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          OCTOBER 14TH, 2026. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? 
          [A. CALL TO ORDER]
CERTAINLY. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROY. 
          PRESENT. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GALASSI. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. 
          HERE. CHAIR MAROKO. HERE. THANK YOU. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM C,
THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND INVOCATION. 
          MISS PINEDA, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AND LEAD US,
PLEASE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          SO WE'RE DOING THAT. BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO IT OUR LIAISON,
DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE NEW STAFF MEMBER, PLEASE? YES I WOULD. CHRISTINE LEFTNER IS OUR NEW LIBRARY MANAGER. 
          SHE STARTED ON MONDAY. SHE COMES TO US FROM NEWPORT BEACH AND ALSO HAS WORKED AT ORANGE
COUNTY AND LONG BEACH PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          SO SHE HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC LIBRARY EXPERIENCE,
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER. 
          AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WELCOME. WELCOME. YEAH. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM D APPROVE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. 
          [D. APPROVE ORDER OF AGENDA]
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND THAT IS ITEM L.1, WHICH IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS. 
          SINCE WE'RE IN A NEW TERM, I FIGURED IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT EARLIER
THAN LATER IN THE MEETING. 
          SO IF WE CAN, I WOULD PROPOSE WE MOVE IT BETWEEN THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THE EXCLUDED
CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          SO AND DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MOVE ANYTHING? OKAY, I DON'T BELIEVE I NEED A SECOND ON. I DO NEED A SECOND ON THAT. 
          SO CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SAY NO. OKAY. SO THAT PASSES. AND SO WE'LL GET THROUGH THE TWO THE FOUR CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEMS. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ELECTION. AND THEN WE'LL DO THE EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE FIVE TODAY. 
          [E. BLUE FOLDER ITEMS - ADDITIONAL BACK UP MATERIALS]
I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM REALLY QUICKLY. SO WHEN THE L.3 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
PICKLEBALL COURTS WE RECEIVED TWO ITEMS. ONE IS THE FEEDBACK REGARDING PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          THE OTHER IS A COMMISSIONER GALASSI'S PRESENTATION ON THE AVIATION PARK PICKLEBALL COURTS
UNDER L.6. 
          WE HAVE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. 
          WE HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT AND AN ITEM AND WE HAVE THE COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS FOR
FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS. WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION HIGHLIGHTS FROM 25-26. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE THE CALIFORNIA PRESERVATION FOUNDATION TRAINING. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE BLUE FOLDER ITEMS. SO MOVED. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU,
COMMISSIONER ROY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW WE MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          [F. CONSENT CALENDAR]
AND THESE ARE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED OVER THERE F.1,
F.2, F.3 AND F.4 ONE'S APPROVING AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING FOR THE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION MEETING FOR OCTOBER 14TH. 
          THE OTHER IS APPROVE REDONDO BEACH PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION. 
          OH THE POSTING OF THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 9TH. 
          RECEIVE AND FILE THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR'S REPORT AND F.4 IS RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATES FOR THE
COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT RELATED TO HISTORIC PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITY. DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO MOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR? OKAY. I'M GOING TO PULL TWO THE MINUTES AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPORT. SO WE WILL HAVE ESSENTIALLY TWO ITEMS TO VOTE ON IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ONE IS THE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING AND THE OTHER IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LIBRARY
DIRECTOR'S REPORT, ALSO KNOWN AS F.1 AND F.3. SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE F.1 AND F.3. 
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MOTION TO APPROVE F.1 AND F.3. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND. 
          I'LL MAKE THE SECOND. AND WE GOT TO MOVE IT ALONG. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE OPPOSING IT. JUST PLEASE TELL US AND WE'LL MOVE IT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ACTUALLY IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON ITEMS
F.1 THE AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING OR F.3 THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR'S REPORT. NO. OKAY. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED SAY NO. OKAY. SO THOSE F.1 AND F.3 PASSED. 
          WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM L.1. AND SINCE WE CHANGED THE ORDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
REGARDING NOMINATIONS AND ELECTION OF A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. 
          [L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION]
SO THE PROCEDURE THAT'S SET OUT ON L.1 IS THE STAFF LIAISON. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE STAFF LIAISON IS NOT PART OF THE BODY UNLESS YOU
WANT HIM TO DO THE PART THAT SAYS THERE WHERE HE OPENS IT FOR NOMINATIONS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT AND I'LL DO IT BY ANYBODY,
HAVE A NEGATIVE VOTE ON THAT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW THE LIST. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON IT BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO THE STAFF LIAISON? OKAY. YOU'RE ON. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR THE POSITION OF PUBLIC
AMENITIES CHAIR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER GALASSI. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS OR A SECOND? I SECOND THAT NOMINATION. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? THEN I THINK WE COULD TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. YES. COMMISSIONER ROY. AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. WELL, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. 
          ARE WE VOTING ON THE CHAIR RIGHT THIS SECOND. 
          IS THERE CAN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? OH, SURE. GO RIGHT AHEAD. OKAY. SORRY, NO. IT'S OKAY. 
          I'M ACTUALLY REALLY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. I JUST WANTED TO I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE I'M A
NEWER COMMISSIONER, AS YOU KNOW, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE TAKING ON A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE LGBTQ HISTORY IN
REDONDO BEACH. 
          AND IF APPROVED AS CHAIR TONIGHT. I WANTED TO KNOW OF YOUR COMMITMENT TO SUPPORTING THAT,
THOSE ENDEAVORS AND KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE ENTHUSIASM. 
          CAN I GET YOUR COMMITMENT? YOU KNOW, AS CHAIR TO HELP ME TO DO THAT? THAT WAS A BIG QUESTION I HAD FOR WHOEVER WAS GOING TO BE NOMINATED TONIGHT. 
          ARE YOU ASKING IN TERMS OF AFFIRMING YOUR PARTICIPATION ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE? YEAH, I, I'M VERY EXCITED TO LIKE TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE AHEAD. BUT, YOU KNOW,
I KIND OF WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO ME THOSE PROJECTS AND KNOWING THAT I WOULD HAVE THE CHAIR'S SUPPORT BEHIND THAT THIS YEAR WOULD BE SOMETHING
THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE AND SEE IF YOU WERE,
YOU KNOW, AS EXCITED AS I AM ABOUT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, IF YOU WILL. SO YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR ALWAYS SUPPORTS THE WORK THAT PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SERVE
ON THOSE SUBCOMMITTEE DO. AND SO IF THIS IS IN YOUR HEART TO DO IT,
I. 
          I'M MORE THAN HAPPY AND PLEASED TO SUPPORT YOU IN THAT ENDEAVOR. 
          AS WELL AS CHAIR MAROKO, WHO HAS BEEN CHAMPIONING THAT PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE THE RESPONSE AND THE SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO TO VOTE YES. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO START OVER AGAIN OR DO YOU WANT
TO WE CAN CONTINUE WHERE WE LEFT OFF. 
          YEAH. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, YOUR VOTE. 
          YES. CHAIR MAROKO. YES. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          YES. IS NOW AN APPROPRIATE TIME JUST TO ASK THE NOMINEE TO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY DISCUSS HER INTEREST IN THE ROLE AND HER COMMITMENT. 
          I THINK THAT'S FINE. OKAY. WOULD YOU MIND DOING THAT? FAIR ENOUGH. QUESTION. 
          I'VE HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS POSITION. I THINK A YEAR AGO I WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT
IT, BUT I HAVE BEEN SERVING THREE YEARS IN PRESERVATION AND TWO YEARS ON THE PUBLIC AMENITIES
COMMISSION. 
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AND IN THOSE FIVE YEARS HAVE LEARNED A LOT, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR CURRENT CHAIR. 
          AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE. 
          WE TWO YEARS AGO BEGAN WITH AN UNKNOWN, AS YOU KNOW,
ALL THESE FOUR COMMISSIONS WERE PUT TOGETHER AND WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO WITH THAT,
HOW WE WERE GOING TO RUN OUR MEETINGS. 
          IN THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THINGS HAVE REALLY GELLED AND WE HAVE HAD SOME FANTASTIC
FORMER COMMISSIONERS AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT OUR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, AND ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO. 
          SO FOR ME, IT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FIRST TIME NEW JOB,
YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, BE AS ELOQUENT AS OUR CURRENT CHAIR, BUT I HAVE ALL OF MY NOTES. 
          I KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND YEAH, QUITE CONFIDENT THAT I CAN LEAD US. 
          THANK YOU. I VOTE YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GALASSI. 
          I THINK I'LL VOTE YES. COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. I VOTE YES. 
          OKAY, SO YOU ARE NOW THE CHAIR WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND SIT IN THE CHAIR'S SEAT? AND RUN THE MEETING? I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. 
          OH, I'M MORE THAN FINE. I JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE MARQUIS MAY CHANGE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO DO MID MEETING, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SWITCH SEATS. 
          OKAY, AS YOU WISH. I'LL GET THE GAVEL. PERCUSSION INSTRUMENT. 
          IF YOU'RE A MUSICIAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. 
          TWO MONITORS. FIRST, I WISH TO THANK OUR OUTGOING CHAIR FOR HIS EXCEPTIONAL WORK ON THIS COMMISSION. HE HAS LED US WITH GRACE AND KINDNESS AND AN ABUNDANCE AND WEALTH
OF INFORMATION WHICH I KNOW HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMISSION. 
          THAT SAID, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS TO VOTE ON A VICE CHAIR. 
          AND I WISH TO NOMINATE OUR OUTGOING CHAIR AS VICE CHAIR. 
          I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO A VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. 
          I THINK IF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO IT, I WOULD WELCOME THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ROTATE AROUND IS TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE
LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITY OF RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO. WE ARE ALL COMMISSIONERS THAT AT THE END OF THE
DAY. 
          AND SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS THE TITLE, PLEASE SPEAK UP. 
          WHEN I BECAME THE FIRST VICE CHAIR, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON IT. 
          SO I ACTUALLY WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT OR NOT AND
GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO DO IT? ANYONE CAN NOMINATE THEMSELVES BECAUSE I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN TAKING ON THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE A VICE CHAIR. 
          I'M FRESHLY NEW COMMISSIONER, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO SORT OF GET THE INSIGHTS
AND THE EXPERIENCE AS THE OUTGOING CHAIR JUST SUGGESTED. 
          SO IT IS SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING AND FEEL I COULD,
YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE CHAIR'S LEAD AS WELL AS SORT OF PROVIDE STRUCTURE AND MAKE CERTAIN THE MEETINGS MOVE FORWARD WHEN IT HAPPENS THAT I'M CALLED UPON TO DO SO. 
          COMMISSIONER ROY. NO, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING IT JUST YET. 
          I'M STILL NEW TO THE COMMISSION AND WANT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BEHIND ME,
BUT YEAH, I SUPPORT YOUR NOMINATION. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. 
          HAPPY TO LEARN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE,
TOO, WHO WANTS TO STEP UP TO THAT LEADERSHIP AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW SOMETIMES,
LIKE, NOT THAT IT'S A GUARANTEE, BUT SOMETIMES THE VICE IS SORT OF TEEING UP, YOU KNOW, TO BE CHAIR. AND IS THAT SOMETHING OF A PATHWAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T SHY
AWAY FROM? NOT TO SAY I'M COMMITTING TO YOU TO THAT NOW,
BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOUR ENDEAVORS. SURE. IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TWO YEARS,
THREE YEARS FROM NOW, OR WHEN OUR NEW CHAIR WOULD WOULD EVEN VACATE THE POSITION. 
          I DON'T CLOSE ANY DOORS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO JUST GETTING THE EXPERIENCE AND GAINING
FROM THAT AND STEPPING UP TO SERVE HOWEVER I CAN. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MIX UP OF NEW LEADERSHIP AS WELL. 
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ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOT VOTING YET. I'M JUST OPENING OPENING UP TO ANYONE ELSE HERE. 
          SORRY. NO NOT FOR ME. NOT FOR ME EITHER. OKAY. 
          I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS BECAUSE I'M. 
          WELL, I WON'T BE NOMINATED. SO YOU HAVE ONE CANDIDATE? I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE YOU, I WOULD DECLINE. 
          I THINK THAT WE HAVE A POTENTIALLY REALLY GOOD LEADER IN THE CITY,
AND I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          OKAY, WELL, AT THIS POINT, THEN I WILL CALL A VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. YES. COMMISSIONER ROY. AYR. 
          COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER GALASSI. 
          FORMER COMMISSIONER GALASSI. YES. AND COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. YES. AND COMMISSIONER MAROKO. 
          YES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE. IT PASSES. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. SO WE'RE ON TO EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. 
          [G. EXCLUDED CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS]
AND WE HAD PULLED F.2 AND F.4. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 9TH 2026. 
          AND COMMISSIONER MAROKO YOU HAD REQUESTED TO PULL THAT SO I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. SO I KIND OF EXPRESSED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR MINUTES ARE ACCURATE. 
          AND I THOUGHT WE WERE MAKING PROGRESS IN GETTING MORE ACCURATE MINUTES. 
          BUT THIS ONE HAS WHAT I WOULD CALL AN OFFENSIVE WORD IN IT. 
          AND THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT ARE COMPLETELY MISSING FROM THE MINUTES,
BUT I'LL START WITH THE OFFENSE. 
          WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL START WITH THE SPELLING ERROR. THERE'S L IT'S SPELLED ILYA
KLINGER, AND THEY SPELL IT WITH AN E HERE. AND I THINK AT LEAST WE CAN GET THAT CLEANED UP. 
          WHAT PAGE IS THAT? HE SPOKE ON THE WILDERNESS PARK. 
          SO IT'S BASICALLY DEALING WITH WILDERNESS PARK. 
          THE SECOND THING IS UNDER THE SECTION DEALING WITH,
NEWLY APPOINTED ADJOINING SUBCOMMITTEES. I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER,
AND I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO, ME SAYING THAT I WAS GOING TO BE WANTED TO BE ON THE PRESERVATION OUTREACH COMMITTEE. THAT DIDN'T GET INTO THE MINUTES. 
          THAT I HAD VOLUNTEERED FOR IT. AND ON PAGE 18 OF 21,
WE VOTED ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. 
          SO THE PART THAT WAS ADDED AFTER THE MOTION BY ME AND SECONDED BY THE COMMISSIONER GALASSI
IS ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE WHOLE THING, BUT IF IT'S A SUMMATION, IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE MY NAME ON THE PRESERVATION
OUTREACH. 
          SO THAT'S THE SECOND THING. THE THIRD THING,
AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I FOUND OFFENSIVE. 
          IT SAYS THAT I DIRECTED SENIOR PLANNER CIAMPA TO STAY BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE THINGS FOR
HIM TO TAKE BACK TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DIRECTING STAFF IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I DID NOT DIRECT HIM. 
          I USED THE WORD PLEASE, GAVE HIM AN OPTION IF HE WANTED TO STAY. 
          SO THIS FALLS INTO THE OPINING VERSUS REQUESTING VERSUS THING. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT WORD NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 
          YOU CAN EITHER SAY REQUESTED OR UNDERSTOOD. SO THAT ONE THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH REGARDS TO THAT. AND IS THAT ANYBODY WHO WENT TO THE TRAINING KNOWS THAT WE DON'T DIRECT STAFF. 
          SO I'VE BECOME VERY SENSITIZED TO THAT. AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN,
AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THESE COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO I NEED THAT WORD CHANGED. UNDERSTOOD. THERE ARE OTHER THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH
THINGS THAT ARE LEFT OUT, BUT THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES. AND SINCE I'M VOTING NO ON IT IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO IT. 
          SOME OF IT. SOME OF IT'S AS SIMPLE AS YOU HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          YOU DO THE ROLL CALL AND THEN IT SAYS, MOTION CARRIES BY ROLL CALL VOTE,
WHICH IS REDUNDANCY IN THE WORDS ITSELF. 
          SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE COMING BACK WITH THOSE CHANGES. 
          OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON
THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 9TH. I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND ON ON ITEM N 
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AND THIS WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT, IT SETS UP THE BASIS FOR MY REQUEST. 
          SO I SAID THAT THE REASON FOR TO HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION REPORTS CONTAINING DATA POINTS
IS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS AT BUDGET TIME. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK
INTO THE MINUTES, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT JUST IT APPEARS LIKE A PERSONAL COMMENTARY,
WHICH IS NOT THE INTENT. 
          SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT GETTING BACK INTO THE MINUTES. 
          AND THAT IS IT. OKAY. I THINK WE ARE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE MINUTES TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES OR NOT. 
          CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE MINUTES TILL NEXT MEETING SO THEY CAN CLEAN THAT UP. 
          YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE ONLINE? NO ONE ONLINE AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT I'VE RECEIVED. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          WE'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. 
          SO WE APPROVED THAT TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND NOW WE ARE UP TO F.4, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPORT. AND COMMISSIONER MAROKO YOU HAD REQUESTED TO PULL THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THE FLOOR GOES TO YOU. THANK YOU. SO I PULLED THIS BECAUSE THERE IS NO NO PRESENTATION WITH REGARDS TO THIS EXCELLENT ARTICLE WRITTEN IN THE REDONDO BEACH CITY
LIFESTYLE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT THE REPORT WOULD
HAVE INCLUDED THAT THERE WAS THIS MAGAZINE PUBLISHED THAT HAD THE ARTICLE IN IT,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS LEFT OUT. 
          BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AT SOME POINT AND MAYBE MAKE COPIES AVAILABLE FOR THE
COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. THAT'S IT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON F.4? COMMISSIONER MAROKO. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A REPORT TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES HERE ANYWAY,
THAT WILL REPORT BACK TO WHOEVER NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING THESE COPIES AVAILABLE AND PRESENTING STUFF IN THE REPORT. 
          THAT ACTUALLY IS HELPFUL. I THINK YOU MADE A COMMENT AT ONE POINT ABOUT WE DIDN'T KNOW
MUCH ABOUT FRANKLIN PARK AND THAT'S COMING UP. 
          SO THEY NEED TO BRING OUT MORE INFORMATION. I THINK THAT WAS ALSO YOUR POINT ON THE
MINUTES. 
          SO YOUR MOTION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. AND WE ARE AT LETTER H PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS SECTION IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT
ON ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THIS AGENDA FOR ACTION. 
          THIS SECTION IS LIMITED TO 30 MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO
ADDRESS THE CHAIR AND COMMISSION. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONLY ONCE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM. 
