[A. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] COMMISSIONER GOLD. HERE. COMMISSIONER PITZELE. HERE. COMMISSIONER TANER. HERE. VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY. HERE. AND CHAIR O'BRIEN-HERRERA. HERE. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. DID YOU NOT CALL ME. INVITE US TO SALUTE THE FLAG? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. AND NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVED ORDER OF AGENDA. YEAH. [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] SO THANK YOU CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION SINCE THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA, WE DID FIND OUT THAT THERE MAY POTENTIALLY BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERN RELATED TO ITEM J.1 ON THE AGENDA. SO WE ARE ASKING THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, PER THE GUIDANCE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE, THAT WE PUSH THAT ITEM FORWARD TO ANOTHER AGENDA AS SOON AS WE GET THE ISSUE RECTIFIED AND GET A FORMAL OPINION FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM, WE WILL AGENDIZE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO PULL THAT ITEM AND CONTINUE IT TO FUTURE MEETING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXCLUDE J.1 FOR NOW. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PITZELE, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO IS THAT OUR MOTION TO APPROVE OR IS THAT A MOTION JUST TO. SORRY I TURNED MY MIC OFF. IF THERE'S NO OTHER CHANGES THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING? THERE ARE. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS? BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. TONIGHT WE HAVE SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM COMMISSIONER TANER. TWO SEPARATE PIECES AND ALSO A RESPONSE FROM ME TO ADD INFORMATION TO IT. THERE IS ALSO A THE ORIGINAL J.1. SO THAT REMAINS AND IT IS VIEWABLE AND THERE WAS THE OTHER ONE FROM COMMISSIONER TANER WAS REVOLVING AROUND THE HISTORIC LIBRARY AND A POSSIBLE USE OF IT. SO THERE'S SOME INFORMATION IN THERE FOR YOU. AND THEN THERE IS A PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM A REDONDO RESIDENT, ROB WRYCHESTER, REGARDING ART ON ARTESIA. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PITZELE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLD, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE NOW MOVE ON [F. CONSENT CALENDAR] TO CONSENT FOLDER. I'M SORRY. CONSENT CALENDAR. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS BUSINESS ITEMS EXCEPT THOSE FORMERLY NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW. THOSE REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER PUBLIC THAT WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE WILL APPROVE ALL CONSENT ITEMS IN ONE MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS IS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PITZELE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THOUGHTS? RIGHT THERE. OKAY. AND NOW WE MOVE INTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. [H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] SO THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONCE. [00:05:03] IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? COME ON UP. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CHARLES BRAGG. IT MIGHT BE AN AGENDA ITEM. EXCUSE ME. CAN WE GET THAT MICROPHONE TURNED? THERE IT IS. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU ON THE MICROPHONE. YOU CAN. WE CAN NOW. OKAY. THAT'S CHARLES BRAGG, BRAGG. IT MIGHT BE AN AGENDA ITEM. I'M NOT SURE. I JUST WANT TO LOG IN ON BEING AN ARTIST THAT CAN PRESENT PROPOSALS. MY QUALIFICATIONS FOR SOME OF THE ART PROJECTS YOU'VE GOT GOING. DO I CONTINUE NOW OR NOT? OKAY. SO I HAVE SPENT 30 YEARS IN SOUTH BAY, MOSTLY IN MANHATTAN BEACH, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT IN EL SEGUNDO. IN 2024 I DID TWO MURALS FOR MANHATTAN BEACH, ONE RIGHT AT THE MANHATTAN BEACH PIER AND ALONG THE BIKE PATH, AND THEN ON 34TH STREET STAIRS FROM THE STRAND DOWN TO THE BIKE PATH. AND IN 2022, I DID ANOTHER MURAL ON THE HERONDO STREET WITH ALL THOSE MURALS ALONG THAT WALL. SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT MY HAT IN THE RING FOR BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS OR ANYONE ON ZOOM? ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM, NO COMMENT AND NO ONLINE COMMENTS. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NICHOLE BLACKBURN AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN REDONDO BEACH, AND I'M ALSO A LOCAL ARTIST, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT MYSELF AND MY ART BACKGROUND FOR FUTURE PROJECTS, IF THAT'S OKAY. AS I MENTIONED, MY NAME IS NICHOLE BLACKBURN. I'M A PROFESSIONAL MURALIST, A FINE ARTIST, AND THE FOUNDER OF CELADON STUDIO AND FINE ART, A SOUTH BAY MURAL BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I'M ALSO A LIFELONG REDONDO RESIDENT, A REDONDO UNION GRADUATE, AND THE FOUNDER OF BIG SKY COUNTRIES, A SOUTH BAY NONPROFIT THAT DONATES MURALS TO CHILDREN'S FACILITIES AROUND THE WORLD. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC ART IN REDONDO BEACH. I THOUGHT THE BEST PLACE TO START WAS TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND. I GRADUATED FROM REDONDO UNION HIGH IN 1996. WHILE I WAS THERE, MY ART TEACHER, MR. COOPER, ENCOURAGED ME TO CREATE MY FIRST PORTFOLIO, WHICH EARNED ME A SCHOLARSHIP TO THE YOUNG ARTIST PROGRAM AT OTIS. FROM THERE, I EARNED MY BACHELOR IN FINE ARTS FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY, AND I CONTINUED MY EDUCATION STUDYING PAINTING WITH ARTISTS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND EUROPE. I EVENTUALLY SPENT A YEAR LIVING AND STUDYING IN VERSAILLES, FRANCE, TRAINING TRADITIONAL PAINTING AND LARGE SCALE MURAL WORK. BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH I TRAVELED, THE SOUTH BAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY HOME, AND I FOUNDED CELADON STUDIO 20 YEARS AGO. SINCE THEN, I'VE CREATED MORE THAN 75 MURALS FOR SOUTH BAY LA UNIFIED SCHOOLS, TRANSFORMING CAMPUSES THROUGH ART AND INVOLVING STUDENTS IN THE CREATIVE PROCESS. SCHOOLS INCLUDE TEN MURALS AT NARBONNE, 15 MURALS FOR DANA ESHELMAN, FLEMMING. THE LIST GOES ON. THROUGH MY NONPROFIT BIG SKY COUNTRIES, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DONATING MURALS TO CHILDREN'S FACILITIES AROUND THE WORLD FROM KENYA, COLOMBIA, SRI LANKA, BOLIVIA AND THE PHILIPPINES, AS WELL AS TITLE ONE SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS SERVING CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES IN THE SOUTH BAY. SO AT THIS POINT IN MY CAREER, I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE OF WHAT I'VE LEARNED BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT ENCOURAGED ME TO BECOME AN ARTIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I HAVE SOME BUSINESS CARDS ON MY WEBSITE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, SOME CHOCOLATE AND SEE'S CANDY LOLLIPOPS. AND JUST PLEASE KEEP ME IN MIND AS WELL AS THIS GENTLEMAN. I'VE SEEN YOUR WORK. HIS WORK IS PHENOMENAL. AND THANK YOU FOR HONORING US ARTISTS. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEAUTIFUL. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE OR ZOOM COMMENTS? WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH NOW. NO ONLINE COMMENTS. STILL ATTENDEE ON ZOOM. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. HI. I GOT HERE A LITTLE BIT LATE. MICKEY JOHNSON. [00:10:02] DID I HEAR THAT J.1 WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA? OKAY, THEN I'M GOING TO USE MY THREE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO DO IS A RECEIVE AND FILE. AND THIS IS PERSONAL. THIS IS MICKEY JOHNSON. RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE. AND THERE IS AN ELECTRICAL BOX ON THE CORNER OF VAIL AND MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD. AND ONE OF THE BOXES NO LONGER HAS ART ON IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. MAYBE IT WAS REPLACED, BUT I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO REPLACE THE ART ON IT. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. NOW I'M PUTTING MY NRBBA HAT ON. I SERVE AS THE VOLUNTEER PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, AND I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING THE PUBLIC ART PROJECT FORWARD TONIGHT. BUT IT'S BEEN STALLED AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY. LEBASSE PROJECTS, THE CONSULTANT LEADING COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT SURVEYED THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT PUBLIC ART THEY WANT TO SEE ALONG ARTESIA BOULEVARD. 171 STAKEHOLDERS RESPONDED, 68% WANTED FUNCTIONAL ART LIKE BENCHES AND SEATING THAT GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO GATHER. 44% WANTED ASPHALT ART LIKE PAINTED CROSSWALKS AND SCULPTURE, CAME IN LAST AT 40%. THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT I READ THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED TODAY, AND MAYBE IT'LL BE DIFFERENT WHEN IT'S PRESENTED NEXT TIME. IT TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. AND IT ALSO HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED FROM THE 360,000 PROPOSED IN DECEMBER TO 228,000 TODAY. OF WHAT REMAINS, 79% IS GOING TO SCULPTURE, ONLY 3% TO FUNCTIONAL ART AND 17% TO CROSSWALKS. SO WHERE IS THE 132,000 THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL IN DECEMBER? THE BENCH ART SCOPE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DECORATIVE TREATMENTS, LIKE MOSAICS ON THE EXISTING UNCOMFORTABLE BACKLESS CONCRETE BENCHES ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THAT SCOPE HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT THE BUDGET FOR THE SAME FIVE BENCHES DROPPED FROM $40,000 TO $8,000, WHICH, IF $8,000, DELIVERS THE SAME TREATMENT THAT IS GREAT NEWS BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE MORE BENCHES. WHY WAS THE CROSSWALK ART ALSO REDUCED FROM TWO INSTALLATIONS DOWN TO ONE? WE ASKED 171 COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHAT THEY WANTED. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAID, WHY DID WE ASK? NRBBA RESPECTFULLY ASKS THE COMMISSION TO REVISIT THIS ALLOCATION AND BRING IT BACK IN LINE WITH WHAT RESIDENTS SAID THEY WANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE STILL AN ATTENDEE ONLINE? NO COMMENTS I COULD SEE AND NO ECOMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? STEVE HAGUE, 35 YEAR NORTH REDONDO RESIDENTS. PREVIOUS TO THAT SOUTH REDONDO, I MOVED BACK EAST TO RUN A COMPANY AND THEN CAME BACK OUT HERE. WANTED A SHORTER COMMUTE TO LAX BECAUSE I HAVE A TRAVEL SCHEDULE IN EXCESS OF 50% OF MY TIME, WHICH I ENJOY, VERSUS SEEING SOMEBODY ON THE 405 FOR THE FIFTH TIME IN 20 MINUTES. TWO QUICK ITEMS. GOSH, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY GO ON HERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS ARE AT, WHETHER IT'S A GALLERIA, AES, THE PIER, THE LIST GOES ON. I LIVED IN SOUTH REDONDO WHEN THE PIER WAS ON FIRE, SO WE PERHAPS BEFORE SOME OF YOU WERE BORN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE'S CONCRETE AROUND THE HORSESHOE THAT WAS ALL BUSINESSES AND SO ON. AND WE ALL, UNFORTUNATELY WATCHED THEM BURN. THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT EFFORTS TO ENHANCE ALL THOSE THINGS. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE AT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUT SOME SORT OF MOVEMENT IS OCCURRING. I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON ARTESIA SPECIFICALLY AND TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, THINK, SAY, BELIEVE PLEASE PUT SAFETY AHEAD OF EVERYTHING, WHETHER THAT'S FOR CHILDREN, MOMS PUSHING THE CARRIAGES ET CETERA. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY, I, MY VERSIONS MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. [00:15:06] I LIVE ONE BLOCK OFF ARTESIA. I WALK DAILY, I WALK MY DOG. I BICYCLE TO SOUTH AND NORTH. I'M ON A TRIP ACTUALLY FROM CANADA TO MEXICO. BUT AND THEN I DRIVE. I'M AN ADVANCED DRIVER, SO I DO KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. TWO WEEKS AGO, AS I WAS CROSSING THE WALK WHERE THERE'S PARKING LANE ONE, THEN LANE TWO. I'LL JUST CALL IT LANE ONE. I THINK I'VE GOT IT REVERSED. I PUSHED THE BUTTON. BEFORE THAT I HAD IT SAY, PLEASE ENTER YOUR CODE. AND I'M LIKE, WHAT? I KNOW ALL THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON, BUT IT NEEDS SOME WORK STILL. ANYWAY, I WAS WITHIN TWO FEET OF CROSSING THOSE LANES AND ALMOST GETTING HIT BY A VEHICLE. NO STOPPING. DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE. SOME OF THAT MAY BE BECAUSE THOSE TWO LIGHTS ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE. I'LL SKIP FORWARD BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE YOU THE OTHER ISSUES, BUT THEY'RE LIFE THREATENING. PEOPLE ARE ON THEIR PHONES, DRIVING, ETC.. THE SECOND ITEM. IT'S BEEN HEATED. THE LGBTQ PLUS SCULPTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A BIBLE VERSE. I'M SORRY. AT THIS TIME. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SERIOUSLY THINKING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ONLINE COMMENTS? AT THIS TIME NO ONLINE COMMENTS. ONE ATTENDEE ON ZOOM. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM J.2. A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FORMATION OF A SEAWALL SUBCOMMITTEE AND A GATE WAVE PARKETTE SUBCOMMITTEE. JACK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT? YEAH. ON THE LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHANGE IN ONE PROJECT [I. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS] AND A NEW PROJECT. THE CHANGE IN PROJECT, OF COURSE, WAS THE DEMISE OF THE GATE WAVE SCULPTURE, BUT THEN THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO GET A NEW PROJECT AND GET IT IN AND HOPEFULLY TO BASICALLY THEY WERE LISTENING WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO FIND ARTISTS FASTER THAN THE RFQ PROCESS. AND SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. SO THEY DIRECTED THAT WE DO THIS WITHOUT THE RFQ PROCESS AND FIND THE ARTISTS AND MOVE TO THE RFP IMMEDIATELY GET PROPOSALS. THEN THE OTHER WAS THE $50,000 ALLOCATION OF ART TILE PIECES ON THE SEAWALL BETWEEN THE CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB AND THE RIVIERA MEXICAN CANTINA. I SENT YOU SOME INFORMATION SHOWING HOW MANY BLOCKS THAT IS, HOW MANY PIECES THAT, AND ALSO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF INTERPRETING WHERE IT BEGINS AND ENDS. YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNING OF THE CANTINA, THE END OF THE CANTINA. WE'LL HAVE TO GET A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, BUT THAT ONE WILL GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF RFQ AND THEN RFP, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE TRAINED IN NAUTICAL AREA TILE ART THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH INTO, ESPECIALLY HOW IT'S BEST MADE FOR LONG LASTING AND YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE FREE AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. WHAT I AM ASKING AT THIS POINT IS SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THINGS IMMEDIATELY, IS LET'S GET A SUBCOMMITTEES TOGETHER FOR EACH OF THOSE TWO PIECES. LET'S GET SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO FIND US THE ART THE ARTISTS. AND LET'S GET THAT PROPOSED AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE IT'S NOW IN YOUR HANDS AS OPPOSED TO WAITING ON AN RFQ PROCESS SO. CAN I? UP TO YOU. A QUICK QUESTION. SO WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING SOME OF THE ARTISTS TODAY FOR THAT. SO FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I MEAN, AT LEAST I BROUGHT SOME OF ARTISTS THAT OF THAT I HAD OF INTEREST FOR IT. SO SHOULD WE PRESENT THAT THEN TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE WHEN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE GETS TOGETHER? BECAUSE IF WE ALL REMEMBER FROM THE MEETING WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT. WE WERE GOING TO BRING. IT WAS TALKED ABOUT. I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU WERE ALSO WRAPPED UP IN THE RFQ SELECTION PROCESS AT THE SAME TIME. [00:20:02] SO I THINK PEOPLE WILL FORGIVE A ONE MEETING DELAY. OKAY. BUT I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU GET THE GROUP TOGETHER FIRST. OKAY. AND BRING IT BACK IF YOU CAN TO THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. BUT THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION. IT'S NOT MY REQUIREMENT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IF THERE'S. BECAUSE THE