURE FOCUSED. 
          I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. BUT TO GET A BASIS OF LIKE THE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY'S
WORKING ON. 
          MAYBE IF HE HAS THE SKILL TO TAKE A COMMISSION TO WRITE AN APP SPECIFICALLY FOR US,
IF HE'S IF HE'S GOOD ENOUGH. 
          IT'S NOT THAT NOT THAT HIS APP IS THE ONE WE WANT. 
          CORRECT. I DON'T THINK IT IS. OKAY SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS IF YOU WANT TO. 
          I'M GOING TO COME. I'M GOING TO TALK TO HIM. I'M GOING TO GO LOOK AT A WHOLE BUNCH OF
STUFF TO SEE HOW MUCH AN APP COSTS. 
          I'M NOT IT'S NOT JUST I'M JUST PURELY FOR PRICING. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. MIGHT AS WELL TALK TO HIM. 
          THANK YOU. AND HE DID INCORPORATE ART ALSO DANCE MARATHON. 
          REMEMBER THEY USED TO DO THAT IN THE YOU KNOW THEY SHOOT HORSES DON'T THEY. 
          DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THAT MOVIE? WHERE PEOPLE JUST DANCE THEIR REAR ENDS OFF AND
WHOEVER'S LEFT STANDING, YOU WIN. THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. PEOPLE STILL DO. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. PIE EATING CONTESTS. I THINK MICHELLE SAID DANCING,
TOO. 
          YEAH. SO YOU CAN PUT DANCING WITH. SO OUR FIRST MOVIE WILL BE THEY SHOOT HORSES,
DON'T THEY? THAT WAS A MOVIE ABOUT THAT. WHICH ONE? IT'S CALLED THEY SHOOT HORSES,
DON'T THEY? OH. OH. GREAT MOVIE. THAT WAS A GOOD MOVIE. YEAH. 
          DAVID CARRADINE, IS THERE ANY ONLINE COMMENT? OKAY. WHO WAS THE LADY? JANE FONDA? THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. WHERE ARE WE? WE ARE. OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO. 
          EVERYBODY DO SOME RESEARCH. SO WE HAD A MOTION. 
          THERE WAS A MOTION TO FORWARD OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION TO OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          WHO HAD MOTION FOR THIS? CAN YOU THIS ITEM. SO IT'LL BE ON THE CONTINUED ITEMS. SO WE'LL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY. 
          AND THE SECOND IS BY. AND WAS THERE A SECOND? IT WAS VICTORIO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER PITZELE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. NEXT WE ARE ON TO 
          [01:40:07]
K. THIS IS WHERE ANY TOPICS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE PUT ON FUTURE AGENDA IS BROUGHT UP NOW. 
          [K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]
ARE THERE ANY TOPICS THAT ANY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSED? I GOT ONE TOO. YEAH. OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE TO K. 
          MAY I JUST ASK ABOUT I THOUGHT WE AGENDIZED OUR MISSION VISION STATEMENT. THE OTHER HOUSEKEEPING THINGS FOR THIS MEETING,
WHICH I DON'T SEE IN THE AGENDA. 
          BUT I'M WILLING TO PASS THAT ON TO THE NEXT MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING BECAUSE I
THINK IT WILL GO IN CONNECTION TO WHICH ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT I WILL PROPOSE RIGHT NOW. FOR JUNE. JUNE,
MAYBE? ARE YOU THINKING? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. AND NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          PLUS I'M EXTREMELY COLD AND FREEZING WHERE I'M STANDING. 
          IT IS FREEZING. IT IS FREEZING, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. 
          SO ON THAT GOING OVER TO SO THE IDEA WAS, AND I READ IT FROM LAST,
LAST MINUTE, LAST MEETING'S MINUTES, THAT MOTION BY CHAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ AND APPROVED BY VOICE VOTE TO ADD
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION'S MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT AND BYLAWS, AS WELL AS A BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE USE OF FUNDS FOR ART
CENTERS. 
