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04:30 P.M.. CLOSED SESSION MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

[4:30 P.M. - CLOSED SESSION - ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING]

[00:00:04]

CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION? NONE FOR CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. LET'S SEE, NOW WE'RE JUMPING DOWN TO E, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. IS ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS.

OKAY. COULD YOU READ OFF ITEMS F.1 THROUGH F.3?

[F. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION]

WHICH ARE THE ITEMS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IN CLOSED SESSION.

YES, AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

ITEM F.1 IS UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

EXISTING LITIGATION. THE NAME OF THE CASE IS JOSEPH RANGEL VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH WCAB NUMBER UNASSIGNED.

ITEMS F.2 AND F.3 ARE UNDER THE TITLE CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR.

FOR F.2 THE PROPERTY IS 123 INTERNATIONAL BOARDWALK.

A PORTION OF APN 7505-002-908. AND FOR F.3, THE PROPERTY IS PORTIONS OF THE REDONDO BEACH MARINA PARKING LOT AND SEASIDE LAGOON. PORTIONS OF APN NUMBERS 7503-029- 900, AND 7503-029-903. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE ITEMS? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK.

FOR ITEM F.1 WE WILL ALSO HAVE DIANE STRICKFADEN, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, AND CAROLYN BELISO, OUR OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. FOR ITEM F.2, WE WILL HAVE KATHERINE BUCK OUR ACTING WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, JON GOETZ, OUR OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE MATTER AND OUR SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER, DAVID BIGGS.

AND THEN FOR ITEM F.3, WE'LL HAVE LUKE SMUDE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, ALONG WITH KATHERINE BUCK OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? MOVE RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 0, ONE ABSENT.

WE WILL BE COMING BACK ON OR ABOUT 6:00 FOR THE OPEN SESSION.

AND I BELIEVE WE'RE BREAKING AT 5:30 FOR THE RAISING OF THE PRIDE FLAG AND FOR PROCLAMATION OUT FRONT IN FRONT OF THIS CIVIC CENTER.

WE WILL SEE YOU THEN. THANKS. OKAY, EVERYONE, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

[G. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

RECONVENING TO OPEN SESSION FROM CLOSED SESSION.

COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI IS ABSENT AT THE MOMENT.

HOWEVER, WHEN HE COMES IN, WE'LL HAVE TO GET HIM A CONFIRMATION THAT HE HAS POSTED 72 HOURS THE AGENDA.

I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO DIAL IN TONIGHT. I THINK HE'S PLANNING TO. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, GOING DOWN TO ITEM I ON THE CLOSED SESSION AGENDA.

CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, ANYTHING TO ANNOUNCE FROM CLOSED SESSION? NO ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING. \ OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.

SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL FOR. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.

I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE 6 P.M. OPEN SESSION REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI ABSENT UNTIL LATER.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE.

IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE STAND NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE TO OUR NATION.

AND NOW, PLEASE LET US ALL STAND FOR THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND REMAIN STANDING AFTERWARDS FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT REFLECTION.

AFTERWARDS, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP ALANA, WHO WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

ALANA. THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE ON.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALANA. I'M A FOURTH GRADER AT BIRNEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL IS ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS.

I LOVE BEING CLOSE TO THE BEACH AND ALL MY FRIENDS AT SCHOOL IN REDONDO BEACH.

PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION.

[00:05:06]

OKAY. PLEASE BE SEATED. ALANA. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

COME ON UP AND GET A PICTURE. GREAT JOB. YOU ENUNCIATE VERY WELL.

WELL DONE. YOU CAN COME UP AND GET A PICTURE.

THE WHOLE FAMILY. OKAY, NOW THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN COME UP. COME ON UP. OKAY. OH. HE'S HERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. YEAH. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL DONE.

[D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS]

OKAY, WE'LL NOW DO ITEM D ON THE OPEN SESSION AGENDA PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T OUT THERE WITH US EARLIER, WE DID A PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING THIS PRIDE MONTH AND RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG OVER THE CIVIC CENTER. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT FOR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AB1234 EXPENSES, WE HAD THE MEDAL OF VALOR EVENT.

SO I DO HAVE EXPENSES FOR THAT WHICH ARE VIEWABLE AND RETRIEVABLE FROM OUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS, ASSISTANT. AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. THANK YOU, CHIEF AND NICOLE SPRENGEL AND OUR MEDAL OF VALOR RECIPIENTS.

I'M SURE OTHERS WILL SPEAK TO THAT. FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.

TOMORROW NIGHT, WE DO HAVE THE PILLARS OF PUBLIC SAFETY PART FOUR EVENT WITH LADA NATHAN HOCHMAN, 6 P.M., REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

IT'S OPEN TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

AND YES, REFRESHMENTS WILL BE SERVED. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

MAYOR. YES. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH, 6 P.M., LINCOLN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAFETERIA COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC AND I WILL BE HOSTING AN ADDITIONAL AND LIKELY FINAL FOR THE YEAR CROSSING GUARD MEETING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE CITY'S CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM, THE UPCOMING CHANGES. I WILL BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, HEARING FROM RESIDENTS.

WE HOPE EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT. AND MAYOR, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE REALLY AN ALL STAR TEAM.

IT'S GOING TO BE CAPTAIN LONG. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, RYAN LIU.

CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER JANE CHUNG.

WE COULD ALSO COUNT ON MR. COMMUNITY BASED OFFICER KYLE LOFSTROM.

AND WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST, MR. DAN ELDER FROM THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF EDUCATION WILL BE PRESENT.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE DOCTOR NANCY KELLEY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB ON THIS AND POTENTIALLY MISS AMY HUH FROM THE, AS BRAD KNOWS, REDONDO BEACH PTA, REALLY A WONDERFUL PERSON AND HAS DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH AND SHOWN INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE REDONDO BEACH FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES IN THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM.

AND LASTLY, OUR HOST WILL BE THE LINCOLN PRINCIPAL.

AND AS WE KNOW, THAT'S DOCTOR CHRISTINE KIM. SO THAT AGAIN, NEXT WEDNESDAY, 6 P.M.

LOCATION. WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE LINCOLN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAFETERIA, AND WE WILL SERVE REFRESHMENTS FOR THAT.

LASTLY, IF I COULD, MAYOR, OF COURSE, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO OUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, MISS JANE CHUNG, WHO'S REALLY BEEN THE FACE OF THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL NAVIGATING THIS AND HAS SHOWN A LOT OF INTEGRITY AND HAS REALLY BEEN A ROCK THROUGHOUT.

SO THANK YOU TO, TO MISS CHUNG AND THANK YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR THE STAFF THAT YOU'VE ASSEMBLED.

THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL JUMP TO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I, TOO, ATTENDED THE SOUTH BAY MEDAL OF VALOR AWARDS.

WE SAW NINE OF OUR REDONDO BEACH FIRST RESPONDERS HONORED AT THAT EVENT.

I ALSO ATTENDED THE REDONDO BEACH ED FOUNDATION GALA AND THE FIRST TWO CRUISE AND LAGOON CAR SHOWS.

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BOTH OF THOSE WERE REALLY WELL ATTENDED. UNEVENTFUL.

NO. NO CRAZINESS. NO NO BAD BEHAVIOR BY THE, BY THE ATTENDEES.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WENT VERY WELL. WE HAD THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY LAST WEEK WHERE THE GOVERNOR SENT A COMMENDATION TO REDONDO BEACH. AND I ATTENDED THE RETIREMENT CELEBRATION FOR TWO OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES EMPLOYEES LAST WEEK, FOLLOWED BY ATTENDING THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT RETIREMENT CELEBRATION, WHERE AMONGST MORE THAN 20 WAS DOCTOR ANNETTE ALPERN, A VERY LONG TIME MEMBER OF THAT BOARD, ONE THAT SHE WORKED WITH ANNETTE THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I WAS ON THE BOARD THERE.

SAD TO SEE HER GO, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THE DISTRICT SUCCESSION PLAN GOING WELL AND THEY'LL LEAVE, LEAVE, SHE'LL LEAVE IN GOOD HANDS. A COUPLE DAYS LATER WAS THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT OF THE YEAR AWARDS, WHERE I GOT TO SEE 12 VERY IMPRESSIVE STUDENTS.

ALWAYS GOOD TO GO TO THIS EVENT BECAUSE LET'S US KNOW THAT OUR CITY IS IN GOOD HANDS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I ATTENDED LAST WEEK WAS A RIBBON CUTTING FOR A PLACE CALLED GLAM CRAFT NAIL LOUNGE ON PCH IN SOUTH REDONDO.

UPCOMING TOMORROW NIGHT, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE PILLARS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND YOU HAVE YOUR TICKETS ALREADY, DINE AROUND RIVIERA VILLAGE. IT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW EVENING OR EARLY AFTERNOON OR LATE AFTERNOON EVENING.

THERE'S 24 RESTAURANTS PARTICIPATING AND TEN RETAILERS PARTICIPATING.

IT SOLD OUT IN THREE DAYS. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR.

AND DON'T EAT ALL DAY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TON OF FOOD.

THE NEXT DAY I GOT THE CLEAN POWER LINES BOARD MEETING AND I WILL BE ALSO ATTENDING THE REDONDO HIGH SCHOOL SCHOLARSHIP CEREMONY.

ON THE FIFTH IS A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES HOUSING COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY MEETING, AND THEN A LAST CRUISIN AT THE LAGOON, AND THEN ON SATURDAY, OF COURSE IS KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL'S SATURDAY SWEEP 9 A.M.

AT AVENUE I AND ESPLANADE. THEY HAVE ALL THE SUPPLIES YOU WILL NEED.

AND YOU MISSED ONE. YOU'LL BE REPRESENTING US AT THE SANITATION DISTRICT MEETING.

YEP. THAT'S AFTER THIS EVENING. YES. ASSUMING WE PASS ONE OF THE ITEMS. I WILL BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE. AT THE SANITATION DISTRICT MEETING TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. THANK YOU.

OUTSIDE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HAPPY PRIDE MONTH.

AND I ALSO ATTENDED THE MEDAL OF VALOR. AND I WANT TO REPORT THAT AT OUR LAST SOUTH BAY REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST MEETING, WE APPROVED A $6 MILLION FUNDING GAP FOR A PROJECT IN HAWTHORNE.

IT'S A ONE ACRE CITY OWNED REDEVELOPMENT SITE IN HAWTHORNE.

IT WILL BE 93 UNITS, ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS EXTREMELY LOW AND LOW INCOME UNITS.

AND THE TOTAL COST FOR THIS PROJECT IS 76 MILLION.

OF WHICH, AS I SAID, 6 MILLION IS COMING FROM OUR NEWLY FORMED HOUSING TRUST, AND THE CITY OF HAWTHORNE IS ACTUALLY PITCHING IN 7 MILLION OF THEIR OWN FUNDS TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF HOUSING THAT A CITY IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR IN A PLACE THAT THEY'RE WANTING IT AND WE ARE HELPING MAKING IT HAPPEN. SO IT'S NICE THAT WE VOTED TO DO THAT.

THAT'S IT MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

I ATTENDED THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY AT VETERANS PARK, THE MEDAL OF VALOR LUNCHEON WHERE WE RECEIVED SEVERAL AWARDS FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE CRUISE AT THE LAGOON.

THAT'S NOW EVERY FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SEPTEMBER 11TH THIS SEPTEMBER.

COMING UP ON SATURDAY THE 13TH, I'M STILL WORKSHOPPING THE NAME, BUT I HAVE THE PILLAR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.

STILL WORKING ON IT. ON SATURDAY, JUNE 13TH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE DIRECTOR, ELIZABETH HAUSE, WILL BE SPEAKING AT WILDERNESS PARK, SO DECIDED TO MOVE IT FROM THE LIBRARY ON A WEDNESDAY TO SATURDAY MORNING AT WILDERNESS PARK.

WE'LL BE TALKING ALL THINGS ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE, PARKS, CAMPS, SENIOR SERVICES, ETC.

ACROSS THE CITY. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, HERE AT CITY HALL, WE HAVE THE LIBRARY'S KICKOFF TO SUMMER READING, AS WELL AS THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION THAT WILL BE HERE IN THE TURNAROUND RIGHT HERE OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL IN THE LIBRARY.

SO THAT WILL BE A GREAT FUN DAY ON SATURDAY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

[00:15:03]

OKAY. THANK YOU. BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND I WERE AT THE MEDAL OF VALOR LUNCHEON AS WELL.

SO IT WAS A FULL, FULL SLATE FROM THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND WE APPRECIATED AND HONORED THOSE, THOSE WHO EARN THOSE MEDALS, WE WILL BE RECOGNIZING THEM IN A FUTURE MEETING OF THE COUNCIL.

SO THEY'RE NOT DONE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT AND I HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS TO DO THE STATE OF THE CITY AT ANOTHER TIME WHEN MAYBE MORE RESIDENTS COULD ATTEND.

SO I DID THAT IN THE EVENING AT THE LIBRARY AND IT WAS A FREE EVENT.

SO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME OUT AND IT WAS GOOD CONVERSATION.

I ATTENDED THE SANITATION DISTRICT MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO AND HAD A VOTE ON WE HAD TO VOTE ON RATES FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS. THERE'S STILL ONE MORE MEETING ON THAT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE APPOINT A SUBSTITUTE FOR ME, BECAUSE I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW THAT I CAN'T I CAN'T DISINVITE MYSELF SINCE I SET UP THE MEETING.

SO HOPEFULLY AFTER TONIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER WILL BE DULY DEPUTIZED TO SUPPORT THAT FUNCTION WHERE THEY'LL FINALIZE THAT VOTE.

WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR DOMINGUEZ PARK PLAYGROUND. I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT AT A COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT WAS VERY NICE EVENT. WE HAD THE VENDORS WHO WHO BUILD IT UP.

WE HAD COMMUNITY SERVICES. PUBLIC WORKS. IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT TURNOUT.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S VERY HAPPY THAT THAT THING FINALLY THING IS FINALLY OPEN.

IT'S ALSO THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY PARTY FOR FOR THE PARK THAT WE COULDN'T USE.

FOR THE PLAYGROUND WE COULDN'T USE. ATTENDED AND SPOKE AT, HAD THE HONOR OF SPEAKING AT THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY.

HATS OFF TO TOM LASSAR AND HIS TEAM FOR PUTTING TOGETHER YET ANOTHER GREAT EVENT.

WE HAD AN ACTUAL MARINE BAND THERE AND A LOT OF MARINES AND NAVAL NAVY PERSONNEL ATTENDING IN UNIFORM.

SO IT'S A SPECIAL, SPECIAL EVENT. REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.

COMING UP THURSDAY, I'LL BE ATTENDING THE REGIONAL.

I'LL BE REPRESENTING OUR REGION OF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA OF GOVERNMENTS.

FIRST TIME WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THAT IN THAT CAPACITY FOR SOME TIME.

SO I'LL BE REPRESENTING OUR AREA, THE SOUTH BAY TO THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS.

AND THAT AFFECTS EVERYTHING FROM TRANSPORTATION TO TO HOUSING.

SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO PARTICIPATE IN.

I'M HONORED TO BE CHOSEN. WELL, NOBODY ELSE RAN, BUT I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US HERE IN THE SOUTH BAY ON THAT, THAT CRITICAL ORGANIZATION. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

ANY SECONDS? OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM E ON THE OPEN SESSION AGENDA.

[E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

DOES ANYONE WISH TO CHANGE ANYTHING? ANYTHING ON THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? I DO NOT. OKAY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.

ALL FOR? AYE. DID YOU GIVE ME AN AYE? YOU DID? OKAY, THAT'S FOUR ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT. SO WE WILL GO AS PUBLISHED.

WE DO HAVE TWO AGENCY RECESSES TONIGHT. THE FIRST IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.

[F. AGENCY RECESS]

COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

MOVE TO RECESS TO THE MEETING OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW IN THE REGULAR. I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY.

HOUSING. I'M SORRY. HOUSING AUTHORITY. GOT HIM OUT OF ORDER HERE. COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. MEMBER CASTLE.

HERE. MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. MEMBER OBAGI.

ABSENT. MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. COMMISSIONER PRICE.

COMMISSIONER NEWTON. HERE. AND CHAIRMAN LIGHT.

HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S SEE. COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. I NEED A, I NEED A LAST AYE DOWN THERE.

AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? NOT FOR THIS AGENCY. OKAY, WE HAVE CONSENT CALENDAR C.1 THROUGH C.3.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR C.1 ONE THROUGH C.3.

SO MOVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE WE, BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE, DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ITEM C.1 THROUGH C.3 OF THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY AGENDA? OKAY. SEEING NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE ONLINE?

[00:20:02]

I HAVE MARK NELSON, BUT I'M NOT SURE HE HAS HIS HAND UP.

I'M NOT SURE IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.

GO AHEAD MARK. I WAS ACTUALLY HANGING FOR E, THE ONE WE JUST WENT THROUGH.

SO NOTHING ON THIS ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NONE AND NO.

OKAY, I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOUR. OKAY.

ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.

I MEAN, FIVE ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT. OKAY. WE HAVE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, SO WE'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM E PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS RELATED TO THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.

DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ON ITEMS WITHIN ITS PURVIEW? OKAY. SEEING NONE. ANYONE? I HAVE NONE FOR BOTH.

OKAY. OKAY, SO WE'LL JUMP DOWN TO ITEM I.1 RECEIVE AND FILE THE QUARTERLY STATUS REPORT ON SECTION EIGHT. ON THE SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD MEMBERS.

ELIZABETH HAUSE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. AND WITH ME TONIGHT AND PRESENTING TONIGHT IS IMELDA DELGADO.

SHE IS OUR HOUSING MANAGER. THIS IS OUR QUARTERLY UPDATE TO YOU, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SHARE THAT.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD NEWS ITEMS IN TONIGHT'S UPDATE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO IMELDA.

YOU WILL NOTICE THOUGH, AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES, SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE REPORT WE JUST WENT, WE WENT AND CHECKED THE NUMBERS THIS MORNING AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE MOST RECENT UPDATE TO THOSE NUMBERS. SO YOU MIGHT SEE A SLIGHT DISCREPANCY IN A COUPLE OF THOSE NUMBERS. BUT THAT'S WHY. AND WITH THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO IMELDA.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS IMELDA DELGADO.

I'M THE HOUSING MANAGER FOR THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE CURRENTLY AND AS MENTIONED, AFTER THE REPORT WAS FINALIZED, WE DISCOVERED AN ERROR IN NUMERICAL DATA ON PAGE ONE OF THE STAFF REPORT. THE ACTUAL AVERAGE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS ASSISTED FOR THE QUARTER IS 398 INSTEAD OF 414. THAT WAS AN ERROR. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE MISTAKE.

WE HAVE OF THOSE 398 FAMILIES, 256 WERE OUR ELDERLY, 183 ARE DISABLED HOUSEHOLDS.

WE ASSIST 20 FAMILIES IN PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE TIED TO THE UNIT RATHER THAN THE TENANT AT THE MOONSTONE APARTMENT COMPLEX. ACTUAL QUARTERLY SPENDING RESULTS IN 2.1 MILLION FOR THE QUARTER.

I OVERESTIMATED THE JUNE. AS THIS REPORT IS DONE IN ADVANCE, THE ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR JUNE IS 699.

THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS WE ADMINISTER. ONE IS THE VETERAN AFFAIRS SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS.

WE HAVE 28 LEASED UP OUT OF 50 AND WE ADMINISTERED 20 EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS.

OUR WAITING LIST APPLICANTS ARE DOWN TO 745 APPLICATIONS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY PURGING MONTHLY. WE SEND OUT APPROXIMATELY 100 LETTERS.

THOSE THAT DO NOT RESPOND ARE WITHDRAWN FROM THE WAITING LIST.

OF THOSE 745 APPLICANTS, 352 ARE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, 223 ARE ELDERLY FAMILIES, AND 339 ARE FAMILIES WITH DISABILITIES. WE ALSO ADDED THE EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER PARTICIPANTS TO THE WAITING LIST TO TRANSITION OVER TO THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER OR SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM.

AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE 16 APPLICANTS THAT LIVE OR WORK IN REDONDO BEACH.

BEFORE I LEAVE THAT, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE REAL QUICK? ARE THOSE FIRST THREE CATEGORIES MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OR IS THERE OVERLAP? THERE'S OVERLAP. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED A NOTICE ON MAY 26TH FROM HUD. IT'S THE HUD PRELIMINARY PROJECTIONS FOR 2026, WHICH INDICATE THAT THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOT CURRENTLY PROJECTED AT, AS AT RISK FOR SHORTFALL IN 2026. ALTHOUGH WE ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO COST SAVINGS MEASURES PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED BY THE SHORTFALL PREVENTION TEAM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO AVOID INCREASING PROGRAM COSTS.

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STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH OUR EXPENDITURES CAREFULLY.

WHICH LEADS TO THE TRANSITION OF THE EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS TO THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM.

WE WILL BEGIN THE TRANSITION IN ORDER TO STAY FINANCIALLY HEALTHY.

STAFF WILL IMPLEMENT A PHASED TRANSITION OF EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER HOUSEHOLDS TO THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM BASED ON VOUCHER TURNOVER, FUNDING, AVAILABILITY AND HUD GUIDANCE. WE HAVE SCHEDULED A SPECIAL HOUSING AUTHORITY MEETING FOR JUNE 16TH, 2026 TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER PROPOSED REVISIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN REGARDING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES GOVERNING THE PROCESS FOR ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BOARD RECEIVE AND FILE THE QUARTERLY STATUS REPORT ON THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AND MAY I JUST ADD A QUICK FINE POINT TO THAT? I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK THE HOUSING TEAM HAS PUT INTO THIS.

WE ARE NO LONGER IN SHORTFALL, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.

THEY IMMEDIATELY TOOK ACTION TO MAKE SURE EACH OF VOUCHER HOLDERS CAN BE PUT ON THE WAITLIST.

WE CAN HELP THEM IMMEDIATELY AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UPDATES.

YOU KNOW, THE BOARD REQUESTED FOR THE WAITING LIST TO BE UPDATED AND THE WAY WE MANAGE THAT.

SO JUST KUDOS TO THE TEAM. WE'RE ACTUALLY OPERATING AT 50% STAFFING LEVELS RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT AND THE WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL WRAP UP AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND THE GREAT JOB YOU'RE DOING ON THIS PROGRAM.

I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER. LET'S USE OUR HANDS.

COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. MOUSE ISN'T WORKING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO TO. I KNOW YOU HAD TO KIND OF REDO THE THE PUBLIC MEETING.

THAT WAS THAT YOU HAD ALREADY AGENDIZED TO REVISE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE DONE.

SO I RECOGNIZE THAT. THANK YOU. I DO THINK THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ANNUAL SECTION EIGHT LIST THAT'S PURGED ANNUALLY WILL HELP US MEET THE NEED OF, OF THE RESIDENTS HERE IN REDONDO BEACH TO A MUCH GREATER EXTENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXTRA EFFORT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SO FOR THE EHV VOUCHERS, THE EMERGENCY, I FORGET THE ACRONYM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THOSE VOUCHERS WERE FOR THOSE WHO WERE UNHOUSED DURING THE PANDEMIC, PRIORITIZED AND GOT THESE VOUCHERS.

THEY WERE MEANT TO GO THROUGH 2030. CORRECT. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SLASHED FUNDING.

SO NOW THOSE FAMILIES, WE ARE SCRAMBLING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STILL STAY HOUSED.

THEY ARE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I'M JUST TALKING MYSELF THROUGH THIS SO THAT I UNDERSTAND IT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

BUT THEY'RE PRIORITIZED IN OUR SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM AS THEY COME AVAILABLE.

YES. THEY'RE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST CURRENTLY.

OKAY. SO THEY WILL BE PULLED FIRST WHEN, WHEN WE START PULLING.

AND DO WE HAVE, I HEARD AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS HAS BEEN VALIDATED, BUT I HEARD THAT THEIR PAYMENTS HAVE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WILL NOT BE FUNDED PAST JULY? OR YOU HAVE VERIFICATION YET? WE HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH JULY.

HUD HAS PROMISED TO FUND US THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT WE'RE GOING STEP BY STEP.

SO WE'RE FUNDED AS WE RUN OUT, WE RECEIVE FUNDING.

OKAY, SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MONTH BY MONTH SITUATION THAT HUD PUT US IN.

YES. THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE WITH.

THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR LANDLORDS TO LIVE WITH.

SO I DON'T SEE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, BUT THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEPING ALL OF THIS AT THE TOP.

AND LET'S HOPE THAT THEY CAN DO BETTER. WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO TRANSITION THEM BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF FUNDS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO. OH, NOPE. YEAH. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE QUARTERLY STATUS REPORT ON SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM? MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS ITEM I.1 ON THE AGENDA FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY?

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ANYONE ONLINE? I HAVE MARK NELSON. GO AHEAD. MARK.

MARK, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH, I SWEAR I PUT THAT HAND DOWN.

IT JUST WON'T STAY. OKAY, SO I TAKE IT YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY, SO I'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR? AYE. DID YOU? OKAY. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 0 WITH ONE ABSENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM J, ANY MEMBER ITEMS OR, AND REFERRALS TO STAFF? NONE. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MR.. PRICE. ANY REFERRALS TO STAFF? NO. OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY.

SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 0 WITH ONE ABSENT. SO WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 AT 6 P.M., RIGHT HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. WAS IT JUNE OR JULY 16TH? JUNE 16TH. SO NEXT TWO TUESDAYS FROM NOW. TWO TUESDAYS FROM NOW.

6 P.M.. RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY, I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY.

COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. MEMBER OBAGI ABSENT. MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE.

CHAIRMAN LIGHT. HERE. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, OR DOES ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.

DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY? NOT FOR THIS AGENCY. THANK YOU. OKAY LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ITEM C.1 TO C.4 ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM C.1 TO C.4 ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR. SECOND. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE FINANCING AUTHORITY ON ITEM C.1 THROUGH C.4 ON THE COMMUNITY FINANCING AUTHORITY AGENDA? SEEING NONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

ANYONE ONLINE? NONE. NOT MARK? NO. OKAY. I'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 0 WITH ONE ABSENT.

OKAY, JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM E ON THE FINANCING AUTHORITY AGENDA.

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THE FINANCING AUTHORITY ON ANYTHING WITHIN THE FINANCING AUTHORITY'S PURVIEW? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? NONE. OKAY. ITEM JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM J. MEMBER ITEMS AND REFERRALS TO STAFF. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE AUTHORITY WISH TO HAVE ANY REFERRALS TO STAFF? NO. OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BACK TO THE OPEN SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

CARRIES FOUR ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT. OKAY. NOW BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. I'LL CALL IT BACK TO ORDER. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS?

[G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

ITEM G. YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE J.1 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION NON-AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS L.2 WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET AND 2027 2031 FISCAL FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS AND ALSO P.1 FOR THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A NEW MAYOR PRO TEM DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES, A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL BLUE FOLDER DOCUMENTS.

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MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE BLUE FOLDER DOCUMENTS.

SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT.

OKAY, NOW WE'RE JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM H ON THE AGENDA.

[H. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THAT'S CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS H.1 TO H.9. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.9? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE H1.1 THROUGH H.9 SO MOVED.

SECOND. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ITEMS? H.1 THROUGH H.9 BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY. NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

ANYONE ONLINE? I HAVE NO ECOMMENTS AND NO ZOOM.

