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PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST TO ORDER.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
IF I CAN GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE.HERE. COMMISSIONER ROY. HERE. COMMISSIONER GALASSI.
AND JACK, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO COME UP AND LEAD US IN THAT.
SO COME UP. COME ON UP. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, SO IT ALSO SAYS AND INVOCATION. SO I WANT TO START OFF BY WELCOMING OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HERE AND AS COUNCILMAN OBAGI SAID LAST NIGHT THEY'RE TREMENDOUS ADDITIONS TO OUR COMMISSION AND THE PROBABLY THE BEST QUALIFIED PEOPLE WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME. SO I DO WANT TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S SILENCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED FOR THEM AS FAR AS RECOGNITION OR HONORING THEM.
BUT I DO THINK AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST THANK THEM.
SO GOING IN ORDER OF WHERE THEY USED TO SIT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CALDWELL.
HE'S WAS ON THE THIS COMMISSION FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT HE ALSO WAS ONE OF OUR PRESERVATION LINKS GOING BACK EIGHT YEARS TO 2016. HE'S, HE'S WAS A MEMBER OF THE LEADERSHIP REDONDO CLASS OF 2008 AND HE BROUGHT A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE TO OUR AND EXPERIENCE TO OUR ISSUES DEALING WITH PRESERVATION.
SO I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE AS A RESULT OF HIM.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONER YOUSUFZAI, AND HE WAS OUR FIRST PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION CHAIRPERSON.
HE IS AN EXPERT ON THE MUNICIPAL PROCESS AND, AND THE FINANCE.
AND AS WE LEARNED LAST TIME LAST MONTH, HE IS NOT A TEACHER.
AND WE HAD A RECENT VOLUNTEER PROJECT WHERE HE'S PROBABLY SPENT 40 TO 60 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TIME MANNING A BOOTH AT THE RIVIERA FAIR. SO I WILL MISS HIM AS WELL.
HE WAS THE CHAIR OF THAT. HE WAS BIG WITH THE SUNSET LITTLE LEAGUE.
SO WE'LL HEAR ABOUT THAT MAYBE. AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL ON THIS VOLUNTEER PROJECT AS WELL.
AND I'M GOING TO SAY MY THANKS TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER AND THAT IS COMMISSIONER LANG, WHOSE NAME IS UP THERE, AND HOPEFULLY SHE STILL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE AND HOPEFULLY SHE WILL.
SHE WAS OUR ARCHITECT ON THIS BODY. WE NEEDED SOMEBODY WITH SOME SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE.
SHE WAS THE ARCHITECTURAL EXPERT. SHE WAS OUR EDITOR OF ANYTHING WE HAD THAT NEEDED EDITING.
I WILL NOTE THAT WITH THE, WITH COMMISSIONER YOUSUFZAI, ROWE AND MCCAULEY AND LANG, WE LOSE OUR CONNECTION TO THE REC'S AND PARKS COMMISSION AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
AND NOW WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE THINGS AROUND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND WE WOULD LIKE TWO[00:05:06]
STAFF PEOPLE HERE. AND IF THEY WANT TO STAY, THEY CAN.BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE WHOLE FAMILY HERE. SO I'M GOING TO GO SUGGEST THAT WE GO IN THIS ORDER.
WE DO E WHICH IS THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. THEN MOVE L.1 AFTER E, DEAL WITH ITEMS F THROUGH I WHICH IS CONSISTENT. SWITCH THE ORDER OF THE J'S, J.2 FIRST BECAUSE THAT ONE'S ON THE ACTUAL LIST OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES. AND WE CAN GET A DISCUSSION GOING ON THAT AND THEN GO TO J.1.
THEN WE CAN GO TO, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE DO ITEM N WHICH IS THE REFERRALS TO STAFF.
THEN COME BACK TO ITEM K, WHICH IS PREVIOUS AGENDAS AND THEN ITEM L.2 AND THEN ITEM M AND THEN ITEM O. SO REALLY JUST MOVING ITEM L.1 OUT OF ORDER AND SWITCHING THE ORDERS ON THE J'S AND THEN ADDING IN THE N EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM. SO IF I CAN GET US, I WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
IF I CAN GET A SECOND, I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ORDER. AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ALL WROTE IT DOWN SO YOU CAN KEEP ME TO IT.
[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. WE HAVE TWO I BELIEVE TODAY DON'T WE.YES. OKAY. AND SO THERE ARE ITEMS REFERRING TO THAT BOTH CAME FROM COMMISSIONER GALASSI.
I ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IT BACK AS A COMMITTEE REPORT.
YES. OKAY. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE TWO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIR. ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY A REFERRAL TO STAFF AND THE OTHER ONE IS JUST SORT OF A RECEIVE AND FILE AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY. SO, SO THE, THE COMMITTEE REPORTS UNDER THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
OKAY. SO THAT'S THE L.3 ITEM OR THE L.2 ITEM I GUESS.
THAT WAS THE L. THAT'S L.2. OKAY. ONE'S THE REPORT AND ONE AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE BILL BRAND GATE WAVE PARK AMENITIES RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S A REFERRAL TO STAFF. YES. REFERRAL TO STAFF.
THE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT IS UNDER THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
OKAY. ITEM L.1 AND I THINK L.3 WAS THE THAT WAS THE.
L.3 HAS TO DO WITH THE BILL BRAND GATE WAVE PARK AND THEN ITEM N IS THE REFERRAL TO STAFF, BUT IT'S BLUE FOLDER BECAUSE OF WHEN WE RECEIVED IT.
WHEN IT IS ITEM N BECAUSE IT'S A REFERRAL. OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDERS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
ANYBODY WANT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.
THE FIRST TIME YOU GET IN THE OFFICIALLY IN THE MINUTES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THAT PASSES. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE BOTH OF YOU IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS ALONG THE WAY.
PLEASE ASK. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE BAD.
SO NOW WE MOVE TO ITEM L.1, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE VOLUNTEER ACKNOWLEDGMENT CERTIFICATE TO JACK RAJCIC. IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD.
IF YOU WANT TO STAND THERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO TAKE A PICTURE AT SOME POINT? OKAY, GREAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.
THIS IS A REALLY LONG PROCESS TO GET YOU TO HERE.
I THINK YOU'RE THE THIRD PERSON EVER TO GET THIS AWARD.
SO WE COMMEND YOU ON IT. I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO COMMISSIONER LANG, WHO WAS THE ONE WHO NOMINATED YOU INITIALLY TO GIVE HER, GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS ON ON YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE AND WHAT YOU BRING TO SUNSET LITTLE LEAGUE.
SO I'M GOING TO READ TO READ YOU WHAT SHE WROTE.
AND SO SHE SAYS THAT SUNSET REDONDO SERVES MORE THAN 900 KIDS AND PROVIDES SOMETHING INCREDIBLY VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY, A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN CAN LEARN TO PLAY BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL AND BUILD CONFIDENCE, BE PART OF A TEAM,
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MAKE FRIENDSHIPS, AND DEVELOP A LOVE FOR THE GAME.THIS OPPORTUNITY DOES NOT SIMPLY EXIST ON ITS OWN.
IT IS CREATED AND SUSTAINED BY AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEER TIME, ORGANIZATION AND LEADERSHIP.
SUNSET OPERATES YEAR ROUND WITH SPRING BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, SUMMER ALL STARS AND FALL BALL.
AND BEHIND EVERY SEASON ARE COUNTLESS HOURS OF PLANNING SCHEDULE, FIELD MAINTENANCE, COACHING, AND COORDINATION. JACK'S LEADERSHIP AS PRESIDENT HELPS MAKE ALL OF THAT POSSIBLE.
HE'S SUPPORTED BY AN OUTSTANDING BOARD, COACHES, PARENTS, AND VOLUNTEERS, AND THE STRENGTH OF THAT TEAM IS A REFLECTION OF THE CULTURE OF RESPECT, RESPONSIBILITY AND SERVICE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT AROUND THE LEAGUE.
WITHOUT PEOPLE WILLING TO STEP FORWARD LIKE JACK, LEAD, ORGANIZE, AND VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME.
THOSE KIDS SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAVE THIS RESOURCE.
SUNSET REDONDO IS A VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSET, AND JACK'S LEADERSHIP, TOGETHER WITH THE MANY VOLUNTEERS WHO SUPPORT THE LEAGUE ARE DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.
THANK YOU. AS WELL AS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DISPLAY.
IT'S A SURFBOARD THAT YOU CAN DISPLAY IT ON YOUR DESK, IN YOUR KITCHEN, WHEREVER YOU WANT TO, BUT IT'S ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND IF YOU WANT YOUR FAMILY OR YOU TO COME UP HERE SO WE CAN GET PICTURES, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND IF YOU GUYS ALL WANT TO STAND INSIDE SO WE CAN GET THE TALL PERSON.
SO. PICK YOUR SPOT. COME OVER A LITTLE BIT. YOU WON'T BE SEEN.
THERE YOU GO. MOVE OVER MORE. OKAY. NOW YOU'RE TALKING TO ME.
NO, YOU'RE TALLER THAN I AM. STANDING BEHIND YOU.
OKAY. ONE. TWO. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU GET YOUR VIDEO SCOREBOARD YOU CAN PLAY THAT ON THE LOOP.
THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ORTA FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN AS WELL TODAY.
OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO ITEM F. AND ITEM F IS OUR CONSENT CALENDAR.
[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
THERE ARE FOUR THINGS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AN AFFIDAVIT FOR POSTING FOR THE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MEETING FOR AUGUST 12TH, 2026. F.2 IS APPROVE THE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MINUTES OF JUNE 10TH AND JULY 8TH, 2026. RECEIVE AND FILE THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR'S REPORT AND RECEIVED AND FILED UPDATES FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT RELATED TO HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND PARKS AND REC ACTIVITIES. SO WE START OFF, IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WISHES TO PULL ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? WHAT IT DOES IS IT MOVES IT FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR SHALL BE BROUGHT UP.OKAY. I'M GOING TO BE REMOVING THE MINUTES FOR BOTH OF THE MEETINGS.
IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I WILL REMOVE THAT AND THEN.
SO THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I'M NOT PULLING THAT. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PULL ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. SO WHAT WILL WE GET TO DO NOW IS GET SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ANYBODY? ANYBODY ONLINE? THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THEN ITEMS F.1, F.3 AND F.4.
SO I CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE THREE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. YEAH. OKAY. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.
SECOND. WE'VE DONE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?
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OKAY. SO THAT'S PASSED. WE NOW MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM.[G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]
AND I PULLED ASIDE THE MINUTES AND AS YOU KNOW I GET FRUSTRATED WITH THE QUALITY OF THE MINUTES. LAST MONTH WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO CALL YOUR ASSISTANT THAT'S SITTING TO YOUR RIGHT.SHE WAS REFERRED TO AS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
AND THAT IMPLIES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE OUR LIAISON AT THIS POINT.
