Sep 17, 2026 Planning Commission

OKAY, VERY WELL. WE'RE GOING TO START THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TONIGHT, SEPTEMBER 17TH.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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COMMISSIONER LIGHT? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER YOUNG? HERE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LUCE? HERE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE? HERE. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG? PRESENT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND OUR NEW COMMISSIONER RICK LUCE, WOULD YOU BE HAPPY TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? ABSOLUTELY. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY, SO CAN I GET, WE'RE, NEXT IS ON APPROVAL OF AGENDA.

[D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS.

[E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NEXT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[F. CONSENT CALENDAR]

I THOUGHT SO. BUSINESS ITEMS, EXCEPT THOSE FORMERLY NOTICED FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR THOSE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THE CHAIR OR ANY COMMISSION MEMBER MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY.

ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE EXECUTE THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW.

THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

THE CHAIR WILL CALL ON ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PULLED BY THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION.

EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE, AND COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES.

SPEAKER. ANY SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE? ANY SPEAKER CARDS JAMAL? ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. GOOD. OKAY. THERE.

YOU HAVE NO EXCLUDED ITEMS. NOW WE'RE AT THE SECTION EIGHT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR AND COMMISSION.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

I BELIEVE I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL WALKING FORWARD.

CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? HELLO FRIENDS.

I AM A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT. AND YOUR MICROPHONES ON.

OKAY. IF YOU COULD START AGAIN. HELLO, FRIENDS.

I CAN MOVE THE PODIUM UP TO IF YOU WANT. OH, YOU GET TO RAISE THE PODIUM.

YEAH. I'VE NEVER BEEN ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS.

ANYWAYS. YEAH, DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT. AND UNTIL RECENTLY, PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

I WANTED TO COME TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO GIVE YOU ALL A PROPER GOODBYE AND TO THANK YOU.

SINCERELY I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED MY TIME ON THIS COMMISSION, AND I LEARNED FROM ALL OF YOU.

AND IT MEANT A LOT TO ME. THIS ENDS A EIGHT, OVER EIGHT AND A HALF YEAR RUN ON COMMISSIONS, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END.

I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE WORK THAT THIS COMMISSION DOES IS IMPORTANT.

AND I TOOK MY ROLE AS A COMMISSIONER SERIOUSLY.

YOU KNOW, I JUST SOMETIMES LIFE HAPPENS. AND THIS THE, THE LAST MEETING IN PARTICULAR, I WAS ALL STUDIED UP.

I SEE YOU GET TO MEET WITH A LOT OF THE SAME FOLKS AS LAST TIME, BUT I WAS ALL STUDIED UP AND READY TO GO.

MY WIFE THE WEEK PRIOR HAD A HIP REPLACEMENT SURGERY AND SHE WAS HAVING A LOT OF SWELLING.

AND THE DOCTOR SAID THAT SHE NEEDED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

SO I TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL, AND I DON'T REGRET THAT DECISION AT ALL.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GUYS MEAN TO ME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JASON.

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POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MR. CONROY. I THINK I COULD SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.

IT WAS A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU, TOO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THAT AGENDA, OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ONLINE COMMENTS OR SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS AND NO ONLINE ATTENDEES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

VERY GOOD. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM J.1 FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS IS A. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE START WITH DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION THEY'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN EITHER,

[I. EX PARTE COMMUNICATION]

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? NONE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG? MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? NONE.

COMMISSIONER LUCE? NONE, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE? WITH J.1 IT WAS CHAIR CRAIG, AND THEN I THINK IT'S K.1 WAS THE PUBLIC CHAIR CRAIG AND MAYOR LIGHT AND THE STAFF. VERY GOOD. J.1, THAT'S CORRECT.

I WOULD I COMMUNICATE WITH COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE.

ON K.1. I BELIEVE IT WAS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER GADDIS AND HAZELTINE THAT WE SPOKE BRIEFLY, I THINK ON THAT. MAYOR LIGHT. A COUPLE OF THE LET'S SEE.

COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI. COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT NOT BRIEFLY JUST.

AND THEN I WAS STAFF, SO. VERY GOOD. SO ON ITEM J.1.

[J. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THIS ITEM TONIGHT BEFORE YOU WILL BE PRESENTED BY OUR ASSOCIATE PLANNER DANIEL BISSONETTE.

BESINAIZ. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO DANIEL NOW TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T MET YET, NICE TO MEET YOU.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO I MET LAST TIME. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS FIRST ITEM AT 3500 AVIATION BOULEVARD.

IT IS A CUP FOR A PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICE AND ASSOCIATED PARKING FOR MUSIC SCHOOL KNOWN AS COAST MUSIC.

THE SITE'S PRIMARY ADDRESS IS ON AVIATION BOULEVARD, BUT IT'S PROBABLY BETTER KNOWN AS THE FORMER BANK BUILDING ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF AVIATION BOULEVARD AND WARWICK AVENUE, JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF AVIATION AND MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT ZONED. THE WESTERN SIDE FRONTING AVIATION IS ZONED C-1, COMMERCIAL.

THE EASTERN SIDE IS ZONED R-2 LOW DENSITY MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

EXISTING ON THE SITE IS A TWO-STORY, ABOUT 3,600 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

IT WAS BUILT IN THE 70S AND HAS BEEN VARIOUS BANKS UP UNTIL THE MOST RECENT CLOSURE IN 2025.

THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT IS FOR APPROVAL OF A CUP FOR A PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICE FOR MUSIC, CONSTRUCTION, MUSIC INSTRUCTION, NOT CONSTRUCTION.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS A STRUCTURE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT HAS SERVED AS ONE BANK OR ANOTHER SINCE THE 70S.

THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT ZONE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE WESTERN SIDE AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON THE EASTERN SIDE, WHERE MOST OF THE PARKING IS LOCATED. ACROSS THE STREET IS MANHATTAN BEACH JURISDICTION TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG AVIATION BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL. TO THE EAST AND NORTH AND NORTHEAST THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

COAST MUSIC PLANS TO TAKE OVER THE EXISTING BUILDING.

THERE IS A DRIVE THROUGH PORTION OF THE BUILDING EXISTING THAT IS ALSO PROPOSED TO BE ENCLOSED IN ADDITION TO THE STRUCTURE.

THAT ENCLOSURE KEEPS THE EXISTING ROOF LINE, MEANING THERE WILL BE NO ADDITION TO THE HEIGHT. THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND LOCATION.

THEY HAVE THEIR FIRST IN MANHATTAN BEACH. THE MUSIC INSTRUCTION HERE WOULD INCLUDE PRIVATE MUSIC LESSONS AS ITS PRIMARY SERVICE, AS WELL AS BAND REHEARSALS, CHAMBER MUSIC ENSEMBLES, A CAPPELLA REHEARSALS, AND MUSIC THEATER REHEARSALS.

THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FROM 10 A.M.

TO 9:30 P.M., FRIDAY FROM 10 A.M. TO 8 P.M., AND SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FROM 9 A.M.

TO 4 P.M.. DURING THEIR BUSIEST PEAK HOURS, THEY MAY HAVE 11 TO 13 TEACHERS, PLUS ONE FRONT DESK STAFF.

STUDENTS AT THESE AT THIS TIME USUALLY RANGE FROM 11 TO 18, DEPENDING ON IF THERE ARE ANY SMALL GROUP ACTIVITIES.

THE PROJECT SITE MEETS THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THESE PEAK HOURS.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BUILDING FROM AVIATION. ON THE TOP IMAGE AND FROM WARWICK AVENUE ON THE BOTTOM IMAGE.

STAFF IDENTIFIED NOISE AS A POTENTIAL CONCERN.

HOWEVER, AFTER REVIEWING THE SITE, WE FOUND EXISTING CONDITIONS INCLUDING LANDSCAPING, WALLS, FENCING AND GRADE SEPARATION THAT WILL HELP MINIMIZE ANY NOISE FROM TRAVELING FROM

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IT'S NECESSARY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THEIR STUDENTS AND BUSINESS TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT SOUNDPROOFING TO PREVENT NOISE FROM GOING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF THE EXTERNAL WALLS, AND ALSO BETWEEN ROOMS AND THE INTERNAL WALLS.

OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THE USE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND MUNICIPAL CODE.

THE PROJECT PROVIDES THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

MUSIC INSTRUCTION IS COMPATIBLE WITH USES ALONG AVIATION BOULEVARD AND SOUNDPROOFING OR NOISE ATTENUATION ARE REQUIRED AND DESIRED BY THE APPLICANT.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND GRANTING THE CUP SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS WITH THE ATTACHED DRAFT RESOLUTION AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT BOTH ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

JUST AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT, CHAIR. ONE OF YOUR BLUE FOLDER ITEMS WAS A REVISED PLAN SET, AND WITHIN THAT IT SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL, THERE WAS A LOT OF COURSE, NOISE WAS THE POTENTIAL ISSUE WE REALLY DRILLED DOWN ON.

AND AS WE LEARNED AND THE APPLICANTS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT AT LENGTH, BUT IT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THEIR BUSINESS THAT EACH ONE OF THESE ROOMS BE SO SOUNDPROOF THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR THE MUSIC BEING PLAYED IN THE NEXT ROOM. SO WITH THAT, ALSO, WE STILL HAD A LITTLE BIT CONCERNS WITH THE BAND PERFORMANCE ROOM WHICH IS THE ENCLOSED DRIVE THROUGH AREA. AND THEN AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE REVISED PLAN SET, IF YOU GO TO THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THAT, IT INCLUDES NOW VESTIBULE. SO THOSE DOORS WHICH OPEN OUT, THERE'S A THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE FROM BY A VESTIBULE AND ANOTHER SET OF DOORS.

SO STAFF'S EXTREMELY CONFIDENT THAT THE ONLY POTENTIAL ISSUE IS NOISE.

AND THE WAY THIS BUSINESS OPERATES, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, AS WE LEARNED, IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THE PROJECT.

SO AND THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.

VERY GOOD. AND I BELIEVE IN THE BLUE FOLDER ITEM, THERE WAS A SECTION SAYING THAT THAT ROOM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO A RECORDING STUDIO IN, BASICALLY. SO IT WOULD BE SOUNDPROOF ENOUGH FOR THAT PURPOSE. YEAH.

OKAY. AND VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? OKAY. ANYONE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? WE'RE HERE. OKAY. PLEASE COME UP. I HAVE TO ADMINISTER OATH.

DO YOU PROMISE TO SWEAR THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. PLEASE COME UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAMES FOR THE RECORD WHEN YOU COME UP. JOEL TKACH, ARCHITECT OF RECORD. BETH ROHDE, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF COAST MUSIC.

JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH STAFF AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND, HELPING COMMUNICATE AND UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, BUT WHAT OUR BUSINESS NEEDS ARE.

AND EXCITED, REALLY JUST APPRECIATIVE OF HELPING US THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS PER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND HOPE THAT THAT JUST REALLY CLARIFIED EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOUND.

YEAH, AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED TO MOVE TO REDONDO BEACH.

OUR FIRST HOME WAS IN REDONDO BEACH, AND WE LOVE IT HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

VERY GOOD. ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT I'M VERY PLEASED THAT WE HAVE A FACILITY TO TREAT EACH MUSIC.

I'M A LITTLE BIASED. I WAS A MUSIC MAJOR IN COLLEGE.

I PLAYED SAXOPHONE AND KEYBOARDS. NEXT TO ME IS ANOTHER MUSICIAN.

OH, NICE. WE'LL HAVE TO RECUSE OURSELVES. NO, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ANOTHER VENUE FOR KIDS.

