Sep 08, 2026 City Council

OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE CLOSED SESSION.

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT.

HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THE CLOSED SESSION? THERE ARE NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY. COULD YOU READ? OH. I'M SORRY. THERE'S NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

IS ANYONE ONLINE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. OKAY. COULD YOU READ THROUGH E.1 THROUGH E.6?

[E. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION]

AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLISHED CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.

COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. E.1 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL. EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE OF CARDINOL TRANSPORTATION, INC. VERSUS THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. REDONDO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FRANK SCOTTO, DBA VAN LINGEN, TOWING INC. AND DOES 1 THROUGH 50.

CASE NUMBER 25TRCV04341. ITEM E.2 CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING THE PROPERTY OF PORTIONS AT APN# 7503-33-903, 7503-33-905, AND ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, ITEM E.3 CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING THE PROPERTY OF 400 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA 90277 A PORTION OF A APN/AIN: 7503-013-901.

ITEM E.4. AGAIN CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING PROPERTY AT 121 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD, SUITE 203, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA 90277. A PORTION OF APN 7505-002-908 AND THEN E.5 CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT 107 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD, SUITE 202, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA 90277. A PORTION OF APN 7505-002-908.

AND FINALLY, ITEM E.6 CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING THE PROPERTY OF PORTIONS OF REDONDO BEACH MARINA PARKING LOT SEASIDE LAGOON PORTIONS OF APN NUMBER 7503-029-900 AND 7503-029-903, AND THAT IS ALL MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO ITEM E.1 THROUGH E.6.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. FOR ALL ITEMS MYSELF, CITY ATTORNEY JOY FORD, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK FOR ITEM E.1.

WE WILL HAVE ALEENA HASHMI, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

FOR ITEM E.2 WE WILL BE JOINED BY ELIZABETH HAUSE, OUR WATERFRONT COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS DAVID BIGGS, OUR PROJECT MANAGER. FOR ITEMS E.3 THROUGH E.5, WE WILL HAVE AGAIN ELIZABETH HAUSE, OUR WATERFRONT COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, ALONG WITH OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER KATHERINE BUCK.

FOR ITEM E.6, WE WILL BE JOINED BY ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, LUKE SMUDE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? MOVE TO CLOSE. MOVE TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR IT.

AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL BE BACK ON OR ABOUT 6 P.M.

TO REPORT OUT ON ANY REPORTABLE ACTIONS AND TO START THE OPEN SESSION CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU. CLOSED SESSION. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

[F. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT HERE AND MAYOR LIGHT.

HERE. LET'S SEE. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CLOSED SESSION?

[H. ANNOUNCEMENT OF CLOSED SESSION ACTIONS]

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THAT'S REPORTABLE.

THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE REGULAR OPEN SESSION MEETING? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL FOR.

AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. SO MOVED. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE OPEN SESSION REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY OR ANY VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY? IF YOU DO, PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE.

OKAY. WOULD YOU ALL RISE RIGHT NOW FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I'M GOING TO LEAD IT TONIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE A STUDENT. SO WITH ME HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

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AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. NEXT, WE'RE GOING DOWN TO ITEM D PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS,

[D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS]

NO PROCLAMATIONS, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS AND ACTIONS TONIGHT THAT WE'LL BE DOING.

WITH THAT, I'LL COME DOWN FORWARD. CAN YOU TURN ON THE MIC AT THIS TIME? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. COULD YOU JOIN ME DOWN HERE? SURE. AND DO YOU WANT TO COME UP NOW, MIKE OR? NO. OR YOU CAN COME UP LATER. OKAY. SO FIRST OFF, THIS EVENING, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING AN EXTRAORDINARY PUBLIC SERVANT AND TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK CHIEF BUTLER FOR HIS DEDICATED LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE TO THE CITY AND TO OUR PUBLIC.

SO CHIEF, COULD YOU COME DOWN? NOW, I WAS NOT IN THIS POSITION OR ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME THE CHIEF CAME TO WORK WITH US.

SO I'VE ASKED COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI TO GIVE YOU KNOW, A FEW WORDS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME.

IF YOU WERE UP AT THE PARTY BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF THE SAME THING.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T, I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING BECAUSE THE CHIEF HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB HERE.

SO WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING BECAUSE THIS ENTERS INTO THE CITY'S RECORD WHICH THIS VERY IMPORTANT IN REDONDO BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT HISTORY SHOULD BE.

IN 2022 OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS IN CRISIS, THE CITY WAS SHORT TEN FIREFIGHTERS AND COULD NOT FILL THE POSITIONS.

SO REDONDO BEACH COMMISSIONED ITS OWN STUDY, LED BY THEN INTERIM CHIEF FIRE CHIEF KEITH KAUFFMAN, WORKING ALONGSIDE RETIRED LAFD CHIEF DEPUTY JOE CASTRO, TO FIND OUT WHAT HAD GONE WRONG.

WHAT THEY HAD FOUND WAS HARD TO READ. IN A 93 PAGE ASSESSMENT.

RBFD LACKS STRONG LEADERSHIP. THE SITTING CHIEF HAD GONE MISSING IN ACTION.

FIREFIGHTERS TOLD US, IN THEIR OWN WORDS, THEY NEVER REALLY SAW THEIR CHIEF.

THEY BELIEVE THE CITY WAS MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO RATHER THAN PUSHING THEM FORWARD AS A DEPARTMENT.

THEY DESCRIBE DIFFERENT CULTURES ACROSS EACH PLATOON, NO UNIFORM TRAINING, TOO MUCH BUSYWORK, AND NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TIME SPENT TRAINING. THERE WAS A LACK OF DIVERSITY, AND THE DEPARTMENT'S INABILITY TO PRODUCE AND INABILITY TO RECRUIT HAD PRODUCED BURNOUT. IN THE REPORT'S OWN WORDS, THEY HAD AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF BURNOUT AND MORALE ISSUES BECAUSE PERSONNEL WERE ALMOST CONSTANTLY MANDATED TO WORK UNFILLED OVERTIME JUST TO MEET STAFFING MINIMUMS. THAT WAS THE DEPARTMENT PAT BUTLER CHOSE TO LEAD WHEN HE WAS SWORN IN AS INTERIM FIRE CHIEF ON AUGUST 29TH, 2022. BY THEN, CHIEF BUTLER HAD ALREADY SERVED 32 YEARS WITH THE LOS ANGELES FIRE DEPARTMENT, RETIRING AS AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AND 22 YEARS AS AN L.A.

COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RESERVE DETECTIVE. HE HAD OPTIONS.

CAL FIRE WANTED HIM AND UNDOUBTEDLY MANY OTHER LOCAL DEPARTMENTS.

INSTEAD, HE LOOKED AT OUR STRUGGLING FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HE CAME ANYWAYS.

PERHAPS HE KNEW THAT HE COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE HERE, GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT THE REPORT LAID BARE IT TOOK COURAGE FOR CHIEF BUTLER, AFTER A STORIED CAREER, TO TAKE CHARGE OF A DEPARTMENT THAT HAD BEEN SO NEGLECTED AND YET HAVE SO MUCH OPTIMISM ABOUT WHAT HE COULD ACHIEVE HERE.

IT ALSO TOOK INCREDIBLE HUMILITY ON CHIEF BUTLER'S PART, BECAUSE HE WAS OFFERED THE JOB AS AN INTERIM CHIEF, AND HE RECEIVED THAT TITLE BECAUSE AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A LIVE QUESTION HANGING OVER THE DEPARTMENT'S FUTURE.

THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER MAYOR BRAND WAS SERIOUSLY AND DILIGENTLY WEIGHING THE COST OF ACQUIRING FOLDING OUR SERVICES INTO THE L.A.

COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT. AND IN THE VERY TRUE TEST OF HIS FIDELITY AS A CIVIL SERVICE CHIEF BUTLER MADE CLEAR THAT HE WOULD HELP THE CITY GET THE COUNTY QUOTE, HONESTLY AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH, EVEN IF IT MEANT THAT HE WOULD LOSE HIS JOB.

IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. WITHIN MONTHS OF CHIEF BUTLER TAKING THE REINS, THE DEPARTMENT WAS TRENDING SHARPLY UPWARD. FOR THE FIRST TIME, A SINGLE TRAINING OFFICER WAS IN PLACE TO GET EVERY FIREFIGHTER ON THE SAME PAGE.

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A SEPARATE ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEF AND STAFF TOOK ON THE PAPERWORK THAT HAD BEEN SUFFOCATING DEPARTMENTS, FIREFIGHTERS. AND EXCELLENCE FOLLOWING THE BEST PRACTICES EVERY TIME, NO EXCEPTIONS BECAME THE STANDARD.

AS CAPTAIN CAMPOS PUT IT, CHIEF BUTLER BROUGHT ACCOUNTABILITY BACK TO THE CRAFT OF FIREFIGHTING AND REAL DEDICATION TO THE FIRE SERVICE.

THERE WAS NO MORE SATISFACTION WITH MEDIOCRITY.

DURING THE SAME STRETCH, RBFD EARNED A CLASS ONE RATING FROM THE INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE.

THE HIGHEST RATING A FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN ACHIEVE.

THE COUNCIL COULD SEE IT, TOO, IN MORALE AND IN PERFORMANCE.

SO WHEN THE TIME CAME, IT WAS AN EASY DECISION TO RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THE L.A.

COUNTY QUOTE AND PAT BUTLER BECAME OUR CHIEF, NO LONGER INTERIM CHIEF, BECAUSE AT HIS CORE, CHIEF BUTLER NEVER STOPPED BEING A FIREFIGHTER.

IN 2022 2024, HE HELPED GUIDE THE CITY AND THE FIREFIGHTERS TO A NEW FOUR YEAR LABOR AGREEMENT.

WHEN CITY LEADERSHIP, THE FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION AND THE PO CAME TOGETHER ON A CAMPAIGN TO REBUILD REDONDO BEACH'S PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE CHIEF BUTLER DIDN'T SIT ON THE SIDELINE AND SAY, I'M GOING TO STAY OUT OF POLITICS.

HE STEPPED UP AND USING HIS OWN LAFD CONNECTIONS, HE SECURED A VINTAGE FIRE RIG, WHICH HE PERSONALLY DROVE AROUND REDONDO BEACH WITH OFF DUTY FIREFIGHTERS TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR YES ON MEASURE FP.

NOTHING ABOUT CHIEF BUTLER'S DEDICATION TO THE CITY OR TO THE FIRE SERVICE EVER FELL SHORT OF EXCELLENCE.

WHEN A CITY GATE ANALYSIS FOUND THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS WERE ALREADY GETTING OUT THE DOOR AT A STRONG CLIP.

HIS RESPONSE WAS SIMPLE WE CAN DO BETTER. AND THEY DID, SHORTENING ALREADY STRONG RESPONSE TIMES EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE GOOD ENOUGH WAS NEVER GOOD ENOUGH FOR HIM. SINCE CHIEF BUTLER TOOK THE HELM, FIREFIGHTERS SAY EMS CALLS RUN MORE SMOOTHLY.

SMALL DETAILS ARE ATTENDED TO BY OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND RESIDENTS BOAST OF THE FIRST CLASS SERVICE THEY RECEIVE FROM RBFD.

THE PRIDE INSIDE THIS DEPARTMENT HAS SKYROCKETED, AS IT SHOULD, AND IT IS BECAUSE OF CHIEF BUTLER'S LEADERSHIP THAT RBFD WAS READY WHEN THE PALISADES FIRES IGNITED ON JANUARY 7, 2025. READY TO ANSWER THE CALL WITH PROMPT, HEROIC MUTUAL AID THAT HELPED SAVE HOMES. WITH EVERY DEPLOYED FIREFIGHTER RETURNING BACK TO REDONDO BEACH SAFELY, RBFD ISN'T JUST BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE CHIEF BUTLER ARRIVED.

MORALE, CONFIDENCE, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ARE, BY EVERY ACCOUNT AT OR NEAR ALL TIME HIGHS.

CHIEF, YOU DIDN'T COME TO REDONDO BEACH BECAUSE YOU HAD TO YOU CAME BECAUSE THIS CITY NEEDED SOMEONE WHO STILL BELIEVED IN WHAT THE BADGE MEANS.

AND FOR YEARS NOW, EVERY FIREFIGHTER IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND EVERY FAMILY IN THE CITY WHO SLEEPS A LITTLE EASIER AT NIGHT HAS BEEN THE BENEFICIARY OF YOUR BELIEF.

YOU FOUND A DEPARTMENT THAT HAD FORGOTTEN HOW GOOD IT COULD BE, AND YOU REMINDED IT.

YOU LEAVE BEHIND A SHORTER RESPONSE TIMES AND STRONG SUCCEEDING LEADERSHIP.

BUT MORE THAN THAT, YOU LEAVE BEHIND A CULTURE FIREFIGHTERS WHO TRAIN TOGETHER, WHO COVER FOR EACH OTHER, WHO WALK INTO THEIR STATIONS PROUD OF THE PATCH ON THEIR SHOULDER.

YOU LEAVE THIS DEPARTMENT PRIMED FOR A LEADER TO RISE UP FROM WITHIN ITS OWN RANKS AND CARRY IT FORWARD.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT IN A STAFF REPORT. THAT'S A LEGACY.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVERY RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH, THANK YOU CHIEF PAT BUTLER, FOR EVERY TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE THING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THE CITY.

CONGRATULATIONS ON A CAREER AND A SECOND CAREER EXTRAORDINARILY WELL EARNED.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE JOIN ME IN GIVING CHIEF BUTLER THE SEND OFF HE DESERVES.

WE'RE NOT DONE. SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

HE GAVE SOME INSIGHT THAT I CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE.

HAVING BEEN ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION AT THE TIME THAT CHIEF BUTLER CAME TO POWER.

AND WHEN HE DID IN 2022, HE CAME INTO A TOUGH SITUATION.

THE PUBLIC WAS SKEPTICAL. IF YOU FOLLOWED THE CENTERCAL DEBACLE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE PREVIOUS CHIEF AND WHETHER HE WAS REALLY LOOKING OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTERESTS OR HIS POLITICAL BEST INTERESTS.

SO YOU CAME IN AT A TOUGH TIME. AND I WILL GET TO MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH YOU ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION LATER.

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WE GOT SOMEONE WITH 32 YEARS WITH THE LA FIRE DEPARTMENT RETIRING AS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF.

HE HAD 22 YEARS AS A RESERVE DEPUTY OFFICER WITH LA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS A DETECTIVE.

HE HAS A PHD IN PUBLIC POLICY FROM USC. I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENTS ON THE SCHOOL ASIDE, THE PHD IS A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.

BUT HE ALSO GOT A MASTER'S DEGREE IN SECURITY SERVICES AND HOMELAND DEFENSE FROM THE NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL, WHICH I RESPECT IMMENSELY. HAVING BEEN IN THE MILITARY AND FINALLY HE PARTICIPATED IN EXECUTIVE PROGRAMS AT HARVARD AS A KENNEDY FELLOW AND AT WEST POINT, WHICH AREN'T EASY THINGS TO GET AS A CIVILIAN.

HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AT REDONDO ARE AMAZING GIVEN THE RELATIVELY SHORT TIME HE HAS SERVED HERE.

I WON'T GO OVER WHAT ZEIN JUST DID IN A MUCH BETTER FASHION.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M I'M PROUD OF IS THE, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE INTEGRATED TWO NEW FIRE ENGINES AND A NEW HARBOR PATROL BOAT.

SO WE GOT NEW EQUIPMENT. YOU REESTABLISHED AND REINVIGORATED THE ROLE OF HARBOR MASTER, WHICH HAD BEEN NOT REALLY STAFFED FOR DECADES.

SO YOU TOOK THAT, YOU DUSTED OFF EVERYTHING AND BROUGHT IT UP TO A NEW LEVEL.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SET UP THE DEPARTMENT FOR A SMOOTH TRANSITION TO NEW LEADERSHIP PROMOTED FROM WITHIN, WHICH IS A REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT.

NOW, MY FIRST MEETING WITH CHIEF BUTLER WAS AT A HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING, AND I WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME, AND WE HAD ASKED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND BRIEF ON A CERTAIN TOPIC, AND I DON'T EVEN QUITE REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

BUT RATHER THAN SEND ONE OF HIS PEOPLE TO THE, TO THE JAWS OF A PUBLIC THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY SATISFIED WITH THE WAY THINGS GO.

HE STOOD UP AS THE LEADERSHIP AND STOOD UP TO THAT.

AND IT WASN'T A PLEASANT EXCHANGE. AND I HAVE TO ADMIT I WAS PROBABLY A BIT TOO HARSH AND UNPROFESSIONAL, BUT THE CHIEF RESPONDED TOTALLY PROFESSIONALLY WHEN HE COULD HAVE LET HIS EMOTION GET TO IT.

NOW, AFTER BECOMING MAYOR, I'VE GROWN TO RESPECT THAT IMMENSELY.

HIS EXPERIENCE AS YOU'VE HEARD, WAS BROAD AND DEEP, AND HE WAS NEVER SHY ABOUT EXPRESSING HIS ASSESSMENT OF WHERE I WAS WRONG.

AND I ACTUALLY WELCOME THAT. I DON'T LIKE YES PEOPLE.

I BELIEVE THAT THE BEST OUTCOMES COME FROM START WITH FRANK DISCUSSIONS FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND I RESPECT YOU IMMENSELY, CHIEF, FOR PUSHING BACK ON ME AND NOT, NOT BEATING ME TO DEATH ON THAT.

ON LEARNING MORE ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND AND HIS PERSONAL LIFE. I ACTUALLY BECAME A JEALOUS IN ADDITION TO ALL HIS EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION, DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE, HE'S AN AVIATOR AND WATERMAN, WHICH PLAYS DOWN RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD THAT THAT I LIKE TO DO IN MY PASTIME.

I NEVER GOT TO BE A PILOT, BUT I DID FLY PLANES.

SO HE'S A TRUE RENAISSANCE MAN, BUT THROUGH IT ALL, THE CHIEF ALWAYS PUT THE SERVICE SERVICES TOO AND THE SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC FIRST AND AS A GOOD LEADER, HIS PEOPLE CAME RIGHT BEHIND THAT MISSION.

AND I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTED YOU FOR THAT. CHIEF BUTLER WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PERSON TO APPROACH ME ABOUT RUNNING FOR MAYOR WHEN I HAD BEEN APPOINTED AFTER BILL BRAND PASSED AWAY. AND FRANKLY, I WASN'T CONSIDERING IT AT THE TIME.

BUT HE GOT ME THINKING. AND FRANKLY, I WAS A BIT SHOCKED, GIVEN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD HAD AND THE HEAD BUTTING THAT WE HAD.

BUT CERTAINLY MY RESPECT FOR THE CHIEF STRONGLY INFLUENCED MY DECISION.

SO DEPENDING ON HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT ME AS MAYOR, YOU CAN THANK OR BLAME THE CHIEF AS THE GUY WHO STARTED IT ALL.

I ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE LAST SESSION THAT YOUR PARTY, YOUR RETIREMENT PARTY, I FORGOT SOMETHING AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE, BUT THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS, YOU HAD MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES YOUR WIFE HAD WATCHED A COUNCIL MEETING OR YOU DISCUSSED SOMETHING WITH HER AND YOU GAVE ME HER PERSPECTIVE.

AND WE HEARD THAT FROM ANOTHER FIRE CHIEF. AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK JEAN FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS BEHIND THE POWER, SO TO SPEAK. SO APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE AND THAT YOU RESPECTED YOUR WIFE ENOUGH TO, TO BRING THAT IN.

SO PLEASE. SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, IS SHE? SO PLEASE THANK ME.

THANK HER ON BEHALF OF ME AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND BEFORE I GET TO THE CLOSING STATEMENTS. I'D LIKE THE CITY MANAGER, MIKE WITZANSKY, TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND THE MAYOR HAVE ENCAPSULATED PAT'S SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY AND SUCCESS QUITE WELL.

AND THE REMARKS EARLIER WERE ALSO EXCEPTIONAL.

JUST A FEW, FEW HIGH POINTS FROM THE INSIDE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH PAT FOUR PLUS YEARS AGO TO TALK ABOUT COMING ON AND PERHAPS LEADING

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WE LAID OUT A LOT OF DAUNTING OBJECTIVES, A LOT OF TASKS THAT LOOKED PRETTY INSURMOUNTABLE AT THE TIME, THE ASSESSMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI MENTIONED WAS WAS A DIFFICULT ONE.

IT WAS A SERIOUS SELF-REFLECTION ON OUR PART AT THE TIME.

AND AS I SHARED UPSTAIRS, THERE WASN'T A SENSE OF PRIDE IN THE DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME.

WE WERE SOMEWHAT SULLEN. WE WERE CONTEMPLATING THE COUNTY AS A PROSPECTIVE PARTNER OR NEW DEPARTMENT OF SERVICE.

AND WE WERE, WE WEREN'T WHERE WE WANTED TO BE.

AND THAT WAS CLEAR. AND WHEN WE TALKED WHAT I THINK MOST IMPRESSED ME ABOUT PAT WHEN HE FIRST CAME ON BOARD AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE ASSIGNMENT AND POTENTIALLY BECOMING CHIEF IS HIS WILLINGNESS AND HIS ENERGY AND HIS ENTHUSIASM TO RAISE THE BAR TO REALLY INSTILL A NEW SENSE OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARD, A NEW SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY, A NEW SENSE OF PRIDE IN SERVICE DELIVERY.

MANY OF THE ANSWERS AND OPTIONS THAT WE HAD BEEN CONTEMPLATED ADMINISTRATIVELY OVER THE YEARS, THE TYPICAL RESPONSE WAS, WE CAN'T DO THAT. OUR DEPLOYMENT MODEL IS THIS WAY, AND IT'S ONLY THIS WAY IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE KNEW AS AN ORGANIZATION.

WHAT PAT BROUGHT IN IS BROADER WISDOM, A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND EXPERIENCE DELIVERING SERVICE IN DIFFERENT FORMS OF OF COMMUNITY AND IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND THAT REALLY ALLOWED FOR INGENUITY, INNOVATION, AND GROWTH.

AND THAT'S WHAT LED US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TIERED DISPATCHING, THAT'S A THAT WAS ALMOST A NONSTARTER FIVE YEARS AGO FOR US.

WE DO THAT ON THE DAILY NOW. PRE-ARRIVAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR MEDICAL SITUATIONS, WORKING WITH OUR DISPATCHING GROUP TO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT HUGE ADJUSTMENT IN OUR LIFE SAVING RATE.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, A MASSIVE CHANGE, RISK BASED FIRE INSPECTION, THAT WHOLE PROGRAM WAS A BENEFIT TO RESIDENTS AND IT WAS A BENEFIT TO BUSINESSES AND IT WAS A BENEFIT TO COMMUNITY SAFETY. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AND MENTIONING OF THE UPDATING OF OUR HARBOR PATROL FUNCTION, NEW SERVICE DELIVERY, THERE. NEW EXPECTATIONS, NEW STANDARDS, WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BRING ABOUT SHARED POLICING AND FIRE SERVICE. WE'VE BEEN DEPLOYING THAT WITH SUCCESS OF LATE, THAT WAS A MASSIVE CHANGE, SOMETHING THAT WAS UNHEARD OF FIVE YEARS AGO.

YOU KNOW, CONTEMPORIZING OUR FLEET, OUR LEVEL OF RESOURCES MESSAGING AND COMMUNICATING OUR SUCCESSES, OUR LIFE SAVES. THERE HAVE BEEN JUST TEARFUL, INCREDIBLE STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SAVED BY OUR DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF OUR EXCELLENT TRAINING, OUR EXCELLENT LEVEL OF SERVICE DELIVERY, AND OUR LEVEL OF RESPONSE.

AND THOSE FOLKS COME IN, THEY SIT WITH OUR TEAM AND THEY SAY, THANK YOU.

THEY'RE SURPRISED THAT THEY'RE STILL ALIVE IN MANY INSTANCES.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE OF EXCELLENCE.

AND NOW WHAT I BELIEVE IS AN INCREDIBLY PRIDEFUL DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK WHAT MAYBE IS PAT'S GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT, AND I SAID THIS UPSTAIRS, IS THAT HE ENABLED A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THREE DECADES, GAVE ME CONFIDENCE TO SAY VERY PLAINLY, VERY CLEARLY, WE ARE GOING TO HIRE FROM WITHIN FOR OUR NEXT FIRE CHIEF.

WE HAD FOUR INCREDIBLE DIVISION CHIEF CANDIDATES WHO ALL COMPETED.

THEY COMPETED WITH GRACE. THEY COMPETED WITH SUPPORT FOR ONE ANOTHER, AND THEY DEMONSTRATED JUST EXTRAORDINARY ABILITY AND ACHIEVEMENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF EXTERNAL PANELISTS THAT HELPED US WITH THAT RECRUITMENT EFFORT.

CHIEF SPRENGEL WAS ON THAT PANEL AS WELL. TO A T, EVERYBODY SAID IT'S EFFECTIVELY AN EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES.

YOU YOU HAVE AMAZING CANDIDATES WITHIN MOST ORGANIZATIONS WOULD COVET ONE CANDIDATE.

YOU'VE GOT FOUR. AND IT WAS A TOUGH CHOICE TO ULTIMATELY PROMOTE CHIEF REGAN, WHO WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE HERE IN A SECOND.

BUT THAT WAS REALLY, IN THE END, PAT'S GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT, BRINGING ABOUT A CULTURE OF EXCELLENCE, BRINGING ABOUT A STANDARD OF CARE AND ELEVATING OUR PROFESSIONALISM.