SUBCOMMITTEE CAN BE THE MAX OF THREE PEOPLE. BUT YET, IF SOME PEOPLE. IF WE GET A SUBCOMMITTEE AND WE STILL HAVE COMMISSIONERS, CAN WE PLEASE GIVE SOME OF OUR IDEAS OF ARTISTS TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IF THEY'RE NOT ON IT? FOR ADDITIONAL ARTISTS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? NO. IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IF THE PERSON THAT'S NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE CAN STILL SUBMIT. IF SOMEBODY DID THEIR HOMEWORK. YEAH. RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO. YEAH. YOU CAN COMMUNICATE IN NUMBERS SMALLER THAN QUORUM LEVEL WITHOUT VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT. OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE. I JUST WANT TO. I'M JUST FOLLOWING. YEAH. OKAY. JUST. IF IT RISES TO TOO MANY PEOPLE, IT WILL DRAW ATTENTION. RIGHT. OF COURSE. SO LET'S LET'S BE CAREFUL TO HAND IT OFF. ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE CAREFUL OF THE RULES. MAKING SURE WITH THE RULES. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. I APPRECIATE THANKS, JACK SO MUCH. OKAY. SO THAT IS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, JACK. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SEAWALL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE? SHOULD WE START WITH THE GATE WAVE? WE CAN START WITH GATE WAVE. LET'S START WITH THE GATE WAVE. OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE GATE WAVE PARKETTE? I WANT TO BE ON THAT ONE AGAIN. THANK YOU JUAN. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PITZELE AND ANYONE ELSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ORHAN. COMMISSIONER TANER. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER TANER. COMMISSIONER PITZELE AND COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ THAT WOULD ALL LIKE TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE GATE WAVE PARKETTE. VERY GOOD. AND THEN. AND WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN IF ANYBODY HAD ANY IDEAS, THEN CAN WE JUST EMAIL YOU WITH THE ARTISTS THAT WE CAME UP WITH TONIGHT FOR THAT? YOU CAN ALWAYS COMMUNICATE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M JUST. YES. OKAY. OKAY. I'M NOT PART OF THE QUORUM. I'M NOT PART OF THE. WE'RE NOT WE DON'T DISCUSS PER SE. BUT I KNOW, BUT NOW THAT THIS IS NEW FOR ALL OF US, WITH THIS WHOLE RFQ AND THEN DOING THIS. WE ARE DOING IT DIFFERENTLY. SO WE MAY HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. YEAH. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SO THEY KNOW, BECAUSE IN CASE. IF I GET ANY LACK OF CLARITY ON CORRECT PROCEDURE, I WILL CHECK WITH THE CITY CLERK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THINGS WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO. RIGHT PERFECT. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO SLOW THIS DOWN. RIGHT. NO. ME NEITHER. VERY GOOD. CAN I ALSO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? YES. SINCE TIME IS AN ISSUE HERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GATE WAVE PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS FREE TO ALSO SEARCH FOR EXISTING WORKS OF EVEN MAYBE DECEASED ARTISTS, RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH A. DID YOU SAY DECEASED LIKE DEAD? RIGHT. JUST CHECKING. I DIDN'T HEAR THE. OKAY. YEAH. OR, YOU KNOW, SOME BASICALLY GOING AND DOING AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE OF AN ARTWORK EITHER THROUGH A GALLERY OR AN ART FAIR OR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A FOUNDATION OF A DECEASED ARTIST, RATHER THAN DIRECTLY IDENTIFYING ARTISTS AND ASKING THEM YOU KNOW FOR THEIR PROJECT. TO ME, GATE WAVE IS NOT A SITE SPECIFIC PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH THAT IT IS A SPECIFIC SITE. SO WE ARE BASICALLY LOOKING FOR ARTWORK WHICH WILL FIT INTO THAT SPACE, WHEREAS THE OTHER ONE IS MORE OF A, IT NEEDS TO BE A SITE SPECIFIC PROJECT DONE BY AN ARTIST. AFTER THEY SEE THE PARTICULAR SITE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. IS THERE A UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMISSION SHARES WITH ME, OR SHOULD WE? IT'S A. I THINK IT'S ANOTHER. YEAH, IT'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR SURE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING COOL OUT THERE THAT WE CAN JUST PURCHASE. WE JUST WANT TO. I JUST WANT TO. I'M NOT I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND. RESTRICTIONS. THIS DID NOT COME WITH ANY RESTRICTIONS THAT IT BE SPECIFICALLY TRANSIT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. IT WAS GIVEN FIND A NEW PROJECT THAT GOES IN THAT SPOT. OUR ONLY LIMIT IS THE MONEY? YEAH. CAN I ADD TO THAT WHICH MIGHT RELATE? BECAUSE THIS LITTLE KEYNOTE I WROTE HERE, A MATERIALS MATTER THE OCEAN CHALLENGE ANY REPLACEMENT FOR THE GATE WAVE PARKETTE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SURVIVES, OF COURSE, THE HARSH MARINE ENVIRONMENT. SO THE CHOSEN REPLACEMENTS SHOULD SPECIALIZE IN MARINE GRADE ALUMINUM TO PREVENT SALTWATER OXIDATION. HIGH GRADE STAINLESS STEEL TO AVOID STAINING FROM, YOU KNOW, SEA SPRAY. AND OPEN AIR, HYPER PERMEABILITY GEOMETRY TO LET HEAVY COASTAL WINDS BLOW SAFELY THROUGH WHATEVER STRUCTURE THERE IS. SO THAT'S A KEY POINT WHEN YOU ALL ARE DOING IT. AND EVEN IF IT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS, EVEN IF IT'S ONE, AN ARTIST THAT HAS BEEN DECEASED, THAT APPLIES TO IT, [00:25:04] THESE ALL APPLY, OF COURSE, WITH IT TOO. I THINK. WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT WAYS OF MAKING ART THAT WILL STAND UP IN A NAUTICAL