ESPECIALLY WHEN, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE EDUCATION SYSTEM HAS FELT THAT MUSIC EDUCATION ISN'T QUITE AS IMPORTANT AS IT WAS WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL.

AND IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS THAT KIDS CAN GO AND LEARN.

YEAH, OBVIOUSLY MUSIC EDUCATION I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, SO.

I DO TOO. YEAH, DEFINITELY. YEAH. VERY GOOD. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO ASK QUESTIONS OR.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. YEAH, AND NOW WE LIKE TO MOTION TO OPEN THE MEETING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU HAVE ANY CARDS JAMAL? NO CARDS. ANY SPEAKERS ONLINE OR ANYONE PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THERE ARE NO E ATTENDEES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-09-PCR-10.

RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH ADOPTING AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND APPROVING THE REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE OPERATION OF A

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DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. AND WE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER LIGHT? AYE. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER YOUNG? AYE. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? AYE. COMMISSIONER LUCE? AYE. COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE? YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG? YES, VERY MUCH SO. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT WAS EASY. WELCOME TO REDONDO BEACH.

OKAY, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEMS CONTINUE FROM OUR PREVIOUS AGENDA.

[K. ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS ]

SO THIS IS A CONTINUE. I THINK YOU MENTIONED TO US THIS IS A CONTINUATION FROM A PRIOR MEETING.

IT'S PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN. PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

YEAH. BUT WHEN WE HAVE A NEW MEETING IT ESSENTIALLY RESETS WITH THE ITEMS IN THERE IS WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S A RESET. YOU MEAN EVERYTHING IS PRESENTED AGAIN IF WE NEED.

NO, NO, NOT EVERYTHING. BUT BASICALLY IF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANTED TO COMMENT, THEY CAN.

OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. YEAH. PLEASE GO AHEAD, MR. SCULLY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SEAN SCULLY.

PLANNING MANAGER. I'VE GOT A SLIDE DECK. JUST A REAL BRIEF RECAP.

THE LAST HEARING THAT WE HAD, AND THEN YOU KNOW, JUST WALK THROUGH A FEW DISCOVERIES THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE INTERIM PERIOD.

SO THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. IT'S FOR THE VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE 30-FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE IC-1 ZONE WITH PROPOSED CRYOGENIC TANKS FOR AT 38FT HIGH.

NEXT. OKAY, SO THE OVERVIEW, THE LOCATION 2477 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD.

THE ZONE AGAIN AS IC-1 INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL.

THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT 250,000FT² AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING FACILITY.

AND I'LL NOTE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AGAIN TONIGHT.

IT'S A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED HEIGHT IN THAT ZONE.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT.

AND THIS SLIDE IS JUST A RECAP OF WHAT WENT DOWN ON AUGUST 20TH.

YOU KNOW WE INTRODUCED THE PROJECT, THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT AND ARE PRIMARILY USED FOR THE MANUFACTURING AND ASSEMBLING OF, AND TESTING OF COMPONENTS FOR THE AEROSPACE BUSINESS.

THE ZONING AGAIN, THE HEIGHT LIMIT. AND THEN PLANNING AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PRESENTED SAFETY AND NOISE INFORMATION.

THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID PRIOR TO BRINGING THE ITEM BEFORE YOU.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER SAFETY SLIDE THAT KIND OF RECAPS THAT.

AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTINUED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING SAFETY AND THE MATERIALS STORED IN THE TANKS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT WE SHOWED LAST TIME.

IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, STAFF DID LOOK CLOSELY OBVIOUSLY AT THE SAFETY OF THE PROPOSED TANKS.

A LOT OF WHAT WILL GO THROUGH ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT STAFF DID IN THE INTERIM IS WE REALLY LOOKED AT IN THE EVENT THE TANKS WERE APPROVED, WHAT'S THE PERMITTING AND REVIEW PROCESS THAT THE THAT THE TANKS WOULD GO THROUGH.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE ALL THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, BELTS AND SUSPENDERS AND CODES AND REGULATIONS AND CERTIFICATIONS ALL COME INTO PLAY.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ADD TO THE LIST THAT WE HAD HERE THAT WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING IS THAT LAST ITEM.

AND I PUT IT IN BOLD JUST SO IT, IT STOOD OUT.

BUT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER SAFETY ELEMENTS OF THESE TANKS THERE'S REMOTE TELEMETRY MONITORING GOING ON.

SO THAT'S 24/7. ANY CHANGES IN TANK PRESSURE OR BOIL OFF RATES OR OTHER METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE TANKS IS CONSTANTLY BEING MONITORED, AND THAT, IF IT THERE'S THRESHOLDS FOR WHAT TRIGGERS AN ABNORMAL DROP OR SPIKE IN PRESSURE, AND THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATION THAT GOES OUT AND THAT THE TANKS GET IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. SO, I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE SAFETY ELEMENTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED HERE.

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THIS IS PRE-APPROVAL. SO DURING PLAN CHECK THE, AND ALL THESE ITEMS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT, BUT THERE'S REQUIRED COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES AND NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS AND CERTIFICATIONS, AND THEY RELATE TO SITE CONDITIONS, STRUCTURAL FOUNDATIONS AND ATTACHMENT DETAILS, REQUIRED CLEARANCES FROM ADJACENT BUILDINGS AND BUILDING OPENINGS, TANK SPECIFICATIONS, PRESSURE RELIEF SYSTEMS AND EMERGENCY SHUT OFFS. AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN CHECK PROCESS.

SO IT COMES IN, AND IF ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON THE PLAN THAT COMES IN FROM THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AND THEY'RE EITHER CLEARED OR THEY'RE PUT ON A LIST AND SENT BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THEN WE SKIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THE POST APPROVAL PROCESS.

THEN THE PERMITS ISSUE. THERE'S MULTIPLE FIELD INSPECTIONS THAT VERIFY THE INSTALLATION COMPLIES WITH THE APPROVED PLANS AND ALL THE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'LL GO OUT AND THEY'LL VERIFY THE TANK'S CAPACITY, THE MANUFACTURER'S INFORMATION.

ALL THE CERTIFICATIONS, THEY MATCH WHAT WAS APPROVED ON THE PLANS.

AND OF COURSE, NO VISIBLE DAMAGE OR CORROSION OR LEAKS.

THEY'RE ALL IN WORKING ORDER. ALL THE REQUIRED SEPARATIONS ARE REAL CRITICAL DISTANCES FROM BUILDINGS, EXITS, AIR INTAKES, AND PROPERTY LINES. AND THEN AFTER THEIR INSPECTION, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, OF COURSE, BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS WELL ON ALL THE STRUCTURAL ATTACHMENTS HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, BUSINESS PLAN TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTING SYSTEM, THE CERS, IT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED.

AND THAT TRIGGERS A NOTIFICATION TO THE LOCAL CERTIFIED UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCY, WHICH IS CUPA AND IN THIS CASE, THEIR LA COUNTY FIRE. AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND INSPECT FOR ALL THE DETAILS THAT ARE REQUIRED THROUGH THE REPORTING SYSTEMS AND THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INSPECTION, AND THEY DO THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM. WE BELIEVE THEY'RE LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE IN LIKE 2 OR 3 DAYS.

YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THIS IS A BIG ISSUE. THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT AND THEY'LL BE GOING OUT AND DOING THEIR INSPECTIONS.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF RECAP ON THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON THAT.

BUT, BUT NOW TO KIND OF PIVOT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OR DENIAL OF, OF THE VARIANCE. THERE'S SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS OF, OF A FACILITY AREN'T IN THOSE CRITERIA. SO THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE THE CRITERIA IT HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD WARRANT THE ISSUANCE OF THE VARIANCE TO TO ALLOW THE TANKS TO BE 38FT TALL INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 30. JUST ONE MORE COMMENT BACK ON THE SAFETY SIDE.

THE 38FT. THAT'S A STANDARD TANK SIZE AND HEIGHT FOR THESE FOR THESE TANKS.

AND THESE TANKS HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR DECADES.

AND, YOU KNOW, GOING TO SOME KIND OF A CUSTOM SIZE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RISKY, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE RISK, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL.

AND THEN ALSO THE SIZE AND THE NUMBER, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT REDUCES THE OVERALL, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THE TANKS HAVE TO BE REFILLED. AND SO THAT THAT'S WHERE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING TO OCCUR.

SO YOU'RE REDUCING THAT EFFECT AND REDUCING THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES BY REDUCING THOSE NUMBER OF REFILLS. SO YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSION WAS THINKING ABOUT.

BUT BACK AGAIN TO THE TO THE VARIANCE CRITERIA, THE SITE, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE GOT ARE THE CRITERIA WE NEED TO MAKE IS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OF THIS WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS THE SAME OR SIMILAR ZONE AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADJACENT ZONES THEY ALLOW A HEIGHT UP

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SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE SPECIAL SURROUNDING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD MAKE IN SUPPORT OF THE VARIANCE AND. AND THOSE ARE ARTICULATED IN DETAIL IN THE IN THE RESOLUTION.

SO THE, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT IS THE CRITERIA IS, IS THERE SOME SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OR SPECIAL PRIVILEGE BEING GRANTED TO THIS, THAT OTHER SIMILARLY ZONED PROPERTIES DON'T GET, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NO, SO.

SO WE CAN MAKE THE FINDINGS AND THEY'RE THERE IN THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION.

AND I URGE THE COMMISSION TO, TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE CRITERIA WITH RESPECT TO THE VARIANCE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THAT'S STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

AND WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. I THINK THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO SEE THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL THAT'S OH, ONE MORE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

COULD YOU GO TO THAT? AND SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND THE VARIANCE SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE RESOLUTION? AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SCULLY. SO THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS AND I, I, I'LL ASK YOU TO ADMINISTER THE OATH AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH I THINK IT'S STILL CONTINUED.

OR DO I NEED TO. YEAH. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. I DON'T HAVE TO.

PLEASE COME ON UP. BUT DO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE WE HAVE A TRANSCRIPT, SO THANK YOU.

SURE. I'M JEFF DEFAZIO. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ASSEMBLY INTEGRATION AND TEST AT IMPULSE.

MIKE MCDERMOTT, THE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS AT IMPULSE.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR SLIDES UP HERE FOR A SEC. BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY HERE.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IS ABSOLUTELY OUR PRIORITY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR OPERATIONS, NOT ONLY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS HERE, BUT CERTAINLY OUR OWN EMPLOYEES.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SAY HERE AS WE GET STARTED. SO AT IMPULSE SPACE, OUR MISSION RELIES ON AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR FACILITIES, AND OUR COMMUNITY. SAFETY IS FUNDAMENTAL TO WHO WE ARE AS A COMPANY, TO OUR SUCCESS AS A BUSINESS, AND TO OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A PROUD SPACE MANUFACTURER IN REDONDO BEACH.

OUR SUCCESS TO DATE HAS BEEN POSSIBLE ONLY BECAUSE OF A STRONG SAFETY CULTURE, AND WE CANNOT REACH OUR NEXT STAGE OF GROWTH OR UPHOLD THE PROUD TRADITION OF AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING IN REDONDO BEACH WITHOUT SUSTAINING THAT COMMITMENT.

THIS IS A VALUE WE SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.

LIKEWISE, A DEDICATION TO TRUTH IS A CORE PRINCIPLE OF ENGINEERING AND WILL CERTAINLY TAKE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS THIS EVENING. AND WE RECOGNIZE AND RESPECT THE DILIGENCE THIS COMMITTEE APPLIES WHEN EVALUATING ANY REQUESTED VARIANCE TO ENSURE COMMUNITY SAFETY.