AND TO BE A CLASS ONE DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOW CEMENTED, NOT JUST TEMPORARILY, BUT AS WE GO FORWARD IS EXTRAORDINARY.

SO I AM SO GRATEFUL I MENTIONED SOME OF THE MORE PERSONAL THINGS UPSTAIRS.

WORKING WITH PAT HAS BEEN A REAL, REAL JOY, A REAL PLEASURE FOR ME.

BUT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING THAT WE SET OUT FOR HIM.

HE'S DONE IT WITH GRACE, AND HE'S DONE IT WITH EXCITEMENT AND PASSION AND EFFECTIVENESS.

AND REALLY, PAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR CITY. ALL RIGHT BUDDY.

THANK YOU MIKE. SO IN CLOSING, I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY TO HAVE HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF GETTING TO KNOW AND WORK WITH CHIEF BUTLER, AND I WILL PERSONALLY MISS HIM. AND THE CITY IS LOSING A GREAT LEADER.

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AND NOW, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE KEY TO THE CITY. HEARTFELT THANK YOU.

CHIEF, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. WOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. YES. I DID WALK INTO HIS OFFICE AND CLOSE THE DOOR, AND I SAID YOU SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR. AND IT WAS NOT ANYTHING PERSONAL OR ANYTHING OR AN INTEREST OR SELF INTEREST, BUT I HADN'T SEEN A PERSON DEDICATE THE TIME HE WAS PUTTING IN EVERY DAY AND DOING THE WORK THAT I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T FAULT SOMEONE FOR SAYING NO WHEN THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS OUT IN FRONT OF THEM.

AND SO THANK YOU. AND WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL. AND THE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE IS THANKFUL.

AND YES, MY STYLE SOMETIMES IS NOT SUBTLE, BUT I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING HERE.

AND MIKE, AN AMAZING BOSS, WICKED SMART. NOTHING BETTER THAN YOU CAN ASK FOR IS WORK FOR SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU HAVE SOME GOOD EXPECTATIONS. I'M A BIG FAN OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

LIKE FOR ME THAT DRIVES ME PERSONALLY IS THAT I WANT TO KNOW THE EXPECTATION.

AND MIKE IS YOU'VE BEEN JUST AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND THANK YOU, AND I'LL HAVE GREAT MEMORIES.

AND I LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.

I DID NOT, I CAME HERE THINKING 32 YEAR VETERAN FIRE CHIEF, THAT I COULD ACCOMPLISH ANY TASK.

AND I CAME HERE AND I WAS A NEWBIE WHEN IT CAME TO UNDERSTANDING HOW GOVERNMENT REALLY WORKS.

AND IT WAS FANTASTIC. THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN AMAZING.

I'VE ENJOYED MY INTERACTIONS WITH EVERYBODY. IT'S BEEN JUST FOR ME IT'S KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE JOB IS TO INTERACT WITH ELECTEDS THAT ARE JUST PERSONABLE INTO THE JOB, SPEND THE TIME AND EFFORT, EACH HAVE THEIR OWN HOBBIES AND THEIR NUANCES AND JUST IT'S AWESOME.

AND I WILL TELL YOU A SHORT STORY WHEN MY WIFE WOULD SAY, ARE YOU GOING TO ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND I SAID, YEAH. AND SHE GOES, WHY DO YOU GO? BECAUSE I LOVE WATCHING GOVERNMENT IN ACTION.

THESE FOLKS DEBATE A POLICY IN REAL TIME, AND THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

WHERE I CAME FROM, I CAME FROM LOS ANGELES AND I WILL SAY, AND I KNOW I'M ON TV, MUCH OF THAT IS A CHARADE.

OKAY. SHOCKING NEWS. BUT I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A DISRESPECTFUL WAY.

I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THE GOVERNMENT COULD WORK THIS WAY.

TO THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE TRUST IN ME AND OUR DEPARTMENT.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. AND THE BADGE WE WEAR, YOU GUYS LET US WEAR IT.

WE DON'T OWN IT. BUT YOU'RE AS JUST A BIG A PART OF WHAT WE DO IN THIS COMMUNITY.

ON THE NOTION OF BEING CLASS ONE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE TRAVELED THE WORLD.

I'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THE BIGGEST INCIDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY IN MY CAREER.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN THIS CITY, THAT THIS DEPARTMENT, THIS DEPARTMENT HERE EXCEEDS THE PERSONNEL AND CULTURE OF THE DEPARTMENTS I'VE WORKED FOR AND SUPERVISED.

IT'S PLATINUM SERVICE HERE. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU HAVE IT.

AND IT'S BECAUSE YOU GUYS SUPPORT US. THE PART OF THIS THAT IS GOING TO BE MISSED FOR ME IS HOW MUCH LOVE I HAVE FOR THE JOB AND FOR THE FOLKS I WORK WITH.

BECAUSE THE FIREFIGHTERS I WORKED WITH, I CAME HERE FROM A BIG DEPARTMENT AND I CAME HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO HELP PARTICIPATE, SEE WHAT I COULD DO TO HELP GUIDE THE WAY AND WHAT I LEARNED IS THEY BROUGHT OUT THE BEST IN ME THAT I DON'T LEAD

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AND THE SAME WITH THE PUBLIC. IT'S BEEN A GREAT CAREER.

I HAD A GREAT TIME HERE. I HAD A LOT OF FUN. I HAD A LOT OF LAUGHS.

POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN AMAZING. THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN AMAZING. BEFORE I SIGN OFF I HAVE A LITTLE GRANDSON. HE CAN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT.

I WANT TO LOOK IN THE CAMERA AND TELL HIM THAT HIS GRANDFATHER LOVES HIM.

I'M PROUD OF HIM. HE STRUGGLED? HE'S DOING WELL. HE FOUGHT HARD. HE'S DOING AMAZING. HE WAS IN NICU FOR LIKE 60 DAYS.

HE'S AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING KID. AND I JUST WANT TO SORRY I GOT TEARED UP A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY YOU'LL BE UP HERE.

AND WITH THAT, ALL I CAN SAY IS. THANK YOU. AND, CHIEF REGAN, YOU GOT AN AMAZING DEPARTMENT. THANKS.

YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS OR WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU THE.

WELL, THAT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. BUT AS A TESTAMENT TO HIS LEGACY, I'M PROUD TO INTRODUCE CAPTAIN OR CHIEF REGAN, WHO WILL BE TAKING FILLING THE HOLE THAT PAT LEAVES US.

AND THANKS TO HIS LEADERSHIP, WE'RE SET UP TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN.

SO WITH THAT, COME ON UP, CHIEF. I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST PUBLIC OFFICIAL ENGAGEMENT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND I'LL TURN TURN THIS OVER TO MIKE.

CHIEF BRIAN REGAN AS I MENTIONED, SURVIVED AND WAS THE ULTIMATE, PROMOTEE THROUGH A VERY COMPETITIVE INTERNAL RECRUITMENT PROCESS. AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE DIVISION CHIEF CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED.

IT WAS JUST AN EXTRAORDINARY TESTAMENT TO WHAT WE HAD JUST DISCUSSED WITH PAT'S LEADERSHIP, THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STAFF. AND I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN IN THIS DEPARTMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER THREE DECADES.

BRIAN, JUST BRIEFLY AND REALLY, THE NIGHT'S HIS.

SO I WANT HIM TO DO MOST OF SPEAKING. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY SURPRISED ME THE MOST ABOUT BRIAN AND HIS 14 YEARS OF FIRE SERVICE HERE IN REDONDO BEACH IS HIS LEVEL OF MATURITY. BRIAN IS TRULY WISE BEYOND HIS YEARS.

HE HAS DEVELOPED AND GROWN IN AN ORGANIZATION VERY QUICKLY.

14 YEARS ON THE JOB TO BE PROMOTED TO CHIEF IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL.

YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN MANY INSTANCES. BUT BRIAN HAS DONE IT THROUGH AN INCREDIBLE SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AS I SAID, WISDOM AND MATURITY CULTURALLY AN ABILITY TO RELATE AND SUPERVISE AND HOLD ACCOUNTABLE HIS FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS TO CARRY HIMSELF WITH CLASS AND INTEGRITY. BRIAN HAS SHOWN INCREDIBLE DECISION MAKING IN EACH OF HIS STOPS AS SUPERVISOR.

HE MAINTAINS HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION TO THIS DAY AND PLANS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

HE HAS GREAT BACKGROUND IN THAT PORTION OF FIRE, SERVICE DELIVERY, WHICH, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, IS, IS REALLY WHERE IT'S AT THESE DAYS IN FIRE OPERATIONS.

95% OF WHAT WE DO IS, IS TREATING FOLKS IN A MEDICAL CAPACITY.

AND BRIAN AND HIS BACKGROUND PRE FIRE SERVICE, AS WELL AS HIS DEVELOPMENT FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT AREA. BRIAN HAS HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN HIS ROLE AS FIRE MARSHAL FOR US.

HE IS INCREDIBLE WITH EVENT PLANNING. BRIAN HAS BEEN VERY DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH OUR BEACH LIFE SPECIAL EVENT PLANNING, SAFETY, EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND COORDINATION, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND AT EVERY STOP AND IN EVERY PROMOTION, HE'S CARRIED HIMSELF WITH CLASS, DIGNITY AND, AS I SAID,

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THAT IS ONE THING THAT I AM VERY CONFIDENT BRIAN WILL DO IS CARRY THE TORCH FARTHER, RAISE THE BAR HIGHER, AND CONTINUE TO DELIVER, AS PAT MENTIONED, PLATINUM PLUS SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN REDONDO BEACH.

SO BRIAN, CONGRATULATIONS. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE INCREDIBLE CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN YOU.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT WHERE YOU BELONG. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE JOB.

THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THIS ON.

HE'S GOING TO TAKE THE OATH AND HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY INVITE SOMEBODY UP THERE. OKAY. WE'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD. SURE.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I STATE YOUR NAME. I, BRIAN REGAN. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND.

THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND. THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THE CONSTITUTION.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES. AGAINST ALL ENEMIES. FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH.

THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH. AND ALLEGIANCE. AND ALLEGIANCE.

TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY. THEN I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY.

WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION. WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION.

OR PURPOSE OF EVASION. OR PURPOSE OF EVASION.

AND THAT I WILL WELL. AND THAT I WILL WELL. AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE.

AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE. THE DUTIES UPON. THE DUTIES UPON.

WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M PROUD TO INTRODUCE FORMALLY OUR NEW FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF REGAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, FOR THE KIND WORDS AND THE MAYOR.

IT'S TRULY A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO STAND HERE AND BE ANNOUNCED AS INTRODUCED AS THE NEXT FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY FOR PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN ME TO LEAD OUR GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

TO CHIEF BUTLER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND MENTORSHIP OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

I CAN SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION WHEN I SAY THAT WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. I KNOW I'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL FROM YOU. FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NO WAY I WOULD EVER THINK OF COMPETING FOR THIS POSITION.

BUT YOU GAVE US A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU GAVE US THE CONFIDENCE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME YOU SPENT WITH ME TO GET ME READY FOR THIS POSITION.

TO THE OTHER CHIEF OFFICERS, CHIEF YANG, CHIEF DALEY, CHIEF MAY.

I'M EXTREMELY FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU IN THE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW CHIEF YANG WAS MY FIRST CAPTAIN.

CHIEF DALEY HAS HAD A HUGE INFLUENCE ON MY CAREER.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, CHIEF MAY IS ON A STRIKE TEAM DEPLOYMENT RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T BE HERE.

BUT ANY OF US COULD HAVE BEEN STANDING HERE TODAY AND HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ALL OF US TO DO THE JOB.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POSITION.

IT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY, AND I'M READY TO TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE REDONDO BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IN THIS NEW ROLE.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE STRONG FOUNDATION WE HAVE AS A CLASS ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS OF REDONDO BEACH. TO MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS, OBVIOUSLY MY FAMILY IS BACK EAST, BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD TO LOOK AROUND HERE AND SEE MY FIRE DEPARTMENT FAMILY HERE.

MY GIRLFRIEND TRACY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YEAH, IT'S JUST AN EXCITING TIME.

ANYONE THAT KNOWS ME KNOWS I CAME HERE FROM NEW YORK.

I'VE BEEN HERE 14 YEARS. I FEEL LIKE I HAVEN'T BEEN AT WORK FOR ONE DAY.

I STILL PINCH MYSELF WHEN I GO WALK BY THE ESPLANADE AND REALIZE HOW FORTUNATE I AM TO HAVE THIS JOB.

AND I'M GOING TO ENJOY THIS TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO CHERISH THIS MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING I'LL NEVER FORGET FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK TOMORROW MORNING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG PROJECTS GOING ON WITH MEASURE FP, AND WE'RE BUILDING NEW FIRE STATIONS THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

WE HAVE HALF MARATHONS COMING IN THE CITY, THE BEACHLIFE FESTIVAL, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK, AND I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND DO A GOOD JOB AND FOLLOW IN CHIEF BUTLER'S FOOTSTEPS. THANK YOU.

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AND AS OUR LAST PROCLAMATION, IT'S NOT A PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE DOWN ALL THE CONTINUING AND NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO BE SWORN IN.

COME ON DOWN. I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE CONTINUING IN THE POSITIONS.

THANKS FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT. TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW THANK YOU FOR THROWING YOUR HAT IN THE RING.

IT WAS A TOUGH DECISION CYCLE. WE'RE EXPECTING THE BEST OUT OF YOU, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

SO THANK YOU FOR APPLYING AND TAKING THE TIME.

AND THANKS TO THOSE WHO ARE CONTINUING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE, SIR.

OKAY. I'M ELEANOR MANZANO. I'M THE CITY CLERK, AND I'M GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE LOBBY AND SIGN YOUR CERTIFICATE.

SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND YOU'RE GOING TO REPEAT AFTER ME.

I STATE YOUR NAME. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND.

I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND. THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES. AGAINST ALL ENEMIES. FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH.

AND I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH. AND ALLEGIANCE. AND ALLEGIANCE.

TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY.

I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY. WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION.

WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION. OR PURPOSE OF EVASION.

OR PURPOSE OF EVASION. AND THAT I WILL WELL. AND THAT I WILL WELL. AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE.

AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE. THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONERS. WE WOULD LIKE TO PASS THE MIC AND JUST MENTION WHICH COMMISSION YOU'RE ON AND YOUR NAME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS RYAN MALCOLM AND I'LL BE JOINING THE COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC AMENITIES.

I'M RON MAROKO I'M ALSO ON THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

DESIREE GALASSI, PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

TOM GAMBLE, PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION. ALEXANDRA DOMINGUEZ PUBLIC AMENITIES.

NEXT TO EACH OTHER. JOSH COY BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION.

TERESA MITCHELL, PUBLIC WORKS. HI, I'M SEAN MULLION AND I'M ON THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

CHRISTINA CHRISTIAN KELLY, CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

I'M JAMIE MORGAN. I'M ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION.

NEXT. I'M BRIAN STINE YOUTH COMMISSION. PHIL HOFFMAN PUBLIC WORKS SAFETY AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

ANDREW BREIDENBACH, PLANNING COMMISSION. JACOB MARK, HARBOR COMMISSION.

JEFFREY SMITH, CULTURAL ARTS. HE'S GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE.

IN A LITTLE BIT. AND BE SHORTER. I KNOW. I HAVE TO.

I'M ON A DIET SO I'M SHORTER THAN YOU. IT'S NOT FAIR.

OH, I FORGOT IT'S COVERED. THE CHIEFS. THE CHIEFS.

ALL RIGHT, CLASS OF 26.

CLASS YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBERS. OH! THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

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THANK YOU. SEE YOU. I GOTTA RECONFIGURE. STEPPING UP.

THANK YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YEAH. YEAH. YOU WANT TO DO IT NOW? YEAH. OKAY.

I DON'T WANT THIS. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH.

OH, REALLY? YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. OH, YEAH.

OH, OKAY. YEAH. YEAH YEAH. THIS IS USUALLY LIKE THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

WAIT. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. WE'RE GOOD. ARE THEY.

OKAY, CONTINUING WITH THE PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS.

LET'S SEE. I DID ATTEND THE KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST WEEK.

I ALSO ATTENDED A REGIONAL COUNCIL MEETING OF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS.

GOT A LOT OUT OF THAT SESSION, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON HOUSING MANDATES AND THE PUSHBACK FROM A GROWING NUMBER OF CITIES, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THE HOUSING MANDATES.

THIS WEEKEND WE HAVE TWO EVENTS BACK TO BACK.

WE GOT THE KINGS 5K ON SATURDAY MORNING IN RIVIERA VILLAGE.

AND THEN JUST BELOW THAT WE'VE GOT SWIM THE AVENUES ON SUNDAY.

SO TWO GREAT EVENTS BACK TO BACK THIS WEEKEND.

NEVER A DULL MOMENT HERE IN REDONDO. SO I'LL GO AROUND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL NOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THANK YOU MAYOR. LET'S SEE.

LAST WEEK, I ATTENDED THE CITY SCHOOL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE DISCUSSED BACK TO SCHOOL UPDATES.

AS A NOTE, THERE WERE ABOUT 30 CITATIONS GIVEN TO DRIVERS ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, SO REMEMBER TO DRIVE SAFELY AROUND THE SCHOOLS.

ANOTHER THING FROM RBUSD. THEY ARE IN TALKS WITH A FEW COUNTRIES FOR USE OF FACILITIES FOR THE OLYMPICS AND PARALYMPICS.

SO THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS THERE. THURSDAY MORNING I WAS AT THE REDONDO BEACH ROUNDTABLE.

WE AT THE SOUTH BAY ADULT SCHOOL, WE HEARD FROM LOCAL RESIDENT AND KTLA METEOROLOGIST VERA JIMENEZ WITH AN UPDATE ON EL NINO TRACKING, TRACKING FROM RBUSD SUPERINTENDENT NICOLE WESLEY AND DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT NICK STEPHANY ON THEIR PROGRESS WITH BOND MEASURE S AND LUKE, OUR OWN LUKE OVER HERE GAVE US GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S FP PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY BOND.

THURSDAY AFTERNOON. I WAS ALSO DOWNTOWN, BUT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MAYOR.

THE CLEAN POWER ALLIANCE BOARD MEETING. THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE NEW PROGRAMS TARGETING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES FOR ASSISTANCE WITH AIR CONDITIONING AND EV CHARGING.

LOOK FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR APPLICATIONS LATE THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO APARTMENT OWNERS, BUILDING OWNERS AND IN THE REDONDO BEACH. SO IF WE CAN KEEP SOME OF THAT MONEY HERE.

THIS UPCOMING THURSDAY NRBBA WILL HAVE RISE AND SHINE REDONDO AT THE GALLERIA AT 8 A.M..

THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS THEIR NETWORK CAFE AT MI BURRITO AT 11:30 A.M., AND RUHS WILL BE PLAYING THEIR SECOND HOME GAME OF THE YEAR AT 7 P.M.

AT SEAHAWK STADIUM. THAT'S THURSDAY, NOT FRIDAY.

THIS TIME. FRIDAY WILL BE A CEREMONY HERE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL IN HONOR OF THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF 911.

THE CEREMONY WILL START AT 8:46 A.M., AND THE LAST CRUISE IN THE LAGOON WILL BE FRIDAY, 3 TO 6 P.M.

AT THE HARBOR PARKING LOT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I ATTENDED THE ROUNDTABLE MEETING AS WELL ON THURSDAY, AND THEN ON THURSDAY EVENING I ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE L.A.

COUNTY ASIAN DEMOCRATS, WHERE I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH SEVERAL OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR OUR STATE ASSEMBLY MEMBER AS WELL AS OUR STATE SENATOR.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

YES. I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY.

I ALSO HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING YESTERDAY, LABOR DAY WITH SIGNIFICANT ATTENDANCE OVER PROBABLY 50 PEOPLE WERE THERE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. THANK YOU TO DIRECTOR VINKE FOR OPENING UP AN AIR CONDITIONED SPACE YESTERDAY.

IT WAS LOVELY. AND TO CITY ATTORNEY FORD FOR DELIVERING A PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR ROBUST, ENHANCED RESPONSE TO

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WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT FUNCTIONAL ZERO MEANS, WHO AND HOW WE'RE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS AND WHY WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE PROUD OF THIS. AND I WILL SAY THAT WE HAD SOME HEATED MOMENTS, AND I'VE HEARD FROM SOME THAT THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT TENSION IN THE ROOM. AND, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE NOT MANDATORY.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HOLD MEETINGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT IT IS CLEARLY AN IMPORTANT WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE AND FEEL HEARD AND CONNECTED TO THEIR GOVERNMENT. BUT THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF RESPECTFUL DIALOG DURING THESE MEETINGS SO THAT IT IS A PRODUCTIVE SPACE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS AND I WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A WELCOMING SPACE FOR EVERYONE.

THAT'S IT. MAYOR. THANK YOU. SORRY YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. ALL RIGHT. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THESE RAUCOUS COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND I AM INCLINED TO SCHEDULE ONE OF MY OWN ON ZOOM. SO PEOPLE WHO DISTURB THE DECORUM CAN BE BOOTED.

BUT AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ONE SCHEDULED, SO I'LL PROBABLY PLAN FOR THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

YES, MAYOR, I DO HAVE A AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE TO REPORT.

THE IT'S AN EXPENSE FOR THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DIVISION.

LUNCH AT THE UPCOMING SEPTEMBER 2026 LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE AND EXPO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO FOOT STOMP AND THANKS FOR ADDING AT THE 911 MEMORIAL SERVICE THIS FRIDAY.

08:30 CORRECT. 8:46. 8:46. 8:46. 8:46 SO BE HERE EARLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOMENT.

IT STARTS. YEAH. THE PLANE HIT THE TOWER. SO AND ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR CITY CLERK, ELEANOR MANZANO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT. YEAH, I'M A GRANDMOTHER AS OF TODAY AT 4:40 A.M.

IN THE MORNING. CONGRATULATIONS. MY OLDEST DAUGHTER HAD HIM.

OH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. OKAY WITH THAT. GOING DOWN TO ITEM E APPROVED THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.

[E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT ABSENT.

[G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

WE HAVE ONE, A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION FOR J.1 FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF NON-AGENDA ITEMS. AND THEN FOR N.2 WE HAVE A CITY CLERK SALARY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY CLERK, ELEANOR MANZANO, REGARDING THE POTENTIAL SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE CITY CLERK IN ADVANCE OF THE MARCH 2027 REGULAR ELECTION.

AND THAT IS ALL, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT ABSENT.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO ITEM H, THE CONSENT CALENDAR H.1 THROUGH H.7.

[H. CONSENT CALENDAR]

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT H.6 SB 799.

THE LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THAT WAS WRITTEN TO THE GOVERNOR.

I HOPE IT GETS SIGNED. AND THESE CHANGES WOULD ALLOW NON-ELECTED ALTERNATES FOR THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST.

IT JUST ADDS MORE EFFICIENCY TO APPROVING THINGS.

ALSO IT WILL ALLOW PRESERVATION AS AN ACCEPTED USE OF THOSE FUNDS, WHICH IS AN ESSENTIAL TOOL IN, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK THAT WE HAVE.

AND IT ALSO WOULD AUTHORIZE FUNDING MODERATE INCOME HOUSING FROM PRIVATE FUNDS ONLY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, YOU MENTIONED ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? NO, THANK YOU FOR CHECKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE H.1 THROUGH H.7.

SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE.

DOES ANYBODY DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NONE. OKAY. DOES ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.7? ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS.

OKAY, WITH THAT, I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN ALL FOR IT.

AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

DO YOU WANT TO READ THROUGH? YEP. WE HAVE THREE FOUR ITEMS TO READ H.5 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY.

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WE HAVE H.7 INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 3317-26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ADDING TITLE FOUR, CHAPTER 38 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE CODE PERTAINING TO HEDGES FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING.

WE HAVE INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3318-26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 1, CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 1 TO 2.01 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO GENERAL PENALTIES, CONTINUING VIOLATIONS FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING, AND THEN INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3319-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 1, CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 1 TO 2.03 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO INFRACTIONS FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING.

AND THAT IS ALL MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS, SO WE WON'T HAVE AN ITEM I.

[J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

AND A REMINDER AGAIN, I HAVE TO ALTERNATE BETWEEN PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE ONLINE.

SO FIRST WE'LL START WITH. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WE DID VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT.

YES. OKAY. TRY TO STAY WITH US. I KNOW. THAT CAME FROM THIS SIDE OVER HERE.

YEAH. OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER IS FIRST CARD I HAVE IS JIM MUELLER.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

YESTERDAY'S DISTRICT THREE COMMUNITY MEETING SHOWED ME A REASON SOME CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS HAVE TENDED TO BE UNCONTESTED.

COUNCILPERSON KALUDEROVIC HAD PUBLISHED AND HANDED OUT AN AGENDA.

BUT VERY QUICKLY, SOME IN THE AUDIENCE LOUDLY AND ABUSIVELY INTERRUPTED HER, INTERJECTING THEIR OWN ISSUES INTO THE MEETING.

GLORIA STEINEM, THE RENOWNED FEMINIST WHO DIED RECENTLY, UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY FACED THE SAME SORT OF AGGRESSIVE, ILL MANNERED, OVEREMOTIONAL CONFRONTATIONS. AND YET SHE PUSHED ON, AND I HOPE THE TWO WOMEN WHO LED THE MEETING WILL PUSH ON BECAUSE THIS CITY COUNCIL, THE COMMISSIONS AND THE STAFF NEED THE PERSPECTIVE MORE WOMEN WILL BRING TO CITY GOVERNMENT.