          MY ONLY SPEAKER CARD IS FOR AN AGENDA ITEM. SO NOTHING THAT'S NON AGENDA. 
          OKAY THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE. 
          NO ONE ONLINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE AT H.1. COMMENTS AND EMAILS RECEIVED FROM ECOMMENTS AND EMAILS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY ECOMMENTS AND EMAILS? NO ECOMMENTS OR EMAILS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LETTER I EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. 
          WELL, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER LETTER J BECAUSE THERE ARE
NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
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SO NOW WE ARE AT LETTER K ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS AGENDAS? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU. LETTER L ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO ACTION. 
          SO L.1 WE HAVE ALREADY DONE SO WE CAN CROSS THAT OUT. 
          L.2 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CITY NAMING POLICY FACILITY
POLICY. 
          AND DO WE HAVE STAFF MEMBER READY TO PRESENT FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS JANE CHUNG. I'M WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          AND THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CITY
FACILITY NAMING POLICY. 
          THE PRESENTATION WILL GO THROUGH A BRIEF BACKGROUND AS TO WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH THIS
ITEM. 
          AND I WILL GO THROUGH HIGH LEVEL OF THE DRAFT POLICY THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM
ITSELF, AND THEN CONCLUDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR THE NAMING POLICY IS A STRATEGIC PLAN GOAL THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS SET FOR US FOR THIS YEAR. 
          SO SPECIFICALLY GOAL 5.2, OBJECTIVE NUMBER 69. 
          AS PART OF THE GOAL OBJECTIVE, IT DOES STATE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO CREATE
A NAMING SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          AND SO FROM THERE WE CREATED A SUBCOMMITTEE COMPRISED OF MAYOR LIGHT,
COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEHRENDT, AND OBAGI, MYSELF AND THEN WATERFRONT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR ELIZABETH HAUSE. 
          FROM THERE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MET AND CONVENED AND DEVELOPED A PROPOSED POLICY THAT WAS
ATTACHED, AGAIN, TO YOUR AGENDA. AND THERE WAS A COMMENT MENTIONED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT
THE CITY'S THAT WE DID REVIEW AND LOOK AT THEIR EXISTING POLICIES, WHICH ARE NOW LISTED IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, WE TOOK BEST PRACTICES AND AGAIN,
DEVELOPED THE PROPOSED POLICY POLICY ATTACHED TO TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO THE NAMING CRITERIA WE HAD DEFINED THREE FACILITY TYPES MAJOR FACILITIES. 
          THESE ARE YOUR LARGE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES COMMUNITY CENTERS,
CENTERS LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDINGS NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES OR COULD BE SUB COMPONENTS OF THE MAJOR FACILITIES, WHETHER IT BE A MEETING ROOM OR A COURT,
AND THEN PARK STRUCTURES SEPARATE FROM THE COMMEMORATIVE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR TREES COULD BE A SHADE STRUCTURE OR I THINK I FORGOT IF THOSE BENCHES OR NOT,
BUT SMALLER ENTITIES WITHIN A PARK. WHEN IT COMES TO NAMING CRITERIA, WE SET CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR THAT. 
          SO THERE'S A GEOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE,
INDIVIDUALS EXCEPTIONAL CIVIC LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. 
          WE DO HAVE A LANGUAGE IN THERE REGARDING WAITING PERIOD AFTER THE PASSING OF AN INDIVIDUAL
IF WE WOULD WANT TO NAME A FACILITY AFTER THAT INDIVIDUAL. BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT COULD BE WAIVED BY 4/5 VOTE OF THE
CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER CRITERIA REGARDING DONORS WITH MEANINGFUL FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
FACILITY ITSELF. 
          THE POLICY INCLUDES VETTING REQUIREMENTS, SO ANY PROPOSED NAMING OF A FACILITY WILL GO
THROUGH A INVESTIGATION OF THAT INDIVIDUAL'S NAME OR CORPORATE SPONSORS, AND WE WOULD REVIEW PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. 
          ANY DISQUALIFYING BACKGROUND WOULD AUTOMATICALLY DEEM THAT NAMING PROPOSED NAMING TO BE
INELIGIBLE. 
          AND THEN OTHER TWO INELIGIBLE NAMING CATEGORIES INCLUDE CURRENT ELECTED APPOINTED
OFFICIALS AND CURRENT CITY OR MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEE. 
          COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK TO US WHEN I PRESENTED THIS IN SEPTEMBER THAT AT ANY POINT,
CITY COUNCIL MAY REVOKE THE NAMING OF A FACILITY IF THEY DECIDE BY 4/5 VOTE IF A INDIVIDUALS REPUTATION NO LONGER ALIGNS WITH THE CITY VALUES OR COMMUNITY
STANDARDS. 
          THERE'S ALSO A SECTION REGARDING CORPORATE NAMING RIGHTS,
WHICH IS ALLOWED FOR MAJOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES. 
          THE PROCESS IS MANAGED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND MAY INCLUDE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS
OR DIRECT SOLICITATION. 
          THE EVALUATION CRITERIA IS LISTED THERE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CORPORATE REPUTATION,
WHETHER THE CORPORATION OR THE PROPOSED NAMING ALIGNS WITH THE FACILITY'S MISSION. AND THEN THERE'S LANGUAGE ABOUT DURATION AND VALUE OF THE NAMING RIGHTS. 
          TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT HAS A DEFINED PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED ON THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS ONE. 
          ANY NAME CAN BE REVOKED AT ANY POINT BY CITY COUNCIL WITH A 4/5 VOTE. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME NAMING RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE POLICY ITSELF. 
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SO MAJOR FACILITIES AND PARK STRUCTURES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL NAMING UNLESS CITY
COUNCIL APPROVES IT. 
          CERTAIN FACILITIES CANNOT BE RENAMED OR NAMED. 
          THOSE ARE LISTED THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, SOME BEING CIVIC CENTER. 
          THE 911 MEMORIAL AND OTHER FACILITIES OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY. 
          WE ALSO WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR POLITICAL, DISCRIMINATORY,
PROFANE OR OVERLY COMPLEX NAMES, AND WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID DUPLICATE NAMES OR SUBDIVISION OF FACILITIES. SO IF IT'S ONE PARK PARCEL,
SPLITTING IT UP AND SAYING THIS IS A NAME AND THEN NAMING THE OTHER HALF IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE'S THREE TYPE OF FACILITIES AS IT COMES TO NAMING
POLICY. 
          SO THE FIRST CATEGORY IS MAJOR FACILITIES. THESE ARE YOUR LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDINGS
YOUR RECREATION CENTERS COMMUNITY CENTERS. 
          SO LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, CITY COUNCIL OVERSEES THAT NAMING PROCESS. 
          FROM THERE, THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS STAFF WILL EVALUATE THE NAMING SUGGESTIONS,
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE NAME THAT IS APPROVED WILL REQUIRE A 4/5 CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED PER FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER. 
          CITY COUNCIL MAY ALSO RENAME AN EXISTING MAJOR FACILITY AT ITS DISCRETION,
AGAIN SUBJECT TO A 4/5 VOTE, AND ANY APPROVED RENAMING WILL BE FORMALIZED THROUGH A COUNCIL RESOLUTION. 
          NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES. AGAIN, SUBCOMPONENTS OF YOUR MAJOR FACILITIES. 
          THERE'S TWO METHODS IN WHICH A NAMING COULD BE CONSIDERED. 
          IT'S EITHER INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL OR AN INDIVIDUAL OF THE COMMUNITY,
OR THE PUBLIC CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. 
          FOR THE APPLICATION CITY COUNCIL ALSO ASKED THAT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT APPLICANTS
RECEIVE A SPONSORSHIP FOR AT LEAST ONE COUNCILMEMBER. 
          THAT APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAD NOMINATED THIS COMMISSION TO BE PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS WITHIN
30 DAYS OF RECEIVING AN APPLICATION, AND BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION,
WE WOULD THEN DO A PUBLIC NOTICE LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE IS A NAME BEING CONSIDERED. AND ULTIMATELY, AS YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF THE REPEATED THEME,
IT WILL REQUIRE 4/5 VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE FULL COST OF WHATEVER THAT MAY BE
DEPENDING ON WHAT STAFF HAS COST LISTED OUT FOR THEM WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE NAMING BEING APPROVED. 
          JUST BRIEFLY, SO THOSE COST RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE THE APPLICATION FEE ITSELF. 
          AND THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE LISTED ITEMS ON THAT
SCREEN. 
          AND THEN FEES WILL BE BASED ON THE CITY'S MASTER FEE SCHEDULE AND THEN REFLECTED IN THERE
AS SUCH. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SECTION ON RENAMING GUIDELINES. 
          SO I HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER THAT THERE'S A COMPONENT UNDER MAJOR FACILITIES THAT CITY
COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO RENAME A MAJOR FACILITY AT 4/5 VOTE. 
          SO SIMILARLY, IT'S REINFORCING THAT CONCEPT. BUT ALSO THERE IS LANGUAGE ABOUT RENAMING
BEING DISCOURAGED IN THE SENSE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF SHIFT THE THE NAMES AND EVERYONE GETS CONFUSED. BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT RENAMING WOULD BE
CONSIDERED IF THE FACILITY USE CHANGES, THE FACILITY ACTUALLY GETS DEMOED, OR THERE IS A LANGUAGE OF THE REVOCATION OF A NAME. 
          SO THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE CORPORATE SPONSOR NO LONGER ALIGNS WITH THE CITY VALUES. 
          AGAIN, WHICH CITY COUNCIL CAN REVOKE THAT NAMING AND EXISTING NAMES ARE GRANDFATHERED IN,
BUT MAY BE RECONSIDERED IF NEEDED AT THE END OF POST IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS POLICY. SO TO CONCLUDE,
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT POLICY. 
          AND LIKE I HAD HIGHLIGHTED IN A PRIOR SLIDE REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES,
THE ROLE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO YOUR COMMISSION AND THEN DIRECT STAFF. 
          I WOULD RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RESOLUTION TO FORMALLY ADOPT THIS POLICY. 
          I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO OUR COMMISSION HERE TO TO PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS PRESENTATION. AND I THINK I'LL START ON THE OTHER END RIGHT NOW. 
          SO COMMISSIONER GAMBLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. 
          THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS A COUPLE QUESTIONS,
AND I WANT TO RUN YOU THROUGH TWO EXAMPLES. 
          AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN HOW THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW IT ACTUALLY CARRIES OUT. 
          SO AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, THE COUNCIL CAN NAME ANYTHING WITH A 3/5 VOTE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. PRIOR TO THIS POLICY. 
          MAJORITY OR A 3/5. SO IF WE HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS,
I MEAN THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE. 
          IS IT A 2 TO 1? SO IS THIS SETTING IT UP THAT YOU NEED ACTUALLY FOUR PHYSICAL VOTES IN
ORDER TO PASS IT? 
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YES THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED. 
          AND WHAT IS THE REASONING WHERE THE COUNCIL DECIDES THAT IT ALL OF A SUDDEN,
BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT BEING 3/5 INITIALLY TO NAME AND 4/5 TO REMOVE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE REASONING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ACTUALLY CLAW BACK SOME OF THEIR POWER,
THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANY TIME THEY WANT TO? SURE. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE FULL COUNCIL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY FOCUS ON THAT PARTICULAR
VALUE OF THE VOTING. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THEMSELVES,
THEY FELT THAT IF THERE WERE ANY NAMES THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED OR BEING CHANGED, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL WAS IN FAVOR AND THAT EVERYONE WAS IN AN AGREEMENT
OF IT. 
          WE DIDN'T WANT NAMES TO POTENTIALLY BE POLITICIZED. 
          AND THEN YOU KIND OF WORK THROUGH THOSE LINES OR THOSE NUMBERS THAT WAY. 
          SO THEY REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS A MAJORITY VOTE. 
          OKAY. AND HOW LONG IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE BEEN MEETING FOR? SIX MONTHS A YEAR. I WOULD SAY ABOUT SIX MONTHS. 
          SO WAS THERE A REASON WHY THE BILL BRAND PARK NAMING WENT OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS THAT
YOU GUYS WERE WORKING ON? THE DIRECTION FOR THE NAMING OF THAT PARK ACTUALLY KIND OF WAS HAPPENING DURING THIS DRAFT
POLICY WAS BEING PROPOSED OR DRAFTED JUST IN TERMS OF TIMING, GIVEN WHEN THAT PARK WAS PLANNED TO BE OPENED,
WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS DRAFT POLICY IN PLACE JUST YET. 
          OKAY. SO I HAVE TWO EXAMPLES. SURE. AND I WANT TO DISTINGUISH IT. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE NAMING THINGS THAT WE GET TO WORK ON IS THINGS LIKE THE BATTING
CAGES OVER AT PERRY PARK OR THE SNACK BAR OVER AT SOUTH REDONDO DOMINGUEZ PARK. 
          CORRECT. CORRECT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH FRANKLIN PARK? I AM. SO THERE'S A PLAQUE THAT'S NOW ON THE BIG MASSIVE SIGN LANDMARK SIGN THAT SAYS
ROTARY. 
          DID THEY PAY FOR HAVING THEIR PLAQUE PUT THERE? I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE. KIND OF THE MECHANISMS OF GETTING THAT PLAQUE IN THERE. 
          SO I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT INFORMATION,
BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN ANY OF THE COUNCIL AGENDAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ALLOW ONE ENTITY TO BE ABLE TO MONOPOLIZE A PARK. SO IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT
YOU'RE PROPOSING TO US. 
          AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CLEAR ANSWER AS TO HOW IT ENDED UP BEING THERE. 
          I ASSUME THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD A CELEBRATION WHEN IT WAS PUT UP,
OR THE CITY PARTICIPATED IN PUTTING IT UP ON THE LANDMARK. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN SAY IF THEY CONTRIBUTED,
WHY THEY'RE BEING RECOGNIZED FOR IT OR ANY RELATIONSHIP TO THAT PARK OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE KIND THAT YOU WANT US TO REVIEW
WITHIN 30 DAYS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN I CAN ALSO WORK WITH YOUR LIAISON TO MAKE SURE YOU GET
A RESPONSE FOR THAT PARTICULAR INQUIRY. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS ONE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY PROPOSED IT IN
THIS COMMISSION. 
          WE VOTED IT OUT. COUNCIL ACTUALLY ON AUGUST 5TH,
2025, VOTED TO REFER TO STAFF TO NAME THE SOUTH SIDE OF EATON PARK ON HARRIMAN LANE IN HONOR OF JOE
DAWIDZIAK, A FORMER COUNCIL PERSON. AND BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TODAY,
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT NOW, IF THIS POLICY IS ADOPTED, SHOULD BE COMING BACK STRAIGHT TO THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT FOR
A VOTE. 
          AM I MISREADING THAT? IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE HE DIED,
SO HE MEETS THAT CRITERIA. 
          HE MEETS ALL THE OTHER CRITERIA. HE WAS A COUNCIL PERSON. 
          HE WAS A FORMER SHERIFF'S OFFICER. HE WAS MILITARY. 
          HE WAS A HIGHLY RANKED MILITARY AND ENLISTED PERSON. 
          SO HE MEETS ALL YOUR CRITERIA. AND IT HAS BY COUNCIL OBAGI ACTUALLY REFERRING IT TO THE
STAFF TO NAME THE PARK. 
          SO IT'S MET EVERYTHING. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT ONE DIDN'T ALSO GO THROUGH THE SAME WAY THE
BILL BRAND PARK WENT THROUGH, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO BE THEN ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY,
OKAY, LET'S HAVE THE VOTE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REFERRED OVER A YEAR AGO. IT'S ACTUALLY AUGUST 5TH. 
          IT WAS REFERRED 2025. SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN FROM CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO PART OF IT IS COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI WAS PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE,
AND I KNOW HE DID BRING THAT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN IN DOING SOMETHING RETROACTIVE THAT MAY CONTRADICT
THE POLICY. 
          SO I WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM ON HOW THE DIRECTION HE WANTS TO TAKE,
GIVEN THAT THAT REFERRAL WAS MADE PRIOR TO THIS POLICY BEING DRAFTED. 
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BUT YOU ARE CORRECT IN IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THE POLICY AS IT IS,
THIS IN PARTICULAR ONE WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAD PROPOSED OR INITIATED THEMSELVES. 
          SO DOESN'T REQUIRE A FORMAL APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          SO THIS ONE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN. I WOULD NEED TO CONFIRM WITH THE
COUNCILMEMBER. OKAY. AND I HAVE JUST ONE MORE POINT ON THIS ONE. YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT IT CONTRADICTS THE POLICY, AND THAT'S THE PART I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. 
          WHERE DOES IT CONTRADICT THE POLICY? IT'S CONSISTENT WITH YOUR POLICY ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IS THE VOTE. 
          OH, I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY CONTRADICT. 
          IT JUST IT'S KIND OF OUT OF PLACE. SO THIS IS ALREADY,
TO YOUR POINT, BEEN REFERRED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          BUT THIS PARTICULAR POLICY IS NOT AN ENFORCEMENT JUST YET. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED FORMALLY. SO IT'S KIND OF CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG OR EGG BEFORE THE
CHICKEN KIND OF SCENARIO. 
          SO IF THIS POLICY WAS IN PLACE, THEN YOU'RE CORRECT THAT DAWIDZIAK REFERRAL WOULD HAVE
JUST FOLLOWED THE POLICIES INSTRUCTIONS. 
          THE DAWIDZIAK REFERRAL HAPPENED STILL WITH THIS POLICY BEING DRAFT MODE. 
          SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CONFIRM WITH CITY COUNCIL THAT THAT IS THEIR INTENT TO ACT UPON
THAT NAMING REFERRAL INDEPENDENT OF THIS POLICY BEING FORMALLY ADOPTED. AND TO CORRECT YOU, IT WAS BEFORE YOU DECIDED TO GO DRAFT A POLICY. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. I HAVE FOR THIS ROUND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. I HAVE NO COMMENT ON THIS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. NO COMMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER ROY? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ASK IF YOU COULD CLARIFY WHAT IS THE PROCESS
DIFFERENT? HOW DOES IT DIFFER FOR MAJOR FACILITIES VERSUS NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES? IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MAKE, THERE'S A NOTE THERE THAT THERE'S A 14 DAY PUBLIC NOTICE
FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES. 