AND WE APPEAR BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND WE'LL ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THAT'S RIGHT. THEY CAN DO THAT. JUST A SECOND.

THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OUR COMPANY.

WE PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME, BUT WE DO HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER, SO I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US.

WE ARE AN AEROSPACE COMPANY. SPACE IS IMPORTANT, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DO ON THE LEFT THERE. WE BUILD TWO SPACECRAFT. WE BUILD THE MIRA SPACECRAFT, WHICH IS ABOUT 1,000 POUNDS. WHEN IT'S FULLY LOADED, IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS DESK TIMES TWO. AND THEN HELIOS IS A MUCH LARGER VEHICLE.

THINK OF IT AS A ROCKET ON TOP OF A ROCKET. IT'S A KICK STAGE.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT HELPS GET SATELLITES FURTHER INTO ORBIT AROUND EARTH OR BEYOND.

GO TO THE MOON OR TO MARS IS WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO GO.

YES, SO AGAIN, THIS IS MIKE MCDERMOTT, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS AT IMPULSE.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THIS TOPIC IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

I OPERATE BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION PART OF IMPULSE BUSINESS, BUT I ALSO MANAGE THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY PIECE.

SO I KNOW MR. SCULLY TALKED A LOT ABOUT SAFETY.

AND SO MY JOB REALLY MARRIES THE, WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE BUILDING IT IN A WAY THAT IS NOT ONLY SAFE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO MEETS ANY TYPE OF REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

SO JUST HITTING MY NEXT SLIDE HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A FOCUSED LAND USE DECISION ON THE 8-FOOT VARIANCE. HOPEFULLY YOU HEAR THE GRAPHIC SHOWS, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT 8-FOOT VARIANCE IS RELATED TO THE HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING,

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YOU SEE OUR FACILITY THERE ON THE NORTH OF THE FACILITY OR AT THE TOP OF THE PHOTO.

WE OWN A SMALL STRIP BEHIND THE BUILDING THAT IS A FIRE LANE.

SO THE ONLY REASON THAT, THAT, THAT AREA IS THERE IS TO ALLOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ACCESS TO THE BUILDING WITHIN 150FT.

AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS ALL PARTS OF THE BUILDING FROM THE FRONT OR THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT FIRE LANE IN THE BACK.

IF YOU MOVE TO THE EAST OR ON THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO THAT IS A SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON RIGHT OF WAY.

CURRENTLY DEVIL MOUNTAIN, THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY UTILIZES THAT UNDER A SECONDARY LAND USE LEASE FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING NEEDS AND STORAGE OF PLANTS. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, SPECIFICALLY THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEN THE TANKS IN THE GRAPHIC BELOW.

REASON FOR THE LOCATION HERE IS BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY TO THE OPERATIONS THAT WILL UTILIZE THOSE GASES.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET TO, TO THOSE TANKS FOR CRYOGENIC TANKS, WHICH WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER.

OF THOSE FOUR, TWO ARE LIQUID NITROGEN AND TWO ARE LIQUID ARGON.

THOSE ARE REALLY COMMON GASES THAT ARE USED IN THE AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS.

THOSE MATERIALS ARE BEING STORED AS LIQUIDS AT LOW TEMPERATURES BUT THEN ARE CONVERTED TO GAS WHEN USED.

A GOOD EXAMPLE, LIQUID NITROGEN IS SUPER PURE AND ALL OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WE USE TO BUILD THE SPACECRAFT THAT JEFF TALKED ABOUT REQUIRE A HIGH LEVEL OF CLEANLINESS. SO WHEN YOU'RE CLEANING THOSE PARTS, YOU WANT TO USE SOMETHING LIKE A HIGH PURITY GAS LIKE NITROGEN TO CLEAN THEM.

SO YOU'RE NOT INTRODUCING FOD OR CONTAMINANTS INTO THAT PART, WHICH COULD ULTIMATELY AFFECT THE OPERATION OF THAT, THAT COMPONENT OR THAT HARDWARE. AND THEN FURTHER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WITH SIMILAR GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATIONS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT ALSO HAVE STORAGE TANKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT EXCEED THAT 30FT IN HEIGHT.

ADDITIONALLY, SEVERAL STRUCTURES ON THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN EXCESS OF 100FT, WHICH WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.

SO THESE TANKS ARE NEITHER UNUSUAL NOR OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE GENERAL AREA.

LAST NIGHT OR I'M SORRY, LAST MONTH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHARED WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER MANUFACTURING COMPANIES IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK STORING THESE EXACT SAME GASES AGAIN, LIKE, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. AND OUR REQUEST FOR THIS VARIANCE IS DRIVEN BY SAFETY, TECHNICAL, OPERATIONAL AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS RATHER THAN DESIGN PREFERENCE.

TONIGHT, WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT POINT. LAST MONTH WE RECEIVED QUESTIONS REGARDING POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE TANK'S DESIGNS.

INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, BURYING THEM, SETTING THEM DOWN IN THE GROUND, ALTERING THEIR SIZE OR ADJUSTING THEIR ORIENTATION.

ASKING IMPULSE TO MAKE A DESIGN-BASED CHANGE TO THE TANKS WOULD COMPROMISE THE SAFETY TECHNICAL, OPERATIONAL AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OF OUR BUSINESS.

SO PUT ANOTHER WAY, WE'RE REQUESTING THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE THE SAFEST OPTION IS ALIGNED WITH THE BEST TECHNICAL, OPERATIONAL AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS. OUR PLANNED EXPANSION FITS WELL WITHIN THE CITY'S RECENTLY UPDATED GENERAL PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES TECH BUSINESSES, SUPPORTS A HEALTHY BALANCE OF JOBS AND HOUSING, AND ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S BROADER GOALS.

AND OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, IMPULSE HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY THE MR. SCULLY HERE ON ALL OF THE PERMITS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AS WE UPDATE OUR FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, AND THESE TANKS AND SPECIFIC GASES ARE WIDELY USED ACROSS MANY INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING LOCAL NEIGHBORS, HOSPITALS AND UNIVERSITIES. SO IN SUMMARY, ON THIS SLIDE, YOU KNOW, WE RESPECTFULLY AGAIN, ASK THE COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THE REQUEST VARIANCE BASED ON THE INCREMENTAL IMPACT OF THE ADDITIONAL EIGHT FEET IN THE VARIANCE.

VERY GOOD. AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. SCULLY ALREADY WENT OVER.

AGAIN, PART OF MY JOB IS THE SAFETY AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE OF REALLY ANY COMPONENT TANK, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE ON OUR SITE. SO I WANTED TO LAY OUT THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR REALLY ANY LIKE PIECE OF HARDWARE OR TESTING EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

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SO WE'RE REALLY HERE REALLY AT STEP ONE, REQUESTING THE VARIANCE OF AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT FEET TO INSTALL THE TANKS.

NEXT, YOU KNOW, IF GRANTED THAT VARIANCE, WE WOULD MOVE ON TO THE BUILDING PERMIT AND PLAN REVIEW FOLLOWED BY FIRE CODE WITH OUR LOCAL REDONDO BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S LAST WAS HERE LAST MONTH, EXCUSE ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

WE'VE FOUND THAT INVOLVING YOU KNOW, THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THOSE EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS NOT ONLY GETS THEM INVOLVED BUT ALSO PROVIDES US FEEDBACK ON THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER OR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, THERE AREN'T ANY HICCUPS. AFTER THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT THE LOCAL CUPA OR THE LA COUNTY CUPA WILL BE INVOLVED.

ON THE SEARCH SIDE, I PERSONALLY WILL BE THE ONE THAT SUBMITS THESE TANKS, THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE VOLUME INTO THE SERVICE SYSTEM, WHICH WILL THEN TRIGGER THE LOCAL CUPA TO COME OUT.

YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON OUR BUSINESS AT 2651 MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD, JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS LOCATION.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CUPA.

YOU KNOW, THEY COME OUT REGULARLY TO INSPECT OUR CURRENT FACILITY FOR VERY SIMILAR TYPE OPERATIONS.

SO WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

FOLLOWING THAT CALOSHA GETS INVOLVED. SO NOT ONLY IN REGULATING PRESSURE VESSELS BUT THEN IN TITLE 8 REGULATIONS, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE AS IMPULSE MANAGE OUR BUSINESS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE THEIR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST AND IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE, UNDERSTANDABLY SO, AND WE GET THAT. MY MAIN CONCERN ARE THE IMPULSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING RIGHT NEXT TO THIS THING, RIGHT? AND SO WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THEM, WHICH THEN IN TURN MAKES IT SAFE FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, JUST WANTING TO, TO GO THROUGH KIND OF THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT WE WILL BE ENGAGING IN TO ENSURE THAT THESE TANKS, IF THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED ARE IMPLEMENTED AND THEN OPERATED IN A SAFE MANNER THAT IS REQUIRED OF US AS A BUSINESS. WHEN WE WERE HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE HAD RECEIVED THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION THAT WE HAD NOT DONE ENOUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE RECEIVED IT DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE AS WELL.

AND SO WE, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN ORDER TO DO TO REALLY OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORS, TO REALLY ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. THE FIRST AND FOREMOST, LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING, WE WERE OUT FRONT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR JUST TAKING QUESTIONS.

I SHARED MY PHONE NUMBER WITH SEVERAL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET, AND I TAKE TEXT MESSAGES FROM THEM, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS FROM THEM, FREQUENTLY ANSWERING ALL SORTS OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH, PRIMARILY THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON, BUT ALSO OUR PLANNED ASSOCIATION WITH THE NEW TANKS THAT ARE COMING OUR WAY.

ONE THING I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS WE DID OPEN UP AN FAQ WEBSITE.

SO OUR FAQ WEBSITE EFFECTIVELY GATHERS ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, PRIMARILY IN THE FORUM ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BUT ALSO FROM THE COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST MONTH.

SOME OF THE EXAMPLES ARE HERE. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE SMALL TYPE, BUT IT IS LINKED HERE.

YOU ALL CAN GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO US, THE TEXT OR THE EMAIL ADDRESS IS THERE. IT'S OPEN.

WE MONITOR IT EVERY DAY. WE TURN AROUND THOSE QUESTIONS VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO SCAN THE QR CODE THERE AS WELL, THAT IS OUT THERE.

SO HOW DID WE DISTRIBUTE THIS? HOW DID WE LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW? I TEXTED EVERYONE THAT I KNEW THAT I HAD THE CONTACT WITH SENT EMAILS.

WE NOW HAVE A NEXT-DOOR NAME ASSOCIATED. SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, SO WE'VE POSTED IT THERE. WE ALSO WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HANDED OUT FLIERS.

AND THAT WAY PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR MAILBOX A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF US DIRECTLY.

JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM. THIS IS THE LIST THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER OVER THE PAST MONTH.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING FLASHING BLUE LIGHTS ON SECURITY CAMERAS, THAT'S ONE THAT WAS TOLD TO US THE DAY A MONTH AGO OR A MONTH AGO IN THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, TALKING WITH ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, CATHERINE, HERE. WE ADDRESSED THAT THE NEXT DAY. CAR ALARMS SOUNDING WITHOUT ACTION.

WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT AS WELL. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A PLAN WITH OUR SECURITY TEAM, SO WHEN THOSE ALARMS GO OFF, THEY ARE ALERTING THE ENTIRE COMPANY THROUGH OUR COMPANY SLACK CHANNELS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER THAT EMPLOYEE IS GOES AND TURNS THEIR ALARM OFF.