CITY GOVERNMENT IS CLOSEST TO THE ISSUES THAT FAMILIES FACE AND HALF OF ALL ELECTED, APPOINTED AND HIRED CITY OFFICES OUGHT TO BE HELD BY WOMEN.

CLEAR IN YESTERDAY'S MEETING WAS THAT THE EXTREME EMOTION HAD GOTTEN THE BETTER OF SOME IN THE AUDIENCE.

THE POINTS THEY HAD IN MIND MAY HAVE BEEN VALID, BUT THE WAY THEY MADE THEIR POINTS WASN'T CONVINCING.

IT WAS FRIGHTENING. I LIVE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, AND I HOPE THERE IS A WOMAN WITH COURAGE, BRAINS AND TOUGHNESS TO STEP FORWARD BEFORE THE OCTOBER FILING DEADLINE AND FILE TO RUN FOR THAT SEAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH, IN CLOSING, SOMETHING ABOUT THE MAIN ISSUE OF THE MEETING AGENDA.

REDONDO BEACH'S APPROACH TO HOMELESSNESS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS MANAGED AND RUN ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY BY WOMEN.

IT ISN'T PERFECT. IT COSTS MONEY, BUT IT EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSES A PROBLEM THAT HAS DISTURBED THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS.

AND IT ADDRESSES THAT PROBLEM IN A WAY THAT RECOGNIZES THE GREAT MAJORITY OF HOMELESS AREN'T CRIMINALS, BUT HUMAN BEINGS WHO NEED HELP. IF YOU WERE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCES, HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO BE TREATED AS TRASH TO BE SWEPT OFF THE STREET OR AS A HUMAN BEING WHO NEEDS HELP? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE AND NO ECOMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE. THAT WAS THE ONLY CARD I HAD.

OFFICIAL TONIGHT. THEY EVEN WORE THE LAPEL PIN.

YOU GUYS GAVE ME? MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RON MAROKO DISTRICT THREE.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHIEF BUTLER FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

HE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

IF I DID A LOT OF RESEARCHING OF OUR CITY HISTORY THIS WEEKEND, AND I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A TOP NOTCH CITY MANAGER,

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I WILL TAKE CHIEF BUTLER'S COMMENTS WHICH WAS THAT HE'S WICKED SMART.

SO WHENEVER I HAVE TO DESCRIBE YOU NOW, I CAN ALWAYS SAY YOU'RE WICKED SMART.

AND THAT SHOULD BE THE CODE WORD THAT SAYS, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU.

SO THANK YOU. IT DEPENDS WHICH ONE YOU EMPHASIZE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? TERESA MITCHELL IN DISTRICT FOUR AND ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS OF OURNRB IN THE NORTH REDONDO BEACH FARMERS MARKET.

SO I'M COMING TO ANNOUNCE TO COUNCIL AND THEN WHOEVER'S LISTENING IS THAT WE ARE, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOPEFULLY EXTENDING THE MARKET INTO A PERMANENT FEATURE OF NORTH REDONDO COMING UP SHORTLY.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE VOLUNTEERS AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S FOUR OF US RIGHT NOW WITH OUR MARKET MANAGER.

AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY ASSET.

SO IF YOU DO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE VOLUNTEERING CAN BE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST SET UP AND TAKE DOWN, BUT MARKETING, ADVERTISING AND REACHING OUT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO OFFER AND KIND OF IN LIGHT OF COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC'S MEETING AND I'VE MENTIONED TO HER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET IS A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE AND WE DO HAVE A MARKET MANAGER BOOTH AND IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY IN A PLACE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY OUT WITHOUT HAVING A SECOND MEETING, WITHOUT HAVING. WE DID GET SOUTH BAY COG DID REACH OUT TO US TODAY ASKING IF THEY CAN COME AND GIVE HIM SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE LOCAL TRAVEL NETWORK WHICH WE WILL COORDINATE WITH.

AND I THINK IF WE CAN USE THIS MARKET AS, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION, BUT ALSO AS A PLACE FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WILL DO SURVEYS ON FACEBOOK OR IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS AS WELL. BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT AREN'T USING TECHNOLOGY AND THAT ARE AT THE MARKET.

AND IF IT'S HAPPENING IN DISTRICT THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, IT ACCEPTS THEM.

SO, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE MIGHT BE IS WE HAVE A MAP OF WHERE ALL THE NEW CROSSWALKS ARE OR CROSSING GUARDS ARE WITH THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS OR EXPLAINING AGAIN, EXPLAINING THE LOCAL TRAVEL NETWORK. BUT WE THINK WE'D LOVE TO OFFER THAT TO COUNCIL AND TO STAFF, AS A FORUM THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY AT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US SOON TO HOPEFULLY EXTEND THE FARMER'S MARKET PERMANENTLY.

THANKS FOR THE OFFER. ARE YOU GOING TO PUT OUT A SOAP BOX THAT WE CAN STAND ON? SPEAKER'S CORNER, THE OLD FASHIONED OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON. WELL, BEFORE LESLIE, BEFORE YOU COME UP.

ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. LESLIE CAMPEGGI, DISTRICT TWO.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR DELIBERATION NEXT WEEK ON SEPTEMBER 15TH REGARDING PHASE ONE OF THE KING HARBOR AMENITIES PLAN. NOW, I KNOW YOU SENT IT TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION AND THAT THEY TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TACK, AND THEY DIDN'T SEND IT BACK TO YOU SAYING, YES, WE BLESS IT AND GO AHEAD AND FILE FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION. BUT THEY ASKED FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY ASKED FOR AFTER MUCH DELIBERATION OF A AN UNVETTED PROJECT THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, THEY ASKED FOR OTHER ITEMS TO BE PRESENTED TO THEM THE DAY BEFORE YOU DELIBERATE ON THE ITEM ITSELF, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT BYPASSES THE PUBLIC PROCESSES THAT ARE SET UP FOR FAIR REVIEW AND BIDDING AND PROJECTS. BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PROJECT, YOU HAVE A PLAN, AND THE WICKED SMART CITY MANAGER HASN'T PUT TOGETHER AN RFP TO ASK FOR ALTERNATE PROJECTS BECAUSE HE'S WICKED SMART AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO DO THAT.

SO UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU HAVE A DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL THAT SAYS, OH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK, WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN PROPOSALS AND WRITE AN RFP AND ALLOW A LOT OF PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

YOU REALLY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN YOURSELVES UP TO PROCEDURAL PROBLEMS, POSSIBLE LEGAL PROBLEMS, AS WELL AS JUST CONFUSE THE HECK OUT OF THE PUBLIC WHO THINKS THAT YOU'RE CLOSE TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLAN, EVEN IF YOU WIND UP TWEAKING IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ONE LEFT? EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

INDEED. NICE SHIRT, BY THE WAY. WELL THANK YOU.

WELL, I'VE BEEN TOLD I NEED TO WEAR DIFFERENT SHIRTS NOW. SO ANYWAY WAYNE CRAIG RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE, BUT I KIND OF DO STUFF IN EVERY DISTRICT. SO LIKE YOU GUYS, I LIKE TO BE EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.

MY DRIVER'S LICENSE IS AS REDONDO BEACH DIDN'T SAY DISTRICT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE.

YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT ABOUT THE MARKET, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MYSELF.

AND ACTUALLY YOU SEE A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE FROM THE MARKET, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, PEOPLE IN OUR REDONDO BEACH SAYING, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A MARKET HERE? AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT TOOK SOME WORK AND SOME HARD TO.

AND VOLUNTEERS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING AT THE MARKET SINCE WE OPENED IT UP ON APRIL 22ND.

AS WE HEARD EARLIER, WE NEED VOLUNTEERS. WE NEED PEOPLE TO HELP OUT.

AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT OUR ABOUT THIS MARKET IS THAT THE PROCEEDS OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO IN OUR POCKETS.

IT'S GOING TO BE REINVESTED BACK IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ALREADY ARE WORKING WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS AND THINGS WE CAN IMPLEMENT TO MAKE. WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS AREA A PERSONAL GATHERING PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY? AND AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, IT'S GOING TO BE A PLACE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DISSEMINATE INFORMATION TO HELP GET OUT WORD ABOUT THINGS IN THE CITY. ONE THING I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IS OUR ARTESIA BOULEVARD AND AVIATION CORRIDOR BUILD OUT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS MISSING A BIG OPPORTUNITY ON OUTREACH ON THAT.

WE NEED TO GET THIS THING PASSED. THE TIME CLOCK IS TICKING.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START GETTING THE WORD OUT AND WE'RE WILLING TO HELP OUT. SO I WANT TO INVITE YOU ALL AGAIN. YOU BROUGHT A FLIER WEDNESDAY, TOMORROW FROM 2 TO 7. EXPECT TO SEE ALL OF YOU DOWN THERE.

IF YOU DO SHOW UP, I'LL BUY YOU A TAMALE. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? ANYWAY, WE DEFINITELY WANT YOU TO COME OUT THE WEEK THE SCHOOL'S BACK IN SESSION NOW.

SO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, JUST NEED TO GET SOME MORE STUFF GOING ON.

IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE. COME ON OUT. THE BEST THING I LIKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR SHIRTS AND PEOPLE COME UP AND THEY WANT TO SHAKE YOUR HAND, SAY, THANK YOU. THIS IS MY MARKET.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

NO. OKAY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

[N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

THIS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ESTABLISHING A CITY FACILITY NAMING POLICY.

JANE I THINK YOU'LL BE TAKING THIS ONE. SO YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR.

YES THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS JANE CHUNG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED TONIGHT, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ESTABLISHING A CITY FACILITY NAMING POLICY.

MY PRESENTATION WILL PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF BACKGROUND, AS WELL AS GO THROUGH KIND OF HIGH LEVEL ASPECTS OF THE DRAFT POLICY, WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO TODAY'S STAFF REPORT, AND THEN CONCLUDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

WITH REGARDS TO THE BACKGROUND, THIS ITEM IS IN RESPONSE TO A STRATEGIC PLAN GOAL 5.2 OBJECTIVE NUMBER 69.

AND AS IN RESPONSE TO THAT OBJECTIVE, STAFF RESEARCHED OTHER CITIES' NAMING POLICIES.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE DRAFT POLICY REFLECTS BEST PRACTICES AND AS WELL AS THE CITY'S VALUES.

AND IT WAS DONE IN COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS BEHRENDT AND OBAGI, AS WELL AS THE WATERFRONT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR ELIZABETH HAUSE.

ALL RIGHT. WITH REGARDS TO THE DRAFT POLICY, TO START OFF WITH THE NAMING CRITERIA, WE DECIDED THREE FACILITY TYPES MAJOR FACILITIES ARE YOUR CITY FACILITIES, BUILDINGS AS WELL AS PARKS.

MORE PERMANENT IN STRUCTURE. NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES ARE KIND OF THE SMALLER KIND OF AMENITIES WITHIN A MAJOR FACILITY, LIKE A MEETING ROOM. IT COULD BE A SPORTS OR RECREATION AREA OR COURT, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE ROOM.

AND THEN PARK STRUCTURES ARE MINOR STRUCTURES WITHIN A PARK SUCH AS A BENCH, A FENCE OR A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

WITH REGARDS TO CRITERIA, WE ARE LOOKING AT GEOGRAPHIC OR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE NAMES THAT REFLECT A CLEAR LOCATION, A NATIONAL SORRY, A NATURAL FEATURE, A NEARBY STREET OR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR HONORS A HISTORICAL EVENT, GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL OF LASTING IMPORTANCE. CRITERIA CAN ALSO BE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH EXCEPTIONAL CIVIC LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY SERVICE, AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN THAT HIGHLIGHTS THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ADVANCING CITY MISSION OR CITY VALUES.

WE DO HAVE A CLAUSE OR LANGUAGE IN THE CRITERIA ABOUT A ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD AFTER THE PASSING OF AN INDIVIDUAL, UNLESS IT'S WAIVED BY 4/5THS VOTE OF THE COUNCIL AND THEN CRITERIA OF AS WELL.

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BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO A VETTING PROCESS. SO SPEAKING OF THAT VETTING PROCESS, A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION FOR INDIVIDUALS OR CORPORATE SPONSORS WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.

WE WOULD REVIEW PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION, WHICH MAY INCLUDE PUBLIC RECORDS, MEDIA COVERAGE AND PROFESSIONAL OR REGULATORY SANCTIONS, IF APPLICABLE. ANYONE WHO HAS, OR ANY NAME THAT HAS A DISQUALIFYING BACKGROUND AS A RESULT OF THE VETTING PROCESS IS AUTOMATICALLY NOT ELIGIBLE.

AND THEN CURRENTLY WE ARE SAYING THAT THE FOLLOWING TWO CURRENT ELECTED APPOINTED OFFICIALS OR CURRENT CITY OR MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES ARE INELIGIBLE FOR NAMING CONSIDERATION.

WE DO INCLUDE A SECTION ON CORPORATE NAMING RIGHTS.

SO WE ARE IN THE POLICY. THE DRAFT POLICY ALLOWS FOR MAJOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES TO BE NAMED AFTER A CORPORATE ENTITY.

THE PROCESS MAY INCLUDE AN RFP OR DIRECT SOLICITATION.

THE CRITERIA THAT LISTED UP THERE, WE WOULD CONSIDER THE REPUTATION OF THAT CORPORATE ENTITY, WHETHER THE NAME AND WHAT THEY DO ALIGNS WITH THE FACILITY MISSION AND THE DURATION AND VALUE OF THE NAMING RIGHTS.

WE DO KIND OF HAVE A TERM AVERAGE OF A 5 TO 20 YEARS, BUT ULTIMATELY THE RIGHTS MAY BE REVOKED BY CITY COUNCIL BY A 4/5 VOTE IF THE REPUTATION NO LONGER ALIGNS. ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR CORPORATE NAMING RIGHTS.

WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE WOULD AVOID OVER COMMERCIALIZATION OF THE FACILITY.

IF WE WERE TO NAME A FACILITY AFTER A CORPORATION AND THAT A NAMING RIGHTS WOULD EXPIRE AND WOULD NOT EXTEND BEYOND THE CORPORATION'S OPERATIONAL LIFE. WITH REGARDS TO NAMING RESTRICTIONS, THE DRAFT POLICY STATES THAT THE MAJOR FACILITIES AND PARK STRUCTURES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL NAMING UNLESS IT'S COUNCIL APPROVED OR COUNCIL INITIATED.

CERTAIN FACILITIES CANNOT BE RENAMED, WHICH WE HAVE LISTED HERE.

CIVIC CENTER. THE 911 MEMORIAL VETERANS PARK HISTORIC LIBRARY, AND THEN ANY FACILITY OWNED BY ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

WE WOULD ALSO NOT ALLOW FOR NAMES THAT ARE POLITICAL, DISCRIMINATORY, PROFANE, OR OVERLY COMPLEX.

AND THEN WE WANT TO AVOID DUPLICATE NAMES OR SUBDIVISION OF OR SUBDIVISION OF FACILITIES, UNLESS IT'S A CLEAR PHYSICAL DIVISION LIKE A STREET OR A WATERWAY, A WATER FEATURE. WITH REGARDS TO THE NAMING PROCESS FOR MAJOR FACILITIES LIKE MENTIONED EARLIER.

INDIVIDUAL NAMING IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR MAJOR FACILITIES UNLESS IT'S INITIATED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO HENCE, CITY COUNCIL OVERSEES THE NAMING PROCESS FOR MAJOR FACILITIES.

THE CITY MANAGER AND ASSIGNED STAFF FOR WHOM THE CITY MANAGER WOULD ASSIGN, WOULD EVALUATE THE NAMING SUGGESTIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR APPROVAL, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A 4/5 VOTE FOR THAT NAME TO BE APPROVED.

AS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES, THE REQUEST CAN BE INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL OR AN APPLICANT.

APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED THROUGH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THE PAC, THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION, WOULD REVIEW WITHIN 30 DAYS, AND THEN A PUBLIC NOTICE WILL GO OUT DEPENDING IF THE PAC OR THEIR DECISION.

NOTICE THAT THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR CITY COUNCIL.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT WILL BE PREPARED BY STAFF.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE FINAL APPROVAL DECISION OF A 4/5 VOTE, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL PAY FULL COST WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THAT APPROVAL.

TO NOTE, THE CITY COUNCIL IS EXEMPT FROM SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION FEE, BUT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE APPLICATION FEE, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO COST RESPONSIBILITIES, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE APPLICATION FEE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD SUBMIT FOR A NAMING CONSIDERATION. THAT FEE IS NONREFUNDABLE. THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR ADMINISTRATION, STAFF TIME, LABOR AND MATERIALS AND SIGNAGE COSTS, WHICH WOULD BE COSTED OUT AND WORKED OUT WITH THAT APPLICANT IF THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED, AND THEN FEES WILL BE BASED ON THE CITY'S MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

WITH REGARDS TO RENAMING GUIDELINES, THE POLICY, AS IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, DISCOURAGES BUT ALLOWS FOR IT WHEN PERHAPS THE FACILITY USE CHANGES, THE FACILITY NO LONGER EXISTS BECAUSE IT'S DEMOED OR THE INDIVIDUAL'S REPUTATION NO LONGER ALIGNS WITH THE CITY VALUES.

THE POLICY DOES HAVE CURRENTLY LANGUAGE THAT EXISTING NAMES ARE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT MAY BE RECONSIDERED IF NEEDED, AND IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY'LL BE SUBJECT TO THE PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION ON THAT DRAFT POLICY, AS WELL AS PROVIDE OR DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN WITH A RESOLUTION TO FORMALLY ADOPT THE CITY FACILITY NAMING POLICY.

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THANK YOU, AND THANKS FOR THE WORK BY STAFF AND BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THIS ITEM.

WITH THAT, I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE YOU'VE GOT YOUR HAND UP.

YES. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE, IN TERMS OF THE LIST OF FACILITIES, COULD WE INCLUDE SEASIDE LAGOON, ALONG WITH VETERANS PARK AND THE HISTORIC LIBRARY OF LOCATIONS TO BE EXCLUDED? THEN SECONDLY, WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN THERE FOR THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON REMOVING A CORPORATE NAME, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY NAME DEPENDING ON THE REPUTATION OF THE PERSON COULD BE CHANGED BY THE COUNCIL WITH THE 4/5 VOTE.

AND THEN LASTLY I THINK IN TERMS OF PROCESS THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE THE RENAMING OF A PUBLIC PROPERTY COME FROM COUNCIL. SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO RENAME A PARK OR A BUILDING THAT, THAT SHOULD COME FROM COUNCIL, NOT JUST AN APPLICANT SHOWING UP AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND STARTING THE WHOLE PROCESS GOING THROUGH YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION LEVEL AND THEN EVENTUALLY GETTING TO COUNCIL.

BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY IT DOES HAVE TO GET TO 4/5 VOTE, BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THAT AREA SHOULD KNOW THEIR DISTRICT.

AND IF A NAME IS APPROPRIATE, BEFORE INITIATING A LOT OF WORK ON STAFF AND AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.

SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE HAD WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE SUBMIT 100 DIFFERENT NAMES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN AND STRUCTURED, IT WOULD JUST GENERATE TONS OF WORK WHERE SOME OF THOSE COULD BE ELIMINATED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. WOULD YOU PROPOSE MAY I ASK A QUESTION? CLARIFYING QUESTION. SURE. WOULD YOU PROPOSE LIKE AN APPLICATION BE SPONSORED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER? WE COULD DO THAT. I MEAN, SO THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER COULD HAVE SOME INPUT.

WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE FROM THAT DISTRICT NECESSARILY, BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD HAVE ONE COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT WOULD BE.

YES, SOME MORE SUPPORT BEFORE WE INITIATE A LOT OF WORK.

THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO END UP WITH A. SENTIMENT.

YEAH, THAT RENAMING IS APPROPRIATE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S FOR YOUR MAJOR FACILITIES, NOT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES. CORRECT. I WOULD SAY ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM. OKAY. RIGHT. SO IF YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY, I THINK IT SHOULD COME FROM THE COUNCIL.

NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ANY AND EVERY PERSON. AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING AS SMALL AS, LET'S JUST SAY, NAMING A PARK BENCH IN MEMORY OF SOMEONE, THAT WOULD BE AN EASY, YOU KNOW EASY THING TO AGREE TO.

THAT'S OUTSIDE THIS PROCESS. CORRECT? CORRECT. WE HAVE A SEPARATE COMMEMORATIVE DONATION PROGRAM THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. SO BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S SOMETHING SMALL, IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY SIMPLE TO GET THE COUNCILMAN TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

BUT IF IT'S A LARGER FACILITY, LIKE YOU KNOW, A PARK OR THE PARK BUILDINGS OR, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE.

RIGHT. I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD HAVE INPUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS. OKAY.

I DON'T THINK THE SMALL STUFF REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THE BENCHES LIKE THE. NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY.

YEAH. I MEAN, THEY'RE. WELL, I MEAN, WHATEVER THE SMALLEST. FAMILY MEMBERS OR WHATEVER. YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE GET TO VOTE ON EVERY SMALL THING. RIGHT. WELL, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK AS CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED, THERE'S NO APPLICATION PROCESS FOR MAJOR FACILITIES THAT'S EXCLUSIVELY AT THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. SO YOU WOULD BE REFERRING TO REALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES THAT WOULD REQUIRE PERHAPS A SPONSOR OR SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION.

YEAH. IS THAT IT? YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CASTLE BROUGHT UP.

WHAT I DON'T REALLY SEE LAID OUT. MAYBE I JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU SAID IT AND I JUST DIDN'T QUITE GET IT IS A COUNCIL LED PROCESS WHERE LITERALLY IT WOULD BE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL, WHICH MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, I WAS ABLE TO GET THE CONTINUATION HIGH SCHOOL NAMED AFTER PAT DREIZLER WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE. AND IT'S I HAVE ISSUES, A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE WITH THE WAITING ONE YEAR AFTER SOMEONE'S DEATH BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS MEANINGFUL.

I'M NOT SURE. I WASN'T ABLE TO LOOK IT UP AND FIGURE OUT WHEN FRANK HOPKINS DIED FOR HOPKINS WILDERNESS PARK.

BUT SULLINGER WAS STILL ALIVE WHEN SULLINGER PARK WAS WAS NAMED.

SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT'S A COUNCIL LED PROCESS.

IF YOU WANT TO NAME IT AFTER A PERSON THAT'S ALIVE, BUT IT'S FAR MORE MEANINGFUL TO THE FAMILIES.

I CAN TELL YOU, THE DREIZLER FAMILY REALLY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR PAT WHILE SHE WAS STILL WITH US,

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SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE.

AND AGAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF IT'S A COUNCIL LED A MOTION FROM COUNCIL WANTS TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER SOMEONE WHO'S ALIVE WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT.

AND FOR LIKE THE COUNCIL SIGN OFF IDEA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES TO LIKE THE PARK STRUCTURE SIDE OF IT, BUT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES AND MAJOR FACILITIES, I THINK IT DEFINITELY IS A BIT OF A GATEKEEPER.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, ONE PERSON SUBMITTING 50 APPLICATIONS SAYING, HEY, HOW ABOUT THIS ONE AND THIS ONE AND THIS ONE AND JUST GOING CRAZY ON IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

COUNCILMEMBER OBAGI WANTED TO GO FIRST. YOU WANNA GO FIRST? GO AHEAD. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE MAYOR. YEAH, BUT PAIGE IS IN BETWEEN YOU TWO.

THAT'S FINE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, ON THE SUBJECT OF DEATH I WAS LOOKING AT. I'M LOOKING AT B, AND I WONDER IF A 4/5 VOTE OVERRIDES THE NEED FOR THE PERSON TO BE DEAD.

I DO RECALL IN OUR DISCUSSION SPECIFICALLY BRINGING UP MY REFERRAL ABOUT THE WEBB TEEN CENTER.

AND YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THAT BE AFFECTED IF YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR THE PERSON TO BE DEAD, SO DEAD.

SO MAYBE FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT MISS CHUNG, MAYBE YOU COULD CLARIFY HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THE STATUTE AS WE'VE WRITTEN IT POLICY AS WE'VE WRITTEN IT? RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THE POLICY ITSELF DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU NAMING A FACILITY AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL ALIVE OR PASSED.

BUT THE CAVEAT IS IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS PASSED AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO NAME A FACILITY AFTER THAT INDIVIDUAL, WE DO HAVE A ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD. IN LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, KIND OF THE, WHAT THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT ONE YEAR PERIOD WAS THE AVERAGE WAITING TIME.

SOME HAD LONGER. AND IT WAS TO KIND OF AVOID THE EMOTIONAL REACTION TO THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE WERE TO NAME A FACILITY AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S PASSED WE ALLOW FOR THAT WAITING PERIOD TO GO THROUGH. HOWEVER, THERE IS A 4/5 EXCEPTION VOTE IF CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO WAIVE THAT.

SO B ONLY APPLIES WHEN THE PERSON HAS PASSED.

CORRECT. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT AT ALL? DO PEOPLE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE PERSON.

YEAH. CROSS MY MIND. OKAY. WE COULD CLARIFY THAT.

RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. I SWITCHED.

OKAY. HE'S CLEANUP. HE GAVE UP HIS SPOT. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD.

SO THAT'S CLEANED UP. THE TERM YOU SAID TYPICALLY FOR CORPORATE FOR MAJOR FACILITIES FOR CORPORATE NAMING WAS 5 TO 20 YEARS. AND COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE YOU WOULD LIKE SEASIDE LAGOON EXCLUDED.