          SO THAT WAS AN AGENDA THAT'S HERE. WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM THEN,
WHICH COMBINING ALL OF THINGS, WHICH IN GENERAL, I CAN PROBABLY CALL HOUSEKEEPING. 
          OKAY? SO WE NEED TO REVISIT OUR BYLAWS. WE NEED TO,
THERE IS A EVEN IF YOU GO FURTHER, THERE IS A CITY OF REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN DATING
FROM THE, I BELIEVE, 2010S, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 2014 I THINK IS WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED. 
          2014. BUT OUR BY BYLAWS DEFINITELY NEED A REWRITE. 
          AND IN THE BYLAWS, WE CAN INCLUDE OUR VISION AND MISSION STATEMENT. 
          THERE WAS A. WE ALREADY DID A VOTE TO AGENDIZE THOSE,
DID WE NOT? YES, BUT. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF TRIAGE WHEN THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE OVERLOADED. 
          BUT WE YOU DON'T NEED TO DO IT AGAIN. IT'LL GET ON THE FIRST AVAILABLE SPACE. 
          OKAY. BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT,
LET ME ADD TO THAT SAME DISCUSSION, THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF OUR JOHN PARSONS ART FUND. 
          OH, YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT PART OF IT? OKAY. RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK EVEN JUST LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY REGARDING THE DANCE COMPANY,
YOU KNOW, THE CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT MAKES TREMENDOUS SENSE,
IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, PUBLIC ART, LIKE EVEN THE BATTLE OF THE BANDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING IT OBVIOUSLY. 
          LIKE MANHATTAN BEACH JUST DID IT LAST WEEK AFTER SOME 20 YEARS. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN OUR UPCOMING MEETING OR MAYBE IN
THE JUNE AGENDA, IF YOU PREFER. AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. 
          SO THE ORDINANCE UPDATED, UPDATED NOW ALLOWS TO,
WE CAN RECOMMEND MUSIC AND CULTURAL PROGRAMING. 
          YES. BUT THAT'S SEPARATE FROM HOW THE FUND ITSELF CAN BE LEGALLY SPENT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE? YES, YES, I THINK THERE IS AN ORDINANCE. 
          A SEPARATE ORDINANCE WHICH DEFINES THE JOHN PARSONS FUND WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT BEEN
CHANGED. 
          I CAN EVEN FIND THAT FOR YOU. PUBLIC ART FORM. 
          I THINK IT'S UNDER ARTICLE 10, BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. ANYWAY. 
          YEAH, YEAH. YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO. 
          SO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION IS CREATED. THAT'S PERFECT. 
          IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. I THINK 3278-24 IS OUR NEW ORDINANCE. 
          IT GIVES US ALL THE POWER OF THE THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO NUMBER ONE WE NEED TO CHANGE ADJUST OUR BYLAWS ACCORDING TO THIS NEW ORDINANCE. 
          ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, LOGISTICAL ISSUES SUCH AS LIKE OUR MONTHLY
MEETINGS. 
          AND THEN INCLUDE IN THAT A VERY NICELY WRITTEN MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT,
AND THEN EVENTUALLY ALSO COME UP WITH A NEW SCOPE FOR THE PUBLIC. JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          AND I THINK THEN WE ARE SET TO GO. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A MEETING ALL BY ITSELF. 
          [01:45:05]
I KNOW. IT PROBABLY IS, BUT. THAT'S NO REASON WHY NOT. 
          BUT THE THING ABOUT IF WE DO PUT IT OUT INTO JUNE,
THERE'S A LOT OF LEGWORK THAT COULD BE DONE OFF, OFF, OFF MEETING TIME BETWEEN WHOEVER WE GOT TO DO SOME BACKGROUND OR WE GOT TO DO SOME
HOMEWORK BEFORE WE COME IN HERE. 
          OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I HAD SHARED WITH YOU IN OUR LAST MEETING AS A BLUE FOLDER
ITEM, SOME OF THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGES FOR THE MISSION AND VISION. 
          PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. IT CAN BE EXPANDED. 
          I MEAN AND THE TECHNICAL ISSUES, JACK, YOU AND I,
WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE BYLAWS THAT THAT'S MECHANICAL THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER. AND THEN I THINK IF EVERYBODY AGREES,
LET'S JUST HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION IN THE IN THE JUNE MEETING. 
          MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. YEAH. SOUNDS GREAT. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON THAT. BUT YOU ALSO HAD OKAY. 
          THAT WAS FROM THE EARLIER ISSUE YOU WERE INCLUDING THE. 
          YES, WE ARE COMBINING THE PUBLIC ART FUND DISCUSSION TOGETHER WITH THE MISSION VISION
BYLAWS DISCUSSION. 
          YEP. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO VOTE TO ADD THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RELATED. 
          WITH YOUR. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MISSION, THE SCOPE PREVIOUSLY AS WELL. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE'D LIKE TO ADD IT? YES THANK YOU TO CHECK ON THE. 
          WE GOT TO GET BACK ON SOME OF THESE BOXES. THAT SHOULD BE LIKE AN ONGOING. 
          YEAH THE UTILITY BOXES. YEAH, I WENT BY ONE OF MINE. 
          THE ONE I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE DOWN BY THE STANDARD HOTEL THERE,
AND I THINK MINE'S A LITTLE BEAT UP, SO. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITY BOXES? YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE? YES. YEAH,
JUST STUFF THAT CAME IN. 
          ONLY TWO ARE CAPABLE OF BEING REPRODUCED. WHAT WE HAVE OF THE FIVE ONE IS DISAPPEARED. 
          JUST NOT COMMUNICATING WITH US HASN'T FOR MONTHS. 
          SO SHE'S OUT. OKAY. THE ANOTHER ONE HAS BACKED OUT. 
          SHE FINDS IT TOO COMPLICATED TO CONVERT HER WORK TO A FORMAT THAT CAN BE REPRODUCED. 
          WOW. ONE IS JUST APPARENTLY TECHNICALLY INCAPABLE OF IT. 
          THEY'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE WORKING WITH THE FABRICATORS BEEN TRYING,
BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING HE CAN'T DO FROM HOME. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S AN 11 BY 14 PICTURE OF A, OF A PIECE OF ART. 
          AND YOU CAN'T BLOW THAT UP TO BOX SIZE WITHOUT IT LOOKING HORRIBLY DISTORTED. 
          AGAIN, AND GET A WHOLE CROP OF NEW. SO WE'RE DOWN TO TWO THAT ARE QUALIFIED. 
          TALKING TO THE FABRICATOR, IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO THEM FINANCIALLY FOR LESS THAN FIVE. 
          OKAY. SO THEY WON'T ACTUALLY TAKE THE JOB ON. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE TWO WAYS WE CAN GO. WE CAN START OVER WITH A REQUEST,
OR WE CAN GO BACK TO THE, THE TOP 10 THAT YOU GUYS SELECTED FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE AND SEE IF THERE'S THREE
REPLACEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO PURSUE. 
          I LIKE THAT IDEA. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. THE FASTEST. 
          HOW ABOUT IF I BRING THOSE BACK TO THE MEETING ON THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU CAN DO A REVIEW
AND SEE IF THERE ARE IF YOU DON'T SEE ONES YOU LIKE, WE CAN STILL VOTE TO GO DO ANOTHER RF, RFQ. THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          PERFECT. JACK, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE SEE THAT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN
ALL JUST COME PREPARED TO VOTE? I AM SURE SINCE IT'S ALREADY IN THE RECORD, I CAN FORWARD IT TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. YES. AND THEN CAN I PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE UTILITY BOX VOTE AND
DISCUSSION TO OUR NEXT AGENDA? OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ. 