WHEN THOSE MINUTES CAME THROUGH, SHE CONSULTED WITH THE CITY CLERK, AND THAT WAS THE TITLE THAT WAS PRESENTED JUST AS MY TITLE IS LIBRARY DIRECTOR, BUT I'M ALSO LIAISON FOR THE COMMISSION.
SO SHE AN ASSISTANT LIAISON IS SHE IS ADMINISTRATIVE.
I DON'T SEE THE CLERK THAT SITS WITH OUR CITY CLERK BEING CALLED ON THE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, THE INTERIM CLERK. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT WAS CLARIFICATION FROM CITY CLERK. AND I CAN'T REALLY DEBATE THE ISSUE.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT LANE DID CLARIFY THAT WITH CITY CLERK.
AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION WE WERE GIVEN. SO WHEN THEY DID THE AMENDMENTS OF THE MINUTES, THEY BASICALLY CHANGED EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? NOT EVERYTHING.
I THINK THAT'S. I MEAN MISS BUTLER. YES. OKAY.
OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO SPECIFICALLY TO THE JUNE MINUTES.
BESIDES THE FACT THAT THEY CALL MISS BUTLER, BOTH THE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR AND THEN INTERIM LIAISON, AND THEN THEY JUST GO INTERIM LIAISON ALL THE WAY THROUGH, WHICH THEY ALSO HAVE THE, THERE'S A SECTION IN HERE AND I THINK IT'S ON PAGE THREE OF 17 FOR THE JUNE 1ST.
IT HAS. NEAR THE BOTTOM. THE WORDS DISCUSSION FOLLOWED, AND I'M NOT CLEAR IF THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT'S NOT BEING INCLUDED IN THERE OR WHY IT'S EVEN NECESSARY TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
AND THEN ON PAGE TEN OF 17, IT USES THE TERM MORE DISCUSSION FOLLOWED.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT IS BEING LEFT OUT OR IF IT'S EVEN RELEVANT TO THE WHOLE THING.
I DO THANK THEM FOR MAKING THE CHANGES ON PAGE SEVEN OF 17 FOR CORRECTING THE SPELLING OF OUR MAYOR, OUR PAST MAYOR. AND THEN ON PAGE 11 OF 17, AND THIS IS A PET PEEVE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND IT GOES TO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, IT SAYS LIBRARY DIRECTOR VINKE OPINED THAT THE COMMISSION COULD PROVIDE SOME STEPS.
I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU'RE OPINING. I THINK YOU'RE DISCUSSING OR TALKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE CHOICE OF WORDS IS NOT RIGHT. PAGE 14 OF 17.
SOME DISCUSSION FOLLOWED AGAIN, THE SAME ISSUE IN JULY ON THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE AGAIN ON PAGE TWO OF 12 THAT I'M OPINING ON THE MINUTES.
I'M NOT OPINING ON THE MINUTES. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ON THIS IS MORE SO THAT THIS CAN BE A PLACEHOLDER. I HAD ASKED IF STAFF COULD PUT TOGETHER THE PICTURES OF THE RECIPIENTS OF THE AWARD AND THE LARGER PROCESS. AND COMMISSION COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPUTY DIRECTOR RESPONDED TO THAT.
WHEN WE GET TO THE STAFF STUFF, THAT'S WE'LL ALL ASK WHETHER THAT WAS DONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE JULY MINUTES, THERE'S A FOOTER THERE.
EACH PAGE IN THAT SAYS JUNE 8TH, 2026, NOT JULY 8TH, 2026.
AND THERE'S ALSO ON PAGE SEVEN, AGAIN, THE MORE DISCUSSION FOLLOWS.
AND ON PAGE TEN, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT AT SOME POINT OF 10 OR 12 WITH REGARDS TO COMMISSIONER
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LANG STATING HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A REPORT TO DATA DISCUSSING THE PLAY YARDS BEING OPEN.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMING BACK AT SOME POINT OR WHAT, BUT WITH ALL THE SHAKE UP AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T WANT IT TO GET LOST IN THERE. SO THAT'S MY READ OF THE MINUTES.
AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING FOR THE JUNE MINUTES, I DON'T, THE PART THAT I TOOK UP, I POINTED OUT THE LAST TIME IS IT TRACKS THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE ON YOUTUBE.
SO WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE.
YEAH. SO JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT DO DO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE THEM WITH LISTED CORRECTIONS THAT WILL BE MADE AFTER THE FACT? YES. THAT'S ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS.
YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO. RIGHT, RIGHT.
OKAY. SO ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY. OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS ONE. OKAY. SO YOU CAN DO IT AS ONE MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE OR JULY MINUTES, OR YOU CAN BREAK THEM UP INTO TWO. I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE MOVEMENT, WHOEVER WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THESE MINUTES.
I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING. OKAY. I THINK YOU HAVE A POINT.
RIGHT. AND THEN IF THAT MOTION IS PUT FORTH, DO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SEE THE FINAL EDITS BEFORE IT'S RECORDED? IF YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM WITH CORRECTIONS, THEN THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK TO BE APPROVED AGAIN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM, THEN THEN WE HAVE TO TABLE THE MINUTES UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN SEE THEM AGAIN WITH THE CORRECTIONS AND APPROVE THEM AT THAT TIME.
I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN. THE JUNE MINUTES REFLECT WHAT WAS SAID ON.
YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSCRIPT ON YOUTUBE. I JUST HAVE PROCEDURAL PROBLEMS WITH THEM AND CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE LIBRARY ASSISTANT IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING NEW TITLES, BECAUSE I NOTICE IT DOES SWITCH YOU BACK TO LIBRARY DIRECTOR, BUT YOU ARE OFFICIALLY THE LIAISON. I WILL SAY I DID WATCH THE VIDEO OF THE JUNE COMMISSION MEETING AND REVIEWED THESE MINUTES THAT WERE CIRCULATED AS PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET.
AND SUBSTANTIVELY, THEY SEEM TO BE, THEY SEEM TO TRACK.
SO THE CONCERNS I'M HEARING ARE, I'M UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS THAT AREN'T SUBSTANTIVELY INCORRECT WITH WHAT OCCURRED BUT ARE MISLEADING IF YOU READ IT AS AS IS OTHERWISE.
YEAH. IS THERE A WAY TO TURN OFF THE SOUND? BECAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING.
SORRY. I'LL BRING IT. I'LL BRING IT CLOSER. I WAS JUST SAYING FROM MY OWN REVIEW OF THE VIDEO, THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MINUTES APPEARS TO TRACK WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMISSION.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE, THAT IT WOULD BE MEMORIALIZING THOSE TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS AND INCONSISTENCIES INTO THE RECORD. ALTHOUGH THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MINUTES IS PRETTY ACCURATE.
SO. RIGHT. NO. AND I AND I DO SHARE THAT CONCERN THAT IT HAS THE SORT OF.
THE VAGUE WORDS OF MORE DISCUSSION FOLLOWS BEING OPEN.
BUT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOUR EARLIER POINT.
AND THE QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE A POINT WHERE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SUBSTANCE THAT WE CAN LET A FEW TYPOS GO SO WE CAN GET THE RECORD OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC? YES. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE RECORD IS IN THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ON OUR AGENDA PACKET.
ONE OF THE REASONS I KEEP ON SAYING IS IT TRACKS WHAT WAS SAID.
AND YOU CAN READ IN THE TRANSCRIPT AS I'M LEAVING IT TO YOU GUYS, I'M JUST ONE VOTE.
AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO APPROVE THEM, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
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HE'S GOTTEN OUR LIAISON, HAS GOTTEN OUR FEEDBACK ON IT.SO IT'S LIKE, IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT IT'S AGAIN, SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADOPT, PLEASE DO.
I'M NOT TRYING TO HOLD YOU BACK ON IT. SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A MOTION AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ALL THOSE. I THINK I ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ALREADY.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. ANYBODY OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. SO IT'S 3 TO 1 AND BOTH OF THEM GET ADOPTED.
THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND NON AGENDA ITEMS.
[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION.EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.
I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING THE NEW PROTOCOL WHERE WE GO ONLINE FIRST, AND THEN WE GO IF THERE'S ANY CARDS, I DON'T. DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? YES, I HAVE ONE CARD AND THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.
THE ONE CARD I HAVE IS FROM A JIM MUELLER, I BELIEVE.
OKAY, MR. MUELLER, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP FOR YOUR TIME TO COMMENT? THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. YOU CAN RAISE THE LECTERN AS WELL.
ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THERE'S A LITTLE LEVER THAT RAISES IT UP FOR YOU.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET STARTED. WELL, WELL. GOOD EVENING.
ARE YOU DOING THE CLOCK, TOO, BY THE WAY? AND MY CLOCK HASN'T STARTED, SO I CAN SAY GOOD EVENING.
IF YOU'RE NICE, YOU CAN TALK. NICE TO SEE YOU.
WELCOME TO THE NEW PEOPLE. THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO PROMOTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN NORTH REDONDO. GROWING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND DEVELOPMENT ALONG ARTESIA OUR CITY GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND AND OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PROGRESS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE ENTREPRENEURS OF BRAZILIAN HERITAGE HAVE OPENED BUSINESSES IN NORTH REDONDO. THE AUGUST 9TH LA SUNDAY TIMES CALIFORNIA SECTION HAD AN ARTICLE ENTITLED NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY LAS LITTLE BRAZIL IN SPIRIT. ITS FOCUS WAS NORTH REDONDO SPECIFICALLY HI BRAZIL, A BRAZILIAN OWNED MARKET ON ARTESIA FEATURING BRAZILIAN FOODS AND OTHER BRAZILIAN CULTURAL ITEMS. OTHER BRAZILIAN OWNED BUSINESSES ARE CLOSE BY THE BLACK HOUSE MIXED MARTIAL ARTS AND BRAZILIAN GLAMOR.
IN ADDITION, PINELLAS RESTAURANT, ALSO IN NORTH REDONDO, IS BRAZILIAN THEMED AND BRAZILIAN OWNED.
THE ARTICLE SUGGESTED APPLYING FOR AN OFFICIAL CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION FOR NORTH REDONDO AS LITTLE BRAZIL, WHICH WOULD BRING RECOGNITION, BRANDING ASSISTANCE AND GRANTS FOR PROMOTION AND THUS BOOST, A BOOST TO THE ARTESIA AREA. THE ARTICLE CLAIMED THAT ABOUT 400 BRAZILIANS LIVE IN REDONDO BEACH.
MANY AND MANY MORE IN ADJOINING CITIES, AND BRAZILIANS ARE THE LARGEST IMMIGRANT GROUP IN THE US.
REDONDO, HAVING THE ONLY LITTLE BRAZIL CULTURAL DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA WOULD BRING BUSINESS TO TWO REDONDO BEACH AND ALL. REDONDO BEACH ALREADY HAS THE BASIC ELEMENTS TO APPLY FOR A CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
THE CITY MUST SPONSOR THE APPLICATION AS ONE CRITERIA.