I WILL SAY MAYBE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE THAT SPECIFIC ONE EXCLUDED BECAUSE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF INVESTING IN THAT SPACE AT THIS POINT, WE'VE REALIZED SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT WERE GRANTED TO US.

IF BY NAMING THE LAGOON SOMETHING, WE'RE ABLE TO GET MORE FUNDS TO FINISH A PROJECT THAT WE ENVISION.

I MEAN, I'M JUST POSING THAT QUESTION AS A DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. I MEAN, I THINK IN TERMS OF SORT OF CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, LET'S CALL IT TWO REDONDO BEACH SEASIDE LAGOON, JUST LIKE THE HISTORIC LIBRARY HAS A SIGNIFICANT PLACE IN OUR LOCAL HISTORY.

AND JUST LIKE THE HISTORIC LIBRARY, EVERYONE KNOWS IT AS SUCH.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR SEASIDE LAGOON, IT'S KNOWN AS THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, YES, AS A TERM, PROBABLY SEASIDE LAGOON IS A VERY GENERIC TERM, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT IN THE WATERFRONT.

THAT'S WHY. WHAT IF IT WAS THAT? AND AGAIN, DISCUSSION, WHAT IF IT WAS.

MAESTRO. WHATEVER. ANNENBERG SEASIDE LAGOON. RIGHT.

LIKE IT WOULD IT BE AGREEABLE TO YOU WITH THAT IN MIND IF IT ALWAYS INCLUDED SEASIDE LAGOON WITH A NAME

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YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSIONAIRE AGREEMENT WITH MADE BY MEG.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THE MADE BY MEG HISTORIC LIBRARY CATERING HALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, BUT THAT IS A MOUTHFUL. SO YEAH, AND I GUESS I'M, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T EXCLUDE OURSELVES FROM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY A BIG INVESTMENT WITH A SMALL CONCESSION.

RIGHT, RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT NAMING AN AMENITY WITHIN IT? WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO THAT? SURE, SURE. YEAH. LIKE THE LUAU SHELTER, YOU KNOW.

YEAH. THE LUAU SHELTER? YEAH. I JUST WONDER, I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO GO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT WITH THE KIND OF MONEY THAT'S NEEDED IN A SPACE LIKE THAT.

20 MILLION. IT'S AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS LIKE BIG DONORS AREN'T GOING TO NAME, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO WANT LIKE, I THINK OF THE ANNENBERG BEACH HOUSE IN SANTA MONICA.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S HUGE. TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

IT'S THE WHOLE THING. SO I KIND OF LEAN TOWARDS INCLUDING SEASIDE LAGOON IN A NAME WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT ULTIMATELY.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY.

SO THAT'S IF IT'S PHILANTHROPIC, RIGHT? YES. YES.

NOT IF THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT. INDEED. YES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ACCOMMODATING US.

THANK YOU, JANE, FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND SHARING ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.

AND YOU'VE MENTIONED OTHER STAFF WHO PARTICIPATED AS WELL.

THERE'S A LOT IN HERE. IT'S CROSSED MY MIND. MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND THIS AS A REFERRAL TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION AFTER WE PASSED THROUGH IT TONIGHT.

PACKAGE IT UP TOGETHER WITH WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE.

GIVE THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A DEEP DIVE AND KIND OF REALLY FLESH THROUGH THIS AND COME BACK TO US WITH THEIR THOUGHTS AND RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WE'LL CONSIDER. WE'RE FREE TO FOLLOW OR NOT.

BUT THAT COULD BE HELPFUL IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION IS ENVISIONED TO HAVE A ROLE IN THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT AND WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.

I WILL SAY I SUPPORT THAT. I SUPPORT YOU KNOW, PULSING OUR COMMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S POTENTIALLY WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION TO WEIGH IN ON STUFF LIKE THIS.

AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE HISTORIC PORTION OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION, AND THEY ARE NAMED IN THIS PROCESS.

SO IT WOULD BE TO ME, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET THEIR INPUT ON IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? I FULLY AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC WAS JUST EXPLAINING.

WE HAVE $20 MILLION TO FUNDRAISE TO COMPLETE PHASE TWO OF SEASIDE LAGOON AND UNLESS YOU WANT SURF CITY PRIVATE INVESTMENT AFFLUENT PRIVATE INVESTMENT THERE THAT LOCKS IN ENTRANCE AT $100 A PERSON.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET MORE FUNDRAISING FROM PHILANTHROPIC DONORS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OR THE STATE.

OR, AND NOW, I GUESS I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION, MAYOR, YOU SAID NOT A CORPORATE OR A BUSINESS.

COULD IT UNDER OUR POLICY, AS YOU'VE UNDERSTOOD IT, COULDN'T A NIKE COME AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT AFTER DARK RUN. EVERY YEAR THERE IN REDONDO BEACH AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT THE NIKE SEASIDE LAGOON.

WE'LL PAY $20 MILLION TO KEEP THAT NAME FOR 20 MILLION YEARS, FOR 20 YEARS, 20 MILLION YEARS, FOR 20 YEARS. DOES THIS PRECLUDE US BECAUSE IT'S NOT PHILANTHROPIC, IT'S CORPORATE.

DOES THIS PRECLUDE US FROM DOING THAT OR NOT US, BUT A COUNCIL FROM DOING THAT.

JUST LET ME POSE. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT I SAID.

NIKE COULD STILL BE PHILANTHROPIC, BUT IF THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN RUNNING IT.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY, COOL. SO, YES, I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO ALL GENEROUS PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GOING TO MAR THE REPUTATION OF THE CITY WHO WANT TO DONATE AND SEE THIS FACILITY OR ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED AND INVESTED IN FOR A LITTLE EGO BOOST.

ONE COMMENT MAYOR ALONG THAT THAT POINT IN THE MAJOR FACILITIES PROCESS THAT I SEE LAID OUT IN THE DRAFT HERE,

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YEAH, I THINK MY POINT IS MORE, YOU KNOW, AVIATION PARKS A CONCESSION RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE, OR A LICENSE AGREEMENT AND THEY REPLACED THE TURF.

IT WAS YEAH, WE HAVE A CONCESSIONAIRE AGREEMENT WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY FOR CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME IN EXCHANGE FOR PAYING FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW FACILITY.

RIGHT. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT WITH THE TURF, I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE NAMED WHATEVER COMPANY HOLDS THAT CONCESSION.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK BENEFITS. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S THE NEGOTIATION.

YEAH. I THINK WHAT YOU WANT TO SORT OF BUILD ON THIS SCENARIO IS YOU'D WANT A FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSAL, OR IN THIS CASE, THE SPONSORSHIP OR DONATION THAT'D BE SEPARATE THAN AN APPLICATION FOR A SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITY THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR CORPORATION, NIKE OR ANNENBERG OR SOMEBODY COMING IN AND SAYING, WE REALLY WANT TO HELP YOU INVEST.

WE HAVE ONE IN THERE FOR A MAJOR FACILITY. SO WE MAY YEAH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT SOME CAVEAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OR SOMETHING. IF THE COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

YES. I AM, DO WE ALSO NEED TO INCLUDE BECAUSE A TERM OF 20 YEARS CAN BE SHORT FOR AN INVESTMENT LIKE THE NUMBER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO CAN WE ADD LANGUAGE OR AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT AS WELL? I MEAN IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE APPROVED BY US. YEAH.

THAT'S THE I THINK YOU JUST WANT TO INDICATE THAT SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES COUNCIL BY 4/5 VOTE COULD, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE ARRANGEMENTS OR NAMES. OKAY YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, THAT GIVES YOU SOME FUTURE DISCRETION IN THOSE EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY. HOLD IT. ULTIMATELY. YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY HIS POINT ULTIMATELY ON THE 4/5 VOTE.

COUNCIL ANY COUNCIL COULD ADJUST ANY OF THESE.

AND THEY COULD AMEND THIS POLICY IN THE FUTURE ANYWAY.

THAT'S ALL. SO YEAH, I MEAN, YOU COULD ALWAYS AMEND THE POLICY TO CONSIDER WHATEVER PROPOSALS BEING PROPOSED AT THE TIME. YEAH.

YEAH. YOU PROBABLY COULD AMEND THE POLICY WITH THREE VOTES.

RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. SO IS THAT DOES THAT SEEM LIKE WE'RE OUR CONSENSUS IS AROUND THOSE TWO THINGS THREE THINGS.

MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECEASED.

MAKING GIVING COUNCIL MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH A 4/5 VOTE TO AIM ANY FACILITY.

AND FOR ANY TERM, BUT 5 TO 20 IS FINE HERE. AND TO SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION FOR THEIR FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GET IT AGAIN.

AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER THEY HAD THE REMOVING NAMES FOR CORPORATE NAMES FOR 4/5 VOTE.

AND I WAS JUST SAYING REMOVING ANY NAME BY 4/5 VOTE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ANY NAME THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND THEN I ALSO HEARD THE CONCEPT OF MAYBE A SPONSORSHIP FOR THE APPLICATIONS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES, AS A CAVEAT TO THE APPLICATION. SURE. I LIKE THE SPONSORSHIP BECAUSE THEN IT PRECLUDES SOMEBODY FROM DOING SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL'S NEVER GOING TO APPROVE.

SO AND GENERATING A LOT OF WORK BEFORE IT WOULD, ULTIMATELY.

PAYING THEM, PAYING MONEY AND THEN BEING. RIGHT.

AND TO BE CLEAR, DO WE WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE A SPONSORSHIP FROM COUNCIL BRINGING THE REFERRAL? BECAUSE IN ONE CONCEPT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WILLING TO PAY AN APPLICATION FEE.

MAYBE THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SAYS, YEAH, I'M WILLING TO PUT MY NAME TO YOUR APPLICATION, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO BRING IT AS A REFERRAL OF MINE. YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO BRING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND PAY THE FEE.

CONCEPTUALLY, I THINK WE COULD PUT ON THE FORM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL COUNCIL MEMBER CONCURRENCE OR.

OR A COUNCIL MEMBER, SOMETHING I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE MORE NEEDED FOR THE MAJOR FACILITIES AND NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES.

BUT FOR LIKE A PARK STRUCTURE, I DON'T KNOW IF.

A WHAT? A PARK STRUCTURE THAT WAS THE THERE'S THREE THREE DEFINITIONS MAJOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARK, MAYBE THE PARK STRUCTURES YOU DON'T NEED THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO SIGN ON.

IF SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO NAME THIS JUNGLE GYM. IT WOULDN'T BE A JUNGLE GYM.

IT WOULD BE LIKE A BENCH, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO BENCHES ARE SEPARATE THAT'S ALL. I THINK IT'D BE LIKE A.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE THREE LEVELS HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

THERE'S STUFF THAT WE DO TODAY LIKE BENCHES, TREES, THERE'S THE MEDIUM LEVEL.

AND THEN THERE'S THE BIG. PART OF THIS AT ALL. I THOUGHT. I DIDN'T THINK THE BENCHES WERE PART OF THIS AT ALL. NO THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR HERE. WE DO

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YEAH. MINOR STRUCTURES WITHIN THE PARK, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SHADE STRUCTURES, FENCES OR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

I MEAN, THAT SORT OF EXPLAINS. YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS.

FENCES IS AN INTERESTING THING TO NAME. YEAH. JUST TAKE THE BENCHES ARE TOO CONFUSING. BUT NAMING A PLAYGROUND I THINK WOULD NEED SUPPORT FROM A COUNCIL.

YEAH, PLAYGROUND WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITY. I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN GETTING SPONSOR.

YEAH, UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK THAT HELPS OUR TIME THAT THE ONLY THING WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, CLARIFYING IS JUST BECAUSE ONE OF YOU CHOOSES TO SPONSOR AN APPLICATION DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A CITY COUNCIL DRIVEN ACTION, WHEREBY WE'RE SIMPLY PROCESSING INTERNALLY AS A STAFF INITIATIVE VERSUS AN APPLICATION FEE.

RIGHT. AND HOW DOES THE COUNCIL LOOK AT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. YEAH, IT WOULD STILL GO, I THINK, THROUGH PUBLIC AMENITIES.

NO, NO, THIS POLICY WE HAVE THIS POLICY GO TO PUBLIC AMENITIES.

OH, SURE. YEAH. I THINK IT WOULD HELP. YEAH. SO SO SO ARE WE CLEAR ON WHAT REVISIONS WE'RE COALESCING AROUND? I THINK SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. YEAH. AND IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE SORRY.

IT'S GOING TO MOTION TO HAVE THOSE REVISIONS PERFORMED AND SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

SECOND. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THESE FEES ON PAGE 89 AND JUST I'M NOT REALLY TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THESE FEES YET, BECAUSE LOOK AT THE SWIMMING FACILITY.

WE ONLY HAVE WE HAVE NO SWIMMING FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.

WE MAY HAVE WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY ONE SWIMMING FACILITY, THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

AND ON THE HIGH END OF THAT 48,000, I DON'T THINK I'D WANT TO GIVE NAMING TO THE SWIMMING TO THE POND ASPECT OF THE SEASIDE LAGOON FOR $48,000. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAYBE STRIKE THAT ONE OFF.

BUT YEAH, I THINK WE'D WANT TO ESTABLISH ALL THESE THROUGH THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE. SO MAYBE WE JUST TREAT THIS AS KIND OF A CONVERSATION STARTER THAT WOULD BE MEMORIALIZED THROUGH A FUTURE FEE ACTION. OKAY YEAH. MAYBE WE DON'T ACTUALLY PUT THE FEES THERE. OVER $1,000 FOR. TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE MOTION.

YES. SO MOVE. SO SO AMENDED. THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION FIRST.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL.

OKAY. I HAVE ONE CARD SO FAR. RON MAROKO.

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. ALL FOR IT.

AYE. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL RON MAROKO DISTRICT THREE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION.

JUST A REMINDER, AFTER MY COMMENTS, I'M STILL ONE OF SEVEN PEOPLE ON THAT COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SOME STRONG VIEWS ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER, THOUGH I DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE IN FUNDRAISING FROM UCLA, AND CORPORATE NAMING WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, SO I'M HAPPY TO LEND SOME ADDITIONAL MATTERS.

THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND, AND I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN BEHRENDT ORIGINALLY WAS WHO'S ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMMUNICATING THAT TO US BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRANSPARENCY ON THAT.

I WOULD HAVE LIKED IT WHEN WE DID THE BILL BRAND PARK TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.

ALSO, YOU HAD INDICATED IN THE REPORT THAT YOU SURVEYED MULTIPLE CITIES.

I'M STILL NOT CLEAR WHAT CITIES YOU SURVEYED, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE THING TO HAVE AS PART OF IT.

WHAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU IS, I THINK WHAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER WHAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED AS HAVING A PARK NAME? THERE IS ON AUGUST 5TH, 2025, WHICH IS OVER A YEAR AGO, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OBAGI, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WALLER TO NAME THE SOUTH SIDE OF EATON PARK ON HARRIMAN LANE IN HONOR OF JOE DAWIDZIAK.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING FORWARD ON THAT.

ON THE NEXT PAGE, YOU WILL SEE THERE'S A DISCUSSION ON JULY 9TH, 2025 TO THAT CAME ABOUT OF AGENDIZING, AN ITEM IN JUNE TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL TO NAME A PARK IN HONOR OF JOE DAWIDZIAK.

SO HE'S GONE THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS. HE'S COME THROUGH PUBLIC AMENITIES ALREADY, AND HE'S BEEN REFERRED BY COUNCIL.

I STILL AM NOT CLEAR BASED ON ALL THE TICK MARKS THAT WERE GOING ON, THAT WHY YOU GUYS HAVEN'T COME UP AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO NAME THAT PARK. IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS JOE DAWIDZIAK PARK IN HIS MEMORY.

I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS A POLICY THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.

IN 21ST CENTURY, YOU ONLY HAD TWO PARKS THAT WERE NAMED.

ONE OF THEM, MAYOR LIGHT FIRST PROPOSED THE PROPONENT.

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I THINK TO CLARIFY YOUR POINT, THE PLACE LIKE IN DOMINGUEZ PARK, WE HAVE THE CHUCK RAMSEY FIELD, WE HAVE THE BILL DICKEY BATTING CAGES. THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY NAME.

THE 4/5 VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. OKAY. I WAS ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION.

THE CHARTER SAYS YOU CAN DO THE 4/5. ORDINANCE, SAY YOU CAN DO 4/5.

THIS IS A POLICY AND I THINK COUNCILMAN OBAGI MENTIONED IT.

IT'S A MAJORITY. YOU CAN PICK ANY TIME YOU WANT TO, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT SITS.

SO I HOPE YOU MAKE THE JOE DAWIDZIAK PARK TONIGHT AS PART OF YOUR VOTE TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE AND NO ECOMMENTS AS WELL.

OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? OKAY, I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, NOW GOING TO ITEM N.2.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON POTENTIALLY POTENTIAL SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR ESSENTIALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO WITH THAT I THINK DIANE YOU'RE TAKING THE BALL HERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD AND GOOD EVENING. OH MY THING CAME OFF.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL DIANE STRICKFADEN HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

THIS ITEM WILL OUTLINE A BIANNUAL PROCESS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GOES THROUGH EVERY TWO YEARS TO CONSIDER SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. THIS IS NOT OKAY. IN 2005, THE CITY COUNCIL CREATED A PROCESS FOR THE REVIEW OF SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS BY REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION.

IN ADDITION, THE CITY CHARTER PROVIDES THAT IF A SALARY IS ADJUSTED, THAT CHANGE MUST BE COMPLETED 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE NOMINATION PERIOD FOR AN UPCOMING ELECTION THROUGH ADOPTION OF A CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE.

IT THEN WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE AT THE BEGINNING OF A FORTHCOMING TERM IN APRIL OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THE NOMINATION PERIOD FOR THE MARCH 2027 ELECTION OPENS ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2026, AND THEREFORE, ANY SALARY CHANGES WOULD NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL 30 DAYS PRIOR BY OCTOBER 6, 2026, AS CHANGES ARE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE, WHICH REQUIRE A FIRST AND SECOND READING. STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION REGARDING BRINGING AN ORDINANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 15TH COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK FOR FIRST READING AND TO MAKE ANY DESIRED ADJUSTMENTS. THIS REVIEW IS TYPICALLY CONDUCTED EVERY OTHER YEAR BASED ON WHAT POSITIONS ARE COMING UP FOR ELECTION IN THE FOLLOWING MARCH.

FOR THIS CYCLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SALARIES FOR THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY TREASURER AND THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL POSITIONS, WHICH REVIEWS WERE LAST PERFORMED IN 2022. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE TONIGHT WILL DETERMINE THE SALARY FOR EACH POSITION FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS UNTIL COMPLETION OF THAT UPCOMING TERM OF OFFICE.

SO STARTING WITH THE CITY CLERK POSITION, THE CITY CLERK'S SALARY WAS LAST ADJUSTED IN 2022 WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF APRIL 1ST, 2023 AT 2% PER YEAR OVER FOUR YEARS. ON APRIL 1ST, 2026, IT CHANGED AGAIN AND NOW STANDS AT $11,540 PER MONTH, WHERE IT WILL REMAIN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS UNLESS FURTHER ADJUSTED DURING THIS CYCLE.

THE CITY CLERK IS A FULL TIME DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION AND RECEIVES THE SAME BENEFITS AS THE MANAGEMENT, CONFIDENTIAL, EXECUTIVE AND MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL GROUP.

FOR THE CITY TREASURER, IN 2014, THE CITY TREASURER SALARY WAS SET AT $2,083 PER MONTH IN CONJUNCTION WITH A REDUCTION FROM FULL TIME TO PART TIME DUTIES VIA A BALLOT MEASURE. AND WHILE REVIEWS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED EVERY FOUR YEARS SINCE THEN, THE SALARY HAS REMAINED THE SAME. THE TREASURER IS ALSO CONSIDERED A DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION AND RECEIVES THE SAME BENEFITS AS THE MANAGEMENT AND CONFIDENTIAL GROUP.

REGARDING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. IN 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO ADJUST THE SALARIES OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FROM $927 PER MONTH TO $1669 PER MONTH, WHICH WAS THE FIRST ADJUSTMENT ADJUSTMENT IN 16 YEARS.

THIS WAS DONE TO BRING THEM UP TO DATE WITH THE MINIMUM WAGE AT THE TIME AND ADVANCE IN ADVANCE OF SENATE BILL 329, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED IN 2023. INTERESTINGLY, SENATE BILL 329 AMENDED THE GOVERNMENT CODE EFFECTIVE IN 2024.

REGARDING HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE CAN BE APPLIED TO COUNCIL POSITIONS, AS THE LAW HADN'T BEEN CHANGED PREVIOUSLY SINCE 1984 AND HADN'T KEPT UP WITH INFLATION.

THE LEGISLATURE SPECIFICALLY STATED THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE A METHOD TO MAKE CITY COUNCILS MORE DIVERSE BY ALLOWING COUNCILS TO ADJUST THEIR COMPENSATION FOR INFLATION.

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AS COUNCIL SALARIES WERE LAST INCREASED IN APRIL 2025 FOR DISTRICTS ONE, TWO AND FOUR THE MAXIMUM INCREASE THAT COULD BE APPLIED WOULD BE 10%, USING THE 5% PER YEAR FORMULA, OR AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO INFLATION SINCE JANUARY 2024.

THIS AMOUNT WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS THAN 10%, AS THE CHANGE HAS AVERAGED ABOUT 2.5% TO 3% EACH YEAR FOR THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE JANUARY 2024. AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO RESEARCH ADDING A COMMUNICATION STIPEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL PAY AND BENEFITS PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT DUE TO THE REQUIREMENTS SURROUNDING MAKING CHANGES TO SALARIES, THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED JUST INCREASING THE SALARY BY AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT VERSUS ADDING A STIPEND.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO RECEIVED 12% OF SALARY AND DEFERRED COMPENSATION, AND THE SAME BENEFITS AS THE MANAGEMENT AND CONFIDENTIAL GROUP.

AT THEIR MEETINGS ON AUGUST 13TH AND 27TH. THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO ADJUST THE CITY CLERK'S SALARY IN THE SAME AMOUNTS THAT CITY STAFF RECEIVES. THE COMMISSION DID NOT RECOMMEND CHANGES TO THE CITY TREASURER OR CITY COUNCIL POSITIONS.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE COMMISSION WAS PROVIDED THE SAME SALARY SURVEY DATA AS IS PRESENTED IN THE REPORT TONIGHT, AND THOSE CITIES USED IN THE SURVEYS WERE SELECTED AS THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY NEGOTIATED WITH CITY BARGAINING UNITS.

BUT NOT ALL CITIES ARE NECESSARILY APPLICABLE IN THIS INSTANCE, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SITUATION.

WITH THAT, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL REVIEW THIS INFORMATION AND DIRECT STAFF REGARDING ANY PROPOSED SALARY CHANGES THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK NEXT WEEK AS AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD REPORT. I WE DID GET A LETTER FROM THE CITY CLERK VOICING HER SUPPORT FOR A SALARY INCREASE. EUGENE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU.

DO YOU MIND OPINING? MAYBE WE COULD WAIT UNTIL AFTER COUNCIL.

I'M SORRY. NO. YEAH. IT'S GOOD. YEAH. COME ON UP.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CITY STAFF EUGENE SOLOMAN REDONDO BEACH CITY TREASURER.

I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, ABOUT.

I'LL ASK YOU UP. THANK YOU. ABOUT THE MEETINGS FOR THE BUDGET AND FINANCE THAT THEY HAD.

AND THEN ABOUT THE SALARY ITSELF. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR OPINION ON ADJUSTING THE SALARY FOR THE TREASURER.

RIGHT NOW, WE CAN BRING YOU UP AFTERWARDS FOR THE BROADER SUBJECT AFTER THE COUNCIL SPEAKS.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE NOMINAL VALUE FROM 2014, WHEN IT WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED AND THE ANALYSIS THAT LED TO THAT SALARY IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CURRENT PURCHASING POWER OF THOSE FUNDS AND THAT, LIKE YOU HAVE WITH THE CITY CLERK OR SOME OF THE OTHER ROLES WITHIN THE CITY, SOME LEVEL OF COST OF LIVING OR ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE PRUDENT OR REASONABLE IN THAT SITUATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU UP FOR YOUR OPINION ON THE OTHER STUFF LATER.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL'S KIND OF REVIEWING THEIR OWN SALARY.

I KNOW IT AFFECTS FUTURE COUNCILS, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS POLITICALLY TOUGH POSITION TO TAKE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, WITH THE WE'RE NOT IN A BUDGET THAT'S OVERFLOWING WITH MONEY, WE'RE NOT IN DEFICIT THIS YEAR THE WAY WE WERE LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S A TIGHT BUDGET. THAT SAID, IT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACTS, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY THAT ADDS UP.

SO I AM OPEN TO THE COUNCIL'S POSITION. I WILL TELL YOU, I'M NOT IN THIS FOR THE MONEY.

AND I WILL SAY I SPEND MORE THAN I THAN I MAKE IN THIS JOB.

SO THIS WAS NEVER ONE WHERE I EXPECTED TO BREAK EVEN OR EXPECTED TO GET PAID FOR ALL THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THAT SAID, I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I'M A RETIREE LIVING OFF MY SAVINGS FOR YEARS AND MAYBE WE COULD ATTRACT SOME OTHER PEOPLE IF IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE BUDGET NEUTRAL IN THE LONG RUN. SO I'M OPEN TO THE COUNCIL'S INPUT ON THIS.