          IS THAT ALSO FOR THE MAJOR FACILITIES AS WELL? IT'S JUST NOT ON THAT,
ON THAT POWERPOINT SLIDE. CORRECT. 
          SO THE NAMING PROCESS FOR A MAJOR FACILITY, IT'S VERY MUCH DRIVEN BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO DEPENDING ON THEIR TIMELINE AND WHEN THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL,
THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THERE'S A PUBLIC NOTICE PERIOD. 
          SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT THERE IS A BEING A NAME. 
          THERE IS A NAMING BEING CONSIDERED. OKAY. OKAY. 
          I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SURE. THE FEES THAT ARE TO BE PAID COULD THEY BE
PAID BY DONATION FROM A NON APPLICANT. COULD THEY BE RECEIVED. 
          THEY CAN. YES. THE APPLICATION ITSELF HAS LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW YOU ARE THE FINANCIAL BEHIND, HOW YOU'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR APPLICATION IF APPROVED. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS OR THE
RATIONALE BEHIND COLLECTING THE FEES AFTER IT'S BEEN APPROVED RATHER THAN BEFORE? AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT IS IN MAKING AN APPLICATION AND ASKING FOR THE FEES AT
THAT TIME, DOES IT HELP TO REDUCE NON-SERIOUS APPLICANTS AND REDUCE STAFF EFFORT ON POTENTIAL
REQUESTS? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE INTENT. AND THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT IF YOU ARE AS A MEMBER OF
THE PUBLIC SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION, IT'S A SERIOUS REQUEST FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO OR FOR STAFF TO CONSIDER COST OUT
EVERYTHING. 
          BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          AND THEN BASED ON THE DECISION YOU MAKE, KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL
PROCESS. 
          STAFF TIME AND YEAH, ULTIMATELY, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICATION AND APPLICANT
IS SERIOUS. 
          YEAH. NO, MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND COLLECTING THE FEES AFTER THE FACT? AM I NOT READING THAT CORRECTLY? SO COLLECTING THOSE FEES BEFORE IT'S APPROVED. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTION RATHER THAN AFTERWARD. BECAUSE THERE COULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THE
APPLICATION IS NOT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OR BY YOUR COMMISSION. OKAY. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS DOES IT REDUCE THE NON-SERIOUS APPLICANTS BY REQUIRING THEM TO PAY THAT APPLICATION FEE UP FRONT. 
          YES, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE APPLICATION FEE UP FRONT. 
          THE OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH AT YOUR POINT WOULD BE AT THE AT THE END. 
          OKAY. SORRY. AM I? YES. THE APPLICATION FEE IS NONREFUNDABLE. 
          THAT'S AT THE TIME OF SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          ALL THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT'S LISTED ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          STAFF TIME, LABOR COSTS, A SIGN, THE PLAQUE,
WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          THAT'S UPON 30 DAYS AFTER IT'S APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
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GREAT. YES. AND THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO COME TO OUR COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. 
          THOSE ALSO NEED A A COUNCIL PERSON TO APPROVE IT. 
          YES. THEY NEED ONE COUNCIL PERSON TO APPROVE. 
          CORRECT. YES. SO. IN MY MIND, IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF A COUNCIL PERSON,
WHY WOULD IT EVEN NEED TO COME TO US? THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. THEY STILL WOULD WANT THE COMMISSION,
GIVEN THAT YOU ARE THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION, TO STILL WEIGH IN AND AND CONSIDER THE MERITS OF WHAT THE NAME THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IN
FRONT OF YOU. 
          SO I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THE
APPLICATION JUST TO COME DIRECTLY TO US. AND THEN WE REVIEW IT AND THEN IT GOES DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL WITHOUT
NEEDING A COUNCIL PERSON'S, ONE COUNCIL PERSON'S APPROVAL. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT THAT REALLY STUCK OUT IN MY MIND. 
          LET ME JUST LOOK AT MY NOTES ONE SECOND. OKAY. 
          CAN WE GO BACK TO ITEM F.3 ON, ON THE DRAFT? DO WE HAVE THE DRAFT? JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT. I CAN PULL IT UP. NO WORRIES. 
          OKAY, SO ITEM F.3 ON THE DRAFT. YES. B AND C,
ITEM B AND C, YES. 
          UNLESS I'M NOT READING THIS CORRECTLY. SEEM A LITTLE BIT CONTRADICTORY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR THING. 
          REQUIRING A COUNCIL MEMBER TO TO INDICATE THE SUPPORT AND THAT IT SAYS OTHERWISE REQUESTS
MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK USING THE NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITY NAMING APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT WORD OTHERWISE. SO THE WAY I'M READING IT IS YOU EITHER GET A COUNCIL PERSON'S
APPROVAL OR IF YOU DON'T GET THE COUNCIL PERSON'S APPROVAL, THEN IT GOES ANYWAY THEY ACCEPT THE APPLICATION. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT IS A TYPO ERROR ON MY END. OKAY. THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE HANGING IN
THERE. 
          THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OF COURSE. I APPRECIATE YOU CATCHING. AND MAJOR
FACILITIES AND NEIGHBORING FACILITIES, BUT STILL ON ITEM F.3. BUT THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE PARK STRUCTURES THAT WAS REFERENCED
IN THE DEFINITIONS. 
          SO IS, ARE WE ADDING THAT IN OR? SO THE PARK STRUCTURES WE WANTED TO FIRST MAKE SURE TO DEFINE IT BECAUSE WE,
IT DIDN'T REALLY FALL NEATLY UNDER A NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITY. 
          AND THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN,
GOAL OR OBJECTIVE THAT CITY COUNCIL SET FOR US WAS A CITY NAMING. 
          CITY NAMING. SORRY, CITY FACILITY AND PARK POLICY. 
          SO WE STILL WANT TO ADDRESS THE PARK COMPONENT OF IT. 
          BUT THERE IS I THINK I'VE MENTIONED AND I CAN'T RECALL IF IT'S IN THE POLICY ITSELF,
BUT THERE'S A SEPARATE COMMEMORATIVE DONATION PROGRAM. 
          THAT PROGRAM IS STILL SEPARATE FROM THIS. AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONVOLUTE OR MUDDY THE
WATERS BETWEEN THE PROGRAM ITSELF. 
          SO IT WAS MORE INTENDED TO DEFINE A PARK STRUCTURE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE
STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE OR GOAL OBJECTIVE. 
          BUT IN THE POLICY ITSELF, WE DON'T REALLY ADDRESS IT BECAUSE WE'RE WE DON'T WANT IT TO
CONFUSE IT WITH THE THE EXISTING COMMEMORATIVE DONATION PROGRAM FOR PARKS. THAT'S CONFUSING ME TOO. AND, AND IN SAYING THAT,
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF MAYBE THE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER THAT THE PAC WOULD NAME SMALLER STRUCTURES LIKE THESE PARK STRUCTURES THAT WERE SMALLER
RATHER THAN IT GO TO THE COUNCIL ITSELF. THAT WAS MY ONLY OTHER POINT ON THAT. 
          OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. YES. GO AHEAD. 
          REGARDING TIMING. I KNOW IT SAYS THAT THE OUR COMMISSION WOULD PROVIDE RESPONSE WITHIN 30
DAYS OF SUBMISSION. 
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DOES THAT ACCOUNT FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUORUM NOT BEING PRESENT OR THE MEETING NOT
OCCURRING WITHIN 30 DAYS? SO WHAT HAPPENS IF IF THE COMMISSION MEETS 35 DAYS AFTERWARDS? I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I PROBABLY NEED TO ADJUST A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FOR
SOME FLEXIBILITY. YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE MEANT TO MAKE IT SO PRESCRIPTIVE. IT WAS MORE OF WE DIDN'T
WANT APPLICATIONS TO ALSO JUST KIND OF LINGER IN THE QUEUE AND WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THEM SO WE WANTED TO BE RESPONSIVE. HENCE THE SUBCOMMITTEE PUT THAT TIME FRAME,
BUT I'LL MAKE SURE TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO GIVE YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. 
          THANK YOU. I AGREE IT SHOULD BE DONE PROMPTLY. 
          I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT THERE ARE SCENARIOS THAT COULD PLAY OUT WHERE SUDDENLY THE
30 DAYS CAN'T BE MET, AND THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DENIED? SO I THINK SOME LANGUAGE THAT ADDRESSES THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. YES. YES. OKAY. SO YOU'RE REQUESTING FROM US TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK. 
          SO THIS IS OUR ONLY CHANCE TO DO THAT TONIGHT CORRECT? YES THAT'S CORRECT. SO PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THESE APPLICATIONS UP FRONT. 
          IS THERE AN APPEAL PROCESS THAT'S BUILT INTO THIS POLICY. 
          SO IF WE SAY NO THIS IS NOT GOOD. THAT'S FINAL? OR DOES IT GO UP BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR APPLICATION FEE IS GOING TO BE,
BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY SPENDS THE MONEY WOULD WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AT THIS TIME. AS THE DRAFT POLICY IS WRITTEN,
THERE IS NO APPEAL PROCESS. 
          OKAY. ARE YOU CONSIDERING WHAT? YOU'RE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK. YEAH. I CAN MAKE A NOTE OF IT. 
          IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR PEOPLE AS THE FEE. 
          IF IT'S GOING TO BE JUST A $200 FEE, THAT MAY BE ONE THING. 
          IF IT'S $1,000, PEOPLE START THINKING THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF VESTED RIGHT IN THERE. 
          OKAY. AND THEN ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES WHERE IT SAYS NAMING RESTRICTIONS. 
          I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS THE LAWYER IN ME COMING OUT. 
          I THINK IT'S YEAH, YOU JUST PASSED IT. OKAY. IT SAYS POLITICAL,
DISCRIMINATORY, PROFANE, OR OVERLY COMPLEX NAMES. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHO MAKES THAT DECISION? SO IN TERMS OF OVERLY COMPLEX NAMES, I THINK WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING IS NAMES THAT EITHER
WE CAN'T PRINT LEGIBLY ON A SIGNAGE OR A PLAQUE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE A CLEAR EXAMPLE,
BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OTHER NAMING POLICIES IN THE CITIES THAT WE DID SEE IN TERMS OF WHO DETERMINES. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING,
YOU KNOW, THE PAC IS THE FIRST LEVEL OF REVIEW AND WE'RE DEFERRING TO YOUR EXPERTISE TO HELP US DETERMINE IF IS THAT CONSIDERED OVERLY COMPLEX AND IT GOES TO THE
NEXT LEVEL OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO WE'RE JUST ENSURING THAT, AGAIN, THE NAMES ARE ADHERING TO THE CRITERIA THAT'S SET
FORTH IN THE POLICY. 
          DO NOT FALL UNDER ANY OF THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE RESTRICTED. 
          THAT'S WHY WE ARE KIND OF HAVING THIS TWO STEP APPROVAL PROCESS TO HELP US AS STAFF,
BUT ALSO CITY COUNCIL DETERMINE WHAT IS AN OBJECTIVE WAY OF, OF ASSESSING THESE NAME PROPOSED. OKAY, YOU MAY WANT TO JUST SEND THEM BACK TO YOUR TWO
LAWYERS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION AND OVERALL POLICY ON IT. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME AT THIS POINT. 
          I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO. 
          IF, FOR EXAMPLE SEASIDE LAGOON AS WILDERNESS PARK WAS WAS MADE A LANDMARK,
IF FOR EXAMPLE, SEASIDE LAGOON WAS LANDMARKED, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT RENAMING IT AT A FUTURE TIME? THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER NOW,
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO KNOW. 
          SURE. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN PRESENTED THIS ITEM IN SEPTEMBER,
THEY SAID THAT ANY RENAMING CONSIDERATIONS WOULD BE DONE BY 4/5 VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO PROMPT THE DISCUSSION. 
          BUT YES, WITH REGARDS TO LANDMARKS, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AT THIS TIME AND SO I CAN
REPORT BACK. 
          GOT IT. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. ONE MORE QUESTION,
ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          SO WE JUST HAD A DEDICATION OF A GREENHOUSE IN WILDERNESS PARK. 
          IS THAT THE NAMING OF THAT FACILITY SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK TO US TO LOOK AT? IF THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT'S SUBMITTED FOR IT,
YES. 
          OKAY. AND ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE A SCHEDULE OF THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT
POSSIBILITIES OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES AND LIKE, IF WE'RE GETTING THE PICKLEBALL VOTE TONIGHT,
CAN IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED? 
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THAT WOULD BE A NAMING OPPORTUNITY AS WELL? YES. 
          THE INTENT IS ONCE THE NAMING POLICY IS IN PLACE,
WE WOULD START CREATING KIND OF A COST SCHEDULE OR A MENU, PERHAPS. PERHAPS THAT'S A BETTER TERM WHERE IT'LL BE A PICKLEBALL OR A COURT X Y
DIMENSIONS. 
          ESTIMATED COST. SO IT'S LIKE A MENU FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. 
          THESE ARE WHAT ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT POTENTIALLY BEING AN APPLICANT FOR THIS. 
          AND THESE ARE MY OPTIONS DEPENDING ON HOW BIG OR SMALL WE WANT THE NAMING FACILITY FOR OR
THE NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITY TO CHOOSE FROM. AND COMMUNITY SERVICES IS GOING TO BE THE ONE COMING UP WITH THE SCHEDULE?
YES, IT'LL BE PART OF OUR MASTER FEE SCHEDULE. OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? SO NOW THAT WE'VE HAD ALL OUR COMMENTS IS THERE A MOTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BASED ON ALL OF THE FEEDBACK? I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT. I THINK YOU'VE MADE NOTES OF WHAT OUR COMMENTS
ARE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT. 
          UNLESS YOU WANT US TO DO AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE. 
          NO, I THINK RECEIVED, I RECEIVED ALL THE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK. 
          I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. THEY'RE VERY WELL TAKEN. 
          MAKE SURE TO RELAY IT BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          SO YES, I THINK RECEIVE AND FILE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T NEED TO FORMALLY WRITE SOMETHING AND SEND IT OVER
BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE TAKEN ALL YOUR NOTES. 
          YES. OKAY. I MEAN, THE COMMISSION IS ALWAYS WELCOME TO. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY WRITE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          GREAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? LET ME SEE. NOBODY ONLINE AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY
SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE AYE. AND THE MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO NOBODY AGAINST. CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION OF OUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER? YES. ANY PROGRESS ON THE SWAG MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? IT IS IT IS ONGOING EFFORT. WE DO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES ON KIND OF MAKING IT MORE OF A BRICK AND
MORTAR HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE AT ITEM L.3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE
ACTION REGARDING PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS AT AVIATION PARK. WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO OUR STAFF TO DO THE
PRESENTATION. 
          THIS PRESENT. PRESENT IS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. 
          SO IF YOU IF YOU HIT PC, YOU END UP BACK HERE. 
          PRESENTS UP THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION. MY NAME IS SEAN CHOTIKASATIEN,
A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. 
          FOR THIS ITEM, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS AT AVIATION PARK. 
          STARTING JUST I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE EXISTING PICKLEBALL FACILITIES
IN THE CITY STARTING WITH ALTA VISTA. 
          SO SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, BUT ONE OF THE TENNIS COURTS AT ALTA VISTA WAS CONVERTED INTO
FOUR DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          THE SURFACE WAS PERMANENTLY RESTRIPED. AND THERE ARE CITY PROVIDED PICKLEBALL NETS. 
          FOR THE REMAINING PICKLEBALL FACILITIES IN THE CITY. 
          THEY ARE SHARED WITH OTHER SPORTS, A DUAL USAGE COURTS,
AS SHOWN HERE AT FRANKLIN PARK AND PERRY PARK. 
          LINES FOR THE COURTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON EXISTING BASKETBALL COURTS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO
BRING A SET OF THEIR OWN NETS TO PLAY. 
          YOU CAN FIND SIMILAR ARRANGEMENTS AT ANDERSON PARK AND DALE BEACH PARK. 
          SO TO SATISFY THE DEMAND FOR DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS,
AVIATION PARK WAS TARGETED AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION WITH THE IDEA THAT IT COULD SUPPORT TOURNAMENT PLAY AND RESERVATIONS. JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT,
THE SPECIFIC AREA BEING DISCUSSED IS NORTHEAST OF THE CURRENT EXISTING GYM. SO IN 2021,
A FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS PREPARED TO PROVIDE A ROUGH CONSTRUCTION COST 
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ESTIMATE FOR SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH CAME OUT TO APPROXIMATELY $319,800. 
          JUST TO AS A DISCLAIMER, THIS IS FOR INCLUSION OF JUST BASIC COURT AMENITIES SUCH AS THE
CONCRETE PAD, COURT STRIPING, SOME FENCING AND GENERAL SITE WORK. 
          THE COST FOR AMENITIES THAT WERE DEEMED OPTIONAL WERE ALSO PROVIDED,
LIKE THE SPORTS COURT SURFACING AND COURT LIGHTING. 
          JUST ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES AND WERE DETERMINED
FOLLOWING SOME BROAD ASSUMPTIONS. 
          THE FEASIBILITY STUDY ALSO IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL SITE CONSTRAINTS AND CONSIDERATIONS AT THE
TIME. 
          PARKING STALLS NEXT TO THE FIELDS ARE ACTUALLY NOT WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO PLAYERS ARE SO ACCESSIBLE, PARKING FOR PLAYERS WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED
ELSEWHERE. 
          NO EXISTING LIGHTING ON THE FIELD MEANS THAT A POWER SOURCE FOR COURT LIGHTING WOULD NEED
TO BE IDENTIFIED, AND PROXIMITY TO NON-CITY FACILITIES MAY REQUIRE NOISE ABATEMENT AND SOME OF THE MATURE TREES ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE FIELD. 
          ROOT DAMAGE WAS OBSERVED IN THE ASPHALT AND CURBS NEARBY WHICH MAY IMPACT OUR PROPOSED
IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO FOLLOWING THIS SINCE THIS STUDY WAS CONDUCTED,
FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION OF PICKLEBALL COURTS AT AVIATION PARK. 
          SO FAR, STAFF HAS COMPLETED SOME TASKS ASSOCIATED WITH SITE EXPLORATION TO VERIFY EXISTING
SITE CONDITIONS. 
          A SITE SURVEY GEOTECHNICAL BORINGS WERE CONDUCTED TO PREPARE BASE FILES AND GEOTECHNICAL
REPORT. 