THE OTHER ARE ONE, HAVE A LOCAL BRAZILIAN OWNED BUSINESS, AND THE LAST ONE, A CULTURAL NONPROFIT WHICH ARE REDONDO BRAZILIANS COULD EASILY ORGANIZE. ONCE THE CULTURAL DISTRICT IS ESTABLISHED, PROMOTIONAL EVENTS WITH COMMERCIAL POSSIBILITIES ARE EASY TO ENVISION.
SOME I THOUGHT OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ARE BRAZILIAN MARDI GRAS CELEBRATION WITH A PARADE AND OTHER FESTIVITIES, A SPECIAL BRAZILIAN MUSIC AND ARTS FESTIVAL TO DRAW PEOPLE IN WHO, IN WHO WOULD THEN PATRONIZE OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES.
I HOPE THE COMMISSION WILL AT LEAST REFER THIS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE AGENDA SETTING, STUDY AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR. MUELLER. SINCE WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, IS IT POSSIBLE WE'LL GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO REFERRALS TO STAFF,
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BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD FALL UNDER YOUR DEPARTMENT AS OPPOSED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES.IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? IT APPEARS SO, YEAH.
YEAH. I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK INTO IT FURTHER, BUT ON FACE VALUE.
OKAY. WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR REFERRALS TO STAFF THEN. AND THAT'LL BE ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.
DO YOU STICK AROUND. WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT.
YES. AND I APPRECIATE THE USUAL THE ENTHUSIASM OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
SO I WILL TRY TO ADHERE TO THAT. BUT I'M ALSO INCLINED TO GIVE MORE TIME IF NEEDED.
OKAY. SO THAT ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND BE PART OF THIS.
OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY. AND AGAIN, ANYBODY ONLINE.
THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. NEXT WE GO TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY.
[I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]
AND THIS IS THE PART WHERE WE GIVE US ON THE DAIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVEAL OR DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE'S TWO LANDMARK APPLICATIONS, ONE AT 521 GARNETT AND ONE AT 519 GARNETT.SO I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER GALASSI. DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? NONE CHAIR MAROKO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROY? NO. NO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. NONE. OKAY.
I DO HAVE DISCLOSURE. SO THE HISTORICAL CONTENT THAT YOU'RE READING, I TOOK A PART IN DRAFTING, SO I AM GOING TO, I'M NOT GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE I HAVE NO CONFLICT IN THIS THING.
I'M DOING THIS AS A HISTORICAL PERSON OF INTEREST.
[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
HEARING PART OF IT. I WILL BE PARTICIPATING, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND I MAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, END UP VOTING TO ABSTAIN. SO COMMISSIONER GALASSI.I THINK WE'LL START WITH J.2. PLEASE PROCEED.
CHAIR MAROKO DO WE NEED TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OR DO WE JUST MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO? YOU PROBABLY SHOULD GET A MOTION FROM THE GROUP TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.
I SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. AND NUMBER TWO. WE ARE GOING TO NOW TAKE SOME TESTIMONY FROM STAFF.
THEN THE APPLICANT AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
SO WE WELCOME JOHN CIAMPA, OUR SENIOR PLANNER WHO WILL GUIDE US THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
HERE WE GO. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. YES.
BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WE HAVE ONE OF TWO LANDMARK APPLICATIONS.
THIS IS THE, THE FIRST ONE J.2, WHICH IS 521 GARNET STREET.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT ABOUT THE PROPERTY IN ITS AREA.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GARNET STREET.
THIS IS WITHIN THE R-3 ZONING DESIGNATION, WHICH IS CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
ALL OF THESE LOTS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS 2400FT², AND THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 600FT². THIS PROPERTY WAS SURVEYED UNDER THE CITY'S HISTORIC INVENTORY SURVEY AND GIVEN A RATING OF C.
AND JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, IN THE AREA, THERE ARE TEN OTHER ADJACENT HISTORIC LANDMARK PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS THE RECENTLY ESTABLISHED GARNET HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS INCLUSIVE OF 501, 505, 509 AND 511 GARNET STREET. SO ALL ALONG THAT LEFT HAND NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BLOCK HERE, WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY IN ITS EARLIER PERIOD.
AGAIN, VERY SIMPLE IN DESIGN FROM THIS ERA AS A TRADITIONAL COTTAGE FROM THIS PERIOD.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE SOME MORE RECENT PHOTOS TAKEN RECENTLY.
STILL, AS YOU CAN SEE, REFLECTING THAT ORIGINAL FRONT FACADE AND DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
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MANY OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW OPENINGS ARE STILL THERE.SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH ALUMINUM WINDOWS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE OVERALL FENESTRATION AND MASSING IS THE SAME AS WELL AS THE ROOF DESIGN OF THE HOME. SO SOME OF THE KEY CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THIS HOME IS THE, THE COVERED FRONT ENTRY PORCH THAT IS LOCATED ON THE ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS WELL AS THE HIPPED ROOF.
AND THEN THE WIDE OVERHANGING EAVES AND THE FIVE FRONT ELEVATION WINDOWS.
THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THE MOST PREDOMINANT CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE ELEMENTS OF THE, OF THE HOME FROM THE STREET ELEVATION, WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE PRIMARY ELEVATION AS WELL AS THE BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING.
THAT YOU COULD SEE AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER.
AND AS I DID SAY THAT THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS WERE IDENTIFIED TO HAVE BEEN REPLACED OVER THE YEARS.
HOWEVER THAT IS ALSO A REVERSIBLE IMPROVEMENT THAT CAN BE COMPLETED LATER ON.
THERE'S BEEN JUST SOME MINOR PERMITS ISSUED ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY.
THE COUNTY ASSESSOR IDENTIFIES THE PROPERTY BEING CONSTRUCTED IN 1908.
HOWEVER THE PERMIT RECORDS IN THE CITY IDENTIFY THAT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1928.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCREPANCY THERE.
HOWEVER THERE SEEMS TO BE SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE AS WELL AS IN THE OWNERSHIP INFORMATION THAT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN, IN 1908. AND THEN OTHER RELATED PERMITS THAT DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE, THE DESIGN OR CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE PROPERTY OR THE FOUNDATION PERMIT, AS WELL AS ELECTRICAL SERVICE PERMIT, AND MOST RECENTLY WAS THE REROOF PERMIT BACK IN 2002.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE FAMILY HISTORY IN TERMS OF OWNERSHIP AND RESIDENCE IS RATHER EXTENSIVE AT THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD. THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE HOST OF OWNERS.
HOWEVER THE OWNERSHIP IN THE LAST 50 YEARS HAS ESSENTIALLY REMAINED UNDER LEONARD ROWE AS WELL AS HIS SISTER DIANE, WHO IS IN THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT IDENTIFY ELIGIBLE LANDMARKS FOR DESIGNATION.
HERE YOU HAVE THOSE LISTED BEFORE YOU AND DOES QUALIFY FOR SEVERAL OF THESE PARTICULAR CRITERIA IN TERMS OF THAT IT DOES EXEMPLIFY AND REFLECT SPECIAL ELEMENTS OF THE CITY'S CULTURAL, SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, POLITICAL, ESTHETIC, ENGINEERING OR ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.
THIS OBVIOUSLY WAS RATHER MODEST HOME WHEN IT WAS BUILT BACK IN 2000 OR I'M SORRY, 1908.
AND IT WAS REFLECTIVE OF THAT THE TIME PERIOD AS WELL AS THE THE EMPLOYMENT CLASS THAT WAS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND MOST NOTABLY THIS WAS ONE OF ITS FIRST OWNERSHIPS WAS THE, A GROCERY STORE FAMILY AS WELL AS A MILITARY FAMILY THAT LIVED IN THE HOME AS WELL AS OTHER MANY OTHER FAMILIES THAT LIVED IN THE HOME.
SO IT IS ALSO EMBODYING DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTICS, STYLES AND TYPES OF PERIOD OF DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THIS PERIOD, WHICH GIVEN THAT IT'S A CRAFTSMAN DESIGN, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THAT PERIOD OF DEVELOPMENT FROM THE EARLY 1900S AS WELL AS IT BEING SIMILAR AND NOT NECESSARILY THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE ITSELF, BUT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL MASSING SCALE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE GARNET DISTRICT AS, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THERE ARE TEN OTHER HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE, IN THE THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK AND THAT IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE UNIQUE LOCATION OR SINGULAR PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS, REPRESENTATIVE OF ESTABLISHED, FAMILIAR VISUAL FEATURE LANDMARK OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY. SO IT'S THE DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY AS A LANDMARK WOULD CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS GARNET BLOCK OF THE 500 BLOCK GARNET STREET.
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AND CEQA EXEMPTION DECLARATION FOR THAT FOR THE PROPERTY AT 521 GARNET STREET.SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
AND ONE LAST POINT TO MENTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS INTERESTED IF THERE IS A LANDMARK DESIGNATION THIS EVENING TO PURSUE A MILLS ACT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOLLOWING THIS, WHICH WOULD GO FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. GREAT. THE PRESENTATION WAS FANTASTIC, BY THE WAY, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUPPLIED AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ALSO PUT INTO IT. I REALLY WAS THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED WITH BOTH OF THE BOTH OF THE THE HOMES THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
GOOD EVENING SIR. WOULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? I'M SHAWN HENDERSON. I'M DIANE'S SON, AND I LIVE IN THE 519 ADDRESS NEXT DOOR TO HER.
WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US REGARDING THIS PROPERTY? 521. 521 HAS, AS HE STATED, BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE I WAS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR OLD AND I'M 52 NOW.
THAT STREET HAS A LOT OF HISTORY, A LOT OF MEMORIES, AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE VERY FEW STREETS THAT REMINDS ME OF REDONDO BEACH.
GROWING UP, MOST OF REDONDO BEACH HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED WITH CONDOS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO TO SEE THAT LITTLE SECTION STILL INTACT IS SPECIAL TO ME BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS MY CHILDHOOD AND THE TRUE DEFINITION OF REDONDO, WHICH WAS A WORKING CLASS BEACH COMMUNITY FULL OF LITTLE COTTAGES.
SO HANGING ON TO THAT LITTLE SECTION IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
WONDERFUL. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS SON? YES, YES. NOT AT THIS TIME, NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR POWERFUL WORDS.
THEY CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, CHAIR MAROKO. I'LL SAVE IT FOR THE NEXT SECTION.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? WE WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, OKAY. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? 521 GARNET STREET. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ONLINE AND SHAWN WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SUBMITTED THAT SPEAKER CARD TO ME.
OKAY. AND NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
NO. OKAY. SO LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE. CHAIR MAROKO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PART. NUMBER THREE ON THE LIST.
THAT MAY BE THE NEXT STEP IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DIDN'T WE WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK.
YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY. I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR.
YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON, ON THAT.
YOU, YOU LISTED THAT THE HISTORIC RESOURCES HAD A RATING OF C.
