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WHATEVER THEY SHOULD BE ON. CALL TO ORDER THE 4 P.M.

[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

[00:00:06]

CLOSED SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT.

PRESENT. LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR THE CLOSED SESSION? THERE ARE NO BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE. IS ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND NON AGENDA ITEMS? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ON ZOOM AND NO ECOMMENTS FOR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS.

[E. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION]

OKAY. WOULD YOU MIND READING OFF WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING E, ITEMS E.1 THROUGH E.10, PLEASE? AS AUTHORIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE AS LISTED ON THE PUBLIC CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING CLOSED SESSION ITEMS E ONE.

CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE OF PHILIP MACK VERSUS THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND DOES 1 THROUGH 20 INCLUSIVE.

CASE NUMBER 24TRCV03382. E.2. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND LABOR NEGOTIATOR FOR THE REDONDO BEACH PROFESSIONAL AND SUPERVISORY ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE ITEM E THREE CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR FOR PROPERTY AT 400 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA 90277 A PORTION OF APN AIN 7503-013-901.

E.4. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT 206 FISHERMAN'S WHARF, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. 90277. A PORTION OF APN AIN 7505-002-933.

ITEM E.5 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE OF NEW COMMUNE DTLA LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ET AL. CASE NUMBER B 337897. ITEM E.6 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE NEW COMMUNE DTLA LLC VERSUS CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100 INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23STCV10146.

ITEM E.7 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE OF 9300 WILSHIRE LLC VERSUS THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 100 INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23STCP02189. ITEM E.8 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE OF YES IN MY BACKYARD, A CALIFORNIA NONPROFIT CORPORATION, SONJA TRAUSS AN INDIVIDUAL VERSUS THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CITY OF REDONDO BEACH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DOES 1 THROUGH 25 INCLUSIVE CASE NUMBER 23TRCP00325.

ITEM E.9 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE 9300 WILSHIRE LLC BANKRUPTCY CD CAL CASE NUMBER 2-23-BK-10918-ER AND THEN ITEM E.10 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, EXISTING LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE IN REGARDS TO 9300 WILSHIRE LLC. (9300 WILSHIRE LLC ET AL.

VERSUS AES-REDONDO BEACH LLC) BANKRUPTCY CD CAL CASE NUMBER 2-:23-AP-0163-ER.

AND THAT IS ALL MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY.

WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THESE ITEMS IN CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. MYSELF FOR ALL ITEMS. ALSO, JOY FORD, CITY ATTORNEY AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CHERYL PARK.

FOR ITEM E.1 WE WILL HAVE CHUCK, MICHELLE AND SEAN BRADY OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL.

FOR ITEM E.2 WE WILL BE JOINED BY DIANE STRICKFADEN, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS LAURA KALTY OUR OUTSIDE LABOR NEGOTIATOR, FOR ITEMS E.3 THROUGH E.4 WE WILL HAVE WATERFRONT COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR ELIZABETH HAUSE AND WATERFRONT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER KATHERINE BUCK.

FOR ITEMS E.5 THROUGH E.10 WE WILL BE JOINED BY JON WELNER ABBY O'BRIENT AND GINETTA GIOVINCO, ALL OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION PLEASE? MOVE TO RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. WE ARE RECESSED. WE WE WE WILL BE BACK ON OR ABOUT 6:00 TO REPORT OUT ANY ACTIONS THAT ARE REPORTABLE FROM CLOSED SESSION.

AND THEN TO START OUR NORMAL OPEN SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. OPEN SESSION FROM CLOSED SESSION. COULD I GET A ROLL CALL,

[F. RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION]

PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI.

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HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT.

HERE. CITY MANAGER WITZANSKY, ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION?

[H. ANNOUNCEMENT OF CLOSED SESSION ACTIONS]

NO REPORTABLE ACTIONS THIS EVENING, MAYOR. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COULD I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR REGULAR OPEN SESSION MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, THAT'S 4 TO 0, ONE ABSENT.

OKAY. NOW I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE 6 P.M.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

OPEN SESSION REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

COULD I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY IN THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR SERVICE.

ANYBODY OUT THERE THIS EVENING? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN.

I'D LIKE TO ASK US TO ALL STAND FOR THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG, AND THEN PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

AFTERWARDS, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP TARYN, WHO WILL LEAD US TODAY IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

TARYN THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TARYN.

I AM A SEVENTH GRADER AT PARRAS MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I LOVE HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS AND PLAYING SPORTS LIKE BASKETBALL, FLAG FOOTBALL, DANCE AND SURFING IN REDONDO BEACH.

PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. IF YOU COULD ALL REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT INVOCATION, PLEASE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. TARYN GREAT JOB.

GREAT JOB. GOOD JOB.

HOLD UP. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? MOM, GET A PICTURE OF BOTH OF YOU UP HERE.

COME ON UP. TWO. THREE. ONE. TWO. THREE. OKAY, COME ON UP.

THANK YOU. ONE. TWO. THREE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL DONE.

[D. PRESENTATIONS/PROCLAMATIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ AB 1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS]

OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING DOWN TO ITEM D ON THE AGENDA PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND AB1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS. I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. TONIGHT IT IS MY HONOR TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH. WE'VE INVITED THE CERVANTES CLUB FROM REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL BAND CALL UP MISS SARAH GONZALEZ, THE ADVISOR TO THE CERVANTES GROUP AND SPANISH TEACHER AT RUHS, TOGETHER WITH THE CERVANTES CLUB CABINET MEMBERS.

COME ON DOWN. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GREAT TO SEE ALL YOU GUYS. HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE HISTORY, CULTURE, TRADITIONS, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR STATE, AND IN OUR NATION. REDONDO BEACH HAS BECOME AN INCREASINGLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE YEARS.

IN 1990, APPROXIMATELY 11% OF REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS IDENTIFIED AS HISPANIC OR LATINO.

TODAY, THE U.S. CENSUS ESTIMATES THAT APPROXIMATELY 15% OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE HISPANIC OR LATINO.

THESE NUMBERS REPRESENT MORE THAN STATISTICS.

THEY REPRESENT FAMILIES, NEIGHBORS, BUSINESS OWNERS, STUDENTS, EDUCATORS, AND COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO CONTRIBUTE EVERY DAY TO MAKING REDONDO BEACH THE WONDERFUL COMMUNITY IT IS TODAY.

AND TONIGHT, I'M ESPECIALLY PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE HELPING CELEBRATE AND PRESERVE THAT CULTURE AND LANGUAGE.

THE CERVANTES CHAPTER AT REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL IS PART OF THE.

[00:10:04]

I'M GOING TO TRY THIS IN ESPANOL, BUT. THE SOCIEDAD HONORARIA HISPANICA.

DID I DO OKAY? THE SPANISH NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY.

FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, CERVANTES HAS RECOGNIZED RUHS STUDENTS FOR THEIR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE SPANISH LANGUAGE AND HISPANIC CULTURE. THEIR WORK DEMONSTRATES THAT LEARNING A LANGUAGE IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN WORDS.

IT IS ABOUT BUILDING CONNECTIONS, UNDERSTANDING DIFFERENT CULTURES, AND STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY.

TO THE MEMBERS OF THE RUHS CERVANTES CLUB, THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING YOUR SCHOOL AND OUR CITY SO WELL.

WE ARE PROUD OF YOU AND THE EXAMPLE YOU ARE SETTING FOR OTHERS.

CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WISH WITH THAT, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF REDONDO CITY COUNCIL AND MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR YOUR CLUB WITH THIS PROCLAMATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

WE ARE VERY THANKFUL. WE ARE VERY PROUD AND EXCITED TO BE HERE.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO QUICKLY MENTION MY CABINET.

THESE ARE VERY DEDICATED STUDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE GROUP.

THEY HAVE TAKEN AP SPANISH LANGUAGE AND CULTURE.

SOME OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY TAKING THE AP SPANISH LITERATURE.

THEY'RE VERY DRIVEN STUDENTS AND THEY DO SO MUCH FOR OUR SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY I HAVE HERE GISELLE PEREZ LOPEZ, SOFIA PEREZ, RYAN CHAVES, I HAVE HERE SOFIA QUEVEDO, VIVIANA SANTANA, JIMENA FUREY, AND GISELLE PALACIOS. AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

WELL THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WOULD ANY OF THE KIDS LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK? SURE. HELLO, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS SOFIA PEREZ, AS SEÑORA GONZALEZ MENTIONED.

AND IT IS SUCH AN HONOR FOR US TO BE RECOGNIZED HERE TODAY.

I FEEL AS THOUGH HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS EXACTLY JUST ABOUT SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SHARING WITH THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WITH EVERYONE IN REDONDO BEACH WHO SUPPORTS US SUPPORTS THE SCHOOLS.

SOME OF YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO TO REDONDO SCHOOLS, REDONDO UNION, AND IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS OUR CULTURE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHERE WE LEARN.

THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU FEEL WELCOME AND RESPECTED.

ONE. TWO. THREE. ONE. TWO. THREE.

YOU CAN COME FORWARD. TAKE A PICTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HI. THANK YOU.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE OUR YOUTH OUT HERE EXCELLING. AND I LOVE RECOGNIZING KIDS WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING INTO THE REST OF THE PROCLAMATIONS.

WE'RE DONE WITH THAT. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND AB1234 TRAVEL EXPENSE REPORTS.

I'LL START OUT. I DID ATTEND THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS RHNA SUBCOMMITTEE.

I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS NOT GOOD NEWS. OUT OF THAT.

I THINK WE CAN EXPECT A BIG RHNA NUMBER THIS YEAR.

THE ONLY GOOD NEWS IS THEY'RE STARTING EARLY AND THE CYCLE WON'T OPEN UP.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OUR HOUSING ELEMENT COMPLETE UNTIL APRIL 2030.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WE'RE STARTING EARLY AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT EXTENDED ON THE END.

WE HAD A GREAT 9/11 MEMORIAL OUT HERE. I WANT TO THANK OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR SETTING THAT, THAT, THAT UP. CHIEF REGAN CHIEF SPRENGEL, FOR YOUR SPEECH UP THERE, YOUR SPEECHES.

[00:15:03]

IT WAS A GREAT CEREMONY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, THERE'S SOME GREAT VIDEO UP THERE ON OUR PD AND FIRE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES.

I HAD THE HONOR OF HELPING START THE KINGS FIVE K AND RIVIERA VILLAGE THIS WEEKEND.

IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED AND IT WAS GREAT WEATHER.

LATER IN THE DAY I WAS DOWN AT SEASIDE LAGOON FOR CAL WATER'S 100TH ANNIVERSARY.

AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A, A GREAT CELEBRATION.

I APPRECIATE THEM PUTTING THAT ON FOR THE FOR ALL THE CITIES THEY SERVE.

AND THE FACT THAT WAS HERE IN REDONDO, WE HAD ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM ACROSS THE REGION HERE ENJOYING SEASIDE LAGOON ON A GREAT DAY.

AND THEN SUNDAY WE HAD OUR ANNUAL SWIM THE AVENUES, WHICH WAS KICKED OFF BY MY PREDECESSOR.

IT WAS A VISION OF MY PREDECESSOR, MAYOR BILL BRAND.

AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT RICK CRUMP HAS PICKED UP THE BALL AND IS RUNNING THAT FOR ITS EIGHTH STRAIGHT YEAR.

AND IT WAS SOLD OUT A WEEK BEFORE THE RACE. SO I THINK SOME PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GET IN AND COULDN'T.

SO BUT IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MAYBE EXPANDING IT NEXT YEAR.

SO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY THE LIFEGUARDS AND SUPPORT OF THAT.

I DID GET TO MEET WITH ONE OF OUR COASTAL COMMISSIONERS.

I'VE ALSO MET WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER AL MURATSUCHI AND SENATOR BEN ALLEN.

BOTH OF THEM WANT FOLLOW UP MEETINGS, WHICH I WILL BE HAVING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS HERE IN REDONDO BEACH SO I APPRECIATE THEM PAYING ATTENTION TO REDONDO BEACH AND AS THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. LAST WEDNESDAY, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SPEAKING TO A COMBINED CLASS OF MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AT PARRAS MIDDLE SCHOOL ABOUT MY CAREER AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND I HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT E-BIKES AND REGULATIONS.

IT WAS QUITE SURPRISING TO HEAR THEIR VIEWS ON IT.

WEREN'T SO FAR APART FROM STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

ON THURSDAY, A BUSY DAY, I ATTENDED THE NRBBA RISE AND SHINE REDONDO, WHERE WE HEARD FROM ED LYNCH OF MICHAEL'S LEARNING PLACE ABOUT HOW HIS NONPROFIT BUILDS THE SKILLS AND CONFIDENCE THAT LEADS TO GREATER INDEPENDENCE FOR YOUNG ADULTS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

NEXT WAS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NETWORK CAFE.

I WAS ABLE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ABOUT MEASURE FP STATUS MEASURE ART, AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCAL TRAVEL NETWORK.

AND THEN ON THURSDAY, I ALSO HAD A RIBBON CUTTING FOR RAQUEL BUTLER INSURANCE.

SHE'S ONE OF OUR NEWEST TENANTS OUT ON PIER PLAZA.

MAYOR MENTIONS SWIM THE AVENUES AND THE 9/11 CEREMONY.

YESTERDAY I GOT A BRIEFING FROM LA COUNTY ON COASTAL RESILIENCE.

THE MOST EXCITING, ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IS A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FOR BEACH NOURISHMENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE PIER AND TOPAZ BEACH.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE OR TOPAZ JETTY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING 200,000 OR 300,000YD³ OF SAND BY EARLY 2028, WHICH IS FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF SAND THAT THEY DID THE LAST TIME THEY DID IT.

AND THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A DUNE RESTORATION, WHICH WOULD HELP KEEP THE SAND FROM COMING UP ONTO THE BIKE PATH.

I'LL BE HOLDING MY NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, 7 P.M.

IT'S GOING TO BE VIRTUAL ONLINE, YOU CAN SIGN UP THROUGH MY WEBSITE, THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE.

AND I HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN MY NEWSLETTER. AND THEN LATE NEXT WEEK, I AND A NUMBER OF US HERE, IF NOT ALMOST EVERYBODY, WILL BE ATTENDING LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN ANAHEIM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. I ATTENDED ON THURSDAY THE 9/11 MEMORIAL SERVICE, AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

AND THEN ON FRIDAY, I ATTENDED THE LAST CRUZIN' THE LAGOON FOR THE SUMMER SEASON.

AND THE NEXT EVENT THAT THEY WILL HAVE WILL BE THEIR CHRISTMAS CRUISE.

THAT IS ON DECEMBER 12TH AS PART OF THE BOAT PARADE CELEBRATION DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. YEAH. I WANT TO THANK THE POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE 9/11 EVENT. ALWAYS NICE TO SEE AND WELL ATTENDED THIS YEAR.

THIS WEEK I'LL BE ATTENDING THE LACAHSA BOARD MEETING, WHICH IS DISCUSSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING USING MEASURE A DOLLARS.

I'LL ALSO BE ATTENDING THE SOUTH BAY AEROSPACE ALLIANCE BOARD MEETING AND THE SOUTH BAY REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST MEETING.

ALL HAPPENING THIS WEEK. AND I SEE THAT ON THIS SATURDAY, THE 19TH WILL BE THE SECOND GEORGE FREETH WATER POLO EVENT HERE IN THE HARBOR.

SO THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER GREAT EVENT. OKAY. THAT'S NEWS TO ME.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. I DID GET INTERVIEWED BY SF GATE ON GEORGE FREETH.

[00:20:01]

SO THAT WAS AN HONOR TO GET. I SAW THAT ARTICLE.

REDONDO GOT NOTICED FOR FOR OUR OUR GEORGE FREETH HISTORY.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE BEACH AND SURF CULTURE PRE GEORGE FREETH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING THAN AFTER GEORGE FREETH.

SO WE WERE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HIM HERE WAY BACK WHEN AND I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE HIM MORE.

SO I'M PLEASED THIS, THIS COMPETITION IS GOING TO RECOGNIZE HIM AT OUR SECOND ANNUAL.

THAT'S RIGHT. OH, THERE'S ONE MORE THING WE GOT.

FUNCTIONAL ZERO. DID YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT? OH, YES.

WE'VE BEEN CERTIFIED FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE HAVE SUSTAINED FUNCTIONAL ZERO HOMELESSNESS IN REDONDO BEACH.

MEANING WE ARE HOUSING FOLKS FASTER THAN THEY ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

THE, THE METRIC THAT WE'VE USED IS THAT THEY SPEND LESS THAN 90 DAYS ON THE, ON THE STREETS.

AND THIS LAST ASSESSMENT DEEMED THAT THEY WERE 17 DAYS WAS THE AVERAGE THAT SOMEONE SPENT ON THE STREET.

SO A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT ONE THAT HAS NOT MET ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.

SO, SO THANKS TO ALL OUR FOLKS IN THE CITY WORKING HOMELESSNESS, WE CONTINUE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE EXCELLENCE OF THE.

NOT JUST THOSE WORKING IN HOMELESSNESS. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OUT OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE, FIRE, EVERYONE IN THE CITY WORKS ON THIS EFFORT.

EVERYBODY'S ROWING TOGETHER. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. NO MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

JUST WANTED TO THANK OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING TREMENDOUS PUBLICITY ABOUT THEIR WORK IN THE CITY.

IN ADDITION TO THEIR GREAT WORK ON OUR BIKE PATHS AND OUR LIGHT TRAVEL NET, LOCAL TRAVEL NETWORK THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE HAS TAKEN OFF IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT AND IT'S EDUCATIONAL AND MAKES US APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THEY PROVIDE.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, WHICH IS AN EXCLUSIVE EVENT.

YEAH. WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 6 P.M. AT THE REDONDO BEACH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZEIN OBAGI JR. AND MYSELF WILL BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY EVENT WITH OUR ONE AND ONLY NEW FIRE CHIEF, BRIAN REGAN. SO DOES THAT QUALIFY AS A PILLARS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AGAIN? A NEW PILLAR. NEW PILLAR, NEW PILLAR. CHIEF REGAN WILL BE SHARING HIS PRIORITIES FOR OUR CITY, TAKING QUESTIONS, PROVIDING ANSWERS, RECEIVING RESIDENT INPUT, AND MUCH MORE.

SO WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE. AND WE WILL BE SERVING REFRESHMENTS.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. THIS WILL BE AN INCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE EVENT, RIGHT? INCLUSIVE, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL. MAYOR. AND SINCE YOU'RE NEW, DO YOU MIND STANDING UP, CHIEF REGAN? SO TURN AROUND AND GIVE CHIEF A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. OKAY.

[E. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

WITH THAT, I'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM E, APPROVE THE ORDER OF AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO MOVE ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? I'VE GOT ONE REQUEST, MAYOR. WE'RE GOING TO DELAY ITEM H.8 UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.

SO WE'RE WE'RE RESPECTFULLY WITHDRAWING THAT FROM THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

OKAY. ANY OTHER CHANGES? H.8. JUST CLARIFYING.

YOU'RE PULLING IT UNTIL WHEN? THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.

YEAH. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. SO AS LONG AS YOU APPROVE THE REORDERED AGENDA.

YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO MOVE ANYTHING? OKAY. SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO PULL H.8 UNTIL OCTOBER.

THE FIRST MEETING. THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. AND THE. SECOND.

AGENDA AS IS. FIRST I MOVE, SO MOVED IN. OKAY.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. THIS IS. WE'RE JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM G FOR THOSE OF YOU FOLLOWING DO WE HAVE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS?

[G. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIALS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING? YES, MAYOR, WE HAVE THREE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE RELATED TO ITEM H.13, WHICH IS A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF A GRANT AWARD PACKAGE AND CONDITIONS AND CERTIFICATIONS AND ASSURANCES STATEMENT WITH THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 AT BURN MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT.

WE ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS FOR ITEM J.1, WHICH IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE A, FOR ITEM N.1 A LETTER FROM THE HARBOR COMMISSION WORK AND PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING APPROVING THE FINAL PREPARATION AND SUBMITTAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT.

THAT IS ALL MAYOR. MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND.

I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

[H. CONSENT CALENDAR]

NOW WE'RE JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM H. THIS IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH WE TYPICALLY APPROVE IN MASS UNLESS ANY OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PULL ANY ITEM.

WE'VE ALREADY PULLED ITEM H.8 FOR AND CONTINUING IT TO OCTOBER.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.20?

[00:25:06]

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL H.19, PLEASE. OKAY. ANY OTHERS? JUST A COMMENT. NOT PULLING SOMETHING. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK AGAIN OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR H.7 BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE CONTRACTING TO REPAINT THE ARTESIA BRIDGE TRAIN BRIDGE. THAT'S JUST EAST OF INGLEWOOD AVENUE.

IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT TRAIN BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, IT DESPERATELY, DIRELY NEEDS REPAINTING.

AND I'M SO GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPENING NOW. SO THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE H.1 THROUGH H.20 EXCLUSIVE OF H.8 AND H.19.

SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE, WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.20 EXCEPT H.8 OR H.19? NOBODY IN. OKAY. GO AHEAD. COME ON UP. WE HAVE NO CARDS, RIGHT? YES. THERE'S ONE CARD FOR EACH. OH, OKAY. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. LESLIE. LESLIE. DISTRICT TWO HARBOR COMMISSIONER.

FOR ITEM H.20. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE.

IN THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN, THE CITY'S NUMBER ONE THREE YEAR PRIORITY IS ECONOMIC VITALITY, WITH THE NUMBER ONE GOAL BEING ENHANCE THE WATERFRONT.

SINCE THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, CITY HAS UNFUNDED THE WATERFRONT DIRECTOR POSITION, WHICH SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND TROUBLING IN REGARDS TO THIS STRATEGIC PLAN.

ITEM 6, IT'S IN ITEM H 20. MUNICIPAL CODE IS MENTIONED PERTAINING TO THE HARBOR AND ITEM 9 ENHANCING EXTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS.

WE HAD DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT, THE HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING ON WHERE FISHING IS ALLOWED AND DISALLOWED.

GIVEN THE ONE, TWO, THREE YEAR HIGH PRIORITY OF ENHANCING THE WATERFRONT, IDENTIFYING AND MESSAGING WHERE LOCALS AND TOURISTS ALIKE CAN FISH IS IN LINE WITH THESE OBJECTIVES. DESIGNATION IS AN AUTHORITY GIVEN TO THE WATERFRONT DIRECTOR, AND THIS PART OF OUR CITY TAKES A UNIQUE CONSIDERATION AND EXPERTISE AND UNDERSTANDING TO PERFORM THE DUTY WELL.

IT HIGHLIGHTS THAT ONE OF JUST ONE OF THE MANY IMPORTANT REASONS WHY MAINTAINING A STRONG WATERFRONT DIRECT DEPARTMENT AND A WATERFRONT DIRECTOR IS KEY, AND I RECOGNIZE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO FEEL IMPORTANT TO BRING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGERS TO LIGHT TONIGHT.

I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS H.20 ITEM THREE THAT WAS WITH REGARD TO THE BOAT RAMP.

HARBOR COMMISSION WAS UNAWARE OF THE DETAILS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THAT OF REDUCING, REVISING THE DESIGN REDUCES THE PROJECT COST FROM 16.8 MILLION TO 8.7 MILLION, PRIMARILY BY ELIMINATING A WALL AND REPLACEMENT AND THE COMBINED BASIN THREE PUBLIC RESTROOM BUILDING AND MODIFYING THE BOAT LAUNCH TO MEET GRANTOR'S REQUIRED 20 YEAR LIFESPAN INSTEAD OF A 50 YEAR ORIGINAL PLANNED LIFESPAN.

NO DETAILS WERE SHARED WITH THE HARBOR COMMISSION OR THE BOAT RAMP SUBCOMMITTEE TO DATE WITH RESPECT TO THOSE CHANGES.

BUT THOSE REMARKS SEEM SUBSTANTIVE AND GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENED, POST APPROVAL BY BY YOU ALL IN OCTOBER 2024 WITH THE LAGOON WE FELT IT'S IMPERATIVE TO CIRCLE BACK AND JUST ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE INTENTION AND LAYOUT WAS CERTAINLY ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT TIES TO THE AMENITIES PLAN.

SO ELIMINATING THE BUILD OF A PUBLIC RESTROOM WOULD BE OF NOTE.

AND SO LAST NIGHT WE DID ASK THAT THAT WE BE STATUSED NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S ALL THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I, I KEEP HEARING THESE THIS COMMENT ABOUT THE WATERFRONT DIRECTOR POSITION BEING VACATED, IT IS NOT RIGHT. SO FOR YEARS, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT WAS IN GREAT SHAPE.

WE WEREN'T ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO WORK FOR OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.

DIRECTOR HAUSE, WHEN SHE GOT APPOINTED, GOT THAT DEPARTMENT UP, UP AND AT THEM AND SERVICING THE COMMUNITY BETTER THAN EVER.

THE TEEN CENTER OPENED, SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT'S MORE OR LESS ON AUTOPILOT.

I ACTUALLY JUST LEFT CLOSED SESSION AND SPOKE WITH HER. SAYS 90% OF HER TIME IS DEDICATED TO THE WATERFRONT.

RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD NOT HAVE A MORE POWERFUL, STRONG, COMPETENT, ADEPT PERSON LEADING THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND THE WATERFRONT IS BENEFITING FROM HER LEADERSHIP.

SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE IT SOON. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEMS H.1 THROUGH H.20 EXCLUSIVE OF H.8 OR H.19? ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE.

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AS FAR AS ECOMMENTS GOES, WE DID RECEIVE ONE FOR H.5 WITH THE POSITION OF OPPOSE.

WE RECEIVE FOUR ECOMMENTS FOR H.7 IN A POSITION OF OPPOSED AND ONE ECOMMENT FOR H.9 IN THE POSITION OF OPPOSED.

OKAY, WITH THAT I WILL CALL THE VOTE AGAIN, REMINDING THE COUNCIL THIS IS H.1 THROUGH H.20 MINUS H.8 AND H.19.

I WILL CALL THE VOTE NOW. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE TO READ ITEM H.7. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY.

RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2609-075. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DECLARING THE PAINTING OF THE RAIL BRIDGE CROSSING AT ARTESIA BOULEVARD AS MAINTENANCE AND EXEMPTING IT FROM FORMAL BIDDING REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO SECTION 19.1 SUB A OF THE CITY CHARTER CHARTER OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

WE HAVE ITEM H.13 ADOPT BY 4/5 VOTE AND BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2609-076 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA AUTHORIZING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027 BUDGET MODIFICATION TO APPROPRIATE $16,336 AND BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE FISCAL YEAR 2025 EDWARD VI MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM LOCAL FORMULA FUND FROM THE U.S.

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS TO THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL GRANTS FUND.

AND H.14 ADOPTE BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2609-077.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA ADOPTING THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE AND REPEALING ALL OTHER CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODES. ITEM H.15 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2609-078 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE FILING OF A CLAIM WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FOR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027. ITEM H.16 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER CC-2609-079 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DECLARING PURSUANT TO THE SURPLUS LAND ACT, THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY AT 179 NORTH HARBOR DRIVE IS EXEMPT SURPLUS LAND AND NOT NECESSARY FOR THE CITY'S USE. ITEM H.18 ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3317-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ADDING TITLE FOUR, CHAPTER 38 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO HEDGES FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3318-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE ONE, CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 1 TO 2.01 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO GENERAL PENALTY PENALTIES, CONTINUING VIOLATIONS FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

ADOPT BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3319-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE ONE CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 1 TO 2.03 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE PERTAINING TO INFRACTIONS FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AND THAT IS ALL FOR NOW, MAYOR. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

SO WE'RE KEEPING YOU BUSY TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

[I. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]

SO NOW WE'RE GOING DOWN TO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE THAT IS H.19 PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

AND THIS IS RELATED TO COMPENSATION DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL MADE AT THE LAST MEETING.