OKAY, WITH THAT, I'LL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.9 PASS WITH A FOUR ZERO VOTE WITH ONE ABSENT. DO YOU NEED TO READ ANYTHING? H.1 ADOPT BY 4/5TH VOTE BY TITLE ONLY. RESOLUTION NUMBER CC- 2606-034 A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA AUTHORIZING 2025 2026 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET MODIFICATION TO APPROPRIATE $150,705.93 TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CARES ACT, CDBG-CV FUNDS TO THE INTERNATIONAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS FUND FOR HOUSING NAVIGATOR SUPERVISOR SALARY REIMBURSEMENT $75,167.45 AND THE PALLET SHELTER OPERATIONS $75,538.48.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. JUMPING TO ITEM J PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS.

[J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION.

THIS SECTION WILL BE LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES TOTAL.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

WRITTEN REQUESTS, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE, WILL BE CONSIDERED FIRST UNDER THIS SECTION.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL TWO NAMES AT A TIME.

PLEASE BOTH GET READY TO COME ON UP SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE TIME.

FIRST IS JULIE PERINO AND THE SECOND IS JOE DREZNER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JULIE PERINO.

I LIVE AT 1920 HUNTINGTON LANE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO RECEIVED A CODE ENFORCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT UNDER 10.10-2.1524 HEDGES.

SO I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT FOR CONNECTING FOR THE WORK UNDERWAY ALREADY ON THIS ORDINANCE.

THE PROPOSED REFORM REQUIRING A BONA FIDE COMPLAINT FROM AN ACTUAL NEIGHBOR IS THOUGHTFUL.

IT ADDRESSES THE WEAPONIZATION OF THIS AMBIGUOUS CODE THAT'S AFFECTED OVER 50 RESIDENTS.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR THREE ADDITIONAL POINTS AS THIS WORK MOVES FORWARD.

THE FIRST, AND MOST URGENTLY, IS I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RECOMMEND A PAUSE ON ENFORCEMENT PENDING NOTICES DURING THIS REVIEW.

SOME RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY COMPLIED AT SIGNIFICANT PERSONAL COSTS AND IN SOME CASES, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND IRREVERSIBLE REMOVAL OF DECADES OLD VEGETATION.

THEY ACTED IN GOOD FAITH TO THE STANDARD OF THE CITY AND NOW PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY, ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS IS AN AMBIGUOUS CODE AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF RECONSIDERING.

EVERY DAY, ENFORCEMENT CONTINUES. MORE RESIDENTS WILL TAKE IRREVERSIBLE ACTION, AND, AND THE REFORM MIGHT MAKE IT UNNECESSARY.

SO A FORMAL PAUSE WOULD PREVENT OTHER FURTHER PREVENTABLE HARM.

AND ONCE THE COMPLIANT PROCESS IS REVISED, I ASK THAT PENDING NOTICES BE SET ASIDE NOT BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING VEGETATION CONCERNS ARE NECESSARILY INVALID, BUT BECAUSE THE COMPLAINTS DRIVING THEM THERE WERE FILED UNDER THE PROCESS THE CITY HAS NOW DECIDED WAS FLAWED.

IT IS QUALIFYING NEIGHBOR UNDER THE NEW STANDARD THAT HAS A CONCERN AND THEY CAN FILE.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR AND CONTINUING TO ENFORCE NOTICES GENERATED BY A PROCESS THE CITY IS MOVING AWAY FROM IS NOT.

I NOTE THAT MY OWN CERTIFIED LETTER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN UNANSWERED, AND I HAVE REQUESTED MEASURABLE COMPLIANCE STANDARD AND A BRIEF EXTENSION.

I TAKE THAT AS THE CITY EXERCISING REASONABLE DISCRETION.

AND I'M SIMPLY ASKING THAT THIS DISCRETION BE MADE FORMAL AND UNIFORM SO THAT EVERY AFFECTED RESIDENT KNOWS WHERE THEY STAND.

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SECONDLY, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE REFORM ADDRESS THE AMBIGUITY IN WHAT IS COMPLIANCE ACTUALLY MEANS.

THE 42 INCH AND THE SIX FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT IS CLEAR, BUT WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS WHEN TREES ARE CONSIDERED A CONTINUOUS HEDGE.

THERE'S NO MEASURABLE STANDARD, NO REQUIRED SEPARATION BETWEEN TRUNKS OR CANOPY GAP OR A SPECIFIED HEIGHT OF MEASUREMENT.

I KNOW OTHER RESIDENTS WILL SPEAK TONIGHT TO THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT INCLUDING DIRECTION THAT GOES WELL BEYOND ANYTHING THE ORDINANCE ITSELF SPECIFIES, AND I'LL LEAVE THOSE STORIES TO THEM. BUT THE PATTERN IS STRUCTURAL.

THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT PROVIDE CONSISTENT STANDARDS. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. JO DRESNER THEN. HAI TRAN.

NO CLAPPING. YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. IF YOU WANT TO EXPRESS A SUPPORT, DO THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO. IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER, DO THIS.

PLEASE. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS JO DRESNER. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN REDONDO BEACH SINCE 2005.

WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR CURRENT HOME FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS.

OUR TWO BOYS ATTEND BIRNEY ELEMENTARY, WHERE WE ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED AND WE FEEL DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THIS COMMUNITY.

RECENTLY, WE RECEIVED A NOTICE REGARDING FRONT YARD HEDGES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER 12 YEARS.

AS WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH CITY STAFF AND LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE CODE, IT HAS BECOME CLEARER THAT THIS IS NOT SIMPLY AN ISSUE AFFECTING OUR HOME.

IT IS A BROADER COMMUNITY ISSUE IMPACTING FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT REDONDO BEACH.

MANY OF THESE RECENT NOTICES APPEAR TO STEM FROM COMPLAINTS SUBMITTED BY A SINGLE RESIDENT, RATHER THAN CONCERNS RAISED BY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.

AS A RESULT, LONG STANDING LANDSCAPING FEATURES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY ARE SUDDENLY BEING SUBJECTED TO ENFORCEMENT, CREATING SIGNIFICANT EMOTIONAL AND FINANCIAL STRESS FOR HOMEOWNERS.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY TO REVIEW BOTH THE CODE ITSELF AND THE COMPLAINT DRIVEN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

WHILE WE FULLY AGREE THAT SAFETY, VISIBILITY AND MAINTENANCE ARE OF TOP IMPORTANCE.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT AS REDONDO CONTINUES TO DEVELOP AND DENSITY INCREASES, PRESERVING GREENERY, PRIVACY AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER REMAINS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY'S WELL-BEING.

MATURE LANDSCAPING PROVIDES PRIVACY, NOISE REDUCTION, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE CHARACTER THAT MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DESIRABLE PLACES TO LIVE. WE HOPE THE CITY WILL CONSIDER WHETHER FACTORS SUCH AS NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT, SAFETY MIGHT, MIGRATION ISSUES, PROPER MAINTENANCE, AND THE LENGTH OF TIME A FEATURE HAS EXISTED SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS MOVE FORWARD. IN THE CASE OF OUR HOME, WE HAVE COLLECTED MORE THAN 70 SIGNATURES FROM IMMEDIATE AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WHO SUPPORT PRESERVING OUR LANDSCAPING. WE'VE INSTALLED A VISIBILITY MIRROR.

WE MAINTAIN OUR HEDGES PROFESSIONALLY, AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO ENSURE OUR PROPERTY REMAINS SAFE AND WELL CARED FOR.

OUR FRONT YARD IS NOT SIMPLY LANDSCAPING. AS THE FRONT UNIT OF A TWO ON A LOT PROPERTY.

IT IS OUR FAMILY'S PRIMARY OUTDOOR SPACE. IT'S WHERE OUR CHILDREN PLAY, IT'S WHERE WE GATHER AS A FAMILY, AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE TO MAKE OUR HOME IN REDONDO BEACH.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE CITY CONSIDER REVISING BOTH THE CODE AND THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, SO THAT REASONABLE CONTEXT AND COMMUNITY INPUT CAN BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS BEGIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE, AND YOUR DEDICATION TO OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. HYDE TRAN AND THEN TONY TRUTANICH.

I HAVE SOME PICTURES TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL.

OKAY. FOR ME TO SHARE. WITH COUNCIL. SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I KNOW WE'RE HERE. DID YOU GIVE IT TO THE CLERK? I'LL TAKE IT OFF. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HYDE TRAN, AND I AM A PROFESSOR AT LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY.

FINANCE PROFESSOR AND THE RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 11 YEARS, AND ON MAY 11TH.

SO I RECEIVED THE SAME NOTICE OF VIOLATION THAT OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE RECEIVED.

AND YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A DUPLEX AND WE LIVE IN THE BACK UNIT AND WE RENT OUT THE FRONT UNIT TO TENANTS AND THIS HEDGE FOR US, OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THE PRIVACY FOR THE FRONT YARD UNITS, TENANTS. THAT HEDGE SERVES AS A SCREENING FOR THEIR FRONT LIVING WINDOWS, THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE.

SO ANYBODY WHO WALKS BY CAN ESSENTIALLY LOOK DOWN BELOW TO THE FRONT YARD WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR THEIR DINNERS EVERY NIGHT OUTDOORS.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY, I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST IS THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO REVISE THE ORDINANCE AND THE COMPLAINT SYSTEM.

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MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN FILING COMPLAINTS IN THE CITY AND CAUSING A LOT OF HEADACHE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN NORTH REDONDO.

AND SECOND YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BALANCE SAFETY AND PRIVACY FOR THE CITY.

SO THE ORDINANCE HAD BEEN IN PLACE FOR 50 YEARS, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THANK YOU. MAYOR LIGHT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OBAGI AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT FOR, BEHRENDT FOR ENGAGING ON THESE ISSUES WITH THE RESIDENTS.

THE SECOND THING THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IS IF THE COUNCIL COULD ADVOCATE FOR A TEMPORARY PAUSE IN ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS UNTIL THERE'S BEEN PROPERLY BEEN ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF THE IRREVERSIBILITY OF THE COMPLIANCE THAT WE'VE SEEN.

SO I TOOK THESE PICTURES TODAY, AND THESE PICTURES ON THE LEFT COME FROM GOOGLE MAPS.

THESE ARE PICTURES FROM BEFORE OF WHAT THE HEDGES LOOK LIKE.

AND THE PICTURES ON THE RIGHT ARE ALL FROM COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ALL LOOK VERY BARREN, VERY, YOU KNOW, THIS TREE TRUNKS, TREE STUMPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR THE CITY.

AND IF THIS IS THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE WOULD WANT FOR THE CITY.

SO I JUST ASK THAT ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS BE PASSED UNTIL THE COUNCIL HAS, HAS TIME TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IF WE ARE FORCED TO COMPLY THEN THE EFFECTS ARE IRREVERSIBLE FOR THESE MATURE LANDSCAPING.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. TONY TRUTANICH. AND THEN MAXIMILIAN HAUENSTEIN.

LOOKS LIKE. SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED THAT. HELLO? MAYOR LIGHT CITY COUNCIL. TONY TRUTANICH, TONY'S ON THE PIER.

I HAVE TWO HIGH SCHOOL BOYS AT PALOS VERDES HIGH SCHOOL.

ONE THING THEY DON'T TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL IS HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS. SO A COUPLE SUMMERS AGO, THREE SUMMERS AGO, I SAID, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO START A BUSINESS FROM CONCEPTION TO MARKETPLACE AND HOW TO DO BANK ACCOUNT, ALL THAT STUFF. THEY DECIDED PRESSURE WASHING.

THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD PROJECT. THE COMPANY TOOK OFF.

NOW WE DO, YOU KNOW, 800,000 SQUARE FOOT HOSPITALS FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

WE'RE USING OUR PRESSURE WASHING DRONES TO WASH THE SPACE SHUTTLE ENDEAVOR UP AT THE CALIFORNIA SCIENCE MUSEUM.

LONG STORY SHORT, WE HAVE AN OFFICE SPACE UP ON THE VILLAGE TOP, AND IT IS SO DIRTY.

AND I WENT TO THE LANDLORDS. I SAID, LOOK, FOR FREE, WE'LL WASH EVERYTHING HERE, BECAUSE I SEE THEM WALKING PEOPLE AROUND TO TRY TO LEASE THE SPACES. BUT WHO'S GOING TO LEASE A SPACE WHEN LITERALLY YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE WINDOW BECAUSE THE DIRT, IT'S HORRIBLE. AND SO I SUGGESTED IT TO THE LANDLORDS AND I GOT A LETTER THE NEXT DAY CERTIFIED SAYING, DO NOT EVEN THINK OF ATTEMPTING TO REMOVE THE DIRT OFF THESE BUILDINGS IF YOU DO.

I THINK THE PENALTY WAS DEATH MAYBE, OR STONING IN THE VILLAGE.

BUT AND AS I WAS READING IT, I LOOKED ACROSS AND THEY WERE GIVING OUT BUCKETS TO THESE KIDS WITH SOAP AND WATER AND THEY WERE WASHING DOWN.

I WAS REALLY CONFUSED. BUT IT'S NO FAULT OF THE CITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO GET THE ALGAE OFF THESE BUILDINGS.

WALK DOWN THE PIER, THERE'S ALGAE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ALL THESE BUILDINGS. AND I'M, I'M LITERALLY VOLUNTEERING ABOUT 60 TO $80,000 OF FREE PRESSURE WASHING, SOFT WASHING, WHATEVER, TO REMOVE ALL THE DIRT AND MAKE ALL THE BUILDINGS ON THE PIER, THE VILLAGE, LOOK NEW AGAIN. SO I'M HERE TO SOMEHOW MAYBE OPEN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF ACCEPTING MY OFFER TO DO THIS. WE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY POSTS ON WHAT'S THAT APP, NEXT DOOR? THIS BUS STOP IS HORRIBLE. WE'RE THE GUYS THAT SHOW UP AT TWO IN THE MORNING AND CLEAN IT.

WE WE CLEANED THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY. THE ONLY PERSON THAT KNEW THAT WE DID THAT WAS MAYOR BRAND.

AND THAT WAS OVER THREE NIGHTS BECAUSE IT WAS BEING COVERED IN JUST BLACK.

AND IT'S ONE OF OUR OLDEST BUILDINGS. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY I'M KIND OF A HISTORIAN IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, ONE OF MANY. AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO NOTHING IN THE BUDGET TO CLEAN THE BUILDING.

SO WE WENT FROM 1 TO 4 A.M. OVER THREE NIGHTS AND WE COMPLETELY CLEANED IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I'M OFFERING THESE FREE SERVICES TO BEAUTIFY THE PIER AND THE VILLAGE.

AND THEY SAID THERE'S NO PLANS ON CLEANING IT.

SO SOMEHOW MAYBE WE COULD GET THESE, THIS OFFER ACCEPTED SOMEHOW.

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THANK YOU. NO CLAPPING IF YOU AGREE WITH SOMETHING, DO THIS.

YEAH. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THUMBS DOWN. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MAXIMILIAN. HI. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE TO SHOW YOU GUYS.

OUR PROPOSAL. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTS.

SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MAX, AND THIS IS MY PARTNER, SALEEM.

I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO SPREAD AWARENESS ABOUT OUR THE POLLUTION IN OUR BEACH AND OCEAN COMMUNITIES THROUGH AN ART PROJECT.

SO THIS ART PROJECT WOULD BE A MOSAIC CREATED FROM SANITIZED TRASH AND LITTER FROM OUR, FROM, IN AND AROUND THE REDONDO BEACH. WE'VE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH THE KEEP THE ESPLANADE BEAUTIFUL, THE NONPROFIT FOR FUNDING AND SUPPORT, AS WELL AS THE REDONDO UNION ART TEACHER, MISS GUZMAN, AND HER STUDENTS OR NEXT YEAR'S STUDENTS TO ACTUALLY CREATE THIS PROJECT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A, A FLAT AREA, PERHAPS LIKE A WALL OR SOME SORT WHERE WE CAN PUT THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE VERY FLEXIBLE. THIS IS JUST A ROUGH DRAFT OF TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FLAT AREA WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.

PUT IT UP. AND OUR GOAL IS TO SPREAD AWARENESS AND BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONTACT INFORMATION.

OH, CONTACT. YEAH. COULD YOU JUST WRITE IT ON HERE? YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. AFTER THAT, JIM MUELLER AND THEN DANIELLA WODNICKI.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL JIM MUELLER, DISTRICT FIVE.

THE EXPERIENCE OF THE NRB FARMERS MARKET CONFIRMS WHAT RESIDENTS OF NORTH REDONDO KEEP SAYING.

THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE ON FOOT AROUND ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND HAVE ACTIVITIES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THEY CAN WALK TO.

IN THE ERA OF TIGHT BUDGETS, HIRING FREEZES, RESERVE DRAWDOWNS, THE FARMER'S MARKET SHOWS THAT WHEN YOU ATTRACT A CROWD OF NORTH REDONDO, THEY WILL SPEND. THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY HAS GOTTEN MORE PROGRAM SIGNUPS SINCE THE MARKET BEGAN.

THIS CONFIRMS WHAT I'VE TOLD THE COUNCIL BEFORE.

A CROWD GATHERING FOR AN EVENT BOOSTS THE ENTERPRISES AROUND IT.

NRBBA'S DINE AROUND IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN EVENT THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE ON FOOT INTO THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

IT HAPPENS ONLY ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, BUT CREATING OTHER CROWD ATTRACTING EVENTS COULD INCREASE TOTAL COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY MORE SIGNIFICANTLY.

GEORGETTE GANTNER WANTS TO ORGANIZE ART EVENTS IN THE ARTESIA AREA.

SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER OF A CHRONICALLY VACANT PROPERTY TO USE FOR AN EVENT THE CITY COULD HELP HER ACTIVITIES ATTRACTING.

CROWDS HAVE WORKED TO ENHANCE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN OTHER CITIES, AND ACADEMIC STUDIES HAVE CONFIRMED WHEN PEOPLE FEEL SAFE TO GATHER, THEY BOOST SALES OF GOODS AND SERVICES ALL AROUND, AND THE RESULT IS MORE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT ATTEMPTS ON ARTESIA HAVE GOTTEN STALLED AND DUE TO FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES, AS THEY SAY, HOW LONG CAN THE CITY WAIT FOR THESE PROJECTS TO BECOME VIABLE ENOUGH TO GET OFF THE DRAWING BOARD AND CONTRIBUTE TO CITY REVENUE? IT'S BECOMING MORE APPARENT THAT THE CITY HAS TO GET MORE LOCAL AND MORE CREATIVE TO REALIZE THE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL THAT EXISTS IN THE ARTESIA NEIGHBORHOOD OF REDONDO BEACH. HERE ARE A FEW IDEAS. PAST FAR RESTRICTIONS RESULTED IN LARGER PARKING LOTS, MANY OF WHICH ARE RARELY FILLED.

WHY NOT USE THE SPACE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR EVENTS THAT ATTRACT CROWDS INTO A BUSINESS AREA? VACANT STORES OR BUILDINGS HAVE POTENTIAL TOO.

I SUGGEST THE CITY FOCUS A THREE PART STRATEGY ON ARTESIA CORRIDOR.

SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC, TURN UNUSED SPACE INTO PUBLIC SPACES, AND ENCOURAGE MORE ACTIVITIES AROUND COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

THOSE THREE ELEMENTS HAVE WORKED IN OTHER CITIES.

THEY CAN WORK IN REDONDO BEACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DANIELLA WITNEKKE, AND THEN GEORGETTE GANTNER.

AND THAT'S THE LAST WRITTEN REQUEST I HAVE. HI.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. DANIELLA WITNEKKE, LONGTIME DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENT.

I'M HERE REGARDING THE CITY'S RECENT ENFORCEMENT OF THE HEDGE REQUIREMENT THAT HAS AFFECTED DOZENS OF MY NEIGHBORS IN NORTH REDONDO.

TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF US ARE ARGUING AGAINST MAINTAINING OUR YARDS.

THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT THE CITY'S CURRENT INTERPRETATION IS FORCING RESIDENTS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN LEGAL ACTION OR PERMANENTLY DAMAGING HEALTHY TREES ON

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MY OWN PROPERTY, I HAVE THREE INCREDIBLY SMALL, DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES ABOUT TWO FEET WIDE EACH THAT SUPPORT LOCAL POLLINATORS. TO CREATE THE REQUIRED SEPARATION I WAS CITED FOR, I HAVE EFFECTIVELY BEEN INSTRUCTED TO CUT THEM IN HALF.

ANY CERTIFIED ARBORIST WOULD TELL YOU THAT TOPPING LINE TAILING OR EXCESSIVE PRUNING CAN PERMANENTLY DAMAGE OR KILL TREES.

REDONDO BEACH PRIDES ITSELF AS A TREE CITY AND HAS ADOPTED PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE CARE OF ITS PUBLIC TREES.

THE CITY CAN IMPOSE SUBSTANTIAL PENALTIES UPWARDS OF $15,000, FOR DAMAGING PUBLIC TREES BECAUSE THEY ARE RECOGNIZED AS A VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSET, YET RESIDENTS ARE NOW BEING DIRECTED TO PERFORM THE VERY TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT THOSE STANDARDS DISCOURAGE.

WHY IS THE CITY FORCING US TO DO TO OUR TREES WHAT YOU WOULD PENALIZE US FOR DOING TO PUBLIC ONES.

WE ARE ACTIVELY LOSING SHADE, HABITAT, POLLINATOR RESOURCES AND TREE CANOPY WHILE SPENDING EXCESSIVE STAFF TIME ENFORCING A POLICY THAT MAY BE UNDERMINING THE CITY'S OWN ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO PAUSE THIS ENFORCEMENT UNTIL STAFF DEVELOPS A POLICY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH ACCEPTED ARBORICULTURAL PRACTICES.

THE STATE URBAN FORESTER, WALTER PASSMORE, HAS ALREADY OFFERED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE CITY AT NO COST, AND I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION WITH ALL OF YOU TONIGHT.

I ALSO ASK THAT THE CITY ESTABLISH A FORMAL APPEAL PROCESS TO RESIDENTS SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHALLENGE CITATIONS BEFORE BEING FORCED TO ALTER OR REMOVE HEALTHY TREES.

AND FINALLY, WHEN RESIDENTS ARE FACING THREATS OF ENFORCEMENT AND LEGAL ACTION, THEY DESERVE ACCURATE INFORMATION.

COMPLIANCE DECISIONS SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND AND NOT ON AI GENERATED RENDERINGS THAT DON'T MATCH REALITY.

THIS IS A SOLVABLE PROBLEM. WE CAN PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT DESTROYING OUR TREES AND OUR URBAN TREE CANOPY.

I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PAUSE ENFORCEMENT AND REVISIT THIS POLICY BEFORE MORE MATURE TREES ARE LOST.

I THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING WITH US ON THIS ISSUE, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. GEORGETTE GANTNER. AND THEN THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE.

GOOD EVENING. GEORGETTE GANTNER DISTRICT TWO.

CAN I HAVE PERMISSION TO CALL FOR A. I ONLY HAVE ONE COPY.

I'LL. I'LL EMAIL IT TO HIM TOMORROW. LAST WEEK I OBSERVED THE REDONDO BEACH WYLAND WHILE I WAS WALKING MY WONDERFUL GRANDDAUGHTER, AND I NOTICED THAT THE CONDITION IS HORRIBLY NEGLECTED.

CONSIDERING THE PROBLEMS BETWEEN AES AND THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THE SEA LAB MURALS WERE PAINTED OVER, I BECAME WORRIED THAT IT COULD HAPPEN. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

I DISCOVERED THAT PUBLIC ART IS PROTECTED THROUGH THE VISUAL ARTS RIGHTS ACT OF 1990.

IN 1991, WYLAND CREATED OUR OWN WHALING WALL, ONE OF HIS 100 PROJECTS THAT HE PLANNED TO COMPLETE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THAT DEPICTED ANIMALS LISTED ON THE IUCN RED LIST OF THREATENED SPECIES, WITH OR WITHOUT A CONTRACT BETWEEN HE AND THE CITY, THIS ART IS PROTECTED, CANNOT BE PAINTED OVER OR DESTROYED IN ANY WAY WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE ARTIST.

AND THE REASON I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, MY SON TOLD ME THAT CURRENTLY IN DALLAS, TEXAS, WYLAND'S 82ND WAILING WALL WAS PAINTED OVER TO DISPLAY AN AD FOR THE FIFA WORLD CUP WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION.

HE SAID, AND I QUOTE, THEY LIED WITH A CAPITAL L ABOUT OBTAINING HIS PERMISSION.

HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THEY PICKED THE WRONG ARTIST.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I'M GOING TO GO AFTER THEM AND GO AFTER THEM HARD.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE COMMUNITY OF DALLAS TO STAY WITH ME.

WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THE OTHER ART IN DALLAS.

AND HE ALSO SAID IF THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT, THEY CAN.

ALL THE PUBLIC ART IN DALLAS AND THE PUBLIC ART IN AMERICA IS AT RISK.

IN THE PAST, OTHER ARTISTS HAVE SUED AND WON IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION FOR 1.1 MILLION AND 6.7 MILLION.

THIS INFO IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE PACKET THAT I DISTRIBUTED TO YOU.

SO TONIGHT, TWO POINTS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT THREATENED, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THE WALL IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE. AND HOPEFULLY NONE OF THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CURRENT OWNERS.

WE DON'T NEED MORE LAWSUITS, AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS ICONIC PIECE OF PUBLIC ART.

ALSO, THE SECOND POINT IS PERHAPS WYLAND SHOULD BE CONTACTED TO SEE, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE MIGHT OBTAIN AN ESTIMATE FOR HIM RESTORING THE WALL

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COMPLETELY. 16 YEARS AGO HE CAME AND DID SOME WORK, WHICH WAS AN IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH.

AND 16 YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND WITH SEA AIR, IT'S VERY DESTRUCTIVE.

SO THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT MAYBE THAT BUILDING AT SOME POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT HOUSES NOW, BUT IT COULD BECOME A PARKING LOT, A PUBLIC PARKING LOT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THAT BUILDING SHOULD STAY TO KEEP THE ART.

AND IT COULD ACT AS ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE CITY THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED AND ESPECIALLY DURING BEACH LIFE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THAT WAS THE LAST CARD I HAVE. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA? JUST COME ON UP AND. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THANK YOU TO JIM MUELLER. THE BIGGEST PROPONENT OF NORTH REDONDO REMINDED ME THAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT DINE AROUND ARTESIA COMING UP JULY 20TH AND JULY 29TH AND AUGUST 20TH.

AND IT IS THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WE HAVE IN NORTH REDONDO.

IT PUTS PEOPLE RIGHT INTO THE BUSINESSES, AND IT DRIVES TONS OF TRAFFIC ON THOSE TWO NIGHTS.

IT'S A SELLOUT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IT STARTED IN 2011 BY CLARK ADAMS, WHO OWNED CLARK ADAMS WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND IT WENT ON HIATUS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND WE BROUGHT IT BACK THREE YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S PHENOMENAL. AND EVERY YEAR WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE WHO SAY, YOU KNOW, I NEVER WENT INTO THAT RESTAURANT, AND NOW I GO IN THERE ALL THE TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, TOMORROW THERE'S A DINE AROUND RIVIERA VILLAGE, WHICH IS ALSO A SELLOUT. SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PUT PEOPLE INSIDE OUR BUSINESSES AND NRBBA IS REALLY PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COME ON UP. HI, MY NAME IS HEIDI MANIACI AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ATHENS TRASH INCREASE. THERE IS SOME CONFUSION.