AND THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MANY MODIFICATIONS HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME AS WELL AS JUST THE YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL SENSE. AND IN TERMS OF LIKE, HAS THERE BEEN EXTENSIVE MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED,
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YOU KNOW, IS IT VERY CLOSE TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONS WERE JUST GENERALLY IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL MATERIAL FACADE AND MATERIALS AND, AND WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THOSE AND SO ULTIMATELY THERE WAS A GRADING OF A, B AND C, AND THERE WAS EVEN LIKE A, SOME PLUSES AND MINUSES THAT WENT IN THERE.AND SO ULTIMATELY THE PARTICULAR GRADING ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHETHER THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION OR NOT. BUT IT GIVES A GOOD INDICATION IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVEL OF INTEGRITY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE HISTORIC SURVEY INVENTORY THAT WAS COMPLETED IS MANY DECADES OLD.
AND SO THOSE RATINGS IN SOME CASES MIGHT BE A LITTLE STALE IF SOMEBODY HAS MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTY OR MAYBE IT HASN'T HAS, YOU KNOW, REMAINED UNTOUCHED FOR SOME TIME. AND SO IT GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, BUT IS DEFINITELY A GOOD REFERENCE POINT FOR CONSIDERATION OF PROPERTIES.
COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. SPJUTE. SPJUTE. I THOUGHT THE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE THE CITY, THE PRESENTATION REVIEWING ALL THE MATERIALS WARRANTS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROY.
YES, I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD. IT'S I THINK IT'S A, IT IS VERY EMBLEMATIC OF, OF REDONDO BEACH. AND IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF, OF ITS HISTORY.
SO THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. CHAIR MAROKO.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, THOUGH. IN THE PAPERWORK THAT'S CALLED THE ROE CLITES HOUSE, WHICH DOESN'T SHOW UP IN THE RESOLUTION AT ALL. AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BY A SEPARATE MOTION AFTER WE SAY THAT IT'S A LANDMARK PROPERTY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GETS INCORPORATED INTO THE RESOLUTION ITSELF? I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THE FIRST PART OF THAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S. WHAT. MOST OF OUR HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE CITY ARE REFERRED TO BY TITLE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE A COUPLE DOORS DOWN, YOU CAN SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS THE MARTIN HOUSE.
SO DOES THAT END UP WHEN YOU PUT IT ON YOUR WEBSITE? DOES THAT END UP BEING THE NAME ON IT? DO WE HAVE TO FORMALLY ADOPT SOMETHING OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK IF YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT IN YOUR ADOPTION, THEN THAT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO AND STAFF CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE RESOLUTION AND THEN THAT CAN CARRY ON WITH WITH THE PROPERTY.
OKAY. AND THEN AND THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR BOTH OF THEM.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT TIMING, IT HAS TO BE RECORDED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, CORRECT. FOR IT TO COUNT IN TWO YEARS. CORRECT.
YES. SO IF WE ADOPT THIS TONIGHT, THERE WILL BE TIME FOR THE CITY TO PUT THE RESOLUTION TOGETHER AND THEN HAVE THE CONTRACT PREPARED FOR THE COUNCIL? FOR BOTH PROPERTIES CORRECT.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. CHAIR MAROKO. CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AS FAR AS THE DESIGNATION FOR THE HOUSE? THE NAME, WHICH NAME DID YOU HAVE? SO THE MAJOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR THE LAST 50 PLUS YEARS ARE LEONARD ROE AND DIANE CLITES.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. WHEN IN THE PAST HOMES HAVE RECEIVED A PARTICULAR DESIGNATION, WHAT, WHAT WERE THE CRITERIA THAT THAT WE APPLIED TO THAT.
IS IT UP TO THE COMMISSION? IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
HE SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME ACROSS THE STREET. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY A WHO SONG HOUSE.
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YOU HAVE THE MARTIN HOUSE ON IT, I'M FORGETTING SOME OF THE NAMES OF THE OTHER HOUSES, BUT EACH OF THE HOUSES ON THAT BLOCK ACTUALLY DO HAVE NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.YEAH. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN THE CONTRACTS THEMSELVES, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, AGAIN, IF IT'S A SEPARATE RESOLUTION OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST BASICALLY HAVE AS PART OF WHATEVER WE ADOPT AS THE RESOLUTION.
DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT NAME DESIGNATION SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW, OR CAN IT BE DONE LATER WITHOUT SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS.
PROBABLY. MAYBE I CAN JUST PROVIDE SOME INPUT, I THINK.
I THINK IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE TO APPLY A NAME THIS EVENING IF THERE'S AN AGREEMENT TO COME BACK IN FOR JUST A NAME DESIGNATION SEEMS LIKE UNLESS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A DEBATE AND, YOU KNOW, MORE RESEARCH OR SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY.
WHAT, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO REVERT BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE INDICATIVE OF A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD? SO I'VE SPOKEN TO THE OWNER ABOUT THAT.
BASICALLY WITH ANY LANDMARK DESIGNATION PROPERTY, ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING TO THE PROPERTY ARE TO BE ADHERING TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR RESTORATION. SO AT THE TIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENTS ARE OCCURRING IS WHEN THOSE, THOSE MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE OCCURRING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SECRETARY, SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, AND THAT REALLY IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE MILLS ACT.
AND THE, THE GOAL OF THE MILLS ACT IS TO US WITH THOSE SAVINGS IN THE PROPERTY TAXES TO HELP IN THE RESTORATION EFFORT OF THESE HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS OVER TIME.
SO THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE MINOR ALTERATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A REVIEW.
USUALLY. YEAH. OKAY. SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN PROBABLY BY FIAT SAY THAT IF THERE'S NOBODY ELSE, YOU CAN CLOSE IT.
OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SECOND, SECOND THAT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. GREAT. SO AT THIS TIME, IF I BEG YOUR PARDON, I'LL CALL.
YOU CAN VOTE ON IT IF YOU WANT, OR IT DOESN'T MATTER.
OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER TELL ME AGAIN YOUR NAME. SPJUTE.
I'M IN FAVOR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROY? YES. COMMISSIONER MAROKO.
THIS IS TO CLOSE THE CLOSE. YEAH. YES. OKAY. AND I'M VOTING YES AS WELL.
AND NOW WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH OR WITHOUT A NAME DESIGNATION FOR THE HOUSE. OKAY. SO ARE YOU SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION? TO ADOPT IT WITH THE NAME AND THAT'S YOUR THAT'S THAT'S YOUR DECISION.
YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT WITH THE NAME ADDED TO IT.
I SECOND. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO IDENTIFY THE NAME OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WILL ADOPT IT BASED ON CHAIR MAROKO'S RECOMMENDATION? BASED ON HIS RECOMMENDATION? YES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. YES. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON THAT.
AYE. HAVE TO READ THE RESOLUTION. YES. ONE MOMENT.
I'M GETTING TO IT. IT'S ON THE AGENDA. YEP. SO J.2 RESOLUTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 521
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GARNET STREET PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING THE NAME OF THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS.ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ABSTAIN. OKAY. AND NOW WE ARE MOVING TO J.1 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING THE REQUEST FOR DESIGNATION OF THE BUILDING AND PROPERTY AT 519 GARNET STREET AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, THE APPLICANTS ARE DIANE CLITES LIVING TRUST AND DANIEL L CLITES TRUSTEE. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE. I MOTION TO OPEN IT. SECOND.
THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE TESTIMONY FROM STAFF, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 519 GARNET STREET.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE LEFT OR WEST OF WHAT WE THAT WE JUST VIEWED.
AGAIN, JUST SOME QUICK HIGH LEVEL CONTEXT ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, IT'S ALSO LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GARNET STREET WITHIN THE R-3 ZONING DESIGNATION.
THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT LISTED ON THE CITY'S HISTORIC SURVEY.
HOWEVER, IN REVIEW OF THE CITY'S RECORDS OF OTHER LANDMARK DESIGNATED PROPERTIES ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AT 517 WAS ALSO NOT DESIGNATED. AND I SURVEYED IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC INVENTORY, BUT ALSO WAS LANDMARK LISTED.
AGAIN, THERE ARE TEN ADJACENT HISTORIC PROPERTIES ALONG THIS BLOCK AS WELL AS THE ESTABLISHED, THE RECENTLY ESTABLISHED GARNET DISTRICT. HERE WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE HOME DURING ITS EARLIER PERIOD OF EXISTENCE, VERY SIMILAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITH SOME SLIGHT SUBTLETIES IN TERMS OF THE LARGE WINDOW IN THE FRONT.
THIS ONE HAS THE CLAPBOARD WOOD SIDING VERSUS THE BOARD AND BATTEN THAT WAS ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES, BUT IT DOES HAVE THE SAME HIP STYLED ROOF LARGE OVERHANGING EAVES.
AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE SIDED COVERED ENTRY PORCH.
SO THESE ARE ALL VERY STRONG CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS COTTAGE STYLE ARCHITECTURE FROM THE TIME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONDITIONS ARE STILL IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FACADE ARE STILL INTACT.
SIMILAR HERE WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE WOOD WINDOWS REPLACED WITH ALUMINUM WINDOWS.
SO AGAIN, SOME OF THE KEY CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES THAT I TOUCHED ON BEFORE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE, AS WELL AS THE ALUMINUM WINDOWS THAT I TOUCHED ON THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
SO IN TERMS OF THE PERMIT HISTORY. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED IN 1908 PER THE COUNTY ASSESSOR THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTIAL ALTERATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN 1937.
HOWEVER FROM THAT EARLIER PHOTO AS WELL AS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE IS ANY SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS THAT OCCURRED DURING THAT TIME FRAME, AS WELL AS TO CURRENT DATE. THERE WAS A PATIO COVER THAT WAS INSTALLED IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
SO SIMILAR TO THE OTHER PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE AN EXTENSIVE OWNER RESIDENT HISTORY.
I'M SORRY, 50 YEARS. AND HIS SISTER DIANE CLITES AS NOW THE CURRENT OWNER.
AND THAT'S A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE HISTORY.
AND AGAIN, SAME CRITERIA IN TERMS OF EVALUATION AND ELIGIBILITY FOR HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE IS REALLY ITS ASSOCIATION WITH THAT TIME AND SOCIOECONOMIC PERIOD WITHIN REDONDO BEACH IS REALLY A WORKING CLASS COASTAL BEACH CITY
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THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF ITS OWNERS BEING ONE OF THE PRIESTS IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE MECHANICS.SO DEFINITELY THIS STYLE OF HOME WAS REFLECTIVE OF THAT PERIOD OF DEVELOPMENT AND HOME HOME STYLE AS WELL AS IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY DISTINCT OF THAT PERIOD.
AND THEN AGAIN, A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE OVERALL BLOCK IN THAT AREA AND THE NUMBER OF HISTORIC LANDMARKS, AS WELL AS THE GARNET STREET DISTRICT. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MAKE SUPPORT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS WELL AS THE CEQA DETERMINATION THAT IT IS EXEMPT.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROY. NO QUESTIONS.