THESE WERE THE FIRST READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

SO WITH THAT I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR TO COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

YEAH. I WANTED TO PULL THIS. OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN THE COMMENT OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, IS A REOCCURRING STATEMENT.

IN MANY DISCUSSIONS AND TOPICS THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

AND FOR THAT REASON I WOULD ASK THAT WE ARE NOT APPROVING THIS, THIS RAISE AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT ANOTHER CYCLE. BUT THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BE DOING THAT.

AND SO I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR SUPPORT AND THAT WE REVISIT THIS IN TWO YEARS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? COUNTER THAT DISCUSSION? JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ITEM 19 I BELIEVE IT IS.

SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY. BEFORE WE VOTE YOU KNOW, WE'LL INVITE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE TO COME TALK TO THIS ITEM H.20. DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO.

19. I'M SORRY. H.19. THANKS FOR CORRECTING ME.

ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS H.19? AND NO ONE ONLINE. THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE.

OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL CALL THE VOTE. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? NO. SO THAT WAS 4 TO 1, I BELIEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM J.

THIS IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS.

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THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF.

MAYOR. I NEED TO. OH I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE TO READ.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SORRY FOR JUMPING THE GUN.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BREAK. THANK YOU. INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3320-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE TWO.

CHAPTER TWO. ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 2 TO 3.905 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE ESTABLISHING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE MAYOR FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING.

WE HAVE INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3321-26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE TWO. HOLD ON. WHO'S GOT SOMETHING BARKING? IF YOU COULD SILENCE THAT AND THE DOG OUT. OH, IT'S A DOG OUTSIDE.

YEAH. OH, WELL, SOMEBODY GOES SILENT TODAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OKAY. DO YOU MIND SITTING DOWN? WE DON'T.

YOU CAN'T BLOCK THE DOOR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, WHERE WAS I? OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ON NON-AGENDA.

I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF READING MY ORDINANCES. YEAH, I INTERRUPTED YOU.

THAT'S OKAY. WE'LL START OVER WITH THE SECOND ONE. SO INTRODUCE BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3321-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE TWO, CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 2 TO 2 TO 3.906 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.

ESTABLISHING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING INTRODUCED BY TITLE ONLY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 3322-26. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE TWO, CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 2 TO 3.902 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.

ESTABLISHING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE CITY CLERK FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. INTRODUCE BY TITLE ONLY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3323-26.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA AMENDING TITLE TWO, CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 2 TO 2 TO 3.903 OF THE REDONDO BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, ESTABLISHING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE CITY TREASURER FOR INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. AND THAT IS ALL. MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

NOW GOING TO ITEM J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[J. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION.

THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES TOTAL, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

I WOULD ASK BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE AUDIENCE, YOU ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, NOT MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

AND IF YOU SUPPORT, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SHOUTING OUT AND SAYING YAY OR BOO.

SO PLEASE, IF YOU LIKE SOMETHING, SHOW YOUR HANDS LIKE THIS.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE THUMBS DOWN. SO I'D APPRECIATE THAT DECORUM.

AND WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE TO ALTERNATE NOW BETWEEN PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND ONLINE.

SO I'LL BE DOING THAT. HOWEVER, FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, CARDS WILL COME FIRST.

THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS SEAN BRODY. HELLO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS SEAN BRODY, AND I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK GENERALLY THAT I THINK A SURF POOL OR SURF PARK PROJECT IN REDONDO WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN BIG SUPPORT OF.

I THINK ALREADY THERE'S A HUGE SURF CULTURE ESTABLISHED HERE, AND BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE VARIABLES ADDS A LOT OF COMMUNITY IMPACT AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND I COME FROM A BACKGROUND WHERE ESSENTIALLY SURFING MEETS SAFETY AND BEST PRACTICES AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, WORKED WITH SURFING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ACROSS THE WORLD, FROM WEST AFRICA TO LA JOYA, TO LA, TO YOU NAME IT. CONSULTED FOR MORE THAN 100 SURFING FEDERATIONS WORKING WITH THE INTERNATIONAL SURF ASSOCIATION AND AND HELPED WORK TO GET SURFING INCLUDED IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES. AND I'VE JUST SEEN SO MUCH BENEFIT TO SPECIAL POPULATIONS, INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, YOU KNOW, AT RISK YOUTH EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ANY WAVE LAGOON SURF PARK PROJECTS, THINGS THAT MAY BE COMING TO THE TABLE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS JOHN MILLER.

HI, JOHN. I'M JOHN MILLER. I GOT SOME NOTES HERE.

I'M NOT SO GOOD WITH THE PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP A DENTAL OFFICE.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR 25 YEARS, SO I WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THE LEASE TERMS FOR 105 WEST TORRANCE BOULEVARD, SUITE 100 HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS RIGHT NOW.

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AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WAITING THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY.

AND SO WE CAN FORMALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A FORMAL LEASE DRAFT.

THIS WOULD BE A SEVEN YEAR COMMITMENT TO THE SPACE AND WITH VERY MINIMAL, VERY MINIMAL CONCESSIONS BEING REQUESTED TO GET A NEW BUSINESS IN THIS, IN OUR COMMUNITY.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE READY TO, TO KIND OF BEGIN MAKING NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS TO GET THE PRACTICE UP AND RUNNING AND WHATNOT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE ANY GUIDANCE AS TO HOW WE COULD EXPEDITE THIS AND KIND OF GET THINGS GOING IN THIS AND WHERE THE GUIDANCE OF THE, LIKE THE CITY IS WHERE WE ARE AT THAT POINT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING ON FROM THE CITY PERMIT OR.

WELL, I THINK THERE IS LIKE A INTERNATIONAL ITALIAN TRUST AND ESTATE DUE TO THE PREVIOUS TENANT.

AND THERE'S SOMETHING WITH THAT THAT'S HOLDING THINGS UP.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT WE PUT AN LOI LIKE THREE MONTHS AGO.

THE MAN TO TALK TO, I THINK IS RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND.

I THINK THAT WELL, MAYBE HAVE KATHERINE AND ELIZABETH SPEAK TO HIM AFTER HE'S DONE.

OKAY. OKAY. KATHERINE. YEAH, IT'S WATERFRONT.

WATERFRONT PLAZA. YEAH. OKAY. PLAZA. DO YOU HAVE A CARD, KATHERINE, THAT YOU CAN GIVE THE GENTLEMAN? WELL, WE'LL GET CONTACT INFORMATION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. JIM MUELLER IS THE NEXT CARD I HAVE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS RECEIVED A REPORT FROM THE ARIAS COMPANY.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONTRACT REGARDING AVAILABILITY OF PROPERTIES ON ARTESIA BOULEVARD, AND MORE WILL BE COMING IN OCTOBER. THE CITY HAS ALREADY LEARNED, HAS LEARNED IN THE PAST YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE LIVING AROUND ARTESIA. THE LEBASSE SURVEY AND THE FARMERS MARKET EXPERIENCE FOR ALMOST SIX MONTHS HAVE REVEALED A LOT.

MANY FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN LIVE AROUND ARTESIA.

IN FACT, PEOPLE WHO MOVE INTO NORTH REDONDO OFTEN CITE THE GREAT SCHOOLS AS REASON THEY CHOSE TO LIVE IN NORTH REDONDO.

THE SURVEYS AND THE FARMER'S MARKET RESPONSE CONFIRM THAT PEOPLE WANT THE ARTESIA AREA TO BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ALL SEASON.

MILD WEATHER ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE.

MANY ARE JUST PLAIN TIRED OF HAVING TO GET IN THEIR CARS EVERY TIME THEY WANT RECREATION.

HOWEVER, BEING ON THE SIDEWALK A FEW FEET FROM TRAFFIC, MOVING AT 40 AND SOMETIMES 50 MILES AN HOUR DOESN'T MAKE FOR A COMFORTABLE STROLL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN WITH YOU. ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS IS THE LACK OF PUBLIC SPACE ON ARTESIA.

MORE PUBLIC SPACE WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC, MAKING THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT MORE VITAL HAS THE CITY LOOKED INTO CONVERTING SOME OF THE FREED UP PARKING SPACE TO PUBLIC SPACE IF THE FAR PROPOSAL PASSES, RETAILERS WOULD BENEFIT.

OTHER CITIES HAVE BOOSTED REVITALIZATION BY ENCOURAGING MULTI ATTRACTION VENUES CATERING TO FAMILIES.

EXAMPLES ARE FAMILY FUN CENTERS AND NOT JUST AT THE PIER.

PHYSICAL FITNESS AND SPORTS VENUES WITH FOOD SERVICE ATTACHED.

TEMPORARY EVENTS LIKE ART AND MUSIC FESTIVALS CAN BE DONE ON A SMALL SCALE AND LINKED TO PROMOTION BY LOCAL COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES.

THE REDONDO SECTION OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD RUNS THROUGH THE HEART OF NORTH REDONDO AND OFFERS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY AND COMMERCIAL BENEFIT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS NIKI NEGRETE-MITCHELL.

HELLO. GOOD EVENING, NIKI NEGRETE-MITCHELL. NIKI NEGRETE-MITCHELL, DISTRICT THREE.

AND I'M A PROUD NATIVE AMERICAN, HISPANIC, 45 YEAR REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT.

SO I WANT TO PICK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF LAST MONTHS AGO WHEN I CAME BACK, THE NEXT THING ON MY AGENDA WAS TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC FOR LISTENING SO INTENTLY DURING THE WHOLE METRO THING.

AND JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO MY COMMENTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS ON THE METRO TOPIC. THAT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

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SPEAK WITH JANICE HAHN AND YOU KNOW, I GOT A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW THE COUNTY PEOPLE, SUPERVISORS AND THEIR DEPUTIES AND WHATNOT. BUT JANICE HAHN SAYS PARKS ARE NOT A LUXURY.

THEY'RE ESSENTIAL. THEY'RE GREEN. THE GREEN SPACE.

AND TREES ARE ESSENTIAL. SHE DOES NOT EVER WANT TO TAKE DOWN ANY TREES.

AND SUPERVISOR MITCHELL AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY STAFF AND LEADERSHIP.

THAT'S BASICALLY THEIR POLICY, YOU KNOW, TO MAINTAIN GREEN SPACE AND NOT TO TAKE DOWN ANY TREES.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SINCE THE DEDICATION OF THE PARK FOR BILL BRAND I'VE BEEN WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

BILL TOLD ME I'M THE MAYOR, BUT I'M ALSO JUST A GUY.

AND HE USED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT AND HE DIDN'T KNOW MY HERITAGE AT THE TIME, BUT HE USED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY OF REDONDO BEACH.

AND HE WAS VERY JUST SORT OF LIKE, ENCHANTED WITH THE WHOLE STORY AS MUCH AS HE COULD GATHER.

AND I YOU KNOW, ABOUT RESTORING THE WETLANDS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF AND TALKING, TALKING STORIES ABOUT HOW THE TRADE, YOU KNOW, THE GABRIELINO-TONGVA CAME AND WOULD TRADE THE SALT AND FISH, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF.

I SPOKE AT GREAT LENGTH. SO DURING THE METRO DRAFT EIR I LEARNED ABOUT NATIVE AMERICAN REMAINS THAT ARE BURIED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BACK THERE. AND SO THAT REALLY KIND OF GOT ME GOING.

AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE GABRIELINO-TONGVA AND THEY SAID THEY DON'T KNOW ANYBODY FROM THIS AREA, SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STORIES TO SHARE, RETELL.

SO THEY SUGGESTED THAT I REACH OUT TO THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO TONGVA AND PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE SOME INFORMATION, BUT THAT JUST FELT LIKE A LOT OF WORK AT THE TIME.

AND SO NOW I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE. HEY, NIKI, I'M SORRY, BUT YOUR TIME IS UP.

WE DO HAVE A RICH TONGVA HISTORY, SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.

ANYONE ONLINE? WE DO. WE HAVE HOLLY OSBORNE. GO AHEAD.

HOLLY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. AND CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS HOLLY OSBORNE IN DISTRICT FIVE. I AM HERE TO SPEAK FOR GREEN SPACE AND TREES AND SHADE.

I AM FOR GREEN SPACE AND TREES AND SHADE WHEREVER THERE IS A LACK IN LA COUNTY AND BEYOND.

GREEN SPACE IS NOT THE SAME AS OPEN SPACE. A FEW YEARS AGO, BEFORE COVID, I GAVE A SORT OF IMPASSIONED SPEECH ABOUT AVIATION PARK.

WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FIRST CLOSED AVIATION HIGH SCHOOL BACK IN THE 1980S, SOME OF THE LAND WAS SOLD FOR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.

BUT THERE WAS A VOTE TO KEEP THE REST OF THE SPACE THE GYM, THE BASKETBALL COURTS, THE TRACK, THE GREEN SPACE, ETC.. ONE DAY AFTER WORK, I CAME TO USE THE TRACK AND THERE WERE BULLDOZERS BULLDOZING THE GREEN SPACE AND THE TENNIS COURTS TO ENLARGE THE PARKING LOT. I RACED HOME TO MY TELEPHONE AND CALLED MY COUNCIL MEMBER, MR. PARSONS. I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WE VOTED TO KEEP THAT OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? PARKING LOT IS OPEN SPACE. I WAS LIVID. A PARKING LOT DOES NOT PROVIDE SHADE.

IT DOES NOT. WE'RE LOSING YOU. YOU DROPPED YOUR PARKING LOT.

THERE YOU GO. NOT PROVIDE SHADE. IT DOES NOT PROVIDE TREES TO CLEAN THE AIR.

IT IS A PARKING LOT, NOT PARADISE. I FEEL THE SAME WAY FOR ANY GREEN SPACE IN REDONDO.

I WOULD NOT WANT YOU TO BUILD MORE HOUSING ON GREEN SPACE PARKETTES SUCH AS ANDREWS NEXT TO THE SENIOR HOUSING.

I WOULD FIGHT ANY UPZONING THERE. AND THERE'S ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE NEXT TO REDONDO.

AND THAT IS THE EL NIDO PARK. I AND IT HAS THE MOST BALANCED TREES AND GREEN TREES, GRASS AND SHADE AROUND.

YES, IT'S CONTROLLED BY TORRANCE, BUT WHEN THEY WRITE THEIR IMPACT REPORT, THEY HAVE TO INFORM AND GET COMMENTS FROM ALL NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN 500FT.

THAT INCLUDES A GOOD HUNK OF REDONDO IN DISTRICT THREE AND ALSO YOUR NEW FRONTIER COMPLEX.

I SENT YOU A MAP A FEW WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EL NIDO.

THAT'S IMPROVEMENTS IN QUOTE IS A NEW 209 SPACE PARKING LOT.

CUT DOWN THE BEAUTIFUL SHADE TREES. THE TEMPERATURE IS AT LEAST TEN DEGREES COOLER IN THAT PARK BECAUSE OF THOSE TREES.

WHO IN THESE YEAR OF RECORD DEATH, LIKE HEAT, LIKE HEAT, CAN THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA? IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, SUPERVISOR REDUCING ASPHALT AND HARD SPACE AROUND SCHOOLS.

WHO THINKS IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO INCREASE HARDSCAPE IN EL NIDO? SO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PROVIDE IMPACT STATEMENTS WHEN THEY RELEASE THE EQUIVALENT OF THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT.

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SO PLEASE THEY HAVE TO RESPECT OUR COMMENTS. I HOPE WE CAN ALL FIGHT FOR GREEN SPACE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS GIL ESCONTRIAS.

GIL. THANKS.

I AM HERE BECAUSE RECENT MEETINGS HAVE BECOME VERY CONCERNING.

THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, ITS EMPLOYEES, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE COMMUNITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR ABILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER BASED ON SOME OF THE MORE RECENT INTERACTIONS OR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. I BELIEVE THERE'S A REASON FOR CONCERN.

SINCERELY HOPE THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING DOES NOT CONTINUE OR ESCALATE FURTHER.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT WE DETERMINE WHY PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING THE WAY THEY ARE. MANY PEOPLE ARE BECOMING A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THESE MEETINGS, AND SOME ARE BEING VERY DISRESPECTFUL. AND AGAIN ACTUALLY CAUSING MORE OF AN ISSUE ABOUT THE MEETING ITSELF.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, IS THIS BECAUSE OF, OF FRUSTRATION? IS IT LACK OF INFORMATION. ANY LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS GOING UNANSWERED? ARE PEOPLE BEING TOLD WHAT WAS DECIDED WITHOUT BEING TOLD HOW OR WHY? AND DO PEOPLE SIMPLY NO LONGER BELIEVE WHAT IS BEING TOLD? IF IT IS FRUSTRATION, THEN WE MUST UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT FRUSTRATION DOES NOT DEVELOP IN A VACUUM.

THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. OKAY, PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY HAVE SAID AND INDICATED THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY, ITS REPRESENTATIVES AND THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY TO THEM.

HOW WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM. GIVE THEM EVERY SINGLE ANSWER.

OKAY. AND DO IT RIGHT PROPERLY AND RESPECTFULLY.

THEY DON'T CARE. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY EVERY DAY WITH EVERYTHING.

BUT IDEALLY, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, AND NOT JUST FOR YOUR POLITICAL CONCERNS, AS WELL AS FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND SUCH LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THE CONCERN COMES DOWN TO IS IN THESE MEETINGS IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN DIALOG AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THAT WE LISTEN TO EACH OTHER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT IN MY CAREER IS THAT I'VE WORKED A LONG TIME IN HOPEFULLY HELPING PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DISREGARDED, MARGINALIZED VICTIMS OF CRIMES AND SUCH.

AND I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN I STAND, WHEN PEOPLE STAND BY AND WATCH PEOPLE BULLY OTHER PEOPLE, FORCE THINGS INTO THEM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TOTALLY DISREGARD THEM.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, NEITHER SHOULD YOU. AND BY THAT I MEAN AS WELL AS SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TO STEP ASIDE FROM YOUR POLITICAL OR YOUR FRIENDLY, IF YOU WILL, CONCERNS AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE REST OF US.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOME OF THESE, THESE THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS BECOME MORE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE, MORE AND MORE DIVISIVE, AND MORE AND MORE TO A POINT WHERE NOBODY'S LISTENING TO ANYBODY OR ANYTHING.

SAFETY IS IMPORTANT. AND I WILL SAY VERY QUICKLY, BUT DO NOT USE THE IDEA OF SAFETY THAT SOME OF YOU ARE AFRAID OF US, THAT SOMEHOW WE CAN DO ANYTHING IN ORDER TO STIFLE US, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUR MIND AND REFER TO AND TALK AND EXPLAIN WHAT OUR ISSUES ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? YES, WE HAVE MARCNELSON. GO AHEAD. MARK. OKAY.

I WANT TO THANK MIKE KLEIN AND MARCGERLACH OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THEIR QUICK RESPONSE TO AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM FAILURE WE HAD YESTERDAY ON THE STREET.

WATER WAS RUNNING DOWN THE STREET. IT WAS POOLING AT THE END.

I SAW IT ABOUT 11:30 LAST NIGHT. SO I EMAILED MIKE AND MIKE RESPONDED AT 5 A.M.

AND TRUCKS WERE THERE BY 8 A.M. TROUBLESHOOTING IT.

AND THAT PARTICULAR IRRIGATION WAS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF TREES THAT WERE INSTALLED A WEEK AGO WHEN WE SORT OF HAD THAT REALLY HOT WEATHER. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS GREAT.

I THINK MIKE KNOWS THAT. I THINK CITY CITY MANAGER MIKE KNOWS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING GOOD LUCK AND GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH WITH MIKE AND MARK. WITH RESPECT TO THE WAVE POOL THAT OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ON.

I HAVE NO OPINION ABOUT THE WAVE POOL ITSELF.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT'S IMPROPER TO FRONT RUN PHASE ONE PROCESSES THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERWAY FOR YEARS AND ARE FUNDED WITH $7 MILLION REMAINING OF A $10 MILLION GRANT. WITH RESPECT TO THE LIQUID GAS STORAGE AT 2477 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD, THE STAFF REPORT CONTINUES TO HAVE ERRORS. THE DIAGRAMS ARE STILL INCOMPLETE AND UNLABELED.

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THE REPORT USES THE INCORRECT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MANUAL.

IT USES A MANUAL FOR TRANSPORTED LIQUEFIED GAS, NOT LARGE STATIONARY TANKS.

THE MANUAL SAYS VERY EARLY ON THAT THIS IS FOR TRANSIT USE AND NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR ANY OTHER FIXED USE. AND LAST, THE ORDINANCE THAT'S DRAFTED IS JUSTIFIED BY STAFF STATEMENTS THAT REALLY HAVE NO SUPPORT IN THE RECORD.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE NO SUPPORT IN THE RECORD, NOR ARE THERE ANY WORK PAPERS OR FORMAL ANALYSIS.

SO IT IS LITERALLY A DEFECTIVE DOCUMENT THAT USES STATEMENTS THAT ARE IN THERE, LITERALLY TO SIMPLY TRY TO REINFORCE THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, WHEN IN FACT IT DOESN'T, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THOSE STATEMENTS ARE UNFOUNDED.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT ONE I HAVE IS WAYNE CRAGG.

YOU GOT TO FIX YOUR HANDWRITING HERE, WAYNE. HANDWRITING HAS GOTTEN BAD SINCE THE INVENTION OF COMPUTERS.

YOU SHOULD SEE MY SIGNATURE. IT LOOKS LIKE A SEISMOGRAPH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WAYNE CRAIG, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION RECENTLY ABOUT HEATED CONVERSATIONS AT PUBLIC COUNCIL DISTRICT MEETINGS, AND I AGREE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL.

NO ONE SHOULD PREVENT ANOTHER RESIDENT FROM BEING ABLE TO SPEAK OR MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO CONDUCT A MEETING.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK HONESTLY ABOUT WHY THESE MEETINGS HAVE BECOME SO CONTENTIOUS AND WHY SOME RESIDENTS ARE RELUCTANT TO PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR. YOU CANNOT SEPARATE TODAY'S FRUSTRATION FROM THE HISTORY OF HOW RESIDENTS HAVE SOMETIMES BEEN TREATED WHEN THEY CHALLENGE THOSE IN POWER.

MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY REMEMBER THE BATTLES SURROUNDING BALLOT INITIATIVES, FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS, POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, AND THE INTENSE DIVISION THAT DEVELOPED BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER, THOSE EXPERIENCES LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION.

SO WHEN RESIDENTS BECOME ANGRY TODAY, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEIR BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE.

BUT IT DOES MEAN THERE IS A HISTORY BEHIND THAT ANGER THAT SHOULDN'T SIMPLY BE DISMISSED.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS WELL THE CONTINUED DIVISION BETWEEN NORTH REDONDO AND SOUTH REDONDO.

I'VE SPENT YEARS WORKING ON ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

MY DRIVER'S LICENSE DOESN'T SAY NORTH REDONDO ON IT.

IT SAYS REDONDO BEACH. I'VE WORKED WITH RESIDENTS IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, SUPPORTED PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, AND TRY TO FOCUS ON WHAT MAKES THE CITY BETTER AS A WHOLE.

I BELIEVE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD DO THE SAME.

WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS FRAME ISSUES AROUND NORTH VERSUS SOUTH, OR WHEN RESIDENTS IN ONE PART OF THE CITY FEEL THEY DON'T HAVE MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, IT CREATES RESENTMENT AND REINFORCES THE VERY DIVISION WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO ELIMINATE.

THE ANSWER ISN'T TO SILENCE ANGRY RESIDENTS. THE ANGER, THE ANSWER IS TO GIVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE HEARD.

HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS. LISTEN EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING.

TREAT RESIDENTS WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU AS CONSTITUENTS, NOT ADVERSARIES.

AND IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT ENGAGING MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THEN WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE BELIEVE THEIR PARTICIPATION IS WELCOMED, NOT PUNISHED, IGNORED, OR VIEWED AS A POLITICAL THREAT.

I CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE CITY.

I BELIEVE REDONDO BEACH IS BIGGER THAN POLITICAL FACTIONS, BIGGER THAN INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS, AND CERTAINLY BIGGER THAN NORTH VERSUS SOUTH.

WE SHOULD BE WE SHOULD STOP ASKING WHICH PART OF REDONDO BEACH SOMEONE COMES FROM AND START ASKING A MUCH MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION.

WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER TO MAKE REDONDO BEACH BETTER FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? YEAH, WE HAVE JOAN IRVINE.

GO AHEAD. JOAN. JOAN. ARE YOU THERE? WAS THAT YOUR COMMENT? OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.

IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE ONLINE? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE ONLINE.

OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS JESS MONEY THEN. JESS. YOU'RE UP.

JESS MONEY DISTRICT THREE. FIRST OFF, WE GOT TO GET RID OF THIS MIDGET MIC.

WE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S TALLER AND ADJUSTABLE.

FOR PEOPLE LIKE WAYNE AND I. FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING REDONDO BEACH GOVERNMENT AS AN ORGANIZED CRIME FAMILY.

AND SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS EXAGGERATING. OTHERS JUST THOUGHT I WAS A LUNATIC.

BUT IT TURNS OUT I'M IN ESTEEMED COMPANY, VERY ESTEEMED.

I SAW A QUOTE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO FROM LAWRENCE LESSIG, PROFESSOR LAWRENCE LESSIG, THE FORMER HEAD OF HARVARD LAW,

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WHO SAID, ONCE YOU VIEW GOVERNMENT AS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE WITH CORRUPTION AS ITS ORGANIZING FEATURE, SUDDENLY A LOT OF THINGS MAKE SENSE. AND IT'S I ALSO FOUND A PIECE ON SUBSTACK BY A BLOGGER WHO GOES UNDER THE NAME ZUZANNA, WHO DESCRIBED HOW WE GROW UP LEARNING HOW ALL THESE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK, AND THEN, QUOTE, YOU LEARN HOW MUCH OF POLITICS DEPENDS NOT MERELY ON IDEAS, BUT ON ACCESS, MONEY, TIMING, LEGAL STRUCTURES, MEDIA OWNERSHIP, AND THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND CONSEQUENCES THAT WOULD DESTROY SOMEBODY WITH FEWER RESOURCES. AND THEY CONCLUDE BY SAYING, WHAT IF THE SYSTEMS WE SO MUCH SPEND SO MUCH TIME DESCRIBING AS BROKEN ARE NOT IN THE MOST IMPORTANT SENSE, BROKEN AT ALL? WHAT IF THEY ARE SIMPLY PRODUCING THE OUTCOMES THAT THEIR INCENTIVE STRUCTURES AND POWER RELATIONSHIPS MAKE THEM LIKELY TO PRODUCE? NOW, LATER TONIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO DEBATE THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

I'M NOT GOING TO STICK AROUND FOR IT, BECAUSE NOTHING THAT'S SAID HERE TONIGHT IS GOING TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE.

YOU'VE ALREADY MET AND TALKED AMONG YOURSELVES.

NOW PEOPLE WILL GO, WAIT, THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

THE BROWN ACT FORBIDS THAT. THE BROWN ACT WAS ENACTED 76 YEARS AGO.