SAFETY LIGHTS FROM THE SECURITY BOOTHS. WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE SHINING INTO THE NEIGHBORS. WE NOW TURNED THOSE DOWN SO THEY'RE LESS DIRECT INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S WINDOWS.

PARKING LOT STREET SWEEPING AFTER 5 P.M. ON A WEEKEND.

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AUDIBLE BACKUP ALARMS, AUDIBLE BACKUP ALARMS FROM TRUCKS AND PERSONNEL LIFTS, AS WELL AS AUDIBLE BACKUP ALARMS GOING ON FOR EXTENDED TIMES DURING THE DAY BEFORE 7 A.M..

ALL OF THESE AUDIBLE INCONVENIENCES AND ANNOYANCES WE TAKE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

I WOULDN'T WANT THAT IN MY BACKYARD. AND CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THEM EVERY TIME WE HEAR THEM. HOW DO WE DO THAT? OUR SECURITY TEAM KNOWS IMMEDIATELY THAT IF THEY SEE SOME OF THAT, THEY NEED TO TELL THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM. THE CONSTRUCTION TEAMS KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OPERATE BEFORE 7 A.M.

THEY CAN STAGE, THEY CAN PARK, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE NOISE.

AND SO, YES, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE HAD VIOLATIONS OF THAT.

WE HAVE HAD OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAMS, YOU KNOW, BACKING UP EARLY IN THE MORNING, BUT WE'VE CORRECTED THAT IMMEDIATELY AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED THE REDONDO BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

MY SON IS IN RBUSD, SO THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO ME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS NOW, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SUPPORT LOCAL SCHOOLS THROUGH THEIR STEM PROGRAMS, AEROSPACE, ROBOTICS AND OTHER WAYS. WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY.

THEY HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTY AND WE WE HAD A PARTICIPATION IN THE FORM OF A DONATION TO THAT EVENT, SO. I WOULD SAY IN CLOSING HERE, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED OUR EFFORTS TO OUTREACH WITH THEM, AND WE CONTINUE TO TAKE ANY CALLS, PHONE CALLS, TEXT MESSAGES.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT LONG AFTER THIS. FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN THIS FACILITY, WHICH HOPEFULLY IS A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. WE'VE HEARD THAT, WE'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK NOT ONLY FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMISSION. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ANSWERED A LOT OF THE CALLS, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT. COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

HANG ON. I GOTTA MAKE IT OPEN. THE SAFE. OH MY GOSH.

SORRY. NOT PREPARED. THE REMOTE TELEMETRY MONITORING.

IT SAYS AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATION. WHO DOES THAT NOTIFICATION GO TO? YEAH. IT GOES TO A COUPLE OF OUR PRINCIPAL TEST ENGINEERS. SO OUR SENIOR VERY EXPERIENCED ENGINEERS WHO ARE CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TANKS.

IT'S THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

THEY GET A PHONE CALL. THEY GET A TEXT MESSAGE, THEY GET AN EMAIL WHEN THOSE ARE GOING DOWN. THOSE DON'T ALARM AT THE LAST 10% OF THE TANK. THEY ALARM AS THEY ARE REDUCING IN QUANTITIES AT A RATE THAT WE SET.

SO IF YOU SEE EXCESS USAGE, EVEN IF THE TANK IS 90% FULL, THEY'RE GETTING AN ALARM.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A CASE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AT OUR FACILITY WHERE WE SAW EXCESS USAGE.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS A NORMAL OPERATION.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE USING IT FOR. IT WAS AN OKAY SITUATION, BUT OUR TEST ENGINEER GOT A CALL AND CALLED THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE USING THE NITROGEN JUST TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T A LINK THAT IT WAS OR WAS NOT A LEAK, THAT IT WAS A NORMAL OPERATION FOR THEM.

SO THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE WITH OUR CURRENT TANKS.

IT WORKS VERY EFFECTIVELY. OKAY. WHEN YOU. ARE, I'M SORRY, I'M NOT READY FOR MY NEXT QUESTION YET.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ELSE? I'LL GO.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL. SO. AS WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE PRESENTATION, SYNCING THESE THINGS INTO THE GROUND AND MAKING THEM NO MORE THAN 30FT ABOVE THE GROUND, AND ELIMINATING THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS NOT DOABLE ENGINEERING AND MATERIALS WISE FOR YOU.

WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH CHANGING THE ORIENTATION FROM VERTICAL TO HORIZONTAL? YEAH, SO IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE FIRST TWO THINGS. FIRST, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE EXTRA CONTEXT OF WHY WE CAN'T SYNC THEM EIGHT FEET BELOW.

PUTTING THEM IN A PIT CREATES AN AFFIXATION HAZARD THERE AS WELL.

SO SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T WANT TO FILL UP A PIT FULL OF NITROGEN AND HAVE THE CONCERN WITH SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTALLY WALKING DOWN IN THERE AND NOT HAVING OXYGEN THERE.

YOU CAN'T BURY TANKS UNDER THE GROUND FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T INSPECT THEM, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.

AND TWO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HIGH VOLUME PETROLEUM LINES FROM CHEVRON IN THE PARKING LOT.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR THEM. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DIG MORE THAN SIX FEET AND RISK THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE DON'T WANT TO DIG FOR ANY REASON FOR THESE TANKS.

WHY THEY CAN'T GO ON THEIR SIDE. THE BUILDING IS BIG FROM END TO END.

IT'S ABOUT 1,000FT. SO THE HEIGHT OF THE NITROGEN IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FLOW PRESSURE OF THE NITROGEN THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE NITROGEN BELOW THE GRADE OF THE BUILDING.

IT MAY NOT BE KNOWN TO THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, BUT THE GRADE OF THE BUILDING WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY WALKING IS ABOUT 4 OR 5FT ABOVE THE PARKING LOT. IF WE HAD HORIZONTAL TANKS, WE WOULD NEED PUMPS TO FLOW THAT NITROGEN AS OPPOSED TO LETTING GRAVITY FLOW THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY ITSELF.

PUMPS CREATE NOISE. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS TO THE HORIZONTAL TANKS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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SO THERE'S A GRAVITY ASPECT TO CREATING THE GAS FLOW TO WHERE YOU NEED IT.

YES, IT HELPS. ABSOLUTELY. SO IF THESE TANKS WERE NOT PUT ON THE GROUND BUT AT 30FT, WOULDN'T THAT SOLVE THE GRAVITY ISSUE? ARE YOU ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BUILD A STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT A TANK 30FT? I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD DO ANYTHING. I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION AS TO WHY.

IF GRAVITY IS THE ISSUE, DON'T PUT IT ON THE GROUND.

RAISE IT UP TO WHERE THE TOP OF THE TANK IS AT 30FT.

YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S A VALID QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE BUILT A VERY LARGE STEEL STRUCTURE ASSOCIATED AND RAISE THE TANKS ABOVE THE GROUND.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T LOOK INTO, BUT THE ENGINEERING INVOLVED WITH THAT WOULD BE PRETTY EXTENSIVE.

THE AMOUNT OF FLUIDS THAT ARE IN THERE AND THE STRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT IT, 30FT IN THE AIR WOULD BE FAR IN EXCESS OF A FOOTPRINT THAT WE WOULD BE USING IN THIS CASE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? GO AHEAD. OKAY. HOW ARE EMERGENCY ALARMS, PROCEDURES AND PRECAUTIONS SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORS? THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT YOU. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A VARIANCE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, EMERGENCY PROCEDURES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S BEEN NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THE VARIANCE. SO THEY VOLUNTEERED A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO REVIEW THEIR SAFETY PROCEDURES.

I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THAT THERE. WELL, I'M SORRY, VARIANCE CRITERIA WHERE SITE CONSTRAINTS.

THIS IS A SITE CONSTRAINT. THE SAFETY. SO THAT'S PART OF THIS VARIANCE.

NOT ACCORDING TO WHAT I, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY STAFF AND BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THAT'S WHAT STAFF JUST TOLD US. THEY GAVE US THE SITE CONSTRAINT VARIANCE CRITERIA.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS SAFETY. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.

THAT'S WHAT STAFF TOLD US. MR. SCULLY, DO YOU HAVE A.

YEAH. WELL, IT'S ON THAT SLIDE. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, IF WE COULD PULL UP, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.

THE ACTUAL CRITERIA WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND SEEING THE SAFETY ELEMENT INTRODUCED ON THAT SLIDE, BUT IT WE'D BE HAPPY TO PULL UP THOSE CODE PROVISIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXPLICITLY OR EVEN IN INDIRECTLY HAVE A SAFETY COMPONENT TO IT. THE, IT'S KIND OF INDIRECT.

WHAT I COULD SAY IS THEY AS, AS THE APPLICANT HAS ATTESTED TO, THESE ARE DESIGNED THE WAY THEY ARE TO BE VERTICAL. AND THAT DESIGN CREATES MORE SAFETY.

SO THAT DESIGN THEN YIELDS THE NEED FOR THE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT THE ZONING ALLOWS.

SO, IT'S SAFETY IS RELEVANT IN THE SENSE THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THE VARIANCE GIVING THE VARIANCE ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE SAFE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I DON'T BUY IT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE PUTTING A LARGER TANK THERE.

BIGGER THERE'S MORE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING WE CAN'T ASK ABOUT OR TALK ABOUT SAFETY HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE THAT IS TO ME, AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE FROM LAST MEETING TO ME WHAT IT IS TO BE A COMMISSIONER, PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN REDONDO BEACH IS MAINTAINED.

AND I HAVE COMMENTS THAT I'M GOING TO RESERVE UNTIL AFTER THE QUESTIONS.

THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONER YOUNG SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN ASKING A VERY GOOD QUESTION ABOUT SAFETY. WELL, I WILL SAY, IF I MAY, CHAIR, THAT SAFETY IS NOT A LAND USE ISSUE.

THAT'S ITEM IDENTIFIED IN THE FINDINGS REQUIRED TO ISSUE THE VARIANCE.

IT'S A RELEVANT ISSUE BECAUSE IT GOES INTO THE DESIGN OF OF THESE TANKS, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEIGHS IN ON IN THE DELIBERATION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE OR DENY THE VARIANCE.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT. RESPECTFULLY. UNDERSTOOD.

WE COULD, IF THEY HAD IT AVAILABLE, SO. IS THE CODE AVAILABLE? IT IS. IT MIGHT GIVE US A MINUTE TO. ACCESS YOUR QUESTION.

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YEAH, THAT'S FINE. IT'S AVAILABLE. WE CAN PULL IT UP IF THE COMPANY WANTS TO.

YEAH, SO I MEAN IF HERE IT IS. HERE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO ZOOM IN ON THAT, DANIEL? YEAH. THE CORNER YOU CAN. MAYBE GET RID OF THAT THING TO THE LEFT.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THERE. SO THE VARIANCE CRITERIA.

SURROUNDINGS, SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, SURROUNDINGS.

I SURE SEE IT. STRICT APPLICATION OF ZONING PROVISIONS.

DRIVE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT. THE SURROUNDINGS.

SO IF YOU'RE NEXT TO A HOME, IF YOU'RE NEXT TO A BUSY STREET, THAT'S THE SURROUNDINGS.

WELL, WHAT IT REFERS TO IS THE SURROUNDING ZONING AND THE THAT HAVING.

A MAJOR EAST WEST STREET. THAT'S THE SURROUNDING.

PROPERTY. YES. YES, IT. THAT IS, SURROUNDINGS ARE THE STREETS.