I'M, I JUST GO INTO THIS SKEPTICAL. I DON'T SERVE FOR THE MONEY I SERVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I HAVE A PASSION FOR THIS CITY.

SO WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR HAND UP.

OH, THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, DIANE STRICKFADEN OUR DIRECTOR.

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JUST TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS QUICKLY, IF I COULD. MAYOR. ABSOLUTELY. THE SO JUST TO START WITH THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION A RECOMMENDATION, I REJECT IT. AND THE REASON WHY IS FOR THOSE OF US WHO WATCHED THE HEARING, IT'S REALLY BASED ON AN INACCURATE PREMISE THAT THE CITY TREASURER'S OFFICE ISN'T WORKING HARD OR NOT PROVIDING VALUE, OR THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR AREN'T HERE, YOU KNOW, WORKING HARD. AND THERE WAS SOME SPILLOVER EARLIER ABOUT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I JUST CAN'T ADOPT AND GET ALONG WITH THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO SET IT ASIDE. AS YOU POINTED OUT, MAYOR, THERE'S KIND OF THREE ITEMS. THERE'S THE CITY CLERK, CITY TREASURER, COUNCIL, AND MAYOR.

FOR THE CITY CLERK AND TREASURER I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM CERTAINLY THE CITY MANAGER WHO'S ENTRUSTED AND RESPONSIBLE FOR BUDGETING AND A LOT OF OTHER BALANCING. AND WE GOT THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS ET CETERA.

SO I'LL KIND OF STEP ASIDE FROM THAT FOR AT LEAST A MOMENT.

AND THEN REGARDING THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

NOBODY IS IN THIS JOB BECAUSE OF THE PAY. IT'S REALLY ABOUT SERVICE.

AND I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR COMPENSATION HAS NOT BEEN ADJUSTED FOR 4 YEARS.

AND LIKE, I GET IT. AND YES, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT MINIMUM WAGE OR CLOSE TO IT.

OR IF YOU'RE WORKING AS MUCH AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND THE MAYOR ARE, YOU'RE PROBABLY UNDER MINIMUM WAGE WHEN YOU DO THE MATH.

THANKS ALSO FOR INCLUDING IN THE PRESENTATION THIS SB 329 ITEM AND YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN A VERY STRONG PUSH AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL IN RECENT YEARS TO INCREASE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMPENSATION, AND THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND THE NAACP CALIFORNIA CHAPTER FOR THE REASONS THAT I THINK WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, JUST TO TRY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, LOW INCOME RESIDENTS, SINGLE PARENTS, YOUNG PEOPLE AND OTHERS ENCOURAGE THEM TO STEP FORWARD AND TAKE ON THIS WORK.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DO THAT HERE. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THE POINT THAT WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI AND THE REFERRAL AND IN THE PRESENTATION KIND OF ABOUT THE INCREASING COST OF OUT OF POCKET RESIDENT COMMUNICATIONS, MAILCHIMP, CONSTANT CONTACT, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY GONE UP A LOT AND I'M HEARING AND EXPERIENCING MORE AND MORE THE NEED FOR THAT COMMUNICATION. EMAIL BLAST COMMUNITY EVENTS. GETTING THAT OUT THERE.

I FOUND IT TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE FOR RESIDENT OUTREACH.

AND I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT. SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT IN SOME FORM OF REIMBURSEMENT AND ADJUSTMENT. AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT AMOUNT IS $100 A MONTH OR A COUPLE OR A FEW HUNDRED A MONTH.

YOU KNOW SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE BEST ADMINISTRATIVELY WOULD BE TO ROLL THAT INTO KIND OF THE CURRENT COUNCIL AND MAYOR PAY RATHER THAN DOING LIKE A STANDALONE REIMBURSEMENT.

MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY? THERE ARE CERTAIN COMMUNICATIONS THAT SHOULD BE PART OF A STIPEND OR NOT.

AND IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF LIKE AN EASIER LIFT TO IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, JUST PUT IT INTO THE CURRENT MONTHLY PAY.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. ONE THING I DID ALSO COME ACROSS, IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, I THINK WE HAVE TO AT LEAST MAKE SOME FINDINGS OF SOME TYPE.

AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT AND DIRECTOR STRICKFADEN.

AND IF WE ARE, I DID KIND OF JUST WRITE SOMETHING OUT FOR CONSIDERATION KIND OF A FIRST TIME THROUGH IF I COULD JUST READ THAT QUICKLY, MAYOR. SURE. ALL RIGHT. SO, AND I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY HASN'T HEARD THIS, SO I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE FLY SPOT HERE.

THE REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL HEREBY FINDS THAT COUNCIL AND MAYORAL SERVICE OFTENTIMES REQUIRES COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR TO MAINTAIN DIRECT CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION WITH CONSTITUENTS, INCLUDING NEWSLETTERS, DIGITAL OUTREACH TOOLS AND OTHER MEANS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT,

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RATHER THAN ESTABLISHING A SEPARATE STIPEND OR REIMBURSEMENT MECHANISM FOR SUCH COSTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW, THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS IT MORE TRANSPARENT AND WARRANTED TO REFLECT THESE COSTS OF SERVICE, WITH AN OVERALL COMPENSATION CONSISTENT WITH ENSURING THAT COMPENSATION REASONABLY REFLECTS THE FULL SCOPE OF DUTIES AND OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE OFFICE. SO THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON IT, AND THANKS FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCIL. WELL, BEFORE WE GO ON, DID YOU WANT TO OPINE ON THE QUESTION HE POSED? HAPPY TO. A COUPLE OF JUST OVERARCHING THOUGHTS.

SB 329 CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THAT STATUTE, THE PURPOSE OF IT, THE PREMISE OF IT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND IT'S, AND IT IS ON POINT.

YOU KNOW, MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED I'M NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY.

IT COST YOU TIME AND MONEY. I THINK THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT SB 329 IS TRYING TO ENSURE THAT IT DOESN'T OCCUR FOR OTHER PROSPECTIVE FOLKS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEDICATE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU ALL DO AND, AND AT LEAST NOT WALK AWAY WITH WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER TO BE MINIMUM WAGE.

AND I DO THINK THAT WAS THE SPIRIT OF THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN IN 2022, WAS REALLY TO TRY TO INDEX THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S AVERAGE GENERAL TIME TO A BIT OF A MINIMUM WAGE STANDARD, WHICH I BELIEVE AT THE TIME WAS AROUND $15 AN HOUR.

IT HAS SINCE GONE UP TO $16.90. I THINK ANOTHER $1.90 AN HOUR SINCE THAT TIME.

SO THAT IN ITSELF IS ALMOST A 13% ADJUSTMENT FROM YOUR LAST CONSIDERATION.

SO I THINK THAT'S A POINT TO ACKNOWLEDGE. I CAN TESTIFY TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SPENDING AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME IN YOUR ROLE AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CONTRARY TO PERHAPS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND SHARED AT THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION MEETING.

YOU ALL WORK VERY, VERY HARD. INCREDIBLY HARD, IN MANY CASES FAR MORE FAR MORE HOURS THAN THAN ANY OF YOUR PREDECESSORS.

WHICH IS A CHOICE, A PERSONAL CHOICE. I KNOW NOT ONE THAT NECESSARILY IS OBLIGATED TO OCCUR, BUT IT'S WORTH ACKNOWLEDGING. SO I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURRED IN 2022, AND I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME HAD IT RIGHT, IS WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT 16 YEARS FOR THE NEXT ADJUSTMENT.

I THINK THAT'S THE MISTAKE THAT OCCURRED PRIOR TO THAT.

AND THEN SUDDENLY THAT ADJUSTMENT LOOKS VERY DRASTIC.

NOW WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE PUBLIC. OH, WE'VE WE'VE WAITED SO LONG.

NOW WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR COMPENSATION BY 60% OR 50%.

THAT'S WE SHOULD AVOID THAT. AND I THINK MODEST, CONTINUAL ADJUSTMENTS EVERY FOUR YEARS IS APPROPRIATE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE TRY TO KEEP THEM AT A REASONABLE LEVEL WITHIN OUR BUDGET, OUR AFFORDABILITY AND I GUESS THAT'S THE STATEMENT THAT GETS ME TO THE NEXT COMMENT AS IT RELATES PARTICULARLY TO OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITIONS.

IT'S I PERSONALLY BELIEVE BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS SHOULD BE ADJUSTED AND SHOULD BE INCREASED.

AND AGAIN, FOR THE SAME REASONS I STATED EARLIER, WE CAN'T WAIT AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND FURTHER PUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN A HOLE, RIGHT.

THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN PARTICULAR IS INUNDATED WITH PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUESTS.

IT'S THE JOB HAS GOTTEN HARDER OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, NOT EASIER.

WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN ELECTION CYCLE. THAT'S UNIQUE TO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

WE TEND TO HAVE MANY ELECTIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

THAT MAKES IT EASIER. WE DON'T JUST HAVE ONE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO AT LEAST IN OUR RECENT PAST SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO THERE.

AND I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO TREAT THE POSITION OF CLERK AS A TRADITIONAL DEPARTMENT HEAD TYPE POSITION, NOT AS A PART TIME POSITION, IF YOU WILL. THE TREASURER'S POSITION ITSELF AS WELL IS STRUCTURED AS A PART TIME POSITION.

CLEARLY THAT'S WHAT WAS VOTED ON IN 2024. I THINK OUR TREASURER, TREASURER SOLOMON HAS HONORED THAT ROLE.

BUT AGAIN, IT ONLY IS PART TIME OR ACTS PART TIME.

IF WE ADJUST IT TO CONTINUE TO BE AT SOME LEVEL OF INDEXED INFLATION.

SO I THINK THAT POSITION ALSO WARRANTS AN ADJUSTMENT AT THIS TIME.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIND OF OUR ASSOCIATION PRACTICE OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO KIND OF SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE.

WHEN IT COMES TO NEGOTIATIONS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FISCAL ABILITY FOR LARGE INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE HAVE ON OCCASION IDENTIFIED A POSITION AND GIVEN IT A SPECIAL ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE IT IS SOME, YOU KNOW, IT IS DEVIATING IN THE GENERAL MARKET.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM THAT ELEANOR PRODUCED, THERE COULD BE AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE TO MAKE AN INITIAL ADJUSTMENT.

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WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A 5% FLEXIBLE HIRING FREEZE.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING OFFICIALLY IN THE BUDGET DEDICATED TO INCREASES AT THIS TIME.

AS I HAVE SAID TO YOU ALL, WE'RE, VERY CAUTIOUS IN LOOKING AT OUR FISCAL SITUATION GOING FORWARD.

WE'RE WAITING ON CERTAIN BITS OF INFORMATION TO DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE WE'RE REALLY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN PERHAPS CONSIDER ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAVE SOME ACTIONS COMING UP IN MARCH THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE DATA FROM YEAR END RESULTS THAT IS IMPORTANT.

OUR RECENT INFORMATION FROM OUR CALPERS ACTUARY IS IMPORTANT.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE LENDING THEMSELVES TO HOW WE WILL EVALUATE INCREASES GOING FORWARD AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS WE'RE GOING TO BE OR SOON, OR ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH WHAT WILL BE FOUR OF OUR MEMBER ASSOCIATIONS HERE FOR WHAT WILL BE EXPIRING CONTRACTS AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MAKE DETERMINATIONS HERE TONIGHT.

BUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR ASSOCIATION AGREEMENTS IS WE CAN ADDRESS THEM IN REAL TIME, YEAR BY YEAR, SIX MONTHS BY SIX MONTHS OR MULTI YEAR IN MULTI YEAR INCREMENTS.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY WITH THE TREASURER, THE CLERK OR YOURSELVES.

WE HAVE TO TAKE WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US TODAY, LOOK IN OUR CRYSTAL BALL AND MAKE OUR BEST EDUCATED GUESS.

SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF YOU SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AUSTERE IN 2027, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE STATE OF OUR FISCAL WORLD.

THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT I DON'T THINK BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE AUSTERE IN 2027, YOU CAN'T THEN SAY IN 2028, 2029 AND 2030, THOSE POSITIONS SHOULD SEE MORE TRADITIONAL CPI OR COLA'S AS A MEANS TO OVERALL INCREASE.

SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT FOR AT LEAST THE TWO ELECTED POSITIONS.

I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO. CAN WE DO A FOUR YEAR INCREMENT FOR COUNCIL TERM? WELL, IT WOULD BE FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION, WOULD BE FOR SEATS THREE AND FIVE, AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER IT WOULD BE FOR SEATS ONE, TWO AND. RIGHT. BUT IS IT CAN WE DO A FOUR CAN WE DO A PROGRESSIVE INCREMENT FOR COUNCIL TERMS, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE A SINGLE ADJUSTMENT? NO.

YOU CAN DO IT. YEAH. SO. APRIL 1ST OF EACH FORTHCOMING YEAR.

RIGHT. SO THE IDEA IS YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT IT YOURSELVES THAT WAY.

DO YOU DO AN INCREMENTAL CPI OR COLA ADJUSTMENT OVER THE FOUR YEAR TERM OR CYCLE VERSUS A SINGLE ADJUSTMENT.

YOU COULD YOU'VE DONE SINGLE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE PAST.

YOU COULD MODEL MORE WHAT HAS OCCURRED FOR THE TREASURER OR THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR YOURSELVES AS WELL.

BUT MY GENERAL RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU, THAT YOU DO SOMETHING TO ADJUST YOUR WAGES OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS AND THE WAGES OF THE TWO OTHER POSITIONS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU AVOID MASSIVE DEFICITS LATER IN OUR DIFFERENT TERM ARCS.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU, YOU INCREASE ALL OF THE SALARIES THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING IN SOME MODEST WAY GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. AND TREASURER SOLOMAN, DO YOU WANT TO OPINE ON? YOU SAID YOU HAD AN OPINION OF THE LAST MEETING OF THE OR THE RELATED MEETING OF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE AUGUST 27TH MEETING, I APPEARED AT THE FIRST MEETING FOR THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION AND GAVE THE COMMISSION A DETAIL OF SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE FOR ME AND IN MY OFFICE.

I WATCHED AFTERWARDS, THE AUGUST 27TH MEETING.

AND I FEEL THAT SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE THERE THAT DAY DO NOT REFLECT OUR REAL TIME OPERATIONS.

THE TREASURER'S ROLE WAS DESCRIBED AS CEREMONIAL, AND THE ROLE OF THE DEPUTY CITY TREASURER WAS MINIMIZED.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, WHAT OUR DEPUTY CITY TREASURER DOES IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, INCREDIBLY VALUABLE. AND THAT PERSON DOES A LOT OF HARD WORK.

SO I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE ROLE OF THE TREASURER I TOOK THE MOMENT TO WRITE DOWN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE FOR ME AS A CITY TREASURER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE TREASURER'S DEPARTMENT.

CURRENTLY WE'RE CREATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO INVEST OUR MEASURE FP FUNDS, WHICH WILL GO ON FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT THREE YEARS AFTER WE ISSUE OUR BONDS.

WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THAT MONEY INTERNALLY. SO WE'RE CREATING DOING A BROKER DEALER RFP.

WE'RE AMENDING OUR INVESTMENT POLICY AS WE DO ANNUALLY.

SO THE INVESTMENT POLICIES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW, AND WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU TO INCORPORATE THE NECESSARY FUNCTIONS TO INVEST THOSE FUNDS. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND OUR FINANCE TEAM TO MODERNIZE OUR UUT.

YOU'VE HAD A DISCUSSION HERE THAT IS WITHIN OUR OFFICE.

WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THE FINANCE TEAM TO UPDATE THE TOT THAT YOU ALL HAVE SUGGESTED FOR US TO BRING BACK.

THE BOND ISSUANCE ITSELF, I STARTED WORKING THE TREASURER'S OFFICE MYSELF AS TREASURER, STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S TEAM,

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WE ARE WORKING ON CASH FLOW UPDATES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING APPROPRIATELY AND MAINTAINING CASH FLOW FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE COORDINATING OUR REVENUE COLLECTION FOR OUR TOT AND OTHER REVENUE SOURCES WITH THE CITY FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITH REPORTING AND INTERCHANGES BACK AND FORTH EACH DAY MONTHLY REPORTS TO YOU AND THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMISSION.

WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT JUST COMPLETED AN AUDIT FOR ONE OF OUR UUT PROVIDERS, FOUND THAT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE CITY, AND WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO COLLECT THOSE FUNDS AND ASSESS A PENALTY.

WE HAVE A BANKING RFP THAT IS OUT RIGHT NOW TO GO FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS GETTING THE BEST VALUE FOR THEIR DOLLARS.

WE'RE CONDUCTING REVENUE AUDITS AND BRINGING ON A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT, AS YOU ALL VERY KINDLY APPROVED IN OUR LAST BUDGET.

WE'RE WORKING ON OUR INVESTMENTS. WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT TEAM.

THEY ARE NON-DISCRETIONARY. SO THEY MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND WE MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN OUR OFFICE.

SO WE'RE EVALUATING ALL OF THOSE THINGS EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEK.

SO YES, IT'S A PART TIME JOB. AND I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED HERE BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SURVIVE ON MY SALARY ALONE.

THE PERSON WHO IS NEXT IN THIS ROLE, I WOULD ASSUME, WOULD BE A RETIRED PERSON OR INDEPENDENTLY EMPLOYED SELF-EMPLOYED LIKE MYSELF.

BUT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE, I THINK, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT PUT IT SOME INCENTIVE FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON THAT ROLE. AND IF YOU WERE TO GIVE THAT ROLE A 3% COLA, THAT'S $62.50 PER MONTH, IS THAT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY DOING IT OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT 12 OR 20 YEARS, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, FOR THE NEXT CHANGE.

OKAY. IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

THANKS. SO YOU SHARE COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT'S ASSESSMENT OF THAT THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

I DO. YES, I FELT THIS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW JUST A YES OR NO.

IT'S FINE. YES I DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANKS.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. SORRY FOR MAKING YOU WAIT SO LONG, BUT I WANTED TO HIT THOSE AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, SOMEONE SAID TO ME THAT THIS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE JOB YOU'LL EVER HAVE.

AND MORE TRUE THAN I EVER EXPECTED. WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT, I THOUGHT, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS. AND SO I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND IT IS WEIRD TALKING ABOUT, HEY, I WANT TO GET MYSELF A RAISE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT REALLY GOOD PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR THIS JOB IN THE FUTURE AND MOVING FORWARD.

THE IDEA OF THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENT, I 100% AGREE.

WE DON'T WANT TO ADD ANOTHER REIMBURSEMENT. I THINK WE FIGURE OUT THE APPROPRIATE SALARY AND THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO ADJUST IT.

AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THAT.

I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. OVER THE LAST FOUR YEAR PERIOD, MINIMUM WAGE WENT UP 12.7% AND THE CPI WENT UP 13.3% OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, 6.45 AND 6.26%. THAT'S FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

THAT'S NOT A YEARLY. BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST TWO AND FOUR YEARS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TREAT ALL THE POSITIONS THE SAME.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY, OH, WELL, THE CLERK SHOULD GET THIS AND THE TREASURER SHOULD GET THIS, AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD GET THIS. LOOK AT EVERYBODY.

TREAT THEM ALL THE SAME. AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE REAL THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE CPI.

OR IS IT BETTER TO HONESTLY, I LIKE WHAT THE CITY CLERK PUT OUT.

AN IMMEDIATE 10% INCREASE A 3% ANNUAL INCREASE.

AND EVERY FOUR YEARS DO A REVISIT AND TRUE UP IF NECESSARY.

BASED ON HOW CPI DOES OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

SO CPI GOES UP BY 12% OVER THOSE FOUR YEARS, THEN PERHAPS THAT CITY COUNCIL COULD SAY, OKAY, INSTEAD OF A 10% ADJUSTMENT, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD THREE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A 5% THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN 3% AFTER THAT.

BUT BE CONSERVATIVE WITH WHAT WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE.

AND IF YOU YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE THAT 3% ISN'T ENOUGH, YOU WANT TO GO LOWER, YOU KNOW, SOME WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK MAKES SENSE. HAVE AN ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT, TAKE IT OUT OF OUR HANDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE HAVING TO DECIDE ALL THAT OFTEN. IF THERE'S A POLICY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW,

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AND WHETHER YOU'RE TREASURER, CITY CLERK, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, ALL FOLLOWING THAT SAME POLICY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

SO I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT AND ALSO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

I DO THINK WE NEED THE SOME MECHANISM THAT'S DEFINED AND CLEAR ABOUT HOW ALL OF THE SALARIES INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO WHETHER IT IS THE ANNUAL CPI OR 3%, SOME FIXED PERCENTAGE.

I THINK THAT THAT JUST AGAIN TAKES IT OUT OF OUR HANDS, MAKES IT VERY CLEAR, BUT THEN PROTECTS US FROM THAT YOU KNOW, 16 YEAR LAG OF ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO DO A 50% INCREASE AND IT SEEMS EXORBITANT.

AND THEN ALSO ON THE STIPEND FOR OR STIPEND OR INCREASING THE BASE SALARY TO INCLUDE I GUESS MAIL LIST AND COMMUNICATIONS. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEW SORT OF, I GUESS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY STARTED DOING CELL PHONES AND OTHER EXPENSES THAT COME ALONG WITH THE JOB, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL. THAT'S IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO. FIRST, I AGREE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. CITY CLERK, I THINK, SAID THAT SHE'S GOING TO RETIRE AFTER THIS.

YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND RUN FOR CITY CLERK IN THIS CITY.

THEY'VE GOT TO QUALIFY TO BE A CITY CLERK. THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CLASSES, CERTAIN TYPES OF CLASSES, CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS. IF THE PERSON IS NOT ALREADY LIVING HERE, THEY GOT TO MOVE TO REDONDO BEACH.

HOW EXPENSIVE DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE? THIS SALARY IS NOT.

I'M SURPRISED IT IS ACTUALLY STAYING. IT IS WHERE IT IS.

SO I AGREE, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE SEAT BECOMING OPEN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD QUALIFIED PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO THE CITY TO RUN FOR THIS POSITION. SO YES, I AGREE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S FORMULA THERE FOR THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

MY CONSTANT CONTACT BILL IS $350 A MONTH NOW.

I'M TERMING OUT IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT, HEY, WOULD YOU WANT TO RUN FOR THIS SEAT? I THINK YOU'D BE GREAT.

TERESA HERE RIGHT NOW SAYS NO. I'VE GOT TOO MANY CONFLICTS.

I WORK IN LAND USE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. OTHER INDIVIDUALS I WON'T NAME BY NAME.

ONE PERSON SAYS, I SEE THE BARBS YOU GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

I JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT. NO WAY. QUALIFIED PERSON.

ANOTHER PERSON THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH WORK FOR WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PART TIME JOB, AND I'D LOSE MONEY DOING IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, ATTORNEYS OUT THERE JUST THERE'S AN ATTORNEY JOINING THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM DISTRICT FOUR. HE'S GOT TO GIVE UP HIS BILLING TIME IN ORDER TO DO THIS WORK.

IT WILL COST HIM TREMENDOUSLY IF HE WERE EVER TO DECIDE TO RUN AND BECOME A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND WE'RE NEVER TRYING TO OFFSET THE INCOME THAT THEY'D BE GETTING IN THEIR OTHER JOB.

BUT WE NEED TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S NOT A TOTAL FINANCIAL DEVASTATION FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE TO RUN FOR THIS OFFICE AND HOLD THIS OFFICE.

AND WE NEED TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THIS POSITION. I DON'T THINK THE MONEY WILL ATTRACT SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S GOT TO NOT BE SO ECONOMICALLY UNAPPEALING.

INSOFAR AS, YOU KNOW A QUARTER OF YOUR PAY OR A THIRD OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, SOME PROPORTION OF YOUR PAY IS GOING TO GO TO JUST DOING THE BARE MINIMUM OF COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THEIR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE MORE THAN ANY DECISION I'VE MADE, ANY LOBBYING I'VE DONE FOR DISTRICT FOUR, WHAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE IS THE COMMUNICATION THAT THEY GET ON A REGULAR BASIS, NOT JUST FROM ME, BUT FROM EVERYBODY UP HERE THROUGH THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART TO BEING A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT FOR US NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR THE NEXT PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY THESE SEATS I THINK WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE RISING COSTS OF COMMUNICATION. AND SO I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER PROPOSED, WHICH IS ADOPTING KIND OF THE SAME FORMULA THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY THE CITY CLERK RELATIVE TO IF THAT'S A 10% INCREASE, FOLLOWED BY 3% ANNUAL INCREASES.

WHEN THAT BECOMES EFFECTIVE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLAY WITH THAT, YOU CAN MAKE IT EFFECTIVE.

AND FOR DISTRICT 4 IN 2029 YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NEXT PERSON TAKES THIS SEAT, I'M OPEN

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SO YOURS IS 10,000. WHAT ABOUT FOR A MAYOR? NOT NOT THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, BUT. SO YOU PULLED THE WHOLE THE WHOLE CITY. WHAT THE REGISTRAR HAS FOR THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AS OF TWO YEARS AGO OR WHENEVER I WAS RUNNING WAS ABOUT, I THINK 16,000 ADDRESSES.

SO IT PROBABLY IS IT ONLY INCREASES IN TIME AS TIME GOES ON AND PEOPLE REREGISTER TO VOTE AND PUT DOWN THEIR EMAIL.

MY POINT IS THEY'VE GOT THE WHOLE CITY. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S, THRESHOLDS BY WHICH YOU PAY.