IN ITS ENTIRE HISTORY, NOT ONLY HAS NO ONE EVER BEEN CRIMINALLY CONVICTED FOR VIOLATING IT, NOBODY'S EVER BEEN CHARGED. SO THERE ARE NO EFFECTIVE PENALTIES.

THE FOIA ACT IS CALIFORNIA'S FOIA ACT, IS 53 YEARS OLD, AND NOBODY'S EVER BEEN CRIMINALLY CHARGED WITH VIOLATING IT.

SO I CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS. YOU'RE CORRUPT. YOU'RE DISHONEST.

BUT YOU FIGURED OUT THAT IT PAYS. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

AND I COMMEND ALL THESE PEOPLE FOR COMING. BUT IF THEY'VE INFLUENCED YOU PREVIOUSLY AND YOU'VE ALREADY DECIDED THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH OF A HOT POTATO. GREAT. YOU'LL VOTE DOWN ALAN SANFORD'S WAVE POOL.

IF YOU'VE DECIDED YOU CAN HOLD OUT, YOU CAN FIGHT OFF.

THANK YOU. JESS. YOUR TIME IS UP. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE. MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER CARD? YEAH. ONE MORE. OKAY, GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

DID YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO JOAN? YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW. OKAY. HI. I THOUGHT YOUR COMMENT WAS YOU.

WELL, I MAY HAVE SAID THAT A FEW TIMES. THERE.

JOAN IRVINE DISTRICT ONE. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT THE REDONDO BEACH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S WOMEN'S CONFERENCE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON OCTOBER 9TH FROM 8 TO 4:30 AT THE SONESTA REDONDO BEACH.

I'M ACTUALLY VERY HONORED THAT I AM GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FACILITATORS OF A WORKSHOP, AND YOU ALL WILL LOVE THIS, ESPECIALLY KNOWING HOW I'M INVOLVED IN THINGS.

IT'S CALLED IGNITE YOUR RESILIENCE, TURNING CHALLENGES INTO STRENGTH AND POSSIBILITY.

SO THAT WILL BE FROM 1250 TO 1:20 P.M., BUT PLEASE GO TO THE REDONDOCHAMBER.ORG SITE UNDER EVENTS, TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER SPEAKERS AND SIGN UP.

AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE TOP WOMEN IN REDONDO BEACH.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. GUYS, COULD YOU SIT DOWN? ARE YOU BLOCKING AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. LAST CARD I HAVE IS ANDREW BALL.

ANDREW BALL. DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I LIVE ON PEARL STREET IN REDONDO BEACH. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2012.

AND WHEN I FIRST MOVED INTO TOWN, THE INTERSECTION AT PCH AND PEARL WAS A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT.

THEY HAD TO PRESS THE BUTTON IN ORDER TO CROSS THE STREET ON PCH, WHICH WAS NOT IDEAL.

IT WAS DANGEROUS. YOU'D PRESS THE BUTTON, IT WOULD FLASH YELLOW, AND YOU'D HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT CARS WEREN'T GOING TO IGNORE THE YELLOW AND RUN THROUGH PCH. AND THEN A FEW YEARS LATER, A STOPLIGHT WAS PUT IN PLACE THERE.

AND SINCE THEN, CARS ROUTINELY SPEED UP PEARL STREET, GOING FROM EITHER EAST TO WEST OR WEST TO EAST BETWEEN PCH AND CAMINO

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REAL. IT'S POSTED 25 MILES AN HOUR. I THINK CARS ROUTINELY GO 50 MILES AN HOUR PLUS, WHICH I THINK IS YOU KNOW, GROUNDS FOR LOSING A LICENSE. BUT I'D SAY IT HAPPENS DAILY MULTIPLE TIMES.

SO I REQUEST THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME STEPPED UP ENFORCEMENT OR SOMEONE DOES A TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO ABATE THE SPEEDING THAT'S PRETTY RAMPANT ON THAT STRETCH OF THE ROAD. IT'S DANGEROUS FOR FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE ONE CARD THAT STUCK TOGETHER.

SO. CARISSA ROBINSON. I SAW YOU COME UP, SO I FIGURED I MISSED IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE, AND IT WAS SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CARISSA ROBINSON, AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS SURROUNDING THE WAVE POOL PROPOSAL BECAUSE FRANKLY, I'M INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATED BY HOW WE EVEN GOT HERE.

FOR YEARS, THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

AND NOW, JUST AS THE COUNCIL IS FINALLY AT THE POINT OF MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THE PROJECT, HOW DID WE SUDDENLY END UP DEBATING ALLEN SANFORD'S WAVE POOL? THERE WAS NO RFP FOR WAVE POOL. THERE WAS NO COMPETITIVE PROCESS.

THERE WAS NO SOLICITATION OF PROPOSALS FOR THE LAGOON, AND THERE WAS NO DECISION BY CITY COUNCIL SAYING, LET'S STOP AND EXPLORE A COMMERCIAL WAVE POOL INSTEAD.

YET THERE WAS AN EASY READER ARTICLE. A PRIVATE PROPOSAL BEGAN CIRCULATING, AND THEN LAST NIGHT, THE RED CARPET WAS ROLLED OUT AT THE HARBOR COMMISSION FOR ONE PRIVATE PROPONENT TO GIVE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION PROMOTING HIS SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL CONCEPT.

AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT A WAVE POOL. THE PROPOSAL WOULD INVOLVE PRIVATE COMMERCIAL USE AND CONTROL OF MOLE D, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PARK THAT MATTERS. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF ISSUE WE FOUGHT FOR AND OVER WITH MEASURE C, AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS WAS INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING TO WATCH.

MOST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I HEARD OPPOSED THE PRIVATIZATION OF THE PUBLIC PARK.

THERE WERE ALSO 13 ECOMMENTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OPPOSING THE WAVE POOL.

YET COMMISSION DIDN'T EVEN ANNOUNCE THAT THOSE ECOMMENTS EXISTED OR ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ALL 13 OPPOSED THE PROPOSAL.

INSTEAD, WE WATCHED COMMISSIONERS TRY TO FIND WAYS TO KEEP THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT MOVING FORWARD.

IF THE CITY WANTS TO CONSIDER PRIVATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON MOLE D, THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT DO IT IN A TRANSPARENT PUBLIC PROCESS. OPEN AN RFP, LET OTHER IDEAS AND OTHER PROPOSALS COMPETE AND FIND EQUAL FOOTING.

ONE UNSOLICITED PRIVATE PROPOSAL SHOULD NOT EMERGE AT THE 11TH HOUR, RECEIVE A CITY PLATFORM AND SUDDENLY BECOME THE ALTERNATIVE EVERYONE IS DEBATING.

AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WAVE POOLS.

I COME FROM A LONG FAMILY HISTORY OF SURFERS.

WAVE POOLS CAN BE EXCITING. BUILD ONE AT THE GALLERIA.

BUILD ONE AT THE AES SITE. FIND AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT.

BUT WHATEVER ANYONE THINKS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR WAVE POOL, I HOPE YOU TAKE A VERY HARD LOOK AT HOW WE GOT HERE, BECAUSE PUBLIC LAND DESERVES A PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT DID NOT FEEL LIKE ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE PAST 30 MINUTES AT THIS POINT, SO THAT WILL BE THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT WE TAKE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS.

[N. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS DOWN AT ITEM N.1.

AND THAT IS THE ACTION REGARDING POTENTIAL ACTION REGARDING THE SEA SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO SUBMIT A PACKAGE TO A PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND APPROVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION DECLARATION. NOW, AS WE GET INTO THIS, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS.

SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO RELAY BEFORE WE START THAT, I DID GET A CALL FROM SENATOR BEN ALLEN'S OFFICE.

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN OVER WHETHER OUR GRANT WOULD TIME OUT.

AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE IN THE CASE OF THIS GRANT.

SO THAT'S NOT A BASIS FOR DECISION TO RUSH INTO A DECISION.

THIS IS ALSO NOT A, A DEBATE ON THE WAVE POOL AND NOT ON THE DESIGN.

THIS IS ON APPROVING THESE THESE TWO DOCK, THESE, THE APPLICATION AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION.

I WOULD ASK THE AUDIENCE TO RESPOND WITH RESPECT.

IF YOU LIKE SOMETHING AGAIN, PUT YOUR HANDS UP.

IF YOU DON'T PUT YOUR THUMBS DOWN WE DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF CLAPPING AND YELLING AND BOOING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO APPRECIATE AS WE GET INTO THIS THAT YOU HONOR THAT DECORUM WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.

I THINK YOU'RE TALKING TO THIS ONE, ELIZABETH.

YES. SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR LIGHT.

ELIZABETH HAUSE. WATERFRONT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT. SO I'LL BE GIVING A LITTLE OVERSIGHT OF THE ACTUAL PROJECT SITE, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE CURRENTLY FACE AT THAT LOCATION.

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THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET INTO SOME PROJECT DETAILS, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH NEXT STEPS.

SO AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE SEASIDE LAGOON IS OUR UNIQUE REGIONAL RECREATIONAL AMENITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HARBOR HERE.

IT IS A SALTWATER SWIMMING LAGOON THAT IS FED BY THE OCEAN THROUGH A SYSTEM THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

WE HOST DAILY VISITORS THERE, PLUS CAMPS AND SPECIAL EVENTS, AND IT IS OPEN DAILY BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND LABOR DAY FOR WATER USE.

WE ALSO HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS, PRIVATE RENTALS, ETC.

THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OKAY. CAN YOU HOLD ON A SECOND? CAN YOU GUYS SIT DOWN SO WE'RE NOT BLOCKING THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT? THANK YOU. SORRY. NO. IT'S OKAY. SO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE COUNCIL SOME STATISTICS FROM 2026, WE WERE OPEN 104 DAYS FOR THE SEASON. WE HAD OVER 67,000 ADMISSIONS TOTAL AND BETWEEN GATE ADMISSIONS, GROUP ADMISSIONS AND OUR RENTAL FEES, TO DATE, WE HAVE COLLECTED ALMOST $780,000 FOR THE LAGOON.

SO ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS AND ISSUES WE'VE BEEN WRESTLING WITH AT THE LAGOON IS THE WATER QUALITY, QUALITY MAINTENANCE, AS YOU ALL KNOW. OUR LAGOON DISCHARGES INTO THE HARBOR, AND THOSE DISCHARGES ARE REGULATED UNDER A REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD ISSUED NPDES PERMIT. THE EXISTING SYSTEM REQUIRES TREATMENT BEFORE ENTERING LAGOON AND THEN AGAIN NEEDS TO BE TREATED BEFORE IT GOES BACK INTO THE HARBOR. AND BETWEEN THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE QUALITY, THE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, WE'VE INCURRED FINES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES.

AND I'LL HAVE THAT SLIDE NEXT. SO YOU SEE THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT. TURN UP THE VOLUME ON HER MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

I THINK I'M PRETTY CLOSE, BUT I CAN GET CLOSER.

IS THAT EASIER? VERY, VERY SOFT. OKAY. AND SO WE DO HAVE ANTIQUATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE DISCHARGE CONCERNS. AND IT DOES IMPACT OUR OPERATIONAL FEASIBILITY FOR THE LAGOON.

AND WE DID PUT TOGETHER TOTAL FINES AND SEP COSTS THAT WE'VE INCURRED SINCE 2001.

IT AMOUNTS TO OVER $900,000 SEP COST WE DID DEFINE IT UP THERE FOR EVERYONE.

IT'S SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT SO THAT INSTEAD OF PAYING THE FINE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT A WATER BOARD APPROVED PROJECT INSTEAD.

AND IN LIEU. SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU SOME PROJECT HISTORY IN 2021 THROUGH 2022, WE UNDERTOOK THE EFFORT OF PUTTING TOGETHER A WATERFRONT AMENITIES PLAN. THIS IS WHERE WE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP A WATERFRONT WIDE PLANNING.

FILE PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

AND AS PART OF THAT, WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THE LAGOON AND YOU'LL SEE LISTED THERE FOUR BULLET POINTS.

THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY FEEDBACK POINTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING THE WATERFRONT AMENITIES PLAN, AND THAT INCLUDED IMPROVED YEAR ROUND ACCESS TO THE SEASIDE LAGOON, A RENEWED WATER FEATURE AND BEACH EXPERIENCE, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES FOR MULTIPLE GENERATIONS, AND FLEXIBLE OPEN SPACE AND COMMUNITY USES.

WE THEN WENT AHEAD AND TRANSITIONED TO PROJECT DESIGN.

THIS IS WHERE WE WENT FROM GENERAL BROAD WATERFRONT PLANNING TO LAGOON FOCUSED DESIGN.

WE RELEASED AN RFP FOR LAGOON DESIGN FOR LAGOON LAGOON DESIGN SERVICES.

FROM THE PROPOSERS WE SELECTED NUVIS THIS AS OUR DESIGN FIRM, AND OUR PROJECT SPECIFIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEGAN IN 2023. AM I STILL SPEAKING LOW, CHAD? IT'S JUST YOUR MICROPHONE IS VERY LOW.

IS IT ME? SO IF I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE BACK OR UP FRONT, WE CAN JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CLOSER I CAN GET, BUT I'LL GIVE IT A GO.

SPEAK LOUDLY. JUST WHEN SOMEBODY COUGHS, WE CAN'T EVEN HEAR YOU.

REALLY? OKAY. IT'S. IT'S REALLY SOFT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL.

I'LL INCREASE MY OWN VOLUME. SO FROM 2023 TO 2024, WE BEGAN OUR SEASIDE LAGOON SPECIFIC OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND YOU'LL SEE WE DID POP UPS, WE DID WORKSHOPS.

AND WE COLLECTED FEEDBACK ON EXPERIENCE SITE AND CIRCULATION, AS WELL AS THE CHARACTER AND AMENITIES OF THE LAGOON.

AND THEN IN 2024, WE BROUGHT THAT FEEDBACK AND A DESIGN TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION.

IT WAS WE PRESENTED SEVERAL DESIGN OPTIONS TO THE COMMISSION, AND THE COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND A COMPLETE PHASED RENOVATION.

AND THEY RECOMMENDED BUILDING PLACEMENT OPTION TWO AND PROMENADE DESIGN OPTION TWO.

SO AT THAT TIME IN 2024 THE FULL BUILD OUT ESTIMATE FOR ALL PHASES WAS ROUGHLY $31 MILLION.

FOR PHASE ONE, IT WAS $7 MILLION. THEN IN OCTOBER OF THE SAME YEAR, WE BROUGHT THE PROJECT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, AND THE COUNCIL AGREED WITH THE HARBOR COMMISSION.

AND THE CONCEPT THAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED WAS A COMBINATION OF THE LAGOON WITH A LAP SWIMMING FACILITY,

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RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, AND THEN TWO STORY OPERATIONS AND LIFEGUARD BUILDINGS.

SO WE WERE ADDING BUILDING SIZE TO THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE COUNCIL CONFIRMED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE PLACE IN PHASES.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE WENT FROM DESIGN CONCEPT APPROVAL AND WE TRANSITIONED TO ENGINEERING AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS IS WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS FACILITY. SO BETWEEN 2025 AND 2026, WE WE BEGAN REACHING OUT TO REGULATORY AGENCIES TO SEE HOW WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE 2 IN 1.

THE LAP POOL PLUS THE LAGOON. WE EXAMINED OUR REGULATORY AND SITE CONSTRAINTS, SEE WHERE WE CAN BUILD CERTAIN ELEMENTS, HOW DEEP WE CAN GO, WHAT THE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TYPE OF ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.

AND THEN WHEN WE CAME BACK TO COUNCIL IN APRIL 2026 WITH AN UPDATED DESIGN, IT REFLECTED THOSE CONSTRAINTS BUT STILL CAPTURED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS EXPRESSED THEY WANTED IN THE DESIGN.

SO IN APRIL, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT THE INCLUSION DIRECTED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT DESIGN.

AND THEN YOU ALSO ADDED CERTAIN ELEMENTS TO THAT, TO THAT DESIGN, INCLUDING AN ADDITIONAL RESTROOM ELEVATING THE DEPTH FROM 3.5FT TO FIVE FEET. AND THEN YOU DID WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PERIMETER FENCE REPLACEMENT AND THE SEASONAL FENCE IN BETWEEN THE OPEN SPACE AREA AND THE LAGOON AREA. SO THEN WE BROUGHT THE DESIGN OVER TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION IN AUGUST 2026.

THE COMMISSION DID CONFIRM THAT THE PROJECT AS DESIGNED IS CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE CEQA EXEMPTION REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS ANOTHER SEVEN ZERO VOTES THAT THE COUNCIL PURSUED THE DESIGN THAT WAS CONSIDERED IN 2024.

SO WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER 2026 NOW, AND THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE PREPARATION AND SUBMITTAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME PROJECT DETAILS.

THERE WILL BE A CONCRETE BOTTOM LAGOON, SO NO LONGER SAND BOTTOM, NO LONGER TIDALLY INFLUENCED.

THIS WILL BE POTABLE WATER. THERE WILL BE A WATER SLIDE.

WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THAT. THERE WILL BE A FOUNTAIN AND SPLASH FEATURES AS WE HAVE NOW.

THERE WILL BE LAP SWIMMING BUOYS IN THE DEEPER END.

THERE WILL BE NEW EQUIPMENT AND THE PUMP STATION YOU SEE THERE ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN THERE WILL BE SOME NEW LANDSCAPING, A LUAU SHELTER THAT IS NO LONGER ATTACHED TO THE EQUIPMENT BUILDING, BUT A STANDALONE SHELTER THAT FOLKS CAN RENT OUT AND USE.

THERE WILL BE SEASONAL FENCING THAT WILL DIVIDE THE WATER FEATURE FROM THE REST OF THE PARK, SO THAT THE REST OF THE PARK CAN REMAIN OPEN YEAR ROUND, AND THEN ANY NECESSARY UTILITY, DRAINAGE AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE ELEMENTS WILL BE PART OF THE DESIGN. AND LASTLY, WE DID INCREASE ADA ACCESSIBILITY INCLUSIVE OF A RAMP INTO THE LAGOON ITSELF.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW SLIDES NOW SO THAT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS UP CLOSE. I CAN COME BACK TO ANY OF THEM AS WE CONTINUE WITH THE CONVERSATION.

BUT YOU'LL SEE HERE THE FIRST SHALLOW SANDY AREA THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT.

AND THEN THERE'S A DIVIDER, AND THEN THERE IS A DEEPER END THAT GOES UP TO FIVE FEET FOR FOLKS TO SWIM IN.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE SLIDE IS LOCATED AS WELL.

WE HAVE THE PERIMETER FENCING THAT WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE, AS WELL AS SEASONAL FENCING.

AND THAT IS THE GREEN LINE YOU SEE THERE. THAT IS THE FENCING THAT WILL GO IN DURING THE WINTER SO THAT FOLKS CAN STILL ACCESS THAT PARK SPACE.

IT'LL BE FREE OF CHARGE. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO ENTER THE LAGOON INTO THAT PARK SPACE.

WE HAVE THE NEW LUAU SHELTER. WE ARE MAKING SOME UPDATES TO THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WALLS ON THE BACK SO IT LOOKS MORE SHELTERED AND PROTECTED FROM THE WEATHER ELEMENTS.

BUT WE HAVE THIS NOW. INSTEAD OF BEING ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THE EQUIPMENT BUILDING, IT'LL BE ITS OWN UNIQUE SPACE. WE ALSO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL RESTROOM FACILITY AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP OUR DESIGNS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THERE WE'VE INCORPORATED THE SHOWERS AS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A RESTROOM, BUT ALSO THE SHOWERS WILL BE MOVED OVER THERE. AND SO HERE OUR NEXT STEPS, IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PREPARE AND SUBMIT THE PROJECT APPLICATION TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.

WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE, OR IF THEY WANT US TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DESIGN.

AND OF COURSE, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL IF THERE'S ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT WE SHOULD COME BACK HERE FOR TO GET APPROVAL.

WE'LL ALSO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR FOR BIDDING IN PARALLEL.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AWARD CONSTRUCTION BID. WE'LL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE ARE ON A VERY QUICK TIMELINE HERE, BUT WE THINK WE CAN DO IT.

WE CAN COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION AND OPEN THE FACILITY PRIOR TO THE LA 2028 OLYMPICS.

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AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION ON THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT DESIGN, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THE FINAL PREPARATION AS THE MIDDLE OF THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, AND THEY ALSO APPROVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION DECLARATION FOR THE PROJECT.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE MARC WEINER, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CDP APPLICATION OR ABOUT CEQA, AND THEN WITH US TONIGHT, WE ALSO HAVE OUR TEAM OF CONSULTANTS.

WE HAVE PERRY CARDOZA FROM NUVIS. WE HAVE JOHN CRUICKSHANK FROM JCM SQUARED, I THINK.

AND THEN WE HAVE SARANG SONG. HE'S FROM PACE.

HE IS OUR WATER GURU. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL WATER FEATURE, IT'LL PROBABLY BE COMING UP THERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING I SAID.

I SAID, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN THIS EVENING.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE DETAILED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS TONIGHT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SUBMISSION WITH THE APPLICATION, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T COMPLETED ON THOSE DRAWINGS THAT WE'VE NOTED. SO AGAIN, AS WE TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, THIS IS A HEATED DISCUSSION.

I WATCHED HARBOR COMMISSION LAST NIGHT. I'VE SEEN THE ONLINE STUFF.

I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS RELATED TO THE TOPIC AND TO THE TO THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION YOU WANT TO CONFER RATHER THAN ATTACKING PEOPLE OR THEIR MOTIVES.

SO WE WANT TO KEEP THIS CIVIL. SO I WOULD ASK THAT FROM YOU.

AND AGAIN, HANDS UP IF YOU SUPPORT THUMBS DOWN IF YOU DON'T.

I AM GOING TO, IF THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC FIRST AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. I'D LIKE TO, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC. SURE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I YOU KNOW, I DID WANT TO AT THE VERY TOP, THANK OUR WATERFRONT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, MISS ELIZABETH HAUSE, OUR WATERFRONT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, MISS KATHERINE BUCK DAVE CHAROBEE, MIO IWASAKI, AND ALL THE OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS WHO WORKED ON THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.

YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND YOU'VE REPRESENTED THE CITY VERY WELL, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.

WE'VE DUG INTO ALL OF THE DETAILS. YOU FIELDED COUNTLESS QUESTIONS, PROVIDED EXTENSIVE ANSWERS, EDUCATED THE COMMUNITY ON A MATTER OF EXTENSIVE PUBLIC INTEREST.

AND YOU'VE DONE THAT WITH GRACE AND PROFESSIONALISM THROUGHOUT.

SO MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH FINAL PREPARATION AND SUBMITTAL OF THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT, AND TO CONTINUE COORDINATION WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND TO APPROVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION DECLARATION. SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. AT THIS POINT, WE DO HAVE SOME CARDS.

THE FIRST IS NIKI NEGRETE-MITCHELL. THANK YOU.

HI AGAIN. NIKI NEGRETE-MITCHELL, DISTRICT THREE.

AND I REMEMBER THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF GOING OVER THE DESIGN AND, AND FOR THE HARBOR AMENITIES AND THERE WAS EVEN SOMETHING ABOUT THE SEASIDE LAGOON AND I ATTENDED 1 OR 2 MEETINGS, BUT I PARTICIPATED IN ALL OF THE ONLINE POLLS AND THOSE WERE VERY THOROUGH AND IT TOOK QUITE A LONG TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATERFRONT. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS THERE.

IT'S BEEN DELAYED FOR OVER TEN YEARS. AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SUFFERING WITH MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE FUN FACTORY SPACE AND SO GETTING THIS, GETTING INTO THIS PHASE ONE OF THE SEASIDE LAGOON, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T DELAY THAT ANY FURTHER. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY THOROUGH, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SO I WAS A WITNESS TO THAT AND, BUT WHAT I ALSO, WHAT I'M WITNESSING NOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE METRO, YOU KNOW, HOW I HATE CORPORATE SPIN AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING A LOT OF NOW CORPORATE SPIN AND TALKING POINTS THAT DON'T KIND OF MEASURE UP TO WHAT THE FACTS ARE.

AND SO JUST PLEASE LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE ONE.

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LET'S APPROVE THAT AND GET IT DONE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? YEAH, WE HAVE MARK NELSON.

GO AHEAD MARK, I'LL SECOND WHAT NKKI JUST SAID.

I THINK THAT GETTING ALONG WITH IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I THINK PHASE ONE NEEDS TO BE LOCKED DOWN AS SOON AS IT CAN BE LOCKED DOWN.

HAVING DONE A LOT OF CDPS AND EVEN HAVING GONE TO APPEAL AT COASTAL AGAINST A LOCAL DECISION, I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS APPLICATION IS RIPE. NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR CURRENT DAY SEA WATER LEVELS AND NOT 2050, AND I RAN THE ENTIRE RECORD THROUGH AI ONE MORE TIME JUST TO BE SURE THAT THAT STATEMENT IS TRUE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S READY TO GO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN GO IN WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND HAVE AN APPENDED FILING. THAT WILL BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S READY.

AND I THINK THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE YOU GO AHEAD AND LIGHT THE FUSE AT COASTAL ON THE CDP.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE TONIGHT.

MY LAST COMMENT IS I'VE WATCHED THE COMMISSION ON THIS.

AND JUST BY LOOKING AT THEIR FACES, THEY SEEM TRULY BLINDSIDED BY WHAT PHASE ONE HAS TURNED INTO.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THAT'S HOW THEY FEEL. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY DRIVING A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE WAVE POOL DISCUSSION IN ITS, IN ITS FASHION. SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF SOMEHOW COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO GET SYNCED UP BETTER THAN IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD THE FOLKS STANDING UP IN THE BACK PLEASE FIND THE SEAT? YOU'RE BLOCKING A FIRE EXIT. THERE'S PLENTY OF SEATS.

THERE'S THREE SEATS IN THE FIRST ROW HERE. YEAH, THERE'S SEATS RIGHT UP FRONT.

SIT NEXT TO SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW. MAYBE YOU'LL MAKE A NEW FRIEND. OKAY.

DOUG BOSWELL, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

DOUG BOSWELL, DISTRICT THREE. 38 YEARS IN REDONDO.

LET ME TELL YOU, SEASIDE LAGOON IS A MULTIGENERATIONAL, OCEANESQUE RECREATIONAL AMENITY, AND IT IS ENTIRELY UNIQUE TO REDONDO BEACH.

YOU WILL NOT FIND THIS ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT IT'S ALSO AN INCREDIBLE BONDING AND FRIENDSHIP GENERATING PUBLIC AMENITY FOR OUR KIDS.

WHICH RECENT COMMERCIAL VENTURES NOW WANT TO REPURPOSE BY NORTH REDONDO KIDS SPENT SUMMERS AT BREAKWATER DAY CAMP, MADE DOZENS OF FRIENDS FRIENDSHIPS THAT CARRIED OVER TO THE SCHOOL YEAR.

THEN, YEARS LATER, ENTERING HIGH SCHOOL, SOUTH REDONDO, FRIENDSHIPS MADE WERE REVIVED.

MY SON WAS CONVINCED TO JOIN THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM BY HIS REKINDLED SOUTH REDONDO FRIENDS, AND BY THE TIME THOSE BOYS WERE SENIORS, THEY TOOK FOURTH PLACE IN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, AN INCREDIBLE LIFE EXPERIENCE HE MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD WITHOUT THE DAY CAMP FOUNDATION.

MY DAUGHTER RAN INTO FRIENDS FROM HER TIME AT SEASIDE LAGOON ALL THE WAY THROUGH EL CAMINO.