          ALL. ALL OF. AYE. THANK YOU. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT BACK UP. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE
MOVED TO OUR NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA? YOU HAVE AN IN DEPTH ON THE STILL ON THE BUDGET. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS ON THE NEXT AGENDA MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE FULL. 
          OKAY. BUT IF YOU CAN ASK FOR AS MANY AGENDIZED ITEMS,
WE'LL JUST PUT THEM ON AS SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. OKAY. IF WE CHOOSE THE JUNE DATE AND, YOU KNOW,
GO AHEAD AND DO ALL OF THE HOUSEKEEPING STUFF THAT YEAH, COMMISSIONER TANER IS ADVISING, AND WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE ROOM FOR ANOTHER ONE THERE. 
          I'D LIKE TO ALSO MOTION THAT WE ADD THE TRANSIT CENTER,
A SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE. 
          CAN WE DO THAT, OR WILL WE JUST ADD THAT TO? I THINK WITH K.1,
RIGHT. 
          OR YOU HAVE THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEES CAN REPORT ANY TIME,
YOU KNOW, EVERY MEETING. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGENDIZE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? SO NOW THAT WE'RE IN K JACK, IS THIS WHERE WE SHOULD GO THROUGH AND PLACE
OUR VOTE FOR REDONDO BEACH BALLET COMPANY? 
          [01:50:01]
YES, PLEASE. OKAY. IF THAT'S WHERE THE MAYOR RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE
SEEN BY HIM AND COUNCIL. 
          AND I WILL STILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION, MAKE SURE THAT I GET IT TO THEM SEPARATELY AS
WELL. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME JUST PULL THAT BACK UP. 
          OKAY. SO YES. WE'RE JUST HAVING AN ASSOCIATION WITH WE GOT SOME REWORDING TO DO WITH THEM, BUT IT'LL JUST BE LIKE PUTTING THAT UP AS THE,
AS AN ASSOCIATION FOR CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ASSOCIATION WITH THIS DANCE COMPANY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY HAVE THEIR SIX POINTS. 
          DO WE WANT TO JUST SAY THAT WE WANT TO VOTE TO SEND THIS OUR ENDORSEMENT TO COUNCIL A
PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, OR DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON EACH POINT SPECIFICALLY? I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD VOTE ON AS AS A WHOLE TO SEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE. 
          I SUGGEST YOU JUST ASK POLL EVERYBODY. IS THERE ANY ELEMENT THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE
WITH? THAT YOU'D LIKE TO REMOVE? OKAY, YEAH, I DO,
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ELIMINATION OF MAINTENANCE SURCHARGES. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE USING THE SPACE,
THEY'RE USING IT. 
          IT'S WEAR AND TEAR. THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. BUT DO WE CHARGE IF WE GOT OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO
THE, THE CENTER, WE DON'T CHARGE THEM. THERE IS A MAINTENANCE SURCHARGE THAT STARTED THIS YEAR
BY ORDER OF THE COUNCIL. 
          IT IS I BELIEVE 3% OF THE TOTAL. OF. 3% OF THE TOTAL ESTIMATE OF ANY EVENT IS CHARGED AS A MAINTENANCE SURCHARGE THAT GOES INTO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT SOLELY
FOR REPAIRS, UPKEEP AND UPGRADES OF THE THEATER AS OPPOSED TO GOING BACK TO GENERAL FUND THE WAY
EVERYTHING ELSE DOES. 
          THAT'S THE THEATER'S OWN FUND. YEAH, THAT'S A. 
          THAT'S A NEW LITTLE THING FOR THEM TO NOT TO SKIP OUT ON,
BUT THEY ARE STILL PAYING FOR THE SPACE, THOUGH. THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SPACE FREE. IN ALL ACTUALITY,
THOUGH, THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO LOOK AT THIS TOO. AND THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WE GET TO JUST SAY LIKE,
HEY, WE AGREE, WE DON'T AGREE. IT'S UP TO THEM KIND OF TO, TO FIGURE THAT OUT. IS MY UNDERSTANDING, LIKE OUR,
OUR KIND OF GIG IS TO JUST LIKE, SAY YAY OR NAY AND LET THEM PARSE THE ELEMENTS. 