BUT IT REALLY, IT'S A ZONING AND LAND USE COMPARISON OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE SAME ZONING. AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE AND LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.

AND THIS PROPERTY NEXT DOOR OR ADJACENT TO HAS THE SAME ZONING OR SIMILAR ZONING AND, AND IT WITH YOUR PROPERTY BASED ON ITS SIZE OR TOPOGRAPHY OR SHAPE OR SURROUNDING IS NOT ABLE TO EXERCISE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS ABLE TO EXERCISE.

ON THIS, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU MY ARGUMENT HERE AGAINST THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. AND BY THE WAY, I REALLY RESPECT WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN US TONIGHT.

I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE LAST WEEK.

I JUST HAVE A FEW OTHER CONCERNS THAT I WANT TO EXPRESS.

WE WERE TOLD LAST MONTH THAT THERE ARE MANY SUCH TANKS AT TRW, OTHER MANUFACTURING CONCERNS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE NEW IMPULSE SPACE FACILITY.

AND YOU TOLD US TONIGHT, ONE'S 150FT AWAY, ANOTHER 300FT AWAY.

I DROVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE NO HIGH-PRESSURE TANKS ADJACENT TO MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND MARINE BOULEVARD.

THERE ARE A LOT IN MANY PLACES, BUT ALL ARE IN SOLE INDUSTRIAL ZONES, FAR FROM ANY RESIDENCES.

YEAH, 150FT AWAY, BUT ADD THAT TO 220FT, WE'RE NOW OVER THREE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 350FT AWAY.

THERE ARE NOT NEAR ANY EAST WEST MAJOR CORRIDORS.

SO, BASICALLY CITY PLANNERS. WHY IS THAT? CITY PLANNERS HAVE DECIDED THAT THAT WAS NOT A GREAT PLACE TO PUT THOSE KINDS OF STRUCTURES, THAT EVERYONE WHO BUILT THOSE SAY, LET'S PUT THEM ALL WHERE THEY'RE CONCENTRATED IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS THERE ON REDONDO BEACH BOULEVARD, WHICH IS IF ANYONE GOES TO COSTCO, YOU'LL OCCASIONALLY GO THROUGH THERE, BUT NOT MANY PEOPLE DO.

AND IT'S ONLY INDUSTRIAL AREA. SO MOST OF THOSE ARE NOT 38FT TALL.

SOME ARE. ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE ON. THOSE ARE ON ROADS THAT ARE RARELY TRAVELED.

AND ONCE WE SET A PRECEDENT THAT THIS 38FT CAN BE NEXT TO HOUSES WITHIN 220FT, ONCE THEY ARE ABLE TO BE NEXT TO A BUSY STREET, THAT IS THE SLIPPERY SLOPE I WORRY ABOUT HERE.

AND THAT'S WHY THIS TO ME IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER HERE.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEEN THESE BUILT BEHIND.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A FIRE LANE. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO SEE IF THERE'S ALTERNATIVES TO BUILD THERE.

GET SPACE FROM THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GAS OR WHOEVER OWNS THAT AND BUILD THEM FARTHER AWAY.

I SAID, I JUST THINK THIS IS A SCARY PRECEDENT TO SET THAT.

WHY NOT 50FT ONES? WHY NOT PUT THEM IN SOUTH REDONDO? WHY NOT PUT THEM NEXT DOOR TO THE DAYCARE CENTER? I MEAN, IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS ONE AND THE CITY SAYS, THIS IS KOSHER.

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COMMISSIONER LIGHT CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? I KNOW OF TWO TANKS ON MARINE AND I KNOW OF ONE TANK ON MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD.

THERE'S ONE ON AVIATION THAT'S HORIZONTAL. IT'S ABOUT 15FT.

IT'S ALSO SURROUNDED. BUT NO, I DIDN'T SEE ANY.

I DROVE UP AND DOWN. DO YOU HAVE AN ADDRESS? YEAH.

I CAN SHOW YOU A MAP. OKAY. AND HOW TALL IS IT? AND HOW CLOSE IS IT TO BUILDINGS? ONE IS ABOUT 120FT AWAY.

THAT'S THE ONE ON AVIATION. IT IS BORDERING MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD, THOUGH, OR RATHER, IT'S MANHATTAN BEACH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT BORDERS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON AVIATION THAT'S HORIZONTAL? IT'S THE ONE ON AVIATION THAT'S HORIZONTAL.

YEAH. NO, THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED. THAT ONE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ANYWHERE CLOSE TO A MAJOR STREET.

IT IS SMALLER, MOST 15FT, COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY A FENCE.

THAT'S THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE HERE, WHICH WE'LL GET TO AT SOME POINT.

I SUPPOSE THAT THERE IS NO PROTECTIVE FENCES AROUND YOUR RENDITION.

THERE WILL BE. OKAY. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S.

I HAVE OTHER CONCERNS HERE. I MIGHT AS WELL GET THEM ALL OUT.

I DROVE UP AND SPOKE WITH THE SECURITY PEOPLE, AND I WAS PLEASED THAT THEY DIDN'T LET ME IN JUST BECAUSE I SHOWED THEM MY CARD TO DRIVE AROUND. I THINK I COULD HAVE TALKED HIM INTO IT, BUT NO, THEY WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL.

YOU HAVE GOOD SECURITY THERE, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT YOUR PROTECTION AGAINST BAD ACTORS RIGHT NOW IS SOME PLASTIC CONES AND THERE'S AN EXIT ONLY THING.

ANYONE WITH A TRUCK THAT WANTED TO DO DAMAGE COULD GET THROUGH THERE VERY EASILY.

I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SYSTEM. IF THIS DOES HAPPEN THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PREVENT PEOPLE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THE THINGS OF BARS THAT COME OUT AND EVERY CAR THAT IS APPROVED TO COME IN, IT GOES DOWN. SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE SHOULD BE.

DOES THAT RELATE TO THE VARIANCE, THE ADDITIONAL 8-FEET THAT WE'RE PROGRESSING HERE TONIGHT? PARDON. DOES THAT. YEAH. AGAIN SAFE. OKAY. YOU ASK THAT QUESTION.

OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER I WILL ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO PUT FENCES AND GUARD SHACKS AND MORE ROBUST.

ONE OF THE PLANS WE PLAN TO DO AS WELL IS PUT A LARGE WALL THERE THAT WILL HELP WITH THE NOISE MITIGATION BUT WILL CERTAINLY HELP WITH OUR SECURITY.

WE DO HAVE OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF SECURITY HERE, STEVE OLSEN.

HE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY DIRECT SECURITY RELATED QUESTIONS AFTER THE MEETING.

YEAH. OKAY. BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, HOW THIS RELATES TO THE VARIANCE.

ALL RIGHT. 38-FOOT TANK. I'M A NEUROPSYCHOLOGIST, SO I WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD ASPHYXIATION.

AND WE THINK THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IS OF DYING OF ASPHYXIATION, WHICH IS TERRIBLE.

ARGON IS HEAVIER THAN AIR. NITROGEN IS SLIGHTLY LIGHTER.

SO IT GOES UP, TANKS BLOW UP, GOES UP IN THE AIR.

IT'S LESS OF A PROBLEM. ARGON. THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE ARGON DETECTORS IN BASEMENTS.

IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS GAS. YOU DON'T SMELL IT.

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT'S THERE. YOU WOULD FALL ASLEEP AND YOU WOULD GO INTO A COMA.

AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOU DIE, BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T AND SAY YOU'RE EIGHT MINUTES INTO THIS, YOU BURN UP YOUR HIPPOCAMPUS AND YOU WILL NEVER LEARN ANOTHER THING IN YOUR LIFE.

SO THERE IS A MAJOR DANGER WITH THESE TANKS. AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT TO SAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE BUILT THERE EVER.

I HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO OF ONE OF OUR. CAN I COMMENT ON THE VIDEO.

OF A 20-FOOT TANK THAT BLEW UP A NITROGEN TANK? THEY CERTAINLY CAN. THERE'S CATASTROPHIC THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN.

THERE'S EARTHQUAKES HERE. YOU GOT GAS LINES UNDERNEATH IT AND YOU GOT THESE TANKS ON TOP.

I CAN SEE A PROBLEM THERE WITH AN EARTHQUAKE CAUSING PROBLEMS. BAD ACTOR, TERRORISTS, ETC.. WE SHOULD BE PREPARING FOR THE LOW INCIDENT, MAJOR CATASTROPHE.

OKAY. THEY'RE REALLY UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN. DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T HAPPEN.

AND IT DOES RELATE TO THE SIZE VARIANCE, BECAUSE 38FT IS A MORE DANGEROUS TANK THAT HOLDS MORE THAN A 30-FOOT TANK.

OKAY, SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? NOT SEEING ANY. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT SOME VIDEO THAT.

OH, YEAH, HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

YOU MENTIONED A VIDEO. YEAH, THERE'S A VIDEO THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED ABOUT A TANK THAT, THAT BLEW UP A 20-FOOT TANK.

THAT TANK WAS IN AUSTRALIA. IT WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

TANKS IN AUSTRALIA ARE DESIGNED AND REGULATED VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN TANKS IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND HOW THAT TANK BLEW UP IS STILL A LITTLE MURKY AS FAR AS THE ROOT CAUSE.

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THE SUPER HIGH TEMPERATURES IN AUSTRALIA, COMBINED WITH THREE FAILURE MODES ASSOCIATED WITH THE VENTING OF THAT TANK ITSELF.

WE DON'T DESIGN OUR TANKS LIKE THAT. IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST US.

THIS IS JUST HOW THE UNITED STATES AND THE REGULATORY AGENCIES ARE REGULATING HOW THESE TANKS ARE BUILT.

SO WE DON'T THINK THAT A SIMILAR INSTANCE LIKE THAT COULD EVEN BE POSSIBLE WITH THESE TYPES OF TANKS.

VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE ELSE? MR. BOSWELL. ON THE ON THAT TOPIC, ARE YOU AWARE OF THESE TANKS EVER FAILING ANYWHERE? GOOD QUESTION. SO I LOOKED THAT UP AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND ONLY TWO CASES IN THE LAST 2 IN 20 IN THE LAST 20 YEARS WHERE A TANK FAILED TO A MAGNITUDE THAT IT HAD TO CAUSE ANY SORT OF DISRUPTION IN BUSINESS. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS NITROGEN.

NITROGEN IS IN THE AIR WE BREATHE. ARGON IS ALSO IN THE AIR WE BREATHE.

YES, THEY CAN BE DANGEROUS. AND WE CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

AND WE WE TAKE A LOT OF SAFETY PRECAUTIONS TO KEEP NOT ONLY OUR EMPLOYEES SAFE, BUT ALSO THE NEIGHBORS SAFE.

WE HAVE OXYGEN MONITORS AROUND THE TANKS AND INSIDE THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE EVER GET ANY SORT OF LEAKAGE, THAT WOULD DISPLACE OXYGEN TO A POINT WHERE IT COULD CAUSE SOME SORT OF DAMAGE TO SOMEONE'S PERSONAL LIFE, WE KNOW ABOUT IT. THOSE ALARMS GO OFF AND THE PLACE IS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE EVACUATE THE PEOPLE FROM THAT AREA THAT HAS THAT THAT ISSUE.

AGAIN, SAFETY IS ABSOLUTELY NUMBER ONE FOR US.

WE HAVE A VERY STRONG SAFETY RECORD. CERTAINLY CALOSHA CAN TELL YOU THAT NOT, DON'T TAKE IT FROM US LIKE OUR PORTABLES ARE EXTREMELY LOW.

AND WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE ENTIRE COMPANY.