BOTH KIDS NOW ADULTS TREASURE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO THIS DAY.

IF THERE IS ONE THING, ONE PLACE, ONE CITY TREASURE THAT SERVES TO UNITE NORTH AND SOUTH REDONDO.

IT'S DEFINITELY SEASIDE LAGOON BY WAY OF OUR KIDS, AND THE VALUE OF THAT CANNOT BE QUANTIFIED.

BUT WE ALL KNOW IT IS INVALUABLE TO OUR CITY AND OUR LOCAL CULTURE.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN COLD WEATHER DISCOURAGES LAGOON SWIMMING? WHY NOT EMPTY THE POOL AND TURN IT INTO A SKATE PARK? SO THERE YOU HAVE IT ALL YEAR ROUND. USE OF SEASIDE LAGOON AT MINIMAL EXPENSE WITH SAND, VOLLEYBALL COURTS AND PROPER BARBECUE AMENITIES.

THAT PARK WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE ALL YEAR ROUND.

IT WILL LIKELY PAY FOR ITSELF BETWEEN ADMISSION FEES AND SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS.

BUT REGARDLESS, WE NEED TO STOP THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE MUST THAT WE MUST MAXIMIZE THE FINANCIAL RETURN OF A PUBLIC PARK.

PARKS ARE NOT PROFIT CENTERS. THEY'RE ALL ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

BUT NOW CRAVEN COMMERCIAL INTERESTS WANT THAT SPACE FOR THEIR OWN EXPLOITATION.

AND WHO IS THE MAIN BENEFICIARY OF A WAVE POOL? ALLEN SANFORD'S PRIVATE CLUB AND RESTAURANT. NOT MUCH ELSE.

TO SPEAK TO. THE HARD PUSH SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THIS IS HIS HAIL MARY TO SAVE HIS RESTAURANT'S BACON, AND IT'S NOT THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY TO GUARANTEE THAT A BUSINESS IS PROFITABLE.

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WAVE POOL IS JUST A GIMMICK TO LURE DINERS. WHEN DOES REDONDO BEACH DO GIMMICKS? HOW MUCH WINTER USE IS A WAVE POOL GOING TO GENERATE? HOW MUCH TRANSIT OCCUPANCY TAX WILL BE INCREASED BY TOURIST DRAW? WHO KNOWS, BUT IT'LL BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME NO MATTER WHERE YOU PUT IT AES SITE.

SOUTH BAY GALLERIA AVIATION HIGH SCHOOL. SAVE SEASIDE LAGOON FOR THE PEOPLE, THE KIDS, THE WHOLESOME, HEALTHY COASTAL RECREATION THAT DEFINES REDONDO BEACH CULTURE AND OF COURSE, THE LIFELONG RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN FORMING THERE FOR DECADES.

SO LET'S TAKE THAT GRANT MONEY NOW AND FIX IT UP TO HONOR THE PAST AND AS A WAY TO PAY OUR GOOD FORTUNE FORWARD TO THE NEXT GENERATIONS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO COMMENTS ON NO INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS ONLINE.

HOWEVER, WE DID RECEIVE FOUR ECOMMENTS. WE RECEIVED TWO WITH THE POSITION NOT STATED.

WE RECEIVED TWO WITH THE POSITION OF OPPOSE AND THEN 25 IN A POSITION OF SUPPORT.

OKAY. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS KRISTINA MILLER.

HI, KRISTINA. I'M GOING TO READ. I'M NERVOUS TO TALK.

I AM CHRISTINA MILLER. I'M, ACTUALLY. FIRST GOOD EVENING COUNCILMAN MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOME TIME TO SPEAK. I'M CHRISTINA MILLER FROM DISTRICT THREE.

I'M A 25 YEAR REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT, HOMEOWNER AND RETIRED AEROSPACE ENGINEER AND DESIGN AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

I'M ASKING YOU TO KEEP THE SEASIDE LAGOON DECISION FOCUSED ON THE PUBLIC PROJECT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STUDIED, DESIGNED, DISCUSSED AND FUNDED. NOT A NEW CONCEPT TO DELAY OR DERAIL PHASE ONE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL WAVE POOL CONCERNS I BELIEVE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. FIRST WE'RE HEARING THAT APPROVAL OF PHASE ONE SHOULD SOMEHOW BE TIED TO A NEW WAVE POOL IDEA. IT SHOULDN'T. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT DESIGN.

EVERY MAJOR PROJECT GOES THROUGH REVISIONS, ENGINEERING CHANGES, COST ADJUSTMENTS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

THAT'S WHAT DESIGN WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THE DESIGN PROCESS IS FOR.

THE HARBOR COMMISSIONER RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT SAFE ONE, PHASE ONE.

THOSE CONCERNS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, BUT WORKING THROUGH LEGITIMATE CONCERNS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ABANDONING A TWO YEAR PUBLIC PROCESS TO PURSUE ONE PRIVATELY PROPOSED CONCEPT. SECONDLY, THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS SIMPLY DO NOT ADD UP.

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ROUGHLY FOUR RIDES AN HOUR, EIGHT HOURS A DAY, 65 365 DAYS A YEAR, THAT'S ABOUT 11,000 RIDES ANNUALLY. EVEN GENEROUSLY ASSUMING $1.7 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE, A PROJECT COSTING MORE THAN $150 MILLION WOULD TAKE OVER 85 YEARS TO RECOVER THIS INITIAL INVESTMENT ALONE.

AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE MAINTENANCE, STAFFING, UTILITIES, INSURANCE, REPAIRS OR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

WE'VE ALSO HEARD COMPARISONS TO THE EL SEGUNDO WAVE POOL PROPOSAL, WHICH IS BEING CONSIDERED TODAY AS WELL.

THE THE PROPONENTS HAVE SAID REDONDO'S FACILITY WOULDN'T COMPETE BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER.

BUT THINK ABOUT IT. IF IT IS A SMALLER WAVE POOL, WHY WOULD PEOPLE PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR A SMALLER A MORE LIMITED WAVE EXPERIENCE? AND IF YOU CAN'T CHARGE PREMIUM PRICES, HOW DOES THE PROPOSED REVENUE WORK? YOU CAN'T ARGUE THE FACILITY WILL BE SMALLER AND THEREFORE NOT COMPETE.

AND WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ASSUMING IT WILL COMMAND PREMIUM PRICES AND GENERATE MORE REVENUE TO JUSTIFY A $150 150 MILLION PLUS INVESTMENT, THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP. THIRD, THE TIMING DESERVES SCRUTINY.

THE CITY IS IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE BEACH LIFE REGARDING SEASIDE LAGOON.

WHILE THIS NEW COMMERCIAL CONCEPT IS BEING INTRODUCED AND EXISTING AGREEMENTS HAS A DEFINED TIMELINE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT PROVES ANYONE'S MOTIVES, BUT IT DOES RAISE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THESE DECISIONS ARE CONNECTED AND WHETHER CHANGING DIRECTION WOULD AFFECT THE CITY'S NEGOTIATING POSITION.

SO MY REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL IS STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROVE PHASE ONE WORK THROUGH THE FEEDBACK RAISED BY THE HARBOR COMMISSION.

OH, MY TIME IS UP. OKAY. ANYWAYS. THANK YOU. KEEP THE PARK PUBLIC PARK.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THE COUNCIL CANNOT, WE'RE NOT VOTING UP OR DOWN ON A WAVE POOL TONIGHT.

IT'S NOT AGENDIZED. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THE DOCUMENTS AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION, THE DIRECTING STAFF TO GO AHEAD WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR NOT.

THAT'S THE DECISION TONIGHT. NOT WHETHER WE GO FOR A WAVE POOL.

THAT'S WE'VE NOT HEARD ENOUGH, NOT AGENDIZED IT.

SO THAT'S NOT THE DECISION BEFORE US. I JUST WANT WOULD LIKE YOU TO COUCH YOUR COMMENTS TO WITH THAT RESPECT.

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LET'S SEE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? WE DO. NANCY SKIBA.

WHO WAS IT? NANCY. NANCY. GO AHEAD. NANCY. GOOD EVENING.

NANCY. DISTRICT 4 26 YEAR RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH.

AND I WAS WATCHING THE MEETING LAST NIGHT OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION.

AND THE CHAIRPERSON APPEARED TO BE DISTRESSED BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THEY SUPPORT GOING INTO PHASE ONE AND PROCEEDING WITH THAT.

BECAUSE HE SAID THAT THE CURRENT PHASE ONE IS LIKE UPSIDE DOWN FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE.

WELL, THEY NEED TO FIND WHAT THE COMMON GROUND IS THAT THEY CAN DO THESE REPAIRS, RENOVATIONS AND FIX THIS THING AND GO FORWARD WITH IT FINALLY.

ALSO THIS IDEA OF A WAVE POOL, THEY CAN BUILD A WAVE POOL ANYPLACE ELSE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE THE PRIVATE CLUB.

RIGHT THERE. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS AND I THANK YOU, DOUG, FOR YOUR COMMENTS TOO.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST GOT HANDED A BUNCH OF CARDS AND I MISPLACED OR MIXED THEM UP.

DID I CALL CHRISTINE MILLER? YES. YES. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE IS CARLOS.

I CAN'T READ MASA OR MEZA. I CAN'T CAN'T READ YOUR HANDWRITING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CARLOS MEZA, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED WAVE POOL AT SEASIDE LAGOON.

MY FAMILY HAS CALLED THE SOUTH BAY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS, AND WITH ME TONIGHT IS MY DAUGHTER, TEAGAN, ONE OF TWO DAUGHTERS WHO ATTEND REDONDO UNION HIGH SCHOOL AND COMPETE ON THE SURF TEAM.

TEAGAN IS AN EIGHT TIME NATIONAL SURF CHAMPIONSHIP CHAMPION WHO GREW UP IN SURFING, SURFING AT SAPPHIRE STREET IN REDONDO BEACH.

I WANTED YOU TO MEET A LOCAL SURFER WHO HAS FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH WAVE POOLS AND UNDERSTANDS THEIR VALUE.

TEAGAN BEGAN TRAINING IN WAVE POOLS WHEN SHE WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

SHE SURFED AT FACILITIES AT LEMOORE, CALIFORNIA, WACO, TEXAS, AND MOST RECENTLY VIRGINIA BEACH, WHERE SHE WON THE RIP CURL GROMSEARCH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

WAVE POOLS HAVE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN HER DEVELOPMENT.

THEY PROVIDE CONSISTENT CONDITIONS WHERE SURFERS IMPROVE TECHNIQUE, BUILD CONFIDENCE AND TRAIN SAFELY.

THEY ALSO GIVE BEGINNERS, CHILDREN, ADAPTIVE ATHLETES AND PEOPLE WITH OCEAN EXPERIENCE A CONTROLLED PLACE TO LEARN.

I UNDERSTAND A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, FINANCES, PUBLIC ACCESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, AND LONG TERM OPERATIONS.

THOSE QUESTIONS DESERVE CLEAR ANSWERS. THEY ALSO DESERVE A FULL AND FAIR EVALUATION BEFORE THE CITY CLOSES THE DOOR ON THIS OPPORTUNITY.

DONE RESPONSIBLY, A WAVE POOL WOULD TRANSFORM SEASIDE LAGOON INTO A YEAR ROUND DESTINATION.

IT WOULD SERVE LOCAL FAMILIES, STRENGTHEN YOUTH RECREATION, SUPPORT OUR SURF CULTURE, CREATE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND IMPROVE THE HARBOR FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. REDONDO BEACH HAS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD SOMETHING OF LASTING VALUE.

WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE IN TIME WILL SHAPE THE COMMUNITY FOR GENERATIONS.

PLEASE DO NOT SETTLE FOR THE SMALLEST OR EASIEST OPTION BEFORE FULLY EXAMINING THE LARGER VISION.

GIVEN THIS PROPOSAL THE SERIOUS PUBLIC REVIEW IT DESERVES.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK BIGGER AND BUILD SOMETHING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS REDONDO BEACH FAMILIES WILL BE PROUD OF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR VICTORY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? FOLKS, PLEASE CLEAR THE DOORWAY AND SIT DOWN. I'M TALKING TO THE TWO OF YOU IN THE BACK THERE.

IF YOU COULD COME, FOLKS, PLEASE SIT DOWN. OKAY.

THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS CHRIS BROWN.

OKAY, FOLKS, I'M ASKING YOU TO COOPERATE. OKAY.

HANDS UP IF YOU LIKE SOMETHING. THUMBS DOWN IF YOU DON'T.

I WON'T. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE SHOUT OUTS.

OKAY, CHRIS. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS. AND I KNOW BEING A CITY COUNCIL PERSON IS SOMETIMES A THANKLESS TASK.

SO I DO LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I ALWAYS LIKE TO KIND OF LEAD WITH THAT. THIS ISSUE TO ME IS, IS REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I HAVE TWO YOUNG KIDS AND I JUST HOPE THAT THEY GET A BETTER VERSION OF SEASIDE LAGOON THAN I'VE HAD THROUGH MY WHOLE LIFE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW DOES THAT.

I'VE ALSO BEEN WATCHING INTENTLY WITH THE HARBOR COMMISSION, AND THE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS,

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LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, 5 OR 6 YEARS IN SOME CASES.

AND THEY LOOKED AT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND THEY SAID IT WAS ALMOST UNRECOGNIZABLE.

I THINK YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THAT. AND I WOULD ALSO UNDERSCORE THAT IT WAS SEVEN ZERO.

IT WAS A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. IT WAS NOT A CONTENTIOUS FOUR THREE VOTE WHERE SOME PEOPLE FELT ONE WAY AND IT WAS A UNIFIED VOICE OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN INVOLVED THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

AND WE'RE SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS ALMOST UNRECOGNIZABLE.

WE CAN DO BETTER. AND I WOULD JUST TONIGHT REALLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION AND FOLLOW THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

OKAY. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS JEFF MILLER.

HI, COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US.

I, TOO, AM A NEAR 50 YEAR RESIDENT HERE. I MAY NOT LOOK IT, BUT IT'S TRUE.

I WENT TO SEASIDE LAGOON WHEN I WAS A KID. MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE.

I TOOK MY NOW TEENAGE KIDS THERE MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I TOOK THEM THERE ONCE OR TWICE.

THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE ONCE OR TWICE BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER OPEN.

IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT WASN'T THERE IN SEPTEMBER.

IT WASN'T THERE IN OCTOBER. IT WASN'T THERE IN THE EVENINGS.

IT WAS NEVER OPEN. THIS NEW PHASE ONE APPROACH DOES NOTHING TO CHANGE THAT.

IT IS AN INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT OF 5 TO 10%, WHICH MAKES IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME ISSUE 10, 20 YEARS FROM NOW OF A SPOT THAT IS SITTING THERE UNUSED MOST OF THE TIME.

THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND IN BUSINESS IS THE SUNKEN COST FALLACY IS I'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME DOING THIS.

WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY IN THIS. WE MUST MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL OF THIS.

THAT DOESN'T WORK IN REAL BUSINESS. AND IT SHOULDN'T WORK IN REAL CITY GOVERNMENT.

WE SHOULD LOOK FOR THINGS THAT ARE MORE THAN INCREMENTAL. WE SHOULD LOOK FOR THINGS THAT ARE MONUMENTAL AND CHANGEABLE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS HERE. SO I THINK THIS CURRENT PHASE ONE APPROACH DOES NOT LEAD TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS ON ZOOM? NO. OKAY. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS JAY GLEASON.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JAY GLEASON.

I'M A 35 YEARS SOUTH BAY RESIDENT. AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING HERE I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT FINANCES FOR THIS WAVE POOL TO BASICALLY LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, LIKE WACO, TEXAS. OKAY, THAT WAVE POOL WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT WAS BUILT HERE IN AMERICA.

PEOPLE TRAVEL TO WACO, TEXAS TO GO SURF IN THAT WAVE POOL.

OKAY. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT TO WACO, TEXAS, TO GO FROM ALL OVER MY FRIENDS, WE'VE GONE TO WACO, TEXAS TO DO THAT. AND ANOTHER POINT ABOUT WAVE POOLS ARE OKAY.

YOU SEE, YOU SAY, YOU KNOW IT'S $100, $150, BUT KIDS CAN ALSO GO IN THERE AND USE THE USE THE SHORE POUND.

SO AFTER THE FIRST SET BREAKS, THEN IT TURNS INTO LITTLE ROLLERS AND KIDS GO IN THERE AND PLAY AND THEY HAVE A BALL.

SO THIS PLAN DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

IT ENHANCES THE SEASIDE LAGOON. IT KEEPS IT. IT PUTS IN THE BARBECUES, IT PUTS IN THE GAS BARBECUES.

IT PUTS IN A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WASH THEIR HANDS.

IT PUTS A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT TO KEEP IT.

AND THEN JUST ADD THIS WONDERFUL ADDITION. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE ABOUT THE ECONOMICS, OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL, THE WAY THESE WAVE POOLS MAKE MONEY.

HALF OF THE MONEY COMES FROM THE ENTRY FEES. THE REST COMES FROM THE ANCILLARY YOU KNOW, THE, ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANTS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. SO HERE'S THE FACTS FROM 2022, EXCLUDING THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, THE WACO SURF POOL HAS GENERATED AN ESTIMATED $100 MILLION TO $144 MILLION IN CUMULATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE CITY OF WACO AND MCLENNAN COUNTY SINCE 2022.

VISITOR AND HOSPITALITY SPENDING 80 MILLION TO 110 MILLION, DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY HIGH SPENDING OUT OF STATE AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVELERS WHO REQUIRE MULTI-DAY STAYS DIRECTLY BENEFITING LOCAL HOTELS, SHORT TERM RENTALS, RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL BUSINESSES.

MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE 15 MILLION TO 25 MILLION GENERATED THROUGH LOCAL SALES TAXES, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, SALES TAX, SHARING AGREEMENTS, ETC. FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS REGIONAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, FIRE PROTECTION, PUBLIC EMERGENCY SERVICES, OPERATIONAL SPEND AND LOCAL ECOSYSTEM.

8 TO $10 MILLION SUSTAINED THROUGH DIRECT FACILITY, EMPLOYMENT MANAGEMENT, SURF COACHES, LIFEGUARDS,

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HOSPITALITY STAFF, ETC. RECURRING CONTRACTS WITH LOCAL FOOD AND BEVERAGE DISTRIBUTORS, MAINTENANCE CREWS, ETC.. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO TURN THIS INTO THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

JUST DON'T THROW THIS IDEA OUT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO EXPLORE FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF REDONDO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE, NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. NEXT ONE I HAVE IS CARISSA WRIGHT.

HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CARISSA WRIGHT AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS.

I AM ALSO A LOCAL REALTOR AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHO ARE BORN AND RAISED HERE.

I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT I LOVE THIS CITY MORE THAN ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, AND THERE'S NOTHING I WANT MORE THAN TO SEE REDONDO BEACH THRIVE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PLANNING FOR SEASIDE LAGOON HAS BEEN UNDERWAY FOR YEARS, AND I RESPECT THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT HAVE GONE INTO THE PROCESS.

AT THE SAME TIME, I DO BELIEVE A LARGE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY WAS UNAWARE OF THE PLANS AND DID NOT HAVE A MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THEM OR SPEAK UP.

AND THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT. I'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE ADVOCATING FOR THE CURRENT PLAN TALK ABOUT THEIR BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES OF SEASIDE LAGOON FROM 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO, AND I DO THINK THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE MEMORIES.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE EXPERIENCE THAT MANY OF THE FAMILIES I KNOW TODAY ARE HAVING.

AS A REALTOR IN THIS COMMUNITY, I AM IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH HUNDREDS OF YOUNG FAMILIES.

I ALSO RECENTLY DID AN INFORMAL POLL OF TEN YOUNG FAMILIES, ALSO IN DISTRICT ONE, WHO HAVE CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF TEN.

ONLY TWO OF THESE FAMILIES HAD EVER TAKEN THEIR CHILDREN TO SEASIDE LAGOON.

COLLECTIVELY, THOSE FAMILIES HAVE 24 CHILDREN.

ONLY FIVE OF THOSE CHILDREN HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED IT.

AND I HEARD MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE MYSELF.

DESPITE LIVING HERE FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS, I'VE NEVER FELT COMFORTABLE TAKING MY OWN CHILDREN THERE BECAUSE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE WATER, THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITIES, AND THE LACK OF INVESTMENT IN THE SPACE.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT SEASIDE LAGOON TO STAY THE SAME.

I WANT TO BETTER UTILIZE THIS INCREDIBLE WATERFRONT SPACE AND CREATE SOMETHING RESIDENTS ACTUALLY WANT TO USE.

CREATING A MORE ATTRACTIVE, ACTIVE AND WELCOMING WATERFRONT COULD ALSO BENEFIT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WHEN WE GIVE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS MORE REASONS TO SPEND TIME AT THE WATERFRONT, WE CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT NEARBY RESTAURANTS, SHOPS AND OTHER BUSINESSES. A VIBRANT WATERFRONT CAN SUPPORT THE BROADER LOCAL ECONOMY AND HELP MAKE THIS AREA A DESTINATION PEOPLE WANT TO RETURN TO.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT 30 YEARS AND NOT SIMPLY PRESERVE WHAT WORKED 30 YEARS AGO.

MY CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP HERE NOW. THEIR FRIENDS ARE GROWING UP HERE NOW.

I WANT THEM TO USE SEASIDE LAGOON AND SOMEDAY BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR OWN CHILDREN THERE.

IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY AND END UP WITH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME UNDERUTILIZED SPACE THAT ANOTHER GENERATION OF LOCAL FAMILIES DON'T USE.

SO I AM ASKING YOU, ARE WE THINKING BIG ENOUGH? LET'S ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER ISSUES. BUT LET'S ALSO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL, SAFE, ACTIVATED COMMUNITY SPACE WITH AMENITIES THAT GIVE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS A REASON TO COME STAY AND ENJOY THE WATERFRONT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE PROUD OF FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS LOCAL BUSINESSES, STRENGTHENS OUR WATERFRONT AND GIVES FAMILIES A REASON TO SPEND MORE TIME HERE.

PLEASE DON'T JUST PRESERVE SEASIDE LAGOON'S PAST. GIVE THE NEXT GENERATION A REASON TO CREATE THEIR OWN MEMORIES. HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? YES, WE HAVE JOHN MARCWESTON.

GO AHEAD JOHN? ARE YOU THERE, JOHN? OKAY. WE'LL GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO REALLY ESSENTIALLY SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOUR LAST SPEAKER SAID.

I'VE NOT BEEN A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF REDONDO.

I RETIRED IN 1971. WE'VE SPENT THE ENSUING TIME LIVING DIRECTLY AROUND THE LAGOON. WE'VE LIVED IN THE PORTOFINO APARTMENTS, AND IN THE MOST WESTERN UNITS OF THE VILLAGE WOULD ACTUALLY SEE THE LAGOON FROM OUR DECKS. WALKING BY IT MULTIPLE TIMES EVERY DAY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE NOT THINKING BIG ENOUGH THAT THE LEAVING OVER IS MORE LIPSTICK ON A PIG THAN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MEMORABLE 40 OR 50 YEARS FROM NOW, AS OPPOSED TO SMALL CHANGES THAT REALLY AREN'T GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOCATION.

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SO I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER A BIGGER PICTURE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE LAST CARD I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS RYAN HARRIS.

UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY MORE. GOT IT. OKAY. RYAN HARRIS.

I'M SORRY. WHAT ABOUT THESE HERE? THE TWO THAT WERE FROM THE NON-AGENDA ITEMS. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, SIR. OKAY.

I'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THESE. GO AHEAD. SIR. SORRY.

ALOHA. COUNCIL AND MAYOR. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY I'M THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL SURFBOARD SHAPER THAT WILL SPEAK TONIGHT.

AND IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO THIS WAVE POOL IDEA.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THE SOUTH BAY FOR 25 YEARS, AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH REGARD TO THE LAGOON.

IT'S AN ICONIC LOCATION, BUT IT KIND OF CRUSHES MY SOUL THAT IT'S ONLY OPEN, THAT SPACE IS ONLY OPEN THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

I'VE BEEN A BIT OF AN EXPERT IN THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO WAVE POOLS.

I'VE SURFED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND I KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT THEM, AND I JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THOSE PLANS.

SURFERS LOVE WAVE POOLS, BUT WE'RE ALSO PRETTY PICKY.

IF THEY'RE NOT VERY LONG, IF THE WAVES ARE SHORT, THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR IN PALM SPRINGS THAT'S NOT DOING VERY WELL BECAUSE THE WAVES ARE SO SHORT. BUT I THINK BEING A REDONDO RESIDENT, LIVING MAYBE HALF A MILE FROM THIS SITE I THINK IT'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CARD.

CARDS. CARDS. WE'LL LET THE GENERAL AUDIENCE SPEAK.

SO LET'S SEE. WALT HOWELLS, I'M SORRY. BEFORE YOU COME DOWN, WALT.

ANYBODY ONLINE? YES. JOAN IRVINE. GO AHEAD JOAN.

JOAN IRVINE. DISTRICT ONE. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T STUDIED THIS ENOUGH TO GIVE AN EDUCATED OPINION.

BUT THEY TALK ABOUT HISTORY, YOU KNOW. DO YOU REALIZE THAT BACK IN THE EARLY 1900S, REDONDO BEACH WAS CONSIDERED THE TOP RESORT OF ALL OF CALIFORNIA THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE GOING TO.

ON OUR PIER, WE HAD A ROLLER COASTER. WE HAD A PLUNGE THAT THE ECONOMICS I DON'T KNOW THE ECONOMICS, BUT WE WERE ATTRACTING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF HAVING THOSE TYPE OF FEATURES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT ALSO WE NEED MONEY.

YOU WERE TALKING AT ONE POINT DURING A MEETING, MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE NEW MARINE CENTER SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE ATTRACTING PEOPLE AND ATTRACTING KIDS. AND SO IT WOULD BE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE DOWN TO OUR WATERFRONT.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS DESIGNED BRINGS PEOPLE DOWN AND PAYS FOR ITSELF.

I KNOW IT'S PUBLIC LAND, BUT GUESS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN REDONDO HAS AN ROI AND THAT WE'RE NOT ENDING UP HAVING TO COVER COSTS THAT US AS RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO OR WEREN'T EXPECTING TO.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE.

WE WERE I WON'T GO INTO THE POLITICS OF IT, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WE WERE TOLD NO NEW TAXES.

AND GUESS WHAT? THERE'S NEW TAXES. SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING, YOU KNOW, LOOK, 30 OR 40 YEARS OUT, LOOK WHAT'S GOING TO BE BRINGING THE PEOPLE INTO OUR CITY AND THE REVENUE INTO OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S THE LAST CARD.

ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? YEAH. MIA KARTSONIS. WAS NEXT.

DID HE HAVE. I'M SORRY, DID DOUG. DID HE HAVE A CARD? I'M. WE'LL GET TO. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO, MIA KARTSONIS IS ONLINE.

OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S NOT. WALT, COME ON DOWN.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE FIRST.

WE'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU. OKAY? GOT IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

WALT HOWELLS, DISTRICT TWO, LONG TIME RESIDENT OF 80 YEARS.

I'VE HEARD IT ALL TONIGHT. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE SPEAKERS PROBABLY FEELINGS ABOUT THE LAGOON.

I KNEW BILL BRAND PERSONALLY. HE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.

BILL WAS ADAMANT ABOUT GETTING THE LAGOON REBUILT AND NOT USING SEAWATER, BUT BRINGING IN FRESH WATER AND A

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NEW HYDRAULIC SYSTEM TO MONITOR IT. WE SPOKE EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK BILL WOULD PROBABLY BE TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE, THINKING ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN GONE INTO THIS, THIS LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT.