          RIGHT? BUT ULTIMATELY, NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE,
YES OR NO, IT JUST KIND OF CONFLATES THE THING. 
          LIKE THEY CAN LOOK AT IT. IT'S ONLY IT'S NOT THAT MANY SENTENCES. SO COMMISSIONER GOLD
DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE REDUCTION IN FEES AND SURCHARGES. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE EXCLUDED FROM
THIS? RELATED TO THE MAINTENANCE. THAT PARTICULAR FIGURE IS ESTIMATED AT $867 AT THE MOMENT. 
          $867 PER SHOW. BUT SHE CAN GO DOWN AS BEING NOTED ON THAT AS WE SEND THIS UP TO YOU. 
          RIGHT? LIKE, CAN'T SHE JUST BE ATTACHED? LIKE,
EVEN IF SHE JUST DOESN'T LIKE THAT PART, SHE CAN BE NOTED ON THAT. 
          WHEN WE SEND IT TO COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. 
          SO THEN WE TAKE A VOTE NORMALLY. YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO ENDORSE ALL OF IT OR INDIVIDUAL
PIECES OF IT, AND DECIDE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BACK OF THEIR PROPOSAL. 
          THEIR PROPOSAL HAD SIX ITEMS THAT THEY REQUESTED. 
          ONLY A FEW OF THEM HAD COST. AND COMMISSIONER GOLD IS NOT HAPPY WITH ONE OF THEM. 
          OKAY. YEAH. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE EXCLUDED? I JUST WANTED SOMETHING ADDED. OKAY. A NUMBER 7. 
          CAN I DO THAT? SO IF THERE'S A VARIANCE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE EXCLUSIVITY. 
          OH YEAH YOU DID. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE. YOU CAN ADD THAT. 
          YOU CAN MAKE A PROVISO ON YOUR ON YOUR ENDORSEMENT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING FOR BOTH OF THEIR,
IN THEIR CASE. THE OTHER FIVE THINGS. 
          YEAH. WE ARE. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO REMOVE OR? YOU KNOW. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJORITY VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. AND I WOULD NOT ACTUALLY USE THE TERM PARTNERSHIP
BASED ON COMMISSIONER GOLD'S EARLIER COMMENTS. 
          I THINK SHE'S RIGHT. ALSO ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY IS A IS A HIGH
DEMAND. 
          SO LET'S COME UP WITH A BETTER TERM FOR THIS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OR WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO
NAME IT ANYTHING BUT. 
          SO WHEN WE SENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL, DON'T LET'S NOT USE THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. 
          HOW ABOUT A FRIEND OF REDONDO BEACH? A FRIEND OF REDONDO BEACH? I MEAN, YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S OR OFFICIALLY ENDORSED. 
          OR YOU CAN JUST USE THE WE AGREE WITH THE SIX ITEMS OR FIVE ITEMS OF THE PROPOSAL MADE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT YOU AGREE THAT IT'S A PARTNERSHIP OR WHATEVER THE
COUNCIL CAN, 
          [01:55:06]
CAN CHANGE IT ANY WAY THEY WANT. YEAH. THAT'S. 
          AND THEY MAY, THEY MAY DO JUST THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE,
THE ITEMS THAT THEY ASKED FOR, THESE ARE WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO ENDORSE OR NOT ENDORSE IN MASS OR INDIVIDUALLY, HOWEVER YOU THINK BEST. 
          AND LET'S EMPHASIZE THAT THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DIRECT MONEY. 
          SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR VERY DIRECT MONEY BY REDUCING THE REVENUE OF THE THEATER THAT IS
CASH OUT OF POCKET. 