          AND IN AGREEMENT WITH A CITY WITH OUR ON CALL CONSULTANT. 
          THE SAME ONE THAT ACTUALLY DID PREPARE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IN 2021 WAS BROUGHT ON BOARD
TO PREPARE A DESIGN BUILD REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR RFP AND PRELIMINARY PLANS TO GO ALONG WITH IT. SO AT THIS TIME CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND. 
          IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT EVERY DESIRED COMPONENT. 
          BUT THERE IS A FINITE BUDGET AND OUR PRIORITY IS ADDRESSING ONES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO
OPENING THE COURTS FOR USE. 
          ELEMENTS IN RED HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO BE A PRIORITY,
WHILE ONES IN BLUE WILL BE INCLUDED IF POSSIBLE, BUT MAY NEED, BUT MAY NEED TO BE ADDED LATER AS FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SO WHERE'S THE RED? OH, YEAH. SORRY. I'LL GO. 
          I'LL, I'LL GO ONE BY ONE JUST SO IT DOESN'T CLOG UP THE,
THE PICTURE. 
          SO IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, JUST ONE THING TO MENTION IS THAT ONLY SIX COURTS WERE
CONSIDERED AT THE TIME. BUT PER RECENT DISCOURSE WITH AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 9TH THIS YEAR, WE UNDERSTAND THAT EIGHT COURTS IS DESIRABLE. 
          SO WE'RE STRIVING TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL COURTS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPOSED ORIENTATION OF THE COURTS LOOKS A LITTLE ODD
GIVEN THE SHAPE OF THE FIELD. 
          BUT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A NORTH SOUTH ORIENTATION TO MINIMIZE SUN GLARE FOR THE PLAYERS IN
LINE OF SIGHT. 
          ANOTHER THING FOR THE COMFORT OF THE PLAYERS IS WE WANT TO ESTABLISH,
OF COURSE, A RELATIVELY FLAT SURFACE TO PLAY ON BUT ALSO PROMOTE APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE TYPICAL SLOPE ON TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS IS ABOUT 1%. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR TARGET GRADE IS. JUST TO DO SO,
WE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A RETAINING WALL HAS BEEN ADDED AS SHOWN HERE ADJACENT TO THE WEST AND SOUTH WALKWAYS NEXT TO THE COURTS. 
          AND ALTHOUGH FENCING IS NOT TECHNICALLY MANDATORY TO PLAY PICKLEBALL,
IT IS A KEY ASPECT FOR THE CITY TO REGULATE ACCESS TO THE COURTS AND ALSO TO MONITOR THE PROPOSED RESERVATION SYSTEM. 
          TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, THERE IS A WALKWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDING THE COURTS TO PROVIDE
ACCESS TO ALL THE INDIVIDUAL ENTRANCES. 
          SO FOR SECONDARY ITEMS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT COURT LIGHTING IS CRUCIAL IN ALLOWING THE HOURS
OF OPERATION TO EXTEND INTO THE EVENING. 
          BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT COURT LIGHTING IS AN EXPENSIVE ADDITION AND THERE MAY NOT BE FUNDS
TO INSTALL IT AS PART OF THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO WE MAY ADD THEM AS FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE AND AFTER THE COURTS HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR USE. 
          I'VE LISTED HERE BLEACHER SEATING AS WELL. IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN AMENITY THAT
CAN BE ADDED AFTER THE COURTS HAVE BEEN OPENED FOR USE. 
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SO FOR OUR NEXT MILESTONE THAT WE'RE AIMING TO COMPLETE IS TO ISSUE THE DESIGN BUILD RFP. 
          WITH THAT, THERE ARE THREE MAIN ACTION ITEMS WE'VE IDENTIFIED. 
          ONE IS WE WANT TO REFINE THE SCOPE FOR THE DESIGN BUILDER JUST SO THAT IT CORRELATES AND
IT FOLLOWS AN ALLIANCE WITH THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT. 
          ALONG WITH THIS, FINALIZING THE PRELIMINARY PLANS SIMILAR TO THE CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT THAT
YOU SAW MOST RECENTLY THAT WILL HELP ASSIST IN DEFINING THE SCOPE OF WORK AND KIND OF DEPICTING A GENERAL OUTLINE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND AS MORE OF, AS IT'S MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM. 
          BUT BEFORE WE CAN ISSUE THE RFP, WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL FOR THE REVIEW AND
APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT ALL? YEAH. I GUESS JUST TO CONCLUDE THIS,
THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION AND PROVIDE ANY
INPUT ON DESIRED AMENITIES OR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR AND COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          COMMISSIONER ROY. NO QUESTIONS. I THINK WE DID HAVE SOME IN OUR FOLDER. 
          SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. YEAH, THAT'S THAT WAS WHAT I'LL SPEAK TO IT AFTER. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. AND I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THAT. 
          YES, SURE. AND COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. YES. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAYOUT. 
          IT DOES LOOK A BIT LIKE CROWDED. AND I SAW THAT IN THE RED,
IT WAS LIKE MORE PRIORITIZED TO HAVE EIGHT RATHER THAN SIX, I WONDER WHY? LIKE WHY? YEAH, SURE. I THINK,
YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK FIVE YEARS AGO WE THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE SIX. BUT GIVEN A RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE IDEA OF A TOTAL OF EIGHT
WAS DISCUSSED. 
          AND FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, I THINK HAVING MORE COURTS SOMETIMES IS MORE APPEALABLE TO
THE PUBLIC AND FOR EVERYONE. 
          SO WE DID OUR BEST TO FIT TWO ADDITIONAL COURTS TO KIND OF MEET THE DEMAND. 
          SO OKAY, SO I SAW IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO ME. 
          SO IN THE READ, IT WAS LIKE PRIORITIZED TO FIT MORE COURTS IN,
BUT IN THE BLUE, LIKE LIGHTING WAS SECONDARY. 
          AND THAT MAKES ME WONDER A LITTLE BIT LIKE, DO PEOPLE PLAY PICKLEBALL AT NIGHT? YEAH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PEOPLE DO. IT IS ALSO A DAYTIME ACTIVITY AS WELL. 
          SO OKAY. I THINK WE MAYBE WANT TO. OH. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          SO IF THE LIGHTING WERE NOT APPROVED BECAUSE IT EXCEEDED THE BUDGET,
THE HOURS THAT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE OPEN WOULD REFLECT THAT SO AS TO PREVENT POSSIBLE PLAYERS FROM PLAYING WHEN IT'S NOT SAFE TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SEE
PROPERLY. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. WE WOULD LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION IF WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING
FOR LIGHTING. 
          OKAY, SO THE CITY WOULD BE PROTECTED IN THE EVENT OF A. 
          AND THEN ONE OTHER KIND OF FINANCIAL QUESTION. 
          ARE WE SOLICITING BIDS FROM MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS FOR THE WORK? YEAH. SO WE, WE ISSUED AN RFP TO, TO MULTIPLE DESIGN BUILD TEAMS AND WE REVIEW THEIR
PROPOSALS. 
          YES. CORRECT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. I HAVE A COUPLE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO THE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE THE CITY DOESN'T ALLOW PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK BECAUSE OF THE NOISE LEVELS. 
          CORRECT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. YOU HAVE A CHILD CARE CENTER THAT'S THERE. 
          HAVE THE CITY APPROACHED AND DISCUSSED WITH THEM WHAT YOU KNOW? BECAUSE IF IT'S A PROBLEM IN THE LOCAL PARKETTE,
IT SEEMS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE INTERFERING WITH THE CHILD CARE CENTER. 
          HAVE YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THAT YET WITH THEM? YES. 
          HI. LAUREN SABLAN, CITY ENGINEER. WE RECENTLY THIS CHILD CARE CENTER,
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S CLOSING. 
          AND SO THE, THAT PARCEL THAT'S ADJACENT IS THERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT AT THIS
TIME. 
          SO IT WILL PROBABLY MOST LIKELY NOT CONTINUE TO BE A CHILD CARE DEVELOPMENT CENTER. 
          OKAY. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE LOCATION IS WHERE WE'RE PLANNING ON ONE TIME PUTTING A
POOL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. I READ IN ONE OF THE PAPERS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE
PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO MAKE THESE 
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TOURNAMENT QUALITY COURTS THAT WE COULD USE IN TOURNAMENT. 
          AM I MISREADING THAT? AND DOES THE 8 TO 6 CONFIGURATION CHANGE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY
BRING TOURNAMENTS TO THE AREA? WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE PROGRAMING SET FOR WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          DEFINITELY WOULD BE IDEAL TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TOURNAMENTS IF WE HAVE FUNDING TO EXECUTE
THAT. 
          SO YES, I EIGHT COURTS WOULD BE MORE IDEAL IF WE WERE TRYING TO LEAN INTO THAT. 
          OKAY. ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR AMPLIFICATION? SO IF YOU DO HAVE A TOURNAMENT,
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN, LIKE WE DID THE BASEBALL FIELD. 
          WE HAVE AN AMPLIFIED SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HEAR SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT
THEY'RE DOING, TALK ABOUT IT. IS THAT PART OF THE LAYOUT? WE HAVEN'T PLANNED OUT THAT FAR. 
          CERTAINLY IF IF WE'RE LOOKING TO PROGRAM THE SPACE,
THEN COMMUNITY SERVICES WOULD TAKE THAT BACK TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE SAID TOURNAMENTS OR PROGRAMING IN THAT SPACE. 
          OKAY. I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE ALTA VISTA EXPERIENCE THAT
YOU ARE BRINGING TO THIS SET OF COURTS. I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY LESSONS THAT WE'RE LEARNING THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          AND SO THERE WE WILL CERTAINLY, WHEN WE HIT THE POINT WHERE WE'VE DEVELOPED THE COURTS AND
THEN LOOK AT PROGRAMING, DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY. 
          WE DID THAT THE LAST TIME. AND I THINK THAT WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE EFFORTS. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE RESERVATION SYSTEM AND
ALTAVISTA AS FAR AS BEING AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS IN THE BLUE FOLDER FROM ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IS THE STAFFING VERSUS THE FENCING AND WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE A KEY ACCESS TO THE FACILITY OR NOT. 
          HAVE YOU EXPLORED THAT AT ALL? WE HAVE, WE PRESENTED IN THE BRR TO COUNCIL. 
          SO THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS, RIGHT. AND SO THE RESERVATION SYSTEM YES,
WE HAVE HAD SOME HICCUPS AT ALTAVISTA. 
          WE, I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE RESOLVED THOSE HICCUPS. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S HOW THE ACCOUNT IS ACTUALLY SET UP. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT OTHER RESERVATION
SYSTEM OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO MANAGE FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR OUR INTERNAL STAFF. SO SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL AS WE NAVIGATE
WHAT THAT PRICING WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AS FAR AS STAFFING AT THE LOCATION, WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WILL NEED TO GIVE US A DIRECTION. 
          RIGHT. ARE WE LOOKING AT A SYSTEM WHERE IT'S LIKE AN AUTOMATIC GATE SYSTEM THAT HAS
CONTROLLED ACCESS? SO YOU MAKE A RESERVATION ONLINE, YOU GET A CODE TO ACCESS THE COURT VERSUS STAFFING THE
LOCATION SIMILAR TO ALTAVISTA. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE COUNCIL WAS LEANING TOWARDS THE FIRST OPTION OF AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM. 
          BUT WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL IF WE WANT TO PROGRAM IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT. 
          OKAY. AND AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING GOES, SO MY EXPERIENCE IS WITH THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS
OVER AT SOUTH DOMINGUEZ PARK AND AT THE PERRY PARK. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE ACTUAL LITTLE
LEAGUE ENDED UP PAYING FOR AND UPGRADING. HAVE YOU EXPLORED AS PART OF YOUR OVERALL PROPOSAL? PARTNERING WITH PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, LINING THE OUTSIDE OR THE BLEACHERS WITH LIKE A
BRICKS OF PEOPLE WHO DONATED MONEY TOWARDS THE PROJECT? ARE YOU GOING TO ONLY RELY ON THE CITY'S MONEY,
OR ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO BRING IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY AS WELL AND GET SPONSORS OUT THERE? THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION FOR COUNCIL. 
          I AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ONLY LEANING ON WHAT HAS TRULY BEEN FUNDED. 
          AND SO SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. 
          NO COMMENTS. OKAY. I, I DO HAVE COMMENTS. I HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS. 
          SO BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          AND FIRST, I WANT TO GO BACK TO REFERENCING THE THE BRR REPORT OF JUNE 9TH. 
          AND IN THAT BRR REPORT IT INDICATED THREE SCENARIOS AS FAR AS THE CONTROLLED ENTRANCES, SCENARIOS ONE AND TWO ARE WITH CONTROLLED ENTRANCES. 
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AND SCENARIO THREE ARE WITH OPEN USE ENTRANCE. 
          THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS THERE ON THE ANNUAL REVENUE POTENTIAL. 
          AND SO THOSE NUMBERS AND INDICATED REFLECTED EIGHT COURTS AT THE TIME. 
          ON JUNE ON, IN THAT JUNE 9TH REPORT. SO THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL REVENUE WITH EIGHT COURTS FOR BOTH SCENARIOS, ONE AND TWO WAS 221,760. AND IN SCENARIO THREE WOULD BE 129,360. THE CONTROLLED ENTRANCES, WHETHER SINGULAR OR MULTIPLE, DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE ANNUAL REVENUE,
BUT IT MAY AFFECT THE COST OF PUTTING THOSE MULTIPLE ENTRANCES IN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE NUMBERS ON THAT. 
          SO I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. GOT IT. 
          DO WE HAVE. LET ME JUST GET TO MY. ONE SECOND. 
          SO THE NUMBER, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IS 1,195,000 FOR THE ENTIRE
PROJECT CURRENTLY, CORRECT? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED ALREADY. 
          WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL PROJECT IS GOING TO COST. 
          AND THAT'S BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION OF EIGHT COURTS CORRECT? YES. WITHOUT LIGHTING. AS WELL AS YOU KNOW OTHER TASKS AS WELL. 
          YES. AS WELL AS THE BLEACHERS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          CORRECT. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND. 
          SO IN YOUR REPORT, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE ALREADY CONDUCTED A GEOTECHNICAL TEST. 
          I IMAGINE THAT'S A SOIL TEST, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. 
          AND HAVE YOU CONDUCTED A PERCOLATION TEST? THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE. 
          INCLUDED. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE RESULTS ON THAT? YES. AND THEY WERE POSITIVE. YEAH. NO, NO OUTSTANDING ISSUES I THINK AT THIS TIME. 
          YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. IN REGARDS TO THE FOUNDATION OF THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REALLY QUITE IMPORTANT SINCE WE'RE WE'RE TAKING A FIELD THAT'S BEEN
SITTING THERE AND THEN NEEDING TO LAY DOWN COURTS, WHICH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS NOT GOING TO CRACK RIGHT AFTER WE'RE SPENDING OVER $1
MILLION POTENTIALLY MORE. 
          SO WHAT IS THE, CAN YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY IS THINKING IN TERMS OF THAT
FOUNDATION? ARE THEY GOING TO BE PUTTING REBAR IN OR ARE WE DOING LIKE POST INTENTION,
LIKE A POST INTENTION TYPE SLAB, WHICH IN MY UNDERSTANDING ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR EXPANSION JOINTS ALONG THE EDGES OF THE
COURTS. 
          YEAH. I THINK THE TWO OPTIONS YOU LISTED ARE LIKELY THE TWO SCENARIOS WE EVALUATE. 
          DOING POST TENSION CABLES WITH A CONCRETE SLAB IS NICE BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES THE JOINTS
THAT YOU SEE IN SOME CONCRETE AREAS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, KEEPS A FLATTER SURFACE AND EVERYWHERE AND TENDS TO BE A BIT STRONGER. 
          BUT REBAR CAN WORK. WE WOULD, IF WE DO HAVE EXPANSION OR WE DO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION
JOINTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO FILL THOSE IN WITH AN ACRYLIC SEALANT AS WELL. SO FROM THE PUBLIC EYE,
YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL TOO MUCH, BUT WE TRY TO EVALUATE BASED ON COST AND EFFICIENCY ON WHICH OPTION WE WOULD TAKE. 
          BUT YES, THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE TWO OPTIONS WE WOULD LOOK AT. 
          OKAY. SO THAT THAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE A QUESTION OF BUDGET,
PROBABLY AT LEAST ONE COMPONENT. 
          YES. CORRECT. OKAY. AND IF IN, YOU KNOW, OUR LOFTY PLANS IT'S DETERMINED THAT POST
INTENTION SLAB IS OUR BEST OPTION FOR THAT LOCATION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO
PUT IN THOSE SLEEVES FOR ELECTRIC AND AND THE FENCING AND ALSO THE NETTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH MORE DENSE AND STRONGER FOUNDATION
THAT, THAT THOSE SLEEVES WOULD NEED TO BE PUT IN AT THE TIME THAT THE FOUNDATION WAS POURED. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. CORRECT. I THINK WITH SLAB ON GRADE IN GENERAL,
YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE ALL YOUR CONDUITS IN PLACE BEFORE YOU POUR. 
          SO DURING THE TIME OF DESIGN, AFTER WE SELECT THE DESIGN BUILDER. 
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YES. WE EVALUATE OUR APPROACH TOWARDS THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION TO SEE IF AMENITIES SUCH AS
COURT LIGHTING WOULD BE INCLUDED. 
          OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND ARE YOU
PLANNING ON A SWALE RETENTION BASIN? NOT AT THIS TIME. THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT SO FAR. 
          SO I THINK WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING. 
          THERE'S NO OUTLIERS IN THE GRADE. SO FAR, WE'VE JUST PROPOSED A MINOR RETAINING WALL JUST
TO KEEP A FLAT SURFACE FOR THE COURTS AND KIND OF MAINTAIN THE SAME DRAINAGE PATTERN THAT IS IN THE FIELD NOW,
WHICH IS WHERE WATER IS FLOWING TO THE NORTHEAST. 