AND, NOW SOMETHING IS COMING IN AT THE 11TH HOUR, AND WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THE COASTAL COMMISSION WITH AN APPROVAL.

I'M AGAINST IT. I JUST THINK IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER FOR REDONDO BEACH TO GO FORWARD WITH A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE ON PUBLIC LAND. BILL FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT FOR THAT TO KEEP PUBLIC LANDS PUBLIC AND MORE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW BACK TO ONLINE. HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND. OH, SORRY. SORRY. I WAS JUST SAYING, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MIA KARTSONIS. SPEAKING TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF SHADE HOTEL REDONDO BEACH.

AS IMMEDIATE WATERFRONT NEIGHBORS, WE STRONGLY SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT.

SEASIDE LAGOON IS A CHERISHED LOCAL LANDMARK, BUT RELYING ON AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACING ONGOING WATER QUALITY PENALTIES IS SIMPLY NO LONGER SUSTAINABLE. MODERNIZING THE LAGOON WITH A HIGH EFFICIENCY FILTRATION SYSTEM, UPGRADED ADA ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES AND REFRESHED PUBLIC AMENITIES IS A CRITICAL INVESTMENT IN REDONDO BEACH'S FUTURE. THIS PROJECT DELIVERS THREE MAJOR WINS FOR OUR CITY.

SAFETY AND RELIABILITY. A MODERN RECIRCULATING FILTRATION SYSTEM ENSURES SAFE, UNINTERRUPTED RECREATION FOR LOCAL FAMILIES WITHOUT MIDSEASON EMERGENCY CLOSURES.

ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE ELIMINATING DIRECT FLOW THROUGH DISCHARGE PROTECTS OUR HARBOR'S MARINE ECOSYSTEM, WHILE BRINGING THE CITY INTO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH STATE HEALTH STANDARDS.

ECONOMIC GROWTH A VIBRANT WATERFRONT IS THE ENGINE OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY AND OUR ECONOMY.

A MODERNIZED PARK DRIVES ESSENTIAL FOOT TRAFFIC TO NEARBY RESTAURANTS, SHOPS, SHOPS AND HOTELS, WITH MAJOR REGIONAL EVENTS ON THE HORIZON, INCLUDING BEACHLIFE AND THE 2028 OLYMPIC GAMES.

A FULLY OPERATIONAL HARBOR PRECINCT MAXIMIZES SALES TAX AND HOTEL TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND OUR ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES.

REVITALIZING THIS THREE ACRE PARCEL REPLACES AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH A PREMIER ANCHOR THAT BENEFITS RESIDENTS, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND VISITORS ALIKE. ON BEHALF OF SHADE HOTEL, WE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF ADVANCING THE SEASIDE LAGOON REHABILITATION PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

JUST COME ON DOWN. DAVE IS WAVING HIS HAT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. STEVE EDWARDS, DISTRICT TWO. I THINK I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE TALKS OUT HERE.

I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE EVALUATED. HOLD OFF ON THE COASTAL COMMISSION SUBMITTAL AND STUDY IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YOU HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COULD WORK ON BEHALF OF DOING RESEARCH FOR IT.

AND GOOD PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS INVOLVE PUBLIC THAT IS INVOLVED AND THIS PUBLIC SEEMS INVOLVED.

GROUND LEASES WORK. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? YES. MARY DELAHUNTY. GO AHEAD. MARY? ARE YOU THERE? MARY. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE TAKE SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES I'M HERE. OH, GO AHEAD, GENTLEMEN. IT'S HARD TO FIND THE UNMUTE.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES, I LOVE THE LAGOON, SO I LIKE THE TWO SPEAKERS AGO.

I WOULD LOVE TO PRESERVE THE LAGOON. I LOVE SEEING FAMILIES CELEBRATE THEIR DAY OFF TOGETHER AT OUR WATERFRONT.

AND IT IS SO FAMILY FRIENDLY. AND KIDS, I THINK THE WAVE PARK IS BEAUTIFUL.

IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB OR TERRANEA.

AS A HYGIENIST. NOW I'M A HYGIENIST. PEOPLE DON'T EVEN LIKE TO PAY $150 TO GET THEIR TEETH CLEANED.

WE SEE PEOPLE PUSHING APPOINTMENTS OUT. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW A FAMILY WITH MULTIPLE KIDS CAN PAY $150 PER HOUR PER KID.

HOW OFTEN? ONCE A MONTH. ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS.

ONCE A YEAR. LIKE THE FINANCE OF IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE SO OPEN TO CHILDREN OF ALL AGES.

I MEAN, I KNOW THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE AS WITH SO MANY GOOD SURF SPOTS RIGHT ALONG OUR WATERFRONT, THAT IT WOULD BE JUST A CERTAIN FEW OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE PAYING THAT MONEY ON A REGULAR BASIS, I THINK. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. I, OF COURSE, I LIKE THE SEASIDE TOO, WITH THE SAND, IF IT WAS POSSIBLE WITH THE CLOSED SYSTEM. I KNOW THE EARLY RENDITIONS HAD THE SALT WATER, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS THAT WE COULD DO TO RAISE MONEY, LIKE THE BOTANIC GARDENS,

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WHERE THEY PUT LIGHTS AND OTHER EVENTS THAT DRAW FAMILIES TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARK COLE.

A LIFELONG REDONDO RESIDENT HOMEOWNER. LIVED IN DISTRICT TWO FOUR FIVE, TRYING TO GET THEM ALL.

BUT I HAVEN'T QUITE GOT THERE YET. SO MUCH TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC.

IT'S A SUPER INTERESTING AND SUPER EXCITING TIME TO BE A REDONDO RESIDENT.

I THINK WE'RE MAYBE AT THE PRECIPICE OF A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY HERE.

AND I THINK YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING, BUT I WOULD SUPER ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO POTENTIALLY STUDY THIS, THIS NEW OPTION. I WANT THAT SPACE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I WANT IT TO BE AMAZING. I'M A NINE TIME CATALINA CLASSIC FINISHER, OCEAN LIFEGUARD, PADDLED LANAKILA PRETTY MUCH DONE ALMOST EVERY ACTIVITY IN THE HARBOR.

SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT KING HARBOR YACHT CLUB. LIKE I JUST LOVE THE OCEAN AND I LOVE OUR HARBOR AND I LOVE REDONDO AND I WANT WHAT'S BEST.

AND I THINK I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO POTENTIALLY DEVELOP A WAVE POOL WHILE RETAINING MOST, IF NOT ALL THE ASPECTS OF SEASIDE LAGOON, POTENTIALLY EVEN CREATING A BETTER LAGOON THAN WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED WITH THIS PHASE ONE RENOVATION, WHERE YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH GETTING A WORSE LAGOON. YOU'RE GETTING A SHALLOWER POOL, YOU'RE GETTING A CONCRETE BOTTOM, YOU'RE GETTING NOT HEATED WATER, YOU'RE GETTING FRESH WATER. IT REALLY CHANGES THE CHARACTER OF WHAT SEASIDE LAGOON IS AND WHAT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

SO I'M NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE SAVE THE LAGOON BECAUSE LIKE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING DOESN'T SAVE THE LAGOON.

AND ONE LAST NOTE ON MAYOR BRAND, REST IN PEACE.

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SOUTH BAY BOARDRIDERS CLUB, AND MAYOR BRAND CAME AND ADDRESSED OUR CLUB SEVERAL TIMES.

HE WAS A DIE HARD SURFER, AND TO SAY THAT HE WOULDN'T AT LEAST BE INTERESTED IN A POTENTIAL WAVE POOL, I THINK MAYBE MISCHARACTERIZES HIS LEGACY. OBVIOUSLY HE WAS A FIGHTER FOR PUBLIC SPACES AND PARKLAND, AND I THINK WE'RE MAYBE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND TRY TO PLEASE EVERYONE.

LET'S INVESTIGATE IT. LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYONE ONLINE? YES. LAURA KASTNER. GO AHEAD, LAURA.

HI. I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE MUTE. HI MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M A MOM IN DISTRICT TWO. HOMEOWNER. 30 YEAR REDONDO BEACH RESIDENT.

I GUESS I COULD ALSO ADD, WHEN I LIVED IN MANHATTAN AND HERMOSA.

I GUESS THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M ASKING TO MOVE THE SEASIDE LAGOON BUT REBUILD IT FORWARD.

KEEP DOING THE WORK TO FUND FUTURE PHASES. PURSUE GRANTS, REQUEST STATE FUNDING, AND PRIORITIZE PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THE AMENITIES RESIDENTS NEED. WE DO NOT NEED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL WAVE POOL TO JUSTIFY INVESTING IN OUR OWN PUBLIC PARK, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT WOULD DECIMATE THE LAGOON TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT WE COULD NO LONGER CALL IT SEASIDE LAGOON AND NEED TO CALL IT OCEAN PARK. THE FAILURE TO CENTER CHILDREN IN THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN STAGGERING.

THEIR SWIMMING SPACE, THEIR SUMMER CAMPS AND AFFORDABLE RECREATION SHOULD BE PRIORITIES FROM THE BEGINNING.

WHY ARE FAMILIES HAVING TO FIGHT THIS HARD TO MAKE THEIR NEEDS MATTER? I AM DEEPLY TROUBLED BY HOW THIS IS UNFOLDING.

WHY IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL BEING TREATED AS THE ANSWER? WHILE RESIDENTS ARE STILL ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT COST, SWIMMING SPACE AND PUBLIC ACCESS? WHERE IS THAT SAME URGENCY TO FULLY FUND THE PUBLIC PROJECT? APPROVE THE PERMIT SUBMISSION, KEEP THE REHABILITATION GOING.

BRING RESIDENTS A CONCRETE FUNDING PLAN FOR THE REMAINING PHASES AND AMENITIES.

STOP MAKING A WAVE POOL SOUND LIKE THE PRICE WE HAVE TO PAY TO GET A BETTER SEASIDE LAGOON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

COME ON DOWN OR UP FROM WHERE YOU WERE SITTING.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE PUSH THIS BUTTON. MY NAME IS MINDY CZULEGER.

DISTRICT ONE. I'VE LIVED IN REDONDO 55 YEARS, ALTHOUGH I HOPE I DON'T LOOK IT.

AND A SHOUT OUT TO JEN KAZIMIERCZAK AT INDULGENCE FOR MY FACIALS AND CHRIS BROWN'S WIFE FOR MY NUTRITION PLAN.

BUT I'VE WORKED IN THE RIVIERA VILLAGE FOR 30 YEARS AS A MASSAGE THERAPIST, SO I HAVE A LONG TIME LOVE FOR REDONDO.

AND SOME OF YOU MAY EVEN KNOW MY GRANDPA BILL CZULEGER.

I DON'T LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING. I'M LIKE, MY THROAT IS LIKE, I'M READY TO PASS OUT.

PART OF ME FEELS LIKE THIS IS THE MICHIGAN FOOTBALL GAME.

THE CLOCK RAN OUT AND SOMEONE'S GIVEN AN EXTRA SECOND.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS. I APPRECIATE ALLEN, I APPRECIATE HIS DREAM.

I DON'T KNOW HIM. HE SEEMS LIKE A NICE GUY. I KNOW HIS WIFE.

ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THE WIFE'S AWESOME. ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

HE'S RAN BEACHLIFE SINCE 2019. HE KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THINGS PASSED.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ALREADY PAST THAT POINT.

SO IT FEELS LIKE. WE GOT A MINUTE LEFT AND HE'S COMING IN THROWING AN AUDIBLE.

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I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SURFING. I AM A WATER PERSON.

I GREW UP PLAYING VOLLEYBALL, GREW UP AT NOB HILL.

BUT I THINK THE PHRASE AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT SOUNDS HORRIBLE.

I FEEL LIKE THE PHRASE IS SELF-SERVING. WHO DOES IT HELP? THE BEACH CLUB PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THIS CLUB.

AND I DON'T BLAME HIM. I'D FEEL THE SAME WAY AND I'D PROBABLY DO THE SAME WAY IF I OWNED IT.

HE RUNS AN INCREDIBLE CONCERT SERIES THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AND A DISNEY CONCEPT AT THE LAGOON.

IT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT.

LIKE I SAID, I GREW UP AT NOB HILL. THE REDONDO BEACH FIREMAN TAUGHT ME BEACH VOLLEYBALL, I SURF, I'VE PADDLED THE MOLOKAI TO OAHU RACE. SO I'M, IN THE WATER AS MUCH AS I CAN.

I PLAYED PROFESSIONAL INDOOR AND BEACH VOLLEYBALL.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T MIND CHANGING THE CONCEPT OF THE LAGOON, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNITY FRIENDLY.

AND I THINK ALLEN HAS MENTIONED THAT HE JUST WANTS MORE FOOT TRAFFIC IN THE OFF SEASON, AND I DON'T BLAME HIM.

MAYBE FIND A WAY TO PUT A LAP POOL THERE AND KEEP A SIDE WITH THE SANDY BOTTOM FOR THE CHILDREN TO PLAY.

CHILDREN NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM BEFORE THEY SURF.

I'D LOVE A FEW VOLLEYBALL COURTS THERE. MY DAUGHTER SWAM AND PLAYED WATER POLO AT REDONDO UNION.

THE JUNIOR OLYMPIC WATER POLO WAS HELD OPPOSING YEARS.

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. ORANGE COUNTY GETS IT.

IT WOULD BE SO GREAT TO HAVE IT IN REDONDO AND THE EL SEGUNDO POOL AND OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

WHICH WOULD ALSO BE THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A STAY AND PLAY.

SO YOU HAVE TO STAY AT THE HOTEL TO PARTICIPATE.

IT WOULD HELP THE REVENUE. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND HERE, I KIND OF LIKE TO SEE IT MORE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ONLINE? YES. JACOB MARK. GO AHEAD. JACOB MARK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR THIS. THIS ALL, THIS TOPIC HAS GONE SIDEWAYS.

EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT A WAVE POOL. AND AS YOU MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, THIS VOTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAVE POOL.

THE MATTER AT HAND IS YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, OR LIKE ELIZABETH SAID, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN WAS PROPOSED IN 2024 AND IT WENT TO THE CITY.

THAT PLAN CONSISTED OF A SALTWATER POOL. IT CONSISTED OF A DEEP POOL.

THAT WAS A FULL SANDY BOTTOM. DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS THE PROJECT CAME BACK.

NOW IT'S A FRESH WATER POOL, NO LONGER A LAGOON.

THERE'S MINIMAL SAND AND IT'S FIVE FEET DEEP.

IT'S LOSING ALL THE CHARACTER THAT THE LAGOON HAS HAD.

SO WHEN I SAY VOTE NO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE VOTING FOR A WAVE POOL.

IT MEANS WE'RE PUSHING TO GET THE ORIGINAL VISION THAT ALL THE CITY CITIZENS WENT TO AND PROVIDED INPUT FOR WHAT THEY WANTED.

BECAUSE FROM 2024 TO 2026, WHAT HAPPENED AND CAME BACK TO HARBOR COMMISSION WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS THE VISION OF THE CITIZENS OF REDONDO BEACH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAVE POOL WAS HIJACKED THAT AND PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING CLEARLY AT WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT RAISING THE FUNDS TO GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VISION OF WHAT SEASIDE LAGOON SHOULD BECOME.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS AMY RUSSELL. I'VE BEEN A 30 SOME YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR, HOMEOWNER AND TAXPAYER.

YEAH. LOVE IT HERE. I WENT TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING LAST NIGHT AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR COMMENTS MEANT THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH. SO I WENT AND I HAD A LOOK AT THE KING HARBOR AMENITIES PLAN DRAFT.

IT'S A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN THAT CLEARLY HAD A LOT OF WORK AND CONSIDERATION PUT INTO IT.

IT INCLUDES COMMUNITY AND EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES ON THE SHORT PIER ACCOMMODATES CONCERT EVENTS AND IN ADDITION TO AN IMPROVED LAGOON EXPERIENCE, THE PLAN INCLUDED UTILIZATION NUMBERS FOR SEASIDE LAGOON AND PRESENTED SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT WERE NOT ADOPTED FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

ONE OF THOSE INCLUDED A WAVE POOL THAT THE PLAN INDICATED WOULD BE TOO LARGE TO BE FEASIBLE.

I GUESS MY CURIOSITY ABOUT A PROPOSED WAVE POOL, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A COOL THING, IS HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP TO GENERATE A FOUR FOOT WAVE, AND HOW MUCH IS LEFT FOR THE LAGOON, AND FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE CHILDREN THAT NEED TO THAT IS THE ORIGINAL AND INTENDED

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USE OF THAT PARK SPACE. PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED FURTHER, BUT THAT IS A CONCERN.

THE BLUE FOLDER LETTER FROM THE HARBOR COMMISSION.

MY OPINION IS AN IMMEDIATE REACTION TO THE PRESENTATION OF A BRAND NEW SHINY OBJECT THAT PROMISES A LOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT PROOF OR VETTING. PERHAPS SOME TIME NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.

ALL OF THE FEATURES AND FIGURES THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE PLAN AND THE CONCERNS OF THE HARBOR COMMISSION NEED TO BE COMPARED AND RECONCILED AND PERHAPS CONSIDERED AGAINST THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION YESTERDAY.

YOU HAVE A LOT TO CONSIDER. I UNDERSTAND. A WAVE POOL HAS BEEN CONSIDERED ALREADY IN THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH MORE THAN A COUPLE TIMES.

THERE WAS A PRESENTATION OR CONSIDERATION TO ATTACH IT TO THE DIVE N’ SURF BUSINESS.

THERE WAS SIMILARLY A CONSIDERATION FOR A WAVE POOL AS PART OF THE CENTERCAL DEVELOPMENT.

NEITHER OF THESE WAS IMPLEMENTED, BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN.

THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IN MY OPINION, PROFIT MAKING VENTURE DOES NOT BELONG IN A STATE REGIONAL PARK.

IT'S VERY UNLIKELY, IN MY OPINION, THAT THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT OPTION.

WHETHER WE HAVE SPENT MORE TIME, MONEY CONSIDERING IT OR NOT, THE FOOTPRINT REQUIRED AGAIN TO BUILD THE POOL WILL REDUCE THE THE SEASIDE LAGOON FOOTPRINT FOR FAMILIES AND THE PUBLIC FOR WHOM IT IS INTENDED.

THE PRIMARY BENEFICIARY OF THE WAVE POOL PROJECT IN THAT LOCATION IS THE CALIFORNIA SURF CLUB.

THE PROSPECT OF RICH KIDS PAYING 150 AND. OUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU FOR THE VERY GOOD WORK THAT YOU ALL DO ON OUR BEHALF.

THANK YOU. WE'LL GO ONLINE. LET'S WE GOT I THINK WE HAVE PEOPLE YET WHO WANT TO SPEAK.

SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, COME UP HERE AND SIT DOWN AND WE'LL KIND OF DO A, YOU KNOW, LEFT TO RIGHT FOR WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK IN WHAT ORDER.

SO WE'LL TAKE WHOEVER. IS THERE, SOMEONE ONLINE. YES.

CARMEN S. GO AHEAD. CARMEN. HI THERE. MY NAME IS CARMEN.

I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. PLEASE APPROVE PHASE ONE.

I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN IN SUPPORT OF STOPPING PHASE ONE.

THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO APPROVE PHASE ONE WANT TO KEEP THE SEASIDE LAGOON FROZEN IN AMBER, OR THAT WE DO NOT WANT ANY CHANGES. OF COURSE, WE'D ALL LIKE TO MODERNIZE IT.

I DON'T NEED TO KEEP HAVING THE MEMORIES THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED FROM AND AT THE SEASIDE LAGOON REPLAYING OVER AND OVER.

I LIKE TO SEE NEW THINGS TOO. MY PROBLEM WITH THE SUPPORTERS OF THE STOPPING PHASE ONE IS IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF AN IDEA, WHICH MIGHT INCLUDE A WAVE POOL, WE DON'T KNOW, THE PUBLIC WOULD ACTUALLY LOSE A HUGE PART OF THE PUBLIC FOOTPRINT FOR PRIVATE COMMERCIAL AMENITIES. PHASE ONE RESOLVES OUR WATER QUALITY FINES AND OPENS NEARLY AN ACRE OF LAWN AND SAND ALL SEASON. SO YES, PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, MODERNIZE IT, AND IT'S GOING TO STAY OPEN ALL YEAR AND WE CAN ALL MAKE NEW MEMORIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD SIR.

WHAT UP COUNCIL? YEAH. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY THAT MY NAME IS PACK LANDFAIR.

I OWN EL PORTO SURF SHOP AND LIVE IN EL PORTO.

WHAT UP EL PORTO? ALL RIGHT. WE RENT MORE SURFBOARDS THAN ANY OTHER BUSINESS IN THIS AREA.

WE ALSO DO LESSONS. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1996.

WE ALSO RUN THE EL PORTO COMMUNITY STORE. PLAYERS LIQUOR.

BEEN AROUND SINCE 1963. I LIVE UP THERE. I HEARD THAT THE REDONDO BEACH CITY COUNCIL IS MAKING SPECIAL BUSINESS DEALS WITH SURF BUSINESSES, SO I WANT TO THROW MY HAT INTO THE RING, DUDE.

YEAH, LET'S DO IT. WE CAN ALSO RUN A WAVE POOL, SO WE'LL DO IT.

AND YEAH, WE JUST WANT TO SIGN UP. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. LESLIE, I THINK YOU WANT TO LET HIM GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS KIM RIDLEY. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS.

I WAS BORN IN CULVER CITY. ALWAYS LOVED THE OCEAN.

MOVED TO OREGON, AND I'M BACK. I MOVED TO REDONDO BEACH BECAUSE IT'S AN AWESOME PLACE TO LIVE, I LOVE IT, I GO IN THE OCEAN EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR, NEVER WEAR A WETSUIT.

I HAVE FUN OUT THERE. IT'S A GREAT THING. I'VE BEEN TO THE SEASIDE LAGOON ONLY A HANDFUL OF TIMES, MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, DURING BEACHLIFE FESTIVAL AND THEN I'VE BEEN TO SOME EVENTS THERE, SOME OF THE PROPOSALS,

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YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LOOK AT STUFF THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES AND STATES DO, AND YOU'VE BEEN KIND OF MESSING AROUND WITH THIS SINCE 2024.

RIGHT. AND 2006, 2006, OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GO THROUGH, YOU CHANGE SOMETHING, YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE, YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, THIS WILL WORK, THIS WILL WORK. WHAT I SEE IS THE SEASIDE LAGOON SHOULD REMAIN THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

IT SHOULD HAVE SAND, IT SHOULD HAVE SALT WATER.

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF STUFF TO DO AROUND IT. I'VE NOTICED THERE ISN'T REALLY MUCH OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN BATHROOMS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS THERE ACTUALLY, THAT IS OPEN ALL YEAR ROUND, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO NOT FIND WAYS TO OPEN IT YEAR ROUND.

YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT BARBECUE PITS AND FIRE PITS AND STUFF THAT CAN BE IN THE LAGOON.

YOU DON'T NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT IN.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CULTURE. WE COULD DO SOME MUSIC STUFF YOU COULD USE THAT AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THEM ALL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO DO. THERE'S CAR CULTURE THAT CAN USE THE PARKING LOT AND THAT DOESN'T GET USED VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK THAT OVERALL, THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE OF REDONDO BEACH NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO HAVE FUN, ENJOY LIFE, YOU KNOW, MORE OUTDOOR SPACE, MORE TIME IN WATER, MORE TIME IN SALT WATER, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO BE IN REGULAR WATER, GO TO A FRICKING SWIMMING POOL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT FIGURE OUT WAYS TO ADD OTHER THINGS TO THE LAGOON AND MAKE IT YEAR ROUND. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO.

YOU CAN DO A PICNIC. YOU CAN GO SIT OUT THERE AND WATCH THE SUNSET FROM THERE.

IT'S STILL PRETTY. JUST THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE.

THINK ABOUT NOW AND LET'S KEEP IT SEASIDE LAGOON KEEP IT REDONDO BEACH.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

LESLIE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? HI. LESLIE CHZRAN, DISTRICT TWO, HARBOR COMMISSIONER OF SIX YEARS AND ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE SEASIDE LAGOON. I BELIEVE IN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PUBLIC SPACE AND COASTAL COMMISSION'S GOALS TO PRESERVE AND EXPAND PUBLIC ACCESS AND TO SERVE THE REGION AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE OCEAN HERE. WE SHOULD THEREFORE NOT ACCEPT WHAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE LAGOON TODAY.

ENHANCEMENTS MUST INCLUDE THE ESSENCE OF WHAT MAKES LAGOON UNIQUE TO OUR CITY AND REGION.

THESE ARE THE OCEAN LIKE FEATURES OF SALT WATER AND A SANDY BOTTOM, NOT SAND FOR ONLY A FEW FEET INTO THE LAGOON.

WHILE WE NO LONGER HAVE THE TWO DIVING PLATFORMS THAT WERE ONCE AT THE LAGOON, RETAINING DEEP WATER IS IMPORTANT.

GOING FROM THE CURRENT 9 TO 10FT IN THE DEEPEST AREAS TO THREE AND A HALF TO FIVE FEET LAGOON DOES NOT ACHIEVE THIS.

AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE OCEAN, A MANDATE FROM THE STATE FOR THIS FACILITY, IT PROVIDES A MEANS OF GETTING USED TO ABOVE THE HEAD WATER FOR ONE TO GAIN CONFIDENCE.

WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING OUR CHANNEL ON A SUP, YOU WANT THAT KID WHO FALLS OFF TO CONFIDENTLY GET BACK UP BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD EXPERIENCE IN OUR LAGOON ON DEEP WATER, MAKING IT A WADING POOL TO SAVE 1 TO $2 MILLION IN DEWATERING COSTS ON A 30 TO $35 MILLION FULL DESIGN IN THE NEAR TERM IS SHORTSIGHTED AND GOES AGAINST THE COMMUNITY'S WILL. WE ASKED FOR AND THIS BODY AGREED TO PURSUE ENTITLEMENTS FOR ALL FOUR PHASES FOR THE FULL DESIGN.

AND NOW WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE. THE HARBOR COMMISSION IDENTIFIED THAT THE SEA LEVEL RISE HAD NOT BEEN CONSIDERED, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS A STARTING REQUIREMENT. THAT'S A CRITICAL GAP.

I UNDERSTAND SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. I DEEP DOVE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS.

AS A MECHANICAL ENGINEER, I CAN SAY THAT YES, ADDING THE PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE SYSTEM DOES HELP, BUT THAT ONLY HELPS YOU FOR STATIC CONDITIONS THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN PRESSURE.

WE SHOULD NOT BE PLANNING FOR LAGOON THAT WE'RE GOING TO EMPTY EVERY SINGLE SEASON. BUT WE DO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR REPAIR CONTINGENCIES.

THOSE ARE STATIC CHANGES. KEY IS LOWERING THE WATER LEVEL.

NOW THE LOAD ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT CONCRETE IS NO LONGER BALANCED BY THE WATER ON THE TOP.

WAVE MOTION AND OSCILLATION OF THE TIDES CREATES CYCLICAL STRESSES.

AND THOSE ARE CHANGING DYNAMIC FORCES, WHICH A PRESSURE VALVE IS ONLY PART OF THE SOLUTION.

OTHER STRUCTURAL AND WATERPROOFING STRATEGIES MUST BE COMBINED IF WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN THIS FOR 2050 SEA LEVEL RISE.

WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, THE CONSULTANT MUST DESIGN FOR PERIODIC STRESSES, NOT JUST STATIC.

THE GRANT REQUIRES THAT THE LAGOON BE ENHANCED, NOT JUST WATER COMPLIANT.

MAINTENANCE. I'M LOSING TIME HERE. THE CITY. WE HAVE TO ENTER INTO THIS WITH

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THE UNDERSTANDING OF O&M COST. AND NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THAT WOULD BE NEGLIGENT TO PROCEED AT THIS TIME.

WE MUST ACTIVATE IT FOR 365 DAYS. THE LOOK AND FEEL IS ABANDONED IN THIS DESIGN.

THE DETAILS AREN'T ALL THERE. SLOWING DOWN IS REALLY FRUSTRATING, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR GENERATIONAL CHANGE.

AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE HARBOR COMMISSION, A NUMBER OF US ARE HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

OKAY. I THINK YOU'RE UP NEXT, SIR. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? THANK YOU, REDONDO CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PAUL BRYAN.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR REDONDO BEACH FOR 12 YEARS HOMEOWNER.

THE LAST 12 YEARS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A YOU KNOW, A DATA POINT.

LAST 12 YEARS I'VE LEFT REDONDO BEACH TO TRAVEL TO LEMOORE, CALIFORNIA.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS EVER BEEN TO LEMOORE, CALIFORNIA. NOT A PLACE YOU'D NORMALLY GO.

I WENT THERE TO PAY $70,000 TO SURF A WAVE FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY.

AS I LEFT, I WAS USHERED OUT TO ANOTHER GROUP THAT WAS PAYING $70,000 FOR AN EIGHT HOUR SESSION, STAYED IN HOTELS. I ATE LEMOORE, CALIFORNIA. I'VE GONE TO PALM SPRINGS IN THE SUMMER, LEFT REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA TO GO TO PALM SPRINGS, PAY ABOUT $250 AN HOUR TO SURF A WAVE, STAY IN A HOTEL, EAT AT THOSE RESTAURANTS LOCALLY. I'M LITERALLY GOING THIS WEEKEND TO WACO, TEXAS, TO GO SURF WAVE TO PAY ABOUT $200 AN HOUR, STAY IN HOTELS AND EAT AT FACILITIES THERE. I'VE NEVER BROUGHT MY THREE YEAR OLD TO THE LAGOON DUE TO LIMITED HOURS, THOUGH, IT'S ABOUT 0.75 MILES FROM ME. I THINK ALL THREE OF THOSE FACILITIES I'VE BEEN TO HAVE AMAZING PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND USE FOR FREE.

SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU GUYS A DATA POINT. I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUT ON A HUGE REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND A HUGE, A HUGE OPPORTUNITY AS WE'RE REVITALIZING THE WATERFRONT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY, SIR. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? YOU? YEAH. NO, YOU JUST MOVED IN. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? COME ON UP, TOM. YOU CAN. YOU GUYS DUKE IT OUT AND WE'LL.

WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. HELLO. MY NAME IS TOM BAUER, AND I AM A HARBOR COMMISSIONER BEEN LIVING HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

I WOULD KIND OF WANT TO JUST SIMPLIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

I WOULD LOVE IF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PRESERVING THE SEASIDE LAGOON OR GETTING SOMETHING THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

YEAH, OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S OKAY. BUT THIS IS REALLY A GIANT COMPROMISE.

REALLY, THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

SO WE'RE KIND OF PUNTING IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND I THINK WE'LL ALL BE UNHAPPY WITH THAT GOING FORWARD.

SO ALL THAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED IS TO KIND OF HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT, SET SOME AGGRESSIVE GOALS AND MAKE REALLY REVISIT THIS THING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. IF WE HAD MORE MONEY, WE WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT AND WE WOULD END UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS BETTER THAN THE SEASIDE LAGOON IS TODAY. LESLIE HAD ALSO MENTIONED SOME STUFF IN HERE THAT ABOUT MEASURE C, BECAUSE IT STATES THE GOAL IS TO EXPAND A SALTWATER LAGOON.

THE CITY REPORT STATES THAT THE CURRENT DESIGN.

THE CURRENT DESIGN BY DESIGN DOES NOT EXPAND THE LAGOON AND IT REMOVES SALTWATER, WHICH MEASURE C SAYS CAN BE DONE FOR WATER QUALITY BUT NOT FOR BUDGET.

THE CITY REPORT SAYS THE PROPOSAL STRENGTHENS CONNECTIONS TO THE HARBOR.

BUT HOW? WITH A SHALLOW FRESHWATER PARTIAL SAND BOTTOM WADING POOL, IT'S A WADING POOL.

REALLY, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY CREATING A COMMUNITY WADING POOL.

IT. AND IT HAS 45% LESS WATER. IT STATES THE PROJECT SUBSTANTIALLY ENHANCES THE LAGOON ADJACENT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

BUT HOW? BY ADDING THE BY. BY ADDING TEMPORARY FENCE THAT COULD BE ERECTED BY THE SAME PURPOSE TODAY TO OPEN UP SAND ACCESS AND REMOVING THE LARGE LUAU SHELTER FOR A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE INSTEAD.

YEAH. BOTTOM LINE IS, THIS ISN'T ENOUGH. IT IS A STEP BACKWARDS.

WE REALLY SHOULD KIND OF PAUSE. I FEEL JUST A PERSONAL OPINION.

MAYBE THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE. ONE THING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP DOES IS IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH MORE MONEY DOWN THERE TO DO SOMETHING RADICALLY DIFFERENT.

AND YOU COULD STRUCTURE IT SO THAT AFTER SO MANY YEARS, THE FACILITY REVERTS TO THE CITY.

THAT COULD BE PART OF THE DEAL. THE THIS THE NUMBERS PAN OUT ON THIS.

I MEAN, I HOPE YOU CAN ALL GO HOME AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, BUT THESE WAVE POOLS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE A LOT OF INCOME AND THEREFORE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM PRIVATE CORPORATIONS WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO INVEST THE MONEY TO MAKE THIS THING AMAZING.

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THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME THOUGH. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. NO. OKAY, I GUESS SHE LOST THE WRESTLING MATCH.

I HE LOOKED, HE LOOKED TOUGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

COUNCIL. MAYOR. MY NAME IS DAVIS. I ALSO WORK AT THE SHADE HOTEL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT WE AT THE HOTEL DO SUPPORT A WAVE POOL.

AND I THINK PERSONALLY, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ARE SPEAKING TO THE CONCERN THAT IT MAY ONLY BENEFIT ONE PERSON. AND AS SOMEONE THAT WORKS IN THAT AREA AND LIVES IN THAT AREA, I CAN I CAN SEE QUITE CLEARLY THAT IT WILL BENEFIT MANY OF US, INCLUDING MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM. WORKING AT A HOTEL, I SEE WE HAVE 54 ROOMS OVER THERE.

I SEE GUESTS COME IN AND OUT EVERY DAY AND NO ONE SPEAKS OF A LAGOON.

THE STAFF, THE GUESTS, WE. IT'S JUST NOT TALKED ABOUT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEND OUR GUESTS TO A SPACE THAT'S MORE MODERN AND AND UTILIZED.

WELL. I MOVED TO THIS AREA RECENTLY AFTER BEING BORN IN TORRANCE 30 YEARS AGO AND TO ME IT SEEMS THAT WE LIVE, ALL OF US, AND ONE OF THE BEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

I THINK TO MATCH THIS YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO EUROPE.

IT'S IT'S QUITE AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A GEM OF A LANDSCAPE.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT AND USE IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AS BEST AS WE CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU AUDIENCE FOR ABIDING. I APPRECIATE IT.

WE SEE YOUR WAVES AND YOUR THUMBS DOWN. ALL RIGHT.

HEY, MAYOR. HELLO, COUNCIL. I'M PETE DELGADO, 25 YEAR RESIDENT.

I ALSO RUN A SMALL BLOG AS A SIDE PROJECT, MUCH TO MY WIFE AND ACCOUNTANT CHAGRIN THAT STUDIES WAVE POOLS AND ARTIFICIAL SURF REEFS.

SO HOPEFULLY BRING SOME LIGHT TO SOME OF THE FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN AROUND.

BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO SAY AND ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION. I WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD TO SUBMIT THE PLANS TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION. SO JUST TO BE STRAIGHT UP FRONT, WE'VE GOT NEW INFORMATION WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS INFORMATION WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALLEN WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. IT JUST FEELS LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF NEW INFORMATION IS COMING TO LIGHT HERE. AND LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID TONIGHT, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO PAUSE AND CONSIDER THAT NEW INFORMATION BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE BEST LONG TERM INTEREST OF THE CITY. I ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT FACTS AND FIGURES.

AS YOU GUYS, IF YOU GUYS DO TAKE THE TIME, WHICH I HOPE YOU DO, TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES, JUST MAKE SURE YOU GET THE FACTS RIGHT. I'VE HEARD SOME MISINFORMATION TONIGHT. I HEARD THAT ONLY FOUR PEOPLE CAN BE IN THE WAVE POOL AT ONE TIME, WHICH IS CRAZY. IT'S 10 TO 20. I'VE HEARD THAT IT TAKES 2 TO 3 ACRES TO BUILD A WAVE POOL.

IT DOESN'T. IT CAN BE DONE IN 60,000FT² OR LESS.

WHICH LEAVES, IF I DID THE MATH RIGHT AROUND 115000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO JUST PAY THE GENERAL ADMISSION FEE WHEN WE HAVE THE WAVE POOL. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY.

IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MANY SMILES PER HOUR ARE GENERATED BY OPTION ONE VERSUS WAVE POOL OPTION, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF SMILES GENERATED ACROSS ALL DEMOGRAPHICS, WAY MORE SO WITH A WAVE POOL OPTION THAN THERE WILL BE WITH SOMETHING THAT'S BASICALLY A REBUILD OF WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S OPEN, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL USE IT, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL COME JUST TO SIT AROUND THE POOL AND NOT SURF AND ENJOY THE LIVE MUSIC THAT WE'VE HEARD MIGHT BE THERE TO ENJOY THE WHITEWATER BREAKS THAT IS INSIDE OF WHERE THE WAVES SURF.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA. THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A LOT MORE SMILES AROUND REDONDO BEACH, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS SHOULD CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY. THAT'S IT. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ONLINE? YES. CHRIS. DRULINER. IS THAT CHRIS? DID YOU SAY YES? CHRIS. CHRIS? CHRIS. ARE YOU THERE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY? YES. OH, GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME AND PUTTING THIS ON MISS MANZANO. PETE HIT ON A COUPLE REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS, AND IT'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC TO ME.

I'M A. I'M A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF HERMOSA BEACH.

AND NOT ONLY ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF KIDS IN THE ADOLESCENT YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I CAN SPEAK FOR YOU, PETE, THE OLD GUYS LIKE US THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME TO THE WAVE PARK TO NOT ONLY SERVE,

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BUT WATCH THE KIDS SURF AND MAYBE GRAB A BEER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S A LIQUOR LICENSE YET ON IT.

BUT SOME LUNCH. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A RAISE OF HANDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THEMSELVES OR THEIR KIDS TO SEASIDE LAGOON SINCE THEY WERE 13. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF IN THAT IT NEVER HAPPENED.

AND THIS IS I'M JUST I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I HAVEN'T BEEN SO EXCITED ABOUT IT SINCE.

PROBABLY SAVING THE SIX MAN, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE THAT AS WELL.

AND THE, THE ECONOMICS MAKE SENSE. THE, THE USE OF THE LAND MAKES SENSE.

YOU KNOW, I'M A THIRD GENERATION SEA HAWK. SO I LOVE THE, THE RAIDER WE.

WE. THROUGH THERE. BUT THIS, THIS IS BIGGER, THIS IS BETTER.

SO I RESPECT THE COUNCIL'S TIME AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE SITTING HERE? GARY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE OPEN MIC.

MY NAME IS GARY OST, AND I AM THE FACE BEHIND A DOCUMENT CALLED SEASIDE LAGOON 2.0.

WELL, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? WHO IS THIS CRAZY GUY AND WHY DID HE DO IT? WELL, I WAS WATCHING THE HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST THE 25TH, AND THE SENSE OF FRUSTRATION WAS PALPABLE ON EVERYBODY THERE THAT WAS IN THE HARBOR AMENITIES PLAN HAS BEEN MATERIALLY COMPROMISED INTO, PARDON THE EXPRESSION, BUT A JOKE. THE VOLUME OF THE SEASIDE LAGOON WENT FROM 1.5 MILLION GALLONS TO 770,000.

IT'S A BAND AID. IT'S A DEGRADED FACILITY. FENCES, YOU KNOW, DRAINING POOLS IN THE OFF SEASON. I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WILL MAKE IT PAST THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A MATERIALLY DEGRADED PLANT. AND I'M A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AND A SECOND TO PUSH THIS THING THROUGH BEFORE YOU HEARD EVEN ONE WORD OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY TONIGHT.

IF YOU'RE REALLY REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE A REAL PROBLEM THAT YOUR OWN HARBOR COMMISSION VOTED 7 TO 0 TO PAUSE THIS PLAN AND MAKE IT BETTER. THEY MADE A MOTION TO SOLICIT PRESENTATIONS, PLURAL, FOR MULTIPLE PARTIES ON HOW TO MAKE THE LAGOON BETTER.

I RESPONDED TO THAT MOTION. I PREPARED THAT DOCUMENT AS A WAY TO GET BACK TO THE AMENITIES PLAN, POINTS OUT SERIOUS FLAWS WITH WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO APPROVE, AND YOU COULD HAVE DISCUSSED IT TONIGHT.

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T ACCEPT EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THERE.

1 OR 2 IDEAS TO MAKE IT BETTER WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST PREPARED THE RAILROAD THIS THING THROUGH. SO YOU'RE REALLY TYING THE HANDS OF THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE THIS DEBATE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, BECAUSE YOU DON'T APPEAR TO BE VERY OPEN MINDED TO MAKE A FLAWED DESIGN BETTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. PAUL HUGOBOOM. I'M A 65 YEAR RESIDENT IN L.A.

COUNTY. LIFEGUARD FOR 44 YEARS. A JUNIOR LIFEGUARD INSTRUCTOR WENT ON TO BECOME A YOUTH PROGRAM INSTRUCTOR FOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES.

I'VE ALSO HAD THE PLEASURE OF DOING QUITE A BIT OF VOLUNTEER WORK FOR WOUNDED WARRIOR BATTALION SURFERS HEALING. AND I'VE, I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT THE OCEAN CAN DO FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. AND I IMPLORE YOU TO PAUSE THIS, THIS PLAN FOR SEASIDE LAGOON AND HEAR, HEAR OTHER VIEWS. KEEP OPEN MIND.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROPOSED WAVE POOL.

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IT'S VERY EXCITING. AND I WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES WITH CHILDREN AND THE OCEAN. THIS PROPOSAL IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN SURFING.

IT IS ABOUT INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR YOUTH, AND OUR FUTURE REDONDO BEACH.

TODAY'S CHILDREN HAVE FEWER OPPORTUNITIES THAN EVER TO EXPERIENCE HEALTHY OUTDOOR RECREATION, AND TOO MANY SPEND THEIR FREE TIME INDOORS, DISCONNECTED FROM NATURE AND FROM THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL BENEFITS THAT COME FROM BEING ACTIVE. A WAVE POOL WOULD PROVIDE A SAFE, CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE COULD LEARN WATER SKILLS, GAIN CONFIDENCE, DEVELOP DISCIPLINE AND DISCOVER A LIFELONG LOVE AND RESPECT FOR THE OCEAN.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS TAUGHT COUNTLESS CHILDREN AND ADULTS THROUGH MY CAREER, I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW LEARNING TO NAVIGATE THESE CHALLENGES WATER CHANGES LIVES. WATER BUILDS CONFIDENCE, TEACHES PATIENCE, HUMILITY, PERSEVERANCE, AND RESPECT.

THESE LESSONS EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE BEACH AND STAY WITH YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.

EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS THE POSITIVE IMPACT THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE ON REDONDO BEACH ITSELF.

A YEAR ROUND ATTRACTION WOULD BE BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO OUR HARBOR, BRINGING VISITORS WHO WOULD SUPPORT LOCAL RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, RETAIL STORES, AND SMALL BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF A FACILITY THAT SITS LARGELY UNUSED.

IT'S A CRYING SHAME THAT IT'S CLOSED FOR MOST OF THE YEAR, AND I REALLY FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES. THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY FOR REDONDO BEACH TO GET SOMETHING RIGHT THAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ONLINE? YES. RICK HOWARD. GO AHEAD. RICK.

RICK, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE? HEY, ALLEN. GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO FOLLOW YOUR LEAD.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANY SURF POOLS TONIGHT.

OKAY. I DON'T WATCH FOOTBALL. I ABSOLUTELY CALLED AN AUDIBLE, AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY MOTIVATION FOR DOING IT AND WHY I DID IT. I DEFINITELY DIDN'T DO IT FOR SELF INTEREST BECAUSE I BURNED A TON OF BRIDGES.

I DEFINITELY DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE I WANT TO GO BUILD A SURF POOL.

YOU GUYS CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT I COULD NEVER TOUCH THE LAGOON, I DON'T CARE.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT MONEY, AND I'M. I'D HOPED THAT IN 2027, SOMEBODY COULD PUT OUT AN IDEA THAT THERE'D BE RIGOROUS INTELLECTUAL DEBATE, HARD BACK AND FORTH, BUT RESPECT WOULD BE GIVEN.

I'M DISMAYED BY THE LEVEL OF DISCOURSE THERE'S BEEN ONLINE.

THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT'S COME OF IT IS I GOT CALLED A HOMELESS SURFER THIS MORNING ONLINE.

SO I DRESSED UP FOR EVERYBODY TONIGHT. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH OF THESE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO KNOW THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, BUT I WANT TO ASK ALL OF YOU TO ANSWER TWO THINGS AS YOU'RE GIVING YOUR REASONING. ONE, HAVE YOU SPENT YOUR 10,000 HOURS BEING A BEACH LIFE PERSON? DO YOU KNOW SURF CULTURE? DO YOU KNOW BEACH CULTURE? DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SEASIDE LAGOON IN 62? THAT WAS VISIONARY.

YOU GUYS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INTRODUCTION TO OCEAN, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT. THE SECOND THING IS THE NUMBER ONE THING ON YOUR GUYS STRATEGIC PLAN IS ECONOMIC VITALITY, VITALITY, SYNONYMS, STRENGTH EXCITEMENT, STRENGTH, STRONG, DOING WELL YOU KNOW, PROSPEROUS. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT THIS PLACE NEEDS REVITALIZATION AND THAT WE HAVE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S EVEN BEEN A CONVERSATION ON WHETHER THIS HAS ANY ECONOMIC IMPACT.

BEN ALLEN ASKED FOR WHEN HE PROVIDED THIS GRANT.

HE SAID THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD STUDY LONG TERM ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY.

NOBODY'S, NOBODY'S EVEN TALKED ABOUT ECONOMICS HERE.

NOBODY. EVERYBODY'S ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS ON THE SURF POOL.

WHAT ABOUT YOUR GUYS OPEX'S? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO TO RUN THIS THING ONCE IT'S OPEN WITH ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY.

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I JUST WANT WHAT'S BEST DOWN THERE. I GOT TWO KIDS.

I DON'T USE THE LAGOON. IN FACT, YOU CAN'T USE LAGOON BECAUSE IT'S CLOSED 75% OF THE YEAR AND OPENING A LITTLE SLIVER OF IT AND CALLING THAT AN IMPROVEMENT, JUST WE CAN DREAM BIGGER. THE FACT IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO ANYTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE THE PUBLIC MONEY, AND WE'RE STUCK IN A HARD PLACE.

THIS IS A MINIMALLY VIABLE PLAN. THERE'S NO CON TO WAITING AND THERE'S NO CON TO RETHINKING.

AND I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? YEAH. RICK H'S HAND IS STILL RAISED. GO AHEAD.

RICK. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. GREAT.

YES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH FOR 30 YEARS NOW.

AND ALL THIS TIME I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER BEEN TO SEASIDE LAGOON.

AND I THINK THAT JUST SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE HERE.

IMAGINE JUST CREATING SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR SURFERS, KIDS, FAMILIES BEGINNERS, EVERY, LIKE ALL TYPE, ALL FOLKS CAN ENJOY A WAVE POOL.

I I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH DAVE BERNIER ON BUILDING THE REDONDO BEACH SKATE PARK WITH MAYOR BRAND AND WHAT THAT HAS DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND REDONDO BEACH HAS BEEN, IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING.

AND MAYOR BRAND. I ECHO GENTLEMAN EARLIER SAYING THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HE WAS A SURFER AND I, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD EXCITE HIM.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE REDONDO BEACH EVOLVE AND JUST BRING SOMETHING EXCITING TO THE COMMUNITY. AND YEAH, I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN TO THESE WAVE POOLS IN WACO AND TRAVELED ALL OVER.

AND THE ECONOMIC FACTOR TO THIS IS YEAH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BONUS, BUT I'M ALL FOR IT AND YEAH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND MARK. WHAT DO YOU SAY WE TALK ABOUT THE LAGOON TONIGHT? MARCHANSEN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF.

I WAS A PROUD MEMBER OF THE KING HARBOR PUBLIC AMENITIES WORKING GROUP.

SINCE THAT FOUR YEARS AGO, I HAVE ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE CITY COUNCIL, HARBOR COMMISSION, COMMUNITY MEETING AND POP UP TENT ON THE SEASIDE LAGOON.

I WILL TELL YOU, DURING THE AMENITIES PROCESS, THE IDEA OF WAVE POOLS IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT FORMS WERE BROUGHT BROUGHT TO US, AND WE JUST KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY'D BEEN BROUGHT TO US. WE'VE NEVER REALLY ROLLED UP OUR SLEEVES TO TO ANALYZE THEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL TELL YOU, I'M IMPRESSED BY IN THE KING HARBOR ASSOCIATION SLASH SANFORD PLAN IS THAT SECONDARY WAVE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF KIDS AND NEW SURFERS BEING ABLE TO MESS ABOUT IN THE, SOMETIMES THEY CALL IT THE POUND SURF. BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

THAT COULD BE PROVIDED CHEAP OR FREE TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WHAT I REALLY KIND OF WANT TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT IS OUR HARBOR COMMISSION.

AS WE PRETTY MUCH ALL KNOW BY NOW WE STUMBLED A LITTLE BIT IN OUR PROCESS FROM OCTOBER OF 2024 TO APRIL OF 2026. FOR 18 MONTHS WE BASICALLY DIDN'T TALK PUBLICLY ABOUT THE LAGOON, BUT I UNDERSTAND DURING THAT TIME FRAME, OUR SEASIDE LAGOON SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TOLD REPEATEDLY, IT'S COMING BACK TO YOU, IT'S COMING BACK TO YOU.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED. ALL SENT WAS BACK AT CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL.

THE NEXT DAY, I WAS CHATTING WITH HARBOR COMMISSIONERS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE, AND VIRTUALLY NOBODY KNEW WE'D HAD A MEETING IN APRIL.

SO NOT A SURPRISE WHEN WE GET TO AUGUST 25TH AND WE FINALLY GET TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION, THEY WERE STILL A LITTLE OVERWHELMED IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THINGS HAD CHANGED SO MUCH OVER THOSE 18 MONTHS WITHOUT WITHOUT THEM KNOWING ABOUT IT.

SO I REALLY WANT TO IMPLORE YOU THIS EVENING, AS YOU MASSAGE YOUR MOTION TO THINK ABOUT HONORING THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE, THE HARBOR COMMISSION, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF THEM SPEAK TO YOU.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE PRETTY DARN SHARP. I'M SURE YOU REALIZE AS THEY SPOKE TO YOU.

YEAH. THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT THEIR ARMS WRAPPED AROUND THIS.

SO IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN SHOWING RESPECT FOR THAT HARD WORKING COMMISSION, I REALLY IMPLORE YOU TO PUT JUST A SUFFICIENT PAUSE ON THIS. THEY SENT YOU A LETTER TODAY, AND JUST THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE SAYS THE HARBOR COMMISSION RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGES THE CITY COUNCIL

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TO CONSIDER THE WAVE POOL SLASH OCEAN PARK CONCEPT PRESENTED TO THE HARBOR COMMISSION ON 9/14, AND ANY OTHER IDEAS WHICH COULD SERVE AS A SIGNIFICANT ANCHOR AMENITY IN SEASIDE LAGOON.

SO PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME. LET SANFORD COME TALK TO YOU GUYS.

LET GARY TALK TO YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE WITH GREAT IDEAS.

LET'S ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND DO SOMETHING COOL AND TREAT OUR HARBOR COMMISSIONERS WITH RESPECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

ANYONE ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE? HI, ANIKA. HEY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS ANIKA BLAIR. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN REDONDO BEACH SINCE 1976.

I SPENT MANY SUMMERS AT SEASIDE LAGOON. IT WAS THE ONLY AFFORDABLE PLACE THAT MY MOTHER COULD TAKE US, AND I'VE ALSO WATCHED MY NIECES, MY NEPHEWS, THEIR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILY FRIENDS ALSO SPEND THE LAST 30 YEARS AND AS RECENT AS THIS LAST SUMMER AT SEASIDE LAGOON. IT'S A VERY AFFORDABLE FAMILY AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS ISN'T JUST NOSTALGIA, IT'S AFFORDABLE ACCESS.

TONIGHT, YOU'RE SITTING AS CARETAKERS OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

THERE'S A FALSE NARRATIVE THAT'S BEING CIRCULATED THAT APPROVING PHASE ONE LOCKS THE CITY INTO AN UNCHANGEABLE DESIGN.

IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, GOVERNANCE AND DESIGN, DESIGN IS FUNDAMENTALLY ITERATIVE.

SORRY, I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS. APPROVING PHASE ONE DOES NOT FREEZE OUR OPTIONS.

IT ESTABLISHES A BASELINE. IT PROTECTS THREE YEARS OF ENGINEERING, HONORS OVER 3 2 MILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS ALREADY INVESTED AND KEEPS US ON TRACK FOR A 2028 OPENING. VOTING YES GIVES YOU. OH, SORRY.

WENT BACKWARDS. THERE'S A FEW UNDENIABLE FACTS.

ACTUALLY, LET ME GO. ONE MORE. HITTING PAUSE TONIGHT TO JUST EXPLORE AN UNVETTED SALES PITCH DOES NOT KEEP OUR OPTION OR DOES NOT KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN.

IT STOPS THE CLOCKS. IT DIVERTS STAFF AND THROWS AWAY THAT HARD WON BASELINE.

AT WHAT POINT DO WE STOP PAUSING BECAUSE THERE'S NEW INFORMATION.

WE WON'T. WE'LL CONTINUE. WE'LL BE HERE ANOTHER TEN YEARS.

OUR CHILDREN'S LIFELINE. THERE'S A FEW UNDENIABLE FACTS THAT I WANT US TO KNOW THAT PAUSING IMPACTS.

IT'S OUR CHILDREN'S LIFELINE. SEASIDE LAGOON HOSTS AN AFFORDABLE SUMMER DAY CAMP FOR OVER 1500 CHILDREN EVERY SUMMER.

YES, WE HAVE A PAUSE THIS YEAR TO TO DIG. BUT WE WON'T NEED, WE DON'T NEED TO PAUSE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.

PROTECTING OUR FULL FOOTPRINT KEEPS KEEPING SEASIDE LAGOON AT ITS FULL SIZE TODAY AS IT IS TODAY.