WHO ACTUALLY HAS SET THE PRICING? ATHENS IS BLAMING YOU GUYS.

AN EX COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS THAT YOU GUYS DO NOT SET THE PRICING.

SO IF YOU DON'T SET THE PRICING, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT ATHENS IS THROWING YOU UNDER THE BUS.

AND DID YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU APPROVED THIS NEW PRICE STRUCTURE THAT MULTI-UNIT COMPLEXES THAT THEIR RATES WOULD DOUBLE WITH VERY LITTLE NOTICE? YOU'RE TALKING 30 DAYS NOTICE FOR DOUBLING THE RATES.

OUR COMPLEX IS GOING FROM $751 A MONTH TO $1,548.

THAT'S OVER 100% INCREASE. I HAVE ONE LADY I PUT A THREAD ON NEXT DOOR.

MR. WALLER CAN SHOW YOU THE THREAD BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ON IT.

ONE LADY, HERS WENT FROM $231 A MONTH TO 931.

THAT'S FOUR TIMES THAT IS THAT THAT IS JUST UNDOABLE.

WE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH HAS ALREADY BEEN SEPARATING THEIR TRASH, THEIR RECYCLABLES, AND THEIR GREEN WASTE. IF YOU GO DOWN THE STREET ON TRASH COLLECTION DAY, YOU ALREADY SEE THE THREE LITTLE BINS IN FRONT OF HOUSES.

YOU ALREADY SEE THAT IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.

THAT'S ALREADY THERE. WHAT IS ATHENS DOING FROM JUNE TO JULY? THAT WOULD REQUIRE TWO TIMES AND MORE WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY CHARGING.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME SOME QUESTION DO WE EVEN NEED A RECYCLING BIN? IF ATHENS IS SEPARATING EVERYTHING ALREADY, THEN DO WE NEED A BIN? AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT IN THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE WITH ATHENS, THERE SHOULD BE A CLAUSE THAT THEY CAN ONLY RAISE THE RATES A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE PER YEAR. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CLAUSE THAT IS NEGLIGENT ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO WE WOULD SUGGEST AND REQUEST THAT YOU RELOOK AT THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE ATHENS, THEIR THEIR RESPONSE IS THAT WE SHOULD REDUCE OUR TRASH.

NOW, HOW DO YOU TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE TO REDUCE THE TRASH? THAT'S JUST NOT. THAT'S JUST TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

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THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? YES, I HAVE MARK NELSON.

GO AHEAD. MARK. HEY. OKAY. FIRST OFF, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT NO ONE ON THE THE COUNCIL BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WE THREW MORE MONEY AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT'S $820,000 PER UNIT. THE TYPICAL COST OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN THE REAL WORLD IS MAYBE 400 TO 500 K WITHOUT LAND. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S LAND AND IN THAT, SO I, I JUST I THINK THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE GIVING ANY MORE MONEY OUT OF THAT FUND TO PROJECTS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND FIGURE OUT WHY THE COST IS TWICE THE NORM. YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT NOBODY DID THE MATH QUICKLY.

AS FAR AS THE TRASH THING GOES THAT I JUST HEARD, I COMMENTED WHEN I WAS THERE THAT I DON'T THINK YOU EVEN DID A PROP 218 QUALIFYING STUDY.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW YOU ARRIVED AT WHAT YOU ARRIVED AT.

I'VE DONE PROP 218 ALONG THE WAY IN MY CAREER AND THIS JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO TO MEET THE BURDEN.

SO REGARDING THE ALLCOVE BUILDING, YOU'VE GOTTEN THIS IN WRITING, IT'S A 9000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT PSYCHIATRIC BUILDING OR PSYCHOLOGY. PSYCHOLOGY.

IT REQUIRES 30 PARKING PLACES. IT HAS EIGHT. AND THERE IS JUST NO WAY THAT ANYBODY CAN JUSTIFY MAKING PEOPLE WALK 2000FT FROM THE ALLCOVE BUILDING TO 514 FOR THE REST OF THE PARKING PLACES.

THAT'S A LONG WAY. IT'S AS I SAID, IT'S ALMOST HALF A MILE ON FOOT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT SOMETHING WENT WILDLY WRONG IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS BY THE CITY.

FURTHERMORE, BEACH CITIES IS GOT SIGNS UP ALL OVER INTERNALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE REMODELING TWO FLOORS OF 510 SAYING NO TRUCK PARKING.

SO INSTEAD WE'VE GOT TRUCKS PARKED ON PROSPECT BLOCKING A NORTHBOUND LANE, FREQUENTLY SEMIS.

AND AS THOUGH THAT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, SCREWING UP TRAFFIC.

THEY'RE ALSO IN FRONT OF AN ADA COMPLIANT BUS STOP.

AND SO I SEE PEOPLE WITH WALKERS AND, AND CANES, THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH A NORTHBOUND BUS, BUT THERE'S A SEMI TRAILER PARKED IN FRONT OF THEM.

I SENT YOU PHOTOS. SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET SOME ENFORCEMENT I THINK ON, ON THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BABYSIT BEACH CITIES.

THEY DID CONSTRUCTION STARTING AT 10 P.M. ON A SATURDAY NIGHT AND AT 1 A.M.

YOUR TIME IS UP, MARK. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE THREE MORE.

THAT'S IT. WE'RE OVER 30 MINUTES, SO I AGREE.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THE NEXT ITEM IS K EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. WE DO HAVE TWO HEARINGS TONIGHT.

[K. EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS]

L.1 AND L.2. SO I WILL PULL THE COUNCIL ON WHO YOU'VE TALKED TO ON EACH OF THOSE.

AND I WILL SAY ON BOTH OF THOSE I HAVE JUST I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

YES. MAYOR. ON L.1 CITY STAFF AND I DO NOT BELIEVE I'VE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL CONTACT REGARDING THE CONTENT OF L.1, EXCEPT WITH YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

AND FOR L.2 THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. FOR L.1 I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ANYONE ON THIS MATTER.

FOR L.2, MAYOR STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. FOR L.1 JUST THE CITY STAFF AND THEN L.2 WOULD BE COUNT, OR THE MAYOR STAFF AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

FOR L.1 STAFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. FOR L.2 STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. SO NOW WE WILL GO DOWN TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[L. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

THE FIRST IS L.1 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR THE STREET LIGHT LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND 27. COULD I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN WITH THE 4 TO 0 VOTE WITH ONE MEMBER ABSENT.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO. I GUESS, LAUREN, YOU'RE GOING TO.

YES. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

LAUREN SABLAN, CITY ENGINEER. THIS ITEM IS REGARDING THE STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT ASSESSMENT DISTRICT.

THIS PROGRAM MAINTAINS THE STREET LIGHT SIGNALS AND LANDSCAPE MEDIANS.

IT IS. IT COSTS APPROXIMATELY $2.7 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE ONLY.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE UPGRADES OR PROJECTS AT ALL.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE HOW IT'S FUNDED, A PORTION OF THIS IS PAID FOR THE ASSESSMENT BY THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE COLLECTED THROUGH OUR PROPERTY TAX BILLS AND PAID FOR BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THAT THAT'S A TOTAL OF $1.5 MILLION THAT'S COLLECTED.

THE REMAINING $1.2 MILLION IS TYPICALLY FUNDED BY OUR GENERAL FUND.

IN ORDER TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DIRECT STAFF TO INCREASE THIS ASSESSMENT FEE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A PROP 218 PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES PREPARING AN ENGINEER'S REPORT TO DETERMINE THE NEW ASSESSMENT FEE.

IT ALSO WOULD REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO VOTE BY MAJORITY.

IT WOULD ALSO TYPICALLY TAKE ABOUT 12 MONTHS OR SO AND ABOUT $250,000 FOR THE REPORT AND BALLOT SERVICES, WHICH WOULD BE DONE BY A CONSULTANT. CAN I ASK A VERY QUICK QUESTION? ON ITEM TWO, PROPERTY OWNER APPROVAL BY A MAJORITY OF VOTES OR BY A MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS? BY VOTE. YEAH. VOTING PROPERTY OWNERS. VOTING PROPERTY OWNERS.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. YES.

AND THIS IS AN APPROVAL VOTE, NOT A PROTEST VOTE.

RIGHT. SO, BUT TONIGHT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN TAKING TESTIMONY, DELIBERATING AND THEN CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO CONFIRM THE DIAGRAM ASSESSMENT REPORT, THE 11 LEVYING OF THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2026 2027, WHICH WOULD BE THAT $1.5 MILLION. AND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GOOD OVERVIEW. APPRECIATE IT.

ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION.

STOP. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL TAKE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.

ITEM L.1. OKAY. NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE AND THERE. ANY ECOMMENTS.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY ANY ECOMMENTS.

EXCUSE ME. OKAY, WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED ON A FOUR ZERO VOTE WITH ONE ABSENT.

OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE DIAGRAM ASSESSMENT AND GO BACK TO THE LAST PAGE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GIVE YOU MY PROPER MOTION.

THERE YOU GO. AND LEVYING OF THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE STREET LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING DISTRICT. LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026-27.

AND THAT'S RESOLUTION CC-2606-035. YES. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY LAST COMMENTS BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE? OKAY.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT.

WE ASK FOR TESTIMONY, RIGHT? YES. SORRY, I HAD.

YOU WERE OUT. OKAY. YES. I HAVE TO READ ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY.

RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2606-035 A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, CONFIRMING THAT DIAGRAM AND ASSESSMENT AND LEVYING OF THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE STREET LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1ST, 2026 TO JUNE 30TH, 2027. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM L.2.

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THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, THE FIRST OF SEVERAL TO CONSIDER THE FISCAL YEAR 2026-27 PROPOSED BUDGET AND 2027 TO 2031 5 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARING? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

WHO'S GOING TO BRIEF? I WILL HANDLE THIS ONE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. WE'RE, I THINK, FIRING UP OUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

OH. EXCUSE ME. HOLD ON. OH, SORRY. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO BEGIN OUR FORMAL HEARING PROCESS FOR THE 26-27 PROPOSED BUDGET.

TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION REALLY FOCUS ON FOCUSES ON THE OPERATING SIDE OF OF THE, THE BUDGET.

WHILE YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED FIVE YEAR CIP, WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO SAVE THOSE FOR NEXT WEEK'S HEARING ON THE NIGHT.

SO TONIGHT IS AN OPERATIONS FOCUS AS WE TEND TO DO WITH OUR CALENDARING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. STEPHANIE. SO A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR DECISION PACKAGE HIGHLIGHTS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE 18 BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS OF THE 46 THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.

YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER TIER DEPOSITED NEXT WEEK AS PART OF THE HEARING PACKET.

AND THEN ANY RESIDUAL BRR'S COME TO YOU AS PART OF THE JUNE 16TH FINAL AGENDA PACKET FOR OUR BUDGET.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REMAINING DATES ON THE CALENDAR AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING. SO JUST A REMINDER, AND YOU SAW THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU RECEIVED AND FILED THE BUDGET.

WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WITH A LITTLE UNDER $1.4 MILLION SET ASIDE AT MID-YEAR TO HELP BALANCE THIS YEAR'S OPERATIONAL COSTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE AS YOU LOOK AT OUR STRUCTURAL OR CORE BEGINNING REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BEFORE DECISION PACKAGES, WE HAVE A ABOUT A $2.5 MILLION SHORTFALL. OUR DECISION PACKAGES CLOSE THAT GAP BY $1.7 MILLION IN THE POSITIVE.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT SORT OF OUR TWO FINAL ACTIONS, THERE ARE UNFUNDED ACCRUED LIABILITY PAYMENT FOR THE 26-27 FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS KNOWN TO US. AND THEN OUR PARTICULAR DECISION PACKAGE, WHICH FOCUSES ON WHAT WE'RE CALLING A FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE, WE ACHIEVE BALANCE IN THE BUDGET. THOSE, THOSE TWO ACTIONS HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT OF ABOUT $550,000.

THE STRUCTURAL ONGOING REVENUES VERSUS EXPENDITURES AT 830, BALANCED AGAINST OUR STARTING POSITION OF JUST UNDER 1.4 MILLION.

THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO ZERO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AS I MENTIONED, THE DECISION PACKAGES ARE A NET POSITIVE TO US.

THEY FOCUS PRIMARILY ON REVENUES. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES WE DO HAVE SOME ONE TIME EXPENDITURES THAT AFFECT OUR PRO FORMA. AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT PROPOSED VACANCY IS EFFECTIVELY THAT FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE THAT IS TARGETING $2.9 MILLION IN PERSONNEL SAVINGS OVER THE COURSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR. NEXT SLIDE. GETTING TO THE HIGHLIGHTS, AND THIS ISN'T ALL OF THEM.

I THINK WE HAVE 32 IN TOTAL. WE'RE GOING TO COVER JUST SOME OF THE PARTICULAR ITEMS TONIGHT.

OF COURSE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET BOOK, ANY OF THE OTHER DECISION PACKAGES, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD TEAM IS HERE THIS EVENING AND PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE LIMITED TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY, TO DISCUSSING THESE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT.

ONE OF THE BIG ONES GOING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS THE REITERATION OF AN ACTION WE TOOK LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS TO INCREASE OUR HOURLY PARKING METER RATE FROM $2 AN HOUR TO 2.25 AN HOUR.

THAT GENERATES FOR US SIGNIFICANT ONGOING GENERAL FUND REVENUE, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL INCREASES IN OUR HARBOR UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS FUNDS DUE TO OUR PIER PARKING STRUCTURES AND OUR OUR VARIOUS PARKING LOTS IN THAT AREA.

WE'VE GOT A NEW CONCEPT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, A SPECIAL EVENT STREET USE FEE.

THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE SOME CONVERSATION. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HEARING FROM SOME OF OUR SPECIAL EVENT OPERATORS. THIS IS A STANDARD IN MANY CITIES.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE FEE AT $8,000 PER MILE.

OUR INTENTION WITH THAT FEE IS FOR IT TO BE ALLOCATED ON A PRO RATA BASIS.

IF SOMEBODY IS USING A 10TH OF A MILE, THEY WOULDN'T BE CHARGED $8,000.

THEY'D BE CHARGED $800 AS AN EXAMPLE. IT'S ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE IMPACT, NOT NECESSARILY THE OVERALL CONSTRUCT OF THE EVENT. IF IT'S A RACE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IF IT'S A FIVE, FIVE K RACE, BUT THE RACE COURSE IS,

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IS OCCURRING OVER TWO MILES THEN THAT FEE WOULD BE ASSIGNED BASED ON THAT, THAT MILEAGE.

AND WHILE WE EXPECT SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT GENERAL FUND REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FEE, THERE IS SOME ANTICIPATED COSTING BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS SPECIAL EVENT HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CALCULATION.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEE INCREASE IS, IS A FOLLOW ON TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AS MARC, OUR DIRECTOR PRESENTED OUR FEE STUDY RESULTS.

THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. THE EVALUATION OF OUR VARIOUS BUILDING AND PLANNING FEES THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT, THAT ANALYSIS IS TO ADJUST MANY OF THOSE FEES.

WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS DECISION PACKAGE MIRRORS THE DIRECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL AT THAT MARCH MEETING AND IS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION A YEAR IN GENERAL FUND REVENUE. GETTING INTO SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES, THE DECISION PACKAGE NUMBER 20, WHICH REALLY FOCUSES ON POLICE TECHNOLOGY, IS REALLY AIMING TO, TO DO TWO THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL.

ONE, FUND, FULLY FUND OUR FIRST RESPONDER DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM, OUR CONTRACT WITH AERODOME.

THE CAPACITY OF THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE IS EXPANDED OF LATE, AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEEDED TO COVER THAT CONTRACTUAL COST.

THAT HAS BEEN A VERY EFFECTIVE PROGRAM. THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF STATS ASSOCIATED WITH ITS EFFICACY, AND STEVE, CHIEF SPRENGEL CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL.

IF IF YOU ARE ALL CURIOUS ON THAT, THERE IS A BUDGET RESPONSE REPORT THAT TOUCHES ON THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

AND THEN THERE IS SOME REQUESTED FUNDING FOR ONE TIME TRAINING IN THE DEPARTMENT TO FURTHER ENHANCE OUR RESPONSE CAPABILITIES.

ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S COME UP THAT'S CRITICAL IS OUR FIRE COACHING AND WELLNESS ACTIVITIES IN THE, IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SHARP PERFORMANCE.

THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO OUR EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE. THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUESTED FOR THAT ONGOING ACTIVITY.

AND THEN A BIG CHANGE TO OUR OVERALL SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAM WITH OUR BUILDING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, IN PARTICULAR, OUR BUILDING ACTIVITIES IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE TURNAROUND TIMES FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS.

AND YOU'VE HEARD ME REPORT, MARC REPORT ON A, ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS THIS STRUCTURE TO BRING IN SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACT SERVICE TO HELP US GENERATE ADDITIONAL PLAN CHECK AND MORE ACCELERATED PLAN CHECK REVIEW HAS BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL.

AND WHAT THIS DECISION PACKAGE DOES IS MEMORIALIZE OUR ANTICIPATED REVENUES AND EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTINUATION OF THAT PROGRAM NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH AS MARC HAS REPORTED, AND I THINK MAYBE EVEN HAS IMPROVED FURTHER UPON, WE'VE TAKEN WHAT HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY 6 TO 8 WEEK PLAN CHECK TURNAROUNDS AND, AND ARE NOW INSIDE OF A 10 TO 11 DAY WINDOW. SO WE ARE REALLY HELPING OUR, THE INVESTMENT OCCUR IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HELPING BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES IN REDONDO BEACH.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. A COUPLE OF CRITICAL DPS THAT I'VE RECEIVED QUESTIONS ON.

AND OF COURSE THE BIG ONE THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE.

THAT'S REALLY THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR BALANCING EFFORT THIS YEAR.

AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, LAST YEAR, AS WE LOOKED AT OUR STRUCTURAL REVENUES VERSUS ONGOING EXPENSES, WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE WOULD SEE A BIT OF A RECOVERY IN OUR TRAVEL AND TOURISM AREA, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR TOT TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUE, IN PARTICULAR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND THEREFORE RELIED ON ONE TIME THE USE OF ONE TIME RESERVE FUNDS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

I THINK WE SPENT $3.5 MILLION OUT OF THE RESERVE LAST YEAR.

RATHER THAN DRAW FROM THAT WELL, AGAIN, IN RECOGNITION THAT WHILE WE HAVE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT IN OVERALL STRUCTURE, WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING FROM THOSE FUNDS AGAIN.

AND REALLY THE FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE, WHICH, AS I SAID EARLIER, SHOULD SAVE US ABOUT $2.9 MILLION, IS IS REALLY THE IN LIEU ACTIVITY THERE AS A AS A MEANS TO AVOID DRAWING DOWN ON THAT THAT RESERVE FUND.

AND THEN LASTLY, AN ITEM THAT CREATES SOME GENERAL FUND SAVINGS FOR US AND I THINK WILL CREATE SOME OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF OUR PRIORITIZATION IN THE IN THE WATERFRONT AREA AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR IS CURRENTLY PERFORMING, WE WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A VACANT DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION AND IN EFFECT, COMBINING THAT DIRECTOR ROLE FOR THE TIME BEING TO SUPERVISE THE TWO DEPARTMENTS AS STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S WHAT DECISION PACKAGE 30 DOES.

IT EFFECTIVELY CREATES A BIT OF A SUPER DEPARTMENT HEAD, IF YOU WILL, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPERVISING THE WATERFRONT OPERATIONS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN HELP SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.

CURRENTLY THAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT ON THIS, AND I'VE I'VE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR A FEW DIFFERENT FOLKS.

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OUR OUR HARBOR COMMISSIONERS, AS AN EXAMPLE, IS IT'S NOT MEANT TO, IN A SENSE, ASSIMILATE THE WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT INTO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. IT'S MEANT TO EFFECTIVELY MERGE THE DIRECTOR POSITION AND HAVE DUAL OVERSIGHT OVER THE TWO INDIVIDUAL FUNCTIONS.

WE ARE NOT INTENDING WITH THIS TO, IN A SENSE HAVE THE WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT GO AWAY AS A AS A SINGULAR STRUCTURE.

I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO THE COMMUNITY, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO OUR MARINE MARINE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR.

BUT THAT DOES HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SAVING US SOME MONEY AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED IT.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER UPSIDE TO THIS PARTICULAR DECISION PACKAGE.

AND I'M CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT IF YOU IF YOU HAVE THEM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT 46 REQUESTED BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY PREFER THAT WE NOT HAVE MANY MORE OF THOSE HERE AT WHAT IS REALLY A TWO WEEK COUNTDOWN TO US GETTING TO ADOPTION.

WE CAN PERHAPS HANDLE A FEW MORE, PERHAPS TWEAKS OF THE EXISTING ONES.

IF YOU HAVE SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF QUESTION THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO EXPLORE.

BUT PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD BE JUDICIOUS WITH ADDITIONAL REQUESTS, WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY TO COMPLETE THE BALANCE OF THE 46.

AS I SAID, 18 ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET GOING INTO THE WEEKEND.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THE BALANCE OF THEM INCLUDED IN NEXT WEEKEND'S PACKET.

THERE COULD BE A FEW THAT TRAIL INTO THAT FINAL WEEK AS I SAID.

REMAINING DATES. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF OUR THREE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT BEING THE OPERATIONS FOCUS NEXT TUESDAY BEING OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM BEING THE, THE CENTRAL POINT. MANY OF OUR BRR'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CIP WILL ALSO BE, OF COURSE, INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR NEXT WEEK.

ONE THING OF NOTE, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT DESCRIPTIONS IN OUR CURRENT CIP.

AS WE'VE GONE TO THIS NEW FORMAT, YOU WILL SEE AS PART OF NEXT WEEK AGENDA PACKET, SOME UPDATES TO THOSE DESCRIPTIONS.

SO A MORE ROBUST, THE MORE ROBUST SUMMARY OF EACH OF THE PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE OF, OF, OF IMPORT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL ALSO BE DOING NEXT TUESDAY IS, IS SEEKING YOUR INPUT ON WHAT ARE YOUR INDIVIDUAL, WHAT IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL PRIORITY PROJECT? THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE DEPLOYED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

I THINK THAT HAS SERVED US ALL WELL. YOU EACH GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US AS YOU GIVE DIRECTION, WHAT YOUR PRIMARY, WHAT OUR PRIMARY FOCUS SHOULD BE FROM EACH OF YOUR DISTRICT LENSES AS WELL AS THE MAYOR'S.

I HAVE A SENSE OF THAT. BUT YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH US PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY AFTER THAT PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.

SO THAT'LL BE PART OF NEXT WEEK'S DISCUSSION AS WELL.

AND THEN LASTLY, ON THE 16TH, OUR OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THE COUNCIL, IN A SENSE, RALLY AROUND A FINAL BUDGET MOTION THAT RESULTS IN BUDGET ADOPTION AND OF COURSE, APPROVAL OF OUR FIVE YEAR CIP, WHICH REALLY ONLY RESULTS IN ONE YEAR OF SPENDING.

THAT'S THE THING. WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN WHERE YOU APPROPRIATE ON AN ACTUALIZED BASIS.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME ACTIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF OUR MASTER FEE SCHEDULE UPDATE AND THE GANN LIMIT, WHICH ARE IS A PERFUNCTORY ACT UNDER GASB STANDARDS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE THE JUNE 16TH EVENING WILL ENTAIL, REALLY MOTION MAKING.

THE BUDGET FINANCE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY MET ONCE ON THE BUDGET, STEPHANIE AND I PRESENTED TO THEM LAST TUESDAY NIGHT DURING THE COUNCIL'S DARK NIGHT.

THEY ARE ON ON THE 11TH GOING TO BE MEETING AGAIN TO PROVIDE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

YOU'LL HAVE THOSE IN TIME FOR YOUR DELIBERATIONS ON THE 16TH.

AND HOPEFULLY IF THINGS GO SMOOTHLY, THAT'LL BE THE, THE END OF OUR 26-27 BUDGET REVIEW AND ADOPTION CYCLE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO REALLY WE'VE, YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED THE HEARING.

THE IDEA IS TO ASK Q AND A TONIGHT OF US, OF, OF STAFF, AS I SAID, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE HERE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS AGAIN, PLEASE BE JUDICIOUS IF YOU DO.

WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN. AND THEN CONCLUSION OF THE NIGHT WILL BE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NEXT TUESDAY.

AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATING BUDGET.

DO YOU WANT INPUTS TONIGHT ON THE DECISION PACKAGES AND THE BRR'S THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO DATE? YEAH. ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPERATING BUDGET, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED REVENUE ESTIMATES, IF YOU'VE GOT CURIOSITIES ABOUT ANY, ANY OF OUR OPERATIONAL STRUCTURES REALLY ANYTHING Q&A ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATIONS THIS EVENING, YOU CAN FOCUS ON DECISION PACKAGES. YOU CAN FOCUS ON CORE, WHATEVER YOUR INDIVIDUAL WISHES ARE.

WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT FOR THE PUBLIC. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I GUESS I'LL, I WILL START OUT. ON DECISION PACKAGE 30.

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YOU KNOW, YOU INDICATED THIS MAY BE TEMPORARY.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVING A DIRECTOR OVER BOTH COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE HARBOR.

I'M NOT AS SUPPORTIVE OF LOSING THE, THE MANPOWER IN OR HUMAN POWER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

IN THE WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, WE'RE FOCUSING A LOT ON THE HARBOR.

YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN THAT WE'RE WE, WE DON'T TREAT THE HARBOR AS AN ENTITY.

WE HAVE IT PARSED OUT BETWEEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

AND THIS JUST SEEMS AT FURTHER DILUTION TO ME.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF A SHORT TERM, PERHAPS YOU KNOW USING MR. BEGGS AS AS A SHORT TERM REPLACEMENT. BUT LONG TERM, I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK GOING THROUGH THERE, WE NEED TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A MORE ROBUST STAFFING TO HANDLE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HARBOR AND TO REALLY BE THE FOCUS FOR INTEGRATING ACROSS THE HARBOR.

YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T DISAGREE AT ALL WITH, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR STATED LONG TERM GOALS.

I THINK WE ALL SHARE THEM. I'D VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE US CONTINUE TO SUPPLEMENT OUR RESOURCE DOWN THERE.

WE ARE AS YOU KNOW, THE HARBOR UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS FUNDS ARE UNDER SOME LEVEL OF DISTRESS.

WE ARE PROPOSING, I THINK, A BUDGET THAT, AT LEAST IN THE CASE OF TIDELANDS, PROVIDE STRUCTURAL BALANCE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THE UPLANDS IS GETTING CLOSE, I THINK, WITH OUR DECISION PACKAGES AND SOME OF THE ACTIONS AND INVESTMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE MADE IN OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE COMING, WE WILL BE CLOSE TO BALANCE NEXT FISCAL YEAR ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS.

AS WE SEE SOME OF THOSE INVESTMENTS RETURN DIVIDEND, I DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD RESOURCE TO THE WATERFRONT UNIT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME PART TIME ASSISTANT STAFFING HELPING US IN THE WATERFRONT NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE ARE BRINGING OVER WITH THE MERGER PROSPECTIVELY AT LEAST A HALF TIME DIRECTOR TO HELP ADD RESOURCE.

SO BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, I THINK WE ARE AT WHAT I WOULD CALL FOUR, FOUR FULL TIME EQUIVALENT PERSONNEL.