CHAIR MAROKO. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN ON ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL OR ARE YOU GOOD? PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING BUT TO SIMPLIFY. WOULD YOU COME? WOULD YOU COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IT'S IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
BUT TO MAKE THE NAME ON THE PROPERTY EASIER, IT WOULD BE ROE BECAUSE THAT'S MY MOM'S MAIDEN NAME.
AND MY UNCLE WAS THE ONE THAT BOUGHT BOTH OF THE HOUSES.
SO OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIM, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST.
IS ROE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION INITIALLY WAS THE THOMPSON NAGEL HOME, BECAUSE THEY WERE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AND DIDN'T THINK THAT HAVING TWO PROPERTIES ON THE SAME BLOCK WITH THE NAME ROEE WOULD WOULD ADD TO SOME CONFUSION. BUT. OH, OKAY.
I LIKE YOUR THOUGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS PANEL CAN CONSIDER IF THEY WANT.
THE SECOND PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY NAMED AFTER YOUR UNCLE.
SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK? THERE IS NOBODY ONLINE. OKAY.
WITH NOBODY ONLINE AND HAVING HEARD FROM STAFF AND MEMBERS INTERESTED PARTIES CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. AYE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANK YOU. AYE AS WELL. AND SO NOW WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ITEM.
SO LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE HERE. CHAIR MAROKO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? YEAH. THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAD A MUCH MORE FASCINATING HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE OVER TIME.
AS OUR STAFF PERSON INDICATED, THIS IS A WORKING CLASS AREA.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE AND THE REASON YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE IS IT BASICALLY EMBODIED THE EARLY PARTS OF REDONDO BEACH WHERE PEOPLE COULD BARELY AFFORD HOMES AND THEY WERE WORKING CLASS. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE OUR OUR REPRESENTATIVES UNCLE WAS I THINK A PAINTER OVER AT ONE OF THE AIR, THE AIR AEROSPACE COMPANIES.
SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY WITH WHAT HE WAS A PAINTER AND A FORKLIFT OPERATOR.
YEAH. SO SO AGAIN, IT EMBODIES THE WORKING CLASS ROOTS IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE TIME.
YOU MAY WANT TO EXPLAIN DURING THAT TIME ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES AND HOW THAT'S FIGURED OUT.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER MY FIRST TIME WHEN I HAD TO GO DEAL WITH ONE OF THESE LANDMARK ISSUES, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT CAN COME UP THAT JUST UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. SO IT MAY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE PROPERTY TAXES AND HOW THAT'S IMPACTED AND HOW IT'S CALCULATED.
I THINK, I THINK WE CAN DO IT LATER. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? I'M SORRY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROY? NO COMMENTS.
NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. NO COMMENTS.
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OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY ON THE CEQA DETERMINATION FOR THIS ONE.THE CEQA DETERMINATION PROJECT ADDRESS LISTS 519 BUT WITHIN THE BODY IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IT SAYS THE PROPERTY AT 521 GARNET SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A TYPO.
YEAH. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE RESOLUTION. THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION.
OH GOTCHA. YEAH. WE CAN MAKE THAT MODIFICATION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHEN WE GO TO VOTE ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
WITH A CORRECTION TO THAT PARTICULAR PAGE. AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S REALLY GRATIFYING TO BE ABLE TO ADD TO AN ALREADY HISTORIC DISTRICT ON GARNET STREET.
SO I DO KNOW THAT STREET. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL STREET.
WE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CITY, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO MAKE THINGS AFFORDABLE FOR FOLKS TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WELL, THAT IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HAVE HOMES THAT NOT ONLY ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD, BUT IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE. NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE IN A PARTICULAR SIZE HOUSE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND I REALLY HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR OTHER COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SO IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND I'M SORRY CHAIR MAROKO, WHO WHAT WAS THE NAME THAT YOU WERE RECOMMENDING AS FAR AS? I WAS RECOMMENDING THE THOMPSON NAGEL HOME, WHICH REPRESENTS TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE FIRST HALF, FIRST 50 YEARS OF THE HOME. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH NAMING IT THE LEONARD ROEE HOME EITHER, SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT WHICH YOU THINK IS MORE APPROPRIATE OR FOR SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.
I, I HAD A A THOUGHT ON THAT ACTUALLY. I WAS WONDERING MAYBE IF WE WOULD CONSIDER THE REVEREND HUDSON HOUSE. THERE'S ALREADY ONE IN THE CITY, SO IT'S ACROSS THE STREET ACTUALLY.
AND THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. CHAIR MAROKO.
I THINK I HAVE A NOTEBOOK WITH ALL THE NAMES OF THE HOMES IN THE HISTORICAL ON GARNET.
I SHARE THE CONCERN WITH HAVING MULTIPLE HOMES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH THE SAME LAST NAME.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION? I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, INCLUDING THE THOMPSON HOME AS A NAME.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CHAIR MAROKO YOU'RE ABSTAINING AND I'M AN AYE AS WELL.
SO THAT MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS. AND SO LET'S SEE HERE. I'LL TURN IT BACK TO ME. I NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
I HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE PAGE. PARDON ME. OKAY.
SO RESOLUTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 519 GARNET STREET.
PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR, TITLE TEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING THE NAMES THOMPSON NAGEL AS THE OFFICIAL DESIGNATION OF THE HOUSE.
ALL RIGHT. AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO YOU, CHAIR MAROKO.
CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE.
SHAWN, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO IN REGARDS TO YOUR MOTHER AND I APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM THE,
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THE NEW COMMISSIONERS ON IT. AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THROWN INTO THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.YOUR FIRST MEETING, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE WERE HAVING THEM.
THAT'S WHAT THE URGENCY WAS TO GET YOU ON THIS COMMISSION.
YOU'LL SEE THIS IS ONE OF THE PROACTIVE THINGS WE GET TO DO ON THE COMMISSION ITSELF.
[N. COMMISSION REFERRALS TO STAFF]
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE, THAT WE'D LOVE TO, AT LEAST FROM OVER THE MONTHS, GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE.SO I'M. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER GALASSI.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO? STAFF. NOT IN PARTICULAR AT THIS TIME, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REFER TO STAFF? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. NOT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. SO I GOT A LONG LIST, AND MOST OF IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL THING AS WELL.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE A CLG YEAR ENDING COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO IS THERE, I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS WHAT THE CLG IS ALL ABOUT? WHAT THERE? WHAT KIND OF PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM THEM IS GOING TO GO IN? HOW DO THEY MODIFY IT IF THEY WANT TO MODIFY THEIR, THEIR PAPERWORK THAT GETS ATTACHED TO IT.
SO HOPING YOU COULD AT LEAST ADDRESS THAT AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF MY LIST.
SURE. NO, THAT'S GREAT TO BRING UP. BECAUSE AS PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES HERE IN REVIEWING HISTORIC PROPERTIES, AS THE CITY IS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THE CITY HAS HAD ITS HISTORIC PRESERVATION CODE REVIEWED BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF ALIGNMENT WITH STATE AND NATIONAL CRITERIA OR FEDERAL CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND MAKES THE CITY ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD AND BENEFICIAL THING TO BE A PART OF AS WELL AS IT HELPS ALIGN THE REVIEWS OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH CEQA.
AND SO ULTIMATELY, AS PART OF ALL OF THAT, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO AS COMMISSIONER MAROKO MENTIONED IS TO COMPLETE AN ANNUAL REPORT. THE REPORTING PERIOD IS BASICALLY FROM THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND BASICALLY REPORTING IN TERMS OF THE RELATIVE ACTIVITIES DESIGNATIONS WHAT IS THE CITY'S PROCESS? HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS JUST TO GET A GAUGE ON IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES IN.
SO AS PART OF THAT, THAT'S ONE PIECE TO IT. THE OTHER PIECE AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE COMMISSION IS ESSENTIALLY CONTINUED EDUCATION THAT CAN COME IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS FROM STAFF PRESENTATIONS IN TERMS OF EDUCATING ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND MILLS ACT SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO MANY OTHER TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING'S ONLINE NOW. AND SO CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN AND PUTS OUT A LOT OF REALLY GREAT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME BUDGET TO PAY FOR THOSE.
THEY, THEY DO STUFF ALMOST EVERY MONTH. AND SO IT'S EASY TO HOP ON AND ACCESS AND SOMETIMES IT'S AN HOUR, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, HALF A DAY. THEY ALSO HAVE A STATE STATEWIDE CONFERENCE THAT'S USUALLY A COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND SO THAT'S A GREAT TRAINING OPPORTUNITY TO GET EITHER SOMETHING REALLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SMALL AND CONCISE OR, YOU KNOW MORE AND SO. WE WILL BE CIRCULATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE TRAININGS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE. AND SO THE MINIMUM IS REALLY TO PARTICIPATE IN AT LEAST ONE TRAINING A YEAR.
STAFF MAY BE PROVIDING AT LEAST ONE TRAINING A YEAR.
SO IF YOU'RE SHOWING UP TO ONE OF THESE HEARINGS, THEN YOU WOULD BE GETTING THAT.
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CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS PART OF THAT ANNUAL REPORTING, IT INCLUDES A DOCUMENTATION OR RESUMES, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND AS WELL AS STAFF ON THERE YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOCUSED EXPERIENCE OR RELATED EXPERIENCES TO BE INCORPORATED IN AND THAT IS ANNUALLY. SO DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE PERSONAL INFORMATION IN TERMS OF LIKE CONTACT PHONE NUMBERS AND WHATNOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERAL RESUME OF EXPERIENCE.AND SO WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU AS, AS, AS PART, AS ONCE THE REPORTING IS COMING UP SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY TUNE UPS OR ADJUSTMENTS TO ANY OF YOUR DOCUMENTATION.
AND SO THEN ONCE IT SUBMITTED WE'LL OR IN ADVANCE OF SUBMITTING WE'LL PROVIDE A KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE REPORTING TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, AND THAT ALSO HELPS IN A LITTLE PIECE OF TRAINING AS WELL.
AND ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH I'VE, YOU KNOW, SERVED ON PRESERVATION FOR THREE YEARS AND TWO YEARS ON PUBLIC AMENITIES, I'M GOING TO BE TAKING THIS PARTICULAR WORKSHOP BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO BE GLEANED FROM THAT.
THERE'S ALSO ONE ON SAVING HISTORIC SIGNS. IT COULD BE OF POSSIBLY OF INTEREST FOR US AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY SIGNS HERE IN REDONDO, BUT IT'S THAT ONE'S COMING UP ON AUGUST 27TH.
THAT ONE'S AN EASY ONE TO GET ONLINE. I, WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WAS WORRIED BECAUSE I'M MAKING DECISIONS ON THINGS THAT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN. AND IT REALLY KIND OF BRINGS YOU UP TO SPEED REALLY QUICKLY.
AND THEY'RE GOOD PROGRAMS, SOME OF THEM ARE AN HOUR, WHICH ARE USUALLY FREE, AND SOME OF THEM GO FOR THREE HOURS, LIKE THE ONE WITH THE SIGNS WHICH. SPEAKING OF WHICH, I'M GOING TO ENDEAVOR ON A SIGN SURVEY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY TIPS OR ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP ASSESS IT.