I TALK ABOUT IT WITH MY TEAMS CONSTANTLY. I KNOW MIKE DOES AS WELL.

AT THE TOP OF THE COMPANY OUR CEO TALKS ABOUT IT EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE AN ALL HANDS.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE THAT'S OUR MANTRA. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S CONCERNING YOU FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND THAT'S WHY I TAKE THE TEXT MESSAGES AND THE PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

IT'S NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY AT IMPULSESPACE.COM, IT IS MY PERSONAL, PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER.

AND I RESPOND. WE MAKE THE CHANGES THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO THAT'S ALL VERY NICE TO HEAR. HOWEVER, WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEHIND THESE TWO INSTANCES THAT YOU STARTED OFF EXPLAINING, YOU NEVER REALLY FINISHED WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT CAUSED IT AND WHAT WERE THE RAMIFICATIONS AND WHAT WAS THE SOLUTION TO SOLVE? I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU. WE'RE NOT DOING A FAULT ANALYSIS FOR SAFETY THINGS.

I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME ISSUES WITH IT, BUT GOING THROUGH A HISTORICAL REFERENCE OF REPAIRS AND OR THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED DECADES AGO, OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WAS THE LAST FEW YEARS, IS REALLY NOT RELEVANT.

CONCERN OF THAT PART. IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO, IT'S LIGHT BROUGHT UP SOME VERY GOOD POINTS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORICAL SAFETY DATA. I MEAN, THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO OUR VARIANCE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. I DISAGREE. YOU'RE ENTITLED TO THAT, BUT WE WANT YOU.

YOU CAN STILL ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU LIKE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT OF THOSE INSTANCES. THE FAILURE MODES ARE WELL PUBLICIZED.

I PAUSED THEM, THOUGH. DOUG. DOUG. I JUST SAID FOR YOU TO PLEASE STOP.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I WAS NOT PART OF THOSE.

I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO STOP THE MEETING RIGHT NOW. DOUG, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. YOU CAN'T KEEP ON ASKING QUESTIONS AFTER WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS AGAIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGAIN A MOTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MOTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. DOCTOR ZAREMSKI.

HI, I'M LORI ZAREMSKI. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE ON GIBSON PLACE.

SO CLEARLY THE TANKS CAN'T EXPLODE. IT'S NOT, BE, GO ON ABOUT THAT.

MY POINT TONIGHT WOULD BE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE, AND THEN WHATEVER GOES IN THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD 38 FOOT TANKS THAT CAN BE VIEWED FROM THE FRONT PORCH OF THE HOMES ACROSS THE STREET CLEARLY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS MAKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INTO A HUGE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WHICH IS HORRIBLE, LOOKS AWFUL, RUINS OUR PROPERTY VALUE, AND IT'S NOT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO COME IN AND RUIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO DO WANT TO COMMENT THAT THERE WAS A MENTION OF THAT

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BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, DID YOU TAKE SOME KIND OF POLL ASKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD PREFER UNSIGHTLY HUGE TANKS OR WHETHER THEY WOULD PREFER MORE REFILLS? SO YOU'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THERE, WHICH I WOULD QUESTION.

AND THEN ALSO, HOW WAS THAT PLACE CHOSEN? WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WHOLE BIG BLOCK OVER THERE WHERE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE SUCH AN EYESORE? AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE ANSWERS ABOUT THIS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE.

WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF IT? DO THESE FIT WITH THE DEFINITION? PROBABLY THE REASON I ACTUALLY LOOKED IT UP AND IT SAID THAT THE MAIN COMPONENT IS HAVING THINGS TOO TALL.

SO DON'T GIVE THEM THE VARIANCE AND THEN I ALSO WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE FLIERS IN MAILBOXES. I MEAN, IF THEY ACTUALLY DID COME PUT FLIERS IN MAILBOXES, WHICH I CERTAINLY DIDN'T GET ONE, AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT THINGS IN PEOPLE'S MAILBOXES UNLESS YOU'RE THE POST OFFICE, SO. AND THEN ALSO, I WAS CURIOUS, MR. SCULLY, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT CUSTOM TANKS WOULD BE MORE RISKY, BUT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY, BUT YOU DID MAKE THAT COMMENT, AND I WAS WONDERING WHERE YOU GET THE DATA UPON WHICH YOU BASE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT CUSTOM TAKES BEING MORE RISKY.

AND THEN I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE ALSO SAID THAT MORE HEIGHT IS SAFER.

AND I WAS CURIOUS WHERE THE DATA IS TO. TIME.

MOTION TO EXTEND. WE DON'T DO MOTION TO EXTENDS ANYMORE.

OKAY, WELL, I THINK I'VE GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS. I REALLY URGE YOU NOT TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE THE VARIANCE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SET UP INDUSTRIAL ZONES ALL OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FOR JANIE VILLA SISON OR SUSAN.

HI. MY NAME IS JANINE VILLA SISON. I'M A RESIDENT ON MCBAIN AVENUE, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS VARIANCE.

I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION WITH THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO IMPULSE SPACE ACROSS MULTIPLE AGENCIES BY CHOOSING BUSINESS INTERESTS OVER THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO APPROVE THIS VARIANCE WITH THE LEVEL OF CARELESSNESS AND LACK OF DETAILS AND CHERRY PICKED DATA PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS. YOU'RE STILL PROVIDING THE PUBLIC WITH BOILERPLATE SAFETY REPORTS WITH WRONG PROPERTY ADDRESSES, LACKING CONTACTS FOR SEVERAL EMERGENCY AGENCIES.

THE SITE PLANS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DETAILS, AND THE STAFF REPORT SUPPORTS THE VARIANCE BASED ON THE PROPERTY LINE BEING 350FT FROM NORTHROP GRUMMAN.

WHY IS THE PROPERTY LINE ADDRESS RELEVANT? THE PROPOSED TANK SITE IS CLOSER TO 1,200FT FROM NORTHROP GRUMMAN.

THAT'S ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD FURTHER AWAY FROM THE I-1 ZONING.

OH, AND THE PROPERTY LINE ADDRESS YOU ARE REFERRING TO HAS OVER $78,000 IN PERMITS ISSUED TO AN INCORRECT ADDRESS THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IN REDONDO BEACH.

IT'S AN ADDRESS IN MANHATTAN BEACH OFF OF ROSECRANS.

I HEARD THE OTHER AT THE LAST MEETING. I TRUST THE STAFF.

I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN THE PUBLIC SEES MISTAKES LIKE THIS, IT DOES NOT DO MUCH TO INSTILL PUBLIC TRUST.

OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, IMPULSE HAS SHOWED A PATTERN THAT THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IMPULSE SPACE SINCE 2024 ABOUT ISSUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'VE BEEN ASKED. WE'VE BEEN ASKING THEM FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR OVER 18 MONTHS.

NEIGHBORS HAVE PERSONALLY VOLUNTEERED TO ACT AS COMMUNITY LIAISONS TO HELP FOSTER SOME SENSE OF COOPERATION.

WE'VE GOTTEN CLOSE TO NOTHING IN RETURN. I LIVE ON MCBAIN.

PEOPLE ON 159TH AND MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD HAVE RECEIVED NONE OF THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY.

WE MET WITH ADRIAN FRIAS FROM PLANNING IN APRIL OF 2025 ABOUT THE IMPACT FROM IMPULSE PARKING, AND HIS RESPONSE WAS, WELL, I'M SORRY, NOTHING WE CAN DO, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

AND NOW HERE WE ARE 17 MONTHS LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

AND INSTEAD OF PLANNING, TELLING IMPULSE, SORRY, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO PUSH THROUGH THIS VARIANCE. ARE WE GOING TO GIVE ALL THE RESIDENTS ON DOW AND SEBALD A VARIANCE TO BUILD HIGHER PROPERTY WALLS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO STARE AT THE TANKS AND HEAR THE NOISE?

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THERE ARE RULES. THEY HAVE OTHER SOLUTIONS. OUR EXPERIENCE SO FAR IS THAT IF YOU GIVE THIS COMPANY AN INCH, THEY WILL TAKE A MILE. PLEASE MAKE THIS RIGHT AND HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS EVERYONE ELSE.

WE NEED TO FIND A PLACE WHERE THE GROWTH OF IMPULSE DOESN'T COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MINH NGUYEN.

HELLO, I'M MINH NGUYEN, I LIVE, I'M THE HOMEOWNER OF THE HOUSE, PROBABLY CLOSEST TO THE TANKS.

FIRST OFF, I RECEIVED NO ADEQUATE NOTICE. NOTHING ABOUT THIS? NO COMMUNITY MEETING. THE FLIER WAS DROPPED OFF SIX DAYS AGO IN THE MAILBOX.

WHEN I BUILT PULLED PERMITS FOR MY HOUSE, I HAD TO NOTIFY ALL MY NEIGHBORS VIA CERTIFIED MAIL TO KNOW OF MY CONSTRUCTION.

I RECEIVED NO NOTICE OF THIS. THE CURRENT RENDERING I SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE HEIGHT VARIANCE DOES NOT SHOW THE ELECTRICAL TOWER.

FOR SOME REASON IT'S PHOTOSHOPPED OUT OF THERE.

MY QUESTION IS, IF WE GRANT THIS HIGHER VARIANCE, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS FALLS OVER AND HITS THAT ELECTRIC TOWER AND KNOCKS OUT POWER FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA? THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED. I TOOK A PICTURE.

IF YOU WANT TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MOTION, YOU CAN HAVE THIS PICTURE. I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE WHERE THE PROPOSED LOCATION CLOSE TO THE ELECTRICAL TOWER IS.

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. SAME THING WITH THE STAFF REPORT ALSO SAYS THEY TALK ABOUT COMPS THAT HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT, BUT THOSE ARE NOT COMPARABLE IN MY OPINION.

NOISE. WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THIS. WHEN I PULLED MY PERMIT FOR A MINI SPLIT, I HAD TO GET A DECIBEL TEST TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T TOO LOUD FOR MY NEIGHBORS.

KEEP IN MIND MY MINI SPLIT IS SMALL AND ONLY COVER 250FT², WHICH IS MY LIVING ROOM, SO.

BUT THERE'S NO MENTION OF ANY TESTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT NOISY OR WHAT NOISE EFFECT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH THESE INCREASED TANKS.

ALSO, DELIVERY TIMES NEED TO BE DEFINED. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS? VIBRATION IS ANOTHER THING. THERE'S NOTHING TALKING ABOUT VIBRATION.

CAT WATER FIVE SIX YEARS AGO DID CONSTRUCTION AT BEACH BOULEVARD, IT SHOOK MY HOUSE.

AFTER IT STILL SHOOK MY HOUSE. SO, I WOULD ASK FOR THESE INCREASED TANKS.

THESE ARE MUCH LARGER TANKS THAT THERE MAY BE A VIBRATION STUDY DONE TO ENSURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T DISRUPTED.

SAME THING SEE IF THERE IS NO CAR BARRIERS IN THE RENDERINGS.

I LIVE IN MANHATTAN BEACH, OFF BEACH BOULEVARD FOR 14 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN ACCIDENTS ALL THE TIME. THAT'S A HIGHWAY.

CARS FLY OFF. I'VE SEEN THOSE TRAFFIC LIGHT POLES KNOCKED OVER.

THAT'S HOW FAST PEOPLE ARE GOING. SO IT'S NOT A MATTER IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT. AND IN THIS SAFETY.

SAME THING NO TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. I DIDN'T SEE IN THE REPORT WITH THESE INCREASED TANKS HOW MUCH MORE DELIVERIES, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING DOWN ON TIME.