BUT I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG TERM SUPPORT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO MONITOR AND, AND, AND LOOK FOR.

AND I'D BE SUPPORTIVE SO LONG AS IT'S CLEARLY STATED THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY REDUCTION OF THE, OF THE STAFFING CLEAR FOR ANY FUTURE COUNCIL TO REVIEW IT AND SAY, HEY, THIS WAS MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY DUE TO THE BUDGET CONSTRAINT.

AND I AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT PERSONALLY AS WELL.

OKAY. ON NUMBER 32 YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE.

MY QUESTION IS WHAT YOU KNOW. I KNOW IT WILL CHANGE THROUGH THE YEAR, BUT WHAT POSITIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE A LISTING OF WHAT POSITIONS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HIRING AGAINST. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW IN MAKING BUDGET DETERMINATIONS.

IN FACT, LATER, IF YOU GO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO FREEZE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

WELL, AND THAT'S HERE'S IN PART WHY. SO PUBLIC SAFETY WITH ITS WITH ITS HIRING PRACTICE AND, AND THE TIME IT TAKES TO BRING NEW RECRUITS IN, HAVE THEM CLEAR BACKGROUND, HAVE THEM GET THROUGH THE ACADEMY AND ACTUALLY HIT THE STREET, PASS OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. THERE'S NATURAL SAVINGS THROUGH THAT.

AND GIVEN OUR NUMBER OF VACANCIES, WE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT, EVEN IF TOMORROW WE ISSUED, SAY, SEVEN OFFERS. OR I FORGET WHAT WE HAVE EXACTLY VACANT RIGHT NOW, 5 OR 6 POSITIONS.

IF WE GOT OFFERS OUT TOMORROW, THE, THERE WOULD STILL BE.

WITH THAT LAG OPERATIONAL SAVINGS IN THAT DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT SORT OF GENERAL TIMELINE.

SO WILL, WILL WE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, PERHAPS HOLD OR DELAY SOME OF THOSE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, EVEN IN PUBLIC SAFETY? YES. IF WE THINK WE NEED THE RESOURCE AND THE SAVINGS.

YES. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT OUR NATURAL VACANCY, NATURAL ATTRITION OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, OUR NATURAL HIRING PRACTICES WILL LIKELY LEAD US TO ABOUT THE $2.9 MILLION SAVINGS.

WHAT STEPHANIE AND I INTEND TO DO IS ON A ON A MONTHLY BASIS, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, LOOK AT THE THE PROJECTION AND IF AND IF WE'RE SENSING THAT FOR SOME REASON WE ARE MORE WE ARE MORE OCCUPIED THAN WE TYPICALLY ARE.

WE MAY HAVE TO HOLD A LITTLE BIT FIRMER ON AUTHORIZING RECRUITMENTS.

IF WE NOTICE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, WE MIGHT RELAX THE REIN, SO TO SPEAK.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS DECISION PACKAGE IS, IS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING IT FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE.

YOU'RE AUTHORIZING US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MONITORING THAT NUMBER AND ACTING AGAINST THAT NUMBER AND BEING OPPORTUNISTIC WITH THOSE SAVINGS AS THEY ARISE.

SO IT COULD BE POSITIONS THAT WE, WE THAT ARE CURRENTLY FILLED, THAT COME OPEN FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW BECAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDES TO RETIRE OR SOMEBODY DECIDES

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TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL DECIDE, IS THAT IS THAT CRITICAL OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW, OR IS THAT SOMETHING PERHAPS WE'LL WE'LL HOLD ON TO ENSURE THAT WE SAVE THE MONEY THAT WE'VE.

WE'VE STIPULATED. AND IF AT MIDYEAR, FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE SHOWING AN UNUSUAL, LIKE I SAID, AN UNUSUAL OCCUPANCY. WE MAY HAVE TO PIVOT. WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO ENSURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT $2.9 MILLION IN SAVINGS.

SO CAN YOU PRODUCE BASED ON VACANCIES TODAY, WHICH ARE VACANT, WHICH ARE FROZEN, AND WHICH WOULDN'T BE BASED ON YOUR ANALYSIS OF WELL, WHICH ARE CRITICAL? WELL, UNTIL YOU IF ASSUMING YOU AUTHORIZE THIS, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT'S VACANT CURRENTLY.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT THAT ACTUALLY IN ONE OF YOUR BRR'S NOW, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE.

IT'S ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY IT'S BY IT'S BY ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW.

AND THE REPORT IS NOT BY SPECIFIC POSITION. YEAH.

IT'S HARD TO TELL WHICH. YEAH. IT'S JUST A LABOR CATEGORY, NOT A YES.

WE, WE CAN WE CAN GENERALLY SHOW YOU WHAT'S WHICH WHICH IS VACANT TODAY.

BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE VACANT THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. BUT I THINK TO MAKE DECISIONS, WE SHOULD KNOW WHICH ONES YOU'RE RECOMMENDING FREEZING RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE EVERYTHING OR YOU'RE INTENDING.

RIGHT? THE SHORT ANSWER IS ANYTHING THAT'S VACANT TODAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LAG IN HIRING, THAT STILL ACHIEVES THE DESIRED GOAL, IS LIKELY TO REMAIN VACANT UNTIL WE ARE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT $2.9 MILLION HIRING.

SOME REQUIRE MORE TRAINING AND. BUT SOME HAVE A GREATER LAG THAN OTHERS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO ACHIEVE 5%. BRR TWO YOU HAVE A FROZEN COLUMN UNDER UNDER THE SWORN STAFF FOR THE PD. BUT THEN THAT FROZEN COLUMN DISAPPEARS IN BRR THREE AND THERE'S ZERO FROZEN UNDER SWORN OFFICERS.

WE'RE LEFT TO INTERPRET WHAT THE VACANCIES IN THE BRR THREE OF WHETHER ARE THEY FROZEN OR NOT, AND THAT KIND OF CLARITY AND THAT THAT CAN THAT CONTINUES THROUGHOUT ALL THE REST OF THE, THE POSITIONS THERE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENT. THAT'S CURRENT FISCAL. THAT'S NOT ASSUMING THAT'S NOT ASSUMING ACTION ON THIS YET.

SO THAT'S AS IT SITS TODAY, THIS, THIS PROCESS AFFECTS REALLY THIS THIS BEGINS JULY 1ST.

CAN YOU PRODUCE WHAT YOU EXPECT POSITION WISE TO BE FROZEN? SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE RETICENT TO DO THAT. WELL, BECAUSE I CAN, I CAN MAKE PREDICTIONS AS TO WHAT WILL BE WHAT NATURALLY BECOMES VACANT OVER THE COURSE OF A FISCAL YEAR. TYPICALLY FOR US.

WE KNOW WE HAVE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU ACTIVELY GOING TO FILL THEM AFTER? SO ASSUMING WE APPROVE DECISION PACKAGE 32. I CAN I CAN PRODUCE.

ALL 100% FROZEN AND WHAT ARE THOSE? YES. WE COULD PRODUCE THAT FOR YOU.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN WITH THE CHARGES TO THE HARBOR, TIDELANDS AND UPLANDS WITH RESPECT TO FOUR POSITIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE, IN THE BUDGET. YOU TOLD ME THEY'RE FUNDED TO THREE, BUT IT CLEARLY SAYS FOUR.

AND THEN THERE IS A IN ONE OF THE RESPONSES TO THE BRR, IT SAYS THERE'S 2.5 FOR EACH OF THE TIDELANDS AND THE UPLANDS INDICATING THAT THERE'S FIVE. AND MY OBSERVATION, HAVING BEEN IN THE HARBOR QUITE A BIT, IS THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT FOUR OFF FOUR FTE DOWN THERE. I DON'T EVEN THINK THERE'S THREE RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY INTENDING TO TO, TO STAFF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE HEARTBURN WITH IT, BUT WHEN WE'RE SO TIGHT ON THE BUDGET FOR THE HARBOR, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CHARGING THE HARBOR FOR HOURS ON PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING IN THE HARBOR.

THEY'RE DOING STUFF ELSEWHERE. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE THAT SHOWS FOR FOUR DEDICATED ONE SERGEANT, THREE DEDICATED OFFICERS TO THE MARINE ENFORCEMENT UNIT.

ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE OFFICER POSITIONS IS VACANT.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S OVERALL VACANCY OF FIVE, ONE OF THE FIVE VACANT OFFICER POSITIONS IS ONE THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THE MARINE ENFORCEMENT UNIT. SO CURRENTLY WHAT'S EXPECTED TO BE CHARGED TO THE THE UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS ARE THE THREE FILLED POSITIONS, THE THREE OF THE FOUR. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO EXPECT OVER THE COURSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND I'VE BEEN ASSURED BY STAFF THAT WE ARE NOT DRAWING AGAINST, AND WE'RE NOT DRAWING OR SETTING AN ALLOCATION AGAINST THE FUNDS BASED ON THE ORGANIZATION, ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OR THE CAPACITY FOR HIRING, BUT THE ACTUAL POSITIONS THAT ARE FILLED.

WAS THAT OFFICER POSITION FROZEN? IT, IF IF DECISION PACKAGE 32 IS APPROVED, YES IT WILL REMAIN FROZEN.

IT WILL REMAIN VACANT. OKAY. THEN IF YOU GO TO BRR.

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IT'S AN ATTACHMENT TO A BRR. I GOTTA FIND THE ACTUAL BRR NUMBER.

BRR 32. AND YOU LOOK AT THE HARBOR TIDELANDS FUND SPENDING BY DEPARTMENT AND TYPE THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 26-27. IT SAYS IN THE TIDELANDS AND LATER IN THE UPLANDS, 2.5 PERSONNEL FROM PD ARE CHARGED THERE AND IN FACT, THE, THE BUDGETED AMOUNT THERE, WHICH IF WE APPROVED THAT BRR, I WOULD ASSUME WOULD MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET, WOULD GO UP SUBSTANTIALLY FROM WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET IS PRINTED.

THE CURRENT BUDGET SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE HARBOR TIDELANDS ABOUT 470 K FOR PERSONNEL.

POLICE PERSONNEL IN THE HARBOR AND THIS IS 596 123 AND LIKEWISE IN THE UPLANDS.

IT SAYS 2.5 PERSONNEL 749 K AND THE BUDGET SAYS.

492 SO I'M I'M ASSUMING IF WE APPROVE THIS BRR THEN WE'D BE INCREASING THE BUDGET.

YOU'RE LOOKING YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME QUESTIONINGLY.

I SEE CONFLICTING DATA AND I'M I'M WONDERING WHICH IS TRUE.

SURE. SORRY. I'M JUST NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH TWO PIECES OF DATA YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

THE BRR I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WHICH IS THE OTHER PIECE.

THE OTHER PIECE IS THE BUDGET. WHEN YOU LOOK UNDER THE HARBOR AND IT SAYS FOUR FTE FOR PD ALLOCATED TO THE HARBOR.

YOU'RE SAYING INSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, THE MARINE ENFORCEMENT UNIT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT? I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 238, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE BUDGET WHERE IT SAYS HARBOR AND TIDELANDS.

THIS IS UNDER THE POLICE BUDGET. POLICE BUDGET? YEAH. WHERE IT SAYS THE BUDGETED FOR THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR 2027 IS FOR THE HARBOR TIDELANDS AND UPLANDS. AND THAT'S THE NUMBER I WAS QUOTING AGAINST THOSE THAT ARE IN THE BRR.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE AMOUNT BY FUND AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT.

I'M LOOKING AT THE HARBOR TIDELANDS AND UPLANDS FOR PD.

IN THE SUMMARY OF PERSONNEL OR IN THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS.

I'M LOOKING ON PAGE 238. 238. SO I MEAN, I'LL LOOK AT IT IN DETAIL, BUT JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE NUMBERS IN THESE TWO IN THE BUDGET AND IN THE BRR SHOULD BE THE EXACT SAME THING.

SO THE BRR IS JUST MEANT TO PROVIDE A DIFFERENT KIND OF SUMMARY WITH A BIT MORE DETAIL.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK OF WHAT'S. BUT IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.

SURE. I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR A DETAIL IF IT'S, I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU IN YOU KNOW, IN INTENT THOSE SHOULD BE THE SAME NUMBERS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THE BUDGET SAYS ONE THING AND YOU'RE APPROVING A BRR THAT SAYS SOMETHING ELSE.

THOSE SHOULD BE THE SAME THING. I ANTICIPATE I'LL FIGURE OUT A REASON WHY THOSE ARE PRESENTED DIFFERENTLY THAT I CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU.

BUT. AND ONE OTHER POSSIBILITY HERE IS, IS WE HAVE FOUR ASSIGNED SWORN PERSONNEL, SERGEANT, THREE OFFICERS. BUT DO WE ALSO HAVE AN ASSIGNED.

AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR STEVE OR ALEENA WHO'S HERE.

DO WE ALSO HAVE AN ASSIGNED NOT A CIVILIAN POSITION TO THE UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS? IS THAT THE FIFTH POSITION? I NEED YOU TO COME UP FRONT.

PLEASE COME UP FRONT. COME ON UP. SORRY. IS THAT WHAT MAKES UP? SO THE QUESTION THEN I THINK FOR FOR PD AND ALEENA'S ARE, OUR SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WE THE BRR SHOWS TWO AND A HALF FTE ASSIGNED TO THE TITLES, TWO AND A HALF FTES ASSIGNED TO THE UPLANDS.

WE KNOW THE PIER ENFORCEMENT UNIT HAS ONE SERGEANT, THREE OFFICERS.

ONE OF THE THREE OFFICER POSITIONS IS VACANT.

WHO, WHAT CIVILIAN POSITIONS ARE ASSIGNED TO THE UPLANDS ENTITLEMENTS? THERE WAS ALSO A JAILER POSITION. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO POINT FIVE JAILER UPLANDS POINT FIVE JAILER TITLES.

IS THAT POSITION CURRENTLY FILLED? IT IS IT'S NOT.

SO THAT'S ALSO VACANT. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE BRR, WE HAVE A JAILER ASSIGNED IN THE WELL, WE ARREST PEOPLE IN THE WATERFRONT QUITE OFTEN.

THAT'S HOW. WE HAVE HOW MANY TOTAL JAILERS? TEN.

TEN. SO ONE TENTH OF OUR JAILERS. NO, THIS IS A PERSONNEL DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A PERSONNEL ALLOCATION. SO WE HAVE A HALF A JAILER ASSIGNED TO THE UPLANDS AND A HALF A JAILER ASSIGNED TO THE TIDELANDS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT. SO WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY CHARGING FOR THAT POSITION TO THE TWO FUNDS. CORRECT.

THAT'S WHERE THE 2.5 AND 2.5 COMES FROM. SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN AGGREGATE NUMBER OF FTES.

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THERE'S BUT THAT'S MADE UP FOR PEER ENFORCEMENT UNIT PLUS SUPPORT STAFF.

THAT'S THE CHARGE. IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN THAT IT SAYS THAT THE TOTAL PERSONNEL BUDGET IN THE HARBOR TIDELANDS AND UPLANDS FROM PD IS 470 IN 1 CASE AND FIVE SOMETHING IN THE OTHER CASE.

SO IT DOESN'T. YOU MEAN. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THAT FIVE PEOPLE 5.0.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. HERE IT SAYS POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDER THE ATTACHMENT ONE TO THE BRR.

IT SAYS IT'S 596 K. OKAY. HIGH TIDE LANDS AND UPLANDS.

IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE HARBOR IT SAYS IT'S ONLY 470.

I HAVE. THE I'M LOOKING AT ATTACHMENT 1.A TO THE BRR AND IT'S GOT POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE TIDELANDS.

IT HAS 2.5 FULL TIME EQUIVALENT PERSONNEL AT THE.

AT A PROPOSED COST OF $596,000, AND IT HAS. BUT YET THE PD SAYS WHEN YOU GO TO THE BUDGET, IT SAYS ONLY 470 K. WELL, SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE ALLOCATING PERSONNEL TO THE HARBOR, BUT THE NUMBER THAT'S SHOWN UNDER THE PD FOR THE HARBOR DOESN'T RECONCILE, RECONCILE WITH THIS BRR.

AND I'M FINE WITH STEPHANIE GOING BACK AND RESEARCHING IT.

WE'LL CONFIRM IT. BUT IT'S VERY CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU SEE FIVE PERSONNEL HERE.

YOU SEE FOUR IN THE DOCUMENT, AND THEN YOU SEE A PRICE ASSOCIATED OR A COST ASSOCIATED WITH TWO OF THOSE NUMBERS, AND THEY DON'T RECONCILE. MAYOR, CIP MANAGER HAS HAS FIGURED OUT WHAT COULD BE THE ISSUE.

I THINK THE NUMBER YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAY BE JUST ONE DIVISION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S JUST THE PATROL VERSUS THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO THE POLICE HAS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SUMMARIES.

AND I THINK HE'S SAYING THAT PAGE 238 IS JUST ONE DIVISION.

WELL, IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT VERY CLEAR HERE. IT JUST SAYS EXPENDITURE BY FUND.

BUT SO FOR EACH SECTION IT WILL HAVE A NUMBER.

SO FOR EACH DIVISION. IS THAT COUNTED? CAN I SEE THAT? YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IF YOU GO TO THE DEPARTMENT SUMMARY OF PERSONNEL.

YOU'RE GOING TO WORK THIS OFFLINE. I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THIS. YOU'LL. I'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU OFFLINE AND SEE IF WE CAN RECONCILE THIS.

I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. PERFECT. I DON'T WANT TO TIE UP THIS MEETING FOR THAT NET.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S VERY CONFUSING. YEAH. AND IT CAN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU START LOOKING AT SUMMARY PERSONNEL IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN ITS EFFECT ON THE FUND, THAT MIGHT BE THE BETTER PLACE TO LOOK RATHER THAN BY DIVISION, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO YOU'RE GOING TO AGGREGATE EACH OF THE DIVISION ALLOCATIONS. WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT SUMMARY OF PERSONNEL OVERALL AND THEN AND THEN THAT BRR, YOU SHOULD SEE SOME SYNERGY THERE. YEAH. OKAY.

BUT ONE POINT TO MAKE THAT'S IMPORTANT BUDGETED.

THERE'S BUDGETED AND THEN THERE'S ACTUAL EXPENDING, RIGHT? SO IF THE POSITIONS ARE NOT FILLED, ACTUAL SPENDING IN THOSE TWO FUNDS WILL NOT OCCUR.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. THERE'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL FROM THE FUND JUST BECAUSE THE FTES ARE ASSIGNED BUDGETARILY TO THOSE LOCATIONS.

IF THEY'RE NOT FILLED POSITIONS, THEY WILL NOT BE CHARGED TO THOSE LOCATIONS. NO, BUT IF THEY DO GET FILLED, THEY GET CHARGED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND THEN THE DEPLOYMENT SHOULD SHOULD BEAR OUT THEIR FOCUSED TIME.

OKAY. BRR NUMBER EIGHT, THE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORT.

EIGHT. SO THE SPECIAL EVENTS, I'M ASSUMING SINCE YOU'RE CHARGING A YOU'RE PROPOSING UNDER THE.

I THINK IT'S A DECISION PACKAGE TO CHARGE PER MILE FOR STREET USAGE.

WE'D HAVE TO LIST ANY RUNS THAT WE WANT TO BE EXEMPT FROM THOSE CHARGES AS A, AS A WHAT DO WE CALL IT HERE? A SPECIAL EVENT, A SUBSIDY. SO LIKE THE NRB, THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH FARMER'S MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO EXEMPT THEM. SO WE'D HAVE TO. SO RIGHT NOW, THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH FARMERS MARKET IS EXEMPT FROM ALL CITY FEES THROUGH NOVEMBER THROUGH THE PILOT PROGRAM. SO THERE'S THERE, THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE COULD SIMPLY WAIT UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, ASSESS, ASSESS THE STATUS OF THE PROGRAM, AND THEN DETERMINE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE FEE WAIVER AT THAT TIME.

OR YOU CAN PREEMPTIVELY NOW IDENTIFY THAT FEE WAIVER AS PART OF THIS SIGNATURE EVENT SUBSIDY LIST. SO YOU CAN DO THAT.

THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO CLARIFY AND I, AND THIS WOULD BE THE ONE I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR FEE STRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR ALL SPECIAL EVENTS,

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WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE. THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO TAILOR THE NEW FEE TO PERIODIC EVENTS RATHER THAN RECURRING, SAY, WEEKLY EVENTS. SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN NARROW THE FEES SCOPE.

AND SPECIAL EVENTS IMPLY SORT OF A ONE OFF CATEGORY.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. RIGHT NOW, THE REDONDO BEACH FARMERS MARKET NORTH REDONDO BEACH FARMERS MARKET IS OPERATING UNDER A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

IT COULD VERY EASILY AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR PILOT PROGRAM, WE MAY DECIDE.

IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO CREATE AN ANNUALIZED LICENSE FOR THE ACTIVITY, AND IT MAY NO LONGER BECOME A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT A RECURRING WEEKLY PROGRAMMATIC EVENT. SO THEN IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T THEN BE IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THE SPECIAL EVENT STREET CLOSURE FEE.

IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE FEE STRUCTURE IDENTIFIED IN THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. DON'T WE STILL HAVE THE FARMERS MARKET? AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO IT IN A WHILE, SO MY APOLOGIES.

THE ONE IN VETERANS PARK. DOESN'T THAT GO DOWN GEORGE FREETH WAY? A PORTION OF IT AFFECTS GEORGE FREETH WAY. SO THAT WOULD SO ARGUABLY WE CHARGE THAT ONE EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR IT'S OUR OWN EVENT.

WE HISTORICALLY HAVE. WE WE WAIVE CITY FEES FOR CITY ACTIVITIES.

CITY. AND AND THE SAME WITH THE. NOT A ROAD FEE, BUT A PARKING FEE FOR THE.

CORRECT. FOR THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ONE. RIGHT. AND THAT ONE'S BEEN WAIVED.

WE HAVEN'T CHARGED FOR PARKING AT THAT LOCATION. WOULD WE NOW START SINCE WE'RE APPLYING? NO, THIS THIS IS A SPECIAL EVENT ROAD. THIS IS A ROAD CLOSURE FEE.

OKAY. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD NOT APPLY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, LIKE THE L.A.

KINGS HAVE A A SUBSIDY AMOUNT. WOULD WE HAVE TO INCREASE THAT? IF WE, IF YOU WANT THEM, IF YOU WANT THE SUBSIDY TO COVER THAT EXPENSE.

YES. AND SAME. THERE'S A BUNCH OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE JULY 4TH RUN.

WE HAVE THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE LEPRECHAUN.

THE SAINT PATTY'S DAY, SAINT PATRICK'S DAY. YEAH.

SO YEAH, ANY, ANY EVENT, MY FEAR IS THAT THIS NEW ROAD FEE AND I EXPRESSED THIS BEFORE WILL, WILL BE GREAT. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMING IN TO DO A ONE OFF NATIONAL THING LIKE NIKE, THEY GOT MORE MONEY THAN GOD.

THEY DON'T CARE. BUT THESE THESE HOMEGROWN LITTLE THINGS THAT BENEFIT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

THIS, THIS WOULD BE A BURDENSOME CHARGE AND MAY HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF ELIMINATING LONG EXISTING, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONS HERE IN REDONDO THAT HELP MAKE IT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS EVENT PROGRAM ALLOWS YOU TO DECIDE WHICH EVENTS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

SPECIAL EVENT. YOU'D HAVE TO LIST IT IN. YOU'D HAVE TO LIST IT IN THE EVENTS THAT ARE COVERED UNDER SUBSIDY AND AT WHAT AMOUNT.

THAT'S THE WAY TO DO THAT. SO WOULD IT BE THE SUBSIDY PLUS A WAIVER OF THE STREET USAGE FEE? IF THE INTENTION IS TO WAIVE THE THE STREET CLOSURE FEE YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY, OR YOU WOULD SIMPLY INCREASE THE SUBSIDY AMOUNT TO REFLECT THAT ADDITIONAL CHARGE.

I THINK IT'S EASIER TO JUST WAIVE THE FEE BECAUSE THE ROUTE MAY CHANGE.

IT COULD. AND THEN THEN YOU'VE GOT AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SOMEBODY USES A 10TH MORE.

OR YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO DO.

IT'S MEANT TO IT'S MEANT TO DAYLIGHT WHICH EVENTS RECEIVED WHAT SUBSIDIES AND WHAT AMOUNTS.

RATHER THAN SUDDENLY. OH, IT'S WE'RE JUST WE'RE WAVING A MAGIC WAND AND ALL EVENTS ARE WAIVED OFF.

I DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE FEE AND I'M SUPPORTIVE THAT WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, RENT OUT ALL OUR ROADS EVERY DAY OF THE, EVERY, EVERY WEEKEND OF THE YEAR FOR RUNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT I ALSO, WE HAVE SOME LONG STANDING TRADITIONS THAT MAY JUST FOLD UP AND GO AWAY BASED ON THIS FEE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TIME GOING THROUGH THIS TO, TO VALIDATE ALL OF THAT OR VERIFY ALL OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD THE SAINT PATTY'S DAY FOLD IF IF WE CHARGED HIM THIS FEE OR WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO ABSORB IT? GO AHEAD. COULD WE COULD WE WAIVE A FEE, LIKE JUST TO PICK SAINT PATRICK'S DAY, FOR EXAMPLE? LIKE WE WAIVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FEES OR WOULD WE.

IT WOULD. NO, THAT, THAT'S ONLY THAT'S PROCEDURALLY IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE FOR BUSINESS LICENSES.

THE WAY TO WAIVE THOSE FEES IS TO JUST TO TAKE COUNCIL ACTION.

RIGHT. YEAH. WE DON'T NEED A PROCESS FOR THAT.

FOOTNOTE TO THE ACTUAL FEE WAIVER? YOU CAN. COUNCIL.

YOU. YOU CAN. IT JUST DEPENDS ON. DO YOU THINK EACH YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF EVENTS, THOUGH, TO DETERMINE WHAT SHOULD WARRANT THAT TYPE OF A WAIVER, RIGHT? I MEAN, EACH OF THE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE TO ASSESS THE IMPACTS OF THOSE EVENTS AGAINST THE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.

YEAH. BUT I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GET BY THE TIME WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THIS BUDGET, IS THE TIME TO MEET AND GET AN ASSESSMENT FROM EACH OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS ON WHETHER THEY COULD STAND THAT FEE OR WHETHER THEY'D GO AWAY.

I WOULD, I WOULD GUESS THEY'D POSTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AWAY AND THEN WE'LL WAIVE IT.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON INCOMPLETE INFORMATION, WHICH I GUESS WE ALWAYS DO, BUT. WE DO. AND, AND, AND IDEALLY, RIGHT. IF THE EVENT, IF IT WERE TO BE CHARGED, THE FEE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THAT, THAT FEE ON TO ITS PARTICIPANTS. RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS WHOLE SPECIAL EVENT ACTIVITY IS THE,

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THERE IS REVENUE GENERATED ON CITY STREETS THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY SHARE IN, AND THAT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO DECIDE THAT WE DO NOT SHARE IN THAT REVENUE, BECAUSE YOU VIEW IT AS SOMETHING THAT IS PROVIDING AN INTRINSIC VALUE TO THE THE RESIDENTS OF REDONDO BEACH IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT ULTIMATELY THAT IS A POLICY DECISION, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IT DELIBERATELY ALONG THOSE LINES.