I WENT TO THE NEON SIGN PROGRAM ALREADY AND I'M GOING TO DO THE ONE ON THE 29TH, BUT I ONE OF THE POINTS I KEPT ON EMPHASIZING IS YOU GOT TO DO A SURVEY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY TIPS ON THAT OR YOU GUYS WANT TO JOIN ALONG, IT'S JUST A WALKING TOUR OF THE AREA. SO JUST YOU CAN PASS THAT ON IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT.
WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST AND I'VE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE ON THE GATEWAY SIGN.
IS THERE ANYTHING BEING DONE ON THAT ON THE CITY'S END AS FAR AS EITHER PRESERVING THAT SIGN OR DOING SOMETHING WITH THE SIGN OR PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROCESS? I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE GATEWAY SIGN, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RESPOND BACK TO YOU ON.
OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALSO RESPONDED TO ME WHEN WE WERE DOING A HISTORIC DISTRICT SIGN, AND YOU CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AND THEN I SAID, MAYBE IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. THERE'S A SIGN THAT'S ALREADY WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROCESS.
WE ORIGINALLY SENT IT UP TO COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR A FONT CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT.
SO DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE HISTORIC THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SIGN? I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHERE THAT IS AT.
OKAY. THE LANDMARK SIDEWALK PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BE IN OUR COMMITTEE REPORT AGAIN, BUT PUT BASICALLY PUTTING SOME SORT OF MARKER IN FRONT OF EACH LANDMARK THAT RECOGNIZES IT.
SO IF YOU KNOW ANY GREAT. IF NOT, CAN YOU PLEASE REFER IT ON TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF? ALL RIGHT. CLG GRANTS YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
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DO YOU HAVE AN INVENTORY OF GRANTS THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT AND AT LEAST TRY TO HELP YOU PREPARE? SO THERE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THE CLG GRANT, GRANTS, BUT IN TERMS OF I THINK THAT THERE'S A RANGE OF ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA IN TERMS OF EFFORTS THAT THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO.AND SO I THINK IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT IS THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT GRANTS AND, AND FOCUS OF WHAT THAT GRANT WOULD BE IN TERMS OF PURSUING.
OKAY. AND IF YOU CAN TELL US WHEN THE DEADLINES ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT'S COMING UP WILDERNESS PARK LANDMARK, THE MAYOR, I GUESS, REQUESTED THAT WE GO TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY OF THE FILES FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THAT I GAVE HIM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? OUR LAST EMAIL EXCHANGE WAS YOU WERE GOING TO SEND THOSE DOCUMENTS TO ME.
OKAY. SO IF YOU CAN FORWARD THOSE TO ME, THEN I CAN WE CAN BEGIN WORKING ON THAT.
OKAY. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE COUNCIL ASKING THEM TO AMEND THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT TO BASICALLY INCLUDE WHAT'S COMMONLY NOW CALLED THE KEVIN ADDENDUM, THAT IF YOU ARE IN YOUR LANDMARK PROPERTY, THAT MAY BE PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
GEOGRAPHY, GEOGRAPHICALLY THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE CONSENT AS PART OF YOUR MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
AGAIN, I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES, BUT THE WAY IT WAS LEFT WITH THE COUNCIL IS IT HAS TO COME FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT, TO MAKE THAT PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL.
AND SINCE WE HAVE TWO TWO HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMING UP FOR FROM MILLS ACT CONTRACTS IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO REVISIT IT AND SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO THROW IN THE LANGUAGE.
THAT WOULD ALLOW CERTAIN PROPERTIES TO BE INCLUDED AS, AS PART OF THE DISTRICT THAT ARE LANDMARKED ALREADY BECAUSE BENEFITS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. SO IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SORRY. AND HAVE YOU APPROACHED KEVIN AT ALL RECENTLY? BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE. ARE YOU SAYING KEVIN AMENDMENT AS IN THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER OR ARE YOU SAYING A STATEWIDE THE STATE HAS MADE AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE, RIGHT NOW THE PROGRAM IS OPT IN.
YEAH. I'M CONFUSED. IS THIS A STATE AMENDMENT THAT OCCURRED? IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT. OKAY. AN ADDENDUM. SO WE HAVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT THAT COMES OUT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
AND IT BASICALLY GIVES CERTAIN PROPERTY TAX BENEFITS, AS YOU KNOW, TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
RIGHT. AND AND THAT'S WHEN THEY BECOME A LANDMARK, RIGHT? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED WHEN THEY ARE BECOMING A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
PART OF THE. BUT THE CONTRACT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY CONSENTED TO BE PART OF THE LANDMARK.
AND SO IT STILL RUNS WITH THE LAND. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ADDENDUM IS.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WOULD. SO BUT THIS IS NOT A STATE THING.
THIS IS A ORIGINATED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. NO, THIS IS OUR CONTRACT.
MILLS ACT CONTRACTS ARE PRETTY STANDARDIZED TEMPLATES.
UNDERSTOOD. NO I UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU. OKAY.
AND FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE MILLS ACTS AS WE DIFFERED ON THAT? SURE. SO THE MILLS ACT. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS ESTABLISHED AS PART OF A I THINK IT WAS LIKE A SENATOR IN CALIFORNIA MILLS. NO SURPRISE THERE.
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YOU KNOW USUALLY UNDER CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE JUST DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, AGE PERIOD AND AND WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING THESE PROPERTIES. AND SO ULTIMATELY IT OFFERED THROUGH AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CLG TO BE ABLE TO OFFER MILLS ACTS. SO ANY CITY CAN REALLY ENTER INTO A MILLS ACT AGREEMENT.SO IT'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND BASICALLY IT'S A ROLLING TEN YEAR TERM. SO EVERY YEAR IT EXTENDS A YEAR, BUT IT'S TEN YEARS THAT THERE'S A PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS THAT GOES WITH THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO, WELL, HOW MUCH AM I GOING TO SAVE? IF YOU'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR 50 YEARS, PROP 13 IS GOING TO BE, IT BASICALLY TAKES, IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS.
ONE IS PROP 13 AND WHERE YOU SIT WITH THAT IT ALSO LOOKS AT WHAT'S CALLED THE INCOME CAPITALIZATION RATE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY LOOKS AT THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD BE ABLE TO RENT FOR.
IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT COSTS AND EXPENDITURES FOR MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY.
THEY ALSO LOOK TO SEE IS THIS OWNER OCCUPIED? IS IT A RENTAL PROPERTY? AND SO IT FACTORS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE COUNTY ASSESSOR BASICALLY GOES THROUGH AND DOES AN ANALYSIS TO SEE, OKAY, WHAT IS THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? BECAUSE IN MANY CASES, IF YOU JUST PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THEN AND YOU'RE GOING TO THE MILLS ACT, THEN YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE SEEING THE BEST PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS THERE, WHICH CAN BE CLOSE TO 50%.
AND ONE GREAT THING ABOUT THE MILLS ACT IS THAT ONCE IT'S RECORDED AND APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY, IT'S TRANSFERABLE WITH ZERO EFFORT. SO ONCE THE MILLS ACT AGREEMENT IS COMPLETED AND FINALIZED THE CITY RECORDS THAT AT THE COUNTY RECORDS THE PROPERTY AND IT TRANSFERS. A COUPLE OF THINGS RELATED TO THE MILLS ACT IS LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S A KIND OF LIKE A ROLLING TEN YEARS IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT.
AND SO IF AT ANY POINT IN TIME A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO NO LONGER PARTICIPATE IN THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS OF EXITING FROM THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THE MILLS ACT.
AND SO IT'S IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM TO ALLOW PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONTINUALLY MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTIES WHICH CAN BE VERY COSTLY. AND SO IT IS. AND IT IS ONE OF THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT MANY CITIES OFFER.
THAT'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE MILLS ACT FOR YOU.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY ON THE WEBSITE, A WHOLE COLORFUL BROCHURE THAT EXPLAINS THE TIMING ON IT.
OKAY. SO YOU HAD SOMETHING. YEAH. SORRY. I WHEN I SAID BEFORE THAT I HAD NO REFERRALS.
I MEANT NO NEW REFERRALS AS IN WHAT I HAD INCLUDED IN THE BLUE FOLDER, THE REFERRAL TO STAFF FOR THE, THE PROPERTIES ON PCH, THOSE HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU SAW THOSE, THOSE FOUR.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THEM ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY FOR THE HISTORIC REGISTER, BUT I WAS REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE A GROUPING OF FOUR, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON.
ALL FOUR PROPERTIES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS THERE.
SO MIGHT BE MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO FOLLOW UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE WOULD BE GREAT TO NOT ONLY LANDMARK, BUT MAYBE DO A LITTLE HISTORIC DISTRICT RIGHT THERE.
OKAY. AND WE HEARD FROM ONE OF OUR PUBLIC MEMBERS TODAY ABOUT THIS CULTURAL DISTRICT, THE BRAZILIAN CULTURAL DISTRICT. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN EXPLORE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, OR IS THAT YEAH, I, I WILL BE EXPLORING AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT TOO.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, BUT IT SOUNDS REALLY INTERESTING.
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AREA. SO IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH EXPLORING FOR SURE.AND THAT I THINK IS IN OUR ORDINANCE AS WELL.
SO BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO. OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF REFERRALS TO STAFF THAT ARE FOLLOW UPS FOR OUR LIAISON. WE HAD ASKED IN JUNE ABOUT HAVING OTHER DEPARTMENTS COME TO OUR MEETINGS ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS. AND I DO APPRECIATE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMING TODAY.
AND I SEE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES AS WELL.
DID YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANYBODY ON WHETHER THAT'S DOABLE? OKAY. SO THEY SAY BESIDES CONVEYING IT, DID THEY SAY THAT THEY WOULD.
WE KNOW. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DIRECT FEEDBACK ON THAT.
WE DO TRY TO COMMUNICATE ALL THE REFERRALS IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LIAISONS, AND I THINK BY AND LARGE, THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF FOLLOWING UP.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY SPECIFIC ON A REGULAR ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETINGS.
OKAY. THERE WAS ALSO A REFERRAL FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE NEEDS ANALYSIS YOU DID IN THE LAST REPORT.
I DON'T THINK I SAW ANYTHING ON THIS REPORT ON IT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS ON PROGRESS.
SO WE DO HAVE I DON'T WANT TO SAY A PLAN YET, BUT I THINK THE EFFORT IS TO WORK ON COALESCING AROUND A PLAN TO BRING TO COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND INPUT.
SO THAT IS FORTHCOMING. I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ETA ON THAT, BUT I JUST MET WITH STAFF THIS WEEK, SO WE HOPE TO BRING BACK A PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF GIVES OUR IDEAS AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD AND GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT FROM ALL STAKEHOLDERS AND GATHERING INFORMATION SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WELL INFORMED BY THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY. WELL, MY LAST QUESTION. WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT ONE OF THE LIBRARY COMMISSION ABOUT HAVING A MAP ROOM, A MAP THAT HAS ALL THE STUFF. WELL, I THINK I FOUND A BETTER PLACE FOR DOING MAPS DESPITE WHERE THE PHONE BOOKS USED TO BE.