WE SHOULD NOT CUT PUBLIC PARK DOWN IN SIZE AT ALL.

OUR OUR LAGOON WELCOMES THOUSANDS OF KIDS AND FAMILIES FOR $10.

WE CANNOT SURRENDER PUBLIC ACREAGE FOR AN EXCLUSIVE PAY TO PLAY ADVENTURE.

IT VIOLATES MEASURE C AND OUR CERTIFIED LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

WE HAVE UNPROTECTED MUNICIPAL LIABILITY AS WELL.

WE NEED TO MINIMIZE THAT AS WE AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE PROCESS AND IN PRIVATE, PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS DID REDONDO RESIDENTS VOTE MEASURE C TO PROTECT OPEN COASTAL PARKLAND, OR DID THEY VOTE TO FENCE IT OFF FOR AN EXCLUSIVE PAY TO PLAY AMENITY? WHEN WORKING PARENTS ASK WHERE THEIR KIDS WILL SPEND SUMMERS, WHAT WILL THAT ANSWER BE WHEN THIS IS PAUSED FOR A DECADE? WHY WOULD THIS COUNCIL DISCARD A DECADE OF COMMUNITY INPUT, THREE YEARS OF COMPLETED ENGINEERING, AND OVER 2 MILLION OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS JUST TO START BACK AT SQUARE ONE? THE RESPONSIBLE PATH FORWARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS CLEAR.

VOTE YES ON PHASE ONE, DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE SMART REFINEMENTS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF OF THE 2028.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY, LESLIE, YOU GOT IT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. LESLIE CAMPEGGI, 35 YEAR RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH, STARTED IN DISTRICT FOUR.

SPENT 20 YEARS IN DISTRICT FIVE. AND NOW I'M ALMOST 11 YEARS IN DISTRICT TWO.

IT'S NOT AN AUDIBLE THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED. IT'S A HAIL MARY.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PAUSE AND CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS? ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CEQA REVIEW AND A LOT OF OTHER MACHINATIONS, WHICH INEVITABLY DELAYS ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE FOR 16 OR 18 MONTHS TO 36 MONTHS AS WE FOUND OUT FROM THE PERSON WHO PRESENTED THE PROPOSAL LAST NIGHT.

THAT DOESN'T SERVE ANYBODY'S BEST INTEREST. AND SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DRAINED THE LAGOON AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER DISTRIBUTION PERMITS, IT COULDN'T EVEN OPERATE NEXT YEAR ANYWAY. SO, SO MUCH FOR ECONOMIC VITALITY.

IT TAKES THAT OUT OF THE WATER, FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

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I HOPE YOU'LL CONVEY TO THE PUBLIC WHAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND, AND THAT IS THAT THE SEASIDE LAGOON IS NOT AN UNDERUTILIZED REDONDO BEACH CITY ASSET.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THE LAGOON IS. IT SHOULD NOT BE THE TOWN CENTER FOR THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

AND IT'S NOT TASKED WITH THAT. IT'S A REGIONAL STATE PARK.

IT CONFORMS TO MEASURE C. IT CONFORMS TO OUR LOCAL COASTAL PLAN.

IT'S UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT WHATSOEVER.

SO A SHINY NEW OBJECT, A GREAT NEW PLAN, BE IT A CAROUSEL, A MINIATURE GOLF COURSE OR A WAVE POOL, IS NOT GOING TO FLY UNDER THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, IT'S A REGIONAL STATE PARK DESIGNED FOR NO COST AND LOW COST AMENITIES TO ALL OF THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST THE CITIZENS OF REDONDO BEACH OR THE SOUTH BAY.

IT'S FOR EVERYONE'S USE, AND IT'S YOUR OBLIGATION TO PRESERVE THAT.

WHAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO REGARDING PHASE ONE IS EITHER CONSIDER MOVING IT FORWARD IN PARALLEL WITH YOUR APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT TO DISCLOSE COMPONENTS OF SEASIDE LAGOON 2.0 FROM GARY OST SAYING, YOU'RE DOING SOME FURTHER DELIBERATION ON THAT.

I THINK THAT COULD BE VETTED VERY QUICKLY WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, NOT LOSE ANY TIME AND MOVE FORWARD AND CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE VITAL COMPONENTS AT THE HARBOR COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO YOU ALSO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

OKAY. IT'S ME AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M CARISSA ROBINSON, A RESIDENT OF D3. I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO APPROVE THE PHASE ONE PLANS AND MOVE THE APPLICATION FORWARD TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

AND I WANT TO START BY REMINDING EVERYONE WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE. SEASIDE LAGOON AND MOLE D ARE PUBLIC SPACES ON CALIFORNIA TIDELANDS.

SEASIDE IS A DESIGNATED STATE PARK. THIS IS A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL RESOURCE THAT MATTERS.

I'VE SPENT MUCH OF MY LIFE ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC SPACES AND PUBLIC LANDS.

AND I'VE LEARNED THAT ONCE WE GIVE PUBLIC SPACES OVER TO PRIVATE COMMERCIAL USE, IT CAN BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO EVER GET THAT BACK.

I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TONIGHT TALK ABOUT HOW EXCITING A WAVE POOL COULD BE.

I AGREE. WAVE POOLS CAN BE GREAT, BUT THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER A WAVE POOL IS EXCITING.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER A PRIVATE COMMERCIAL ATTRACTION BELONGS ON THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC LAND, AND WHETHER IT SHOULD DISPLACE AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL RESOURCE.

WE ARE FIVE YEARS INTO PUBLIC PROCESS FOR SEASIDE LAGOON WITH PLANNING, DESIGN WORK, PUBLIC INPUT AND STATE FUNDING TO REHABILITATE THIS FACILITY.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT PHASE ONE, PHASE ONE.

I HAVE SOME MYSELF, BUT THIS IS PHASE ONE. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM OR BE THE FINAL VISION FOR SEASIDE LAGOON.

MOVE IT FORWARD. CONTINUE REFINING AND DESIGNING WHERE THERE'S FLEXIBILITY.

PROTECT THE SWIMMING LAGOON, THE SAND, PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE CHARACTER OF THIS PLACE AND FIND MORE MONEY.

LOBBY IN SACRAMENTO FOR ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDING.

TALK TO LEGISLATORS. PURSUE ADDITIONAL GRANTS.

IF PHASE ONE DOESN'T DO ENOUGH, THEN FIGHT FOR FUNDING TO DO MORE.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD FOR PHASE ONE TONIGHT, THEN TAKE A SHORT, FOCUSED PAUSE AND SERIOUSLY CONSIDER GARY OST'S SEASIDE LAGOON 2.0.

IT OFFERS ANOTHER WAY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED WHILE KEEPING THE FOCUS WHERE IT BELONGS, IMPROVING SEASIDE LAGOON AS A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL RESOURCE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS CONCERNS ABOUT PHASE ONE, USED TO ABANDON FIVE YEARS OF PUBLIC WORK AND SUDDENLY PIVOT TO AN UNSOLICITED PRIVATE COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL. IF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, THAT IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.

GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC, OPEN AN RFP. LET PROPOSALS COMPETE THROUGH TRANSPARENT PUBLIC PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT A CHOICE BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND A WAVE POOL.

MOVE PHASE FORWARD, PHASE ONE FORWARD. OR IF YOU BELIEVE IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT, FIRST, TAKE A SHORT PAUSE AND TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT SEASIDE LAGOON 2.0.

BUT KEEP MOVING TOWARDS THE GOAL WE STARTED WITH REHABILITATING AND IMPROVING SEASIDE LAGOON FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE ABOVE ALL, REMEMBER WHAT THIS PLACE IS PUBLIC LAND FOR PUBLIC USE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ONLINE? THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC.

DID YOU. WERE YOU COMING UP, SIR, OR WERE YOU JUST SHIFTING? I GUESS HE'S JUST SHIFTING. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP WITH A FEW COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE CITY POLITICALLY FROM AN ACTIVIST PERSPECTIVE SINCE 2000

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WITH MY BUDDY BILL BRAND. IN 2006 WAS THE FIRST TIME I PARTICIPATED IN A PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON WHAT WE DO WITH SEASIDE LAGOON.

IN 2010, THERE WAS A THREAT TO CLOSE SEASIDE LAGOON BECAUSE OF OUR DISCHARGE PERMITS, AND THE COMMUNITY RALLIED BY MAYOR GINN AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE, PUT OUT A LOUD AND CLEAR CRY THAT ACTUALLY GOT THE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY.

INSTEAD, WE WERE FACING, WHAT, OVER $1 BILLION FINES, WHICH WAS RIDICULOUS.

1 BILLION. YEAH. RIDICULOUS. SO THE COUNCIL WAS CONTEMPLATING JUST CLOSING IT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH SAVED SEASIDE LAGOON. THEN WE HAD CENTERCAL.

CAO WANTED TO PUT COMMERCIAL SHOPS ON THE LAGOON AND PUSH SWIMMERS INTO THE INTO THE HARBOR WITHOUT EVEN TESTING THE WATER QUALITY OF THE HARBOR THERE, AND WITHOUT PROTECTING THE KIDS FROM THE ROCKS THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE HAND LAUNCH BOAT RAMP.

AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY RALLIED TO SAVE SEASIDE LAGOON.

SO HERE WE ARE IN 2026. THIS IS THE CLOSEST WE'VE GOTTEN TO DOING SOMETHING TO REVITALIZE THAT FACILITY.

AND THAT'S REMARKABLE. AND IT'S, IT, IT'S A TRAIT THAT I'M HOPING THE PUBLIC IS SEEING ACROSS THIS COUNCIL.

I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THIS COUNCIL. IF YOU IF YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN OUR DEBATE ON WHERE TO PUT THE, THE BOAT LAUNCH. THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE WELL BEFORE I WAS, THERE'S NOT BEEN A BOAT LAUNCH HERE SINCE THE HARBOR HAS BEEN OPEN AND IT TOOK ALL THOSE YEARS AND MULTIPLE TRIES. AND MARCPROBABLY HAS MORE HISTORY ON THIS THAN ME.

WE FINALLY GOT IT NAILED DOWN. AND NOW WE HAVE A DESIGN SUBMITTED FOR FUNDING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF BOATING AND WATERWAYS.

AND YES, THEY ASKED FOR SOME CHANGES AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH.

SO YEAH, WE'RE MAKING CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FROM THEM TO PUT THAT IN.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY WERE MAJOR DESIGN CHANGES.

THEY WERE RELATIVELY MINOR. FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD ALLEN AND THE SURF CLUB FOR GOING IN THERE.

THAT WAS A KERNEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S STARTING TO SPREAD AND INVESTMENT THAT'S STARTING TO SPREAD ACROSS THE HARBOR.

WE DID MAINTENANCE TO THE OLD FUN FACTORY SITE, AND NOW WE'RE IN AN EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATING AGREEMENT WITH A FAMILY FUN VENUE THERE. WE WE INVESTED UNDER BILL BRAND AND COMPLETED JUST, JUST AS I WAS COMING ON BOARD, THE SKATE PARK ON THE, ON AN ABANDONED PAD THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY YEARS. AND JUST, JUST TONIGHT, WE KICKED OFF THE FIRST STEP IN LOOKING AT EXPLORING, PUTTING A MARKET HALL ON THE NORTH END OF BASIN THREE.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT FOR ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION REVITALIZATION DOWN THERE.

AND WE'RE STICKING WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT BILL BRAND AND SOME OF US STARTED WITH REVITALIZING WITHOUT SUPERSIZING.

AND IT'S HAPPENING AND WE'RE SEEING REVENUES STARTING TO PICK UP IN THE HARBOR.

WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF UNDERNEATH TO, TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF REVITALIZATION.

AS FAR AS PARKS GO, REDONDO BEACH PARK PORT, WE'RE AN ANOMALY IN A WEALTHY COMMUNITY, 2.1 ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS, IF WE COUNT THE 52 ACRE COUNTY BEACH, AND THE STATE THRESHOLD FOR IS PARK POOR IS THREE ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

WE'RE PARK POOR, SO PARKS ARE A PRECIOUS RESOURCE IN THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

WE ADDED PARKLAND WITH THE BILL BRAND GATEWAY PARK UNDER THE POWER LINES ALONG 190TH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT.

SO YEAH, THIS IS A PRECIOUS COMMODITY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THREE AND A HALF ACRES ON OUR WATERFRONT, THE ONLY PARK IN THE SOUTH END OF THE HARBOR.

AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY. SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, OUR JOB IS NOT TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE OUT OF A PARK.

WE DO WANT TO MAKE IT COST EFFECTIVE THOUGH. AND POURING MONEY INTO FINES IS NOT WHAT I CONSIDER COST EFFECTIVE, WHICH WAS REALLY THE PRIMARY DRIVER YEARS AGO OF LOOKING AT REDESIGNS OF THE LAGOON.

AND WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING. I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT WET N WILD, DIVE AND SURF CAME IN WITH THE CONCEPT, WHICH WHEN YOU WENT TO PEEL BACK THE ONION, THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING THERE, THERE.

AND WAVE TECHNOLOGY, WAVE POOL TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN AND YOU CAN DO MORE IN A IN A TIGHTER SPACE AND GET MORE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.

BUT THE JOB OF THE THE COUNCIL IS NOT TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE OUT OF A PUBLIC PARK.

SO WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. BUT THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR OUR HARBOR.

WE ALSO ARE TIED TO OBLIGATED TO CONSIDER THE COASTAL ACT, THE TIDELANDS TRUST AND OUR OWN LCP, AND THE, THE COASTAL ACT ACTUALLY, AND TIDELANDS TRUST KIND OF SETS THE STAGE.

IT SAYS WE SHALL PROTECT EXISTING AMENITIES THAT ARE LOW COST, VISITOR SERVING RECREATION.

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THAT'S TOP PRIORITY FOR THEM. WELL, THE THE TOP PRIORITY IS LIKE BOATING FACILITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A PLACE LIKE THIS, IT'S THAT'S THE TOP PRIORITY.

AND THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 50 YEARS. AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PRESERVING IT.

AND IT'S NOT FOR THE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DISTURBED ME A LITTLE HERE, I THOUGHT I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEIR KIDS AND THEIR USE OF IT.

THIS PARK RIGHT NOW TODAY IS A REGIONAL PARK THAT 70 TO 80% ON ANY GIVEN DAY IS FROM INLAND.

AND WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT THIS PARK, NOT ON BEHALF OF REDONDO RESIDENTS, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, NOT THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF OUR LITTLE TOWN HERE, BUT THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF ALL USERS.

AND LESS THAN 1% OF PEOPLE IN IN LA COUNTY SURF.

SO I'M NOT I AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPOSE KIDS FROM THERE TO SURF, BUT WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ALLOCATED TOWARDS A WAVE PARK THAT'S GOING TO BASICALLY, IT'S TARGETED TO SERVE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFLUENT.

LET'S LET'S FACE IT, KIDS FROM INLAND CAN'T. THE FAMILIES FROM INLAND AREN'T GOING TO AFFORD $100 PER HOUR FOR THEIR KIDS TO SURF ON MEDIUM SIZED WAVE AND MORE FOR GOOD WAVES.

AND AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH. ADDRESSING AS WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, WE'RE NOT THE FINAL ARBITERS HERE. THE COASTAL COMMISSION RETAINS JURISDICTION ON ANYTHING IN THE TIDELANDS.

AND THAT IS THE SEASIDE LAGOON IS ENTIRELY IN THE TIDELANDS.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE APPLYING FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND NOT APPROVING ONE TONIGHT.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS UP HERE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED AS I AM SOMEWHAT BY THE LATE ANNOUNCEMENT OF A WAVE.

WAVE POOL. BUT, YOU KNOW, I NEVER LOOK AT A LATE IDEA AS NECESSARILY A REASON FOR JUST NOT EXPLORING SOMETHING.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO DENIGRATE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS FOR COMING UP LAST MINUTE AND COMING UP WITH A GOOD IDEA.

IN FACT, I APPLAUD IT. AND I DO APPLAUD EVERYONE WHO CAME HERE ON BOTH SIDES TO TO EXPRESS YOUR PASSION SUPPORT FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. SO I GENUINELY APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE WERE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER TOO.

WE HAD A FEW OUTLIERS, BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH.

THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF EXCHANGE THAT'S PRODUCTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT DOESN'T HELP ANYTHING. IN FACT, IT DIVIDES IT.

AND I'M HOPING THAT NO MATTER WHAT DECISION COMES THROUGH TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES COME TOGETHER.

THIS IS ONLY PHASE ONE. WE ARE ACTUALLY STARTING THE PROCESS FOR MORE MONEY FOR THE PHASES TWO, THREE AND FOUR OR HOW AND HOW THOSE PAN OUT AND WE CAN APPLY CHANGES TO THOSE.

NOW, I DO REALIZE ONCE WE SET WHERE THE LAGOON IS, THAT KIND OF DICTATES WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO IT IS OUR DECISION TONIGHT. POTENTIALLY IS A CONSTRAINING FACTOR THERE.

SO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. AND WITH THAT I'M I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUTS, APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL, APPRECIATE STAFF WORK.

THIS HAS BEEN A LOT. WE'VE GONE THROUGH YOU KNOW, A HARBOR DIRECTOR, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I WAS ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE HARBOR COMMISSION ON THE AMENITIES PLAN.

I WAS ON THE SEASIDE LAGOON SUBCOMMITTEE BEFORE I GOT APPOINTED TO BE MAYOR.

AND I'VE SEEN THIS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND I DO THINK WE DID THE HARBOR COMMISSION SOME DISRESPECT, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. WE TOOK IT IN FROM THE COUNCIL AFTER YOU GUYS APPROVED IT.

AND THERE WERE INCREMENTAL CHANGES THAT WERE MADE DUE TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT INPUTS DUE TO SOME OF THE ENGINEERING STUDIES AND ANALYZES.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE COME BACK WITH THE INCREMENTAL CHANGES AND EXPLAINED WHY AND AT LEAST GOTTEN YOUR FEEDBACK.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT AND WE'LL DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE.

AND SAME WITH THE BOAT RAMP. WE DIDN'T COME BACK WITH THE CHANGES THAT DBAW ASKED US TO DO THERE.

AND SO WE GOT TO DO BETTER THERE. AND I THINK WE HAVE THE COMMITMENT OF ELIZABETH, WHO'S NOW RUNNING THAT TO MAKE THAT BETTER.

SO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY TONIGHT.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE INPUTS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHANGE OUR MINDS UP HERE. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, AND I KNOW YOU DO YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY THE PUBLIC INPUT.

YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY THE HARBOR COMMISSION INPUT.

JUST ASK YOU, SINCE WE HAD A MOTION, WE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY THAT YOU TAKE ONE MORE LOOK AT THAT BEFORE WE FINALLY VOTE.

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SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE SOME HANDS UP BRAD WALLER.

COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP FIRST? YEAH, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AS WELL.

THAT NO PARTICULAR ORDER SINCE I KIND OF WROTE THESE DOWN AS I WENT.

BUT DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR IF WE SUBMIT THIS TO COASTAL, IF WE, YOU KNOW, PASS THIS TODAY? WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS AT COASTAL COMMISSION, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET ON THEIR AGENDA AND FIND OUT ANYTHING FROM THEM.

4 TO 6 MONTHS. THERE ARE WAYS TO MAYBE ACCELERATE THAT PROCESS.

OUR STAFF, I KNOW MARC AND ELIZABETH HAVE HAD REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS WITH COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF.

I THINK THERE IS A CHANCE WE CAN ENCOURAGE A QUICKER REVIEW.

BUT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO PRESSURE THAT A BIT.

BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BIG HIT TO ALL THE TIMELINES IF WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING LONGER THERE.

AND I GUESS I'M NOW MAYOR PRO TEM. SO I'M, I GET THE CALL ON MYSELF TO CONTINUE.

I, IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU ADDRESS SEA LEVEL RISE.

CAN YOU, SINCE THAT WASN'T PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THE STAFF REPORT SAYS ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE AND THIS. SURE. I'D BE HAPPY TO. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR CONSULTANTS WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS ONE, OR IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO TAKE THE LEAD. SORRY. NO, I CAN I CAN TAKE IT.

THAT'S FINE. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE MET WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO.

MARC AND I DID. AND THEY WE ASKED THAT QUESTION OF THEM, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT STANDARD DO WE NEED TO BUILD THE LAGOON RIGHT NOW FOR 2050 SEA LEVEL RISE? AND SO THEY SHARED WITH US THE SEA LEVEL RISE POLICY GUIDANCE, AND THE CALIFORNIA OCEAN PROTECTION COUNCIL'S 2024 STATE SEA LEVEL RISE GUIDANCE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY USE TO ASSESS PROJECTS WHEN THEY REVIEW OUR PERMIT APPLICATION AND WHAT THOSE STATE IS THAT THEY DON'T EXPECT CITIES TO BUILD TO ANTICIPATED LEVELS, THAT THAT LEVEL OF SEA LEVEL RISE, WHAT THEY DO EXPECT CITIES TO DO, OR ANY DEVELOPER WITHIN THE COAST, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ADAPT WHATEVER THAT SEA LEVEL RISE IS.

THERE IS A RANGE OF SEA LEVEL RISES. THERE'S ESTIMATES, RIGHT? NOBODY CAN PREDICT WITH ACCURACY WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE IN 25, 24 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO THEY'VE ASKED THAT WE AT LEAST INSTALL ADAPTIVE MEASURES OR HAVE A WAY TO ADAPT TO SEA LEVEL RISE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND THE REPORT, WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT BY EITHER INCREASING THE BULKHEAD.

WE ARE DOING A PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE SYSTEM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LAGOON FOR THOSE SURGES IN KING TIDES WHEN THEY COME IN.

AND THAT'S WHERE I CAN RELY ON OUR CONSULTANTS IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK MORE TECHNICALLY ABOUT HOW WE CAN RESPOND TO SEA LEVEL RISE IN 2050.

WELL BEFORE MAYBE THEY DO, ONE KEY POINT IS, AND THIS WAS IN PART WHY WE RECOMMENDED THE SHALLOWER DEPTH FACILITY.

RIGHT NOW, THE FACILITY IS AT ROUGHLY EIGHT FEET OF DEPTH WITH ITS SANDY BOTTOM IN THE OFF SEASON, THERE'S ABOUT TWO FEET OF WATER THAT TYPICALLY ACCUMULATES IN THE LAGOON THAT REPRESENTS EFFECTIVELY WHERE OUR MEAN HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, NOT MEAN HIGH, BUT OUR MEAN TIDE LINE SITS TODAY.

AND WE ARE BUILDING EFFECTIVELY ABOVE THAT. SO WE'RE ADDRESSING THE BOTTOM OF THE FACILITY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR CURRENT TIDE CONDITIONS AND INSTALLING A RELIEF PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT WILL HELP WITH FUTURE CONCERNS. IS IT PERFECT? NO. THE PROBLEM IS, THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO BUILD THE FACILITY EVEN HIGHER TO CREATE MORE ELEVATION.

THE COUNCIL DIRECTED IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO FIVE FEET OF WATER DEPTH, A BUILD UP OF OUR PERIMETER, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD STRATEGY. CERTAINLY AN ADAPTATION STRATEGY THAT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

WE MADE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE TO RETAIN OUR CURRENT BULKHEAD IN ITS EXISTING PLACE.

THAT IS AN ENGINEERING STRATEGY. AT SOME POINT, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WE MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

THE BULKHEAD MAY HAVE TO CHANGE. BUT THAT'S WHAT ADAPTATION IS.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 2050 STUDIES THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISING ANYWHERE FROM .4 FEET TO 1.1FT.

IN COMPARISON FROM THE 20, THE 2000 LEVEL TO THE 2050 LEVEL.

WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THAT POINT TODAY AND WE'RE BUILDING, WE'RE BUILDING THE BASE OF OUR FACILITY ABOVE OUR CURRENT TIDELINE.

SO I THINK THIS PLAN VERY MUCH ACCOMMODATES FOR THAT.

IT'S A REASONABLE PLANNING HORIZON. THAT'S THE ARGUMENT THAT WE WILL MAKE AT COASTAL, AND ONE THAT WE'VE COMMUNICATED TO STAFF WHO SEEMS TO SUPPORT OUR APPROACH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT OUR TEAM WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, BUT THAT IN PRINCIPLE IS HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND SINCE THAT KIND OF TALKS TO DEPTH A LITTLE BIT, THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR A DEEPER SEASIDE LAGOON.

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WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GO TO, SAY, AN EIGHT FOOT DEEP SEASIDE LAGOON.

THAT'S THE THAT'S OUR, THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE CONSTERNATION HERE.

I MEAN, WE ALL HAD HOPED GOING INTO THE RECONSTRUCTION THAT WE COULD RETAIN THAT WATER DEPTH.

THAT WAS A DESIRE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A FEASIBLE ENGINEERING SOLUTION.

AND THIS IS WHERE I WOULD POINT TO PACE AND NUVIS.

IT CREATES INCREDIBLE COST. CAN IT BE DONE? SURE.

WITH MONEY, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. BUT IT WOULD BE, WE THINK, PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.

AND IT WOULD CREATE RISK OF DEGRADATION AT A HIGHER RATE THAN WHAT WE WILL EXPERIENCE IN THIS PROPOSED PLAN.

AND I'D LIKE TO ADD MORE DEPTH ALSO INCURS MORE RISK FROM SEA LEVEL RISE OBVIOUSLY.

SO YEAH, ALREADY BELOW THE WATER. PRESSURE BEYOND THAT.

YEAH THE PRESSURE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER. IF WE, IF WE GO DOWN TO EIGHT FEET VERSUS FIVE, ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT'S COME UP IS THE FRESH VERSUS SALT WATER. WAS OCEAN SALT WATER EVER CONSIDERED AS AS THIS WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SALT WATER.

YEAH. ANOTHER YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR 20 YEARS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE, THE WHOLE POINT OF US RECONSTRUCTING THE LAGOON IS TO GET OUT OF THE SEAWATER INTAKE AND SEAWATER DISCHARGE BUSINESS.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE THE LATE 50S AND EARLY 60S.

WE CANNOT, FOR THOSE WHO HOPE THAT SOMEHOW WE COULD RETAIN THE EXISTING FACILITY IN ITS CURRENT OPERATING CONDITION FOREVERMORE, THAT IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE SIMPLY CANNOT DO IT.

IT'S A MIRACLE, CANDIDLY, WE HAVE MANAGED TO RETAIN THE FACILITY FOR THE PAST TWO DECADES IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION, IN PART BECAUSE WE FOUGHT WITH THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. WE ME PERSONALLY NEGOTIATING WITH THE WITH THE BOARD STAFF FOR TIME SCHEDULE ORDERS TO RELAX OUR RESTRICTIONS. THE MAYOR MENTIONED AT ONE POINT WE WERE THREATENED WITH THE POTENTIAL OF $21.2 BILLION OF FINES, WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. NOBODY FELT WE WERE EVER GOING TO ACTUALLY RECEIVE THAT PENALTY, BUT ON PAPER IT WAS POSSIBLE UNDER THE UNDER THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT IS OUR NPDS PERMIT.

WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AGAINST THOSE DISCHARGE ISSUES FOR YEARS.

WE SETTLE VIRTUALLY EVERY THREE YEARS. OUR NOVS, OUR EXCEEDANCES, OUR ANNUAL EXCEEDANCES.

ELIZABETH POSTED THAT CHART. IT IS HUGELY PROBLEMATIC.