          YES. SO THAT'S. I TELL YOU THAT. BUT DIRECT MONEY I MEAN,
THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR $25,000 IN CASH. 
          ARE THEY? ASKING FOR $10,000 FROM THE THEATER'S POCKET. 
          AND THEY'RE ASKING. THEY ARE ONLY GETTING THAT MONEY IF THEY PERFORM AND IF THEY DO
SOMETHING. 
          OKAY. SO THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR $25,000 TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO TEACH THE KIDS HOW TO DANCE. 
          SO THERE IS NO ASK HERE FOR ANY KIND OF CASH MONEY. 
          CORRECT? WELL, INDIRECTLY. I THINK BY ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE REVENUE THAT THEY'RE
REQUIRED TO PAY A DISCOUNT IS THE SAME AS CASH. OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND THAT,
BUT THAT ONLY OCCURS IF THEY DO SOMETHING RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. RIGHT. THERE IS ALSO THEY COULD HAVE COME TO US AND SAID,
WHY DON'T THE CITY GIVE US? WE ARE DOING ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS. WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A $25,000 GRANT? BECAUSE WE WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY AND YOU KNOW,
THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT. NO, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR 50% OF THE COST OF THEIR MURAL
RESTORATION. 
          I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY OF CONVINCING THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE OVER HERE DEBATING ALL THIS. 
          SEND IT UP. IT'S NOT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WE'RE HERE TO LIKE, HEY, GOOD IDEA, BAD IDEA. 
          IF WE SEND IT UP THE WAY IT IS WITH OUR NOTES,
LET THEM. 
          THEY'RE GETTING PAID TO DO THIS. YEAH. I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. YEAH. ME
NEITHER. ME NEITHER. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP THEM. YEAH, I THINK THAT WHAT ALSO. 
          IF IT COMES BACK DOWN, THEN WE GET TO DO. THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. 
          WE'RE LIKE, HEY, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A PARTNERSHIP. IT'S GOING TO BE $7,000,
WHATEVER. WE GET TO FIGURE THAT OUT BEFORE WE FINALIZE. BUT IT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW,
IS THE WAY I SEE IT. THAT'S A GOOD BUNCH OF IDEAS. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL GO, HEY, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA,
BUT IS IT GOING TO COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION? I'M SORRY? I GUESS I'M CONFUSED. LIKE THEY SENT THIS TO US IN HOPES THAT WE WOULD THEN
PUSH IT ON UP TO. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY, THAT YOU WOULD ENDORSE IT. WHEN THEY PUSH IT ON UP,
THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO ASK TO BE AGENDIZED. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW IF
IT WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE YOU CAN ASK ALL DAY LONG AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK TO BE ON THE COUNCIL AND MAKE THE SAME EXACT PRESENTATION THAT
THEY MADE TO YOU. 
          AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT YOU ENDORSE IT. 
          THAT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE IF YOU DO. I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US TO BE CULTURAL ARTS, NOT PUBLIC ART. AND I THINK THAT THEIR PRESENTATION WAS FANTASTIC, AND I WOULD JUST LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL TO GET TO SEE EVERYTHING THE WAY THAT WE DID WITH
THESE SIX POINTS, AND LET THEM CHOOSE IF THEY WANT TO GIVE THEM DISCOUNTS AND PARTNERSHIPS,
OR IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT IN ALL AREAS. 
          YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR IT TO GO FORWARD AS IS,
BUT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING WITHHELD OR NOTED, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. SHOULD WE JUST TAKE A VOTE? YEAH, SURE. DO WE WANT TO JUST GO DOWN? DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? NO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. SO WE CAN GO DOWN AND YOU CAN EITHER VOTE TO SEND IT
AS IS OR TO SEND IT WITH NOTES. 