EXACTLY. CONSTANT CONTACT. SO WOULD YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THE MAYOR THAN FOR THE COUNCIL? IF YOUR RATIONALE IS THE COST OF. WELL, OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMMUNICATIONS.

RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE THIS AS A COMMUNICATION EXPENSE BECAUSE OF.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE CONSIDERATION THAT ONE IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

I DO HAVE AN ANSWER IF YOU GO FOR IT. SURE. SO ALL GOOD POINTS AND I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

SO YOUR HAND'S UP NEXT ANYWAY, IT'S UP NEXT. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION UNDER SB 320 OUR CHARTER, AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMPENSATION ARE TIED TO THIS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 36516.

OKAY, SO WE'VE BAKED INTO OUR CHARTER FOR BOTH MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS SB 329.

OKAY. WHICH WE JUST HEARD ABOUT, SB 329, AS WE SAW HAS A CAP OF 5% PER YEAR SINCE THE LAST ADJUSTMENT, OKAY. FOR COUNCIL AND MAYOR. SO 5% TIMES THE LAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO IS 20%.

WE'RE CAPPED AT 20% OF THE CURRENT MONTHLY SALARY OF $1669, AND ROUGHLY 20% OF THAT IS ABOUT $333 A MONTH. SO THE CAP FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL IS AT $333.

SO THAT WOULDN'T ENTIRELY COVER COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI'S MONTHLY CONSTANT CONTACT, AND IT WOULDN'T COVER THE MAYORS IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER THRESHOLD. BUT IT'S SOMETHING AND IT'S $333 IS WHAT IT COMES OUT TO.

TODAY AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN'T BAKE IN FUTURE, WE CAN'T BAKE IN FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS.

WE GOT TO COME BACK IN FOUR. EVERY FOUR YEARS.

YEAH. YOU CAN BAKE IN FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS OVER THE TERM OF THE OVER THE FOUR YEAR TERM.

YOU JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT. SO YOU COULD DO 3% PER YEAR.

SO YOU'RE SAYING WE COULD BRING US UP COUNCIL AND MAYOR TO THE $333.

AND THEN EACH YEAR ADD 5%. NO MORE THAN 5% EACH YEAR THEREAFTER.

YEAH. AND THAT'S FOR SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE LANGUAGE AS I READ IT.

IT'S A 5% A YEAR CAP AND THEN IT'S, ALTHOUGH IS THERE A IS THERE A SINGLE CAP INCREASE OF 10% IN ANY ONE TIME? NO, IT WAS THE LAST SEATS THAT WERE ADJUSTED WERE ACTUALLY APRIL 1ST, 2025.

SO THAT WAS THE NEXT SEATS THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED ARE APRIL 1ST, 2027.

THAT WILL BE TWO YEARS. SO THAT COULD BE 10%.

YEAH. SO I THINK YOU'RE I THINK YOUR INITIAL INCREASE IS CAPPED AT 10% BECAUSE THE LAST FOR THE SEATS THAT WERE ADJUSTED IN 25.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR. THOSE WERE DISTRICTS ONE, TWO AND FOUR AND THE MAYOR.

BUT THEY WOULDN'T KICK IN UNTIL 29. THEY WOULD KICK IN THREE AND FIVE WOULD KICK IN 29.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM THREE AND FIVE, KICK IN, IN 27 ONE.

27 IS THE YEAH, THREE AND FIVE AND THEN 29 IS EVERYBODY ELSE.

RIGHT. SO YOU CAN'T DO. YOU COULD PRESUMABLY DO AN INITIAL UP TO 20% INCREASE, FOLLOWED BY NO MORE THAN 5% EACH YEAR THEREAFTER. OKAY. AND 5% OF $333 IS ROUGHLY $15.

WELL, YOU'RE DOING 5% OF THE $1,900 OR WHATEVER THE TOTAL.

IS THAT WHAT IT IS. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD THEN BE ALMOST $100.

A LITTLE UNDER WOULD BE $75. OKAY. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE ADJUSTMENT THAT CAN BE DONE EFFECTIVE, I GUESS WHAT APRIL 1, 2027 WOULD BE THE INITIAL 20%, WHICH IS $333 TO COVER THIS

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DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, FOUR AND MAYOR WOULD KICK IN IN 2029.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, IF THAT'S.

THAT'S THE CEILING. THAT'S THE CEILING. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT GOING TO COVER THE MAYOR'S CONSTANT CONTACT BILL.

HE'S NOT ASKING FOR IT. I DON'T CARE FOR ME. I KNOW.

I JUST REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, BILL USED TO COMPLAIN QUITE A BIT. BILL WASN'T A WEALTHY MAN.

HE. YEAH. AND IT IMPACTED HIS FINANCIALS BEING MAYOR.

AND HE ALWAYS SAID BEING MAYOR IS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT WAS WHEN HE WAS COUNCIL.

SO OKAY. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO COVER THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT OF THE COMMUNICATION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.

SO YEAH, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT, WHICH IS THE 5% PER YEAR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS FOR EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, 2027 FOR, I GUESS THE SEATS THAT WOULD BE UP THEN AND THEN 5% A YEAR THEREAFTER AS ALLOWED.

THROUGH THE END OF THAT 2027 TERM. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO APRIL 1, 2029 FOR DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, FOUR AND THE MAYOR, I GUESS THAT WOULD AT THAT POINT BE AT 30% AND THEN 5% A YEAR FOR THAT.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. THE MATH IS CORRECT.

YES. MATH IS CORRECT. WHICH STILL WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE A MODEST AMOUNT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

SO I'M OPEN TO THAT. IS THAT A MOTION? YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION A STANDALONE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY COUNCIL PORTION OF THIS DISCUSSION AND COUPLED WITH THE THE FINDINGS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH I COULD PUT UP ON THE SCREEN OR SEND.

THAT WAY, WE'RE DOING THIS IN LIKE DIGESTIBLE PIECES.

ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S JUST FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCILMEMBERS. YEAH. YES, WE HAVE A SECOND. SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR TREASURER.

AND OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE STILL HAVE A HANDS UP. SO. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

YES. ALL SOUND LOGICAL POINTS. THIS JOB IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO FOR THE MONEY. AND I WOULD SAY THAT I SEE THE CITY CLERK POSITION DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. IT'S A FULL TIME JOB AND IT IS HEAVY WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, ELECTIONS, AND WE NEED TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO DO THIS JOB WELL.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE BLUE FOLDER.

CITY MANAGER, HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR THESE INCREASES? WELL, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HIT OR BECOME EFFECTIVE IN THE LATTER PART OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MATERIAL IMPACT ON THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

WHERE IT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE CRITICAL ADJUSTMENT IS JUST IN OUR FUTURE, OUR 27-28 BUDGET IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROPOSE AND INCORPORATE THESE SCHEDULED ADJUSTMENTS. AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ABSORB THEM WITHIN OUR REVENUE STRUCTURE, BUT EVEN THEN ITS INCREMENTED BY THE STAGGERED COUNCIL.

YEAH. IT IS. I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT TWO PERSPECTIVE POSITIONS THAT AT LEAST AT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL LEVEL, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD SEE AN INCREASE BETWEEN THE MONTHS OF APRIL, YOU KNOW, APRIL, MAY AND JUNE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE OUR BUDGET NEEDLE.

NOR PROSPECTIVELY WOULD AN ADJUSTMENT IN APRIL FOR THE CLERK'S POSITION OR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

AND IN FACT, THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS SALARY SAVINGS DUE TO VACANCIES AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

SO WE CAN ABSORB THAT ADJUSTMENT WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.

WE WOULD THEN JUST BE OBLIGATED LIKE WE ARE WITH ANY CONTRACT, OUR FIRE ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASES THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

PLAN. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE FOUR OTHER GROUPS THAT WE ARE UP TO DISCUSS INCREASES WITH. AND HOWEVER SMALL THESE ADJUSTMENTS ARE WITH OUR $130 MILLION BUDGET, IT'S STILL AN INCREASE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REFERENCING NECESSARY COMMUNICATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

AND I THINK WE ALL PUT OUT NEWSLETTERS. WE ALL DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEONE WHERE WE ALL INCLUDE DIFFERENT INFORMATION IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS.

AND I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN PV WHERE THE CITY PUTS OUT A, MAYBE LIKE A NEWSLETTER OR BULLETIN OR SOMETHING

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IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME MESSAGE. IT'S NOT A UNITED MESSAGE.

AND I THINK THAT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR RESIDENTS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MERIT TO EXPANDING THE POOL OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THIS JOB BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S NECESSARY. IT'S I'M STRUGGLING GOING INTO MY SECOND TERM, FINDING SOMEONE THAT WOULD WANT TO DO THIS JOB TOO. IT'S A LOT OF TIME AND IT IS WHAT WE MAKE IT.

I WAS TOLD WHEN I WAS STEPPING UP FOR THIS JOB, IT CAN BE AS BIG OR AS LITTLE AS YOU WANT IT TO BE.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CHOICE, BUT WE DO WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO INVEST TIME IN IT.

AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL IN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FULL TIME JOB, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTED.

THAT SAID, I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK PAY IS THE ISSUE.

$300 IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE EFFORT THAT I PUT IN HERE.

AND, I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE STEPPING UP FOR PTA, THERE'S NOT A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE STEPPING UP FOR AYSO AND THEY DON'T GET PAID.

WHAT THE ISSUE IS, IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THE DIVISIVENESS, THE RHETORIC, THE VILLAINIZING POLITICAL PEOPLE.

AND IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE STEPPING UP FOR THIS JOB.

IF WE CAN SEND A UNITED MESSAGE OF YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO POINT OUT PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME, BUT FIND SOLUTIONS AND WORK TOGETHER. WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE, BUT LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION.

THERE'S A REASON THERE'S FIVE OF US HERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO THE PAY ISN'T THE ISSUE. AND I WOULD SAY THAT ADJUSTMENT AT THIS TIME IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN FINANCIALLY, I DO NOT SUPPORT A RAISE FOR US AT THIS TIME.

IT ABSOLUTELY. I HOPE WE FIND OURSELVES IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION TWO YEARS FROM NOW, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND WE SHOULDN'T FALL FAR BEHIND.

BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE CLERK'S POSITION AS PROPOSED IN THE BLUE FOLDER.

AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AND THE OTHERS WOULD STAY THE SAME.

SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IT'S AGREEING TO THE MOTION.

COMBINED MOTION SO. WE CAN DO IT SEPARATELY AS A COMBINED MOTION.

I'M NOT I HAVE HEARTBURN. OKAY. SO THEN SINCE HIS MOTION WAS JUST FOR CITY COUNCIL, THEN I WILL WITHDRAW MINE AND MAKE A MOTION LATER ABOUT THE CLERK.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WALLER. I DID SOME QUICK RESEARCH.

I DON'T KNOW, CONSTANT CONTACT PRICING BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO MAKE IT HARD TO FIND, BUT MAILCHIMP APPROXIMATELY DOUBLES GOING FROM CITY COUNCIL SIZE TO MAYOR SIZE. SO IF YOU WANT AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, IT'S ABOUT DOUBLE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, 100 AND SOMETHING TO $250 A MONTH.

I DO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE RAISE HAVING SERVED AT STATE PTA LEVEL IT'S AN ACTUAL STRUGGLE.

THEY HAVE ISSUES FINDING LEADERSHIP AT PTA'S.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF RETREADS OF PEOPLE BEING PRESIDENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE COUNCIL AND DISTRICT AND STATE LEVEL.

AND THOSE ARE TRULY, YOU KNOW, UNPAID, UNPAID JOBS.

IT'S HIGH LEVELS. I'VE DONE IT. BUT I MEAN, EVEN AT THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL LONG BEACH COUNCIL, I CAN TELL YOU, LONG BEACH COUNCIL, THE PRESIDENT, THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS PRESIDENT PROBABLY 12 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND PEOPLE TO DO THOSE JOBS. SO THERE IS A LEADERSHIP ISSUE IN PTA.

SEPARATE PROBABLY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE NEVER BEEN PAID.

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BUT FINDING PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME IS DIFFICULT EVERYWHERE.

AND I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING HERE. I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT'S MOTION MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOO GENEROUS THOUGH. I WAS THINKING MORE ON THE ORDER OF THE COUNCIL BEING TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT THE CITY CLERK PROVIDED, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY MOTION, BUT I WAS GOING TO WAIT TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT THAT WE DO.

MY, WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SUPPORT WOULD BE A 10% IMMEDIATE RAISE AND 3% PER YEAR, AND THAT BE FOR CITY COUNCIL, FOR TREASURER, AND FOR CITY CLERK. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT.

BUT I WANTED TO HEAR. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I WANTED COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE HASN'T SPOKEN ON THIS YET.

I WANT TO SEE IF. HOW ABOUT THAT? SURE. I'LL MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO.

DO YOU WANT A SUBSTITUTE OR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I GUESS IT WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BECAUSE YOUR MOTION ONLY COVERED COUNCIL.

AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE COUNCIL MOTION. COUNCIL.

ALL THREE WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT'S MOTION TO REPLACE IT WITH A 10% RAISE AS OF 2027, AND THEN 3% ANNUAL FOR ALL THE POSITIONS.

OKAY. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THAT IS THE COUNT.

YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGES WORK OUT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY ON THE NUMBERS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT REIMBURSABLE.

YEAH, RIGHT. CONSTANT CONTACT COMMUNICATION. AND THE MORE WE SHRINK IT, THAT $333 NOW GOES TO 170.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND IT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RAW MATH.

THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE THE MOTION THAT I DID. SO HOW ABOUT THIS KIND OF.

WHAT IF I SAID WE'LL GO WITH YOUR 20%, BUT ONLY 3% PER YEAR INSTEAD OF THE 5% PER YEAR? DEAL. BECAUSE I THINK THE 5% MIGHT BE TOO GENEROUS.

IS THAT YOUR SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IT'S A LITTLE HIGH. YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE THEN 10% FOR CITY CLERK AND CITY TREASURER, 20% FOR THE COUNCIL AND THEN. MAYOR. AND MAYOR, AND THEN 3% PER YEAR ANNUAL AFTER THAT.

ON EVERYBODY. FOR EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

THAT WOULD BE MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

CITY MANAGER IS THERE MONEY FOR THAT KIND OF CHANGE? I MEAN, LIKE, I'M THINKING 20% OF $1,600 IS 320 BUCKS.

YEAH. SO THAT'S 320 BUCKS TIMES SIX POSITIONS IS $1800 $1920 BUCKS PER MONTH.

RIGHT. BUT THAT FULL AMOUNT WOULDN'T HIT TILL 2029.

IT STAGGERS. I MEAN, CERTAINLY ENOUGH. THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IT WILL NOT BE COVERED. WE'LL HAVE TO ADJUST AND ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACTS FOR DISTRICT THREE AND FIVE, FOR THE 27-28 FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN PRESUMABLY THE CLERK AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

YOU KNOW, THE FULL FORCE AND EFFECT ISN'T UNTIL THE REALLY UNTIL THE 29, 30 FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT TIME TO INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES WITHOUT REALLY HITTING OUR BUDGET.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND A SECOND.

THIS ONE'S FOR ALL POSITIONS. YOURS WAS FOR A SINGLE.

WELL, FOR THE COUNCIL, INCLUDING THE MAYOR. AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THEIR MOTION.

OF THIS ONE. YEAH, I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM PUBLIC.

DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. WELL, WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE.

WELL, WE COULD COLLAPSE TO IT. YEAH. JUST ONE THING.

ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD. WE DID GET AT THE LAST SCAG REGIONAL COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION THAT SHOULD BE OUT NOW IN A FULL REPORT, BUT I HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED IT YET ON THE ECONOMIC PROJECTIONS FOR LA COUNTY.

AND IT'S, WELL FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THEIR WHOLE REGION.

AND IT'S NOT PRETTY. YOU KNOW, THE MAIN JOBS ARE GOING DOWN.

UNEMPLOYMENT IS UP AND SKILLED WORKFORCE IS LEAVING.

SO YOU HAVE A DOUBLE NEGATIVE THAT'S IMPACTING THE ECONOMY HERE.

THE ONE SEMI UPSIDE WAS THE HOTEL INDUSTRY. BUT THEY SAID THAT'S PROBABLY SKEWED BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THE WORLD CUP.

BUT THEN THEY SAID WE'VE GOT SEVERAL BIG EVENTS COMING UP THAT COULD HELP SKEW IT THE OTHER WAY.

BUT MANUFACTURING WAS DOWN. CONSTRUCTION WAS DOWN.

A LOT OF WHAT OUR FOLKS, OUR RESIDENTS ARE, WHICH IS MANAGEMENT, TECHNICAL, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF JOBS, THOSE ARE BARELY HOLDING EQUAL. SO IT WASN'T A PRETTY FORECAST FOR CALIFORNIA,

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BUT JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS WE GO INTO THIS DISCUSSION.

SO WITH THAT, I HAVE NO MORE HANDS UP. SO WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC INPUT.

DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? NO CARDS. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. LESLIE CAMPEGGI, DISTRICT TWO.

I'M ALWAYS A PROPONENT OF WHATEVER YOU CAN PAY, DO IT.

WHATEVER THE MAX IS THAT YOU CAN AFFORD, DO IT.

TO FIND QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO RUN YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT CHEAPLY.

MOST OF YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE OTHER INCOME, OTHER JOBS, OTHER MECHANISMS FROM WHICH TO PAY YOUR BILLS.

NOT EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO AFFORD THE SAME. AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR QUALITY AS WELL.

MAYBE YOU DO A NAMING CONVENTION FOR THE MAIN LIBRARY TO PAY FOR IT, I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE YOU TAKE THE CITY CLERK JOB AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS OUR CITY CLERK HAS RETIRED AND MAYBE YOU MAKE THAT A NON-ELECTED POSITION SO YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND IT HAS TO BE SOMEBODY WITHIN THE CITY. YOU EXPAND YOUR POOL THERE.

SO MAYBE YOU DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER AND I WISH I DID, BUT EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES AND AT MEETINGS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED FOR AS MUCH COMPENSATION AS YOU CAN GET FOR IT, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALL DONE A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ACCORDING TO FACEBOOK, WE'RE ALL GETTING RICH OFF OUR UNDERHANDED DEALS, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT. ANYONE ONLINE. THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE AND NO ECOMMENTS AS WELL.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE HERE? OKAY, WITH THAT, WE HAVE THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I DID, I THINK PLEASE.

WELL THANK YOU. THE UNIVERSAL LIGHT UP 2B PLEASE. SO I DO THINK WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FINDINGS UNDER SB 329.

SO I JUST DRAFTED THESE WHICH ARE ON THE SCREEN.

I COULD READ THEM OR WE COULD READ THEM AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THESE TONIGHT, DO WE. WELL, WE KNEW THIS WILL COME BACK.

WE NEED TO BRING THEM IN AND INCLUDE THEM IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS HELPFUL. WE CAN WE COULD DO SOME. YEAH, I'D RATHER NOT WORDSMITH IT TONIGHT.

WE CAN DO REFINEMENT FROM NOW UNTIL TUESDAY WORKING OFF THESE DRAFTS OR IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM AND.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE LANGUAGE TONIGHT. IT COULD BE.

NO. IT JUST HAS TO BE LANGUAGE THAT WE INCLUDE.

I DON'T WANT TO WORDSMITH ORDINANCE. I DON'T EITHER.

YOU CAN INTRODUCE IT. I'LL JUST INTRODUCE IT AND I'LL SEND IT TO THE CITY CLERK.

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. YEAH. SECOND. FIRST MOTION FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE MOTION.

OKAY. BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. YEAH. BACKGROUND WORK.

SURE. I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT INCLUDES ALL POSITIONS.

ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? NO. ONE NO. I'M A NO.

OKAY, SO THE MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE DID WE GET A.

SECOND. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. I'LL SECOND.

OKAY. OKAY. SO ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD DISCUSSION. NOW DOWN TO N.3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE UPDATES TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO STREAMLINE BUSINESS PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND ASSOCIATED LAND USE REGULATIONS.

THIS ISN'T THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE TOPIC.

THIS ISN'T A FINAL. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY. MARC, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LET ME BRING UP THE PRESENTATION HERE.

YEAH. SO TONIGHT'S TOPIC, IT'S AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS ITEM.

AND REALLY THIS FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A FEW WAYS THE CITY CAN IMPACT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

ONE IS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

AND THAT'S WITH REGARDS TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE EASE FOR WHICH IT IS TO, TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND GET IT THROUGH AND GET IT TO

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AND OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT QUITE A BIT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALONG ARTESIA AND AVIATION AND PARKING STANDARDS AND OTHER ZONING STANDARDS REALLY INTENDED TO PROMOTE REVITALIZATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS ITEM FALLS UNDER THAT CATEGORY OF REGULATORY.

THERE'S ALSO THE MARKETING COMPONENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO AT THIS POINT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN IMPACT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THE CITY HAS A GOAL OF ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESSES.

AND TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO REDUCE REGULATORY BARRIERS.

AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN CONSIDERING WAYS TO STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AND THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESS.

THIS WOULD BE THE TITLEMENT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU GET THE THE ENTITLEMENT TO OPERATE THE USE.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS FOR BUSINESS PERMITTING.

AND WE'RE ALSO SEEKING THE CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY DIRECTION ON POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

AND IT'S REFERRED TO AS THE LAND USE TABLE. AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE THIS GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT.

AND THIS IS FROM THE CITY ZONING CODE. AND WHAT IT IS, IS A LIST OF USES.

AND EACH COLUMN IS A DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

AND IF IT HAS A P THAT MEANS IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

AND THEY WOULD ONLY NEED A BUSINESS LICENSE. IF IT HAS A C, THAT MEANS IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND I'LL GET INTO THOSE NEXT. SO THERE ARE THREE WAYS TO PERMIT A BUSINESS TO OPEN WITHIN THE CITY.

ONE IS THE PERMIT BY RIGHT PROCESS. THAT'S REALLY JUST AS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AS AN APPLICANT COMING IN AND SUBMITTING A BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION.

AND THE CITY, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WOULD ISSUE THAT APPROVAL, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD GIVE ZONING CLEARANCE FOR IT.

AND ESSENTIALLY, IF THE USE IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONE AND IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A PERMIT BY RIGHT.

THAT'S THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO, TO OPEN THE BUSINESS, ASIDE FROM TENANT IMPROVEMENTS OR ANY CONSTRUCTION THEY MAY DO THERE.

THE SECOND PROCESS IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR CUP PROCESS, AND THAT IS REFLECTED BY THE C LETTERS IN THAT TABLE.

AND UNDER THIS PROCESS, THE CITY HAS DISCRETION TO APPROVE, DENY OR CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE BUSINESS.

IT WOULD GO BEFORE A HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE HARBOR COMMISSION IF IT'S IN THE WATERFRONT AREA.

SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS PERMITTING REQUIREMENT IS THAT IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO APPLY SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

SO IF THE CITY WANTS TO SAY, LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION OR SOME OTHER ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS IT CAN DO IT THROUGH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE DECISION IS BASED ON SUBJECTIVE CRITERIA THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

ONE OF THE DRAWBACKS OF THIS PROCESS THERE IS GREATER UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS FOR THE PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS.

AND THERE IS A COST, A HIGHER COST THAN THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION.

A HIGHER COST? THERE IS. THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION IS $3,737, AND THAT COVERS THE COST OF STAFF REVIEW, PREPARING THE REPORT AND TAKING IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE MAJORITY OF BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY DO REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE LAND USE TABLE, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 70% FOR THE INLAND PORTIONS OF THE CITY, AND AS HIGH AS 84% FOR THE COASTAL COMMERCIAL ZONES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

IS THAT BY INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS OR YOU JUST WENT DOWN THE CATEGORIES AND SAID 70.

JUST BY THE IT'S BY THE USES, THE LIST OF USES THAT ARE IN THE TABLE.

AND IT WAS AN ANALYSIS OF THE VARIOUS CELLS. IF WE HAD 1001 AND ZERO IN THE OTHER, THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN YOUR.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF BUSINESS IS RETAIL.

AND THAT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT AND DOESN'T REFLECT THE PROPORTIONS OR THE PERCENTAGES OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS USES AND WHAT THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND THEN THE THIRD TYPE OF PROCESS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT PROCESS.

AND THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY NOT VERY COMMON. NOT MANY OF OUR USES HAVE THIS PROCESS.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND IT GIVES THE CITY DISCRETION OVER THE APPLICATION THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ON THE BUSINESS OPERATION.

ONE OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES IS THE DECISION IS MADE BY STAFF AND IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE.

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AND IT IS APPEALABLE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO THERE IS SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES WITH THIS WHERE IF THERE'S A USE IT'S OF CONCERN TO A NEIGHBOR OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO APPEAL. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE PROCESSES.

AND WHILE I ALREADY NOTED, WHILE THE CUP PROCESS DOES PROVIDE THE CITY WITH GREATER DISCRETION OVER BUSINESSES AND THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS THERE ARE SOME DRAWBACKS OF THAT COST AND UNCERTAINTY, WHICH CAN REALLY ACT AS A BARRIER TO NEW BUSINESSES OPENING.

AND COINCIDENTALLY, I HAVE AN EXAMPLE JUST FROM TODAY, I SPOKE WITH THE PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OWNER THAT WANTS TO OPEN A BEER AND WINE TASTING BUSINESS OFF CATALINA. AND THEY'RE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION.

THEY OWN ANOTHER BUSINESS IN THE CITY. THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH THE CUP PROCESS, THE UNCERTAINTY OF IT WITH THE COST.

CONCERNED. SPECIFICALLY. AND THEY'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH LEASE NEGOTIATIONS.