AND IT'S A BIG PAIN IN THE BUTT WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF TIME AND RESOURCE TO MANAGE IT.

SO WE WANT OUT OF THE SEAWATER INTAKE AND DISCHARGE WORLD SO WE CAN CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT.

WE CAN CONTROL THE WATER QUALITY THAT IS IN THE LAGOON THAT OUR PATRONS ULTIMATELY SWIM IN.

AND THAT'S WHY FRESH. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATIONS, FRESH WATER, CHLORINATED FRESH WATER WAS ALWAYS THE PROPOSED PLAN.

WITH THE RECIRCULATING SYSTEM, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE NEVER FEASIBLY EXPECTED TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE A TRUE OCEAN INTAKE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR SWIMMERS.

WE JUST CAN'T DO IT AND MAINTAIN AND MEET THE COUNTY HEALTH STANDARDS.

IF YOU GO BACK IN TIME WHEN THERE WAS NO DISCHARGE REQUIREMENTS AND COUNTY HEALTH DIDN'T REGULATE LARGE SWIMMING AREAS, WE COULD DO IT, WHICH WAS THE NOVELTY OF THE LAGOON IN ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN.

UNDER TODAY'S REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT BETWEEN COUNTY HEALTH AND THE STATE WATER BOARD, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT LUXURY.

SO IN THE 2024 PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED WHEN THEY CALLED IT SALTWATER, WAS IT SALTWATER LIKE OCEAN WATER OR WAS IT SALTWATER? IT WAS A SALTWATER SALTWATER WITH SOME IT WAS WATER WITH SOME LEVEL OF ADDITIVE SALT.

IT WAS NEVER OCEAN WATER IN THAT CONCEPT. IT WAS MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE BUILD IN PRIVATE POOLS, SALT WATER POOL. IT'S NOT OCEAN WATER, OF COURSE IT'S WATER WITH SOME FORM OF SALINITY ADDED.

WE WE LOOKED AT THAT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE IS, IN ENGINEERING IN PARTICULAR IS WHERE DO WE DEPOSIT THAT THAT WATER IF WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO EMPTY THE LAGOON, THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE ON OUR WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A COST CONSIDERATION, IT'S ULTIMATELY A CONTROL AND DISCHARGE ISSUE FOR US.

AND THERE WAS A CHART THAT TALKED ABOUT THE REVENUE.

AND SO IT WAS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE REVENUE FOR SEASIDE LAGOON AFTER, IF WE DID THIS PHASE ONE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE FINES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COSTS OF ELECTRICITY AND CHEMICALS AND WHATEVER ALL ELSE WE HAVE. OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

SO THE PROJECTED REVENUE SHOWING THAT THIS IS OUR PROJECTED COSTS SHOW THAT IT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THE NEW SYSTEM IN PLACE. YOUR BASIC EXPECTATION HERE IS, AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN THIS OPERATING MODEL.

WE KNOW THIS OPERATING MODEL. WE KNOW WHAT OUR VISITORSHIP IS GOING TO LIKELY LOOK LOOK LIKE.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE HEAVY CHLORINE CHLORINATION COSTS.

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WE HAVE HEAVY DECHLORINATION COSTS. WE HAVE TO ADD EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF, OF, OF CHEMICALS TO THE SEAWATER TO MAKE IT SWIMMABLE UNDER THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THOSE MATERIALS TODAY IN THE CURRENT FACILITY.

THE NEW FACILITY WILL COST US LESS TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE.

NOW WILL EACH CATEGORY BE THE SAME? PROBABLY NOT.

WE MAY HAVE FEWER CHEMICAL CHARGES AND MORE MAINTENANCE OF FILTRATION SYSTEM OR FILTER REPLACEMENT CHARGES, BUT ULTIMATELY, WE EXPECT THE NEW FACILITY TO HAVE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON OUR TIDELANDS FUND, WHICH IS WHERE WE BOOK THESE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

SO WE THINK REVENUE WILL GO UP. WE THINK EXPENDITURE WILL SOMEWHAT DECLINE.

BUT WE DO NOT EXPECT IT TO EXCEED ALL IN WITH WATER QUALITY, DISCHARGE, FINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE TO DO FROM A CONSULTING AND MONITORING STANDPOINT, THE EXPENSES TO BE MORE THAN THEY ARE TODAY.

WE THINK WE'LL HAVE A NET ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO OUR OPERATING COSTS AND YOUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS.

YOU DID NOT ADD ANYTHING IN THERE FOR ADDITIONAL EVENTS THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE WITH A 365 DAY FACILITY.

WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE TO SAY? BY 365 DO YOU MEAN KEEPING THE WATER? ASSUMING THAT LIKE, WE'VE GOT THE SEASONAL FENCE, AND WOULD WE EXPECT MORE EVENTS BEING AT THE SEASIDE LAGOON ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS? I GUESS TO SORT OF ADD TO HIS COMMENT, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN THAT SEASIDE LAGOON HAS ONLY BEEN OPEN ABOUT 90 DAYS OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WATER PORTION OF SEASIDE LAGOON.

AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT ARE NOW COMING AND USING SEASIDE LAGOON.

SO IN THE OFF SEASON, THINGS LIKE BEACH LIFE, WE HAVE THE NIKE EVENT THAT'S COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT NON-PROFITS THAT USE ITS CORPORATE USERS WHO COME IN AND USE SEASIDE LAGOON.

MOVING THE WATER FEATURE FURTHER WEST WILL GIVE US MORE LAND AT THE FRONT.

DO WE ANTICIPATE MORE REVENUE FROM THOSE TYPES OF USES THAT AREN'T WATER RELATED? VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. POTENTIALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO MARKET THAT SPACE, OF COURSE. AND OF COURSE WITH ADDITIONAL LAND SPACE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HOST MORE PEOPLE.

BUT THAT'S HARD TO TELL RIGHT NOW. WE, WE DO HOST QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE OFF SEASON.

WE JUST HAD CAL WATER, OF COURSE, A SEASIDE LAGOON WITH OVER 1000 ATTENDEES.

WE'LL CONTINUE PUSHING IT AND MARKETING IT AS BEST WE CAN.

AND WE HOPE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE. I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED FLEXIBILITY TO, TO STOP AND START OUR CURRENT WATER AMENITY TODAY, RIGHT? WE IT'S, IT'S EITHER ON OR IT'S OFF. IT'S LITERALLY MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER THAT FLOW THROUGH THE FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS.

THIS TYPE OF FACILITY ALLOW US TO OPERATE IN A MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE WAY.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE A HOT COUPLE OF WEEKENDS THROUGH SEPTEMBER MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE FACILITY.

WE CAN'T STOP AND START OUR CURRENT DEPLOYMENT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS, AS I MENTIONED, ON DISCHARGE. SO WE WILL LIKELY SEE AN EXPANDED OPERATING SEASON FOR THE SWIMMING AMENITY.

AND WE CERTAINLY EXPECT WITH THE SORT OF THE BUOY CONCEPT, TO PERHAPS HAVE ADDITIONAL OFF SEASON ACTIVITY IN THE SPACE.

IT WILL BE, THE WATER WILL BE COLD, BUT WE WE EXPECT SOME ENHANCED USABILITY OF THIS SPACE IN THE OFF SEASON, UNLIKE WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY WITH THE WITH OUR CURRENT AMENITIES.

SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YEAR ROUND USE, IT'S SORT OF TWOFOLD.

IT'S MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE WATER FEATURE ITSELF, LIKELY MORE YEAR ROUND USE.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN THEIR IN THEIR SWIMSUITS SWIMMING AROUND IN DECEMBER. WE DON'T EXPECT THAT. BUT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO WANT TO GET IN THERE AND LAP SWIM IN A, SOME TYPE OF.

OR MAYBE THEY'RE JUST INTO THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT THAT POSSIBILITY WILL WILL POTENTIALLY BE AVAILABLE.

WE ALSO TALK ABOUT, OF COURSE, THE OPEN AND IT'S A SMALL PORTION AND I DON'T WANT TO OVER PROMISE THE IMPACT, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPENING A SEGMENT OF THE LAGOON YEAR ROUND AS A MORE TRADITIONAL PARK TYPE SPACE.

WE DON'T CURRENTLY DO THAT TODAY FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

WE CAN'T LET PEOPLE INTO THE LAGOON UNLESS IT'S LIFEGUARDED BECAUSE OF THE STANDING WATER THAT EXISTS IN THE IN THE FACILITY.

ONCE WE ADD NEW SECURITY FENCING, WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BE IN THAT SANDY SPACE WITHOUT US ACTUALLY ATTENDING TO THE WATER ENVIRONMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE ENHANCED YEAR ROUND USE.

AND I THINK TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE POINT, I ALSO THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE WITH THE INCREASED MULTI-PURPOSE USABILITY OF THE SPACE, LIKELY TO BE MORE EVENTS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE IDENTIFIED YET.

RIGHT. IF I COULD JUMP IN, SINCE YOU HAVE THIS IMAGE UP, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE NOT IN THE 100.

WE'RE NOT IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. RIGHT. BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE COULDN'T, OTHER THAN COST.

AND WE CAN CHANGE THIS OVER TIME THAT THAT GREEN SEASONAL FENCE COULDN'T GO MORE NORTH.

RIGHT. COULD INCORPORATE MORE OF THE PARK. THAT'S TRUE.

AND, AND SOME OF THE PICNIC TABLES AND STUFF THAT ARE UP THERE.

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THIS IS JUST DRAWN TO SHOW AN INGRESS AND, AND ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU KNOW, ONE TO THE PROMENADE AND ONE OUT TO THE PARKING LOT.

FOR THAT YOU CAN GET THROUGHPUT TO THE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PARK WHEN IT'S WHEN IT, WHEN THE SEASONAL FENCE IS UP.

YEAH. SO THE PARK IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR FREE.

IT'S GOT BATHROOMS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE WHATEVER AMENITIES MIGHT BE THERE.

AS PART OF THAT, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS PHASE ONE OF 3 OR 4.

DOES ANY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING PRECLUDE ADDING A WAVE POOL IN THE FUTURE, ADDING IN OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO COME UP WITH? YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE HAD THE PUBLIC'S INPUT AND WE HAD ALL THESE IMAGINATIVE IDEAS.

BUT IF PHASE ONE DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT THEN GREAT.

IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, WHILE WE'RE EVEN JUST GETTING THIS THING BUILT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO GET, SPEND MORE TIME ON GETTING GOOD PROPOSALS. AND HONESTLY, IF WE LOST SOME OF THE PARKING LOT TO ADDING MORE FACILITIES, THAT WOULD MAKE THAT MORE USEFUL. I THINK THAT COULD BE A TRADE OFF AS WELL BECAUSE THAT PARKING LOT IS GENERALLY NOT FULLY USED.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE WILLING TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF THE LAGOON, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, YES, THERE COULD BE ANY ITERATION OF OF FUTURE PHASES AT THE SITE.

THERE'S NOW OBVIOUSLY THIS AQUATIC AMENITY IS GOING TO TAKE UP WHAT IS THE KIND OF WESTERN QUADRANT OF THE FACILITY, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WILL BE. IT'S UNLIKELY WE WOULD RELOCATE THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT CAN THINGS BE ADDED TO THE EAST OR POTENTIALLY TO THE SOUTH? YES. IN PHASES TWO, THREE, FOUR. YEAH. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE INTELLECTUALLY HONEST HERE.

THIS PLACEMENT OF THE LAGOON, I THINK ALAN SAID LAST NIGHT THAT THEY COULD MAKE ONE AS SMALL AS ABOUT AN ACRE WAS THE SMALLEST.

I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEONE ELSE SAY 20,000FT².

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE. AND I THINK YOU HAVE A DRAWING IN HERE THAT SHOWS THE STORMWATER PIPES.

BUT THERE ARE THERE IS AN. THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS, CONSTRAINTS THAT WE COULDN'T BUILD ACROSS OR OVER.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO MOVE THOSE PIPES, EVEN IF YOU GAVE THEM THE MONEY, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE AVENUE, A RAMP IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FAST.

SO WE'D BE A DECADE WAITING. IT WOULD TAKE, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT MOVE INTO THE PARKING AREA TO ACCOMMODATE.

AND I'M CAUTIOUS OF EATING UP THE PARKING AREA.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AN EXCESS FROM OUR STUDY, WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE MARKET HALL IN.

SO, YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP SOME PARKING SPACES.

AND I'M JUST SAYING, WE'RE NOT CLOSING OFF AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOREVER FOR THE NEXT.

BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT THE 30 YEARS, THE 40 YEARS FUTURE.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN 30 OR 40 YEARS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE HERE. I DO WANT TO YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO REDO BUILDINGS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF EXPANDING THE PARK INTO THE ROUNDABOUT.

SO THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SOME FACILITIES AND SPACE UP THERE THAT WILL BE TAKING THAT WILL BE INCORPORATING INTO THE PARK IN A FUTURE PHASE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

I THINK HONESTLY, A LOT OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED.

I DON'T WANT TO REHASH IT. YOU MENTIONED THE HARBOR COMMISSION'S WORK ON THIS AND MAYBE THEIR DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM AFTER NOT HAVING SEEN IT FOR A WHILE.

AS YOU MENTIONED, I THINK WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT THAT MISCOMMUNICATION.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SALT WATER. YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD MORE MONEY, WHAT WOULD WE DO? WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO IF WE HAD MORE MONEY.

AND WE ARE ACTIVELY ADVOCATING FOR MORE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT AND MANY OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S, IT'S. MOVING THIS FORWARD WHILE WE DO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND REFINE THE PLAN AS IT, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. BUT I KNOW A LOT'S BEEN SAID, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. SURE.

JUST BRIEFLY. THE WORDS THAT PUT ME OFF ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUR CURRENT PLAN STARTED OUT WITH A SPEAKER WHO CAME DOWN.

I WON'T MENTION BY NAME, BUT HE SAID, EXCUSE ME.

THE COUNCIL'S CURRENT PLAN PROPOSES TO LOCK IN LOW INCOME USES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

AND THAT WAS OFF PUTTING TO ME BECAUSE WHEN I SEE KIDS BUSED IN HERE, WHEN I SEE THE JOY THAT THEY GET AT THE SEASIDE LAGOON,

[03:25:06]

I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE SEASIDE LAGOON IS INTENDED TO BE.

A PLACE FOR 50,000 PEOPLE OF ALL TYPES, COLORS, DEMOGRAPHIC, GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION TO COME DOWN AND ENJOY THE SEASIDE. SECONDLY, I DON'T HAVE A MANDATE THROUGH MY THREE ELECTIONS.

I DON'T HAVE MY. I DON'T HAVE A MANDATE TO CONVERT PUBLIC LAND INTO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

ALL RIGHT. THIRD, I DON'T SEE ANY SURF CLUB, WAVE POOL DEVELOPER COMING DOWN SAYING, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT SPOT.

FORGET SEA LEVEL RISE. WE CAN DO IT HERE. THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO PENCIL.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE SO MUCH SENSE. AND YET I HEAR THESE STORIES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EL SEGUNDO.

NO WAY. NOT TOUCHING IT. THIS IS AMAZING. A $10 MILLION RENOVATION OF A THING THAT'S NOT GOING TO COST US LIABILITY GOING FORWARD IN FEES. THAT MONEY COULD BE PUT TOWARDS PAYING PEOPLE SO WE CAN KEEP THIS OPEN MORE MORE OF THE YEAR.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK ALL OF YOU, WITH ALL OF YOU.

THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN REDONDO BEACH.

THERE'S A POWER PLANT THAT'S GOT MULTIPLE ACRES THAT'S SITTING THERE IDLY.

NEVER, NEVER WILL BE FIRED UP AGAIN. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

THAT POWER PLANTS IN BANKRUPTCY. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD ENHANCE SHADE, CAL SURF CLUB, YOU NAME IT. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, I WILL CALL THE VOTE THEN.

THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO ADVANCE THE WELL, TO APPROVE FINAL PREPARATION AND SUBMITTAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION, THE COASTAL COMMISSION, AND TO APPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL EXEMPTION DECLARATION FOR THE PROJECT.

OKAY. ALL FOR IT? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

THANKS, EVERYBODY. DO YOU GUYS NEED A BREAK? YES.

MOTION. MOTION FOR REALLY SHORT. TEN MINUTES.

WE HAVE THE NOMINATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'M GOOD. BUT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE FIVE MINUTES.

FOR A FIVE MINUTE. FIVE. SECOND A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

OKAY. ALL FOR? AYE. OKAY FIVE MINUTE BREAK WE'LL BE BACK HERE BY 9:30.

PAUSES, AM I RIGHT? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT.

HERE. AND MAYOR LIGHT. HERE. OKAY, WE'RE JUMPING DOWN TO O CITY MANAGER ITEMS.

[O. CITY MANAGER ITEMS]

ANYTHING? JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING MAYOR. I MENTIONED THIS LAST TWO MEETINGS. WE ARE DARK NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT HERE, AND THEN WE'RE BACK HERE IN THE CHAMBERS ON THE 29TH. A FEW OF US FOR COMMISSION TRAINING AND ORIENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR MEETING HERE. WILL THAT BE IN HERE? IT'LL BE IN HERE.

YES. OKAY. YES, I BELIEVE SO. UNLESS I THINK IT'S IN HERE.

YEAH. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST OUR FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.

FIRST TUESDAY, OF COURSE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOING TO ITEM P.1. THIS IS MAYOR AND COUNCIL ITEMS.

[P. MAYOR AND COUNCIL ITEMS]

I'VE RECOMMENDED THE APPOINTMENT OF RICK LUCE, WHO YOU'VE SEEN INTERVIEWED HERE FOR THE OPEN RECENTLY OPEN POSITION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO MAKE A MOTION TO CONFIRM RICK LUCE TO FILL THAT SPOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL FOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHEN CAN HE GET SWORN IN? BECAUSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF.

[Q. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REFERRALS TO STAFF]

COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER, I THINK I HAD ONE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER IT.

SO NONE. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASTLE. NOTHING FOR TONIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER KALUDEROVIC. ONE. IS A BRR. SURPRISE, SURPRISE.

IN ABOUT A MONTH OR SO OR WHENEVER IT'S THE RIGHT TIME, CAN WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER? SORRY, THE DESIGNER ON MEASURE FP THE POLICE STATION COME FORWARD AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL WHERE THEY HAVE HAD TO, WHAT IS IT? COST VALUE ENGINEER THE DESIGN AND THE LIKE? AND AND JUST GET A YOU KNOW, WE CAN INVITE THE POA TO COME DOWN OR THE PMU JUST TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE ADEQUATE, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE LONG LASTING,

[03:30:07]

AND WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION, A, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE, OR LET'S PUT PUMP THE BRAKES HERE A LITTLE BIT AND LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET AND WHETHER WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK OR RESIDENT RESIDENT SUPPORT TO SEEK MORE FUNDING FOR A SINGLE POLICE STATION OR SUCH. ARE YOU PLANNING TO COME BACK WITH? WELL, WE ARE PLANNING TO COME BACK WITH OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN BASED ON THE EFFORTS THUS FAR TO LOOK AT PROGRAM PROGRAMING AND WHAT WE BELIEVE WE CAN AFFORD WITHIN OUR CURRENT RESOURCES. SO THAT WILL COME TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. IT MIGHT BE NOVEMBER, IT MIGHT BE DECEMBER. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT THAT IS A NEXT STEP IN THE PLAN PLANNING PROCESS.

YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT IF YOU WANT TO SEEK ADDITIONAL INPUT THROUGH THAT, YOU'LL CERTAINLY HEAR FROM OUR COMMAND STAFF.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE CHIEF, YOU'LL HEAR FROM MY TEAM. YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR PLANNING TEAM, OUR ARCHITECT. OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE OTHERS THAT CAN PROVIDE INPUT AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT IS A LOGICAL THAT THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

IS THAT LIKE TOO FAR DOWN THE LINE WHERE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE NOT GOING TO BE? NO, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TIME YOU CAN ACTUALLY STUDY AND ANALYZE WHAT'S AFFORDABLE WITHIN OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF FUNDING.

OKAY, SO THAT'S GOING TO NATURALLY HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, A DECISION TO PUMP THE BRAKES AND SEEK MORE MONEY IS AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME OR CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH. AND IF WE COULD GET IT EARLY AT ALL TO REVIEW BEFORE WE GET IN THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. WELL, WE'LL HAVE THE DOC. I MEAN, AS THE CONCEPTS UNFOLD, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM TO YOU AS EARLY AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE. I LOOK FOR I'M EAGERLY AWAITING THEM MYSELF.

SO YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT.

THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A CHECK IN WITH COUNCIL ON SCOPE AND DESIGN AND, AND FUNDING.

AND I THINK WHERE'S LUKE PROBABLY IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT. 2 TO 3 WITH THE PLAN NEXT MONTH.

YEAH. WELL YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD COME BACK WITH CONCEPTS.

I'D SAY 2 TO 3 IF YOU WANT TO. I THINK I WOULD SAY 2 TO 3 MONTHS IS POSSIBLE.

YES. MAY I ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR REQUEST THAT IF WE TALK ABOUT A DELAY, IF THEY ALSO INCLUDE SOME SOME ESTIMATES OF THE RATE OF INFLATION, OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WE HAVE A $90 MILLION BOND.

WE'RE KIND OF RACING AGAINST TIME BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP 7 TO 10% A YEAR.

SO ONE YEAR DELAY WOULD COST, YOU KNOW, SIX AND 6.3 TO TO, YOU KNOW, $9 MILLION.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DELAY, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE OUR MONEY WILL GO.

AND THEN PART OF THE PLAN, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, IS TO CREATE A CONCEPT THAT CAN BE PHASED AND WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGES LATER.

SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I MEAN, THAT'S ALL GOOD INFORMATION TO GET OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND, AND LET EVERYBODY BE AWARE OF, HEY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THESE, THE COST LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND FUTURE ADDITIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND YEAH, I SUPPORT DOING IT ON SCHEDULE VERSUS AN EARLY VERSION BECAUSE THAT TAKES TIME AND MONEY.

YEAH. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW HELPFUL AN EARLY VERSION IS.

YOU NEED TO SEE IT WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY CONDUCIVE TO DECISION MAKING AND CONSIDERATION, NOT MORE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATION.

SURE. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. I WITHDRAW THAT.

TO THE POINT HE WAS MAKING ABOUT THE THE CONCESSIONS WITH VALUE ENGINEERING.

IT WILL BE ALL DETAILED IN THAT, THAT. IT WILL, THERE'S NO VALUE ENGINEERING YET AT THIS STAGE.

IT'S SPATIAL PLANNING ENGINEERING. THAT'S THE STAGE WE'RE IN.

VALUE ENGINEERING WILL COME WHEN WE ACTUALLY BETTER UNDERSTAND THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS AND WHAT'S BEING AFFORDED WITHIN THOSE CONCEPTS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A 25000 SQUARE FOOT NEW CONSTRUCTED MAIN STATION BEING DESIGNED, RENOVATED BASEMENT AT 5500FT² AND A RENOVATED ANNEX.

NET NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE POLICE FACILITIES.

I THINK AROUND 10000 SQUARE FEET. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CURRENTLY CONCEPTUALIZED.

WE'LL HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT IMPACT IS AT THE TIME. SO IT'S CANDIDLY A LOT BIGGER THAN I EXPECTED IT TO BE GIVEN OUR LEVEL OF FUNDING.

SO WE'LL TALK THROUGH ALL OF THAT AT THE RIGHT TIME.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT. NONE THANK YOU.

AND NONE FOR ME. SO GOING DOWN TO ADJOURNMENT TONIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNING IN THE MEMORY OF COUNCIL MEMBER PAIGE'S,

[V. ADJOURNMENT]

PAIGE KALUDEROVIC KALUDEROVIC'S FATHER IN LAW AND I WILL GIVE THE FLOOR TO YOU BEFORE I ASK FOR THE MOTION TO ADJOURN.

THANK YOU. I INVITED MY DAUGHTER CLARA HERE TO HELP ME DO THIS.

CLARA, WILL YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? EVEN WEARING REDONDO BEACH WEAR.

YES. HI. MY NAME IS CLARA KALUDEROVIC, AND I AM GOING TO READ A SPEECH FOR HIM. MY GRANDFATHER WAS ÐOKO KALUDEROVIC.

[03:35:01]

I CALLED HIM DETA, BUT JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE CALLED HIM CHOPIN.

HE EARNED THAT NAME AS A KID. HE AND HIS FRIENDS WERE STEALING APPLES ONE DAY AND THE OWNER CAUGHT HIM AND STARTED SPANKING HIM.

HIS FRIEND SAID HE CRIED THE WAY CHOPIN PLAYS THE PIANO, AND FROM THEN ON HE WAS CHOPIN.

HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER IN YUGOSLAVIA.

BEFORE THERE WAS JOKIC OR DONCIC, THERE WAS KALUDEROVIC.

HE LOVES SPORTS. HE MET MY GRANDMA IN BANJA LUKA, BOSNIA, AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON, SHE WAS THE CENTER OF HIS UNIVERSE.

HE, THEY WERE MARRIED FOR 54 YEARS. HE WAS A MAN WHO, WHEN WAR TURNED AGAINST HIM, WAR TURNED AGAINST HIS OWN NEIGHBORS, HE DID NOT PICK UP A GUN TO FIGHT OUT OF FEAR.

INSTEAD, HE SOLD HIS GUN AND MADE THE IMPOSSIBLE DECISION TO LEAVE HIS HOME, TO BRING HIS FAMILY TO SAFETY AND PROTECT THE ONES HE HAD TO LEAVE BEHIND. MORE THAN ANYTHING, HE LOVED AND LIVED FOR HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

HE LEAVES BEHIND THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE HIS SONS IGOR AND VEDRAN, FOUR GRANDCHILDREN AND ONE GREAT GRANDSON.

THERE'S A WORD IN BOSNIAN. TAMAN. IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE EASILY INTO ENGLISH, BUT IT JUST MEANS IT MEANS JUST RIGHT OR PERFECT IN A WAY, IN THE WAY THAT NOTHING IS MISSING AND NOTHING IS IN EXCESS.

HE LOVED THE SONG BY THIS NAME AND SANG IT LOUDLY.

HE BUILT A TAMAN LIFE NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE. EVEN WHEN THE ATROCITIES OF WAR CHANGED EVERYTHING, HE FOUND TAMAN AGAIN. WE LOVE YOU DETA. GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST ADJOURNMENT WE'VE EVER HAD.

WELL, I JUST HAVE TO SAY ONE MORE THING. SO, ALTHOUGH DIFFICULT TO PRONOUNCE, KALUDEROVIC HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO TAKE AS MY OWN AND TO HEAR IT IN SO MANY ITERATIONS FROM EVERYBODY.

BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW THE WORLD SHIFTED TO BRING THIS NAME TO ME, I'M JUST IN AWE.

AND MY FATHER IN LAW WAS AN INCREDIBLE MAN WITH MANY QUALITIES.

AND HIS NAME, THIS NAME ABOVE ALL, MEANS STRENGTH AND KINDNESS.

AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE THAT WE COULD ALL USE.

SO IT IS MY HONOR TO HAVE HIS NAME AND TO CARRY IT FORWARD.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN IN HONOR OF ÐOKO ŠOPEN KALUDEROVIC.

SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL FOR. AYE. THANK YOU. SO NEXT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S TOUGH TO FOLLOW. NEXT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING.

CLOSED SESSION AT 4:00 REGULAR. AND WE'RE AT FOUR, RIGHT.

OKAY. AND REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD AT SIX ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6TH.

RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL. THANK YOU. WELL DONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.