          AS IS WITHOUT CALLING IT A PARTNERSHIP. OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THAT A SPECIFIED REQUIREMENT OF THE ENDORSEMENT,
OR ARE YOU JUST NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S A PARTNERSHIP? HOW DO YOU INTEND THAT? NO, I'M JUST IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION. 
          I'M SAYING THAT SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE SENDING THIS TO THE COUNCIL,
WE WILL SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED. 
          WE ARE IN SUPPORT. OKAY. OKAY. AND LET'S ALSO TELL THEM THAT THEY SHOULD REFRAIN FROM
USING THE WORD PARTNERSHIP, BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED, I THINK. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HURT TO HAVE A FEW KEY NOTES FROM SOME OF THE
COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE DISCREPANCIES ON WHAT IT IS, I MEAN. AGREED. SURE. YOU KNOW, LET THEM. GO AHEAD. 
          [02:00:05]
WE AGREE WITH CAVEAT. VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER
TANER. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ. I AGREE WITH ALL THE NOTES. 
          YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND I AGREE WITH OUR NOTES. YEAH VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER GOLD. 
          THE SAME. AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE IN YOUR NOTES? DID YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING? JUST THAT I WOULD. 
          WELL, IT'S NOT A PARTNERSHIP. AND AGAIN, I DON'T I WOULD MAKE THE I WOULD STILL INCLUDE
THE MAINTENANCE SURCHARGE. 
          YEAH. VERY GOOD. AND I VOTE TO SEND IT AS IS. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR VOTE IS THAT WE WILL SEND IT OUT AS IS WITH THE VERY SPECIFIC NOTES
THAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE KNOWN, THAT WE DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE THE VERBIAGE OF PARTNERSHIP. 
          AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL CONSIDER NOT ELIMINATING THE MAINTENANCE FEES. 
          IS THAT HOW YOU WANTED TO GO FORWARD? YEAH. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SEND THE
RECOMMENDATION OF REDONDO BEACH BALLET COMPANY'S PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL WITH OUR NOTES OF. WHAT I JUST SAID THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS WITHOUT THE VERBIAGE OF PARTNERSHIP, AND THAT WE ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER NOT
ELIMINATING THE MAINTENANCE FEES. 
          I MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. SECOND. THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. THAT WAS A HARD ONE. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU,
JACK. 
          DO WE NEED TO HAVE OUR VOTE ON THE ESPLANADE BOLLARDS MOSAICS? DO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT REGISTERED IN K SO THAT WAY IT CAN GO FORWARD? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS NOW GOING TO BECOME A COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL AND PROPOSE IT. 
          OKAY. AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA THAT THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION,
AND IT'S NOW FOR THEM TO APPROVE. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SAY THEY DON'T LIKE THE PROPOSAL ONE,
THEY WANT PROPOSAL THREE. 
          IT COULD HAPPEN. BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE SAME PRESENTATION TO THEM WITH THE WITH YOUR
ENDORSEMENT. 
          THANK YOU. YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS AN ADVISORY BODY. 
          OKAY. SAME WAY WE DID THE MURALS. WE'RE NOW AT K.1. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES? NOPE. WE'RE JUST WAITING. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT. 
          YEAH. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THE BUDGET ITEMS SHOULD INCLUDE PROBABLY THE
EXPENDITURE OF THE OF THE BOLLARDS. AND IT SHOULD PROBABLY PUT ALSO A SEPARATE ITEM IN REQUESTING THE RETURN
OF THE UNSPENT MONEY SO THAT WE GET IT AVAILABLE TO US IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          THAT'S A GREAT POINT. YEAH. WE'LL JUST ADD THOSE NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MEETING. 
          YEAH, YEAH. MAY MEETING. YEAH I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO YOU. 
          OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WITH THAT. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH CULTURAL
ARTS COMMISSION WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD AT 7:00 P.M. 
          MAY 27TH, 2026 IN THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET,
REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOLD. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9:05 THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.