BUT IT'S UNUSED SPACE AND IT WOULD BE REALLY EASY TO PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER.
THANK YOU. OKAY. AND DID YOU ALSO GIVE OUR NEW MEMBERS THE LIBRARY TOUR? I GAVE COMMISSIONER ROY A TOUR. I HAVE YET TO GIVE COMMISSIONER SPJUTE A TOUR.
OKAY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, THOUGH. SEE, WE HAVE ONE ON THE TOP NOTCH LIBRARIES IN THE AREA, AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE TOP NOTCH DIRECTORS FOR THE LIBRARY IN THE AREA, SO IT'S REALLY A TREAT.
YEAH. I WOULD SUGGEST YOU YOU FIND TIME TO DO IT.
IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND A GREAT FACILITY.
THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT THEN. OKAY.
SO IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS FOR STAFF THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ORDER WHICH IS ITEM K. CONTINUED ITEM FROM PREVIOUS AGENDA. AS WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
NO. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION, WE ALREADY WENT OVER L.1.
[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
L.2 IS THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW AND PROJECT UPDATE.SO WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN.
SO WE CAN, WE EVALUATE EVERY OCTOBER IN OUR MEETING.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING TO YOU BY ALL MEANS, WE CAN HAVE YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THE, WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AT THIS POINT. AND WE'VE LISTED ON, IT'S PART OF THE AGENDA ON ITEM L.2, WHICH IS A LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO WE HAVE AN, WELL, COMMISSIONER LANG IS STILL ON THIS COMMITTEE UNTIL WE ADJOURN AS FAR AS I KNOW, BUT SO WE MAY HAVE 1 OR 2 OPENINGS ON THE MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE.
DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE WHAT YOU GUYS DO ON THAT? YES. SO THE MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE BASICALLY REVIEWS MINOR ALTERATIONS TO LANDMARK DESIGNATED PROPERTIES.
SO WE MAY GET A REPLACEMENT OF A DOOR OR WINDOWS.
EXCUSE ME. SIDING SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING IN PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR,
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I'D SAY. SO IT USED TO BE MORE FREQUENT WHEN WHEN THE PRESERVATION WHEN IT WAS THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.SO IT'S POSSIBLE. YOU NEVER KNOW. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING TO THEIR HOMES.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE NICE. IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG.
USUALLY IT'S MAYBE HALF AN HOUR WORTH OF YOUR TIME FOR THE MEETING.
AND WE DO THEM VIA ZOOM. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A REPORT? NOT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. NO, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE COMMITTEES IF YOU GUYS WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
SO THE FACILITIES USER SUBCOMMITTEE THAT ONE IS BASICALLY BEEN COMPLETELY GUTTED AT THIS POINT.
AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT ENDS UP HAVING YOU'RE ON A BOARD OF LITTLE LEAGUE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SUNSET WAS ONE OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY USE.
AND YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PARKS, I THINK FOR FOR REDONDO.
REDONDO. SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTERACTION AND GETTING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE LEAGUE LEAGUES THEMSELVES OR USERS AYSO FOR THE SOCCER FIELD OR WE EVEN HAD A REQUEST REGARDING USE OF AFTER SCHOOL FACILITIES FOR DIFFERENT KIND OF PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
I'M SORRY. I WAS TO APOLOGIZE, TO INTERRUPT. I THINK ALL THE POINTS YOU MAKE ARE VERY RELEVANT.
BUT THE IDEA AS LIAISON THAT I HAD WAS TO BRING BACK A DISCUSSION ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES IN THE FUTURE SO THAT NEW COMMISSIONERS COULD DISCUSS EACH OF THE SUB COMMITTEES, POTENTIALLY NEW COMMITTEES.
THIS PARTICULAR DESIGNATION ON THE AGENDA IS MOSTLY FOR UPDATES FROM SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND TO YOUR POINT, MANY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE IMPACTED BY THE RECENT LOSS OF COMMISSIONERS.
BUT YOU'RE FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE UPDATES ON THE COMMISSIONS, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTHY TO AGENDIZE A SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION ITEM WHEN THE COMMISSION IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FULL.
YEAH. EXCEPT OCTOBER, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WHOLE EXERCISE WITH THE WHOLE SEVEN PEOPLE.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE A SEPTEMBER MEETING OR NOT COMING UP.
BUT IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HERE WANT TO START FOR THE TWO.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING THROUGH IT. VOLUNTEER ACKNOWLEDGMENT PROGRAM SUBCOMMITTEE.
AGAIN, THAT ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY GUTTED. SO BUT THAT'S WHERE WE PRESENT TO THE PARKS AND REC'S VOLUNTEER AN AWARD AND THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS INVOLVED WITH IT.
AND MAYBE WE CAN GET ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO BE ON IT TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT SEEMED, IT SEEMED LONG AND HOW IT WAS DONE. BUT I ASSUME THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSIONER ROWE SAID THERE WAS THINGS IN THE PIPELINE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PIPELINE IS AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. BRINGING HISTORY TO COMMUNITY SUBCOMMITTEE, THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY TO DO PROJECTS THAT EMPHASIZE HISTORY. IT CAME OUT OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
SO IT'S LIKE WE HAVE THE OUTSIDE THE PATH OF HISTORY MARKER.
THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID. I'M NOT SHOWING THE DESIGN, BUT WE DO HAVE A PARK THAT'S DEDICATED TO A FAMILY THAT WAS IN THE WORLD WAR TWO WERE TAKEN FROM THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S DEDICATED TO THEM AND WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED. AND THEN ALSO ABOUT THE INTERNMENT CAMP, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY.
SO WE'RE HOPING IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROJECTS. THE MATERIALS, THE SIGNS ARE BEING FABRICATED.
NOW, THAT'S NOT HOTLY, I CAN DISCLOSE THAT. I'VE BEEN DISCLOSING THAT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO COME UP AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT 4 OR 5 WEEKS, HOPEFULLY FOR BEING DISTRIBUTED. SO THAT'S THE BRINGING HISTORY TO COMMISSION.
I HAVE NO NEW REPORT OTHER THAN THE SIGNS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE IN FABRICATION.
SO WE'LL BE PICKING A LOCATION IN THE ITO PARK OPEN SPACE SHORTLY.
AND THEN WE'LL TURN OUR ATTENTION TO MORE PASSIVE HISTORY STUFF.
FRANKLIN PARK SUBCOMMITTEE. YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE AND YOUR THINKING ON THAT ONE? SO FRANKLIN PARK I SERVED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THIS AND WE BASICALLY HAD INPUT ON AN ALL
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ABILITIES PLAYGROUND AND IT IT'S GOING TO LOOK FABULOUS.IT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED AS I HEAR IN SEPTEMBER.
SO REALLY OUR WORK IS PRETTY MUCH DONE FOR THAT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SUNSET THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.
THAT WAY WE CAN JUST TAKE IT OFF OUR LIST. SO IS THAT A MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE FRANKLIN PARK PLAYGROUND SUBCOMMITTEE.
OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? NO. NO. OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE WORDS TERMINATE OR CLOSED OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CALL IT? TERMINATE. THAT'S FINE. TERMINATE THE FRANKLIN PARK PLAYGROUND SUBCOMMITTEE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT TO BE ADDED TO OUR INVENTORY.
ALTA VISTA PARK PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE. COMMISSIONER GALASSI.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN TO ALTA VISTA PARK, WE HAD ONE OF THE COURTS THAT WERE FORMERLY A TENNIS COURT WAS CONVERTED TO FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND THERE IS A NET THAT SEPARATES TWO COURTS AND TWO COURTS.
HOWEVER, THOSE SIDES ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STRAY BALLS TO GO INTO THE OTHER COURTS, AND THEY'RE USUALLY COMING FROM BEHIND YOU SO YOU DON'T SEE THEM. SO SOMETIMES FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO PUT A LINE OF THEIR PICKLEBALL BAGS.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL TURN OVER THE GARBAGE CAN OR PUT A BENCH THERE.
SO THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, NOT APPROPRIATE AND ALSO A SAFETY HAZARD.
SO WE HAD ASKED WE HAD ASKED COMMUNITY SERVICES IF THEY COULD GET THESE LITTLE SCREENS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PLACED THERE. THEY'RE REMOVABLE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW.
HOWEVER, I DO NOT WANT TO CLOSE THIS COMMITTEE JUST YET BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ONGOING THINGS THAT COULD COME UP AND QUESTIONS REGARDING OPEN PLAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, ARE ALLOWED FOR OPEN PLAY BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS A, A TOPIC THAT'S COME UP. IT WAS FLUCTUATING BETWEEN 30 AND 40 PEOPLE.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO PLAY.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN UNTIL THAT SORT OF SETTLES DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
CHAIR. OKAY. AND THEN THE PRESERVATION OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? I DO, I HAVE A REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED. WE HAD A MEETING WITH JOHN CIAMPA ON A, A FUTURE EVENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AT THE HISTORIC LIBRARY ON NOVEMBER 21ST.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED A POTENTIAL TIME PERIOD OF 10 A.M.
TO 12:30 P.M., WITH BLOCKS OF TIME BEFORE AND AFTERWARD FOR SETUP, AND THE COMMITTEE REPORT IS PRETTY DETAILED, SO IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET US AN ANSWER AS TO IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THE GIS FOR, YES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A YES. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO OUTREACH TO THOSE 150 OR SO LANDMARK PROPERTY OWNERS.
THOSE ARE THE FOLKS TO WHICH WE WILL SEND US MAIL NOTIFICATION OF THIS PARTICULAR EVENT.
AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON MONDAY MORNING. I HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR ORTA THAT I HAD EMAILED AND SENT HER A FOLLOW UP EMAIL BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME LOOSE ENDS THAT WITHOUT HER WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT EXACTLY THE AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE CITY AND MADE BY MEG AS FAR AS WHAT WHAT WE CAN USE, WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US AS FAR AS TABLES AND CHAIRS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME LIGHT REFRESHMENTS, COFFEE,
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TEA, THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE HAVE SOME OPEN QUESTIONS FOR THAT.AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A, A GOOD BUDGET.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR REPORT? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I GUESS NOT. THE NEXT ONE NEXT TO YOU IS ON TO.
THERE WE GO. NO, I THINK WE HAD A VERY. I THINK WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE FIRST MEETING.
A LOT HAS BEEN LAID OUT. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT MOMENTUM BUILDING FROM THE RIVIERA VILLAGE OUTREACH EFFORT. AND SO THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION.
AND I EXPECT IT TO BE A REALLY GREAT EVENT. OKAY.
GREAT. YEAH, I DO TOO. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF ANYBODY'S BEEN TO THE HISTORIC LIBRARY, IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL IN THERE. SO IT'S EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO DO AN EVENT THERE.