OKAY. CAN WE CONTINUE TO, SINCE I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING, BUT WE'RE SCOTT AND I BOTH HAVE STUFF ON THIS AS WELL.

COULD WE CONTINUE TALKING THIS TOPIC? SURE, SCOTT, YOU GO AHEAD.

YOU PLEASE. BRAD. OKAY. THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THIS FEE, WHICH WE WILL THEN WEIGH OR CREATE A SUBSIDY FOR THESE LOCAL EVENTS, WHETHER IT BE THE THE HOLIDAY STROLLS, THE FARMERS MARKETS, THE SUPER BOWL 10-K TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE PRICE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE, OR DO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE? AND DO WE HAVE, WHAT? A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE, A DIFFERENT WAY OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT STAFF IS TRYING TO DO? WHAT I SEE HERE IS THEY'RE SAYING, HERE'S THE FEE.

IT'S NICE AND SIMPLE. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 8000 TIMES CALL IT SIX MILES, YOU'LL HAVE TO CREATE INSTEAD OF A $10,000 SUBSIDY, IT'S NOW GOING TO BE A $35,000 SUBSIDY.

SO THE RATE IS WHAT IT IS. WOULD WE NEED TO CHOOSE THOSE SUBSIDY AMOUNTS NOW, OR COULD WE CHOOSE THOSE SUBSIDY AMOUNTS LATER? THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION FOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

IF YOU CAN CHOOSE, YOU WOULD NEED TO CHOOSE THE SUBSIDY AMOUNTS.

NOW IF YOU WANT TO LATER DECIDE TO WAIVE A FEE, YOU CAN DO THAT ON AN INDIVIDUALIZED BASIS BASED ON THE EVENT REQUEST. YOU CAN DO THAT LATER.

WAIVING FEES. YOU CAN DO. CREATING A SUBSIDY AGAINST ANTICIPATED REVENUE OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR COST, YOU NEED TO ESTABLISH NOW UNDER A 4/5 ACTION.

OKAY. AND SO ARE YOU SAYING WE CAN WAIVE IT? YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT.

YOU CAN'T. IF AN EVENT JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE FARMERS MARKET.

RIGHT. THINK ABOUT THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. NEW EVENT CAME FORWARD WITH A FEE WAIVER REQUEST.

HEY, WE CAN'T AFFORD AT THE TIME THE STREET CLOSURE PERMIT, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH CLOSING THE STREET.

THAT'S A ONE TIME FEE, NOT A RECURRING FEE. COUNCIL CHOSE TO WAIVE THAT FEE TO SUPPORT THE EVENT.

RIGHT. WE WAIVED, I THINK IT WAS IF OUR MEMORY SERVES $2,300 IN FEES AT THE AT THE START, AND SOME OF THOSE FEES WOULD BE ONGOING.

SOME OF THOSE WERE ONGOING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVITY. RIGHT? AND WE EFFECTIVELY SAID WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE ALL FEES THROUGH THE PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH IS IN NOVEMBER. YOU TOOK COUNCIL ACTION AT THE TIME TO DO THAT. THERE WAS NO NEW EXPENSE TO US ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THERE WAS NO BUDGET ACTION TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO COVER THAT, THAT COST.

SO YOU HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT THROUGH COUNCIL ACTION WITHOUT A 4/5 SORT OF BUDGET MODIFICATION.

IF LATER YOU SAY, HEY, I WANT TO SUBSIDIZE AN ACTIVITY TO THE TUNE OF $40,000 AND ABSORB THAT COST, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BUDGET MODIFICATION.

THAT'S A 4/5 ACTION. IF YOU DECIDE TO WAIVE A FEE FOR PLANNED REVENUE, YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED AN APPROPRIATION WITH FEE WAIVERS. SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT LATER.

BUT I DO THINK THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS A POLICY IS NOW.

I KNOW, BUT TO ACTUALLY SAY WHAT THE SUBSIDIZED AMOUNT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW, WE'D HAVE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE KNOW THE TEN K 6.2 MILES, BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE SAME ROAD? AND I DON'T THINK IT IS TOTAL OF 6.2 MILES OF ROADWAY.

I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN THAT. THAT'S MY POINT.

HOW DO WE DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE'RE SUBSIDIZING IF WE DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF ROADWAY THEY USE UP RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SOME WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME ESTIMATES. AND I THINK WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING IS MAKING THE ESTIMATE AGAINST HOW MUCH SUBSIDY WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE THAT PARTICULAR ACTIVITY IN GENERAL? RIGHT. THERE WAS A YEAR, ONE YEAR WE HAD, I THINK, MORE SUBSIDY AFFORDED TO SPRINGFEST THAN WE ACTUALLY HAD TOTAL CITY FEES. I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE EVEN OCCURRED AGAIN LAST YEAR. SO YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT IF YOUR GOAL IS TO REALLY OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE IMPORTANT ANALYSIS IS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH OF THESE EVENTS TO DETERMINE IF THEY WARRANT THAT WAIVER.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO LIKE WE WERE SAYING, THE ONE THING WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION WOULD BE THOSE ESTIMATES FOR THESE EVENTS.

AND IF IT'S ALL EVENTS, JUST LOOKING AT THE FARMER'S MARKET IN NORTH REDONDO BEACH, ASSUMING THEY'RE TAKING AN EIGHTH OF A MILE STREET THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK, THAT'S $52,000 PER YEAR. THAT'S A SEEMS LIKE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT THAT THESE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IMPACT OR GENERATION OR SOMETHING.

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SO I IT'S AN ODD, YOU KNOW, I SEE HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER, BUT SOMETIMES IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S WAY HIGH.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT DISTINCTION BETWEEN A WEEKLY FARMERS MARKET ACTIVITY WITH A KNOWN STREET CLOSURE.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM AN IMPACT STANDPOINT, RIGHT? THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS FULLY FULLY INFORMED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE. TRAFFIC IS ADJUSTING AGAINST THE CLOSURE ON A WEEKLY BASIS, ANTICIPATING ITS CLOSURE.

A WEEKLY EVENT LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OVER 52 WEEKS THAT A THAT A ONE OFF EVENT WOULD HAVE AS A AS A SPECIAL OCCURRENCE.

SO I DO THINK IT'S FAIR TO TREAT THE FARMER'S MARKET SCENARIO DIFFERENTLY THAN A, AN OCCASIONAL OR PERIODIC 10-K.

RIGHT? YEAH. SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET THE ESTIMATED FEE FOR THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT ARE ON BRR 8. I BELIEVE WE COULD GENERATE FOR YOU AN ESTIMATE OF THOSE, THE ANTICIPATED FEES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR KNOWN, OUR KNOWN EVENTS, AND THEN ANYTHING THAT COMES UP LATER BECAUSE LIKE THE, NOT LEPRECHAUN DASH, WITH THE SAINT PATRICK'S DAY RUN. CAME OUT OF, WELL, SAINT PATRICK'S DAY RUN CAME OUT OF, YOU KNOW, HIBERNATION. SO IT WASN'T EVER ON OUR LIST.

IF THAT ONE CAME BACK AND THEY SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO DO THIS RUN, WE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO WAIVE TWO THIRDS OF THE FEE OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS.

I THINK WHAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH IS SORT OF WHAT I WOULD CALL BRR 8.B RIGHT.

WE'LL CALL THIS 8.A, THIS WILL BE 8.B. AND WHAT WE WOULD ENDEAVOR TO DO IS PROVIDE AN ESTIMATED FEE, FOR OUR KNOWN STREET. THE EVENTS THAT HAVE STREET USAGE OR UTILIZATION.

RIGHT? I DO BELIEVE, THOUGH, PERSONALLY, THAT THE FARMER'S MARKET SCENARIO SHOULD BE MEMORIALIZED THROUGH A LICENSE, A MORE FORMAL LICENSE, ON A GO FORWARD BASIS.

IT IS SHOWING GREAT SUCCESS. I DO BELIEVE AT THE END OF OUR PILOT PROGRAM, WE'RE ALL GOING TO WANT TO SEE IT CONTINUE.

THE BETTER STRUCTURE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ACTIVITY IS RATHER THAN A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, WE MAY WANT TO ENGAGE IN A, IN A STREET LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT MEMORIALIZES THE EVENT AND NO LONGER TREATED AS A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT AS A PROGRAM IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO AVOID THAT AS A PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.

AND IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT FOR ALL THE OTHER FARMER'S MARKETS. JUST. ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, OUR OWN, WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT FOR OUR OWN FARMER'S MARKET PER SE. BUT YES, WE MAY WANT TO DO IT FOR THE ONE IN THE VILLAGE AS WELL. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU KNOW, IS COMING TO US NOW. IT'S BAKED INTO THE BUDGET.

WE ALL SAW THE FIRST PAGE WHERE IT'S $0, RIGHT? THIS CITY IS AT $0 AT THIS POINT. AND AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZES. I SEE CHIEF SPRENGEL IS HERE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF IN A SERIOUS SITUATION. I LOVE THESE EVENTS.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT A CLOSET FULL OF 4TH OF JULY RUN T-SHIRTS.

I THINK WE ALL DO. AND I MEAN, I WISH WE WERE FLUSH WITH CASH WHERE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CUT A CHECK ESSENTIALLY TO.

I SEE PRESIDENT SANTOS IS HERE, PRESUMABLY TO LISTEN IN, MAYBE ASK FOR SOMETHING TOO.

BUT I'M RELUCTANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THIS YEAR.

I'VE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH A NUMBER OF STAFF.

THANK YOU. AND THESE EVENTS DO HAVE IMPACTS. WE KNOW THAT ITS IMPACTS ON STAFF, ITS IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

GETTING IN AND OUT AND NOT JUST IN DISTRICT ONE AND TWO, WHICH FEEL IT THE MOST.

I, I HEAR IT FROM PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT WHO WANT TO GO DOWN TO THE WATERFRONT.

THEY WANT TO WALK THE ESPLANADE. IT'S LOCKED UP TODAY.

SO YEAH, IT'S IT'S REAL, I LIKE THEM. BUT I THINK ALSO TO THE POINTS WE HEARD EARLIER, WE KIND OF GOT TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

I KNOW MIKE WARD, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING HIM IN PERSON WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE AT OUR SPRING FEST EVENT.

AND I'M SURE MICKEY IS HERE IN THE BACK. NICE MAN.

HE DOES A LOT. I WANT TO HELP HIM YET THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

AND FOR ALL I KNOW, IT'S A FOR PROFIT EVENT, AND I HAVEN'T ASKED TO LOOK AT THE BOOKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF NOT MY BUSINESS HOW MUCH THEY DO OR DON'T MAKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S. I'D BE GUESSING. IS IT 25 K INTO THE POCKET? YOU KNOW, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T SUBSIDIZE EVERY EVENT, AND CERTAINLY NOT TO THE MAXIMUM.

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I'M FEVERISHLY PROMOTING THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD. I SEE THE THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN RATES TO CHARGE A LITTLE MORE PER RUNNER.

I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. IS IT 49 OR IS IT 52. THERE'S WAYS ECONOMICALLY FOR VENDORS TO MAKE THAT UP.

AND THEN I THINK A POINT WAS RAISED AND WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE.

HOW MANY EVENTS CAN WE HAVE? LIKE SAINT PAT'S WAS BACK.

NOW WE'RE HAVING 4TH OF JULY. WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE NIKE.

IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. SO I'D LIKE TO STRIKE A BALANCE WHERE WE GET THIS EXCLUSIVE USE REVENUE IN PLACE WORK WITH KIND OF THE SUBSIDY AMOUNTS WE HAVE AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THIS.

AND IF, IF SOMEBODY REALLY DOES COME FORWARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL FOR CHARITY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. BUT I THINK FOR NOW, WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER INCLUDING THIS REVENUE.

KIND OF COME INTO RECONCILIATION WITH THE FACTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY HERE AND KIND OF GO ACCORDINGLY.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY VIEW, AT LEAST FOR THIS YEAR. LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE NEXT YEAR.

OKAY, SO THANK YOU. MAYOR YOUR HANDS UP. IS THAT ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC? NO, THAT WAS SORT OF ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

NOT THIS TOPIC. OKAY. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME LOCAL EVENTS WE SHOULD CONTINUE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INGRAINED INTO THE CULTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE TURN INTO A COMMUNITY CAN ONLY SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE FEES WE CHARGE. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SUPPORT A NIKE COMING IN OR OR IN AND OUT BURGER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T THINK THOSE NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME CHARACTER AS A LOCAL LOCALLY GENERATED EVENT.

TO SWIM THE AVENUES ISN'T IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT THAT'S LOCALLY GENERATED.

THE CAR SHOW IS LOCALLY GENERATED. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO HELP WE NEED TO DEFINE A CERTAIN SET THAT WE'RE WILLING TO SUBSIDIZE.

I'M NOT WILLING TO SAY I'M, I WANT TO CHARGE ALL OF THEM THE SAME AMOUNT.

BUT WE NEED TO PICK WHAT OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS ARE AND FUND THOSE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT. JUMPING TO BRR 9, NOT SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL REVENUES. IN THE PAST. AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN WHEN THIS FELL OUT, BUT EACH BUDGET HAD MANY FINANCIALS BUILT INTO THE BUDGET FOR SEASIDE LAGOON FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND FOR THE HARBOR, TIDELANDS AND UPLANDS.

AND I'D PREFER TO SEE THOSE BACK IN THE BUDGET VERSUS A BRR.

AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION.

YOU KNOW, THIS BRR ONLY HAS THE, THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE COST SIDE OF THINGS.

I KNOW THAT'S BURIED IN THE BUDGET ELSEWHERE, BUT THEN WE, WE'RE FORCED TO TRY TO RECONCILE THAT.

YEAH, WE, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO RECONCILE.

THE INTENTION OF THE BRR'S FOR THE, WHAT I WOULD CALL THE COST CENTERS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL.

IT'S MEANT TO SHOW EXPENDITURES AGAINST REVENUES.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY UPDATE THE BRR ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TO, TO COVER THAT, THAT COST. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO DO IT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WE GO FUTURE AND FUTURE BUDGETS.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE MONEY. IT USED TO BE WHERE IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE THE REASON NOT TO DO THAT.

YEAH. THE MINI FINANCIALS, THEY MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS AND THEY DON'T PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PROVIDE EXPLANATION.

YOU LOOK AT THE HARBOR, UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS BRR.

THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE PRO FORMA THIS FISCAL YEAR IN THAT BRR THAN THERE IS IN THE MINI FINANCIAL THAT WAS IN THE BOOK LAST YEAR, THAT HAS BASELINE CORE ESTIMATES AND DOESN'T, AND GIVES YOU A STRUCTURAL EXCESS OR DEFICIT THAT CANDIDLY MAY HAVE MISSING PIECES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROPOSED DECISION PACKAGE, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THE BUDGET.

WELL, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S THE BRR EXPLAINS IT WITH MORE DETAIL.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY. THE BRR ON UPLANDS AND TIDELANDS HAS WAY MORE WAY MORE DATA AND INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH COSTING AND ALLOCATIONS.

ALL THAT MATERIAL YOU HAVE IN THAT BRR. NONE OF THAT'S IN A MINI FINANCIAL.

IN THE OLD FORMAT. NO I AGREE. I AGREE. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW YOU FLUSH THAT.

WE COULD SEE THE PLUSES AND MINUSES AND WHETHER WE'RE MAKING MONEY.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE MISSING IS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. WE'VE GOT A HUGE WE'VE GOT, WHAT, 20 MILLION IN FACILITIES COSTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.

THAT'S UNFUNDED. WELL, RIGHT. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT IN A MINI FINANCIAL SNAPSHOT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OF THAT DETAIL. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. I THINK WHAT WE DECIDED WAS THE MINI FINANCIALS WERE TOO ABBREVIATED TO BE HELPFUL.

AND IF WE NEED TO RECRAFT THESE BRR'S TO GIVE YOU MORE.

SO IT'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU BROADER EXPLANATION, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT IS THE COUNCIL TO FORGET THEY ASK IT AND THEN IT'S NOT A BRR.

WELL, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WE WOULD STRIVE TO DO IS ENSURE THAT BRR IS ON THOSE CORE.

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AS I SAID, COST PERFORMANCE ARE ARE REALLY RECURRING BRR'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE EACH YEAR WE'RE GIVING YOU DATA ON THE LAGOON, THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THE UPLANDS AND THE TIDELANDS, AND THEN ANY OTHER COST CENTER YOU THINK IS THAT CRITICAL.

WE USED TO DO FARMERS MARKET. WE USED TO DO CDBG, WE USED TO DO SECTION EIGHT HOUSING.

BUT ALL OF THAT GOT TO A POINT WHERE HOW HELPFUL WAS THAT? NONE OF THAT WAS IN OUR CONTROL. YOU CAN'T ACT ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

LIKE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS RECURRING.

IT WAS. AND THAT IS IN OUR. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE EXPENDITURE IN THIS PARTICULAR BRR, WE DON'T. WE JUST HAVE THE REVENUES, THE EXPENDITURE LINE AND.

SEASIDE LAGOON AT ALL. WE. IT'S COMING. IT'S JUST NOT IN THIS DROP.

IT'S IN NEXT. IT'S IN NEXT WEEK'S DROP. YEAH.

OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHY THE SHIFT MAYOR. IT WAS REALLY.

AS LONG AS IT'S RECURRING AND THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO.

BECAUSE I'M AFRAID OF A FUTURE COUNCIL NOT KNOWING AND NOT ASKING.

AND THEN, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GET THAT INSIGHT.

ON BRR 26. THAT'S THE WILDERNESS PARK HISTORIC STATUS.

I THOUGHT RON MAROKO AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ARE WILLING TO, TO DO ALL THE, ALL THE COST SIDE OF THINGS, EXCEPT MAYBE AN APPLICATION FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THE CEQA SHOULD JUST BE A FOR LIKE WILDERNESS PARK SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO DO BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING LEFT BUT THE CONCRETE PADS.

AND WE CAN JUST SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE CONCRETE PADS. YEAH.

I'LL HAVE ELIZABETH MAYBE COME UP TO SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR BRR.

DID YOU THE HISTORIC, DID YOU HANDLE THE HISTORIC.

IT'D BE MARC. WILDERNESS PARK. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, MARC ON, THIS IS BRR NUMBER 26.

26. SO THIS IS THE. WHAT IS THE PROCESS, COST AND IMPACT AND BENEFIT OF OBTAINING STATE OR FEDERAL HISTORIC STATUS FOR WILDERNESS PARK? YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. SO THERE WOULD REALLY BE NOT MUCH COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE APPLICATION.

IT'D BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO HELP ASSIST WITH THAT APPLICATION.

THE STATE MAY ALSO ACCEPT STAFF PREPARING THE WRITE UP.

I THINK YOU HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE WILLING TO PREPARE THE WRITE UP FOR THE NOMINATION.

THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE THAT ANY FUTURE MODIFICATIONS OF THE TO THE PARK WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH A HISTORIC REVIEW PROCESS.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S, IT WOULD BIND THE CITY FROM MAKING THOSE MODIFICATIONS, BUT THERE IS LIKE A LEGAL PROCESS OF REVIEWING IT PER THE HISTORIC STANDARDS AND. YOU CAN MAKE A PLACE A HISTORIC LANDMARK, RIGHT? YOU CAN LIKE WE GOT A HISTORIC MARKER OUT IN FRONT OF A STATE HISTORIC MARKER IN FRONT OF A.

YES. NEVER PREVENTED US FROM DOING ANYTHING THERE.

YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PREVENTATIVE, HOWEVER.

AND IT WOULDN'T IT BE TO THE EXTENT OF MAKING LANDSCAPE MODIFICATIONS.

BUT SAY, IF THE CITY WERE TO BUILD STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY AT SOME POINT OR MAKE OTHER ALTERATIONS TO IT, POSSIBLY. BUT ITS HISTORIC NATURE ISN'T EXISTING STUFF EXCEPT THOSE CONCRETE PADS.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE LOCATION. YEAH, IT'S THE LOCATION, BUT IT'S PART OF THE WRITEUP.

BUT WOULD BE IT WOULD KIND OF LOCK IN WHATEVER IS HISTORIC ABOUT THE PARK IN ITS CURRENT STATE AND BASED ON.

AND I'D SAY THERE'S NOTHING EXCEPT THE CONCRETE PADS.

AND THEN IF WE'RE NOT MODIFYING THE CONCRETE PADS, THERE'S NOTHING. SO WE'RE PRESERVING EFFECTIVELY. THEN THE, THE, THE CONCRETE PADS. I MEAN, THAT'S THE INTENTION OF IT'S HISTORY.

OR WE WHAT'S OUR GOAL, I GUESS, IS MY QUESTION TO GET IT LOOK, YOU KNOW, NOTED AS A HISTORIC A HISTORIC PLACE IN THE CITY.

BECAUSE OF THE THE MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM, NIKE MISSILE SITE.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT'S UNDISTURBED THERE FROM THOSE HISTORIC USES IS THOSE CONCRETE PADS.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS GONE. IT'S GONE. YEAH.

LONG GONE. IT WAS TURNED OVER TO US GONE. AND I DON'T SEE US MODIFYING THOSE CONCRETE PADS IN THE FUTURE.

IF WE DO, THEN WE SHOULD GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC ANALYSIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE PARK ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE DEEMED HISTORIC SO THAT IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE ANYTHING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT NECESSARILY. IT'S PART OF THE REPORT.

THE NOMINATION FOR THE PROPERTY WOULD LOOK AT IT WOULD LOOK AT ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ON WHAT THE ORIGINAL PARK, WHAT THE CONFIGURATION WAS, AND DOCUMENT WHAT ELEMENTS OF ITS ORIGINAL HISTORIC STATUS ARE STILL STILL REMAIN.

RIGHT. IT WOULD JUST BE PART OF TRYING TO DOCUMENT WHAT'S THERE FOR THIS ONE IT'S FOR THE PARK.

IT'S BASED ON ACTIVITIES THAT OCCURRED THERE AND IT'S A PLACE.

SO I DON'T THINK THE CITY WOULD BE VERY LIMITED IN TERMS OF MAKING FUTURE ALTERATIONS TO THE PARK.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S LIKELY. HOWEVER, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT IT'S SHOULD THE CITY DECIDE TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE ON THE PARK OR MAKE SOME MORE SIGNIFICANT

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MODIFICATIONS, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE PARK.

OKAY. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR THE FOR THE COMMISSION.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE HERE. WE'RE NOT THERE'S NO BUILDING.

WE'RE GOING TO ALTER. THAT'S HISTORIC. AND I WOULD SAY THE PRIMARY BENEFITS, IT WOULD BE ON THE STATE REGISTER IF THE STATE DECIDES TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION AND APPROVE IT. AND THEN THE CITY COULD PUT A A PLAQUE NOTING THAT OR AN INTERPRETIVE PANEL THAT SPEAKS TO THE HISTORY OF IT. IT'S MORE ABOUT THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND RECOGNITION.

THERE REALLY AREN'T MANY FINANCIAL BENEFITS, UNLIKE THE MILLS ACT, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T APPLY IN THIS CASE.

YEAH. BUT WE FILLED THAT, AES FILLED IN, WITH, NOT AES, SCE FILLED IN THE SALT LAKE A YEAR AFTER THEY THE PLAQUE WAS PUT UP THERE FOR THE SALT LAKE. THE STONE WAS PUT UP FOR THE SALT LAKE.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE CERTAINLY COULD CREATE HISTORIC MONUMENTS OR MARKERS UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.

I THINK IT JUST COMES DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DESIGNATION ADDS VALUE.

YEAH. OKAY. MAYOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? YES, SIR. BEFORE YOU. I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

I MEAN, IT IS FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE MADE IT. WE'VE DONE A LOT, CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF PLUS YEARS AT WILDERNESS PARK.

IT IS SEEMS TO BE HISTORIC. WE WE KNOW WE'VE HEARD THERE ARE SOME PLACARDS UP THERE THAT SPEAK TO IT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE RECOGNIZE IT AS A HISTORIC RESOURCE SHORT OF PUTTING IT ON THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER? IS THERE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE THERE? AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COSTS AND BURDENS? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE AND YOU ANSWERED THIS A LITTLE BIT, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH NOMINATING WILDERNESS PARK FOR THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER OF HISTORIC RESOURCES, IS IT THE ENTIRE PARK OR WILL THEY GO ALONG WITH.

IT'S JUST THE CONCRETE PAD. IF IT'S JUST THE CONCRETE PAD, MAYBE WE GET OUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.

OR NOT. I MEAN, DO THEY LOOK AT THIS? AND AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE MADE THE POINT IN THE BRR SPEAKS TO.

ONCE SOMETHING IS DESIGNATED, AT LEAST MY READING OF IT, YOU CAN CLARIFY ON THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER OF HISTORIC RESOURCES IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES, AND I HOPE WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE THERE.

DOES IT THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, BUREAUCRATIC OR OTHERWISE, IN CEQA? NOW WE'RE KIND OF KICKING OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, WHY? WHY DID WE DO THIS? SO THAT'S KIND OF A LOT THERE.

BUT I THINK YOU WERE FOLLOWING ME. SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT.

YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. IF IT'S ON THE STATE REGISTER, THEN IT'S SUBJECT TO CEQA, THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

SO THAT COULD POTENTIALLY KICK IN ON A FUTURE PROJECT.

AN ALTERNATIVE TO NOMINATING IT FOR THE STATE REGISTER WOULD BE TO LANDMARK IT LOCALLY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO FOR PROPERTIES.

AND THAT STILL MAKES THEM ELIGIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT.

AND THEY CAN STILL DO A PLAQUE AND GET RECOGNITION.

SO WE COULD MAKE IT A LOCAL LANDMARK. AND THEN ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT IS IF FOR SOME REASON CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE, THE CITY HAS ADDITIONAL CONTROL OVER THE FUTURE STATUS OF THE PARK, AND IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE SUBJECT TO CEQA, SHOULD THE CITY TO A PROJECT AT THE PARK AS WELL.

NOW, THAT MIGHT BE THE COMPROMISE THERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD. I'VE TAKEN UP A LOT OF TIME.

ANY ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TALK THROUGH BRR'S OR DECISION PACKAGES OR THE OPERATIONAL PART OF THE BUDGET? I JUST WOULD. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. OKAY. I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE DECISION PACKAGE.

TWO ABOUT THE PARKING METERS. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE DECISION PACKAGE, IT SAYS THAT THE $0.25 AN HOUR IS GOING TO RAISE THE REVENUE BY 340,000 A YEAR. BUT I LOOK AT THE BUDGET PAGE 105.

THE PROJECTED BUDGET ISN'T $300,000 LARGER. IS THAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE REFLECTED IN THE? YES. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WHEN YOU LOOK AT A DEPARTMENT'S OPERATING BUDGET OUTSIDE OF THE CITY MANAGER'S MESSAGE AND THE DECISION PACKAGES YOU'RE SEEING, CORE, YOU'RE SEEING CORE REVENUES AND EXPENSES BEFORE DECISION PACKAGE.

RIGHT? OKAY. SO IT HASN'T YET BEEN MODIFIED. SO IT DOESN'T ASSUME YOUR APPROVAL.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWING YOU IN OUR PROJECTED CHARTS TO TRY TO HELP SUMMARIZE THIS IS WHAT DOES THE FULLY RECOMMENDED BUDGET DO ON A, ON A BOTTOM LINE BASIS. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION MATERIALS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT STRUCTURES IN THE IN THE PROPOSED BOOK, THEY ARE PRE DECISION PACKAGE.