          THE NORTHEAST. GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS ON THE FOUNDATION OF IT. SO. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDING OF THE PROJECT. HAVE WE DONE, HAS,
HAS THERE ANY STUDY BEEN DONE TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN OUR SUCCESS RATE WITH ALTAVISTA? DO WE KNOW WHAT MANHATTAN BEACH'S SUCCESS RATE IS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE EXPECT
REALISTICALLY FOR OUR OWN FOR OUR OWN COURTS. AND DO WE EXPECT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE LESS THAN HALF A MILE
FROM MANHATTAN BEACH, WOULD THAT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO MAXIMIZE THOSE COURTS SO THAT WE GET THE
MOST AMOUNT OF REVENUE? DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED A STUDY. CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE AND MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS COMING
INTO THE SOUTH BAY. 
          I THINK THAT JUST WITH THE ONE TRANSITION OF THE COURT AT ALTA VISTA CURRENTLY TO DATE,
WE'VE BROUGHT IN 67,000 IN REVENUE FOR THAT ONE COURT. 
          SO THERE IS A NEED. WE HAVE NOTICED THAT IT'S MORE POPULAR IN THE MORNINGS THAN IN THE
EVENINGS. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          THERE CONTINUES TO BE A NEED FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          BUT WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED CONDUCTED A SPECIFIC STUDY ON THAT. 
          GOT IT. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE SEEING FEWER RESERVATIONS IN THE EVENINGS,
SLIGHTLY FEWER THAN THE MORNINGS, SLIGHTLY FEWER. AND IS THAT BOTH OPEN PLAY AND THE RESERVATIONS,
OR ARE YOU SEEING MORE MORE PARTICIPANTS DURING THE OR DROP. 
          IT'S CALLED DROP AND PLAY, NOT OPEN PLAY. JUST TO BE JUST TO HAVE THE RIGHT WORDS. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS. I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. 
          OKAY. REGARDING THE LIGHTING POTENTIAL FOR THE LIGHTING. 
          SO I WANT TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND LIGHTING AND THE PARKING. 
          SO WITH THE LIGHTING, WE ANTICIPATE OF COURSE PLAYING IN THE EVENING. 
          AND WE ARE NEXT TO THE PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY WHICH DURING THE WEEKENDS IN PARTICULAR HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SOME, SOME PARTS OF THE YEAR ARE CONSIDERABLY MORE BUSY SUCH AS DECEMBER AND I'M GOING TO
GO OFF MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE HAVING PRODUCED A SHOW THERE. AND IF YOU ARE AT FULL CAPACITY IN THAT LOCATION,
FOLKS ARE NEEDING TO GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO FIND PARKING. SO I AM, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PLANS ON
HANDLING NIGHTTIME PLAY AND SO THAT WE DON'T IMPACT YOU KNOW,
THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. SO I MEAN, IF WE'RE,
IF WE'RE ANTICIPATING EIGHT COURTS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW MANY PLAYERS THERE, HOW MANY CARS PLUS THE ADDITIONAL CARS OF FOLKS WHO ARE
COMING AND WAITING. 
          ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO. AND IF WE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE
THE PARKING IS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THE PARKING THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE COURTS. SO WHERE WHAT PARKING IS AVAILABLE TO US? OH, SORRY. I GUESS AT THIS TIME THE PARKING WOULD BE PARTICULARLY NEXT TO THE PERFORMING
ARTS CENTER AS WELL AS THE OPEN FIELD OUT THERE. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST PARKING FOR THIS SITE SO FAR NEXT TO THE SO NEXT TO THE TRACK OR
NEXT TO THE NEXT TO THE TRACK, NEXT TO THE TRACK. SO ON THE WEEKENDS, THE PARKING LOT THERE'S LIKE AN OVERFLOW PARKING
LOT THAT REDONDO IS ALLOWED TO USE 
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DURING THE EVENTS, CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S ONLY ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S NORTHROP'S PARKING. NORTHROP'S PARKING. 
          SO WE HAVE TO USE IT ONLY ON THE WEEKENDS. AND IT IS BEING UTILIZED BY THE PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER FOR THOSE EVENTS. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. AND SOME OF THOSE EVENTS RUN FRIDAY,
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 
          AND YOU HAVE PERFORMERS COMING IN AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND,
AND THE NIGHT. 
          JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS TO STUDY HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THINGS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I, I, I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO. 
          OKAY. AND BASED ON THESE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE SORT OF,
AND IDEAS AND THOUGHTS THAT I'VE, I'VE PUT OUT THERE, I, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE SCALE OF OF THE PROJECT. 
          SO WE HAVE EIGHT COURTS THAT ARE ENVISIONED. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ NOTED THAT IT'S REALLY PRETTY TIGHT IN THERE. I NOTE THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ALL EIGHT COURTS
BASED ON FUNDING ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE CONSIDERING ALSO HAVING LIGHTS AND. 
          YOU KNOW, IT, WHEN I WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE ALTA VISTA COURTS,
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS SAID IS, YOU KNOW NOT ONLY ARE WE PARK POOR IN THIS CITY,
BUT WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO SHARE THE VERY LITTLE THAT WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DIVERSIFY OUR PORTFOLIO OF OFFERINGS SO THAT EVERYBODY
GETS A LITTLE SOMETHING. 
          SO IF IF WE COULD SHARE MY PRESENTATION NOW,
I WANT TO GO OVER SOME THOUGHTS THAT I HAD PUT TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. SO WHAT I DID WAS I, I TOOK THE THE IMAGE THAT WAS SENT TO US AND I,
AND I REWORKED THE WALKWAYS. SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE BLUE LINES INDICATE WHERE THE NEW WALKWAYS WOULD BE. 
          THE BIGGEST CHANGE WOULD BE THAT THERE IS A WALKWAY THAT GOES DOWN IN BETWEEN THE NORTHERN
COURTS AND THE SOUTHERN COURTS. 
          THE REASON WHY THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IS BECAUSE IF WE MAKE IT WIDE ENOUGH,
IF WE CAPTURE THE WALKWAYS FROM BOTH THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM, IF YOU NOTICE THAT I SAY REMOVE THIS WALKWAY AND REPOSITION. 
          IF WE REMOVE THOSE WALKWAYS AND PUT THE WIDTH OF THOSE WALKWAYS ON THE INSIDE,
THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT, AND WE COULD HAVE ROOM ENOUGH TO HAVE BENCHES FOR OUR PLAYERS ALONG ALL THOSE
AREAS. 
          AND WITH FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCING, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING USED IN,
FOR EXAMPLE, EL SEGUNDO HAS A FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCING WITH THEY HAVE,
I WAS JUST THERE THIS MORNING AS A MATTER OF FACT PLAYING THEY HAVE SOME PROTECTIVE FOAM ON TOP OF THE FENCING SO THAT IF PEOPLE BACK UP AGAINST IT,
THEY'RE PROTECTED. 
          IT'S ALSO BEING USED IN INDIAN WELLS, WHICH IS A PREMIER TENNIS FACILITY. 
          THEY USE A COMBINATION OF FOUR FOOT FENCING AS WELL AS SOME NETTING TYPE FENCING IN
BETWEEN THE COURTS. 
          AS A PICKLEBALL PLAYER, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT
WITH THE OTHER COURTS ALLOWS FOR EASIER FLOW OF THE PLAYERS SO THAT IF YOU ARE DOING EVEN A SMALL
TOURNAMENT OR YOU'RE DOING A ROUND ROBIN SITUATION OR AN OPEN PLAY,
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REALLY, YOU CAN REALLY ACCESS THESE COURTS MUCH 
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MORE EASILY WITH A CENTRAL WALKWAY AND THE BENCHES THERE SO THAT FOLKS DON'T,
THEY'RE NOT SITTING ON TOP OF THE COURTS, AND I WOULD POSITION THE PADDLE RACKS IN THE ALONG THE MIDDLE TWO COURTS RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THERE, IF YOU NOTICE THE LITTLE GREEN DASHES,
THOSE WOULD BE ENTRY GATES. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE ONE MAIN ENTRY GATE TO ACCESS SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS,
AND YOU WOULD HAVE ONE MAIN GATE TO ACCESS THE STANDALONE COURT ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          THE, THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF THE CITY WANTED TO,
YOU COULD HAVE SIX COURTS FOR OPEN PLAY GOING ON, AND YOU COULD STILL HAVE ONE FOR RESERVATIONS. 
          SO THAT GIVES PEOPLE FLEXIBILITY, GIVES THE CITY FLEXIBILITY,
BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO RESERVE THAT ONE COURT DURING OPEN PLAY TIMES. THAT SAID, BASED ON MY CONCERN FOR FUNDING, BUT ALSO MY CONCERN FOR HAVING AN OVERLOAD,
IF THAT'S EVEN A THING OF PICKLEBALL COURTS, YOU KNOW TORRANCE JUST ADDED A WHOLE NUMBER. 
          PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE'VE GOT EL SEGUNDO THAT HAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL FACILITY. 
          I, I'M SEEING THAT WITH THE INCREASE OF THE NUMBER OF COURTS,
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT SORT OF WATERS, IT SENDS PEOPLE INTO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS,
SEE. 
          AND SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE OUR OUR AVAILABLE FUNDING,
I WOULD SAY THAT HAVING SEVEN COURTS WITH LIGHTING, PUTTING OUR MONEY INTO THAT POT AND THEN ALLOWING OR GIVING
THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO HAVE A SPOT RIGHT THERE. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          THERE'S A. I INCLUDED SOME PHOTOS ON THE BOTH EL SEGUNDO AND INDIAN WELLS SO YOU CAN SEE
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN SEE EACH OTHER AND BE ABLE TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN
THE COURTS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING A COMMUNITY GARDEN, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS TO SORT OF GIVE THE
COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT A COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND THE REASON WHY, IF YOU WOULD KINDLY GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 190 PEOPLE ON A, ON A WAIT LIST,
AND ABOUT TEN PEOPLE ON AVERAGE SIGN UP MONTHLY TO ADD TO THAT LIST. AND THE WAIT TIME IS 3 TO 7 YEARS. AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING,
HAVING SPOKEN TO THE GARDEN FOLKS, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO FIND A LOCATION IN NORTH REDONDO. 
          THERE IS NO LAND AND THEY ARE HAVING A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME FINDING A PLACE TO PUT IN A
COMMUNITY GARDEN SO THAT THE FOLKS IN NORTH REDONDO WOULD HAVE ACCESS. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SLIDE KINDLY. 
          OKAY. ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT OVER BY THE BLEACHERS,
WHETHER OR NOT YOU KEEP THEM, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING IN A SHADE STRUCTURE THERE BECAUSE IT APPEARS
THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE NICE FOR IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU WANTED TO RUN SOME SORT OF
EVENT, THEN YOU WOULD ALREADY HAVE A SHADE STRUCTURE THERE. 
          PLUS FOR PEOPLE WAITING THAT ARE NOT ON THE COURTS THEY COULD HAVE A PLACE TO SIT AND IF
POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN IN THAT AREA BECAUSE PICKLEBALLERS ARE USUALLY
THIRSTY. 
          AND I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS FACILITIES. WOULD PEOPLE BE ACCESSING THE FACILITIES,
THE BATHROOMS IN THE GYM? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE, THE FACILITIES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE TRACK. 
          FACILITIES CLOSE. OH, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND AND ACCESS THOSE
FACILITIES. 
          OKAY. SO THAT LEAVES THAT THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AT ANY POINT TO MAKE A FREESTANDING FACILITY IN THIS LOCATION OR WOULD THAT LIKE REQUIRE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE? YEAH, I TO MY KNOWLEDGE I DON'T KNOW IF A DISCUSSION WAS HAD ABOUT FACILITIES LIKE THAT. 
          FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. YES. IT WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFICALLY EVEN FOR THE DRINKING
FOUNTAIN. 
          WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHERE THE CLOSEST WATER MAIN AND SANITARY SEWER MAIN IS TO SEE
WHERE WE WOULD PULL A LATERAL FROM. 
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AND FROM THERE WE CAN KIND OF NARROW DOWN THE EFFORTS AND COST IT WOULD TAKE TO ESTABLISH
A FACILITY LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. AND LASTLY, BUT NOT LEASTLY. THERE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF VERY LARGE TREES ALONG
THAT GRASSY AREA. AND I, I REALLY HATE TO TAKE DOWN TREES,
I REALLY DO. 
          WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THOSE TREES? HAVE WE, DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT SIGNIFICANTLY TRIMMING THEM DOWN TO A TO A WAY
IN WHICH THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LITTER THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH IS BOTH DANGEROUS AND ALSO,
YOU KNOW, FOR STAFF, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE CLEANING THAT UP. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. CURRENTLY IN OUR TREE INVENTORY IN OUR GIS. 
          THESE TREES ARE ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY,
SO THEY ACTUALLY ARE NOT AT THIS TIME, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT OWNED BY THE CITY. SO AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE ON CLEANING LEAVES,
I THINK RIGHT NOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE THAT FIELD IS NOT BEING OCCUPIED BY ANYTHING. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD WITH POTENTIALLY NORTHROP GRUMMAN OR THE NEW
OWNER. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE RECENTLY THAT PARCEL WAS SOLD. 
          AND THERE ARE PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT MAY NEED TO BE ROLLED INTO THAT DISCUSSION
WITH THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONE WHERE THE NURSERY IS. 
          YES. CORRECT. SO ACTUALLY. OH, SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          YEAH. SO ACTUALLY THE, THE PROPERTY BASICALLY TO THE NORTH WEST,
NORTH EAST AND SOUTH EAST IS ACTUALLY ONE PARCEL. 
          IT LOOKS A LITTLE ODD. YEAH. I THINK IT'S OKAY IF YOU SEE THE PROPERTY LINES,
IT'S A LITTLE ODD HOW IT'S PLACED. 
          BUT YES, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL ONE PROPERTY. THAT'S ALL ONE PROPERTY. INTERESTING. THAT'S
WHY WE CAN'T USE THE PARKING THERE. CORRECT. YES. SO IT CURRENT. 
          WELL CURRENTLY A SERVICE NORTHROP GRUMMAN EMPLOYEES AND FOR THEIR SERVICES. 
          BUT POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE IT ACTUALLY WILL SERVE A DEVELOPMENTS FOR TOWN HOMES OR
APARTMENTS. 
          SO A LOT CAN CHANGE IN THAT AREA IN THE NEXT,
YOU KNOW, COUPLE YEARS. 
          SO FOR ALL OF THOSE TREES, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH NORTHROP. 
          OR. YES OR THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER. YES. CORRECT. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE THEY DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY,
THEY MAY BUILD SOMETHING IN THAT AREA AND THEY MAY CUT IT DOWN THEMSELVES. BUT AS OF NOW THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT ACTUALLY WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. 
          GOT IT. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S IT FOR ME. DOES ANYBODY. 
          YEAH. AND THERE WILL BE QUICK. IS AVIATION PARK CITY OWNED OR IS IT OWNED BY THE SCHOOL
BOARD? YEAH. SO THE UNDERLYING OWNER IS ACTUALLY A SCHOOL DISTRICT,
BUT THE CITY HAS RIGHTS TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          LONG STANDING LEASE. OKAY. AND I KNOW I'M GETTING WAY AHEAD,
BUT A GOOD SOURCE OF FUNDRAISING IS THE AVIATION HIGH ALUMNI THAT STILL ARE ACTIVE AND PARTICIPATING IN THE AREA. 
          AND THEY MAY ACTUALLY WANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP RAISE FUNDS FOR YOU
GUYS ON THAT. 
          WHAT I IS, IS TERRY, ARE YOU TERRY CARTER? OKAY,
PERFECT. 
          SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I SEE THE POTENTIAL OF STARTING A NEW TRADITION OF
HAVING A TOURNAMENT, SIX COURTS OR EIGHT COURTS ACTUALLY GIVES YOU ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO CIRCULATE THAT. 
          ARE YOU IN DISCUSSIONS YET? I KNOW WE'RE JUMPING WAY AHEAD,
BUT ARE YOU IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE EVEN HAVING AN INAUGURAL TOURNAMENT ONCE THE FACILITY IS OPEN? NOT AT THIS MOMENT. OKAY. YEAH. 
          AND THEN THIS ONE HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED YET. BUT WHAT'S THE,
OKAY. 
          FROM TODAY, WHAT'S THE PROJECTED TIME TILL THE COURTS WOULD BE OPEN? APPROXIMATELY BASED ON WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS DOING STUFF IN THE CITY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A PERK ON WHY WE'RE APPROACHING THIS PROJECT AS A DESIGN BUILD IS AN
ACCELERATED TIMELINE. 
          AND THAT IS OUR GOAL TO KIND OF GET COURTS OPEN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. 
          TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO BE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME IN
MAYBE LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER OF 2027 OF NEXT YEAR AND HOPEFULLY GET THE COURTS OPEN BY FALL OF 2027. 
          SO BY THE END OF 2027, IT'LL BE THERE BEFORE THE OLYMPICS,
FOR EXAMPLE. 
          OH, YES. CORRECT. IT SHOULD BE BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVE A GREAT MARKETING OPPORTUNITY FOR REDONDO BEACH. 
          IF THESE THINGS ARE BUILT IN TIME TO ACTUALLY DO STUFF WITH IT IN A MASSIVE SCALE. 
          OKAY. THAT'S OH, AND I SHOULD MENTION THIS IS A PRIORITY,
BY THE WAY, FOR TWO CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. 
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COUNCILMAN BEHRENDT AND COUNCILMAN OBAGI HAVE STATED AS A PRIORITY,
SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL FAST TRACK THAT WAY. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IS THAT IT? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. FROM SUZANNE,
SUZANNE HIGGINS ON ITEM L.3. 
          THANK YOU. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SUSAN HIGGINS AND I'M A 36 YEAR REDONDO BEACH
RESIDENT. 
          I'M HERE WITH MY FRIENDS TERRY AND SHANNON GUNNER CARTER,
WHO ARE BOTH USA P, USA PICKLEBALL AMBASSADORS FOR REDONDO BEACH. CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL PICKLEBALL INSTRUCTORS,
CERTIFIED PICKLEBALL REFEREES, AND PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS. 
          TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THEY'RE SITTING RIGHT HERE. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANT TO TALK TO. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF A LARGE NUMBER OF THE
LOCAL PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY, AND SPECIFICALLY ON BEHALF OF MY REDONDO BEACH RESIDENTS PICKLEBALL PLAYERS GROUP. 
          WE WERE ELATED WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE AVIATION PARK PICKLEBALL FACILITY IN
MARCH OF 2024, AND THEN FUNDED IT TO TODAY'S VALUE OF 1.2 MILLION,
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S LIKELY TO COST 1.5 MILLION. 