SO ONE THING I FEEL IS THERE ANYTHING TO SAY THEY CAN CHANGE THE FUEL LATER ON.

THEY'RE PUTTING WHATEVER THEY'RE IN NOW, BUT THEY MAY CHANGE IT.

BUT OVERALL, I RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE WITH THESE LARGER TANKS.

IT'S OUT OF FEAR FOR MY LIFE. AND I WAS HERE AND MY QUALITY OF LIFE, NOT MUCH MORE, BUT I'M OUT OF TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM ROXANNE.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO HEAR OUR CONCERNS.

I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS ROXANNE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

MY HOME IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT.

I CAN AND WILL NOW FOREVER SEE FROM MY KITCHEN WINDOW, MY BACK WINDOWS, AND MY BACKYARD THESE PROPOSED 4, PROBABLY WHEN THEY GET DONE WITH IT 40-FOOT TANKS FILLED WITH VARIOUS GASES MAKING UNDISCLOSED NOISES, NUISANCES, AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISASTER. THERE IS HUMAN ERROR.

THINGS CAN HAPPEN. I'M NOT AGAINST IMPULSE SPACE.

I KIND OF WELCOME THEM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HOWEVER, I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROCESS OF HOW THIS PROJECT IS UNFOLDING.

I AM ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY TO BE MORE DILIGENT IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF IMPULSE AND THE NEEDS OF THE FAMILIES ACROSS THE STREET.

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AFTER AN EMBARRASSING AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT, RESIDENTS HAVE MADE TO GET SOME TYPE OF DETAILED INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT.

THE LACK OF ANSWERS FROM THE CITY IS CONFUSING.

WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THEM FOR A YEAR. THE FAILURE OF THE CITY TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING, AND THE SHOWING OF SUCH LITTLE REGARD TO OUR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I'M PRETTY SURE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY STARING AT 4 40-FOOT TANKS, 200FT FROM YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR YARD, WITH ALL THE UNKNOWNS THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT DON'T IDENTIFY THE PERTINENT SAFETY CONCERNS. I HAVE SEEN MANY OF YOU ON THIS DAIS FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO ENSURE WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO THIS COMMUNITY THAT THE RESIDENTS, THE BEAUTY OF OUR CITY, THE SUCCESS OF OUR CITY AND OUR QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONCERNS ARE RESPECTED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS TO HAPPEN IN THIS MANNER.

WITH THE UTMOST DETAIL OF THOUGHT TO OUR SAFETY AND THE IMPACT THIS BRINGS TO NORTH REDONDO BEACH.

I DON'T LIKE THE CITY CLAIMING THE BUSINESS IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT BECAUSE OF DECADES OLD ZONING UNDER THE GUISE OF MANUFACTURING.

WHAT IS BEING MANUFACTURED AND HOW TODAY SHOULD MATTER.

IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD. THERE NEEDS TO BE RESPECT AND ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN DECISIONS LIKE THIS WILL HEAVILY IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE CITY NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB IN PROTECTING ITS RESIDENTS AND A BETTER JOB TO ENSURE IMPULSE SPACE IS OPERATING IN THE UTMOST OF SAFEST POSSIBILITIES.

BASED ON THE WAY THIS IS UNFOLDING, I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF IDIOTIC DECISION MAKING.

I THINK WE CAN COME TO A SOLUTION. I THINK WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER.

TIME. THIS CANNOT JUST HASTILY BE PUSHED THROUGH AND THEN DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES LATER.

I'M SORRY FOR. CONTINUING TO FURTHER MAKE AN EFFORT.

EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME IS UP. I HAVE TO STOP YOU.

I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A THREE-MINUTE RULE. AND WE GAVE YOU A LITTLE MORE TIME. I'M FINISHED. I CAN'T GO ANYMORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A CARD HERE, BUT I CANNOT. THERE'S NO NAME WRITTEN DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE COULD READ IT BETTER THAN I CAN.

THERE'S A SIGNATURE ON THE CARD, BUT NO NAME. OH, OKAY.

NO WAY OF DETERMINING. YOUR SIGNATURE IS WORSE THAN MINE.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS POSSIBLE. NO. PLEASE, PLEASE COME DOWN AND SAY YOUR NAME.

OF COURSE. FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS KATERI WOOD, AND I RESIDE ON JOHNSTON AVENUE IN REDONDO BEACH, WHICH IS DISTRICT FIVE. OKAY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IMPULSE ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY IN MARCH OF 2023 THAT THEY WOULD BE RELOCATING TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN MANHATTAN BEACH BOULEVARD AND REDONDO BEACH. AT THAT TIME, AND AS OF TODAY, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AS AT IC-1 WHICH, ACCORDING TO CITY ZONING, IS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

IN STATING THIS, AS IC-1 ZONE UNDER THE REDONDO BEACH CITY CODE ORDINANCES, TITLE 10 PLANNING AND ZONING.

CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 2, DIVISION 8, INDUSTRIAL ZONE, SECTION 10-2000 OUTLINES THE GENERAL PURPOSES OF HOW THE PROPERTY SHALL BE USED. IT SAYS, AND I DID SUBMIT THIS ONLINE ALSO ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS SAYS PROVIDES A SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND PROTECT THEM FROM THE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF INHARMONIOUS USES.

E, ENSURE THAT THE APPEARANCE AND THE EFFECTS OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA IN WHICH THEY ARE ZONED.

AND THEN F, MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

THESE ARE ACCORDING TO THE CITY WHAT IC-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY SHOULD BE USED FOR.

I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE VARIANCE IS ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT I'VE JUST POINTED OUT LEADS AND MAYBE BEGS QUESTIONING ON WHETHER.

A VARIANCE SHOULD EVEN BE GRANTED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE.

AND I FEEL THAT UNTIL THESE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED, THAT I DEFINITELY OPPOSE ANY TYPE OF PIPE VARIANTS.

I ALSO WANT TO STATE I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 33 YEARS.

I BOUGHT IT IN A NICE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

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I FEEL LIKE THIS MAYBE IS NOT A SAFE WAY TO USE THIS PROPERTY.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AS FAR AS ANY COMMUNICATION, I NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER.

I NEVER RECEIVED A KNOCK AT MY DOOR. I WAS NOT MADE AWARE THAT THIS WAS EVEN HAPPENING UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO.

AND I'M HIGHLY DISTURBED THAT OUR NEW NEIGHBORS ARE PUTTING MY LIFE AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S LIFE IN JEOPARDY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK OR ANY SPEAKER CARDS? I MEAN, ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE ONE PERSON ONLINE, MARK NELSON.

VERY GOOD. MR. NELSON, GO AHEAD. YOU COMMISSION CHAIR CRABB.

SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PRIOR HEARING THAT YOU CONTINUED THIS FROM WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD THAT DISCLOSED BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE CHOSEN TO DISCUSS SAFETY AS THE NON, AS A NON-AGENDA ITEM INSTEAD OF BEING CUT OFF HERE.

SO I'M FORMALLY REQUESTING THAT THIS HEARING BE CONTINUED SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT NEXT MEETING.

THE SURROUNDING R-1 HOMES WILL HAVE A TAKING IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO EXCEED ITS 30-FOOT ZONING HEIGHT.

I REALIZED THAT STAFF LIKES THE FACT THAT THAT THERE'S 100-FOOT TANKS AROUND OR WHATEVER'S 100-FOOT.

BUT THAT SAID, THERE'S A BALANCE AND THE BALANCE IS WITH THE R-1.

THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT ANY OTHER IC ZONE HAS BEEN EITHER DENIED OR GRANTED THE SAME PRIVILEGE.

SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT IS STILL A PRIVILEGE UNTIL THAT'S DEMONSTRATED.

I HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH L&G TANKS I KNOW A HORIZONTAL TANK FROM A VERTICAL TANK.

THEY'RE NOT THE SAME TANK EITHER. I REVIEWED THE AUSTRALIAN STANDARDS.

THEY'RE REALLY NOT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

IF THERE'S A FAILURE, THERE IS AN EXPLOSION, NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

IT'S GOING TO BOIL OFF. AND IF IT CAN'T CLEAR THE BOIL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

38-FOOT TANKS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE KINETIC ENERGY THAN 20-FOOT TANKS.

SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY TALLER AND MORE VISUALLY A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY ALSO FLY FURTHER.

TWO LETTERS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY L.A. COUNTY FIRE TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST ONE BASICALLY SAID THAT THEY WILL NOT REVIEW THE SAFETY FROM ASPHYXIATION HAZARDS OFFSITE.

THEY WILL ONLY DO THEIR OWN FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S AN ASPHYXIATION HAZARD, ESPECIALLY FROM ARGON. THE SECOND LETTER WAS TWO DAYS AGO, MAYBE THREE IN L.A.

COUNTY FIRE FELT COMPELLED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, REDONDO BEACH FIRE SHOULD HAVE DONE ALL THIS.

NOW, THE SOON TO BE CHIEF WAS IN THE ROOM LAST MONTH, AND IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY WERE POINTING HARD AT LA COUNTY AS DOING THE WORK FOR HAZARD. SO I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT REDONDO BEACH FIRE FAILED TO USE ICC CHAPTER 55 CRYOGENIC FLUIDS FOR TANKS, WHICH IS 5504.3.1.1.5, WHICH REQUIRES DRAINAGE AROUND THOSE OUTSIDE TANKS. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE. I THINK IMPULSE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT THEY DON'T EVEN OWN THE TANKS.

SO THEY'RE PROBABLY LINDY'S TANKS OR SOMEONE ELSE.

TIME. I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME IS UP, MARK, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ONLINE JAMAL? WE HAVE NO MORE SPEAKERS ONLINE.

OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO DELIBERATION TIME. OR SHOULD I JUST CALL FOR A VOTE AT THIS POINT? OKAY. THEY CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER.

LIGHT. OH. I'M SORRY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YEAH.

ARE YOU GOING TO READ IT? DO YOU WANT ME TO? I'VE BEEN ON ZOOM CALLS ALL DAY TODAY, SO THAT'S CRAZY.

MOTION RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH APPROVING AN EXEMPTION DECLARATION AND VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE 30-FOOT MAXIMUM

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MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-09-PCR-1111 OR 11.

OKAY SO IT'S A MOTION. I GET A SECOND FOR THAT.

SECOND. VERY GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, I KNOW WE GOT, GOTTA BE GOOD ROLL CALL, SORRY.

SO, JAMAL, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE? AND SINCE THIS COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE LAST MEETING.

WE START WITH YOU. OH, THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M A YES.

COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE? YES. OR IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION ON THAT? I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUNNY, THOUGH. YES.

COMMISSIONER LUCE? YES. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? NO.

COMMISSIONER YOUNG? NO. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? NO. COMMISSIONER LIGHT? NO. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG? YES. SO THE MOTION IS FAILED. STAFF DOES HAVE, WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT FOR A DECISION ON THIS APPLICATION, OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE YOU'VE JUST MADE ONE.

BUT FOR PURPOSES OF ADVANCING THIS IN THE EVENT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO APPEAL THIS DECISION.

WE HAVE A RESOLUTION OF DENIAL THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO ACT ON FORMALLY DENYING THE PROJECT.

SO WE CAN PULL THAT UP. IT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION THAT HAS TO MAKE THE FINDINGS FOR THE DENIAL.

SO IF YOU COULD, I'M GOING TO HAVE DANIEL PULL THAT UP.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE APPROVAL RESOLUTION WITH STRIKETHROUGHS.

IT'S VERY BARE BONES. BUT THEN IT'LL HAVE THE FINDINGS AND WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW YOU WANT TO CRAFT THOSE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR THE DENIAL.