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ALL RIGHT. SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE, THE REVENUE IS 3.7-3.9 MILLION A YEAR FROM, FROM PARKING.

IS ALL OF THAT PARKING REVENUE SUBJECT TO THE 25 CENT PER HOUR INCREASE? BECAUSE THAT'S. NO, SOME PARKING REVENUE COMES THROUGH OUR, OUR PERMITS AND SOME OF THAT IS.

BUT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS I WAS JUST, THE MATH DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT.

YEAH, NOT ALL OF IT. SO THAT THAT THAT WORKS THEN BEING A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THAT DOES WORK OUT.

I HAD SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK I'LL TALK TO YOU OFFLINE ABOUT.

SO I THINK I'M ACTUALLY GOOD. OKAY. I JUST HAD A JUST MORE CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS ON THE WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP REORGANIZATIONS. JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO IN TERMS OF THE WORKLOAD THAT'S PLACED ON WHAT'S CURRENTLY WED IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

AND THEN IN ADDITION, THERE WAS A BRR FOR A SENIOR ANALYST TO COME HELP SUPPORT THAT GROUP, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS. SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL MANPOWER.

THERE WILL. YEAH, YEAH. JUST TO DRAW ON THAT FURTHER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT OF THE WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT AS IT SITS TODAY IS PROPOSED FOR TRANSFER TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MARC IN PARTICULAR AND HIS TEAM.

SOME OF THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNCTIONS MAY EVEN BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF IN MY OFFICE.

OKAY. THE GOAL IS TO ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE, ALONG THE LINES WITH THE MAYOR'S COMMENT ABOUT RESOURCE, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BURDEN FOR THE DEPARTMENT SO IT CAN FOCUS ON WATERFRONT PROPERTIES AND OPERATIONS AS OPPOSED TO INLAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MOST OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES ARE REALLY ULTIMATELY GATEKEPT BY OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S PERMITTING, IT'S PERMITTING AND APPROVALS THAT THAT ACCELERATE BUSINESS INVESTMENT, NOT, NOT HAND WALKING APPLICATIONS, SO TO SPEAK.

SO WE THINK IT'S A LOGICAL FIT. MARC'S, MARC'S EAGER AND HIS TEAM'S EAGER TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF HIS FOCUS OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A COMPONENT OF THE REORG. AGAIN, IT'S IT'S NOT A I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT WILL REMAIN. AND I KNOW HOW SENSITIVE FOLKS ARE TO THAT.

AND IT'S JUST HOW IT'S SUPPORTED AND THE FUNCTIONALITY WE'RE EXPECTING FROM THE STAFF THAT ARE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED.

OKAY. AND SO FROM THE, LET'S CALL IT FROM THE OUTSIDE OR FROM THE CONSUMERS DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT, FROM BOATERS TO TENANTS TO, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE DOWN THERE, WHAT THEY SEE FROM THE WATERFRONT DEPARTMENT WILL BE THE SAME AND PROBABLY BETTER AND IMPROVED. I MEAN, CANDIDLY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, AND I SHOULD TOUCH ON THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT SHOULD HELP WITH SPECIAL EVENT COORDINATION.

ONE OF THE ONE OF THE AREAS OF STRAIN, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND WATERFRONT DEPARTMENTS HISTORICALLY IS COORDINATING ACTIVITIES AT THE LAGOON, IN AND AROUND, IN AND AROUND THE LAGOON, AND HAVING A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST THAT'S FOCUSED ON SPECIAL EVENT ACTIVITIES INSIDE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WITH THE CONNECTIVITY THAT THE DIRECTOR ROLE WILL HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS SHOULD ALLOW FOR MORE INTEGRATION AND BETTER COORDINATION ON THAT FRONT. AND THE STAFFING SUPPORT THAT THE ANALYSTS WILL PROVIDE WILL HELP BACKSTOP SOME OF THE LOSS OF OUR DIRECTOR'S TIME DEDICATED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. THANK YOU. FOR DECISION PACKAGE 13 ABOUT THE SCHEDULED VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

SIMILARLY TO THE BRR REQUESTED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TURNOUTS AND THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED FOR PD, IT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL TO SEE PAST YEAR EXPENDITURES IN VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

I KNOW THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME AND IT'S EXPECTED, BUT IT JUST GIVES US A GOOD PURVIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

SURE. YEAH. AND JUST A NOTE FOR THAT. YEAH. THE BRR WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE BRR HAS SOME HISTORIC EXPENSE, SOME SPENDING THERE, AND I WILL TELL YOU, THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND IS AN AREA THAT IS A FOCUS OF ANDY, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A NUMBER OF TIMES. WE PLAN TO COME BACK WITH A BROAD PROGRAMMATIC REVIEW OF OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT CYCLING.

YOU KNOW, BY UNIT BY TYPE, WE HAVE MORE THAN 200 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT PROGRAM.

THEY ARE ALL ON A SCHEDULE. THAT SCHEDULE HASN'T REALLY BEEN EVALUATED FOR HOLISTICALLY FOR MANY YEARS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT THE TEAM IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON.

AND, AND THAT'S IT. ULTIMATELY, A POLICY DECISION THAT WILL, WILL IN DISCUSSION WILL HAVE AT THE, AT THIS BODY'S LEVEL. WHILE WE SAVE MONEY BY NOT REPLACING THEM, WE MAY INCUR MORE COSTS, WE MAY INCUR MORE COSTS LONG TERM. AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF ACCELERATED SPENDING, ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND THAT COST IS THAT COST IS COMING DUE.

AND THAT'S AND WE'RE SLOW. YOU'RE SEEING IN OUR ISF INCREASED ALLOCATIONS TO THE GENERAL FUND IN PARTICULAR,

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IDENTIFIED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COVER THAT ACCELERATED SPENDING.

SO IT'S TIME THAT WE RECONCILE THAT AND THAT WE LOOK FOR BALANCE ACROSS THE FUND.

YEP. OKAY. JUST A NOTE ON THAT ONE. AND THEN FOR DECISION PACKAGE NUMBER FOUR I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE INCREASES I THINK CLEARLY ARE WARRANTED.

I WONDER, ARE THESE HUD APPROVED? SO THESE INCREASES ARE FOR COVERING AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS, INCOME CERTIFICATION FEES INCREASING, INCREASING SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO AS COMPLICATED AS HUD IS AND THE RULES THAT THEY HAVE ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS APPROVED? SO JUST TO MAKE IT SUPER CLEAR, THESE ARE ONLY RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FEES AND WORK THAT STAFF HAS UNDERTAKEN OR CONSULTANT HAS TAKEN ON BEHALF OF STAFF.

WAIT, SAY AGAIN. COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM SECTION EIGHT. COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM OUR VOUCHER PROGRAMS. SO THESE ARE LIKE AFFORDABLE UNITS WE HAVE. LET'S SAY IF 401 PCH WERE BUILT AND THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT THEY'RE. CORRECT.

OKAY. SO ALL THE MONITORING WORK, WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT UP TO MARKET RATE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, WE COULDN'T AT LEAST FIND A HISTORY OF WHEN THE LAST TIME WE ASSESSED THESE FEES WAS RIGHT.

FANTASTIC. EFFECTIVELY CHARGED TO DEVELOPERS AND APPLICANTS OF THE PROJECTS.

NOT OUR SECTION. BECAUSE IT IS A COST TO US IN PROCESSING ALL OF THIS AND AN UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT WE ARE INCURRING.

SO DOES THIS APPLY THEN? OR HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO APPLY THIS TO AFFORDABLE UNITS EXISTING IN THE CITY? SO EXISTING UNITS REQUIRE ONGOING MONITORING, USUALLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OR WHENEVER SOMEBODY MOVES OUT OR THEY WANT TO SELL THE UNIT.

AND CURRENTLY WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RECOUPING ENOUGH OF THAT COST.

SO THAT'S HOW IT WOULD APPLY, WOULD JUST INCREASE THE FEES TO MEET WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT MONITORING FOR US.

SO THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY PLACE TO INSERT THIS NEW FEE FOR FOR SALE UNITS.

WHAT ABOUT FOR RENT UNITS. DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE? YEAH. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS THEIR SALARIES.

SO IF THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT, AND THAT UNIT IS BOUND TO REMAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE PERSON MOVING IN MEETS THOSE STANDARDS. SO AGAIN THAT'S ADDITIONAL STAFF OR CONSULTANT TIME THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT VERIFICATION PROCESS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GO BACK. I MEAN, THERE ARE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN OUR CITY.

AND THIS KIND OF JUST SPEAKS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT THE STATE JUST HAS GIVEN US AND WE SEEM TO HAVE LOST THE INVENTORY OF, OF WHAT AFFORDABLE UNITS HAVE BEEN PUT IN OUR CITY AT THIS POINT.

AS FOR RENT. FOR SALE, IT'S AN EASY PLACE FOR US TO MONITOR.

BUT FOR RENT IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR US.

SO AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN PRESERVATION SIDE.

AND SO I, I, I BRING THIS UP I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO THAT WE COULD INCREASE SOME OF THAT HISTORIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK FOR RENT. IF WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH THE COG TO INVENTORY THIS AND NOT AT THE COST OF THE CITY, BUT USING THE MEASURE A LACAHSA FUNDS THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING TO DO JUST THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A BIGGER LIFT FOR US TO GO BACK TO FIND ALL THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR CITY FOR RENT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD START. ARE YOU TALKING UNITS THAT AREN'T DOCUMENTED AS AFFORDABLE? SO IF LET'S SAY WE HAVE AFFORDABLE UNITS MAYBE THAT WERE BUILT TEN YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE.

THEY WERE DESIGNATED AS. THEY WERE DESIGNATED AFFORDABLE.

AND THE DEVELOPER IS MANAGING THAT AND THEY'RE FOR RENT, BUT WHEN SOMEONE MOVES OUT, IS THE DEVELOPER COMING TO OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY AND SAYING, WELL, NOW I HAVE A NEW APPLICATION.

NO ONE'S CHECKING THAT. WELL, I THINK WE GOT A BIGGER, EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE STATE MANDATES.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LET THEM BUILD OVER, EVEN IF IT'S NOT LISTED AS AN AFFORDABLE UNIT.

IF IT IS AFFORDABLE, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SAFEGUARD UNITS THAT ARE ALREADY AFFORDABLE.

AND A LOT OF THOSE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM? COURTYARD TYPE APARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY MEET AFFORDABILITY STANDARDS, BUT THEY'RE NOT DESIGNATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND LOSING THOSE TO TO MARKET RATE. WE ARE. LOOK, THE PART OF THE PRESERVATION IS TO RESCUE THOSE TYPES OF UNITS AND BUILDINGS.

YEAH. BUT HOW DO WE INVENTORY THAT? THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE INVENTORY.

THAT IS INCLUDED IN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT IS INCLUDED IN WHAT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY.

IT'S A HEAVY TASK FOR HER, AND I'M TRYING TO ADVOCATE TO GET SOMETHING ELSE TO HELP HER WITH JUST THAT.

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THE FOSTER YOUTH VOUCHERS. WE GET ADDITIONAL HUD MONEY TO ADMINISTER THOSE VOUCHERS.

IS THERE ADMIN ATTACHED TO THAT MONEY THAT THEY GIVE US? OKAY, GREAT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. OH, LAST QUESTION.

AND IT'S FOR YOU. SO THE REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS PART TIME SALARY.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE IT TO $2, INCREASE $2 AN HOUR.

THAT PART TIME WAGE, IS THAT ENOUGH? IT IS. IT BRINGS US TO MARKET WITH OTHER THEATERS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOSING OUR STAFF TO.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE COMPETING DIRECTLY WITH THEM.

YEAH, WE COULD INCREASE IT A BIT MORE BECAUSE WE WE ESSENTIALLY DON'T PAY FOR THAT.

WE PASS IT THROUGH. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO FIND THAT BALANCE, RIGHT? IF WE INCREASE IT BY TOO MUCH, WE MAY START LOSING OUR ACTUAL DANCE TROUPES AND AND PERFORMANCES, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE THEATERS WHERE. YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, THIS, THIS YEAR. THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO LAND. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC BROUGHT UP BRINGS UP WIDER QUESTION TO ME.

I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED AND CERTAINLY NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FEE.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE A SINKING FUND FOR OUR BUILDINGS? WE DO. AND HOW ARE WE TRACKING THE UNFUNDED, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AND, AND INVESTMENT IN OUR FACILITIES? YEAH, WE HAVE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MAJOR FACILITIES REPAIR FUND THAT WE INCLUDED IN A, IN OUR ISF FORMULA. IT'S WOEFULLY INADEQUATE TO COVER ALL OF OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE COSTS, BUT IT WAS A START AT TRYING TO CREATE A FUNDING SOURCE.

YOU SEE IT IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. IT PERIODICALLY PAYS FOR THINGS LIKE NEW HVAC SYSTEMS OR, YOU KNOW, ROOF REPAIRS, ETC. WE'LL DRAW ON IT FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT NEEDS.

BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GENERATING A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN CAPITAL RESOURCES OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET.

IT'S NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH PERFORMING ARTS. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO, TO, TO TRULY MANAGE ALL OF OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING AN ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO HELP BETTER IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE LONG TERM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE COSTS LOOK LIKE.

AMORTIZED OUT OVER TIME GIVES US AT LEAST A A MORE ACCURATE LOOK AT OUR SHORTFALL, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY. AND WE COULD PERHAPS TRY TO AMORTIZE THAT SPENDING OVER TIME.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NECESSARILY ARE FUNDING AT ITS FULL NEED.

OKAY, I SEE IT AS A NEW ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN THE CIP.

YEAH. YEAH, BUT THAT'S ASSET MANAGEMENT. WE NEED THE ACTUAL WE NEED THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND SYSTEM TO ACTUALLY CATEGORIZE.

AND I SUPPORT THAT. YEAH. WE NEED TO EVENTUALLY DEVELOP THAT. IT'S JUST, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORKS. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER FOR NOW.

OKAY. YEAH. LET ME SEE. I THINK I HAD ONE GO BACK.

OPERATIONALLY RIGHT NOW WE'VE ALLOCATED THE FUNDING FOR SOCIAL MEDIA TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LAST YEAR'S DISCUSSION WAS IT WOULD BE THAT POSITION WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE WHOLE CITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, AT LEAST MY EXPERIENCE IS THE MAJORITY OF POSTS AND, AND OUTREACH TENDS TO FOCUS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY.

AND SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD BE CONSOLIDATING ONE COMMUNICATIONS ORGANIZATION AND WE SHOULDN'T MAKE OUR, OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TO KNOW TO GO TO YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ONE FOR PD AND ONE FOR THE MAIN, THE MAIN CITY AND THEN ONE FOR THAT WE SOMETIMES USE FOR THE HARBOR.

SEEMS WE SHOULD CONSOLIDATE THAT AND MAKE A ONE STOP SHOP AND WE SHOULD BALANCE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOME, SOME VERY GOOD THINGS HERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE IN YEARS, BUT YET THE FOCUS SEEMS TO BE ELSEWHERE ON THE SMALLER, YOU KNOW, GEE WHIZ STUFF. NOT NOT NECESSARILY.

YEAH. AND A LOT FOCUSED ON PD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET RESIDES AND THE PERSON REPORTS THROUGH.

YEAH. THE SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE EMAIL. WE DID A BIT OF FORENSICS KNOWING THIS QUESTION WAS COMING ON, KIND OF HOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENTATION AND MATERIALS HAVE BEEN TRENDING OF LATE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT IN THAT QUEUE.

I KNOW JANE, WHO MANAGES OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT CREATOR, AND THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO BALANCE HER TIME AND ENERGIES AND.

AND WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, WE CAN TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE INITIATIVES AND WHAT'S IN THE QUEUE, BUT I AM STARTING TO SEE, BASED ON THE DATA, MORE MORE SPREAD.

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IT WAS VERY HEAVY EARLY ON IN POLICING MATTERS.

I THINK NOW AND STEVE AND I SPRENGEL, CHIEF SPRENGEL AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. I MEAN, EVEN SOME OF HIS RECENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS HAVE BEEN DENIED BECAUSE HER WORKLOAD IS FOCUSED ON OTHER TASKS. SO WE'RE SEEING MORE BALANCE OCCUR.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO MONITOR THAT EVEN THOUGH THE POSITION IS HOUSED IN PD, IT IS A IS IT A POSITION THAT.

CAN WE JUST MOVE THE BUDGET TO. WELL, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS A AS A ROLE THAT'S MEANT TO SPLIT BETWEEN 50% PD AND 50% CITYWIDE.

SO AND I THINK. EVEN THAT TEAM IS UNBALANCED, RIGHT? ONE DEPARTMENT GETS 50% AND THE WHOLE REST OF THE CITY GETS 50%.

WELL, I MEAN, IT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ACROSS PUBLIC WORKS, ACROSS COMMUNITY SERVICES AND HAVING THEM EACH HAVE THEIR OWN INSTAGRAM AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS SUBOPTIMAL. AND I STILL, I'M, IT'S EMBARRASSING TO GET CALLS FROM RESIDENTS THAT GO, WHY ISN'T THIS ON THE CITY CALENDAR? WELL, SEE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT CREATOR THAT. WELL, NO, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH COMMUNICATIONS.

WELL, THAT'S. WE SHOULD HAVE A CENTRAL. AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER.

COMMUNICATIONS. AND AUTOMATICALLY, IF THERE'S AN EVENT THAT YOU GO TO THE CALENDAR AND THERE SHOULD BE A POST AND THERE SHOULD.

WHICH IS WHICH IS FAIR. AND THAT IS SOMETHING COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS WORKING ON. BUT ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADVERTISE EVENTS THAT ARE NOT CITY GENERATED OR CITY PROGRAMED. RIGHT. WE DON'T ADVERTISE PARTNERSHIP EVENTS WITH NOT FOR PROFITS OR OTHERS WHO MIGHT LEASE SPACE FROM US, USE OUR FACILITIES. WE DON'T. THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE ON OUR CITY CALENDAR.

WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO THE ONLY THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON A CITY CALENDAR IS GOING TO BE A CITY EXCLUSIVE PROGRAM, OR ACTIVITY THAT'S GENERATED AND STAFFED BY OUR PERSONNEL.

SO LIKE MEMORIAL DAY WHERE WE DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING THAT WOULDN'T BE ON OUR.

A MEMORIAL. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TECHNICALLY A NOT FOR PROFIT.

IT'S A TASK FORCE THAT, THAT USES OUR FACILITY.

WE, WE PARTNER WITH THAT, CHARGE THEM FOR THE EVENT.

SO IT'S HEAVILY SPONSORED BY THE CITY. I MEAN, IT'S THAT THAT ONE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IS PERHAPS ONE THAT WE, WE COULD ARGUE IS EFFECTIVELY A CITY EVENT BECAUSE IT'S LARGELY YOU FOLKS AND OTHERS.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THE STUFF BY THE POLICE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN ADVERTISED NOT ON THE CITY WEBSITE, BUT IN OUR INSTAGRAM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT APPLYING THAT.

IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT FILTER IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S FILTERED. AND, AND THOSE EXAMPLES I'D LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE I WOULD ARGUE THAT THOSE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REMAIN HAVE INTEGRITY IN THAT, IN THAT SORT OF DISTANCE, RIGHT? WE CAN'T WE CAN'T PLAY FAVORITES WITH LEASEHOLDERS.

WE CAN'T PLAY FAVORITES WITH NOT FOR PROFITS.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. SO I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED REQUESTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

WHY WASN'T SUCH AND SUCH ACTIVITY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CITY PROGRAM OR ACTIVITY.

A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE THEY'RE CITY EVENTS LIKE SOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE I HAD TO GO AND SAY, HEY, WHERE'S THE STATE OF THE CITY? WELL, THEN IT WAS LISTED AS TOWN HALL.

TOWN HALL. YEAH. SO IT DIDN'T SAY STATE OF THE CITY.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SO THAT'S DIFFERENT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ENDEAVOR TO MAKE SURE IS PART OF OUR EVENT CALENDAR. AND IT JUST SEEMS AS WE'RE CREATING SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, IS IT IN THE CALENDAR? IT SHOULD ALL BE INTEGRATED. AND I HATE HAVING TO HAVE RESIDENTS GO, OH, YOU DIDN'T ADVERTISE THIS? WELL, YOU HAD TO LOOK AT THE POLICE INSTAGRAM OR YOU HAD TO LOOK AT COMMUNITY SERVICES. INSTAGRAM WASN'T ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

WELL, SHARE THOSE EXAMPLES WITH ME. SO I HAVE I HAVE MORE, MORE TANGIBLE FEELING FOR WHAT THOSE ARE AND, AND CAN ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CITY CITY PROGRAMS, THAT WE AREN'T.

THE REASON WE CAN'T MOVE THE BUDGET OVER TO? WELL, THERE'S THERE'S THERE ARE A FEW THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT THERE'S PERSONNEL ASSIGNED TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IMPACTS TO THAT PERSON'S PARTICULAR WORK SCHEDULE, THEIR EXPERIENCE.

THE GOAL. WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE CONTENT, BROADER CONTENT CREATION AND CONTENT CREATION, INTEGRATED CONTENT CREATION IS THAT THAT'S MOVING.

THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT CREATOR FROM PD TO CITY HALL ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE THAT.

THAT INTEGRATION HAS TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND A MORE CONCERTED EFFORT BY ALL THE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVES TO TO SHARE INTERDEPARTMENTALLY OUTWARD.

THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A STAFF ISSUE THAT ALL HAVE TO ADDRESS.

MOVING THE BUDGET OF THE INDIVIDUAL ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE THAT.

I THINK IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED THAT A PERSON WILL DO MORE TOWARDS WHO THEY'RE REPORTING OFFICIAL IS THAN THROUGH THERE.

WELL, TAKE WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, LOOK AT THE INVENTORY I JUST DID. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL TODAY ON THAT, KNOWING THAT YOU WERE COMING BACK. TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT WHAT THE RECENT CONTENT CREATION LOOKS LIKE AND THE BALANCE OF THAT CONTENT CREATION.

AND I, AND IT'S SOMETHING I WILL SHARE WITH THE FULL COUNCIL. SO YOU ALL HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T MOVE THAT BUDGET BECAUSE THE PERSON.

I'M SAYING. CAN'T MOVE THE POSITION. CALLS WITH THE PERSON.

I'M SAYING IF YOU ALL ARE COALESCING AROUND AN OUTCOME, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE LESS THAN 50% OF THE CONTENT OF THAT,

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OF THAT POSITION DEDICATED TO POLICING AND MORE BROADLY ALLOCATED, THEN THAT'S A THAT'S A BUDGET DIRECTION YOU CAN GIVE ME, AND I WILL ENSURE THAT THAT OCCURS ON A ON A PERSONAL BASIS.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE BALANCED ACROSS THE DIVISIONS.

SO, SO 50%, 50% OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR DO YOU THINK SO? YOU SHOULD YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE ALLOCATED BY ALL, ALL DEPARTMENTS EQUALLY SPREAD.

I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET AND THAT'S WHERE THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA AND VIDEO PEOPLE ARE AND THEIR AND THEIR CREATIVE CONTENT PEOPLE ARE. AND THIS CITY WE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE DECIDED TO PUT IT UNDER POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT. BECAUSE THAT'S, OUR FOCUS WAS COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING.

VERY FRAGMENTED IN HOW WE HOW WE OUTREACH. BUT WE HAVE A VERY FORWARD LEANING, COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT OUR THAT OUR RESIDENTS VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.

AND THAT IS A BIG FACTOR IN CREATING THAT CULTURE.

BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT UNDER A CITY.

WELL, IT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT VERSUS A PD SPECIFIC SITE.

WELL, IT'S ALL CITY. I MEAN, IT'S A IT'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PD INSTAGRAM TO SEE THAT STUFF.

YOU GOT TO GO OR FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER. THERE'S A DIFFERENT POLICE ONE FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE A BUNCH OF INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENTS OPERATING ON THEIR OWN.

AND THERE'S A LACK OF INTEGRATION ACROSS THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, MAYBE MAYBE WE CAN TALK MORE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR RESIDENTS ARE STRUGGLING TO GET TO PARTICULAR CONTENT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO KNOW TO GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE VERSUS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT MEDIA PAGE.

THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY FOR US TO INTEGRATE THAT UNDER A SINGULAR LOCATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE. WHY WE WOULDN'T BE CROSS SHARING POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTENT WITH THE CITY'S SAME INSTAGRAM PAGE.

ORGANIZATIONAL PERFORMANCE, NOT JUST TO THE CITY, BUT YOU DO WHAT YOUR BOSS, THE BOSS YOU REPORT TO AND YOU FOCUS ON.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT SENTIMENT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE THE RECENT MATERIAL THAT THAT WAS SENT TO YOU REGARDING CURRENT PRODUCT PRODUCTION IN THAT AREA.

I THINK I THINK YOU'D SEE MORE BALANCE. YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN THERE I STILL MAY PROPOSE MOVING THAT BUDGET BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE DIRECTION BECAUSE HOPEFULLY WE START MAKING MORE MONEY AND WE WANT TO DO BETTER COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH.

AND WE I THINK, ELIZABETH, YOU YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE GRAPHIC ARTISTS IS THAT I DON'T SEE IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE WHO DO GRAPHIC DESIGN AND THEY'RE AND THEY DID THE FROG, THE FROG POSTER DOWN. SO JUST BY THE NATURE OF WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT DOES, AND BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAVE ALMOST OVER 200 PART TIMERS AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, WE HAVE OVER TIME EVOLVED TWO OF OUR PART TIMERS TO BE MORE GRAPHIC DESIGN ORIENTED.

AND SO WHEN WE HIRE FOR THOSE POSITIONS, WE TRY TO FIND PART TIMERS THAT HAVE A GRAPHIC DESIGN BACKGROUND.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY AS CITY GRAPHIC DESIGNERS, THEY'RE JUST PART TIMERS WITHIN OUR PROGRAM.

A LOT OF THEIR WORK FOCUSES ON GRAPHIC DESIGN, BUT THEY ALSO DO OTHER RECREATION ORIENTED ACTIVITIES AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEVELOPING THESE CAPABILITIES IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT EQUALLY AVAILABLE ACROSS THE KNOW BECAUSE, I MEAN, THOSE POSITIONS ARE NEEDED TO SUPPORT RECREATION SERVICES.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. AND I THINK A GOOD EXAMPLE TOO, COULD BE WE HAVE REDONDO BEACH TEENS, RIGHT? AND THEY, THEY POST EVERY WEEK WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TEEN CENTER.

BUT IT'S ONLY ON THAT PAGE, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE CITY PAGE.

SO IF I WANT TO REPOST THAT, I HAVE TO GO TO THEIR PAGE TO SHARE IT.

SO LIKE THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WE SHOULD DO, WE SHOULD BE BOTH.

IT SHOULD BE THE CITY AND REDONDO BEACH TEENS.

YEAH. OR, OR THE LIBRARY. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR SCHEDULE FOR THE WEEK.

SAME THING. THAT THAT SEEMS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BARRIER WOULD THAT FOR THAT IS.

IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I CAN FOLLOW ON WITH OR FOLLOW UP ON WITH OUR TEAM. IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE EASY TO HAVE EACH OF THOSE ACTIVITIES RESHARED UNDERNEATH THE CITY'S BROAD HEADER. IF THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY DIFFICULT FIX TO ME.

I DON'T THINK IT HAS MUCH TO DO WITH ORGANIZATIONAL COORDINATION.