THIS ONE CAME TO US FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY INITIALLY WANTED US TO WRITE A HISTORY SO THAT THEY COULD DO THE SCULPTURE FROM THAT COMMUNITY CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION IS DOING.
BUT THEY HAD COME BACK TO US TWO YEARS EARLIER ASKING US TO WRITE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
SO IF YOU READ THE JUNE MINUTES, IT KIND OF GOES THROUGH WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
I ATTEMPTED TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL. I CAN'T FIT MY SPEAKING INTO THREE MINUTES FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO THEY SENT ME ON MY WAY. AND THEN LAST MONTH, THIS COMMISSION APPROVED ME SENDING A LETTER TO COUNCIL THAT EXPLAINED SOME OF THE OPTIONS. AND I'M HOPING, IT WAS HOPING THAT COMMISSIONER LANG WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF HELPING WITH THE EDITING SO WE CAN GIVE IT TO OUR LIAISON TO TENDER TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I HAVEN'T MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT.
BUT IT IS ALL IN THE JUNE JUNE MINUTES. IF YOU WANT TO READ ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, AND THERE'S A WHOLE PACKET IN THERE ON THE AGENDA PACKET THAT TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT CITIES THAT DO THAT. AND THAT'S MY REPORT ON THAT.
PRESERVATION RECOGNITION PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR INPUT FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON IT BECAUSE IT INVOLVES IT.
AND MOST OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF IT'S GOING TO BE PRIVATELY FUNDED, NOT PUBLICLY FUNDED BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, THIS WAS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS DESIGNED BECAUSE ONCE A YEAR OR MAYBE TWICE A YEAR, WE GET A REQUEST FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO GIVE SOME SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT GOES IN THE BUDGET. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER YOUSUFZAI, WHO IS AGAIN AN EXPERT ON THAT, CAME UP WITH A STRUCTURE TO DO THAT. SO WHEN THEY DID COME TO US, WE COULD SAY, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE WANTED TO DO AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EASE INTO THE PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING MULTIPLE MEETINGS.
YOU WILL FIND THAT TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT, AND WE MAY, AT THE END OF A MEETING SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO AGENDIZE SOMETHING, AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU PROPERLY GET IT.
BUT WE CAN HAVE INSTANCES WHERE STAFF SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT.
BUT IT'S KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BUDGET.
SO THOSE ARE THE COMMITTEE REPORTS. MY RECOMMENDATION IF THERE IS A COMMITTEE THAT YOU WANT TO BE ON YOU CAN SAY IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE FOUR OF US.
SO IF THREE OF US WANT TO GET TOGETHER AND BE PART OF AN EXISTING COMMITTEE, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST CONTACT SOMEBODY EITHER MYSELF OR COMMISSIONER GALASSI TO, YOU KNOW, SAY, HEY, I WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY FORMAL ACTION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT.
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YOU CAN TELL US BY THE NEXT MEETING. YOU CAN ALWAYS GET IN TOUCH WITH US THROUGH OUR LIAISON.AND YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT WAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
YEAH. I WILL SAY THAT I DO HAVE INTEREST IN THE FACILITIES USER SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND AT SOME POINT, IF YOU WANT ASSISTANCE, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT. JUST SO YOU KIND OF GET COMFORTABLE AND GET YOUR MOMENTUM GOING.
AND YOU'LL BE THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE. SOUNDS GREAT.
YEAH. AND THEN COME OCTOBER 1ST, WE WILL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND REALLOCATE IT AND DECIDE HOW LONG THESE COMMITTEES SHOULD BE AROUND FOR, WHICH IS USUALLY THE FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT TODAY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. OKAY, GREAT.
I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEM L.2. NOW WE MOVE UP.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THAT STUFF THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT? I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. OKAY. I'LL SECOND.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. BY THE WAY, THAT'S JACK MEYER. HE IS THE CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER IN THE CITY.
HE'S THE LIAISON TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO HE'S REALLY WORTH GETTING TO KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
OKAY. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO ITEM M WHICH IS THE ITEMS FROM STAFF IS STAFF.
[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]
THERE'S NO L.3. NOT ON THE AGENDA. THAT WAS THE THE GATEWAY PARK.NEW AMENITIES. OKAY. BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE AGENDA ONCE IT'S PUBLISHED TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. IT WAS A TYPO. YEAH, THAT WAS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM.
IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN, WHAT YOU. YEAH.
I LISTENED TO THE COUNCIL MEETING YESTERDAY. IT STILL HASN'T WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH TO OUR LIAISON.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO AGENDIZE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WE CAN DO THAT. JUST AN FYI THAT I WANTED TO JUST.
OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO AGENDIZE THE DISCUSSION? WELL, HERE'S THE THING IS WHAT I WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT IT WILL BE AGENDIZED.
THE IT'S THIS PRESENTATION THAT I MADE TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL YESTERDAY IS BEING REFERRED TO US. IT IS BEING REFERRED, BUT THAT DOESN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, UNFORTUNATELY, OR AT LEAST IT DOESN'T DO THE TIMING ON THAT.
IT WILL BE AGENDA AN ITEM, AN AGENDA ITEM. OKAY.
AT WHICH TIME WE CAN THEN CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR IT.
OKAY. OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN YOUR CONCEPT? SURE. CAN I DO THAT? EVEN THOUGH WE CLOSE? WELL, IT'S SUBCOMMITTEE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. DO YOU HAVE A.
IF YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE ITEMS JUST FOR OUR NEW FOLKS HERE.
SO I MADE A SMALL PRESENTATION AS A AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN YESTERDAY AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT IT REALLY COULD USE SOME AMENITIES THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE THERE FROM OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD BENEFIT, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE BOCCE COURTS OR DOING A MEDITATION LABYRINTH. AND WHAT I SAW DOWN IN SOLANA BEACH A FEW YEARS BACK IS A PET MEMORIAL PATHWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I PRESENTED THIS TO THE COUNCIL IN HOPES THAT PERHAPS WE COULD DO SOME NEW AMENITIES TO THIS PARK THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF PUTTING IT TOGETHER COLLABORATIONS ALSO WITH CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION
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AND YEAH, SO THEY REFERRED IT TO US TO, TO WORK ON IT.SO TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY, SO. THEN I GUESS THERE'S NOTHING YOU WANT TO ADD AT THIS POINT.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT TO OUR LIAISON TO FIGURE OUT WHEN IT'S RIGHT.
ANYONE. RUN. IT'S THE BEST SURFACE FOR RUNNING IN THE CITY.
IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OVAL PACKED DIRT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN ON THE STREETS.
AND IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. SO I'M HOPING THAT IT GETS USED AS WELL FOR THAT.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, ITEMS FROM STAFF. NO ITEMS FROM STAFF.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? NOT AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. JACK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES? OKAY. THAT'S A NO FOR THOSE WANTING TO SEE IT ON THE TRANSCRIPT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A RARE INSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE ACTUALLY THE THREE DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY AT ONE MEETING FOR US, WHICH I THINK IS FABULOUS. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET MORE OF THAT.
I'M CURIOUS, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS MEETING, JACK? YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE VERY PATIENTLY, SO I JUST.
I LARGELY CAME TO SAY HELLO TO THE NEW MEMBERS.
WELCOME YOU ABOARD. AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN BE OF SERVICE OVER COMMUNITY SERVICES OR THE CULTURAL ARTS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT US. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE ADJOURNMENT.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROTOCOLS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN OPTION.
AND I'M NOT WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION NOW OF AT LEAST A QUORUM OF IT.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OR NOT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT. OKAY, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF US CONTINUING ON.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE LOST FIVE OF OUR MEMBERS BECAUSE OF ATTENDANCE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO COUNT AGAINST YOU FOR ATTENDANCE, BUT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING BECAUSE I REALLY I THINK YOU'RE A ONE ABSENCE NOW OR TWO, I HAVE ONE. I HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK.
WE'LL VERIFY THAT. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MORE COMMISSIONERS SO.
AND I DON'T WANT TO. IT'S A ROLLING 12 MONTHS, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT'S AN OPTION.
I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. SO LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE DATE.
SO YOU HAVE THEM. OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 9TH.
THEN WE HAVE A MEETING ON OCTOBER 14TH AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON NOVEMBER 11TH.
BUT THAT'S VETERAN'S DAY. SO CITY HALL IS CLOSED, WHICH MEANS WE WON'T HAVE THE STAFF.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EITHER AN ALTERNATIVE DATE.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING ALONG OR CANCEL THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT'S ON A HOLIDAY.
AND THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO LOOK AT UNTIL OCTOBER.
AND THEN OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR WILL BE DECEMBER 9TH.
AND OCTOBER I ASSUME THAT WE WILL GET A NEW CALENDAR FOR THE FULL YEAR AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS IF I'M NOT HEARING A MOTION TO.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WE CAN HAVE THAT MEETING BECAUSE THEY ARE EAGERLY, EAGERLY WAITING TO, TO TAKE THEIR ITEM BEFORE YOU. AND THAT ACTUALLY MAKES WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
BECAUSE IF IT'S A MILLS ACT THING, NO, IT'S NOT A MILLS ACT THING.
IT'S A, IT'S A IT'S A YEAH. OKAY. IT'S A CEQA THING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TIMETABLE ON IT.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE AT SOME POINT WITH THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHAT THAT ENTAILS, BUT I ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR PRESENTATION SINCE YOU DO SUCH WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
SO THANK YOU. YES. IT WILL BE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE ITEM.
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I DON'T THINK WE CAN DISCUSS IT THIS EVENING SINCE IT'S NOT AGENDIZED, BUT IT THERE IS A PROJECT THAT'S COMING FORWARD TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER.AND JUST KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T GET THE STUFF UNTIL LIKE 72 HOURS BEFORE WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICES, IF YOU'RE SHARP, YOU CAN GO AROUND THE CITY AND YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT SIGNS GO UP, IT GETS IN THE NEWSPAPER.
RIGHT? I BELIEVE THINGS ARE POSTED ABOUT A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
SO THERE'S THERE'S ADVANCE NOTIFICATION AS WELL AS STAFF IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF A HEARING IF YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS QUESTIONS AS, AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING MATERIALS.
SO THEN WE ARE HAVING A SEPTEMBER MEETING. I'M RECOMMENDING WE HAVE THE SEPTEMBER MEETING AND.
SO WHAT I AM NOW LOOKING FOR IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. ANYBODY? SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY. BEFORE I GO HAVE A VOTE ON IT, I NEED TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD.
THE CITY WILL ATTEMPT TO ACCOMMODATE YOU IN EVERY REASONABLE MANNER.
PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT (310) 318-0656.
AN AGENDA PACKET WILL BE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY AT CAN I GET A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE? ABSOLUTELY.
COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROY. AYE.
COMMISSIONER GALASSI. AYE. CHAIR MAROKO. AYE.
SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND I GOT THIS LOVELY GAVEL THAT'S SITTING HERE.
NICE. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.