ENVIRONMENT, IN A MARINE ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO SPECIFY THE EXACT MATERIAL, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE THAT CAN DO THIS, BUT MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MUST HAVE SOME HISTORY OR ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT CAN GUIDE YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS THING IS GOING TO SURVIVE, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER KINETIC SCULPTURE BICYCLE FROZEN, NOT SPINNING ANYMORE AGAIN. SO ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS A WIDE SCOPE OF BOTH LOOKING FOR ARTISTS WHO WOULD BASICALLY CREATE A PROJECT AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR READILY AVAILABLE ART, WHICH WILL FIT THOSE SPECIFICATIONS. AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IS NOT A SMALL ONE. WE ARE TALKING $275,000, WHICH CAN ATTRACT A WORLD RENOWNED ARTIST'S WORK INTO OUR CITY, AND SOME OF THEM ARE ALIVE. SOME OF THEM ARE NOT HERE. BUT THERE ARE WAYS OF SEARCHING FOR THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN OPTION WHICH THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS. WE WILL NEED TO VERIFY ON THE PURCHASING OF ART ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ART ORDINANCE AND COMMISSION BYLAWS ALLOWED THAT. AND THE SECOND TIME AROUND, THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION WERE REMOVED, BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BANNED PER SE. I NEED CLARITY, I DON'T WANT YOU WORKING ON A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF THAT THEY SUDDENLY SAY NO TO. LET'S GET AN ANSWER TO THAT BEFORE YOU. LET'S LOOK FOR NEW ART FIRST. WHILE I'M GETTING THAT ANSWER FOR YOU, AND I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS I GET IT. OKAY? WE SHOULD PROBABLY START WORKING AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. SO IF WE CAN GET BACK TO US WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'LL DO MY BEST. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FORM IS FOR THE SEAWALL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SEAWALL? I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE SEAWALL. I'LL DO THE SEAWALL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY. AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE ON THE SEAWALL SUBCOMMITTEE? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PITZELE. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE THREE FOR THAT ONE. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THE SEAWALL EVEN IF I'M NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE? I WAS JUST THERE TODAY. I JUST WENT AND I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE SITE RIGHT BEFORE THIS THIS MEETING. I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT A NEW VISION FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON BY THE CITY. THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL BE VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY IT BECAUSE IT'S THE PROXIMITY IS VERY, VERY CLOSE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST HUMBLY TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO ALSO RESEARCH INTO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A SITE SPECIFIC PROJECT. WE WILL FIND AN ARTIST, WE WILL COMMISSION IT. AND THEN AS A SUDDEN THEY SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE LANDSCAPE IN FRONT OF THE CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT SUCH AND SUCH, AND THEN THE PROJECT COULD BE AFFECTED. JUST A SMALL WARNING BECAUSE I JUST SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES. IT'S VERY CLOSE. THE PLANS ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WILL ALL BE WITHIN THE SAME BOUNDARIES IT CURRENTLY IS, BUT I WILL GET CONFIRMATION OF THAT AS WELL IF I CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. BEFORE WE RECEIVE AND FILE, IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE NEWLY FORMED SUBCOMMITTEES. I MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PITZELE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. I'M SORRY. I BLINKED FOR A MOMENT. WHO MADE THE MOTION? I. GOT IT, THANK YOU. NO BLINKING ALLOWED, JACK. OBVIOUSLY. WE NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM J.3. RECEIVE AND FILE ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. [J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] DO WE HAVE ANY ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS FOR TODAY? IS THERE ANY MORE NEWS FOR JACK? CAN I ASK FOR THE INSURANCE GOING ON FOR DEBBIE AND PATTY? I'M SORRY FOR THE ESPLANADE. IS THERE ANY NEWS ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD? WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 1ST. OKAY. [00:30:05] OKAY. SPEAKING TODAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST COUNCIL MEETING THE CONTRACTS WILL BE ON THAT AGENDA AS PART OF THEIR CONSENT CALENDAR. AND SO UNLESS SOMEBODY PULLS IT FOR DISCUSSION, IT WILL JUST GO IN WITH THE REST OF THEM. NOBODY EXPECTS ANY KIND OF PROBLEM WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. OKAY. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IF ALL GOES WELL BY OUR NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER OR THEY'RE ALREADY SET. SO ONCE THIS CONTRACT GOES THROUGH. READY TO ROCK, THEY SAID THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE GO. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEY WILL THEY WILL START ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THEIR STUDIO TO CREATE THE PANELS BEFORE THEY DO THE INSTALLATION, SO THEY CAN BE WORKING ON THAT ALMOST INSTANTLY. DID I READ THAT IT WAS AN INSURANCE ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED? VERY. IT WAS RESOLVED. THEY TOOK CARE OF THEIR INSURANCE. EVERYTHING IS UP TO DATE. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO COUNCIL WITHOUT THE INSURANCE. THAT WAS THE SLOWDOWN, BUT THEY GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF AND WE ARE GOING TO COUNCIL NOW. THERE ARE NO SLOWDOWNS. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS ME, CHRISTIAN-KELLY, AND JACK MET WITH THE LEBASSE PEOPLE LAST WEEK. I DON'T. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THAT J.1. BUT JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE STUFF AND THE PHASES AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND I GUESS THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT ON THIS. BUT JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WE MET WITH THEM AND WE SAT THROUGH A BUNCH OF OUR STUFF THAT'LL COME UP EVENTUALLY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM ANY ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES TONIGHT? OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE DIDN'T SCHEDULE TOO MUCH WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF THAT PARTICULAR ITEM BEING THE PRIMARY. WE HOPE TO GET THIS RIGHT BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA. OF COURSE. VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO PUT ANY ITEMS ON FUTURE AGENDAS? [K. COMMISSION REFERRALS TO STAFF] YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER TANER. I'D LIKE TO PUT THE ENTIRE SUBJECT OF THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY ONTO OUR AGENDA ITEM. I WAS DRAWN TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN OPENING LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO AFTER FOUR YEARS OF RENOVATIONS, AND I REMEMBER COMING IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION FOUR YEARS AGO ON JUNE 1, 2022, TO BE EXACT. AND COMMISSIONERS OR VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY AND COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ WERE HERE. THEY LISTENED TO ME AND THEY LISTENED TO A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THERE SHOULD BE AN ART ASPECT IN THAT HISTORIC LIBRARY RENOVATION. AND THE COMMISSION LISTENED TO US. THEY AGREED. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF ACTUALLY TURNING IT INTO A REDONDO BEACH ART MUSEUM. THESE ARE ALL ON THE RECORDS. I HAVE IT HERE. AND WITHOUT REALLY TAKING TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE THIS AN AGENDA ITEM. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE BASIC IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. AND JUST WITH SOME FEW BULLET POINTS, THE ART COMMISSION'S INPUT WAS THERE SHOULD BE A CREATIVE ART SPACE AND ART EXHIBITION CENTER. THERE SHOULD BE NON RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT ART SPACES. AND FINALLY, THE MINUTES SAYS THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSIONERS CONSENSUS WAS TO HAVE AN ART FOCUSED SHARED USE FACILITY WITH REVENUE MAKING OPTIONS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. OR MAYBE IT HAS HAPPENED, BUT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF IT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THAT I BROUGHT IT UP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AS SOME OF YOU WILL RECALL, I CONTINUOUSLY ASKED ABOUT THE PROGRESS AND PROCESS OVER THERE. AND FINALLY, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR STAFF AND THE CITY STAFF THAT A CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY I SUBMITTED AS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. IT DOES NOT REALLY TALK ABOUT ABOUT ART AT ALL. THERE ARE CERTAIN PARAGRAPHS, JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR INTRODUCTORY MEMO, THAT WHICH HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE USAGE OF THE HISTORIC LIBRARY. SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS TO HAVE AN IN LENGTH DISCUSSION AND IF POSSIBLE, HAVE A KELLY OR SOMEBODY ELSE BACK HERE AT OUR COMMISSION MEETING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE US THROUGH THE PROCESS ABOUT AND TELL US WHAT THE CITY THINKS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED TO THEM FOUR YEARS AGO. [00:35:11] LASTLY MY GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THIS COMMISSION, THE PRIMARY CONTACT POINT OR THE OWNERSHIP IN TERMS OF OWNERSHIP OF THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY WHEN IT COMES TO ALL SORTS OF ACTIVITIES BESIDES THE, BEYOND THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES THAT THE OBVIOUSLY THE CONTRACTOR NEEDS TO DO, SUCH AS WEDDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, PARTIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. BY THE WAY, THE CONTRACTOR, AS YOU WILL ALSO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK IS A VERY, VERY BIG CORPORATION. THEY MANAGE TENS OF OTHER SPACES ALL AROUND THE SOUTH BAY AND ELSEWHERE. AND THEY ARE STRICTLY AN EVENT COMPANY. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CLUE THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN ART OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO I KNOW IT WAS A LENGTHY INTRODUCTION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THIS AN AGENDA ITEM AND BASICALLY GET YOUR IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE ALL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND ITS RESIDENTS. AND I WILL TELL YOU NOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED. IT'S A CONCESSIONAIRE AGREEMENT. WE HAVE HANDED OVER THE CONTROL OF THE VENUE TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SPACES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, 45 DAYS A YEAR WHERE WE CAN GET CONTROL AND DO THINGS OF OUR OWN, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL SECTION THAT REQUIRES THEM TO DO A FEW CULTURAL EVENTS WITH VERY LITTLE SPECIFICATION THAT'S STILL BEING NEGOTIATED. THE SECTIONS IN THERE THAT ARE PERTINENT TO YOU GUYS ARE 3.5 AND 3.6. 3.5 DESCRIBES THE CITY USE OF THE FACILITY, AND 3.6 DESCRIBES WHAT CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARTNERSHIPS WILL LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, THAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED. THE CONTRACT WAS IN NEGOTIATION FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS, AND THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT IT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD PRIOR WITH SPECTRUM CATERING, OPERATING IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS UNTIL THEY SHUT DOWN DURING COVID, AND THEY WENT LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CATERER TO OPERATE THE FACILITY AGAIN. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY FOUND. BUT THIS TIME THEY LEFT SOME CITY USAGE IN THE CONTRACT SO THAT IT WASN'T EXCLUSIVE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME ACTIVITY CAPABLE, BUT THE PROCESS FOR ACTUALLY BOOKING IT OR MAKING RESERVATIONS HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED. IF I MAY JUST FINISH. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THAT. ALL I'M SAYING IS WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY IN TERMS OF CULTURAL ARTS OR ANY KIND OF CULTURE OR ARTS RELATED ACTIVITIES, THAT INCLUDES YOU KNOW, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, PUBLIC CONCERTS, PUBLIC ART ACTIVITIES, PUBLIC MUSEUMS, PUBLIC. I'M SORRY. EXHIBITIONS OR EVEN AN ANNUAL EVENT OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY NEED TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION FIRST. UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S MY GOAL. SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO. NO, I JUST SO, YOU KNOW NOW THAT WE KNOW, WE GET 45 DAYS, WHATEVER THAT IS, HOWEVER, THAT I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BLOCK OR IT'S DIVIDED UP. IT'S NOT A BLOCK. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE GET A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS IN A ROW. YOU CAN DO. RIGHT. PRIOR TO THE LIBRARY CLOSING THE ORIGINAL CHAIRPERSON HERE, SHE HAD THROWN AN ART EXHIBIT IN THERE WHERE SHE USED THE WHOLE LIBRARY. IT WAS AMAZING. IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN. ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA 101 EXHIBIT. YEAH. AND IT WAS NUTS. I DIDN'T I FORGOT HER NAME, BUT I WORKED WITH HER AND I WENT AND SAW THE SHOW AND IT WAS SOME OF THE. LEPEN. YEAH. YES. SHE, PUT ON AN EXHIBIT THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DID IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE CALLED, BUT SOME OF THE ARTWORK THAT CAME INTO THAT PLACE WAS AMAZING. AND I MEAN, IT'S STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WANT. WE JUST GOT TO FIT IT IN 45 DAYS. YOU KNOW, WE GET TO USE IT FOR 45 DAYS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. THAT WAS WITH FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, RIGHT? WITH SO, SO THERE'S ALL LIKE PART OF LIKE AN ART GROUP THAT. YEAH. HOWEVER SHE DID IT. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY ON RECORD. WE COULD GO LOOK IT UP AND FIND OUT. THERE'S ALSO REDONDO BEACH ART GROUP USED TO HOLD THEIR MEETINGS. SO SPECTRUM DID HAVE A RAPPORT WITH SOME OF THE ART GROUPS. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY WITH IT BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN DONE WITH THE OLD ONE. [00:40:04] SO WHY NOT MAYBE A GOOD SOME SORT OF IT WAS A NICE. YEAH. TO DO THAT AGAIN. IT WAS A NICE WAY TO SPEND THE SATURDAY. I'M GOING TO STOP US HERE. YEAH. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET PUT ON THE AGENDA MAYBE LATER SINCE THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT PARTS OF THE CONTRACT SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT COULD WE MAYBE PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER? WELL, I IF I MAY SAY, I THINK THE WHOLE POINT IS ACTUALLY TO GET INVOLVED AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE NEGOTIATING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE. ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. I THINK WE SHOULD GET TO. WHAT'S POSSIBLE I GET THIS PUT ON OUR SEPTEMBER AGENDA SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. THAT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE ITEM WE JUST KICKED OFF OF TONIGHT IS GOING TO TAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE. I WILL TRY AS THE ANSWER. WE'LL SEE. THE CORRECT ANSWER IS I WILL TRY. YES. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA? I JUST WANTED TO ASK, ARE THEY I'M A MEMBER OF RBAG AND WE WENT TO THE LIBRARY FOR ALL OF OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THEIR CONTRACT THAT THEY HAD TO OFFER UP NON PROFITS. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, GUIDES THEM TO ALLOW NON PROFITS AND THEN MAYBE RBAG CAN GET BACK IN. ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, THERE IS COST FOR USE WHERE WE MAY GET IN. BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FREE. THERE'S BASICALLY WE'RE OFFSETTING THE LOSSES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AS A BUSINESS IN ORDER TO TAKE OVER 45 DAYS A YEAR. SO THEY'VE SET A FEE FOR USAGE. WELL, I WAS JUST MENTIONING ABOUT A MEETING ON THE RBAG REDONDO BEACH ART GROUPS MEETING WAS ONLY HELD ONCE A MONTH. DID WE GO MONTHLY? IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE WE ACTUALLY HAD A PERMANENT SPOT FOR THE MEETINGS THAT I WAS KIND OF HOPING THAT WE COULD GET BACK INTO THE LIBRARY. SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASK. SO YOU WANT 12 DAYS OF THE 45? YEAH. IT WAS LIKE A NONPROFIT. VERY GOOD. I'M GOING TO REEL US BACK IN HERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA? YEAH. WE GOT TO START FIGURING OUT THE ONE COMPONENT OF THIS CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION THAT WE DON'T ADDRESS IS MUSIC. AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND GROUPS COME THROUGH AND WE NEED TO KIND OF IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN PUT MUSIC, WHERE WE SHOULD PUT MUSIC, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THAT'S LIKE PEEKING OVER JACK. HE I'M SURE HE'S GOT ENOUGH WITH THE CENTER ALL BY ITSELF, BUT. I HONESTLY THINK THAT IS A VALID POINT. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE. EXCUSE ME. WE DON'T YOU HAVE SO MUCH ON YOUR PLATE. THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE ABSORB ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE AT THIS POINT, OR DO YOU WANT TO FORM ONE AND DIP INTO IT WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME? I THINK WE JUST HAVE CONVERSATION FIRST BEFORE WE START. WE NEED TO KIND OF LIKE AS A GROUP, JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT FIRST AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO FROM THERE. LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, WE ONLY GET TO SEE EACH OTHER ONCE A MONTH. WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME. SO WE ACTUALLY DID GO OVER THIS AT GREAT LENGTH LIKE THREE MONTHS BACK. SO IT'S IN THE MINUTES ABOUT HOW MUCH HOW MANY IDEAS WERE OFFERED UP AT THAT MEETING. SO I MEAN, WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND THEN EXPAND ON THAT. I THINK I'LL FIND THAT I'LL DIG THAT UP AND FIND IT AND FORWARD IT TO YOU. WHERE IS THE VENUES OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO DO THAT. RIGHT. LIKE, YEAH, I MEAN I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT HARD THAT WE NEEDED TO DO A SURVEY OF PLACES WE CAN DO THE MUSIC. YEAH. I THINK WE COULD SPEND ANOTHER PLATE FOR MUSIC. THAT'S PART OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE SEAWALL. YEAH. WELL THERE'S THE VETERANS PARK. YEAH. THERE'S THE PIER. BUT THE AMPHITHEATER IS GONE NOW AT VETERANS, ISN'T IT? YEAH. THE PIER IS OPERATED BY THE PIER ASSOCIATION AND THEY DO THEIR OWN EVENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE FOR US TO GET IN ON THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. HOWEVER, MY BOSS IS NOW THE BY COMBINING DEPARTMENTS, ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE HARBOR AND WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE PROXIMITY TO POWER TO ASK. [00:45:05] NICE. GOOD. IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FOR THE UPCOMING AGENDAS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I ADJOURN? YES. WHEN COMMISSIONER LAWRENCE WAS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, SIDEWALK, CHALK LIKE FESTIVAL OR EVENTS. I'M NOT READY TO GO FORWARD NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A FUTURE ITEM MAYBE AFTER WHATEVER J.1 WAS AND THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT. VERY GOOD. OUR PLATE SEEMS QUITE FULL. WE DID SEE THAT THE KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION WAS DOING A CHALK ART COMPETITIONS WITH CHILDREN ON THE SAME SET OF SEAWALL THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE OVER. SO IT MAY BE A RIPE OPPORTUNITY FOR TAKING OVER A PROJECT AND MOVING IT ELSEWHERE, SUCH AS THE PIER. WHO WAS IT THAT YOU SAID? WHICH ORGANIZATION WAS DOING IT? KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION. KING HARBOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. AND THEY WERE DOING IT IN PRECISELY THE SAME PIECE OF THE SEAWALL THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO PUT THE HARD TILE ON. SO THAT WON'T BE AN AVAILABLE SPACE. SORRY JUST ADD ON THE HISTORIC LIBRARY. I ALSO ASKED JACK TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF US TO TOUR THE HISTORIC LIBRARY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING IN SMALL GROUPS. I THINK IT WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE WE WILL SEE WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE. I MEAN, THE LAST TIME I TOURED IT WAS WHEN THEY WERE SEARCHING FOR IDEAS BACK IN FOUR YEARS AGO. IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT'S PERFECT. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID TO DO. THE TOURING OF THE HISTORIC LIBRARY FOR THE COMMISSION MEMBERS. I'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET PERMISSION. OKAY. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. OKAY, THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FOR ADJOURNMENT. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD AT 7 P.M. ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2026 IN THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:48. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID WE VOTE TO ADJOURN? NO, WE DID NOT. IS THERE. IS THERE SORRY? IS THERE A MOTION? A MOTION? THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.