OKAY. SINCE WE VOTED IT DOWN, IT WOULD BE A DENIAL, RIGHT? I'M SORRY. WE VOTED IT DOWN, IT WOULD BE A DENIAL.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ATTORNEY ISN'T HERE.

WE'VE OCCASIONALLY HAD PROJECTS DENIED BY THE COMMISSION AND THE.

YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR THOSE TO MOVE, IT COULD BECAUSE IT WAS A RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ACTED ON AND IT WASN'T APPROVED.

SO IT DOESN'T THAT THAT'S NOT A DENIAL. IT'S JUST NOT AN APPROVAL.

SO WE DO THAT DOCUMENT OF DENIAL. RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S A DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY.

YEAH. DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL UP.

IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP. CAN YOU SHOW THE SCREEN? YEAH. SO ARE YOU ABLE TO FIND IT. THAT'S A LOT TO WORK WITH.

SO IT MIGHT TAKE US A MINUTE. YEAH. SO WE DO A RECESS FOR A MOMENT WHILE THEY DO THAT, OR SHOULD WE JUST DISCONTINUE? PROBABLY A RECESS UNTIL THEY CAN GET IT UP. OKAY, MAKE A MOTION TO RECESS FOR.

MOTION TO RECESS. TO RECESS FOR. FIVE MINUTES, TEN MINUTES UNTIL I'M DONE.

IT SHOULD JUST TAKE FIVE MINUTES. IT'S, I THINK, OR A MINUTE IT'S ON.

IT SHOULD BE ON THE COMPUTER. BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO PULL IT OVER. AYE. ALL IN FAVOR? A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. I AM TOLD BY STAFF WE ARE READY TO GO.

SO LET'S RETURN BACK FROM OUR A LITTLE LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

YEAH. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

SO THE RESOLUTION WE PULLED IT UP AND AGAIN IT'S AT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE APPROVAL RESOLUTION AND WE'VE JUST CHANGED THE LANGUAGE. AND WE CAN SCROLL THROUGH IT.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT STAFF HAS NOT FILLED OUT ARE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS.

ALL THE WHEREASES, THE RECITALS ARE APPLICABLE WHETHER YOU APPROVE IT OR NOT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE FINDINGS THERE'S WHERE IT BASICALLY SAYING OR THE COMMISSION IS SAYING IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA SET FORTH THEREIN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

AND THEN HERE'S THE CRITERIA A, AND YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CRAFT A, WHAT, YOU

[01:30:02]

OKAY, SO THAT'S BASICALLY JUST BEEN CROSSED OUT ESSENTIALLY, SO.

YEAH, THAT. THE WHOLE BLOCK OF TEXT. YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH, STOP THERE. YEAH. OH, YEAH. MAYBE SHRINK IT A LITTLE.

DO YOU HAVE THAT DEFINITION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? WE DO. THERE WAS THE PURPOSE. THERE'S A, THERE'S MANY PURPOSES FOR THE ACTUAL ZONING. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO THE CRITERIA TO SEE IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ITEM BROUGHT UP BY THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY.

THAT'S RIGHT. WITH WITH BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE DEFINITION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. NOW THAT CAME FROM A COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A REFERRAL IN HERE, A REFERENCE THAT IS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA ARE SPECIFIC FOR THE VARIANCE.

WHAT THE PUBLIC OR WHAT THE PERSON WAS REFERENCING IS IS A GENERAL PURPOSE FOR ALL THE ALL THE LAND USES IN THE INDUSTRIAL CATEGORIES.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

INDUSTRIAL. YEAH, IT'S THE SPECIFIC PURPOSES ARE FOR ALL THE INDUSTRIAL CATEGORIES.

SO THE, SO THAT SO WHAT THEY WERE REFERENCING REGARDING REGARDING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS APPLICABLE TO ALL INDUSTRIAL.

WELL IT'S JUST ENSURE THAT THE APPEARANCE AND LET'S SEE.

PERMIT COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH ARE, NO. LET'S SEE WHERE WAS THAT.

MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

THAT IN THIS. THAT'S A PURPOSE. IN THIS THING THAT'S MARKED OUT IN RED, THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

BUT YOU COULD MAKE A STATEMENT THAT IN THE COMMISSION'S OPINION, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR THE PROPOSED VARIANCE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONE.

LET'S TRY STARTING WITH THAT. YEAH, THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD.

SO YEAH, SO THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE IC INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL ZONE.

SPECIFICALLY COMPATIBILITY. COMPATIBILITY WITH THE CURRENT.

YEAH. YEAH. ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AND IS, LET'S SAY IT SAYS MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL DOES NOT MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONES. I THINK THAT PROBABLY GETS AT THE HEART OF THIS AGREEMENT.

I AGREE. YEAH. DID YOU DID YOU GET THAT? YEAH.

AND LET'S SEE. AND DOES NOT, SHOW COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE, AND DOES NOT MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

AND DOES NOT MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, THAT'S UP TO THE NEXT ONE.

THE NEXT CRITERIA. I THINK THAT COVERS IT. OKAY.

IT'S. I THINK IT SAYS IT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S THE HEIGHT.

IT'S THE CLOSENESS TO THE. PROXIMITY. YEAH. YEAH.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? YES, MAYBE SPECIFICALLY THE HEIGHT.

IS THERE ANOTHER. IS NOT COMPATIBLE. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT? YEAH. SPECIFICALLY, THE HEIGHT IS NOT COMPATIBLE.

WITH BUILDINGS THAT ARE TALLER. YEAH. BUT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING THE.

AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT CRITERIA, IT THE ZONING FOR ALL HE SAID THAT THE ZONING.

[01:35:05]

AND YOU COULD CITE WHAT COMMISSIONER LIGHT'S CONCERNS ABOUT PRECEDENTS OR.

THAT'S ALL IT IS, AND THERE'S. SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE OTHER PLACES HAVE ARE FARTHER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S THE TYPE THAT'S CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL IS INCOMPATIBLE. YEAH.

TO.

VARIANCE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE. OR YOU COULD JUST SAY THE VARIANCE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE OR DOES CONSTITUTE THE GRANTING OF A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.

YEAH. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS ESSENTIALLY IT'S YOU DON'T THINK IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH OR CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND HEIGHT. COMPATIBILITY YEAH, AND HEIGHT WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

YEAH. COMPATIBILITY AND HEIGHT IMPACTS UPON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL.

CONCERNING HEIGHT AND CONCERNING HEIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. I WOULD SAY HEIGHT. YEAH, HEIGHT IS THE QUESTION.

YEAH. WE CAN LEAVE IT. OKAY. SURE. THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FINAL RESOLVE SECTION THAT YOU'VE DENIED IT ON THIS DATE. AND THERE'S NO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. SURE. I CAN READ THE NAME. OH, YEAH.

THE NAME. SO. CHAIR, I TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT OR AND OR A VOTE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR ARE WE.

SEEING NONE. I GUESS WE'RE OKAY. SO DO WE JUST GET A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS CHANGES HAS CHANGED? YEAH. OKAY. YES. DO WE HAVE TO READ IT FIRST OR IS THAT NOT NECESSARY? I DON'T THINK I THINK YOU COULD JUST REFERENCE THE REVISED RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-09-PCR-11. OKAY, SO WE JUST VOTE TO APPROVE THAT.

MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-09-PCR-11.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE? SO WE GOT TO DO A VOTE ROLL CALL VOTE. SORRY. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HAZELTINE? NO. COMMISSIONER LUCE? NO. COMMISSIONER GADDIS? YES. COMMISSIONER YOUNG? YES. COMMISSIONER BOSWELL? YES. COMMISSIONER LIGHT? YES. CHAIRPERSON CRAIG? NO. SO THE MOTION CARRIES WITH THE CHANGES.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? HE VOTED NO. CRAIG VOTED NO.

RIGHT, I VOTED NO. OH, YOU BOUGHT IT? NO. I DID SELL IT, SO.

SO ANYWAY. GOT IT. GOT ADD UP TO SEVEN. THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S OKAY. SO, WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO

[L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]

I THINK IT MIGHT BE HER LAST MEETING. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH HER, AND SHE'LL BE MISSED.

[01:40:08]

I. YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND THANK EVERYBODY UP HERE.

IT'S BEEN FUN REALLY A QUITE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND WELCOME OUR NEW COMMISSIONER.

YEAH INDEED. AND CERTAINLY I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE AND A PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH YOU.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY NOT LIKE IT, THAT I'LL PROBABLY STILL CALL AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT CRAZY STUFF IN THE CITY.

OKAY, I HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER, SO WE'LL PROBABLY STILL BE DOING THAT.

VERY GOOD. ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF? NO OTHER ITEMS.

[M. ITEMS FROM STAFF]

WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ITEMS ACTUALLY COMING UP TO COUNCIL.

JUST ONE HEADS UP. WE'LL BE BRINGING THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING REGULATIONS.

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THOSE. AS A RESULT OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT THEN BECAME LEGAL NONCONFORMING, ESPECIALLY ALONG PCH. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU.

AND YOU'LL SEE I CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S COMING TO THE OCTOBER HEARING.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANY WAVE POOLS AND THE SEASIDE LAGOON? THAT WOULD BE HARBOR COMMISSION. NO, SIR. THEY COULD FIND A WAY TO COME HERE TO, DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTO THE HARBOR. WELL, WE ACTUALLY WE.

AND ANOTHER FUNCTION WE INTERVIEWED THE MAYOR OF EL SEGUNDO, AND I MADE A JOKE SAYING, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN CONNECT YOUR NEW WAVE POOL, YOUR $150 MILLION ONE WITH OUR WITH SEASIDE LAGOON.

SO ANY WAY. AND ANY COMMISSION REFERRALS. INDEED, ANY COMMISSION REFERRALS TO STAFF?

[N. COMMISSION REFERRALS TO STAFF]

OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW. THEY CAN ASK. THERE'S A QUESTION.

THAT SAYS REFERRALS. WE ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION, OKAY.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. ASK YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.

SO IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE WE GRANTED THE SOUTH BAY GALLERIA THEIR PHASE II AND THEY'VE NOT.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING BEING DONE. ARE WE PREPARING FOR PHASE III NOW OR WHAT'S GOING ON? OH, IT'S THE. THERE'S A WAVE POOL IN THERE. YEAH.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR PLAN CHECKS UP TO ISSUANCE AND HAVEN'T PULLED THOSE PERMITS.

WE KNOW THERE'S SOME OWNERSHIP ISSUES THAT ARE BEING WORKED OUT AND THAT'S ALL WE, THAT OWNERSHIP.

SO, AND DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD DEVELOP IT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED, BUT WE REALLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN.

A CONTRACTOR TO BUILD IT? WELL, A DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. AND FINANCING IS AN ISSUE.

GO FIGURE MONEY IS A PROBLEM IN GENERAL. TOO BAD THAT BANK CLOSED UP OVER ON AVIATION.

INDEED. MUSIC CENTER. YEAH. BUT THAT THAT'S, YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW A LOT.

FOR YEARS ABOUT TO GET THAT THING BUILT. NOW SINCE THIS IS IN OUR AREA.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN WITH THE EXISTING HIGH TENSION POWER LINES GOING DOWN, DO A ZIP LINE FROM THERE DOWN TO SEASIDE LAGOON.

OR DO WE NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT? COASTAL COMMISSION. HARBOR COMMISSION.

NO, NOT, NOT, NOT THAT. DEFINITELY NOT SAFE. PART OF IT IS INDEED.

AND ANY OTHER REFERRALS, QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING NONE.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.