          AND THAT'S ALL WRITTEN UP IN PUBLIC RECORD. AND THAT HAPPENED IN JUNE 2026. 
          WE WERE EXCITED THAT BOTH D5 COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT AND D4 COUNCIL MEMBER OBAGI MADE THE
CIP PICKLEBALL FACILITY THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. 
          TERRY AND I PREPARED OUR COMMENTS REGARDING THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS PROPOSED PICKLEBALL
COURTS AT AVIATION PARK ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT AS WRITTEN AND ITS ATTACHED CONCEPTUAL SITE LAYOUT. OUR EMAIL TO THE CITY AND IT WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS
DIRECTOR, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER BEHRENDT COUNCIL MEMBER
OBAGI IS IN YOUR BLUE FOLDER FOR THIS MEETING. OUR EMAIL IS IS IN THE MEETING,
SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS. 
          ALL OF OUR COMMENTS IN ANY DETAIL. I WANT TO MAKE THIS SPEECH SHORT. 
          I WANT TO QUICKLY COVER FIVE TOPIC TOP ISSUES WITH THE DESIGN. 
          AND THESE ARE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR SPECIFIC ORDER OF IMPORTANCE. 
          ONE. WALKWAYS. WE ADDRESSED THAT. THEY SHOULD BE ADDED WITH BENCHES INSTEAD OF AROUND THE
PERIMETER. 
          FENCING 12FT HIGH FENCES AROUND THE FACILITY PERIMETER AND FOUR FEET HIGH FENCES WITH
GATES AROUND COURT SHOULD BE ADDED. 
          ACCESS TO COURTS. I KNOW THIS CAME UP IN THE BRR AND I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BUDGET
MEETING. 
          I WAS THERE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO RECONSIDER THE USE OF ELECTRONIC ENTRY TO EACH COURT
FOR SURE, THIS IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO PICKLEBALL PLAY. CONSIDER USING STAFF ON SITE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LITTLE FACILITY THERE, OR HAVING 1 OR 2 MAIN ELECTRONIC ENTRY POINTS VIA
THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER FENCING. 
          FOUR, BARRIERS, RETAINING WALLS. IT'S A GOOD IDEA,
THE RETAINING WALL TO, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THE SURFACE RELATIVELY FLAT PLAYING SURFACE. BUT A BARRIER WALL REALLY NEEDS TO GO UP NEXT TO THE NORTHROP GRUMMAN PARKING
LOT, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN OPEN FIELD, UNDEVELOPED FOR DECADES. 
          THANK YOU. AND NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING A PICKLEBALL FACILITY. 
          THANK YOU, MISS HIGGINS. YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. 
          QUESTION. YES. HOW MANY PICKLEBALL PLAYERS ARE IN THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS GROUP? I'M SORRY. MY TIME WAS NOW, TO CLARIFY, I'M ASKING YOU TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID. 
          I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? IT SAYS HERE THAT YOU THERE IS A RESIDENCE PICKLEBALL
PLAYERS GROUP. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT? I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR THE REVENUE,
BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PICKLEBALL PLAYERS. 
          IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN THE UNITED STATES,
IF NOT AROUND THE WORLD. 
          YOU SAY YOU'RE THE LEAD FOR THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY PICKLEBALL PLAYERS YOUR GROUP REPRESENTS. 
          SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. 
          HOW MANY? I HAVE A GROUP OF OVER 200 PICKLEBALL PLAYERS. 
          THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? FOR MY SPECIFIC REDONDO BEACH RESIDENCE PICKLEBALL
PLAYERS GROUP HAS BEEN WORKING TO GET THIS AVIATION PARK. 
          I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO. YOU SAY THAT THE GROUP LEADER. I WAS JUST TRYING
TO GET A NUMBER AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT. 
          SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? 
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NOBODY ONLINE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY LAST COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION AFTER HAVING HEARD THE PUBLIC, CAN YOU PUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER UP ON THIS? SURE. MAYBE ELAINE CAN HELP WITH THAT. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. SO, CHAIR, HAVE WE DISCUSSED? I SAW YOUR PROPOSAL, BUT DID WE DISCUSS OTHER INPUT THAT WE WANTED THERE,
OR HOW IS THAT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION ULTIMATELY? HOW IS HOW IS WHAT EXACTLY? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. 
          RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION IS REAL SIMPLE,
BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT INPUT ON DESIRED AMENITIES. 
          YOU'VE MADE A INSTEAD OF EIGHT, YOU'VE MADE A SEVEN PLUS A GARDEN PROPOSAL. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED US TO FORMALIZE? AND THIS IS ACTUALLY TOWARDS STAFF. DO YOU NEED US TO FORMALIZE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION,
OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO COLLECT ALL THE THOUGHTS AND THEN REPORT BACK TO YOUR DIRECTORS OR THE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER ABOUT WHAT OUR INPUT WAS? I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING AS DIFFERENT FROM THE EIGHT COURTS THAT
SHOULD PROBABLY BE FORMALIZED TO CITY COUNCIL. SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS ABOUT WALKWAYS AND SEATING LOCATIONS,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEFINITELY GATHERED THE FEEDBACK ON. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN DIRECTED BY
COUNCIL THAT I FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE FORMALIZED FROM THE COMMISSION TO COUNCIL, SO I THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFYING QUESTION. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. 
          SO IN THAT DOES ANYBODY FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE BASED ON WHAT I HAD PRESENTED TONIGHT FROM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT? YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE YOUR OWN MOTIONS TOO. YEAH. I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE
WANTS TO. YOUR, YOUR PLAN INCLUDED THE LIGHTING, RIGHT? MY PLAN INCLUDED THE LIGHTING,
SEVEN COURTS PLUS LIGHTING AND ALLOWING THAT ONE THE ONE COURT TO BE AVAILABLE. SHOULD THE SHOULD THE COMMUNITY GARDEN NEED IT. 
          SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT UP TO US TO DECIDE ON A COMMUNITY GARDEN. 
          MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO WAS JUST A THOUGHT AS TO WHAT COULD BE DONE IF WE REDUCED THE
SCOPE TO SEVEN COURTS SO THAT WE ENSURED THAT WE GOT SEVEN COURTS PLUS THE LIGHTING RATHER THAN,
THAN NOT. 
          CAN I ASK STAFF A CLARIFYING QUESTION? WHEN WE MOVED FROM 6 TO 8 COURTS,
WAS THAT IS THAT DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO SORT OF MAXIMIZE THE SPACE? IS THAT WAS THAT WHERE THAT THAT THAT CAME FROM? YES. CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO SINCE WE, I DO BELIEVE TWO COUNCILMAN HAVE MADE THIS A
PRIORITY. 
          ARE, ARE THEY ALSO YOU KNOW, ON BOARD OR IS THERE A DIRECTION TO TRY AND GET,
GET EIGHT COURTS TO TRY AND MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF, OF PICKLEBALL COURTS AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. I GUESS AS FAR AS THEIR INTENT TO
MAXIMIZE, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 9TH EARLIER THIS YEAR,
THEY DID CONSISTENTLY REFERENCE EIGHT COURTS. 
          SO STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE EXPECTATION IS EIGHT COURTS. 
          AND THEN GOING BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE RED AND THE BLUE. 
          I DO NOTE THAT LIGHTING WAS IT WAS A BLUE COMPONENT AS WELL AS SORT OF THE,
THE, THE ADDITIONAL SEATING AND BLEACHER SEATING. 
          BUT IS, AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING THAT IS SORT OF,
IF THE BUDGET ALLOWS THE GOAL IS TO INCLUDE LIGHTING AND INCLUDE THE EXTRA SEATING. 
          AND UNTIL IT SORT OF ALL SHAKES OUT, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE INCLUDED
OR NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          CORRECT. YES. I THINK JUST THE DELINEATION BETWEEN THE RED AND BLUE ITEMS IS MOSTLY TO
IDENTIFY WHICH AMENITIES ARE CRITICAL IN THE INITIAL OPENING OF THE COURTS. ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND THAT COURT LIGHTING IS HIGHLY
PREFERABLE, THE COURTS CAN OPERATE DURING THE DAY WITHOUT THEM. 
          AND SO IF THERE IS A LIMITED BUDGET THAT CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE COURT LIGHTING,
THEN WE WOULD PROCEED WITHOUT THEM. 
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OKAY. AND THEN JUST ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. SINCE PARKING WILL PRIMARILY BE AROUND THE
TRACK FACILITY THAT'S THERE. 
          IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A BATHROOM FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE PARKING AT
THE TRACK FACILITY AS WELL AS THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN FACILITY? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS. 
          OKAY. THE FIRST IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION,
WHICH I THINK IS THE LEAST DIFFICULT ONE. 
          OKAY. SO WE CAN TAKE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION. 
          CORRECT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND THE SECOND. 
          AND SINCE WE'RE ONLY AN ADVISORY BODY I WOULD LIKE THE BEST SCENARIO TO SHOW UP WITH THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMAN BEHRENDT AND OBAGI ARE WATCHING
THIS OR WILL BE WATCHING THIS AT SOME POINT. 
          BUT I SEE THE BENEFIT OF A COMMUNITY GARDEN IN THERE TOO,
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE STRUGGLES THEY'VE BEEN HAVING TO GET SOMETHING IN NORTH REDONDO. 
          BUT I THINK AS A RECOMMENDATION, WE COULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF
WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. 
          THEY CAN SAY, NOPE, WE WANT EIGHT AND WE'RE DONE WITH IT,
BUT AT LEAST GET THAT FORMALLY IN FRONT OF THEM, EITHER THROUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR WHATEVER,
TO SEE IF THAT'S AN OPTION, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE INPUT I THINK THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE COUNCIL. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. SO CAN YOU CAN YOU REPHRASE THAT IN A MORE
SUCCINCT WAY, PLEASE? THAT WE REQUEST THAT THE THE COUNCIL LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL TO HAVE SEVEN COURTS PLUS A COMMUNITY GARDEN CONSISTENT WITH THE SLIDE THAT COMMISSIONER
GALASSI PRESENTED. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW IT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO,
BUT JUST SO THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER IT. 
          OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. CAN WE TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE,
PLEASE? COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROY. AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          AYE. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. AYE. COMMISSIONER GAMBLE AYE. 
          AYE. OKAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
          WAIT, ONE MORE THING. ARE YOU GOING TO BE REPORTING BACK TO US ANYTHING OR IS THIS
SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT COUNCIL DOES? I THINK WE'LL DISCUSS THAT INTERNALLY. WE'RE WE'RE NOT. 
          WE KIND OF HAVE TO DISCUSS HOW SIGNIFICANT THE CHANGES ARE AND SEE IF THAT BRINGS UP AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR ANSWERING ALL OUR
QUESTIONS. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY,
WELL, WE'RE UP TO L.4 WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CANCELLATION OR RESCHEDULING OF THE PUBLIC AMENITIES COMMISSION'S REGULAR
MEETING ON NOVEMBER 11TH DUE TO THE VETERANS DAY HOLIDAY. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT? I'LL DEFER TO COMMISSION. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT CANCELLATION OR A SPECIAL MEETING, WHATEVER THE DECISION IS THAT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT ON ATTENDANCE. 
          SO I KNOW THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT COMMITMENT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT I BELIEVE OUR NEXT OUR DECEMBER MEETING WOULD BE
DECEMBER 9TH. 
          SO THAT IS PRETTY EARLY IN THE MONTH. WE DO HAVE THE TWO SIGNIFICANT HOLIDAYS IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO I JUST WOULD LIKE COMMISSION TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH WHATEVER OPTION YOU
CHOOSE, BUT I'D LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO COMMISSION. THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IF WE VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY TO CANCEL THE MEETING. 
          THERE'S NO OTHER OPTIONS TO HAVE A MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE,
THE NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THE CHAMBERS ARE BEING UTILIZED, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, A WEDNESDAY, THE WEDNESDAY AFTER. 
          THE DATES THAT WE HAVE LISTED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE HAVE
TO DETERMINE AVAILABLE TO COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, COMMISSIONER MAROKO. SO NOVEMBER 4TH,
I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE, BUT SO I WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ABSENCE THING. 
          BUT I WILL NOTE THE ELECTION IS ON NOVEMBER 3RD. 
          AND WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE THE CHAMBER IS ACTUALLY FILLED WITH ELECTION EQUIPMENT DURING
THAT TIME. 
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SO THAT ONE'S PROBABLY NOT A REAL OPTION. I DO WANT TO TAP INTO THE ENTHUSIASM OF
COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, AND I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND DISCUSS IT. 
          AND ASSUMING WE'RE BOTH ON THE THE COMMITTEE AND THEN COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH
SOMETHING SO WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND GET SOMETHING GOING ON IT. SO I WOULD I WOULD FAVOR THE NOVEMBER 16TH AND NOVEMBER
18TH DATE IF WE'RE DOING IT. 
          PROBABLY THE 18TH WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE WE MEET ON WEDNESDAYS ANYWAY. 
          SO THAT MAY BE LESS OF A BURDEN ON EVERYBODY. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO HAVE A MEETING. YEAH,
A FORMAL, A SPECIAL. 
          WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED A SPECIAL MEETING WHICH HAS DIFFERENT RULES ON IT AS WELL. 
          THERE'S A 24 HOUR RULE FOR HOSTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IF YOU DO THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING, THE AGENDA PACKET HAS TO BE OUT PROBABLY IN OCTOBER
STILL. 
          AND THEN IT'S NOT GIVING IT. WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT KIND OF IS A BAD DAY AS WELL. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? WE HAVE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, ALERTED OUR DEPARTMENTAL LIAISONS. 
          WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY INDICATION REGARDING POTENTIAL ITEMS YET. 
          OF COURSE, IT'S STILL EARLY FOR NOVEMBER, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION THAT
THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER AS FAR AS POTENTIAL ITEMS. YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION IS IF WE WERE ANTICIPATING
HAVING ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE COMING UP OR. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT I KNOW THAT ELAINE,
OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR HAS ALERTED THEM TO THIS, OBVIOUSLY SO THAT THEY ARE AWARE, BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY INDICATION THAT THEY WERE
NECESSITATED A MEETING IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A POSITIVE INFORMATION REGARDING THE NEED FOR MEETING IN NOVEMBER. 
          GOT IT. DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? ANY ANY THOUGHTS ON SPECIAL MEETING DATES? I THINK THE NOVEMBER 18TH WORKS. 
          I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD DATE. IT IS A WEDNESDAY. 
          IT'S A IT'S A WEDNESDAY. YEAH. I'M ALSO IN FAVOR AND HAPPY TO HAVE ENTHUSIASM FOR THE
SUBCOMMITTEES AS WELL. 
          I'M AVAILABLE. YEAH. NOVEMBER 18TH IS GOOD FOR ME. 
          OKAY. NOVEMBER 18TH. YES. GOOD FOR ME. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. 
          ALL RIGHT THEN MAKE A MOTION. UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO HOG UP ALL THE
MOTION OPPORTUNITY. 
          WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? CAN WE ACTUALLY FIRST GET A MOTION TO CANCEL THE
NOVEMBER, CANCEL IT FIRST, AND THEN VOTE FOR THE NEW DATE? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CANCEL THE NOVEMBER 11TH,
2026 MEETING DUE TO THE VETERAN'S HOLIDAY. 
          PLEASE. I SECOND. YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION. LET'S LET'S CANCEL THE NOVEMBER AS SCHEDULED. 
          OKAY. AWESOME. AND IS THERE A SECOND, PLEASE? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. 
          AND WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE A SPECIAL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A SPECIAL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH AT 6:30 P.M.. 
          AND COMMISSIONER MAROKO IS GOING TO SECOND THAT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND OKAY. SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. SO IT'S MY FAVORITE PART. 
          I THINK YOU'RE SKIPPED ONE. DID I? YEAH. YOU SKIPPED L.5. 
          OH, YES. SORRY. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING REORGANIZATION OR CONTINUATION OF
THE COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          YES. THANK YOU. LET ME JUST GET TO MY NOTES ON THAT. 
          SO AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND IN OUR AGENDA PACKET, WE HAD A LIST HERE ON THE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE AND BECAUSE NOW. 
          YES. YEAH. IF I MAY JUST INTERRUPT AND YOU'RE RIGHT ON TRACK. 
          HOWEVER, THE ONE THING WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALIZE IS THE SPECIFIC GOAL FOR THE
SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          THE OBJECTIVE AND THE CULMINATION, WHETHER THERE'S A IN PERIOD OR THE CULMINATION OF THE
GOAL AS SET FORTH AS IN THE 
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BACKGROUND OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT DETAILS REGARDING THE RULES FOR SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT WOULD, I THINK, BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO AS WE CONSIDER THE SUBCOMMITTEES, IF WE COULD JUST ENSURE THAT WE FORMALIZE THE GOAL OF
THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN THE TIME FRAME AS FAR AS WHETHER THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WILL THEN TERMINATE ONCE THE COMPLETION OF THE GOAL OR IF
THERE'S A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD, FOR EXAMPLE, SUBCOMMITTEE MAY TERM OUT IN SIX MONTHS. 
          THAT'S JUST SOME GUIDELINES SINCE WE ATTENDED TRAINING JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE
RIGHT TRACK. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IN FORMALIZING THE GOAL,
ARE YOU REQUESTING US TO TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING WRITTEN FOR THE GOAL OR JUST RIGHT HERE? NOW JUST STATE WHAT THE GOAL IS IF WE CAN IF THE COMMISSION CAN COALESCE
AROUND A GOAL FOR EACH OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW,
TOO FOR VERBOSE, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT IT NEEDS TO ARTICULATE CLEARLY WHAT THE GOAL IS. 
          AND AGAIN, WHETHER THAT CULMINATION IS IN THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE GOAL OR WHETHER THE,
THERE'S A TIME PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST GO DOWN THE LIST,
STARTING WITH THE PRESERVATION MINOR ALTERATION SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH IS A STANDING COMMITTEE. AND SINCE I'VE,
I'VE BEEN ON THAT NOW. 
          THE ORDINANCE TOO. IT'S, IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE,
WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT. 
          SO THE GOAL OF THAT PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO RECEIVE SMALLER ALTERATIONS OF LANDMARK PROPERTY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WINDOWS OR DOORS OR REPLACEMENT OF
SIDING, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T COME DIRECTLY TO THE COMMISSION. 