SO IT'S CHALLENGING TO NEGOTIATE THAT WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR ENTITLEMENT.

SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE FROM TODAY. AND WE ACTUALLY ENCOUNTERED THIS SOMEWHAT FREQUENTLY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

SO IN STAFF'S OPINION SEVERAL OF THESE USES COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOWNGRADED TO THE AUP OR PERMIT BY RIGHT PROCESS.

AND WE CAN GET DOWN FROM THAT 70% OR 84%. AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES I'VE PROVIDED PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES, THOSE REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD TYPICALLY CONSIST OF LIKE A PILATES STUDIO, A DANCE STUDIO, A BUSINESS THAT PROVIDES ART AND MUSIC LESSONS.

THOSE WOULD HAVE TO PAY CLOSE TO $4,000 AND GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO OPEN A BUSINESS.

AND IN STAFF'S OPINION, IS SOMEWHAT DISPROPORTIONATE TO WHAT THE USE IS GOING TO BE.

THERE'S ALSO ASSEMBLY USES. WE GET USES THAT ARE DEFINED AS CLUBS AND LODGES WHERE MAYBE IT'S A SOCIAL ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS THERE.

MAYBE SMALL EVENT SPACES, CHILD DAYCARE CENTERS.

THESE ALL REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MAKING A PERMIT BY RIGHT OR AN AUP PROCESS.

THERE'S ALSO ANIMAL GROOMING BUSINESSES. AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THOSE GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN RECENT YEARS.

AND REALLY THE KEY ISSUE WITH THOSE APPLICATIONS IS THE THE NOISE MITIGATION, THE NOISE ATTENUATION OF THE SPACE.

AND I THINK IF WE JUST HAVE THE STANDARDS BUILT INTO THE CODE AS TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE NOISE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO THROUGH A FULL HEARING PROCESS.

CAN YOU DO THAT? CAN YOU JUST BUILD IT IN THE CODE? WE CAN. SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AS JUST A STANDARD OPERATION OR SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY DEMONSTRATE IT TO THE DIRECTOR.

SO THAT'S AN OPTION. AND THEN ALSO RESTAURANTS LARGER THAN 2000FT² GENERALLY REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE UNNECESSARY.

RECENTLY HAD AN APPLICATION FOR CHIPOTLE TO GO IN IN THE SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEY HAD TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S FAIRLY BENIGN JUST TO OPEN A CHAIN RESTAURANT THERE.

AND IT WENT THROUGH. BUT JUST EXAMPLES LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INDICATE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS, IN MY OPINION. AND THEN ALSO AS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE SOME FOCUS AREAS WE WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHILE WE'RE RECOMMENDING POTENTIALLY RELAXING THE PERMITTING STANDARDS OR STREAMLINING IT TO AN EXTENT FOR MOST OF THE CITY, THE ARTESIAN AVIATION OR AACAP, HAS BEEN A REAL FOCUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN RECENT YEARS, AND THE GOAL IS TO REVITALIZE THE CORRIDOR AND MAKE IT MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED KIND OF PLACE MAKING EFFORT.

SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THE TABLE AND LOOK AT WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE CERTAIN TYPES OF USES THAT ARE DESIRED THERE, SUCH AS RESTAURANTS AND POSSIBLY DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS EXPERIENTIAL OR ENTERTAINMENT USES, WHICH ARE REALLY COMMON AS WE GO MOVE AWAY FROM RETAIL.

AND THESE USES RIGHT NOW WOULD REQUIRE A CUP.

WE ALSO MAY WANT TO LOOK AT DISALLOWING OR RESTRICTING CERTAIN USES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR SUCH AS LIQUOR STORES, MASSAGE, AUTO REPAIR, DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS.

TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT REALLY ARE NOT CONDUCIVE OF THE VISION FOR THE CORRIDOR AS LAID OUT IN THE AACAP.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND THEN ALSO UPDATING THE CRITERIA FOR ISSUING FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT DO REQUIRE A CUP UPDATING THE CRITERIA FOR THE CUP'S SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE AACAP IT'S A UNIQUE CORRIDOR THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL TREATMENT.

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AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, 84% OF THE USES REQUIRE A CUP.

I KNOW THAT'S A BIT OF A SPECIALIZED AREA, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DESIRE TO KIND OF MANAGE WHAT TYPES OF USES GO IN THERE, ALTHOUGH MOST OF IT IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND JUST SEEKING THE COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE ON WHETHER WE SHOULD CONSIDER RELAXING SOME OF THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COASTAL COMMERCIAL ZONE. SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON POLICY DIRECTION THE STAFF, AND ALSO CONSIDER UTILIZING THE CITY COUNCIL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON REFINING THIS LIST AND COMING BACK WITH SOME MORE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE IN COMING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE GETTING TO THE DETAILS.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE MIXED USE IN THERE AND THAT HAS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT MIXED USE AS WELL WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS? WE MIGHT AS WELL. I WOULD, AND REALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THE DISTRICTS, EVEN INDUSTRIAL.

I KNOW MIXED USE IT'S A LITTLE MORE YOU HAVE TO GIVE MORE CONSIDERATION TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO. RIGHT. SO MAYBE IN THOSE CASES, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LOT OF DANCE STUDIOS AND STUFF.

I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT LEGATO, THE FIRST THING THAT WENT IN WAS, WAS A PILATES STUDIO.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, SOME OF THE USES ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT, WHICH MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO BE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, A REALLY LARGE SIZE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

AND IT WAS A PERMIT BY RIGHT USE. THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR TO DENY IT AND REFER IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE UTILIZE THAT, BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WITH THE NUMBER OF TRUCK TRIPS, IT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL AND IT WAS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO REALLY IT'S ALL THE LAND USE TABLES, I THINK NEED TO BE EVALUATED.

I'D BE OPEN TO EVALUATING THEM ALL. YES. AND I THINK IN SOME CASES MAYBE IT SHOULD BE MORE RESTRICTIVE, LIKE ALONG THE AACAP INDUSTRIAL AND OTHERS I THINK IT COULD BE RELAXED.

GOT IT. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU MENTIONED DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.

THAT'S ONE WAY CITIES ARE USING TO CAPTURE SALES TAX REVENUE, BECAUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ARE A POINT OF SALE WHERE YOU GET SALES TAX.

SO IF WE DENIED THAT, WE PROBABLY DENIED A GOOD SOURCE OF SALES TAX REVENUE.

I DON'T WANT TO THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IT SOUNDS GREAT ON THE SURFACE, BUT WHEN YOU DIG UP THE DETAILS, LIKE WHAT ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT A DANCE STUDIO OR A PILATES, RIGHT? BEING PART OF IT, BUT WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THAT TYPE OF LAND USE OR BUSINESS USE? BECAUSE THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. AND I AGREE, IF WE DO THIS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CODE BECAUSE THE MAIN CONCERN WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT PULSATING MUSIC, THEY GOT PEOPLE ON AMPLIFIED SOUND SHOUTING OUT INSTRUCTIONS.

YOU KNOW SOMETHING? YOU GOT PEOPLE GRUNTING AND NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

SO IF WE ESTABLISH SOME SOUND STANDARDS FOR USES LIKE THAT, I THINK WE COULD GET MORE TO ADMINISTRATIVE OR EVEN BY RIGHT APPROVAL, BUT YOU GOT TO DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I AGREE, AND WE COULD CODIFY THAT, BUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF USE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICE THAT THEY NEED TO MEET CERTAIN NOISE REQUIREMENTS.

THEY NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION, WE COULD CODIFY THE REQUIREMENTS.

THE KEY IS WITH THE PERMIT BY RIGHT USES THE ONE'S THAT ONLY REQUIRE A BUSINESS LICENSE.

WE DO HAVE TO CODIFY THOSE CONDITIONS WITH THE ONE'S THAT ARE SUBJECT TO CUP, AND AUP.

WE CAN IMPOSE THOSE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT BUSINESS AND TO ADDRESS.

YEAH. BUT MY CONCERN IS PROVIDING YOU THE POLICY FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHICH TO MAKE THAT.

IF WE MADE IT IN AN AUP AND THERE COULD ALWAYS BE A CATCH ALL WHERE MAYBE IF IT GIVES THE DIRECTOR THE ABILITY TO REFER IT TO A CUP PROCESS, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

BUT I THINK WE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE WITH THE DIFFERENT USES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

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IT'S PARKING. HOW IS THE PARKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO BE AFFECTED? AND WHAT NOISE IS GOING TO COME OUT? EVEN WITH CHILD DAYCARE CENTERS? WE HEARD ONE IN WHEN I WAS ON HARBOR COMMISSION, WHERE A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER WAS DOING AMPLIFIED SOUND ON A BALCONY TO GET THE KIDS OUTSIDE. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD ANTICIPATE ALL THAT, ALL THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO WRITE INTO A CODE.

SO TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CUP THERE.

SO WHAT I ENVISION FOR THOSE ONE'S IS THOSE COULD POTENTIALLY BE SUBJECT TO THE AUP PROCESS, WHICH WOULD STILL REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICING AND GIVE THE CITY THE ABILITY TO CONDITION IT.

BUT IT WOULD BE A LESS EXPENSIVE, MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS.

AND WHAT'S THE PUBLIC NOTICING PEOPLE WITHIN 100FT? OR IS IT JUST A PUBLICATION AGENDA OR IT'S WITHIN 100FT AND POSTED AT THE SITE? WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS CONCERN, WE COULD INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE PUBLISHED ALSO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR CUP.

WE COULD AMEND THE CODE TO. I'M OPEN TO THEM.

I'M ALL FOR STREAMLINING. I WOULD SAY ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS AND WHAT I WITNESSED ON HARBOR COMMISSION WAS THAT CUP'S STAY WITH A BUILDING AND A USE.

SO IF SOMEONE ELSE SOMEBODY NEW COMES IN AND USES IT, THEY JUST GET THE SAME CUP THAT THE PREVIOUS GUY DID.

IT'S A DIFFERENT OPERATING MODEL AND ALL OF THAT AND DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET TO CONSIDER THE UNIQUENESS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY CONCERNED ME IS YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CUP FIRST WENT IN FOR PADDLE HOUSE, NOT ALL THE CONFLICTS WITH SUP'S IN THE HARBOR HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THEY WERE SUP'S WERE A FAIRLY NEW USE WHEN THEY CAME IN.

AND NOW THERE'S A SET OF CRITERIA FOR SAFETY PLACES THEY SHOULD PADDLE AND WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T.

AND WHAT I FOUND WAS, AS NEW APPLICANTS CAME IN WHO WANTED TO OPEN UP LOANS OR RENTALS OF SUP'S, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HARBOR COMMISSION WAS RETICENT TO APPLY THE NEW STANDARDS AND NEW REQUIREMENTS TO THE NEW USER BECAUSE IT WASN'T APPLIED TO PADDLE HOUSE. AND SO THAT SEEMED UNFAIR. SO THEY THEY SCRATCHED THAT OUT.

SO WE ACTUALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE WE WERE AFRAID OF, YOU KNOW, IMPOSING NEW STANDARDS.

AND SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I WAS UP FOR, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PERIODICALLY REVIEW CUP'S TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CURRENT BASED ON CONDITIONS THAT, THAT ARE RELEVANT TODAY, NOT WHAT WAS RELEVANT TEN YEARS AGO OR 15 YEARS AGO.

YES, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND THE USE PERMIT DOES RUN WITH THE LAND.

TYPICALLY, HOWEVER, SOMETHING STAFF COULD INVESTIGATE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE COULD DO, IS HAVE A CONDITION ON FUTURE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT UPON CHANGE OF BUSINESS OWNERSHIP, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR A NEW CUP AND THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE CUP.

SO THEY WOULD BE ACCEPTING THAT CONDITION. AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE THAT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND MAYBE A PERIODIC FIVE YEAR LOOK BY STAFF TO ASSESS HAS SOMETHING CHANGED? WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL. AND I'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THAT PREVIOUSLY WITH CERTAIN USES.

I THINK THE ONE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT IT GETS A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO MANAGE AND ADMINISTER, TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE, REALLY ARCHAIC.

LIKE WE REGULATE SOME BUSINESSES LIKE CAPTAIN JAKE AND HIS RENTALS OF DUFFY'S BUT THERE'S OTHER CHARTER SERVICES DOWN IN THE, IN THE HARBOR THAT ARE GOING ON UNDER THE RADAR.

AND SO WE, THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE NEED MORE CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS AND EQUITABILITY, WHICH GETS TO THE WHAT, WHAT THE HARBOR COMMISSION WAS DISCUSSING.

IS IT FAIR TO APPLY SOMETHING TO A NEW BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVEN'T APPLIED TO THE SAME BUSINESS, THAT IT JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE THE CONFLICTS CAME UP IN THE RESOLUTIONS WERE DEVISED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, AND I DO THINK THE HARBORS ARE DIFFERENT, JUST LIKE AACAP IS A DIFFERENT AREA.

THE HARBOR AND PIER ARE A UNIQUE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG CONGLOMERATION OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND BARS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE SAME COMPACT STANDARD ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, MAYBE RIVIERA VILLAGE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE. I'M SURE MOST OF THE BARS ARE IN CUP'S, AREN'T THEY? I WOULD THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM IS. YEAH. AND, AND THERE IS.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A REASON, YOU KNOW, A BIG CONFLICTS WITH NADJA YEARS AGO THOSE SEEM TO HAVE DISSIPATED.

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I'M NOT SURE HOW THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ENGAGES ON AN AUP VERSUS A CUP AND WE CAN EXPAND ON THE AUP PROCEDURES. WE CAN ALSO AMEND THAT SECTION OF THE CODE THAT OUTLINES LIKE WHAT THE PROCESS IS, WHAT THE NOTICING. SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM TO MODIFY THAT.

YEAH. ONE CHANGE, I'D LIKE TO BE AWARE OF ANY AUP AND CUP'S GOING THROUGH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT WITHIN 100FT, WE GET HIT BY RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE SOMETHING COMING.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. AT LEAST I DON'T. SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW THE AUP PROCESS IS REALLY STAFF REVIEWING THE APPLICATION AND ISSUING A NOTICE THAT WHERE IT'S PENDING APPROVAL.

WE COULD SET UP SOMETHING WHERE MAYBE IT'S LIKE A ZOOM HEARING OR MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE A STAFF HEARING.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE HEARINGS, JUST THE CHANCE TO KNOW IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING IN AND WHAT RESTRICTIONS YOU'RE POTENTIALLY PUTTING ON THEM. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU WHEN YOU NOTICE THIS, THAT'S WHAT YOU PUT OUT OR.

YES, THAT'S WHAT WE IT'D BE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE PROPOSED USE.

AND THEN IF ONE OF US WANT OR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTED TO APPEAL IT, WE COULD WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER RECEIVED AN AUP NOTIFICATION.

ARE YOU SAYING IT'S MAYOR OR AS A RESIDENT AROUND YOU? WELL, I'M SURE IF I WAS A RESIDENT WITHIN 100FT OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED, I WOULD. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR DISTRICTS FROM AN AUP.

SO WE'RE NOT BLINDSIDED BY SOMEBODY WHO'S 100FT AWAY, GETS THE NOTICE AND BLINDSIDES US.

AND MAYBE WE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT SPECIFIC USE AT THAT SPOT AND PREEMPT YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

YEAH, SOMETHING WE COULD BUILD INTO IT. AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'VE NEVER RECEIVED THE AUP NOTICE IS SO FEW USES HAVE THIS PROCESS.

SO THAT COULD BE TOO AND NOTHING'S WITHIN 100FT OF MY HOUSE, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW CUP'S THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION UNLESS I WATCHED THE HARBOR AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

RIGHT. WHICH THAT'S PUBLICLY NOTICED. THAT'S ON ME TO FOLLOW UP, BUT AUP'S WE'D NEVER SEE.

SO THAT'S I'M SORRY I BELABORED THAT, BUT IT'S A PASSIONATE SUBJECT FOR ME AND I DO, I AM PRO-BUSINESS, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESS HERE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.

THERE'S REASON CUP'S EXIST. THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF OUR CUP'S THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED.

AND THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT USES, IT'S HARD TO DEFINE A STANDARD THAT WOULD PRECLUDE ALL THE IMPACTS FOR EVERY USE UNLESS WE START REFINING, YOU KNOW, OUR TYPES OF BUSINESSES. AND I WAS IN THOSE TABLES.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD. THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UPDATE OUR USE CLASSIFICATION LIST. I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME OLD STALE TITLES.

I MEAN, MARC MENTIONED THE TASTING ROOM THAT JUST CONTACTED US.

RIGHT NOW, THAT PROBABLY FALLS UNDER THE BARS AND COCKTAIL LOUNGE DEFINITION, WHEN IN REALITY IT'S A FAR DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE.

SO WE CAN START TO CREATE NEW USE TYPES. WE CAN PROVIDE SPECIFIC RULES FOR THOSE, AND IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO REALLY SEEK MORE CLARITY.

AND I ALSO PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO RULE OUT CAR MAINTENANCE SERVICES EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.

BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE.

I'D HATE TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO HERMOSA AND SPEND MY MONEY IN ANOTHER TOWN ON THAT.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT, THERE'S NO QUESTION. OKAY.

APOLOGIZE TO THE COUNCIL. IT'S JUST A TOPIC I'M PASSIONATE ON.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU MAYOR.

I SAW YOU ROLL YOUR EYES. WELL, I DIDN'T ROLL MY EYES AT THAT, BELIEVE ME.

YEAH. THANK YOU DIRECTOR WIENER, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE ENTIRE COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR.

HOW DO WE STREAMLINE AND ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO NOT ONLY COME TO REDONDO BEACH AND TAKE CHANCES IN REDONDO BEACH, BUT THEN STAY IN REDONDO BEACH. OKAY. KEEP THEIR BUSINESS IN REDONDO BEACH AND THIS HITS THE MARK.

SO MUCH APPRECIATED. AND IF THERE IS A KIND OF AN INITIAL LIST OF, CALL IT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND YOU SHOWED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DIRECTOR WIENER IN YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU COULD GO THROUGH AND RECOMMEND ALMOST IMMEDIATELY CHANGES THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE IN MIND AND HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I KNOW SOME OF THESE MAY BE CLOSER CALLS.

WE COULD WORK THROUGH THAT. BUT THIS IS A GREAT A GREAT START AND A GREAT PATH.

I THINK WE'RE HEADING DOWN. HAPPY TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW THIS.

THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HEARD FROM ARIAS AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO OUR CITY AND HAVE INTERACTED WITH OUR STAFF,

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HERE ARE A FEW CHANGES WE RECOMMEND. THEY'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

THAT MESSAGE HAS BEEN HEARD. AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE HEARS IT TOO.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING IT TO IT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK.

AND I AGREE ALSO WITH SOME OF THE MAYOR'S POINTS ABOUT YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.

AND THE MAYOR AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

THE CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT APPROACHING THAT ISSUE NOW IS IT MAY TIGHTEN THE REINS UP TOO TIGHT AND WE'RE TRYING TO LOOSEN THEM.

AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, SEND THE MESSAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CUP FOR NOW, BUT NOT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S LIKE, WHOA, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I LOVE WAYNE CRAIG, THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WAYNE CRAIG. AND HAVING TO GO THROUGH EVERY CUP CAN BE AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE THINK KIND OF A SCLEROTIC, EXPANSIVE, UNCERTAIN BARRIER. SO I WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT CAREFULLY AND MAYBE BIFURCATE THAT FROM THIS PARTICULAR EXERCISE.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I'M SENSITIVE TO CHALLENGES THAT STAFF MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MANAGE A FLUID PROCESS OF CONSTANTLY MONITORING CUP'S AND LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, HEY, SOMEBODY WANTS TO SELL A BUSINESS. AND THEN THE OWNER SAYS, OH, I LOVE IT.

AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS, WELL, BUT THE CUP I HAVE, YOU HAVE TO GO BEFORE A COMMITTEE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME AND EXPENSE.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BUT SETTING THAT ASIDE, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

I HAVE AN OPEN MIND MAYOR BELIEVE ME, AND I DON'T WANT BUSINESS RUN WILD, BUT I DO WANT TO, AT LEAST INITIALLY, FOCUS ON LOOSENING THE REINS IN A REASONABLE WAY TO ENCOURAGE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MAYBE IN A BOLD WAY AS WELL. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUMP IN MAYOR QUICKLY, WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO WITH THIS EXERCISE IS, IS IDENTIFY KIND OF SOME OBVIOUS IMMEDIATE CHANGES.

YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNCIL REFERS THIS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL GET IN THE ROOM AND WE GO THROUGH THE LIST, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUS, OBVIOUS, OBVIOUS, MAYBE MORE CONTROVERSIAL, OBVIOUS, OBVIOUS, OBVIOUS.

AND MAYBE WE COME BACK AND WE RECOMMENDED AN INITIAL AMENDMENT RIGHT TO CLEAN UP KIND OF WHAT IS CLEAR TO ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, REALLY PLAINLY. AND THEN WE GET TO WORK ON THE ON THE MORE SUBSTANTIVE NUANCES LATER SO WE.

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE EARLY. I DO WORRY IF WE GO FULL SUITE, FULL CODE, ALL USE TYPES, YOU KNOW, WE, I, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD GET BOGGED DOWN.

IT COULD GET WE GOT A LOT OF A LOT OF ANALYTICS IN OUR CREW HERE.

AND I COULD SEE US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE AND I DON'T WANT US TO STALL OBVIOUS PROGRESS THAT I THINK WE COULD ALL COALESCE AROUND EARLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BIFURCATE THE EXERCISE A LITTLE BIT.

IS THERE A WAY TO WHERE YOU HAVE A CONDITIONAL STEP ON WHICH THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH? LIKE IF YOU AGREE TO STC 45, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OPEN WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S A PERMITTED USE.

IF YOU WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT HAVE OUTSIDE NOISE THEN IT'S AN AUP.

INTERESTING POINT. YEAH. WHERE YOU HAVE KIND OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS FOR DIFFERENT OPERATIONS.

WELL, AND MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S IN THE CLARITY OF OUR USE TYPE.

MAYBE IT'S USE TYPES OF X DESCRIPTION OR Y DESCRIPTION? I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO.

IT'S SIMILAR WITH THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

THERE'S TWO TIERS AND ONE TIER CAN BE APPROVED BY STAFF.

THE OTHER TIER GOES BEFORE COUNCIL, AND IT DEPENDS ON VARIOUS FACTORS LIKE NUMBER OF PERFORMERS AND OTHER CRITERIA.

YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH SOME OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.

STC 45 ALL DOORS AND WINDOWS CLOSED. IT'S BY IT'S BY RIGHT, RIGHT.

IT'S IF YOU WANT TO OPEN YOUR DOORS AND WINDOWS OR YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN THE PARKING LOT, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. YEAH. ANYWAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE IN COST TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE AUP CUP, BUT I'M MORE WONDERING WHAT IS THE STAFF TIME COST? THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AUP PROCESS AND A CUP PROCESS.

SO THAT WAS WE DO HAVE DETAILS ON THAT. THAT WAS IN THAT COST OF SERVICES STUDY THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I KNOW THAT THE PRICES ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE WHAT THE TIME IS THE ACTUAL COST.

WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP CUTTING DOWN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ONE.

I THINK WE CUT IT IN HALF FROM WHAT THE TRUE COST IS.

SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND LIKE 6,000 SOMETHING DOLLARS.

[03:10:03]

YEAH. WE LOSE MONEY WITH EVERY CUP. YEAH. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS ALL THE WORK THAT WOULD GO INTO AN AUP ALSO HAS TO GO INTO A CUP PLUS ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATION, ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT PREPARATIONS, HEARINGS, PUBLICATIONS, ETC. SO IT'S A PRETTY DISTINCT TIME SINK. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT.

CUP IS A HEARING. SO THAT. SO THEN WE'RE OUT HERE.

WE'RE ACTIVATING SUPPORT CAST. WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE PRODUCTION FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE APPLICANT TOTAL TIME.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TIME THEY MAKE THEIR FIRST APPLICATION AND LET'S CALL IT APPROVAL OR DECISION FOR THE AUP VERSUS THE CUP PROCESS? YEAH, I WOULD SAY THE AUP WOULD BE IN A MATTER OF 2 TO 3 WEEKS, MAYBE SOONER.

WITH THE CUP'S IT'S PROBABLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAST FEW YEARS HAS AVERAGED ABOUT 3 TO 4 MONTHS TO GET ON A HEARING.

THERE'S SOME LEAD TIME WITH THE NOTICING THAT CAUSES THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE INITIAL COMPLETENESS REVIEW. IT JUST TAKES ABOUT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

YEAH. BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY RARE THAT SOMEBODY SAYS, WOW, I LOVED OPENING A BUSINESS.

REDONDO BEACH IT HAS HAPPENED. I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS ONE CASE, BUT WHAT I NORMALLY HEAR ARE COMPLAINTS LIKE THAT THE COST, THE TIME BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE ON THEIR BUILDING AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE FOUR MONTHS, SIX MONTHS BEFORE THEY EVEN KNOW IF THEY CAN OPEN.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET STARTED. AND, THAT'S A HUGE IMPEDIMENT FOR SOMEBODY TO START.

SO I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING A DEEP DIVE AND FIGURING OUT WHERE STAFF CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT WITH AN AUP INSTEAD OF A CUP.

AND YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT CASES. I'M NOT SAYING THROW OUT ALL THE CUP'S, BUT LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT JOB FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, WHICH HOW DO WE WANT TO ADJUST THIS? WHAT DO WE WANT TO MODIFY IN THE CODE? HOW DO WE REVISIT? YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT MAYOR BROUGHT UP ABOUT.

WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? AND WHAT ABOUT THAT? IF IT'S AN AUP, IT STILL GETS ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT STILL HAS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY, IF WE WANT TO PUT IN SOME SORT OF A REVISIT THE PROCESS, IF IT'S A CUP HAVING TO BE REDONE EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE THAT JUST SAY NO THANKS TO BUSINESS REDONDO BEACH.

AN AUP THEY MIGHT BE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MONTHS OF UNCERTAINTY AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE CITY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST TO HAVE A CUP EVERY FIVE YEARS.

YEAH. THE CONCEPT OF A RENEWAL FOR AN AUP IS A MUCH DIFFERENT BURDEN, YOU KNOW, FOR A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS THAN A RENEWAL OF A CUP.

AND GETTING BACK TO THAT POINT ABOUT HAVING A, LIKE A TERM FOR THE CUP WHERE IT'S ABOUT REEVALUATE EVERY THREE YEARS THAT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AN UPFRONT INVESTMENT.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEY WANT SOME SURETY THAT'S GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATING THERE BEYOND THAT THREE YEARS. SO THAT COULD BE PART OF THAT UNCERTAINTY FACTOR.

AND I'VE HEARD THAT COME UP IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE THERE'S BEEN KIND OF A STANDARD CONDITION THAT BE REEVALUATED EVERY 3 OR 5 YEARS OR SOME SET TERM.

I THINK WHAT SOMETIMES ISN'T OBVIOUS TO A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR A RESIDENT WITH THE CUP, YOU THINK, OH, WHY CAN'T WE JUST GET IT ON THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PROCEDURAL STEPS THAT ARE THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE PUBLIC, NOTICING THE TIMING BY WHICH WE HAVE TO GET IT TO THE NEWSPAPER FOR IT TO ACTUALLY GET PUBLISHED. THE PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE PUBLISHING HAS TO OCCUR PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT THE HEARING IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING.

AND THEN IF YOU MISS ONE SMALL WINDOW OF TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING EVERY MONTH, YOU'RE NOW ROLLING OVER NOW AUTOMATICALLY TO THE NEXT MONTH.

SO IT WHEREAS AN AUP, YOU'RE HAVING DAILY COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF AND YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES, REACT TO ADJUSTMENTS AND SIFT THROUGH NEW DATA.

IT JUST INHERENTLY IT PROVIDES A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PACE.

SO WITH WITH THAT, I'M STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS REPORT.

HAVING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE DO MAYBE A SLIGHTLY MORE THOROUGH DIVE INTO CATEGORIES, LAND USES, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE REDONDO BEACH MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE NOT KNOWN AS BEING A BUSINESS FRIENDLY PLACE.

[03:15:05]

AND THIS, I THINK THIS WOULD PUSH IT A LONG WAY.

IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN SHAVE MONTHS OFF THEIR OPENING.

THANK YOU. I'LL TELL YOU, THE COMPLAINTS I'VE GOT AREN'T CUP COMPLAINTS OR COUNTY HEALTH OR FIRE COMPLAINTS THAT I HEAR MOST OFTEN FROM MOST OF THE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I GET COMPLAINTS, THOSE ARE GENERALLY.

RESTAURANTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT A LOT. HOT TWO TOPICS. RESTAURANTS HAVE TO DEAL. BUT NON RESTAURANTS.

WELL BARS OKAY. NOT NON FOOD AND DRINK ESTABLISHMENTS.

BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW THE KIND OF BUSINESSES, THE DOG GROOMING BUSINESSES THE PILATES STUDIOS.

AND MAYBE WE NARROW THE REVIEWS TO STUFF THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE SUP'S AND YOU KNOW, RENTALS WHERE YOU'RE GOING OUT ON THE WATER OR DOING SOMETHING POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS.

YEAH. AND IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTS TO ADD THE HARBOR AS ANOTHER FOCUS AREA WITH ITS OWN RULES, THEY COULD DO THAT. I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT.

WELL, IT COULD BE EBIKE RENTALS, TOO. YEAH. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE WORKED TOWARDS ACHIEVING THAT BUSINESS FRIENDLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REPUTATION AND STATUS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDRESSED TWO LEGS OF THE STOOL PRETTY SQUARELY.

RIGHT. BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS PLAN CHECK PROCESS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I MEAN, YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE STATS, EXTRAORDINARY IMPROVEMENT THERE, EFFICIENCY, TURNAROUND TIME FRAMES FOR THAT COMPONENT OF IT, CONSTRUCTION AND PERMITTING. WHERE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PROCEDURAL BARRIERS IS JUST BY CODE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF WHICH IS LANDING SQUARELY IN THESE TABLES.

THIS IS THE KIND OF OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST THE THIRD LEG OF THE STOOL AND REALLY GET US.

AND IF WE PUT IN CODE, IT COULD BE A VARIANCE TOO, WHICH HAS A PROCESS.

YEP. THAT ALSO CREATES A BARRIER. YEP. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.

I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE ON THE CUP PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE THAT YOU POINTED OUT WITH THE BEER AND WINE RESTAURANT BAR ON CATALINA IS A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE SEEN ON ARTESIA WHERE SOMEONE'S INTERESTED IN COMING TO REDONDO BEACH, OPENING UP A BUSINESS, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SIGN A LEASE IF THEY CAN'T OPEN THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS BASICALLY DISCOURAGE A LOT OF INVESTMENT.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THOSE, I GUESS, INVESTORS, BUSINESS OWNERS CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CUP OR EVEN THE STAFF'S USE PERMIT PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO SIGN A LEASE OR TO BUY A BUILDING.

WHAT'S INCLUDED? ARE YOU REFERRING TO LIKE THE PROCESS OR WHAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE, WHAT I GUESS WHAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO WHAT STANDARDS THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET? WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF USE? I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.

IF YOU WERE GOING LIKE IF YOU'RE THE BEER AND WINE PLACE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO ASK YOU THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN OPEN? OR IS IT JUST A BLACK BOX? AND YOU FILL IT OUT AND HOPE THE HOPE ALL GOES WELL THREE MONTHS LATER.

WELL, IT'S TYPICALLY TAILORED AROUND THE BUSINESS, ALTHOUGH WE DO USE LIKE FOR A CUP, WE USE STANDARD CONDITIONS OR WE APPLY IT TO OTHER BUSINESS TYPES SIMILAR BUSINESS TYPES THAT GO THROUGH.

THEY WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE ABLE TO GLEAN THAT FROM A DIALOG WITH STAFF.

ASKING STAFF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD IT BE IF THEY HAVE ANY EXAMPLES.

SO AND THEN ALSO WE COULD INCLUDE SOME PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN THE CODE.

WE'RE JUST STATE LIKE UP FRONT, YOU KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND THAT'S A LITTLE MORE CLEAR AS OPPOSED TO JUST KIND OF ON AN IMPROMPTU BASIS.

RIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF, YOU KNOW, AS THAT INVESTOR FIRST FINDS A LOCATION IN REDONDO BEACH, HAS A BUSINESS IDEA THAT THEY WANT TO OPEN AND THEY SEE THAT THERE'S A CUP REQUIRED OR SOME TYPE OF USE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY ON, CAN I MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR, OR CAN I NOT WILL DETERMINE IF THEY SORT OF SPEND ANY TIME EVEN LOOKING FURTHER AT THAT PROPERTY OR THAT LOCATION.

YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE ADVANTAGE WITH THE AUP IS THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD CONNECT WITH STAFF, THEY WOULD GET IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK AND HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT STAFF'S DECISION IS LIKELY GOING TO BE BASED ON THE INFORMATION WHEN IT GOES BEFORE A COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. IT'S VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THERE.

BUT IF THEY'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH STAFF, THEY CAN GET A SENSE OF CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S LIKELY TO GET APPROVED.

AND WE TRY TO DO THAT WITH THE APPLICANTS CURRENTLY.

LIKE WE'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT STAFFS WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STAFF'S DECISION TO AND WITH THE AUP, IT IS APPEALABLE.

SO THERE IS ALWAYS THE POTENTIAL SOMETHING COULD GET APPEALED AND IT COULD GET KICKED INTO THAT CATEGORY.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE OF THE EXCEPTION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

[03:20:04]

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WE MAY WANT TO LIMIT ON ARTESIA.

DO ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES NOW REQUIRE A CUP.

SO THE AUTOMOTIVE, THE LIQUOR STORES, THE MASSAGE PARLORS, THEY.

THEY DO. YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN RESTAURANTS.

ARTESIA. IT'S PRETTY, IT'S UNIQUE. IT'S ONE OF THE ONE AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE THE AUP PROCESS FOR RESTAURANTS ON ARTESIA.

SO BUT YEAH, THE OTHER ONES, IT'S CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WROTE DOWN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER SAID, AND I THINK MAYBE THIS SHOULD BE OUR GOAL. I LOVE OPENING A BUSINESS IN REDONDO BEACH, SO IT JUST KIND OF RESONATED WITH ME. I HOPE WE CAN GET THERE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, DIRECTOR WIENER, FOR REALLY CONTINUED EXCELLENT WORK AND DEDICATION TO STREAMLINING BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT IN REDONDO BEACH AND AND KIND OF BEING AT THE HEAD OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, OUT OF MY EIGHT YEARS ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION THERE WAS NEVER A CUP THAT WAS DENIED. IT WAS NEGOTIATED. AND, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY BUSINESS OWNER COMING BACK AND SAID THAT WAS TOO ONEROUS.

I THOUGHT THE COMMISSION DEALT FAIRLY WITH THEM AND CAME TO TERMS THEY WERE AGREEABLE TO.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT ADDED SOME TIME, I NEVER HEARD A BUSINESS COME BACK AND SAY, WOW, THAT WAS A BAD PROCESS.

THEY MADE HIM AN OFFER THEY COULDN'T REFUSE. YEAH, THEY MADE AN OFFER HE COULDN'T REFUSE.

YEAH. I WOULD SAY IT'S UNCOMMON FOR CUP'S TO GET DENIED.

AND I THINK THE AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THE ONE'S THAT HAVE OR THE ONE THERE'S PROBABLY A GOOD REASON TO DENY IT IN THAT CASE.

I THINK IT'S JUST MORE OF LIKE THE UPFRONT AS THEY'RE TRYING EVEN CONSIDERING OPENING.

I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. CAN WE AT LEAST GET A MOTION BEFORE I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT SO THEY KNOW WHAT TO COMMENT AGAINST? SURE. RECEIVE AND FILE. I MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT AND DIRECT IT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE OR.

AND DIRECT THAT CONSIDER UTILIZING OR UTILIZING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REVIEW OF SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS.

SECOND. OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OF THE THREE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS? ALL RIGHT. I WANT EVERYTHING TO COME TO PLANNING.

MORE CUP'S. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WAYNE CRAIG.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT MENTIONED, I AM. I'M ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT WE CERTAINLY SEE A LOT OF DOG GROOMING APPROVALS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY DIRECTOR WIENER, WHAT DO WE HAVE? THREE LAST YEAR OR FOUR, MAYBE. CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS BEING THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE HAD ONE IN PARTICULAR I KIND OF WANTED TO USE AS AN EXAMPLE, TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE HAVING TO TRY TO GET IN THE CITY. AVENUE E, WHICH IS RIGHT ON PCH, EMBEDDED HALFWAY INTO A HILLSIDE.

JIM AND I BOTH KNOW THAT WE LIVE NEARBY. A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS WAS APPLYING THERE.

IT'S EMBEDDED INTO A HILLSIDE. I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED.

AND THIS IS LIKE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE THAT SHE OPENED. AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AND HELP OUT, BUT THERE WAS THIS ARDUOUS LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE WITH SOUNDPROOFING.

IT HAD THESE NICE WINDOWS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BLOCK THEM ALL OFF NOW. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.

AND THE IRONY IS WITH THE SOUNDPROOFING THAT THEY WERE BEING REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE DOG GROOMING PLACE IS RIGHT NEXT TO A DRY CLEANER WITH MACHINES THAT ARE QUITE LOUD. SO AND IT WAS EMBEDDED INTO A HILLSIDE.

SO, AND THAT THAT WAS A SPECIAL, UNIQUE CASE WHERE THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED TO DO ALL THAT.

AND SO WE MADE CHANGES TO TRY TO HELP OUT THAT BUSINESS OWNER.

ANOTHER ONE WE HAD WAS A GYM THAT WAS IN THE TECH CENTER DOWN OVER HERE.

AND THEY, I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF THEY UNDERSTOOD, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO RESTRICT THEIR HOURS QUITE, QUITE A BIT. NOW THERE ISN'T A PARKING ISSUE IN THAT, IN THAT CENTER.

SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER FOR THEM TO DO IT. SO WE ACTUALLY TOLD THEM, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE OPEN FOR TWO HOURS. YOU CAN BE OPEN EIGHT HOURS. AND THEY WERE LIKE, WOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SO IT'S A WAY OF OPENING UP AND TRYING TO BE MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, COMMENTS THAT THE COMMISSIONER OR I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, I MEANT TO SAY COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE MENTIONED IS THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS SO EASY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT IN THE CITY. AND I MENTIONED THAT FROM PROFESSIONALLY, I'M A REALTOR. I DON'T DO A LOT OF COMMERCIAL WORK. I KNOW CHAD DOES A LOT MORE THAN I DO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE US, BUT WHEN THE COUPLE, THE COUPLE, THE SITUATIONS I WORKED IN IN THE CITY, IT WAS A LITTLE COMPLICATED. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND SAYING, THIS IS YOUR CHECKLIST. BOOM.

[03:25:03]

YOU KNOW, JIM AND I LIVE NEARBY A PLACE WHERE ON SATURDAY NIGHTS, WE GET PEOPLE DRUNK IN THE PARKING LOT.

THEY FALL, IN MY FRONT YARD ALL THE TIME. DO BURNOUTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

NOT ACTUALLY, NOT AS MUCH NOW SINCE THEY PUT THAT DIVIDER THING UP. BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY RELAXING.

IT DOES MAKE SOME SENSE IN SOME SITUATIONS, JUST AS PROVIDED YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL REVIEW.

THANKS. THANKS. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE AND NO ECOMMENTS.

OKAY. ANY OF THE TWO OF YOU LEFT OUT THERE WANT TO TALK TO THIS ITEM? PEER PRESSURE? YEAH. NO PRESSURE. TERESA MITCHELL, DISTRICT FOUR. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CHANGE. I LOOK AT I SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT CODES IN DIFFERENT CITIES RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE PROJECTS IN SIX DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS UNUSUAL ABOUT REDONDO BEACH IS THAT EVERYTHING, ALMOST EVERYTHING IS A DISCRETIONARY PERMIT.

AND THAT'S, I DON'T EXPERIENCE THAT IN ANY OTHER CITY.

I'M NOT DOING ANY PROJECTS IN REDONDO, BUT WHEN OUR ADJOINING CITIES OR OUR ADJACENT CITIES ARE NOT, DON'T HAVE DISCRETIONARY PERMITS, IT'S, A MATTER OF SIX MONTHS OF A SIX MONTH TIMELINE.

BECAUSE WHEN I GO BACK TO MY CLIENTS, WHEN I SAY, HEY, WE'RE IT'S A DISCRETIONARY PERMIT.

HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE? I TELL THEM SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

IT'S A DEAL BREAKER. IT CLOSES THE DOOR. AND AND THAT'S THE REALISTIC IS, IS A DISCRETIONARY PERMIT IS GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, WHEREAS A MINISTERIAL PERMIT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING ENGINEERING TIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

ENGINEERING TIME IS GOING TO BE A MINISTERIAL PERMIT WILL BE 3 TO 5 MONTHS.

AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR A NEW BUSINESS OR FOR A BUILDING OR A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO ESPECIALLY WITH ARTESIA AND AVIATION CORRIDOR, WHEN SOMEONE CAN LITERALLY GO ACROSS THE STREET TO HERMOSA AND NOT HAVE THOSE, OR IN TORRANCE OR LAWNDALE OR HAWTHORNE. I THINK IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT HAVING MORE OF A MINISTERIAL TABLE WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. AND I, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THESE CODES AS MUCH, BUT USUALLY MOST OF THE CODE IS A P WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE TABLES.

IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS NOTHING WAS PERMITTED.

IN FACT, IT WAS LOOKING AT THIS, THIS. AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

WHY WOULD WE HAVE THIS MANY? SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT CHANGE.

AND, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING MORE BUSINESSES AND BRING MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE ARTESIA AVIATION CORRIDOR.

THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ONLINE? THERE ARE NO. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY.

I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

ALL FOR IT. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU.

[O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS]

WE ARE. WE'VE GOT A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.

WE'LL HAVE TWO AT LEAST PRIMARY ITEMS. MAYBE A THIRD.

WE ARE DISCUSSING THE SEASIDE LAGOON PROJECT AS, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE THE ACFR SUBCOMMITTEE, OUR AUDIT SUBCOMMITTEE, WE ARE LIKELY TO HAVE THAT MEETING PRECEDE THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY.

SO WE ARE PLANNING TO, I BELIEVE, RECEIVE OUR FINAL DOCUMENTS FOR THE 24-25 ACFR.

WILL THAT BE A SEPARATE MEETING OR WILL WE BE.

IT'S A SEPARATE THE AUDIT COMMITTEES. CONVENE AND RECONVENE. NO, NO, IT WILL BE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WILL BE AS SCHEDULED SEPARATE MEETING.

SO IT WON'T IT WON'T AFFECT HOW YOU AGENDIZE THIS EVENING.

THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC. IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

IT WILL BE AGENDIZED AS A SPECIAL AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING.

YEAH. BUT TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO HAVE THAT AT LIKE 3:00 THE DAY OF THE COUNCIL MEETING ACTION.

SO JUST EARLY WARNING ON THAT. YOU'LL HEAR FROM STEPHANIE ON THE SPECIFICS.

AND THE LAGOON OBVIOUSLY IS ALSO GOING TO BE THE DISCUSSION ON IT.

WE ARE PLANNING TO BE DARK ON THE 22ND. AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, NO COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY THE 22ND.

AND THEN LAST REMINDER FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE PARTICIPATING, WE WILL HAVE OUR COMMISSION ORIENTATION IN HERE IN THE CHAMBERS AT ON THE 29TH OF THE MONTH. SO, IS THAT AT NORMAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TIMES OR IS THIS.

IT IS. YEAH. I THINK USUALLY WE SCHEDULE IT FOR 6:00.

ELEANOR IS GOING TO I DON'T KNOW DEREK IF YOU KNOW, I THINK AT 6:00 IS WHAT THE INVITATION IS GOING OUT. SO THAT'S OUR UPCOMING CALENDARING

[03:30:04]

THANK YOU. NOW JUMPING DOWN TO REFERRALS TO STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

[Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF]

THAT WOULD BE EBIKES, SCOOTERS, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF A VEHICLE, OBVIOUSLY NOT ADA TYPES OF VEHICLES BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALLOWED ANYWHERE THEY CAN GO.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS NO BICYCLES ARE ALLOWED ON THE SIDEWALK.

IF WE COULD HAVE IT SO THAT EBIKES, SCOOTERS, OTHER, OTHER KINDS OF MOTORIZED VEHICLES ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE SIDEWALKS AS THE GENERAL POLICY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT SIGNS.

I GET COMPLAINTS FROM RIVIERA VILLAGE BECAUSE SOME KID ON AN EBIKE ZIPS THROUGH BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT AND THE DINING DECK AND NEARLY HITS PEOPLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE. RESIDENTS THAT HAVE EBIKES THAT ALMOST HIT THEM ON THE SIDEWALK.

I'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COMPLAIN HERE. I'VE HAD NUMEROUS PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO ME.

TORRANCE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER GOT HIT BY AN EBIKE.

YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS A LOT OF EBIKES HITTING PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALKS.

AND SO IF WE COULD MAKE IT SO THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND.

HOLD ON WHAT SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR INITIALLY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO JUST LOOK AT.

THE QUESTION IS, BEFORE WE GET INTO A. I NEED AN OPINION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY FIRST OR THEN OKAY, THEN MY MOTION WOULD BE TO HAVE A REFERRAL TO STAFF TO REVISIT OUR POLICY TO PROHIBIT MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON SIDEWALKS.

DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE PUBLIC SAFETY MAKE IT PUT UP THE SIGNS IN THE RIVIERA VILLAGE.

OH. I HATE PUTTING UP SIGNS. I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION HERE.

OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE DISCUSSION? SINCE THERE SEEMS TO BE INTEREST FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES? CAN WE SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY COMMISSION TO HAVE THEM TAKE A FIRST LOOK AT THIS? SURE I'D BE. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO THEM FIRST.

YEAH, A MOTION. SO MY SECOND AMEND MY MOTION TO SEND TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION PWSSC OKAY. PROHIBITION OF. DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

WE DO AND. OKAY. ARE YOU CONTEMPLATING A CARVE OUT FOR CHILDREN WHO FEEL SAFER ON THE SIDEWALK OR THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION? THAT COULD BE PART OF IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS A SAFE.

CHILDREN YOUNGER THAN 13 ON E-BIKES, BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE WE CAN GET AND INCLUDING IN JUST PART OF THE REFERRAL.

IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR DISCUSSION, LET'S NOT DISCUSS AND WHETHER RIVIERA VILLAGE SPECIFICALLY CAN BAN IT WITHOUT PUTTING UP SIGNS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, ASSUMING THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER LAYER. IT COULD BE THE COMMISSION COULD EXPLORE.

YEAH. OKAY. MOTION IN A SECOND WITHOUT. WELL, ALL OF THAT'S ENCOMPASSED.

IS THAT SOMEBODY JOTTING THAT DOWN OVER THERE? OKAY. ALL FOR ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. NOTHING TONIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS ABOUT PROCESS TRANSPARENCY. WE'VE HAD A FEW RESIDENTS COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND WE KNOW THAT THE REQUESTS ARE SIGNIFICANT.

I THINK WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM CLARITY. AND MAYBE A MORE REFINED FRAMEWORK OF HOW THAT HAPPENS. AND YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. HAPPY TO, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, WE ARE ADJUSTING OUR CLERK'S OFFICE AND CONSULTATION WITH MY TEAM AND JOY'S TEAM. WE'RE WORKING TO HELP IDENTIFY WAYS TO STREAMLINE AND PROVIDE A VERY CONSISTENT CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSE TO HELP MANAGE EXPECTATIONS.

THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF REQUESTS IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND IT'S, THE VOLUME IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN IMMEDIATELY PROCESS.

SO WE'RE WORKING TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO CREATE A, A CLEAR, FAIR KIND OF FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE PROCESS THAT WE CAN PUBLICIZE, THAT WE CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, HOLD OUR OWN INTERNAL TEAM ACCOUNTABLE FOR AND HELP MANAGE THE REQUESTERS EXPECTATIONS FOR RESPONSE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THAT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS. WE'VE GOT SOME ONLINE TOOLS, SOME SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING HERE AND TESTING INTERNALLY RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

SO YEAH, I THINK A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

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I'LL SECOND IT ON THE BASIS THAT WE ALSO GET A PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON WHAT THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS ARE.

THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUEST.

SO THE PUBLIC HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LIMITS TO THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS ON THAT FRONT.

YEAH, THAT WAS AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY POINT, TOO. SO YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. YES.

SO YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF WHAT WE'VE INTERNALLY DISCUSSED. AND THAT IS THE BASIS FOR OUR PROTOCOL AND PROGRAM.

THAT'S THE IMPETUS SO THAT WE CAN BE VERY TRANSPARENT.

RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S A BALANCE AS TO WHAT LEGALLY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ADVICE OF THE ATTORNEY CAN BRING THAT WHEN IT COMES UP.

SO DISCUSS IT. ALL FOR. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? JUST CLARITY ON THE TIMING OF THAT WHEN IT WOULD BE REALISTIC TO HAVE THAT.

QUESTION. EARLIEST WOULD BE OCTOBER, PROBABLY NOVEMBER.

YEAH. I MEAN, JUST WITH THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, SO. FINE. YEAH. NOVEMBER. COUPLE MONTHS. NOTICE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REACTION.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. DO WE NEED A REFERRAL TO HAVE THE AUDIO FIXED IN THE LIBRARY? SECOND FLOOR MEETING ROOM. NO, THAT'S NOT THE LAST RETIREMENT OR EVENT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE.

AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD IT THAT BAD.

SO YEAH, THEY CAN PROBABLY FIX IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FEEDBACK WAS TONIGHT. IT'S TOO MANY MICROPHONES ON OR SOMETHING.

THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG THERE. ALSO, SHOULD IT HAVE TO HOLD, THE SPEAKER SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HOLD THE MICROPHONE WHEN THERE'S A MICROPHONE SITTING ON THE LECTERN. LECTERN MICROPHONE SHOULD WORK. IT SEEMS TO WORK REALLY WELL IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT JUST TODAY. YEAH. IT'S STRANGE. SOMETHING ABOUT THAT LOCATION.

WHAT DO YOU NEED, A REFERRAL? NO. OKAY. I JUST NEED TO MAKE A NOTE TO REMIND STAFF TO LOOK AT IT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND NONE FROM ME. COULD I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED. SECOND. AND WE'RE ADJOURNING TO FOUR O'CLOCK.

I'LL ADJOURN. YEAH 4:00. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL FOR IT.

AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED TO 4 P.M..

CLOSED SESSION 6 P.M.. OPEN SESSION ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026.

RIGHT HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

I LIKE HOW YOU SAY I'LL ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.