YEAH, THAT COULD BE ON THE CITY'S CALENDAR AS WELL, BECAUSE THE CITY CALENDAR DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THE TEEN CENTER IT'S GOT SENIOR EXCURSIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOT THE LUNCHES.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES THAT'S NOT ON THE CITY CALENDAR.

IT MIGHT BE IN THE DEPARTMENT CALENDAR. RIGHT.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS A QUESTION ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SATURATION ISSUE, IF SOME PEOPLE WANT TO BE DEDICATED TO DIFFERENT THINGS, THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POLICE CONTENT, BUT THEY REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE TEEN CENTER. I DON'T KNOW.

SO YOU CAN'T YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.

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YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SITE TO, I WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LIBRARY.

SO I GOT TO FIND THE LIGHT WHERE THE LIBRARY ADVERTISES.

OH, NO, I'M INTERESTED IN HISTORY. SO I GOT TO GO FIND THAT SITE.

OH, NO. I WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT A PARK.

I GOT TO GO TO A COMMUNITY. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THIS STUFF.

I IT. WELL, I THINK THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN. I KNOW JANE AND DANNY ARE WORKING ON OPTIONS.

IS THERE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE WHERE YOU CLICK AND HERE'S EVERYTHING BASED ON THE FEEDS AND THE HITS YOU GET FOR THE PD PAGE.

SHOULD THERE BE AN EXCLUSIVE PD SIREN AND ALL THAT? AND YOU GO AND CLICK THERE. BUT I MEAN, LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO CAPTURE WHAT'S BEING SAID.

HERE IS A ONE STOP SHOP. I WILL SAY, AND I DID KIND OF SHARE THE.

MAYOR'S CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHARED TIME WITH THE PD.

I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE LIST. THERE WERE A LOT OF NON PD THINGS THAT HAPPENED WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA COORDINATOR.

WE HAD THE, WELL WHERE'S DANA? WE HAD THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY EXPRESS HOURS PROGRAM RIBBON CUTTING THAT WAS HEAVILY ATTENDED.

THERE HE IS. THANK YOU SIR. THAT WAS A GREAT ONE.

DANNY WAS THERE. BROWN FRIDAY RBPSA WAS ANOTHER.

ALTA VISTA PICKLEBALL COURT RIBBON CUTTING. RIGHT? WHAT ELSE? WE HAD WILDERNESS PARK RIBBON CUTTING, THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BIKEWAY EXTENSION.

I COULD GO THROUGH THE LIST, BUT THERE'S A SINGLE RESOURCE.

I THOUGHT WE GOT AN EMAIL. WAS IT LATE LAST WEEK? LAID OUT STATISTICS? I FOUND IT HELPFUL. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU AND THE STAFF CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THE BEST WAY WHERE WE CAN SAY, HERE'S REDONDO BEACH, HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND IF YOU KNOW, IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR TOPIC, HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S A WEB PAGE OR INSTAGRAM, I'LL LET THE PROFESSIONALS FIGURE IT OUT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SENSING HERE. AND I SORT OF AGREE. YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE BACK TO LIFE.

RIGHT. YEAH. THE SHORT OF IT IS WE UNDERSTAND THE FEEDBACK.

IF THAT IF CENTRALIZED COORDINATION AND EVENTS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL WILL, WILL MAKE THAT A PRIORITY TO FIND A WAY TO RESOLVE.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED BUDGET ACTION FOR US TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF US JUST ADMINISTERING TO THAT GOAL.

AND IF THAT'S CLEARLY WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT BARRIERS TO THAT. MAYBE THERE'S A TECHNICAL BARRIER. MAYBE THERE'S AN INTER-DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION BARRIER, WHATEVER IT IS. IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'D ALL LIKE TO SEE, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO FIX THAT.

YEAH. AT LEAST EXPLORE IT, YOU KNOW. THANKS. OKAY.

I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT THERE'S A REASON ORGANIZATION, CENTRALIZED COMMUNICATIONS, AND OUTWARD REACH FOR THE PUBLIC. AND THAT'S BECAUSE INTEGRATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO GET THAT EFFECTIVE IS TOUGHER THAN THAN CENTRALIZING IT.

THE ONE OTHER THING I THINK OPERATIONALLY I'M CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET RELATED TO TRAINING FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, NOT JUST WHAT'S THE CITY PROCESS, BUT HOW DO YOU BECOME A GOOD PROGRAM MANAGER? WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR? WHAT DO YOU DO? HOW DO YOU WRITE A GOOD CONTRACT? NOT WHAT IS THE FORMS YOU GOT TO FILL OUT? AND THAT SEEMS TO YOU KNOW, WE THE WHOLE THING WITH PEPPERDINE FELL APART AND THE WHOLE. AND I KNOW JANE HAS PUT TOGETHER SOME TRAINING SPECIFICALLY ON SOME OF THE CONTRACT STUFF AND THE PROCESS, BUT NOT THE GOOD. WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES FOR DOING STUFF? HOW DO YOU WRITE A STATEMENT OF WORK AND TIED TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.

BUT THAT WHOLE, THAT WHOLE SIDE OF WHY YOU DO IT AND HOW YOU BECOME HOW YOU DO BEST PRACTICES IS, IS GONE FROM THE CURRENT TRAINING. AND I DON'T SEE A BUDGET FOR THAT.

NO, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE INTEGRATING INTO OUR NATURAL FOLLOW UP PROCESS.

SO OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT GOAL IS TO TACKLE OUR RFB REQUEST FOR BID TEMPLATE, WHICH HAS BEEN PRETTY STATIC FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE REVIEWING THAT INTERNALLY. WE WANT TO HELP TRAIN TO DIFFERENT STANDARDS ON THAT DOCUMENT, CREATE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE. WE HAVE JANE AND JOYCE TEAM HAVE WORKED HARD TO HAVE AND HOST SEVERAL INTERNAL CONTRACT MANAGEMENT TRAINING SESSIONS HERE IN THIS ROOM.

THOSE WILL CONTINUE AND THEY WILL EVOLVE TO WORK TOWARDS TIGHTER STATEMENTS OF WORK, CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN COMPENSATION SCHEDULES AND STATEMENTS OF WORK.

SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE HAVE ON THE LIST TO DO.

IT'S, IT'S, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED ONE TIME APPROPRIATION TO DO IT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITH IN-HOUSE RESOURCES AS BEST WE CAN AND SEEK SOME SUPPLEMENTAL ASSISTANCE ON THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S AVAILABLE.

YEAH. MY CONCERN THERE IS, WE ARE LACKING IN DISCIPLINE IN BOTH ACQUISITION CONTRACTS MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BAD PEOPLE.

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I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TRAINED ON HOW HOW TO DO IT.

AND YOU CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO JUST, YOU KNOW, DO A BEST PRACTICE FROM WITHOUT ANY TRAINING OR EXPOSURE TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE AND WHY. AND IT CONTINUES TO, YOU KNOW, JUST CONTINUES.

I CAN RATTLE OFF THE, THE STUFF THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND YOU SEE THE ESCAPES AND THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT AND SOME THAT YOU CAN'T FIX BECAUSE THE CONTRACT WASN'T WRITTEN RIGHT AND THE RFP WASN'T WRITTEN RIGHT FOR THE DELIVERABLES.

AND WE CONTINUALLY GET PROJECTS DELIVERED OVER BUDGET, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRACEABILITY ON AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLICLY VISIBLE ON WHY SOME OF THESE COSTS HAVE DOUBLED.

AND IT'S TAKING US YEARS LONGER THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED FOR A CONTRACT EXECUTION.

AND I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO DO THAT BETTER. I THINK IT TIES TO WHY WE DON'T HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCIPLINE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

INVESTMENT PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT TIES DELIVERABLE DATES TO THOSE THINGS.

WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING BY WHAT CONTRACT OR WHAT PHASE YOU'RE IN.

WE DON'T HAVE WHERE WE'RE AT IN FUNDING. AND WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE AT COMPLETE? WE HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT I JUST HAPPENED TO COMPARE THE TO.

IT MORE THAN DOUBLED IN PRICE FROM ONE CIP TO THE NEXT.

AND THERE'S NO NO EXPLANATION ON WHY IT DOUBLED.

AND SO THAT THAT LACK OF DISCIPLINE, VISIBILITY, TRANSPARENCY AND, AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON LEADS TO DISTRUST AND, AND LACK OF CONFIDENCE. AND I BELIEVE IN SOME CASES IT'S DRIVING US.

WE COULD BE DOING MORE WITH LESS IF WE DO IT RIGHT.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT'S NOT THAT'S BEEN BACK BURNERED FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH PEPPERDINE.

AND IT'S TOUGH TO DO IT WITH INTERNAL RESOURCES BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT OTHER ASSIGNMENTS.

SO I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NO BUDGET ALLOCATED FOR THAT, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO IMPACT FUTURE BUDGETS BECAUSE UNTIL WE GET THAT DISCIPLINE AND THOSE BEST PRACTICES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TO SLIP CONTRACTS, MAKE MAKE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ISSUES THAT WE COULD HAVE RESOLVED IF WE IF WE HAD THE PROPER TRAINING AND WROTE THE RIGHT CONTRACTS AND WROTE THE RIGHT RFPS.

SO. I GUESS THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR THAT OTHER THAN EXISTING STAFF WHENEVER THEY GET TIME.

THERE'S NO SCHEDULE. YEAH, WE ALL WE CAN DO IS, IS, IS WORK INTERNALLY TO LEVERAGE WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE TO, TO TRY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THOSE OUTCOMES.

YOU KNOW, THE CIP IS A, IS A BUDGET DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A, A PROJECT, REAL TIME PROJECT MANAGEMENT TRACKING DOCUMENT.

I DO HAVE A REAL TIME EYE, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THE BUDGET IN THE CIP IS VERY GENERIC AT TIMES.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN EVOLUTION OF PRICING AND COST BASED ON WHATEVER PHASE OF THAT PROJECT WE'RE IN, AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE DELIVERED FOR THE CIP.

AND IN SOME INSTANCES, IT'S IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WE MAY NOT AT THE TIME OF THE CIP, AS WE'RE SETTING ASIDE APPROPRIATIONS, REALLY HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATED GUESS FOR YOU. IN SOME CASES, THE BACK END OF THAT PLAN IS, IS JUST THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO WITH THE REVISED SCOPES IS ENSURE THAT THE THAT 10 TO 15 PROJECTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE EXECUTING IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL HAVE SPECIFIC DATES. AS YOU KNOW, WE MAY DESIGN 20 TO 25 A YEAR AND BUILD 15 TO 20 A YEAR.

SO THE 88 OR 89 OR 90 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CIP AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A VERY REFINED SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE JUST NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING ON THEM RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S FINE. BUT THEN WE KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S SCHEDULED.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL HERE WE'VE PROJECTED AND WE DIDN'T DELIVER.

AND I'M AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT OUR OUR UPDATED SCOPE OF WORK AND THE PROJECT DESCRIPTIONS WILL REFLECT MORE OF THAT.

AND AS WE SETTLE INTO THIS NEW FORMAT, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE BETTER COMPARATIVE INFORMATION YEAR OVER YEAR TO SHOW THAT CHANGE.

WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT GOES THROUGH THIS, AND THERE ARE BETTER EXAMPLES OF COMMUNICATING TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHY. WELL, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WE'RE BUILDING MORE PROJECTS THAN WE EVER HAD IN THE PAST OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AT MUCH HIGHER RATES, AT MUCH GREATER SPENDING.

SO ON A BROAD METRIC BASIS, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EFFICACY HAS BEEN 2 TO 3 TIMES WHAT IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY, PERIOD. I MEAN, THAT'S A FLAT FACT. I'M SAYING WHEN WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT'S NOT HAPPENING, COSTS GO UP WITHOUT ANY REAL TRACKING.

I CAN'T GO TO A WHERE'S THE CHANGE ORDER? WELL, YOU GET IT.

I MEAN, YOU GET IT IN ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS. YOU GET ALL THE TRACKING AND ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS, YOU GET THE FULL. YOU GET THE FULL RECONCILIATION WHEN YOU APPROVE AND ACCEPT THE PROJECT AS COMPLETE. EVERY SINGLE CHANGE ORDER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

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AFTER IT'S DONE. NOT WHEN IT'S HAPPENING. WELL, YOU GET IT IN REAL TIME IF IT REQUIRES COUNCIL ACTION.

I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE PROACTIVE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PROJECT IS IN TROUBLE.

AND HERE'S WHY. IT'S NOT THROUGH MISMANAGEMENT, BECAUSE WHETHER OR CONSTRUCTION COSTS WENT UP OR SOME ACT OF GOD OR SOMETHING.

AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO IMPUGN ANYONE.

I'M TRYING TO GET US TO WHERE WE'RE PRODUCING BETTER.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE MORE VISIBLE TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE, AND TO THE COUNCIL.

I KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD FRUSTRATIONS WHERE WE THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS GETTING DONE, AND A YEAR LATER, IT'S STILL IN THE SAME PLACE. I MEAN, LOOK AT MOLE B, THE MOLE B MASTER PLAN.

WE HAD FUNDING FOR THAT. THAT COULD HAVE FUNDED SOMETHING MUCH BETTER BACK THEN THAN WE HAVE TODAY.

AND NOW IT'S NOT EVEN FUNDED. AND IT HAD FUNDING BACK THEN.

AND THE ONLY REASON WE DISCOVERED THAT WAS SOMEBODY ASKED.

IT DIDN'T SAY UNFUNDED GO FROM FUNDED TO UNFUNDED.

IT WENT FROM MOLE B FUNDED TO DREDGING FUNDED.

I MEAN, YEAH, BUT THERE WAS NO. THE MONEY WAS NEEDED ELSEWHERE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO ANYWAY, NOT TRYING TO IMPUGN ANYONE'S INTEGRITY OR CAPABILITY, I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

AND IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T TAKE TIME TO TO TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THE SAME STUFF.

MAYOR, IF I COULD INTERJECT, THIS MAY BE A GOOD TIME FOR A SHORT BREAK TO RELIEVE THE STUDENTS FROM REDONDO UNION, MAYBE RETURN AT NINE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROBUST.

ANYWAY, I'LL MAKE A. UNLESS YOU HAVE A REAL STRONG OBJECTION, I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION FOR A SIX MINUTE BREAK.

RETURN AT 9 P.M. I'M A LITTLE RETICENT IN THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE HERE PROBABLY WAITING TO TESTIFY ON THIS, AND MAYBE WE COULD GET THE TESTIMONY THEN THAT COULD GO ON FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTENDING TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM.

OTHERS NOT THAT THAT MANY. WOULD YOU MIND IF WE TOOK A BREAK FOR THE STUDENTS? NO. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO RETURN AT 9 P.M..

MOTION. SECOND. OKAY, MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY. PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, WE'RE CONTINUING BACK ON ITEM L2.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE LEFT ON THE COUNCIL WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, AND SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

I DO HAVE SOME CARDS. FIRST IS DON FORD AND SECOND IS JIM MUELLER.

JIM MUELLER LEFT. OKAY, I'LL TAKE HIS TIME TOO.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY. CAN'T DO IT. CAN'T DO THAT. WELL ANYWAYS, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR LIGHT, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. I'M HERE.

DON FORD, REPRESENTING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I'M CURRENTLY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE REDONDO BEACH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL 10K AND OUR PARTNERSHIP OVER THE MANY YEARS TO KEEP THAT EVENT GOING. IT IS ALMOST 50 YEARS OLD. IT HAS HAD A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL TRADITION.

AND I JUST WANT TO START BY THANKING ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THIS LAST YEAR.

BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD YET ANOTHER ADDITION.

WE DID SOME NEW THINGS THIS YEAR. WE DID OUR VERY BEST TO REDUCE COSTS.

WE DIDN'T USE THE SEASIDE LAGOON BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE.

WE DID OUR BEST TO CUT DOWN EXPENSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT. WE HAD, I THINK, 5800 RUNNERS THIS YEAR.

THAT'S MORE THAN WE'VE HAD SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MONEY THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF THE FUNCTIONS OF OUR CHAMBER.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT AND WE ARE A SMALL CHAMBER.

WE ARE NOT THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. YOU KNOW, WITH FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, WE HAVE NORTHROP AS A MEMBER, AND THEN WE HAVE LOTS OF SMALL BUSINESSES. AND WE RELY ON THAT 10K TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING WE DO, OUR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS, OUR OUTREACH, OUR NETWORKING.

A LOT OF THOSE THINGS DEPEND. SO THE PROBLEM WE'RE RUNNING INTO LIKE YOU IS THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING UP IN PRICE EXCEPT THE REVENUE. SO EVERYTHING'S COSTING MORE. AND NOW WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT YOU WANT TO START CHARGING US TO USE THE STREET.

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YOU KNOW, A 10K, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LOOPED ROUTE, WOULD PROBABLY BE AN ADDITIONAL $24,000 OR SO.

AND AT THREE MILES TIMES $8000. AND FRANKLY, IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT SURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUT ON THIS MAJOR EVENT WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING ANY MONEY.

OTHERWISE REALLY, IT'S, NOT DOABLE. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR SOME KIND OF A WAIVER.

WE'RE A SMALL NONPROFIT, MAYBE CARVE OUT AN EXCEPTION FOR NONPROFITS.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME HELP ON THE SUBSIDY SINCE EVERYTHING'S GOING UP IN PRICE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE A BETTER SUBSIDY.

WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU. THIS IS A GREAT EVENT THAT HELPS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? SURE. YES. OH.

I'M SORRY. YES. SO DID YOU RAISE YOUR PRICES FOR THE RACE LAST YEAR? WE RAISED PRICES TWO YEARS AGO. TWO YEARS AGO.

AND WE LOST SEVERAL HUNDRED RUNNERS AS A RESULT.

SO THAT WAS IN WHAT, 2024? YEAH, 20. YEAH, FOR THE 25 RACE WE DID RAISE.

WHAT WAS THE INCREASE? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FIGURE.

MAYBE MODDA CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU, BUT THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW FAR YOU CAN RAISE PRICES BEFORE YOU START LOSING RUNNERS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN THE END, YOU DON'T END UP WITH ANY MORE MONEY.

AND DID THE NUMBERS INCREASE THIS LAST YEAR? THEY DID.

THEY DID. AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. LINA CARRILLO AND THEN MICKEY JOHNSON.

OKAY, I'M PUTTING ON A DIFFERENT HAT. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

LINA CARRILLO, PRESIDENT OF THE PROFESSIONAL SUPERVISORY ASSOCIATION PSA.

I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED 26-27 BUDGET AND AS WELL AS BRR 11 VACANCIES UNDER AB 2561.

SO PSA IS THE GROUP THAT COMPRISES THE MID-LEVEL MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS, ALONG WITH PROFESSIONAL STAFF SUCH AS ENGINEERS, PLANNERS, ANALYSTS. IN FACT, MOST OF THE BRR'S YOU'RE REVIEWING WERE LIKELY PREPARED BY A PSA EMPLOYEE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE DATA YOU BASE YOUR DECISIONS ON IS DIRECTLY PROVIDED BY PSA EMPLOYEES.

OUT OF THE EIGHT EMPLOYEE GROUPS LISTED IN BRR 11, RBPSA HAS THE HIGHEST VACANCY PERCENTAGE AT 14.4.

IF YOU REFER TO LAST YEAR'S BRR PSA HAD THE EXACT SAME VACANCY RATE.

OTHER BARGAINING UNITS VACANCY RATES ALL IMPROVED OVER THAT LAST YEAR, YET PSA HAS NOT BUDGED.

PSA IS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE GROUP FOR WHICH THE CITY MADE NO PROGRESS IN IMPROVING THAT VACANCY RATE.

THE CITY DOES HAVE DIFFICULTY RECRUITING AND RETAINING THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL EMPLOYEES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR PLANNING DIVISION THEY WERE FINALLY AT FULL STAFFING LEVELS AS OF THIS MARCH, AFTER ALMOST THREE YEARS OF REPEATED VACANCIES AND KIND OF CYCLING THROUGH STAFF.

HOWEVER, NOW A PLANNER THAT JUST BARELY STARTED LAST FALL IS ALREADY LEAVING FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY LATER THIS WEEK.

SO AND THEN WITH DECISION PACKAGE 32, WHICH INSTITUTES A FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE REMAINING PSA EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WILL BE TAKING ON ADDITIONAL WORK TO MAKE UP FOR THE EXTENDED VACANCIES.

SO THE FACT DOES REMAIN PSA SALARY RANGES ARE INCREDIBLY BELOW MARKET.

PSA RECEIVED THE LOWEST SALARY PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF THE FOUR BARGAINING UNITS IN THE LAST ROUND OF MOU NEGOTIATIONS THREE YEARS AGO.

FOUR SETS OF EMPLOYEE MOU'S EXPIRE THIS DECEMBER.

YET THE PROPOSED BUDGET MAKES NO MENTION OF THE UPCOMING NEGOTIATIONS AND HOW THE CITY PLANS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR ANY POTENTIAL SALARY RANGE INCREASES.

AND THIS IS CONCERNING. SO EMPLOYEES FEEL LIKE HOW CAN THEY BELIEVE THAT THE CITY WILL NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WHEN THE ONE PIVOTAL CITY DOCUMENT THAT'S MEANT TO ADDRESS ALL PRIORITIES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR MAKES ZERO MENTION OF REQUIRED EMPLOYEE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS? SO PSA DOES EXPECT THAT THE CITY IS APPROPRIATELY PLANNING FOR ANY POTENTIAL SALARY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR.

WE ALREADY RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY HAVE ITS CONSULTANT UPDATE THE COMPENSATION STUDY FROM THREE YEARS AGO, IN ORDER TO FULLY UNDERSTAND REDONDO'S PLACE IN THE MARKET AS OF TODAY.

SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DATA DRIVEN DISCUSSIONS AS IT RELATES TO EMPLOYEE SALARIES.

PSA IS PREPARED TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS AS SOON AS NEXT MONTH TO GIVE US ALL ADEQUATE TIME FOR DISCUSSIONS BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER.

IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO MENTION PAGE 37 OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET STATES THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL BELIEVE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE THE CITY'S MOST VALUABLE ASSET.

WE HOPE OUR UPCOMING NEGOTIATIONS REFLECT THIS BELIEF.

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THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, DOES THE BUDGET ACCOUNT FOR INCREASES IN PAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE THIS YEAR? SCHEDULED INCREASES. I'M SORRY. CONTRACTUAL AND SCHEDULED INCREASES.

BUT NOT NEGOTIATIONS FOR NOW. NOT NEGOTIATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MICKEY. AND THEN MYRA SANTOS.

GOOD EVENING. YOU KNOW, MICKEY JOHNSON. AND I MET MICKEY JOHNSON.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. SOMETIMES I SAY IT TOO.

MICKEY JOHNSON. I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING YOUR BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT YOU DECIDE DIRECTLY SHAPES THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

NORTH REDONDO BEACH HAS TREMENDOUS UNTAPPED POTENTIAL.

OUR BUSINESSES ARE RESILIENT, OUR RESIDENTS ARE ENGAGED, AND OUR LOCATION IS PRIME.

WHAT'S BEEN MISSING IS INVESTMENT AND MORE PARTNERSHIP.

NRBBA HAS FORMED A DEDICATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE, STAFFED BY OUR MEMBERS WITH DEEP EXPERTISE IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ATTRACT BUSINESS, INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC, AND REVITALIZE CORRIDORS. AND WE WANT TO PUT THAT EXPERTISE TO WORK FOR OUR CITY.

WE WANT TO BE A RESOURCE. WE ARE READY TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNCIL AND STAFF ON A VISION FOR ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION IN NORTH REDONDO.

ONE AREA WHERE THAT WORK CAN BEGIN IMMEDIATELY IS AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT.

STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING HAS NOT TOUCHED NORTH REDONDO SINCE 2017, ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS RIGHT NOW TELLING US THEY WANT TO PAINT MURALS, REFRESH THEIR FACADES, AND INVEST IN THEIR STOREFRONTS. THEY WANT TO BE PROUD OF WHAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY WALK OR DRIVE BY, BUT THEY NEED A PROGRAM PARTNER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S TIME TO BRING THE STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BACK TO NORTH REDONDO.

THIS $60,000 PROGRAM IS ONLY 0.05% OF THE ENTIRE $130 MILLION GENERAL FUND.

RESTORING ACCESS TO STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT FUNDING IN NORTH REDONDO ISN'T JUST ABOUT PAINT AND SIGNAGE IT'S A SIGNAL TO BUSINESS OWNERS, TO INVESTORS AND TO RESIDENTS THAT THIS CITY BELIEVES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

NRBBA IS HERE. WE'RE ORGANIZED. WE'RE READY. WE ASK THAT AS YOU BUILD THIS BUDGET, YOU CONSIDER NORTH REDONDO BEACH AS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY, NOW I'M PUTTING ON A DIFFERENT HAT. MICKEY JOHNSON RESIDENT AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME CENTRALIZED SOCIAL MEDIA SO WE CAN FIND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY THEMSELVES.

THEY HAVE OVER 30,000 FOLLOWERS. THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND THE CITY CAN DO A GREAT JOB TOO.

BUT I AGREE IT NEEDS TO ALL BE IN ONE PLACE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. MARA SANTOS AND THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.

I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO INCREASE OUR FEE WAIVER FOR SUPER BOWL 10K.

AS THIS PAST TWO YEARS, OUR SAFETY MEASURES HAVE DOUBLED THE COST IN OUR EVENT TOGETHER, BUT ALSO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THIS NEW PROPOSED USAGE OF STREET FEES AND MAYOR I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR REALLY OPENING A DISCUSSION.

AND YOUR CONCERN FOR OUR SMALL, NOT ONLY BUSINESSES, BUT THE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE BEEN PUTTING EVENTS TOGETHER HERE IN REDONDO FOR A VERY LONG TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YEARS, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS EVENT FOR 50 YEARS, BRINGING ECONOMIC SUPPORT TO THE AREA. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE DOING THAT EVENT.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERPRICED OUT. AND YES, IF WE HAVE TO PAY PER MILEAGE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE NOT ONLY WITH THE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE DOING THE EVENTS.

YES, NIKE IS ABLE TO PAY THOSE FEES. AND I BELIEVE YOU KNOW, THEM COMING ONCE IN A WHILE HERE AND DOING THE EVENTS THEY SHOULD BE PAYING.

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IF I MAY SUGGEST MAYBE GRANDFATHERING AN EXEMPTION FOR ALL OF THE LOCAL NONPROFITS THAT WE ARE HERE TO REALLY SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE EVENT.

IT WILL BE A HUGE, HUGE SUPPORT FROM, YOU GUYS.

AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAD.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF MARK HANSEN TWO HATS TONIGHT, KING HARBOR BOATER AND MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A SUBMISSION RELATIVE TO THE BUDGET TONIGHT.

MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND, ALL FOR IT.

AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. OKAY. FIRST HAT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

FOR 25, 26 YEARS NOW, I'VE BEEN BEFORE VARIOUS CITY COUNCILS REPRESENTING VARIOUS OF OUR NON-PROFITS AND THEIR CONCERNS WITH THEIR MODEST BUDGETS.

BESIDES THE CHAMBER, I'M A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE KIWANIS.

I'M A MEMBER OF KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB, WHICH IS A NOT FOR PROFIT. I'M ON THE BOAT PARADE COMMITTEE, THE CURE CANCER CUP REGATTA. SO I DO A LOT OF THAT FUN STUFF.

