[00:00:01] 2026 AT 7:02 P.M. YES. COMMISSIONER GOLD? HERE. COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ? HERE. COMMISSIONER PITZELE IS OUT ILL TODAY. COMMISSIONER SMITH? HERE. COMMISSIONER TANNER IS OUT AND UNAVAILABLE TODAY. VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN-KELLY? HERE. VICE, CHAIR O'BRIEN-HERRERA? HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. NOW, I'D LIKE TO INVITE US TO SALUTE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA] THE ORDER OF AGENDA AS IS? I MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS] ARE THERE ANY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING? THERE ARE NOT. OKAY. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. [F. CONSENT CALENDAR] BUSINESS ITEMS EXCEPT THOSE FORMALLY. NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY REQUEST THAT ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS BE REMOVED, DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON SEPARATELY. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE TAKEN UP UNDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR SECTION BELOW. THOSE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WILL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION FOLLOWING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR PUBLIC THAT WISH TO PULL AN ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO PULL OUR MINUTES, PLEASE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS IS WITH THE MINUTES PULLED? I MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. SO WE HAVE OUR MINUTES PULLED. [G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS] WE'RE JUST DOING THIS SO WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE OUR MINUTES. COMMISSIONER SMITH IS NEW WITH US TONIGHT, SO HE WILL MOST LIKELY NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THOSE MINUTES. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS IS? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MELENDEZ. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I ABSTAIN AS I WAS NOT PRESENT IN THE LAST MEETING. THANK YOU. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES. WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. [H. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS] THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? A 35 YEAR RESIDENT. I'M GOING TO ABBREVIATE A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO DEFOREST DISTRICT FOUR, ETC.. MANY OF YOU I HAVE MET A FEW, I HAVE NOT. YOU'RE PROBABLY TIRED OF SEEING ME OR THE SUBJECT AND I HAVE REASONS FOR IT. THE THINGS THAT I MAY SAY YOU MAY FIND THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ALONG ARTESIA, THE PUBLIC THAT I'M SPEAKING WITH AND SOME HAVE ASKED ME TO SPEAK FOR. UNFORTUNATELY OR FORTUNATELY, I GET EMAILS AND TEXT EVERY SINGLE TIME I DO THIS AND THEY KEEP SAYING KEEP GOING. [00:05:05] HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE, FOLKS. I CAME TO MY FIRST MEETING IN Q2 LAST YEAR IN THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY AND VERY SMALL FEW PEOPLE, I DON'T REMEMBER 5 OR 6 AND SEEK TO VOLUNTEER AND THEN LEARN ABOUT THE CITY, WHICH I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECAUSE I'VE TRAVELED FOR 40 YEARS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, MANY TIMES OVER RUNNING BUSINESSES. SO IF I SAY SOMETHING OUT OF LINE, JACK, PLEASE CORRECT ME. AS I KNOW SOME FOLKS WILL, INITIALLY I SPOKE AGAINST AND THIS IS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, FOLKS, THIS IS ERFQ. THIS IS THE EMAILS FROM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE AN LGBTQ SCULPTURE IN FRONT OF THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY. I SENT CITY COUNCIL THE DATA THAT I RECEIVED OUT OF 100 PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE WITH, AND THAT'S TIMES MANY IF YOU WANTED A THOUSAND PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS, THAT IS NO PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT OUR TIME HAS MOVED ON SINCE THEN. THE NUMBERS BACK THEN I GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL WERE 90. PEOPLE SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT IT. AND THIS IS ON ARTESIA. IT'S PEOPLE THAT RUN BUSINESSES, LIVE THERE, AND SO ON. IT'S NOT SOMEBODY FIVE MILES AWAY. IT'S NOT IN DISTRICT ONE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. 10 DIDN'T WANT. NINE, I'M SORRY, DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY. AND I GATHER THAT ONE SAID THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT. HOWEVER, NOT ONE PERSON THAT I SPOKE TO IN ROUGHLY 30 PLUS DAYS HAD HEARD OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. CAN I ASK FOR 30 MORE SECONDS? I'M SORRY, WE ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN THIS SECTION PER PERSON. REALLY? THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN TO ALL THESE MEETINGS. THANK YOU FOR BEING SO FRIENDLY. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE OR ECOMMENTS? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I'LL WAIT FOR J.1. OKAY. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE COMMUNITY PANEL'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SELECTION OF ARTISTS TO PARTICIPATE IN A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR [J. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION] PHASE I OF THE ARTESIA BOULEVARD ART INSTALLATIONS. YEAH. HI. HI, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANTS. I'M WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE ARTESIA PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES MULTIPLE ART LOCATIONS, ART INSTALLATIONS, EXCUSE ME, ALL ALONG ARTESIA BOULEVARD IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEDIUMS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. WE'RE AT A VERY EXCITING PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO AS OUTLINED IN THE ARTESIA PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN, THERE IS A COMMUNITY PANEL THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. IT INCLUDES TWO PUBLIC OR EXCUSE ME, CULTURE ART COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THEN ONE MEMBER OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. SO WE HAVE A FIVE PANEL COMMUNITY PANEL THAT IS TASKED WITH REVIEWING PROPOSALS RECEIVED THROUGH AN RFQ. AND FOR WHERE WE ARE AT THE PHASE NOW IS OUR COMMUNITY PANEL DID REVIEW ALL OF THE RESPONDENTS THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE RFQ. I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED JUST OVER 190 RESPONSES. SO VERY, VERY EXCITING, GREAT NUMBERS TO LOOK AT. A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PROJECT. SO REALLY, REALLY FUN PHASE OF WHERE WE ARE. SO OUR COMMUNITY PANEL THEN IN, IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, THE PROJECTS WORKED ON WHITTLING THAT LIST DOWN TO THE TOP THREE, POSSIBLY FOUR ARTISTS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ART LOCATION. AND SO FOR TONIGHT, WHAT WE ARE ASKING OF THE COMMISSION IS TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY PANEL'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TOP FINALIST FOR EACH LOCATION. THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT WILL STILL NEED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FORMAL FORMAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, FOLLOWED BY CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, HOPEFULLY WOULD ALLOW THE FINALISTS FOR EACH LOCATION TO BE SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN AN RFP. [00:10:07] AND WHAT THAT WILL DO IS THAT THOSE TOP ARTISTS WILL PREPARE A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL FOR EACH LOCATION. THEY'LL PREPARE A MOCK UP AND A CONCEPT DESIGN SPECIFIC FOR THAT SITE. WHAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT IS JUST ART THAT THEY HAVE DONE AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. SO NOT SPECIFIC TO ARTESIA. SO JUST, JUST TO KIND OF LAY THE GROUNDWORK, LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. SO AGAIN, TONIGHT, WHATEVER YOU RECOMMEND, TONIGHT, WE WILL STILL TAKE TO COUNCIL FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO BEAU BASSE OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH US, AND HE'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. I THANK YOU. THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE ON OUR COMMUNITY PANEL. AND AGAIN. THE PRESENTATION. OH, THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH JUST SHY OF 200 APPLICANTS. OUR TEAM NARROWED DOWN AND VETTED THAT LIST TO A SLIGHTLY SHORTER LIST THAT WE REVIEWED WITH COMMUNITY PANEL. AGAIN, I'M JUST SORT OF RECAPPING WHAT KELLY JUST SAID, BUT THE GOALS TONIGHT, I THINK ARE TO LOOK AT OUR FINAL, OUR FINALISTS THAT WERE SELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY PANEL. TAKE THOSE 3 OR 4 FINALISTS, AND IF EVERYBODY HERE FEELS GOOD ABOUT THEIR PAST WORK, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO SHOW JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES OF THEIR PAST WORK. WE'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND PENDING CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WE WILL ASK EACH OF THOSE ARTISTS TO CREATE A SITE SPECIFIC CONCEPT FOR ARTESIA. SO AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST PAST WORK OF THEIRS TO GET A SENSE OF THE KIND OF WORK THAT THEY MAKE. BUT AT THIS STAGE, WITHOUT SHARING ALL OF THEIR RESUMES, THEIR PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, PAGES OF, OF PAST WORK THAT'S WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE COMMUNITY PANEL. AND WE HAD A VERY LIVELY DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY PANEL. I THINK THERE WAS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT MATERIALS AND LOGISTICS. AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE COME UP. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THINGS, AS YOU SEE THESE ARTISTS, I'M HAPPY TO SORT OF SPEAK TO THEM NOW. BUT YEAH, WE HAD SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AS PART OF THE PANEL, SO WE WERE MAKING SURE WE WERE GETTING SORT OF LIKE A CITY PERSPECTIVE OF LIKE WHAT WAS FEASIBLE, WHAT TYPES OF ARTWORK WERE FEASIBLE FOR THE LOCATIONS. WE HAD TWO CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSIONERS ON THE PANEL AND THEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO. I, DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THIS. NO, NO. OKAY. SO LET'S ZIP THROUGH. JUST A QUICK RECAP OF THE LOCATIONS OF NEW COMMISSIONER JOINING US. WELCOME, MR. SMITH. WE HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALONG ARTESIA THAT ARE PART OF THIS POTENTIAL PHASE I. WE HAVE EAST/WEST MONUMENTS ON, ON SORT OF EITHER END. WE HAVE TWO LARGER MEDIAN SCULPTURES WHICH ARE PLANNED. WE HAVE ONE CROSSWALK SORT OF MURAL PAINTED CROSSWALK. WE HAVE FIVE CONCRETE BENCHES THAT WILL BE WE'RE ASKING THE EXISTING BENCHES. WE'RE ASKING THE ARTISTS TO EITHER CREATE SOME ELEMENTS ON AROUND FOR, AND ENHANCE THOSE EXISTING BENCHES. AND DID I MISS OH, AND THE, THE LIBRARY SCULPTURE IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY. SO LOOKING AT THE FIRST TWO MEDIAN INSTALLATIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $100,000 BUDGET FOR EACH OF THESE. 100,000 EACH. AND WE CAN JUST WE CAN KIND OF THINK, JUMP TO THE ARTISTS, PLEASE. I THINK THAT. THESE WERE THE FOUR ARTISTS FINALISTS, ANAISA FRANCO FROM BOCA RATON, FLORIDA. NATHAN MABRY HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN CULVER CITY. MARY CARTER TAUB FROM CHAPEL HILL. AND SIJIA CHEN, ALSO HERE IN LOS ANGELES. JUST A SAMPLING OF ANAISA FRANCO'S WORK. I THINK THE COMMUNITY PANEL REALLY LIKED SORT OF HOW PLAYFUL SOME OF THESE WERE, HOW COLORFUL A LOT OF DAY NIGHT ACTIVATIONS. AND AGAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR THE MEDIANS IS WE WANTED WORK THAT WOULD BE BRIGHT, COLORFUL, CREATE LANDMARKS, BUT ALSO HAVE BOTH DAY AND NIGHT ACTIVATION INCLUDE SOME LIGHTING. I THINK WAS NATHAN MABRY DOES THESE REALLY KIND OF FUN, SORT OF LIKE ORIGAMI SCULPTURES. AND THEN HE ADDS, LIKE A LOT OF THEM HAVE THESE LITTLE, LIKE, WEIRD BIRDS ON THEM. AND AGAIN, JUST SORT OF LIKE FUN, COLORFUL, PLAYFUL. MARY CARTER TAUB. ALSO, I THINK THE COMMUNITY PANEL REALLY LIKED HOW BRIGHT AND COLORFUL AND SORT OF VERY MEMORABLE HER ARTWORK WAS. SOME OF THESE ARE SORT OF FUNCTIONAL ELEMENTS. BUT AGAIN YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE ARTISTS TO CREATE SITE SPECIFIC CONCEPTS FOR US. AND SIJIA CHEN, WHO ALSO HAD A LOT OF DAY NIGHT ACTIVATION. COLORFUL, LIKE SIMPLE DESIGN, CUT OUT SHAPES. [00:15:05] SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR ARTISTS THAT WERE SELECTED TO PROVIDE MEDIAN CONCEPTS. AND WE WILL ASK EACH OF THOSE ARTISTS TO CREATE MULTIPLE MEDIA OPPORTUNITIES. SO WHEN WE GET THESE CONCEPTS, WE DO EXPECT A LOT OF DETAIL. WE WENT OVER THIS IN THE COMMUNITY PANEL, BUT WE'LL EXPECT RENDERINGS, CONCEPT DETAILS, MATERIAL DETAILS. SOMETIMES ARTISTS WILL DO SOME SORT OF PRE-ENGINEERING EXPECTATIONS OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED WEIGHTS AND WHAT KIND OF FOUNDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED. SO THAT NEXT STAGE, WHEN WE GET CONCEPTS BACK, SHOULD BE FAIRLY DETAILED FOR, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL ALLOW US TO REALLY PICK THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT JUST A NAPKIN DRAWING. EAST AND WEST MONUMENTS. THESE WILL ACTUALLY REPLACE THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGNAGE IS THE PLAN WHICH HAVE DATED SORT OF DESIGNS LOGOS ON THEM. WE, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION IN THIS GROUP AT CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THESE MONUMENTS WILL ACTUALLY LITERALLY HAVE TO SAY, REDONDO, YOU KNOW, WELCOME TO REDONDO ON THEM, BUT WILL BE SORT OF PLACE MARKERS SORT OF THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF ARTESIA BOULEVARD. THESE WILL BE A LITTLE SMALLER THAN THE LARGER MEDIAN SCULPTURES. EACH OF THESE HAS A PROPOSED $40,000 BUDGET. WE CAN PROBABLY JUMP TO THE ARTISTS. AND NATHAN MABRY AND ANAISA FRANCO AND A THIRD ARTIST, WILL NATZEL FROM MINNESOTA WERE SELECTED. AND AGAIN WE HAD A LOT OF ARTISTS, BUT THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SPEAK TO THIS REALLY WERE EXCITED BY A COUPLE OF THEM. AND SO WHILE WE'RE NOT REALLY EXPECTING MAYBE ANAISA FRANCO, FOR EXAMPLE, TO DO BOTH A MEDIAN AND A MONUMENT. WE, THE PANEL WANTED TO SEE WHAT THEIR CONCEPTING FOR EACH AND GIVE OURSELVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF SELECT. WILL NATZEL, A LOT OF LIGHT DRIVEN INSTALLATION. SO I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE REALLY LIKED AND THOUGHT. I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CONCEPTS HE COULD PROVIDE FOR US. THE CROSSWALK. THIS IS AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THERE ARE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. ONE OF THE REASONS THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS THAT PEOPLE WANTED SOMETHING BRIGHT AND COLORFUL AS A MARKER, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY SLOW TRAFFIC. ONE OF THE THINGS WE KEPT HEARING ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET ART TO HELP SLOW THINGS DOWN? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE BE ALL, END ALL, BUT SOMETHING THAT BRIGHT, COLORFUL, VIBRANT. THE, MARK GARLOCK FROM PUBLIC WORKS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WERE TYPES OF MATERIALS AND PAINTS THAT WE COULD BE USED, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE THE ARTISTS PROPOSING FOR THIS SOME DETAILS AND ALSO DETAILS ABOUT. THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE STRIPES, YOU KNOW, ON CROSSWALKS, THERE'S A LOT OF SORT OF LOGISTICS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS ONE, SO. LET ME KEEP GOING TO THE ARTISTS, I THINK. THANK YOU. MARY CARTER TAUB WAS ALSO PROPOSED. AND YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE IN THIS PICTURE OF A CROSS SHE ACTUALLY DID IN NORTH CAROLINA. JOEY ROSE IN EMERYVILLE HAD A DIFFERENT APPROACH, BUT HAS ALSO DONE STREET GROUND PLANE MURALS. MOBILE MURAL LAB, WHO'S BASED HERE IN LOS ANGELES. ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE PAIRS I BELIEVE IS IN THE SOUTH BAY. AND THEN PHOEBE NELSON FROM SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. AND AGAIN, MARY CARTER'S WORK, BRIGHT, COLORFUL, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK ALREADY CREATED A VERY SUCCESSFUL CROSSWALK. JOEY ROSE IS A LITTLE MORE FIGURATIVE, A LITTLE MORE ILLUSTRATIVE, BUT HE'S ALSO MADE A CROSSWALK INSTALLATION THAT HAS A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL. BUT WE WERE ALSO CONFIDENT THAT HIS WORK AND STYLE STOOD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL, BUT SOMEBODY THAT WE ALSO FELT CONFIDENT COULD DELIVER BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN HIS WORK IN THE PAST. MOBILE MURAL LAB. VERY NOT STYLE SPECIFIC PAINTERS, BUT VERY TECHNICALLY PROFICIENT TEAM. THEY PAINTED MURALS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAVE ALSO DONE GROUND PLANE WORK, WHICH WE LIKED. AND THEN PHOEBE NELSON, SAME AGAIN. WE WERE IMPRESSED THE FACT THAT SHE'S DONE CROSSWALK WORK AND, YOU KNOW, HAD TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO APPROACH THOSE THINGS AND ALSO HAS CREATED A LOT OF SORT OF FUN, INTERESTING YOU KNOW, MURALS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. FINALLY, THE CONCRETE BENCHES THESE WILL HAVE A SMALLER BUDGET, BUT THEY'LL HAVE A BUDGET OF ABOUT $8,000 PER BENCH. AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARTISTS IS TO CREATE SOME KIND OF ADDITIVE TO THE EXISTING BENCHES. [00:20:02] RIGHT NOW THE BITCHES ARE THEY'RE PRETTY WORN. THEY'RE PRETTY ANONYMOUS. LIKE YOU ALMOST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE HIGHLY TRAFFICKED FOOT TRAFFIC AREAS. THERE'S A SENIOR HOME, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF ONE OF THESE. AND WE WANTED TO ENHANCE THESE BENCHES. ADD SOME MORE COLOR. ADD SOME MORE FUNCTIONAL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM MOSAIC TILE TO METAL OVERLAYS. A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, EVEN JUST PURELY PAINTED. THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT ARTISTS CAN SORT OF UTILIZE TO ENHANCE THOSE BENCHES. FIVE ARTISTS IN THIS MIX. ALEX CERUTTI FROM CULVER CITY, CALIFORNIA, THAT IS THESE REALLY SORT OF LIKE BRIGHT POPPY ART INSTALLATIONS. ARMELLE NGO. EMILY TANAKA, WHO ARE BOTH LOCAL AND I BELIEVE HAVE DONE A BUNCH OF WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. MOBILE MURAL LAB AGAIN. AND ROBERT GOMEZ FROM IDYLLWILD, CALIFORNIA. SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR INDIVIDUAL WORKS. CERUTTI AGAIN, JUST BRIGHT, COLORFUL. YOU CAN SORT OF IT'S SORT OF LIKE RETRO, ALMOST 90S VIBE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THESE REALLY POPPING UP ON THESE BENCHES. ARMELLE NGO. AGAIN, AN ARTIST, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT GRAPHIC, BRIGHT, INTERESTING PALETTES AND PATTERNS. MOBILE MURAL LAB AGAIN. AND EMILY TANAKA, WHO AGAIN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT BRIGHT, FUN, COLORFUL. AND ROBERT GOMEZ A LITTLE DIFFERENT STYLE, BUT HE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORK THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY PANEL WAS IMPRESSED BY. AND THEN FINALLY, THE LIBRARY SCULPTURE, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A $25,000 BUDGET. IT'S STILL TBD EXACTLY WHERE THIS WILL BE SITUATED. BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL GIVE THE ARTISTS AS MUCH DETAIL AS POSSIBLE AND LET'S SEE WHAT THEY PROPOSE. SO THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FRONTAGE FACINGS, STANDALONE SCULPTURES. AND THEN THREE ARTISTS WERE SELECTED FOR THIS ANAISA FRANCO, MIKI IWASAKI FROM SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. AND SHABAZZ LARKIN FROM NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. AND AGAIN ANAISA FRANCO'S WORK WE'VE SEEN. MIKI IWASAKI HAD A REALLY ALMOST ARCHITECTURAL APPROACH TO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT HE'S CREATED THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SITUATE WELL AT THE LIBRARY. AND THEN SHABAZZ LARKIN IS REALLY ACTUALLY SORT OF AN INTERESTING CHOICE. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND HIS WORK, REALLY MORE OF A GALLERY MUSEUM ARTIST VERSUS SOME OF THESE ARTISTS REALLY JUST FOCUS ON PUBLIC ART AND PUBLIC SPACES. BUT HIS WORK WE FOUND, I THINK VERY INTERESTING HAD A LOT TO SAY. SO I THINK THE GROUP WAS VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CONCEPT YOU WOULD PROVIDE FOR US. AND HE DOES DO SCULPTURAL WORKS, BUT. THOSE ARE THE APPROVED LOCATIONS. THOSE ARE THE ARTISTS THAT WERE SORT OF SHORTLISTED. AND I THINK AT THIS STAGE, PENDING THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN SHORT ORDER, HAVE SOME REALLY EXCITING SITE-SPECIFIC CONCEPTS FROM EACH OF THESE ARTISTS TO SHARE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. CAN WE OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? YEAH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD IF I MAY. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE MORE ARTIST. I REMEMBER SEEING SOME DIFFERENT IN A DIFFERENT. IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION, WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE WHO DROPPED OFF? THERE WAS ANOTHER ARTIST. I DON'T KNOW, KELLY, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS. SURE. IF YOU REMEMBER, AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM BECAUSE THERE WAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID LOOK INTO IT AND DID FIND THAT THERE COULD BE A CONFLICT IF THAT PARTICIPANT REMAINED. AND SO WE DID PULL THAT ARTIST FROM THE, FROM THE GROUPING. OKAY. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON. I HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. HOW WILL THE FINAL ARTIST BE SELECTED? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. SO ONCE WE GET THE FINAL CONCEPTS BACK, I THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO COMMUNITY PANEL OR STRAIGHT TO COMMISSION. WE WILL GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND THEY WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FINAL ARTIST SELECTION. SO WE'LL GO TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND THEN BACK TO YOU GUYS. SO WILL YOU MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY PANEL BEFORE WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING? WELL, MY GUESS IS WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FROM THAT POINT. USUALLY THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE 30 TO 45 DAYS FOR ARTISTS TO CREATE CONCEPTS FOR US. SO IT MIGHT BE TWO MONTHS BEFORE, MAYBE EVEN THREE BEFORE WE COME BACK, BECAUSE IT TOOK US A LITTLE TIME TO SCHEDULE THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND GET EVERYBODY. BUT YEAH, WE HAVE TO COLLECT THE CONCEPTS FIRST, REVIEW IT WITH THE COMMUNITY PANEL, LET THE COMMUNITY PANEL SELECT A PREFERRED FINALIST [00:25:05] AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO COMMISSION. SO DID I, I'M DOING AN OKAY JOB EXPLAINING THAT. SO THEN ONCE ONCE THE ARTISTS ARE THE FINAL ARTISTS ARE DETERMINED HOW LONG FROM WHEN THEY CREATE, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE ONCE THEY GET THE OKAY TO START CREATING? MY GUESS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO 45 DAYS TO RECEIVE CONCEPTS BACK AGAIN, BECAUSE I SORT OF MENTIONED WE EXPECT VERY DETAILED CONCEPTS BACK FROM EACH OF THESE ARTISTS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO REALLY PLAN DESIGN. OFTENTIMES THEY'LL SEND US SOME INITIAL DRAFTS, WE'LL GIVE FEEDBACK. AND THEN THEN WE'LL TAKE IT BACK TO COMMUNITY PANEL. SO 60 DAYS, TWO MONTHS MAYBE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHEN WILL ARTWORK ACTUALLY BE INSTALLED? LIKE, ARE WE LOOKING AT THE END OF 2027 OR WE'RE LOOKING AT SOONER OR WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 2028? SO THEY'LL ALL BE IN VARIOUS TIMELINES BECAUSE SOME THINGS LIKE THE BENCHES MIGHT, PENDING APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL MIGHT MOVE A LOT FASTER. AND WE CAN AND AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO SORT OF SAY BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS ARE ALSO DEPENDENT ON OTHER LIKE BORING LOGISTICAL FACTORS, RIGHT? SO LIKE ONCE YOU SAY SELECT AN ARTIST, WE THEN HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CITY TAKES TO PUT THAT ARTIST UNDER CONTRACT. THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S TIME TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT DEPENDING ON HOW COMPLICATED OR EASY THE FABRICATION, BUT MY GUESS IS WE'LL START SEEING INTO INSTALLATIONS IN 2027. THANK YOU. SORRY. IT'S CLOSE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF MY KIDS WILL ALREADY BE IN COLLEGE AND GRADUATED, OR IF I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT BEFORE THEN. WE'RE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. THANK YOU. WITHOUT RUSHING. RIGHT. WE WANT TO, OF COURSE, GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS EFFICIENTLY, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE WE'RE HAVING AS MANY TOUCH POINTS AS POSSIBLE AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE COMMUNITY PANEL REVIEWS THAT YOU REVIEW. I'M JUST TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. ARE THESE ARTISTS ELIGIBLE FOR MULTIPLE COMMISSIONS ON THE PROJECT? YES. THERE'S NO, THAT'S REALLY A DECISION FOR THE COMMISSION. WHEN WE GET OUR FINALISTS BACK, IT CAN CERTAINLY BE A SITUATION WHERE ARTIST A, WE LOVE THEIR MONUMENT AND ONE OF THEIR MEDIAN INSTALLATIONS. OR MAYBE WE LOVE SOMEBODY. THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT CAME UP IN THE COMMUNITY PANELS. LIKE WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR PARAMETERS? AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S YOUR DECISION. AND IT COULD BE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? ONE ARTIST CAME UP WITH TWO MEDIAN INSTALLATIONS THAT ARE CONNECTED. WE LOVE THEM. THEY SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY, THEY CREATE MARKERS. AND THEN LIKE WE'RE COMMISSIONING ONE ARTIST FOR TWO PIECES. BUT THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND THE COMMISSION'S DECISION. GOTCHA. YEAH, I WONDER ABOUT THE VALUE OF A UNIFIED VISION. YEAH, NO. AND THAT AGAIN, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WAS DEFINITELY WE HAD LENGTH AT THE COMMUNITY PANEL. SO WE INTENTIONALLY DID NOT LIMIT OURSELVES TO ONE ARTIST PER LOCATION. IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, CREATED SOMETHING THAT SPOKE TO EVERYBODY ACROSS MULTIPLE. I HOPE THAT SORT OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION. YEAH, 100%. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION SPEAKING TO THAT AS WELL, HAVING IT LOOK UNIFIED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STREET. SO IF WE GO THROUGH AND CHOOSE ARTISTS AND THEN WHAT COMES BACK TO US JUST LOOKS REALLY JUMBLED. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN SAY EITHER THAT ARTWORK DOESN'T WORK FOR US, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT ARTIST ALTOGETHER? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'RE IN ANOTHER CITY WHERE WE SELECTED THREE FINALISTS, ARTS COMMISSION. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SORT OF A SMALLER PANEL REVIEW, ARTS COMMISSION APPROVED. WE GOT CONCEPTS BACK AND WE IT'S PRETTY RARE, BUT WE DIDN'T LIKE ANY OF THE CONCEPTS. USUALLY WE'RE IN A SITUATION, WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER SMITH AND GOLD LOVE THIS ONE. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN-KELLY AND O'BRIEN-HERRERA REALLY LIKE THIS ONE. AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE. BUT WE STARTED BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. WE WENT BACK TO OUR RFQ LIST AND IT AGAIN, IT ADDS TIME, BUT TO OUR POINT IS WE'D RATHER MAKE WE'D RATHER NOT JUST PICK SOMETHING BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM AND TAKE THE TIME TO. THESE WILL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT 10, 15, 20 YEARS, SO. HOPEFULLY LONGER. HOPEFULLY LONGER. IT'S WORTH DOING RIGHT. BUT YES, WE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. AND EVEN THE CONCEPTS WE GET BACK IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THE REALM OF HEY ARTIST B GIVE US THIS CONCEPT. WE LOVE IT. WE DON'T LIKE THE COLOR PALETTE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, REASONS A, B, C, D, OR WE NEED THIS TO BE TALLER OR SMALLER, LESS LIGHT. AND SO MOST OF THESE ARTISTS UNDERSTAND THAT THERE USUALLY IS SOME ART DIRECTION AND SOME CHANGES. AND THAT THAT'S VERY COMMON IN THIS PROCESS. OKAY. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED ON THE EAST WEST MONUMENTS, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING WELCOME TO REDONDO BEACH ANY LONGER. I WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER THAT, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE AND IMPORTANT TO HAVE. [00:30:03] WELCOME TO REDONDO BEACH. SO IF WE CAN HAVE THE ARTISTS MAYBE GIVE US A RENDERING WHERE THEY INCORPORATE THAT, AS WELL AS NOT INCORPORATING THAT IF IT'S POSSIBLE. SO WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO. YEAH, SO I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN THE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY APPROVED THE, THE PLAN HAD A VERY LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. AND IT WAS MORE SO TIED TO THE LOGOS THAT ARE ON THERE AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDO THE SIGNAGE ANYWAYS WITH THE NEW CITY LOGO. BUT THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC THAT THEY DID NOT WANT THESE SIGNS TO BE THE FORMAL WELCOME SIGNAGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ON A SEPARATE KIND OF BUDGET LINE ITEM AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE DO SOME MORE WELCOME SIGNS WITH THE NEW UPDATED LOGO. SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY REPLACING IT. IT'S JUST KIND OF USING THE SAME LOCATION IN ANTICIPATION OF A NEW WELCOME SIGN IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I CAN'T CONFIRM, BUT DURING THE CITY COUNCIL THERE THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REPLACE WITH NEWER WELCOME SIGNS AND HAVE THESE JUST BE ART. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE THE CITY HAS A PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS VERY STRICT DEFINITIONS OF WHAT PUBLIC ART IS AND WHAT THE JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND CAN BE SPENT ON. ONE OF THEM THAT IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY IS EXCLUDED IS WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. SO WE CANNOT MAKE SIGNS AND PAY FOR IT WITH JOHN PARSONS PUBLIC ART FUND. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, ARE YOU DONE? I'M DONE. THANK YOU. WHEN THE ARTISTS ARE CHOSEN, DO THEY ACTUALLY COME OUT HERE AND, LIKE, GET TO SEE THE SPACE AND WHAT THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT AREAS THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING IN? OR IS IT JUST ALL LIKE VIRTUAL? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON THE ARTIST. IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE THE ARTISTS TO COME OUT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY LOCAL ARTISTS, I KNOW SOME ARTISTS, EVEN IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING I'VE ALREADY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE SITES BECAUSE WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM SOME ARTISTS. MY GUESS IS LOCAL ARTISTS WILL PROBABLY BE ALL HERE ON SITE. WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ARTISTS AS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT LOGISTICALLY IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. BECAUSE I WOULD JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO OFFER A RENDERING OF WHAT THEY SEE MIGHT WORK WELL. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS, NO, I MEAN, I 100% AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET TRAVEL COSTS FOR ARTISTS AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL PROCESS, IT'S PROBABLY A, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR DECISION TO MAKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUDGET TO FLY ARTISTS WHO ARE NOT LOCAL TO SAY. WELL, MY EXPECTATION WAS THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE FLYING THEM OUT, BUT THANK YOU. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THEIR DECISION. YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THEIR PROCESS IF THEY FEEL LIKE. BUT WE WILL PROVIDE A VERY DETAILED RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. THE SITE PHOTOS, DETAILS WE'VE GOT, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY GETTING KIM FROM MY TEAM IS ALREADY GETTING LIKE PLANS OF SOME DIMENSIONS AND CITY PLANS AND DETAILS FROM PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE AS DETAILED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. SO JUST GO ON THAT. YOU'VE DONE STUFF LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE THE ARTIST DOES NOT SHOW UP AND YOU JUST GET THIS STUFF SHIPPED AND INSTALLED. I THINK COMMISSIONER WAS ASKING MORE ABOUT LIKE THE PROCESS OF THE ARTIST, LIKE CREATING A CONCEPT. BUT USUALLY WHEN ONCE WE, LET'S SAY WE COMMISSION ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, JONES TO CREATE A SCULPTURE, GENERALLY THE ARTISTS THAT AT THAT STAGE WHERE THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT OR BUDGETED, THEN WE'LL USUALLY HAVE ARTISTS COME OUT. AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF CHECKS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LIKE ENGINEERING REPORTS AND FABRICATION CHECKS. AND LIKE, THAT'S OUR JOB TO MANAGE ALL OF THOSE DETAILS. AND THEN USUALLY THE ARTISTS ARE USUALLY HERE DURING INSTALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. WHETHER THEY'RE USING YOU KNOW, NATHAN MABRY IS NOT HAND DELIVERING A GIANT METAL SCULPTURE. BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A FABRICATOR BRINGING IT, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY HERE MANAGING THAT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE EXPECTATION. YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S EVER BEEN A CASE WHERE YOU GET THE SCULPTURES OR WHATEVER. IT'S JUST SHIPPED. YES. SOMETIMES. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S A BIG SHIPMENT. IT'S CHEAPER THAN HAVING THEM COME STAY FOR A WEEK SOMETIMES. WE DID 39. THE SCULPTURAL BENCHES FOR L.A. COUNTY'S PARKS. THEY CAME OVER ON A BOAT FROM CHINA AND THE ARTISTS, THE ARTISTS, OUR TEAM, L.A. COUNTY PARKS AND REC TEAMS WERE ALL OUT THERE OVERSEEING ALL THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE BENCHES BEING INSTALLED, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT PLACES. BUT YEAH, THEY HAD INSTALLERS. AND AT THAT POINT, THE ARTISTS WERE JUST LIKE ME, WERE JUST STANDING THERE WATCHING. SO, BUT YEAH. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU AND THANKS. THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL, THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ON THE COMMUNITY PANEL. IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO I MEAN, [00:35:01] WE THINK WE SPENT A COUPLE HOURS GOING THROUGH THE SHORT LIST. WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? DO WE DISCUSS THE ARTISTS THAT THEY'VE SELECTED? DO WE. YEAH. SO WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM YOU GUYS, A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE TO COUNCIL. AND WE CAN EITHER DO THAT FIRST OR, BUT OR GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR FLIP THAT WE CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN GIVE US YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP HERE AND IT'S NOT PULLING UP FOR ME, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GO BACK THROUGH IF WE COULD EACH ONE AND MAYBE JUST SPEND A MINUTE WITH YOU TELLING US KIND OF YOUR GUYS, YOUR VISION THAT YOU SAW BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SIMILAR, BUT SOME OF THESE ARTISTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IF WE COULD DO THAT. SURE, SURE. AND IT'S INTERESTING. SO WE SHORTLISTED 10 OR 12 ARTISTS PER LOCATION THAT WE SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY PANEL. AND ONE OF OUR GOALS IS WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU EITHER YOU THE COMMUNITY PANEL, WE DON'T WANT TO SAY, HERE'S TEN ARTISTS THAT ALL LOOK THE SAME, THAT DO THE SAME THING. IT'S NICE TO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF LIKE TYPOLOGIES AND STYLES BECAUSE WE MIGHT REALLY LIKE A SIMPLE DESIGN PATTERN AND FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING. AND WE COULD GRAB SIX ARTISTS THAT ALL DO SIMILAR WORK, BUT THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SORT OF AN INTERESTING CHOICES. AND SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT ARTISTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF PAST WORK THEY DO. SOME PEOPLE, ARTISTS DO THE SAME THING, SOME ARTISTS DO EVERYTHING THEY DO LOOKS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND WE WANTED TO TRY TO GIVE AT LEAST THE COMMUNITY PANEL TEN ARTISTS THAT HAD LOOKED DIFFERENT LOOKS AND FEELS. I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SEEING REFLECTED IN THE FINALISTS IS THAT. AND THE FINALISTS WE WERE LOOKING AT, IT'S NOT JUST ESTHETICS. WE'RE ALSO REALLY CONSIDERING THE MATERIALS THEY USE, THE SCALE OF WORK THEY COULD DELIVER BASED ON THE BUDGETS AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS FOR ARTISTS TO APPROACH THESE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE MEDIAN, ALL FOUR OF THESE ARTISTS, PRETTY DIFFERENT STYLES, THEY ARE FAIRLY COLORFUL. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE GOAL FOR THE MEDIUMS. WE WANT THINGS TO BE LIKE LANDMARKS. SO A, YOU KNOW, A CORRUGATED METAL RUSTED SCULPTURE IS GOING TO SORT OF DISAPPEAR THERE. I THINK WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING COLORFUL. I THINK THE COMMUNITY PANEL WAS AS WELL. SO IT'S SORT OF FOUR DIFFERENT APPROACHES. ANAISA FRANCO HAD A LOT OF LIGHT LIKE IT INCLUDED IN HER WORK. MARY CARTER TAUB HAD A LOT OF JUST SORT OF LIKE DIFFERENT SHAPES, PATTERNS, COLORS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE REALLY EYE CATCHING. THERE WERE COMMENTS BOTH IN COMMISSION, COMMUNITY PANEL, AND I THINK EVEN IN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ABOUT SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS DOLPHINS AND ANIMALS AND FIGURES, AND WE THOUGHT NATHAN MABRY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING INTERESTING WITH THE ORIGAMI SHAPES. AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE JUST TWEAKED ENOUGH THAT WE THOUGHT THEY WERE KIND OF INTERESTING BEYOND JUST A SORT OF A SORT OF A SHAPE ON A CORNER. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, BUT. NO, YOU DEFINITELY ARE. I, AND JUST TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, WHEN IT COMES TO TWO THINGS. ONE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEDIAN FOR SYMMETRY, SHOULD WE HAVE THE SAME ARTISTS DO EAST AND WEST? ARE YOU ENVISIONING OR ARE WE ENVISIONING PICKING TWO DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND HOPING THAT THEY GEL WELL TOGETHER? WE WILL BE ASKING EACH OF THESE ARTISTS TO GIVE US TWO CONCEPTS, OKAY, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO POTENTIALLY SAY WE LOVE WHAT CJ CHEN DID WITH THESE TWO CONNECTED PIECES, OR HAVE THE OPTION TO LIKE, HEY, WE REALLY LIKE NATHAN MABRY'S HERE AND ANAISA FRANCO'S THERE. OKAY, SO ALLOW US TO PICK TWO OR, YOU KNOW, ONE SET OR TWO SEPARATE. OKAY. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE OURSELVES AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS GROUP TO MAKE A DECISION. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND MY SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION WAS, THERE ARE TWO ARTISTS ON HERE THAT I SEE A REALLY GOOD FIT IN OTHER PLACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEM. THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY. SO THIS ALSO CAME INTO THE COMMUNITY PANEL. SO ARTISTS ACTUALLY APPLIED. THEY, THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR THE WHOLE POOL. THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO APPLY FOR INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS. SO THERE WERE SOME ARTISTS, IF I RECALL, THAT WE REALLY LIKED, LIKE, OH, THIS PERSON WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS LOCATION. IT WAS LIKE THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR THAT LOCATION. AND I THINK UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY WE SET THESE RFQS UP IS IF YOU DIDN'T APPLY FOR THE RFQ, IF YOU DIDN'T MISS THE DEADLINE, WE'D ASK LIKE, OH, HEY, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST SAW THIS, YOU KNOW, CAN I APPLY LATE? LIKE, NO, WE'RE SORRY. YOU CAN'T. [00:40:01] THERE WAS A TIME FRAME. WE PUT IT OUT THERE. SO IF ARTISTS DIDN'T APPLY FOR A THING, THEY WERE, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED. OKAY. TO REITERATE HOW MANY ARTISTS WE ENDED UP DOING THAT DAY? A LOT, A LOT. YEAH. I MEAN, WE, I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST, WHAT, 10 OR 12 ARTISTS PER LOCATION THAT WE SORT OF. SO THAT WAS A YEAH, THAT HAD COME UP. IT DEFINITELY CAME UP WHERE WE WERE LIKE, OH, THAT'LL LOOK COOL. YEAH. BUT. I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AND THINK, I MIGHT NOT LOVE IT THERE, BUT I'D REALLY LOVE IT HERE, UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECALL HOW MY HEAD, WHICH THEY APPLIED TO, BUT WE COULD GO BACK AND CHECK. SO IF YOU WERE LIKE, HEY, I REALLY LIKE KJ CHEN'S WORK FOR THIS LOCATION, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND THEN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ADD THEM INTO THAT, YOU CAN CERTAINLY. ULTIMATELY, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THOUGH RIGHT NOW. LIKE WE'RE ALL JUST IMAGINING BASED ON STUFF THEY HAVE. SO IT'S LIKE WE HAVE NO IDEA UNTIL, UNTIL WE GET. YEAH. AND HONESTLY, WE'RE PICKING THEM BASED ON PAST WORK, BASED ON EXPECTATIONS, HOW THEY'VE RESPONDED TO WORK IN THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WHICH ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS AND IN GLENDALE, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THAT WE GOT THREE CONCEPTS BACK FROM THREE ARTISTS WE REALLY LIKE, AND WE DIDN'T LIKE ANY OF THEM. AND THEY DIDN'T WORK FOR VARIOUS REASONS. PUBLIC WORKS COULDN'T WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND THEM. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S. I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THAT. USUALLY THERE'S ALWAYS 1 OR 2 THAT STAND OUT. I THINK WE TALKED WITH KELLY AND JACK, EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY PANEL PROCESS. THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARE THE COMMUNITY PANEL, ARE THEY GOING TO RESPOND TO THINGS? AND I'M LIKE, IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO WORK OUT. AND IT KIND OF DID. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY PANEL AS A GROUP KIND OF PRETTY QUICKLY SORTED THE TOP 4 OR 5. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO NARROW THAT DOWN TO 3 OR 4. I THINK PRETTY QUICKLY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY HANDS OFF. OUR JOB IS TO NARROW THAT LIST DOWN TO PEOPLE WE FEEL ARE QUALIFIED AND CAN DELIVER FOR THE CITY. AND THEN WE WERE, I MEAN, LIKE MY TEAM WAS, YOU ASKED QUESTIONS OR WHAT WE THOUGHT, BUT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS COMMUNITY PANEL DRIVEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M THROWING A LOT OUT THERE. NO, THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US. WE APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, WHO'S NEXT? I GUESS, SHOULD WE JUST KEEP ROLLING THROUGH THE NEXT TO THE NEXT ART LOCATION? YEAH. PERFECT. AND AGAIN, IT'S INTERESTING. CHAIRPERSON O'BRIEN-HERRERA IT'S WE AS A COMMUNITY PANEL, LIKE THERE WERE SOME DEFINITE FAVORITES. AND SO ARTISTS YOU LIKE, LIKE NATHAN MABRY WHO APPLIED FOR MULTIPLE. WE, WE PUT HIM IN FOR CONCEPTS FOR MULTIPLE. BECAUSE HIS WORK STOOD OUT AND THERE WERE DEFINITELY OTHER ARTISTS WHO WERE LIKE, OH, MAYBE THIS ONE OR MAYBE THAT ONE. BUT ASKED THE COMMUNITY PANEL KIND OF WEIGHED ALL THE OPTIONS. I THINK SOME OF THESE ARTISTS REALLY STOOD OUT. WILL NATZEL WAS SORT OF LIKE REALLY INTERESTING. IT WAS SORT OF A, ALMOST A DIFFERENT CHOICE IF I REMEMBER, BECAUSE HIS WORK IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF LIGHT DRIVEN WORK, A LOT OF LIGHT INSTALLATIONS. AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE STOOD OUT AS, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE EXIT SORT OF MONUMENTS. WELL, TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TOO, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER IS THAT FOR ME PARTICULAR. IN THE COMMUNITY AS IT HAS, WE HAVE NOW. A LOT OF IT IS PAINT, TILE, SCULPTURES, AND THAT THING. SO I HAD A REAL INTENT ON THERE BEING LIGHT, ESPECIALLY LIKE IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING THROUGH THERE AT NIGHT, LIKE YOU CAN STILL HAVE A LOT OF THIS GUY PARTICULAR HAD STRUCTURES THAT LIKE ANAISA FRANCO, BUT HE PUT LIGHTS IN IT SO THAT THAT WAS A, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT STUFF. WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PICK AND PUT THERE. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PIECES THAT ARE HAVE THE LIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY BURN OUT OR THEY'RE NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY? WHO COMES TO REPAIR THAT OR FIX IT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ME. JUST CALL ME, I'LL BE RIGHT OUT. NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND IT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PRETTY MUCH EVERY PROJECT WE DO, AND THAT WAS OUTLINED IN OUR ORIGINAL STRATEGIC PLAN. WHOEVER WE SELECT, WE WILL HAVE AND LEAVE THE CITY WITH A CONSERVATION MAINTENANCE REPORT WITH DETAILS OF IF IT'S A LIGHTING INSTALLATION, HOW THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL PROBABLY FALL ON PUBLIC WORKS, I WOULD IMAGINE, TO REPLACE LIGHTING, BUT THEY WILL HAVE A GUIDE AND PLAN OF LIKE HOW TO REPAIR, HOW TO FIX WHAT LIGHT BULBS TO INCLUDE. AND I THINK EVEN WITH, WE DISCUSSED LIKE, THERE'S LIKE A NATHAN MABRY, IT'S JUST A STEEL SCULPTURE. IT'LL STILL HAVE LIGHT. IT'LL BE INCLUDED LIKE, YOU KNOW, UPLIGHTING OR SO. [00:45:05] THAT'S DIFFERENT, LIKE THE UPLIGHTING VERSUS IT ACTUALLY BEING PART OF THE ARTWORK AND INSIDE INTERNAL BECAUSE THIS ARTIST THAT'S, WELL, NOT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT IF THEY, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE. YEAH. NO, AGAIN, SO WE WILL HAVE A CONSERVATION MAINTENANCE REPORT THAT WILL HAVE DETAILS OF LIKE, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO LET AN ARTIST INCLUDE SOME TECHNOLOGY WE CAN'T REPLACE, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS. BUT MOST OF THE LIGHTING INSTALLATIONS WE'VE WORKED ON IN THE PAST, WE DID A REALLY LARGE LIGHTING PORTAL IN WEST L.A. FOR DEVELOPER. WE WORK WITH STANDARD VISION, WHO'S A LOCAL COMPANY THAT DOES A LOT OF LIKE ALL THE GIANT LED BOARDS AND A LOT OF LIKE HIGH END, LIKE CUSTOM LIGHTING. THEY WERE THE ONES WHO BUILT IT, FABRICATED IT FOR THE ARTIST. AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE LOCAL. THEY'RE A BUSINESS THAT CAN THAT CAN BE CALLED TO FIX. AND THERE'S ALWAYS A 5% REQUIRED MAINTENANCE SET ASIDE, 5% OF THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT WILL BE SEQUESTERED AND SET ASIDE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER'S NECESSARY. THANK YOU. CAN WE GO? I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE MIGHT BE WILL. WILL NATZEL, YEAH. SO AS FAR AS HIS WORK GOES, HOW DOES THIS HOLD UP? DO WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF MAYBE SOME OF HIS OLDER WORK. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IN FIVE, TEN, 20 YEARS. NO, ALSO GREAT QUESTION. AND I THINK THAT IS WHEN WE GET THOSE CONCEPTS BACK, EVEN IN OUR RFPS, I CAN SHOW YOU PAST EXAMPLES LIKE WE HIGHLIGHT. AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE FOR US, KIM, WHO I THINK HAS BEEN DOWN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL, THE BORING LOGISTICS IS LIKE ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS FOR US. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN COMMITTEE PANEL. THERE WERE SOME THINGS PEOPLE REALLY LIKED, AND WE BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO HOLD UP. RIGHT. I THINK THERE WERE SOME GOOD OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND WE WERE LIKE, IT MIGHT BE A BAD OPTION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ELEMENTS TO BEACH SALT AIR THE FACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GET VARNISHED AND ANNUALLY AT A MINIMUM. SO I CAN'T ANSWER SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE A LARGE ITEM ON OUR RFP THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AND ARTIST SHOULD BE AWARE OF. AND THEN WHEN WE GET THOSE CONCEPTS BACK, THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND WOULD THESE REQUIRE CLEANING IN ORDER FOR THAT LIGHT TO LOOK AS NICE TODAY AS IT DOES NEXT YEAR? ITS GRADE DEPENDS. YEAH. POTENTIALLY YES. POTENTIALLY NO. OKAY. BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS. IT'S, I CAN'T. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE YET. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO THINK ABOUT. YOU EVER BEEN BY THE POST OFFICE? THEY GOT THAT THAT MONUMENT THERE. IT'S A, ANYWAY, THERE'S A SPOT BY THE REDONDO BEACH POST OFFICE THAT HAS A THERE'S A STRUCTURE THERE, AND I THINK THAT ONE'S LIT AND IT'S GOT LIKE GLASS OR PLEXIGLASS ELEMENTS. IT'S A SOMETHING TO TAKE A LOOK AT. SO BUT YEAH, ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY, I PROMISE YOU, WE'RE PLACING LIGHTS, FIXING IT. IT'S NOT JUST THE LIGHTING THINGS. IT'S THE SCULPTURES TOO. RIGHT. WHAT IS THE PAINT FINISH OF THESE? WHAT IS THE METAL? YOU KNOW, IS THIS GOING TO BE LIKE A WIND SHEAR ISSUE? AND YOU KNOW, THESE WE WILL DEFINITELY BE PAYING ATTENTION AND CALLING OUT CONCERNS AND LIKE EXPECTING THE ARTIST TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE LONG-TERM CONSERVATION MAINTENANCE ITEMS AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL. NONE OF US WANT TO DRIVE BY THIS IN TEN YEARS AND GO, OH GOSH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS JUST AS BEAUTIFUL. I PROMISE YOU, WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING, WE GET ASKED BY CLIENTS SOMETIMES FOR ALL KINDS OF CRAZY THINGS LIKE, OH, WE WANT TO DO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, WITH A WATER FEATURE AND LIKE, YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO A WATER FEATURE. AND WE CAN LIST THE REASONS WHY. RIGHT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T NEED TO GET INTO DETAILS, BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT WE ARE SUPER, SUPER FOCUSED ON. YEAH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE? OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THE NEXT SET OF ARTISTS? SO NEXT WOULD BE CROSSWALK. WE CAN STAY ON ALL FOUR. I THINK MAYBE GO BACK ONE. AGAIN, ALL FOUR OF THESE ARTISTS HAVE DONE GROUND PLANE WORK WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO US BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN PAINTING A WALL. THEY'VE ALL DONE CROSSWALKS, WHICH AGAIN, HAVE VERY UNIQUE I THINK ONE OF THE ARTISTS EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, I THINK PHOEBE NELSON TALKED ABOUT THE MATERIALITY SHE HAD TO USE. IT WAS A DIFFERENT, YOU CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T ROLL OUT THERE WITH LIKE BARE HOUSE PAINT. SO WE'D LIKE THAT ALL FOUR OF THESE ARTISTS HAD DONE THAT KIND OF WORK, HAD THAT KIND OF CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THEIR PROCESS. WE FELT DELIVERED SUCCESSFUL GROUND PLANE WORK WITH DIFFERENT STYLES. [00:50:06] SO THAT'S SORT OF LIKE WHY WE PUT THEM INTO THIS LIST. AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY PANEL, BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY THESE WORKS SPOKE TO THEM AS WELL. AND AGAIN, I THINK FOR DIFFERENT STYLES. HOPEFULLY WE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, PLEASE? SO YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT JUST USING HOUSE PAINT ON THE GROUND FOR THE CROSSWALKS. DO THE ARTISTS OFFER SOME TYPE OF GUARANTEE AS TO HOW LONG THEY THINK IT SHOULD LAST OR STILL LOOK DECENT? BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY COME BACK FOR TOUCH UPS. NO, THIS WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT WITH MARC FROM PUBLIC WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY PANEL, BECAUSE I THINK HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE, HE ACTUALLY GAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHAT A NORMAL CROSSWALK WOULD LAST. AND THEN WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PAINT TYPE AND MATERIALS FOR THOSE GROUND PLANES. AND FOR THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE A FIVE-YEAR LIFESPAN ON THE MATERIAL. SO IT'S REALLY MORE OF A MATERIAL GUARANTEE THAN NECESSARILY AN ARTIST GUARANTEE. SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER FIVE YEARS? JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CROSSWALK. WE'RE PROBABLY HERE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW LOOKING AT ANOTHER CROSSWALK. I THINK UNFORTUNATELY IT'S THE NATURE OF SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE. I THINK MARC GAVE US THE TRAFFIC COUNT. YOU KNOW IT WILL BE UP TO THE ARTISTS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESIGN THEIR MURAL WHERE TIRE TRAFFIC MINIMIZES THE DAMAGE AND HOPEFULLY THE MURAL. AGAIN, IT'S NOT REALLY A MURAL, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CALLING IT A MURAL. HOPEFULLY THE TRAFFIC MINIMIZES THE DAMAGE AND THE MURAL LASTS LONGER, BUT THAT'S REALLY A MATERIAL THING. AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS THAT ALL THE VEHICLES ARE DRIVING STRAIGHT ACROSS THE CROSSWALK, WHEREAS A LOT OF TIMES THE COLOR GETS SCUFFED AND THE PAINT KIND OF STARTS GETTING RELEASED FROM THE SURFACE. WHEN THE TIRES ARE TURNING. SO THIS ISN'T AN INTERSECTION WHERE THERE'S ANY TURNING. IT'S ALL FORWARD STRAIGHT MOTION. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE AS THE THE PAINT TO TO GO AWAY AS QUICKLY. POTENTIALLY, THOUGH IN A FEW YEARS IT MAY START TO LOOK A LITTLE DULL. BUT I THINK THIS LOCATION IS PROBABLY THE MOST IDEAL BECAUSE IT IS JUST STRAIGHT TRAFFIC, WHICH SHOULD LIMIT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WILL THIS BE A WIDER, SINCE THIS IS A WIDER CROSSING, THIS IS A BIKE PATH CROSSWALK. IS THAT RIGHT? SO SINCE THAT'S A WIDER CROSSWALK IN GENERAL, WILL THE ARTWORK BE WIDER OR WILL IT BE STILL CROSSWALK SIZE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT? I THINK WE I'M VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CONCEPTS WE COME BACK. I MEAN, BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THESE MARY CARTER DAUB BASICALLY CREATE A DESIGN THAT'S WIDER ON AN EXISTING CROSSWALK. THIS IS REALLY SORT OF LIKE POP CROSSWALK. PHOEBE NELSON'S WAS AN ENTIRE LIKE SQUARE. YOU CAN SEE JOEY ROSE'S HERE IS IT'S BASICALLY EXTENDING WAY BEYOND THE CROSSWALK. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN ANY RESTRICTIONS. SO CERTAINLY IF AN ARTIST WANTS TO DESIGN SOMETHING POTENTIALLY THAT'S LONGER STILL HAS THE NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT'S, HOW, IS THE LAY OF THE DAY? BRAINS, BRAINS SLOWLY WORKING. THE NECESSARY LIKE SIGNAGE DIRECTIONAL THAT NEEDS TO OUTLINE AN ACTUAL CROSSWALK. I WOULD GUESS IF AN ARTIST HAD LIKE A CROSSWALK DESIGN AND EXTENDED IT OUT AND WE LOVED IT THAT IT'S UP TO US. UP TO YOU, SO. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS COOLER IF WE GET MORE STRETCH OUT OF THAT. YEAH. INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING A CROSSWALK DESIGN LIKE MARY CARTER. YEAH, THAT'D BE COOL. IT'S A WIDER AREA. YEAH. AND IF THAT PART'S GOING TO GET WORN OUT, AND THEN WE GET TO KEEP THE COOL DESIGN ON THE SIDES, THAT'S LIKE. YEAH, WE WILL NOT RESTRICT THEM JUST TO A TEN BY TEN OR WHATEVER. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ARTIST FOR THE CROSSWALK? I'LL MOVE ON TO THE BENCHES. THE BENCHES WERE A LITTLE INTERESTING BECAUSE IT IS A SMALLER BUDGET PER BENCH AND SOME OF THE LARGER INSTALLATIONS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY WORK WITH SOME ARTISTS THAT HAVE NOT DONE SOME LARGER THINGS AND DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. SO WE WE DID REALLY WANT TO INCLUDE SOME LOCAL ARTISTS, SOME SOUTH BAY ARTISTS OF THE ARTISTS THAT APPLIED FOR THE PROJECT, THOUGH THERE WERE VERY FEW LIKE TRULY HYPER LOCAL ARTISTS THAT HAD DELIVERED LARGER SCALE WORKS. SO IT WAS HARDER, HARDER FOR US TO FIND ANYBODY FOR THOSE LARGE PIECES. [00:55:01] THESE BENCHES ALLOW US TO STILL KEEP SOME LOCAL FLAVOR. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO VERY LOCAL ARTISTS, ALL FIVE ARTISTS FROM CALIFORNIA. I MEAN, BASICALLY ALL FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE BUDGETS, TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE $8,000 PER BENCH AND ARTISTS CAN'T SPEND HALF THEIR BUDGET TRAVELING HERE TO INSTALL. SO TRY AGAIN, TRY TO FIND DIFFERENT LOOKS AND FEELS. WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO ONE ARTIST PER BENCH. IT CAN CERTAINLY BE A SITUATION WHERE WE LOVE ALEX CERRUTI'S DESIGNS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE HIM DO ALL FIVE BENCHES. BUT THAT FLEXIBILITY, IT WILL BE IN THE RFP TO THE ARTISTS AND TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION. THANK YOU. AND WHAT, SINCE NONE OF THESE REALLY SHOW US WHAT A BENCH WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH? IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING PAINTED ON THOSE BENCHES? IS IT GOING TO BE A 3D? PAINTED, MOSAIC TILE. EACH OF THESE ARTISTS HAS SHOWN SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME SMALLER SCULPTURAL WORK, SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO SORT OF STRETCH WHAT THEIR CONCEPTS CAN BE. BUT AGAIN, THEY ARE LIMITED TO $8,000 PER BENCH. SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF A BUDGET TO NECESSARILY DO ANY LIKE MAJOR FABRICATION. BUT WE COULD SEE ANYTHING FROM PAINTED TO TILE TO YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER LIKE ATTACHMENTS. OKAY. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? ARE THE ARTISTS. I JUST LIKE THAT THEY HAVE LOCAL ARTISTS THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING. WE REALLY DID TRY HARD TO INCLUDE AS MANY LOCAL ARTISTS AS WE COULD. THE ONE CHALLENGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO TAKE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, I'LL PICK ON EMILY TANAKA THAT'S DONE A BUNCH OF MURALS AND THEN GIVE THEM $100,000 BUDGET FOR A SCULPTURAL PIECE. AND WE HAVE NO, WE CAN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND WE'RE AS A FIRM, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES ON SMALL SCULPTURES TO GIVE ARTISTS THAT FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO DO, LIKE A PERMANENT SCULPTURAL WORK. WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET HERE. SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO HELP SOME OF SOME YOUNG EMERGING ARTISTS OR NOT EVEN YOUNG EMERGING ARTISTS OR ARTISTS WHO ARE LOOKING TO DO THEIR FIRST PUBLIC PERMANENT SCULPTURES, YOU KNOW, WITH FABRICATION RESOURCES. BUT LIKE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO HANDHOLD ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THIS LOCATION OPPORTUNITY, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND ARTISTS THAT ONE WERE AGAIN APPLYING FOR THIS LOCATION. THEY WERE PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO SORT OF SUPPORT AND ARTISTS THAT DID SOME SORT OF DIFFERENT WORK. SO ANISA FRANCO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER INSTALL OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I THINK THE PANEL REALLY LIKE MICKEY IWASAKI'S SORT OF ALMOST ARCHITECTURAL WORK. AND THEN SHABAZZ LARKIN WE WERE, I THINK, IF I RECOLLECT, WE WERE ALL SORT OF LIKE, WE REALLY LIKED THIS ARTIST'S WORK. IT HAD A MESSAGE. HE'S REALLY AN ARTIST. IT'S MORE A GALLERY MUSEUM THAN SOMEONE WHO DOES JUST DOES PUBLIC ART. IT'S REALLY A DIFFERENT PROFILE. BUT IT APPLIED FOR THIS HAD APPLIED FOR THIS LOCATION. AND AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETIMES WE ALL LIKE TO WORK, COULDN'T REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD BE. AND I THINK WE WERE REALLY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT MR. LARKIN WOULD CREATE FOR US. SO IWASAKI, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE COLORFUL WORK. THEIR WORK SEEMS TO NOT HAVE AS MUCH COLOR. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY. THAT'S JUST THE EXAMPLES THAT THEY SHOWED US. DUE TO THE ARTIST. THE ARTIST IS GOING TO BRING IT, RIGHT SO. IT'S, I MEAN, I THINK FOR SOME OF THE LANDMARKS, THE MEDIANS COLOR KEPT COMING UP. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, TRAFFIC IS FLYING BY. YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY NOT 50 MILES, 60 MILES AN HOUR. SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR BRIGHT LANDMARKS THAT PEOPLE WOULD SEE EVEN FROM A PASSING CAR. I THINK THIS AT THE LIBRARY CAN BE A QUIETER MOMENT. IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE. CAN YOU ACTUALLY FLIP TO MICKEY IWASAKI'S WORK? SORRY. COULD POTENTIALLY BE A FUNCTIONAL SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE BENCH. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAD A LOT OF THIS SORT OF LIKE THE ONE IN THE UPPER, MY UPPER RIGHT. A LOT OF THIS SORT OF LIKE LITTLE SHADE STRUCTURES AND BENCHES SORT OF FUNCTIONAL, SO I THINK WE THOUGHT THAT THIS COULD BE A QUIETER MOMENT AS PEOPLE ARE COMING IN OUT OF THE LIBRARY, SITTING DOWN READING A BOOK COULD BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SCULPTURE. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ON THE LIBRARY WAS. [01:00:01] LET ME SEE, WAS IT FRANCO? WHO'S THE ONE? WHO'S THE GALLERY SCULPTOR? SORRY. SHABAZZ. SHABAZZ. SHABAZZ. AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE SOMETHING. THIS IS REALLY FUN. WE'RE CONFIDENT THEY CAN PRODUCE OUTDOOR WORK. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME THINGS HERE ON THE STAIRS. SINCE SOME OUTDOOR WORK, I MEAN PERSONALLY I LOVE THESE SORT OF LIKE STONE QUARTZ THINGS WITH THE TEXT ON THEM. YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF HIS WORK HAD A REAL MEANING AND IT SAID SOMETHING VERSUS JUST SOMETHING BEING COLORFUL. AND I THINK, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS SORT OF A COULD POTENTIALLY BE A QUIETER MOMENT IN FRONT OF A MORE FOOT TRAFFIC LOCATION. I THINK THE COMMUNITY PANEL, WE LIKE THIS ARTIST. WE JUST, IT WASN'T EASY TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OR THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. BUT WE LIKE THE BODY OF WORK. THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHERE WE WERE JUST LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT HE DEFINITELY GETS A SHOT. YEAH, WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CONCEPT. YEAH, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. I WANTED TO GET A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT INTO WHAT YOU GUYS WERE THINKING AS YOU WERE LOOKING AT EACH OF THESE ARTISTS. SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, REALLY UNDERSTAND WHEN WE MAKE OUR VOTE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO ASK BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE WHOLE THING WE WERE WE'VE ALL BEEN HERE FOR BEFORE LEBASSE. AND WHEN IT CAME UP FOR THEM TO, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL IN MAKING SURE WE MASSAGED ALL THIS ALONG. SO SOME OF THOSE IDEAS OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S COHESIVE. THEY'VE BEEN DOING A DECENT JOB OF KEEPING US WITHIN THE SCOPE AND KIND OF GUIDING US. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT'S BEEN HELPFUL TAKING A LOT OF THAT STUFF OFF OF OUR PLATE. SO WE ZIP THROUGH THIS TO GET IT DONE, AND BEFORE YOUR KIDS. YEAH, YEAH. YOU HAVE A FEW YEARS. YEAH, WE GOT TIME. WE'RE. TRYING TO MOVE, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY, AS QUICK AS WE CAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME, WE CAN OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WE DO HAVE A REQUEST FROM SANDY. OKAY. HELLO. HI. MY NAME IS SANDY. GOOD EVENING. I MIGHT BE A LITTLE BEHIND THE BALL IN THE EIGHT BALL RIGHT NOW. I'M HEARING EVERYTHING. THE ARTIST ALREADY BEING CHOSEN. BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 68% OF THE RESPONDENTS OF OUR SURVEY THAT WE TOOK THE RESIDENTS WANTED FUNCTIONAL ART. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT SPENDING $200,000 ON A SCULPTURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MEDIAN. I WALK. I'M PART OF THE NRBBA AS WELL. NORTH REDONDO BEACH BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. I ORGANIZED THE ART WALK, THE ADDITION TO IT, AND I'VE WALKED ARTESIA WAY TOO MANY TIMES. I'M SORRY, BUT I MEAN, I LOVE THE SCULPTURES, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR MY WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDIAN. AS WELL AS THE WESTERN, THE WEST MONUMENT. THERE'S SO MUCH TREES AND, AND, AND NATURE, IT'S GOING TO BE JUST SO CLUTTERED. I COULDN'T EVEN SEE THE WESTERN MONUMENT BECAUSE IT WAS ALL OVERGROWN. SO I'M KIND OF THINKING I'M GOING TO SPEND $200,000 ON THIS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT UNLESS I'M DRIVING MY CAR. AND I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT FUNCTIONAL ART MEANT IT WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER. I'M ALWAYS FOR THE TWOFER, YOU KNOW, THE USEFULNESS OF IT AS WELL. BRING BEAUTY AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A, I DON'T KNOW, A BUFFER TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. I THINK I LOVE THE CROSSWALK IDEA. I DON'T LIKE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF IT, BUT IF WE COULD DO LIKE A HERMOSA BEACH TILE OR SOMETHING JUST TO SLOW DOWN THAT TRAFFIC, IT IS NOT ENJOYABLE TO WALK. AND I THINK OUR BUSINESSES ARE SUFFERING. BUT I'M GUESSING I'M LOOKING AT, I JUST THOUGHT WHEN WE DID THAT SURVEY THAT THAT WOULD GO TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS EVEN, I MEAN, LOOKED AT, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE EVEN DID IT. WE ALL MET AND WENT TO THE SURVEY AND PUSHED FOR IT, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING AT 1.2 MILES, I MEAN, TWO STRUCTURES, ARTESIA IS 1.2 MILES, TWO STRUCTURES IS GOING TO BE JUST SWALLOWED BY TREES AND EVERYTHING. AND I THINK THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT SPREAD THROUGHOUT SO WE CAN ENJOY OUR WALKS OR HAVE A STRUCTURE MAYBE IF THERE'S OPEN SPACES AND CORNERS OR SOMETHING, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE. I ALSO WAS WONDERING, UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE LOCAL ARTISTS, AS WELL AS WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A OF A PAINTED [01:05:03] BENCH? COULD WE NOT MAKE SURE IT'S A MOSAIC? MAYBE. AND THEN I DO LIKE THE LIGHTED STRUCTURES. I THINK WE DO NEED MORE LIGHT FOR SAFETY. WE LIKE TO GO TO THE RESTAURANTS AND I DON'T FEEL SAFE WITH AS MUCH LIGHT AS THERE. SO I GUESS THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS IF WE CAN INCORPORATE SAFETY INTO OUR ART AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE OR PUBLIC? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? GEORGETTE GANTNER. GEORGETTE GANTNER, DISTRICT TWO. TO ANSWER WHAT SANDY WAS SAYING. WHAT? WHAT? I THINK BECAUSE I'M ON THE COMMUNITY PANEL AND I'M THOROUGHLY ENJOYING IT. BUT BESIDE THAT THIS IS A START. THIS IS THE FIRST ART THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE. I KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL ANTICIPATED PROPOSING MORE MONEY OR TRYING TO GET IT FROM PUBLIC ART. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED THAT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD START. AND WHAT'S EXCITING ABOUT THIS IS IT'S STARTING. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE IN BEFORE THE END OF NEXT YEAR. I HOPE SO, BUT IT'S STARTING AND THIS IS A GREAT START. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS ABOUT ARTESIA THAT NEED TO BE MITIGATED AND IMPROVED AND SO FORTH. THE TRAFFIC SLOWING. BUT TO START WITH, THERE'S THE FARMERS MARKET AND THEN WE'RE DISCUSSING IT AND THERE'S JUST IN THE SCULPTURE IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY. I FIND IT EXCITING TOO, BUT THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS OF IT THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT IT'S ALSO HAPPENING ORGANICALLY. LIKE WE DON'T KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SCULPTURE GOING, WELL, WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHATEVER. THAT'S THE EXCITING PART. THAT'S THE DYNAMIC PART BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW AND IT WILL EVOLVE AND THINGS HAVE A WAY OF FIGURING THEMSELVES OUT WHEN IT'S RIGHT SOMEHOW. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON IT. SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP TOO. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD START. AND I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND MOVING AHEAD. SO GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE OR ZOOM COMMENTS? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? STEVE HAGAN, NORTH REDONDO RESIDENTS, AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW. TWO MEETINGS AGO IN D.1 SEPARATE SUBJECT, BUT IT SLIDES INTO THE CROSSWALKS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOTICING BLUE, RED AND WHAT DID THEY STAND FOR? WE'RE PAINTING THE STREET, ET CETERA. ET CETERA. AND A COUPLE PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED LEGALITIES THAT YOU CAN'T JUST GO AROUND PAINTING ROADS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S DONE THEIR HOMEWORK, BUT THERE WERE QUOTES ON CODE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I'D HATE TO DO SOMETHING, SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S POTENTIALLY NOT LEGAL. AND THEN SAFETY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS, AND GALS IS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE TOPIC. I HEAR ABOUT VEHICLES DRIVING AND I'M A LITTLE BIASED. I LIVE ON THE NEXT BLOCK FROM ARTESIA. SO THE DANGERS, THE MOTOR COPS, I HEAR THEM FLIPPING THEIR SIRENS ON 7:30 IN THE MORNING, 6:30 IN THE MORNING, SUNDAY MORNING. AND I STOPPED A GENTLEMAN. WHAT DID YOU GET PULLED OVER FOR. I MADE AN ILLEGAL U-TURN. WHAT DID THEY WRITE YOU UP FOR? MISSING FRONT PLATE. I GOT I GET WOKE UP LIKE AN ALARM CLOCK FOR THIS, SERIOUSLY? YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE SOUND. WE ALL HEAR THE SIRENS ACROSS REDONDO. IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIVE IN REDONDO, BUT ON ARTESIA, THE BLURPS AND, IT'S, IT'S GETTING REALLY ABSURD. BUT MY TRUE QUESTION IS, YOU'RE GOING TO SLOW ARTESIA COMING OFF TWO FREEWAYS TO ARTESIA, THE MAIN ARTERY TO OUR BEAUTIFUL OCEAN. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE. YOU WANT TO SLOW IT DOWN? SORRY. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? I HAVE OTHER HOMES I CAN MOVE TO BECAUSE NOW THERE'S VOTING. WE CAN GO THREE LEVELS UP FINE DINING, ROOFTOP, ETC. WE HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING, LOOKING ON PHONES. WE ALL KNOW THIS. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR EONS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET SOME OF THIS BRIGHT ARTWORK, ETC. SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC? WE HAVE LITTLE TEENY SIDEWALKS. IF I NEVER SHOWED YOU BEFORE, I WILL. REAL FAST. [01:10:07] THIS IS MY REMNANTS OF GETTING HIT BY AN EBIKE ON ARTESIA. NOTHING WE CAN DO. PLEASE KEEP SAFETY IN MIND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? NO, WE DO NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? MY NAME IS DENNIS RICHARDSON. I'M DISTRICT FIVE. I'M A BIKE RIDER. I RIDE AN E-BIKE AND I REALLY LOVE REDONDO BEACH FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE BIKE PATHS. AND THE CROSSWALK PATTERN IS WHAT COMES UP IN MY MIND. PAINTED LINES ARE VERY SLIPPERY WHEN THEY'RE WET. SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN I HAVE. I THINK A VERY COLORFUL CROSSWALK COULD BE VERY COOL, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE PLACEMENT OF THESE SCULPTURES, I THINK MIGHT BE BETTER PLACED IN A STANDALONE PLACE. I THINK, I THINK ART, WHEN IT'S DIFFERENT AND DOESN'T BLEND IN IS A VERY GOOD THING. THE BIKE PATH HAS A PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT TO ARTESIA. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A CITY OWNED PROPERTY OR NOT, BUT IT'D BE VERY COOL TO PUT ONE THERE. SO IT ISN'T ON ARTESIA IN THE MEDIAN SO PEOPLE COULD INTERACT WITH IT, MAYBE, AND IT WOULD STAND ALONE AND BE A MONUMENT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND WHEN YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE PAST IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO, ECOMMENTS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HI. APRIL. I'M UP IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND I JUST LIKE TO SAY GOOD WORK. LIKE, I KNOW THE PUBLIC'S VERY NEGATIVE A LOT OF TIME, BUT KNOW WE'RE HERE. WE'RE CLOSE TO THE END, PROBABLY THAN THE BEGINNING OF THIS. A LOT HAS HAPPENED TO GET EVERYONE HERE. SO YEAH, I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THESE ARTISTS COME UP WITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO, ECOMMENTS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, SO AT THIS TIME WE CAN GO INTO VOTING ON ARTISTS. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. JACK, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BEST WAY IS TO DO THIS? SHOULD WE START WITH THE MEDIAN AND GO THROUGH. SHOULD WE PULL THAT UP TO GO THROUGH THE FOUR. I BELIEVE IT WAS FOUR ARTISTS. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THEM OR DO YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THEM IN MASS? DO YOU WANT TO ACCEPT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO ACCEPT ALL THIS, BEEN RECOMMENDED TO US AND TO SEND THAT FORWARD. OKAY. JUST BE ACCEPTING THE COMMUNITY PANEL'S RECOMMENDATIONS. VERY GOOD. SO HOW ABOUT WE START WITH THE MEDIAN RECOMMENDATIONS? ARE THERE ANY ARTISTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXCLUDE FROM THIS, OR ARE WE HAPPY WITH ALL OF THE ARTISTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED? DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THAT OR DO WE? HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL? ARE THERE ANY STIPULATIONS OR ANYTHING WE WANT TO SEND TO COUNCIL WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE. STIPULATIONS. LIKE DO WE SAY THAT WE. YES. NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE. I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, WE GOT TIME TO THINK, THINK LIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING REALLY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR SUBTRACT ON THE WAY OUT? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO. IT IS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S SOMETHING. OR EVEN JUST MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION TO SEND TO THOSE ARTISTS. LIKE THERE WAS A MENTION MADE ABOUT WHAT'S PUT IN THE CROSSWALK AND SAFETY WISE, MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO USING SAFE MATERIALS. THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR LIGHTING. SO MAYBE WE JUST GIVE THAT AS AN IDEA TO THAT ARTIST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO CHAIR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE BENEFIT OF KNOWING THAT WE HAVE MET WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THE CITY, AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS ON SEPARATELY FROM OUR COMMITTEE PANEL MEETINGS AND TALK THROUGH EACH AND EVERY LOCATION. BOTH TEAM WAS ON THE CALL AS WELL. AND SO WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WILL, INCLUDING THE RFP. SO THEY KNOW SITE SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS ALREADY AS WELL AS THE LIGHTING. THERE WAS EVEN SOME LOCATIONS THAT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID, I REALLY WOULD PREFER NO LIGHTING HERE BECAUSE OF THIS INTERSECTION AND THAT. SO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EACH LOCATION INDIVIDUALLY. [01:15:01] SO WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN THE RFP AS ALREADY. OF COURSE, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TONIGHT, PLEASE FEEL FREE. BUT KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE SAFETY AND THE SITE LIMITATIONS, WE ALREADY WORKED ON THAT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. YEAH. JUST SO FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD APPROVE ESSENTIALLY THE SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY PANEL THAT WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THE CITY COUNCIL, IF THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS, WILL THEN HAVE SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSALS BY THOSE ARTISTS AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION. CORRECT, THE ONLY CHANGE THERE IS IT'LL GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PANEL FIRST AND THEN COME TO YOU GUYS WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF THEIR ARTIST SELECTION. RIGHT OUT OF THE PROPOSAL. AND THERE WOULD STILL BE LIKELY MULTIPLE ARTISTS SUGGESTED BY THE COMMUNITY PANEL, OR WILL THEY BE NARROWING IT DOWN TO ONE? THE GOAL WOULD BE FOR THEM TO NARROW IT DOWN TO THEIR ONE. YEAH. WELL, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I BIG THOUGHT THAT COMES INTO MY MIND IS BACK TO SORT OF WHAT I SAID ON THAT FIRST PART ABOUT HAVING THERE BE CONTINUITY BETWEEN, BETWEEN THESE. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT IT'S NOT A STIPULATION, BUT I GUESS A CONSIDERATION THAT, THAT I WOULD THROW OUT IN PARTICULAR IS THAT MEDIAN AND THE MONUMENT, THOSE BEING COHESIVE REALLY FEELS VALUABLE TO ME. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SAVINGS AS WELL THAT CAN POTENTIALLY BE REALIZED WHEN YOU USE ONE ARTIST FOR, FOR ALL OF THOSE. BUT WHETHER THAT MEANS SELECTING ONE ARTIST OR HAVING DIALOG BETWEEN THE TWO ARTISTS, THOSE TWO IN PARTICULAR, FEELING COHESIVE WOULD SEEM TO BRING A BIG VALUE. I THINK THE BENCH IS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE SCULPTURE, YOU KNOW, FEEL CAN FEEL A BIT MORE INDEPENDENT TO ME, BUT COHESIVENESS ON THOSE TWO INSTALLATIONS WOULD FEEL, WOULD FEEL LIKE A, LIKE A BIG VALUE ADD. I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I AGREE AND I WANT THERE TO BE SOME CONTINUITY, BUT IF THE COMMUNITY PANEL PICKS TWO DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND THEY DON'T THEN MESH WELL. AND I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THIS, BUT DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR THE ABILITY TO SAY NO? AND THEN THAT GOES UP TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN THEY CAN EITHER AGREE WITH US OR DISAGREE WITH US, AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND GO BACK TO THE ARTISTS AND SAY, COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR. AND WHILE I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE, BUT PART OF THE COMMUNITY PANEL ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE IN NORTH REDONDO. SO WHILE THEY MIGHT LOVE ART, LIKE IT'S, I FEEL LIKE IT REALLY AFFECTS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NORTH REDONDO WHO ARE DRIVING ARTESIA MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. YEAH. SO I KIND OF HAVE A TWO PART RESPONSE FOR YOU. SO WHEN WE DO FOR THE MEDIANS AND THE MONUMENTS LOCATIONS, AND BEAU PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE ARTISTS WILL BE REQUESTED TO SUBMIT TO. SO TWO VERSIONS OR TWO SEPARATE SORRY. THEY WILL BE REQUESTED TO SUBMIT FOR BOTH LOCATIONS IN THEIR SINGLE PROPOSAL. AND FROM THERE WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSISTENCY, WE WANT THIS ARTIST TO BE FOR BOTH LOCATIONS OR WE LIKE THIS LOCATION HERE WITH THIS ARTIST. AND OVER HERE, WE'D LIKE IT WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARTIST, BUT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO MIX AND MATCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I THINK, COMMISSIONER GOLD, I THINK I CAN TRY TO ANSWER WHAT YOU'RE REALLY GETTING TO IS THE COMMUNITY PANEL WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHO THEY THINK IS THE BEST CONCEPT FINALIST OPTION. THERE ARE TWO COMMISSIONERS FROM THIS COMMISSION ON THE COMMUNITY PANEL. WHEN I, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE ME COMING BACK AND PRESENTING LIKE WHAT THE FINALISTS, THE COMMUNITY PANEL SELECTED THAT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE WORKING THROUGH OTHER COMMISSIONS. IT WILL BE YOUR COMMISSION'S DECISION THEN THAN TO EITHER AGREE. MY GUESS IS THERE WILL PROBABLY BE DISCUSSION OF HEY, I KNOW YOU ARE SAYING THIS ARTIST IS A FINALIST, BUT WE REALLY LIKE THIS CONCEPT. MY GUESS IS THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF ARE WE GOING TO. DO WE REALLY LIKE THESE TWO CONCEPTS? WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS PAIR BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUITY OR WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THESE, BUT THAT WILL. THE FINAL ARTISTS. THE FINAL CONCEPTS THAT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL WILL BE YOUR COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. I'M TRYING TO MAKE CIRCLING, BUT THAT'S, IT'S YOUR, IT'LL BE YOUR DECISION TO EITHER VET OR APPROVE THE COMMUNITY PANELS OR CHANGE. BUT THAT THAT'LL BE YOUR COMMISSION'S DECISION. [01:20:01] CAN I ASK? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. SO IF THERE'S FOUR ARTISTS, SAY FROM ONE PARTICULAR AREA YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR YOU. THAT GOES FOR US, NOT FOR YOU, I APOLOGIZE. COLLECTIVE YOU. AND THEN YOU GUYS AS A PANEL ARE GOING TO DECIDE ON ONE OF THOSE AND BRING THAT BACK TO US. IS THAT RIGHT? THE COMMUNITY PANEL WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE FINALISTS. JUST ONE. WE WILL SHARE ALL THE FINAL CONCEPTS WITH THE COMMISSION. OKAY. SHARE, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PANEL'S RECOMMENDATION. HERE'S WHY. WE WILL PROBABLY WEIGH IN STRATEGICALLY. WHY WE THINK OR WHY WE THINK OTHER ONES LIKE, HEY, THIS MIGHT LOOK GREAT, BUT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT MATERIAL CONCERNED ABOUT DOESN'T SEEM REALISTIC FOR THE BUDGET, WHATEVER. WE'LL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GIVE OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION WHY THAT ALSO MAKES SENSE. AND THEN WE'LL BE UP TO THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. OKAY. CAN I JUST SAY, BUT THAT GOES TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION. SO I JUST WANT TO GET THAT CLARIFIED TOO. IT'S, WE PRESENT IT TO THEM, BUT THEY HAVE THE. SO IT'S NOT US. I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION. I THINK WE ALL PROBABLY HAVE, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY, ONE THAT WE LOVE, OR MAYBE TWO THAT WE LOVE IN EACH AREA. AND YOU MIGHT COME BACK TO, THEY MIGHT GET BACK TO US AND SAY, IT'S NOT THAT ONE, IT'S THIS ARTIST INSTEAD. AND SO WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION. SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I WAS WONDERING, WILL IT, WILL YOU COME BACK WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ARTISTS IN EACH AREA WITH THEIR PROPOSED WORK ON THE COMMISSION, SHOULD SEE ALL THE FINAL CONCEPTS. OKAY. AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE THIS MEETING. SO YOU HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT. OKAY. AND THEN DISCUSS AND THEN PICK A FINALIST. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S. YES, NO THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH ANY OF THE ARTISTS OR LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN? SO DO WE JUST WANT TO VOTE TO SEND THIS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THEN? OKAY. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO FORWARD LEBASSE'S PRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR THE ARTESIA PROJECT? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY, NEXT WE MOVE ON TO A PRESENTATION BY RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION INTRODUCING A PROPOSAL FOR STREET PAVEMENT CROSSWALK ART IN RIVIERA VILLAGE WITH A POSSIBLE DISCUSSION. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PETER ALBEE. I REPRESENT THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE WITH ALEXANDRA SOTO, WHO HAS ALSO BEEN APPOINTED RECENTLY AS A PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSIONER OF REDONDO BEACH UNDER HER OTHER NAME, ALEXANDRA DOMINGUEZ. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I AM A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF REDONDO BEACH. I SERVED ON THE SOUTH COAST BOTANIC GARDEN BOARD FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS. ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS CHAIR. AND I'VE ALSO BEEN APPOINTED TO THREE DIFFERENT COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND SERVED ON ALL THREE OF THOSE COMMISSIONS. AND I REALIZE NOW THAT THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME I'M ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM, AND THAT I MAY OWE SOME PEOPLE AN APOLOGY AFTER ALL THAT TIME. I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TODAY AS A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, AND THE PRESENTATION WAS SENT TO REDONDO BEACH, AND IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE REDONDO BEACH EMAIL SYSTEM AND PROPERLY DEEMED ENTIRELY FULL OF SPAM AND FILED WHERE NO ONE WOULD SEE IT AGAIN. BUT IT WAS DUG OUT AND IT IS HERE TODAY. BUT IF AT ANY TIME YOU THINK I'M SPAMMING YOU, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE. AS A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. ALEXANDRA AND I ARE ON A BEAUTIFICATION SUBCOMMITTEE, AND WE'RE BOTH NEW MEMBERS OF THE RIVIERA ASSOCIATION. AND AS PART OF THE BEAUTIFICATION SUBCOMMITTEE, WE WERE TASKED WITH A POTENTIAL PROJECT FOR ASPHALT ART. AND IT KIND OF DOVETAILS NICELY INTO WHAT WAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TODAY. CURRENTLY IT IS A NEW PROJECT. IT'S, WE'RE CALLING IT A FOUNDATIONAL STAGE. WE'RE REALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT IT IS FUNDED. THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION DOES HAVE SOME FUNDS, SO IT'LL BE SELF-FUNDING. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, ANY PUBLIC FUNDS. BUT WE DO WANT TO DO THE PROJECT ALONG WITH THE, THIS COMMISSION. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST DO THE WHOLE THING ON OUR OWN. SO WE'RE HOPING TO ENGAGE THE COMMISSION IN DIFFERENT LEVELS OF INVOLVEMENT, WHATEVER WE CAN BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, [01:25:06] YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, BOTH WITH THE CITY AND WITH ASPHALT ART. SO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GIVEN AS A POTENTIAL EXAMPLE. AND I'M GUESSING IT'S JUST A PHOTOSHOP OF THE INTERSECTION OF CASA DE PLAYA AND CATALINA WITH THE RIVIERA LOGO IN IT. IT'S KIND OF NICE, IF YOU LIKE. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO REALLY TALK BAD ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GIVEN AS AS A POTENTIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WAS THINKING ABOUT AT THE TIME WHEN SOMEBODY HAD PHOTOSHOP OPEN, I GUESS. IT'S NOT BAD. NEXT SLIDE. AT, AT THE SAME TIME, I NOTICED THIS FROM THE DAILY BREEZE. THIS, AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE, IS THE SAN PEDRO CROSSWALK ART. AND IT HAS OBVIOUSLY THE FISH THEME FOR SAN PEDRO AND I THINK IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I KIND OF LIKE THAT. SO I GOT TO THINKING MAYBE INSTEAD OF A CENTER LOGO, MAYBE WE DO CROSSWALK ART. AND SO I HAD COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF WHAT MIGHT BE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHAT WHAT WE MIGHT THEME SOMETHING IN THE VILLAGE. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, COASTAL THEMES, RIGHT. SO MAYBE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE REPRESENTATION REPRESENTATIVE OF THE VILLAGE OF THE BEACH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES DONE BY AN ARTIST WITH ABOUT AS MINIMAL HUMAN INTERVENTION AS I POSSIBLY COULD. BASICALLY ONE SENTENCE DESCRIPTIONS INTO GEMINI AND THIS IS WHAT IT CAME UP WITH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I ASKED IT TO DO TO CHANGE THAT TOP CROSSWALK IN THE PRIOR PICTURE TO APPEAR WITH A COUPLE FISHERMEN AND A PELICAN. AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING IDEA FOR A CROSSWALK. IT'S LINED. IT SHOWS YOU WHERE YOU CROSS. IT'S GOT THE OCEAN ON BOTH SIDES. I KIND OF LIKE IT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN MY PERSONAL FAVORITE WAS UNDERWATER ON A SCUBA DIVER. SO I ASKED YOU TO DO AN UNDERWATER SCENE AND THIS IS WHAT CAME UP WITH. AND IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN DIVING, THIS IS REALLY CLOSE TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE UNDERWATER OFF OUR CHANNEL ISLANDS HERE. IT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE THAT. IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD. SO I KIND OF LIKE THAT ONE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN SAILBOATS, OF COURSE REDONDO HAS A LOT OF SAILBOATS. NEXT SLIDE. AND A BEACH SCENE. YOU KNOW MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD WORK. SO YOU GET THE IDEA OF A COUPLE THEMES, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THEMES. I ASK GEMINI, COULD YOU DO LIKE A SURFER'S THEME? AND IT SAID, I THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH. SO IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO. AND THAT'S A TRUE STORY. IT DIDN'T DO IT. BUT THEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF SCALE. WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS AND A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IN THE VILLAGE. SO THE SCALE COULD BE FROM A SINGLE CROSSWALK OR INTERSECTION TO PERHAPS THIS THEME CARRIED THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE. NOW, I KNOW THAT THE CURRENT FUNDING FOR RVA CAN PROBABLY HANDLE, BASED ON AN EARLY ESTIMATE, ONE, MAYBE TWO CROSSWALKS, MAYBE ONE CENTER INTERSECTION. THAT'S ABOUT IT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE THEME CAN'T BE CARRIED INTO THE FUTURE. OR PERHAPS IF ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS MADE AVAILABLE FROM SOME MEANS, MAYBE MORE OF THE CROSSWALKS COULD BE DONE. BUT I COULD SEE THE VILLAGE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO GO FROM SECTION TO SECTION IN THE VILLAGE JUST TO SEE THE CROSSWALKS, TO BRING THEM. THE SAME THING WITH ARTESIA, RIGHT? IT'S TO BRING THEM ALONG AND, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE WHOLE CORRIDOR. SO IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH AND YOU PROBABLY JUST HEARD. SO THAT MIGHT BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE ON COMMISSIONS AND WITH THE BOARD OF THE GARDEN, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK BIG. I ALWAYS THINK WHAT'S, WHAT COULD WE DO IN THE LIMIT? AND THEN YOU SCALE IT DOWN BASED UPON ABILITIES, FUNDS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO LET'S SEE, WHERE AM I ON THE NEXT SLIDE? HERE'S A MAP I DID OF THE VILLAGE. THIS IS ROUGHLY THE VILLAGE. IN YELLOW I OUTLINED SOME OF THE MAJOR CROSSWALKS. THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. AND I ALSO OUTLINED TO PUT AN L FOR LOGO, BUT IT'S FOR THE CENTER ART. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT COME TO MIND. THAT COULD BE THE ENTRANCES TO THE VILLAGE AND THE EXITS THAT COULD HAVE THE ARTWORK. IT COULD BE IN THE CENTER. THERE'S A COUPLE PLACES THAT YOU MIGHT CALL THE CENTER OF THE VILLAGE THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE ART WALK, ART ON CROSSWALKS. PERHAPS THE TRIANGLE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE TRIANGLE PARKING, THAT COULD BE AN AREA. WE DON'T KNOW. THESE ARE JUST CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THESE ARE CONCEPTS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE COMMISSION. NOW NEXT SLIDE FROM INVESTIGATING THIS. I'VE LEARNED A LOT. AND YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING I THOUGHT, OKAY, WE JUST PAINT THE LOGO IN THE CROSSWALK. YOU KNOW, WE'RE DONE, RIGHT? 20K, 30K AND IT'S OVER. [01:30:04] BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DECISIONS IN BETWEEN AND REDONDO BEACH THE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN GUIDING ME, ALTHOUGH THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN ARTESIA BECAUSE IT'S SELF-FUNDED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S 100% SURE OF THIS PROCESS VERSUS THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH NOW, BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH. JUST LOOKING AT MATERIALS, THE DECISION OF MATERIALS, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT BEING AN ENGINEER COMES AFTER YOU CHOOSE THE ARTWORK, BUT IT PROBABLY DOESN'T. IT PROBABLY COMES BEFORE YOU CHOOSE THE ARTWORK, BECAUSE THE MATERIALS DICTATE WHAT KIND OF ARTWORK YOU CAN HAVE AND HOW LONG DO YOU WANT THE CROSSWALK TO LAST? THE TOP MATERIAL, WATERBORNE OR EPOXY OR ACRYLIC PAINTS MIGHT LAST TWO YEARS. THAT'S AN AVERAGE NUMBER. IT PROBABLY DEPENDS, BUT IT CAN BE SUPER COLORFUL. IT CAN BE LIKE AN ARTIST'S CONCEPTION, A PAINTING. TO THE BOTTOM ONE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DO A LOT OF CROSSWALKS NOW IT COULD LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS. BUT MAYBE IT'S MORE OF ABSTRACT ARTS MAYBE IT'S JUST PATTERNS ON SIDEWALK. SO WHAT DO WE WANT? WHAT DO WE WANT TO FUND SOMETHING THAT'S SHORT-TERM PROOF OF CONCEPT, PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO GO AND REPAINT EVERY SO OFTEN OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LAST FOR A LONG TIME. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, I'VE LEARNED THAT SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION WORK IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO YOU MIGHT PICK THE BEST INTERSECTION TO FIND OUT THAT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, THAT INTERSECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE ANYMORE. AND IN FACT, THAT INCLUDES THE INTERSECTION THAT I SHOWED AT THE BEGINNING. I THINK, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONCEPT TO REDO SOME OF CATALINA AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IT COULD BE IN ABOUT A FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS, BUT IT'S NOT THE TEN PLUS YEAR TIME FRAME THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT. SO, THESE KIND OF DECISIONS HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. SO A SIMPLE PROJECT IS TURNING INTO A WHOLE SERIES OF SNOWBALLING DECISIONS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY USE SOME SUPPORT WITH. JUST A COMMENT ON ASPHALT ART. THE CITY, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ANDREW WINJE. IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME? ANDREW SENT ME A LINK TO A FANTASTIC SITE ON ASPHALT ART. IT'S BY THE BLOOMBERG PHILANTHROPIES GROUP, AND I THINK THE FULL URL IS ASPHALTART.BLOOMBERG.ORG. AND THAT WEBSITE IS AMAZING. IT HAS HUNDREDS OF EXAMPLES OF ASPHALT ART THAT THE BLOOMBERG PHILANTHROPIES HAVE FUNDED THROUGH VARIOUS GRANTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE OPEN FOR ANY GRANT REQUESTS AT THIS TIME, BUT IF THEY ARE, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO PROBABLY PUT ONE IN. I THINK THERE WAS ONE GRANTED IN IN LONG BEACH THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET. BUT THAT WEBSITE ALSO EXPLAINS EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ASPHALT ART. IT ANSWERS QUESTIONS I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I HAD. IT TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. AND IT SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT BLOOMBERG, IN AN UNOFFICIAL SURVEY HAS FOUND THAT THAT ASPHALT ART IN THE SURVEYED 20 LOCATIONS THEY DID REDUCES TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS BETWEEN CARS, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES BY 50%. THAT'S EXTRAORDINARY. AND IF THAT IS, IF THAT STATISTIC IS RELIABLE AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW SCIENTIFIC IT IS, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE RELIABLE. THAT'S ALMOST AN ARGUMENT IN AND OF ITSELF TO HAVE ASPHALT ART. IT THROTTLES THE TRAFFIC, PEOPLE DRIVE SLOWER AND PEOPLE PAY MORE ATTENTION. IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY FOUND OUT. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF ARTWORK THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE ALL AROUND THE WORLD JUST BROWSE THAT WEBSITE AND JUST CHECK IT OUT. I'VE ONLY TOUCHED THE SURFACE OF THAT WEBSITE, BUT IT IS PRETTY GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO LAST CHART. IN SUMMARY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE COMMISSION. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS JUST AN INTRODUCTION. WE HAVE THIS PROJECT GOING ON. WE WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT OTHER THAN SAYING THAT THIS IS JUST SPAM THAT I'M PRESENTING, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE COMMISSION FEEDBACK. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT DOING ART IN THE VILLAGE? WHAT KIND OF ART CENTER ART LOGO? DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING A THEME THAT'S PROBABLY 100 DIFFERENT THEMES THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, OPEN, OPEN IT UP TO WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN IT UP COMPLETELY TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIVATELY FUNDED THROUGH THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION, BUT WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AT SOME LEVEL, AND THAT INCLUDES THIS THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION. WE ALSO DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE STEPS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DO THIS THROUGH THE CITY. AND I THINK THIS COMMISSION PROBABLY KNOWS BETTER THAN US WHO WE NEED TO TALK TO. WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BACKWARDS. WE HAVE FUNDING FOR IT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ART AND WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT IDEA THAT WE WANT TO DO UNLESS WE DID THE RIVIERA LOGO, WHICH IS WHAT WAS HANDED TO US INITIALLY. SO MAYBE CENTER ART IS BETTER THAN CROSSWALK. [01:35:06] I DON'T KNOW. AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION AND FROM ANYBODY ELSE. I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. AND OF COURSE, AS THIS PROGRESSES, WE WILL KEEP THE COMMISSION INFORMED OF THE VARIOUS CRITICAL STAGES WHERE WE ARE. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM YOU, JACK, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT? NO IDEA. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY CROSSWALK ART YET. WE'RE JUST STARTING ON THIS. OKAY. HOWEVER, ANDY WINJE AT PUBLIC WORKS APPARENTLY HAS MORE INFORMATION IN IT THAN WE KNEW. AND RYAN LIU, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS REGARDING METHODOLOGIES THAT ENHANCE SAFETY. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD PROBABLY GO TO PEOPLE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN ME, BUT I WILL ASK WHAT THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP WOULD BE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND SEE IF I CAN GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. BY THE WAY, ON THAT BLOOMBERG WEBSITE, THERE'S ALSO A WHOLE SECTION ON WHAT TO SAY TO A CITY, CITY MANAGER AND CITY ENGINEER WHO ARE RELUCTANT TO DO SO. I LOVE THAT. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. IT MIGHT EVEN BE ONE OF THE STEPS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL OUT IN THE OPEN. DON'T YOU THINK THAT HELPS SMOOTH THE WAY? SO YES, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT'S AN IDEA. YEAH. RECEIVE AND FILE. YEAH, RECEIVE AND FILE. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. CAN I? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER IT, WE WANT TO PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING ALSO FOR THE NEXT AGENDA. WELL YOU ALSO IF YOU'RE DOING THIS YOU NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS? JOAN IRVINE, DISTRICT ONE. LOVE THE CONCEPT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS ISN'T THERE A STUDY THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT WHAT THE VILLAGE IS GOING TO BE LIKE? I THOUGHT WE HAD LIKE A $1.8 MILLION GRANT TO BE EVALUATING RIVIERA VILLAGE. AND IS THIS GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH. THAT'S MY. OTHERWISE, I MEAN, I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ONLINE OR ECOMMENTS? THERE ARE NOT. I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT PROCEDURE. IS THIS THE PROPER WAY? I MEAN, IT'S GREAT. HE'S DONE ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THERE'S IDEAS AND IT'S COLORFUL AND ALL THAT, BUT RIVIERA VILLAGE ISN'T SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER PARTS OF REDONDO BEACH IF HE'S ASKING FOR FUNDING SOME FUNDING, BUT HE'S MOSTLY FUNDING. WHAT'S THAT? WHAT THAT SAYS TO ME I COULD BE WRONG IS THAT THEY'LL FUND AND THEY'LL DO IT. IT'S LIKE, SHOULDN'T IT ALL COME THROUGH YOU? SHOULD THE PROCEDURE BE THE SAME? THE PROCEDURE SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR ALL PARTS OF REDONDO BEACH. SO IF THIS GENTLEMAN HAS IDEAS AND THEY'RE WONDERFUL, I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, PEOPLE WOULD COME TO US AND THEY WOULD HAVE IDEAS AND THEY WOULD SAY, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WOULD STILL COME AND THEY SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IT'S BASICALLY UP TO THEM. THIS IS ALL PUBLIC. SO THAT MEANS IT SHOULD, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, FILTER THROUGH YOU GUYS AND GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCEDURE. WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH IDEAS AND SO FORTH, BUT NOTHING SHOULD BE DECIDED OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. AND THAT'S MY IMPRESSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I KIND OF HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THAT. CAN I ASK YOU, JACK? YOU COULD TRY. AS FAR AS THAT GOES, CULTURAL ARTS WISE, SHOULD WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, OR SHOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT GETS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO SEND TO COUNCIL? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY PURVIEW OF THIS BODY OVER ASPHALT ART. OKAY. IT HASN'T COME UP YET, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL CITY OFFICIALS THAT RECOMMENDED IT BE BROUGHT HERE FIRST. OKAY. INCLUDING BRAD WALLER, COUNCILMAN FOR DISTRICT ONE. YEAH. SO THEY WANT US, OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT YOUR INPUT. IT'S WHETHER WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO SAY YAY OR NAY TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE'RE AN ADVISORY BODY. TO ME, YOU ARE AN ADVISORY BODY. SO YOU CAN ALWAYS SEND YOUR OPINIONS IN THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE ON WHETHER IT'S A STRATEGIC PLAN [01:40:07] OR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO THIS COULD WE COULD TAKE THIS AS JUST AN IDEA, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THE COOL THING ABOUT IT IS THERE'S MONEY ALREADY, WHICH IS MY FAVORITE THING. AND THEN SO WE JUST BASICALLY TAKE AN IDEA, WE TALK ABOUT IT, PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S STILL WITHIN LINE OF WHAT OUR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN YOUR WORK PLAN. WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF I SAID OR ONE OF US CAME UP WITH AN IDEA FOR A CONCERT, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE MONEY FOR IT. YEAH, AND THERE COULD ALSO BE A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP. OR IF THEY WISH TO CONTROL THEIR OWN MONEY IN THEIR OWN WAY. YEAH. THIS IS SIMPLY SEEKING A KNOWLEDGEABLE BODY'S ADVICE. SO CAN WE GET SOME MORE INFORMATION THEN? AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE IT AGENDIZED SO IT DOESN'T FALL THROUGH? YES. OKAY. YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST STAY IN THE LOOP. AS THEY CONTINUE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND AN IDEA FOR CONCEPTS. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THOSE PRESENTED AGAIN. AND MAYBE OUR INPUT GIVEN ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT A LITTLE HELP FIGURING OUT WHICH DIRECTION TO GO, WHICH MAYBE WOULD BE COHESIVE WITH THE ART THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING ON THE ESPLANADE. I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO KEEP THINGS ALL TOGETHER. NOT THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE A SAY IN HOW YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GIVE OUR OPINION AND FEEDBACK AS TO THEIR IDEAS. YES, EXCEPT A GOOD VALID POINT IS THAT IT IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO THEY COULD NOT JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRIVATELY FUNDED, THEY CAN'T JUST GO AND PAINT ON THE CROSSWALKS BECAUSE THAT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY, NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. YEAH. FOR SURE. YEAH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO. THE WAY I'M THINKING OF IT IS WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BE A SORT OF LEBASSE THING ON THEIR SIDE OF TOWN IS WE GET TO HELP OUT ON HELPING THEM SPEND THEIR MONEY. WELL, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO NEED TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT MATERIALS. AND WE'RE DOING THAT ALREADY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. AND HE'S ALREADY DONE A LOT OF LEGWORK FOR US ANYWAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE STUFF HE SHOWED US TONIGHT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, AND THEN WE GET TO CROSS POLLINATE AND DO THE SAME THING ON THAT SIDE. YEAH. WOULD THE COMMISSION GET A FEE? NO. YOUR FEE IS HERE WITH SHAKING HANDS. GOOD JOB. THAT'S IT. WE WILL ASK. WE'LL ASK WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOU TO DO, BECAUSE THEY CAN GIVE YOU DIRECTION FOR PROJECTS IN THE SAME WAY THEY DID THE SPLASH WALL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DIRECT THEM TO WORK WITH THE RIVIERA VILLAGE ASSOCIATION IF THEY WANT THAT. YEAH. YES. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO AFTER WE RECEIVE AND FILE THIS, CAN WE PUT UNDER K JUST A SPECIAL NOTE TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR THEIR DIRECTION ON RIVIERA VILLAGE'S PROPOSED CROSSWALK PLAN AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO. I GUESS WE NEED A BETTER ANSWER IF THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO ANY OF THIS. OKAY. I GUESS THAT IS OUR QUESTION TO YOU THEN. WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ASK COUNCIL TO GIVE US GUIDANCE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PROJECT? AND JUST TO BE COMPLETELY FORWARD, BRAD WALL OR COUNCIL MEMBER WALLER IS MY OFFICE MATE AND MY BUSINESS PARTNER, AND BRAD IS THOROUGHLY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT HE HASN'T SEEN, AND NOTHING THAT I'VE SAID TONIGHT THAT HE HASN'T ALREADY HEARD. SO IT IS WITH HIS ADVICE AS A BUSINESS PARTNER, AS WELL AS A PRIOR BOARD MEMBER OF THE RIVIERA VILLAGE BOARD AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I GET AND RECEIVE YOUR APPROVAL FOR WHATEVER WE DO. YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS CITIZENS. REDONDO BEACH EVEN IF IT IS PRIVATELY FUNDED AND IT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AS PART OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. SO IT IS OUR INTENT TO, AT ANY DECISION STAGE THAT MIGHT REQUIRE YOUR INPUT TO BRING IT FORWARD IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION. BRAD MENTIONED IT MIGHT JUST BE CONSENT CALENDAR ADDITION TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE HE'S NOT SURE IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REVIEW SPECIFIC ARTWORK IF YOU ALREADY REVIEWED IT. YEAH. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WORLD THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A PIECE OF ART ON A CROSSWALK THAT YOU WOULD NOT LIKE. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW, ON OUR PART. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE AND APPROVE OF ANY KIND OF PARTNERSHIP, ANY KIND OF INVOLVEMENT, ANY KIND OF ENGAGEMENT THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH US. AND OF COURSE, I WILL RESPOND TO ANY REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION TO PRESENT. AND YOU CAN TAKE IT AS MY WORD THAT IF THERE ARE ANY DECISIONS TO BE MADE, I'LL BE BACK HERE AGAIN AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE ARTWORK IS OR WHAT THE CURRENT THOUGHT [01:45:09] IS. IT MIGHT NOT BE BEACH THEMES. MAYBE IT'S GOING TO BE BEACH BALLS, OR MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO LEARN THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. CAN WE PAINT BETWEEN THE LINES OR ON TOP OF THE LINES? I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT ANSWER. IT WAS A PICTURE UP THERE EARLIER OF THE PAINT BETWEEN THE WHITE LINES. I KNOW THAT'S NOT CALIFORNIA CODE AND IT'S NOT LAW, BUT THAT MAY BE WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE. I DON'T KNOW, BY THE WAY, THE BLOOMBERG SITE TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW AS WELL. SO THERE'S ANOTHER GOOD REFERENCE, BUT IT'S JUST ONE SITE, ONE REFERENCE. I WOULD DEFINITELY KEEP IN MIND THE COLORING THAT'S GOING TO GO BECAUSE IF IT'S MUTED ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE STREET, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A SAFETY. WE ALL KNOW THE VILLAGE IS A GEM AND THERE'S LOTS OF KIDS, ADULTS, SENIORS GOING THROUGH THERE CONTINUALLY. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY RAMP UP THE COLOR IF IT'S GOING TO GO, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE GARIBALDI. FOR ME, THOSE REALLY KIND OF POP OUT. SO DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, MORE COLOR IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. JUST THROUGHOUT THAT AND BE IT WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY DOES A SPLIT WITH THE WHITE AT THE END AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SAFETY REASONS THAT'LL BE WITH THE CITY. BUT JUST DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN PRESENTING AND MAYBE SHOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ONE OR IF IT'S A CERTAIN AREA, IF IT'S BY THE KIOSK, MAYBE SHOW A VISUAL OF IT ALL. IF YOU KNOW WHERE IT KIND OF SHOWS THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE AREA OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO, IF IT'S TWO, IF IT'S FOUR, BUT A BETTER VISUAL WOULD KIND OF GUIDE US, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY TO, TO HELP JUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK COMMISSIONER. THERE WERE TWO PIECES I DID NOT SHOW WERE DOLPHINS AND WHALES AND IT WAS TOO BLUE. YEAH, IT WAS A BIG BLUE PATCH. IT WAS GREAT ARTWORK, BUT I DIDN'T LIKE IT AS A CROSSWALK. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW IT HERE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I WOULD INCLUDE IT. I WOULD ALSO COMMENT, I DID SAY I DID THOSE WITH JUST ONE SENTENCE DESCRIPTIONS INTO GEMINI, AND IT DID A GREAT JOB TO ILLUSTRATE A THEME. I KIND OF LIKE THEM, BUT IT'S NOT THE ARTWORK THAT WOULD GO ON A CROSSWALK. WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO GENERATE THE ACTUAL ARTWORK, SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE THAT CAN BE DRAWN IN IN A NIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S TRAFFIC ISSUES, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS. WHAT COLOR PAINTS CAN YOU USE? I KNOW WHEN YOU GO INTO THE HIGHER END PAINTS ARE GOING TO LAST LONGER. YOU HAVE LESS COLOR SELECTION. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT REQUIRES COLORS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYMORE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO DO IS TO HIRE OR CONSULT WITH AN ARTIST. I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE ON THIS LIST. MY ONLY ARTIST RIGHT NOW IS GEMINI PRO. BUT WE WILL NEED TO SPEAK TO AN ARTIST. SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY REFERENCES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SOMEBODY, PREFERABLY LOCAL, THAT WE CAN CALL THAT MIGHT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AND GENERATE SOME IDEAS. AND SPEAKING OF CONTINUITY, YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THE VILLAGE BECAUSE OF THE SIGNS AND THE EAT, YOU KNOW, DINE, ALL OF THAT KIND OF MAKES IT. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART TO KEEP. FOR YOUR, ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A LITTLE BIT INTO IT. SO IT KIND OF CREATES UNITY WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES TOO. SO PART OF THAT DESIGN SHOULD BE WITH YOUR BUSINESS PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S LOOKING. IT'S REALLY FOR A DESIGN THAT'S GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE AND KEEP THAT, THAT VILLAGE, WHICH IS ALWAYS ALIVE. BUT THAT'S PART OF IT. SO ALSO MAYBE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WITH THE BIG SIGNS WHO IT'S, I THINK IT'S CATHERINE. CATHERINE DOES OR YOU USED TO DO. SO I DON'T GET A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT THAT WAY MAYBE FROM WHO YOU HAVE FOR THAT AND ALSO WHO DID SOME OF THE ELECTRIC BOXES BECAUSE YOU ALL DID ALONE YOUR ELECTRIC BOXES. SO THERE MAY BE ALSO SEE AND SEE IF MAYBE YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOME LOCAL PEOPLE TOO, THAT CAN INCORPORATE THAT AND THEN TRANSFER THAT INTO THE DESIGNS POSSIBLY SO, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE A HANDFUL OF ARTISTS THAT YOU NEVER EVEN THOUGHT THAT ARE THERE, THAT ALREADY DID A LOT OF THE DESIGN WORK FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE, THE FLAGS AND ALL OF THAT ALREADY, SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT TO YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA AND AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO START BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SOME ARTWORK THERE THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. WE WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE CAN'T ENGAGE ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, OF COURSE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY ONE THING. BUT THEY ARE PAYING THE BID. THEY'RE PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, SO. THEY ARE PART OF THE BID. AND THE BID IS PART OF REDONDO BEACH. THIS COMMISSION DOES HAVE. I THINK SOME SAY OVER WHAT GETS DONE IN THE VILLAGE. THE VILLAGE IS NOT ON ITS OWN. THE BUDGET IS NOT ENOUGH TO BEAUTIFY THE ENTIRE VILLAGE. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PROJECTS. THERE'S TRASH CAN PROJECTS, THERE'S SIGNS, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS, LOTS OF IDEAS FLOATING AROUND. AND WE ARE MANDATED TO TAKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF OUR INCOME. [01:50:03] I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, AND DEVOTED TO BEAUTIFICATION. SO IT'S NOT MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING. WE HAVE TO SPEND IT. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THAT MONEY, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO TO BEAUTIFICATION OF THE OF THE VILLAGE. BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH. THE VILLAGE IS QUITE CROWDED. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO THERE, AND I HOPE IT'S NOT IGNORED BY THIS COMMISSION. I WANT THIS COMMISSION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VILLAGE ALMOST AS MUCH AS THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN ARTESIA. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THE ARTESIA AND THE PUBLIC FUNDING. BUT FROM A COMMISSION POINT OF VIEW, PLEASE PARTICIPATE. CONSIDER THIS PART OF YOUR CITY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE LESSONS WE'RE LEARNING ON ARTESIA AND APPLY THEM TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT IS ADDITIONAL COHESION THAT'S GREAT TOO. IT'S GREAT. AND IF YOU NEED IT OFFICIAL, I THINK I CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. I SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE MOVE ON TO RECEIVE AND FILE REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES. DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES RIGHT NOW? I KNOW WE ARE MISSING. YEAH, THAT'S MY REPORT. WE'RE MISSING. TWO FROM THE GATE WAVE THING. THE TWO COMMITTEE. WE'RE KIND OF MISSING CRITICAL PEOPLE. YEAH. THE SPLASH WALL, AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON LIKE THEMATIC POSSIBILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE THE SPLASH WALL IS OVER BY? SO POSSIBLY DOING MARINE ENVIRONMENT NARRATIVE AND A HISTORICAL HERITAGE NARRATIVE WITH LARGE TILES. BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME ARTISTS READY, SO WE'RE PROPOSING HOPEFULLY THEN BY NEXT TIME, AND SO WE CAN GET AN RFQ AND THEN PRESENT IT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ANY OTHER. CHALK ART IS STILL JUST SORT OF SITTING, SITTING. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHALK ART THING READY TO GO. NO, AND WE, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO WAIT ON THAT SINCE WE HAVE SO MUCH ELSE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WE CAN END IT THE, ALL OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE TO HAVE A SUNSET OF EITHER A COMPLETED TASK OR A DATE. AND IF WE'RE NOT READY TO PROCEED, WE CAN REFORM IN THE FUTURE RATHER THAN KEEP IT DANGLING. OKAY. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I'D BE OPEN TO PUTTING IT, LIKE NOT HAVING IT DANGLE ANYMORE AND JUST REVISIT IT TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. OKAY. NEXT YEAR. AND SOMEBODY COULD MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DISSOLVE IT. CAN WELL, IS IT BECAUSE YOU NEED A NEW HELPER ON YOUR AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE NOW YOU. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT IS TOO, RIGHT? YOU COULD MAYBE. AND WOULD THAT HELP YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? FORGIVE ME, BUT I THOUGHT THAT BASED ON OUR LAST CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I THINK LAST MONTH THAT BECAUSE WITH THE, THE ARTWORK FOR ARTESIA AND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO FRUITION, THAT THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE BACK BURNER FOR NOW. JUST HOLD IT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU MIGHT HAVE OPTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER, SO YOU NEVER KNOW. TO ADD. THANK YOU. I THINK SHE KIND OF VOLUNTEERED. I'LL JUST THROW IT OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR, BUT I. GOTTA TAKE THIS ALL IN. NOW YOU'RE IN FOR IT. NOW, TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE A SIDEWALK CHALK FESTIVAL OR DAY OR SOMETHING WHERE IT WAS VERY, WE WERE JUST HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT AND HOW FUN IT WOULD BE. AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF FELL TO THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER THINGS ON OUR PLATE. LET ME INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND, IF I MAY. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS CURRENT OPEN POSITIONS ON SUBCOMMITTEES AT OUR NEXT MEETING. SO IF WE WANT TO TABLE THAT FOR A MINUTE, I BET WE CAN. SURE. TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT. I'M JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HOPEFULLY PEOPLE BACK, [01:55:02] POSSIBLY A NEW PERSON. WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING ELECTIONS AS THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR, BECAUSE IT'LL BE AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. AND SO THE OCTOBER MEETING WILL BE ELECTIONS AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO REASSIGN OR ASSIGN NEW PEOPLE TO SUBCOMMITTEES. SO I THINK BOTH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE AGENDIZED. SO I WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. THANK YOU, JACK. DO WE NEED TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS? OKAY. IS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. THE REPORT. THE INFORMATION FROM THE ACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AND THEN OUR NEXT POINT IS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ITEMS ON FUTURE AGENDAS. [K. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS] WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEIR OPEN POSITIONS ON THOSE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO SEE ON A FUTURE AGENDA? I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REQUEST GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE RIVIERA VILLAGE CROSSWALKS AND IF THEY WOULD LIKE US TO KEEP THAT DIALOG OPEN. I WILL HOPE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. IF NOT, THEN THE MEETING AFTER. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA? GATEWAY. I MEAN, WE'RE ON THAT, BUT I PLAN TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR WHETHER THESE GUYS ARE HERE OR NOT NEXT, BUT PRESENTING OPTIONS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW WE GOT. I FEEL LIKE WE GOT TO MOVE FAST WHILE WE GOT THAT CASH IS SET ASIDE. ANYWAY, THAT THAT'S I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT FORM THAT WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OR I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION. CAN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR GATEWAY AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE AGENDA? IF WE DON'T IF WE'RE NOT OVERLOADED WITH OTHER THINGS, ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AM I ABLE TO ASK TO JOIN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE? WELL, DIDN'T YOU TAP IT FOR THE NEXT TIME? YEAH. SO THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN. I MEAN, I SAY NIP IT NOW THAT YOU HAVE WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS NOW, SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO. WE HAVE A VOTE. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE YOU HAVE. WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER AND YOURSELF, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE THREE ON A COMMITTEE. SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO IT A LITTLE BIT. SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONER AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE IT. YEAH, DO YOU GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR. HOW MANY DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THAT COMMISSION? WE HAVE THREE IN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE THREE. IN, WELL. OH THAT'S TRUE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT. OKAY, I SEE. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IF HE'S, WHETHER HE COMES BACK OR NOT IS THE ONLY. WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL. IT SORTS ITSELF OUT IN THE NEXT ONE. NEXT MEETING. WE'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW. YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST. OKAY. OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NOT FOR ME. AND SO THERE'S NOT A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS. IT'S FOR THE GATEWAY. THE GATEWAY? WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME. YEAH. SO I'M AWARE THAT I WAS LIKE, I JUST DON'T WANT. YEAH. I DO HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO THROW YOUR WAY. THERE'S A TRAINING SESSION THAT IS ON THE 29TH AT 6 P.M.. AND WHILE IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT IT IS NOT MANDATORY. YEAH. THEY REALLY WANT EVERYONE THERE IF THEY CAN GET THEM. THE, THIS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN SCOTT BEHRENDT AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEY'RE, THEY WANT TO DO AN IN DEPTH. THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT BROWN ACT. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE TO ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS. SO THE WHILE IT IS NOT OFFICIALLY MANDATORY, IT IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED ATTENDANCE. THANK YOU, JACK. I PLAN ON GOING. I HAVE AN RSVP, BUT I DO PLAN ON GOING. DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW LONG THAT. WE DO KNOW THAT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY QUESTIONS COME FROM ALL OF THE NEW COMMISSIONERS. IF EVERYBODY SHOWED UP, THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 48 OF YOU. OKAY, SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT. GREAT. OKAY. AND I WILL, I'M TOLD I SHOULD FORWARD THIS, THE MESSAGE AGAIN BY EMAIL. THANK YOU. SO I WILL FORWARD THE SAME MESSAGE AGAIN. SO THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY ADVISING ATTENDANCE MAKES SENSE. I PLAN ON GOING. AND I THINK THAT IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT REFRESHER FOR ALL OF US TO GET THIS INFORMATION. [02:00:05] WELL, HE PUT IT IN QUOTES, SO IT'S PRETTY BIG. I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE THINKING IN ORDER TO RESCHEDULE A MEETING, AS WE HAVE OCCASIONALLY DONE IN THE PAST IN NOVEMBER FOR HOLIDAYS. THEY'RE TELLING ME IT MUST BE AGENDIZED. OKAY. WHICH MEANS IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO BE READY TO DO THAT. SO FIGURE OUT, I'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT DATES ARE POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE. YOU DECIDE IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO DO IT. OUR MEETING WILL LAND THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. SOME PEOPLE WILL BE TRAVELING, OTHERS WILL BE COOKING. IT MAY BE THAT WE COULDN'T PUT TOGETHER A QUORUM. THERE HAS TO BE A SPECIFIC REASON FOR IT. AND THEN WE CAN RESCHEDULE, PERHAPS EARLIER IN THE MONTH. OR NOT, WE NOW HAVE DECEMBER MEETINGS. WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE. THAT DROPS ON THE 23RD. SO WE CAN'T REALLY DO TWO IN A ROW, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY CANCEL A MEETING FROM A REGULAR MEETING. YOU CAN'T CANCEL IT FROM A SPECIAL MEETING. CAN WE CHANGE THE DATE THOUGH OF IT? OKAY. YEAH. AS I SAID, WELL, YOU CAN. THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU CAN VOTE ON IN OCTOBER. YEAH. IS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH YOUR CHOICE STILL? OKAY. AND I CAN FIND OUT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND SEND THOSE OUT TO YOU IN ADVANCE. AND YOU CAN CONSIDER WHETHER YOU WISH TO CHANGE YOUR TIME SLOT MONTHLY. ARE WE ABLE JUST TO, TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, BUT TO FIGURE OUT AND SCHEDULE FOR THEN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO TRICKY MONTHS THAT FALL ON THAT. YOU KNOW, FOR THE 23RD OF DECEMBER AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST. WELL, IF THEY'RE NO LONGER ON THE YOU KNOW, AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, YOU HAVE LESS OF A REASON TO CANCEL. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO SEND US AN EMAIL NOW AND THEN WE JUST, WE CAN JUST. I'LL SEND YOU ALL THE INFORMATION I CAN. YEAH. AND THEN YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT IT AND WE CAN BRING IT UP AT THE, AT THE MEETING. GREAT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, JACK. I'M DONE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, CHRISTIAN-KELLY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION TO ADJOURN PASSES. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE REDONDO BEACH CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD AT 7 P.M. ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2026 IN THE REDONDO BEACH COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 415 DIAMOND STREET, REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS, EVERYBODY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.