          AND SINCE IT'S A STANDING COMMITTEE, THERE IS NO,
NO TIME FRAME FOR THAT. 
          THE FACILITY USERS SUBCOMMITTEE. SO COMMISSIONER SPJUTE AND COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ HAD
REQUESTED TO BE ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. OKAY. WE'RE STILL GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. 
          AND YES. AND DO YOU WANT TO VOCALIZE A GOAL AND A TIME FRAME FOR THAT? I, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE GOAL WOULD BE TO,
TO MONITOR AND MAXIMIZE USE OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AS WELL AS LOOK FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR STATUS AND USAGE. 
          IF I CAN GIVE ASSISTANCE TO YOU ON THIS ONE. THIS IS A CARRYOVER FROM THE PARKS AND REC. 
          AND IT WAS SET UP SPECIFICALLY AS YOU INDICATED,
BUT IT'S ALSO TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO USE OUR PARK FACILITIES A VOICE SO THAT IF THERE'S ISSUES I THINK WE HAD COMMISSIONER LANG AT ONE POINT WAS ON ON THIS AND THERE WAS
PROBLEMS WITH SUNSET LITTLE LEAGUE DOWN AT ALTA VISTA WITH THE FLOODING AND STUFF. SO THAT GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE,
THE GROUPS THAT USE IT. 
          I KNOW YOUR LITTLE LEAGUE, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN SERVICED VERY WELL,
BUT YOU HAVE THE BATTING CAGES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BEFORE OR THE PITCHING CAGES. 
          SO IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GOAL AND IT WOULD PROBABLY
BE WANT ALL YEAR LONG DOING IT. 
          BUT IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          OKAY. AND, AND AS FAR AS THE TIME FRAME, IT'S ONGOING,
I THINK SO ONGOING AS, AS AS COMMISSIONER MAROKO JUST SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE ONGOING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR,
FOR THAT ARTICULATION. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          COMMISSIONER MAROKO. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES. SO WE'RE AN AMALGAMATION OF FOUR DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS. 
          THE PARKS AND REC'S THE FACILITIES USER WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
OTHER ONES WHEN WE GET FURTHER DOWN. 
          WE HAVE THE MINOR ALTERATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE PRESERVATION. 
          WE HAVE NOTHING WITH THE LIBRARY AT THIS POINT,
BUT BRINGING HISTORY WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN HISTORICAL THINGS. 
          WE JUST HAD THE WELL, I'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE REPORT,
BUT WE HAD A FINE UNVEILING IN THE PARK THAT TALKS ABOUT IT. 
          WE HAVE THE PATH OF HISTORY MARKERS. WE HAVE THE WALKING TIMELINE. 
          SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP THAT CONNECTION TO ITS
HISTORY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE'S ALL ABOUT. OKAY. AND AS FAR AS THE TIME FRAME,
BECAUSE I. 
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BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE ITO PARK THING,
WE'RE NOW FOCUSING ON GETTING PATH OF HISTORY MARKERS UP AND WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT 8 TO 12. 
          DEPENDS ON THE STAFFING AVAILABILITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALTA VISTA PARK PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THIS ONE IS AS
YOU MENTIONED EARLIER COMMISSIONER MAROKO. YES, WE, WE DO STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE RESERVATION SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD BROUGHT UP TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT ON A NUMBER
OF OCCASIONS. 
          AND I HAD RECOMMENDED ACTUALLY A WHILE AGO THAT WE,
THAT WE DO LOOK AT SOME OTHER SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE USER FRIENDLY AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE THE CITY WITH SOME, YOU KNOW,
EASIER, MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE DATA. 
          HOWEVER SINCE WE ARE ALSO NOW POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT ANOTHER FACILITY,
THE AVIATION PARK FACILITY. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO THE PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN REMAIN
INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. 
          AND I WELCOME I WELCOME ANYBODY TO JOIN THAT. 
          IF ANYBODY FEELS PASSIONATE ABOUT, ABOUT PICKLEBALL. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY, I'M HAPPY TO TEACH YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY,
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT'S JUST OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE,
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR THE YEAR AS WE TRANSITION AND, AND FIND OUT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING WITH AVIATION PARK AS WELL. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO THE PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE AND PRESERVATION OUTREACH
SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE MYSELF AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MAROKO. THAT'S I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ON IT,
RIGHT? THEY GOT LEFT OFF FOR SOME REASON. SO. AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE
ON THAT PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          SO WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE? YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE IF THEY WANT. 
          WELL, WE TALKED WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE WAS CREATED FOR IS TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR US TO TO CREATE EVENTS IN ORDER TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THE PRESERVATION PROCESS IS,
WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE ABOUT THE MILLS ACT AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          LAND LANDMARK OWNERS ARE SORT OF EXISTING ALL BY THEMSELVES AND THEY DON'T KNOW EACH
OTHER. 
          AND SO WE WERE HOPING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A,
A CLOSER COMMUNITY OUT OF THAT, WHICH HELPS TO BUILD PRIDE IN OWNERSHIP. SO AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH OUR OUR FOLKS ABOUT SOME HISTORY. 
          SO THAT'S THE GOAL OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. 
          WE ALREADY, I THINK WE MENTIONED LAST TIME THERE WAS ALREADY A AN EVENT THAT WE HAD IN THE
SPRING THAT WAS VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. IT WAS OUR VERY FIRST EVENT. 
          AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN MY BLUE FOLDER ITEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT EVENT ON NOVEMBER 21ST AT
THE HISTORIC LIBRARY. 
          AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. SO IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED IN ACTUALLY WORKING ON
THIS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE WORKING ON THE PRESENTATION MATERIALS. AND GETTING THE FACILITY. 
          THE HISTORICAL LIBRARY PARTICULARS WORKED OUT AS FAR AS IF YOU'RE DOING REFRESHMENTS AND
WHAT VISUALS WE WANT TO HAVE, ETC.. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE. 
          SO IF THAT'S OF INTEREST TO ANYBODY, LET ME KNOW. 
          WELL, I'LL JUMP ON THE PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          FANTASTIC. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. RESEARCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY IN REDONDO BEACH. 
          COMMISSIONER MAROKO AND COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. 
          ARE YOU STILL. YEAH. AND THAT ONE'S REFERRED TO BY THE COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR MARCHING ORDERS. I'M HOPING WE CAN GET SOMETHING MOVING AND MAYBE
EVEN BY JUNE. 
          HAVE SOMETHING. YES FOR PRIDE. EXACTLY. MY TIMELINE IS EXACTLY IS AN ONGOING EFFORT,
BUT WITH 
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A MAJOR EVENT TAKING PLACE HIGHLIGHTING PRIDE. 
          IT'S A MAJOR OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE COMMUNITY,
THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, TO RECOGNIZE AND CREATE A MOMENTUM THAT COULD REALLY LEAD TO A MARK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CONTRIBUTE IN THIS CITY FOR THE
HISTORY. 
          AND THEN AT VENN DIAGRAMS TO WITH SOME OF, YOU KNOW,
THE HISTORY, ALSO RECOGNITION. 
          OKAY. JUNE IS THE HIGHLIGHT. WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          AND I GOT A VERY ENTHUSIASTIC PARTNER ON THIS ONE TO DO IT WITH. 
          SO I'M EXCITED. AND SO AS FAR AS TIMELINE, WE'RE ONGOING FOR THE YEAR. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING FOR THE YEAR, I THINK. 
          OKAY. UNLESS WE'RE REALLY SUCCESSFUL, IN WHICH CASE IT'LL BE SHORTER,
BUT I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY THE WAY THE CITY WORKS, IT TAKES TIME. ALRIGHTY. SO. RECOGNITION. RECOGNITION PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          COMMISSIONER MAROKO YOU WERE ON THE RECOGNITION PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO THIS ONE WAS RELATED TO WE GET THESE LANDMARKS,
WE GET THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND WE HAVE SOME HISTORIC HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS AND SIGNS AND TREES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT. 
          AND SOMEHOW COME UP WITH A PROGRAM TO CREATE A UNIFORM PRESENTATION,
WHETHER IT'S BRICK IN THE SIDEWALK OR A SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAD IT IN PRESERVATION ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY WORKING ON
IT. 
          SO I'VE FOUND SOME OF THE RECORDS ON THAT. BUT WHAT I,
WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO NOW THAT WE HAVE MR. CIAMPA OVER THERE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS WE NOW ACTUALLY,
I THINK CAN ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          BUT SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE WITH IT. 
          THE TIMELINE HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE SOMETHING WORD IN OCTOBER. 
          SO IT COULD BE THROUGH THE SUMMER AT LEAST, BUT PROBABLY FOR THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. AND ARE YOU HOPING TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE SERVE ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE? IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEBODY HAS FUNDRAISING EXPERIENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT CAN
HELP WITH SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL STUFF, OR I'M NOT THE BEST GRAPHIC ARTIST. SO SOMEBODY HAS DESIGN THINGS. 
          WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING REALLY NICE FOR THAT. 
          BUT ANYBODY HERE, IT'S BEEN A LOW PRIORITY WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S JUST
WE'RE STILL WORKING TO BRING STUFF BACK. 
          SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE GOAL OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE TO
IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOGNIZE. 
          AND HOW TO DO IT LIKE I WAS WITH THE LOGO AND WE HAD TO GO THROUGH STEPS ON IT AND WE GOT
A COST ESTIMATE ALREADY ON IT, BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN BRING IT DOWN OR, AND PART OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT YOUR
OUTREACH EVENTS IS WE'RE GOING TO GET THE INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUR HISTORIC LANDMARKS. WELL, I THINK IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO SERVE ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          IS THAT IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE FEELS THEY WANT TO. 
          WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE. SO AT THE LAST MEETING COMMISSIONERS ROY AND
MALCOLM EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO BE ON THE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE. YES. THAT'S STILL GOING FORWARD. 
          OKAY. AND WE IDENTIFIED THE GOALS OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE AT THE LAST MEETING,
SO THEY WERE PRETTY CLEAR. 
          AND WE WOULD. I THINK THIS COMMITTEE WAS MEANT TO BE A STANDING COMMITTEE,
AM I RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO, YES. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBERED AS WELL. 
          OKAY. WE CAN'T USE THE WORD STANDING COMMITTEE. 
          PROBABLY I'LL HAVE TO USE IT FOR THE DURATION OF THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. FOR THE DURATION. REVISIT ALL THE TIME. 
          EVERY YEAR. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON? THE VOLUNTEER ACKNOWLEDGMENT SUBCOMMITTEE WAS A PRODUCT OF THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT,
WHERE WE RECOGNIZE VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DOES STUFF WITH THE PARKS. 
          SO I, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A NOMINATION IN ALREADY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE RECOGNIZED. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS. 
          OUR COMMISSION HAS DONE THREE RECOGNITIONS. THE PARKS AND REC'S RECOGNIZED TWO. 
          SO WE'VE HAD FIVE PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS. IT'S A NICE WAY OF BRINGING THE COMMUNITY IN AND
AND RECOGNIZING THEM FOR THEIR WORK. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE,
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. 
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WE HAD THE SUNSET GUY HERE. SO IT'S EQUAL TIME AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT FORM THAT BE ON THAT. 
          AND I'M HOPING TO HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON SO THAT I CAN GET THE PAPERWORK GOING ON IT. 
          WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE? I WOULD, SURE. GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROY. 
          OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT AS FAR AS THE SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          AND SO. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. 
          NO, I THINK I THINK WE'RE FINE. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
PARTICULAR ITEM, CORRECT? NO, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYONE ONLINE OR IN PERSON TO SPEAK ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THESE PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEIR AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED SUBCOMMITTEE WITH SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU. SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE ONE THAT I JUMPED TO BEFORE. 
          OKAY. SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. 
          OKAY. I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST AGAIN THAT I HAVE HERE. 
          SO PRESERVATION MINOR ALTERATIONS. WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING. 
          SO WE HAVE NO REPORT ON THAT. FACILITY USERS SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. BRINGING HISTORY TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          YEAH. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS. ONE IS ON SEPTEMBER 29TH WE HAD THE UNVEILING OF THE ITO
FAMILY OPEN SPACE MARKERS. THERE'S ONE THAT RECOGNIZES EXECUTIVE ORDER 9066,
WHICH PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT SIGNED THAT SENT EVERYBODY TO VACATE THE PACIFIC COAST. THERE'S A SECOND ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE INTERNMENT CAMPS THEMSELVES. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD ONE ABOUT THE ITO FAMILY. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE STUDENTS WILL START LEARNING ABOUT IT. 
          MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT GETTING SOME LESSON PLANS. 
          IT WAS ATTENDED BY ALMOST ALL THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. 
          THE MAYOR DID SOME COMMENTS ON IT, THE FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          BUT THIS FAMILY'S BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 100 YEARS. 
          AND THEY, THEY WERE THERE, THE DAUGHTERS WERE THERE AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASED WITH IT. 
          SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY. AND OUR, OUR LIAISON WAS THERE TO HAVE A GOOD PICTURE OF YOU. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, NOW THAT WE GOT THAT BEHIND US,
WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON THE PATH OF HISTORY MARKERS. 
          SO WE HAVE TWO MARKERS THAT I THINK WILL PROBABLY BE INTO A DESIGN WORK AT SOME POINT IN
THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          ONE IS RELATED TO THERE WAS A FIREWORKS EXPLOSION IN NORTH REDONDO IN THE 1940S. 
          THE GUY WHO DID IT HAS ACTUALLY SOME INTERESTING CONNECTIONS TO EVERYTHING. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT ONE. AND THEN IF YOU STAND WHERE THE ITO FAMILY OPEN SPACE IS
AND LOOK DOWN THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN RANCHO SAUSAL REDONDO AND RANCHO SAN PEDRO. 
          AND IT KIND OF POINTS OUT THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE STILL SEE THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN
THE TWO RANCHOS. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE ONES COMING UP. NOW THAT DOMINGUEZ PARK IS OFFICIALLY OPEN,
WE CAN START WORKING ON THE WALKING TIMELINE AND COME UP, AND I'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING BACK TO YOU A SERIES OF DATES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PUT ON
THE TIMELINE AND LET YOU GUYS LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH DATE, AND THEN TELL US WHICH DATES YOU THINK SHOULD BE REPRESENTED ON THE TIMELINE. 
          SO THAT'LL BE A MORE FORMALIZED REPORT ON THAT. 
          TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION. SO OUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK IS, CAME FROM WISCONSIN AND HE WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT PROPERTY. 
          AND HE SAYS HE CAN TALK FOR FOUR HOURS ON THAT. 
          I THINK IT'D BE REALLY NICE FOR HIM TO COME AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION. 
          I ASKED HIM IN FRONT OF HIS BOSS, THE CITY CLERK,
AND SHE WAS FINE WITH IT. 
          I TOLD HIM, YOU'RE ONLY LIMITED TO 20 MINUTES,
BUT IT DID BRING UP THE IDEA THAT MAYBE THERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE COMMITTEE CAN DO IS 
          [02:20:08]
CO-SPONSOR EVENTS WITH THE LIBRARY SO HE CAN GO FOR FOUR HOURS. 
          SO WE'LL BRING IF WE CAN BRING HIM IN. IF YOU GUYS ARE RECEPTIVE TO HAVING A GUEST SPEAKER
COME IN TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN START ARRANGING POTENTIAL SPEAKERS, POTENTIAL TOPICS. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU GUYS WOULD GET TO SAY, WHO GETS TO COME IN. 
          WE HAVE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF NORTH REDONDO BEING ANNEXED INTO REDONDO. 
          SO YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF STUFF ON THAT COMING OUT,
AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE THAT WE CAN DO A JOINT EVENT ON IT. 
          WITH THE, WITH THE LIBRARY, I THINK THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD FACILITY,
A GOOD SOUND SYSTEM. 
          THEY HAVE REALLY WELL TRAINED PEOPLE ON IT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO,
TO BRING IN. 
          AND I GUESS I DO WANT A CONSENSUS IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH ME EXTENDING THE INVITATION TO THE
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, WHO WILL BE DONE WITH THE ELECTION AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO COME AND TALK FOR 20 MINUTES,
THAT'S 20 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. 
          SO I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT AND OUR LIAISONS OKAY WITH
IT, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THEM TO OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          I DON'T FORESEE AN ISSUE WITH IT, I. THE DEFER TO THE COMMISSION,
AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF ANYTHING COMES TO MIND THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT PRESENTATION. BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS ON THAT NOW,
I THINK YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN I CAN LET YOU KNOW IF WE FORESEE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD AFTER
TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A CONSENSUS. 
          AGAIN IT'S 20 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. SO WE'RE ALREADY AT 8:50. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          BUT WHO KNOWS. OKAY. DO WE COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. 
          DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, I THINK IT COULD BE VERY INSIGHTFUL. 
          I THINK I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT BE KEPT AT 20 MINUTES OR LESS. 
          YEAH. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROY. I AGREE. THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          MR. DOMINGUEZ. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME, COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. 
          YEAH. NO OBJECTION. AND COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. NO OBJECTION. 
          I HAVE NO OBJECTION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHTY. I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          WE REALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, SO I HAVE NO REPORT THERE. 
          PRESERVATION OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE. IN YOUR BLUE FOLDER ITEMS,
YOU WILL NOTICE A REPORT. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS I WELCOME THEM. IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS RIGHT
NOW. 
          NO. OKAY. GOOD. SO DON'T FORGET TO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. 
          NOVEMBER 21ST AT THE HISTORIC LIBRARY. WE ARE FINALIZING THE NAME OF THAT EVENT. 
          HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK AS WELL AS SPECIAL GUESTS. 
          OKAY. AND RESEARCH OF THE HISTORY OF LGBTQ COMMUNITY IN REDONDO BEACH,
COMMISSIONER, MAROKO AND DOMINGUEZ. 
          NO UPDATES. OKAY. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING HOPEFULLY SOON. 
          YES, YES. SHE HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON THAT TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER ANYTHING WE DO IN
THE COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU. YES. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ ON HER RECENT
WEDDING. 
          YES. SO THAT'S WONDERFUL. MANY YEARS OF OF OF GOOD HEALTH AND LOTS OF LOVE. 
          THANK YOU. RECOGNITION. PRESERVATION SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          NOTHING. BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE. NOTHING. RIGHT. 