AND OVER THE YEARS I'VE COME BEFORE YOU TO MENTION TO BE CAUTIOUS.

IT'S SO EASY TO ADD FEES AND ADD FEES AND ADD FEES.

SEAFAIR AND BOAT PARADE OVER THE YEARS WENT FROM $300 TO $600 TO $1,200 TO ALMOST $2,000.

AND EACH YEAR YOU GUYS WOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, NO, NO, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO PRICE THESE GOOD THINGS OUT OF EXISTENCE.

AND YOU WOULD BUMP THE WAIVER UP TO MATCH WHAT WE WERE PAYING IN FEES SO WE COULD GO OUT AND DO THE GOOD THINGS WE'RE DOING.

I WANT TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I WAS JUST KIND OF GLANCING AT MY COMPUTER AT ALL THE AMAZING THINGS.

I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE A FEW YEARS, BUT LUNCHES, MIXERS, RIBBON CUTTINGS, BUSINESS BREAKFAST, PUBLISHED THE GUIDE TO REDONDO BEACH, PUBLISHED A BUSINESS DIRECTORY, SIX COMMITTEES THAT HELP OUT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES SUPPORT OR RUN ANNUAL EVENTS.

STATE OF THE CITY COMMUNITY AWARDS, SUPER BOWL 5K, 10K, WOMEN'S CONFERENCE, SENIOR DANCE, LIFEGUARD, MEDAL OF VALOR, AND MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION.

THAT'S A HECK OF A LIST WHEN I STARTED TYPING IT, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WOULD LOOK THAT IMPRESSIVE WHEN I WAS DONE.

SO I WILL LEAVE THE NEGOTIATIONS TO MY CHAIR AND MY CEO.

BUT I CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE YOU, AND I THINK LISTENING TO YOU ALL GET IT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO PRICE OUR LOCAL THINGS OUT OF EXISTENCE.

SWAPPING HEADS, REAL HATS HERE ON THE BUDGET TONIGHT, I SENT YOU ALL AND MADE IT AND GAVE YOU A PRINTOUT.

OF COURSE, THAT'S IN THE BOATING COMMUNITY WERE CONCERNED WHEN WE READ A DECISION PACKAGE 30 THAT WAS PROPOSING TO GET RID OF THE WATERFRONT DIRECTOR AND CREATE THIS NEW POSITION OF WATERFRONT PROPERTIES AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR POSITION.

THERE'S LISTENING TO THE MAYOR IN PARTICULAR TONIGHT, AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER, MIKE WITZANSKY, FOR CHATTING WITH ME ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY.

BUT EVEN AFTER CHATTING WITH HIM AND CHATTING WITH ELIZABETH HAUSE, I STILL, AS OF TODAY, WAS CONFUSED AND TALKING WITH CHAD I THINK WE WERE BOTH STILL CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THE INTENT WAS.

THE WORD TEMPORARY WASN'T IN THIS. I NEVER HEARD THE WORD TEMPORARY UNTIL TONIGHT.

AND THEN LISTENING TO THE MANAGER, HE SAYS, OH, IF IT'S TEMPORARY, WE CAN PROBABLY LIVE WITH THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF DEFER TO MY MAYOR, WHO ALWAYS LOOKS OUT FOR THE HARBOR.

AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE HARBOR AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ONLINE? YES, I HAVE TWO. MARK NELSON. GO AHEAD MARK.

ALL RIGHT. IN THE SPIRIT OF HELP YOU NEED TO MEASURE TO IMPROVE.

AND YOU GUYS CAME IN 100% LATE ON YOUR TIME BUDGET FOR YOUR BREAK.

SO THERE YOU GO. I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE TWO BRR MOCKUPS THAT I SENT IN.

THEY CONTINUE TO BE FOR 500, 600 PROSPECT AND PAULINA FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, IS THE SAFETY AND SOUND WALL.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS THREE SINUSOIDAL SPEED TABLES ON BIG PROSPECT.

THE NUMBER MIGHT BE FOUR. I DON'T KNOW. I HAD A UNIVERSITY LOOK AT IT AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH THREE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. BOTH OF THEM ALSO COME WITH SORT OF 50% ESTIMATES.

SO THEIR INDICATIVE COSTS AT BEST. THE ASK IS REALLY TO DO THE OBAGI-ESK MOVE AND PUT THEM IN A $0 SO THAT THEY GET CARRIED IN THE BUDGET AND ALSO SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

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BY HAVING THEM IN THE BUDGET TO GO FOR GRANTS OR TO TRY TO GET BEACH CITIES OR SUNRISE TO HAVE TO FORK OVER SOME OF IT AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S CLEARLY GOING TO BE VERY DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET THAT IN. I'M TRANSITIONING OUT OF SORT OF THE ADVOCACY ROLE HERE.

I'M MOVING OVER TO SORT OF PURE TESTIMONY AND EXPERT WITNESS.

I'M PUTTING TOGETHER THE QALY, WHICH IS THE QUALITY ADJUSTED LIFE YEARS ALONG WITH THE VSL'S, WHICH MOST OF US CALL THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE CALCULATIONS INSTEAD OF VALUE OF A STATISTICAL LIFE.

SO THAT I CAN MONETIZE WITH GREAT SPECIFICITY THE DAMAGES FROM THE NOISE AND THE EMISSIONS AND THE OTHER IMPACTS OF THE ROADWAY, AND THE LACK OF HAVING A SOUND AND SAFETY WALL, ALONG WITH THE EXCESSIVE SPEED. THE 85% SPEED IS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 42, 43, 44 ON PROSPECT.

AND THAT'S A 35 SO WE'VE KIND OF GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO JUST WANTED TO TO GET THAT IN. I GAVE YOU IN THE BLUE FOLDER A COUPLE OF AGAIN, A COUPLE OF MOCKUPS FOR THIS FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO AT LEAST CARRY THEM ALONG.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WAITED A LONG TIME. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY A VERY SIGNIFICANT MONETARY DAMAGES BURDEN THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABSORBING, AND IT'S TIME THAT THEY GET PROTECTED FROM IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

DARRYL BOYD. GO AHEAD. DARRYL. GOOD EVENING. DARRYL BOYD DISTRICT 3, 39 YEAR RESIDENT.

33 YEAR HOMEOWNER, LIFETIME SOUTH BAY RESIDENT.

TONIGHT, WE LEARNED THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF HAWTHORNE FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE.

YOU REPRESENT DISTRICT THREE IN REDONDO BEACH AND THE BERYL HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.

THE RESIDENTS OF 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU TO FINISH PROSPECT AVENUE MEDIAN AND PROVIDE REMEDY TO CLEAR PUBLIC SAFETY AND NOISE NUISANCES HERE.

IT'S BEEN WELL OVER A YEAR PAIGE. SO HOW DO YOU FIND THE TIME TO WORK ON REAL ESTATE AND HOUSING ITEMS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF REDONDO BEACH? WE'RE STILL WAITING. WALKED AWAY FROM THIS PAIGE IN FAVOR OF REPRESENTING BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT, AND OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS. THIS ISN'T WHY YOU WERE ELECTED WE NEEDED YOUR SUPPORT AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR BUDGET REVIEW REQUEST FOR COMPLETION OF THE NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE MEDIAN. IN THIS BUDGETING CYCLE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US HERE IN DISTRICT THREE FIRST PAIGE, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE BERYL HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.

YOU DO NOT REPRESENT THE CITY OF HAWTHORNE AND CERTAINLY NOT BEACH CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT.

RIGHT? SO PLEASE DO WHAT YOU ARE ELECTED TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS OF 500 TO 600 NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE AND THE BERYL HEIGHTS COMMUNITY, PLEASE STOP IGNORING US. AND SPEAKING OF TREES, TONIGHT, WHICH WAS A BIG TOPIC, WE'RE STILL WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 30 TREES FOR THE NORTH PROSPECT AVENUE MEDIAN PROJECT.

WE SEE YOU PLANTING TREES ELSEWHERE PAIGE, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 34 WEAKLING OR DEAD WAX MYRTLES OUT HERE, OR JIM'S PLANTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

AND THOSE NEED TO BE REPLACED. SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE HELP US WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THAT CONCLUDES THE ZOOM.

AND WE HAVE LET'S SEE WHAT WE HAVE. SO WE HAVE TWO OPPOSE AND ONE NEUTRAL. OKAY. FOR ECOMMENTS.

THANK YOU. IT AMAZES ME HOW SOME PEOPLE THINK BERATING THE COUNCIL IS A WAY TO GET US TO ALLOCATE MONEY, BUT THAT'S A AN INTERESTING TACTIC. SO WITH THAT, I THINK LET'S SEE WHAT YOU WANT US TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BUDGET REPORTS AND CONTINUE THIS. IS THAT ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GIVEN AT THIS MEETING? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK. NONE AT ALL. YEAH.

OKAY. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORT?

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SO MOVED. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE ORDER. IS THERE A REASON WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE IT? WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. YEAH. IT'S CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I MEAN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY RECEIVE AND FILE THE BUDGET RESPONSE REPORTS.

THAT'S, I THINK, SOMETHING WE HAD FOR A LITTLE EFFECT. BUT REALLY THE CRITICAL ACTION HERE IS CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE NIGHT.

AND BEFORE WE DO, CAN I ADDRESS AN ISSUE? ABSOLUTELY.

ELEANOR AND DEREK, COULD YOU LIGHT UP 2B? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALSO, MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL. MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS, THIS IS A JUST A DRAFT PROPOSED BUDGET MOTION.

WE DID ONE LAST YEAR AS A KIND OF A POINT OF REFERENCE.

AND SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE WENT THROUGH, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO, IN FACT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY MONEY TO SPEND. AND I SEE STEPHANIE'S HERE STILL.

SO JUST TO GO THROUGH THIS THE MOTION IN THIS RECEIVE THE INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. AS YOU CAN READ, APPROVE ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP.

ADOPT BRR ONE, WHICH IS, I THINK, TYPICALLY WHERE WE MAKE AMENDMENTS AT THE END.

WE MAY HAVE A 1A 00. AND THEN FOR THESE REMAINING THREE ITEMS, THIS IS FROM THE SUBDIVISION PARK TRUST FUND, THE QUIMBY FUNDS. WE HAVE A BRR COMING BRR 27.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT IN A WEEK OR SO, WHICH IS GOING TO ADDRESS THE SCOPE OF AVIATION, PICKLEBALL, AUTOMATED BOOKING SYSTEM, NIGHTTIME LIGHTING.

THIS WOULD BE TO INCLUDE IN THE SCOPE OF THE AVIATION PICKLEBALL PROJECT, THOSE ITEMS IN AN AMOUNT TBD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNT THAT'S A PLACEHOLDER $100,000 ALLOCATED FROM THE SUBDIVISION TRUST FUNDS AGAIN.

EXACT AMOUNT TBD PENDING BRR RESULT. BRR 45 IS A CONTINUING BRR, WHICH IS FOR PERRY PARK.

THE PARK FENCING WITH THE GREEN VINYL COATED FENCING, WHICH I THINK WAS RECOMMENDED BY PUBLIC WORKS.

AND I THINK JESSE'S HERE. THERE HE IS. ZEIN IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ONE THAT KIND OF OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED BIT BY BIT TO, I THINK ULTIMATELY GET TO THAT $250,000 NUMBER.

THE $78,134 GETS TO A NEW TOTAL CIP ALLOCATION OF $150,000.

SO JUST ALLOCATING THAT, I BELIEVE IT IS STILL SUBDIVISION TRUST FUND ELIGIBLE.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM HERE IS $35,000, AGAIN FROM SUBDIVISION TRUST FUNDS FOR NEW REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR REGIONAL PARKS.

WE HAVE THAT COME UP EVERY NOW AND THEN. AND THE IDEA AFTER CONFERRING WITH STAFF WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT MONEY ON HAND TO MAKE THOSE REPLACEMENTS KIND OF IN A QUICK MANNER. I KNOW A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET MOMENTARILY, AND IT'S GRAB THEM WHILE YOU CAN, AND THIS WOULD BE FUNDS READILY AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.

SO THAT IS THE DRAFT MOTION. I'LL SEND IT TO ELEANOR AND HER STAFF TO CIRCULATE.

MENTION WAS MADE EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THE WISH LIST.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR. THIS IS A WISH LIST.

IT DOES GO AWAY. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND I THOUGHT WE WOULD AT LEAST PUT THESE ITEMS ON HERE.

REBRANDING OF REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES WITH THE NEW LOGO.

THIS MONEY IS NOT AVAILABLE. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A PRIORITY.

THIS IS A WISH LIST ITEM. BRR 29 REBRANDING THE RBFD VEHICLES WITH THE NEW LOGO.

AGAIN. A WISH LIST. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. NOT NECESSARILY A HIGH PRIORITY.

BRR 38 IS A LOW DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S THE RBPAC PANEL REPLACEMENT WITH THE NEW LOGO $1300.

AND SO THAT'S THERE AGAIN UNFUNDED WISH LIST.

SO THAT IS IT. AND I THOUGHT IT COULD BE HELPFUL JUST TO, TO GET THAT CIRCULATED LIKE WE DID IN PAST YEARS.

SO THAT'S ALL. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CIRCULATE IT CAN IT BE CIRCULATED IN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET FORM SO THAT OTHERS CAN EDIT IT VERSUS A PDF. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT SHARED. THAT RIGHT THERE SHARED VERSION.

YEAH. NO, JUST A STATIC. YEAH. YOU CAN JUST EMAIL IT TO ME AND I CAN FORWARD IT.

YEAH. UNSHARED. IS THAT THE PREFERENCE OF COUNCIL IS THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET DOWNLOADED STANDALONE? YEAH, I HAVE THAT. I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. AS LONG AS NO EDITS ARE SHARED.

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RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. NOT. SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE THEIRS FAT FINGERED INTO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

AND YEAH. IT WON'T BE A SHARED EXCEL. IT JUST STRAIGHTFORWARD.

STRAIGHT EXCEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN BEFORE WE BREAK, I DID SEE AND CONTINUE.

I DID SEE ON THE LIST OF ITEMS TO ACCOMPLISH ANY NEW BRR'S IS NOW THE TIME TO DO THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE? WE CAN DO IT REFERRALS TOO CAN'T WE. WE CAN BUT I MEAN, THIS IS SUBJECT TO BUDGET.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ONE? YEAH.

OKAY. AGAIN, THESE ARE COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND I GOING TO BE JUDICIOUS ON THIS AND STOP ME MR. CITY MANAGER, IF ANY OF THESE ARE GOING TO STRETCH THE BANDWIDTH BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A NUMBER ON THERE.

SO PLEASE BE CANDID. ONE IS HOW MUCH SUPPLEMENTAL MONEY IS NEEDED TO INCLUDE THE NEW CITY LOGO ON ARTESIA LANDMARK SIGNS WEST AND EAST SIDES OF THE BOULEVARD.

BRR FOR LANDMARK SIGNS. WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BRR.

IS THERE A BRR ON THAT LANDMARK. ON LANDMARK.

THE COST TO CONVERT CHEAPLY I THINK THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

I THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION. YEAH. DO WE? WELL, IF IT'S THERE, LET ME JUST CONFIRM.

IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED. IF IT IS THERE, THEN. YES.

OKAY. AND I THINK THAT THE DISTINCTION HERE IS THE NEW CITY LOGO ON THE LANDMARK SIGNS.

IS THAT INCLUDED ALREADY AS PART OF. YES. IT'S IN THERE.

OKAY. THE IDEA IS TO. BUT IT WAS TO DO SORT OF A CHEAPER CONVERSION WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, NOT TO CREATE NEW MONUMENTS PER SAY. OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. ANOTHER BRR AND I.

NUMBER 35. JUST FOR THE RECORD. IS IT 35? OKAY.

COST UPDATE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE MONUMENT ENTRY AND WAYFINDING SIGNS OF THE BRAND LOGO.

SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IT. BRR I KNOW AT DALE PAGE PARK THE EXPANSION JOINT ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT. AND WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THIS WHETHER A AND THAT IS CONTINUOUSLY UPDATED WHETHER THERE'S A KIND OF A SPORT COURT TYPE TO POTENTIALLY PERMANENTLY ADDRESS THE EXPANSION JOINT ITEM FOR THE DALE PAGE PICKLEBALL COURT.

SO IT COULD BE USED UNINTERRUPTED AND WITHOUT ADDITIONAL COST.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR STAFF CAN EASILY TAKE A LOOK AT OR NOT? YEAH. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. I HAD A REFERRAL THAT WAS KIND OF RELATED TO THE BUDGET, BUT WE CAN WAIT TILL THE END UNLESS YOU WANT TO PREVIEW.

YEAH JUST WAIT TILL THE END. LET'S DO IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. NOW THEN LET'S WAIT. I THINK IT'S MORPHED INTO A REFERRAL, SO LET'S WAIT. OKAY, I HAVE A BRR IF YOU. I HAVE ONE TOO, THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU.

OKAY, OKAY. I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT WE'RE ABOUT TO OPEN UP THE NEW PARK ALONG HERONDO.

HOW ARE WE FUNDING MAINTENANCE? BECAUSE IT NEEDS WEEDING.

YEAH. WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO WORK IT INTO THE PARK SERVICES DIVISION, PROGRAM, PERIODIC WAITING.

MAYBE WE CAN PULL ON PARTNERSHIPS. YEAH, WE DIDN'T FUND IT THROUGH THE SBPC CONTRACT.

RIGHT. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT NORMAL WEED WHACKING.

RIGHT. STAFF DOESN'T DO WEEDING. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO THAT'S MY QUESTION.

AND WHERE'S THE FUNDING? YEAH, WE CAN PUT A BRR TOGETHER ON IT.

I MEAN, IF IT HELPS. BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT A YEAR TO DO MAINTENANCE ON IT.

NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE EXISTING RESOURCES, BUT WE CAN DESCRIBE THAT.

AS WELL IF YOU JUST TELL ME IT'S IN THE EXISTING BUDGET, I'M FINE BUT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ANSWER. OKAY, THEN DON'T PUT IT IN THERE.

BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WANT US TO EXPLAIN THE ESTIMATES. I DON'T WANT US TO GO UNMAINTAINED UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR WHEN IT'LL BE ALL WEEDS.

RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T NEED IT. YOU DON'T NEED IT.

NOT NOT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME WE CAN DO IT WITHIN THE EXISTING BUDGET.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A BRR. JUST TO HIRE EITHER AN INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL CONSULTANT OR AUDITOR TO REVIEW OUR WATERFRONT LEASES TO ON A RECOVERY BASIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EITHER, YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL THE REVENUE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE OR IF WE'RE RECEIVING TOO MUCH. AND I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE DONE ON A RECOVERY BASIS BASED ON WHAT THEY FIND.

SO IT WOULD AT MINIMUM BE COST NEUTRAL TO THE BUDGET, BUT POTENTIALLY.

SO REALLY UNDER A RECOVERY STRUCTURE AS OPPOSED TO A MORE LIKE OUR TRADITIONAL TNM.

AUDIT RECOVERY. YEAH. AUDIT. SO WE'LL CALL THAT OPTIONS RECOVERY OPTIONS COST AND.

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THAT'S OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

NOTHING. NOTHING. OKAY, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JUNE 9TH.

SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. ALL FOR IT. AYE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. DOWN TO. OH. CITY MANAGER.

NOTHING THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY, THAT WAS QUICK.

OKAY, NOW DOWN TO P1 THAT'S DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPOINTING NEW MAYOR PRO TEM AND DELEGATES AND ALTERNATIVES

[P. MAYOR AND COUNCIL ITEMS]

ALTERNATES. SO NORMAL ROTATION WOULD HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AS OUR NEXT MAYOR PRO TEM IF WE WENT BY THE HISTORY OF ROTATION, BUT HE HAS REQUESTED THAT HE PASS THAT ON THIS TIME AND MAYBE COME UP LATER IN HIS TERM, OR IF IT NEVER COMES UP, HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

BASED ON THAT, GOING THROUGH THE CONTINUING THE ROTATION, SKIPPING HIM, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO NOMINATIONS, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BE THE NOMINATION FOR THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER AS THE NEXT MAYOR PRO TEM.

OKAY. AND WE DON'T NEED A SECOND ON THAT. WE DON'T? ANY OTHER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. NO, I JUST IF I MAY QUICKLY I AGREE.

LET'S DO THE ROTATION. I THINK IT'S NATURAL. COUNCILMEMBER OBAGI HAS DECLINED, SO IT'S MOVED TO THE NEXT.

AND YES, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER'S NAME ON IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS MEETING COMING UP AND THAT NEEDS TO GET EXECUTED ASAP.

THAT WAS IN LIKE A ALTHOUGH. MEETINGS TOMORROW.

MEETINGS TOMORROW. SO OKAY, I THINK. I'VE READ THE AGENDA AND I'M READY TO GO TO THE MEETING.

I LOVE IT. OKAY. AND MAYBE IT'S AN UNOFFICIAL PROPOSAL, BUT I WOULD PROPOSE WE GO BACK TO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE FOR THE ROTATION INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS REALLY WEIRD ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, FOUR. BUT THAT'S YEARS IN THE FUTURE. YEAH.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION.WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ELECTION. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SORT OF SAYING. AND THAT'S UNOFFICIAL ANYWAY. IT'S UNOFFICIAL, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION AND HOW IT FALLS. OH, THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE THAT.

OKAY. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE THE NEXT IS, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT THREE AND FIVE.

SO IT'S JUST THE WAY THE ROTATION GOES. IT USED TO BE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

AND THE COUNCIL, WHEN THEY SKIPPED COUNCIL SKIPPED FIVE.

THEY SKIPPED THE COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THAT PUT THINGS OUT OF ORDER. SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION.

I DON'T REMEMBER ON ON THESE DO WE GET TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE NOMINATION FOR MAYOR PRO TEM? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? ANYONE ONLINE? NO, I HAVE NONE.

I ALSO NEED THE REGARDING THE DELEGATES AND YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT NEXT.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO EVERYBODY FOR. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. BRAD WALLER, THE PERSON WHO'S EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME.

PERFECT MAYOR PRO TEM. OKAY, NOW GOING DOWN TO THE DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE REMOVED OR CHANGE POSITIONS, LET ME KNOW.

I KEPT THE POSITIONS THE SAME. EXCEPT WE ALREADY HAD THE REQUEST FROM COUNCILMEMBER OBAGI TO STEP DOWN FROM THE LEAD FOR SB COG.

I'M THIS IS MISS. WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA IS NOT QUITE CORRECT.

BRAD SHOULD BE THE ONE ON THAT HE WAS THE ALTERNATE.

YEAH. SO HE WOULD BECOME THE PRIMARY. I BELIEVE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM THAT WE ACCEPTED.

OH, THAT WAS IN THE BLUE FOLDER. THAT AGENDA ITEM.

BUT I THINK WITH THE UPDATED INFORMATION. YEAH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE I DIDN'T RECEIVE A FOLDER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS WE ACCEPTED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ANYWAY, REGARDLESS, WE'RE PUTTING YOU IN AS THE DELEGATE AND ZEIN MOVES TO ALTERNATE.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY REQUEST I'VE GOTTEN. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

WELL, IF I MAY, I JUST PICK UP ON THE POINT YOU JUST MADE MAYOR, WHICH IS WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO.

YEAH, TO STEP DOWN, OFFER UP A SPOT TO SOMEBODY ELSE ON ANY OF THESE, WHETHER IT'S A DELEGATE OR ALTERNATE OR SUBCOMMITTEE? THAT'S KIND OF THE MOST GENTILE WAY TO DO IT.

I'M ON THE ACADEMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.

I ENJOY IT VERY MUCH. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

WE HEAR ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER I DO MY TWO YEARS ON IT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, I THINK NEXT YEAR, I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND I WANT TO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE NOW THAT AFTER TWO YEARS ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE AND LET OTHERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT WE DO AND WE ENJOY

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AND WORKING WITH THE GREAT FOLKS THERE. SO WRITE THAT DOWN.

NEXT YEAR. YOU'RE PUTTING US ON NOTICE. I'M PUTTING ON NOTICE BECAUSE I WANT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DO THAT.

I WANT TO GIVE OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON A COMMITTEE.

AND IF ANYBODY STEPS UP. SOMETIMES HE GIVES A TWO WEEK NOTICE, HE GIVES IT ONE YEAR NOTICE.

WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE RAISED THE POINT WHERE WE'RE HERE WE ARE NOW, WE KNOW IF WE DON'T DO IT IN ADVANCE, WE GET TO THE END OF THE NIGHT. AND IT'S NOT KIND OF SEARED IN THE MIND.

THE END OF TWO YEARS I'M STEPPING OFF THAT COMMITTEE.

I'M GOING TO GIVE ANYONE ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IT'S A VERY EXCITING COMMITTEE FOR ANYONE WHO'S LOOKING TO JOIN.

I WILL SAY THAT HAVING SOME CONSISTENCY WITH A TWO YEAR TERM HAS A LOT OF VALUE FOR THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. YES. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AND AGENCY DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES AS LISTED WITH THE CHANGE FROM CHADWICK CASTLE ON THE SB COG TO BRAD WALLER.

WALLER. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ONLINE? NONE. OKAY, I'LL CALL THE VOTE.

ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 0 WITH ONE ABSENT.

OKAY. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY. RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2606-036.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPOINTING A NEW MAYOR PRO TEM DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES AS THE OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY FOR THE TERM COMMENCING JULY 1, 2026 EXPIRING ON JUNE 30, 2027, AND APPOINTING A CITY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE L.A. COUNTY SANITATION MEETING FOR JUNE 3, 2026, AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

GOING DOWN TO ITEM Q, THE REFERRALS TO STAFF.

[Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF]

LET'S SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAD ONE YOU WANTED TO. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. IT IS A REFERRAL.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING I TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND CITY MANAGER IT'S A REFERRAL TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO EXPLORE POTENTIAL MARINE LIFE MOSAICS ON THE BREAKWALL CAP ALONG A MOLE D.

SO THAT'S MY REFERRAL. AND IF THERE'S A SECOND, WE'LL HAVE A VOTE.

I'LL SECOND THAT. DID YOU WANT TO MODIFY THAT MAYOR WAS IT SOMETHING.

WELL, MY QUESTION IS WELL WE CAN'T REALLY DISCUSS IT HERE.

MY QUESTION IS WHEN DOES THE FUNDING GET ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S A FAIR POINT. IT'S A SEPARATE POINT. IT'S UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET IT GOING.

WE COULD HOLD OFF IF IT'S. I DON'T MIND PUTTING IT IN, BUT IF WE DON'T BUDGET FOR IT, IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER WOULD BE THE COMMISSION COULD SCOPE A PROJECT.

THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY COME BACK WITH COUNCIL. IT'S OUT OF A DIFFERENT FUND.

SO YEAH, IT'S STILL FOR A FOUR PERSON VOTE TO ALLOCATE.

IT WOULD BE TO DO IT INSIDE THE FISCAL YEAR. BUT IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT LENDS ITSELF TO GETTING INTO THE QUEUE, MAYBE IT'S PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE AND COST IS.

THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT THE REFERRAL IS. RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? YES. OKAY. SO. SECONDED. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. ANY OTHER REFERRALS? NO. OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO MOVED UNTIL THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR IT. AYE.

OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

WE WILL BE MEETING NEXT TIME AT 4:30 P.M. FOR THE CLOSED SESSION.

AND THE REGULAR SESSION WILL BE HELD AT 6 P.M.

ON TUESDAY, JUNE 9TH, RIGHT HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.