          NOTHING. COMMISSIONERS ROY AND MALCOLM. AND I DON'T THINK YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE
VOLUNTEER. 
          NO, BECAUSE WE OFFICIALLY HAVE THAT COMMITTEE. 
          SO AT THAT POINT. ALL RIGHT, THEN. WE LOST ALL THOSE PEOPLE. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO I LIKE TO CALL A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          THANK YOU. AND A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THERE WAS SORRY. THERE WAS NOBODY ON. 
          LET ME CHECK REALLY QUICK. NO ONE ONLINE AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE UP TO NOW? OKAY. STAFF LIAISON ITEMS. YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU. 
          [M. STAFF LIAISON ITEMS]
JUST A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO OFFER OPPORTUNITY TO
ACKNOWLEDGE OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. 
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OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH 24TH IS NATIONAL FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WEEK. 
          WE PLANNED ON INTERNALLY EXTENDING OUR GRATITUDE TO THE FRIENDS. 
          THEY WILL BE HAVING A BOOK SALE A WEEK FROM SATURDAY. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE 17TH. IT'S IN THE IS IT THIS SATURDAY? I'M SORRY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THAT RIGHT. 
          IT IS THIS SATURDAY, THE 17TH. WE DID INCLUDE THE FLIER IN THE PACKET FOR YOU. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE STOP BY. AND THEN ON BEHALF OF THE RECREATION TEAM, THEY HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANNOUNCED. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THAT PUMPKINS IN THE PARK IS 3 TO 6 P.M. 
          IS A FREE FAMILY EVENT THAT WILL BE WILL HAVE GAME BOOTHS AND COSTUME PARADE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAME DAY THAT IS THE 17TH AS WELL. 
          AND ALSO TEEN FRIGHT NIGHT FROM 6 TO 9 P.M. AT PERRY TEEN CENTER. 
          HIGH SCHOOL ID IS REQUIRED. AND THIS IS A COLLABORATION EVENT WITH THE YOUTH COMMISSION. 
          AND FINALLY YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL FOR THE VETERANS DAY
TRIBUTE ON NOVEMBER 11TH AT 1 P.M.. 
          IF THERE IS INCLEMENT WEATHER, THE TRIBUTE WILL BE MOVED TO THE ELKS LODGE NEXT DOOR. 
          AWESOME. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF LIAISON? NO. ALL RIGHTY. SO WE ARE UP TO LETTER M COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS. 
          [N. COMMISSION MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE COMMISSION AGENDA TOPICS]
HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE
AGENDA FOR A FUTURE AS A FUTURE ITEM THIS IS YOUR TIME TO DO THAT. COMMISSIONER SPJUTE. NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROY. NOTHING RIGHT NOW. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. 
          NONE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MALCOLM. NONE. COMMISSIONER MAROKO. 
          YES, I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IN YOUR MATERIALS IS THE YEAR OF REVIEW. 
          THAT WAS A BLUE FOLDER ITEM. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD YEAR,
AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE ALSO GOOD. 
          I'M SURE UNDER OUR LEADERSHIP OF CHAIR GALASSI WILL,
IT WILL BE REALLY GOOD, BUT IT'S THERE FOR YOUR REVIEW AND ENJOYMENT. 
          THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SEE WHERE THE THE COMMISSION IS AT. 
          SO CHAIR GALASSI ENDED UP ATTENDING, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN FROM THE,
THE MATERIALS VERY BENEFICIAL EDUCATIONAL EVENT. AND WE GET, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST MONTH,
A CLG REPORT WHICH INCLUDES EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE IF. AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE BUDGET PEOPLE TO STEP IN HERE. 
          IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES IN A PROCESS WHERE A COMMISSIONER WHO WANTS
TO GO TO A, AN EDUCATIONAL EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET
REIMBURSED AT LEAST ONCE DURING A YEAR, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THE AMOUNT OF $100. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS
THAT GOES, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF LIKE WE GOT THE BENEFIT OF COMMISSIONER GALASSI MATERIALS IN HERE, BUT IT WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS TO GET UP TO SPEED. 
          SO I'M GUESS I'M LOOKING TOWARDS STAFF TO GIVE US SOME. 
          WELL, CERTAINLY. AND I WANT TO GIVE OUR LIAISON JOHN,
AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THIS. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANY INTERNAL PROCEDURE FOR PROCESSING THOSE REQUESTS,
I'M NOT AWARE OF THEM. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND GET BACK TO YOU ON AS FAR AS YOU KNOW,
FUNDING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT COMMISSION TRAINING AND PRESERVATION IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT PROCESS
WOULD WORK. 
          AND THEN IF, IF IT REQUIRES A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION OR ADDRESSING BY COMMISSION,
WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH HOW BEST TO PROCEED WITH THAT. 
          BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR CLARIFICATION AND GUIDANCE ON
TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT REQUIRE REIMBURSEMENT OR PAYMENT. YES. AND SINCE MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER OUR TRAINING WAS THAT WE CAN REFER OR MAKE IT A MEMBER ITEM, AND THEN YOU CAN REJECT IT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE INAPPROPRIATE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. RATHER THAN WAITING AN EXTRA MONTH TO THROW IT OUT
THERE AS AN AGENDA ITEM, AND IF YOU COME BACK AND THINK IT'S FEASIBLE,
THEN IT CAN MAKE IT TO THE AGENDA IF YOU DON'T, 
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BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO APPROVE IT ANYWAY. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL,
CORRECT? I GUESS MY AGAIN, NOT BEING THE LIAISON, NOT WANTING TO SPEAK FOR THE DEPARTMENT,
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT THAT'S EXISTING. 
          YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY ON LIBRARY COMMISSION, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING AGAIN,
WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, BUT WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY, JUST SPEAKING FOR LIBRARY TRAINING,
WE WOULD EXPLORE THE THE ABILITY, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL. 
          WE'D HAVE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION CLARIFICATION ON THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF
COMMISSION HAS ALREADY RECEIVED THAT DIRECTION FROM STAFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST TALK TO THE LIAISON ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN IF IT, IF IT, IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS A REQUEST FOR,
FOR FUNDING, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO COMMISSION AS A, AS A REQUEST. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO ADD AS A MEMBER ITEM? SO JUST IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE FROM THE FROM THE PACKET HERE,
I, I DID SEND TO OUR STAFF LIAISON, THE LINKS THERE'S, THERE WAS THE FIRST HALF AND THEN THE SECOND HALF. 
          THE ENTIRE VIDEO SIX HOURS WORTH. SO HOPE YOU HAVE SOME TIME. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE TWO SLIDE PRESENTATIONS FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO HAS BEEN
DOING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS NOW ON PRESERVATION. IT WAS A LOT AND I, AND BUT I LEARNED SO MUCH AS WELL IT WAS REALLY VALUABLE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE MUCH STRONGER PRESERVATION PROGRAMS
THAN WE DO. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT MAYBE WE MAY NOT COME ACROSS RIGHT NOW,
BUT IT DID, YOU KNOW, I HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THEM HERE, WHICH I THOUGHT,
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ALONG THE LINES. 
          SO ONCE DIRECTOR CIAMPA HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, SENIOR PLANNER CIAMPA HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO DECIDE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE FOR THE
COMMISSIONERS. 
          I WISH I HAD THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED, SO I HOPE WE CAN,
WE CAN DO THAT FOR THEM. 
          I'VE STILL GOT SOME MORE TO GO ON. OH, YOU GOT SOME MORE TO GO. 
          OKAY. SO ON THAT SUBJECT BROWN ACT DOESN'T PROHIBIT US FROM HAVING WORKSHOPS AND
DISCUSSIONS ON EDUCATIONAL STUFF. SO IF MR. CIAMPA DECIDES THAT IT'S SOMETHING WORTHY OF IT IS IT POSSIBLE THE
LIBRARY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A ROOM AVAILABLE FOR US FOR SEVERAL HOURS SO THAT WE CAN VIEW IT
TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND DISCUSS IT AND ASK QUESTIONS? I DON'T, I'M NOT, I'M NOT DEMANDING. NO, I'M NOT DIRECTING. 
          I WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT. WE DO WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE,
A, YOU KNOW, LIFELONG LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES TO ALL. 
          SO IF THAT'S A IF THAT'S AN OPTION, I THINK WE COULD EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXPLORE OPTIONS. YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY AT FIRST BLUSH, IT SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE A GOOD IDEA. 
          I JUST WANT TO FERRET IT OUT THE DETAILS, BUT YOU KNOW,
IN COORDINATION WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR AND THE ROOM AVAILABILITY I THINK THE NUTS AND BOLTS ARE THERE. I JUST WANT TO VERIFY. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS WHEN I STARTED, I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT PRESERVATION AND I
HAD TO START TAKING CLASSES. 
          AND WE SHOULD MAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS TO DEAL WITH
THAT. 
          OKAY. SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. I GAVE YOU SOME SAMPLE NAME TAGS,
I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, OR MAYBE IT WAS TWO MEETINGS AGO. WE HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP ON THE 21ST,
AND IT WOULD BE NICE FOR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO SHOW UP TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IDENTIFIES THEM AS A COMMISSIONER OR SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WRITE,
WORK WITH THEM. 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I KNOW AT THE LIAISON TRAINING THAT THEY HAD
DISCUSSED THAT THEY HAD ELIMINATED BADGES, BUT NAME TAGS ARE NOT BADGES. SO WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          OKAY. ALL YOU GUYS GET YOUR LAPEL PINS YET? OKAY. 
          NO, THEY'VE NOT RECEIVED THEM. OKAY. AND THEN THE BUSINESS CARDS,
HAVE THE, YOU GUYS GOTTEN BUSINESS CARDS YET? REGARDING THE BUSINESS CARDS. I SPOKE TO ELEANOR ABOUT THAT,
OUR CITY CLERK. 
          AND SHE SAID TO ME THAT THE CITY IS NO LONGER DOING BUSINESS CARDS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME
PEOPLE WHO WERE ABUSING THAT PRIVILEGE. 
          SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF WE, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING BUSINESS CARDS,
WHICH I THINK FOR OUR PARTICULAR COMMISSION IS KIND OF SAD BECAUSE 
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WE, WE GO OUT THERE AND WE SPEAK TO PEOPLE ABOUT ABOUT PRESERVATION. 
          IT'S, IT'S BEEN VERY HANDY IN THESE OUTREACH EVENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CARD TO GIVE TO
PEOPLE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE WANT TO HAVE ONE THAT'S GENERIC,
BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT A FUTURE TIME. 
          SURE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP. AND YOU KNOW,
JUST ON THAT NOTE I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS UNDER STAFF ITEMS. SO WE HAVE BEEN WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, DIRECTED TO UTILIZE THE COMMISSIONERS REDONDO.ORG EMAIL ADDRESSES. AND AGAIN, YOU WERE ALL BRIEFED ON THE BROWN ACT. 
          AND SO MOVING FORWARD, WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE AS A COMMUNICATION TOOL, THE REDONDO.ORG EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN LIAISON,
OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE THAT QUERY. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THE RESULT,
OBVIOUSLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND AND DESIRE TO MAKE THAT EASILY COMMUNICATION,
ACCESS TO YOUR COMMUNICATION EASILY AVAILABLE. 
          DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY WERE YOU SET UP WITH YOUR EMAILS YET. 
          EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THEIR EMAILS? OKAY. GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. AND I THINK YOUR OFFER FOR TOURS IS STILL
OUTSTANDING. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TAKING THEM UP ON. I THINK ALMOST I DO. 
          OKAY. THERE ARE A FEW I WON'T I WON'T. I'LL RESPECT YOUR PRIVACY. 
          BUT THOSE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THE TOURS AND ORIENTATION TO,
I THINK HAVE APPRECIATED IT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU ALL, BUT SO WE WILL. 
          WE WILL SEND THAT OUT AGAIN. OKAY. I STILL HAVE TO GET AHOLD OF YOU ON THAT. 
          I KNOW I WOULD. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION. 
          THERE WAS A RECENT PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE EASY READER FOR PROPERTY AT 222 AVENUE D, AND THERE LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO DO A DEMOLITION OF A HOUSE THAT'S ON THE HISTORIC
RESOURCES INDEX. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PLANS TO BRING IT TO US. SO IT WAS A QUESTION OF,
ARE THEY GOING TO BE BRINGING US THAT FOR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? SO THAT WAS MY ONE POINT ON THAT. 
          AND THEN MY LAST POINT IS THIS PART WHERE THE PHONE BOOKS USED TO BE. 
          I DO WANT TO SIT DOWN AND MEET WITH YOU TO DISCUSS MAYBE SETTING UP A MAP AREA OVER THERE
AND WHAT KIND OF MAPS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ANNEXATION STUFF COMING UP. 
          THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER GAMBLE. 
          NOTHING AT THIS TIME. NOTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE WEBINAR TRAINING. 
          SO MEG WALKER OF MADE BY MEG, WHO IS OUR CONCESSIONAIRE AT THE HISTORIC LIBRARY IS
COLLECTING HARDCOVER BOOKS WITH WHITE, BEIGE, BROWN OR BLUE SPINES,
PREFERABLY WITHOUT DUST JACKETS. 
          SO THE EXPOSED COVERS ARE FABRIC, LINEN, LEATHER OR LEATHER LIKE MATERIALS. 
          MOST SUBJECTS ARE OKAY, SHE SAYS, BUT NO RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL BOOKS. 
          AND WHAT SHE'S DOING WITH THAT IS IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INSIDE THE HISTORIC LIBRARY YET WHAT
THEY DID WAS THEY TOOK ALL OF THE OR A NUMBER OF THE, OF THE SHELVES OF THE LIBRARY SHELVES, AND THEY. 
          THEY PUT THEM ALL ALONG THE WALLS. AND SO WHEN SHE'S BEEN RUNNING EVENTS,
SHE'S BEEN PUTTING CANDLES THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN EXPENSIVE. SO IN ORDER TO FILL THOSE VACANT AREAS,
THAT'S WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO. 
          AND SO I WANTED IT TO BRING IT. I TOLD HER I WOULD BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR IDEAS
AND ALSO TO REFER IT TO YOU FOR PERHAPS THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR IF IF WE
WANTED TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER HELP SPEARHEAD THAT AND ALONG WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, YOUR THOUGHTS? HONESTLY FOR EXPEDIENCY, IF THERE WAS A POINT OF POINT OF CONTACT. 
          I WERE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET THAT TO OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. 
          YOU KNOW, THEIR BOOK SALE IS COMING UP. IT MAY BE THAT THERE'S A,
AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR BOTH PARTIES, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE EXPRESS WAY TO DO IT. 
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SINCE THEY MANAGE A LARGE DEAL OF DONATIONS AND MAYBE COMMUNICATING THE SPECIFICS FROM THE
LIAISON TO THE FRIENDS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE THAT CONDUIT AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT SHE DID SAY WAS THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT,
YOU KNOW, TONS OF BOOKS BEING DROPPED OFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WANTED IT MORE OF A COORDINATED EFFORT. 
          BELIEVE ME. JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT. NO,
I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK IN COMMUNICATION, AGAIN, I CAN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE,
YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A REFINED REQUEST, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY CAN
ACCOMMODATE A REQUEST. 
          BUT THEY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD JUST. 
          ALTHOUGH THEY COULD THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SHOW DISCRETION AND DISCERNMENT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAD ONE LAST ITEM,
UNDER MEMBERS ITEMS. WE WE LANDMARKED WILDERNESS PARK, WHICH WAS WAS A SHINING MOMENT FOR US HERE ON THE
COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION ON THE POTENTIAL LANDMARK
DESIGNATION OF SEASIDE LAGOON. 
          AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND TO VOTE ON IT. 
          I DID SPEAK WITH ONE COUNCIL PERSON ON THIS ITEM. 
          THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP IS BECAUSE IF WE DO LANDMARK SEASIDE LAGOON THERE,
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL OF OF HARNESSING THE CLG GRANT MONEY. 
          SO SEEING THAT SEASIDE LAGOON IS A IS A BIG TICKET ITEM ON THE COUNCIL'S WISH LIST,
ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP THAT SITUATION MAY BE MAY BE WORTHWHILE,
BUT IT REQUIRES A DISCUSSION OF OUR COMMISSION AND THEN TO RECOMMEND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. 
          SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN MAKING THAT MOTION. 
          THE MOTION IS TO TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          WELL, IT MAY NOT COME ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT IT'S A IT'S A MOTION TO AGENDIZE A
DISCUSSION. 
          THERE'S. YEAH. SO WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND THAT AND TAKE A VOTE. 
          YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AGENDIZE THAT MOTION. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO THAT CONCLUDES MEMBER ITEMS AND FUTURE
AGENDA TOPICS. 
          AND WE ARE AT ADJOURNMENT LETTER. OH YES. NOW WE HAVE A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. 
          IS THAT IN THE. SO WHILE YOU'RE ADJOURNING. YES. 
          SINCE WE DON'T WE AREN'T MEETING AT OUR NEXT REGULAR DATE. 
          BECAUSE VETERANS DAY THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED. 
          SO WHAT YOU CAN SAY DURING THIS ADJOURNMENT IS THAT WE CANCELED THAT REGULAR NOVEMBER
MEETING ON NOVEMBER 11TH AND THAT THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON, I BELIEVE WE DECIDED NOVEMBER 18TH. SO YOU CAN SAY THAT WHEN YOU ADJOURN. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS THE INTENTION OF THE CITY OF REDONDO BEACH TO COMPLY WITH
THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT. 
          ADA, IN ALL RESPECTS. IF AS AN ATTENDEE OR PARTICIPANT AT THIS MEETING YOU WILL NEED A
SPECIAL ASSISTANT BEYOND WHAT IS NORMALLY PROVIDED. 
          THE CITY WILL ATTEMPT TO ACCOMMODATE YOU IN EVERY REASONABLE MANNER. 
          PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT (310) 318-0656. 
          AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING TO INFORM US OF YOUR PARTICULAR NEEDS TO DETERMINE
IF THE ACCOMMODATION IS FEASIBLE. 
          PLEASE ADVISE US AT THAT TIME IF YOU WILL NEED ACCOMMODATIONS TO ATTEND OR PARTICIPATE IN
MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          SO WE ARE ADJOURNING AND OUR NOVEMBER 11TH MEETING IS CANCELED. 
          AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 18TH,
2026. 
          AND SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.